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bus out old over while playing and

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thinking and talking about this game they

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were doing? I now rails Volvo work

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Borderlands Band is the one that I

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right now as the Borderlands nightmare

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band memory serves. you guys emerge

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as far as I am now.

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the head you like but cage

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the elephant cage. The elephant plows

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fairly far off the Asher. And.

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lot of can I start? Fresh start Fresh start.

0:39

We need to decide. Not new new, let new

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intro. Just. The and Griffin you

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guys the era when on airplanes how you

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feel better points your any material. Fuckin

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really. Ross He got a tight

0:50

five on airplanes. I.

0:52

Got my first. First. Class

0:55

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0:59

Think she's not here to l journal fail.

1:01

I have a lot of the first class

1:03

I was traveling or myself. that's I think

1:05

I'll usually they only do it to people

1:08

who travel by themselves. They don't provide a

1:10

link families up with assertive like class battle.

1:12

That's not true. I've seen a home alone.

1:15

Ah, That's true. yeah and have an inherent

1:17

set Know what about know is or back

1:19

awful. Awful. Parents Awful. I

1:21

don't hold myself up on a pedestal or

1:23

anything like that. but you my success rate

1:26

at getting all my kids to go to

1:28

the places where I'm trying to go to

1:30

with them. Between these places and is beautiful

1:32

country of ours is one hundred present. I

1:35

had no homes alone I'd I don't think

1:37

that's what makes them bad parents. Me as

1:39

like Kevin maybe was intentional. I think we

1:41

can all be a little honest that Kevin

1:44

was a little bit of a poindexter. And.

1:46

Maybe they wanted to leave in mind. Why?

1:48

Are they bad parents? because they have

1:51

like thirty thousand kids and they leave

1:53

all the random stranger adults in in

1:55

than in the general seating area to

1:57

take care of their kids while there.

2:00

Right? Drink and champagne. We don't have

2:02

that many assault. Now I disagree with

2:04

he I loved the movie. I love

2:06

the movement putting that in Coach Let

2:08

the kids learn. Yeah I wrote in

2:10

coats I'm a warm with the dad

2:12

Let the kids learn They actually I've

2:14

written in first class of for with

2:16

kids because of accidents that have happened

2:19

with the upgrade systems. And let me

2:21

tell you folks. At

2:23

all. Now they don't get it. From

2:26

a leg room standpoint, the coat or class

2:28

to them down, that's what are the kids

2:31

get? A daughter blades? They cannot wait. To

2:34

go awry again. I

2:38

now ranch farm and. Center

2:42

for. Disease

2:46

they wanted. Catherine O'hara for a bird

2:48

would see what I'd I'd say and

2:50

I don't know. Maybe me kids can't

2:53

wait for trial again. That.

2:57

Would have been a better home alone. Zags

2:59

a sous vide twelve and see what. Heard

3:03

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3:06

as die by no matter what

3:08

time. Is to

3:10

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3:35

that we can he has remarried of

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esteem of the name is to throw

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down ascent nine of the best game

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3:46

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3:48

latest and greatest in home interactive entertainment.

3:50

It as a videogame club. And

3:53

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3:57

we're going to be talking about a new

3:59

release Called No Rest for the

4:01

Wicked, but Chris Plant, what is that?

4:04

No Rest for the Wicked is an

4:06

action RPG from the same developer that

4:08

made Ori and the Blank Forest games.

4:12

Blind Forest? Do you want the other one? Blind Forest.

4:14

Yeah. Will of the Wisp. Oh, it's

4:16

not Will of the Forest. Okay, yeah. And the Will

4:18

of the Forest. And that was a little cuter with

4:20

their titles. But this time,

4:22

they're making an action RPG that they want

4:25

to be making for like the next decade.

4:27

This is their Lord of the Rings, and

4:29

this action RPG plays a little bit like

4:31

Dark Souls and a little bit like

4:33

Diablo and a little bit like what

4:36

the hell I have not played anything quite like

4:38

this before. Animal Crossing. And Animal Crossing. And a

4:40

lot like Animal Crossing. These are just Larry, it's

4:43

Tetris, it's got them all. They

4:45

just want to find blood. We'll talk about that.

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6:02

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6:24

the basics and go from there. For

6:27

one thing. I

6:30

figured out how to cut it off. Let's

6:33

go behind the music real quick. Sure.

6:36

Some of us have activated on

6:38

our computers. Oh, you did it

6:40

intentionally? Virtual emojis. I believe

6:42

it's an Apple feature. It is. If

6:45

you do a certain hand gesture sometimes it'll put up a special

6:47

effect on the screen. So sometimes we'll be

6:49

talking about stuff and then balloons

6:51

will just appear from the ether. Chris,

6:54

I don't think you have balloon magic. I've only seen it from

6:56

Justin and Brad. None

6:59

of us are professionals enough to not break.

7:01

It's so distracting. It's hugely distracting. It's so

7:04

hugely distracting. So what's really funny

7:06

is first of all I learned how to

7:08

turn it off. So well done me. And

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secondly I've been on very important business calls

7:12

and very inopportune times balloons

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appeared. Very. I've been on them

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too. It was not ideal. Alright.

7:20

Anyway. Let's get out of

7:22

the way one sort of like admission

7:25

which is and maybe this isn't so

7:27

true as much as it was back

7:29

in like the mid 20 teens but

7:31

the like it's like Dark Souls comparison

7:33

I feel like carries so little water

7:35

now because it's been used so many

7:37

times. Yeah. I do. I

7:39

think in this case it does. I think in this case

7:41

it is only because it helps

7:44

to sort of differentiate it from the other

7:47

big comparison that people make to every ARPG

7:49

ever made which is it's like Diablo. And

7:53

I genuinely think my

7:55

experience with this game was

7:59

turned on its. ear by

8:01

expectation setting.

8:03

Because I went into it expecting

8:06

a Diablo game or a... Oh god,

8:10

what's the other big one? Not

8:12

Pillars of Eternity, that's the C-F-G.

8:15

Torchlight? Torchlight is one of

8:17

the... This game

8:19

really puts into stark contrast the fact that

8:21

a lot of games in this genre really

8:24

feel a lot like Diablo. Like, really,

8:26

really wicked a lot of people feel

8:28

like Diablo. And this

8:30

game doesn't even a little bit

8:32

at all, despite the fact that it is of the

8:36

same perspective and it has loot. It has

8:38

loot. It has loot. And

8:40

it's in the same perspective. It's an isometric action

8:43

RPG. So I understand the instinct but the

8:45

second you play a minute of it, you

8:47

realize it's a very different thing. There's

8:50

actually... See, this whole thing

8:52

is interesting because I actually

8:55

kind of feel like other

8:57

than difficulty, there's not as much

8:59

of the DNA in there from a

9:02

gameplay perspective. If you look at the

9:04

nuts and bolts, a lot of

9:06

the teachings that Souls likes,

9:08

if you want to say that, have taken away

9:10

from Souls are not present in this game. It's

9:12

hard but it's structured very differently.

9:14

For instance, grinding is not really a

9:17

thing. Once you kill all the enemies,

9:19

they're all killed. When

9:21

I was up against the first boss and

9:23

I would reenter the areas where I dug, they are

9:25

completely cleaned out. I couldn't level up further. And

9:29

the resources were also yaxed. Like I had

9:31

doubt on the resources. And

9:33

there's no sense of returning to

9:36

your death spot for any reason. Which

9:38

I feel like is a huge soul

9:40

element. Before we get too much further,

9:42

how about we lay some groundwork of

9:45

what the game actually is.

9:47

I feel like though what we are...

9:49

That is what we're... It looks like a Diablo but

9:52

it's a lot harder than a Diablo. Yeah, I

9:54

guess what I would say that makes us different

9:56

is it is an action RPG. You make your

9:58

character. can

10:00

assign skill points to different things

10:03

like health or your

10:05

carrying load or your magic. That's very

10:07

soul-like. And

10:10

then you go into this world and where

10:12

the combat feels both like and dislike souls

10:15

is, rather than Diablo

10:17

where it's like swarms of enemies and

10:19

it's like a power fantasy, you'll come

10:21

across maybe like one to three enemies

10:24

and it's about patience. It is about letting

10:26

them come at you with a certain attack

10:28

using a parry or a shield and

10:31

then going back against them and kind of

10:33

taking turns with the enemy relaying attack.

10:36

Managing stamina, parrying, doing a lot of very thoughtful,

10:38

very sort of slow but considered combat. Right.

10:48

That's the souls part that really clicks

10:50

for me, Justin. That combat

10:53

is so much slower and more methodical than you would

10:55

see in a Diablo. And

10:57

that sort of experience really has only

10:59

appeared in those sorts of souls-likes. This

11:03

feels more soulsy than a game that I

11:05

think we also call the souls-like, which was

11:07

Tunic, which has flat healing flasks and has

11:09

save points and stuff like that. But

11:12

the combat here is way more

11:14

intentional. I found the

11:16

perspective shift and the way they wanted you

11:19

to fight actually almost

11:21

like tough on a physical level, because

11:24

my brain didn't want to connect. You've

11:27

been playing Diablo, this exact Diablo-type

11:29

thing, so long that there's something

11:31

about being in that perspective. Now,

11:34

part of it is this is Early Access and they

11:36

are not – and that's kind of a separate conversation,

11:38

but right now the game

11:40

doesn't do a very good job at all of

11:43

differentiating how you should play this

11:46

differently from a game

11:48

that normally looks like this, which

11:50

I think is something they can obviously improve. But

11:53

it took a really long time before I

11:55

could make myself slow down in that perspective.

11:57

Right. what

12:00

this most is,

12:02

and I said this, I think the

12:04

griffin offline, I said this is what

12:06

I wanted from Diablo, which is make

12:09

me care about each combat encounter in

12:11

ways that Diablo does not. Diablo, as

12:13

Plant said, hordes of enemies, you're

12:16

killing dozens of guys at once,

12:18

and here I am like really thinking

12:20

about, oh there's this guy here and

12:22

he's throwing fireball grenades at me, and

12:24

then there's another guy with a giant

12:26

spear that's attacking from the side, how

12:28

can I get the advantage in this

12:30

situation? Yeah, for me the like trademark

12:32

of a Souls game is the fact

12:34

that if you take your

12:37

eye off the ball and

12:39

you disrespect just

12:41

bog-standard swordsman enemy that you would run

12:43

across a million times in any other

12:46

game, they'll fucking lay you out. You

12:48

will get killed, and it's happened to

12:50

me many many times where I've just

12:52

run into a combat encounter like, yep,

12:54

here we go slam dunk, and I

12:57

get put in the fucking ground because

12:59

I completely I just, it's

13:01

usually after you upgrade something. Yeah, if you upgrade

13:04

your sword and you're like guess who's

13:06

back, they're like oh, it's still you and they punch you

13:08

in the nose and you

13:10

die. Yeah, this game is

13:13

punishing. This game is punishing in a

13:15

lot of ways that even Souls games

13:17

I feel like aren't quite punishing,

13:19

and if I'm being completely honest, don't know

13:21

how I feel about that because

13:24

it is, I don't know, the Souls games at least have

13:26

that loop of like die, oh I

13:28

got fucked up, I'll go grind for a bit,

13:30

maybe find some new items but like ultimately the

13:33

cost of dying is like okay, I might lose

13:35

the experience that I gained if I

13:37

can't get back to my body, and in here it's like

13:40

there's no Estus Flask, your

13:43

healing items are limited, it's food that you

13:45

have to cook by gathering resources in the

13:47

environment, so there's this feeling of like okay,

13:49

I don't have actually infinite chances at this.

13:51

You're also, you have degradation of your equipment

13:53

that you then have to like go back

13:55

to town and repair, and so like if

13:57

you go into a boss fight and you

14:00

get killed a lot of times, all

14:02

of a sudden that boss fight carries with

14:04

it like a financial burden that is not

14:06

a great feeling. Like

14:11

I get that it intensifies the like stakes.

14:14

And so I understand why the choice was

14:16

made. But I don't know, I am, I

14:18

think this is a very cool game that does a lot of

14:21

really cool new stuff. And the way they have fused this, these

14:24

two genres are, is really interesting, but

14:26

I'm really having trouble getting my brain

14:28

out of these two separate modes that

14:31

it has sort of conjured up into

14:33

this, into this new kind of thing

14:36

that they're, that they're making. I am on

14:38

the same page with this game is an early

14:40

access. We should also emphasize it's just like the

14:42

first chapter. And my

14:45

opinion of it feels very early

14:47

access because Griffin, I

14:49

think you said even before the show

14:51

is you have to deprogram yourself when

14:54

playing this game. And yeah,

14:56

there's the Diablo deprogramming, but there's also the

14:58

Dark Souls of it all, which the combat

15:01

works for me. What feels

15:03

really strange to me, and I haven't

15:06

enjoyed and maybe my opinion of

15:08

this will change is having

15:10

to make calculated choices in a

15:13

Souls like which is there are five

15:15

routes I can go, I can look

15:17

at the horizon and kind of gauge.

15:19

Hey, that looks really dangerous. Hey, this

15:21

looks less dangerous. Hey, here's I have

15:23

an idea of where the next campment

15:25

is. In this game, you can

15:27

see about 10 feet in front of you. And

15:30

that makes it really hard at any

15:32

time to gauge. Do

15:35

I want to take a risk? And some of

15:37

those are like, that's kind of the point is

15:39

like, hey, it looks like a dark woods area.

15:41

Do I do I really want to go out

15:43

in there and see what I can find that

15:45

I get? Right. What I like

15:47

less is, hey, this is like a little

15:49

clip that I can hop off of. Yeah,

15:52

it's going to be an instant death. Or Is this

15:54

going to take me to a secret? And It really

15:56

wants you to explore or is it going to take

15:58

me back to a place I was? Hen minutes

16:00

ago and now of a sudden I have

16:02

to try and and you don't have camera

16:04

control yet I can we get so you

16:06

do have a map that like automatically fills

16:08

our as you go but it is the

16:11

world is so dance and vertically like yeah

16:13

stacked that as that map is yeah on

16:15

especially parts and what those are the worst

16:17

example of this which he would never do

16:19

in real life Water you can swim in

16:21

this game. Be. You don't know

16:23

where the shoreline is you. It

16:25

never is. Mister Smith right? Worried

16:27

over. The sharing to like know Nintendo's at

16:29

all the great a guy see a thing or

16:32

their i'm. At Go Get That and

16:34

it reads his old man talk but

16:36

reminded me of the first level of

16:38

toads. Yemen are all weird. Try to

16:41

get to the secret I'm plus my

16:43

swimming is why is a good except

16:45

for I just died every time. Getting

16:48

around the world is the worst part

16:50

of this experience for me. I'd I'm

16:52

already not super strong on navigation and

16:55

it is intentionally labyrinthine in a way

16:57

that I sound really frustrating when they're

16:59

not replicating the enemies. The. Enemies

17:01

are finite right? You kill them and

17:03

you're done financing. They come back at

17:05

various you this interview eight point? yeah

17:07

I know yes but like edit a

17:09

point where early on were on that

17:12

first segment where you're trying to just

17:14

like get a foothold. Yeah yeah like.

17:16

The. And finding your way around

17:18

the environments is like it sucks. It's

17:21

so like dance and hard to navigate

17:23

and like intentionally. Like. Obfuscating. Like

17:25

now they made a souls map basically.

17:27

but they idolize exams Hamra of of

17:29

a diablo. Yeah, yeah, and this is

17:31

the kind of saying where it's like.

17:34

Hot. You guys you. I.

17:36

Don't know as the challenges intense or not

17:38

and this is was either really tricky when

17:41

I was thinking about with like do in

17:43

early access. Really? Hard

17:45

game. Is tough right? because

17:47

I sound nooks and crannies in the

17:49

map that I sell down into. Well.

17:52

Which is it? Do. You want this to

17:54

be a tough experience where you want me to

17:56

explore thoroughly to get everything. Or.

17:59

Can you not with. that is if not then

18:01

badges his forehead. Really very little of that

18:03

for me to in a in a game

18:05

this yard a lot of his honor This

18:07

salinger into. Not. Immediately be like well

18:09

okay if you don't have zero If you are going

18:11

to respect the tremendous amount of time that I feel

18:14

like you are asking. To. Get into

18:16

this. I feel like we're being like universally pretty

18:18

negative. I do think I love a hard game.

18:20

I love a punishing game like I love all

18:22

the souls. Games have been several more times I

18:24

can count like I love this sets and. Where.

18:27

The steam does succeed in Diablo

18:29

when you find like. A.

18:33

Legendary item or something like that. It's like

18:35

ah cool a legendary item that's gonna

18:37

like help me make some bill that's gonna

18:39

that's gonna be great in this game when

18:41

you find like a really good items it's

18:44

like saying my right leg. Or

18:47

is genuinely reeling and transform it

18:49

is Op. It does suck that

18:51

there's no respect option which is

18:54

like. Not. White I'll find it

18:56

relied on be like lambs. I wish I have.

18:58

I was Alice's the I got a sword. That.

19:00

Was that I needed so bad that the

19:02

I took off my pants to uses his

19:05

stop wearing path to the incumbent system is

19:07

stupid it doesn't make sense. like was a

19:09

mess pants that weighed three times as much

19:11

as a rail by they are wet they're

19:13

wet wet mess pants mess I love mess

19:16

you've gotten your mess pants were before juice

19:18

they got so high voice yeah I could

19:20

by allah wants and size of my head

19:22

because like so many use the sword. Yeah.

19:25

Saudis dollars compared to loot system and

19:27

progression and like all of that stuff

19:29

of this game is like airtight I

19:32

think it's great and the attic become

19:34

at is often become a fucking phenomenal

19:36

I is also to proper it looks

19:38

so religious it i was added experience

19:40

some slowdown yeah even on my my

19:43

my main piece in autism see back

19:45

like I'm i'm a busy man things

19:47

hello busy eyes her some slowdown in

19:49

and that was all we're but like

19:52

the cinematic and the all that others

19:54

like the look. and are utterly one hundred

19:56

and five the style is like us is

19:58

it a motion com it in a way

20:00

but like dishonored with what arcane did where

20:02

they are came is what I oh well

20:04

I think it's the TV the League of

20:06

Legends TV show like that is to me is

20:09

kind of what it looks at but no

20:11

I mean it looks it literally gets overused

20:13

but that's like yeah an incredible voice acting

20:15

and the story the writing well we're all like

20:17

really really really good there's a lot that

20:19

this game does that is like firing on

20:21

all cylinders for me and I feel like

20:23

this is a case of early access

20:25

where I am like kind of optimistic because I

20:27

think they can do some

20:30

stuff do some tweaking to these elements

20:33

that for me just feel like needlessly

20:35

punishing and put me off from

20:37

wanting to invest myself in this game and

20:40

wanting to like get good at this game

20:42

because I feel like there is

20:44

a reality in which like it

20:46

can't happen because of XYRC I run out of

20:48

resources I run out of healing items I whatever

20:52

I can I spec the wrong way and I

20:54

feel like I'm stuck like there's certain things that

20:56

I feel like the souls games have kind of

20:59

figured out at this point so like

21:01

that stuff seems doable and if it if they can I

21:03

don't know I feel like there is a version of this game that I

21:05

get really fucking into the

21:07

challenge for them is going to be

21:10

what advice and what feedback do you

21:12

take and what don't you but

21:14

a lot of what we're saying could be totally

21:16

wrong they know the game better than anybody yeah

21:18

like there are definitely things even with games it

21:20

shipped you know the original Demon Souls where there

21:22

were people who didn't get it it takes time

21:25

for people to write new ideas so

21:27

I I think they have a real challenge ahead

21:29

of themselves for the reason I'm

21:31

feeling here's the example is I think everyone's

21:33

response is well fuck the food healing thing

21:36

just give them s s flasks but

21:38

the game is designed to not have

21:40

enemies respond and if you have infinite s

21:42

s laughs every time you respond you're basically

21:45

just grinding your way to eventual victory until

21:47

you get to a boss yeah so

21:49

there are design things that they would need

21:51

to dramatically change about the game yeah to

21:53

add something is simple quote simple yeah

21:55

I think it's simple but yeah yeah I

21:58

also think they make enough different

22:00

choices from both of

22:02

the sort of things that they're

22:04

pulling from that they are definitely

22:06

up against a ingrained, like

22:09

learning curve and power arc that

22:11

I recognize from both of these

22:13

genres, right that I was. Griffin

22:17

said it and I think it's so key. This is

22:19

one of the kind of games that I'm really glad

22:21

we can talk about because I really do think it's

22:24

an expectation setting thing. If you

22:26

go in with a really open mind, I think

22:29

you're going to have a much in, not make assumptions. I

22:31

think you're going to have an easier time of it if

22:33

you just take it at face value. Because

22:36

once I did that and stopped expecting it to fit

22:38

into like the molds I was looking for, I enjoyed

22:41

it a lot more. I

22:43

did want to add, we were talking about

22:45

performance and stuff. I do

22:48

wish it worked better on Steam Deck because this

22:50

seems like the kind of game that I would

22:53

play a lot. Like if I

22:55

could take this on the road with me,

22:57

it would be great. But there were like

22:59

constant performance issues and also just straight up

23:01

hard crashes on my Steam Deck. Interesting. Yeah,

23:03

I didn't have that. I ran it at

23:05

40 FPS on Steam Deck and it's not

23:07

like as pretty as it is on a

23:09

PC. I can deal with that.

23:11

What I can't deal with is like

23:13

a crash in a game where you

23:16

have been killing yourself to

23:18

make progress and then lose it. In their

23:20

defense, as far as I'm aware, it is

23:22

not anywhere listed. No, not

23:24

at all. This is not a

23:26

case of false advertising. It is a case of like, man,

23:28

I don't know, if I had this one on the go, I

23:30

feel like I'm really into it. It does feel very much that

23:32

kind of game. I just like it because there is no comparative

23:35

for this game. Even though we've referenced a lot

23:37

of other genres and a lot of things that

23:40

it pulls from, there's no game in this style

23:42

and this perspective that has this combat flow. Scott,

23:44

will you correct me and say I'm wrong? Wait,

23:46

wait, wait. I'm not going to say wrong. I'm

23:48

just saying there's a comparative that you said earlier

23:50

that people thought was probably a joke and

23:53

isn't, which is animal problem. Oh.

23:57

Explain yourself. Well, I... I

24:00

would say we haven't really talked about it,

24:02

but once you get to the main city in

24:04

the game, there

24:06

is actually a full-on city

24:08

building aspect where you're upgrading

24:10

vendors and building furniture to

24:12

have more chests and things

24:14

like that. So yeah.

24:17

I'm not a big fan of the

24:19

farming materials in these games, I find

24:22

it tedious. Yeah, I didn't like it

24:24

here either, quite honestly. I get how

24:26

this would get me a little

24:28

more interested in it in a long term. The

24:30

one that got me, and I gotta

24:33

admit, this is a broken, this is

24:35

broken. Sure. It's bad. Don't be like

24:37

me. But the first time that I

24:39

had to wander up from, there's like

24:41

a market area in the city, and then you

24:43

wander up this fucking insane pathway of stairs back

24:45

and forth and up, then you get to your

24:48

house, and then it's like, well, time to go

24:50

back to the market. Oh God. Okay,

24:53

walk back down, go turn around, blah, blah, blah.

24:55

And then at the bottom of this staircase is

24:57

a dude who's like, give

24:59

me some fucking copper, I'll make you stairs right to your room,

25:01

pal. You just made

25:04

a problem and then made me desperate. This

25:06

is all I wanna do now, is get

25:08

these stairs built. That's mean, that's a mean

25:10

thing to do. I cannot wait

25:12

to talk about the game I have for y'all in

25:14

the fee segment. Hell yeah, man. Let's do it. Okay,

25:16

let's do it. No Rest for the Wicked

25:18

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25:20

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27:56

you were excited to talk to us in the B-segment about

27:58

something. What do you got on your mind? What

28:01

if I told you, I want you to close

28:03

your eyes and picture this, I can see you. I

28:05

mean you've talked about this game before so. Just let me

28:07

do my thing. Okay do your thing. God

28:12

dap. It's centuries ago. You're

28:14

in a nunnery and you're a nun. It's

28:18

beautiful, it's cold and

28:20

you need to fetch a pail of

28:22

water from the well and you need to

28:25

drop the pail into the well and you need to

28:27

lower it and then you need to fill it with

28:29

water and then you need to pull it back up

28:32

and then you need to walk that pail over

28:34

to a bucket and pour that water in the

28:36

bucket and then you need to do this

28:38

four more times. Welcome everybody

28:40

it's Indica. We're finally here,

28:43

game of the year, Indica.

28:45

Nun time. You're gonna be getting

28:47

water. You're gonna be repenting. You

28:50

are gonna be doing the rosary so

28:52

hard that you've got blood coming out

28:54

of your hands. We are so back.

28:58

Hey. sentiment era eagle body. I was

29:00

gonna say it's a grand catholic hour.

29:02

We're doing it baby. What did Chris

29:04

plant, I was out of the loop,

29:06

what did Chris plant trade to us

29:09

to allow for this to be our

29:11

base segment? I did

29:13

not see our rundown before this and it's like

29:15

there's just a little picture of an apple

29:17

crate and Chris on top of it.

29:19

It's just Chris's apple crate. He's on

29:21

top of it. He's out in the

29:24

town square spouting about. This

29:26

is religious. He's going in

29:28

so sick. Okay so

29:30

here's. It's not sick. I can

29:33

guarantee you. It is

29:35

in the most literal sense sick. Here's

29:38

how it works. You're your Indica. You're a

29:40

nun right? And you're in Russia.

29:42

You're fetching your pale water. You're a

29:44

prodica. And you have

29:47

a narrator who's like Indica woke up this morning

29:49

and it was important for her to do her

29:51

menial tasks because that reminded her of her faith.

29:53

But as this is going on the

29:55

voice is like kind of rude. Not like

29:58

full on valve rude but like kind of. a

30:00

shitty and you start to realize oh

30:02

she hears this this

30:04

is not for the game

30:06

this is she hears this

30:09

hey no more I am

30:11

down and when she's

30:13

like trying to just get by in the

30:15

church and not you know look like a

30:17

witch or something who's gonna get killed it

30:20

reveals itself more so she's like

30:22

taking communion and as she's doing

30:24

it the priest is offering her

30:26

the communion wafer and his mouth

30:28

opens and a little man in

30:30

a little puffy costume comes out

30:32

dances down his arm and then

30:34

tries to like crawl into her

30:36

face and she like obviously freaks

30:38

out they're like yo indica you gotta stop it

30:40

we'll probably have to burn you alive if you

30:43

keep doing this sort of stuff you

30:45

little sicko and

30:47

then she eventually meets a

30:50

man who is also on the run

30:52

who believes that he has god in

30:54

his head so she thinks that

30:56

she has effectively the devil in her head he

30:58

thinks he has god in his head and they

31:00

need to go on a little adventure it's a

31:02

buddy comedy through the winter that

31:06

does sound that's a great pitch I mean you

31:08

started off and maybe the least interesting aspect of

31:10

it so well done how do you know me

31:12

that you know might be about the pale for

31:14

a while you know that's that's the game well

31:16

that likes to bring us down and that's exactly

31:18

exactly well and that's what

31:20

the game does it like starts the the the

31:23

way that this game looks it looks

31:25

like a movie in the best sense I know a

31:28

lot of games look like movies no this looks like

31:30

people who know how to like place a camera it's

31:32

a bold idea like you like a good angle

31:34

over here they're just using different lenses in a

31:37

video game wild idea turns out you know fish

31:39

eye lens or you know that the lens and

31:41

horror movies where the camera's like strapped to the

31:43

person's neck and it's all looking in their face

31:46

a lot of that real creepy stuff

31:49

um wait what how does the game actually

31:51

play it's a third person so it is

31:53

a third person honestly like story game it's

31:55

a lot of like going from place to

31:57

place and then there are environmental puzzles that

31:59

become increasingly strange. I

32:01

don't want to like go too

32:03

much into like where it goes,

32:07

but I would say that reality decomposes

32:10

in certain ways. Is this one of those

32:12

like short like five hours, six hours? Yeah,

32:14

I can't imagine it's more than six hours

32:16

because I am probably four hours

32:19

in and I- There's a skill tree? Okay,

32:22

so there is a skill tree in

32:24

it and there are points and when

32:26

you get like when you like light

32:29

a votive candle, a little like

32:31

gold coin appears and it's like, and then you

32:33

can upgrade your skills. But

32:36

every load screen is like, do

32:38

not worry about points. Points

32:41

mean nothing, which

32:43

is it's very

32:45

not subtly getting into like religion.

32:48

And the idea of like how

32:51

much is a good deed worth and like

32:53

why are you- are you doing it because

32:55

it's a good thing or are you doing

32:57

it because you think you're getting enough skill

32:59

points to go to heaven? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

33:01

but what in terms of like which skills

33:03

I should get first to like give me

33:05

an advantage in the game. Yeah, what's your

33:07

loadout? I mean, so it's a lot of

33:09

like, do you want the more god points

33:11

now or do you want to kind of

33:13

get like god multipliers? And I've been really-

33:15

I've been really- I'm playing the non-multipliers, you

33:17

know? I'm playing the long game, you know?

33:19

This is Christo, stay prayed up, thank you so much. I

33:23

don't want to say too much more about it because it

33:26

is a very short game. I really would like y'all

33:28

to play it. This is a game that I- I

33:30

think the only way to really dig into it

33:32

is to do like a spoiler episode or

33:35

talk about spoilers down the line because

33:37

it is so short. This

33:41

looks so sick. I am very glad that you brought

33:43

it. It is also just

33:45

a beautiful game. Yeah,

33:47

it does seem less boring

33:49

than Pentamint was. It is

33:52

definitely less boring. It's less

33:54

book than Pentamint was.

33:57

I can promise you that. I

33:59

appreciate that. I'm talking about

34:01

an indie platformer called Stiva and Stiva

34:03

is Are

34:10

we we got some mail yeah, we got a

34:12

little bit of reader mail So

34:15

while you guys were out we had Lucy

34:17

James as a guest she was great as

34:19

always And Lucy mentioned

34:21

the fact that she was in a performance of Hamilton

34:23

and the person in front of her in the theater

34:26

Had their laptop open the whole time and

34:28

she had to like say something about it So we got

34:31

a letter about that specifically this comes from Rosemary Hi

34:34

besties I'm a professional stage manager and longtime listener

34:36

and want to chime in on the Hamilton thing

34:38

if Lucy had quote early tickets It's likely she

34:40

was seeing a preview during previews

34:42

the design team will watch from the house

34:44

and make edits the next day Before the

34:46

following preview so whoever was on their laptop

34:48

was probably a designer or an associate designer

34:51

that being said it's pretty bad Form to

34:53

disturb the paying audience that much Just wanted

34:55

to share since a lot of people didn't

34:57

know much about what happens offstage

34:59

very interesting. I mean Would

35:02

that why would they when they sit close to the

35:04

back? I don't know I'm not would have been my

35:06

guess as well, but maybe they need to see all

35:08

the viewing angles I mean, maybe they had some pressing

35:10

emails like geez Also, I feel like

35:12

Hamilton's gotta be pretty locked and loaded at this

35:14

point like you need notes Yeah,

35:17

I guess on the performances maybe anyway Josh

35:21

writes Justin you recommended the appeal by Janice

35:23

Hallett a while back and I've got to

35:25

say thanks I've been on

35:27

an epistolary book binge since then

35:30

have you read any of our other books? I

35:34

am currently reading Sydney

35:36

Mabbath reading the Twyford code, which is

35:38

actually I think predates the

35:40

appeal. I'm actually not sure it

35:43

doesn't matter They're not really this but

35:45

the Twyford code is another one of

35:48

The author is like non-traditional

35:50

storytelling novels

35:52

where it's the story of a

35:55

man who's released from prison and Has

35:58

an estranged son and. Very

36:00

little else and his life to

36:02

to help buoy him but because

36:04

of some their happened when he

36:06

was younger he gets pulled into

36:08

a basically conspiracy group of people

36:10

that think that this authored mean

36:12

either. Twyford was a children's author,

36:14

hit a bunch of. Ah,

36:17

secret codes, coded messages in her

36:19

children's books and he gets employed

36:21

into this conspiracy that quickly like

36:23

expands in size and what have

36:25

you. But what makes it interesting

36:27

is that he'd had just like

36:29

with as you Read the books

36:31

he has just learned to read.

36:33

In. Prison. So. The entirety

36:36

the but he doesn't feel comfortable

36:38

with with writing. I'm there's

36:40

implications the has like dyslexia or die

36:42

does flex Yes sir, he doesn't like

36:44

to rights of the entire thing is

36:46

his dictation on his phone. His son

36:48

loaned him his old phone that he

36:50

has no idea how to use so

36:53

he just uses voice memos that are

36:55

than be dictated so like what you're

36:57

reading in the book or just his

36:59

voice memos and his one on one

37:01

my conversations with people but there's no

37:03

outside editorializing. There's a lot of times

37:05

you'll see words that don't make sense

37:07

and you have to kind of parse.

37:10

Out like. There's a

37:12

teacher they Miss Isles. That's very important of

37:14

the story where every time you see her

37:16

name in the book it's missiles and in

37:18

it than Mccarty until little bit odd as

37:20

like oh oh okay, ah such a thing

37:23

and you get our conversational snippets where you

37:25

have to kind of piece together but was

37:27

happening. But it's a it's really cool and

37:29

it's a really interesting kind of detective who

37:31

is. Uniquely. Suited to what

37:33

he's doing. Mainly because it is. It is

37:35

history and like before, Ah is like criminal

37:38

history and stuff like that. but it's It's

37:40

really cool to see how he reacts mates

37:42

to the world and like there's a scene

37:44

where he tries to buy a map. To.

37:46

Get around my before ones like we're not.

37:49

Doing. The Map Sensitive Life in

37:51

a Wednesday. Maps anymore or back As

37:53

a rhetorical. that's awesome

37:55

oh yeah we had one more i read

37:58

or mail i had mentioned in the present

38:00

preview episode that we're not going to be

38:02

doing the romances bracket episode for a number

38:04

number of reasons, but I did want people

38:06

to write in through the comments with their

38:08

favorite romances, and we'll read some of them

38:11

over the next couple weeks. This

38:13

comes from Tamasha. Anyone

38:15

want to talk about Stardew Valley romance?

38:17

My OG was Leah because I'm queer

38:20

from a hippie town, but my fave

38:22

is platonic Crobus. I totally

38:24

agree with both of those picks. Both

38:26

Leah and Crobus are awesome. I think I

38:29

almost always default to Crobus these days. Yeah.

38:32

You gotta go Crobus. Crobus has no

38:34

expectations of you and is like

38:37

a pretty chill bro. Yeah.

38:40

Uh, cool. Do we have any honorable mentions we want

38:42

to talk about? I got a couple,

38:46

um, because I haven't been here for a couple

38:48

episodes. Uh, I think I mentioned

38:50

Destiny 2 getting like a big content update. Uh,

38:52

the last time I was on here, the Into

38:54

the Light update, which is sort of the big

38:56

final thing before the, uh, the final shape, which

38:58

is like the next huge expansion. I've

39:01

been real into it. Uh, they

39:03

have added like a new horde

39:05

mode called onslaught. That's really fun.

39:07

They have added back and like

39:10

remastered all of these like, uh,

39:12

like fan favorite weapons throughout the

39:14

history of the franchise, uh,

39:16

that are like pretty easy to get like

39:18

really, really cool versions of. Uh, they

39:21

ended going down the rabbit hole of getting it

39:23

working on your steam deck. Yes,

39:25

I did. Yeah. I just got a G force now,

39:28

uh, installed on there. It's fucking

39:30

great. That shit works like way

39:33

better than any streaming thing I have ever

39:35

done. Like no acceptable lag whatsoever. Um, yeah.

39:39

So I was able to play it a little

39:41

bit while I was traveling yesterday. They added a

39:43

new mode called the Pantheon, which is

39:45

a boss rush, basically

39:47

of raid encounters from different

39:50

raids, uh, with like really

39:52

crazy rewards and stuff. Uh, I

39:54

was at work with like changing loadouts. Like,

39:56

don't you, like, don't you need to bring

39:58

like every possible piece of gear? you would

40:00

need for every boss encounter? No, I mean

40:03

you would need a diversity of like

40:05

options, but also since I believe lightfall

40:07

They have added an in-game loadout system

40:09

that makes like managing that stuff like

40:12

our wicked wicked easy I

40:14

I am having some of the most fun I think I've

40:16

had playing playing destiny over the last couple weeks and

40:19

I don't know if like hop on now You'll

40:21

be able to get to that stuff as like

40:24

a longtime player who fell off for a while

40:26

I am very very much into it

40:28

also wanted to say sea of thieves got another

40:30

big content update yesterday That

40:32

added a bunch of zany shit to the

40:34

game that I am very much enjoying

40:36

they added like throwing knives

40:39

and double-barreled pistols and You

40:42

have this harpoon gun on your ship that you can use

40:44

to like pull things onto the ship

40:46

But now you can use it to stick a rope

40:48

up somewhere and then you can tightrope walk on it

40:50

or grind down it It like opens up you have

40:53

this horn that shoots wind out of it So now

40:55

you can like board an enemy ship and blow some

40:57

holes in it and then just keep knocking them off

40:59

So they can't repair it or you can blow wind

41:01

into your own sails or get in a rowboat and

41:04

use it like a motorboat By like blowing wind or

41:06

jump down from high places and catch yourself with it

41:08

like it that that game works the best because it

41:10

is like Full of silly plays that

41:12

you can do while I play in the game otherwise

41:14

and this update adds I played it

41:17

for like three hours last night like it adds a Ton

41:19

of shit that you can now goof around

41:22

with having a very very fun time with

41:24

that also I finished

41:26

a show gun It's

41:30

uh, I really I can't say

41:33

enough about like hmm Make

41:36

sure you take the time to

41:38

set aside to like really watch

41:40

it I would say it's

41:42

not something you can do like on

41:44

your phone when you're washing the dishes like

41:46

this is really something where you owe it

41:49

to yourself to like sit down and really

41:51

immerse in it because it is it's

41:54

also I mean,

41:56

it's just so Well Acted

41:58

and well written. And it

42:00

actually like. Has a point

42:03

that is not ram down your face.

42:05

It's never. Cheap. Or easy

42:07

the doesn't go for like easy

42:09

Good easy, Bad. All the

42:11

every scene is like. Incredibly.

42:15

Tense and it is.

42:18

Occasionally like a really hard watch I

42:20

think dislike. It starts this you start

42:22

to feel. So. Bogged

42:25

Down I think with like what the

42:27

the the way of what all the

42:29

different characters are are dealing with but

42:31

that's really as much accomplishes anything else

42:33

because it is like. It.

42:36

Didn't occur to me until the very

42:38

last episode. To look

42:40

to see. Who. The actors

42:42

were. Playing the part

42:44

like the idea that these were

42:46

actors was like not occurring to

42:48

me until. Almost. The end of

42:50

it, it's like. A hundred percent immersive.

42:52

It's beautiful to look at, is usually

42:55

shot. It's fascinating. The music rules. Ah

42:57

I don't know where I did too

42:59

many. Theory is that I'm a mini

43:01

series is amazing. Area is done. It

43:03

was had episode great it it has

43:06

some scenes in the last few episodes

43:08

that arm like they feel like they're

43:10

ten minutes long and they keep use

43:12

suspended in a state of. Read

43:15

it and like anxiety and

43:17

excitement and it I've never.

43:19

There's some, there's some athletes

43:21

heard it isn't that is

43:23

unlike anything I've ever seen

43:26

from human beings before and

43:28

there and reared released out

43:30

there are moments of like

43:32

shock and surprise that are.

43:35

I mean, wilder than anything I've ever seen

43:37

on Tv. I mean, like, legitimately like. Out

43:40

know and nobody else because it's a mini

43:42

series. didn't reset does not. Extended universe years

43:44

are now they're not going back via eyes.

43:46

Fat is incredible. Adding all that I want

43:48

to talk with you Althea about the finale

43:51

because I thing is I think it's. Very

43:53

bold and super do Yeah

43:56

man yeah yeah. i

43:58

a breeze segue about Related because it's

44:00

also an FX show. Oh, it's butt

44:02

related. Go ahead you nasty dog. I

44:05

finally finished season 5

44:07

of Fargo which I also feel really

44:09

strongly about if you've tried watching the

44:11

show before I Actually

44:13

think this season and probably season

44:15

1 are the best onboarding Fargo

44:18

I think they are like very

44:21

approachable And I think this

44:23

season in particular is quite good because it actually doesn't

44:25

really have any connection to the other seasons apart from

44:28

being like thematically and like in terms of the region

44:30

of the US Everybody

44:32

should watch the last season of Fargo. Oh,

44:35

wow. Okay, the best TV. I didn't I

44:37

think I Don't worry

44:39

about any of it. Just watch these

44:41

episodes. They are they're The

44:44

like some of the best you have ever

44:46

seen I think the other seasons of Fargo

44:48

gets so Big with so

44:50

many characters and such big stories that it's

44:52

easy to feel like homework where you're trying

44:54

to keep track of everything And

44:57

this I think for this season in particular

44:59

is a very focused story with like Basically

45:02

like five main characters that you're

45:04

following and their individual storylines and

45:06

the performances are just fucking

45:08

stellar I will also

45:10

say without like Talking

45:14

about any story or specific stuff this

45:17

season I think trucks a lot less

45:19

in the sort of like Nihilism

45:22

that permeated several of the other

45:25

scenes a series like this. Sorry

45:27

the seasons I don't

45:29

think it's specific to the movie, but there have

45:31

been other seasons where The

45:33

whole point seems to be like I don't know

45:35

we're all gonna die Really?

45:38

Bad. Yeah, everyone's bad. They're all bad

45:40

and this season has something more I

45:43

think in maybe in reaction to the

45:45

world around us this season has like

45:48

Something more interesting and ultimately like a

45:50

little bit more Uplifting

45:53

I think Think

45:55

about Frances McDormand's character in the movie

45:57

like her kind of spirit the draw

46:00

I think it's very consistent with what this

46:02

season is trying to talk about. And it sticks to

46:04

landing. It does? Yeah. 100%. That

46:08

was my... Unbelievably. The moment-to-moment writing in

46:10

the show I always really, really enjoyed.

46:13

But then I feel like we'd get to the

46:16

ending and then like... And then a newspaper flies

46:18

out of nowhere and it lands on the windshield

46:20

and they figure out that they need to go

46:22

to blank. And it's like, I can't believe that

46:24

that great writing ended with that one. Hey, basically,

46:27

Plant, it ends with a one-act play. Killer. In

46:29

one room. And doesn't rely on the

46:31

Ex Machina moment. It's

46:35

relentlessly fantastic. It's amazing. I'm gonna check

46:37

it. Extremely good. The only other thing

46:39

that I'm gonna call out before

46:42

I forget is a YouTube channel

46:44

called Solo Solo Travel. This

46:47

fucking rules. It is a

46:50

first-person travel YouTube

46:52

channel where a guy who

46:54

lives in Japan basically takes

46:56

very high-end or even low-end

46:58

travel forms. So, for example,

47:01

one night he'll just stay

47:03

in a $7,000 a night

47:05

sleeper train that is like famously difficult to

47:08

get tickets to. There's no

47:10

VO. It's all done in subtitle where

47:12

he's like narrating his experience but only

47:14

in subtitles. So it's incredibly quiet and

47:16

chill. It's just like the vibes of

47:18

Japan. That sounds good. And my son

47:22

loves it. He'll just like watch it and

47:24

be immersed in like the trains and the

47:26

experience of it. He's super involved. And

47:29

I have since gotten like totally hooked on it. So

47:31

if you're looking for something on YouTube that is like

47:33

to fall asleep to, boom. Yes. Solo

47:36

Solo Travel. I love it. I

47:39

love it. Mine is

47:41

a new book by

47:44

Adam Moss, a famous editor. And

47:46

the book is about editing. And the book is

47:48

called The Work of Art. Emphasis

47:51

on the work. And

47:53

it is about how I think

47:55

the subtitle is, How Something Comes from Nothing. And

47:58

he just went and interviewed. a ton

48:00

of brilliant artists about their process

48:03

of like how do you turn

48:05

blank paper into something cool? And

48:08

it's everybody from like George Saunders to

48:11

Susan Lori Parks, just people I really

48:13

admire. It goes from like writers to

48:15

dancers to photographers. And the

48:17

book itself is gorgeous. So

48:20

if you are the sort of person,

48:22

one who likes art and two just

48:24

likes learning about process and

48:26

like how the hell do masterpieces

48:28

get created? Because ultimately they're made

48:30

by like just people like

48:33

all of us. It's a really great

48:35

read. And I found it like very

48:38

inspiring about how to keep a, a

48:40

kind of a healthy and open and creative mind. Cool.

48:45

I think we did it. I wanted

48:48

to thank the following patrons for

48:51

the Patreon. A shout out goes

48:53

to Wednesday Sophia, Pat Lusk, Cake

48:56

at Jobs and Vet Fantastic.

48:58

Thank you for being patrons. Speaking of the

49:00

Patreon, which you can find it, patreon.com/the

49:03

besties, we have our new Bracket

49:05

Battles episode, which is coming up,

49:07

that's gonna go up this

49:10

coming Tuesday. And we're gonna

49:12

be talking about the best second games

49:14

in series history. So think

49:16

like Mega Man 2, that kind of

49:19

thing. So we've got-

49:21

That won't win. I'll tell you, yeah, Mega Man 2 is

49:23

not winning, which is why I called it out, but it

49:26

should be a fun one. I'm really looking forward to it.

49:29

Obviously feel free to drop in your picks for

49:31

favorite second game in the series as

49:34

well, in the comments, as well as

49:36

your romance picks. Feel free

49:38

to keep those coming, but yeah, should be

49:40

a fun one. Plant,

49:43

you wanna recap the games we talked about? Yeah,

49:45

we talked about No Rest for

49:47

the Wicked, Indica, Destiny 2, Into the

49:49

Light. We talked

49:51

about Shogun and Fargo on both of them are

49:53

on Hulu because they're FX. We talked about The

49:55

Work of Art by Adam Lass. And Justin, what

49:58

was the name of the book that you mentioned? The

50:00

twyford code the twyford code we

50:03

also talked about solo travel on

50:06

YouTube solo solo travel Solo

50:08

solo travel. Thank you. Solo

50:10

solo travel And

50:13

I think that's it Cool.

50:15

Well, so next week

50:18

we are doing Animal

50:20

well fuck which is a yes a Game

50:24

so excited to talk about I don't think we've

50:26

I don't know that you know people listening at

50:28

home know anything about animal Maybe

50:31

the most excited to talk about a game.

50:33

I have been for the last like a

50:35

year Yeah, incredibly fucking pumped to talk about

50:37

this game. Yeah Yeah,

50:40

awesome. Well that that will be next week. We'll look

50:42

forward to it and we hope you will join us

50:44

again Next week, so then my name

50:46

is Justin McRory for all of us here Thanks

50:49

for listening to the besties and be sure to join us again next

50:51

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