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0:15

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0:17

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0:19

I know about it. Yeah. I've heard the

0:22

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0:24

know exactly what, who's the pedophile or

0:26

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0:28

know exactly who is the pedophile. I

0:30

suspect it's probably Drake, but I just

0:32

don't know the deets. You

0:35

know, it's like, I don't really know. I

0:37

mean, obviously Drake's a piece of fucking shit,

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hello the internet welcome

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to season 3 44 episode 5

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of the daily site guys guess what motherfuckers

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this is our 1700 fucking

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episode ever and I'm

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sure somebody in sight gang probably has a spreadsheet

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that will probably correct us and we're off by

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like 20 episodes or something but based on our

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calculations this is episode 1700 and it's

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been a wonderful ride these past 1699

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episodes being with you but this is

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episode 5 of season 3 44 it's

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a production of I heart radio

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as usual and it's the podcast

2:42

where we take a deep dive

2:44

into America's shared consciousness it is

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Friday June 28th Friday National Alaska

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Day National Insurance Awareness Day

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National Paul Bunyan man Paul Bunyan alright

2:53

shout out Paul Bunyan in that big

2:55

blue ox that you had ox called

2:58

babe or some shit he was a

3:00

real person about that nigga was I

3:02

don't know this you

3:04

know like those tall tales are

3:07

always like half real and half

3:09

being like some probably yeah like

3:11

just like man this guy was

3:13

a hard work Jesus yeah man

3:16

he was a community organizer just

3:18

like Barack Obama anyway my name

3:20

is Miles Gray aka miles on

3:22

the daily see with host Jackie's

3:25

knee miles on the daily see

3:27

does his best D scream yeah

3:30

okay shout out to everybody you know I do the Dean scream at the

3:32

top of the show shout out

3:34

to bottles and fans for

3:36

that scream inspired aka and

3:38

yes you know if I'm talking

3:40

first that means Jack is out you know

3:42

what he's enjoying a nice summer break so

3:45

everybody send your well wishes and wishes of

3:47

rest to him and his family as they

3:49

go on their little trip but

3:51

I am thrilled to be joined in

3:53

the co-host spot with one of my

3:55

favorite people to co-host a show with

3:57

Chicago's very own one of the greatest

4:00

game show hosts of all time one

4:02

of the funniest improvisers out there what

4:04

are the funniest people out there one

4:06

of the kindest human beings out there

4:08

please welcome to the microphone mr. Jackie's

4:10

new Oh Jackie's

4:14

on daily Z with

4:16

hosts miles G Jackie's

4:19

on daily Z and

4:21

we see they're

4:23

not like us they're not like

4:25

us they're not like us wow

4:27

what up what up wow did

4:29

you watch the pop out I

4:32

did watch the I was so sad

4:34

that I couldn't go right yeah I

4:36

was celebrating an anniversary

4:38

is what oh you celebrating an

4:41

anniversary and I couldn't go for

4:44

love yeah and really is it love if

4:46

you can't go to Kendrick on Juneteenth yeah

4:49

there's a real love like who do you want

4:52

to be with more I'm like really gonna

4:55

keep maybe well Jackie's it's really good to

4:57

have you I was thinking of you because

4:59

I read it some article about how Disneyland

5:01

is changing like their genie pass system or

5:03

something I asked on amble but you have

5:05

to stay at a hotel or something I

5:07

don't know anyway whack that's nothing and has

5:10

nothing to do with anything because we have

5:13

one of our favorite guests of all time

5:15

one of the listeners favorite guests of all

5:17

time this is a man who you

5:20

know has has really inspired the

5:22

imaginations of people across the country with his

5:24

YouTube searches and his niche interests and

5:27

obviously his love of cold brew

5:29

the poetry window will

5:31

consider that shit open because

5:33

we are welcoming in our

5:35

third seat our guest today

5:37

mr. Chris Crofton hey what's

5:40

up Chris welcome to

5:43

the Chris Crofton daily

5:45

site guys okay lovely

5:47

place such

5:49

a lovely place I've been through the

5:51

desert on a horse named Chris Crofton

5:54

it good to be out of the

5:56

daily site guys Oh love that meal

5:58

those aka is brought to you by

6:00

me. Damn. Wow. You

6:03

did what? First you did the Eagles and then

6:05

Neil Young. I know. I forgot about

6:07

that. Two champions of the white community. Last time. Last

6:10

time I did not know that song. I didn't know what you

6:12

didn't know. I thought Horsewood No Name was a Neil Young song,

6:14

but it's not. It's

6:21

some dude who is trying to be like

6:23

Neil. I guess what Chris was. Yeah.

6:27

Some dudes trying to sound like Neil

6:29

Young. Yeah. America. And

6:31

then you recognize obviously part of Jaquis'

6:33

AKA Not Like Us because like I

6:35

was quizzing you before, you have

6:38

intersected with the Kendrick Lamar beef

6:40

ending track Not Like Us. Yeah.

6:43

And I cannot, I can't believe I'm just

6:45

humbled as a white man to know about

6:47

it. Yeah. Well, you know,

6:49

and it's just a testament to how far

6:52

that has gone that a man my age

6:54

of my complexion knows

6:57

about this fucking beef. Chris,

6:59

was it like a thing where you're like, what, why

7:01

does everybody keep talking about minors and stuff? The fuck

7:03

is going on? And then someone broke it down or

7:05

you just kind of naturally figured it out or were

7:07

you on YouTube enough that you figured it out? I

7:10

just fucking, I'm online. Yeah. Way

7:13

too much. And so I know about

7:15

a little bit about Drake being accused of that

7:17

sort of stuff. And then I, but I didn't

7:19

know. I mean,

7:22

obviously, and I know Kendrick Lamar a little bit,

7:24

but so I don't exactly know. I

7:26

don't know. I know I've heard

7:28

this. I've heard the song. I've heard

7:30

the song. I just don't know exactly

7:32

what is going on or. Yeah, that's

7:34

fine. But I think that as far

7:36

as I can tell, it was a

7:38

big win for Kendrick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

7:40

And a big loss for Drake. Yeah,

7:42

yeah. But I think he'll be back

7:44

because Drake's like Avengers movies for the

7:46

music industry. Like they need, they need

7:49

him to generate hits, but we'll see.

7:51

The brand is pretty fucked up though at the moment.

7:53

So I mean, I say this like Drake is going

7:55

to sell records. Yeah, yeah. When

7:58

he makes a song. especially if

8:00

it's a hit, it's gonna get radio

8:02

play. But in

8:05

the rap community, that nigga is cooked. He

8:08

is cooked. Like

8:10

forever. He will be viewed as like, to

8:16

like hip hop fans. Right, for

8:18

sure, for sure. Capital H hip hop fans. Not

8:20

Drake fans. Capital H hip hop fans, exactly. You

8:22

know who you are. Well Chris, it's

8:24

great to have you. We're gonna tease out what

8:26

we may get to, may not get to, because

8:28

obviously when we got the cold brew gone on,

8:31

we never know where this fucking thing goes. We

8:33

might get to talk about how RFK,

8:36

while the actual presidential debate was happening,

8:38

had his own little debate by himself.

8:41

Then we'll talk about the latest

8:43

attempt at quote unquote comedy from

8:45

the right. It's a, I guess

8:47

it's like a all in the family

8:49

kind of version, I don't know. I don't know

8:52

what they're describing this. Look, you already know that

8:54

it's not going to be good. And maybe we'll

8:56

get to the fact that now Michaels will be

8:58

doing some voice recaps for

9:00

the Olympics, but using AI, because

9:03

it won't be him, just his voice model. We'll

9:06

get into that. Maybe more, maybe less.

9:08

We don't know with

9:10

all that, but first Chris Crofton. Yes.

9:13

You know the first question we always have to ask,

9:16

which is what is something from your search history that

9:18

is revealing about who you are, what you're interested in, or what

9:20

you are just trying to figure out in life. I

9:23

feel like this is gonna be, this is gonna

9:25

be a letdown. I mean, it's not magnet fishing.

9:27

It's not watching metal

9:29

detecting. It's not abandoned minds. Lately it's

9:32

been a ton of old

9:35

80s pro wrestling because it makes

9:37

me feel good. And

9:41

nothing else does

9:43

that for me quite that way. It

9:46

just takes me back to before AI,

9:50

before fucking all

9:53

the news was just about Donald Trump and that's

9:55

all. It just takes me back

9:57

to a time that it's, you know, It's

10:00

just a simpler fucking time when

10:02

wrestling was regional theater, when you

10:04

could be a fat

10:06

drunk guy and be a wrestler, which would

10:08

have been me. You know what I mean?

10:11

Like a time where I could have been

10:13

a wrestler, you could just show up. Yeah.

10:16

What's your wrestling name? What would be your wrestling name?

10:18

I mean, now would probably be some fucking cold brew

10:20

bullshit, but back then it would have been like, you

10:23

know, I don't know. Just

10:25

like, I don't know what the

10:27

thumbtack or some shit like that was.

10:29

Thumbtack. Okay. Hell yeah. Would

10:33

it be- The Thumbtack. You'd lift in anybody? The Thumbtack

10:35

would be the finishing move. I mean, it didn't matter.

10:37

You just peroxided your hair. Just like poking the bottom

10:40

of someone's- Right, right, right. You just peroxided your hair

10:42

and showed up with a hangover and you were good

10:44

to go. Put on some tights. Steal

10:46

them from a jobber. Wait, was there a show?

10:49

Like was there- are there specific wrestlers that you

10:51

watch that bring you this feeling or are you

10:54

just the aesthetic of 80s wrestling in general? You're

10:56

like, yep. I'm like in love with

10:58

it because for me growing up in, I

11:00

grew up, Jaquis in fucking

11:02

Connecticut and I grew

11:04

up in the part of Connecticut that

11:07

you would assume like the fucking, the

11:09

part of Connecticut that earned Connecticut its

11:11

shitty reputation. Like the golf and

11:13

the scotch and the fucking, except my dad moved

11:15

us there and then had a nervous breakdown and

11:17

didn't cut the grass and stuff. So

11:19

we had a different experience there. It

11:22

was kind of like being in an auto-clave. I

11:24

actually don't even know what an auto-clave is. But

11:26

it was kind of like being in something bad.

11:28

No auto-claves. Wait, what's an auto-clave? I think that's

11:30

where they sterilize. I've

11:33

never done a podcast before, another podcast before. So

11:35

I might be just saying crazy shit because I'm

11:37

all talked out or something. But now auto-clave is

11:40

not the right thing to say. Auto-clave is where

11:42

they sterilize surgical instruments. So that's not at all

11:44

what my childhood was like. It

11:47

wasn't sterilized. No, it was not at all.

11:51

It was a trauma fest. And

11:53

anyway, I didn't know what job to

11:55

have because where I grew up, this

11:58

happened. I don't know. if anybody can relate to this,

12:00

but when they're trying to figure out what to do

12:02

with a funny kid, they don't know what to do.

12:04

That's not a job, you know? So they're like, you're

12:07

funny, you should be a lawyer. That's what

12:09

they told me. Because there are only two

12:12

jobs on the menu, like lawyer or maybe

12:14

three, like doctor, lawyer, stockbroker. So they were

12:16

like, you're not going

12:18

to be a stockbroker because you talk too much and you

12:20

can't be a doctor because you talk too much, but a

12:22

lawyer, you could be a lawyer. So I didn't know what

12:24

the fuck I was doing.

12:26

I just thought I was going to

12:28

be a lawyer. There's no internet. I didn't know

12:30

what jobs there were. I thought those were only

12:33

three jobs. I thought the whole country just wore

12:35

fucking khakis and went skiing. I had no idea

12:37

what was happening. And then

12:39

wrestling, man, I turned the channel

12:41

and there was fucking wrestling out

12:43

of nowhere. Men, grown

12:45

ass men with peroxided

12:48

hair. Yeah. They were

12:50

making a living having peroxided hair as the main

12:52

thing they had to do to make a living.

12:54

And besides that, talk shit. Yeah.

12:57

Yeah. And just like, but they didn't back

12:59

then, this is the thing. They didn't have to

13:01

even be in shape or anything. They were

13:03

just alcoholics. And I was also an alcoholic.

13:05

Were they? What was, I mean, Jackie, I know

13:07

you're a huge wrestling fan too. Like I

13:09

know the aesthetic looks so

13:12

different now. Like everybody looks like they're

13:14

cut from fucking marble and shit, but

13:16

like it's true. Like we like hacksaw

13:18

Jim Duggan and those dudes back in

13:20

the day. You're like, I mean, you

13:22

definitely had, you definitely had more people

13:24

that were just brutes, you

13:27

know, just, just everyday men. You know

13:29

what I'm saying? Just the everyday Joe.

13:31

And then the other half of the

13:33

people were completely jacked

13:35

on steroids. Right.

13:38

It was no in between. It

13:40

was dusty roads or

13:42

Hulk, Hulk, Black, or Andre the giant,

13:46

you know, did you ever hear like a

13:48

room? I remember growing up that like the

13:50

ultimate war. I remember people, I thought the

13:53

ultimate warrior died because he did too many

13:55

steroids. I mean, was that a thing?

13:57

I'm sure he died because did

14:00

too many steroids. But I think this was

14:02

while he was still wrestling. I think it

14:04

was just like, you know, like when you

14:06

hear wrestling lines secondhand and you're like, that's

14:08

in the thing he may have, I know

14:10

he died in 2014, it looks like. Yeah,

14:13

he died, like he came back to, Vince

14:16

McMahon probably started that room and was like, I

14:18

hate this man. Started a room and he died.

14:20

Because Vince was very petty and you know, we

14:22

know a lot of shit about him now. But

14:25

then he came back to the WWE, which

14:27

was like a never say never thing. Because

14:29

you know, he hated Vince and the WWE.

14:32

He came back to the WWE, got inducted

14:34

into the WWE Hall of Fame, like

14:37

came to Monday Night Raw, did a

14:39

promo like the Ultimate Warrior, you know,

14:41

you guys are with me and then

14:44

died the next morning. Whoo,

14:46

that is wild. Like it was crazy.

14:49

I don't think he died from steroids like

14:51

in the moment, but he did long term

14:53

those guys, you know. It

14:55

ends up bad, man. Especially those 80s

14:58

guys died. Before that, you

15:00

could be like a normal, you know, you didn't have

15:02

to like, you could just be

15:04

sort of out of shape. It was

15:06

local, it all revolved around. I'm

15:08

talking about like, before

15:10

cable television, like elevated

15:13

like WWF and

15:16

took it like nationwide, they were

15:18

just like everything revolved around the local

15:20

TV station. So each wrestling community had

15:22

their own little, like

15:24

you can watch it on like vices,

15:26

Dark Side of the Ring talks about

15:29

the territories. Like, you know, it

15:31

was just like a very, it was like a

15:33

regional theater company full of, except just full of lunatics

15:35

that, you know, a regional theater company where you can

15:37

get drunk, like every day. It's like someone bleed, see

15:39

someone bleed from the head. And some

15:41

of the bigger stars would come to the other

15:44

territories and just drop in and then

15:46

you'd be like, oh shit, Rick Blair is here.

15:48

Yeah, and like Nashville. And

15:51

that was like, yeah, it was like a very, it

15:53

was very like very, it was very blue collar.

15:55

I mean, it was like, it was

15:58

not, it wasn't like everybody could get a job. in

16:00

wrestling. I'm not making it sound like it was a

16:02

union job or something. But it was much

16:06

closer to something that was

16:08

like, it hadn't been monopolized. There was

16:10

this guy, but the

16:12

stories make me happy. They're not

16:14

good stories. They're all usually about

16:16

just men behaving horribly. But there

16:19

was this guy named Buzz Sawyer. He died at age 31

16:21

of a cocaine overdose. Oh

16:23

my God. But the stories about him is

16:25

he was just a good worker, but

16:28

he was a terrible person. He was a terrible person,

16:30

but he was a good worker. So we liked having

16:32

him around, but he didn't bring his own stuff to

16:35

the wrestling. He'd just been

16:37

up for three days or whatever. He

16:39

was an ex college wrestler. He was

16:41

a very good wrestler, but he just

16:43

went berserk or something. And

16:45

he would show up to the studio and he wouldn't bring his

16:48

own stuff. So the jobbers, the guys

16:50

who would have to get paid 50 bucks

16:52

to lose to the name people, he would

16:54

just take their equipment. He would just

16:56

take their tights and their boots and then

16:58

fucking destroy them. He was horrible. And then

17:00

he beat the fuck out of him really

17:02

bad. I don't like watching his squash matches

17:04

because in the real matches with the celebrities,

17:06

he would hit them in a normal, nice,

17:09

fake manner, but he'd beat the fuck out

17:11

of those regular guys. He was not nice.

17:13

But my favorite story about him is they

17:15

went to Japan and Buzz Sawyer

17:18

was so fucked up like he always was. People were

17:20

always like, man, he was a good worker, but total

17:22

piece of shit. It's

17:24

so funny watching shoot interviews about

17:27

Buzz Sawyer because everybody's like, yeah,

17:29

he was a special one. He was not a good

17:31

guy, but he was a great, great

17:34

work. But he was going through customs and he didn't want

17:36

to wait because he wanted to go to a bar. So

17:38

he threw his luggage in the garbage. And

17:41

just so he could walk through.

17:43

Yes. Jesus Christ. And that's like

17:45

that was a story when customs

17:47

was probably easy as hell to get through.

17:50

Like the last time I saw him, he's because he died

17:53

really young. Like the last time I saw him, we were

17:55

waiting in line for customs all the way back from Japan.

17:57

And he just wanted to go to a bar and he

17:59

didn't want to wait. So he threw a his luggage in

18:01

the garbage and that was the last time I saw him.

18:03

I just thought that was such a power move to throw

18:05

your luggage in the garbage. Power move and so tragic too.

18:07

You're like, God, that's a little love love. I can relate.

18:09

You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like seeing the lighthouse.

18:11

I saw that movie, The Lighthouse. I

18:14

was like, that looks like the 90s. Chris,

18:17

what's something you think is underrated?

18:23

Something that's underrated is, hold on, let me look

18:25

at my notes here. I

18:27

wrote down Jimmy Webb and I

18:29

wrote down therapist. It's not very good.

18:31

I guess underrated would be, overrated

18:35

would be not going to a therapist, but also

18:37

overrated would be saying that just going to a

18:39

therapist is going to fix your shit. Like

18:41

I'm tired of people saying like, oh,

18:44

just go to therapy. I went to therapy.

18:46

Like I went to therapy and I got

18:48

it done and now you have to do

18:50

it. It's like, fuck that. Like it's an

18:52

endless, endless journey. There's no go to

18:54

therapy and get done with it. And there's a lot of like, You

18:57

mean like the perception that like merely just saying

18:59

like, just go to therapy and then everything is

19:01

solved rather than like, it's a whole process. I

19:04

agree that men will not go to

19:06

therapy, right? But just because you went

19:08

to therapy, like doesn't mean anything. Like

19:10

that doesn't mean you did the work

19:12

and it doesn't mean you're all better.

19:14

There's still many pieces of shit who

19:16

go to therapy. Right. And

19:19

then are like, now that makes me impervious

19:21

to criticism because I went to therapy. Oh,

19:24

that's how it works. It's

19:26

a, it's a constant journey like or an

19:28

endless journey. And so I started seeing this

19:30

therapist and I'm really just doing this because I

19:32

just, I want to figure out a way to tell the story. So

19:35

this is what you're here for. This is a new

19:37

therapist, right? And he's a dude and

19:39

I usually go to women therapists because I was raised

19:41

by my mom, basically. And I don't like men. I

19:44

don't like them telling me what to do because

19:46

I never had it happen to me. So I'm

19:49

very open with them. Sure. Resistant. Also, I can't.

19:52

I just don't like, I feel more comfortable with women.

19:54

I feel safer with women. And

19:56

so this guy was basically trying to tell

19:58

me that I needed more masculine. in

20:01

my life. This is just happening. This is like

20:03

last week. You know what I mean? And I

20:05

was like getting so mad because I was like,

20:07

what? What does that mean? What do you mean?

20:09

Yeah. Is that why you're watching wrestling clips? No,

20:12

no, no, no. Wrestling is my happy place. No,

20:14

that has nothing to do with man. Wrestling to

20:16

me was just like- You just said, I'm just

20:18

trying to connect the dots here. Okay. Wrestling to

20:20

me was, there's no dots. Wrestling

20:23

to me was like my introduction to like

20:25

art. I mean, wrestling to me was art.

20:28

This was people doing regional theater. I mean,

20:30

people don't say it that way, but that's

20:32

what it was. It was like little theater

20:34

troops. What is the therapist saying? What

20:36

exactly was the imbalance in your life that this therapist

20:38

is like, you need more masculine? What does that even

20:41

mean? Well, here we go. This is the thing. God,

20:43

I just took my hat off. It's like, there's some

20:45

light coming off my dome. So

20:47

he was just saying like,

20:49

you know, you don't have enough masculine influence in your life.

20:53

He started saying like how Carl Jung

20:55

said creativity was female. It was making me

20:57

like, I was starting to think I was

20:59

getting red-pilled. Right. Then that's what

21:01

it's called, right? At our big ass ages, we

21:04

ain't got dude. At this point, it's too late,

21:06

bro. Yeah. Like, yeah. You're not an eight year

21:08

old boy with an absent

21:10

father. You're supposed to

21:12

hang out with truckers? So

21:15

here's, what do you want me to do?

21:17

What do you want me to hang out

21:20

with truckers? Becoming some lot lizard? Like, come

21:22

on now. Are

21:24

you telling me to become a lot lizard? Yeah, kind

21:26

of. I think we fit. Standing

21:30

up with cold brew all over my face. Are you

21:32

telling me to become a lot lizard? Yes.

21:35

Yes, I am. So no, I guess his point was,

21:37

I think I understood his point, but at first it

21:39

was like, that was, I took it like, what are

21:41

you talking about? Like, so he said, what do you

21:44

think is a good quality in a man? And

21:47

I seriously was like, oh,

21:52

I was like, what do men represent

21:54

in terms of good qualities? Yeah. You

21:56

know, another pause. And

21:59

I finally said. Kindness? No,

22:01

I said, well, that's not true. That's

22:05

all I can get. I couldn't think of

22:07

a single thing. Well, why is it also

22:09

specific to gender? Well, that is true. Or

22:11

being like a person. Is

22:14

there a specific thing you need as a

22:16

man versus just as a human being, qualities

22:18

that make a person- I think

22:20

he was trying to say in my life,

22:22

having a dysfunctional father, who I love my

22:24

father, but he was an example. He was

22:26

a cautionary tale. All I could learn from

22:28

him is what not to do. And he

22:31

didn't talk to me. So I had no-

22:33

and because he was wanting to talk about

22:35

fucking Stalin only, he had

22:37

no friends. So

22:40

he had no friends. Like, yo, his friends, there

22:42

are no men around anyway. My

22:44

dad would chase them all away because any man that

22:46

came around wanted to talk about fucking

22:48

football. And my dad was like, yeah,

22:51

but what about the Holocaust? What about letting

22:53

grad? Well, I'll see you later. Because

22:55

my dad just thought associating- he wanted to let

22:57

people know that he'd had a lot of trauma

23:00

and that that was what he thought about. That's what

23:02

I think about trauma. That's not-

23:05

most people don't want to hear about that all the

23:07

time, including me growing up. I

23:09

don't want to hear only

23:11

about Stalin, but that's what happened. So

23:14

I was like, well, I

23:16

gotta- You don't? My dad talks about Stalin

23:18

so much, we were talking about thinking about getting a Stalin

23:20

belt buckle. Seriously,

23:24

but it's just him trying to say that he

23:26

understands injustice. That's what he thinks about.

23:28

You might want to talk about football. I want to talk

23:30

about Stalin. Right. He's leading with that just

23:32

to kind of show you where he's at. It's him trying to seem

23:35

like an intellectual. So there

23:37

are just no men around. And I think his

23:39

point was that, like, that I need- I do

23:42

feel like that

23:44

absence in my life when I go around the

23:46

world, if I meet a man that has shit

23:48

even remotely together, I'm kind of like, daddy? Like,

23:51

it's pretty embarrassing. It's

23:53

like, you know, I feel this instinct when I'm around some dude

23:55

who's got his shit together that I want to move into his

23:57

house. And I don't know

23:59

what that is. and it's kind of embarrassing. And now

24:01

I know I didn't know what it is. And now

24:04

I know what it is. Oh, it's just like simply

24:06

that I am like not used to a dude that

24:09

is kind and has his shit together. I did

24:11

not have them around. And they

24:13

do exist. So I guess that was

24:15

his point was to try and find

24:18

some positive role models that are men.

24:20

And in this case, through AA because

24:23

that's my right. So what

24:25

you're saying, Chris, is you

24:27

went to therapy and

24:29

you're all better now. No,

24:31

no, no. No, what is really what it really I was just trying

24:33

to figure out a way to tell this

24:38

story about how he asked me what was good about

24:40

men. And it took me like an ice was quiet

24:42

for like an hour and then finally said kindness. Now

24:44

that's not true. Right. So that's that was really why

24:46

I wanted to bring it up. But I also do

24:48

want to bring up that we all need tending to

24:50

and I mean that in a positive way. I don't

24:52

mean to say like if you say you went to

24:54

therapy, that's good. But there is no went to therapy

24:56

in my opinion. First of all, you could have the

24:58

worst therapist in the world. You can get a therapist

25:00

that'll tell you anything. Sure. You know, my dad went

25:03

to therapy for years and told the therapist that he

25:05

was a genius in his family was holding his hip

25:07

him back, you know, and that's all the therapist knew.

25:09

Reinforce that probably. So when the yeah, and that's a

25:11

therapist going to go on what they're told. So when

25:14

the therapist met us, you know, he

25:16

was like, there's the people that help held my client

25:18

back. Right. We were like, no fucking idea. You want

25:20

to hear what really happened? You know, so

25:23

anyway, my therapist to this day thinks

25:25

I've had an affair with Beyonce, you know, talking

25:28

about I can't

25:32

get anything done. Beyonce will not stop blowing up.

25:34

First of all, I'm on my phone. Really? You

25:36

know, I've had some shitty therapy. I had one

25:38

dude tell me that I shouldn't let women have

25:40

sex with me on top with a woman on

25:43

top. What? Yeah. But

25:47

he was really trying to tell you, Miles, what you

25:49

got to be doing this work. He's like, you need

25:51

to actually be like, you know, like as a man,

25:53

this might be the same guy. I was like, what

25:55

the fuck? What's this guy's name? I'll

25:57

tell you later, but now this dude sounds like my guy. Was

26:00

this a therapist of color? He

26:03

was like he was ethnically

26:06

ambiguous. He was not I

26:08

could not put my finger on it But I would not

26:11

say that he was white. Okay, he

26:13

was spicy, but yeah. Yeah, there was

26:15

some flavor in there I couldn't quite pinpoint it. You

26:17

never found out No, because

26:19

after that I was like this dude is

26:21

tripping bro Like like how what the fuck

26:23

does that have to do with my fear

26:25

of failure? You know what I mean? I'm

26:27

like I'm in here trying to sort out some real shit And

26:29

then your solution is like don't let them women get on top

26:31

you that's how you gonna lose your erection Girl

26:36

you boy don't let them yeah cow girl like you

26:38

don't want a woman to dominate you do you I'm

26:40

like That's funny For

26:51

like a week or two Man

26:56

like what the fuck no you know what

26:58

I mean? I want to you know work

27:00

the middle anyway So

27:03

Chris that was your overrated. What's your underrated? I don't

27:05

even know that was in terms of an overrated Underrated

27:08

I would say telling boomers

27:10

to shut the fuck up. Why

27:12

are you right now? Yeah underrated? Yeah, people

27:14

do not about what about what about everything?

27:16

So I just supposed to be a step

27:18

on my mom supposed to be dead already

27:21

first of all so everything they say They're

27:25

supposed to be dead or at least they shouldn't be

27:27

allowed to vote okay And

27:30

I like that that's why you know

27:33

your presidential bid is alluring to me.

27:35

Oh, I'm serious Oh anybody over 70

27:37

can't vote in my America Fucking

27:40

way yeah, yeah, certainly not only them which you

27:42

ain't gotta deal with it You ain't gotta deal

27:44

with it you have a specific law like a

27:46

specific like things on a ballot like all right

27:48

This is for the seniors like right let's vote

27:50

on social security and stuff yeah Yeah, or just

27:53

give them a fake slate of things like Fox

27:55

News stuff, but if they vote on it, but

27:57

it doesn't go anywhere If the effects of a

27:59

certain bill will go further than this person's lifespan,

28:01

then yeah, I think then maybe you should let

28:03

the people that have to deal with it have

28:05

to say that. You could also give them a

28:08

fake slate. If they feel bad, they could have

28:10

their own fake slate where they voted for gas

28:12

stoves or whatever they like to do. You know?

28:15

Like, they're also like, no, you can't take away my stove. Were

28:17

you also about to say Jimmy Webb? I know you, who the

28:19

fuck are you? Do you know who Jimmy Webb

28:21

is? No, no, because I always wanted to put me on the game.

28:23

So who's Jimmy Webb? Jimmy Webb is

28:25

the guy who wrote Wichita

28:27

lineman. Oh. Wichita lineman.

28:29

What is that? He wrote, by

28:31

the time I got to Phoenix. Oh.

28:33

By the time I get to Phoenix.

28:36

Do you know what those songs are? Okay,

28:38

okay. Well, I mean, I forget sometimes that

28:40

I am old, but this reminds me. That's

28:42

why I like to come on the daily

28:44

side guys to just confuse Miles about like,

28:46

you know, who Neil Young is. And

28:50

so, so Jimmy Webb wrote, if you ever

28:52

heard of the band, the Fifth Dimension? No.

28:54

Vaguely. They were big, big,

28:57

big band in the late 60s. So when

28:59

Jimmy Webb was 17 years old, he became

29:01

a songwriter for, on a huge level. He

29:03

moved from Oklahoma to Hollywood to become a

29:05

songwriter. And when he was 17, he

29:08

started writing major hits. And

29:10

actually he did his best writing when he was 17 and 18 years old. And

29:13

then after that, he kind of got into

29:15

drugs and he was a horrible person, like

29:18

all the fucking sex shit. And don't

29:20

even look him up. Oh, God. I mean,

29:22

he did, you know, it's like, He would never let the woman

29:24

on top. Oh, yeah. He didn't. Yeah,

29:27

he did. He'd seriously probably be there for

29:29

years on the advice of his karate teacher.

29:33

But you know, karate teachers were

29:35

also like therapists back then.

29:38

Right. Of course. That

29:40

was the man's first therapist. It was like, yeah, like

29:42

karate man. Every now and then the karate teacher just

29:44

be like, how are you doing, man? Yeah,

29:47

my wife left me too, man. She never asked

29:49

me that before. No man has ever asked me

29:51

how I was doing. Right. Right.

29:55

Who's written some of the greatest songs ever

29:57

that I love very much. I love the

29:59

song, the moons of harsh mistress. And as a

30:01

song. writer, Moon's A Harsh Mistress was a

30:03

hit for Linda Ronstadt, a hit for Glenn

30:05

Campbell. Glenn Campbell was the main guy that

30:07

he wrote for. Okay. He also wrote The

30:09

Highwayman, that song, that doesn't matter.

30:11

Fucking, they're all these like, legendary,

30:13

to quote Neil Hamburger, legendary, legendary songs.

30:15

You know what I mean? Like Jimmy

30:17

Webb, I thought would be fun to

30:19

go see because he was in town.

30:22

And I was like, I never go to see concerts. And

30:24

there are times where I miss concerts that I'm like, oh,

30:26

that's probably gonna be lame. But then

30:29

people say, oh, I went and saw Todd Rundgren

30:31

or whatever. And it was incredible. You know what

30:33

I mean? Because I'm looking at a Todd Rundgren

30:35

show and I'm thinking, he's 70 whatever years old.

30:37

He's gonna suck. He's gonna play like, he's

30:40

gonna play, I don't

30:42

know, all keyboard set or something of his guitar music. Or

30:44

I think he's gonna do some weird shit that I don't

30:46

want to see because he's old. But then sometimes I miss

30:48

those shows and people say you missed it, it was great.

30:51

So I decide I'm gonna get tickets. There's 60 bucks each

30:53

plus a fee. So it's like $140 investment. It's

30:56

at the Country Music Hall of Fame here in Nashville. And

30:59

Jimmy Webb's 77 years old, right? But he wrote those

31:01

hits when he was 17. So that

31:03

means the people listening to him were 30, which means his fans

31:05

are 90 years old. Right.

31:09

So the show, what were the vibes like at the show?

31:12

Fucking Cracker

31:14

Barrel. Oh, good ass

31:16

pancakes and biscuits. Cracker Barrel,

31:18

fucking, I don't know, insurrection.

31:22

Now let me tell you though, let me tell you, black

31:24

people love them from Cracker Barrel. We love them racist pancakes.

31:26

Actually, that was too hard on Cracker. I love Cracker Barrel

31:28

too. That's the first time I ever had an action. Cracker

31:30

Barrel is the only place I ever ate where I had

31:32

proper amount of food. I

31:37

grew up, like we were not, like my mom didn't know how to cook

31:40

food. I remember you saying this. She

31:42

knew, yeah, she only cooked for four and we had six

31:44

and she didn't know how to cook for more. And she'd

31:46

be like, listen, I know it's not enough food, but everybody

31:48

can just shut up. I hate fucking cooking. Anyway,

31:51

so he, uh, what? So

31:53

anyway, the Jimmy Webb show was pretty cool,

31:56

huh? No, what happened? So listen, so listen.

31:58

So I love, so I love these Jimmy

32:00

Webb songs. I'm putting aside like just because

32:02

fucking David Bowie and Mick Jagger and Robert

32:04

Plant, they all were having sex in

32:07

ways no one wants to think about. So

32:09

I do, I love the song. So I

32:11

did that. First of all, I went through that

32:13

separated art from artists. I'm like, I love these

32:15

songs. I'm a songwriter. I want to see this

32:17

guy. This guy's a master songwriter. I want to

32:19

see him live. He's 77. He's

32:21

probably not going to be doing this much longer. But

32:24

it turns out he's vibrant. He's fine. He's

32:26

bragging. He played four songs in

32:28

an hour and 10 minutes. The rest of the

32:30

time he talked. I

32:32

didn't know it was songs and stories. So

32:35

he just told stories. I

32:38

know everything about everything from YouTube.

32:40

I know everything there is to know about

32:42

the 60s and the 70s and also just

32:45

for being alive with the fucking boomers battering

32:47

me over the head, over and over again

32:49

with Woodstock and fucking grainy

32:51

footage of the fucking, you

32:53

know, the goddamn, I don't know, Led Zeppelin,

32:55

whatever, just the good old days of a

32:58

million years ago that we've had to live

33:00

with as if like just over and

33:02

over be told the best time in life was 70 years

33:05

ago and everyone alive now doesn't know how

33:07

great it was because these fools have had

33:09

control of our TV airwaves for the last

33:11

50 years and they've just rebroadcast Woodstock. And

33:14

so the point is? The point is

33:16

that I almost went crazy in

33:19

that show. He was telling stories.

33:22

He said Laurel Canyon. I was like, you fucking

33:24

say. You boomer, you say

33:26

Laurel Canyon one more fucking time to me.

33:28

Say it. Say Laurel Canyon, you

33:30

piece of fucking shit. Stop talking.

33:33

You know what I'm talking about? I'm

33:35

talking about those things that they have

33:38

hypnotized generation after generation. They're shitty childhood

33:40

is the best child. And

33:42

that's all he did the whole time is he

33:45

talked about how great it was and how songwriters

33:47

today aren't as good. All the good ones are

33:49

dead. It was just one of these things where

33:51

boomers do not know, right? You

33:54

don't talk for 25 fucking minutes. When

33:57

you pay people, hit $60, you play a

33:59

fucking song. Yeah, exactly.

34:01

It's true, maybe. All right.

34:04

Well, Chris, we're going to have to take a quick

34:06

break. But when we come back, I'm

34:08

going to have to get everyone's take on the

34:10

latest bit of comedy from the right wing, because

34:13

we've got a pretty good, pretty

34:15

good panel here to discuss this. We're going to

34:17

take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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we're back. So the

37:03

right wing they're trying to do comedy

37:05

again, there is a new terrible fucking

37:08

cartoon as they described sitcom because they

37:10

have canned laughs in it dropped on

37:12

Twitter. And it's as bad as you'd

37:15

imagine. It's called the new norm about

37:17

a guy named norm. And the creators

37:19

have been like pitching this for a

37:21

while because and it's also gotten zero

37:24

traction because it's awful and bad and

37:26

regressive. And like they've been

37:28

telling potential networks like it's like

37:30

a spiritual companion to all in

37:32

the family, but like without the

37:34

self awareness at all. And the

37:36

creators behind this mess uploaded

37:39

like a three minute clip that we

37:41

just watched. They're calling it a pilot

37:43

and they are begging people for money

37:45

to help as they literally describe it

37:47

to quote fight the woke mind virus.

37:50

The jokes were as

37:53

predictable as everything you think right when comedy

37:55

is which is basically saying like trying to

37:57

be like I can't like it all distills

38:00

down to these people are

38:02

different and they want respect. That's so

38:04

fucking dumb. Ha ha ha ha ha.

38:07

And then they use whatever culture war shit.

38:09

There was like a rainbow can of beer.

38:12

Later on in the episode, I guess

38:14

the kids, like the high school they

38:16

go to was renamed Colin Kaepernick High

38:18

School. And everything was like, oh, so

38:20

woke, Chris. You look you

38:22

haven't your facial expression has expression has

38:25

not changed, I think, since that came

38:27

on. And I'm just mad. I

38:31

mean, to me, it's like a

38:33

Nazi sitcom making fun of Jews. I mean, it's

38:35

the same fucking shit. It's not even it's

38:38

not even what is

38:40

just code for. Vermin

38:43

and and Jews. And it's not it's

38:45

not it's not a thing. It's

38:48

just it's just a code word

38:50

for everything. Non white, non non

38:53

white, non non straight. I

38:55

mean, it's not it's not

38:58

fucking funny, but it's like

39:00

not only is it not funny, it's

39:02

it's violent. I mean, whatever that that

39:04

person was calling that guy that in

39:07

that clip. Yeah, well, of course, yeah, everything.

39:09

And there's like jokes about identifying as inanimate

39:11

objects, which is a thing, you know, homophobic,

39:13

transphobic people love to do and be like,

39:15

oh, yeah, like this person identifies as a

39:17

there's like a thing where a guy was

39:19

joining a high school karate class because I

39:21

identify as like a 17 year old high

39:23

school student. And they're like,

39:25

yeah, so so so the whole thing,

39:27

I don't know if people remember how

39:29

Nazis came to power, but they they

39:32

talked about what they described

39:34

as like basically their idea,

39:36

the same exact thing is

39:38

what I'm about to say,

39:40

they accused minorities of subverting

39:43

the fabric of Germany. Yeah,

39:45

they wanted a throwback to

39:47

later hosen and white people.

39:49

It was just make Germany

39:52

great again. And that's

39:54

exactly what this is. And that's why it's

39:56

not funny. It's not even and it's disguised

39:58

because now they know. enough to not they

40:00

can't come back wearing outfits that have like

40:02

a big logo on them that say, you

40:05

know, that say like forthrike, they can't

40:07

make it like a thing that like a like

40:09

a like an anti woke like

40:11

design that is reminiscent of swastika but

40:13

that's what this shit is. So it's

40:15

like and they're trying to sneak it

40:17

into the discourse by saying it's a

40:19

TV show. And and that's what

40:22

and they got Dave Rubin, who is a

40:24

gay man that is is

40:26

one of these people that like thinks, I

40:29

don't know that he's going to be safer if he hides

40:31

in the in the complex that wants to eradicate him.

40:33

You know what I mean? Like this is just like this

40:38

is this is like the version

40:40

of collaborators. I hate to say it. But you

40:42

know, like fucking Dave Rubens a collaborator like I don't

40:44

even know who Larry Elder is. But I know who

40:46

Dave Rubin is because I look I

40:48

watch Sam Cedar and Sam Cedar just makes

40:50

fun of Dave. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, Larry

40:53

Elder he ran for he ran for governor

40:55

in California. Yeah. And he's like a black

40:57

conservative like talk person. Jackie's not only is

40:59

it not funny because you know, the

41:02

content right as a given just

41:05

comedically is also ass it

41:08

was so bad. There's no sense of

41:10

I well there's no sense of irony

41:12

at all because it's basically just pointing

41:14

a finger at different people the whole

41:16

time. Also, I've never heard a laugh

41:19

track that then had

41:22

like chatter and like

41:24

every laugh track was laughter and then it

41:26

was like, yeah,

41:29

yeah, right. Like I know that's

41:31

right. Like what? That's

41:36

not a laugh track. That's somebody talking in

41:38

the living room. It's yeah, it's crazy. Like,

41:41

yeah, to Chris's point, like it is. There

41:43

is something so disturbing. When

41:46

like what they were especially you know, like

41:48

there's obviously gut felled who tries to make

41:50

jokes or whatever, but it's still coming from

41:52

the same fucking tree. But this truly is

41:54

just sort of like, how do

41:56

we how do we just be

41:58

racist, racist, homophobic? anti-progress,

42:01

anti-everything, but we're

42:04

not making jokes, we're just going to make

42:07

caricatures of people to just keep

42:09

the outrage up to be like, and it's

42:11

normal to think this shit is bad and

42:14

that you hate it too because Norm hates

42:16

it. Yeah, because Norm hates it. The funny

42:18

thing is, obviously, they're trying to go for

42:21

some modern version of All in the Family, even

42:25

like the main character looks like some

42:27

Archie Bunker. That's

42:30

the funny part is, look,

42:34

I don't need to wax

42:37

poetic about how terrible their

42:39

content is. It

42:41

is, it fucking is. But it's just like, if

42:43

you're going to do this shit, at least do

42:46

it. All in the Family was also, to

42:49

black people, very racist. It

42:51

was a very racist show. But in

42:53

a way that was like, oh, I

42:55

don't want to say palatable, but it

42:57

was just like this. There was a

42:59

self-awareness. There was a self-awareness to that,

43:01

right? And I know it's a different

43:03

creator and things like that. That was

43:05

the purpose of that, was to show

43:07

how unprogressive and

43:09

how bad Archie Bunker was. But

43:12

it's also just like, you

43:14

guys, they are so enthralled

43:17

with how much they hate

43:19

all of us that

43:22

they are not even creative

43:24

with it. You're

43:26

not even creative with it. And it's

43:28

like, that's even more insulting. It's

43:31

like, you're going to be bad and bad. It's

43:33

basically, yeah. It's something to fuck. I'm

43:36

just going to take all of my

43:38

terrible beliefs and make them, Human Services

43:40

Secretary Rachel Levine, where there's like a

43:43

Star of David, like on her uniform.

43:45

It's just really fucking, it's really fucked

43:47

up. And I think- Yeah, there's nothing

43:49

funny about attempting to move

43:52

people to violence against

43:54

people, which is

43:57

what the insurrection was. was

44:00

a result of this sort of thing, where

44:02

they are ready to hang Mike

44:05

Pence. Like, you know, what's Mike Pence except

44:07

for in this case a stand-in for like

44:09

a cuck or a, you know, I

44:11

mean, you know, you know, in

44:13

that case, Mike Pence was cast

44:15

as the lefty because, which

44:17

shows you how, how, like, he's a white,

44:19

he's a cis white man and they were

44:21

ready to, they were ready to hang him

44:24

because, and they were actually trying to

44:26

hang him for real because he was

44:29

supposed to be like left-leaning, like

44:32

forget about whether if he was gay or,

44:34

or, or non-binary or

44:36

even just liberal for real. I mean,

44:38

they were gonna hang Mike Pence. So

44:40

do you, what are the, what does

44:43

that mean that they want to do

44:45

to everybody of color, everybody of different

44:48

fucking political persuasion?

44:50

I mean, it's just, it's just, we've already seen

44:53

it. These people are capable of violence. This is

44:55

just a call to violence. It's not a sitcom.

44:57

This is a call to violence. That's why it's

44:59

not funny. It's not funny because all

45:01

in the family was about thinking this shit

45:03

was about to go away. It was all

45:05

about like Meathead and his being like, shut

45:07

the fuck up, dad. You're aged out. It's

45:09

the 60s. We're on the way to a

45:11

better life. But it's like Archie

45:14

Bunker stayed alive and is now a hundred

45:16

because these people live forever, it turns out,

45:18

and they keep voting. And, and

45:20

so it's like, we, we, we

45:22

need to vote our fucking heads

45:25

off. Young people gotta vote.

45:27

I know it sucks. I know it's a

45:29

week seems so weak compared to this horrible

45:32

shit that's going on, but it's sadly,

45:34

it's like what we got, you know, it really

45:36

is what we got. Besides that, we got violence

45:38

and no one wants that. Yeah. If you don't

45:40

vote, this show will be premiering

45:43

on Fox right after the Simpsons.

45:45

40 seasons with

45:47

this shit. I

45:51

also love this conversation because this is

45:53

a conversation where, I mean, sometimes like

45:55

I think if there is any criticism

45:57

of the left is that it can

45:59

be just as a exclusionary sometimes, it

46:01

could be like shut up, like

46:04

having conversations about in on the

46:06

left about the

46:08

right can devolve into the left calling

46:11

each other names and

46:13

it's difficult you know it's so I do

46:15

think that if anyone wanted to make fun

46:17

of the left for anything it could be

46:19

like they could make fun of the

46:22

left for just not supporting each

46:24

other. Well yeah or just

46:26

like neoliberalism as a whole like

46:28

that it gestures to things of

46:30

like progress but absolutely fails every

46:32

time. I think it's just different

46:35

versions of the same thing like you know

46:37

like they're like with liberalism it's about their

46:40

and conservatism is about maintaining the status quo

46:42

and one version is sort of like pretending

46:44

as if there is going to be progress

46:46

but it's just enough to maintain the status

46:48

quo and the other version is just so

46:50

outwardly aggressive and violent being like we need

46:52

to literally go in reverse but it's just

46:54

to be also because we need to maintain

46:56

the status quo and I think for them

46:58

they really just want to have this like

47:00

social caste system where there are people who

47:02

are higher than other people and this is

47:04

a very easy way to begin to sort

47:07

people and say well then this group

47:09

that we call woke or whatever is

47:12

beneath the people who are the real

47:14

Americans etc etc so yeah it's all

47:16

very exhausting but anyway I don't

47:19

think that show is gonna do fucking anything but

47:21

a lot of people have watched it whether they

47:23

hate watched it or what I'm on season two

47:25

so make sure to check it out yeah yeah

47:30

you play Larry elders nephew I play

47:32

Larry elders nephew yeah yeah yeah exactly

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we're back. The Olympics are

49:25

coming up. I got to say I was

49:27

watching the track and field qualifiers, the trials,

49:30

you know, Olympic trials. There's

49:32

something about like, I don't know,

49:34

I really like the 800 meter race because

49:36

that feels like the most wild shit to be

49:38

like, you got to go all out for two

49:40

fucking laps. I'm always like, I would

49:43

I could never do that shit. I remember I ran the

49:45

200 in high school and I fucking hated it because I

49:47

was. I could do the hundred two

49:49

hundred. That's like two one hundredths. Don't ask

49:51

me. Eight hundred. It's eight of

49:54

them, bitch. That's eight hundred. That's eight one

49:56

hundred. Now, that's eight one hundred. Me, not

49:58

me. Not me much. But anyway, so. While

50:00

that's happening, also break dancing. I can't wait

50:03

to see what the fuck like Olympic. Like

50:05

I want. Yeah. Break dancing is a is

50:07

a category this year. Like 50

50:09

years too late. Yeah. Yeah. Is

50:13

there like an Olympic? I wish I

50:15

knew like if there was like what the

50:17

rules were, I really should look into it.

50:19

Like, is there like a DJ? You know

50:21

what I mean? Yeah, it's like, yeah, you

50:23

know, like, all right, Bobby toe, let's go.

50:25

And like, just, does everybody break to the

50:27

same beat? You know what I mean? Is

50:29

there like an Olympic standard or does each

50:31

team have their own breakbeat that they come

50:33

out? Anyway, that's. Is there going to be

50:35

like a Swiss team? Yeah. I mean, like

50:37

all, I mean, countries can submit breakdancing

50:40

teams. Yeah. Countries are participating. Like

50:42

a Swiss breakdancing team. Are they going to make

50:44

a movie about them? Like the way they made

50:46

about the Jamaican bobsled team? I hope so. Like,

50:48

yeah, against all odds. Like all these. Yeah. Like

50:50

what? The Swiss breakdancers are just

50:52

like finding out about breakdancing. Like as we

50:54

speak. Who do we think the top three

50:56

countries are going to be in that? The

50:58

Philippines, the Philippines, the Philippines. So

51:01

I've grown up in LA. So many

51:03

of the best breakers I knew were

51:05

Filipino. OK, Filipino. So I feel like

51:07

the Filipinos could definitely have a break

51:09

dance. Obviously the US. But

51:12

I'm sure like whenever you watch those

51:14

Red Bull dance battles, like most like

51:16

everybody's bringing it like South Korea. Yeah.

51:18

Yeah. Breakdancing has a little flavor.

51:21

I like though, too, like when you look at

51:23

the Olympic website, like it's it's not even breakdancing.

51:26

They call it breaking. Yeah,

51:29

like that's just wild. That's something to be like.

51:31

I'm the Olympic gold medalist in breaking. And

51:35

again, this is decades, decades late. That's

51:37

going to be fun, though. It would

51:39

be fun to watch. I mean, I

51:41

see that then like some crazy antique,

51:43

you know, cross country skiing and

51:45

shooting skeet or whatever that is.

51:48

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what they said.

51:50

They have to adapt their style and improvise to

51:52

the beat of the DJ's tracks in a bid

51:54

to secure the judges votes and take home the

51:56

first Olympic breaking medal. So how many how

51:58

many people. Do you think

52:00

I'm going to use not like us? Well,

52:05

it looks like two. I don't think it

52:07

looks based on what I'm reading. I think

52:09

the the DJ, whoever the Olympic DJ is,

52:12

is the one who to choose. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

52:14

So I don't think I think for them, they

52:16

have to respond to what the DJ is putting

52:19

out there. That's what I'm saying. You know he's

52:21

going to play that. Do you think? Yeah. OK,

52:23

you know he's going to play it. Yeah.

52:25

All right. Go on, Chris. Hold the phone.

52:28

Yeah. All right. Are they

52:30

going to drug test the break dancers? Oh,

52:33

they can't. They that's what I'm talking

52:35

about. What? That's insanity. No, I don't

52:37

think I mean, what? They'll disqualify every

52:39

team. Could you imagine?

52:41

Yeah, like how many break dancers do like

52:43

not stoned ever? I'm sure

52:45

there are people who are like breaking for Christ

52:48

kind of people. Now, I mean, like I'm on

52:50

the straight narrow. I'd be a

52:52

long time ago, but maybe I mean, like back in the day,

52:54

they were probably just drunk and break

52:56

dancing maybe because it was harder to get weed, but

52:58

I never heard of, you know,

53:00

in the 80s, they probably were more drunk. But but I

53:02

mean, I just can't imagine them. It's going to be the

53:05

least. They're going to be like, listen, we're hobbled in the

53:07

interviews. They'll be like, we're going to be hobbled, obviously, from

53:09

the fact that we're not going to be be stoned. But

53:12

I think, yeah, I mean, I think that will be

53:14

an advantage for the Swiss team who are going to

53:16

be fucking stone cold sober and break dancing to Huey

53:18

Lewis in the news. I can't wait. I can't wait.

53:21

It's also just wild. Someone's going to be like, you know, I was

53:23

an Olympic DJ. The Swiss win. Yeah. You

53:25

know what I mean? Because they're like, well, yeah, because,

53:28

you know, we didn't we don't I

53:30

feel like there are camp. You can't drug test for

53:32

someone like break dancing. Who knows? But you know, they're

53:34

a test of DJ. Yeah.

53:36

Right. Yeah. Like I'm like a judge. You

53:38

were like, the entries are going to be

53:40

in that. And the Philippines, the Philippines, the

53:43

Philippines. So I've grown up in L.A.

53:45

So many of the best breakers I

53:47

knew were Filipino. OK, Filipino. I feel

53:50

like the Filipinos could definitely have a

53:52

break dance. Obviously, the US. But

53:54

I'm sure like whenever you watch those

53:57

Red Bull dance battles, like most like

53:59

everybody's bringing it like South. Yeah, yeah,

54:02

break dancing has become a little flavor. I

54:04

like though too, like when you look at

54:06

the Olympic website, like it's not even break

54:08

dancing, they call it like breaking. Yo,

54:12

like that's just wild that someone's gonna be like,

54:14

I'm the Olympic gold medalist in breaking. And

54:17

again, this is decades, decades late. That's

54:20

gonna be fun though, it would be fun to

54:23

watch. I mean, I'd rather see that than like

54:25

some crazy antique, you know, cross

54:27

country skiing and shooting skeet or

54:29

whatever that is. Yeah. Yeah,

54:31

I don't know what they said. They have to adapt their

54:34

style and improvise to the beat of the DJ's tracks in

54:36

a bid to secure the judges votes and take home the

54:38

first Olympic breaking medal. So

54:40

how many people do you

54:42

think are gonna use not

54:44

like us? It

54:48

looks like two, I don't think you

54:50

look based on what I'm reading. I

54:52

think the DJ, whoever the Olympic DJ

54:54

is, is the one who to

54:56

choose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't

54:58

think, I think for them, they have to respond to

55:01

what the DJ is putting out there. That's what I'm

55:03

saying. You know, he's gonna play that. Do you think?

55:05

Yeah. You know, he's gonna play it. Yeah.

55:09

All right. Go on, Chris. Hold the

55:11

phone. Yeah. Are they gonna

55:13

drug test the break dancers? Oh,

55:15

they can't. That's what I'm talking about. That's

55:19

insanity. No, I don't think, I mean, what

55:21

does this qualify every team? Could

55:24

you imagine? Has anyone ever breakdanced this

55:26

not stoned ever? I'm

55:28

sure there are people who are like breaking for

55:30

Christ kind of people. Now. You

55:32

know what I mean? Like I'm on the straight narrow. Maybe

55:34

a long time ago, but maybe, I mean, like back in

55:36

the day, they were probably just drunk

55:38

and breakdancing maybe because it was harder to get weed,

55:41

but I never heard of, you

55:43

know, in the eighties, they probably were more drunk, but

55:46

I mean, I just can't imagine them. It's

55:48

gonna be the least, they're gonna be like, listen, we're hobbled.

55:50

In the interviews, they'll be like, we're gonna be hobbled obviously

55:52

from the fact that we're not gonna be stoned. But

55:55

I think, yeah, I mean, I think that will

55:57

be an advantage for the Swiss team who are

55:59

gonna be fucking stone cold. sober and breakdancing to

56:01

Huey Lewis in the news. I can't wait. I

56:03

can't wait. It's also just wild. Someone's going to be like, you

56:05

know, I was an Olympic DJ. The Swiss

56:08

win. You know what I mean? Because they're like, well,

56:10

yeah, because, you know, we didn't... I

56:12

feel like they're camp... You can't drug test for

56:14

someone like breakdancing. Who knows? But you know, they're

56:17

going to test a big deal. Yeah,

56:19

right, man. Yeah, but the DJ will be doing...

56:21

They're like, I'm like a judge. You was a

56:23

huge DJ, not the influence, bro. We got to

56:25

disqualify you from just jockeying. Yeah, they got a

56:27

sober DJ. But this ain't the only

56:29

thing. This ain't the only new thing this year. Yeah.

56:32

What else is there? You were about

56:34

to tell us about a little Al

56:36

Michaels. Yeah, well, the new thing, which

56:38

amongst other events... I don't know.

56:40

I think flag football might be 2028. Anyway,

56:43

or maybe it's this year. Again, I'm so

56:45

focused on just watching people run because I'm

56:48

not good at it. But Al Michaels is

56:50

going to be back for the

56:52

Paris Olympics. And when I say

56:54

Al Michaels, I mean NBC will

56:57

be using an AI generated Al

56:59

Michaels voice to narrate what they

57:01

call quote customized Olympic recaps.

57:03

And what I guess, you know,

57:05

the like it will say

57:08

someone's name, like your name, like this

57:10

is Al Michaels. And Jockeys, this is

57:12

your Olympic update. This is something Al

57:14

Michaels clear. Like he's part

57:17

of this because he helped create the

57:19

voice model. And I'm assuming they gave

57:21

him some kind of bags of money

57:23

to do this. But it's weird because

57:26

if you remember, NBC dropped him

57:28

from the NFL playoffs because people

57:30

were complaining that he'd quote, lost

57:32

it and was too

57:35

boring now. But I guess people

57:37

are fine with like the robot version. Well, you know,

57:39

because they could bring them back to his heyday, you

57:41

know, it's gonna be 1980s Al Michael or 1990 Al

57:43

Michael. Little

57:46

more energy. I hope they age them

57:48

through every clip. Like one is early

57:50

Al Michael. And then the

57:52

next is the thing now Al Michael. Who was that

57:55

for? I think it's just it's

57:57

just again, because everything is about know everything is

57:59

just. Everyone's just trying to do

58:01

AI on some level, to be like, hey,

58:03

and this is art. Because again, this is

58:06

a huge, we talk about this in a

58:08

lot of episodes. Wall

58:10

Street is so just big on AI

58:13

that it's permeating through all these companies

58:15

now to evangelize AI or embrace it

58:17

or make it part of a thing

58:19

to normalize. Oh, and there'll

58:21

be AI this for that no one asked for. Eurovision

58:23

Sport used AI last

58:26

year, and IBM provided

58:28

AI commentary for the US Open

58:30

and Wimbledon. That shit did not

58:32

go well. One

58:34

article talking about it said that the announcers

58:37

sounded like, Helen Mirren, if she'd

58:39

just been hit with a polo mallet and

58:41

your uncle from Queens trying to do a

58:43

Hugh Grant impression, that's

58:46

how things were coming off. And so, and after

58:48

that, they're like, yeah, we're not bringing it back

58:51

this year. Cause it sounded like this was kind

58:53

of an L for everybody. So yeah, and I

58:55

think, yeah, Chris, you're- I

58:57

just think like you're talking about, you're

59:00

talking about another thing, where it's a

59:02

decision made by these old motherfuckers who

59:04

run these networks are still like, you

59:06

know what we need? We need to

59:08

keep Al Michaels in the mix forever.

59:11

Like what the fuck? These

59:13

people cannot, I mean, this is all connected

59:15

to like why I was

59:17

mad at the Jimmy Webb concert. And the reason

59:19

why is because they don't read

59:21

the room because they don't give a fuck. They

59:24

are so up their own ass that they will

59:26

talk for 20 minutes about Laurel Canyon and not

59:28

know it's 50 years ago, fuckhead.

59:34

50, 50 years ago. That means in 1980, that would

59:36

be you talking about 1930 and

59:39

taking up all the airwaves with 1930 and

59:42

bringing back AI versions of

59:44

fucking flappers. Like you fuckers,

59:46

like let it fucking go.

59:48

Let us, not me. Look at,

59:51

I'm in the middle somewhere. I guess I should, I might

59:53

be able to vote for another couple of years. But

59:56

what I'm saying is turn it over to the

59:58

people who want to make. Progress.

1:00:01

I cannot wait for these people. These

1:00:04

people need to fall out. These people need

1:00:06

to fall out as soon as possible. When

1:00:08

we talked about this on previous episodes, the

1:00:11

reason why these people are still in power is because

1:00:14

they tend to the

1:00:16

garden of this form of capitalism, and they

1:00:18

do not want to give the tools to

1:00:20

another generation that is looking to make things

1:00:22

more equitable. Al Michaels, AI. I can't leave

1:00:25

the yard. It's like, AI Howard

1:00:27

Cosell announced the Olympics. I

1:00:31

would be cool with. Yeah.

1:00:34

Or Harry Carey. Harry

1:00:36

Carey. If you go go home, then

1:00:39

give us the personalities from back in the

1:00:42

day or some shit or go new. Al

1:00:44

Michaels is just right in the middle where it's like,

1:00:46

who gives a fuck? Because some

1:00:49

people were pointing out that back in

1:00:51

those days, there's

1:00:54

radio or black and white television

1:00:57

or not HD television. You needed

1:00:59

big personalities like Harry Carey or

1:01:01

Vince Scully, people like that to

1:01:04

make the broadcast a little more

1:01:06

interesting. As

1:01:08

the fidelity has gone up, the personalities

1:01:10

you could have noticed, they just

1:01:12

dial those back because they're not

1:01:14

as important. That's not the case

1:01:17

for every single sports broadcast. But one thing people

1:01:19

pointed out is because some of the broadcasters are

1:01:21

partly owned by the teams themselves. So now they're

1:01:23

like, well, now this is our brand and now

1:01:25

we got to worry about how it's being talked

1:01:28

about, et cetera, et cetera. So it's a different

1:01:30

energy. But Chris Crofton, it was a

1:01:32

pleasure having you on the Daily Psych guys. Thank you

1:01:34

for having me as usual. It's always so much fun.

1:01:37

Where do the people find you, follow

1:01:39

you? Just get

1:01:41

the best of you on the internet. Sadly

1:01:44

on Instagram, at the Crofton show

1:01:46

and on Twitter

1:01:49

at the Crofton show. I also am on threads, but I

1:01:51

don't go on there very much. I'm trying to go on

1:01:54

more. It actually is sort of nice to go on to

1:01:56

a place where the trending topics aren't alt right. Yeah.

1:01:59

greatest hits. So those two things, you

1:02:02

can order my book, The Advice

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King Anthology on I Don't

1:02:06

Care Where You Get It. Don't go through

1:02:08

the Vanderbilt University website because it'll take you

1:02:10

the rest of your life. Just get it

1:02:12

from fucking Amazon. It doesn't matter.

1:02:16

The instructions in that book are for Amazon. It'll

1:02:18

take down, you read that book, you'll take down

1:02:20

Amazon. There you go. That's instructions to take down

1:02:22

or working from the inside. So always

1:02:25

proven effective. Taking

1:02:27

it down from the inside. Hell yeah, man.

1:02:29

That's what we were doing in the 80s,

1:02:31

man. Just taking it down from the inside.

1:02:34

And also listen to my podcast, Cold

1:02:36

Brew Got Me Like, because I think

1:02:39

we have a solid little fan base, but

1:02:41

it's really, I talk

1:02:43

very deeply about politics and

1:02:45

about societal stuff. And also

1:02:47

we talk about Bigfoot

1:02:50

and abandoned mines and this crap. We

1:02:52

do the crap. We do the crap.

1:02:55

We do the fun stuff too. And

1:02:57

that's about it. And then just, I

1:02:59

don't know, I'm trying to think if I have

1:03:01

any tour things to announce. I'll have something soon,

1:03:03

but nothing right now. Jack

1:03:06

Hease, always a pleasure.

1:03:08

Where do the people find you, follow you?

1:03:10

What's work in media that you're digging? Oh,

1:03:13

you know, you can find me, everybody. You

1:03:15

can find me in these streets about

1:03:17

half a block away from going in the

1:03:19

house forever. That's where

1:03:22

you can find me. But it's

1:03:24

almost time to stay

1:03:26

in the crib or at Jack

1:03:29

Hease's New Alone, everything. That's where

1:03:31

you can find me. If you are

1:03:34

listening to this, this Sunday,

1:03:36

Comedian Feud is putting up a very

1:03:38

impromptu show. I have not even announced

1:03:40

it yet in a sense. So,

1:03:44

you know, it's going to

1:03:46

be, we'll see. It's very likely

1:03:49

not, but we

1:03:51

do have a live stream. So if

1:03:53

you want to watch it, check it out. Check

1:03:55

my IG, Linktree, all

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that good stuff and you can get some tickets

1:04:00

to watch the live stream of comedian. If

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you had always a good time though, always

1:04:04

fun. So check that out.

1:04:07

Now, have we seen

1:04:09

or talked about the

1:04:12

Abraham Lincoln wax thing?

1:04:15

Yeah, we talked about that on trending yesterday.

1:04:17

Yeah. So maybe, maybe we've, maybe this has

1:04:19

already been like talked about, but so,

1:04:22

you know, if you don't know, go look

1:04:24

up the Lincoln wax, like

1:04:27

statue or whatever. Down statue in DC. And

1:04:29

he's like melted to a point where it

1:04:31

looks like he's getting the best

1:04:33

blowjob of his life. Yeah.

1:04:35

He's getting that Hawk to the Glock. The Hawk

1:04:38

to a block. He's getting it.

1:04:40

And then somebody was like, so

1:04:42

the original tweet was maybe a

1:04:44

wax Lincoln sculpture wasn't the best

1:04:46

idea during DC's first week of

1:04:48

summer heat. And then

1:04:50

somebody by the name of Jesse

1:04:53

Spector, quote, quote, tweeted it with

1:04:55

the, just add a Nancy Reagan

1:04:58

statue and it's all shit. The

1:05:03

throat go herself. The

1:05:06

throat go herself. Oh my God.

1:05:09

Only so like Abraham Lincoln break is back to

1:05:11

the back. So wow. But I had on the

1:05:13

fell right off. That's how to

1:05:16

a girl. She, that was, she

1:05:18

was interviewed in Nashville. That's that's that's

1:05:21

her down in Nashville. Yeah. She's famous.

1:05:23

It's wild. It's

1:05:25

famous somehow like just that. I mean,

1:05:27

I get it because men are fucking

1:05:29

horny and they're like, hell yeah, dude.

1:05:31

Hawk to a fuck. Yeah. All those

1:05:33

funny to see people would put pictures

1:05:36

of like Tony Hawk with the dolphins

1:05:38

quarterback to a tag of Viola. Uh,

1:05:41

like next year, you're like, man, can we, we

1:05:43

got to stop. We got to stop. Uh,

1:05:45

Chris, did you find the thing

1:05:47

that you're liking? Yeah, I'm trying to find

1:05:50

there's this, like, there's this YouTube documentary about

1:05:52

a mummy that was hanging in a fun house.

1:05:55

And, uh, it was, it's called the

1:05:57

outlaw. It's an outlaw. It's a mummy.

1:05:59

of an outlaw that was killed in

1:06:02

a gunfight in 1913, and they

1:06:04

found him hanging in a funhouse at

1:06:06

an amusement park in Long Beach in

1:06:08

1978 because they were shooting a $6

1:06:10

million man episode

1:06:14

and one of the

1:06:16

guys working on the episode went inside this

1:06:18

funhouse that they were using. But then he

1:06:20

noticed that this mummy had hair growing on

1:06:23

it. This novelty looking thing hanging had

1:06:25

hair on it. It

1:06:28

turned out that there's this documentary,

1:06:30

it's called like the mummified outlaw.

1:06:32

Just look up, his name's Elmer

1:06:34

Purdy, I think. They're

1:06:36

talking about old, like, sideshow

1:06:38

guys and they talked about if your fucking

1:06:41

sideshow didn't have a mummy in it, it

1:06:43

was called a ragbag. That was like their

1:06:45

put down. Like, if you didn't have a

1:06:47

mummy in your sideshow, it was a ragbag.

1:06:50

Anyway, it's an incredible documentary and I probably

1:06:52

should have used it as one of my

1:06:55

fucking overrated underrateds instead of what I fucking

1:06:57

said, which was a bunch of craziness. But

1:06:59

anyway, I'm going to find it right now,

1:07:01

but it's called like if you look up

1:07:03

Elmer Purdy or if

1:07:06

you look up like the mummy outlaw,

1:07:08

it's a BBC documentary about it and

1:07:10

they found everybody. They found the guy

1:07:12

who had the mummy stuck in his

1:07:14

closet in LA, this sideshow guy who

1:07:16

became a movie maker. It's an incredible

1:07:18

story. It's called like the

1:07:20

mummified outlaw. Just search that and you'll

1:07:22

be distracted from all

1:07:24

the horror. Beautiful. Miles,

1:07:27

can I give you one more quick one that I just

1:07:29

saw? Yeah, you were fucking cracking the

1:07:31

fuck up. I was like, what the fuck did

1:07:33

he just say? It may be only funny to

1:07:35

me, but the original tweet is a

1:07:37

105-year-old woman receives her master's

1:07:39

degree from Stanford University, which is a

1:07:42

beautiful thing. So great. And then at

1:07:45

huge tulip quote tweets, what's

1:07:47

she finna do with the masters at 105?