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1:07

Big Fib! From Roket Lake,

1:09

New York, this is The Big

1:11

Fib, and here's your host, Deborah

1:16

Gold!

1:20

Wow! Welcome to The Big Fib,

1:22

the game show where kids choose

1:24

between the open, sweet spot of

1:26

top-spinning truth and the backhanded and

1:28

inverted dead ball of lies. I'm

1:30

your host, Deborah Goldstein, and in

1:32

the studio today is our sound

1:34

effects robot, Lisa, whose name stands

1:36

for live in-studio audience. Burp.

1:39

Pardon me. I burp when

1:41

there's a listener question in my ogle port.

1:45

Oh, a listener question. Well, maybe you'll feel

1:47

a little better after you play that question

1:49

for us. Good idea. Here it

1:51

is, Deborah. Hello. My name

1:53

is Lucy, and I'm 13 years

1:55

old. My question for Lisa

1:58

is if you could be at a... superhero

2:00

what would your power

2:02

be thanks I love

2:05

your guidance podcast Oh

2:08

thanks Lucy great question I

2:11

personally would love the ability to fly

2:13

how about you Lisa I take

2:15

issue with that question Lucy

2:18

okay I believe it

2:20

would be more appropriate to

2:22

ask me which superpower superheroes

2:25

would like of mine of yours

2:27

what do you mean I mean who

2:29

wouldn't want to have my super powers

2:32

like incredible ability to beatbox

2:35

hubba hubba hubba like that

2:37

or you know you could

2:42

generate any kind of sound

2:44

on demand like Debra have

2:46

you ever heard my most recent sound file

2:49

earthworms playing underground frisbee

2:51

how would they even

2:53

play under there it

3:00

is that's

3:05

something all right something every

3:07

superhero wishes they could do all

3:10

right then Lucy I guess you have

3:13

your answers albeit probably not the answers

3:15

you were expecting you're welcome okay

3:18

let's get on with the game shall

3:20

we Lisa we shall yes please why

3:22

don't you tell us how our game

3:24

works why don't you ask me to tell us

3:26

how our game works Lisa could you please

3:29

tell our listeners how our game works let's

3:31

say that wasn't so hard okay no it

3:34

wasn't yeah every week we

3:36

bring on two grown-ups we go out

3:38

we say are you a grown-up and

3:40

they say yes and we say are

3:42

there two of you and then they

3:44

say yes and we say come on

3:46

here and here's the catch about these

3:48

grown-ups okay one of them is an

3:50

expert a bona fide real deal big-time

3:52

fancy fancy expert one is a

3:55

bona fide or real deal

3:58

fancy fancy liar Yeah,

4:00

and it's the job of a human child

4:03

to figure out which is which. What

4:05

are we lying about today, Deborah? We

4:08

are lying about table tennis, an indoor

4:10

game played with paddles and a ball

4:12

bounced on a table divided by a

4:14

net. Lisa, what do you know

4:16

about table tennis? I know that

4:19

table tennis reminds me of my great

4:21

aunt Pong. She was the original computer

4:23

version of table tennis. Ooh, cool. She

4:25

was the coolest. But

4:28

she's been greatly wronged by Atari.

4:31

She has yet to receive one royalty

4:34

check from them. Oh

4:36

no, has she tried getting in touch with

4:39

the finance department there? Oh she's

4:41

tried, Deborah, and they keep going

4:43

back and forth, back and forth,

4:46

back and forth. Uh, yeah, I get

4:48

it, like the game. Royalty

4:50

checks are no game, Deborah. Sorry,

4:52

you're right. Speaking of which, I

4:55

want direct deposit. I'll work

4:57

on that. Okay, well speaking of game,

4:59

let's get on with ours, shall we?

5:01

Lisa, who is our contestant today? Our

5:04

human child's contestant is an 11 year old

5:07

who wants to be an archaeologist and has

5:09

a very special stuffed

5:11

animal, Danya Goma. Welcome

5:15

Danya, how are you today? Good,

5:17

how are you? I'm well,

5:19

thank you for asking. It's so nice to

5:22

have you here today. You have a special

5:24

stuffed animal? Why is

5:26

that stuffed animal so special? It's

5:29

really special because my cousin got it

5:31

for me when I was little. Aww,

5:34

what kind of animal is it? It's a

5:36

cat. Little cat, does it have a name?

5:39

Yeah, a name to her kitty. That's

5:41

a good name for a cat, definitely,

5:44

very sweet. And you've had

5:46

it ever since you were a baby, that

5:48

is very special. Thank you for sharing. And

5:50

I also understand you would like to be

5:52

an archaeologist. What does an archaeologist do? Well,

5:55

an archaeologist, usually they

5:58

do archaeological digs. And

6:00

they help solve mysteries from the past.

6:03

Wow. By digging? Yes.

6:06

Because they find stuff when they're digging. I have a

6:08

mystery. What is your mystery? I

6:10

can't find any of my string cheese. Danya,

6:12

can you solve it? Maybe

6:16

not by digging anything, right? Unless you've buried

6:18

your string cheese in the backyard. Yes, I'd

6:20

bury my string cheese. Oh, well

6:22

then. Oh, actually that's probably where it

6:24

is. It's probably just buried. Perhaps

6:26

you need someone like Danya to help dig it up. Oh,

6:29

thank you, Danya. Very cool.

6:31

I love that you want to discover

6:33

the answers to mysteries in the past.

6:35

That's super cool. Good luck

6:37

on your path to becoming an

6:40

archaeologist. I really, really dig it.

6:43

Okay. Well, we certainly want to

6:45

know more fun facts about you, but we're going

6:47

to do it, playing our special game, Two

6:49

Truths and a Lie. I'm sure you've heard of it.

6:52

You are going to share with us three

6:54

facts about yourself. Two of those facts

6:56

will be true. One will be a

6:58

lie. We have to figure

7:00

out which one is a lie. So Danya,

7:03

what are your three facts? My

7:06

three facts are I am a

7:08

brown belt in Taekwondo. I'm

7:11

the first one in my family to be on a

7:13

podcast. And I have lived in

7:15

three states. Okay. I

7:18

feel like the brown belt might be a trick.

7:20

Like maybe she has a different color belt or

7:22

maybe she practices a different type of martial arts.

7:24

What do you think, Lisa? You

7:28

know what I'm going to do here? I'm

7:30

going to look up every person who's ever

7:32

been on a podcast on our podcast. Finally,

7:34

we have access to that as a podcast.

7:37

And yeah, there are

7:40

probably millions. You

7:42

know what? I'm not

7:45

seeing any record of anyone else in her

7:47

family on a podcast in the file. So

7:49

I'm going to say that one is true.

7:51

She's never no one else has ever been

7:53

on a podcast. She's the first one in

7:55

her family. Let's see. Oh,

7:57

I asked about what was the third one. I

8:00

have lived in three states. All

8:02

right, let me just see here. I'm going to look up,

8:04

we have access to a list of everyone who's lived in

8:06

three states. Thank you. Okay,

8:10

you're on this list. So

8:14

then, brown belts gotta be

8:16

false, gotta be a lie. Interesting. She's

8:19

got no brown belt, she didn't even have any belts.

8:21

How about that? We'll

8:25

soon find out, Danya, which one of

8:27

those facts is actually a lie? I'm

8:30

the first one in my family to be on a podcast.

8:34

What? That was incorrect, Lisa. Your databases

8:36

are incorrect. Oh, I have to update it. Somebody's

8:38

putting the data incorrectly or something. Yeah, for

8:40

sure. Okay, well, who else has been on

8:42

a podcast? My uncle

8:44

runs a podcast with his friends.

8:47

Really? And it's based off of

8:49

Dungeons and Dragons. Cool, that

8:51

sounds cool. Okay, wait a minute, what's your

8:53

uncle's last name, though? Same last

8:55

name? No. That's why. I was

8:57

looking at the wrong last name. That's why. Yeah,

9:00

don't tell us what the last name is. But you can tell us what

9:02

the name of the podcast is, do you know? I

9:04

have no idea. That's

9:06

very popular amongst the family members. I

9:09

love that, too. Yeah, right? Okay,

9:11

so that means, though, that you

9:13

are a brown belt in Taekwondo. Does that

9:15

mean black belt is next? No,

9:18

I have three more belts for

9:20

review. Okay. And then I

9:22

go to black belt. Do you want to become a black

9:24

belt? Yes. Cool, well,

9:26

good luck. Do you know how to break a board?

9:29

Yes. Oh, hold

9:31

on, let me hide my precious boards. Yes,

9:33

you should. Absolutely hide them. And

9:36

you've lived in three states. Which states have

9:38

you lived in? I've lived

9:40

in Massachusetts, New

9:42

York, and California.

9:45

Ooh, which one's your favorite? I

9:48

really like Massachusetts because

9:50

there's just a lot

9:52

of historical meanings

9:54

in that state. Yes, absolutely. I'm

9:56

getting the sense that you're really

9:58

fascinated by this. history and I

10:01

love that. Yeah. But unfortunately today we're

10:03

gonna live in the present if you

10:05

don't mind and we are

10:08

going to get on with our game

10:10

about table tennis. Have you ever played

10:12

table tennis before, Danya? My friend actually

10:14

has a table tennis set

10:16

and wow to play it in her

10:19

backyard a lot. Oh wow so you

10:21

might know a singer too. Yeah. So

10:23

whoever our fiber is watch out. Okay

10:27

we are going to bring on our

10:29

experts. Lisa can we get some music

10:31

for our table tennis experts? Let's

10:34

play table tennis. It's

10:38

about three seconds of playing and

10:40

then 45 minutes of

10:43

looking for the ball under the

10:45

bookshelf. Where did the ball go?

10:47

Why can't we find it? Come

10:49

on in. Very

10:53

fun song. I love it.

10:55

Okay our first expert is

10:57

Ian Seidenfeld. Ian please introduce

10:59

yourself to Danya. Hello Danya

11:01

I'm Ian Seidenfeld and I'm a

11:03

Paralympic table tennis player. Thank

11:06

you very much. Let's meet our second

11:08

expert Natalia Orlov. Natalia please introduce yourself

11:10

to Danya. Hi Danya I'm

11:12

Natalia Orlov and I'm a table tennis coach.

11:15

Interesting. Alright then. Tell us about

11:17

those sounds you've uploaded Lisa.

11:19

I'm serving

11:22

you hot seat. Okay

11:35

correct that's what we put our experts

11:37

on the hot seat while they answer

11:39

Danya's questions. Lisa whom should we put

11:42

on the hot seat first? Natalia

11:44

Orlov because her initials

11:46

are no and I

11:48

love that word. We

11:51

know you do yes that's true okay.

11:53

No I don't. Do I

11:55

do there? Yes I sure do. That's my

11:57

new laugh. Okay. a

12:00

good laugh. Thank you. Daniel, what

12:02

is your first question for Natalia? Why

12:05

is it typical day like at your job?

12:07

A typical day at my job, we

12:10

watch a lot of game tape. Then

12:13

when we actually practice, we spend

12:15

about four hours a day just

12:17

practicing serves because the game table

12:20

tennis really comes down to just practicing

12:22

your serve, getting your arm motion down

12:24

and working on spin because the game

12:27

is one based on spin rate of

12:29

the ball. Now that's

12:31

what my job looks like. A lot of science

12:33

is involved surprisingly. Interesting. That's

12:36

what I always say, Debra. I say it comes down

12:38

to the spin rate of the ball. Is

12:40

that what you say? I'm always saying they're

12:42

saying, sir, would you like a French rise with

12:44

that? I say it comes down to the spin

12:46

rate of the ball. Now

12:50

I understand why you say that all the time. Yeah,

12:52

that's why. Okay, now, Danya, you're

12:55

going to take it from here. Ian,

12:58

this question is for you. What

13:00

advice would you give me if I wanted your job?

13:04

If you wanted to become a table tennis player,

13:07

I would suggest that

13:09

you initially have a great passion

13:12

for sport and table tennis

13:14

and a passion for competing.

13:18

Then beyond that, a

13:20

work ethic that's willing to put in

13:22

the time and do the

13:24

things that you don't want to do all

13:26

the time in order to do some of

13:28

the things that you do want to. It's

13:32

being able to put in hours,

13:35

kind of, every day, thoughtful

13:37

hours. Is there something you

13:39

don't like to do that you have to do? Of

13:42

course, of course. There's a bunch of different

13:44

things. Sometimes when

13:47

you're conditioning yourself, you don't want to go

13:49

out at 8am to

13:52

go biking or swimming or

13:54

running. But those

13:56

are some of the things you have to do. Wow,

13:58

so you have to really be in good shape. to

14:00

play table tennis competitively. Correct.

14:03

Got it. You have to build a

14:05

table every day, Deborah. It's exhausting. You

14:07

got to be in good shape. I see. Yeah.

14:10

Good point. Okay, Danya, back to you. Natalia,

14:13

what are the rules of table

14:15

tennis? Well,

14:18

there's a lot of really complicated ones,

14:20

but the basic rule is

14:22

that you have to let

14:24

the ball bounce in front of you on

14:26

your side. So when it's served, you have

14:28

to let the ball bounce before you hit

14:30

it back. There are no volleys allowed in

14:33

table tennis. And if it doesn't bounce, then

14:35

it's the other person's point. So

14:37

that's the basic rule. It's pretty simple. How

14:40

many points do you have to get to win? Oh,

14:43

got it. How many points do you need

14:46

to get to lose? I

14:49

think fewer than the other person. Yeah.

14:52

Oh, it's a competitive thing. Yes.

14:55

Yes. And you're talking about you have

14:57

to have a passion to be competitive as well. Yeah.

15:00

I'm not going to do it. Okay.

15:03

Good. Okay, Danya. This

15:06

question's for Ian. What is the

15:08

story behind table tennis being invented?

15:11

Oh, I believe table

15:13

tennis was invented in the 1880s in Great

15:15

Britain. It's

15:19

mainly kind of characterized

15:21

by families playing on

15:23

tables using different books

15:25

as the net. And

15:27

you could use any

15:30

kind of material, in fact, as

15:32

the paddle or

15:34

bat, as they call it in Great Britain.

15:38

And then- Like a shoe? It

15:40

could be a shoe. It could be a

15:42

shoe, a pan. A scone, probably. Anything

15:46

that bounces can be used. Let's

15:49

hit a ball with our scones. It

15:51

would have to be kind of a stale scone,

15:53

I would imagine. Yeah. That's kind of

15:55

what we do with them. Very

15:58

cool. Interesting. Okay,

16:00

Danya, next question please. This

16:03

one's for Ian again. Which

16:05

country is table tennis the most popular

16:07

in and why? And why,

16:09

huh? China. China

16:11

is probably where table tennis

16:13

is the most popular. It's

16:16

the national sport of China. So if you

16:18

can think of how football

16:20

or basketball is received

16:23

by the public, table

16:25

tennis is the same way in China. Wow.

16:29

They have schools in China, so they learn

16:31

how to play table tennis at

16:33

very young ages of five

16:35

or in elementary school in order

16:37

to play at a high level

16:39

later on. That's so interesting. I

16:41

don't know if you would know this even, but- It's

16:44

because they have the most tables in the world.

16:46

Is that why? I was wondering how-

16:48

Yeah, they got- How it would start in

16:51

Great Britain and then China adopted it to

16:53

such a degree. That's pretty interesting. Yeah.

16:56

Yeah, well, China, they just have so many tables and when they

16:58

found out about it, there was a guy who came over, he's

17:00

like, you got to sell money tables.

17:02

I think you should play tennis on them. And they

17:04

were like, oh, okay, let's do that. And then it

17:06

became popular. I see, that

17:09

makes sense, sure. Yeah, something, yeah, a way

17:11

to use all their tables. Sure. Yeah,

17:14

exactly. Yeah. Okay,

17:16

Danda, you could carry on. This one's

17:18

for both of you. What is the

17:20

funniest thing that has happened at your job? Hmm,

17:24

let's see, who would like to take that one first?

17:28

Lisa had me laughing earlier because a

17:30

lot of the funny is where is the

17:32

ball? We lose a lot of balls and

17:35

they end up in the darndest places. I

17:38

bet, that's fair because you're hitting that

17:40

ball pretty hard, so it

17:42

probably goes really far. So who knows where

17:44

it ends up, right? Yeah. A

17:47

lot of archeologists devote themselves to

17:49

finding ping pong balls. Not

17:53

ping pong. That could be a specialty. Yeah,

17:55

but except that we're talking about table tennis,

17:58

would either of you like to explain what the difference

18:00

between between table tennis and ping pong actually is? Do

18:02

either of you know? Did I do a

18:04

faux pas? I'd do a bad job. That's okay. I

18:07

think it's a common misconception, right? That they are

18:09

the same thing. Unless maybe they are the same

18:11

thing. Are they the same thing? I

18:13

can explain the difference between ping pong

18:16

and table tennis. And there's kind of

18:18

a few iterations of ping

18:20

pong is trademarked by

18:23

the Parker Brothers Company,

18:27

children's, I think, board game company. Back

18:31

in the 20th century. And so

18:33

in order to kind of get away from

18:35

that trademark, professional

18:39

committees or organizations started

18:41

calling it table tennis because

18:44

ping pong was trademarked. And also

18:47

in a lot of ways right now,

18:49

people think of ping pong as more

18:51

of a recreational way of naming

18:54

table tennis. And table tennis is more of

18:56

the professional way of having

18:58

rules, all the main

19:00

rules of throwing the ball up six inches

19:03

and hitting the ball down onto your side

19:05

of the table. And

19:07

it's much more, yeah, more

19:10

rules. More rules. More professional, I suppose

19:12

is the idea. Okay, so

19:14

ping pong is strictly amateur,

19:16

yeah. Yeah, but I

19:19

don't see it as that way. I

19:21

think ping pong and table tennis are

19:23

interchangeable. And that ping

19:25

pong is actually a much more fun

19:27

way of calling table tennis, so. But

19:29

you don't get insulted. I

19:32

have been exonerated. Yeah, it's not an insulting

19:34

thing when people ask you about

19:36

playing ping pong. Is that correct?

19:39

If you get insulted

19:41

by somebody calling ping pong,

19:43

then maybe you should

19:45

take yourself a little less seriously. Great

19:48

advice, I love that. Yes, I agree with

19:51

you. Okay, good, thank you for clarifying. All

19:53

right, Danya, where were we anyway? I interrupted

19:56

with that question. Oh, right, funny

19:58

things, yeah. Ian, do you also? have

20:00

a funny, unusual, or peculiar

20:02

story about your experience with

20:04

table tennis? I

20:06

think the most fun that happens

20:08

is when you're with friends in

20:10

table tennis. So I

20:12

can't exactly name any specific things, but

20:14

I'm sure Danya can know that when

20:17

you're with friends, crazy things

20:19

happen. And just anything that happens that

20:21

might be funny is pretty hilarious to

20:23

you. Whether you accidentally

20:26

hit your friend in the face with a ball,

20:30

or if

20:32

they miss a serve, then you kind of make

20:34

fun of them a little bit. Tease them. That's

20:37

probably the most fun that me and my

20:40

friends have when we play table tennis. Yeah,

20:42

that would happen all the

20:44

time to me. Yeah, definitely. Does that

20:47

ever hurt? Ping pong on

20:49

the head? Does that hurt? Because it's going pretty

20:51

fast. Yeah, it's going pretty

20:53

fast, but not too

20:56

bad. I've seen bruises. You

20:58

have. I have not.

21:00

Okay, good

21:02

to know. All right, maybe we need to

21:04

invent some sort of table tennis guard

21:06

like umpires have. But yeah,

21:09

unless it's not really a problem. And then I would

21:11

just wrap myself in bubble wrap. I'd

21:16

like to see that anyway. Yeah. Okay, Daniel,

21:18

back to you. This question's for

21:20

Natalia. When and how did table

21:22

tennis become a popular sport? Well,

21:25

table tennis became a popular sport

21:28

because it started in Victorian England,

21:30

as Ian said.

21:33

And back then, you know,

21:35

there's there's a great picture of

21:37

Queen Victoria playing table tennis. And

21:40

in the Victorian period, everybody wanted

21:42

to do everything just like Queen

21:44

Victoria. So if you check

21:46

out when we're done with this, you

21:48

got to go online, check out this

21:50

photo, Queen Victoria in full regalia, crown

21:53

and everything playing table tennis. And that's how

21:55

it became popular. But then how it became

21:57

popular in China is because

22:00

it's a very cheap sport to play after

22:03

the communist revolution, then

22:05

ping pong really took off in China because you

22:07

don't really need much to play. You can just

22:09

stack up as again, as the

22:12

inside, you could just stack up some books and hit

22:14

it with a shoe, hit the ball with

22:17

a shoe across the books. So that's how

22:19

it became popular in China. Okay, fascinating. Ian,

22:21

this question is for you. Do

22:24

you have a role model that inspires you? And

22:26

if you do, who is it? My

22:28

father is my role model. My

22:31

father was also a Paralympic gold

22:33

medalist back

22:35

in 1992. And

22:37

he is the person who taught me how to play

22:39

and is my current coach right now. And

22:42

I think that I take a lot of different things

22:44

from him, namely within

22:46

table tennis, the discipline of understanding

22:48

how to control your emotions, as

22:51

well as knowing that

22:53

the fundamentals are very important and that

22:55

through that you can build off of

22:57

your game and compete at a higher

22:59

level. Okay, wow. So is

23:02

that tough with having a father as a

23:04

coach? I mean, does that ever get a

23:06

little tense at dinner time? Not

23:09

too much at dinner time. But when we are

23:11

training, we have had quite a few fights about

23:14

different things. So I'm sure anyone

23:16

who deals with their parents a

23:18

lot can understand. But

23:21

we know that we get over it. And

23:23

we are very happy outside of

23:27

table tennis. We don't fight with anything except

23:30

for table tennis. Oh, that's good

23:32

to know. Good policy. You both have

23:34

a gold medal. Is that correct? Correct. We

23:36

are both Paralympic gold medals. Wow,

23:39

fantastic. That's so cool. I want to

23:41

win a gold medal, Deborah. I want you to

23:44

win one too. Maybe there's a robot Olympics. I'm

23:46

gonna win. I'm gonna be a champion. And I'm

23:48

gonna find my dad and I'm gonna argue with him.

23:52

Dad, if you're listening, I want to argue with

23:54

you and win an award. Good

23:57

luck to you. Thank you. Okay, Tanya. This

24:01

question is for both of you. What

24:03

is your favorite serve and why? Oh,

24:06

who would like to take that one first? Oh, I love

24:08

when they serve artichoke and spinach dip.

24:11

That's so good. That is

24:13

delicious. But I think she was talking to our experts

24:15

about table tennis. Oh, okay. Oh,

24:17

that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. My

24:20

favorite serve is easy. It's the

24:22

short-sized pendulum serve, and that's because

24:25

it's hard to return. Oh,

24:27

okay. Is it also difficult to do

24:29

that serve? Yes. Only

24:32

the top 1% of all table

24:35

tennis players are able to do a good one. Wow.

24:38

That's tough. My favorite serve

24:40

is probably the tomahawk serve, because

24:42

that's the first serve that I

24:45

had learned growing up, and

24:47

that helped me a lot in the finals of

24:49

the Paralympics. So I

24:51

have to love it. You're not giving away any secrets

24:53

by saying that that's your winning serve, are you?

24:55

No, no. Watching the match, it was

24:58

very obvious what my

25:00

tactics were. I see. Okay. His

25:03

main tactic was winning. Yeah,

25:05

that's an important tactic to have also.

25:08

I have one other question. How

25:10

can you see the ball going so fast?

25:12

I don't understand. When you first start playing,

25:15

can you even track the ball, or does it take you

25:17

a while to figure out how to keep your eyes on

25:19

it? It's a little hard for me

25:21

to understand that because I've played since I was

25:23

six. So it's

25:26

kind of ingrained. I think

25:28

a lot of it is just

25:30

natural reflex, and sometimes you don't

25:32

see the ball, but your body

25:34

reacts pretty well if it's really

25:36

fast. But in

25:38

many ways, you've seen the same ball going

25:41

back and forth over the years. So that's

25:43

how you can track it. Cool. Very

25:46

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28:16

it's time for the shorts on fire round

28:18

when our experts have to answer as many

28:20

questions as they can before the time runs

28:23

out. Lisa will set a

28:25

timer for the first expert and then

28:27

Danya will ask questions until Lisa's timer

28:29

sounds and then Lisa resets the

28:31

timer for our next expert to do the

28:33

same. Experts! No time

28:35

to twiddle your rackets. Danya,

28:38

we're going to start with Ian. You

28:40

can ask your shorts on fire questions

28:42

now. What

28:44

is it that allows players to create

28:46

huge amounts of spins? The

28:48

rubber on their paddles. Which kind

28:50

of steps move you from side to

28:53

side? Shuffle steps. In the Paralympics,

28:55

table tennis has the third most

28:57

players behind which sport? Track

29:00

and field and swimming. Which country

29:02

has won the highest number of gold

29:04

medals in the Olympics? China.

29:07

When table tennis was invented, what

29:10

did players use for nets? Books.

29:13

Who was the first player to win a gold

29:15

medal two times in a row? Ma Long was

29:17

the first male player to win a gold medal

29:19

two times in a row. Factor

29:21

fit. Table tennis became an Olympic

29:23

sport in the Paralympics before the

29:25

Olympics. Fact. What is the

29:28

name of the shot that forces an error from

29:30

your opponent? A

29:32

winner? What 2014 documentary follows the road to

29:34

the 2012 Summer Olympics of three teenage

29:40

table tennis players? Top

29:42

spin. And

29:44

that is time! That's all the time. That's all the

29:46

time we got. Lisa, would you kindly

29:48

reset your timer? Yeah, hold on.

29:50

Let me get the wrench. Oh no. Okay,

29:52

good. Alright, Lisa

29:55

has reset his timer and

29:57

now Danya can ask Natalia...

30:00

Her sure it's on fire questions

30:02

now. Name it had

30:04

to serve the chicken Wings

30:06

Saucer Sisters. Have To is known

30:09

as the Most Sir as table

30:11

tennis yawns out of he's a

30:13

Swedish player I can't remember his

30:16

name, I know it's for same

30:18

beyond what table tennis Sir plays

30:20

damned and Nineteen Thirty seven the

30:22

singer sin what happens when a

30:25

player serve hits the nine goes

30:27

over to the other side. Of

30:29

the points, replayed, Places name of

30:31

the first robot Table tennis. To the.

30:35

Past several other I know him. As

30:38

he has asked, how high

30:40

is the table tennis match

30:42

six inches one was so

30:44

hard that Iran Table Tennis

30:46

and nineteen twenties, nineteen sixties

30:48

according to the Olympic World

30:50

Library How many players play

30:52

and table tennis tournaments every

30:54

year? Over ten million. Speak To

30:56

him. How do you choose What color

30:58

ball? To use, the higher

31:00

ranked player chooses. And

31:03

that is time. Ago revolves. I'm

31:05

sorry I thought of Egypt more but

31:08

okay, I'm sorry. out of my hands.

31:10

Way to counter drive experts. Okay,

31:16

it's decision time. Danya must

31:19

be our empire and call

31:21

out our table tennis trickster

31:23

Sanya who is our big

31:25

Ciber. I think it's

31:27

Natalia. Know, I do think Natalia

31:30

is our big sober. She.

31:32

Seems really nervous when she

31:34

answered the questions and he

31:36

and his answer his questions.

31:39

And I'm more clear away and

31:41

see see more confident. In

31:43

pay. Like that for time

31:45

going with their delivery and how they feel

31:48

when they're asking. For some. All

31:50

right, we'll the actual

31:52

table tennis expert Please

31:54

say your name. My

31:58

name is the inside so. That

32:00

is correct. He got it right

32:02

down. He inside and so is

32:05

the 2020 Tokyo Paralympics gold medalist

32:07

in the men's classic singles category.

32:09

He represents the U S as

32:11

a member of the U S

32:14

national para table tennis team and

32:16

trains at the Minnesota table tennis

32:18

Federation's training center in South St.

32:20

Paul. Congratulations on your gold medal.

32:22

Ian, that's amazing. We're so honored

32:25

to have you here with us

32:27

today. Fantastic. So cool. Thank you.

32:29

Happy to be here. Awesome. Okay. Let's

32:32

do some fact checking. Shall we? Ian,

32:34

what were some of the facts that Natalia

32:36

shared that need to be chopped? Um,

32:39

I think a lot of times we

32:41

call it a table tennis stroke instead

32:44

of arm motion, they're the basic strokes.

32:47

Um, we don't really watch too much tape

32:50

on the daily. Uh, it's more preparing

32:52

for tournaments because there's so many players

32:55

and we really don't need to specify

32:58

until too many. Um, Jan

33:01

Ove Waldner is the most

33:03

art of table tennis and one of the greatest

33:05

table tennis players of all time. Cool. Um,

33:07

and the ball is chosen by a coin toss

33:09

during the match. Um, and the color of

33:12

the ball is usually

33:14

white and chosen by the

33:16

tournament before anyone, no

33:18

one gets to choose the color of the ball. Interesting.

33:20

Are there certain colors that

33:22

are used or in the table

33:24

tennis ball at the any color? Generally

33:27

table tennis balls were either

33:29

orange or white, but right

33:32

now with plastic balls, it's

33:34

generally white. Okay.

33:36

Interesting. All right. And

33:38

Natalia, how did

33:40

you try to throw us for a

33:43

loop? Well, as far as I know,

33:45

there is no serve called a chicken

33:47

wing and I don't believe there's any

33:49

famous photo of Queen Victoria playing ping

33:52

pong. Oh, I was going to go look

33:54

that up too. That's too bad.

33:56

She told us to Google it though. Google and find

33:58

me a liar. Okay, very

34:00

good. And also just for

34:03

the record, the name of

34:05

the first robot table tennis

34:07

tutor is Forfias. Oh,

34:09

Forfias. I was thinking my friend Walter. He

34:11

does it as well. Well, maybe

34:14

he wasn't the first, but maybe he... Yeah, yeah,

34:16

no, he wasn't. Maybe

34:18

Forfias taught him. No, okay, scratch

34:20

that. So, Ian, you said

34:23

the Paralympics actually... So they

34:25

became an Olympic sport before people started competing

34:27

in the Olympics. Is that true? Table

34:30

tennis was in the Paralympics in

34:32

1960 for the first Paralympic

34:34

Games. And then table tennis was in

34:36

the Olympics in 1988 in Seoul. That

34:40

was a long time. Yeah, what took them so long?

34:42

Yeah, they were missing out big time. For

34:44

sure. All right, well, we played

34:46

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34:49

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34:52

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34:54

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