0:05

When I point out it's for Jesus. Hey,

0:07

I know, I know, Jack, like say, antagonized

0:10

me because I'm a I'm a follower of Christ myself.

0:12

So yeah, yeah, Miles has

0:15

some stories about his boy.

0:17

Man. Look that's what I'm saying. Man, it's

0:20

like, you know, just like Jesus

0:22

got a lot of coupons too, because he saves. Also.

0:25

You know, now, Greg, what you can't tell.

0:26

Miles is wearing a bucket hat, so you can't tell

0:28

that he just turned it around backwards. But it

0:31

is on backwards, so he's.

0:32

Let me, you're

0:34

going to turn it around. It was just going to have a giant cross on

0:36

the front. Let

0:38

me wrap tea for a second. Let me just

0:41

let me talk to you as Miles rather than pastor

0:43

Miles for a second. Those

0:47

clouds coming on them. Out of office. I was testing a

0:49

new fog machine for our next service

0:51

on Sunday. We're doing a little more you know, light production.

0:53

It wasn't, I'm not. Don't look at the lasers,

0:56

dude, don't. Why do they smell like chemicals?

0:59

It smells like pinicle. It's vape juice, all right,

1:01

you got me, got me, it's vaping. Vaving

1:03

them fucking vapor for the Lord.

1:11

Hello the Internet, and welcome to season

1:14

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And it is Wednesday, June twenty

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sixth, twenty twenty four.

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2:00

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2:19

That Yeah, a

2:21

coconut bitch. Okay,

2:23

all right, you like chocolate pudding, but

2:26

I'm a coconut bitch. I'm not sure

2:28

thing. You know what I you know, have you ever bought coconut

2:31

syrup? Yes, Jude, I

2:33

put that on ship, and I put it on things

2:35

that it shouldn't go on, and I then, yeah,

2:38

it's great, like a hamburger. No,

2:41

well, sweets good.

2:44

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2:46

else it goes on, it should probably

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2:57

That is courtesy of Cleo Universe rest

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in p RIP two

3:02

and I looked it up.

3:03

Fifty shifty shell shock.

3:04

Right, doesn't that have to way? At age forty nine?

3:07

Yea the frontman of rap

3:09

rock band Crazy Town, Yeah, who

3:11

just passed away at age forty nine.

3:14

One of the sickest baselines too.

3:15

In that song.

3:18

What was that song called counter

3:20

Lady eure a butterfly

3:23

not suck suck Yeah,

3:25

yeah, what a song. The aesthetic

3:28

of that video, oh

3:30

yeah, so specific.

3:33

And I think it was like the theme song

3:35

for like Sierra mist or some shit or

3:37

some right. I remember when that came out, it was like, oh.

3:39

Fuck, theme song in my life. Every time

3:41

I walked into a room. I wanted that

3:44

playing in people's minds, and that's

3:47

why I dressed like I did and got

3:49

all those eyebrow piercings.

3:51

I'm thrilled to be joined as always by

3:54

my co host mister.

3:54

Miles grass Is Miles Gray in

3:57

honor of the Pringles Queen

3:59

herself, Blair. So I gotta hit you at oh

4:02

Pringles, in them morn in Pringles, in the evening,

4:04

in Pringles, when you got a deadline, when

4:06

you when you progress to and ain't on a

4:08

project, eat cads of Pringles

4:11

any time. And Blair

4:13

famously said she'll eat two cans

4:15

of Pringles when she's working on something just

4:17

to pass the time. And I respect

4:19

a two can sam type, you

4:22

know, dedication level like that from Blair. So shout

4:24

out to you, Blair, and shout out to Peanut Buddy

4:26

Brown on the discord for that. AKA.

4:28

You remember the Pringles thing where they gave themselves a little duck

4:30

bill, little Pringles duck bill.

4:32

That's very hard to do, very hard

4:34

to do.

4:34

But they that gesture

4:37

by that actor probably just like tossed

4:39

off, you know, But I'm sure that

4:41

wasn't like part of a focused

4:43

group decision to do the duck bill, but.

4:45

I always that's the one. The commercial

4:48

that was took place on the beach, I believe, yes,

4:50

And there's I identify with the guy who

4:52

has the bag of lays and goes greasy

4:54

not fun. Uh yeah, He's.

4:56

Like, oh my fucking lays of

4:58

the beach.

4:59

I I can't believe how well I know that

5:02

that fucking jingle pop up, Oh Mau

5:04

mau, pop up, bring goals. Wow wow,

5:07

I didn't. I didn't remember it. Once your fun the

5:09

fun dolls. Once your pop the fun dolls

5:12

stop. Greasy not fun anyway,

5:16

So.

5:18

Most of the day such

5:20

like baby language, greasy, not fun.

5:24

Because the guy was such a dork. He was like, oh

5:26

man, I'm at the beach. I got a shirt on. They got fucking

5:28

chip grease all over myself.

5:29

Yeah, embarrassing, not me. That's

5:32

how I oiled up. Oh

5:34

god, yeah,

5:37

that's why it was so golden Miles.

5:40

Enough bullshit.

5:41

We're thrilled to be joined once again

5:44

by very funny comedian improviser

5:46

you may know from the hilarious podcast.

5:49

Mega and we got a new

5:51

one.

5:51

A new hilarious podcast is called Get It to Dutch

5:54

Please, welcome Greg.

5:59

Guys. This was like a real it was a real

6:01

joy to listen to. It was almost like a

6:03

clockwork orange reference

6:05

audio reference levels to things that happened in

6:07

the early two thousands that I was like, oh yeah, and

6:09

that Pringles thing, yeah,

6:12

it was it was you remember that, right?

6:15

I do remember that? Yeah, And I

6:17

remember that music video too. My god,

6:19

was that like just watching

6:22

CP yeah

6:25

yeah yeah, Like.

6:26

There were little like the lane flares happen

6:28

in.

6:28

All those screen flares.

6:30

Deep contact with the camera

6:33

from Shifty left

6:35

at what what do we call them? Shifty?

6:37

I thought it said shitty this morning.

6:40

Wait, like, what a tough name? A

6:42

shifty shell shock?

6:43

Oh?

6:46

I thought it said shitty shell Shock this morning. Was

6:48

like, you know, it's a cool name until

6:50

it's your obituary and then everyone's

6:53

like, and we are today morning, shitty

6:55

shell shock.

6:56

But that's not right.

6:57

It was Shifty and all

6:59

right.

7:00

Yeah, yeah, all right, man, that's

7:02

a tough one because he was also like I remember he was always

7:04

on like celebrity rehab and stuff, and he

7:06

was like his latter day career was always like the

7:09

due from crazy Town's kind of a fucking mess.

7:12

Yeah, a little I'm sure not the best

7:15

ending for him, but yes, a great song.

7:18

Thank you for that.

7:19

Also, what hr people call like a

7:21

messed up situation? Crazy

7:24

town in here, guys, everybody

7:26

just needs to take a take a beat. Leave.

7:30

But Greg, So, the

7:32

last time you were on, which was pre pandemic

7:35

days, we were talking about MEGA, which

7:37

is an improvised comedic podcast

7:39

about megachurches. Take us megachurch.

7:42

Yeah, we're still jamming

7:44

MEGA. It's been great. Yeah, if

7:47

people want a little uh reprieve

7:49

from constant evangelical

7:52

Christianity seeping into your political and personal

7:54

lives, come and make some hay with

7:56

us on MEGA. It's a very fund improvised

7:58

podcast.

7:59

Or if you just want to break from your megachurch.

8:02

You know you're spending all day every day at

8:04

your megachurch.

8:05

You want to know it's so weird, dude, We get

8:07

people that come to it. Actually, somebody just

8:09

messaged me yesterday and said they put on an episode

8:11

in the car with their evangelical friend who

8:14

was like, this is God, this is great. Yeah,

8:16

as we were like trying trying to fake

8:18

save someone on the podcast and

8:21

every day, Yeah, where

8:23

did these folks worship at? I'd love to go. I

8:25

know what they're working with here, I

8:28

know. So yeah, if even if you even

8:30

if you want a fake worship experience, you can come join

8:32

us over on Mega and then tell us about Get

8:34

It to Dutch. We got a new iHeart

8:37

podcast and uh, honestly,

8:39

you know how when you when you make something

8:42

and you you want to be like, ye, it's pretty

8:44

good, you know, like uh, and you kind of try to downplay

8:46

it. And I'm trying to do this thing in

8:49

my life in general, which is look,

8:51

you don't always have to be self deprecating,

8:54

and this is one of those things to me,

8:57

well of just like you know, when you make something

9:00

and you're like, you know what, God damn it. I'm actually

9:02

really excited and proud about this. Yeah.

9:04

We have this new podcast and it's called Get

9:06

It to Dutch, and it's basically

9:09

me and my two best friends who I've

9:12

done comedy with now for twenty years, ever since we

9:14

came up in Chicago and Second City,

9:17

And it's called Get

9:19

It to Dutch because we play three struggling

9:21

screenwriters who are trying to get

9:24

a screenplay to a fictional producer

9:26

named Dutch Huxley. And every

9:29

week we come in and we read a piece

9:31

of one of the screenplays that we think about

9:33

sending to him, and so it's

9:35

an improvised banter at the table,

9:37

and then we get into it and we actually read

9:40

pieces of these fake screenplays.

9:42

Of course, as the series goes,

9:45

the guy's lives are sort of falling apart. It's

9:48

everything that we've gone through as comedy

9:50

writers in la we sort of packed into

9:53

this satire about trying to make it

9:55

as a writer in Hollywood. So of course we're doing it

9:57

from I put quotes around

9:59

this where recording from mark shitty

10:02

studio apartment in north North Hollywood,

10:05

where we're all sitting on weight benches and

10:07

looking at a scarface poster.

10:13

You know.

10:13

We have Weird al Is plays, our entertainment

10:15

lawyer on it. We got Tim Robinson. Tim

10:18

Robinson, who's our longtime collaborator,

10:20

plays basically the landlord of the building

10:22

that Mark lives in, and got

10:25

other great people Rob Huebel. It's it's

10:27

been a real blast of real delight. So it's

10:29

only twelve episodes. You can binge the whole thing.

10:31

I think people will really like it.

10:33

Yeah, if you like comedy bang bang like

10:35

I do. You'll you'll really like this. Some

10:37

great guest spots and it's just really

10:40

very funny.

10:41

Thank you, thank you. Yeah, So you

10:43

know, I would I would, Uh, I

10:45

would like to say that I'm actually proud

10:48

of something for the first time maybe maybe in

10:50

my life.

10:52

Congratulation.

10:53

Still trying to get that, trying to get that.

10:54

I'm trying to Yeah, we're all chasing that.

10:56

I'm still chasing that high

10:59

of My kid.

11:00

Can't kick a soccer ball one hundred yards yet,

11:02

so I'm a little bit you know. But the cooling

11:04

about kids is they're always like, look look what I could

11:07

do, and you're like it's okay, Like kids

11:09

aren't really that good at like they they

11:12

are always down to be proud of something. So trying

11:15

to channel good to encourage kids does

11:17

that lower the bar. I

11:19

was raised in a home where it was like call

11:21

me up when you're in the league.

11:24

Roh.

11:24

Yeah you couldn't. You couldn't get that.

11:26

You really had to prove yourself. Yeah, they're like a six

11:28

foot hoop, my man, Okay,

11:31

wow, wow, wow, you you

11:33

can dunk kind of six foot hoop. Well you can jump

11:36

over a six foot hoop. I'm an adult man.

11:39

Yeah, Greg, you were to me you were last

11:41

on January twenty first of

11:43

twenty twenty, so yeah, okay,

11:46

time travel man. Yeah,

11:48

we were just saying that those January

11:50

twenty first of twenty twenty. Have I been on two times?

11:52

Man? But I do you guys have this

11:55

with the sort of like pandemic, just like black

11:57

hole where you're not sure what you did or who

11:59

you were of course all the time. Yeah,

12:02

without a pandemic. Yes, yeah,

12:05

it's just kind of Wednesday for me, but I

12:08

I yeah, okay, January of

12:10

twenty twenty. Wow, I think Kobe

12:12

Bryant was still alive. That

12:15

can't so many people were still

12:17

alive. Yeah, he died on the twenty six because

12:19

we were up there for sketch Fest.

12:21

I remember whoa right

12:24

and then or not up there, but anyway, we were

12:26

up in the Bay I remember for sketch Fest. Anyway, all that

12:28

to say, it's been too long. It's been

12:31

too long, but thanks for having me.

12:32

It's been too long, too long

12:35

his house, I last talk to greet people. All

12:38

right, Well, hopefully we don't curse

12:40

any generational

12:43

great to an early demise, although

12:45

I guess we already.

12:46

You got to stop blaming yourself for that man, you

12:49

blame yourself for Kobe, he blames

12:52

got it.

12:52

I don't blame myself.

12:54

I don't not blame myself.

12:56

You know. Well, it's

12:59

been tough, all right, Greg. We're gonna get

13:01

to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're

13:03

gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're

13:05

talking about. It seems to be genuinely

13:07

up in the air if Trump's going to like

13:10

just not show up to the debate on.

13:13

The money, if anyone's taking

13:15

money, I might bet him not showing

13:18

up. But I don't know.

13:19

Yeah, no, like people there's

13:22

you know, production companies are like so

13:25

wait do we what do we? You

13:27

just like do it anyways? And then

13:29

he just might not show up, Like what's what's

13:31

happening? Like, is there is there a Vegas odds

13:34

for that?

13:34

I wonder you

13:36

take for

13:38

that? We should check. There should be. I'd

13:41

probably not. I'd be more comfortable betting

13:43

on that than like sports, but I

13:46

guess it's But also Trump, I think as much

13:48

as one of the most predictable humans ever,

13:50

so it's not exactly the science I think

13:53

I think he shows. I would

13:55

love if he shows because based on what his

13:57

debate prep is, I have to see this in action.

13:59

I have to see what this guy's going to do.

14:01

He hasn't talked to anybody who is

14:04

like left of Fox

14:07

News in just like I think,

14:10

both in his private life and just

14:13

generally since I don't know,

14:15

maybe twenty twenty, maybe since the last

14:17

episode we had, I don't think he

14:19

lets it in.

14:20

I wonder if that like the best strategy there too

14:22

for Biden is is really just too

14:25

and I wish they would do this more. When Trump

14:27

talks is just go, you

14:30

know, he rambles on and says whatever, and then I

14:32

hope Biden can have the wherewithal

14:35

to just be like I'm sorry, what

14:37

what you know? Or

14:39

we had talked about this in twenty sixteen, like I wish

14:42

somebody would just be like, hey, I'm sorry, but bro,

14:45

he smells so bad, like there's

14:47

a smell up here that I'm I just

14:50

like Roy, I don't know. That's why it's funny too,

14:53

Like that's the kind of shit Trump would do. And he's like lock

14:55

at little Mark or the way he holds the water bottle

14:57

and it was like, oh shit, but it's

14:59

almost like are you like, yo, are

15:01

you okay? No? Like for real? If Trump,

15:03

if Biden? Really this

15:06

is where I always thought Biden should hire some comedy

15:08

writers to go in and just be like,

15:10

hey, let's pick a couple of moments and then let's

15:13

let's get an acting teacher in here to help

15:15

you translate the moment that Trump

15:17

shit his pants and just continue

15:19

to play that ready entire thing. Yeah

15:22

yeah, yeah, but anyway, Yeah,

15:24

since twenty twenty, I've kind of come around on Trump guys.

15:26

So you know, I

15:29

think my man shows up because he is brave.

15:32

He doesn't run from anything.

15:35

No surrender. And that

15:37

T shirt says the T shirt

15:39

of a picture of him surrendering. Oh

15:42

but yeah, that's that's our motto here

15:45

in this house. We believe no surrender

15:47

for Donald Trump. So squid game, but

15:49

America is happening apparently

15:51

at Netflix, or at least that's the rumor with

15:54

David Fincher.

15:55

Don't do it? What the fuck don't.

15:58

Do David Fincher is like torn between two

16:01

projects that sound like absolute

16:04

shit.

16:05

So I just want to talk about that because it's

16:07

not great decision making. So well, yeah, and I think

16:09

we need.

16:10

To hold Hollywood's hand right now, because

16:12

they are kind of reeling

16:15

like the Avengers kind of went away

16:18

for them. They're they're at the point

16:20

where they're like, what if we just run it back with

16:22

the old Avengers that worked before.

16:24

But before they get to that, they're like having to

16:26

make these decisions about

16:29

like what movies to make, and

16:32

they keep making similar mistakes

16:34

over and overs. So I want to talk about all of that play

16:37

more. But first Greg, we do like

16:39

to ask our guest, what is something from your

16:41

search history that's revealing about who you are?

16:45

This was this was well I'm

16:48

trying to move, so I went

16:50

ahead and took out all of my searches

16:52

for you know, two bedroom charming

16:54

guest house for cheap

16:57

with pool because those clearly

17:00

didn't turn up anything. But I'm dudes,

17:02

I'm so on one right now about just

17:05

like positive thinking. This is like my

17:07

new thing, okay, and not

17:09

like full like I wouldn't say I'm like full

17:11

on like manifest guy, but I

17:14

am like trying to get out

17:16

of the habit of just like sort of spiraling

17:18

about you know, nonsense or

17:21

just you know, playing on rotissory

17:24

things that really aren't very beneficial.

17:27

So I saw this great post.

17:30

I think it was on Open Culture

17:32

a few years ago, which is a great website that's just

17:34

like fun interesting things,

17:36

and it was, and so I googled it

17:38

again the other day because I'm like, oh, this is right, this

17:40

is my jam right now. It was Octavia

17:43

Butler, who was a famous sci fi writer.

17:45

Yeah, her journals and her notes were

17:48

all given to Huntington Library and

17:50

they published an Open Culture. I remember

17:52

had one of her journal pages was just

17:55

like her mantra to herself,

17:58

like basically like her positive thinking like mantra,

18:01

and I love it. And so I was like, so the last

18:03

thing I googled was it was something like Octavia

18:05

Butler journal page Positive

18:08

or something, and uh, it's

18:10

really cool. Actually you can read like she

18:13

she's sort of like laid out exactly

18:15

like what she was going to do with her life, like I'm going to be a

18:17

best selling author, I'm going to sell my books to these

18:19

places. I'm going to be on all the best seller

18:22

New York Times list. And I

18:24

was trying to remember the phrase that she used, which

18:26

was so be it c to it and

18:29

I just loved that. And so it was like, so

18:31

the last thing I googled was what are the Octavia

18:33

Butler journal pages?

18:35

Oh?

18:36

Okay, kind of nice one.

18:37

I got to update get more specific than

18:40

my search how to positive thinking?

18:44

What sounds better? How to

18:46

how too positive? Is that positive?

18:48

Like that?

18:49

Am I positive? Also? Is a is

18:52

a search term that I've used and it comes up with different

18:54

things. It's u yeah, man, the positive

18:57

it's hard sometimes, you know. Yeah.

19:00

The thing the skill that I've had to really develop

19:02

is like when you're like ruminating and

19:04

you start spiraling, is the cycle

19:06

of going like fuck, I don't want to start

19:08

like I hate that I'm thinking about this? Why am I

19:11

thinking about this? It's stressing me out? And then you just keep

19:13

you just keep fucking folding that up for like

19:15

a fucking just just making it worse

19:17

and worse. And then I heard like

19:20

I forget, which like it's like sort

19:22

of one of these like therapist spirituality

19:24

sort of people that I've I've I've listened to before,

19:27

was like the thing that stuck with me most was

19:29

saying you have to sort of break out of that first

19:31

by forgiving yourself for letting

19:34

it come pound, because if you don't address that first,

19:37

you have to disrupt it first by trying to say

19:39

like, that's okay that I'm that I feel

19:42

this way, yeah, and try and stay with that versus

19:44

like, fucking don't feel like this because this is how gonna

19:46

feel like shit? Why you keep feeling like shit? And they'd be like, hey,

19:48

well it's okay that I feel

19:50

like this. Let me just always

19:53

say, dude, I'm I'm like really trying to

19:55

yeah, just even like acknowledge that I'm

19:57

like, oh, yeah, that's okay. That's

20:00

interesting that I've like sort of like it's that

20:02

thing where you're like when you're on low grade stress

20:04

or anxiety, you don't really realize a lot of times

20:07

you're even thinking the things you're thinking. Just trying to like pay

20:09

attention to what I'm thinking about and be like, you

20:11

know, maybe I could like put that here for

20:13

a little bit and focus on something else rather

20:15

than Yeah, it's mindfulness. It's

20:17

that that mindfulness thing, Brock.

20:20

That's what I was thinking about. Yeah, Tara Brock, She's

20:23

she's all about some tera Brock.

20:25

Yeah, there's a Buddhist thing, the

20:28

parable of the two arrows, where

20:30

like the first arrow is the physical pain,

20:33

but then the second arrow is like the stress

20:35

of feeling the first arrow

20:37

and then feeling bad about the pain

20:40

about the first arrow. And that

20:42

is a great description

20:45

of how my anxiety works.

20:47

It's like I mostly wake up with anxiety

20:50

and then I'm like, fuck, why am I feeling anxiety?

20:52

And you know, you have judgment compounding

20:55

on judgment.

20:55

What Jack's not saying is also you

20:57

had a guy shooting arrows at you, Which is that

21:00

is the cause of my anxiety? Yeah? Yeah,

21:02

just a guy hunting of an urban

21:05

an urban hunter stalking you through the streets

21:07

of LA Right, Yeah, she's less

21:10

lethal. Maybe what is

21:12

something you think is underrated? Right? Customer

21:15

service? My guys, Okay, I am

21:17

here's the thing. I've been there. I've worked at

21:19

places where you're just like, I don't know, man, Yeah,

21:22

you're like, yeah, complain,

21:24

I dare you dead already? Totally?

21:26

Yeah. And I was like I was in a place

21:28

the other day and it's like the customer service

21:31

was really great, and I was just like, this

21:33

is this is my new thing. I'm like,

21:35

I will I will sing the praises of

21:37

any business that is is doing

21:40

some good customer service. That's my thing right now.

21:42

Yeah. Well, I mean it's funny because your original thought

21:44

is tied to why customer service is so

21:46

terrible because no one is actually

21:49

paid a living wage in most

21:51

instances totally even allow you

21:53

because most people have to carry all this existential

21:56

fucking stress anyway. Yeah, and on

21:58

top of that, you're gonna go somewhere where you don't know if the people

22:00

are gonna tip you, and they're all in their stress

22:02

and they don't know how to treat people in service jobs and shit

22:05

like that. It's really yeah, it's it's

22:07

not it's not great, but yeah, and.

22:09

It reminds me of the thing we talked about on here,

22:11

Like there's this great mystery about

22:14

why young people's mental health

22:16

is struggling, and people

22:19

like it must be like their phones, right, Like

22:21

it's got to just be that they have the phones.

22:24

And then they're like, oh yeah, and they seem to like have really high

22:26

stress levels about the end of the

22:28

world being caused by their

22:31

parents' generation, like the world

22:33

being left to them being an apocalyptic

22:36

wastelam. But like, I think,

22:39

I think it's just we need to get them off

22:41

probably grass

22:45

while there's still grass, because actually

22:47

we're getting rid of that pretty soon because

22:50

it's not very profitable for us. But yeah,

22:52

I like, I think there's

22:56

an overall understanding like people

22:58

I think are generally smarter than generally

23:01

giving credit for and they're

23:04

like they recognize Okay, I worked for like a

23:06

big massive company that is like bad,

23:09

is not like contributing anything.

23:11

Yeah, And I mean and you hear about all these people

23:13

like soft quitting their jobs during the pandemic and stuff,

23:15

and it's like, yeah, because it

23:17

just like that grind is

23:19

terrible, especially if you like can't

23:22

make it make ends meat at the end of the day.

23:24

Right.

23:24

Yeah, I definitely don't get mad

23:26

at the people who are not providing good

23:29

customer service. I do get upset where it's

23:31

just like I even just like the idea of

23:33

like I'm so hopeful that like people

23:35

can start little small businesses

23:37

and stuff that they actually like and enjoy and can

23:40

make a living at because yeah, working

23:42

at Warby Parker, ain't it. Yeah, that

23:44

feels like what Portland is.

23:46

Like.

23:46

I always see people like the most niche small

23:48

businesses in Portland and I'm like, oh,

23:50

on, you like beer and hot sauce and

23:53

you only do these two things at your store?

23:55

Okay, yeah, man, And I'm doing

23:57

pretty well at it. Yeah, but you

24:00

have to have a beard to work here. Yeah. But

24:02

here it's just impossible because like there, the rents are

24:04

so high for any kind of commercial space. It's like,

24:06

I don't know, does your dad or your mom can

24:08

they give you all the money to start? Yeah? Yeah, And usually

24:11

it is like if you dig one layer deep where it's like,

24:13

oh, you have a cute little pop

24:15

up fashion brand. Yeah,

24:18

then I googled you and your dad produced

24:21

that is twenty four. Oh

24:23

your dad is TJ Max. Yeah,

24:28

Thomas James Max.

24:30

Thomas James Max. Just a couple of corrections

24:32

here. We think capitalism on this show is underrated.

24:35

And in this house, we believe working

24:37

at warby Parker.

24:38

Is it.

24:42

Just in case they went on like sponsored Potters, Yeah,

24:44

yeah, we we think it's it. Don Glasses

24:46

because I had Lasik. Nice dude, COVID

24:50

can reverse lasick. Okay,

24:52

well I think

24:55

that's a true thing. Actually, people

24:58

that got lasick and then got and

25:00

it basically fucked up their lace. Oh

25:02

shit, I.

25:03

Heard you can just like blow really hard and like plug

25:05

your nose or I just like pops back to

25:07

the old way it.

25:08

Used to be your eyelid or your yeah your

25:10

corniery shapes.

25:11

Yeah up, my eyes are fucked

25:13

again. Uh, what is something you think

25:15

is overrated?

25:17

I'm going Tesla right now, y'all? I

25:19

oh, no, you guys trying

25:21

to. I finally like rode in

25:23

a Tesla and really paid attention to the

25:26

feeling of riding in a Tesla car. And

25:28

I gotta say, if you're gonna pay that much money

25:31

for a car, it's got

25:33

to not feel like a weird golf

25:35

cart that doesn't have any smooth

25:37

ride. It sucks. It's a it is not a

25:39

smooth ride. I would much rather be

25:41

in like a nineteen ninety eight like

25:44

buickless Saber if I if I want

25:46

to smooth ride, But those cars suck to

25:48

ride in. I'm saying. I remember

25:51

the first time I got in one, I was so underwhelmed,

25:53

like it was weird. I had

25:55

built up Tesla's in my mind like fucking

25:58

crazy. And I remember someone

26:01

I knew it was, like partner, drove one and like picked

26:03

us up to go somewhere. And first I

26:05

fucking embarrassed myself because I know the

26:07

fucking door handle whrek, Yeah you can't get it. And I was like

26:10

I was like rubbing it. Shit, you

26:12

guys gotta push it and then it comes out. I was

26:14

like all right, And then I was immediately like man, fuck

26:16

this door handle. And then I got in and

26:19

then like everything kind of felt like like

26:21

not substantial. Like when I pulled

26:23

the door thing, I was like, is this like just

26:26

PVC pipe like the rap filed

26:28

in synthetic leather. Everything feels

26:30

very just yeah, not substantial,

26:33

transitory something like they're just you feel

26:36

like, yes, it's fast, and if it

26:38

goes too fast, the car might just kind of like fall apart

26:40

around you, like a cybertruck where the paneling

26:42

will just turn it like into an air fin

26:44

and bend backwards on a way. And I feel like they don't

26:46

even need to talk about those. It's just like, you

26:49

know, if you drive the cyber truck. That's

26:51

my honestly, that's like my favorite

26:53

new Like I was talking about this on the show the other day.

26:55

My new favorite like form of shotenfreude

26:58

is watching the people with their cyber trucks be

27:00

like, I can't the fuck is wrong with my car.

27:03

My steering wheel looks like a little batmobile thing. My

27:05

inssurance company won't ensure it. I

27:08

think it's actually fully worthwhile to

27:11

Like. My new thing with cyber trucks is if I see one,

27:13

I actually turn and point and laugh

27:16

and see and see if I can ever get the person

27:18

to like be like, man, man, we're laughing at Yeah,

27:20

well yeah it is pretty cool.

27:22

U Wow, why are you convulsing?

27:25

I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. And that you

27:27

know, obviously the elon thing is is is

27:29

hard to swallow, and I did.

27:32

There was a time when I was like, yeah, ev is so cool,

27:34

and now I'm just like, give us a train. Somebody,

27:37

give us a train. Somebody give us a fast, cool

27:39

train like they have in Europe or Japan or

27:41

whatever, so that I can go somewhere and

27:44

not have to drive, and also not have my

27:46

car drive me. I don't really want that to you.

27:48

I see your train,

27:50

and I raise you a train tunnel

27:53

that you can.

27:54

Drive in Sea Jack. This is what

27:56

we don't want in this house.

27:58

We believe the Boring Company is

28:00

the future.

28:01

And I just picturing your yard

28:03

with all your missile signs.

28:05

It's so many signs, so many signs,

28:08

and that guy keeps shooting.

28:13

Amazing.

28:13

Well, uh, let's Uh, let's take a quick

28:16

break and we'll come back and we'll talk about

28:18

some news.

28:18

We'll be right back and

28:30

we're back and all

28:33

right.

28:34

So Donald Trump seems

28:37

worried about the debate that

28:40

he agreed to after

28:42

like saying he wasn't going to do a debate.

28:44

He yeah, he said he was

28:46

going to do it. What happed mean the whole thing was,

28:49

these are rules you agreed

28:51

to. It's like they're gonna cut the mics off when

28:53

you're not talking. They're like, yeah, you agreed to that.

28:56

Yeah, the rules as

28:58

you agreed to them.

28:58

They can't I can't bring up I can only have a water

29:01

and paper and pen up there. I can't bring my big

29:04

old books up there and other crap.

29:06

They're like, yeah, yeah, you can't have any

29:08

of that. But yeah. It's like, over

29:10

the last couple of weeks, we've heard increased

29:12

speculation from the right

29:15

about how Joel Biden is

29:17

going to be higher than method Man and Red Man

29:19

on the Blackout album and on Thursday.

29:21

This is going to happen on Thursday night when they're

29:23

scheduled to debate for the first time since

29:26

obviously twenty twenty. The excuses, though, really

29:28

began trickling in over the last week as

29:30

like you know, Trump surrogates and people going out there

29:32

doing the news shows, and Trump himself began

29:34

like lamenting again the rules he agreed

29:37

to or how mean Jake Capper has

29:39

been to him in the past. And Trump has

29:41

good reason, I think, to not be excited about

29:43

sharing the stage because you know, not that

29:45

poll numbers really matter, but every time

29:48

he debates a Democrat, like in twenty sixteen and twenty

29:50

twenty, his numbers dip when people were just like

29:52

that juxtapositions a little odd for

29:55

some people, like this person spoken

29:57

complete sentences and this guy was stalking

29:59

a woman around the stage. And

30:02

while again pulling is the whole game,

30:04

it's just like the last time twenty

30:06

twenty, that first debate with Biden and Trump,

30:09

it just wasn't a good look because Trump came

30:11

off looking like a fucking freak next to

30:13

Joe Biden, who was merely just an

30:15

old man, like standing on RGE

30:18

like he.

30:18

Did when there were like primary debates

30:21

for the Democratic primary like in twenty twenty.

30:24

Biden was not like good, no, he's

30:26

not like a good debater, no, no,

30:29

yeah, no, My question is like who comes

30:31

to these debates going like, you know what, I've

30:34

I've stayed pretty independent up to this point,

30:37

and I'm just going to see what these two gentlemen have

30:39

to say and Trump guys all about it, and I'm

30:41

just going to base it on the issues, you know what.

30:43

I reacht their websites and they seem

30:46

like they have some they have some differences.

30:48

I'm a Democrat, but I don't know, man,

30:50

I just didn't I didn't really see Trump

30:52

do his thing like that before. I'm kind of into it now.

30:54

I'm kind of I've kind of interested

30:57

now, and I think it is like

30:59

disingenuous, right, Like I mean, do you know people that are

31:01

like, I don't know, man, I just don't know if I can hold

31:03

my nose and vote for Biden. And it's like I had

31:05

this, this is a conversation where I'm immediately

31:08

like, Okay, well then I

31:10

just don't. I don't have a lot of patience for it.

31:11

You know.

31:12

It's like it's like turning that

31:14

thing into like a single issue vote

31:16

where you're you know, I'm like, whatever your issue

31:18

with Biden is, I beg you to show

31:21

me like a version that you

31:23

find a better version of your beliefs

31:25

in Trump. Yeah, I mean it's just

31:28

so hard because you're, like, especially with the Biden stuff,

31:30

so many people are contending with the anger

31:32

of how the two party system just like forces

31:35

you to be like, obviously I don't want Trump

31:37

to be president totally. Biden is completely

31:39

unresponsive to anything that like matters

31:42

and what the fuck is this? But again,

31:44

by both parties just trade off being the bad

31:47

guy so then the other one can raise funds and then you

31:49

know they do the merriag around. But it's clear

31:51

Trump is still fucking hooked on

31:53

doing freestyle jazz, talking up

31:55

there, just flowing on some stream

31:57

of consciousness, consciousness, word association

32:00

shit. And on Saturday in Philadelphia,

32:02

I don't know if you saw that like epic rant he had

32:04

about water and the sinks and shit like

32:07

that. A lot of like he's he's

32:09

definitely in his water phase between

32:11

like the batteries and the boats and the

32:13

sharks and like dishwashers,

32:15

which he also period. Yeah, this is this

32:18

is water era, and.

32:20

That's something that like young children go like

32:22

age like three, you go through your water

32:25

period where like water is the coolest thing in the

32:27

world and you have like your little water tables and

32:29

you kept playing.

32:30

With water exactly. He's

32:33

in his water period at the moment. And if

32:35

you this is a lot of people were talking about this, but just to give you

32:37

a taste, like this is how the guy is talking.

32:39

When he's just talking, So try

32:42

and like imagine this on a debate stage.

32:44

No water in your faucets. You ever tried buying a

32:46

new home and you turn on to have restricts in

32:49

there. You want to wash your hair, you

32:51

want to wash your hands. You turn on the

32:53

water and it goes drip, drip

32:56

the soap. You can't get it off your hat. So

32:58

you keep it running for at ten times. We'll get

33:00

you try the worst hair.

33:03

I have beautiful, luxuriant

33:05

hair, luxuriant, and I put

33:08

stuff on. I

33:10

put it in hair.

33:12

I like lots of leather because I like

33:14

it to come out extremely dry, because

33:17

it seems to be slightly thicker that way.

33:20

What anyway, So this is like

33:24

a lot of people like he's rambling, he's

33:26

talking. He's trying to talk about like water

33:29

restrictors and shower heads, like this is

33:31

the thing he's talked about before. But again

33:33

he starts off trying to make some point about

33:36

like what about our water interns into I

33:38

like my hair real drying.

33:42

He's just just freestyle man.

33:44

He is of rifts. He's the king of rifts.

33:46

And think about how.

33:47

Our toilets can't choke down his giant

33:50

ships. It can't be far behind. It's

33:52

just a prediction.

33:53

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking soon.

33:55

We got to be talking toilets. Like again, we're

33:57

in the water phase, so something

33:59

with something, something aquatic will

34:02

turn up. But prior to that

34:04

performance of ranting, he had an interview

34:06

with some right wing blogger and said

34:09

that they're like, uhs, you got this. The guy was asking, like,

34:11

you got this debate coming up? It's pretty intense, and he's

34:13

like, yeah, I'm getting pretty Just listen. This

34:15

is what Trump was saying, like how he's

34:17

fucking preparing for the debate.

34:19

Being interviewed by a guy completely

34:22

bald with a beard. Just in case that wasn't,

34:24

that's probably clear. I probably don't need to Yeah,

34:26

what a.

34:27

Right wing blogger, dude looks like, Yeah, Joe

34:30

Biden at Camp David, as you and I stand here, your

34:32

debate is Thursday with him no

34:34

audience. CNN controls the mics

34:37

Danavash Jake Tapper, how

34:39

do you feel about that matchup?

34:41

Well, it's probably one on three and

34:44

I've been doing this for a long time though, will

34:46

handle that. And people say, how are you preparing?

34:48

I'm preparing by taking questions

34:50

from you and others if you think about it, so,

34:54

but I'm prepared by dealing with you.

34:57

You're tougher than all of them.

34:58

That well, it is a real player to be here.

35:00

Sure, I know you've got a lot of fans waiting. So it's

35:02

welcome you to town, sir, and thank you so much for your time.

35:04

You've been a great friend.

35:05

Thank you very much.

35:06

Chris, appreciate it. Thank you, thank you much for that.

35:08

Guy has like tears in his eye. Yeah, I

35:11

always love you. Yeah,

35:14

he got his name right, But like, yeah,

35:16

Chris, yeah, I'm friend in this

35:19

world.

35:19

Now.

35:20

This is where you know, I think most people become very

35:22

skeptical because if if

35:24

you go off the answer of what he said is debate. Prep

35:27

was like, it's like talking to people like you. I'm

35:29

taking questions. So in a way, that's preparing, isn't

35:31

it. And that sounds like you're not

35:33

preparing at all because you're not going

35:35

to go on the debate stage. And if you are

35:38

going on the debate stage and your version

35:41

of preparing is just like completely whiffing

35:43

on softballs from sycophants, and

35:46

that's your preparation for the debate of your

35:48

life. I'm again this this will

35:50

be It'll just be straight up chaos because

35:52

he's obviously going to be getting a ton of questions

35:55

about all his bullshit, like felonies

35:58

to January sixth, asking about

36:00

Egene Carroll, where he may fucking over

36:02

like millions of dollars again by opening his mouth

36:04

to Rico charges, fucking classified

36:06

documents and talking to a

36:09

guy who would never be like I mean, like you know,

36:11

like did you really why did

36:13

you have those classified documents? That's not that's

36:16

not done out. He's not preparing it anyway.

36:18

This is why I think it's going That's why I

36:20

think now we see that there's this like

36:23

reason that's emerging from the right, which

36:25

is coming from a lot of people, including Trump, which

36:27

is Joe Biden is on fucking

36:30

crank and there's no way he can

36:32

debate a guy who's on fucking speed.

36:34

Even though Trump I have Joe Biden is on

36:37

speed. Like I mean, this is my prayers

36:39

that Joe Biden does some speed before this debate, because

36:41

I mean, like, as long as we get Joe Biden

36:44

like talking fast and walking quick,

36:46

I think we win this thing. Like,

36:48

hey, have me that computer monitor, Jack and a

36:51

screwdriver. Yeah, see what's going on?

36:53

So supporto on. I'm kind of fucking amped

36:55

man, Like we put

36:57

Joe Biden, We put Joe Biden on some meth,

36:59

and he will win the debate and he'll

37:01

steal a bunch of copper piping out of thee.

37:06

I took the bike apart, and I

37:08

took the spokes out of the wheels, but he used to hang the

37:10

spokes back.

37:12

Look, Jack, anybody can do this. Yeah.

37:16

It is weird to how Trump alway stages it. Like I

37:18

mean even that clip was like a wrestling like it

37:20

did feel like, well, it's three on one this weekend.

37:23

They were standing in front of the giant American flag

37:25

like doing the standing interviews.

37:27

Yeah, camera, and I'm surprised

37:29

something take the mic and go direct a camera. But

37:34

yeah, Ronnie Jackson aka fucking

37:37

doctor feel Good, the old White House doctor

37:39

who has had everybody pilled up in

37:41

both administrations.

37:42

By the way, also yeah, the Obama administration.

37:45

Yeah. He submitted a letter as a congressman

37:47

said quote, I demand this is to Joe Biden.

37:50

I demand that you submit to a clinically

37:52

validated drug test in order to reassure

37:54

the American people that you are mentally

37:56

fit to serve as president and not relying

37:59

on perform romans enhancing drugs

38:01

to help you with your debate performance command.

38:05

There is either Queen of England. Yeah no. And

38:08

again, like you're saying, Zach, like this is

38:10

this is a guy whose time in the and the White

38:13

House was described as quote a wash

38:15

in speed. Yes, yeah,

38:18

like everything they said apparently this like was staffer's

38:21

popping pills and washing them down with alcohol. In

38:23

large part to Jackson's leadership as chief Medical

38:25

Advisor, common pill requests included medafinil

38:28

adderall, fentanyl, morphine, and

38:30

ketamine, according to a Pentagon report release

38:32

in January, but other unlisted drugs such

38:34

as xan x, were equally easy to come by from the

38:36

White House Medical Unit.

38:37

Of course, it really takes a step

38:39

up at a fentanyl morphine. It's

38:42

like, yeah, wait, what for what the the other

38:44

ones are like, Yeah, that's what I expect the

38:46

what the White House sailor like.

38:51

Fent like get

38:54

those anymore? Right? Yeah, it's interesting.

38:57

I mean we always talk about how his instinct

38:59

is always too accuse the other people of doing

39:01

the thing he's doing. And he seems

39:04

so high when he's up on the stage, like just

39:07

the way he's just rambling from

39:09

one thing to the other and just talking about

39:11

how luxuriant his hair is. Like

39:13

it feels feels like he's on like ecstasy

39:16

or something.

39:16

Yeah, and it just feels like a guy who knows, like

39:19

I gotta get I guess I gotta talk for an hour

39:21

straight. So what I'm

39:23

just gonna talk about whatever the fuck I want.

39:25

Like, you know, he doesn't have to, but he has

39:27

to exactly the only thing that

39:29

fills the the sucking void.

39:32

A good campaign ad for Joe Biden should

39:34

just be taking Trump transcripts

39:37

and having someone read

39:40

back transcripts of Trump

39:42

to potential voters and being

39:44

like, so just a quick thing when

39:46

you hear Trump say, you know, because

39:49

if there's a star in the crowd, you know, their

39:52

cameras on my head, the back of the whole time

39:54

cameras, they're the best. Think about the seats.

39:56

This is a beautiful crowd, and how

39:58

we're going to get the water and then just be like, so what do you think

40:00

about that? What do you mean just

40:03

just get the reaction that should

40:06

be the whole thing. I think it's great. I

40:08

think it's I think it's awesome.

40:10

Man.

40:10

And what was he saying?

40:12

I don't know, man, I fucking love cameras.

40:14

Man, They're like magic. Just don't

40:16

get them wet or near.

40:17

A magnet, you know, exactly charkle

40:20

by that camera.

40:21

I do think though, like

40:24

this is this happens every

40:26

debate where especially the Republicans.

40:29

This seems to be like a piece of

40:31

accepted wisdom among Republicans. So

40:33

you really need to aggressively

40:37

attack expectations and that

40:40

that does tend to work. Like

40:42

That's why I'm just like, is the mainstream media just like

40:44

falling for the same bullshit

40:47

every like that they fall for every time, where

40:49

like Trump's like Biden's one of the great debaters

40:52

of our time and he he killed

40:55

like at the time, I guess he said, like remember

40:57

when Biden debated Paul Ryan and everyone

40:59

was like Biden's gonna get fucking killed, and

41:02

then Biden like did

41:04

fine, held his own against Paul

41:06

Ryan, which in retrospect not that

41:09

impressive. Paul Ryan's a fucking dipshit,

41:11

but that like he did better than

41:13

expectations. So now Trump's like, this guy

41:16

is one of the great debaters of all time and he's gonna be So

41:18

it's gonna be flying on peds up

41:20

there, and then he's gonna show up and like

41:23

have the expectations set where he wants

41:25

them. So I'm a little I'm a little like, I

41:28

don't know, he'll probably show up, Like it would be such

41:30

a bad look for him not to show up, Like, I don't

41:32

know, but he's giving himself, you

41:34

know, like.

41:34

Because this is anything, He's like, well, he's gonna be on drugs.

41:37

I couldn't debate somebody and then he could just be like

41:39

I'm not talking to that speed freak. Yeah

41:42

he won't. He won't take a drug test, and I'm not gonna play

41:44

like you know, it would be.

41:45

A real bad look. It was just like, I

41:47

hope he doesn't show up because that seems like a

41:50

terrible.

41:50

Look is there even like because

41:52

even in this version, right, even if he shows up

41:54

and completely shifs the bed figuratively

41:57

or literally, no one's gonna gonna

41:59

whatever takes it. It's

42:01

gonna be like whatever, you know what I mean, Like no

42:04

one's it's so it's hard

42:06

to know because he's trying to be like I'm not losing

42:08

anybody, you know what I mean, So like what do I have

42:11

to lose if I don't even go up there? But again,

42:13

I know he wants to start wind milling about

42:15

the fucking like like immigrants

42:18

are killing people angle and

42:20

that's gonna be a moment for him to sort of,

42:22

you know, try and press Biden on something

42:24

like that. But I don't know at the end of the day,

42:27

based on like how I don't

42:29

know, just he just seems very like he's just not

42:31

into it. But look, we don't fucking

42:34

know.

42:34

But I feel like maybe the debate

42:38

polls are it

42:40

might be like like a thing with like the pepsi

42:43

taste tests, where you

42:45

know, pepsi would win taste tests when

42:47

it was like a little sip of pepsi

42:50

versus a little sip of coke. But like you

42:52

can't drink a whole glass of

42:54

pepsi without your teeth falling out feeling

42:57

like they're vibrating. Like

42:59

I just feel like you're testing for different things,

43:01

and like the he always

43:04

successfully like makes it horribly

43:07

ugly in any debate he's in,

43:09

Like I never leave the debate

43:11

being like, well he just got his ass kicked,

43:14

you know, it's always so I I

43:16

just feel like some of this is like people

43:19

like wishful thinking that he's not gonna

43:21

show up, that he's going to show up and just like suck.

43:25

I don't like, I feel like it could go the

43:27

other direction pretty easily. Not

43:30

that that like this is just also me,

43:32

like this is the same comportment I take

43:34

into my sports fandom where I'm like,

43:37

we suck. We're gonna lose by forty

43:39

points. But it does feel like

43:42

I don't know, it could go badly

43:45

for Biden. Oh, given what

43:47

we've seen of him speaking temporaneous

43:49

yeah.

43:49

Over the mistake. They're both

43:52

No, I don't know who a favorite is going

43:54

into this, because just as easily

43:56

Trump can just suck all the fucking air out

43:58

of the room and just keep He's like these

44:01

same things, and then Biden's

44:03

probably like I need a nap. Who knows, like what

44:05

the fuck's gonna happen, but he asks

44:08

for an actual nap. Oh God,

44:11

Okay, he's like time out, man, time

44:14

out, and we get like I need

44:16

a nap and a caramel. Yeah, yeah,

44:18

yeah, I mean maybe Biden or maybe

44:21

Biden. Maybe the best plan for Biden is

44:23

uh yeah, let's let Trump

44:25

talk more and and

44:28

and also get on some performance enhancing

44:30

drugs that make him like super ripped.

44:32

I mean, like, can we get him on HGH at

44:34

this point or something so that, yeah, it looks

44:37

like the best self. How quickly

44:39

can he look like a light heavyweight MMA

44:42

fighter physically? Yeah, And I'm

44:44

sure, I'm sure Joe Rogan's got some tips,

44:46

So like, let's let's get let's get him

44:48

just shredded for this one. He get his organs

44:51

to grow, and that would.

44:52

Actually be the one thing that Trump

44:54

would respond to because as we know,

44:57

like he terrified.

44:59

Oh my god, the guy came out there with arms

45:01

like Christmas hams. He's wearing a smaller

45:03

suit jacket, isn't he They're

45:06

bulging out of the sleeves. No, no, no, no,

45:08

no, no, he looks like right out of Central

45:10

Casting, trumpel of Central Casting. Yeah,

45:12

he does. You get a super strong president. Trump's

45:15

gonna like it. And these guys, they have

45:17

big muscles.

45:18

Maybe not so much down here in here, but being up

45:20

here up here.

45:22

Yeah, huge brains.

45:24

All right, let's take a quick break.

45:26

We'll come back, we'll talk a little pop

45:28

culture. We'll be right back.

45:40

And we're back. We're back.

45:43

And so back in April last year, there were rumors

45:45

that Netflix was working on American remake of

45:47

Squig Game, a show that

45:49

is first of all, very much still going

45:51

on, like they only had one season

45:53

and like ended on a cliffhanger, and they

45:57

were reportedly trying to recruit David Fincher

46:00

to make it. The Finchman is

46:03

you know, heavily involved in Netflix

46:05

as like their chosen creative. The directed

46:08

the pilot for a House of Cards,

46:11

and you know, has done a bunch

46:13

of good, good work

46:15

for them. However, Fincher

46:18

has also been working on a Chinatown

46:21

prequel series with the film's

46:23

original screenwriter, Robert Town, and

46:25

Robert Town just revealed that all the episodes

46:27

are written and ready to go. And the

46:30

question is now, like, is Fincher putting

46:32

that project on the back burner, that

46:35

project, which we're assuming is called Chinatown

46:37

Babies? Is he backburnering that

46:39

to focus on squid Game? And

46:42

I just wanted to stop here for a moment to

46:45

just ask the question, have either

46:48

of these ideas ever worked? An

46:50

American remake of an already

46:53

great, huge hit

46:55

foreign film like

46:58

let the Right One In Do, Like at

47:00

was a great movie and they were like, well, we better remake

47:03

that as an American one. And it was like

47:05

everyone's like, no, no, no, we already saw the good one.

47:07

We don't, we don't need to see that. Get

47:09

the fuck out of here, Old Boy again,

47:12

Like everybody had already seen it, so like

47:14

why why remake it?

47:16

Those are the closest

47:19

thing, but not everybody?

47:20

Yeah, yeah, I agree, Like there have

47:22

been there have been American

47:25

remakes of things, but like not

47:27

in the era when like everybody

47:30

had already seen the first one, right,

47:32

you know, and

47:34

this is the one, this is this is the

47:37

property the project that like

47:39

has been seen by more

47:42

way more people than like Old Boy, you

47:44

know, like this has been seen by so many

47:47

people. Squid Game was like a massive

47:49

hit. It like made them almost a billion dollars

47:51

Netflix just that show alone, So

47:55

it doesn't make any sense that

47:57

they would do an American version of a Squid Game.

48:00

Question is have they ever has it ever

48:02

been the case that a prestige

48:05

American director has signed

48:07

on to a reality show

48:10

remake and been successful.

48:12

I just don't Did they just send an email to the

48:15

wrong David Fincher and he's like, yeah, I'd love to do

48:17

it, and they're like he's in what And

48:19

it's like that, so this isn't the So they

48:21

have.

48:21

Made the reality show remake and they're

48:24

bringing that back for another season and

48:26

that one does not involve David Fincher.

48:28

And this is was has anyone ever

48:31

hired a giant director? Like what? I

48:33

just don't understand why David Fincher.

48:35

I guess it was my question. Yeah, it's

48:38

like it just needs more film, It needs

48:40

more it needs to feel like cinema

48:43

more.

48:43

Yeah, I guess that's their feeling.

48:45

But like that's what was cool about the original

48:48

Squid Game was that it felt very

48:50

cinematic, Like especially the first like half

48:52

of the season, I thought it was great, Like, so what it

48:56

I don't know that you can really improve

48:58

that much on Squid Game by like remaking

49:01

Squid Game. It's purely

49:03

for people who don't like reading, that's

49:05

it, but also too, like I

49:08

don't know if people would be as receptive to like

49:10

the critiques of like capitalism and

49:12

like debt and exploitation if

49:14

it was presented in this American way,

49:17

like we love capitalism too much

49:20

and.

49:20

No, but it'd be like preachy, you

49:22

know what I mean. But but from from

49:25

it coming from South Korea, like Americans,

49:27

I feel audience was like, whoa dude, this

49:29

is fucking crazy and different

49:31

this southern world.

49:32

Damn like mirrors mine there, end

49:34

of life healthcare can bankrupt them

49:37

over there.

49:37

Damn dude, that sucks.

49:39

Wow, just like not paying attention

49:42

to what's happening in America.

49:45

I can see why they would squid this game.

49:48

Dude. Yeah. I remember reading something about

49:50

how like Monopoly, you know, like of

49:52

course Americans love to play Monopoly because

49:54

they're like, I just bank it like a monopoly

49:56

was created by like two French socialists

49:59

to war about the dangers of capitalism.

50:01

Yes, yeah, and it's just like it

50:04

like yeah, we're of course we're gonna take it completely

50:06

wrong. We're gonna like who gets to win the squid

50:08

game and become the new hyper capitalist

50:10

at the end or something like.

50:12

Yes, it was like a warning Tale game

50:14

and Parker Brothers or whatever.

50:16

The company took it and was like, but

50:19

you know what's fun is actually were

50:21

forming over and making

50:23

people pay you.

50:25

You gotta build it. You gotta build houses. Man,

50:27

what are you doing?

50:28

No?

50:28

No, no, just buy up the property and the

50:31

tax.

50:31

Yeah, but I also want to just talk about what's

50:34

behind door number two, like the project

50:36

that he was supposedly already working on, a

50:39

prequel, a prequel

50:42

to Chinatown.

50:43

Like I really feel like Congress

50:46

needs to pass legislation.

50:48

Like we we just talked about how furios so we

50:50

I haven't seen Furios, but people

50:53

like, some people liked it, some people didn't. It didn't

50:55

do as well, I think

50:57

because it was a fucking prequel, and like

51:00

people just aren't as interested

51:02

in prequels like this keeps happening,

51:04

like the Star Wars films. People were like, yeah,

51:06

no, it was good and like it made money, but it didn't make

51:08

as much money as people were hoping it would

51:11

because it was a fucking prequel and we know what was gonna happen.

51:13

Fantastic beasts. You notice how the Harry

51:15

Potter franchise just like died

51:18

a very public death.

51:19

Yes, JK.

51:20

Rollings politics are super problematic,

51:22

but like nobody was going to see those movies because

51:25

they made a fucking prequel to the

51:27

franchise, The Hobbit like did

51:30

fine, it didn't do as well.

51:32

As it could have.

51:32

Yeah, because those prequel do not eclipse

51:35

the original. The King's Man, the Hunger

51:37

Games just had this happen to them where they tried

51:39

to do a prequel. It's just like it

51:41

always seems to be a slightly diminished

51:44

version of the thing that people

51:47

liked in the first place, and you always have

51:49

this sense like the critics are like, I mean,

51:52

it should be good, like all

51:54

the ingredients are there, and just every

51:56

fucking time it like underdelivers on

51:59

both like box office and like execution,

52:02

because it's just, I

52:04

don't know, it just dramatically

52:07

doesn't work for all the obvious reasons that people

52:09

have been pointing out since, like Star Wars

52:12

failed, and in the case

52:14

of Chinatown, like the entire

52:17

met Like the whole point of that

52:19

is that you get this like glimpse of the unfathomable,

52:23

like depths of evil and darkness

52:25

behind the city of

52:28

Los Angeles, this supposedly sunny city.

52:30

You see this like horrifying dark

52:33

underbelly, and you glimpse it and

52:35

then they're like, forget it, jackets

52:38

Chinatown, and like that's the idea,

52:40

is like you just got a glimpse and then it's over

52:42

and you're just like nothing.

52:44

More to be like

52:47

forget it, Jacket's all gonna be Chinatown.

52:50

It's like actually

52:53

the origins, you know, it's

52:56

just like the whole

52:58

thing like it it's just so

53:00

counter to well, it's just great.

53:03

Yeah, it's just the it's like really offensive

53:06

way of developing shit, which is kind

53:08

of like, dude, Chinatown. People know

53:11

about it, but what if we completely

53:13

fuck it up? But we just use

53:15

the name to try and get some eyeballs on it

53:18

and just reiterate on all this shit. And

53:20

it's just like it's like it's like a similar

53:23

way. How Like there's some musicians who have

53:25

like this one thing they do and they don't

53:27

really evolve much. Some some artists

53:29

are able to like have careers off, and other people like, man,

53:31

all their songs are just like the same fucking song. Yeah,

53:34

and she just dies out because it's not interesting,

53:36

Like people want something different and new

53:39

and yeah, like we live in a town where people

53:41

are fucking dying to show

53:44

like new stories, tell new stories

53:46

in new, different ways that are so fucking

53:48

interesting and not coming from this like weird

53:51

monolithic way of like looking at the industry

53:54

and it's pay Chinatown.

53:58

Yeah yeah, people will be that,

54:01

well it's a prequel, like so it's like before

54:03

Roman Polanski was even accused of all

54:05

these things, so like, you know, it's so funny.

54:07

I'm not even talking about a fucking like

54:09

make your sequels. Like at least that is

54:12

a new story that like can go in

54:14

a weird direction, like the characters can die,

54:17

like that's a thing, like there's

54:19

still some question, there's still some mystery,

54:22

right.

54:22

And yeah, no, it's tension when you're like this guy

54:25

can't die because he's in the next seven

54:27

films. Maybe if they do like the

54:29

Fargo type treatment with it, which is

54:31

like give some creator like absolute

54:34

unilateral like decision making

54:36

of like taking the like seed of you

54:38

know, like I like totally I like that, but

54:41

I guess I don't even think it's also like the TV

54:43

shows being like any kind of like it has

54:46

not connection and that's about

54:48

it, you know, it's not starting.

54:49

Like I think a lot of the reasons that they do

54:51

a prequel is because they're like, well, how do

54:53

we get the same character but younger and

54:56

hotter. Right, you know the character is what

54:58

people like, Let's get him young

55:00

and.

55:00

Hot Chalomet playing

55:03

Jake? Yeah, could you imagine

55:05

or like what I mean we did it with the Irishman? What if

55:08

we just got Jack in here and just did some he's

55:11

moving a little slow man. Well. I did

55:14

read something recently. I thought it was interesting about this whole

55:16

thing was about why why is

55:18

it? Because I guess they did a poll of like no one

55:21

wants no people want

55:23

new movies. There's like a huge like sentiment

55:25

among moviegoers like we don't want

55:27

franchise stuff anymore. We don't want like

55:30

we just want some new stuff. And the

55:32

article is talking about how this is all born

55:35

out of like development executives

55:37

being like what IP do we own

55:39

and what IP can we find that then we

55:42

bring to the table and say, guys, you know

55:44

what we should do? Reboot

55:46

the Hannah Barbera Library. And then the

55:49

executive feels like essentially they created

55:51

that. So you have all these executive feeling

55:53

like, yeah, I brought up Hannah

55:56

barbar I brought up Scooby Doo at the table

55:58

and everybody knows that and likes it, and

56:00

so now I get to act like I created

56:02

Scooby Doo. Yeah, what about

56:04

Chinatown but instead of Jake, it's

56:07

Muttley from Hanna Barbara. Now that's

56:09

actually I would watch that would somehow

56:12

just that just be a little more absurd?

56:15

Yeah, So I don't know, it's

56:17

seems like a like. I also really like David

56:19

Fincher as a filmmaker in most

56:21

cases, and like would love to see him continue

56:24

to do cool things. And it sounds like our

56:26

two options are just Hollywood

56:29

bullshit. That yeah, feels feels

56:32

like the sort of shit that is just like

56:34

dreamed up in a like

56:37

it exists because it makes

56:39

sense in a boardroom setting and nowhere else.

56:41

What about Chinatown? But Chinatown?

56:44

Like do do like the squid game thing spin

56:47

off reality show of Chinatown where

56:49

contestants compete to develop

56:53

the waterworks of la in

56:55

the gritty backdrop of a city

56:57

with immorals. Yeah, and then

57:00

we get Fincher involved. Yeah, now

57:03

we're talking. Or just ask

57:05

David Fincher what the fuck he wants to make? You know

57:07

what I mean?

57:08

Right?

57:08

Like? Or is he or is he the fucking has Like,

57:10

dude, I would love to do Chinatown prequel

57:13

like a TV show version. You're like, oh my god,

57:15

dude, what, Yeah, you don't

57:17

have like another seven that you can Like.

57:22

They already asked him what he wanted to make, and he made a black

57:24

and white movie called.

57:27

So then maybe again, Like

57:29

we've seen fucking just there,

57:31

there's again. There's an entire generation of

57:33

filmmakers, writers, people who have

57:36

all kinds of wacky ideas that end

57:38

up in really cool things can

57:40

talk to them. Yeah, that

57:42

end up on TikTok and that's why. But

57:45

this is honestly, you know, this is like the same. It's

57:47

this mentality that's driving like the embracing

57:50

of AI because you have a bunch of scared

57:52

people in C suites who are supposed to be decision

57:55

makers and take risks, but they would rather

57:57

retreat to the comfort of something predictable

58:00

or whatever, and because their sort of

58:02

perspective on what is creative or original

58:05

or acceptable is completely different, like

58:07

oh, yeah, man, this AI fucking thing could

58:09

be cool, and oh yeah, you'd

58:11

be cool. Yeah, let's reboot this thing that everybody

58:13

has seen seven hundred fucking times. It's

58:16

just not it. Yeah yeah,

58:18

well yeah, yeah, well comeing

58:22

to you. There you go.

58:23

You know, I know of some screenplays

58:26

that people should be checking out over

58:29

on the show called Get It to Dutch. There it is,

58:31

Yeah, greg Hess, thank

58:33

you so much for joining us. Where can people

58:36

find you? Follow you, hear you all that good stuff.

58:38

It's always a pleasure. And you can

58:40

find me on the socials at

58:42

hey greg Hess, and yeah,

58:45

go find Get It to Dutch on any anything

58:48

you listen to and uh and Mega

58:50

as well. But would love for people to listen

58:52

to some put some screenplays in your

58:55

ears. It's like going to the movies with your eyes closed.

58:57

There.

58:57

Wow, and these are and these aren't just you're not doing like

58:59

re like a prequel to ET or some shit.

59:02

The first movie out of the Gate is our attempt

59:05

to write a Lord of the Rings like a

59:07

movie and immediately

59:10

goes off the rails. So if yeah,

59:13

there's an erotic thriller in there, definitely

59:15

there's our there's a nod to

59:18

Garden State as I try to write my generational

59:21

my movie of my generation, which is the

59:24

Elder Millennial, and so

59:26

I think, yeah, I think folks will enjoy it, so check it

59:28

out. And even in that version, we're all listening to

59:30

the Garden State soundtrack, and that's

59:33

a big that's a big fight that we have because I wanted

59:35

to be all Arcade Fire and the guys are like kind

59:37

of like, guys, I'm two years younger than

59:39

you. ArKade Fire was my Garden

59:41

State soundtrack. You were into the Shins.

59:44

I was more into ArKade Fire by that time.

59:47

Amazing. Is there a work a media that you've

59:49

been enjoying?

59:50

Oh boy, the work of media. Well, I'll

59:52

say one high brow thing. I loved

59:54

Ripley speaking of cool black and white

59:56

stuff happening on Netflix. Man,

59:59

what a fantastic shot movie

1:00:01

or series and written

1:00:04

a piece of work. But you know what, I've just been

1:00:06

watching those new Jimmy Glick clips online

1:00:09

and got to say, Martin Short still

1:00:11

got it. So one of the funniest people alive. And

1:00:13

I will watch Jimmy Glick interview

1:00:16

celebrities and make them laugh all day long.

1:00:18

Still think it. It's one hundred percent

1:00:21

success rate over here.

1:00:22

You'll got it.

1:00:23

In this house, we stand click, we

1:00:25

stand click.

1:00:26

And that's something that is agreed to on

1:00:29

my front yard signs and across the political

1:00:31

spectrum in this house. That's right,

1:00:33

Dan click miles. Where

1:00:35

can people find yous their work and media you've been enjoying?

1:00:38

Ah?

1:00:39

Man, you can find me wherever they

1:00:41

have the symbol, Twitter, Instagram and the like

1:00:43

at Miles of Gray. Can find Jack and I on

1:00:46

the basketball podcast Miles and Jacket

1:00:48

Mad Boosties. Miles and Jack

1:00:50

got mad Boosties. I know, I say that very fast.

1:00:52

That's the name of it. And I'm also talking about

1:00:54

ninety day Fiance on four to twenty

1:00:57

day Fiance some

1:01:00

things I like, Oh I did

1:01:02

hold on, it's this video. Someone

1:01:05

made an animated like

1:01:08

clip making fun of people who

1:01:10

buy cyber trucks, and

1:01:12

it's a pretty good cartoon. Let me just let

1:01:14

me just play a little bit of it. I saw it. It's

1:01:18

on Twitter at at

1:01:21

Dan Harumi, I think is a person who

1:01:23

originally uploaded this, and let

1:01:25

me just have this play.

1:01:28

WHOA, you got a cyber truck?

1:01:30

Pretty sweet, right?

1:01:32

How could you afford this?

1:01:34

I had to take out a pretty big loan. But pretty

1:01:36

soon the dollar is going to collapse anyway, so this

1:01:39

thing will be practically free. But

1:01:42

if the dollar collapses, how are

1:01:44

you going to pay back the loan? You

1:01:47

got to think about it as an investment. Pretty

1:01:49

soon this is going to have full self drive,

1:01:51

so I'll be able to rent it out as a robotaxi.

1:01:54

I'll rent out my car while I sleep. It's

1:01:56

passive income and anyway,

1:01:59

pretty soon jobs will be automated with AI, so

1:02:02

most people will be unemployed.

1:02:04

But if nobody has money, who's

1:02:07

gonna pay for your robotaxi.

1:02:09

That doesn't matter, because if society

1:02:11

collapses, you're gonna need a big, strong truck

1:02:14

like this to protect yourself from the riots. You

1:02:16

can withstand bullets, or at least you

1:02:19

know, part of it can.

1:02:21

Can I try it out?

1:02:23

No, the battery is dead. I can actually

1:02:26

have enough to buy the Tesla wall connector thing.

1:02:29

I kind of assumed it would just come with a truck,

1:02:32

so.

1:02:32

You didn't get the charger. I'm

1:02:35

going to.

1:02:36

I just need the price of bitcoin

1:02:38

to go up.

1:02:42

I just love that logic. Well,

1:02:44

pretty soon a's be a ROBOTAXI.

1:02:45

I feel like that conversation has literally

1:02:48

happened.

1:02:49

That's happening right outside all of our houses

1:02:51

here right now. Yeah.

1:02:52

Yeah. You can find me

1:02:55

on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

1:02:57

A tweet I've been enjoying from Rachel a tormino.

1:03:00

We did wow, said the two year old neighbor boy

1:03:02

petting one of our kats for the first time. There

1:03:04

are bones in here. Take

1:03:07

surprise. You know. You

1:03:09

can find me on Twitter at Jack

1:03:11

Underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter at daily

1:03:14

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1:03:16

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily

1:03:18

zeitgeist dot com where we post our episode

1:03:21

end our foot note for no link off

1:03:23

to the information that we talked about in today's

1:03:25

episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

1:03:28

Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?

1:03:31

Oddly enough, I was just thinking about the band Zero

1:03:33

seven, who is also on the Garden State soundtrack.

1:03:36

But this is a track called mer Surmise

1:03:39

and the artist is called Osvaldo a

1:03:42

os v A l d O. And it

1:03:44

feels like a zero seven like backing track.

1:03:46

There's no lyrics or anything, no vocals on it, but

1:03:49

it just has like that's like easy groover

1:03:51

aspect to it, and the drumming is like a little

1:03:54

bit off, but like in a funky way. So

1:03:56

I think you'll like this. It's called mer Surmise

1:03:59

by Oswaldo.

1:04:01

All right, well, we will link off to that in the footnote.

1:04:03

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