This episode, Events Director Amali (she/her) interviewed Michael Waters (he/him) to discuss his forthcoming debut book The Other Olympians, which explores the origins of the fight for trans rights within the world of international sports amidst the rise of fascism in 1930s Europe. The two discuss queer history, homoeroticism in sports, and their favorite Olympic events. Sources Mentioned: The Other Olympians by Michael Waters Trans Czechoslovakian track athlete Zdeněk Koubek Trans British athlete Mark Weston The historic Stonewall Riots An online hub for historical newspapers, newspapers.com Gay New York by George Chauncey The 1972 musical film Cabaret based on the Broadway musical by the same name The 2024 film Love Lies Bleeding The 2024 film Challengers The act of sex testing in sports French actress, dancer, and singer Josephine Baker The podcast Sounds Like a Cult by Amanda Montell The Age of Magical Overthinking by Amanda Montell The podcast Magical Overthinkers by Amanda Montell The International Olympic Committee, or IOC Nazi sports doctor Willhelm Knoll The track and field governing body World Athletics, formerly known as IAAF Chain Gang All Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah Historian Lindsay [Parks] Pieper Sex Testing by Lindsay Pieper The author Jules Boykoff Pierre de Coubertin, founder of the IOC The author Jules Gill-Peterson A Short History of Transmisogyny by Jules Gill-Peterson Sex Is as Sex Does by Paisley Currah Interviewer: Amali Gordon-Buxbaum (she/her) Interviewee: Michael Waters (he/him), author of The Other Olympians  Producers: Aatia Davison (she/her) & Jules Rivera (they/she) Music: Bex Frankeberger (they/them) Editor: Jules Rivera Voiceover: Jules Rivera Want the transcription? That's right here!