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Courageous Conversations on Sexuality, Acceptance, and Being True

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0:02

Come with me and

0:08

you'll be In

0:13

a world of pure imagination

0:16

. Take

0:21

a look and

0:24

you'll see into

0:27

your imagination

0:30

. We'll begin

0:33

with a

0:35

spin , traveling

0:38

in the world of

0:40

my creation . What

0:43

we'll see Will

0:45

define Explanation

2:04

. Thank you . He's a father , a brother

2:07

, an icon to those that know him .

3:27

He is Endeavor Empire

3:29

, thank you . So , yes

3:58

, yes , yes , yes , yes , yeah

4:01

, I know

4:04

how we do it y'all

4:23

. Yeah , we almost there . That's

4:31

how we do it , y'all . Yeah , that's how

4:33

we doing today , y'all . God , you know , like I

4:35

said , when you hear something , you gotta let it groove , you let it groove

4:37

. You

4:45

know you ain't gotta disturb nothing . Sometimes you don't need words

4:47

. In

4:50

any event , how we doing today y'all . My name is Derek . I am Endeavor Empire

4:52

. I want to welcome y'all to the show . Hopefully , everybody

4:54

is having a good day today . Every

4:56

day to me is a great day , because any day above

4:58

ground is a blessing , and I

5:00

love it blessing , and I

5:02

love it , love

5:06

it , love it , love it . Oh

5:08

, in any event , my day is going good

5:10

. You know

5:12

, just chilling . You know ain't doing too much of nothing

5:14

, just chilling . As

5:18

I just said , ain't doing too much of nothing

5:20

. What I am ? I keep repeating shit

5:22

, but

5:24

it's all good

5:27

. Oh , all

5:31

right . So we're back at it again

5:33

. No

5:44

, got another loyal listener who decided to get my opinion on something as well as I . You know

5:46

, love talking about these uh letters right now . In any event , let

5:51

us get into the show

5:53

and let us get it going by

5:55

the way , as I keep saying all the

5:57

time thank you for the listeners , thank you for

6:00

your support , your letters , your

6:02

follows , your likes . It

6:05

is all good and I'm just me

6:07

being me . What can I say

6:09

? But it's all good In

6:12

any event . This listener

6:15

writes to me because he is feeling

6:18

somewhat different

6:20

. I guess Doesn't really feel like himself . The

6:24

letter is entitled , so I Thought , and

6:27

as we get on to the letter and get into it , we

6:30

will see where he's going with this

6:32

. In

6:36

any event , this young

6:38

man's name is Jesse . Let's

6:42

get right into it and see what we can do for Mr Jesse

6:44

. Dear Derek

6:46

, how are you doing today ? Well , you know

6:48

I'm good . You know I say chilling today , you

6:50

know doing a little thing . I'm

6:54

writing you because I'm faced with something

6:56

that I need a stranger's opinion on . Well

6:59

, I hope by now we can be friends I mean ain't no

7:01

stranger ? ain't no stranger danger ? No , I'm just joking

7:03

. I would start by telling you

7:05

my name . My name name is Jesse . I reside in California

7:08

, sacramento to be exact . I

7:10

am 20 years of age

7:12

. I enjoy life and fully

7:15

live it possible , but

7:17

as late , I seem to struggle to come to the terms

7:19

of who I really am . You

7:22

see , derek , when I was younger I thought

7:24

I was just being funny and

7:26

immature , but as it

7:28

was until I thought I was something that now

7:30

I realize I'm not . Let me be clear

7:33

to you , derek , I'm not gay , or

7:35

at least I thought I

7:37

was . But looking back , it's

7:39

not what I thought it was . I don't

7:41

know where we're going with this , but it's getting interesting . I

7:45

know you're thinking what the hell's going on ? Yeah , I had that

7:47

exact feeling a few seconds ago and

7:50

I have a good reason to tell you how

7:54

I feel this was so . When I

7:56

was younger , my mom would dress me

7:58

in my house , which is I'm playing little princess and

8:01

, of course , me being a boy . At the time I thought

8:03

I felt left out , but looking

8:05

back on this , shit was never explained to

8:07

me . I don't mean to laugh , but

8:09

it's . It's funny . We'll get to that when

8:12

I say this because my parents , my

8:17

parents , had me . Well . What

8:19

? When

8:22

I say this ? Because after my parents

8:24

had me , well , they were divorced . When

8:26

I turned two years old . I never knew

8:29

the reason until my 18th birthday birthday

8:31

which of course , was two years

8:33

ago . Until that

8:36

that my dad was gay , not

8:38

like flamboyant gay , but just he liked dudes

8:40

, I guess . But

8:42

by that time I was gay , or so thought

8:45

. I grew up with nothing but women and

8:48

I was not told anything else on how to act as

8:50

a young boy . So

8:52

I thought this was my life until

8:54

I started getting older . I mean , my sisters were

8:56

supporting me , but no help , I

8:59

don't know about all that , especially

9:01

since we all like the same boys . That's awkward

9:03

, and we would often fight over who would

9:05

date them . That's even more awkward . I

9:08

know this story is off the rails . You can say that

9:10

again , but I'm sure

9:12

, but I'm sure it

9:14

will get better . I hope so . So

9:17

as the years went on , I dressed like a normal teen

9:19

with hidden desires , and never worn a dress , but

9:21

I did not try on panties

9:23

, although I have . I have to say wait

9:27

, I did try . Oh , I see , he said I

9:29

did try on panties , and though

9:31

I have to say , it's not as comfortable when

9:33

you have low hanging fruit . But

9:37

I was still confused on what I was

9:39

. My mom and sister assured me

9:41

that it was okay for

9:43

me to be different . I mean , we live in California , so

9:45

it's an everyday thing here . So I thought

9:48

, okay , I'm good . Well

9:50

, me and my sisters have

9:52

the same group of friends , and some are gay

9:54

, bi , straight , but my sisters are straight

9:57

. So I think , though , I

9:59

have seen them make out with quite

10:01

a bit of their female friends . Well

10:03

, yeah , we'll go down that . I

10:06

understand that's normal . I wouldn't say all

10:08

that well , or so I thought . But

10:10

they have boyfriends . I went

10:13

on a date with guys and thought it was , and

10:16

thought it was a hangout thing kind of thing

10:18

. You know , not really a date thing , but I think they

10:20

had other plans . Well , wonder

10:23

who laid that on thick . So

10:25

I had my first kiss and I thought it

10:27

was . I thought it wasn't bad . I mean , I thought

10:29

for sure it was like this is my life and

10:31

who I really was . So I embraced it . I

10:34

knew I was gay , so I started living with him , no problems

10:36

, went out and went on my normal

10:38

day and again , since everyone was on

10:40

board , I said it feels right and

10:48

it just went with the flow . No one really questions it . I mean , I grew up with

10:50

nothing but women and kissing , and

10:52

kissing a guy I thought it felt right . But as

10:54

the time went on and my curiosity

10:57

for the other side went unfounded or unnoticed

10:59

I mean females . When

11:03

I was younger , my mom and sister would often undress

11:05

in front of me because

11:09

the place we were staying in wasn't big as a shared room

11:11

with my two sisters . So I thought nothing of it . Derek

11:14

, I have to say , something happened to me

11:16

that I liked , couldn't

11:19

control or resist . A

11:21

mutual friend or a best friend

11:23

of me and

11:25

and my sisters recently went to a concert

11:28

and though my

11:30

sisters had worked the next day , I

11:32

decided to stay the night with our mutual friend I

11:35

see where this is going or our

11:37

best friend that sounds better , but

11:41

she

11:43

has a loft . I'm sure you know what

11:45

that is . Yeah , I'm not that complicit . Or you

11:47

know not that old . Really , I've

11:49

never stayed the night or done anything

11:52

with her because I'm gay , but this

11:54

is where . But this was a night to remember . Yeah

11:56

, definitely See where we're going with this . After

11:58

the show , we went to her home

12:00

. We talked about the concert and her boyfriend

12:02

, which

12:08

her home . We talked about the concert and her boyfriend , which is a dick . Sorry , I'm sorry , what

12:10

is a dick to her ? But so they broke up months ago for somebody who was gay . I missed

12:12

that part , partially due to work and

12:14

I hate drama . So back to the night in

12:16

question . We fell asleep

12:18

in the bed and then what happened at 2 am

12:20

in the morning was very unexpected . It was

12:23

dark , oh , let's get some music after that

12:25

. And no , neither

12:27

of us drank or smoked . But the one thing led

12:29

, but one thing led to another

12:31

. Keep in mind , I've never had sex with

12:33

a boy , let alone a girl . So we

12:35

kissed and derrick , damn , this

12:37

felt so good , way better than the guys

12:39

I kissed . Okay , I really

12:42

see where we're going with this . So

12:44

good that I immediately

12:46

stood at attention oh

12:51

shit . God , I love my listener

12:53

. This is awesome . I immediately stood at attention . I

12:57

don't know if this was planned , but I doubt it

12:59

, because she knew I was gay , or so

13:01

I thought we spent

13:03

the night well . We spent the

13:05

night well , mourning and passion . I

13:08

must say . I performed three times that morning and

13:10

one more time in the shower . It felt so good

13:12

. It's like winning the lottery . Yeah , well , you know

13:14

, it does have its perks . I

13:17

just want to say Afterwards we talked

13:19

about it and didn't want it to end , but

13:22

I told her she was the first and she said

13:24

are you sure you're gay ? I'm

13:28

sorry y'all we're going to get to this letter . We

13:30

really are . I'm so sorry . I'm

13:32

trying to make it make sense . It makes

13:34

sense . I just keep laughing because it's

13:38

funny , because it's I don't know , we'll get into

13:40

it . Okay

13:43

. And

13:47

I said I don't think I am , because when we had sex I loved every minute . It was so

13:49

good . We repeated it four times . I'm a man's , got stamina , I can tell you that . So

13:53

I told , I told her what , I told

13:55

you what led me up to being

13:57

gay . And though she was surprised and confused the

13:59

same time , she said well , I think

14:02

you're straight and you were lied to

14:04

, which , in my mind , raised

14:06

a lot of questions that were left unanswered . At

14:09

this point I was not so

14:11

confused anymore , but I want your

14:13

help in telling my family what newfound

14:15

addiction is . So , derrick

14:17

, will you help ? It's a sign

14:24

I'm on the right team now . Oh

14:29

, jesse , I gotta tell you , man , this

14:31

shit here was awesome . Oh god

14:33

, I love it . This is freaking awesome

14:35

. Hold on for a minute , let me hit this babe . Hold on . Yeah

14:38

, I

14:42

gotta say , man , this letter is

14:44

completely Dude

14:49

. This is freaking awesome , man , I mean , I

14:52

don't know how I can help you , but

14:54

I'm just going to give you you know my

14:56

thoughts on this , because we

14:59

don't share similar stories , but we do

15:01

share the fact that we grew up with nothing but

15:03

women . I

15:08

think that , for

15:10

me , being the only boy , went

15:12

around a lot of women . There was a lot of things that women

15:14

did that boys couldn't do . I mean , but

15:16

when you're young , you don't really

15:18

, you don't really know , because it's a play

15:20

thing , it's not like it's a serious thing , I mean

15:23

. I mean you play , dress

15:25

up , you play princess , you play house , you

15:27

do all this other fun stuff , but I

15:29

don't really think , um

15:31

, your mother or your sisters

15:34

left any ill intentions of

15:36

you coming the way you are

15:38

. It's just that you haven't had a chance

15:40

to experience the other side of the buffet

15:43

. I mean , well , you have . Now , I

15:48

don't know . I guess maybe deep down inside

15:50

you knew that you were different . And then you were

15:52

also curious about women , which

15:55

I'm glad that you got to

15:57

a place that you have now

15:59

discovered the

16:02

pleasures of a woman

16:04

, because you said you didn't have sex

16:07

with a guy . So clearly

16:09

, something was , something

16:13

was I don't want to say all , but

16:15

something was preventing you from taking that step further

16:17

, because maybe you didn't feel a

16:19

certain type of way . I mean , it's not

16:21

bad , I mean it's , it's you . I mean

16:24

you kissed a guy big deal . I

16:26

mean Katy Perry kissed a girl and she liked

16:28

it , but she's not gay . So not a big deal

16:30

, not a big deal

16:32

. Um , I think

16:35

that man

16:37

just just just listening to this . Now you

16:39

did say that your father was gay and that he likes

16:41

dude . Now let's

16:43

be clear , clear everybody . I don't

16:45

care if you're gay , straight , trans or whatever

16:48

, who you are , what you become

16:50

, it's your life . Nobody can tell you how

16:52

to live it . Your father's gay . Hey

16:54

, he's gay . Um

16:56

, you , clearly . I mean there's

16:58

again . There's a lot of different types of gay

17:01

people . I'm not trying to get into that right now

17:03

because I don't really know all of them , but

17:06

we share the same similar deal Cause

17:08

, like I said , I grew up with nothing but women . People

17:10

, till this very day still think I'm gay . I

17:13

have no idea why . I've got seven

17:15

kids who I love . I was married for 26

17:17

years . Every time I see somebody

17:19

hey , man , not just knew for sure you were

17:21

gay , okay , great . I think

17:23

they think that because I

17:26

was raised nothing but women , but

17:29

being raised around

17:31

nothing but women , it's not a bad thing . I picked

17:33

up a lot of good qualities , you know I knew

17:35

how to cook clean , sew laundry

17:38

. You know , keep my house clean , I mean , my

17:40

God . I mean I'm

17:42

like a Jack of all trades . I mean I don't sew

17:44

as much now , but I make blankets for my kids

17:47

. I used to do . You know , if

17:49

a button goes missing , I haven't made clothes yet . I

17:52

don't know if I'll get there anytime soon , but

17:54

it's

17:56

speak and you know , call them these derogatory names , because

17:58

being

18:10

in a household of women does kind of make

18:12

you emotional and sympathetic towards women

18:15

, especially since you know what they're going through , so

18:18

you can show compassion . And for me me

18:21

, mr Jesse that kind of worked Well into

18:23

my favor . Now I'm

18:25

much more of a lover than a fighter , but at the same

18:27

time I will not let

18:30

anyone disrespect my family , so

18:33

that will get you a good ass woman

18:35

. So I

18:37

don't think , hang on . You know , I got to hit this vape

18:39

. For

18:44

those of you who don't know , by the way , this vape that I , these

18:46

vapes that I this , this way that I can have , is called

18:48

fogger . Oh my God , it's like 10,000

18:50

. It's like see-through and it's got lights on the side

18:53

of it . You know you're going down the road . I almost got pulled over

18:55

Cause there's when

19:02

I started puffing it . You know , police , I'm just joking , but

19:05

it's a

19:07

good thing . But

19:12

I think your

19:15

mom did the best that she could

19:17

given the circumstances that had happened to her

19:19

, because your father left her

19:21

, or they got divorced because he fell in love

19:23

with the guy , and

19:29

I think we often get the misconception of that , just because our parents are either , a certain

19:31

way we have to follow , not somewhat

19:33

in their footsteps , but either

19:35

we don't understand the

19:37

way , the decision that they came to

19:39

, and sometimes it's not for everybody

19:42

. I mean , yeah , you're young . I mean there's a lot

19:44

of people in the world today that are young and gay . There's a young lady that

19:46

I talked to . She was . She's a lot of people in the world today that are young and gay

19:48

. There's a young lady that I talked to she

19:51

was . She's a listener of my podcast . Her son

19:53

is eight years old and she

19:55

told me that he was gay and

19:57

I talked to him . I was like , ok , I didn't

19:59

ask the question because it's not my question to ask . I

20:04

wasn't confused because it's her child . I

20:06

don't really know what to say to

20:08

that . I was like , okay , well , how do you know ? And

20:10

here's the thing , when

20:13

we were younger of course it's

20:16

not the fact that we really see things that we're not supposed

20:18

to , but if you lived in a smaller home

20:20

and there's like no room to

20:22

do anything as far as getting dressed , it's more

20:25

women than men . Not a really

20:27

big issue . It's

20:33

really not because you're young . You're young , you don't know , and you haven't had that . Talk

20:35

about the birds and the bees . So it's not really that bad . Playing dress up

20:37

with your sisters Again

20:46

, not bad . There are plenty

20:49

of . Don't think

20:51

that your decision is wrong

20:53

. I just think you have had some issues

20:55

in dealing with who you are or

20:57

who you're becoming , because you

21:00

, your mind , gravitated

21:02

towards what your sisters

21:04

or your mom like , and I'm pretty sure your mom

21:06

did the best that she could with you and

21:09

kudos to her . You didn't say anything bad

21:11

about her , so I'm assuming that she's

21:13

done everything that she possibly can

21:15

with you and for you . So

21:18

I

21:20

don't think that this is going to be

21:22

a big shock to anybody

21:25

. Maybe it's because she didn't

21:27

know how to proceed on how to tell

21:29

you , on how to international

21:33

. This is weird . Sorry

21:37

, I'm getting a call and I don't know who it is , so I'm gonna let

21:39

that ring , but in any event

21:41

, I

21:45

think that you know , because

21:47

how

21:49

can I say this ? Okay , oh

21:53

, I don't really know how to say this , but I'm going to try to say the

21:56

best way I can . So some women can try

21:58

to do the best they can by raising a man , but

22:00

we know that some women can't raise

22:02

a strong man , in this case my mom

22:04

. She raised me , so I came out

22:06

to be fine , you know , had a wife , kids

22:09

, I managed a home . So it's different for

22:11

everybody . Everybody's situation is different . So

22:14

no need to get upset , no need

22:16

to say that you were lied to . You just kind

22:18

of went with it and then they kind of just , you

22:21

know , didn't kind of give

22:23

you the facts of life , so

22:25

to speak . I mean , I

22:29

guess they waited till you got older , you know , to see if you were going to have questions or if you

22:31

are still feeling the same way you were as when you were little

22:33

. So I'm

22:38

not the one to say if you are gay

22:40

or if you're straight , but according to this letter

22:42

, you had a night of passion , a

22:45

night that was so good , you produced

22:47

four times and you performed well

22:49

. I mean kudos to you , I

22:51

mean because , as you get older , at best

22:53

, one for me , not just joking , I'm

22:58

just joking . I'm just joking . I know y'all say yeah , he ain't

23:00

lying , he's telling the truth , it's just one for him . No , it

23:02

ain't one , it's one . You know I get down

23:04

, you know it's uh . You know I get down

23:06

so bad . You know I had to take out , uh , take

23:09

out uh , insurance , damage insurance not

23:11

. But

23:13

listen , um

23:16

, you

23:19

want to talk about how you can proceed

23:21

? This to your family , I mean there's not really a big

23:23

secret . I mean , if anything

23:26

, I think they will be more happy

23:28

for you than anything . I

23:30

mean , the crazy thing is

23:32

, this is just the way . I think I don't

23:34

know why women can get away

23:36

with doing things with other women

23:39

versus what men can do with other men . I

23:41

don't know , I don't get it . I mean it's just a mystery

23:44

I haven't decided to unravel or try

23:46

to dig deep into . You know , girls

23:48

kiss other girls and then the next day it's peaches

23:50

and cream . You know we good . You know they got

23:53

a whole dude at the house . You know , I don't

23:55

know , a man can't do that . Hey

23:57

, doll , come on over , let's play some basketball . All right , let's hit

23:59

the chart . I mean , the first thing

24:01

you come to my mind yeah , yeah , that dude , he gay . Yeah

24:03

, yeah , you shouted me and everything , but

24:07

it's not

24:10

. I don't think it's going to be as bad

24:12

as you think it is . I think you should just sit

24:14

down and talk to them and

24:17

kind of just , uh , go with

24:19

the flow . So

24:26

I think that

24:28

you're going to be fine . I fine

24:30

, I think . I mean the good thing is , um

24:33

, it's a girl that everybody knows . I mean

24:35

, so she's friends with your sister . She's

24:37

friends with you . You guys had a good time

24:40

. If anything , I'm willing to bet you

24:42

that they're gonna

24:44

be probably more excited about this . I mean

24:46

, I know your mom's definitely gonna be excited . Because here's the thing

24:48

about mothers Grandchildren

24:51

. That's probably going to be the first thing that's coming to my mind . When is I'm getting

24:53

some grandchildren ? I don't know why

24:55

that is , but it is so

24:58

we both know . You know not trying

25:00

to be funny or rude Gay dudes cannot

25:02

have children . At best you can adopt . So

25:04

I think this will be good for

25:07

you . I mean to this very day

25:09

. Mr Jesse , you

25:14

know my sister often jokes with me . Every time I have to talk to her she always

25:16

thinks I'm having a coming out party . I don't know what the hell that is . I don't

25:18

. I have family members that are gay , but it doesn't deter

25:20

me the fact of I love them . If

25:23

your mother and your

25:25

sisters are supportive of you

25:27

now , I guarantee you that when

25:29

you sit down and talk to them , they're going to be

25:31

10 times more supportive . I'm pretty sure

25:33

your mother is going to be happy

25:35

because she is going to get some grandchildren

25:38

. Maybe not right now , not saying after you

25:40

hear this podcast , y'all get to business

25:42

and y'all start producing . That's

25:44

not what I'm saying . That's not what I'm saying

25:46

. Hold on for a minute , y'all . Let me get a sip of this red diamond

25:48

tea . I wish they would sponsor my podcast

25:51

. That would be awesome . I would talk all podcasts

25:53

about red diamond . No , I'm just joking , I wouldn't , but

25:55

it is good tea , oh

26:00

god . Red diamond tea in

26:03

this father vape just really can't

26:05

go wrong now , as I need a million

26:07

dollars and I'll be set for life . But

26:13

my

26:16

thing is how you want to do this

26:18

. So it's

26:21

just as simple as that . I mean , if

26:24

you and this young lady excuse

26:26

me really like each other and

26:28

she broke up with her boyfriend

26:30

, which was clearly a dick , maybe

26:33

this was a sign , maybe this was meant to be

26:35

, it doesn't sound like you have the urges

26:37

to be

26:40

gay , so to speak , because you dress

26:42

like a normal , regular dude

26:44

. So

26:49

it doesn't sound like you have these

26:52

urges . I mean you dress normal . I mean , hold on

26:54

what's normal though , right , what's normal ? So listen

26:56

, I

26:59

don't want to say the wrong thing here and I

27:01

don't want a lot of people coming after me from

27:03

my pockets like , oh , how do you know this . How do you know that ? Listen

27:05

, I'm just telling you to be you . If

27:08

you're , this is it's actually different , because

27:10

I haven't heard

27:12

anybody to say that they

27:15

were gay . But they're not gay

27:17

because they sampled , they

27:19

had a yeah , they had

27:21

a woman . You know , most of the times it's

27:23

either the other way around I'm

27:26

coming out , I'm gay , this

27:28

, that and the other Not . The fact that

27:30

we

27:33

went to a concert , one thing led to another

27:35

. I was at attention and I

27:37

performed well worth four

27:40

times , so

27:43

it was basically an encore

27:45

performance , it's basically what

27:47

it is . So I think you should just be happy . I

27:49

mean , I'm pretty sure after this

27:52

letter or this podcast airs , you'll

27:54

give me an update , because it doesn't really sound

27:56

like you had strong feelings . Um

27:59

, because you kissed a guy , you didn't I mean the

28:01

kiss could mean just a peck . You didn't say that there was a passionate

28:03

kiss or this , that and the other so . And

28:05

then the crazy thing is , you guys kind of like

28:07

the same guys , but did you , though ? Did

28:10

you like the same guys ? Or was this just I

28:13

don't know , I don't know . So

28:16

while

28:21

I commend you on this journey

28:23

, I commend you on this letter

28:25

, because this letter was just definitely

28:27

something different , and I've

28:29

never had a listener , um

28:32

, definitely say something like this . Usually it's

28:34

kind of the other way around . So I

28:36

think , if you like this girl , I

28:38

think that you guys should sit down and talk now . When you told

28:40

her the story , I'm pretty sure she was like oh yeah

28:43

, you were lying too , but again

28:45

, don't be too hard on your

28:47

mother . Again , it

28:50

sounds like she's a single mother and she was raising

28:52

y'all to the

28:55

best of her ability . Now I grew

28:57

up again with nothing but women , so

28:59

my mother raised me and my

29:01

sisters and I just took away

29:03

from that . I never got the feeling

29:05

or the premonition of I like guys , I've always loved women . I never got

29:08

the feeling or the premonition of I like guys , I've always loved women

29:10

. I mean , the good thing about having sisters

29:12

is that they had friends and I had a lot

29:14

of crushes and it's kind of like I

29:16

had my pick of the litter , so to speak . Not

29:18

saying it like that , chelsea , don't be like oh , you're kind

29:20

of female . No , I'm not . I'm just

29:22

saying I had options and

29:25

I had a lot of options and my sisters were my

29:27

wingman . My sister would often set

29:29

me up with people that I thought would be good

29:32

for me or they thought would be good for

29:34

me , not the other way around , because I was

29:36

shy talking to women . So but

29:39

here's the crazy thing is it's going to be interesting

29:41

, not really to see , but how some

29:43

of your friends or people

29:46

that you know react to knowing this kind of information

29:48

. I mean it's not bad . I don't

29:51

think you're gonna get a call from the lbgtq

29:53

and say listen , you definitely are

29:56

picking the wrong side , you need to come back

29:58

to us and you come back home . I

30:00

don't think they're gonna do nothing

30:03

like that . I don't

30:05

think they're gonna do anything like that . I'm just saying so

30:08

. It's not like when they lose one , you

30:10

know , the world goes to shit . I mean , trust me

30:12

, we're already the world's already interested in it

30:14

, and you going back to the

30:16

side of being with a woman is completely

30:19

normal . It's not a big deal . So

30:22

it's just that maybe

30:24

I don't think I don't , you know , I don't think you lose any

30:26

friends over this . I , I really don't . I

30:28

think , if anything , if your friends are

30:30

who they say they are , then they can be happy for

30:32

you and they will be supportive

30:35

of your decision . Now , I'm

30:37

sure you're going to have a lot of questions , especially

30:40

if you have friends that are gay . But then

30:42

you said you had friends that are bi . So

30:44

I don't really think how you would have this many questions because you had friends

30:46

that are bi . So I don't really think how you would have this many questions because you have friends

30:48

that go both ways . I mean , clearly I'm not sure if

30:50

that's what you're thinking , but you

30:53

said you've never had sex with a guy , so

30:57

, and you lost your virginity

30:59

to a woman . So what does that

31:01

say ? Yeah , mr Jesse

31:03

, come on down .

31:08

Hmm , sorry , come on down .

31:11

Sorry I'm hitting this bait more times than I should , because this letter

31:13

is really awesome , it's really good . So

31:15

I think

31:17

for you , sir , your

31:21

family , which I'm sure is a loving

31:23

family , again

31:32

, take time , take a deep breath . You know , just I'm curious to see . Well

31:34

, I'm curious to know how , after this podcast , how everything went . So I hope

31:36

you will reach out to me , but don't feel

31:39

like you're pressured because they

31:41

thought that you were this way . Just be

31:43

yourself , be who you are Again

31:46

. It is good for you . It's

31:49

probably good for this young lady who lost her

31:51

boyfriend and you kind of just stepped in

31:53

and maybe

31:55

this is what she was looking for and this was probably

31:57

a sign all along , I mean it's been

31:59

. I

32:02

mean , clearly you were saving yourself for something or someone

32:04

, but clearly , like

32:06

I said before , you had some reservations about who

32:08

you are , or so you thought you

32:11

don't have those anymore . I guess the feelings

32:13

now is that the feeling is that you

32:15

want to be with the woman that you felt

32:17

. I'm assuming you're in love

32:20

. I'm assuming it's just not sex , because

32:22

if you guys talked all night and that's the other

32:24

thing , um , growing

32:27

up with women and knowing what

32:29

they go through and when they have a breakup

32:31

and they have a show that they can cry on , listen

32:33

to . Yeah , the sex kind of gets

32:36

in there a little bit . I mean , probably

32:39

shouldn't , but it does , because you're

32:41

trying to understand what's going

32:43

on . It's a breakup and I don't think that you

32:45

took advantage of the situation . I think

32:47

you were just there as a friend

32:49

. I think you guys were supportive

32:51

. But where it went completely

32:54

good is that you guys fell asleep in the same bed

32:57

and one thing led to

32:59

another , and then it was like

33:01

you

33:05

know that ray of light that you

33:07

see when something good

33:09

happens . It's

33:12

almost like it's

33:14

almost like you reach the mountaintop and

33:17

you're so happy to plant that

33:19

. No , man , I don't want to say that because I

33:21

don't want that to come out the wrong way . Oh

33:27

goodness , hold on . But

33:32

I

33:36

just have to say , man

33:38

, this is like freaking awesome , this is

33:40

freaking great . I wonder

33:43

if you're in contact with your father and

33:45

if he says anything

33:47

about it . I'm pretty sure maybe it's . I don't think anybody

33:50

opinions matter , but your own . I

33:52

think that this is a milestone

33:55

that you achieve on your own . It's not like somebody

33:57

was forcing you to say

33:59

well , hey , you're this way , the

34:03

best thing you can do for yourself right

34:05

now , mr Jesse , is just be

34:07

happy . Now I will tell you this

34:09

it doesn't sound like you've had a lot

34:11

of serious relationships . It sounds like this young lady

34:14

could definitely be the one for you . And if

34:16

she is the one for you , you

34:18

take things slow , I

34:21

know , since you've had your taste of . I

34:25

don't mean to keep laughing , but it's just awesome , man

34:27

, it's , it's good , it's good . What can

34:29

I say ? You know I can't really say anything

34:32

that I'm

34:35

not really saying it's bad . I'm just trying to be inspiring

34:38

to you , you know . But

34:40

keep in mind

34:42

, whenever you talk about this and

34:45

I'm hoping and I'm thinking you won't

34:47

get any criticism about it , because

34:49

I think they want you to be who

34:52

you are and I think they want what's best

34:54

for you and how , what do in life

34:56

, what makes you happy . You're not

34:58

here to please other people , you're here to please

35:00

yourself . Now , when

35:02

you talk to your people

35:04

, um again , don't

35:07

. It's not a reason

35:09

for you to go in and go ham on them and

35:11

just start bashing me that oh , you lied to me . And there's no reason

35:13

for you to end up on nobody's

35:15

uh podcast show , or

35:18

you know Dr Phil , which I'm not

35:20

even sure if he's still around , but you

35:22

know what I'm saying . So just

35:26

continue to be subtle

35:29

, continue to be humble , because

35:31

again they thought

35:34

, or you thought , that this was

35:36

your life , but clearly this is not

35:38

your life . I guarantee you this conversation

35:40

will go every way that

35:43

you will think it will , and that would be on a positive

35:45

note instead of taking a negative note . So don't

35:47

take this as a negative . Take

35:49

it as a positive . Be happy

35:52

, be inspired , be

35:54

grateful that your mom and

35:57

your sisters were there to support you

35:59

. Now your dad I don't really know what to say . So

36:02

, since he's definitely on the wrong team

36:04

. Not just joking yeah

36:07

, no , I like making jokes . So your dad is

36:09

your dad . So , again , I have no

36:11

issues with either side . I don't care

36:13

if you're gay , straight , bi , whatever You're

36:16

a person . It's your life . I don't have

36:18

to live your life for you . You have to live your own life

36:20

. Be happy with the life that you

36:22

choose . Be happy on where

36:24

your life is going Now , when

36:29

it's going the way you want it to , it's

36:31

good . And let's

36:34

just say hypothetically , I

36:37

don't want to live in hypotheticals but , because I

36:39

mean , if they think there's like , oh no , you're this , you're

36:41

gay , you're that , and how did you know

36:43

? Well , how do you know ? I mean we slept over it . I mean

36:45

you're not really going to lose a friendship

36:47

where you're not going to lose family over this . It's usually quite

36:49

the opposite way around . But you live in California

36:52

so I'm pretty know

36:55

you see a lot of people , different

36:57

people , gay people , you know , and

37:07

it's not really a big deal . So my job is here not to bash gay people and say that

37:09

you did a good thing . It is for you to decide that you did something that

37:11

is good for you , not for nobody else . So

37:14

if you live with this decision and

37:16

this is a decision that you want- excuse

37:19

me , then it is all

37:21

good for you . So I

37:24

just hope that in the

37:26

long run , that this

37:28

is all good for you and it's great

37:30

, I hope that you and this young lady's relationship continues

37:33

to grow , continues to thrive , because I tell

37:35

you , I tell you one thing this is definitely

37:38

going to be something funny for

37:40

the ages . I mean , if you get married

37:42

I'm not saying you should , I should take this to the

37:44

wedding and you know , at

37:46

that toast , on how we met and how

37:49

we go , well , you know , I met because I thought he was gay

37:51

. But you know , one night after a concert , he

37:53

, he , he really put it on me

37:55

. I'm not

37:58

saying oh

38:04

my gosh , hold on . I got some tea . I'm starting to choke . Hold on

38:06

, hold on . That

38:13

was good , it's good , it's good , it's good so

38:15

.

38:17

Alrighty , so it's good , it's

38:19

good .

38:21

It's good . So All right

38:23

. So I

38:27

don't really have a lot more to say , but

38:30

I'm happy for you , I'm

38:33

happy for this young lady . I hope that in the end everything

38:35

can go on as normal and nothing

38:38

changes . It's just that

38:40

things are going to be not really

38:42

so much as different . But I'm sure you're a lot

38:44

more happier now . I'm pretty

38:46

sure you're happier with your decision . I'm pretty sure

38:48

that your family will be even more happier

38:50

with your decision Because again

38:53

, it looks like in the near future

38:55

there are some kids coming , some

38:57

grandkids . I

39:00

mean , your mom's got your sisters , but

39:02

nothing like the son who is

39:04

going to have grandchildren and you know

39:06

the legacy can carry on . So

39:12

just continue to be happy . So this might be definitely probably a short

39:14

, shorter episode , which is fine . I'm good

39:16

with that , and I just want

39:18

you to be happy with your decision

39:21

. So once you achieve

39:23

how happy you are and once you

39:25

think about it and you and

39:27

her have a talk about it , then you kind of go from there

39:29

. If you're

39:31

100% positive , this is what

39:33

you want , my friend , go for

39:35

it . Don't look back , don't

39:38

think about what could have been with this person , what

39:40

should have been with that person . If

39:42

your feelings for her are this strong and

39:45

you want to keep pursuing it , pursue it , do

39:47

it . I mean , you know I'm trying to say

39:49

not do it right now , but you know , but

39:52

pursue

39:55

this relationship . You know , continue

39:57

to be happy of who you are , continue

40:01

to thrive in life . You know

40:03

, just continue to be happy . Do

40:05

what makes you happy . Again , don't worry

40:08

about what anybody else says . I

40:10

think this is a good thing . I think this is a great thing . So

40:12

, as we get ready to wrap

40:15

it up , the show , we're going to probably close it out

40:17

early , because I got to say it's not really a whole

40:19

lot I can say . I mean , the guidance that I

40:21

can offer you is just be happy . You

40:23

know , enjoy who you are . The most important

40:25

thing is to enjoy

40:27

your life , to be happy . Nothing

40:30

can bring you happiness but yourself . Never

40:32

regret anything that made you smile

40:35

Today

40:37

. Focus on stressing less and feeling

40:39

blessed . Happiness is the best

40:41

makeup , and

40:44

there it is , there it is

40:46

. So , mr

40:48

Jesse , I hope this letter finds you well

40:50

. I hope that I

40:53

have given you what I can

40:55

give you . I'm sorry that I kept laughing , but

40:57

it's just a good letter . I mean , I

41:00

needed a good laugh . You know , we live

41:02

, we love , we laugh and we're just

41:04

going with life . You

41:06

know , the thing is , you just

41:08

continue to be who you are . So

41:12

, mr Jesse , I hope that after

41:14

you hear this show , that you will

41:16

reach back out to me and

41:18

tell me how things went . You know , I'm really

41:20

waiting for somebody to say that

41:22

they want to be a co-host

41:25

on the podcast or a guest on my show

41:27

so we can talk . But it's all good . Some

41:29

people don't want to do that

41:32

and it's not a big thing , because the

41:34

show is not geared towards , you know , putting

41:36

people down . If anything , I want to try to uplift

41:39

and inspire people and that's

41:41

what I try to do . So I

41:44

sometimes do not

41:46

have the right answers , I just try

41:48

to give you the best information as possible . Good

41:51

, I am not a

41:53

psychiatrist , though I have been

41:55

through some things and I try to give these

41:57

opinions to you in my perspective

41:59

, because we've

42:01

all been through something , you

42:03

know , and there are some things I haven't

42:05

been through . So , again , I'm not 100%

42:08

right , but I'm not 100% wrong . I'm

42:11

kind of somewhere in between and I'm good with that . So

42:14

I

42:18

think that , as day goes by and

42:20

the days go on , continue

42:22

to be happy , continue to enjoy your life , continue

42:25

to enjoy your newfound love and

42:28

just continue to be who you are . I

42:31

don't live for nobody , and neither should you . You should

42:33

live for yourself . Do what makes you happy in the

42:35

end . So , my friends

42:38

, as we get ready to wrap this show up , it

42:40

has been a tremendous honor

42:42

and fun for

42:44

you , mr Jesse , let

42:47

me say this has been great . So

42:51

, my friends , my

42:54

listeners , thank you for

42:57

being here for me , thank you for listening to

42:59

the show . As I said before

43:01

, feel free to email me d6empire357

43:07

at gmailcom . The

43:09

links to all my social media accounts

43:11

are in my description

43:14

of every show . I'm not giving

43:16

you all my number because , let's face it , I don't want you

43:18

to call me . No , I'm just joking . But

43:20

if you do decide , or anybody

43:22

decides , that they want to be a guest on my show

43:24

, there is a number that you can call . But

43:27

until that time arises , I'm just going

43:29

to keep that to myself , just not going to post my number

43:31

out there , because then you know , you get a lot of spam

43:33

calls , you know people hate mailing thing

43:36

, you know which ? I welcome the hate

43:38

, because I turned that negative into

43:40

a positive and I make sure that

43:42

it is all good . Oh

43:46

so , as

43:50

I hit this vape on last time , if

43:54

anybody out there feels like you are struggling with

43:57

something , that is that doesn't

43:59

sit right with you , I would encourage you to act

44:01

on it , talk about it , find somebody to talk

44:03

about it with , and don't let anybody

44:05

tell you who you are . You

44:08

have to decide on who you are , just

44:11

like Mr Jesse decided who he was . Anybody

44:13

can do the same thing and again , this is no

44:16

disrespect , no shade towards

44:18

anybody . That if you're gay , it's not , it's

44:20

not . But if

44:22

you are having , um

44:24

, conflictions about who you are , your sexuality

44:26

, and you want to question it within yourself

44:29

, I encourage you to find the answers

44:31

that you need . Find somebody that

44:33

is supportive , that you can talk to , not somebody who's

44:35

going to put you down and say , well , no , you are

44:37

this way . No , you

44:39

are who you are because that's who God

44:42

made you to be , and you can

44:44

be anybody you want to be , but

44:46

as long as you're happy with who you want to

44:48

be . Again

44:50

, I want everybody to be happy . You

44:53

know I'm not disrespecting

44:55

, I'm not shading anybody . I'm not saying

44:58

one sex is better than the other

45:00

. It's who you are , so you want to be . So

45:02

, again , it's your life , you have to live it

45:04

. You live your life the way you want to live

45:06

it . Be happy doing it . So , as

45:10

we get ready to wrap this show up , as again I

45:12

say to my loyal listeners thank you for your support

45:14

. Feel

45:19

free to email , catch me up on social medias . I'm on IG

45:21

, facebook , tiktok , which

45:24

I don't really like , but I'm not going to be on TikTok

45:26

for long , but hey , get

45:28

in contact with me , let's see if we can make some things

45:30

happen . So , my

45:33

friends , until the next

45:35

time , take care of yourself

45:37

and each other . God bless you all

45:39

. Thank you

46:06

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