Host Katie Kingsbury visits Opinion's other podcast, "The Argument," to defend the editorial board's two endorsements for Senators Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar against her disagreeing colleagues Ross Douthat, Michelle Goldberg and David Leonhardt. They talk about the current political moment, each of the Democratic contenders, and the path to the nomination. 

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