0:05

Yeah. I texted him like a couple like a few

0:07

weeks ago because his cous his elder

0:09

cousin is like a board member, was like a famed

0:12

chair, like a board member of Arsenal,

0:15

and like passed away, like at the age of

0:17

like eighty something. His name was Sir Chips

0:19

Keswick, and I remember I like texted

0:23

it was not yes, Sir

0:26

Chips Kesick, and I texted

0:28

him. I said, hey, man, I heard about Sir Chips my

0:30

condolences, and like three weeks had passed and he's

0:32

like, I'm so sorry. I saw

0:35

this text. It was incredibly rude of me

0:37

to not answer immediately. I thank you

0:39

so much for reaching out. I

0:41

hope all is well. He's like, just in the UK

0:44

man and I'm like, yeah, dude, I get.

0:46

Oh, Sir Chips

0:48

Chips, so sorry about Sir

0:51

Chips.

0:53

Conlence sounds like you're talking about a hamster.

0:56

Yeah.

0:57

In America he would have been Sir French Friese.

1:04

We call him, we call him Admiral Fries,

1:10

Colonel French Ship, Colonel

1:13

French Fries.

1:14

Baby

1:17

famed Harlem Glove Crutter's board member, Sir

1:19

Fred Fries Colonel

1:22

French fries.

1:30

Hello the Internet, and welcome

1:32

to season three forty one, episode

1:34

three of.

1:36

Day production of iHeartRadio.

1:38

This is a podcast where we take a deep

1:40

dive into America's share consciousness.

1:43

Said it extra stupid today.

1:45

I felt like that was like a.

1:48

It's Wednesday, June fifth, twenty

1:50

twenty four.

1:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what

1:53

that is. Yeah? Yeah,

1:56

It's National catch up Day, dick

1:58

heads. It's also National vege Burger

2:00

Day. I don't get

2:02

because it's National ketchup Day. That's how

2:04

I fucking get when I think about Catcher's also National

2:07

Moonshine Day, National Gingerbread Day,

2:09

and Global Running Day. All of these

2:12

can be enjoyed at the same time. Yeah,

2:14

in a in a blender. Yeah,

2:16

oh my god, the moonshine, catch

2:19

up, veggie burger, gingerbread shake,

2:21

and on a long run.

2:23

Am I allowed to talk? Or do you have to introduce me first

2:25

because you.

2:27

Have ketchup?

2:28

What the ketchup thoughts? I got

2:30

deep ketch up emotions. I gotta catchup pot

2:33

how come? Okay, Jack Handy, how come?

2:35

How come I'm gonna

2:39

give you a new segment on your show?

2:42

Or that Fred Armison bit about the guy who's never

2:44

saying anything with us.

2:45

Yeah, but

2:49

it's like and I know, and I get that, and so

2:52

what First of all, first of.

2:53

This criticisms are valid. We

2:57

only got this hell of mustards and pretty mu

3:00

only one ketchup ketchup.

3:01

All right, so we've landed on Hines.

3:03

Why you land on the one ketchup?

3:05

I don't know. You have you tried

3:07

the other ketchups.

3:08

Yeah, that's a good point I have. They

3:11

are terrible. When

3:13

somebody tries to make like a healthy ketchup

3:15

or like a or like an heirloom ketchup,

3:18

it always it tastes like a hot

3:20

moist room. It never never

3:23

to ketch up.

3:23

But yeah, there's always

3:25

like this is our house ketchup.

3:27

Right when you look at like you

3:30

go to the store, there's like Hines hunts

3:32

and then there's like this one that's in a jar, like

3:34

a like a spherical one. You're like, oh, and they're

3:36

like tomato something or what that you eat

3:38

it, you're like chunky, weird ketchup, Like,

3:40

don't it ain't anything different. The

3:43

best thing to do curry ketchup. Just put

3:45

like curry powder in your ketchup

3:47

and then mix that up. That's a nice that's

3:49

a that's an easy one.

3:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, it's it's weird

3:53

that we're so particular about our ketchup

3:56

because ketchup mix as well with

3:58

like mayonnaise and like a little

4:00

ketchup with basically, yeah,

4:03

you know, it should seem that seems

4:05

like it should make it easy. But like even Hunts,

4:08

I'm like, get this ship out of

4:10

my face.

4:12

I don't know, why would anyone ever

4:14

make the Hunts decision? Like you go to a restaurant

4:16

and they have Hunt. It must be so much cheaper

4:18

than Hines. Like Hines has to be. Heines

4:21

has been rich for so long that

4:24

they had like Gilded Age money. There

4:26

was like a woman named Druela Hines who

4:29

got anch like the heir of the Hines

4:31

fortune, who moved to London and

4:34

like was friends with uh

4:36

uh who's Phillips tymoor

4:38

Hoffman just you know he played and it didn't just

4:40

play him.

4:40

Who's that all there?

4:42

Coponi? Yeah, Like Capodi was

4:44

friends with like Dreuella Hines. So

4:46

she just lived in like

4:49

Scotland, I think in either London or Edinburgh

4:51

and just like was friends with authors and sponsored

4:53

like gave money to a bunch of authors and everything. Yeah,

4:56

the bridge catch

4:58

up rich for generations.

5:00

It goes the one product, one

5:02

product, just like we're.

5:06

Yeah fucking rules. I think they

5:08

were bumping off other catches. There must have been a time

5:10

when there was just like thirty catchups in America

5:13

and Hine's like slowly to Yeah.

5:15

I think restaurants that have the hunts

5:17

think that it's the equivalent equivalent

5:20

of like, oh, it's just pepsi

5:22

to their coke. You know, we carry pepsi products.

5:25

But it's actually the equivalent of like

5:27

fago you know.

5:28

Yeah, it's an ab here.

5:30

We carry only Fago products.

5:34

I've seeing more Fago on the West coast, though

5:36

I thought that was in the beginning. Oh, I thought

5:38

that was let

5:41

fay go.

5:42

Yeah anyway, anyway, yeah, anyways,

5:44

my name is Jack O'Brien aka ninety.

5:46

Nine poop balloons.

5:49

Stinking in the summer sky

5:51

rubbish bags.

5:53

It's red alert.

5:54

There's species here from somewhere

5:56

else. The poop machine springs

5:59

to life. Opens up one

6:01

eager eye, what is happening here?

6:03

Telling me you're a tough guy.

6:05

When ninety nine poop balloons

6:08

go bye, that is courtesy I

6:10

you Kurt do that on television in

6:13

reference to the North Korea poop

6:16

balloon attack that we've been learning

6:18

about and that I personally

6:21

was like, how have How did I not invent

6:24

poop balloons as a teenager?

6:26

You know? Yeah?

6:27

As a as a former monologue writer

6:30

in late night television. This is

6:32

what you this is what you stay up late at night praying

6:34

for. Is that story?

6:36

Yeah?

6:39

Oh my god, it's North Korea and

6:41

poop balloons? Yeah, that's just

6:43

like I'm coming in at ten tomorrow.

6:45

I got work

6:47

to do, got work to do. Baby,

6:50

I'm man.

6:51

That story rights itself. We're good,

6:55

Yeah, all

6:57

right.

6:57

I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co

7:00

host, mister Miles Grass.

7:02

Yes it's Miles Gray. Still confused

7:04

from that Food and Wine article about

7:06

fall eminem so oh six

7:09

point eight weeks, six point eight weeks,

7:11

six point eight weeks. What the fuck

7:13

is six point eight weeks, six point eight weeks

7:16

this fucking article. I'm shout

7:18

out of Zach Vannus for that. They're not like us,

7:21

you know, obvious the most confounding

7:24

paragraph in the written word ever?

7:28

Can I read something for you and really

7:30

quick, just so you understand that there is there's

7:33

this, there's this.

7:34

And said no, he said no, yeah,

7:37

he he said no.

7:39

Now you do actually gohead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

7:41

Alright, cool, all right, here's this

7:44

is We've lost miles. Miles

7:47

is fun. So you see my yo, I see

7:49

my new tats, I pull up my shirt all six

7:53

trying to know. There's this fucking food

7:55

and Wine article thing that's talking about how

7:58

Eminem's put out this pumpkin flavored eminem

8:00

like in the summer, and how that's like way earlier

8:02

than normal fall flavored things. And

8:05

they said, quote, tell me, this doesn't make

8:07

sense. This is in this Food and White article. The reason quote

8:09

the preseason a launch of the no chobject pumpkin by

8:11

Eminem's is a strategic move that taps into mars

8:13

market research. This research indicates

8:15

that gen z and Millennials plan to celebrate Halloween

8:18

by dressing up and planning for the holiday about

8:20

six point eight weeks beforehand. Well

8:23

six point eight weeks from Memorial Day is

8:25

the fourth of July, so you still have plenty

8:27

of time to latch onto a pop culture trend

8:30

and turn it into a creative costume.

8:34

What the fuck.

8:35

All right, so this is hitting me again all

8:38

over, and it's

8:40

even crazier than I remember being

8:43

Wow, you know what, I don't know, shout

8:45

out zeigang. That's in the discord, being like,

8:48

I don't even know.

8:49

People have lost their mind over dumber stuff, Miles.

8:51

I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie yea, yeah,

8:54

I just don't. It's just the most inefficient

8:56

writing, Like I think the most

8:59

charitable reading don't make any sense.

9:01

I think the idea is just saying like,

9:03

well, what's six point eight weeks even mean

9:05

they're like, well, six twenty eight weeks from now

9:07

is fourth of July. But fourth fourth of July is

9:09

five days and three five weeks and three days

9:12

from Memorial Day.

9:13

And why is Memorial Day important in all this? Because

9:15

Halloween?

9:16

Fucking no, that's the long of the Halloween

9:18

article published on It.

9:20

Published on the thirtieth, It published days

9:23

after Memorial Day.

9:26

Look, this is just this is just what the sigma

9:28

is going on with this, right, what the sigma is going

9:30

on? Bro?

9:31

This is almost it's like so absurd.

9:33

It's like it's

9:35

like walking out into a field, like there's two

9:37

armies facing each other and then just someone

9:40

drops their shield and their sword and they

9:42

pick off their armor and they walk into

9:44

the field and stand there and

9:46

they're like, strike me down. There's

9:48

too many openings where you're like frozen.

9:51

You're like, why this is so weird. I don't know which thing to latch

9:53

on first, Like the fact that there's a pumpkin eminem

9:55

in the first place, the fact that Memorial Days involved that

9:57

the fourth of July is, what's the fourth of July?

10:00

Six point eight weeks from that generation

10:02

we celebrate six point eight

10:04

weeks early. I don't know anyway.

10:07

July fourth is when that is coming out,

10:09

right or is it not?

10:10

Dude, I don't even know. It doesn't even matter anymore. I've

10:13

lost my family over this.

10:17

Yeah.

10:17

I haven't seen my kid in twenty four hours.

10:20

Yeah.

10:20

I'm not letting them put my book out. Yeah.

10:23

I can't.

10:23

I can't launch it into an environment that's on stage,

10:25

thank you. Yeah, I just can't. We need

10:27

to get that, we need to get to the bottom of this before and

10:29

I don't care who's at the top.

10:30

By the way, speaking of weird writing,

10:33

today, I was reading an interview with

10:35

Nate Cohne, the like Polster

10:38

in the Intelligencer, and the author

10:40

used the words quote en

10:42

quote instead of quote

10:45

unquote.

10:46

Wow, A right, is

10:48

that you can? Isn't that New York Magazine

10:50

Intelligence? Yeah, that's like a real publication.

10:53

Quote quote is fucking low.

10:57

This is one of those all all intents

10:59

and purpose is where someone.

11:01

Intense purposes

11:05

of But yeah,

11:07

so I looked at it. I was like, wait, is there

11:09

a use of quote en quote that

11:11

makes sense? Surely the intelligence

11:14

er it's right there in the fucking publication's

11:17

name. It's intelligener than me.

11:19

And it's just a it's just a

11:21

mishearing of quote unquote.

11:23

Quote unquote unquote. They're talking about

11:25

the movie Wedding Crashes.

11:28

Just quote quote than.

11:34

Dude, love that one, Love that one.

11:36

You mot about sons of bitches.

11:38

It's for a cultural conversation,

11:41

for comfort. They built for speed. Come on, she's

11:43

still where is she? Where is she?

11:46

What about? What about?

11:48

Oh he

11:50

does the pancakes? He

11:52

goes, Yeah,

11:56

they're weird like relationship.

11:58

Maybe John talk with each other ready.

12:02

Anyway.

12:03

Anyway, we are

12:06

thrilled to be joined in our third seat

12:08

by a hilarious stand up comedian

12:11

posting the truly great

12:13

podcast All fantasy Everything TV

12:16

writer now author of the acclaimed

12:18

new memoir T Shirt Swim

12:20

Club Stories from Being Fat in a World

12:22

of Thin People, which was called

12:25

as charming and funny as it is poignant

12:28

and thoughtful by none other than Rock Saying

12:30

Gay.

12:30

Rock Saying Gay.

12:32

It's Iaron Carmel.

12:35

Hello, but

12:37

I'm not here to talk about the book. Okay,

12:40

that's not why I'm here.

12:41

No, no, not at all. Not please

12:43

for listeners. He has he has

12:46

seven books he's holding around his head.

12:48

I'm not here Rady bunching with

12:50

his.

12:53

Hollywquares with mostly books.

12:55

I'm not here to talk about looking book.

12:57

By the way, thank you aesthetically pleasing, there are nowhere

13:00

it's inside and then we think we find out to be a plus

13:02

and is completely empty.

13:03

Read bookshelf.

13:05

You can say you've got because the

13:08

cover is it. That's what I call

13:10

perfect beach read.

13:11

It's a perfect beach read. It comes

13:13

with a free coupon for a Tommy

13:16

Bahama polo shirt. Okay,

13:19

yeah, in a Penica Colada flavored M and M, which

13:21

is dropping strategically December

13:23

twelfth for the summer.

13:24

Yes, six twenty eight weeks out from the

13:26

birth of the Savior.

13:28

But again, I don't want to talk about the book where Chay

13:30

Serano read it and said, a lot of people are funny,

13:32

and a lot of people are warm, and a lot of people are insightful.

13:34

But Ian Carmel in his lovely book here somehow

13:37

manages all three of those things. It wants fully

13:39

and completely across every single page. Yeah, I'm not

13:41

want to.

13:41

Talk about that.

13:42

We're here to embarrassing

13:44

for me, it would be an embarrassing Yeah, that's

13:46

for me.

13:47

But that's that's actually pretty cool.

13:48

Man, it's pretty red.

13:49

Yeah, congratulations, congratulation

13:52

the book. It's out a week

13:54

or less than a week from today.

13:57

June eleventh. June eleventh, people

13:59

find out. How of a fraud I am. I can't

14:01

wait.

14:05

Amazing man, Well, congratulations on

14:07

the thank you.

14:08

It's I guess it's a It's a book about being

14:10

growing up fat, uh, being a fat

14:12

adult, fatness and pop culture all

14:14

that stuff. Story. It's like a memoir and thirteen

14:16

essays about the world and my little sister

14:18

who's also a fat person and got a doctorate

14:21

in psychology and like master's

14:23

degrees and nutrition and all that, like damn,

14:26

she like she's a nutrition damn, Alisa

14:28

uh da miss

14:31

pronounsa. Why

14:34

did you spend so much time in college? She

14:37

responds to every essay personally,

14:39

but then also just from her area of expertise.

14:42

So we think it's a little some laughs,

14:44

some learning, some love. And

14:46

again there's almost no words in this, so you can just like read

14:49

it, just plow.

14:50

Yeah, it's growing up on your you

14:52

read the Giving Tree, it's

14:55

about half the word count of this.

14:56

I stole a lot of them.

14:57

It's mostly just there

15:01

until we hit sixty thousand words.

15:04

Command V command VIC, command V command VI, command

15:06

V command V.

15:07

Okay, Yeah, we're just

15:09

there. And then you can say, oh, I want to read ten books

15:11

this summer. Damn. Now it's note Yeah,

15:14

we got you.

15:14

Easy, all right. We're going to get to know

15:17

you a little bit better in a moment. First. A

15:19

couple of things that we might get to we

15:21

might not. I don't know.

15:22

It's pretty fun, just bullshitting. But the

15:24

internet is a buzz about

15:27

Jason Kelsey's take on how

15:30

Much. Yeah,

15:33

so we'll talk about that. There's

15:35

a Fellas control.

15:37

The Fellas Fellas, the

15:40

Gay to wash your arms, do

15:42

cancel doue counsel,

15:45

dude, cancel.

15:46

Yeah, we're going to talk about birth control

15:49

that you just rub into your shoulders. Great

15:51

for male breast control that that actually

15:53

works, and we might even talk about dogs biting male carriers.

15:56

All of that plenty more.

15:58

But first im, we like

16:00

to ask our guests, what is

16:02

something from your search history that is

16:05

revealing about who you are?

16:06

This is a very specific

16:08

to Ian Carmel right now search

16:11

history result, but it is

16:13

best builled for mage

16:16

BG three.

16:18

I recently

16:21

downloaded the video game Balder's Gay

16:23

three and it has

16:26

it didn't even come out recently, I think, I think

16:28

it's come out in the last year, but it has completely

16:30

swallowed my life. I have I

16:33

have been lost in a world of dungeons

16:35

and dragons role playing yeah,

16:37

for the last uh for the last few

16:40

days. I'm currently unemployed. I'm about to

16:42

go on the tour for the book and everything, but

16:44

I am in this beautiful period where there's not quite

16:46

enough time to do anything constructive. So

16:49

I am playing a video game. A video game

16:51

where when you're creating a character, there

16:53

are different options for what penis they have?

16:56

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and you have

16:58

to see them.

16:59

You get to see them. You can cycle through three

17:01

different penises or a default, or three different

17:03

volvas or the default.

17:05

Okay, do you see it?

17:07

Like?

17:07

What what it looks like in action? What it looks

17:09

like? Just like kind of hanging out like physics,

17:12

only you never.

17:13

See it erect And honestly, the biggest

17:16

changes are in pubic care, like the

17:19

amount and thickness of the pubic

17:21

care that I've noticed. There are no I

17:24

think, as this is supposed to take place in the sort of a fantasy

17:27

world of the past, no circumcision,

17:30

So it's huh, you're hanging wind

17:32

sock on every penis available.

17:33

Can you can you like? Is that like

17:35

another? Are there sliders for customizing

17:38

the foreskin to be like I would

17:40

have more junk on?

17:41

That's not there's not they

17:43

haven't gotten that in depth yet. I'm hoping for a patch

17:46

at some point or maybe a mob that does let

17:48

you get maybe a little more involved in the foreskin dynamic.

17:50

Full on wizard sleeve, Yeah, yeah, I got.

17:52

It, Yeah, yeah, full of hanging down wizard

17:55

sleeve. I'd like piercing.

17:57

Age wizard sleep wizards

17:59

sleeve read There.

18:01

Is that maje just short for major?

18:03

Is that

18:07

made

18:10

major chips.

18:11

R I P the major chips.

18:14

I'm hoping for some sort of vascular content

18:17

as far as the foreskin goes, if you want to make a fanny

18:19

or less vandy. But again that's the Boulders

18:22

get four. It does have to come out at some point, Balders get

18:24

for skin.

18:25

Thank you, you're welcome.

18:27

Love that you're welcome. So Boulter's Gate. I'm

18:30

hearing a lot about I'm hearing a lot about

18:32

this, talking more

18:34

and more about this video game, what.

18:40

It combines, Like what's great about Dungeons

18:43

and Dragons with like

18:45

are you fighting?

18:46

What? What?

18:47

How is the game? What is the game play?

18:48

Like pretty fucking immersive? The storytelling

18:51

is is the immersive storytelling

18:53

of our eminem Pumpkin launch was

18:56

our goal everything storytelling. Now

18:58

that it feels corny to talk something that's

19:00

actually telling.

19:01

A story, actually storytelling.

19:03

It actually is. Our menu tells the story of Airloom

19:05

tomatoes underneath, it's

19:10

actually welcome to

19:12

Panera bread, Today's

19:14

stoop story, soup stories are as. It's

19:18

just it's like fun, it's corny. I mean, it's

19:20

it is like a corny like Dungeons and Dragons

19:22

video game but it's just fun. I'm playing like a fighter.

19:25

You're you've got like a brain maggot that is

19:28

that gives you super psychic powers

19:30

that you have to like either remove or like kid

19:32

Junja. It's fucking ripped from the headline.

19:34

You really do have a brain work you literally

19:37

Balters Day three is about having brain

19:39

worms, about this kind,

19:42

the good kind of brain worms, and also a speech

19:44

impediment that we're not allowed to make fun of. Robert,

19:48

that's the one we should be anytime it's a

19:50

Kennedy like, shouldn't we especially

19:52

like.

19:52

A million you

19:56

know what? Yeah? I

19:58

wanted to to dry kept it dry

20:01

for that one. Yeah, well that was brave.

20:03

A few miles we were coming back to

20:05

her ten years later. We're gonna do a Susan Collins.

20:07

Oh yeah, dunk contest

20:11

Vince Carter shit on her.

20:12

We're just trying to negotiate it. So she somehow

20:15

has beef with Kendrick Lamar and we're gonna let him handle

20:17

sanctioned. Yeah. Yeah,

20:20

every time. Maybe this is just being a white dude

20:22

approaching forty, but every time I

20:24

even reference Kendrick Lamar, I do feel like a white

20:26

dude approaching for it.

20:30

I know people, I know white women

20:32

who have gotten into the beef because

20:35

they're like, I can't believe what, Like, is

20:37

Kendrick Lamar about to blow the lid open

20:39

on the entire industry. I'm like, hold on easy,

20:41

Like, yeah, this is I don't

20:43

know about all of that. She's like, I just think he's so brave

20:46

if he's standing up for the children. And I

20:48

was like, are we about to go to Keanontown.

20:50

Yeah, that's not what I do. It's

20:52

like a dose of Qanontown. And I think these

20:54

are already intersecting worlds. Anyway, there's

20:57

also like a healthy amount of true crime podcasts

21:00

the Kendrick stuff, where it's like,

21:02

yeah, it's like serial Kendrick

21:04

Lamar, where like he has like he's

21:06

done research, they've got evidence, he's

21:08

breaking news, you know, like in the third song, it's

21:11

like, oh now we have receipts, we have nures

21:13

of ozetic, like all the It works the

21:15

same way a true crime podcast works. That was the Kendrick

21:17

rollout.

21:18

But right, right, right, yeah, anyway,

21:20

I'm playing.

21:20

This role playing game and it's just it's just

21:23

but I'm also I'm also so worried that

21:25

I'm doing it right the entire time, because it

21:27

is such an investment of time. Like

21:29

you play these games, they take like, you know, one

21:32

hundred hours or whatever to like complete.

21:34

So I'm like making sure I'm doing the right

21:36

thing because I don't want to be ninety hours

21:38

deep and it's like, oh, you forgot to fucking

21:41

pick you know, you forgot to like throw

21:44

this pumpkin at this wall two

21:46

hours in and now you're gonna lose to the boss like

21:48

whatever it is, So.

21:49

I should have maxed out dexterity.

21:52

Fuck? Is it multiplayer? Is it

21:54

open world? What are we talking? You

21:57

can multiplayer in this one.

21:58

I am someone who I've never

22:00

liked multiple I've played this

22:02

game called Ultimate online when I was a like

22:05

between and a teenager. I was heavy

22:08

into it, which was an mm RPG.

22:10

Ever since then, I have stayed away

22:13

from online games because

22:15

nothing scratches that same match. Nothing

22:17

has ever quite a second.

22:19

Yeah, first time in there,

22:22

I lost myself to it, all

22:24

right, amazing, that's I think that's our

22:26

first baulders Gate three search

22:28

history, even though.

22:30

I think we've had eldredible surch histories. Yeah,

22:32

yeah, for sure, everyone, I went

22:34

through it. And everything. I haven't looked up

22:36

one constructive thing. It's all like BG

22:38

three, Best Weapon, BG

22:40

three, How do I beat the troll master at BG three?

22:43

Just like every single one of those things. And

22:45

then like way down there, it's like mortgage.

22:48

How do you.

22:48

Say, what is a mortgage?

22:51

Exactly? How how many

22:53

months can you not pay? Mortgage?

22:55

Yeah?

22:56

Roof hole?

22:56

Bad?

22:57

Question mark?

22:57

Question mark?

22:58

Question mark? Second mortgage good?

23:00

Right, the first mortgage good?

23:01

Second mortgage?

23:02

Why not first mortgage asap?

23:05

Just like stuff like that. Yeah, yeah,

23:11

r FK. How to vote multiple times?

23:13

How to use hee lock to buy Fortnite

23:15

skins? All

23:19

right, let's take a quick break.

23:20

We'll come back, we'll get to know you a little better, and

23:33

we're back. And we

23:35

do also like to ask our guests,

23:38

what is something you think is underrated?

23:41

Okay, I've thought about this a lot.

23:44

I've got a lot of different Okay, underrated. I

23:47

think baby boomers are underrated on

23:49

really yeah, I've really

23:52

I've you know, my parents. This

23:55

does spring for me loving my mommy and daddy

23:58

and being like a little bit like when people talking

24:00

about boomers, I love them,

24:02

but I love them.

24:03

Daddy. Oh my daddy is

24:05

one but my daddy's a boomer.

24:08

I think there's this tendency, like dating back

24:10

to the ok Boomer thing that still resonates

24:12

to this day of us blaming all of our problems

24:15

on the baby boomers and them not getting

24:17

it, you know, and them being like, you

24:19

know, like well they they bought a house

24:21

for forty five hundred dollars, or they bought a you

24:24

know, they went to college and it costs like, you

24:26

know, sixteen dollars in a sack of acorns,

24:29

like to go to Harvard or whatever, like we blame on the

24:31

college. And yes, they are out of touch.

24:34

There is an extent, there is like some

24:36

of that. But as I've been getting older,

24:39

I've just been seeing it's like, oh, this

24:41

is just the thing we do over and over

24:43

and over again every generation since

24:46

we've invented the idea of generations,

24:48

which I think might have started with the baby boomers,

24:50

right yeah, yeah, I like, I don't. I don't

24:52

really think people like in the in the

24:55

fourteen nineties were like, oh, you know,

24:57

these fucking renaissancers are coming,

25:00

Renaissance renaissances. Now nobody

25:02

in the renaissance wants to work.

25:04

Becomes my enlightenment ass uncle, like

25:07

the complaints and the fears of young people.

25:10

The older people being afraid of young people

25:12

does go way way.

25:13

The fun back what the fear

25:17

of the young.

25:17

Fear of the young has always been there,

25:20

and also fear of new technology

25:22

to the point of writing down music. Writing

25:25

down like sheet music was

25:27

seen as like the original.

25:29

It was like napster back stealing,

25:33

stealing music. What now I can

25:35

just sell sheet music on the street. It's

25:38

gonna ruin it and my

25:40

tunes? No, yeah, I saw

25:42

that like the original piracy campaign.

25:44

Fifteenth century music. I saw this. This

25:46

isn't good. I was thinking about sharing and when we

25:48

share a little piece of media. But I'm just gonna bring it up now

25:50

because it's so good. Did you guys

25:52

know that the word dildo used

25:54

to just be a placeholder, like the

25:57

way Tala la la la is currently,

25:59

you know, Like.

26:00

Yes, it was like dildo. It's

26:02

like a music like Dale do Dale no

26:04

Deale do deal.

26:05

You know.

26:05

I saw a fam made in and she came my way,

26:08

deal do deal do deal? Like yeah,

26:10

it used to be in the era of loop

26:12

music and everything. I saw this video and

26:14

I had to like keep digging to make sure it

26:16

wasn't somebody just like pulling a prank.

26:19

But it's fifteen This like Brittan It

26:21

was a bb three BBC three interview and

26:24

this like British music historian was just talking

26:26

about how like, yeah, Dilda

26:28

used to just be a placeholder in songs and

26:30

they have recreated some of these songs due

26:33

to the original napster writing down sheet music

26:35

of like this loop music.

26:37

This you can find it if you.

26:39

Look up, like Dildo Dog song

26:41

and this is this dude singing in this high falsetto.

26:44

I almost don't want to say anything else. It's one of the funniest

26:46

videos I've ever seen. Everyone should go look it up.

26:48

It's so funny. But I just

26:50

think I'm like, I don't know, man, I don't think

26:53

the problem is everything we blame on boomers

26:55

is Boomer's fault. I think it's humanity's fault.

26:57

And they're just one of the first generations

26:59

to get name right.

27:01

It is one of those things too. It's like, because we

27:03

don't like right even right now, most

27:05

people don't know who the heads are of like multinational

27:08

fossil fuel companies, so it's like, who

27:10

do I know? Because that's I

27:12

can get angry at them, yeah, because I mild

27:15

them.

27:15

My stepdad, I can get mad at him, like

27:18

that's who I'll be mad at Carl who golfs

27:20

you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure sure. I

27:22

just think it's too easy. It's like the

27:24

next thirty five year old CEO

27:27

of Exon Valdez, is that

27:29

still the company?

27:29

That he's so chill, He's

27:32

gonna be cool man.

27:33

He gets it because he grew you know, like he

27:35

grew up listening to the blueprint, like he'll he'll

27:37

be all right that that in itself is

27:39

now forty year old wikey reference.

27:41

You grew up.

27:41

Listening to fucking

27:44

him.

27:45

Oh my god, gibbety toilet skimmity

27:47

toilet.

27:47

Yeah, like we will have

27:49

a fucking sigma skibbitty toilet

27:52

CEO of northropk Grumman.

27:54

And that's gonna happen because we slap

27:57

off in some generational issues rather

27:59

than identifying these key human elements

28:02

in ourselves. And I just

28:04

think it's not fair to the boomers, which

28:07

I mean whatever again they all own

28:09

homes, whatever, but like who gives a just

28:11

like it's it's avoidant, it's avoidant

28:13

behavior. Where it's like, no, these are human tendencies,

28:16

these are cultural tendencies, things we need to address

28:18

in ourselves rather than blame mommy

28:20

and daddy.

28:21

Yeah. Plus, they're their blood's chuck full of

28:23

lead. What do we expect soul full of.

28:28

The had they had to jack off to memories

28:30

and magazines for most of their lives.

28:32

Yeah, yeah, I

28:35

know. My dad's blood is so leaded. I just

28:37

we used to use his fingernail clippings as

28:39

pencil graft fight kids.

28:41

It's right with those, just

28:44

put them.

28:44

In the h gasoline

28:47

to get.

28:50

I just think, I don't know. It's also it's also uncreative

28:52

dissing, like the boomers ship leave it alone.

28:54

And yes, yes this is me trying

28:57

to change the world because I am on the

28:59

cusp of being boomer.

29:03

Yeah.

29:03

Yeah, I'm so washed. The books

29:06

behind me are like arranged by color. There's

29:08

a beautiful, thriving ivy. I'm

29:10

fucking washed, man. Yeah.

29:13

All the attacks I feel generationally are

29:15

like are all to do with like style and like

29:17

aesthetic things. You're like, dude, don't don't

29:19

don't like don't not me getting caught out here

29:21

wearing millennial last work in stock cloths,

29:24

and I'm like, those just look all right, they

29:26

look all right right.

29:29

By the way, you know who wore the like

29:31

fucking dead sneakers and dead hats

29:33

and ship that you guys actually

29:36

wore probably five years ago, right right,

29:38

Let's boomers started that. Yeah,

29:40

yeah, the sneaker.

29:42

Yeah gen z coming from millennial culture.

29:44

My wife told me the other day that the side

29:46

part is apparently coming back, and

29:48

I'm like, it just left. The ship

29:50

is getting so hid part, you

29:53

know, so like with women's we

29:55

were in the middle part. We were in the middle part

29:57

for so long, like it was, and it was chugi

30:00

I believe was the word at the time to have a

30:02

side part when on the side chuggee

30:06

and mo mo

30:10

and uh. And now the side

30:12

part is like fucking coming back, and it's like, hell,

30:14

yeah, I got you know, like I

30:16

got socks that are older than that change

30:19

and I go through socks pretty regularly. So

30:22

another apparently until

30:25

the speaking they're

30:28

falling off your feet like you're emerging

30:30

from the jungles. The no

30:32

show socks are apparently like mad millennial

30:35

now and you're not supposed to do that. You got to have a sock showing,

30:37

Yeah.

30:38

They say, you're clocked easily as over

30:40

thirty if you got the no socks on. They're like, you

30:42

know what you don't else clocks me easily

30:44

is over thirty?

30:45

My fucking face, yeah,

30:51

my my hairline retreating back

30:53

on my forehead, and also my fuck, my

30:55

concerns, my concerns, clucked me. I'm

30:58

on blood pressure medication. Look at my look

31:00

at my pharmaceuticals. Man that you

31:04

know how far down the list my socks are deep.

31:07

Actually, blood pressure medications.

31:09

The hot new party drug kids

31:16

Kid's

31:22

something you think is over it?

31:23

Okay, I put

31:26

down the list here. I'm

31:28

gonna I'm gonna spend this entire podcast

31:30

destroying now in this section any

31:32

goodwill that I had before. I'm

31:34

not saying it's bad. I'm

31:37

saying it's getting a little overrated. Is

31:39

a letterbox culture. Letterbox

31:41

culture, this is and

31:43

this is an extremely online

31:46

complain. And I do the same

31:49

thing. I do the same thing with watching movies, and I

31:51

do the same thing with reading books in

31:53

a big way. But it's this sort

31:55

of like, but it's especially

31:57

bad in letterbox culture, where it's like reclaim

31:59

the is this sort of reclaiming old

32:02

bad movies yeah. Then I feel

32:04

like like where there

32:06

was this you The first time I noticed

32:08

it was when like the Wachowski speed

32:10

Racer movie.

32:11

Oh my god, Wood

32:13

Racer is an actual classic. Okay,

32:17

what there is?

32:17

There's this like huge letterbox

32:20

community of being like that speed Racer movie

32:22

is actually one of the great movies

32:24

that was made in the last decade or whenever it got

32:26

made.

32:27

So just for my understanding,

32:29

I know, like letterbox is sort of like this social

32:32

like it's a platform, right where people kind of basically

32:34

share their taste and like you could, everyone

32:36

has like a profile where you can see

32:39

you put yeah

32:42

it is a new sorry go ahead,

32:44

no no, so no, just yeah, because I'm

32:47

I know it because I see so much on Twitter that like

32:49

just by just sheer osmosis,

32:51

Like I understand what it is, but I know there are plenty

32:53

of people who are not as terminally online as we are that

32:56

aren't understanding. So yeah, it's especially

32:59

I see a lot of sin file flexing there.

33:01

But the idea that they're trying

33:03

to revise, we're doing a

33:05

revisionist take on the Wachowski

33:08

Speed Racer movie. I saw that ship

33:10

in the theater thinking it was gonna be. I

33:12

didn't. Somehow, even though the trailer communicated

33:15

to me that this was not going to be good, I

33:17

still went. I think because I was like, as a kid,

33:19

I like the cartoon or the anime, and

33:21

then I was like, this is I feel like I'm gonna

33:24

have like not even like a good kind of seizure

33:26

in here, all.

33:27

Right, right, like a bad like the bad kind like that.

33:30

I did just a blood pressure medication blocker,

33:33

you know.

33:33

Yeah, yeah, from from my dad was in

33:36

his dick pills.

33:37

I'm doing high pertension. We're high pretension

33:39

rolling and going to see.

33:44

Uh.

33:44

But I just I just think it's it's

33:47

on the one hand, I mean, I'm not trying to

33:49

rain on anyone's parade. You know, I have fun

33:51

as much as you want loger movies. I think that's great.

33:54

At the other it's this weird. It's

33:56

this there's

33:58

this strange cultural

34:01

consensus and

34:03

like critical reappraisal of things

34:06

that becomes very self

34:08

sustaining within letterbox culture,

34:12

where it is no longer

34:14

it's you know, there was a like iconic

34:17

list of movies, and then this iconoclastic

34:19

list of movies that I think has emerged out of letterbox

34:22

culture in an attempt to sort

34:24

of break that down. But I think then that

34:26

iconoclastic list of new

34:28

movies has become the iconic

34:31

list of movies within this community again, where

34:33

there's all these like reappraisals of these new

34:36

like this director is more important

34:38

than we thought. That director actually sucks, this more

34:40

important. Where it's like I

34:43

just think it's like a little bit overrated. And I

34:45

end up watching a lot of these movies and maybe I'm stupid,

34:47

and maybe that's just the thing I don't get and I don't

34:49

appreciate film the same way. But like,

34:51

I will try to engage with these movies

34:54

and I'll leave them being like, no,

34:56

that did suck. I did not. I did not enjoy

34:58

that movie.

34:59

What speed Racer five

35:01

times this year? I can't fucking

35:03

get my money. Fine, I'll see if it

35:06

changes.

35:07

Yeah, I whip I I I whip myself

35:09

in the back with that whip from the UH division.

35:14

I will hit myself with that. I will do push

35:16

an arsenal fan the character of Paul

35:19

Bettany silas the weird

35:22

son averse monk who with himself

35:25

and self flatulated.

35:26

But you can see from what I know about Arsenal.

35:28

I think there might be some aspect of self flagellation.

35:31

Yeah, you've been around enough of us schooners

35:33

for sure.

35:34

But I'm just I watch it and I'm like, you know what, this

35:36

this overrated? Uh. The truth

35:38

I've landed upon and trying to talk about this to

35:40

you, is that it makes me feel insecure, and

35:43

that's why I don't like Yeah exactly.

35:46

So I loved the movie teen Wolf when I

35:48

was a kid, absolutely, and then I

35:50

grew up and I had like film

35:52

takes, and I took my film taste really

35:55

seriously, and then I watched the

35:57

movie teen Wolf again, yeah, and I still

35:59

fucking and I was like

36:02

every so every movie

36:04

that I've ever watched is just viewed

36:07

through a teen Wolf shaped lens

36:09

of like what movies should be, and

36:11

my taste in movies is completely

36:14

subjective and like doesn't.

36:16

And like that.

36:16

I think as long as everybody's willing

36:19

to admit that that, like, you're

36:21

just you probably like Speed Racer a lot because

36:23

you saw it when you were like nine, and

36:26

like filters in some weird

36:28

way through a nine year old brain that it

36:30

doesn't necessarily work for through a chi

36:32

or through an adult brain or a teenager's

36:35

brain, and so like we're all just going to agree

36:37

to disagree on that one. But like

36:39

it's just movies are so fucking

36:41

subjective, so based on how it

36:43

was feeling at the first Ah, yeah I watch it

36:45

that like.

36:47

Yeah, it's so because like there

36:49

are times people will suggest movies to me and

36:51

I'm on the brink of losing respect for them

36:53

after I see it, and I'm like, you

36:55

fucking fuck dude. I thought

36:57

we were on the same page it

37:00

and then I'm like I don't. But then again, that's

37:03

just like it's truly from whatever.

37:05

Like the things that they said they liked about it were like the things

37:07

I hated, And I was like, oh, you know what, I'll

37:09

never It's just it's just one of those things where you have to

37:12

like not get to like get

37:14

out of your sophomore year dorm room. We're

37:16

like, you don't fucking fuck with City of God. Yeah

37:20

of God, you know what I mean?

37:21

That was my most pretentious,

37:24

my favorite movie.

37:25

I didn't ask you that.

37:26

Probably City of City of Gods.

37:29

Have to pick one. I'm not making you. Those

37:31

kids are from those

37:34

aren't even actors. Those are real Footbella

37:36

kids crying in that scene. So I

37:38

don't know anybody else.

37:41

Did you even know that Brazilian people could be

37:43

poor, because I just found out in the City

37:45

of God.

37:47

That's just like they wore just yellow shirts

37:49

playing soccer all the time. This

37:51

ship was wrong, whole country, there was a

37:53

military dictatorship.

37:58

We're all just watching John d Woman waiting for her

38:00

to hop up on the top of a van and

38:02

serve. Yeah.

38:03

Yeah, yeah.

38:05

I also think not to get too deep, but

38:07

I do think we like we

38:09

live in an airwar where I think we're searching for meaning

38:11

and a lot of our basic needs are taken care of

38:14

for better or for worse in a lot of ways.

38:17

And I think a lot of people find themselves at thirty

38:20

and they're like, Okay, I have a job.

38:22

I make enough money, but my job is not my cause

38:26

I don't really have any hobbies

38:28

that I'm passionate enough about that

38:31

I can derive meaning from them. So

38:33

I think what I'm going to do is

38:36

watch movies and

38:38

log those movies, and that

38:40

will be my higher calling, right,

38:43

And I kind of think that's a little bit of that happening

38:45

where it's like I watch in log movies and there's a little

38:47

community based around it. And I guess in

38:49

that way, maybe letterbox

38:51

is underrated.

38:52

These are the Talmudik scholars of our

38:54

time. I think it kind of is yeah.

38:58

About like Taylor's Left fandom

39:00

and like stuff like that, Like I think you're I

39:03

think this is what we have instead of organized

39:05

religion, Like as organized

39:07

religion has faded in the last fifty years, like

39:09

this is the

39:11

needs that organized religion

39:14

were was addressing

39:16

did not go away. And so that's

39:19

what this overly strong,

39:22

desperate Sometimes feelings about

39:24

culture can come from.

39:26

People will each other over that, Jack, which

39:28

which one would you keep? Catholicism or

39:31

letter box culture.

39:32

That's a great question.

39:34

As a Catholic, I can't. I

39:37

can't answer that.

39:38

Guilty will.

39:43

Again I'm gonna

39:46

split the difference Godfather three because

39:49

that.

39:49

One very Catholic. I think

39:51

the Pope.

39:51

Order is a hit. I think at one point

39:54

like a helicopter hit. I don't know, I didn't see

39:56

it whenever.

39:57

That's Paul Bettany and fucking Da Vinci code Baby

39:59

the same thing.

40:00

Yeah, Yeah, you can't trust popes.

40:02

It turns out.

40:03

Speig a way follow me in hell l for twenty

40:05

sixty nine on letterbox or.

40:12

Yeah I'm not on letterbox, and like

40:14

it's similar to how I feel about video

40:16

games. It's like I would just lose so much

40:18

time to that shit, Like that's all

40:20

I would do. I get my movie recommendations

40:23

from podcasts perfect.

40:26

Yeah, yeah, like an adult, like

40:28

an adult and I but even like

40:31

speed Racer very big among like

40:33

podcast film bros.

40:35

For sure?

40:36

Is it?

40:36

Oh my god? Yeah? Yeah really

40:39

see that's why it truly is like that's why when I

40:41

when I get in that feeling like these what the fuck

40:43

are they talking about? And they start getting angry, that's

40:45

when that's my cue emotionally to be like it's

40:48

you just got to let people do what they do. Remember,

40:50

Miles, you can only control what your control

40:52

of. Don't worry about what other people like it. That's

40:54

what they do. There's plenty of shit you like that. People

40:56

will get fucking over the moon over that shit.

40:59

So just disengage and let

41:01

go and let let let and let letterbox.

41:04

Yeah meaningful

41:07

for some people that like they just never

41:09

were like it just you know, they couldn't

41:11

get they bought season tickets.

41:13

Yeah yeah, yeah.

41:15

The other thing not to keep dwelling up.

41:17

But I also think like it is, you

41:19

know, when we were growing up, or when I was growing

41:21

up, there were like three people in the

41:24

culture who were like that. You know, it was like Ciskel and Ebert

41:26

and your local film person and that who cared about

41:28

movies like that, you know, unless

41:30

you worked in a video store. And now like all these

41:32

people can find each other, so it seems like ever present,

41:35

right.

41:35

Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like everyone

41:37

has become Kevin Smith.

41:39

Yeah right, there were so many more Kevin Smith

41:41

than we knew about. They just like they had enough

41:43

ambition to log a movie, not to direct one.

41:45

And now you can just log a movie, right right right,

41:47

Yeah, there you go.

41:49

And maybe we wouldn't have Quentin Tarantino if

41:51

Letterbox existed back then, that he would

41:53

have just been the most prolific person on letterbox.

41:55

And just watch watch regular

41:57

foot porn.

41:59

Yeah

41:59

yeahs

42:03

got right, yeah, yeah exactly,

42:06

you would just do cocaine and instead

42:08

of writing pulp fiction, just like

42:11

log three thousand movies in a single

42:13

night.

42:13

Exactly, and just say the N word privately

42:17

in his letterbox. Quentin

42:23

showed up with another letterbox jam

42:27

loose reviews.

42:28

It's just so weird how

42:30

the characters in his reviews keep

42:33

using that word.

42:34

It doesn't really seem appropriate. I'm writing

42:36

this one in character, y'all.

42:39

All right, let's take a quick break and we will

42:42

get to some news. We'll be

42:44

right back, and

42:55

we're back. And speaking

42:58

of places where big debates,

43:01

the debates over the big questions

43:04

happen online. The

43:06

Kelsey Brothers, did this happen on their

43:08

podcast? No? No,

43:11

no, okay, Jason.

43:13

Kelce this was on Fresh Air.

43:15

Yeah, Terry gross.

43:17

And him, Terry grossed out. I'm back

43:19

and forth, Terry

43:22

grossed out.

43:23

Yeah.

43:24

He Basically, this is a

43:26

thing I have heard frequently

43:30

from usually white

43:33

men.

43:33

The hygiene debates.

43:34

Yeah, hygiene debates that are like I

43:38

don't need Yeah, like I don't

43:40

need to wash my hands, right,

43:43

I've never washed my legs.

43:45

Why would I wash my legs. I haven't

43:47

looked at my knees in fourteen years? Yeah?

43:49

Really what? But yeah, the hygiene

43:52

debates have popped up because of Travis.

43:54

And this one isn't about

43:56

frequency or soap use or what parts

43:59

of them. It's about what parts actually

44:01

get washed. The time honored one because

44:03

someone tweeted, they said, tweed,

44:06

Jason Kelsey look like he doesn't wash his legs

44:08

or feet. And then he quote tweeted that and said

44:10

what kind of weirdo washes their feet? And

44:13

that was the assassination of

44:15

the Archduke Frans Ferdinand that kicked off

44:17

the online world war, so

44:20

to speak. So then he retweeted

44:22

a study that I guess was debunked about

44:24

how not washing your feet meant that you had

44:26

less active bacteria than a frequent

44:28

foot washer. There was like a Twitter note

44:31

that was even like clipped onto that when he pust

44:33

posted it, and then he tweeted, quote,

44:36

all of you have been fed diabolical

44:38

lies. That's a reference to that buttcker dude,

44:40

the kicker who gave that commencement speech.

44:43

He said diabolical wise about feminism anyway, that

44:45

washing every crevice of your well, we'll

44:48

go on. He said that washing every crevice of your

44:50

bodies and hair all the time is somehow

44:52

better or healthier. Any dermatologists

44:54

not in bed with big soap will agree hotspots

44:57

or all that is necessary and actually

44:59

leads to cleaner, healthier skin. And

45:01

everyone's like, oh, what are

45:04

you talking about? And they're like wait, so what what do

45:06

you watch? He's like obviously, they're like, like,

45:08

if I get muddy in a game, I'm gonna clean the

45:10

mud off my body. I'm not stupid, but

45:12

I only need to pay attention to the hotspots,

45:15

which are ass pits and balls,

45:17

as he puts it, no shaft, shaft,

45:22

just this, just the balls. Just

45:25

no, yeah, don't do anything else? Now, is

45:28

this like a again? Some

45:30

people thought he was trolling other people

45:33

because but but I think the hard part

45:35

to know if he's show it or not is because this is such a real

45:37

thing that people like pick up this mantle

45:39

for this argument and like, I'm fucking going

45:41

into the breach with this fucking argument

45:44

because other people who are like caping

45:46

for him, and the replies were like, dude, it's actually

45:48

worse to be one of these people that smell like

45:50

soap all the time. I

45:55

just sat like, they

45:58

smell like soap. Gross o, my god, dude,

46:00

this will smell like soap and ship what is

46:02

going on?

46:03

So bay smell like an Irish spring? Get them the hell

46:05

out of here.

46:06

Yeah, oh bro, I bet he cut a little

46:08

piece off with a buck knife from the bar

46:10

like in the commercial. But like, based

46:12

on just this story, I feel like the

46:14

collar of maybe every dress shirt that Jason

46:17

Kelce has worn unless looks like he does oil changes

46:19

with them. Because again, you

46:22

gotta exfoliate your ship, you know what I mean, like

46:24

stink or not, your dead skin cells

46:26

do build up and you know you will

46:28

have a gros many whatever. Like I don't give a shit

46:31

what Jason Kelse does, but it is just when it's

46:33

it's funny to see how this ship comes out

46:35

and now it immediately people like you

46:37

don't have to wash your legs. You

46:39

don't have to do that. You have to wash your feet.

46:42

I mean, I'm not a big leg foot washer.

46:45

Yeah, okay, I'm a foot washer.

46:47

Your foot washer.

46:48

I don't.

46:49

I probably don't pay as much attention to my legs

46:51

as.

46:51

This is how I work. If I'm

46:53

taking a quick shower, I

46:56

have to and I have to go. I'm I'm

46:58

team hotspots.

46:59

Yeah hot spots.

46:59

Yeah, like if I have to quick turn around. But

47:02

to me, that does not in my mind, I'm like,

47:04

oh, I really bathed when I do that shit,

47:07

when I really in my mind, I'm like, I'm cleaning

47:09

up. I get that exfoliating fucking

47:11

scrubber towel that the Japanese people use,

47:14

and I fucking I get that dead skin

47:16

the fuck off my body all over. That's

47:18

like a I do not do that.

47:20

And sometimes I will like rub my shoulder

47:22

and there will be like killed

47:24

up dead ye, skilled up dead skin.

47:26

Yeah, yeah, this you gotta exfoliate. Jason. Come

47:28

on, Jason, we gotta get that scrubber.

47:31

Did your where did you find out

47:33

about the towel? Was this someone that was taught

47:35

something that was taught to you as a youth? Yes,

47:37

this is cultural, so like culture, Japanese

47:40

culture. Right, Like you before

47:42

you get into a bathtub, you wash

47:44

your body outside of the tub and get all

47:46

your dead skin off because you don't want to bring all that

47:48

shit into a tub where usually you

47:50

keep the water clean and you get it's just for

47:53

chilling it. You don't get in there and start

47:55

scrubbing your shit and then leaving a ring of like

47:57

a ring of dead skin in the bathtub. Like

48:00

just submerge yourself in there. So you're taught

48:02

to get all your dead skin off and

48:04

then you can enjoy the thing.

48:06

So like if you go to like an on set or like a hot spring

48:08

in Japan, that's like a public thing. You're always

48:10

you're always told you're supposed to bathe yourself

48:13

before you enter the hot spring because you're not bringing

48:15

a bunch of bullshit off your body into the

48:17

hot spring. So there's there

48:19

are these like sort of like scrubbing towels

48:21

that we have in like Japan,

48:23

and I think it like it's like this isn't anything new. There's all

48:25

kinds of exfoliating things that people use, but using

48:28

that specifically to get all my dead skin off

48:30

my arms and legs and neck and shit like that.

48:33

So we did an

48:35

episode of the Cracked podcast about

48:37

stereotypes about white people

48:40

and one of them is

48:43

that white people do not use wash

48:45

clothes in the shower, worsh

48:47

cloths, worsh cloth. And that's

48:49

something that I actually encountered at basketball

48:51

camp, was somebody making

48:53

fun of me for not using a washcloth

48:56

and being like, so, do you wash

48:59

your dick by like jacking on? And

49:04

I was like.

49:05

Kind of fuck, yeah, leave

49:07

me alone.

49:08

Yeah yeah, but they just watched my jacket off

49:10

of the towel horse

49:12

and their ivory.

49:13

Tower or it's just sort of like yeah,

49:15

it's it's it's it's a it's more masculine if

49:17

there's a cotton barrier between my hands.

49:20

Yeah, white American

49:22

males are sent into the world of bathing the

49:24

way like Soviet soldiers were sent in the storm,

49:26

regrat on arm

49:30

just like best.

49:32

No information, no information

49:36

that we even have to do this.

49:37

Well, none of that stuff, just like

49:40

go out there and and and good luck.

49:42

I like, I don't remember a single lesson.

49:44

I just remember being in a shower one day,

49:46

like I guess I soaked myself up and then just let

49:48

it. And like my logic to this day

49:51

that I retain is that the

49:53

soapy water works its way

49:55

down my torso onto my legs, and my

49:57

feet are where the water the soap

49:59

is. So I'm like, I guess I think that's enough.

50:02

The soap touched it, touched it,

50:04

But I'm not.

50:06

That's where the That's where I think the introduction

50:08

for Metell, intellectually

50:11

speaking, you know what I mean about

50:13

the idea of dead skin was that it was not

50:15

enough to have the skin wet or have the soap

50:18

touch it, is that you have to get

50:20

all that dead skin off because shit that on

50:22

my feet too, Like I got the ship

50:25

builds up, especially when I'm like going the sandals

50:27

of shit all the time. Like I definitely noticed

50:30

when I'm like, oh, that's a lot of fucking dead skin

50:32

that I need to get off and it plus it helps we have everything

50:34

clean.

50:35

We have ash privilege. That's the thing about

50:37

white people. It takes like you

50:39

don't know that you're quote unquote Ashley

50:42

until it gets very like it has to be very

50:44

evident to where like you've got

50:46

like elephant knees, you know what I.

50:48

Mean, And you're like your elbows, your it looks like the Bonneville

50:50

Salt Flats.

50:52

It's craked, and like, yeah,

50:54

it's not until it gets to that point that we're like, oh,

50:56

I should probably address it's.

51:00

Sort of dirty priv my dirty Caucasian,

51:03

dirty Caucasian privilege. Yeah, knee

51:07

pads. Is that not normal? Yeah?

51:17

I definitely that's the That's where

51:19

I get my direction,

51:22

the direction that I wash in as I go

51:24

top to bottom, so that you know everything's

51:26

getting cleaned before. But I

51:29

go to work on my feet because I had

51:32

hyper hydrosis throughout my life

51:34

and sweaty feet that absolutely

51:37

would clear out a fucking Also,

51:39

a basketball camp with like one

51:42

time cleared out an entire dorm room.

51:44

Oh you damn, it was bad. That sucks.

51:46

I remember that happened in fifth grade when we went

51:48

to an astro camp and this

51:51

motherfucker cried. I remember because we were so fucked

51:53

up about his shoes swilling up the place.

51:55

But he did, He literally cleared out a dorm. Yeah,

51:58

that's kind of this is fucked up. You

52:03

should start washing my.

52:07

Yeah,

52:10

hold the soap in my hands and assume

52:12

that that kind of trends.

52:16

There was no time to wash our feet. There was only

52:18

time to go West America.

52:23

I strode through a bog on

52:25

the way. That's good enough.

52:29

Well, we're learning something about everyone

52:32

today, you know.

52:32

Yeah, I guess so.

52:33

I also think Jason Kelsey, he's

52:36

that dude's funny, and I think he's riffing on my

52:39

hairson Podker, he's riffing on Aaron Rodgers,

52:41

and he's not actually mad. He's

52:43

just doing the like I am. I think

52:45

he does is serious about not washing his

52:47

legs or feet. But I think you're saying

52:50

pretending to be Yeah, because he's

52:52

a smart, funny guy.

52:53

Yeah, but what do you think he's actually washing the feet

52:55

or no?

52:56

No,

52:59

no chance.

53:00

But this is a good opportunity to just to stand

53:03

on that and be like, oh yeah, good time.

53:04

He's I think he's doing there, like like

53:07

the way people when people get heated, like if you if

53:09

you're like, you know, butter pe can ice

53:11

cream is the best kind of ice cream in anyone

53:13

else?

53:15

Different, fucking stupid.

53:17

Yeah, go drown yourself in the ocean and become

53:19

food for the octopus or like what you know, Like

53:21

he doesn't actually mean that, it's just a funny way

53:23

to have that argument.

53:24

Well, I do want to encourage everyone. You gotta exfliate

53:26

that dead skin. Exfloridate that dead

53:29

skin. You'll be fucking but you're

53:31

you'll be blown away when you're like, what the oh,

53:34

there's a literal three centimeters of

53:36

thickness of skin.

53:37

I'm actually I'm actually five eleven. It's just most.

53:46

What a pleasure, guys, pleasure.

53:49

It was such said I

53:51

was lying about my height. Where

53:57

can people find you? Follow you? Hear

53:59

you all the.

54:00

Oh hell yeah, Please buy

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Come check us out.

54:32

What a blast? And is there a

54:35

work of media that you've been enjoying?

54:38

Yes, so there were two. I tried

54:40

to find one. Let me see if my Twitter

54:42

trolling has produced any results. It

54:46

has not. God damn it. I saw this video

54:48

and I didn't save it. But there's a fan cam

54:50

somebody made of Luka Doncic just

54:52

like scoring easy buckets

54:54

and then dancing and talking shit that I've

54:56

just real I saw like two weeks ago, and I

54:58

loved it so much. Failing that, there's

55:01

this new reality series on hbon

55:03

Max called ren Fair, which

55:05

is about the first episode came

55:07

out. It's like a

55:09

a succession struggle in

55:12

the in Texas's biggest renaissance

55:14

fair. It's fucking nuts.

55:16

Wow.

55:16

The first episode is out now, and like,

55:18

I'm hooked and I don't usually watch that kind of

55:21

thing, but it's the characters are insane.

55:23

That sounds amazing. Yeah, awesome.

55:26

Well thanks again for coming. Miles Where can people

55:28

find you as their work Amedia, you've been

55:30

enjoying let's see.

55:32

Yes, find me on where, Twitter,

55:34

Instagram, at Miles of Gray and elsewhere.

55:37

Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast

55:40

we panic over potential eighteenth

55:42

championship for those busts.

55:45

And also I'm calm about it.

55:47

All your zen that's fine, I'm

55:50

actually quite sen about the whole thing.

55:55

What else? You can also find me on the ninety

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Sophie ally Xandra, and check

56:01

me out on the latest episode of My Mama Told Me the

56:03

Langston Kerman David Bori podcast. I'm talking

56:05

about Rainbow parties. Just

56:08

how groundbreaking that was. Some

56:11

tweets that I like this

56:14

is one. It's really stupid. It's at weird

56:16

Bongs posted

56:19

this thing. It's a like for

56:21

people who don't know some weed packaging

56:24

has become like this, like super

56:26

hyper graphical die cut

56:28

ziplock bag shit where it's like a ziplock

56:30

bag in different kinds of shapes that could

56:32

be anything from like a fucking Jason

56:35

mask to a cloud or in

56:37

this instance, the Twin

56:39

Towers. Uh. And this

56:42

one is called the Gone but not

56:44

Forgotten nine to eleven packs. This

56:47

has gotta smoke that Twin Towers pack.

56:50

This is I don't it could

56:52

be not real, but based on everything I've

56:54

seen about weed packaging, I wouldn't

56:56

be surprised if it was real. That's oh

56:58

wow. So anyway, but not forgotten?

57:01

Yeah, amazing. I also had a

57:03

weird bung tweet that

57:05

I liked recently. I was just a picture

57:07

of Sid from toy Story and

57:10

it says he didn't even do anything. He was literally

57:12

out creating art. How the fuck was

57:14

he supposed to know? Those motherfuckers were alive.

57:17

They shouldn't be.

57:21

Very good, Justice

57:24

said, Justice for said? Is

57:26

that his name? Sid? Yeah? If

57:29

it should be the fucking.

57:31

Nasty, the nasty little Uh?

57:34

Maybe he was just creating art.

57:36

He got veneers. He actually

57:39

looks pretty cool man. Yeah, he looks better. I

57:41

remember I was like, oh I know about that Sid.

57:43

You got him? You got he got hooked up.

57:45

Yeah, if that's just the choice he made, that would

57:47

it felt like the right decision for him? I think that's great.

57:49

Look man, Affleck did it all the great?

57:52

You can find me on Twitter

57:54

at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find

57:56

us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at

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58:01

fanpage on a website, Daily zeitgeis

58:03

dot com where we post our episodes and our

58:05

footnote when we link off to the information

58:07

that we talked about in today's episode, as well

58:09

as a song that we think you might enjoy.

58:12

Miles, what song do you think.

58:14

People might think?

58:14

You know?

58:15

It's that the sun has started

58:17

to somewhat consistently emerge in LA,

58:19

which I'm really enjoying. So now I'm starting

58:21

to get little summertime vibes

58:24

activating in my body. This is

58:26

let's go out on like thet's some dance music, you know

58:28

what I mean. This is the soul Wax

58:30

remix of Marie Davidson's track

58:32

work It, so you're gonna search Work It Soul

58:35

Wax remix. Soul Wax are also too many

58:37

DJs you probably are also like Dspasio

58:41

like the sounds they do fucking

58:43

everything but Soul Wax Remix

58:46

to work it. It's really great track, and

58:48

it just feels like, you know, just some shit that

58:50

you play in your car when you're driving to go

58:52

get your nine to eleven pack or groceries

58:54

or babyfood, whatever you're doing. Yeah, just just

58:57

just bump this out of your speakers or headphones.

58:59

Work it. So Renix, go

59:01

go work it. Ran all

59:04

right.

59:04

We will link off to that in the footnote. For dailies

59:06

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