Welcome geeks, artists and terrible people! In this episode of The Conversation Hat, Liam & Ben are joined by Richard Jackson of Val Verde Broadcasting to tackle the big questions of our time: What’s the point? Which of our relatives was/is the biggest liar? Can we get away with being as gross as we want?

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