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Did you ever go by crispy to do a crispy face? Oh
0:04
He's over your your tag. That was
0:06
kind of my Intro
0:08
to Chris plant funny name, you know because
0:10
like Chris plant crispy. That's pretty funny. No,
0:13
I know that's why we said it Yeah,
0:15
well, yeah If
0:17
your point is that it's obvious then that's hurtful
0:20
but gone. I it is I'm taking you on
0:22
a journey because my
0:25
full name is Chris Thomas plant
0:27
or Christmas
0:29
plant Which is okay
0:31
way more impressive than crispy in my
0:33
opinion. Okay, you know I disagree I
0:36
think crispy sounds cooler and again, like
0:38
when you're putting up your tag Then
0:41
you can't like crispy is just such
0:43
a better name than Christmas plant. Oh, you
0:45
mean like crispy Yeah
0:48
like that. Yeah, Griffin. It's
0:50
Griffin. It's What
0:52
was your tag? It was a good good Try griff,
0:54
but it's just it's just not as fun to
0:57
bully Chris plant It's
1:00
not the same he doesn't do it right Chris
1:02
you're not doing it right I'm too pedantic Whatever
1:05
it is. I don't know you're just it's
1:07
not as fun. It's not the same I don't
1:09
I don't want to burn this entire thing down
1:11
But can I tell you that I had a
1:13
dream last night and I woke up? I'm this
1:15
is not a joke I wrote this down. I
1:17
had an idea for a cold open and You'll
1:21
see why it's not a joke because Okay,
1:23
I woke up and I'm like, oh my god.
1:25
This is gonna be so fucking funny What
1:28
if like I came in and like
1:32
all of you were like characters in the Wizard of
1:34
Oz? Oh cool And
1:36
I and in my dream you I
1:38
was like oh and they're like they each need
1:40
like a different thing for me And
1:42
I and I I scrolled it down and
1:44
I was like, this is a fucking funniest that
1:47
they can't believe that they need these things
1:49
Okay, so I this is really important Chris Did
1:52
you write this cold open down in the dream because
1:54
you thought was such a good idea? Or did you
1:56
wait for the dream and think I got it and
1:58
you went wrote it down in your actual life?
2:01
The dream happened, and in the dream
2:03
I could see the three of you
2:05
as these characters, like it was black
2:07
and white turned color, and each of
2:09
you were like, I need this thing.
2:11
And then, but I was kind of
2:13
above myself like, holy
2:15
shit, this would be such a funny cold
2:17
open if this were real. And
2:20
then I woke up to
2:22
piss, and then I did piss. And
2:26
then I grabbed my notebook and I was like,
2:29
I gotta write this down before I forget. That's
2:31
so funny. I'm down
2:34
to try bullying him again if you
2:38
think you have the insurance
2:41
for that. My
3:00
name is Justin McElroy, and I know the best game
3:02
of the week. My name is Griffin McElroy, and I
3:04
know the best game of the week. My name is
3:06
Christopher Thomas-Plant, and I'm the best games of the week.
3:10
Did you say you are the best games of the
3:12
week? I know the best games of the week.
3:15
That's amazing. Welcome
3:17
to Besties, where we talk about the latest in
3:20
grace and home interactive inter-game-ment.
3:22
It is a video game club, but just
3:24
by listening, you are a member. Russ
3:27
Frushtick is out on assignment. He's
3:31
just out there getting
3:33
stories and... He's on the street
3:35
asking people if they made a game. If
3:38
they're making a game. Yeah, he's not had a lot of
3:40
luck yet. This week we're talking about
3:43
our rainy day games, maybe
3:45
our comfort games, our video
3:48
games for the human soul, chicken
3:50
soup for the gamer's soul. That's
3:54
the name of this episode for sure. Yeah,
3:56
it's definitely called Chicken Soup for the Gamer's Soul.
3:58
Chris, what do we mean by rainy? We
4:01
have a rubric for this which is
4:03
these are the games you dig out
4:05
when you're feeling a little blue and
4:07
you need something that provides that quick
4:09
dose of comfort and and I know
4:11
I know that there are gonna
4:13
be people who write off say That's
4:16
not what a rainy day game is a rainy day
4:18
game is for like a day that you have nothing
4:20
else to do Mmm, and we can
4:22
we can give you an answer to that, too
4:24
I think there's gonna be overlap, but our
4:27
rubric is our rubric and we are sticking
4:29
to it Yeah, thank you. Yeah, so
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6:03
I mean, I have a lot and I,
6:05
this has been really interesting to think about
6:07
because I
6:10
don't think I realized that these games were this
6:12
for me. But then when I think
6:14
about the games that I have played a lot of it
6:16
is, I mean, it's
6:18
pretty consistent. I mean, I'll kick
6:20
things off with what I believe is
6:22
probably one that is true for most,
6:25
if not all of us, which is
6:28
Slay the Spire on
6:31
my phone specifically is
6:33
always there for me when I need it. And in
6:36
that sense, it is my best friend. I
6:40
have always wanted this, Griffin.
6:42
Slay the Spire and Vampire
6:44
Survivors are my two, like,
6:47
I really, really wish I could play those
6:49
on mobile. I wish that I could. I've
6:51
just sunk so much
6:54
time into the other ones. I don't think
6:56
I could get there. But it's fun to
6:58
play games. It's fun to play games and
7:00
always, but I love games. I love games.
7:02
And so if you start them over again,
7:04
it's like the game is new to you.
7:07
And so I would encourage you to do
7:09
that. I think
7:11
that this is an interesting sort of
7:13
topic of discussion because I think that
7:16
the idea of like a rainy day game, a
7:19
game you play when you're not when you're feeling kind
7:21
of down in the dumps can
7:24
be a bad thing, right? Like
7:26
there is a level of, there
7:29
is a level of escapism that
7:32
is, I think, detrimental
7:34
to, that makes it harder
7:36
to get that sunshine to
7:38
come back out into
7:41
the life of you. Because for me, like,
7:44
I think WoW used to be this for
7:47
me. I think that
7:50
like a big juicy MMO when
7:53
I was having a rainy
7:55
day, by which I mean like a
7:58
long lasting depression. episode. Yeah.
8:01
Yeah. You know, I'm on a
8:03
rainy day. A real rainy month
8:05
or two. You
8:07
know, I would get up in WOW and then it
8:09
would, and I'm not saying this is true for everyone,
8:11
I'm not saying that this is inherently the nature of
8:14
MMOs but just sort of the nature of my addictive
8:16
kind of personality, I
8:18
would turn to WOW and it would get me, you
8:21
know, get me through the days but it wouldn't
8:23
make me feel particularly bad. I
8:26
would almost put that as part of
8:28
the rubric here is that it's something
8:30
that can be satisfying in and
8:33
of itself, right? Yeah. Like there's
8:35
a difference between, you know,
8:39
getting hooked on something in a moment
8:41
of weakness, getting re-hooked on something that's
8:43
maybe not a great fit
8:45
for how you want to live your life and being
8:48
able to sit down and have like a
8:50
one-off experience that is going
8:52
to feel satisfying. An edge case for
8:54
me is like Destiny or Destiny 2
8:57
because that game is, I mean
8:59
that game is fun to play. That game is
9:01
fun to kind of like dip into and I
9:04
have had times where I've, you know, not had
9:06
anything else to play and you
9:09
know, just wanted something that I could just
9:11
sort of vibe out to and Destiny has,
9:13
you know, at times it has been
9:15
that and then it also has been the other thing
9:17
where it is a less sort
9:19
of healthy kind of option.
9:22
I would honestly are you the
9:24
stop-start nature of Destiny 2 development?
9:27
Although maybe not the best from like a
9:29
business sense, I have no idea, but
9:31
it's honestly I found it to be kind
9:33
of a more humane release schedule. Like I
9:36
liked being done with Destiny for a while
9:38
and then getting back into it. I will
9:41
say that that
9:43
did eventually lead to me just sort of like
9:45
not coming back so I understand why they don't
9:47
want to have to like bring people back constantly.
9:49
But I did enjoy that pace where it was
9:51
like, oh I've seen the new stuff, I'll check
9:54
it back out later. They released an update yesterday
9:56
that Is like the prep for the
9:58
final shave, the big last. Expansion from Like this
10:01
whole story arc and in this update
10:03
they have like released and remastered and
10:05
ten most popular weapons that have ever
10:07
been in a game and that is
10:09
diabolical to make like a grip. Remember
10:11
ah the good times you how with
10:13
your friends Mountaintop and Reckless and Blast
10:15
Furnace and Falling he had seen or
10:17
my itinerary that arise if I come
10:19
down com get it. Can. We get
10:21
it, you're ready. Com. Which
10:24
one? The. Soldering rapier. I
10:26
remember that one else Go a man
10:28
cool as I like the games rival
10:31
game merely that Friends is on this
10:33
episode and all of them are either
10:35
and Weapons and Destiny or Slave Aspire
10:37
Yeah, exactly And precisely smiled at a
10:39
wedding party. Ah
10:42
I will also say ah and I
10:44
think this one is probably going to
10:46
hit home for a lot of folks.
10:48
Started Valley is very much this for
10:50
me. I have been play now a
10:52
lot lately with the one point six
10:54
updates and. I. Can't think of a
10:56
better. Like. Certain, I can't think
10:58
of a more assertive. Positive.
11:01
Game that has continued
11:04
to evolve. Over
11:06
time like it it it is A
11:09
it is a huge gains that is
11:11
the standard bearer for like this cozy
11:13
kind of vibe right? Ah, and it
11:16
is also an incredible game and also
11:18
it has been the most sort of
11:20
generous. Ah, one of the most
11:23
generous days this side of like no man's sky,
11:25
which honestly I would probably also put on this
11:27
list. Ah, That. That you can
11:29
just gonna keep up keep coming back to
11:31
and it's got new stuff for yeah it's
11:33
it feels it just feels good to play.
11:35
it says definitely a huge on the list
11:37
for me or answers people and the comments
11:40
mention that to. Weirdly, For
11:42
me that is that the even
11:44
though. Thing. You're talking about like
11:46
out and die of. I have that problem
11:49
with cozy games in general were like especially
11:51
something as addictive as Darzi where. I.
11:53
Always feel like the first day I feel
11:56
like this is exactly what I needed. And.
11:58
Then like a week as fast. I have
12:00
put all my energy and decide yeah, and
12:03
I don't really think I've I've made any
12:05
progress on whatever was wrong in my brain.
12:09
But but then it says the obviously different
12:11
for everybody like what puts you out of
12:13
a funky is. Yeah that
12:16
sort this sometimes I need. Something.
12:19
That is. Very.
12:22
Like he's numbered addictive because
12:24
is what were. They have
12:26
such connotations but like something
12:28
that like at the The
12:30
one that always brings to
12:32
my mind is I'm. You.
12:34
Misspelled both. Oh yeah, me
12:36
and us build a boat I have
12:38
installed and played through more times than
12:40
probably any other game and terms of
12:43
like I've played it, I finished it.
12:45
I'll play it again and a year
12:47
like us all about. I do consulate
12:49
and I need it when like. I'm
12:52
going to be complete like a loss has
12:54
my brain is kind of be imposed in
12:56
the thousand different directions and it seems like
12:58
nothing can get him in order. There.
13:00
Is one corporal. It's game game and
13:02
order is Capitan. You must build a
13:04
boat. Has that gets everybody in line.
13:07
There is no time to fixate on
13:09
your many failings. When you've got to
13:11
build a boat, they're still out there.
13:13
Said that. To worry about finances or
13:15
your family relations or your he mortality
13:17
each year. Fix it. I have a
13:19
baby cause you gotta build gallows. That
13:22
boat bill. It's not going to build
13:24
itself as a go into because once
13:26
you're done you know habits as you
13:28
build the boat. Jack. Shit
13:30
happens after the film has a half
13:32
hours a whole poised to bilbo as
13:34
like Justin do you feel better is
13:36
like why feel different like find goods
13:38
at one of the game will cost
13:41
three dollars What he what I think
13:43
that there is a. I
13:45
think there's a type of game. I think it's
13:47
the games we've discussed so far that like. Your
13:50
kids. your brain is so busy all
13:52
the time, like it's always thinking so
13:55
much and assorted of them. The fundamental
13:57
principle behind like you know, all meditation
13:59
and stuff like that which is like
14:01
give your brain something to do. Something.
14:04
The nine to kind of
14:06
like really focus on so
14:08
that you can. Get.
14:11
Past the just like chatter to
14:13
pass than the noise of it
14:15
and I think games like you
14:17
Must Build a boat ah or.
14:19
Ah, you know. As destiny
14:21
honestly I meant can be that and it's
14:23
our I think that you can get lost
14:26
in that to a degree that is not
14:28
particularly you know great for you, but I
14:30
think there's something incredibly powerful. About
14:32
these games that require. Kind.
14:34
Of like. Complete. Focus Ah, fund
14:37
and how that can help you
14:39
kind of. ah, you know, reset
14:41
the. Reset. The in of
14:43
you're you're thinking missing. On
14:46
that know I kind of broke mine
14:48
and ted three categories and I think
14:50
Harris to are or what your saying
14:52
and. The. Three are.
14:55
Zen games like yet games where
14:57
you are in our first date
14:59
effectively on the second is Fall
15:01
Focus games in the third one
15:03
is Lightness Dodger games. For two
15:05
separate things like that I think
15:07
I might accuse bucket yeah yeah
15:09
then game smear like steep. For.
15:11
Me or just cause two like steep you
15:13
are on a mountain in there is there
15:16
can be no goal and you are just
15:18
flowing in going wherever you want. A lot
15:20
of open world games with this once you
15:22
get away from the story mode. yeah I'm
15:24
weirdly Grand Theft Auto can be this in
15:26
some ways my you know my a big
15:28
one for me in this in this vein
15:30
as. I. Always have the
15:32
newest Spiderman game in so yeah I'm on
15:34
my system because that's a great it's a
15:36
great weather is nice echoed harm mobo like
15:39
it's a great when a pile of kids
15:41
they have the is always fun than I
15:43
can also than find like an aha yeah
15:45
I have ten minutes and be fun decide
15:48
on a scale swing around and as be
15:50
in that world for I will bet is
15:52
is great. Yeah, I'm the
15:54
flight for focus games. For me
15:57
that is like. Old.
15:59
Hardcore. Not. I'm.
16:01
Like the game that Apple or
16:03
a Cave released a long long
16:05
time ago on arcade machines. There
16:08
is a game called com Meu
16:10
she muthama Hurl A was called
16:12
Bug Princess and it was released
16:14
on I us in like two
16:16
thousand and eleven which is wild
16:18
the think that there is a
16:20
hard question of on a smartphone
16:22
that long ago and then it
16:25
controlled really well but after I
16:27
downloaded that immunities stayed on my
16:29
devices ever since and that is.
16:31
So the game of the highest
16:34
when snobs. Extremely meditative
16:36
because you learn about
16:38
patterns and once you've
16:40
like, kind of learned
16:42
it. It. Is
16:45
like her know like a rosary is a weird
16:47
comparison but. He likes
16:49
is really weird. the viruses meet your like your
16:51
you kind of like already is all muscle memory
16:53
and you yeah and of art in it they
16:56
make but you can't stop thinking about it for
16:58
even half a second even though it is muscle
17:00
memory citing I think and a similar vein and
17:02
I gotta wrap this because rest is here. Adding
17:04
Binding of Isaac as as from eyes are you
17:07
to play the same infinitely. There is a lot
17:09
of shit in it that if you have not
17:11
played in a little while. Ah,
17:14
And it is. I mean is it
17:17
requires kind of falls for focus in
17:19
order to survive. This is one I've
17:21
definitely return to over and over again.
17:23
I'm Susannah Solves The games are for
17:25
each of you and so for me
17:28
is this is tried and true. For
17:30
me, it's like. D Rpgs
17:32
for mean it is. Final
17:35
Fantasy. I mean, I just just.
17:38
Just powered. Through front of Nc
17:40
Seven and like a few hours with as
17:42
crazy do since it turned on. Ah, I
17:44
mean there's a lot like some of his
17:47
he six five as he nine is up
17:49
there. Ah, I feel like I did this
17:51
with the Dragon Quest games when I went
17:53
on sort of the last year odyssey to
17:56
play to those despite the fact that it
17:58
wasn't you know, inherently nostalgic. Played
18:00
them before they were. They. Were I mean
18:02
rainy day games in the truest sense? Ah,
18:04
Crennel Trigger Or the fact that all of
18:06
these are on my phone now is like
18:08
a perfect kind of sit for. For this
18:11
it is. It is always the stuff I
18:13
go back to operate in time. used to
18:15
used to be that I don't go back
18:17
to that well, quite as often as I
18:19
used to. but I mean I've beaten again
18:21
more tense and I can count. And.
18:24
And it it is still bat purpose for me several
18:26
times throughout my. Family. Have
18:29
a You Hoops. I.
18:32
Don't go back from the own, you
18:34
know. I really do enjoy Gone Back
18:36
and Do and like old point and
18:39
click games. that's definitely one of those
18:41
are fun to play with the kids.
18:43
I think our talks unless upset about.
18:46
Doing. Pot Pot and soon as other
18:48
human this entertainment games com with with
18:50
the kids are but those are really
18:52
funder of visit a lot of the
18:55
the. Scum Games had
18:57
gotten updated, brand great on
18:59
on modern Ah Pcs and
19:01
is really fun to return
19:03
to. The. I we might
19:05
talk about Herald Halibut a little
19:07
and then he reads and have
19:09
you everything that's that's gonna bring
19:12
in all the clear. Buckled down.
19:14
I already got my friggin. A
19:16
preorder with hundred dollar one where the
19:18
with the talking halibut that comes with
19:20
it and home like I had his
19:22
i'm like Double Xp weekend codes and
19:24
stuff. You think it was a mistake
19:27
to get the full back tattoo before
19:29
he played the game. I. Don't know
19:31
that what this game is. I've never heard of this
19:33
game. Yeah. I'll
19:35
just go to joking to the how beside
19:37
it. wasn't aware either. I had a fish
19:39
thing herald Harold How the it? It's like
19:42
of olds who point and click and they
19:44
made our claymation and then known as shit.
19:46
You gotta disagree and immediately be like oh.
19:49
Look. A plant health and me given me
19:51
game lead early and is that so go
19:53
first my first j peg i click.as I
19:55
go yeah this is a this will be
19:57
at the as it was greatly me question
19:59
my take on you will give you good
20:01
game and inside out of a prophecies I
20:03
wonder if I know anybody who could help
20:05
you. I wonder I wonder some funny
20:08
shit help you out you bird dogging me. Right
20:10
now I feel like he's bring us as I
20:12
got your i'm. Trying. To do you
20:14
favor us as I hear someone's. Gotta bring
20:16
the big dog energy and it's right now is
20:18
Chris Plant. My name is
20:21
just not. I know that they're
20:23
serial. The Weeds Downs. Okay, I
20:25
like that. I'd say a new
20:27
one that is has been serving
20:29
this purpose for me actually just
20:31
this week. Ah, it's
20:33
called Lodger Art grew more. Wow
20:35
has her heart. how do you
20:37
do it For him War Art
20:39
grew More studies a first word
20:41
I suspect cross Man yes it
20:43
is that has picked that like
20:45
a magic so it's a really
20:47
good pick cross that has a
20:49
lot of really great information. when
20:51
you're solving pick cross puzzle like
20:53
it highlights Rose where there is
20:55
a clue that you could derive
20:57
the divine from it. So like
20:59
those of. The. Rose you should
21:01
look at to like ah that you might
21:03
actually be able to sell something and say
21:05
like you don't have to waste your time
21:07
will heal Rows and columns the you. That
21:10
are have no helps you and there's come amid
21:12
a puzzle layer. Were. After you
21:14
solve the individual puzzles, you
21:16
have defined more by combining
21:19
the elements like the shapes
21:21
that you're finding, like combining.
21:24
The a water shape and a tree shape
21:26
to make a forest. And. Amd is
21:29
a larger puzzle the of dissolves your
21:31
last name, your fusing the puzzles together
21:33
and having to like solve what you
21:35
need to the mind. To. Make
21:37
the large class On seemed eggs with
21:40
this ah yes, gray on seem deck
21:42
mouse or. Controller. Is
21:44
great I give you a is got
21:46
a bajillion puzzles and it's odd. Hey
21:48
the fun thing about about a Cross
21:50
for me is like a don't. Discuss.
21:53
On So weird. I
21:55
don't think it's that fun. But
21:58
I bought like he can do it.
22:00
Yeah, and there's something satisfying to be
22:02
about the work know, like the as
22:05
about the nature of white. And it's
22:07
not that I'm not smart enough for
22:09
this. Is. Just I have to slow
22:11
down enough to actually do at some kind of like.
22:14
Bonsai. Tree about a man like
22:16
workmen like like i'm gonna go through
22:18
this and there's not gonna be the
22:20
like fund swishy aha moments that you
22:22
get with as a crossword read like
22:24
I it's all coming together now I'm
22:26
just gonna sit here and fuckin' civil
22:28
and hammer and of like pick it
22:30
apart until to done Ag I like
22:32
I dig that and I don't find
22:34
it like. It's a
22:36
very different sensation. A don't find
22:39
that like. Addictive right? Yeah, Bill
22:41
Latrobe. When I finish run of Mike our
22:43
pop one more and this is just like
22:45
wire. I've done this for a certain amount
22:47
of time and I'm done doing this accident.
22:49
I don't need to do this more. Who
22:51
the I mean it sounds exactly did have
22:53
meditative thing that we are talking about. Riot
22:56
the make. A can do
22:58
it. It. Doesn't require that much
23:00
for me but I do have to
23:02
pay enough attention to focus just on
23:04
as not whatever else could be rock'n'roll
23:06
my brain The Rain guys ever consider
23:08
in this have you ever have the
23:10
as the thought of like. Wanting.
23:13
To place your game to not
23:15
for the experience of doing it
23:17
but to. Keep. A
23:20
skill set or knowledge base that
23:22
you worked hard to. Sort of
23:24
a crew sometimes. Yeah, My
23:26
it's is that is not my guiding
23:28
him impulse I think. But ah I
23:31
got pretty into Sydow to for a
23:33
while because of. It's
23:36
called good sudoku. they i
23:38
like delegates version of that.
23:40
Are. I would feel I owe Enchant Like Chess
23:42
absolutely The chess app with like all of the
23:45
puzzles and said no air b time for I
23:47
kind of like the graduate school he would be
23:49
like well. I gotta
23:51
I gotta get back in the a guy
23:53
keep this sharp as if I don't you
23:55
know if you'd certainly I would say says
23:57
is a fair. I mean. They're. Adding.
24:00
Here when I definitely do
24:02
that Obama I I think
24:04
the most effective kind of
24:06
game experience for shaken off.
24:09
Does. Does Tuesday Blues is any anything
24:11
that is kind of not multiplayer for me
24:13
that is always going on. In fact it's
24:15
because for me like eyes of the when
24:18
I get bummed out. Most of the time
24:20
it is because I am not. You
24:23
know I have not been socialized recently.
24:25
Ah, that's a that's a really good
24:27
point griff and then say something that.
24:29
That. If you're working in
24:31
a home environment, you bull frequently
24:33
go. Like. For five
24:36
days And to say have I left
24:38
this building today? yeah have I have
24:40
I s and left this building this
24:42
company yeah that that's why I love
24:45
like a you know hell diverse see
24:47
as easy as a huge one. ah
24:49
like any anything that is fun and
24:52
multiplayer up a it and now that
24:54
you know. We've. All we've
24:56
all got kids henry seven like.
24:58
I. Feel like this is also kind of
25:01
minecraft from for me he or man
25:03
Smash Brothers Ultimate is one that I
25:05
could play with Henry any time and
25:07
we will have a really good time
25:09
and it is enough to kind of
25:11
like. You know boost my
25:13
mood. I always feel like better after
25:15
playing after playing that game Own with
25:18
him and that is a really a
25:20
special thing. Yeah they love for trying
25:22
to like the Lego games with that
25:25
is one that we we duck back
25:27
in on. i'm from from time to
25:29
time we keep then install. Com.
25:34
Skyn Desk A James Any any any
25:37
other last little name's you wanna drop
25:39
Now I mean I I wish I
25:41
mean I I wish I had work
25:44
or I wish I had more are
25:46
you must build a boat type experiences
25:48
A specially I will say this a
25:51
lot more. These used to be Iowa
25:53
space for me and that's really I
25:55
feel like has gotten hard to have
25:57
an experience. With. I.
26:00
o It doesn't feel like. It's
26:03
trying to keep you playing it forever constantly.
26:05
The you know the does invite you to
26:07
sort of like return to It Arms progressed
26:09
and Ninety Nine is one that I have
26:12
gone through. Several times
26:14
I'll also I'm ah, there
26:16
is no game. Than. Than
26:18
that's one that I like to do every
26:20
every year so it's lot of fun yet?
26:22
Yeah, the only other thing I can mention
26:24
is going to help. Like a local video
26:27
game shop. Is.
26:29
Very pull me out of the fuck. Am.
26:32
I on the I think maybe because when
26:34
I was a kid I didn't own a
26:36
lot of games but like going to Blockbuster,
26:38
going anywhere like that and just like averages
26:41
and looking around I another something about the
26:43
sense memory there that really does it for
26:45
me and I am I want I really
26:47
admire my game solves all forgive my hero
26:50
academia crock pot No no no not not
26:52
not not like. Do
26:54
you have any like a local? Wow Wow.
26:56
So funny. A
26:59
Geiger have to have a local game shop. I
27:02
got like a local are going game sought
27:04
know like a local like an outside Dame
27:07
Dame stop. Assists in town
27:09
arenas. it's local. Now there is the
27:11
i don't think there's an indie game
27:13
store in in. Not as bad as
27:15
far as and local cinema. Well no
27:17
grass because it down the milk flea
27:19
market is okay. I
27:21
mean I guess the I guess that counts. Inside
27:24
the Milton Flea Markets you are less
27:27
You add the Milton Flea Market please?
27:29
Okay, got it, Got it. You know
27:31
Griff? I should say there's like I'm.
27:35
A. Time Warp and Iceland.
27:37
They do feel that the Aslan.
27:39
I mean, Aslan is where it's
27:41
fucking man. Yeah, man is. Is
27:43
great, were really narrow casting we need
27:46
to work, have varied or whatever and
27:48
all that milton flea markets just. Ah,
27:52
look at the break and then let's. Skip
27:56
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27:58
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30:06
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30:09
much time to skip forward if they do not
30:11
once? Boy, when are they want to hear that?
30:13
What have they not been served? You know, mean,
30:15
like. The. In part we get to
30:17
impart now say I mean, I bet there is
30:19
sit We have avoided discussing this game that I
30:22
think we're all kind of wild about. Did.
30:24
You finish a plant. Is at war on
30:26
our have twelve hit the in part done for
30:28
their with and get into the game. Okay I'm
30:30
in a set a timer my phone for ten
30:33
minutes. No. No no like does that leave
30:35
us that restrain there for to say last against
30:37
it it's Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo! And
30:39
to see under the episodes. You care about what
30:41
happens is a game to listen. To this am
30:44
very played it and do listen to okay
30:46
that's good that's fine to thank you. I'll
30:50
get to answer your question Garson. I've.
30:52
Not beaten this game because
30:54
I that to the very
30:56
final boss and I did
30:58
not get all of my
31:00
jobs corrupt and despite blasting
31:02
through this area into the
31:04
game the final bosses effectively
31:06
impossible for me and I
31:08
mean to go back to Old
31:11
Save and. Respect.
31:13
Affect our tax which is a bummer how that is
31:15
that the biggest down or I'm gonna say about this
31:17
whole game. Which. Had do that We
31:19
can't be. The Eiger can spoil a free
31:21
them are now we don't have. talk about
31:24
the ending. Uma you really can because I've
31:26
our our why why everything ironed out I've
31:28
I watched it. Are you Ah Sanders is
31:30
good right? It's like a video. A video
31:32
game that is good that has blasted it's
31:34
yeah I will. I think that this is
31:36
still my favorite team of the year and
31:38
I think said it's one of those games
31:40
that the further I get from it the
31:42
more I. Appreciate it! I this
31:45
this year it had such say like
31:47
line up of they Are Pcs that
31:49
I was like this is gimme. Gimme
31:51
my your mom be eaten good and
31:53
this is the only one that I
31:55
think has really actually. Ah,
31:57
and an hour for Filberts. It's
32:00
promise and will. I figured I think there
32:02
is some people who are probably listening who
32:04
may be did not play the game because
32:07
at the a massive time commitment of like
32:09
what was the game for you what what
32:11
what worked. On. The
32:13
writing and the sort of
32:15
characterization of of of everyone
32:18
in this game is next
32:20
level good. Ah, and I
32:22
don't think I even really appreciated that
32:25
as much until I played. In.
32:27
A Persona three reload which can left me
32:29
in the cold and some fancy seven read
32:32
birth which also less certain left me in
32:34
the colds. Ah those games had lots of
32:36
characters in them and you know at least
32:38
in the case of front of his is
32:41
only characters that I love. but it I
32:43
don't know that I was. My
32:45
relationship to those characters is changing and
32:47
the way that. It
32:50
it made that happen with
32:52
like a dragon and well
32:54
I'm just really really really
32:56
sympathetic characters making like release
32:58
some choices that they I
33:00
think explain incredibly well and
33:02
ah it's it. Really It
33:04
really just tells a story
33:06
where you are rooting for
33:09
everyone in it. ah like
33:11
a lot and that makes
33:13
everything that happens in the
33:15
story at that point like
33:17
hit ten times harder. It
33:19
is. The fast and furious as video
33:21
game to zaps even maggie yeah but even
33:23
that I feel like hundred although as know
33:25
why it at all levels of like human
33:27
connection that they are able to get to
33:30
I feel like. Would not be
33:32
sustainable. The Me: I'm Back be as I'd
33:34
like. I really liked the fast and furious
33:36
movies. Up until a point that they've they've
33:38
come obviously spiraled off. They've gotten too fast
33:40
too serious. But
33:43
it is a game and which.
33:45
The the heroes are the
33:47
even just feel a tremendous
33:50
love by the authors or
33:52
of. For all these years
33:54
they've been. Love these people. They want them
33:56
to succeed and do well in a once
33:58
of villains too be for. The heroes
34:00
and then also be rich characters
34:02
in there comes a point for
34:04
almost every character in this game
34:06
where it's like wow, okay it's
34:08
time to love them to let
34:10
let's bring him into the fold
34:12
and now they're part of the
34:14
family and even even the most
34:16
despicable person can be loved and
34:19
daring the very end. And I
34:21
think that approach just storytelling. It
34:24
does allow at every character to feel
34:26
warm, really fleshed out and off. opposite.
34:29
they have what sixty seventy hours to
34:31
a flesh out these characters. In a
34:33
lot of the time that you're in
34:35
the open world, you are still learning
34:38
about the characters. It's not, there's a
34:40
dearth Duncan wrong there a lot of
34:42
cut scenes in this game, but there
34:45
are also these on little triggers that
34:47
you find throughout the open world that
34:49
just have constant conversations between your characters
34:52
and where we're leaders at the. Time
34:54
so you need Sure you get
34:56
like the bigger conversations about like
34:58
oh I feel I'm indebted to
35:00
this young woman on because I've
35:02
failed to prevent a robbery at
35:04
her family's store. but then that
35:07
same character like I like comic
35:09
books but I don't like comic
35:11
books that are about combat. I
35:13
just like romance and suddenly it's
35:15
like wow was that You. Didn't
35:18
know I would learn that about you, but now you
35:20
are getting more and more fleshed out. Yeah.
35:22
It has a inability to give
35:24
you information about As and it's
35:26
weird how few games actually do
35:29
do this. Ah, and I think
35:31
you see it more in. Japanese
35:34
games and Japanese game storytelling is
35:36
that adding care details that have
35:38
nothing to do. With. The
35:40
actual experience, right? So when you're
35:43
reading a book, You. Are
35:45
all the information that is given to
35:47
you typically is in service of the
35:49
story that has been told in the
35:51
book right? So like it's probably something
35:54
is going to help you. Imagine the
35:56
burger help you be on the same
35:58
levels. The author. The game
36:00
storytelling has learned a lot of lessons
36:02
from that were a lot of the
36:04
info that you're getting has is specific
36:06
to. Whatever. The story as as
36:08
being told about the character. And. I
36:11
sagging Games like this where you
36:13
are getting information about characters. that
36:15
is. In no way
36:17
relevant. To. The main
36:19
plot. Point. Because it's
36:21
a world that you're living in, it
36:24
helps to build that realism. Yeah, I
36:26
think that there's a discordant saying in
36:28
American videogame storytelling where it's like a
36:30
view is a character has anything about
36:33
them that is not actually related to
36:35
the story that has been told. That
36:37
it feels very weird. Like I feel
36:39
like discordant kind of out of nowhere,
36:42
right? But. Is as elegant Japanese
36:44
game storytelling and the and the way that fizzled
36:46
that more lived in an organic like you can.
36:49
Get more in tune with who they is
36:51
people rather than just you know, six years
36:53
in a in a narrative. This this game
36:55
also is so that the width of the
36:58
story that it tells is so. Vast
37:01
that ah he it very so bopper
37:03
a where it has like a ton
37:05
of characters, all of whom have their
37:07
own shit going on. Yeah and I
37:09
think at times it doesn't do the
37:11
best job of like fine all that
37:14
stuff back to gather. but I think
37:16
by the you know by the time
37:18
the two thirds. Mark of the game or
37:20
sell like it hits have full full tilt. Like.
37:23
Buggy to to the and that is just
37:25
really fucking good. Like really really really really
37:27
satisfied and I'm a to care about characters
37:30
that you did not really anticipate caring about
37:32
and a new care about them a lot.
37:34
I think this does a great. Rival
37:38
to buddy Arc with your my
37:40
be sort of perpetually cold yappy
37:42
like a low level yakuza. Boss
37:44
is just kind of like passers
37:46
you throughout the whole game and
37:48
then at the end I you
37:50
learn his kind of like tragic
37:52
origin and are there for like
37:54
the. Conclusion of that
37:56
which like genuinely brought a tear to
37:58
my i would. Video Games. At
38:01
the historically have not really been successful
38:03
at doing to me on unless so
38:05
I have a list of awards taiwan
38:07
and as so sit yeah go ahead
38:09
of so I'm of one that I
38:12
have is out of the award for
38:14
best supporting character and y se supporting
38:16
character. I mean somebody who actually fights
38:18
alongside you have how com who who
38:20
who is gonna be your winner. I
38:24
mean can I give it to you my there are
38:26
times where you fight alongside him. He's only get Yemen
38:28
technically. yeah you can. I was. I was hooked, eat
38:30
and this fucking do was on screen I was like
38:32
yeah I'm down for whatever you say very cold You
38:34
mean literally who he wears a very viewers a jacket
38:36
he talks about how cool the A solid them yeah
38:39
yeah he's also he is also. Emotionally
38:41
cold and dad and I like
38:43
a bat boy something yeah series
38:45
of the people who become somewhat
38:47
friends. He is the bad as
38:49
dude. Yep for sure for some
38:52
I just didn't have as you. Are
39:01
at were saying other than like
39:03
easy bond or or. Syria.
39:06
I'm sure you use that way which we have
39:08
that said, yet there are effectively to. Like.
39:10
A dragon games in this one like
39:12
a graph dragon name yeah that's weird
39:14
as and I had to guess so
39:16
how does your so but the Ama
39:18
returned to this this answered yet address
39:20
of attacks ah I'm I I've by
39:22
the end I was fully on board.
39:24
Ah I think that I struggled a
39:26
bit once the game and of by
39:28
for Kate's around the would you say
39:30
like the halfway point maybe even a
39:32
little bit before that more now than
39:34
you have to parties one led by
39:36
carry one led by ah you to
39:38
bond because I I. Didn't
39:40
know care you that well. I've not
39:42
played all the other yakuza games. I
39:45
didn't have this kind of like connection
39:47
that you could tell the game was
39:49
counting on you to have with them.
39:51
His there his entire story line is
39:53
him kind of making amends with his
39:55
pass and coming to terms with his
39:57
his mortality were like cancer diagnosis. Which
40:00
is a heavy fog and thing for a game. Did.
40:03
To throw at you. But I I
40:05
think this game does it. Really
40:07
really well. And even though I didn't know
40:09
this dude from Adam you know when the
40:11
when the game started I was. I was
40:13
fully bought in. My Aunt. I.
40:15
Did like Okay for sell off a
40:17
I decided on Sow. Ah he's
40:20
out. Why he has like the assess do
40:22
that is just like a fun. Energy.
40:25
I think to have around and I like all this
40:27
talk about cooking. When you're
40:29
at run around town. I liked him as a
40:31
person more than like a player will character just
40:33
go as high and site was interesting about ahead
40:35
and stuff that's Wild Azalea. Eyes
40:38
I feel like the the. I.
40:42
Was a little frustrated with the cancer thing.
40:45
Because. I feel like it
40:47
is a little bit cheap. For.
40:50
The solution to that that swiss
40:52
a leave you like feeling positive
40:55
about it The dissolution of it
40:57
is. He's. Going to try to
40:59
fight having cancer. To. Me, I
41:01
understand why that says to be of
41:04
listing but up on the other hand
41:06
it's like is such a real thing
41:08
to summon up and that's not really
41:10
real representative of the. I
41:12
think the struggle that most people who
41:14
would be in that situation would have
41:16
right like that would almost be a
41:18
a given. Yeah so it it is
41:20
seals a little bit sketchy to me
41:23
to like bring something that real into
41:25
the story and for it not to
41:27
be a story about like processing that
41:29
but rather about like the decision to.
41:31
Take. Action: a guy at my maybe
41:34
a cultural difference. Rather, Than anything
41:36
else. Yeah, and I'm I'm I'm wondering
41:38
about the cultural difference there, because I
41:40
think how often I come across this
41:43
in Japanese art. Make it
41:45
just in recent memory. I mean, the
41:47
Wind Rises This. The entire theme of
41:49
that movie is like. The. Choice
41:51
to live even when you feel
41:53
like tremendous kilter sorrow. I'm the
41:55
most recent Godzilla Minus one is
41:57
her in higher? really? about that?
42:00
And I don't know I would be
42:02
a great thing to be able to
42:04
talk with somebody about elisa Japanese culture
42:06
critic I I but yeah I do
42:08
think and is pretty big spoiler. Ah,
42:12
I feel like it was beach for
42:14
the these. The power of this story
42:16
line is betrayed by the fact that
42:18
it's all about him. The
42:20
basically it's literally a bucket less likelihood to
42:23
be you i your quest last six. it's
42:25
called theories bucket lists and it's like him
42:27
doing all that. but then at the into
42:29
the game he does not die. Somehow.
42:32
Feels yeah I feel a felt like a
42:34
pretty huge fucking cop out. And then there's
42:36
a lot of baggage associate with like games
42:38
and game franchises especially once had been a
42:41
long for around for this long were like.
42:44
You. Know the whole game you're playing missing like wow
42:46
they're really going to kill off to are you like
42:48
they're really going to tell really the way and I
42:50
get felt real Seattle brave and cool and then it
42:52
doesn't and that was. That
42:54
that was dead by was disappointing from as hear
42:57
the tone of the game was a bit betrayed
42:59
by that. For people who are are gonna play
43:01
this in the haven't played on a lot of
43:03
the. Lock is the games. I.
43:06
Think secure you story still works
43:08
really well despite it being a
43:10
literally you mention the bucket list
43:12
one. You're going and doing things
43:14
you've always wanted to do that
43:16
to you are collecting memories right
43:18
from across the entire series. I
43:20
love and I I think it
43:23
is so beautiful if you play
43:25
these games is great because it's
43:27
a trip down memory lane. but
43:29
if you haven't. It's
43:31
talking about like literature. It
43:33
feels like you are just
43:35
learning more about this character.
43:38
It. Doesn't feel like I'm will. you
43:40
remember every little detail here so we're
43:42
not gonna say anything. It know it
43:44
it. It really really tries to bring
43:47
in every person playing the game and
43:49
I just felt like I was learning
43:51
more about. This. Person rather
43:53
than learning more about this video games
43:55
here with our been so satisfying. United
43:58
to place as if you are somebody the
44:00
world's end of the whole frame Iowa jealous
44:02
of people who I kept thinking like our
44:04
but that was in I would say the
44:06
as a guy kept thinking that to like
44:08
kind of frustrating degree like I felt a
44:10
lot of the time like. And.
44:12
This is good so you be really good
44:14
if I like got of I, I, I,
44:17
I, I mean violent. I played quite a
44:19
bit of these games and I don't think
44:21
you miss out. I feel bad the you
44:23
I'd had that nagging feeling. it's because whenever
44:25
I thought I'd yeah most to have like
44:27
a oh yeah. You never
44:30
met like I've I have the ice. I
44:32
felt that constantly with each month storyline know
44:34
cause I always I did play all of
44:36
like a drag air yeah the original Yakuza
44:38
like a dream the first yeah Rpg games
44:40
as with each bonds and like seen centers
44:43
roll up. From. That game was
44:45
always like really really exciting. Ah
44:47
and I've I mean I started
44:49
this game out like fully fucking
44:51
bought in on this dude. which
44:53
I you know, There. Aren't
44:55
a lot of good an. Rpg.
44:58
Sequels True sequels right? like new Fancy Aid
45:00
is not a single. Finally he seven really
45:02
ah far as the X to I guess
45:04
as far as he ted's sequel but like
45:06
you don't get that traditionally and pharmacy tend
45:09
to was not a very good game right?
45:11
and so like. I've already
45:13
spent seventy hours with this guy and
45:15
so I'm I'm picking up where I
45:18
left off with him and I'm like
45:20
so so deep into it and man
45:22
alive to they reward that like. By.
45:25
The end of this game. The last cut
45:27
scene of this game. I guess it's one
45:29
of the last cut scenes of eg. Bon.
45:31
Ah, walking. I
45:34
think easy was his name who was
45:36
like this little kind of crony to
45:38
sit head who was just this kind
45:41
of and a nasty do the whole
45:43
game not a fun way like am
45:45
I but as like as a vindictive
45:47
little prick the whole game like each
45:49
bongos to him and like. Talk
45:52
to him about redemption in a way that. Is
45:54
a bit heavy handed but totally fitting with the
45:56
character in the don't Have the Game Yeah and
45:59
then picks him. Because he a
46:01
basically this guy sacrificed his legs
46:03
in order to get this ruse
46:06
working ah and carries him through
46:08
the streets of com A roach.
46:10
A while people throw garbage at.
46:13
Can in a cut scene that last.
46:15
So. Five minutes cigarette minute. it's
46:17
it is a long have you set
46:20
to a song. ah and it's just
46:22
just a crisis like my hurts amazing
46:24
through the streets of of Camarota as
46:26
as he just gets pelted with garbage
46:28
and beat the fuck up. There's.
46:30
A scene where he sets a you down and
46:32
like this guy just punches him over and over
46:34
and over again and then. Each. Bunch
46:36
of stands up and picks the guy.
46:39
ever get a sense walking and everybody
46:41
just kind of like steps back like
46:43
in in wonderment. like watching their own
46:45
kind of impression of this dude shifting
46:48
silently and real to like that is
46:50
a red, a bleak, incredibly rich sit
46:52
the I don't know I have ever
46:54
seen. As hit any video game
46:57
pull off before. I will also say
46:59
that it's really cool. To.
47:01
Have a main character see and on
47:03
the house with this has and it's
47:06
really cool play a main character who
47:08
you feel like as a good influence
47:10
on the world around them. My allies.
47:13
And I as hell yeah, I love
47:15
a lotta open world Rpg ease. Arm
47:18
and I am sorry Gees is horribly
47:20
and a lotta times eat how you
47:22
roll into a situation it feels like
47:24
the subtext is here comes trouble here
47:26
I come and of wreck shit uncommon
47:28
in your base to wreck your shit.
47:30
I'm coming in the you know all
47:32
of a high rise hill all the
47:34
bag I am and it's like. Each
47:38
of our really enters into situations
47:40
to be a help and like.
47:42
That. Is the overarching and which is so
47:45
cool about it is that. He
47:47
is see seals unique in that. But.
47:50
Then what you see is that.
47:52
Light. Refracted through all these
47:54
other characters that enter into
47:57
a video game. In. Any
47:59
other video games that they would be
48:01
dispatched as mid level bosses. Tommy's our
48:03
whole arc through that as starting as
48:05
like at a low level York as
48:08
a con man who robs eg. bon
48:10
and then by the end is like
48:12
his fucking best friend and a good
48:14
dude. Who. Have attained closer on
48:16
this like really heavy shit that he's dealt
48:18
with his whole like like that and that's
48:21
fucking amazing man. So zawahri my favorite actually
48:23
i'm i'm like to was Albus but ah
48:25
the the fact that like you see all
48:27
these characters that are. At
48:29
at the end of the fight. Each
48:32
one is like okay, so what's gone on?
48:34
Like what are we doing here? We are
48:36
happening without Right now, what is happening And
48:38
then there's an actual covered. even tighter. It
48:40
definitely does that feel like they're going to
48:42
be able to flips a buddy. It's like
48:44
I'll be damned. I buy it and it's
48:47
just because you buy easy by being such
48:49
an absolute mins all the time what nana
48:51
at. I think there's two reasons for that
48:53
one is it's not. you're not like a
48:55
therapist. And not right that money
48:57
be from Texas because he's the hero
48:59
of the hims they are behind and
49:02
have sex. Here it goes that it
49:04
is as their therapists characters tend to
49:06
be like. And here's why you're feeling.
49:08
this is your bonds trick is T
49:10
is just naturally curious about other people
49:12
and evil as is coming And I'm
49:14
like I actually cares about people. Yes,
49:16
it's not like how can I fix
49:18
you, It's like he's like what's I'm
49:20
genuinely curious. what's wrong. Yeah. And
49:23
like having somebody says that out loud street
49:25
even saying that some like as someone saying
49:27
that to me that would it would be
49:29
arresting to save and something like that. He
49:31
also has an attitude a lot of the
49:33
time this like ah now this is fucking
49:35
door go to my dumb sir and my
49:37
stupid haircut like where I can't be that
49:39
great so what are you got gonna was
49:41
he with your general that the best part
49:43
about this like to part like to have
49:46
story line is see like. Clear.
49:48
You the ultimate fucking God
49:50
of. A deep as
49:52
you know Japanese organized crime
49:54
world. Ah, get rubbed off
49:56
on faith by this fucking
49:59
dorks. He didn't. really
50:01
really really really good and interesting
50:03
like character development that. Ah,
50:06
That this this is white like talking about this
50:08
game gets me emotional which is like yeah lot
50:10
which is plucking while in my head I'm thinking
50:12
like how many going to justify playing a heads
50:14
up all right I'm thinking god I want to
50:17
hang out with he to panic to they pleased
50:19
as make a new another one of these a
50:21
sap there's this is one other half of the
50:23
each ship. I'm puzzled that. Our. Discuss
50:25
To. Which. Is the
50:28
game itself has complex
50:30
views on what good
50:32
is. Not I think that
50:34
helps you have faith in it and
50:36
listen to wherever the game and each
50:39
one has to say. Like the this
50:41
game is largely about criminal reform and
50:43
the idea that like. Sure
50:46
you'd use you will be punished
50:48
for what your the crimes you
50:50
commits but then we need of
50:52
have a reasonable and productive way
50:54
to bring you back and society
50:56
otherwise we are just perpetuating a
50:59
a cycle of of crime and
51:01
at the gas at ferrite you
51:03
the public In that period of
51:05
people who have committed a crime
51:07
like people want to grow and
51:09
change and the game. This has
51:11
such a a compassionate view that
51:13
few few games and few honestly
51:15
people. Have found a villain. He
51:17
is systemic guys with a villain.
51:19
He is Japan. A Benefits Japan
51:22
to work with these criminals and
51:24
the benefits. The. This religion
51:26
because it's tight, like all of those
51:28
forces are a line. It's not distinguishing
51:30
necessarily between the government and the crime
51:32
bosses and the religious people as com
51:35
like letting them be all sir systemically
51:37
a problem and that is only address
51:39
by like individual good people working with
51:41
in that system and car outside of
51:43
it in which is why he always
51:45
wants to reform whoever is coming out
51:48
of it because again it's like i
51:50
i don't want to blame you for
51:52
being apart yeah I get how you
51:54
got pulled an. Reply think
51:56
they're playing be the first game. I
51:58
also again like. Really?
52:01
Selfish because you get to see like.
52:04
That each been as someone
52:06
who had doors open for
52:08
him. To. Redemption through
52:11
acts of like kindness and
52:13
sacrifice. And he just
52:15
becomes all about like paying it
52:18
forward and and that is. That.
52:20
Is just an incredibly effect
52:22
is like storytelling tool. Real.
52:25
Quick before you move on, because I know that
52:27
we probably need to at a certain point. Isn't
52:30
it weird that we contact about how
52:33
this is to games and then they
52:35
put a third better game inside these
52:37
two. Pretty good. ah yes yeah about
52:39
that. yeah that I could have buried
52:41
creme egg with but there are stories
52:43
being on the outside and then the
52:46
creamy good be center in Iraq island
52:48
the aperture. Ah, The i
52:50
never remember names of some video games as
52:52
like this whole thing as front of my
52:54
for me and like I can recall this
52:56
yeah agreed yeah I've yeah stunt other and
52:58
poker might like it fears to creams inside
53:00
hear that it ever do to my mind
53:03
at all. Ah man a sushi bar cream
53:05
is so it's an acquired taste and I
53:07
just that was a system that was a
53:09
whole part of the game where it's like
53:11
as I'm going to get scissors or gonna
53:13
have to make some cuts he and I
53:15
target of my life if I see those
53:17
fucking weirdos out. Know that
53:19
that? That's wild though right? as I had
53:22
the same issue where it is actually too
53:24
much good stuff most games you play and
53:26
like man I can really added this down.
53:28
Yeah in sheer I was like man this
53:30
sucks with i really want to go finish
53:33
that thing. But. I I
53:35
I gotta keep going unlike was real at
53:37
Orly I made at a certain point you
53:39
have to start lobby and stuff off or
53:41
you're just not gonna get for at length.
53:43
Other games come out you to move on
53:45
Hit before he raps and well I have
53:48
a little less of the awards I want
53:50
to give. I want to pay a price
53:52
I'm I also my a supporting character tito
53:54
say as it has a cell site him
53:56
says so fucking good so fucking good arm
53:58
all earning a rebel twisted. The other end
54:00
in the back. Like the tail end
54:02
of this game when you find out if
54:04
she's this the horrible V to bird that
54:07
like the inciting incident for the game and
54:09
then like as to kind of redeem herself
54:11
for that like Miriam the scary all all
54:13
the arts of all the other characters in
54:15
some rentable award for best job. Oh
54:19
ah, I'm. The. Desperadoes
54:21
to for well whatever reason you get your
54:23
now. Boy dang that's really good. Yeah I
54:25
love the Desperado the those moves are great
54:28
to yeah Cloudburst with this shit. The Bottles
54:30
of Yale series or of drama of Dragon
54:32
of their Jima is really great. yeah gives
54:34
over in the game into a fuckin beat
54:37
him up for yeah thirty seconds if you
54:39
want to. ah I like I got a
54:41
big to I pods year the answer was
54:44
actually tower wilde idea of. They had some
54:46
interesting interesting the have people in those roles,
54:48
they mess of saboteurs for every cut scene.
54:50
Of every job unlock or you see
54:53
people like you know surfing and then
54:55
you're like and they used You go
54:57
into the sunken place inside their mind
54:59
and the they realize like oh wait
55:01
I can use this kick ass. A
55:04
dolphin of that whole the whole lot
55:06
that trainer that home like job class
55:08
that has the surfer i think as
55:10
down at the dolphin right behind us
55:12
as the big business or ford attacker
55:15
to say spends a surfboard around them.
55:17
As good as a god. I love
55:19
this fucking com. Really I was worried.
55:21
I mean there's a whole job of
55:23
people make curry and them blow fire
55:25
at people and homes. Award for best
55:27
ending Which there to endings to the
55:29
same there is the i mean why
55:31
are you clear waste island and there's
55:33
the Japanese skyscraper. Fuck. Man.
55:36
I. Mean. I had
55:38
to. Skyscraper showdown is pretty fucking tight. It's
55:40
pretty cool. I know it probably put the
55:42
bad taste as your mouth risk of I
55:44
think that's probably the Va site that you
55:46
honestly it doesn't even bother that me much.
55:48
I I know what I did rhine and
55:50
I am. I'm excited to go. I will
55:52
say that that is basically also how the
55:54
first like a dragon game ends and that
55:56
when I actually think it's way harder I
55:58
think that be I think indo the lot
56:00
of stuff really well. I think that the.
56:03
Like. Arch enemy that they set
56:05
up in the first. like a dragon
56:08
it hits so it's cel mai charts
56:10
like everything is focused. To. A
56:12
new don't like? yeah we domicile Nine hundred and he's
56:14
a bad guy. like even going into the end of
56:16
it like and I that was her. the big by
56:18
as their. Vote
56:21
related to that award for best boss fight.
56:23
We didn't actually actually did. Did you have
56:25
a preference on the endings? I didn't even
56:27
get that from now. Ah,
56:29
I'm. Now.
56:32
I will now. Now. Yeah. I'm
56:35
our best phosphorite and this could
56:37
have include any any many bosses.
56:40
Return that to Rains or you
56:42
you're fine analyzers with other bulldozers.
56:45
That's all the great through the card taped for
56:47
be through the context of that is also boss
56:49
fights the first games and so when one of
56:52
these crane so up and people like what the
56:54
fuck are like the i don't worry we got
56:56
we got this one one is the get ahead
56:58
and get a better that that guy frame rolls
57:00
up and they're like oh wait oh see a.secular
57:02
sphere of oh now that could possibly happen. In
57:04
a video game is that they thought of one crane
57:06
and last game in a fight to in the second
57:09
half that they are sounds awesome powers or old it's
57:11
really really as good. Ah ah yeah
57:13
I'd that The shark is solid. The
57:15
imagine this isn't the first day of
57:17
his or her to as good as
57:19
shark but the I'm the giant ah
57:21
vacuum our robot vacuum or three an
57:24
hour. Always right when it shows up.
57:26
Ah hang on for you Chris Flat
57:28
Biggest mechanic that you didn't engage with.
57:30
Our. Audience and Susie
57:32
on. More. I opened it. Tied
57:34
to that the Cg Mansour. With.
57:37
A job plaster I was so
57:39
excited about. But because I didn't
57:41
go hard on Cg, mine are
57:43
not worth Cg man. Huge disappointment.
57:45
I did all the pseudo yasser.
57:47
I did the whole Susie Months'
57:49
story line unlock the Cg mansour
57:51
and it was docs It it
57:53
was okay. good, so disappointed. Arms:
57:55
yeah I mean other mechanics they
57:57
use. I always forgot to use
57:59
the. Yeah, mean that a segway
58:01
that you can ride around on
58:03
as I kept forgetting about it.
58:05
Now I never have those kinds
58:07
of ring I never called anybody
58:09
into a fight. white you didn't
58:11
use power Mates stylized how made
58:13
out really good at this game
58:15
I'm really good as yeah no
58:17
I didn't need I help but
58:19
I loved him in the one
58:21
of the first ones you get.
58:23
ah is there from the Crazy
58:25
Taxi Bite game. You.
58:28
Either the guy like. Soon. As
58:31
you extra health and it's so
58:33
helpful. I'm in and tough fights
58:35
but he had damn and I'm
58:37
I'm I'm genuinely surprised. Ah, Ah
58:41
best over the last one. Best
58:43
side mission so like or side
58:46
quests. Man the fuckin'
58:48
one of the the dude
58:50
making overeager of reality so
58:52
obsessed with the modern Saver
58:54
I was really good is
58:57
just a it's just a
58:59
series. Of lawlessly executed
59:01
jokes. Sure that with flawless
59:03
timing that they keep building
59:06
the site. You know
59:08
it's easy bon are reacting to like
59:10
will do i want to eat this
59:12
dope hawaiian food or just as flame
59:14
this plain rice in the samurai style
59:16
and like wow I guess this guy
59:18
wants me to do the dumb samurai
59:20
sit but then like the guy breaks
59:22
down it's like yeah you know I
59:24
struggle with feelings as self doubt an
59:26
impostor syndrome and maybe this whole says
59:28
is dumb idea and an easy bomb
59:31
like you know does his thing and
59:33
supports him and he feel like this
59:35
moment of connection and growth he's like
59:37
okay great. So now you
59:39
can chop off your finger in
59:41
the samurai style at it's like
59:43
right back into this really really
59:45
some said ah it is it
59:47
is so so good. Also the
59:49
whole diaper man for feel like
59:51
this Simply Gibbs I'd visit as
59:53
the with our big. Business.
59:55
Thousand Nine hundred safe for Mayor
59:57
Ah man. in the first game.
1:00:00
You. Find his underground club of.
1:00:03
Basically. Adult babies who play like dude
1:00:05
like big burly due to wear diapers and
1:00:07
he just like like this lifestyle. They'd like
1:00:09
to be baby select, be treated by babes
1:00:12
and escape. you find a man who's very
1:00:14
sad on the street or you're older man
1:00:16
of his wife is dying and else he
1:00:18
wants to see a snow again and you're
1:00:20
like oh okay well it's hawaii so I
1:00:22
don't really know what I could it's but
1:00:24
the rents these diaper men again and the
1:00:26
so if you see if is that they
1:00:29
get up at the diapers and they go
1:00:31
about top of the hospital to tear the
1:00:33
diapers open. Because they realize that the flop
1:00:35
inside the diapers would like to know
1:00:37
speak to see where this man says
1:00:39
goodbye to his wife as he passes
1:00:41
away peacefully looking out the window. It's
1:00:43
Dell added you cut through the roof
1:00:45
with didn't see it puts a diaper
1:00:47
meds three their diaper fluff around like
1:00:49
we're doing a big important thing tonight.
1:00:51
It's so fucking god it's Zelda such
1:00:53
a permit any a little A said
1:00:55
yeah of this like of the vibe
1:00:57
in tone of this game. My god
1:00:59
that yeah that but for me it
1:01:01
was I'm Gollum Gun Wolf the ukulele
1:01:03
player. Who. Yeah, I'm Ah
1:01:06
is of it's current
1:01:08
ukulele player former experimental
1:01:10
heavy metal environmentalists. Who
1:01:13
learns? Had a been out the both
1:01:16
types of musicians and I also ah
1:01:18
Sakara. The. Yeah, that dude who
1:01:20
just loves to fight. And
1:01:22
ah, hate states you tube or
1:01:24
culture. Great. Very reliable
1:01:27
yes I I. I feel like
1:01:29
they took screenshots of every single
1:01:31
thing he said. Yep, Pay.
1:01:34
My. Name. Is what a fucking game?
1:01:37
On at so we get an honorable
1:01:39
mentions. Jealous to it. Yeah.
1:01:42
I'm. I'm gonna give the hard
1:01:44
sell for see if these again. the crack of
1:01:46
for it does get back into a day
1:01:48
to ah. Released. A new see
1:01:50
a Season Eleven I believe like a month or
1:01:52
so ago, a new seasons coming out soon. Season
1:01:54
Eleven. Ah, the amount of this was included in
1:01:57
that of last season, but there's new mode called
1:01:59
say for Sees. That. Where you get
1:02:01
like reduced rewards but it disables the
1:02:03
Pdp element of this game on which
1:02:05
I think will be appealing for a
1:02:07
lot of people who like think see
1:02:09
if these and don't like getting fucking
1:02:11
jumped. By. Sweaty.
1:02:14
Try hards who then like negate all of
1:02:16
the worth it they just did over the
1:02:19
last hour and a half. ah I'm they
1:02:21
have also made it so that ah we
1:02:23
started the game. You hop in your ship
1:02:25
and you can launch any like voyage request
1:02:27
or mission or whatever from the little quest
1:02:29
table in your ship. You want to run
1:02:31
around the island for a while like a
1:02:34
hunting for the right job that you pick
1:02:36
from a really small less like it's all
1:02:38
right there in your ship waiting for you
1:02:40
ready to go and then you can also
1:02:42
fast travel basically. To the start
1:02:44
of that. Voyage which basically
1:02:46
cuts that kind of like time.
1:02:50
Required for each of these a each
1:02:52
of the like different sort of missions
1:02:54
of this game in in half. Ah
1:02:56
and I have been having a fucking
1:02:59
great time playing this game either. So
1:03:01
Dina solo sleep in it up our
1:03:03
our with haven't played with a buddy
1:03:06
last night and ah this this game
1:03:08
just kicks ass and is so much
1:03:10
wanna play and they continue to kind
1:03:13
of sand the rough edges off of
1:03:15
it. I am shocked at how much
1:03:17
I'm not mans that slabs of from
1:03:19
Microsoft. First party slate I think is
1:03:22
really been seen seizes gain right? There's
1:03:24
this one thing that's work. guess I
1:03:26
don't know. Do we keep investing in
1:03:28
Sea of thieves? It sounds crazy, but
1:03:30
know what else? The halo we met.
1:03:34
The yeah ah I encourage you again
1:03:36
insect back dame out If you have
1:03:38
not played it it is. It is
1:03:40
such a fun weird. Exciting.
1:03:44
Game. Or yeah
1:03:46
I have a a a cool
1:03:48
so the my family's and watching
1:03:50
on that does the plus. Is
1:03:53
called renegade now isn't heard of it. Yes,
1:03:56
See that they have a daddy. Advertising
1:04:00
at a time they have not
1:04:02
provided us with of the ballot.
1:04:04
Renegade Now Analysis Congruent Renegade Now
1:04:07
It is a show about a
1:04:09
woman in the eighteenth century England
1:04:11
who sort of accidentally becomes a
1:04:13
high Women are highly robber. Ah,
1:04:16
And is the interesting thing about now
1:04:18
who is a widow? Is.
1:04:20
That she is. Joined
1:04:24
by a ferry. That.
1:04:26
Can inhabit her, her body
1:04:28
and give her superhuman. Strength.
1:04:31
And speed base like superpowers.
1:04:34
Said it is very that is
1:04:36
appears and is helping now. Ah,
1:04:39
Who doesn't know why they are? They are. They
1:04:41
only know that they have to protect Now. Ah,
1:04:44
and now basically becomes accidentally a
1:04:47
highway robber. Ah, Who becomes
1:04:49
wanted for murder? A murder that
1:04:51
she didn't commit. As. He basically
1:04:53
has a turn the entire town on
1:04:55
against her and there's other magic forces
1:04:57
trying to get at her and it's
1:04:59
all set against it. The the Jacobite
1:05:02
Rebellion I would soar. the backdrop of
1:05:04
the whole thinks there's like there is
1:05:06
a historical. Ah, Element to this.
1:05:08
Oh, it's like I was a loosely historical. Ah,
1:05:11
Louisa Harland is the is the
1:05:13
lead in the show abolishes in
1:05:15
Derry Girls. Ah, with
1:05:17
was her either. Big credit, but
1:05:19
it's like it's just like really
1:05:21
exciting. Like. Fun! Adventure
1:05:24
that isn't like. too gruesome for
1:05:26
for kids to watch. The fight
1:05:28
scenes are like so well choreographed.
1:05:30
You watch a trailer you can
1:05:32
see so the ah. Now.
1:05:35
Beating Up ah the the Bad Guys
1:05:37
and a C eventually become sort of
1:05:39
a robin hood type figure. I'm. But.
1:05:42
It's really fun, exciting, cool. Called
1:05:44
Renegade now on December. I.
1:05:46
Started watching Survivor. Yeah yeah, baby
1:05:49
did it. I did it. even
1:05:51
pulled me back on. I'm an
1:05:53
ad for the online Hi. Imagine
1:05:55
how you feel and crisp why
1:05:58
I'm feeling good. Anyone alive. I
1:06:01
have been out from probably I don't
1:06:03
know. five or six years you have.
1:06:05
Any man wants the new era, new
1:06:07
era I know and. They
1:06:09
keep sailings. I don't know what they
1:06:11
mean. They're like I got a last
1:06:13
ditch shot or something. None like sure
1:06:16
yeah my dark baby. Okay
1:06:18
so saw the dark Chris Foy it is
1:06:20
it's they're all souls for problems with the
1:06:22
Met a game and that are hysterical. The
1:06:24
saw the dog is. At. The
1:06:26
at the of though, you can
1:06:29
sacrifice your vote. For. A
1:06:31
one in six hands of at immunity
1:06:33
as it. And you know we don't know
1:06:35
in our per season. Yes, So.
1:06:39
Ah, ok okay. That's.
1:06:41
That's clever, yet there's I am
1:06:43
impressed by how they both seem
1:06:45
to have made the game. I'm
1:06:47
more humane and terms of things
1:06:49
that they're providing the people ah
1:06:51
up front and yet not where
1:06:53
they are sense away from be
1:06:56
worth my time is for a
1:06:58
month yeah it is. it is.
1:07:00
It's is a while Dame Arm
1:07:02
I am. Four episodes and
1:07:04
and one of the most annoying players
1:07:06
I've ever watched as now been voted
1:07:08
off. So grateful for that. Their
1:07:12
surnames nirvana be yes. Yes,
1:07:14
Yeah, Ok, cool. yeah for sure.
1:07:17
I ah about holy moly. I
1:07:19
mean this. They. Know
1:07:21
how to make reality tv show
1:07:23
really? Survivor also just continues to
1:07:25
be very be ready to look
1:07:27
at like out potter happy of
1:07:29
a Survivor is just legit great.
1:07:31
Ah what a show that they're
1:07:33
all maniacs. I mean this they
1:07:35
did. it feels like they're They're
1:07:37
dry and have run a marathon
1:07:40
at the speed of a sprint
1:07:42
by is correct. Good luck to
1:07:44
him I said Wednesday Rico's. Oh.
1:07:47
And you guys are great and you're there for listening!
1:07:49
Thank. You so much for joining us! Chris
1:07:52
when the remember the games or discuss. How
1:07:56
bursts So the great thing is people
1:07:58
to go to best use.fan. Athena.
1:08:00
Full list of games because we discussed
1:08:02
at times but we have talked about
1:08:05
like a dragon, infinite wealth and other
1:08:07
stuff. yeah now that easily and all
1:08:09
their I want to thanks of the
1:08:11
Folly Patrons Studious in L Thousand Autumn's.
1:08:14
Cuckoo Bear. Generics.
1:08:17
See though. Next. Week.
1:08:21
We. Don't know. We don't know. Ah,
1:08:23
we don't know, but we do
1:08:26
know that by the time you're
1:08:28
hearing this, there is a new
1:08:30
episode up on The Patriarch of
1:08:32
the Rest Is that is digging
1:08:34
into some overlooked indie games that
1:08:36
include Ah Children of the Sun
1:08:39
and Ah Silva Deck Which have
1:08:41
I told you all about Silva
1:08:43
Deck? Nope. Oh shit
1:08:45
I'm okay. Very credits Silva that
1:08:47
it is on Steam. I it's
1:08:50
description on Steam is in Silva
1:08:52
Deck at the Rpg Certain fifteenth
1:08:54
century Slovakia you embrace the role
1:08:56
of an alcoholic night Pavel meet
1:08:58
diverse an interesting shit our characters
1:09:01
to help you drive out the
1:09:03
hussite and Ottomans who blithely. It
1:09:06
looks like seriously believe this you one
1:09:08
day night rare I can't wait to
1:09:10
place. To Haitian
1:09:13
that you. Oh my gosh, this
1:09:15
game or is it. It
1:09:17
it's. So good I'm we're we're
1:09:19
home and shove weird stuff over
1:09:21
on the page shiny to check
1:09:23
that out and got a new
1:09:26
best is Bracket coming up soon?
1:09:28
Ah and yeah patriarch.com/the best these
1:09:30
the is the address that so
1:09:32
you can join are putting him
1:09:34
on road assets in an epithet
1:09:36
be served goes again This. Is
1:09:40
the world's as yeah? That
1:10:11
please.
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