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hello everybody my name is christopher

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thomas plans money was rough first act welcome

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to the rest were the best to the rest

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of the stars the best of the rest

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this week we're talking about what

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we're actually playing a twist between

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the weekly delusion new games the

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also place stuff for ourselves in

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this week we're talking about what seems

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our interests outside

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of the new video games cycle

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you know how like ninety nine percent

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of people play video games he

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seems logical so that means

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you are playing dark souls to i

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have questions about that i am

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playing called the lamb ah

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we're gonna do gonna little bit of spoilers on that

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hi know at the at

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the second segments and then we both

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played both played bit of the new teenage mutant ninja

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turtles the cowabunga collections

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though i mean that a full

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episode a full episode

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it is but before we them

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into that i had a classroom for a response

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ah you are sneakers right

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shoes yeah i i i do in

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fact wear shoes know but specifically

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sneakers yeah yeah like i i got like

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a like a tennis shoe like yeah

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i'm like a normal everyday you're not

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like trying to be fancy yeah

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who doesn't ,

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do you think there are people who are like either sandals

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or dress shoes maybe oh

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okay i , to the question

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i'd have for you is the

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are you the sort of person that with run

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shoes into the ground or

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do you like the have avant

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de souza any kind of rotate three hi

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can i ask is kind of

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bizarre the uss i literally just ran

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a pair of shoes into the ground so

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much so that you could see through

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the soul and the bottom of the issue

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right which i had never done

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that before i i

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do run them to the grounds but never quite

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literally to the point that you're like oh

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the i hear what you can see the sock

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yeah like i like what he in you can

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see like i'm like you know i can you cut open

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i like guy gob soccer

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the docker god officer the

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philo layers right wow

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the different layers of cove like plastic

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and rubber images like when they hit the

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home run in the sandlot and yet when

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i don't know how it happened like i didn't think

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i was do i i i thought everything

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was going fine and then one day you know

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i take a look and suddenly i've you know

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took on a journey to the center of my foot i

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mean you do have to walk the

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year and had is true that is thing about the

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i'll i'll do we talk about that i like to

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walk out one two hours a day of possible

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zero walker and at that point

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wonders you hours a day i you gotta be

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going through i'm going an emperor every

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year at least it's true who is

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this going anywhere in the is is is just

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about my psu habits well as i

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mentioned it because i was recently my

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wife recently made fun of me because she

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was walking behind me at one point and

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the joked about the state

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of my shoes and i hadn't really computer

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day until i took the shoes off and

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realize that once you looked relatively

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normal and the other shoe the

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sole had rubdown so much that

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he was out a slant the when

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i was walking one of my faith

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is like school slit his city

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which is probably not great so great once i

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realized that realized went bond issues that it was

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remedied but remedied do think for

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shoes but for all things in my life i

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try to really get the most out of them i

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try to like really every

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in civic cause i bought it i want to make

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the most of at an hour of that makes me a hoarder

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or white know that's good i wish

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i could be like that with technology i'm

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now we're as read thing and my

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life there's gonna be used

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way way beyond the point of

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being reasonable like i mean just

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got rid of the

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utensils that i got when

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i went to college oh my god i

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yeah i know his groceries and like their

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g shirts and i were that is bad

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because there's just a record of photos

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of me and these shirts again from

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college sir fifteen years ago

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ever i'm so in

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that little girl with then with then

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and with tech it's like an unknown that

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in a new monitor does sound pretty nice

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the surfaces i'm not were only three years

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ago but you may be another one now yeah

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it's funny to as again i feel like i

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need to make use of both tech and so

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like when i buy a new thing i really

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feel like i need to use it a lot to make use

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of it and that applies the games as well

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and part of the reasons i really tried of his games

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is gets haier i'm already pot committed to this

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game i went to like see him room and

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i know that doesn't apply to you the sunk cost

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fallacy yeah i know that they're right like

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i mean with a game nothing

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that's the nets resources riot

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i get the let my time you're right

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i was yeah we aren't you are you

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are like the last first say no to get a forty t

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v yeah it's very late in

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the process i don't know why that is but

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it was he was very way i mean i know why that

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is but my vision is not great enough this

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is different but then i got one i like

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oh yeah looks or better a i it

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the worst thing about this and that's especially

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true it's graphic a gps graphic

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cards to is ah for

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the first week is the most

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amazing thing the minute just

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turns you into a snob yeah which

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is expected it just becomes the new normal

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almost instantly yeah and now

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we that it makes lower than for case

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doesn't look a little worse yes

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and a little bit some some send them some in front of

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london ah eaten treated

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of a videogame sports do it again let's

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take a quick break and then we will talk about

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have a dark souls okay

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okay

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we're back you you

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have been at returning to darkness

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do i believe because the steam

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deck has made there's something viable

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and your any and you know me i

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i really try when i say something

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i really try to do it is

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includes when i said

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on this very podcast the games

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that i had a my backlog for when the steam

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deck would arise i mention two

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games one of them without

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or wilde any other on the dark souls

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and here i am i've already beat

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now trials and i'm playing dark

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souls to say i'm a man am i where where

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were you at where

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am i at i just finished wow

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that is gonna be deep cut for any would rather

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play the game but it's called the earth in

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keep i want to say ah ha i

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thought like a medusa looking lady

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in like a big poison swamp and there was a big

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tower i mean that names like have like

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fifty percent of all from sauce other environments

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but i want to say it feels like i'm about

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halfway i think that's

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around where i need it yeah

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i mean i don't have any aspirations they actually

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beat the game is now enough for someone

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when i do that but i mentioned i'm best

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these the servers are off and continue

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to be off for dark souls to

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on p c because some hacking

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nonsense so i am continuing

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to do this without notes which is

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really a drag because

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there are many instances in this game where

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know it's would have been extremely useful

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for are you are you like playing with little the you tube

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mean a walkthrough not my

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i don't do that but i do a look

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up like hey what orders i play this

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game in so i looked up like oh

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after you do this environment you to do this environments

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but i don't you walk throughs for like here's

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how to get through this entire area so

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what what is your take on this on because dark souls

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to with my say

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for it's until l dinner and

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yeah but i say that as as

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you pointed out somebody who only makes

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it till about halfway through every game

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they play yeah so i guess

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it before i mentioned me i went to a question

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for you when you play dark souls to

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was that the first time they from

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software souls like game

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had like what for you

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the i guess at that point stephen souls

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and dark souls want to come out and then dark souls

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to yeah in i think the reason

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it does at we may have talked about

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this on an episode the idea

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of each game and a franchise

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train you for the next one yes so

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if you play the first when a new bounce off

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you're more likely to appreciate the second one

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like that's why franchises make a lot of sense video

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games is it's not like i'm the

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movie where you every movie go to you

8:39

know the process young you don't you sit in the theater

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any watch it you know how to read that

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you type a kites and then you do not you

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know how to watch movies video games are very

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different you your to learn how to experience

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than any game like dark souls mean

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a whole the whole souls one in theories i

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think demands that and yeah

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i i think dark souls two was the first one where

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i was able to sit down and

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of appreciated on it's own terms i

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admired demon souls sir

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criminals before dark souls even came out i

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was obsessed with the idea of it i bought

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a copy and a limited edition copy of it

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when are we worked to death in our but my

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very first job and i promised

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myself that i replaced the day i got fired and

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then i got fired and immediately started freelancing

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and never got to plane if it has some

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impacts ah

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the yeah i know he was it was the first one that i got

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into yeah so

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the windowsill to came out there

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hadn't really been a source game

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that clicked for me yet and

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ah so i remember we were talking

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about her for game as year that year and

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actually one game earlier that year for what it's worth

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if you could go back and listen to that episode

9:52

whatever your that was it you'll probably

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notice that i don't talk a lot to as even

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though i did play at i probably played like three

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or four hours

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the

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obviously anyone who knows all games

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know is this three or four hours is barely

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scratching the surface and

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because it hadn't quite for me like it

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was really nothing pulling me deeper into

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it at that point but then i got very intense

10:14

dark souls three and but born and everything

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after that and since then have gone

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back and played the muscles dark souls one

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etc so dark souls to

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is the only one really the last that

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i haven't played my

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initial dot on it is

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it's so funny that you

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loved it so much because i actually

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think the beginning of this game isn't

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really gonna knock graces

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oh yes he i think from a level design

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standpoint and from like artistically

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by girl like the through a visually

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like be art design of the early

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levels are a lot weaker

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than some of the middle game and maybe late game

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stuff i'm so it kind of takes

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of takes before it starts getting interesting

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i think you see a little bit a good stuff so there's

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like hides tower flame which is pretty early

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but a lot of the stuff is like the

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lot of like gross looking

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blog textures wrapped around

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day the you know thing that supposed

11:13

to be a forest but doesn't look anything like a forest

11:15

super easy compare that to like dark

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souls which has that moment

11:20

restarted the at the campfire

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and you look up and you see this castle

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and you like tried your way up to the castle

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and then you look down and you see the campfire

11:31

that you started that like didn't dark

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souls to doesn't really have that at least not

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that i've seen are least that wow

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that is a fair bit more linear and

11:41

first half compared to i wouldn't say that

11:43

it's linear it's think that it's the

11:47

you can you have a a like a few different

11:49

opportunities like options and where to go

11:51

sleep either were directed yeah

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it's more directed that is right cause it it

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feels like he started this hub world which is

11:58

meant to learn whatever it's called

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and then from there

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if you can go in like

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four different directions and to those

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directions you're like way underpowered for

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and the other one the

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other two are like a little more reasonable

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and you can kind of easier way into it so

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i agree whereas like current

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dark dark souls i'd stumbled into

12:20

the catacombs in minute one in just got a

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great housed anyway long

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story short i think it starts a little slow

12:27

but once i understood a few things

12:29

the games that are really clicking for me the

12:31

wildest thing about arsenal said

12:35

we're going to get a little technical here but is it all

12:38

i'm ready for it on my love a good technical

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side by is such as people is

12:42

that some people listening will not and some people might

12:45

be like what the hell are you talking about so there's a thing

12:47

called the i friends our

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ally who are lining or lane i frames

12:52

i hour debate yeah i'm no actually i

12:54

wish i had some popcorn to john because i

12:56

don't fully understand i frames so

12:59

okay so i frames stand for

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i like literally took a drink of water just a

13:03

professor us because i frame

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same for invincibility frames i'm

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now and where they come into play

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in dark souls his role when

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you roll in a dark souls gamer

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really any from software game the

13:18

first let's say point

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three seconds of your role

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you are immune from damage hence

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the invincibility part of and

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the number of frames is

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how long you have your role

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you are invincible so in most

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scenarios your entire role

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you are not invincible it's usually just

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like the beginning part of your role like the first

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twenty five percent of euro and

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certain you contain certain things

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to make that invincibility period

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longer so in other souls games you can

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for example were less equipment so

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of your equipment load is lower you'll

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be immune from damage for more

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of that rope here the democrat

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yeah

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okay i i'm i will out the i will

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and the thing my piece when she

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leaves okay so that's

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how other souls games work

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is used to wear lots of armor and

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your i frames get long pretty

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straightforward

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in

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the are thought to there's a stat hard

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adaptability and

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i don't have the exact description in the game

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for wow how they described adaptability i

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think they just say like hey you do better

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and stuff what

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they don't tell you is that stat

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governs how long your i

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frames are when you roll so for

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the first five hours of me playing dark

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souls to every time i tried

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to roll through attack and attacks i would

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get hit and itself really really bad

14:48

that you know why so i have to look online

14:51

and eventually found myself on you tube

14:53

that explain that i frames adaptability

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and why it's important and what's that i should put

14:58

her that the worth noting

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this that never came back in another dark souls

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game they clearly thought it was a bad idea

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so once i got over that hump and the game

15:09

started feeling good i was able

15:11

i really get into the rest of it and like

15:14

start building character and and

15:16

feel like i had more command over the fights

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and , that happens like it's us

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all game like a feels like a soul game and

15:23

so i get all the rewarding elements

15:25

of exploration and cool

15:27

boss battles and and all that stuff

15:29

but there's some like weird ingenious

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to this souls game and protect your yeah

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that made it a little bit harder to jump into

15:36

i mean this is what is sentenced him how video

15:39

games is ireland

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artful suits him out and it was not was

15:43

well received so while receives

15:46

i'm i'm sure there's somebody is going to share metacritic

15:48

lengths that a it

15:50

will like even in the

15:52

runs on the litter i guess of

15:54

the dark souls community so it's yeah

15:56

those and

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then i remember that the issues

15:59

then wise the world building

16:02

that wasn't as oh fan

16:04

and that it wasn't folding back in its on itself

16:07

like the original dark souls but

16:09

you have to wonder how much but was

16:11

something like this right where it's less

16:13

games already opaque and

16:15

then you change something like this

16:18

like this clarified and

16:20

the game just doesn't feel right and most

16:22

people just don't know why he writes

16:25

that there's while

16:27

to me about a about this game

16:29

in all games the i frame is part

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of his of his things very

16:34

honest and about open and i'm sure i will

16:36

be again seems for this

16:38

the reason that i always bounce off these games

16:41

early on is because i

16:44

believed you had to actually dodge

16:46

the animation oh so

16:49

when like a character swing at me as

16:51

a oh i need to keep my distance ah

16:54

so the i can dodge the

16:56

at that the hand coming out me right

16:58

but weren't there moments where you dodged

17:00

and you definitely thought you should have gotten hit

17:02

but boards head i thought the game was broken

17:05

the css or timing wasn't because it was

17:07

so inconsistent to me right yes or me

17:09

as i i didn't know how does a didn't leave the

17:11

game right yeah and that

17:15

it

17:16

the old entering his made that so

17:18

much more legible to me

17:20

begins at the dodge lucky miss so generous

17:23

yes it isn't it is for while be generous

17:25

yeah it which it needs to be because i

17:28

think that the bosses are so

17:30

much more complicated did you understand

17:32

in that game that you could roll through attack immediately

17:35

i'll get in and i and i think i'd probably have understood

17:37

it before and i may mean second

17:39

their next him a point where i started to understand

17:41

sir yes but it's

17:44

new i'm i'm

17:46

not a moron i don't know on

17:48

a video game it's counterintuitive it

17:50

was yet loves to sing and wilde said that

17:52

i i'm a new is grown up

17:54

and millions who works in around williams

17:56

all these things could just fundamentally

17:58

miss reed weather the trying to tell me

18:01

one it's also one of those fun game

18:03

design tracks that makes you feel

18:06

better than your actually playing like

18:08

at the other example is like coyote time

18:10

where you run off a ledge and you get a split

18:13

second after running off the lads to hit

18:15

the jump button and you can still john like

18:17

that's i saw last thing in the number of other

18:19

judy platform as do that so there

18:21

are a lot of small tweaks good

18:24

offers make to make you feel better

18:26

than you actually are playing and

18:29

die frames is as one of the now

18:32

that's named after will edwards

18:34

coyote same young developer

18:37

chris pirate quite rom or

18:39

three doc some about team and see before

18:41

we go into the break yeah what to say one more

18:43

thing about ourselves through that i think is really really cool

18:45

that has it showed up in another dark

18:48

souls game and i kinda wish it did the

18:51

that's awesome as is weird thing i don't

18:53

know what the official term for it as family caught

18:55

torch time and this probably rings

18:57

a bell for you because i know you've played certainly enough

19:00

when you pick up torches in

19:02

most the a dark souls games you just get a torch

19:04

and you can use it for have as much as you want you

19:06

can light up rooms and whatever

19:09

are so too

19:10

you have a limited amount of time to use

19:12

a torch and every

19:15

time you pick up a towards you get five minutes added

19:17

to that timer so after you're playing

19:20

for a you been playing for a while the have a ton of

19:22

torches you might have like an hour and a half

19:24

of torso wait

19:26

why that's really cool a couple things one the lighting

19:28

and ourselves to looks amazing i think it was improved

19:31

for the rereleased which is called scholars of the

19:33

first sin said the lighting

19:35

even today by modern standards

19:37

was absolutely stunning when you're holding

19:39

a torch it's outrageous and

19:41

be it pleases that the gameplay and

19:43

really cool ways where you

19:45

know you have you have amount of towards time light

19:48

a tortured a bonfire and

19:50

, to sacrifice using your left hand

19:53

you can't put your torture way to like hold the

19:55

shield he to keep holding that towards

19:57

and eventually if you push through like

20:00

totally pitch black area you'll get

20:02

to these braziers that are placed around

20:04

them apps and light up a different areas

20:06

creating like a new checkpoint and

20:08

that towards brazier will stay

20:10

lit like forever so

20:13

you're kind of creating your own many

20:15

checkpoints in between the bonfires

20:17

and that was fucking cool and i

20:19

wanna see more games do that i love the

20:22

more than hi baby

20:24

it

20:24

no wait how is more suffered

20:27

several of us i think a short time oh

20:29

got it sir mervyn see you in a cave

20:32

yeah now worth only were being less case

20:34

you're a ah i i i

20:36

i do agree i i think

20:38

in any mechanics involving fire

20:40

and light like that want

20:43

more them as we end the era of the

20:45

race racing cold outside you go

20:47

a rare thing with or a tree think we're like

20:49

stay there's actually his

20:51

own benefits from wales i can actually tell

20:53

the difference is hop on

20:55

august seventeen the

20:58

cowabunga collection i think

21:01

the line in prison sentence the title i'm setting

21:03

right now i think it's only a kid his team

21:05

is written into turtles the carbon fungus health

21:07

services as it is i'm

21:09

created by digital eclipse published

21:12

by can army in it is a collection

21:15

of the were keen the

21:18

human t video games that

21:20

you know the window in which these games

21:22

are obese the i wanna say

21:25

this is a gas spammers say like the

21:28

first game probably came out like eighty eight

21:31

and the last game came out and probably

21:34

ninety six crash

21:37

with i cause more eighty

21:39

nine okay so he has first one

21:41

was caught lying the sorry oh

21:44

my god that's crazy with assume

21:46

that james thirteen games

21:49

basil or i mean i get it games

21:51

you know came up fast a lot of these are kind of like ports

21:53

of each other to right yeah the

21:57

skill of a lot of his adds a lot

21:59

again and if you're wondering

22:01

hey are these good games let

22:04

me remind you thirty james

22:06

the center for years i mean

22:08

if a woman or for another and some of them are

22:11

good so yeah i'm

22:13

not going to go through a very i'm gonna give you

22:15

all thirteen okay but cloud go fast

22:19

the number one teenage mutant ninja turtles

22:21

the arcade game yeah right right up top

22:23

number two turtles and time arcade

22:26

followed by a port of turtles and time

22:29

followed by manhattan project

22:31

i persona sized on a genesis now

22:33

it's time for certain highest birthday

22:37

and october in a christmas were all built

22:39

towards cyprus don't highs my

22:41

childhood i have never been more excellent

22:44

for anything in my life is and let me

22:46

tell you i put all the

22:48

eggs neurons ask all the games like

22:50

perfectly fine the you know you

22:52

you wait for anything for that long interview

22:54

black and alone chris them as of address

22:57

on my part of after that we got

22:59

see him and see to arcade and

23:01

and yes we have tournaments siders

23:03

vols the

23:04

the as an the any as version

23:06

energy

23:07

this is running a god and

23:09

then we have the gameboy games which

23:11

is that in the sewers radical rescue fall

23:13

of the foot clan and then lost then

23:15

team and team any yes

23:18

yeah woozy

23:20

lousy yeah

23:23

oh and also that includes the japanese

23:25

versions of i believe the majority

23:27

of these games man

23:30

or on

23:31

yeah that mean that that

23:33

the talk about the archiving stuff i guess yeah i mean

23:35

let's let's actually just talk about that he

23:38

says that go away or way before i

23:40

do want to say this about against yeah

23:42

i think most of them are kind

23:44

of unplayable today beyond i like a

23:46

nostalgia factor there are a couple

23:49

that i still get enjoyment

23:51

out of not necessarily from hundred thousand factors

23:54

turtles and time certainly jumps to mind is probably

23:56

the best in this question in my opinion the arcade

23:58

one on snl when not bad

24:00

either lion yeah

24:03

it is difficult is extremely

24:05

difficult you play these with

24:07

modern especially you are on

24:09

the heels of the best ninja turtle

24:12

game ever made by far by

24:14

far which is came out like a couple months

24:16

ago over there called the

24:19

game from , for cowabunga

24:21

school hunter hello from what the

24:23

game it's just me about for winning words i

24:25

was or law and order shredders

24:28

an event revenge the money's

24:30

writers are banned from dot email

24:32

right imo made it com

24:35

yeah i mean as a game this

24:37

is the now however

24:39

advertisement for shredders revenge surface

24:42

you know that as of as

24:44

worker preservation worker preservation

24:46

it going digital eclipses doing

24:48

down there probably my favorite

24:51

in it is right now in terms of these

24:54

these classic collections yeah the

24:56

way that the mercy of all of those the

24:58

the titles like i said he can switch between

25:01

the american version the japanese

25:03

version and then there's a museum feature

25:05

that is just like a nineteen nineties said

25:08

room basically we're

25:10

and where you can yeah look

25:12

at like you to for high rise

25:14

stands of the cardboard

25:16

boxes their arm cool

25:19

manuals there are a are images

25:21

from our the different tv shows over

25:23

the years or it really just

25:25

gives you the poll vibe

25:28

of this very intense

25:30

four year moment i

25:32

and which and and basically and elite

25:34

comic elite think she meant she was originally

25:36

was originally decay was the as started yet

25:38

in became this force

25:41

that i would have never counted

25:43

on it being this huge

25:45

of a thing all these years later right like

25:48

it in few things are in children's entertainment

25:50

or he said he his teenage mutant ninja turtles yeah

25:54

right that said

25:57

the best comparison like come up with for his

25:59

a

25:59

the in a brain as that's

26:02

the appeal here he is a children's

26:04

museum

26:05

we used to say it

26:07

is a lot of fun and i love

26:09

playing these games with

26:11

my child riots it

26:14

might make kinda enjoys it well enough

26:17

that at the end of a day if i gave

26:19

my choice that a choice

26:21

them out between this and like shredders

26:23

revenge or like any you know modern

26:26

theme park and the children's museum metaphor is

26:28

gonna do that right yeah like

26:31

in in i'm glad

26:32

exists on like purely an educational

26:34

level that the hallway

26:36

to learn about ah retro games

26:38

to learn about team in t i think

26:40

it's great that you know companies

26:42

are just finding this degree of preservation

26:45

that i'm like oh

26:48

so i i i i wrote the center and

26:50

are our plan because and

26:52

you want to forget it the

26:55

old movies i can watch them and still

26:57

enjoy them as the old

26:59

games i don't know i i

27:01

really struggle with going back and playing a

27:03

own game because of no

27:05

way that mechanics have evolved over the

27:07

years and i guess the comparison there is

27:10

like the new games

27:12

are so young that games in a retro

27:14

now are kind of like going back and playing silent

27:16

or watching silent movies of your money

27:18

back or i'll make you know the comparison is like

27:20

going back and watching comedy

27:22

from like the early eighties the

27:26

not in every scenario but there's a lot of comedy

27:28

from that era that like has not aged well

27:31

yes i would say that that's because the race

27:33

super has is that right yeah

27:36

that's for deeply

27:38

homophobe all but also i would say like jokes

27:41

even the ones that aren't offensive not

27:44

all humor a of i some humor age like

27:46

monty python ah holy grail

27:48

i think age is very well but not

27:51

all of the jokes you know

27:53

from every movie has remains

27:55

ever remained funny over the years cause maybe

27:57

they were like super timely and they were

27:59

make

27:59

reagan jokes or whatever and like

28:02

that doesn't land anymore yeah i know that

28:04

that makes sense i mean i guess there is i us the film

28:06

metaphor is back in the day you

28:08

know these games are made by just itty

28:10

bitty studios yeah right

28:12

and it was just a rush commercial

28:15

objects the as the com you

28:17

know i just kind of our

28:18

in hindsight i that such as a people were

28:20

making trying to make art that

28:23

let's be real i mean they were making

28:25

how are many team and she games and four years like

28:28

settlements to make money and

28:31

that that reminds me so much him again like

28:33

the nickelodeon or the silent films are as i

28:35

got on know like this ones where the

28:37

train comes out yeah yeah i'm

28:40

like we just need to get something to fill this is a

28:42

real between the world war two news

28:44

updates this lady's waving you

28:46

won't believe s is not her hands

28:48

moving at real time ladies and gentlemen

28:51

to an army

28:53

yeah i am i forgot my

28:55

it's not not the case is

28:57

great at what it sets out to be yeah

29:00

i do know i know how many people want to play

29:03

the yeah i think people

29:05

i think what will end up happening is

29:07

people will buy this it

29:10

because they have a rosy picture

29:12

yeah even i'd certainly did

29:15

well the memory of playing these games

29:17

and like what they felt like and

29:19

then you kind of start playing them and

29:22

you're right oh they're extremely stephen

29:24

dated and so that's a drag

29:27

but in addition to that you also have

29:29

this like nostalgia trip of like looking through manuals

29:31

and looking through all the ads and and

29:33

all sorts of stuff like that so i don't think it's the

29:37

failure by any means but i do think

29:40

that people are people who aren't into

29:43

experiencing retro games like people

29:45

that don't think about like mr

29:48

is in any way sooner all that stuff like that

29:50

the someone that just like wants to relive their childhood

29:53

will have a much better time just shattered

29:55

shredders revenge which really

29:57

their childhood but in a modern the

30:00

way i yeah out and i honestly

30:03

i think shredders revenge hurts the

30:06

the joy of playing these games how had

30:08

to be as i remembered really loving

30:11

arcade games that get going in and charles

30:13

and times and going back and playing

30:16

them it was much

30:18

rougher than i remembered and you know

30:20

day i don't know that just

30:22

be as that comparison now is there

30:24

and it's kinda hard to ignore it but yea

30:26

it's it's tough i think you're

30:29

right though with like the retro thing i

30:31

think when i'm realizing his the

30:33

have

30:34

last time to play games

30:37

maybe i'm just not as into retro games

30:39

as i used to be i'm especially

30:41

retro beat them up where there

30:44

there's not a lot of they are there

30:46

other than the visuals and yeah

30:49

i'd say hi and it's also a genre that

30:51

like has evolved a lot since

30:53

that era whereas if you look like

30:56

they're certainly by you can place of mario brothers

30:58

three for example or one or even

31:00

whatever performers have

31:03

changed but not that dramatically

31:05

since the super mario brothers error in terms of the

31:07

minute to minute mechanics so

31:10

i think page better i you know even strategy

31:12

games same thing a lot of like

31:14

early x com games and games

31:17

and means you can still play and have a good time

31:19

because the mechanics haven't evolved that much

31:22

but when it comes to these like when you play castle

31:24

crashers and you go back and place team

31:26

and t arcade it is a night

31:28

and day difference in terms of seal

31:31

and ah yeah it's very hard to so

31:35

very very very very very well done

31:37

then people who already think

31:39

the my idea i tell you right now

31:41

i think you're gonna like it's i think you're really gonna

31:43

lie theme will apply these are all team

31:46

and t any as games that are damn

31:48

near impossible must

31:50

leave benefit of like yeah modern

31:53

emulation tools to unwind

31:55

and things like that said i'm running for everyone

31:57

else south yeah shredders revenge

31:59

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35:11

hold on a lamb i

35:14

i'm gone back fell off the

35:16

game and , like

35:18

at right now

35:21

the prodigal son i returned yes

35:24

sir he does your laboratory am

35:26

i come back in i really

35:28

really got sucked in the am now

35:31

i have a actively beaten

35:33

it with a cab yes not

35:35

beaten the final boss oh

35:37

no i played it

35:40

too many times and

35:43

i watched the ending

35:45

yeah i can see where things go

35:48

talk about on this episode the

35:50

am i a bad gamer that's a question that

35:52

i keep asking myself was weird

35:54

about this game is it was such a cakewalk

35:57

for me off until the final

35:59

boss to the point that i went

36:01

the first time i bought the final boss i

36:04

just drove right into the attacks

36:06

and just started spamming see our because

36:08

open to that point i was so

36:10

overpowered that was a perfectly acceptable

36:13

way to take on the game sure i'm

36:15

louisa me i just flood that any time

36:17

i came across anything pretending to be difficult

36:20

in then then spike is

36:22

bizarre i mean utterly bizarre

36:25

in that the final boss before

36:27

this you'd have a boss right that was basically one

36:31

version of the boss and you could

36:33

get a whole bunch of health beforehand and

36:35

then there is even ability where

36:38

you could die in a boss fight and you can

36:40

sacrifice one of your followers to

36:42

come back and if your followers like

36:44

old and like valuable you

36:46

can get a ton of health coming back yes

36:49

so you were a guaranteed to win

36:51

basically the

36:53

final boss has

36:56

too many bosses ahead of then

36:59

there is the boss and

37:01

then the boss has to

37:04

that really kind of like three forms

37:06

okay and you

37:08

do not go into it with extra health

37:10

there is no like level proceeding it and

37:13

, can't can't can

37:15

volunteer phones here he

37:17

said sacrifice a follower

37:20

to to keep the fight the so

37:23

you go from having all of this

37:26

support basically going into a fight to

37:28

having none of it and it just turn a

37:30

and so kind of up and of the

37:32

and the fights and selves especially the very

37:34

final phase of of the boss

37:37

the kind of bullet hellish

37:39

when in a screen is full of projectiles

37:42

as saying it on steam that maybe out to do

37:44

it better without steamed acts but

37:46

there are what are the

37:48

chugging with what are oh no no no is that is it

37:50

sagging the projectiles are like a bright

37:52

yellow orange or whatever the us and

37:55

then there are spikes that come on the

37:57

ground and the ground is rad

37:59

and that the warning for the spikes like

38:01

dark red surf so the

38:03

my i could not track

38:06

oh bright yellow is danger

38:08

but also dark red on

38:10

a red ground is also danger

38:12

yes and i yeah i just i

38:14

could not position myself i know

38:17

you you mentioned this to me i

38:19

guess question a and i ask you this

38:21

overtaxed but so did you try

38:24

lowering the difficulty oh no he can

38:26

out of her son you could in i didn't

38:28

sang a recently but i thought you could

38:30

do in settings but regardless of that

38:32

settings theory shouldn't have to have you so

38:35

well in the rest the game is no reason why the final boss

38:37

would be that difficult will and i think

38:39

the game wants to break

38:41

itself i guess in a weird way

38:43

so throughout the game you can

38:45

often fast of one of your many

38:48

white into i'm getting

38:51

better weapons when you the art a right right

38:54

and there are these godly weapons

38:56

that are like almost double your attack

38:58

power one point five i don't know but

39:00

there are a lot more and everybody on

39:02

twitter has said that like oh i be that

39:04

right away fight big fight

39:06

i got flights godly weapon

39:09

right arm and i think

39:11

that is the issue that

39:13

i might be running into is that

39:15

i just don't have the rise

39:17

i've gotten the god the weapon says up

39:19

here why

39:23

so far so good i'm in

39:25

like it's not one that i am good with and

39:27

and certainly not as damaging as some

39:30

people sweet to the said that the number that they were

39:32

able to get for attack power so

39:34

it sounds like i'm might just be having bad luck

39:38

the and author being that at the game i want

39:40

to where i also think i'm just not

39:43

, well and i need to play it on on a

39:45

better on a larger monitor

39:48

monitor but yeah it's it's time of bigger but big

39:50

bummer that part that said

39:52

on top of the rest of the game oh boy

39:55

pretty good

39:56

i really enjoyed you did you

39:58

bounce off i mean i didn't

40:00

bounce off because i was actually enjoying myself

40:03

but i had too much other stuff to

40:05

play because of best these then

40:07

i haven't been able to go back to inning

40:11

usually go back i think i would like

40:13

to share with you know when you only have time cause

40:16

i got to a point where i was like i had like the whole

40:18

set up with like the outhouse and a janitor

40:20

picking a poop and my which

40:22

wasn't very good just standing there

40:24

and once you get to that once to the villages

40:27

running that's when the game really

40:29

i mean i'm i'm you know with all those types of games and real

40:31

things i

40:34

did not expect to like

40:36

my called so much going

40:39

to a people when michael yeah i like the

40:41

people my call and i like how i was running

40:43

it's okay like any decorated

40:45

it's the game does a really good

40:47

job of incentivizing you to

40:50

make a house a home yes

40:52

and and when

40:54

i started the game the first time and when

40:56

i bounce off i ,

40:58

admired the game and i like how uncomfortable

41:01

the game makes me fired

41:03

i with really

41:07

struggling with some of the things that was asked you to do

41:10

and i was always making choices that

41:13

we're not necessarily easy choice but we're maybe

41:15

a little more morley

41:18

comfortable mean i

41:21

barely i have sacrificed people that

41:23

most of the time on i'm not here given people funerals

41:25

are like helping them ascend to a higher plane me

41:28

i know i ,

41:30

a beautiful cemetery with release

41:32

on every grave that in the only

41:34

the finest graves from my fallen followers

41:38

have you revives area no

41:40

i don't i aren't you a lot of blood magic or you don't

41:42

believe the that's it i also don't

41:44

you can give your followers

41:46

showrooms to brainwash them for yeah days

41:49

and i've only done that done side

41:51

of only did it begin as that in my

41:53

head against the boss

41:56

and i felt horrible last words sir

41:58

then i did a run just to get some in

42:00

to help all of them because they got sick

42:02

from the shrooms well they say

42:04

are just a little bit of mushrooms is actually supposed

42:06

to be good for you oh they're microlensing

42:09

me as together as a problem is a i

42:11

didn't have set and setting for them ah

42:14

ah but now i i

42:16

have really is i can have taken to the world and

42:19

there i like the larger world

42:21

there's a lot more a number of

42:23

characters who show up to play that kind of the

42:27

dice game matthew yeah that are

42:29

are pretty cute there

42:31

is a gold world

42:34

as our gold area of the map for

42:36

these like city false idols that

42:38

having a smart i

42:41

think that they made a really

42:43

interesting place the hang

42:45

out which is why old because

42:48

everything about the game help

42:51

me this of i said i don't wanna be scary movie

42:53

that got us all the time that how easy this

42:56

for me to bounce up open world game like

42:58

horizon or when i'm from just like you know i

43:00

just don't wanna be here and

43:03

yet here i am like very

43:05

happy to hang out with my crew which

43:08

, guess candidates to the point of health

43:10

dept colts are some and how easy

43:13

it is to like for yet that

43:15

you are really

43:17

keeping these people here i'm

43:20

going against and will they are using them

43:24

yeah it's a weird game i

43:26

i just i love that is weird

43:28

ass game blended together animal

43:31

crossing and road likes and

43:33

then made of pretty biting critique

43:35

of religion and use

43:38

are really suit see aesthetic the

43:40

get away with all of it

43:43

the not have forgiven i don't think the games like apologizing

43:45

for any of those things i think it knows it's

43:47

if it had a grim ascetic to go with all the grim

43:49

things it's doing you a does not play yeah bids

43:52

you march i think it's it's very

43:54

biting satire i die dot

43:56

i don't think are you know certainly

43:58

not applauding nice

43:59

the

44:01

but i think it there's

44:03

a very smart job of making the medicine

44:05

get go down smoothly without feeling

44:07

like it's speechifying at you

44:10

yeah and i a nice the like it doesn't do

44:12

what i worry about from ah who isn't

44:15

devolve are published this the up where

44:17

there is some devolve or games where it's his

44:19

site the g

44:21

that doesn't have anything to say

44:24

susan cain my biggest fear with this game

44:26

was like said i don't want to game it's yes

44:28

using a cold as an aesthetic like

44:31

that sucks like i know

44:33

, i i then cousin really

44:36

scary and is

44:38

due for absolutely horrific things to people

44:40

like this people like not

44:42

get some like edgy layer of that you can

44:44

you know livery that you can point on your video

44:47

game car and the

44:49

i don't think that's this that's

44:51

this think that it the

44:54

most part make sure that is

44:56

supporting the things i have

44:58

any do and game with some

45:00

sort of conversation about or interrogation

45:03

of those ideas yeah no i

45:05

i i agree with that man

45:07

i think it's definitely one of those

45:09

games that are in to be talking lot more of as

45:12

we get into game the your territory but

45:16

yeah professor when i i i will go

45:18

back to yeah them and try to

45:20

beat it and see how much better video games i am

45:22

ah you're gonna beat it on your first

45:24

try i have no doubt no

45:27

galaxy and it's gonna be because the games as you

45:29

like oh than the mega

45:31

god weapon were you just walk

45:34

right through the boss a new sad and then you're

45:36

going robert my face yeah

45:38

it's kind of i'm just i'm so pissed are

45:41

you are you playing watching

45:43

enjoying anything else right now how

45:45

attractive i pray i don't like

45:47

i have written them

45:50

are some same

45:51

yeah it's a movie ah and

45:53

the predator movie

45:54

well that's a big spoil her by

45:58

yes it's the predator movie adam the dark about

46:00

it on his show migrating it's not have access

46:03

the hackenberg directed maybe

46:06

my favorite thriller of the

46:09

last twenty years in

46:11

ten cloverfield lane and

46:13

also directed this pray

46:17

movie which is called pray

46:19

berlitz effect way a predator movie com

46:23

sat in the late seventeen

46:25

hundreds following i'm

46:28

a native american woman

46:30

and her tribe and

46:33

guess what the predator shows up and rex

46:35

all sorts of shit

46:37

and

46:38

i've seen a lot of the predator movies

46:41

are there have been a number of them this

46:44

is really the only one that i remember seeing

46:46

that sell like

46:48

an honest sort

46:51

of i wouldn't say retried because

46:54

i think is actually handle very well but

46:56

it is it pulls a lot from the very

46:58

first predator movie which was like

47:00

one v one you know

47:02

using creativity that sort of

47:04

our match someone that is like

47:07

way more technologically advanced than

47:09

you are the ear home alone

47:11

style

47:12

and

47:13

i don't either i just found

47:15

it like beautiful and really interesting

47:18

and handled the cultural

47:20

stuff and a really interesting way

47:22

they actually shot entirely

47:26

in i

47:28

want to say apache to

47:30

was the language they actually

47:33

did a dub dub where the entire

47:35

movie was done in apache see to watch

47:37

it like that with like subtitles

47:40

i'm i didn't do that but i

47:43

don't i think they were very smart

47:45

and careful the like do a

47:47

lot of respect to the

47:50

i need american actors in this is and

47:52

their culture out while also

47:54

being like of fucking kick ass predator movie

47:57

of which we haven't had very many of those so

48:00

yeah, if you dig that stuff, it's

48:02

on hulu streaming and

48:04

definitely worth the a it's

48:06

a solid 90 minutes of

48:08

of around i

48:11

also brought a sci-fi horror film

48:13

in the same universe

48:17

you're right side in even in the has that

48:19

frame our universe wow i'm

48:22

ah alien director's cut

48:24

i saw it at a movie

48:26

theater i'd never seen the original alien

48:29

on alien large screen and

48:32

you know why pretty good i

48:34

think they're certainly scott is gonna do okay

48:36

he'll be ok and is gonna be okay

48:40

things that surprised me seeing it on

48:42

like large format

48:44

what it needs of rules like

48:47

no surprise there ah

48:49

there are people jump scares that

48:51

are still genuinely

48:53

upsetting science at is good

48:56

on the the

48:58

visual effects the gore so

49:00

works very very well i'm an alien is astounding

49:03

the alien and still the vast lives

49:05

in amorphous still the best

49:08

creature i think i've ever

49:10

seen in a movie yeah i mean just nothing

49:12

like it it is not a shot in there

49:14

that fi girl that looks like a

49:16

guy in a suit it looks so

49:18

real they are it is wild

49:21

and the final the final the of the film

49:24

where you see

49:26

the alien kind of the in a wrapped up spot

49:28

and a concealed i want to spoil it because i yeah i think

49:30

there are some people haven't seen this movie really

49:34

really upsetting am i love it

49:37

the thing that was new this time the i

49:39

remembered the art design of

49:41

this movie being amazing yup

49:44

that the you know that society

49:47

some the reno the

49:49

seventies vision other future and there's a really

49:51

clean aesthetic that are are you know

49:53

them as a surprise the at a spaceship

49:56

sir yes and what i did

49:58

it now until

50:00

athena learn screen is like that's

50:02

true it's it is very beautiful

50:05

and well designed the

50:07

author what kind of cheap at

50:09

the beginning the sets look

50:12

like hannah like they're just like ripped

50:14

off whatever the studio lot was shooting from

50:16

whatever other be features and

50:18

only just painted it kind of i

50:21

don't know like what in your

50:23

home white or ten the race

50:25

riots and

50:27

, removed like any reflective surfaces

50:29

or anything that was to gaudy and

50:32

i actually really really

50:35

really like that because the

50:38

you take a thing that was very artificial

50:40

the and then over the course the film

50:43

it just gets completely destroyed

50:45

and by the end of the sell me you're

50:47

you're no longer in this thing an artificial

50:50

environment you're in the is very

50:52

very realistic kind of factory faces

50:54

and sense and sat air sasson

50:57

yada yada yada it's very grimy very metallic

51:00

and it feels like watching

51:03

an entire era of psi phi literally

51:05

getting thrown in the garbage yeah mike

51:08

the because i in it that's i know

51:10

what happened like this movie comes out

51:12

and then after that you don't see

51:14

many have that kind of seventies

51:16

seat psi phi anymore

51:18

certain routes i fi horror and

51:21

exists pixar it's this

51:23

era of crime and gross nis

51:25

that aired into the movie summer and

51:27

city streets seventy nine i'm

51:30

what was it so we got somebody after

51:33

star wars or after star

51:35

wars okay i'm in india in

51:37

farmers is also responsible for a fair amount

51:39

of like prime ascetic my but i

51:41

would point to like luke's entire

51:44

designed as a character as like

51:46

deeply seventy fry yeah solar

51:49

you know the diversion from

51:51

his is quite quite difference

51:54

yeah there there there's so many more

51:57

things that they're doing and how they play with

52:00

one mean s of

52:03

the the world of the future and

52:05

the complete indifference and like unknowable

52:08

for that is powering it the

52:10

other examples there's a robot character in the film

52:12

that kids just completely set it up the

52:15

end the portrayal of they're

52:17

got is like a mix of like notes

52:20

do wires and then these

52:22

i semi transparent

52:25

the all like glass falls

52:28

in it is one thing that like the alien

52:30

when you see it it's so upsetting

52:33

because it's a five your

52:36

understanding of how things could possibly be

52:38

ride it out of five something completely

52:41

alien to yeah completely foreign to you

52:43

yeah and like that idea of like yes

52:45

you are aren't shops and official with

52:48

an alien but also the

52:51

your own people are your own you know support

52:53

system is also that that

52:56

is i think the horror that really hit me this time

52:59

jobs like oh shit being out there were

53:01

you you truly can't trust anything

53:04

would be just so so so scary

53:07

it's interesting cause of two movies prayer

53:09

a predator an alien are

53:11

structurally very similar

53:13

a one another totally

53:16

the most different thing honey cause

53:19

they also both of them start with like

53:21

a group of people in a situation

53:23

where this is overpowered being who is

53:25

basically picking off one by one and

53:27

eventually ends up in out for a one be one

53:30

battle royale situation and

53:33

earlier is like basically a rocky

53:35

movies right you're fighting an

53:37

alien and alien

53:40

is yeah i mean

53:42

like basically like very

53:45

cold dark

53:46

like a

53:48

the now not not phrase

53:50

or teams by damn when

53:53

jason my life yes

53:55

michael myers is i finally following

53:57

it's like i'm always at hand i

54:00

mean i would say without the like have a without

54:02

the like joe campiness yeah

54:04

i mean they both sick of the summer idea of right you

54:06

know this group of people the newer after face off

54:08

against the big bad yeah

54:11

i think alien is like capitalism

54:14

my hip like oh either as is i get him shocking

54:17

how much it's just alien is really

54:19

hey these are all went to people who are on contract

54:21

on a minute ship in

54:24

and they literally find out oh

54:26

you're not going to get paid if you don't go investigate

54:29

this day well in our but it's funny

54:31

says predator is actually the same

54:33

thing but it's about like government bureaucracy

54:36

yeah so that's always a liar yes

54:38

vote but what i'd say with predator is

54:40

predator is about light what

54:43

if it hafez dunes on the planet

54:46

we're suddenly champs yeah right

54:49

like what what happens when the world's toughest

54:51

dude sexist becomes a prey

54:53

yeah and like that such

54:55

a cool i mean

54:57

i yeah i love both these me three different reasons

55:00

that is such a cool premise especially

55:02

in the eighties to just realized yeah

55:05

we're going to make a movie about how all these acts

55:07

and sars the eighties or actually just like facts

55:09

and me waiting to get obliterated the us

55:12

army yeah movies

55:14

you know they roar out some a number

55:16

of people have sent me

55:18

the

55:19

update on the steam deck with

55:21

criterion channel thing added to it so

55:24

one is so i just wanna say there

55:27

is nothing wrong with watching

55:29

criterion movies the same

55:31

deck out of seven twenty p screen know

55:34

media is like a lot of should

55:36

you watch it like the most beautiful visuals

55:39

stunning movie it's us citizen cannot

55:41

seemed like now i will do

55:43

that when was raging bull on it but

55:45

a lot of old movies for six

55:47

swedish tell the million they look nice

55:50

that like that's not entirely the point

55:52

and you should just watch old movies wherever

55:55

you're comfortable washington's there's such a barrier

55:58

to entry for this stuff i will

55:59

love love love love love watching

56:02

classic and art movies on

56:04

my i pad because it's

56:06

high it's just that right

56:09

i can sit bad the lights are

56:11

off there's no distractions and

56:13

it's just like i'm headphones or on the

56:15

and i'm and

56:18

inches away from the screen or whatever and i'm

56:20

unlocked in where i often

56:22

find that if i try to watch your yo a slow

56:24

are a movie in the living room with

56:27

a nice tv how i'm supposed to watch it

56:29

then i'll then i'll off because my

56:31

head to start going other places so yeah i

56:33

don't i like i'm glad it's there i think

56:36

that's a perfectly fine place for it to be and

56:38

you could pay you know x

56:40

box picture in picture while you're watching system

56:42

came from a alleged you know

56:44

exactly as orson wanted

56:47

it to the yeah the

56:50

ah i and i also

56:52

should sat here i have not actually

56:54

seen on seems so this is a some photo

56:57

shop of somebody adding at this is

56:59

the that would have a lot of surprise me from

57:02

the , otherwise you could pop a browser

57:04

and oh yeah i'm say that that's probably

57:06

more likely when is that you to by trade

57:08

it inside of the linux you know just

57:10

stop the and make your own version of

57:12

it it that

57:15

sits on saturday we gonna talk about immortality

57:17

may want to talk about that at the end of year because

57:19

i was it is like the most chris play a game

57:22

i think i've ever places i

57:24

places , in his yes i

57:27

are on the usual here's a here's the deal because

57:29

our i actually do you want to talk about it so what do we

57:31

say the next rest these by

57:33

then i'm sure you'll have played more

57:36

and will dedicate like a be segments

57:38

to immortality okay there's a lot

57:40

more to say about that game i'm serious be as

57:42

i have not been like a huge fan of others

57:45

and barlow games and things are bad

57:47

i just haven't seen as the not as an asshole

57:50

involved with oh the

57:52

film it so interested

57:54

in like seventies and eighties and

57:56

nineties cinema that i'd

57:59

really it is i'm not saying that

58:01

you'll love it but at the very it's scratches

58:03

a chris plante itch that exists deep

58:05

within you and i can see right let's

58:12

for bowen it cool that's

58:14

it this has been another episode of

58:16

the rest you she is rush fresh

58:19

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58:21

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58:26

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