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Good news guys. It's

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been a while started in the mid 80s,

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but it's it's been working its way

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through the courts But my trademark finally came in so

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you don't need to worry anymore Things are gonna be great

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and I'm gonna bring you guys with me. Don't worry So

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I'm so excited to find out what joke you're about

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to make I've

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been working a while and

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and more. Yeah. Okay Griffin. Did you think

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the next? Thing out

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of his mouth was gonna be more pedaling up. No,

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no I

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thought he had realized how big of a ramp he

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had made and I did not expect him to lay

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a few more bricks On there. No, I'm stoked though

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You know for a while. It's been like something

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that I've been trying to do That

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it was gonna happen at times but eventually Alex

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and Trademark finally came in

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now a lot of people might know Jesus Christ

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for us righty-tighty

1:02

But what they might not know is that

1:04

there's a second part of it yeah back

1:06

in the mid 80s All anyone was really

1:08

saying was righty-tighty But

1:11

I came in and was like

1:13

what if there could be a little bit more? Yeah

1:17

That's cool and and my phrase

1:20

You've probably heard of it at this point because I think it's

1:22

reached the site guys is lefty Lucy.

1:24

Yeah Okay, that was you you

1:26

know, you did lefty Lucy. Yeah around the mid

1:28

80s or in 86 87 I

1:31

can see and can I say actually I thought this

1:33

story was gonna be made up But

1:36

I could see people in the mid 80s

1:38

be like hey righty-tighty and then

1:40

Russ dips in behind It's like lefty

1:42

Lucy like well we knew but there's

1:44

only the other way. That's right I

1:46

don't think we needed lefty. We didn't

1:48

need lefty Lucy and yet there's a

1:50

reason why it reached this level of

1:53

general knowledge and and reached

1:55

the zeitgeist in such a powerful way and I

1:57

think the person that originated it should

2:00

see some of that, should

2:02

benefit in some way. And that's you. And that's

2:04

me. If you came up with Lefty Lucy. And

2:06

when I came up with Lefty Lucy, yes. Okay.

2:09

Okay. So really all I need from everyone,

2:11

first of all, if you say Lefty

2:13

Lucy, please follow it with TM. That's

2:16

so crazy. Pretty reasonable. Anyone can do that.

2:18

Secondly, just, I think we worked it out,

2:20

it was like three and a half cents

2:22

per usage. So you could just like, you

2:24

can bundle that you don't need to send

2:26

individual checks for each time. Wait until you've

2:28

done a few. Annually, do it annually. December

2:30

15th is like a good time to kind

2:32

of do it. Just make sure it's a

2:35

calendar because we're not doing fiscal. Russ's

2:37

birthday is good. That's fine. Yeah,

2:40

thank you. And just a

2:42

huge thanks. I heard from them Russ,

2:45

the drag community wanted me to thank

2:47

you for giving them a really powerful name

2:49

in Lefty Lucy that just a lot of

2:51

them were able to use. Yeah, no, certainly.

2:53

Do they owe you money or? Incredibly, an

2:56

enormous amount of money. Ah man,

2:58

I wish we'd been recording all this. Shoot, why

3:00

don't we put stuff like this in the show?

3:03

People would like, you worked hard on that. And

3:05

now no one's here again. Great.

3:27

My name is Justin McElroy and I

3:29

know the best game of the

3:31

week. A foul tardest made endless

3:33

without lying. I'm Griffin

3:36

McElroy tardest. Oh,

3:38

I know the best game of the week too. My name

3:40

is Russ Frustich. Hi Tarnish. This

3:43

week we're gonna be talking about Elden Ring, Shadow

3:45

of the Ard Tree. But

3:48

what's that Griffin? That's the new

3:50

DLC for Elden Ring and it's

3:52

the size approximately of one Elden

3:55

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3:57

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3:59

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is a lot of those are so random, or

16:02

they feel random. There's dudes running around

16:05

with pots on their heads, and if

16:07

you hit those dudes, you get this

16:09

essential item that you need to level

16:11

up. Why? I thought they

16:13

were all at the markers. No.

16:16

There's 50 of them scattered across the floor. This

16:18

is what's in fear. I didn't know

16:20

that. Right, so not to spoiler whatever,

16:23

but yet again, it's like if

16:26

you want to do this, you gotta have a

16:28

guide in your other hand. If

16:30

you want to play through this in a

16:32

reasonable amount of time that isn't hundreds of

16:34

rust rustic hours, like scouring every inch,

16:36

like again, it's got to be like, okay, you go

16:38

over this hill, and then it starts to feel so

16:41

mechanical. And what

16:43

I miss is that

16:45

fun arc of getting those

16:48

little things that are making me incrementally more

16:50

powerful and survivable, and

16:53

like having to cobble together a build because

16:55

I don't have the stuff that I need

16:57

exactly, and gaining all

16:59

these things that really are upgrades for

17:01

me. And so none of the carrots

17:03

were there, and even like playing

17:05

through the bosses, when I beat a boss, it didn't

17:07

matter. Like I don't, it didn't

17:10

really have an effect. That's the biggest issue.

17:12

That feels really bad. I think the like

17:14

shadow blessing system where it's like everything

17:17

scales just in the DLC area is

17:19

a really elegant system executed

17:21

kind of inelegantly because what

17:25

Justin said is absolutely right. Like these

17:28

Scatatree fragments are everywhere,

17:31

and they are not

17:33

like easily trackable, right? It's not

17:36

easy. You don't have like Scatatree

17:38

fragment radar. What they are

17:40

kind of doing here is what happened in

17:42

Sekiro, which in Sekiro, like after you beat

17:44

certain bosses, you would get a permanent upgrade

17:47

to your strength with like the item that

17:49

they dropped, right? Or as

17:51

you beat many bosses, they dropped those little things

17:53

that gave you extra flask charges or whatever. And

17:55

that's what I thought they were gonna do with

17:58

it when they were talking about it. I thought

18:00

it was gonna be tied to bosses. Yes, and

18:02

so instead like they've tied progression explicitly

18:05

to exploration which I like

18:07

but I also think I

18:10

don't know there is there are other ways of

18:12

doing that that are That

18:14

are a bit easier to kind of just

18:17

like do on a just

18:19

a blind playthrough You almost think that it

18:21

should have been at the end of any

18:23

like mini dungeon like a little like Side

18:25

dungeon that maybe takes you 20 30

18:28

minutes. Yeah, you're guaranteed the thing rather

18:31

than hiding the things Just

18:33

it would be like if in breath of the

18:35

wild and tears of the kingdom Like instead of

18:37

having like the upgrade items in these incredibly clearly

18:40

visible little puzzle Dungeons that you do they're just

18:42

like there's a guy with a fucking pot in

18:44

a cave that you have to like track track

18:46

down Yeah, I don't want to I think

18:49

it will dominate probably the rest of the

18:51

conversation if we focus too much I think

18:53

that is these are all like totally legit

18:57

Issues that again I didn't run into just because

18:59

of my play style But I do appreciate that

19:02

people that really it broke the motivation loop for

19:04

yeah I was really I was struggling to keep

19:06

up that said the the part

19:08

the the things that I did explore While

19:11

I was in it and I got through a

19:13

good chunk of a lot of boss Well, I don't know

19:16

prospect like how much of the

19:18

elephant I ate did you go through like

19:20

castle Enos? Which is like a you did

19:22

okay? Yes, that feels like there's like there's

19:24

one big legacy dungeon at the beginning with

19:28

There's like a drag Oh dragon

19:30

dancer fight. Yeah, I

19:32

imagine you probably did that juice yes,

19:35

and then there's the castle Enos, which is

19:37

like Sort of a

19:39

big fight that opens like once you get

19:41

through that area It opens

19:44

the map enormously like you can really go

19:46

way more places Yeah, and I

19:48

found that once I got to that point

19:52

It was very clear to me. It's like

19:54

hey the next big place is like right

19:56

in front It was a giant fucking castle

19:58

right there, and I was like nope and

20:00

I went and I just ran everywhere. I

20:03

was going south, I was following rivers, I

20:05

was listening to

20:07

a ghost who was like, I used

20:09

to go in a coffin to slide

20:11

down here to a purple land of

20:13

majesty, and I was having

20:15

so much fucking fun doing that. And

20:19

yeah, I mean, again, I understand

20:22

the frustration, but Elden

20:25

Ring has always been that for me. It's

20:27

never been the bosses. Progressing bosses has always

20:29

been the low points for me because it

20:31

always felt like either a

20:33

skill check or a stat check, whereas

20:36

exploration was always in my control. And

20:38

I think this game does the

20:40

exploration part of it very, very

20:42

well and is, there's some

20:44

areas in this game that like fucking crush

20:46

anything that was in the air. So fucking

20:49

cool. So fucking cool. Amazing. Did

20:52

you guys go up the mountain, by the way? Yes,

20:54

yes, there's a very shitty mountain with a very shitty

20:56

mean guy on top of it. He sucks the worst.

21:00

I really like the bosses, actually. I'm a huge

21:02

fan of the bosses because it forced me for

21:04

the first time. I was getting really frustrated. There

21:07

is a fiery

21:10

guy with a spear

21:12

who sucks shit. He's so mean. He's such a

21:14

mean asshole. Yeah, he is a mean asshole. He's

21:16

a mean asshole. And I just kept getting my

21:18

ass just kicked by him over and over again.

21:20

So I ran around, I got a little bit

21:22

stronger. I come back, still got my ass kicked.

21:25

I was like, you know what? I'm gonna go online. I'm gonna

21:27

summon some other players. And so

21:29

I would do that. I did that with a few

21:31

bosses, and it never worked for me because it scales

21:33

the enemy also. Like

21:35

as you bring in other real players, it

21:37

scales the enemy's HP and the strength which

21:39

they hit. I never beat any bosses with

21:41

help from other people because I found that

21:43

they were just as clueless as I was.

21:45

And now the boss has three times as

21:47

much health. And so for

21:49

the first time in, honestly, forever,

21:52

because when I played Elden Ring the first time, I

21:55

had the same infinite mana death ray build. I was

21:57

just like, this boss too hard. Boop, dead. three

40:00

years maybe. I mean, I say

40:02

that and soaks on and still a nod out. Yeah,

40:04

they have more people than that. Um,

40:06

I'd be really fascinated to see what they could

40:08

do in the two. I just, I fully disagree.

40:10

There is nothing when you, when you load into

40:12

this new shit and you wonder some

40:15

of the vistas that you

40:17

see in this game is like no one does. No

40:19

one does it like that. You want, what do you

40:21

want those people to do while they're making this to

40:23

just have a side team? That's where like the team

40:25

that worked on fucking Dave the diver have, have 15

40:28

people in a room. So your big plan for what

40:31

FromSoft should do next is make another smaller FromSoft

40:34

inside of its belly. Yeah. To make your two.

40:36

I'm pretty sure that already exists because we got

40:39

armored core last year. Uh, Oh yeah,

40:41

their office isn't even near the other guys. They

40:45

don't even know how to find the armored

40:47

core guys. I would just be curious to

40:49

see what they could do with like a

40:51

smaller project because otherwise we're waiting another fucking

40:53

10 years for Elton ring too. I don't

40:55

think we're going to be waiting that long

40:57

for whatever it is. I, I, from FromSoft

40:59

is I think pound for pound right up

41:01

there with like in my mind, Nintendo with

41:03

just the best game developers. Like you look

41:05

at the hit rate. It's a hundred percent

41:07

like everything they make is fucking baller. And

41:09

so like I, and these games are some

41:11

of my favorite video games ever. So I

41:13

just kind of want them to, I don't,

41:15

don't change a thing guys. You're fucking crushing

41:18

it. Uh, I do not feel qualified. Keep

41:20

those somber stones where they are. Well, maybe

41:22

change some of the, the bad stuff. Maybe

41:25

I think that the dream for me would

41:27

be something that takes like, that

41:30

would be a more multiplayer experience

41:32

that takes classes seriously where like

41:35

you could just be a, like being

41:37

able to have a team composition and

41:39

then going into a dungeon that like

41:41

scales would be so cool.

41:43

Like going in with like people actually

41:45

like simulating the thrill of having

41:48

someone else in there with you fighting the

41:50

bosses. But like it being not

41:53

having this weird abstraction

41:55

of the ghosts there. So, so

41:57

good news, Justin, there's

41:59

a mod. called seamless

42:01

multiplayer and

42:04

it basically allows you to do all of

42:06

that stuff without the nonsense of like you

42:08

just beat a boss so they're gonna get

42:10

unsummoned for no reason. So

42:12

if you want to mess with that you counter

42:15

argument to what FromSoft

42:17

should do next. I thought a

42:19

counter-army of unpaid nerds is actually

42:21

already kind of doing it badly.

42:23

Just saying for you, it

42:26

might bring you joy to know that this option

42:28

exists. But part of this last hour makes you

42:30

think that I want to be a dirty dog

42:32

rolling around in the numbers dirt with the Elvin

42:34

Ring perverts. I want

42:37

them digging through the dirt for truffles

42:39

and then they find the truffles and

42:42

they bring them to me. That's how

42:44

I want this. Or I'm over here

42:46

pitching AI stealing these dudes

42:48

jobs. You know what I mean?

42:50

I want AI to put them out of business.

42:52

I'm not gonna go in there. Oh, have

42:55

you smelled it in the Elvin Ring

42:57

room? No way, I'm not going in. Russ?

43:00

I really like my favorite thing about Bloodborne is

43:02

I mean the whole shit, the whole aesthetic and

43:04

everything. But the Chalice

43:06

Dungeons system was so fucking

43:08

cool. It was just like, yeah, you make a

43:11

randomized dungeon and then you can go explore it

43:13

like with multiplayer and it's not a big deal.

43:16

Having a repeatable, farmable sort of thing like

43:18

that, I really, really enjoyed it. And it's

43:20

something they have not fucked with a little

43:23

bit since that game came out. There's so

43:25

many good ideas across so many of their

43:27

games, right? And it feels like I think

43:29

Elvin Ring to its merit does

43:32

do a lot of this, of taking a lot

43:34

of this stuff from other games that has worked

43:36

and incorporating it. I think

43:38

that they have come up with even

43:40

more and better ideas since Elden Ring

43:42

came out and we're ready for another

43:44

experiment. Do

43:50

we want to guess, to close this segment out, do we want

43:52

to guess when Elden Ring 2 actually will...

43:55

I don't think Elden Ring 2 is the next thing. I

43:57

agree with that. I think... It

44:00

is outrageous that a Bloodborne re-release hasn't

44:03

happened yet. It feels, I mean...

44:05

I mean, it is tied up in

44:07

corporate issues with Sony and the previous

44:09

studio that doesn't exist anymore. That's

44:12

why it hasn't happened, is my understanding. So

44:14

there's... It's not for lack of interest.

44:16

I'm just saying, look at their history, right? Like,

44:19

we've gotten a Dark Souls 1 and 2 remaster.

44:22

We've... I feel...

44:24

We got a Demon Souls remake from,

44:26

obviously, from another studio. Like, it feels

44:29

outrageous that there has not been this... Yeah, the

44:31

demand is there, I think, as a studio they

44:34

wanted. It's just... I really hope they don't do

44:36

another Elden Ring. Really?

44:38

Yeah, I just... I

44:40

really would love to see them

44:42

challenge themselves with a world that

44:45

is just a little bit more cogent and

44:47

less like... That was part of my issue

44:50

with this DLC, is it just started to

44:52

feel like, more, more,

44:54

more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more,

44:56

more, and I lost a sense... Like, I

44:58

don't have any idea of, like, the story

45:00

of the world or what's happening in it.

45:02

Oh, man, we didn't even talk about that.

45:04

I heard of... Just by intent. Well, you

45:06

see, kindly, Mikala has charmed us all with

45:08

his great rune. There's

45:11

stuff that happens in, like, weird dialogue pop-ups

45:13

in this game that I'm like, that feels

45:15

important. I don't know why it's just popping

45:17

up in a text box at the bottom

45:19

of the screen. But I

45:21

would love to see them take narrative a bit

45:24

more, like, challenge themselves with a bit more concrete

45:26

narrative. I mean, have they... Here's the question. Have

45:29

they ever? And I asked that by saying,

45:31

have you ever played through a FromSoft game

45:33

without reading stuff online or watching YouTube videos

45:35

and known what the fuck was going on?

45:37

Sekiro. Sekiro. Yeah,

45:40

Sekiro. But here's the other thing I'll say

45:42

is because they're not meant to be that,

45:44

right? They're meant to be these experiential worlds,

45:47

right? Sure. So I don't want to experience

45:49

this world again. I want

45:51

them to make a new, like... And I don't

45:53

want to go to Bloodborne World again. Make a

45:55

new world. Make a spacey one for me to

45:57

play with. I would desperately want to go back

45:59

to Bloodborne World. Justin does not represent all of

46:01

our views here. Bloodborne World is the one I

46:03

would most like to go to because it's the

46:05

coolest aesthetic. Elden Ring is

46:08

like, the aesthetic is

46:10

like, dark souls

46:13

like tried to clean up because their mom came

46:15

over. Sorry

46:18

guys, you can't just put angels in it

46:20

and pretend. I always like

46:22

the Elden Ring aesthetic when like you turn a

46:24

corner and there's just alien, like alien shit and

46:26

like fingers coming out of the ceiling and it's

46:28

like, whoa, what's going on? But I feel like

46:30

again, Bloodborne did that stuff way better. They did.

46:33

Way better. With coats,

46:35

with long coats. With long, cool coats and

46:37

yeah. We have a

46:39

few reader mail things to talk

46:41

about, mostly from the Nintendo discussion

46:43

last week. But before we do

46:45

that, we have a letter. This

46:47

comes from Bastode. Listening

46:49

to you guys talk about Destiny feels like you're talking about a

46:51

game that was made up for an episode of CSI. Not

46:55

a question, just wanted to say this extremely

46:57

good joke. That's fair. Russ and

46:59

I played some Destiny last night, had

47:01

a great fucking time. Did that dual

47:03

Destiny mission, that two player mission is

47:05

the best stuff that that game has

47:07

to offer, man. Incredibly good. I think

47:09

it is my last hurrah for Destiny.

47:11

I do not necessarily have a drive

47:13

to keep playing and mastering my build

47:15

for a game that is essentially like

47:17

gonna be pretty much dead, but

47:20

it was a blast and it was a great ending.

47:22

Great send off. It was fun playing Destiny with someone

47:24

who was like, man, I'm gonna miss this.

47:27

I wanna miss these guys. It's

47:29

a reminder, that mission

47:31

in particular, which I know a lot of

47:33

people will probably never ever play, but maybe

47:36

watch a video of it. It's a reminder

47:38

that there's so much great stuff in Destiny

47:40

that is locked behind things like Raids, where

47:42

you have to spend fucking six hours throwing

47:45

yourself at it with a bunch of people, that

47:48

really they need to move into the main

47:50

game. And I think this is a good

47:52

example of that. Also the final mission where

47:54

you finish off the witness is

47:57

a great example of that, of recreating. like

48:00

panache and spectacle of like raid destiny

48:03

in a game that most people can

48:05

actually access. Right. Yeah. So Bravo for

48:07

them in doing that and goodbye to

48:09

destiny forever. Not for me. I'm still

48:11

playing it. We

48:14

have another letter. This comes from Jakey. Rest

48:16

in peace. Alpha Dream. This is in

48:19

reference to the Maryland games. I feel

48:21

people are insufficiently suspicious of whether or

48:23

not the magic of their Marion, Luigi

48:25

games can be replicated by another studio.

48:27

Those games are special. I

48:30

agree. Yeah. I do know there were a

48:32

number of people, we don't know how many,

48:34

but a number of people that were in

48:37

the previous Marion, Luigi studio, Alpha Dream that

48:39

got shuttered that went on to get jobs

48:41

in Nintendo proper. And I imagine some of

48:43

those are working on Marion, Luigi. I think

48:46

it's tough because it's a lot of that is writing.

48:49

And so like you need to make sure that

48:51

like you have good writing people on your team.

48:53

Yeah. And Nintendo, not necessarily

48:55

known as like a writing place, but

48:59

their RPGs, I think tend to be

49:01

written quite well. So for me, Nintendo's

49:03

earned the fact

49:05

that they're good stewards of these things. I

49:08

like to think with a lot of the most

49:10

of the brands. I mean,

49:12

this one is touchy, right? Like this

49:14

is the touchy one, because the Mario

49:16

RPG sort of sub

49:19

genre has really

49:21

fucking fallen off, right? It's since

49:23

since since the like Wii

49:25

era, it was a dry spell there

49:28

of the games coming out, not being

49:30

I mean, the last three Paper Mario

49:32

games were not good games. I just

49:34

figured out outgrown them. And that's why

49:36

I wasn't playing them. No, they there

49:39

was there's more to it than that.

49:41

I just didn't delight me anymore. I felt like

49:43

no, my heart, my heart would come too hard.

49:46

And Jonah was asking

49:48

why we didn't mention Mario Party. Because

49:51

we don't give a shit. Yeah,

49:53

I just can't. I don't know what environment I

49:55

would have to be in to play a Mario

49:57

Party and have a good time again. I

50:00

guess in a party. I could play a

50:02

Mario Party with her and my kids and that's gonna be

50:04

a passer-oo. Exactly. Yeah. No

50:07

way. Because it'd be miserable? Yeah. It

50:10

would be that like you can't... The

50:12

idea of inviting Mario to my home to

50:15

make my kids compete makes me want to

50:17

strangle it. Just think about him. And

50:19

he's one of my best digital friends. Yeah. And

50:21

the idea that he would come to my home and be like, she's the

50:23

better at goal cards than he is. Like it's

50:25

wild. I don't need that. The first

50:28

time that I would land on a

50:30

space that made Bowser come and eat

50:32

all my kids' stars would... Fucking... Not

50:34

a joke. I'm getting heart computations. Just

50:36

you saying it. That

50:38

would lead to a

50:41

thermonuclear devastation, cataclysmic

50:43

event in my house that would like...

50:46

It would be a big deal. We would be talking

50:48

about that for a long, long time. So like, no

50:51

thank you. The larger problem is that you

50:53

made it very easy for the internet to

50:55

edit you saying, the first time I landed

50:57

on a space to make Bowser come. That's

51:00

just going to happen now. There

51:03

is a... Yeah. Some

51:05

of the boards when you land on those green

51:07

exclamation points, it makes Bowser come. And

51:09

then you win? Which

51:12

I think is fucked up. Like I don't think

51:14

I should... I don't think making Bowser come should

51:16

be a win condition. Oh

51:20

boy. I

51:23

have not been playing fucking anything else. It's

51:26

outrageous to even think that that would

51:28

be a possibility with Elden Ring. Yeah

51:30

I would echo that. Didn't you watch

51:32

any movies on planes? Did you watch

51:34

any TV? I've been watching the new

51:36

season of The Boys. It's

51:39

still basically the same shit.

51:42

It's got nasty, nasty folks doing really nasty

51:44

stuff. It's a really weird show, man. It just

51:46

keeps getting nastier. I don't know that there's a

51:48

point to it. It's just like nasty shit. I

51:50

don't know why. I do still... I

51:53

don't know why I watch it. I'm myself compelled

51:55

to watch it, even though I watch it. I'm

51:57

like, that's fucking gross, dog. satire

52:00

is pretty pointed for a show that

52:02

is as widely watched as the Boys

52:04

is. Yes, and the characters

52:06

are all great. It is a really

52:09

well-made show. It's just like, I

52:11

don't watch anything else remotely

52:14

like it. There's also a

52:16

fascinating Fight Club effect with

52:18

the sort of main antagonist,

52:20

Homelander, who is like very

52:23

much the sort of Trump stand-in, you

52:25

know, Uber, Uber

52:28

mensch-like type guy.

52:30

And there's people who like the Boys who

52:32

don't realize that the Boys is ragging on

52:34

them. And the Boys

52:36

is making it increasingly obvious.

52:39

And it's still not clicking for some

52:41

people. Yeah,

52:43

I've not really. I watched Fever

52:45

Pitch with Colin Firth. That's

52:48

where we're at. You

52:50

watched, you watched, uh... The

52:53

original Fever Pitch was a soccer movie.

52:55

It was not a baseball movie with

52:57

Colin Firth written by Nick Hornby. It

53:01

was, uh... That's so confusing. Yeah.

53:04

Because there was also a Jimmy Fallon movie.

53:07

Yeah, that was the remake. That was the American

53:09

remake where they made it about baseball. What's cool

53:11

is that when you're playing soccer, you play on

53:13

a pitch. But in baseball, you pitch the ball,

53:15

so they didn't need to change the title. That's

53:18

cool, man. I like that. That's about the only thing cool

53:20

about that movie. Great. Great. Fantastic.

53:22

I think we did it. Watched

53:24

all that jazz on

53:28

the flight. Bob Fosse,

53:30

all that jazz? Yeah. It

53:32

was amazing. Did that invent jazz

53:34

hands? Was that the first time? No.

53:37

I mean, Fosse is very much connected to some

53:39

of the traditions that you're talking about there. But

53:41

I never watched any of his movies, man. All that

53:43

jazz. It's his life. It's a movie made

53:46

by someone who had just about

53:48

himself starring

53:50

Roy Scheiner about himself dying. Rob

53:52

Schneider? No. He's

53:55

in it? No, he's not

53:57

Roy Schneider. He's playing Bob Fosse

53:59

standing. called Joseph Gideon and

54:01

Bob Fosse had just had a heart attack and

54:05

that was caused by his work and his stress and

54:07

it almost killed him. So he made a

54:09

movie about what if the exact same thing happened to

54:11

the guy but it did kill him and

54:13

the movie is about him dying. And it's got

54:17

incredible dance scenes and ends

54:19

with him and Ben Vereen just singing their frigging

54:21

hearts out. And it's amazing. Cool. If

54:23

I go, that's how I want it. You guys, you

54:26

can't watch it anywhere. It's on archive.org. You

54:28

can just look for it there and watch it

54:30

there for free. Go

54:32

for it. Hey, Russ,

54:34

will you thank all the nice folks who have

54:36

been supporting us on Patreon? Yeah, real quick, I'm

54:39

just going to recap the games we discussed. Elden

54:41

Ring, Shadow of the Urd Tree, Destiny 2, The

54:44

Final Shape, we

54:46

also talked about the boys, Fever Pitch, all

54:48

that jazz. Thank

54:51

you to the following patrons on

54:53

the Patreon, which is at

54:55

patreon.com/the besties, Annie

54:58

the Feywild Therapist, Truth

55:00

in Motion Studios, Soaring

55:02

Chris, and Logan McElroy.

55:05

What? Do we know who that is? Is

55:07

that a friend of the family? That's so

55:09

rude, man. I don't ask you if you

55:11

are related to everyone that says Mario wrong.

55:16

Cool. Well, yeah, listen to the Patreon

55:18

episodes. We have a new episode of

55:21

Resties. We've got a new bracket

55:23

episode coming at you next week. So

55:25

keep an eye out for that. And

55:28

we're also going to be voting on what the next series

55:30

of bracket episodes are going to be. So keep an eye

55:32

on the Patreon. We got a good batch. We just brainstormed

55:35

them. They're going to be good. We got some good stuff

55:37

coming. What are we doing next week? Well,

55:40

next week, Russ are going to be talking about Luigi's

55:43

incredible scary adventure, Luigi's Mansion

55:45

2 HD. That's

55:48

right. The definitions are higher than ever with

55:50

this little nobody. And he is busting, because

55:52

it makes it feel real good, but not

55:54

as good as it would if his brother

55:56

Mario died. That's

55:58

his fondest dream. That's all I want. I'll talk about

56:00

that. He's too chicken shit to do it But

56:03

he like he's psyching himself up

56:05

one day to do it with the the blast

56:07

every time you go be like He's sucking up

56:09

a ghost Mario comes into the room.

56:11

Yes Luigi invited him in and he turns in

56:13

the last second like and sucks him right into

56:16

the blaster Yeah, no my brother. I guess

56:18

I'm in charge. No That's

56:21

your little you It's

56:24

my Luigi that I'm Luigi Okay,

56:26

that's a ghost I'll be sure to do

56:28

it again next week for the besties because

56:30

in the world best friends pick the world's best game

56:55

Besties