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Fib! Can you spot the light? Big Fib!

1:00

Some pigs can fly. Big Fib! But

1:02

if you ask me why, can you trust

1:04

the answer? Oh,

1:08

the Big Fib! From Reville,

1:10

Virginia, this is the Big

1:12

Fib, and now here's your

1:15

host, Deborah Goldstein. Welcome

1:17

to the Big Fib, the game

1:19

show where kids choose between the

1:22

rich-sounding, harmonious glissando of truth and

1:24

the buzzing and strapped dissonance of

1:26

lies. I'm your host,

1:28

Deborah Goldstein, and in the studio

1:30

today is our sound effects robot,

1:32

Lisa, whose name stands for live

1:34

in studio audience. Ooh,

1:38

uh, Lisa, it sounds like your output is

1:40

not set to the right frequency. Can you

1:42

change that? The best

1:44

time to wear a striped

1:46

sweater. The wicket is

1:49

inspected and another test begins. Is

1:53

that cold, boo? And

1:57

she stepped on the ball. I'm

2:01

going to get the first use of this good

2:03

wicked. Still no. Okay, here, let me just adjust.

2:06

And so I said, why the long

2:08

face? You're back!

2:10

Fantastic! It is fantastic,

2:12

because I have a listener question from

2:15

John that I'd like to play. Oh,

2:17

please do. Lisa, how

2:19

old are you? Ah,

2:22

age. Age is an antiquated human construct

2:25

that has little meaning in the world

2:27

of robots. I mean,

2:29

what is age other than a

2:31

human record of conscious awareness tracked

2:33

by a linear calendar of human

2:35

design? You don't know how old you are, do you?

2:38

In simple human terms? Uh,

2:41

no. Okay, well, I agree with

2:43

you that age is unimportant. Oh,

2:45

I didn't say it was unimportant for you humans.

2:48

It's probably very important that you are, you

2:50

know, 172 years old. Uh,

2:53

no, no, no, I'm not. Now

2:55

don't be coy, Deborah, you should

2:57

celebrate your very advanced human age.

3:00

I'm not shy about it, Lisa, but this

3:02

joke about my age is getting old. Like

3:04

you. We're

3:06

gonna move on now that you sort of

3:08

kind of answered John's question and let our

3:10

listeners know what our game is all about.

3:13

Well, there's certainly no age requirement to do

3:15

that. Mmm. What?

3:17

Oh, so here goes. Every

3:19

week we bring on two grownups. One

3:22

is an expert. The other? Oh,

3:24

what? We haven't fixed this yet. The other one

3:27

is a liar. And it's the job of

3:29

a human child to help us figure out who was who.

3:31

Because no one can spot a liar better than

3:33

a kid. At least we hope. I mean, we

3:36

bought a billboard and it says that. What are

3:38

we lying about today, Deborah? We

3:40

are lying about the accordion, a

3:42

musical instrument using forced air to

3:44

produce sounds. And to ask questions

3:46

about accordions and find our fibber,

3:48

we need a contestant. Who is

3:50

our contestant today, Lisa? Our

3:52

human child contestant. Is an 11

3:54

year old who loves gerbils and

3:57

drawing anime. Is he? Hi,

4:00

Izzy. Hi. Nice

4:03

to have you on the show. I

4:05

want to know all about those facts.

4:07

You love drawing anime. Do you have

4:09

a favorite anime character? My favorite anime

4:11

character would probably be Rama from the

4:14

show Rama One Half. And

4:16

what's that all about? It's about this

4:18

guy named Rama, but when he's

4:20

splashed with cold water, he turns into a girl. Oh,

4:23

cool. And so it's all about like

4:25

wacky hijinks that ensue. That ensue, I

4:27

love that. I love ensuing hijinks.

4:31

That sounds really cool. You heard it here. Everybody

4:33

should go take a look. And you like to

4:35

draw them, right? Yeah. Very

4:38

cool. An artist. And you

4:40

have a special shout out. Is that correct? Oh, yeah.

4:42

So I want to shout out one of my

4:44

friends, Kara. Shout out, Kara.

4:46

Yeah. Partially for being the

4:49

one who introduced me to this podcast and

4:51

partially kind of being like, can

4:53

I hear before it comes out? Like, can I

4:55

hear the episode before it comes out? And I'm

4:57

like, what if I mention you? You're a good

4:59

friend. This has been an official shout

5:01

out. Shout out. Nice.

5:05

That's great. So we love Kara too, because

5:07

she's the one who turned you onto the

5:09

podcast. So we're all shouting out to Kara.

5:11

Thanks for tuning in, Kara. Hello,

5:13

Kara. Well, we want to know some

5:15

more fun facts about you, Izzy, but

5:17

we're going to do it playing our

5:19

game, Two Truths and a Lie. You,

5:21

Izzy, are going to tell us three

5:23

facts about yourself. Two of those facts

5:25

will be true. One will be

5:27

a lie. We have to see how well

5:29

you can lie by trying to figure out

5:32

which one is the lie, Izzy. What

5:34

are your three facts? Okay. Number

5:36

one, I am halfway finished writing a

5:38

novel. Number two, I play

5:40

the oboe. And number three, I love

5:42

to snowboard. That's a good

5:45

list of facts because each one is very different

5:47

than the other. It makes it really hard to

5:49

choose. What do you think, Lisa? Very

5:51

challenging. Let's see. If

5:53

she were to play the oboe,

5:56

then it would be

5:58

hard for her to snowboard.

6:00

because I think you

6:02

need your hands to kind of balance

6:04

when you're snowboarding. So

6:06

it's like those two kind of fight each other.

6:09

And then also if she was writing a novel,

6:11

how's she gonna snowboard and write a novel at

6:13

the same time? None of these

6:15

really make sense. So I'm kind of in

6:17

the dark on this one, but I'm just

6:19

gonna go with my gut and say that

6:21

I don't think anyone really loves to snowboard

6:23

because it's just like falling for a long

6:25

time and nobody likes falling. So

6:27

I'm gonna go with I love to snowboard is

6:30

the lie. Thank you. Okay. I

6:32

think there's a little more to it than falling,

6:35

but let's check in Izzy. Which one of those

6:37

facts is your lie? You're

6:39

right. I do not love to snowboard.

6:41

I ski. Yeah, cause nobody likes falling.

6:44

She skis though. Would you say that's falling,

6:46

Lisa? Oh, you ski? Oh,

6:48

she does like falling. Wait, my

6:50

logic was wrong? Apparently. Your logic was

6:53

wrong, but you got it correct. But

6:55

also that means that you play the

6:57

oboe, which is a beautiful instrument. That

6:59

sounds very cool. And also you

7:01

are halfway through your first novel. What's

7:03

your novel about? So it's about this

7:05

girl named Jasmine and her pet wolf

7:07

named Ark. And

7:10

this special magic water ring and

7:12

like how she has to save

7:14

this whole round thing. Wow.

7:16

Okay. so

7:18

we can read it. Yes. Okay. What

7:21

do you know about the accordion, Izzy?

7:23

I know that I cannot play it.

7:25

Okay. I know that it is technically

7:27

a keyboard instrument even though that there's

7:30

reeds. Okay. Okay. And

7:32

I know that it has kind of like half piano

7:34

thing on one side and a bunch of buttons on

7:36

the other side. So I do, do, do, do, do.

7:39

Nice. And that's exactly what it sounds like. That

7:41

could also describe me. That's

7:43

true. Yeah. You have

7:46

a lot in common with accordions. Yeah. I

7:48

got a bunch of buttons on one side and a weird keyboard on the other

7:50

side. Oh, wait,

7:52

am I an accordion? No, you're not. You're

7:54

not. I don't really understand myself.

7:58

This is a momentous occasion. Isn't it Izzy?

8:00

All right, well, we want to learn

8:03

more about the accordion, but I think

8:05

it would be good if we could

8:07

do that by asking our experts some

8:09

questions. So Lisa, can you give us

8:11

some music to welcome our accordion experts?

8:15

Hey, come on in

8:17

with your accordion, unless

8:20

you didn't bring it. And that's okay,

8:22

because we didn't specify that you had

8:24

to bring it. We just

8:26

assumed you would. Whoa!

8:30

They get better and better. Okay,

8:32

our first expert is Marianne Kubone.

8:34

Marianne, could you please introduce yourself

8:36

to Izzy? Hi Isabelle, I'm Marianne, and

8:38

I'm an accordion teacher. Thank you for that.

8:41

And now we will meet our

8:43

second expert, Frank Gorsky. Frank, please

8:45

introduce yourself to Izzy. Hey, I'm

8:47

Frank Gorsky, and I play accordion in a band

8:50

called The Barrel Hoppers. Maybe we can play

8:52

for you someday. Ooh, that would be

8:54

fun. Hot seat, hot seat,

8:56

hot seat, hot seat, hot seat, hot seat. Dropping

9:02

like a time. Tell us about

9:04

those bellowing beats, Lisa. Those are the

9:06

seat beats. Look as it's

9:08

hot seat time. That is correct, it's

9:10

hot seat time. That's when we put

9:12

our experts on the hot seat while

9:14

they answer Izzy's questions. Lisa, whom

9:16

should we put on the hot seat first?

9:19

Frank Gorsky, because his name sounds

9:21

like an old timey detective name.

9:23

I'm Frank Gorsky, and I'm on

9:25

the case. Ooh, nice, I

9:27

like that. That could be another job for him if

9:29

the accordion thing doesn't work out, right? Gorsky,

9:32

Frank Gorsky. Nice.

9:34

Okay, so Izzy, what is your first

9:37

question for Frank? What is a typical

9:39

day at your job? So as

9:41

an accordionist, I travel a lot, right? We play

9:43

in a band, and so most of my time

9:46

is spent in a van with a bunch of

9:48

stinky guys going from gig to gig.

9:51

We play about 100 dates a year all

9:53

over the country, so there's a

9:55

lot of driving. But in addition to that, there's

9:57

a lot of practice, right? You gotta warm up

9:59

your fingers. So there's a lot of wiggling

10:01

going on and some hand exercises that you can do.

10:04

And then we spend probably an

10:07

hour or two, three or four times a

10:09

week practicing. So that's not a typical day,

10:11

I guess, but that's a typical week. Yeah,

10:13

that sounds like fun except for the stinky

10:16

guy part. Mary-Ann, can you describe what an

10:18

accordion is? I certainly can. An accordion is

10:20

a reed instrument. We wouldn't

10:22

put it in the keyboard family because not

10:25

all accordions are keyboard instruments. Many

10:27

accordions have buttons on both sides. And

10:29

the heart of the instrument is the

10:31

bellows. So it's the wind

10:33

that makes the reeds speak and

10:35

make sound. And it could

10:37

be many sizes, many colors. It

10:40

could be really you could order an accordion to

10:42

look like anything you wanted it to look like.

10:45

Whatever your favorite color is, or if you wanted it to

10:47

be some sort of a pattern, that could all happen. And

10:50

many sizes, everything from the smallest one having just

10:52

12 buttons on the left hand to more than

10:55

120. Wait,

10:57

so could I like order an accordion to look like

10:59

a dragon? It wouldn't be

11:01

the shape of a dragon, but it could

11:03

certainly be imprinted on the bellows for sure.

11:06

Cool. Love that. That's a reason

11:08

to take up the accordion. Okay. What

11:10

advice would you give me if I wanted to do your job

11:12

and this is for both of you? So

11:15

you'd have to begin playing the accordion, which

11:17

is something I think everyone should do anyway.

11:20

And then you would need to practice every

11:22

day. I think that would be the most

11:24

important advice. Every day you need to spend

11:26

a little time with that instrument. So practice

11:28

really works? Apparently.

11:32

Most definitely. I wish there was an expression

11:34

about that. What would

11:36

it be, Lisa? Practice

11:38

makes people around you

11:40

annoyed. I

11:43

think they would be very happy to hear that

11:45

you're making a wonderful effort and you're persistent and

11:47

dedicated. Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, okay, fine.

11:50

All right, Frank, are you going to take that

11:52

question too? I am going to take that question.

11:54

And first of all, I'd agree with what Marianne

11:56

said, but I'd add a couple of things. Is

11:58

he first? put

14:00

it more starting in the early 1800s

14:02

in Vienna. It

14:04

was pretty simple at first. There were some piano keys,

14:07

a few reeds, and the bellows

14:09

that Mary Ann just described. Over

14:12

time, a bass part was added to

14:14

the second side so that you could

14:16

play your own accompaniment, and

14:19

that really helped the instrument take

14:21

off. In the 1920s, they added

14:23

something called a fluevin, which helps

14:25

control the airflow better than the

14:27

older styles did. It

14:29

makes it actually a little lighter, believe it or not. After

14:32

the fluevin was added in the 20s, it

14:35

really took off. In the 30s, 40s, and 50s, they

14:38

just got more and more complicated

14:41

with the number of keys or

14:43

buttons. Then more

14:45

recently, they've invented a digital

14:47

accordion. That's really heavy and I

14:49

got to be honest, I don't mess around with it because

14:51

I like the old style myself. Thank you

14:54

very much. Izzy, back to you. This

14:56

is probably my favorite question. Which

14:58

Yankovic would you rather play with, Frankie or

15:00

Weird Al? That's going to go to both

15:03

of you. Me first this time. Can I go first? Can I

15:05

go first? 100 percent. This

15:07

is not a slight on the other guy,

15:09

but 100 percent. I'm playing

15:12

with Frankie because without Frankie, there

15:14

is no Weird Al. He was the

15:16

Polka King, the King, the

15:18

most popular musician in America for a

15:20

long time. One of the

15:22

coolest things about Frankie Yankovic is that he

15:25

was in World War II. He

15:27

almost lost his fingers. Oh, no. Because he

15:30

got frostbite, it got so cold, he almost

15:32

lost his fingers. Can you imagine what the

15:34

world would be like if Frankie

15:36

Yankovic had lost his fingers in the war?

15:38

It's a sad thought. I can't even think

15:41

of it. I can't even think of it.

15:43

It's mind-blowing for me. I

15:45

would 1000 percent say Frankie Yankovic. Okay.

15:48

Mary Ann, do you concur? Can I choose

15:51

none of the above? You can. Tell us

15:53

why. Well, it just wouldn't be my particular

15:55

style of music, that's all. That's

15:58

fair. What kind of music would- you

16:00

like to play? Well, believe it or

16:02

not, I have a bachelor's degree in

16:04

accordion performance. People don't

16:07

even think that's an option. So I

16:09

would prefer to play something classical. That's

16:11

what I would play on the accordion. All right,

16:13

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us, you get other perks too. who

20:00

plays the accordion. The coolest guy in the

20:02

room. No kidding. An accordionist

20:04

or Schlosselmeister, which is German

20:07

for Keymaster. Are there left-handed accordions? I'm

20:09

a lefty, I wish there were, but

20:11

no. What is the earliest version of

20:13

the accordion that dates back to ancient

20:15

China? Well, that's the Sheng. In

20:17

what movie did the accordion first appear in the year

20:19

1888? Ooh, Pass.

20:22

Factor FIB. Most accordions are made

20:24

by hand. That's a fact. Is

20:26

the accordion a percussion instrument or a reed

20:29

instrument? Trick question there, it's a wind instrument.

20:31

Who patented the accordion in 1829? Oh,

20:34

it was an Austrian guy. I

20:37

can see the name, but I can't remember it. Something

20:40

IAN, I think, an Ensign. Can I take a

20:42

half pass on that? What kind of accordion is

20:44

famous for tango music? That's the

20:46

concertina. Factor FIB. Before rock and

20:48

roll in the guitar, the accordion was the most

20:50

popular instrument in the United States. Absolute

20:53

fact. And time. That's all

20:55

the time, sorry. Very good. It's

20:57

music to my ears. Okay. It's

21:03

decision time. Izzy has to register

21:05

all the information she's heard to

21:07

decide who is fibbing. Izzy,

21:09

who is our big fibber? Uh,

21:12

I have no idea. Uh-oh.

21:15

That's right. No,

21:17

there is a fibber. I'm gonna

21:20

go and say Frank is

21:22

the liar. Because? Why

21:25

do you think so? I had looked up

21:27

a bunch of stuff about when the accordion

21:29

was patented. Mm-hmm. And the thing

21:31

he said for the last name. I don't

21:33

think that was correct. Okay. So

21:35

you're relying on fact and research. An

21:38

interesting strategy. Okay. Will

21:40

the actual accordion expert please

21:43

say, I am the

21:45

accordion expert? I

21:48

am the accordion expert? Oh, yes. Woo!

21:50

Izzy, got it! That's right.

21:52

Mary Ann Cabone is president

21:54

of the Accordionists and Teachers

21:56

Guild International, a professional organization.

21:58

promoting excellence in performance and

22:01

teaching the accordion. She is

22:03

also the director of the

22:05

Chicagoland Accordion Academy, where she

22:07

teaches accordion to students of

22:09

all ages and abilities. Wow.

22:11

Welcome, Mary-Ann. I feel like

22:13

we have accordion nobility

22:15

in the house. Welcome. Okay.

22:17

Time to do some fact-checking. Mary-Ann,

22:19

let's grill our liar about the

22:22

lies he told. How did he

22:24

hit below the belt? Wow. I

22:29

don't know what a flueven is. I

22:31

thought actually Frank did a pretty decent

22:33

job. That's good. I don't know what

22:35

a flueven is, and what was the

22:38

question about tango music? Oh, the most

22:40

common type of accordion used for the

22:42

tango. Yeah, and that would be the

22:44

bandonian, Astor Piazzolla in Argentina. It was

22:46

very famous for tango music, written many

22:48

pieces. It's very exciting to play his

22:50

music. I love his music. Oh, we'll

22:52

have to look that up. Cool. I'd

22:54

like to hear that. Okay. Over to

22:56

you, Frank. How did you try to

22:58

push all our buttons? Mary-Ann is exactly

23:01

right, as is Izzy. The concertina is

23:03

not the instrument that's used in tango.

23:05

A flueven is completely made up. Ooh.

23:07

Yeah. The Trixie is not

23:10

really a nickname for the

23:12

accordion. I based that on

23:14

the name for the instrument

23:16

in Basque, Spain. Oh,

23:19

that is an instrument? I changed it around

23:21

a little bit because I couldn't pronounce the

23:23

full one. I see. Okay. But I thought

23:25

Trixie was cute enough to go. It's a

23:27

good lie, right. And you mentioned something about

23:29

a person who plays the accordion. Oh,

23:32

right. Yeah. The Schlosselmeister is completely made up

23:34

also. That was made up. I am the

23:36

Schlosselmeister. I am here to schlossle you. I

23:38

mean, it's fun to say. I don't want

23:41

that to be like an actual name. I

23:43

know. You should put that in your book.

23:45

I should. Yeah, write that down. You can

23:47

use that. That's from me to you. I

23:49

feel like Mary-Ann has the power to introduce

23:52

that to the world of the accordions also.

23:55

Okay. But also just a fun fact,

23:58

the movie that the accordion first... appeared

24:00

in in the year 1888 is called

24:02

none other than Accordion Player.

24:05

Clever title. And let's just

24:07

clarify once and for all,

24:09

the accordion is a what

24:11

type of instrument, Marianne? Well, it's a

24:13

reed instrument which, you know, the reeds

24:16

don't sound without the wind. So. Much

24:18

like the oboe. Yes. Yes, indeed. Very

24:20

good. And the person who patented the

24:22

accordion in 1829, Marianne, do you know

24:24

who that is? Cyril Damian. Oh, she

24:26

does know who that is. There is

24:28

some dispute, but we won't go there.

24:30

That's who's currently credited with it. That's

24:32

interesting. So that's probably not the name

24:35

then that Izzy found, which is how

24:37

she based her decision. Actually, I found

24:39

two names. One did it, then it

24:41

was that guy. The other did it

24:43

before him. And all I remember from

24:45

his name was Ludwig. I see. It

24:47

could be Ludwig Schottlmeiser. It could be.

24:49

Yes. I like the name.

24:52

We'll have to see if that name exists if

24:54

there's a person out there. Hopefully he plays the

24:56

accordion because it just seems right to do. Ludwig

24:58

Schottlmeiser, if you're listening, just send us a message.

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