Severe and sudden loss is how Kelly Richmond Pope realized her inner strength.  As an educator and entrepreneur, she has uncovered the truths inside fiscal fraud.  

Her day job is teaching accounting forensics at DePaul University - but she is also the award-winning director of the documentary All The Queen's Horses.  The film tells the story of the largest municipal embezzlement in U.S. history.  

Plus, Kelly is CEO of Red Flag Mania, an interactive and immersive accounting game that incorporates real stories.  In this episode, Lissa & Thom learn the pain that whistleblowers suffer for the greater good. Originally released September 17, 2020.