0:00

In my fridge, there's there's some ice

0:02

cubes. I guess my freezer. There are

0:04

ice cubes that pre day covid. Are

0:07

those of any value or can I get rid of them? They

0:11

will have a smell. There is a

0:13

smell. I am freezing isn't free. There's going

0:15

to be a smell of those ice cubes.

0:18

But I'm wondering, like more from like a

0:20

like a curing the world standpoint. Is there

0:22

anything that could be locked in there from

0:24

the days before? Here is

0:26

a suggestion is that all water

0:28

has been radiated. In some way

0:31

with covid air impact, I don't want to say.

0:33

We're just sure. And

0:36

that that the only water that might

0:38

remain valuable is like the polar ice

0:40

caps. Whatever like wooly mammoths

0:42

are kept in your

0:45

ice cubes. Why are

0:47

we so worried about the ice caps

0:49

when everybody owns an ice maker? Like

0:51

we have the technology. Just pour them

0:53

out. Just pour them and you you

0:55

put an ice maker up there and it just

0:57

like sort of rattles them out onto the onto

0:59

the ice. Do you have Al Gore's phone number

1:02

in these in these ice cubes? Do you see

1:04

a mosquito frozen in any of them? Oh, I

1:06

love that in there. That's

1:08

a good question. I would love to

1:11

wake a mosquito up from that circumstance.

1:13

Like imagine, imagine taking a mosquito out

1:15

of Russ's fridge and you melt it.

1:17

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1:20

in the fuck? And the scale looks

1:22

like what the fuck happened? And you're like, well,

1:24

OJ died. You

1:26

missed that. You missed. You missed out on.

1:28

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1:31

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2:35

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2:42

Fallout TV is based off of

2:44

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2:46

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2:49

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2:52

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2:54

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2:56

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2:59

I don't know, in the next month or

3:01

two, and we'll talk about that on a

3:03

different episode. But the TV show, set

3:05

in the same universe, in

3:07

beautiful, sunny, irradiated

3:10

California. It

3:12

is produced by Jonathan

3:14

Nolan, the other half of the Nolan

3:16

brothers, and Lisa Joy, his wife

3:18

and producing partner. But in a twist

3:20

written by other people, which we'll talk

3:22

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3:25

than Westworld. We're

3:28

also gonna mention, before we take a break, I

3:31

wanna mention that we're only gonna be talking about the

3:33

first two episodes of the show. So

3:35

if you- But we will be talking about all the

3:37

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3:40

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3:42

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the show opens like most Fallout

4:59

video games. Well, damn, that's

5:01

not even true. That's not true. Only

5:03

Fallout 4 begins the way the show begins.

5:05

Okay. You talk about the opening of

5:08

it, Fresh. You're like the number one Fallout fan, I think,

5:10

of this group. I am. I've been

5:12

a Fallout fan since the

5:14

originals, the isometric RPG. So

5:16

I've pretty much played them

5:18

all. And

5:22

this game, the closest comparison from the beginning is

5:24

Fallout 4. Both in

5:26

Fallout 4 and the show, it starts

5:29

before the bombs have dropped.

5:32

And the setting is, if you're not familiar

5:34

with Fallout, the setting is like kind

5:36

of Jetson-sy. It's like

5:39

50s futuristic, but not true

5:41

future. It's like that weird,

5:43

you know, laser rays, robots,

5:45

Jetsons kind of future. But it's not an

5:47

imagined history. I mean, it is like, it

5:49

is the actual 1950s. It's

5:52

just the, everything has changed

5:54

a little bit. Like it's not uniquely

5:56

fantastical. It's like there's some connection to

5:58

our History. Believe it's like.

6:00

If the nineteen fifties happened. In.

6:03

In the World stayed on

6:05

that trajectory that it had

6:07

predicted. And then it kept going

6:10

for like. More time to come

6:12

now because the and the Nineteen fifties,

6:14

which is when the ball effectively. Yeah,

6:16

I'll wait, I'm sorry. That's actually good

6:18

point because I think the bombs dropped.

6:21

According to the follow a timeline, Wow, You're

6:23

going to beat me on my knowledge. Somebody.

6:26

Look it up because it's like our

6:28

the equivalent of like Nineteen Ninety Pretty

6:30

where I rights the great war with

6:32

the global thermonuclear war think you fandom

6:34

that took place on Saturday. October.

6:37

Twenty third. Twenty. Seventy

6:39

Seven. O K

6:41

enrolling. Yeah, okay so yeah

6:44

you're right. So nineteen fifties happens

6:46

in America as we know it,

6:48

but of the things they imagined

6:50

and storytelling whatever was they ended

6:52

up producing said the culture was

6:54

built around like these. Magic like

6:56

not magic but like robots and

6:58

season cars and flying jet packs

7:00

and shit like that. so that's

7:02

sort of mentality be in so

7:04

when that when the nukes go

7:06

off in as played said twenty

7:08

seventy seven that's the society they're

7:10

living in. Which is

7:12

like this very white fanciful kind of.

7:15

Almost. Silly society but obviously the beginning

7:17

of the show is very dark. This is

7:19

the sensory like the apocalypse happening in Los

7:21

Angeles which is fucking intense. I will i

7:24

this they don't spend a ton of time

7:26

on it and they don't wisely. Yeah it's

7:28

nice to see those are and dark is

7:30

dark and it's very distressing. They don't spend

7:33

a ton of time one of the do

7:35

establish like. The. The steaks.

7:37

It's much more about it happening. they don't

7:39

so a ton of light. Human.

7:41

Cost early. It's like it's much more

7:44

about like. The table. setting like they're

7:46

defeated implied human costs because he did see entire

7:48

cities get his they're not trying your they're not

7:50

trying to bring you through the full emotional weight

7:52

of what is writing right it is not like

7:55

they're they're just trying to get kind of get

7:57

through it i do want to yell out one

7:59

specific law in this introduction which was

8:01

just like fucking

8:04

right into the get because

8:06

our main character or at least one of the

8:08

main characters, Walton Goggins, is in this scene. This

8:11

is before he gets nuked and will later become

8:13

a ghoul and he's with his

8:15

daughter and they keep talking

8:17

about the fact that he has

8:19

this like symbol, this I guess

8:22

you know move that he does. He

8:24

gives a thumbs up because he used to be

8:26

this very famous cowboy actor whatever it was and

8:29

he refuses to do it at one

8:32

point for a photo op and

8:35

his daughter asked him why he doesn't want to do

8:37

it and he's like oh it's adult stuff and she

8:39

presses him on it and he's like oh well when

8:41

we were in the army they trained us if you

8:43

put your thumb up and the explosion

8:45

is smaller than your thumb you should run

8:47

away as fast as possible and she's like

8:49

what happens if it's bigger than your thumb

8:51

and he's like you don't have to bother

8:53

running away and then later on the daughter's

8:55

like is it your thumb

8:58

or my thumb as she's seeing the fucking

9:00

explosion going off and that was like

9:02

oh yeah it's hugely it's hugely it's

9:04

it's it's bad it feels bad it's bad to

9:07

watch it which is why it's good that after

9:09

five minutes it like does a major tonal shift

9:11

and like I was like okay I can actually

9:13

watch this show now because before that I was

9:15

like I can make it five minutes and no

9:18

more. So we're in the vault uh

9:20

vault 33. And this is after

9:22

a 250 some odd year time jump. Yeah it's a long time but

9:30

we we jump into the future and we are uh

9:33

in vault 33 and it's it like you

9:35

said it's a big tonal

9:37

shift it everything has worked out you know like

9:39

it's it's really like it's it's okay everybody we

9:42

figured it out we got a whole new thing

9:44

going it's great but

9:46

Kyle McLaughlin is the overseer

9:48

well not not Kyle McLaughlin

9:50

the person but he's an

9:53

actor playing the role it would

9:55

be Ridiculous if the alternative

9:57

was true. but he is the Overseer.

9:59

His. Daughter Ah

10:01

Lucy. And. Is

10:03

what is his name. I. Have

10:05

no idea I have no idea

10:07

Bmc at since he did call

10:09

data via research so anyway he

10:11

ah is he is running this

10:14

this particular the vault and this

10:16

is a different car vault were.

10:18

And. I didn't know that this or maybe

10:20

this is business hours per easily but there

10:22

are three volts in are connected like

10:24

a in a sort of yes triumvirate rights

10:27

to these vaults trade I guess in

10:29

a very limited since back and forth way

10:31

way way way. I think there's just

10:33

too unless this is something that happens later

10:35

in the show. System. Is different

10:37

about these walls and I didn't notice

10:39

as of a thing. but at at

10:42

at least two, these holes are connected.

10:44

Thirty two and thirty three are connected

10:46

and we find out the first episode

10:48

that they are about to do. As

10:50

I guess it's a try. Any trade

10:52

may I bet it's Er. It's a

10:54

regular trade, but they're trading of like

10:56

biology. they're basically a intermingling the gene

10:58

pool so doesn't get to it's a

11:00

seaman trade. Yeah to see Mudras. Third,

11:02

trading that for us for I'm. Green

11:05

grain and like supply any that etti the

11:07

entrance of famine as what we now right

11:10

right? Yeah so what you find out to

11:12

speed this up because it's does nuns eggs

11:14

lox ah to. The. People to

11:16

come over from Vault Thirty two. Thirty.

11:18

Three know we'll go over. Op thirty three

11:20

was he was are not actually from the

11:22

rub their Rc raiders. They.

11:25

Sort of like thirty three of the

11:27

nice vault yeah and known as one

11:29

of the sake thirty two people who

11:31

actually raiders come over and they sort

11:33

of lay waste a to the vault

11:35

they kidnap. Led. By woman a

11:37

mile davor they kidnap. The

11:40

overseer and take him with them. I'm they

11:42

kill for the be on the bolts. And

11:44

oh. Without. Much

11:47

like consultation Lucy Fleas

11:49

to go. Ah. Receptor

11:51

get the and and an as very

11:53

if if you'd told me it was

11:55

the plot of the new Fallout game.

11:58

it would like it it feels right in

12:00

line with like a fallout. It feels very

12:02

much like a fallout setup. You

12:04

have the moment where she emerges from the vault

12:07

and the light floods in. Yeah. What's also funny

12:09

is if you ... What

12:12

you just described is like a

12:14

pretty dark fucked up experience. So

12:17

for anyone that hasn't seen it

12:19

or is familiar with fallout, you probably

12:21

won't expect that there's humor

12:23

throughout that entire extremely dark

12:25

fucked up period. For

12:28

example, at one point the entire vault

12:30

is getting marauded and they're

12:32

rolling in like a jello mold and

12:35

they're like, no, no, no, stop. What are

12:37

you doing with that jello mold? It's that

12:39

sort of like ... And this is very

12:41

true to fallout. It's this contrast

12:44

between an extremely fucked up

12:46

reality and this otherworldly,

12:51

not realistic, but

12:53

heightened, almost satire.

12:55

It's this idea, I think it plays

12:57

with the idea of like what after

13:00

collapse ... I

13:02

think the humor of fallout in short is like

13:04

after a collapse, what do we rush to rebuild?

13:07

You know what I mean? And there's things that some

13:10

of the people in the wasteland are like

13:12

rushing to rebuild faster than other people and

13:14

you see the things that people cling to

13:16

rather than just sort of ... Like you

13:18

know they're not essential, but like the human

13:20

stuff that people are doing beyond surviving in

13:23

this new reality I think is what makes

13:25

it funny. Yes. I think

13:27

this show in particular was really

13:29

interested in the B movie humor, which I

13:31

think that is like what you're talking about,

13:33

Fresh. Like, sorry, we ... You

13:36

mean ... Sorry, wait, stop everything.

13:38

Yeah, we need to clarify. You need to

13:40

clarify. When you say B

13:42

movie ... When you say B movie ... Oh, no, no, no,

13:44

no. I was going into it. I

13:47

said, you know, it's this winky, cheeky, like

13:49

... Right,

13:52

like J. Pfeiffer's movie. You know, like people in a

13:54

plastic costume and not ... And I see why you're

13:56

confused. Not Jerry Seinfeld as a

13:58

B. Okay, thank you. That's

14:01

all I ask. Okay, yeah, although that would be funny in

14:03

the show if it happened, I would be not. Well, we're

14:05

only talking about the first two episodes. That's true, it may

14:07

happen. I don't wanna talk about what happens in episode three.

14:11

So, yes, anyway, very, very

14:13

cool, sweet, cheeky stuff. And

14:16

then there is the, of

14:19

hoops to kinda go further on what you're

14:21

talking about, the how do

14:24

you maintain reality in society for 200

14:26

years, and how does it get perverted?

14:29

And that is how they talk

14:31

about sex in the show,

14:34

is both childish

14:36

and extremely vulgar. So

14:39

it's like, oh, you can only fuck

14:42

your cousin so many times before you have to

14:44

go. I would say it's matter of fact.

14:47

I mean, I guess we hear it as

14:49

vulgar, I see what you're saying. But it's

14:51

very like, business-like. This

14:55

is the main thing. This is what you do. Sex

14:58

does, is it weird, I feel like, anymore? Because it's like,

15:00

oh, no, no, no, no, we have to do this. We

15:03

can't be weird about this. Well, I

15:06

think it says more about Lucy as

15:08

a character than it's, because her cousin,

15:11

chat or whatever his name is, is genuinely

15:13

in love with her. And Lucy is like,

15:15

this is a math problem that we need to solve where we're

15:17

running out of human beings. So the only way to do that

15:19

is to have sex. And so,

15:22

I think it just depends on the

15:24

person and how they. She

15:26

talks about after 10 years of cousin stuff. She's

15:30

terrific. That's a

15:32

really tough role to run, because

15:34

you're really balancing a lot. And

15:37

she's just incredibly emotive and really

15:39

steals the show in a pretty

15:42

great way. So that's half the show.

15:44

Then there's the other half, which doesn't

15:47

work as well for me early

15:49

on. But I get why they're doing it.

15:51

Yeah, I'm actually really glad that we watched

15:53

two episodes, because the other half of the

15:56

show that we're going to be talking about,

15:58

and there probably are other shows. that

16:00

we haven't even seen yet in these first two episodes, is

16:03

the whole Brotherhood of Steel thing. Specifically

16:05

Maximus, who's a character in the Brotherhood of Steel.

16:07

He's like a cadet, if

16:09

you will. And he

16:12

is raised up in this militaristic organization.

16:14

The Brotherhood of Steel has existed in

16:16

the Fallout mythos really since the beginning.

16:20

If you've ever seen Power Armor on any of

16:22

the box arts for

16:24

the game, they usually have the Power Armor.

16:26

Their whole ethos is they want to roam

16:28

the wasteland and sort of hoard

16:30

any technology that they find and

16:33

kind of keep it for themselves in

16:35

rule. There have been different approaches to

16:37

the Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout 3,

16:39

for example. The Brotherhood of Steel is

16:41

like almost entirely altruistic in kind of

16:43

a boring way. I

16:45

think this version that we're seeing in the

16:47

show is probably a little more true to

16:49

most of the Brotherhood of Steel, which is

16:52

they portray themselves as like this

16:54

high and mighty organization that's saving the wasteland.

16:57

But really they tend to be selfish

16:59

assholes that don't really give a fuck

17:01

apart from having a lot of power. Tell

17:03

me if this is a right read of

17:06

most factions in Fallout. They

17:10

portray themselves as something we're familiar with,

17:12

like a church or a military or

17:14

a government. And then the reality

17:16

is they're a cult. Almost every

17:18

time it's like, these

17:20

things are actually cults. And if I think

17:23

that there's a message of this series, intentional

17:25

or not, hey,

17:28

what is the metaphor of

17:31

this apocalyptic wasteland? Is

17:33

it so far off from the world

17:35

that you live in? Yeah, I mean, I would

17:37

levy that at like any company

17:39

or organization that has a

17:42

structure to it, eventually ladders

17:44

up to one person. And

17:46

in a way you can make that feel like a cult. They

17:49

have prayer elements, if that's

17:51

the connection that you're making to it. And

17:53

there's like a kind of Holier

17:55

than now aspect to it. It Would also

17:58

like a cult that so often. Use

18:00

these on systems and whether they're

18:02

like management or political or religious

18:05

are I'm intensely obvious skating the

18:07

like actual intention and the ago

18:09

intention is like nefarious. well and

18:12

that's actually good segue because I

18:14

don't want to go into this

18:17

because I don't know of the

18:19

show. Reveals this later

18:21

on. But. The true purpose

18:23

of the vaults at large is

18:25

like. Very much in line with that.

18:28

Might. There is a reason why those

18:30

vaults existed and what their what? Their

18:32

purpose was beyond just keeping everyone alive.

18:35

On. Which has been like core throughout

18:37

the entire series of Fall so I

18:39

yeah I would completely agree. Obfuscation and

18:41

like hiding through perfect is the entire

18:43

you have any Him even only watched

18:45

two episodes right? Correct. As

18:48

was the assignment with where I will say

18:50

that spoiler by any means as was the

18:52

assignment as as yes I may I present.

18:54

why would we not much more at all?

18:56

because of the people at home haven't seen

18:59

more. As my point for fans the game

19:01

who want to know more about that, the

19:03

show is very clearly very interested in the

19:05

question of the vaults. Yeah, and I think

19:07

that is why it. Is. So cool

19:09

about it like it is in the theater.

19:12

The very format in the shell allows it

19:14

to go deeper into some stuff. That.

19:16

I like the games don't have as

19:18

much. We we just. My.

19:21

Just. Real. Quick get through the

19:23

rest as of yet plaza. So basically there

19:25

is a Macguffin. It is. Of

19:28

course you fryer Yes, it the head

19:30

of Michael Emerson Sauce. Earth.

19:34

Ah who are it is

19:36

always. A delight to see

19:38

on television that may be is our first

19:40

notice him as so many when you play

19:42

Benjamin Linus and last but he was also

19:44

in Oh My God what was the forgetting.

19:47

Ah, He did like a hundred years Russia would

19:49

emerge as the Middle East. Yes, first

19:52

major and Jonathan Nolan right and pretty sure

19:54

that I'd another was deathly and know and

19:56

I was. I makes perfect sense and com

19:58

of Auckland Ah Mayor of. Portland mayor

20:00

of the vault and one of the co-writers

20:02

of the series was one of the main

20:05

writers of Portlandia You

20:07

mean yes, and so you mentioned

20:09

basically the the ghoul who's coop

20:11

he was in the explosion We

20:14

see him in the future

20:16

roaming the wasteland. He's also hunting for this bounty

20:18

of Michael

20:21

Emerson's character dr. Leapsie Libs

20:24

a Something

20:26

he's putting the serious into his head.

20:28

Something is in his head. Yeah, and

20:30

he has to escape. He also has

20:32

a dog Yes, he

20:34

has a dog and something is in his head and

20:36

basically Maximus the

20:38

did we talk about Maximus we don't

20:40

know. Yeah Before we get back to

20:42

this I do want to call out one thing about Michael Emerson one

20:45

of the first times you see him not the very

20:47

first time But very early on he's

20:49

sitting at a fire with

20:52

loose Lucy is like sleeping in a fire

20:54

And he's just sitting there and you see

20:56

the fire reflected in his glasses And it

20:58

was the most like Ben Linus lost a

21:00

shot where he's just like being creepy in

21:02

the fire light Oh brought back

21:04

so many memories a Maximus anyway Yeah,

21:08

Maximus is basically he's a low-level want

21:10

to be squire in the Brotherhood of

21:12

Steel. He gets the call up

21:14

to To

21:16

serve and basically after maybe

21:18

hijacking his fellow possibly. Yeah. Yeah, exactly

21:20

probably and

21:23

gets the call to serve and basically finds it figures out

21:25

that his Night

21:27

is an asshole and played by Michael

21:29

Rappaport and maybe the best fucking cameo

21:31

I've seen and you need to quickly

21:34

communicate the information that is being communicated

21:36

You have to make this dude so

21:38

hateable that basically after this attack He

21:41

takes off his helmet and he needs a stem

21:43

packer He's gonna die and the dude watches him

21:45

die you have you have to find someone who

21:47

can Establish that in a minute and when you

21:49

need that you call Michael Rappaport Only

21:53

one who can fill this armor and make

21:55

the audience be Like yeah, I Understand why you'd

21:58

watch the light. Let

22:00

me give her own is. Not only

22:02

that, it also really serves to fix

22:04

the Brotherhood of Steel problem that I

22:06

think the first episode had rights. I

22:09

get what they were doing. there were

22:11

doing this set up where you think

22:13

it's dislike. very serious, straightforward, obvious for

22:15

yeah. Go ahead. And then they do

22:17

this curve where Michael Rapaport character gets

22:19

attacked by the i think it's a

22:21

call the yeah why in the Of

22:24

Fi universe is basically a writer. It

22:26

radiated bear. And while it's being

22:28

attacked you think he's gonna like duke it

22:30

out at it's, making a fuss hey and

22:32

then at once and he just like bolts

22:35

he says and runs away from the bear.

22:37

It has like no no for perfect and

22:39

that white shows you our this whole thing

22:41

is a fucking is bullshit my now he

22:43

boards yet thank goodness as he made that

22:46

near decision rather than the writers' room because

22:48

the thing that I got nothing could have

22:50

accounted for his. Brother

22:52

had a the still looks really stupid

22:54

on Tv. These suits do not translate.

22:56

Yeah the medium I'm telling you see

22:58

a bunch thrown together. I think he

23:00

makes it work on his own. When

23:02

you see the so shots of like

23:04

what does this represent I mean they

23:06

look like power armor. I don't know,

23:08

this is usually it doesn't I got

23:10

married to lose like cosplay because everybody

23:13

moves. So. Fast and that

23:15

it is it. it. It looks like really

23:17

an uncontrolled are all O'connor tied because. The.

23:19

And this is in the we have mentioned but like. Everything.

23:23

Looks. Like salt a good looks yes

23:25

so much like incredibly as stairs my acrosss and

23:27

like a lot of prob said or render like

23:30

the can have cram yeah I is like rendered

23:32

one for a while. I mean look how amazingly

23:34

like everything in the aesthetically if we had i

23:36

thought was going to be a faults were was

23:39

gonna be a problem but I have zero eight

23:41

it ends up because it's so consistent ends up

23:43

being of our real benefit. I think it raises

23:45

a question of what would it be like to

23:48

play a followup game. Where. The people

23:50

Good. dinner man in

23:52

yeah i'm as surprised as it may

23:54

now we have an answer would be

23:56

a credible i think this is ah

23:58

this is just But personally

24:01

I think that the maximus stuff

24:03

doesn't work very well because

24:06

I don't feel

24:08

like the actor playing him is

24:10

very Doesn't

24:12

really work for me that performance doesn't really land

24:15

for me at all It's kind of all over

24:17

the place and a lot of times I'm looking

24:19

at him and I have no idea what he

24:21

is supposed to be communicating. Okay I thought this

24:23

at first and I've come

24:25

around to thinking that the put in

24:27

episode six You know, I'm not gonna get

24:30

any spoilers I've come

24:32

around to think that the performances is quite

24:34

solid But this character

24:36

is a wild character to make

24:38

as a co-main character because he

24:41

sucks He is an

24:43

asshole. He's a coward. He's

24:45

he's both like active But

24:48

the way he's active we don't often see

24:50

he's inactive in a lot of really annoying

24:52

ways Everyone

24:54

he makes worse people around

24:56

him seem better. Yeah,

24:59

a very very choice. So I feel

25:01

like he is often left to

25:06

It's a thankless job as an

25:08

actor to like be this central

25:10

and also be this unlikeable on

25:12

like a script level And

25:14

maybe like maybe what you're talking about

25:16

is like they needed somebody that

25:19

is Makeable to

25:21

try at least complicate it like I don't know

25:23

if maybe later in the season I was supposed

25:25

to realize like oh this guy is a coward

25:28

Or that's his arc that he's going to change but

25:30

man He it's an interesting choice at

25:32

least to have a character that I'm

25:34

with that character what okay,

25:37

so what? Here's where

25:39

I think the what I there

25:42

is like a 10 minutes where this show really

25:44

clicked for me and It

25:46

is in the second episode When

25:48

you see basically Michael Emerson

25:50

has wandered into a town You

25:53

see Lucy come into a town

25:55

called Philly, which is confusingly not Philadelphia,

25:59

but. Rather a landfill they are still

26:01

oh I didn't Really, I didn't get the

26:03

joke on. lay Fl yeah yeah so you're

26:05

gigantic landfill A silly is yes gets So

26:08

you basically learn that like people up top

26:10

saw all the vault dollars were dead and

26:12

think that vault doors are fucking joke here

26:14

and there is a real great conversation about

26:16

like for they know they didn't they're not

26:18

all dead As a Judge Emmet know it's

26:21

like they're not a they're not at sea

26:23

jokes. The first thing he says is i

26:25

thought you all world via ebay I you

26:27

could see where I be misled because when

26:29

attack at. Amazon has her are but I

26:31

to I love your read on it

26:34

though. Ah, I only mention that because

26:36

they they're specifically pep boys being sold in

26:38

the store so she's clearly like. Has.

26:41

Seen at least the Argus. They cut him whenever

26:43

it. Everybody on the yeah, everybody on the surface

26:45

has a pit boy. Now know

26:47

my glimmers and had one. See well not

26:50

everyone now I it seems like an upper

26:52

class. the yeah buddy with they were really

26:54

interesting conversation about light the privilege of being

26:57

in the vaults. Yeah it's like oh

26:59

that's the kind of. Conversation.

27:01

Where it that's an interesting conversation to

27:03

be having, right? Because that there's There's

27:05

some really interesting parallels that honor. And

27:07

then. There. Is a moment where

27:09

Walton Goggins ends up in the same town,

27:11

the goal as of the same town and

27:13

he. The he levels

27:16

of play I mean he's like is

27:18

a force of nature rise until both

27:20

is so charismatic that it's like. Impossible.

27:23

To look at anything else on screen even

27:25

with the hundred pounds make up is amazing

27:27

and he like Eloise be more and a

27:30

life threatening every one and like there's no

27:32

one that's gonna stand up form and this

27:34

is right after you have this conversation about

27:36

like privilege and what it means and stuff

27:39

and you see her look at a vault

27:41

boy and she's like yeah fuck okay. I.

27:44

Gotta do the right thing

27:46

and that that moment there

27:48

is so interesting because. It's.

27:50

A video game moment. It's

27:53

not a moment the you is. logically

27:56

i don't feel like you would see that in

27:58

a lot of like t v script writing or

28:00

movie script writing because I think that you're told

28:02

that characters need to be a lot

28:06

more complex, a lot more multi-layered. There

28:08

has to be a lot more grays.

28:10

And it's actually really refreshing in a

28:12

show that is so dark to

28:14

have a character that establishes up front like

28:17

she's going to try to do the right

28:19

thing. And that is what you would do

28:21

in a – that is the approach that

28:23

you would take in the video game is

28:25

it doesn't matter that he's better than you

28:27

and everybody else is dead and it's because

28:29

you're the fucking main character in the video

28:31

game. Go out there and shoot that guy.

28:33

And that moment of her like you can

28:35

tell it twists something for the other people

28:37

too. And they're like okay maybe we'll give

28:39

it like one chance. And that really, really

28:42

brought it home for me as like getting

28:45

the spirit of what this thing

28:47

is and being really adherent to it

28:49

without trying to make it feel like something

28:51

is not. And it actually dives into specifically

28:54

the tenets of what her

28:56

vault was built around because

28:59

each of the vaults sort of have

29:01

their own ethos and way of like

29:03

doing things. And the fact that her

29:05

vault, the like thing was this is

29:07

a meritocracy. Everyone like does the

29:09

right thing for the greater good of everyone

29:11

else. And so the fact

29:13

that you're tying that into like how she

29:15

was raised and how that defines her and

29:19

showing that – and again like they could have

29:21

been way more on the nose and obvious about

29:23

it. I think just the one

29:25

shot of the bobblehead

29:28

like nodding was

29:30

enough to really like hammer that home of like

29:32

she's only got one choice. She knows

29:34

she can't do anything but be true to the

29:37

place she was grown up in. But the show

29:39

is not necessarily Pollyanna about it. There's a great

29:41

line where Ma June who's like running the shop

29:43

there and she's kind of the old – the

29:47

unofficial mayor of the town that feels like

29:50

she says so what was the purpose of

29:52

the vaults? And you

29:54

hear Lucy say a little bit embarrassed.

29:57

We're going to save

29:59

America. And Modion looks

30:01

around and says, when were you

30:04

planning on saving America? Like,

30:06

that it feels very contemporary for

30:08

a show that... It also,

30:11

without ever saying it, is such a,

30:13

oh, this is what it's like for

30:16

the NPCs in a video game when

30:18

I come through. Because

30:20

this character is so optimistic

30:22

and so flat

30:24

and in a good way of like,

30:26

singularly motivated, everybody seems like,

30:28

kind of confused. Like, the rest

30:30

of this world was existing before they ever showed

30:32

up. It will continue to exist when they leave

30:34

and is like, so puzzled by this force that

30:37

comes in and is like, I'm not... I don't

30:39

know any of your rules. I don't know any

30:41

of your logic. I'm just here on my mission.

30:43

I have my Pip-Boy. It has a little

30:45

mark on it. I need to go there and I'm gonna do

30:47

this. I'm gonna try to help you along the way. And

30:51

watching everyone be so confounded

30:53

by this character is such

30:56

a, like, you feel it. Of like,

30:58

oh yeah, this is definitely how I

31:01

must annoy every NPC I meet. I

31:03

mean, she's like an alien that like, dropped in

31:05

from nowhere, basically. The

31:08

biggest shock about Fallout,

31:10

the show, for me, to this point,

31:12

has been my... Okay,

31:15

Travis, never played Fallout.

31:17

Watched all of it. My in-laws,

31:20

like, Sydney's parents were like, we're watching this show.

31:22

You guys have got to check it out. Fallout.

31:25

I'm like, what? Fallout? They watch a lot

31:27

of TV, but like, they've never played it.

31:30

My brother-in-law, Taylor, says to Sydney, I know this isn't

31:32

the kind of show you normally watch, but you've got

31:34

to see Fallout. That

31:36

is shocking. Taylor's

31:39

never played Fallout either. So there's like, I

31:42

really feel... It's really interesting

31:44

to me that by

31:47

committing to a world and

31:50

deciding that they are not going

31:52

to stop and explain every single

31:54

fucking thing that happens, they're not

31:56

gonna hang a lantern on it.

32:00

like, Walton

32:04

Goggins at one point eats some cherry tomatoes.

32:06

It's amazing. Of course, we're all loving it.

32:08

That's so good. He says he's hungry and

32:11

he gets a big handful of cherry tomatoes,

32:13

like a fucking maniac, and starts

32:15

eating them and spitting the pits out. And then

32:17

he drops a handful of something

32:19

and he says, for

32:21

the tomatoes. And it looks like bottle caps.

32:23

And a few other times people say caps.

32:26

At no point is

32:28

anyone like, oh yeah, these days,

32:30

bottle caps, they're money. Like

32:32

it doesn't happen. But I think by having

32:35

the trust in that world and just having

32:37

an expansive world there, even

32:39

if you don't know it, like you feel it.

32:42

You feel that it's a real place. Like

32:44

it feels lived in and thought out. Even

32:46

that, as you're saying this,

32:49

is he eating it? Or is he... Because

32:51

I don't know if ghouls can eat normal

32:53

food. I guess the question I

32:55

had is, has anyone ever spit out the seeds

32:58

in a cherry tomato? Yeah, I think he's spitting

33:00

the food out because he can't even... Because remember

33:02

there's another ghoul who... Well, I don't know what

33:04

episode this is. Never mind. I

33:06

don't know any other ghouls. I

33:09

mean, oh yeah, surprise. They're ghouls in the

33:11

Fallout TV shows. Chris Planet cannot help himself.

33:13

Are you kidding me? He's referred to with

33:15

the definitive article of the ghoul. So

33:18

clearly there's only one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The

33:21

ghoul who meets the gabagoul. I

33:24

do have a question though for the room. And

33:26

here's what's surprising to me is Justin says all of the

33:28

people that have come to him and recommended the show and

33:30

liked the show even if they don't like the... Or

33:33

haven't played the game. The

33:35

thing that surprised me, perhaps most of all,

33:38

is that they are incredibly true

33:40

to specifically the violence of the

33:42

game. Okay, that's... Yes,

33:44

I think that that's one... I think that's a problem.

33:47

I think that in that second episode when

33:49

you do... Which is I think where it's

33:51

like the war... I mean the

33:53

first episode has some pretty fucking gnarly shit.

33:56

For sure, for sure. But there's like there's

33:58

heinous stuff in both of them. And

34:01

I kind of chuckled when

34:03

I watched it and I looked over at

34:05

Sydney and she was horrified. It was like,

34:08

whoa, what was this? And I don't think –

34:10

I think that if you're watching it, you get

34:12

it eventually. But I think that if I hadn't

34:15

been there with Sydney to be like, this

34:18

is kind of a thing, she might have gotten iced out of it

34:20

because it – I

34:23

think there are three audiences. There is the people

34:25

who play the video games and they know what

34:27

this is and they're going to get on board

34:29

relatively quickly. There are the people

34:31

like Sydney – my dad bounced off

34:33

the show after one episode because he

34:35

was like, what is it?

34:38

The violence just like really upset him and he didn't

34:40

understand that it was like, it's a joke. But

34:43

then there's the third group who has

34:45

not played Fallout but loves the boys

34:47

on Amazon Prime. And I

34:49

think that is how they sold this show.

34:52

Like it is doing

34:54

so much of the same stuff as the boys

34:56

in terms of violence and to some degree like

34:59

potty mouth humor despite

35:02

being a very, very, very different show.

35:04

Like I much prefer this. But I

35:06

think that is why

35:08

it's there. I think it is a selling point for Amazon.

35:11

I think they want – like this is the thing that

35:13

they're like, this is what

35:15

our audience loves. They love extreme, funny violence. Yeah,

35:17

I think if the boys was not the success

35:19

that it is, there's no way this show has

35:21

the level of violence that it does. I think

35:23

Amazon would have pulled the plug on that. I

35:27

do agree with Justin. I don't know

35:29

that we need it for

35:31

the show to succeed and I do think

35:33

it will scare people away. I think

35:36

there are plenty of opportunities in the Fallout

35:38

universe to like lean on the jokes and

35:40

the hilarity without having like an SMG shove

35:42

through a guy's skull and having that guy

35:44

shoot to other people while the gun is

35:47

in his head. That's

35:49

my read of it. I mean I like

35:52

it because it's whatever true to the game, but

35:54

I also do worry. Like I don't think –

35:57

I would want my mom to watch this and that

35:59

is a reason why. She probably won't like it You

36:02

are probably alien and maybe they're alien anymore

36:04

people than they're then they're getting I say

36:06

I can say it's it's I Will

36:09

just say that the level I think

36:11

it's that the level of gore is

36:13

just a little bit past like funny

36:16

towards like She's like I can't

36:18

even oh The later funny

36:20

seems to happen to computer characters like

36:22

are not as funny Yeah, the leg

36:25

him getting his leg like that whole

36:27

situation. Oh, yeah, it was a lot

36:29

I Tend

36:33

to agree I'm not like Make

36:36

a violent person in my media,

36:38

but they do have a

36:40

target audience I think what is like surprising

36:42

about the show is it so good that

36:45

The instinct is to be like yeah, my mom

36:47

should watch it when in reality made this they're

36:50

like, what the hell are you talking? We

36:53

never thought that that would even be an option

36:55

Yeah Like they I'm sure that they're there

36:57

their goal was so much smaller than probably

36:59

out there gonna actually have an opportunity to

37:02

get It's gonna be a

37:04

big I feel like when I have that

37:06

many different like separate points of people coming

37:08

to me organically I feel like it's gonna

37:10

be big. Yeah, we we should take a

37:12

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39:19

thing before we move on from Fallout, I do have

39:21

a little bit of a wish and it's probably a

39:23

naive wish. And again, I've only seen the first two

39:25

episodes, so I don't know where it goes. But

39:29

having seen what I've seen, there is

39:31

a part of me that wishes this

39:34

becomes an anthology show and not

39:36

a, we're only following this story

39:39

and these people. Because I

39:41

think the strength of Fallout and

39:43

really all storytelling is like, it's really

39:45

fucking hard to do an overarching story

39:47

with the same characters for many, many

39:49

seasons at a time. And

39:51

I think there's a lot of really interesting things

39:54

about Fallout that come out when you're like, oh,

39:56

this is how the West Coast is handling the

39:58

apocalypse. How are they doing in ball? Or

40:00

how they doing it in West

40:02

Virginia or whatever Russ. I think

40:04

that Amazon

40:07

should this show be successful will

40:09

be More than happy.

40:11

Oh, they're gonna do like CSI Miami

40:13

and many different fallout things as you

40:16

want There's a boy spin-off. Yeah, like

40:18

they were they would be thrilled to

40:20

to let you watch Gregos

40:22

the the series. Yeah, whatever my marketability

40:24

standpoint I do appreciate that like anthology

40:26

shows are harder because you kind of

40:29

starting from scratch each time you Reboot

40:31

the cast and things you're right.

40:33

I it wouldn't surprise me to see them just do

40:37

spin-offs before the show who you

40:39

were Hinting at why

40:41

this show kind of changes what

40:43

our expectations can be for video

40:45

game adaptations or the possibilities, right?

40:48

It's it well, it's more like

40:50

seeing the the problems that they

40:52

solved by taking it seriously And

40:55

like and an adapting I think I

40:57

think to me The

40:59

number one thing that I that I kind

41:01

of realized watching this is that if you're

41:03

gonna adapt a video game specifically

41:07

an open world Sprawling

41:09

thing it should be

41:11

a TV show It shouldn't

41:13

be a movie. It should be a TV

41:15

show because if you think about how much

41:17

is happening in fallout and How

41:20

much they are able to bring in right?

41:24

It to make it feel like fallout

41:27

if you were trying to get this

41:29

into two hours It

41:31

you would lose everything about

41:33

the world that makes it worth

41:35

doing right? you wouldn't have any sense of being

41:37

in the world because what you you forget is

41:41

the the special sauce

41:43

of Video game adaptation

41:45

is almost never the story

41:48

like the special sauce is not like in fall

41:50

I don't know any of these people. I don't

41:53

in these characters. I know this game this world's

41:55

super well I don't know any of these characters,

41:57

but if you try to make a movie

42:00

where I have to get like action hero excited about one

42:02

of these people, it's gonna

42:04

be 10 minutes of in the vault, trying

42:06

to truck through that and then trying to get

42:08

out in the wasteland. If you have a story

42:11

that takes 80 hours to tell in a video

42:13

game, like at least spreading it out to eight

42:15

makes it feel a lot more authentic, I think,

42:17

to the experience of. And like

42:20

lets you use the

42:22

things from it that are

42:24

good and useful and let

42:26

you not get into

42:28

the, like it just lets you use the

42:30

good stuff in it and like do your

42:33

own storytelling within the world. Yeah, I think

42:35

the comparison was that, I know

42:37

for years they were trying to make the Bioshock movie. And

42:39

for a variety of reasons it didn't happen, not

42:43

the least of which was budget, but also like

42:46

that's exactly what you're talking about. Like

42:48

Rapture is the star of that, it's

42:50

not necessarily like the twist

42:52

or the specific characters and

42:55

you really would have to sprint. Whereas I

42:57

think it's very clear to me now and

42:59

I think there is one in production that

43:02

a Bioshock TV show would work in the

43:04

way that this show works. I, okay.

43:07

So I think. You don't agree. Well kind

43:09

of, I agree and disagree. I think that

43:12

this show reveals what

43:14

games are ripe for adaptations.

43:17

And that is anthology

43:20

games effectively, games that have really

43:22

rigid worlds, they have different stories

43:24

every time, but they have a

43:27

familiar structure and lots of interesting

43:29

like side quest, right? I

43:31

think Assassin's Creed, weirdly coming off this, I'm like,

43:33

oh I can see that. You know what every

43:36

Assassin's Creed is, but

43:38

if you start a TV series with a

43:41

different character in a different location, I'm

43:43

honestly more excited about it. Because I'm like, I can't

43:46

wait to see this part of

43:48

history with some new character and how they're

43:50

going to go about it. I'm like dying

43:52

to see Ezio. On the other hand, Halo,

43:54

that's really tough because

43:57

it's like, well, each game is different, but it's all

43:59

Master Chief and the. or super complex and I

44:01

never get a reset, that's tough. Bioshock,

44:04

I think, is an interesting example because

44:07

Bioshock started to do this.

44:10

Bioshock, Bioshock Infinite, they were

44:12

getting at same kind

44:14

of story template, but in different locations,

44:16

different heroes, and when I think of

44:18

what would make a great Bioshock TV

44:20

series, it would be doing that. A

44:23

new location, a new character, but

44:25

that same structure, and

44:28

that would be really exciting and get me

44:30

really curious to watch it, rather than constraining

44:33

them to do what worked

44:36

well in a video game, which is a really

44:38

thankless job. So I-

44:40

Yeah, but I would say I think

44:43

what did well in Bioshock, mostly, is

44:45

that world that they created. That succeeds.

44:49

But I'm saying if you created a

44:51

new world, I would still be very

44:53

excited. I don't have a

44:55

desire to see more rapture. I

44:58

haven't just- Oh, you're crazy. That would be awesome.

45:01

Like, imagine a bioshock series that's

45:03

set during the fall of rapture

45:05

with sort of a gilded era

45:07

murder mystery, whatever,

45:10

I don't care. I would be happy to watch

45:12

anything rapture. This is perhaps too deep of a

45:14

dive into whether or not we would watch a

45:16

rapture. No, I know. I think

45:19

that's good. Which should be called rapture

45:21

instead of bioshock. You're welcome. Let's hear

45:23

it. Enjoy. That's also just a

45:25

good but different template, right? Which is like, how

45:27

do we set up our games? I think what's

45:29

cool about that, what you're talking about now we're

45:31

just using, we're going deep on Bioshock here. I

45:34

tried to stop it. No, but

45:36

that- You refused. That accomplishes something

45:38

else, which is I think it's great

45:40

when adaptations do what the original medium

45:42

couldn't. And like, you know what

45:44

the games would have been for at since they're all

45:47

about shooting people and using special powers? The

45:49

fall of rapture. Because there's like a lot of political

45:52

and social stuff. And you get all that stuff

45:54

in the game, but it's all through like audio

45:57

logs and things like that. I should also say,

45:59

I think that- My takeaway the more

46:01

I think about it is less that every video

46:03

game should be TV show rather than a movie

46:05

and more that You need

46:07

to like being considerate about

46:09

what the best template for

46:12

it is like mortal combat

46:15

Video game is a martial

46:17

arts movie. Yeah, you are going Person

46:19

to person and fighting them and then you

46:22

fight the worst one like that is a

46:24

martial arts way So make it as a

46:26

martial arts movie makes perfect fucking yeah, it's

46:28

already that So Super Mario was a Super

46:30

Mario game. Well in that he runs around

46:32

and Jumps on things

46:34

and eventually he kills the lizard. Well, that's

46:36

good. We can do that in a movie.

46:39

That's two hours Let's fall out. Well for

46:41

eight hours You wandered around an expansive wasteland

46:43

and have all these different interwoven stories like

46:45

90 minutes. Can we do it 90? There

46:51

is a universal characteristic to everything you've

46:53

described and that is When

46:55

they transfer over to either a movie or TV

46:58

show They bring the like

47:00

outlandishness of that franchise and really the

47:02

only time that the hasn't happened and

47:04

has been successful Is the

47:06

Last of Us TV show? Because

47:08

every other instance whenever they do like a

47:11

straight ultra serious version of the video game

47:14

Assassin's Creed jumps to mind it

47:16

tends to be pretty miserable and

47:18

I wonder whether Like

47:22

like I don't know what that fucking Zelda movie

47:24

would be I think I think that's you know

47:26

knowing what is

47:28

fun about your game both for the game

47:30

creator and the adaptation creator, right and like

47:33

Last of Us is constantly fighting itself about

47:36

how silly it is that you are just

47:38

like a like deranged murderer,

47:40

you know roaming the wasteland slaughtering

47:42

the blood of innocent I

47:45

mean it's that's the thesis of

47:47

the game. Well, but how The

47:51

silliness of of that in

47:53

the game. Yeah is it definitely

47:56

a drink problem, right? Buckler

48:00

fucking mass murder. Assassin's

48:02

Creed is like, you

48:04

fight the Pope. And

48:06

maybe they think they're making a serious game,

48:08

and maybe the movie thinks they're making a

48:11

serious movie. But nobody playing Assassin's Creed at

48:13

everyone was like, this

48:15

is serious shit. They're thinking like, this

48:18

is silly ass funny shit and I'm having

48:20

a great time. And I- But

48:22

the movie version of that needs to be adapted. Exactly. The

48:25

movie needs to bring over the like,

48:28

you are weirdo space aliens fighting

48:32

the Pope. I was watching the TV

48:34

show and at least two different times

48:37

I had this thought, I wish I was playing this.

48:39

Yeah. Like, I wish this was, I

48:41

wish I was playing this. This looks really fun. Like, this

48:43

looks like a lot more fun than- When

48:46

she sees the little

48:48

vault boy statue, real

48:51

bad versions of like, she's not gonna

48:53

grab it? Yeah, that's

48:55

really beautiful. That's due to speech right there. Yeah,

48:59

this show rocks. I'm really excited to watch

49:01

more of it. Yeah.

49:05

I, it's really, really good. I'm really

49:07

excited. I hope more TV shows get this

49:09

kind of- I think maybe in a

49:11

few weeks we should talk about like, the whole thing.

49:13

Spoiler, it doesn't need to be like an eight segment.

49:15

Oh, maybe. I don't think it'll

49:17

be a few weeks, probably like a couple months.

49:19

I wanna give people the time, but- Yeah. It's

49:22

very good. But

49:24

we'll make good on it. We did our infinite

49:26

wealth. That's right. Yeah, we'll do it. We

49:30

have some reader mail. Yeah, what are people

49:32

talking about? So, a lot

49:34

of people commenting on the, some of

49:36

the great games that have come out,

49:38

specifically we, y'all did the rainy day

49:40

games last week. This

49:42

comes from Cameron Swingle. Hey, Bethany, I just

49:44

wanted to mention how crazy of a release

49:46

month April has been and continues to be

49:49

for indie games, big updates, and big mods.

49:51

Click bound, hit 1.0 this week and has

49:54

devoured myself and all my roguelite friends. Did

49:56

you play that, Justin? It's from the- I played

49:58

it really early. I need

50:01

to return to it. I played it before it was really

50:03

ready for prime time We

50:05

also have no Eda got its first

50:07

huge update in three years I was

50:09

reading about that that game rules the

50:11

planet crafter hit 1.0 Finds out

50:14

fantastic survival craft game with no combat and

50:16

terraforming a planet. That sounds dope system shock

50:18

remake got its big 1.2 update and Console

50:22

release next month Rimworld got a huge 1.5

50:25

update anomaly expansion botany manner is crushing

50:27

it Nexus 5x comes out in a

50:29

week fallout London comes out in a

50:31

week plant mentioned that earlier I don't know what that

50:33

is. It doesn't come out in a week, but we

50:36

should talk about that in a second Okay,

50:38

dwarf fortress adventure mode releases in beta this

50:40

week the list goes on. Yeah. Wow that

50:42

has been fucking crazy

50:46

So have you not heard about fallout London? Do

50:48

you know about this? Holy shit? Okay,

50:50

so these um I

50:53

mean just game designers. It's silly to

50:55

call them just modders here have made

50:57

a Colossal

51:00

expansion slash spin-off of

51:02

fallout For that

51:04

is set in London that is

51:07

kind of its own thing and they've been

51:09

working on it for years. It looks unbelievable

51:13

Here's the problem. It was going to come out next

51:15

week Microsoft is

51:18

releasing the next-gen update Yeah,

51:20

they have to wait for that update to

51:22

come out test against it and then they

51:24

can release after that So maybe that takes

51:27

like a day for them to like adjust.

51:29

What is the next in nothing longer? So

51:31

there is so Bethesda Microsoft are releasing next-gen

51:34

update to fallout 4 which will allow it

51:36

to run at 60 FPS on Console

51:38

specifically ps5 and Xbox Series X

51:41

it'll also be verified on Steam

51:43

Deck for the first time And

51:47

I don't know what other tweaks they're doing. They made will

51:49

it be made more fun We're

51:51

flesh that's actually a good segue I'll

51:54

mention it now. So for rest

51:57

ease this coming Tuesday Chris plant

51:59

and are playing through Fallout New Vegas,

52:01

which arguably is the best 3D

52:04

Fallout game ever made. So

52:07

join us on that adventure. The game, I don't

52:09

think the sale is still going on, but the

52:12

game costs like 10 bucks on Steam if you want to like get

52:15

it. It runs great on Steam Deck and

52:17

fucking rules. I love Fallout New Vegas. I

52:19

guess 5, 250 on sale. It's

52:22

ridiculous. Yeah, right now it's on sale, but I think the

52:24

sale will be done by the time this episode goes live.

52:28

Also great DLC. You can get the DLC for

52:31

the cheap as well. Okay,

52:34

another letter. This comes from Jeff Nelson.

52:36

Great episode. Everyone needs to

52:38

check out Dorfromantic. Did I get that

52:40

right? Yeah. As

52:43

the perfect rainy day and vibes game,

52:45

it is a tile laying cozy

52:47

puzzle game. Wait, we've all

52:49

played Dorfromantic, right? I don't think I played

52:51

it. For real? Yeah, I don't

52:53

think I played it. We definitely... Yeah,

52:56

we didn't have to hold on. You laid like... Maybe

52:58

not an episode, but we totally played it. It's

53:00

one of those like puzzle games that's hard to describe but

53:03

easy to play. Oh, it looks

53:05

very cute and pretty. I don't think I'm gonna ask him.

53:08

Oh my gosh, y'all. Y'all.

53:11

You're gonna love this game so much, I could've sworn that

53:13

I made us all play this. A

53:16

couple more letters. This

53:19

comes from Elias. Hey guys, wanted to see if

53:21

y'all had recommendations for board games and

53:24

the like. My girlfriend and I have

53:26

been playing Cloomhaven Jaws of the Lion

53:28

and Emerge lately. Emerge particularly stands

53:30

out as a game that I love and

53:32

is great for two players, recommended to anyone

53:35

who's curious. Love what you do. Any

53:39

board games? I don't really play a lot of board games. Juice?

53:43

Umm... Anything two player

53:45

maybe? What's it called? Fugitive. It's

53:48

a really good small

53:51

game for two players where

53:54

one is a fugitive on the

53:56

run and one is a marshal. And

53:59

basically the... Without getting into

54:01

mechanics, the fugitive is laying down

54:03

– face down card that

54:06

are basically their bases and there's numbered

54:08

bases. And the marshal doesn't know which

54:10

– they have to – the refugee has to lay them

54:12

out in sequence, but the marshal

54:14

doesn't know which cards

54:18

they've laid down. So basically it's – and

54:21

you can only make certain small

54:23

jumps between bases, so the marshal is trying

54:25

to hunt down the fugitive

54:27

by guessing their bases and they start ruling

54:29

out possible locations that they could be. The

54:32

marshal has a little dry erase board that

54:34

they're updating their search on, but the refugee

54:36

– or escapee rather can – it

54:38

has a strategy to it too. But

54:41

the two of them are kind of facing off against each other. You

54:43

play it in like 15 minutes. It's really good. I

54:45

bring it on the road with me. It's just a small box. I

54:48

played a ton. I

54:51

played ticket to ride at a bachelor party a

54:53

couple weeks ago. Sounds like a

54:55

heck of a bachelor party. It was

54:57

great. I won, so it's always

54:59

better when you win. That and the crystal meth

55:01

really made it a rager. It was

55:04

wild. Last

55:07

letter coming in from Ian. Along

55:09

the lines of You Must Build a Boat, I

55:11

would like to share my favorite rainy day airplane

55:13

meditation game, Duet, by Kumboius. Is

55:18

how I'm going to say that. Is

55:21

one of the best flow state games I've ever

55:23

played, and ever since I found it, I played

55:25

it on every flight. It's great putting on headphones

55:27

and totally zoning in. Oh, this game. We played

55:31

this game. Is this like

55:33

a period where I'm like, we've played this, and then

55:35

it turns out I was playing it. I don't play

55:37

any of the games on Besties. This is what we've

55:39

revealed. It came out in like 2015. Oh,

55:43

okay. So, you know, we've been doing this for

55:45

a while. You know what? Honestly, maybe

55:47

I played this when we were doing the show

55:49

like once a year. Yeah. So,

55:52

it's all blown

55:54

together. Good recommendation, though. Has

55:57

anybody else played anything? I've been playing

55:59

New Vegas. We are gonna talk about that on

56:01

resties. So I'll save all my deep New

56:04

Vegas I Saw I saw

56:06

a movie that I want to recommend Okay,

56:09

I saw the first omen Do

56:12

you know? And it was good.

56:14

Yeah, it's like the prequel to the omen and

56:16

I had no interest in seeing it I couldn't

56:18

even bother to watch a trailer for this movie

56:21

and then so that but surely people were like Check

56:24

out that first omen. He's pretty good

56:27

And then people like you gotta go check out

56:29

the first someone that means great and then finally

56:31

I was like Hey, I've got an afternoon. I've

56:33

got some childcare. I can go zone out And

56:36

damn, he was it was like really

56:39

really well made shockingly It was one

56:41

of those movies where somebody's like, you

56:43

know What I might only get

56:45

one shot to make a movie So I'm gonna

56:47

make the best possible one and hopefully it's gonna

56:49

get me a lot of opportunities Afterwards and I

56:52

hope that this director that she gets countless

56:54

opportunities because hot damn Also

56:57

has two shots in it that

56:59

I cannot believe a major studio

57:01

would include in a movie in

57:03

the year 2024 but honestly

57:06

shots that if I had seen it in a movie in the

57:08

70s, I would have been like Yowza,

57:11

I I am Distressed

57:15

well. Yeah. Yeah, I praise high

57:17

praise indeed. Yeah I

57:20

have two movies monkey man. I

57:22

saw the fear. It kicks ass if

57:25

you like Action

57:28

movies that have a lot

57:30

to say politically and are

57:33

really really exciting Lee shot and

57:36

acted defatals like Curricular

57:38

this is first directorial Film

57:41

and it is so confident and

57:43

self assured and cool and fun

57:45

and it rolls It's

57:47

great. The other movie I

57:49

watched was called late night with the

57:51

devil. Mmm this is

57:53

you guys ever heard of ghost watch

57:56

ghost watch was a BBC movie

57:58

that it was a I guess

58:00

you'd call them mockumentary, even though

58:02

it wasn't a comedy. It was like a fake documentary where

58:04

they were going inside a house looking for ghosts that aired

58:06

on the BBC and scared the crap out of people because

58:09

I thought it was, some people thought

58:11

it was like live, like it was really happening.

58:13

Late Night with the Devil is sort of inspired

58:15

by Ghostwatch. It is

58:17

a talk show, like cheesy talk show

58:19

where the host is always second

58:21

fiddle to Johnny Carson. His

58:24

ratings are down and as kind of a

58:26

rating stunt, he

58:28

has a girl who is

58:31

supposedly possessed on

58:33

the show with her, the doctor that's

58:35

been studying with her. And what you

58:38

watch is with some like archival footage,

58:42

interspliced of like behind the scenes stuff, you

58:44

basically watch the episode of the show. And

58:47

Sydney and I watched it in a dark theater at like

58:49

9 p.m., which was the

58:51

perfect vibe for it. But

58:53

really watching this show unravel and watching

58:55

a TV show kind of collapse around

58:58

the horror of what's happening is,

59:01

it's awesome. It's really, really good. If you

59:03

like scares that aren't gonna leave you with

59:05

a lot of like, I

59:07

don't know, distress, it's really

59:09

fun and exciting and great. It's

59:11

so tense. It's like I

59:14

found myself like really clenched

59:16

up. There's something about watching a

59:18

TV show and people trying to keep a

59:20

TV show going while things

59:22

are happening that are very dark and that

59:25

is like a really good tension. Yeah,

59:27

yeah. Cool, I think we did it.

59:31

I guess we didn't talk about that many games, but what

59:34

did we talk about? We talked about

59:36

the Fallout TV show and then we got

59:38

a whole bunch of games recommended to us

59:40

from Re-Listener Mail,

59:43

which are all going to

59:45

be in the newsletter at

59:47

bestuse.fan. Cool. Cool,

59:49

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1:00:12

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1:00:15

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1:00:17

would be the May episode of our Bracket

1:00:20

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1:00:22

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1:00:24

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1:00:27

more fun stuff to come. We really appreciate

1:00:29

y'all. Thanks so much. Thanks for being

1:00:31

with us. Next week, Stellar Blade,

1:00:33

is that right? That is Stellar Blade.

1:00:35

I won't be here for that. Are

1:00:37

you sure you've been both bailing on

1:00:40

us for this episode? Humdinger. We have

1:00:42

a very special guest joining us next

1:00:44

week. Thank goodness. We're going to

1:00:46

be in Chicago actually on the 25th. If

1:00:49

you're in Chicago, you can come see Taz if

1:00:51

you'd like to see. My brother may use show is

1:00:53

sold out, but we're also going to be at

1:00:55

C2E2. If you want to come out and say hi. I

1:00:58

think it's a really elaborate way of

1:01:00

not getting canceled by talking about Stellar

1:01:02

Blade. I think put a lot of

1:01:04

effort into it and I admire that.

1:01:06

And for all of my friends here,

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be sure to join us again next

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week for the best. Because shouldn't the

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world's best friends pick the world's best

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games?