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Think of a pair of gloves that you own. Chances
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are it was made in a faraway
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place, and the production process probably included
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a lot of machinery. But
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there was once a time in the early 1900s
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when gloves were handmade and made here in
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the US. The capital of the glove industry
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was Gloversville, a city in upstate New York.
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Especially there, glove making was seen as
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a craft. Those days, for the most part,
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are long gone. Then
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in 2001, a man whose entire life revolved
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around the craft of glove making moved to
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Gloversville. My name is
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Daniel Stortow. I live in Gloversville, New
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York, and I am
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a glove maker and
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a historian on the
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history of the art of glove making. Daniel
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is the owner of the Glove Museum,
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a recreated 19th century glove making workshop
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complete with sizing tools, cutting blocks, and
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irons. A place that is part studio
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and part exhibition space. Not
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only does Daniel make gloves using tools from the 1800s,
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but he's also the
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owner of the world's largest collection of those
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tools. He also owns over 10,000
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pairs of gloves that span styles and materials
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from all over the world, dating back almost
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500 years. But
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Daniel's story didn't begin in Gloversville. It
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actually started in Toronto, then moved a
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few other places before landing in the
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city once nicknamed Uncle Sam's Glove Factory.
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And once he got there, Daniel realized
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how important it was to preserve the
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legacy of his lifelong passion. My
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the years after the American Civil War, Gloversville,
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New York, was an up-and-coming city. It
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was famous for its glove industry, but being
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that it was in the Adirondacks, the city
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was also known for its lumber, furs, and
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other forest products. And as immigrants from many
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of Europe's glove-making centers found their way to
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the city in upstate New York, the production
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of gloves became the absolute focus. When
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immigrants were coming to America, they were
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landing in New York, New York City.
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A lot of them were tailors and
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dressmakers. They brought their shears with them.
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They landed in New York, but by the time a
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lot of them landed in New York, a lot of
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the jobs were taken. So
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they would say in New York, go
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to Gloversville, they need sewers in Gloversville.
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So the immigrants made their way to
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Gloversville, and a lot of them were
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sewers and cutters and table cutters, the
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shears and all of that. According
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to a local archive, by 1916, Gloversville,
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a city a tenth the size of Boston,
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had 216 glove
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factories. In the 1920s, over a
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quarter of the city's population of 25,000 people worked in
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these factories. Gloversville would
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ride this industry throughout the 1930s and 40s,
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until in 1950, the
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city was faced with the threat of cheaper labor
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outside the US. At that
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point, much of the equipment in Gloversville was
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sent to places like Europe, where they made
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high fashion gloves, and Southeast Asia, where they
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made more common gloves. As a result, the
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glove makers in Gloversville began to lose their
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jobs. But
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then in the 1960s, across the Atlantic Ocean
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in Europe, gloves were just entering
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the mind of a young Daniel Stordo. My
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grandfather was a shoemaker, and
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I was very close to my
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grandfather. So I spent my summers in Italy,
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where my grandfather had his
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own atelier. He shoes
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on his own, independent. And
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there are traces of him throughout my
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career, and the way I do things,
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and the way I work. Though
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Daniel and his parents lived in Toronto, he
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would spend summers in Italy working with his
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grandfather. There, Daniel learned how to work with
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different materials. His family wanted him to get
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into shoemaking, but it just wasn't for him.
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He couldn't stand the smell of the glue
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involved in the process. But Daniel's
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family wasn't just making shoes. Most of his
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uncles and aunts were dressmakers and tailors, work
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that involved long hours in front of a
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sewing machine indoors. And
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so I was the type of
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child that I had a fear
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of going outside. I was the
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type of child that did not
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associate with other children. I had
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a fear of going to school. My
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aunt would drag me to school every
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morning, and I would run away
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from school and run home. I had a very
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difficult time. And so
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I really enjoyed being around
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my uncles and aunts that were dressmakers and tailors.
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And I would always pick up the scraps. And
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I was at the sewing machine at the age
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of seven. And I loved it.
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To me, that was my world, and nothing
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else was going to change it. Turns
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out when you're working with scraps of different
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materials, like leather and suede, gloves are the
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easiest thing to make. He made his
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first pair at just nine years old. It
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was a pair of mittens. And And
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so I just
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began, you know, learning, learning
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it on my own. And my mother said to me when
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she would come to the shop, you know,
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you're all over the board. You
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need to pick one thing and you need to do
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it well. And I think
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her thinking was, your grandfather picked
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one thing, you pick one thing.
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And when Daniel picked glove making, he really
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poured himself into his craft. By
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1970, at just 16, Daniel opened up a
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store in Toronto. That same year, he
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would begin taking buses from Toronto all the
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way to LA. Generally,
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I would leave Toronto when winter
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hit. And I would
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get on the Greyhound bus with the suitcase full
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of clothes that I made and
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accessories. And I
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would travel to Hollywood. And
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I was able to spend the whole
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winter in Hollywood by going shop
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to shop to shop, selling the things
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that I made. Over
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time, as he went shop to shop, Daniel's gloves
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started to create a buzz because of how
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unique they were and Daniel's incredible attention to
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detail. I loved shape and form.
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And whenever I would see a certain
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shape or form out of work from
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those artists, I would implement that into
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a glove. So if I saw
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a circle, I would make a circle glove. If
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I saw like a curve, I would
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incorporate that shape into the glove, all one piece. So
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it attracted designers. It
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would garner publicity. I would get, you
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know, my gloves would be photographed in
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Vogue magazine or Harper's Bazaar
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magazine. This buzz led
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to some exciting opportunities for the young Canadian
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glove maker. So much so that in the
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early 80s, Daniel moved out
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to LA permanently. I made
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gloves for a lot of
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movies. I made gloves for
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Carol Streep, Diane Keaton, Whoopi
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Goldberg, Goldie
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Hahn, Sylvester Stall,
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a lot. You know, I made the Rocky gloves.
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doll glove dye. It's
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made out of steel rule, it's tiny,
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it cuts out doll's gloves. So
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people are fascinated by what
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does it do, how does it do, and being
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a glove maker, I could show them. Years
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later in 2018, Daniel bought an
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old children's glove factory in Glubbersville. He then
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made it the new home of his own
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personal collection and the materials and tools he
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got from the locals. That
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old children's glove factory is now the
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Glove Museum. You know,
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the first summer that I opened the Glove
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Museum, I had over 10,000
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visitors from all over the world. It
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was a mind blow. I was
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exhausted. A tour of
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the museum that I gave, because
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I handled everything of the museum,
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was about four hours. People
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are fascinated because
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it's something you don't see every day. At
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the Glove Museum, Daniel is constantly changing out
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vintage glove catalogs in his own vintage glove
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collection because there could never be enough room
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for him to showcase it all at one
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time. And to help bring in
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the surrounding community, Daniel is starting to give
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classes on the history of gloves and the
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craft of glove making. But
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you see, even that, the approach
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is very different. Like my sculptural
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gloves, it's a circle or shape
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and form. I'm calling that the
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geometry class. One
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thing Daniel understands is that he found a
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very specific passion. He could create a whole
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outfit if he wants, and he actually does
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do that from time to time. But what
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he really loves is making gloves. What
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he wants more than anything is for people to
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accept and pursue their own passion, even
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if the thing is as niche as his.
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