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Well, hello the Internet, and welcome the season

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to episode three

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of the Daily ZEITGEISTEP production of My

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Heart Radio. This is a podcast.

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Okay, I'm just letting you know this is a podcast. But

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what do we do? Okay, we take a deep dive into america

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shared consciousness. I'll give you the full description right

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there. It's Tuesday. Wait, no,

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it's Wednesday, August three. See,

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I'm yesterday. I thought it was October. I'm

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look bear with me one day at a time.

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It's Tuesday, August second, twenty

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fucking twenty two. And you say,

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what day is that? What national holiday are

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we spent celebrating today's National Georgia

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Day. So shout out to Peach Day. You know what I

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meant. You messed up the date. You

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said Tuesday. I'll get a second. Supposed to Wednesday,

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office three. I switched, didn't I switched to August

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third. Second. Damn,

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keep that in again, because we're having

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problems. I don't want I need to let the audience

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see behind the curtain. We are human. It

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is Wednesday, August

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motherfucking three two zero

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two to correct?

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Okay, thank you? What

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is August three? It's National george

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Today? Shout out my great grandmother

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who is from Athens, Georgia. Uh.

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And yeah, anybody anybody else who

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hails from the Peace State. So it's your day.

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Let's see who am I? Well, I

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am none of that. The Miles Great aka the

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Lord of lancersham A k A Hideo NoHo

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uh and the experimental Blazing artists

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your boy Kassama, So thank you so much for

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having me. And who do I have and my guest

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co host seat, Well, it's none other than

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one of the great co pilots in this podcast.

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Biz. You know her as a host, a producer,

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a writer, culture commentator,

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anything that needs good taste. She

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has her hands in. Please welcome Joel

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Monique from

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Joel. I mean he's my intro time. Say

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happy brightday, mommy,

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Happy birthday mom. Yeah, she's going to Vegas.

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We're gonna go see us. Your together for

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us, Yes, with

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all of her kindergarten friends.

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Her friend from kindergartener or not kandergarden.

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Okay, hold on, let me bring in our guests because it sounds like we

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all want to talk about this. Uh.

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That's the way Jackie. Oh. Also

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to usher in Vegas, I was like, hold on, let's open

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up the floor. I want to welcome today's

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guests in our third seed. She is a

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hilarious stand up comedian. You probably know her

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from America's Got Town. Maybe seen her

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on Fallon or The Tonight Show, or maybe

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her new special that's out now called Men

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Applause, which I certainly enjoyed.

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Lee's welcome Jackie,

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fabulous with the JA.

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Let it do not much, not much?

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What's going on, Jackie? Did I hear you say Lancashire?

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Is that? And no? Did you mean like North

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Hollywood? Yeah? That's that's yeah.

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Look, this is me right here. That's where. Oh

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don't, don't, don't be that proud. It's not that. It's

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oh yeah, it's rough over it don't. Yeah,

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it's like New Jersey. That's what I'm compared to.

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It's like the same way, you know, like people look

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at people from the valley, like bridge and tunnel people, and

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I'm like, yeah, that's pass.

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Yeah. I lived on Larl Canyon Boulevard, so

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I was always for some reason there

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you go, the whole North Hollywood gang up in here

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right now. Everybody starts in North

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Hollywood. I feel like I would sit in that

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park on Magnolia and the condem plate where

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where it all went wrong? Just think about your existence.

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If you're lucky, it's first Friday, you know

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what's so wild? And people who listen to the show know that

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park, that Amelia Earhart Park right there. That's

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where my dad told me he was leaving my mom. Oh

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my god. My whole life revolves

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around growth on that park. I remember

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Breaking Neck by Buster Rhymes was playing, and people

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who already listen to show, they already know Mark seven.

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And you still live there. You're like, I'm not gonna leave you. I

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can handle a drown, can't. Yeah, if that's it, if

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that's all you got, yeah, good,

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good money. But Jackie, so

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you have But I was asking you before you have a j D.

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Yes, so you So if we

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get into if I have any legal questions,

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I can posit those to you as well as

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their corporate and it's their federal mean,

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you don't have to have a bar card. Um,

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I'm not a license attorney, so I can

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help you when you have a law degree. You're

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a lawyer. But to be able to

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help you if you get a d U I whatever, you gotta be

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licensed per state and did not take

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the bar in California, no reason.

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I was just lazy and for fear and because

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I moved to California to go to law school and then I

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looped when I was there, and you know, I divorced

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him and then but I finished school. So

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you know, I'm one of those where entertainment

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was kind of an accident. That was bored, that was a

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funny girl at work. But I wasn't funny annoying. I

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was funny, like, hey, you should try because

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I was in Cali, and you know, and if

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anybody sees talent that like you should try

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football thing, you're really good, you know, so

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very encouraging in Hollywood. So I just didn't

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stand up after work for fun. But

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you know, the corporate world, did

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you have like a dream to do comedy

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or you kind of always probably knew you had the gift

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to gab and were quite pursuing it, or how did

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that work? I didn't. I didn't know that you can make

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it. For some reason, every town,

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and my opinion is a small town. It doesn't have to be

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in Minnesota, and I've got to be Wisconsin. I

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was in the Bronx, and every town when you're

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sheltered from the outside world in

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a small town and all we did was watch

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TV. No one in my family was

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an entertainment. My father thought he was the funniest

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one. So I had I had no reference

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of I could be an entertainment. And

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it wasn't until I moved to Cali and

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people were like, you're funny or what TV

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show are you are? You're an actor? And after why

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you like? Why am I keep asking me? That? Let

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means, you know, should I try it? Because I hated everything?

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I tried everything thus far? Right, that

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was a regular job, right, yeah, so I was like why

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not? And I did it with no expectation.

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That's probably why I stuck with it, because it wasn't I

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would I already had my day job, right, right,

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but cal Tech? When cal Tech fired me

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in two thousand and ten, that's when I'm like,

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oh, guess was a full time comic. Now

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there the world is better because I

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was saying, I really like, I think so many people, right,

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we we put so much pressure on ourselves

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to achieve a certain way or to be at a certain

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place said a certain time. And I

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think at the end of the day, right, everybody has

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their own path. Everybody walks. Everybody

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gets to where they're going in their own way. And just

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because you're not going straight A to B, you

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might go A, B, C, D and end up at

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J, but J might be where you want to be. It you

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gotta give yourself to the freedom to

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do that. I love hearing stories like that. Every experience

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is valuable. I have a good example.

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We all know Abvid Elementary, The Biggest,

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the Biggest World. Janelle James,

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the Fellow Comics. She was in New York

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doing stand up and I was in my first

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time seeing her and since the explosion

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of her career, and I said, how do you

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feel like you? And She's like, I don't have

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a whole bunch of goals whatever. When she was on a Kimmel

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he was like, so what's next? You know, So what's next?

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And She's like, I'm letting the universe take me where it wants

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to go. Jimmy and she says

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that to him and then to me, I'm like, girl, are

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you are you okay? Like

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like who you

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are you hydrated? Like you're eating you know, fruit

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and stuff. And she said to me, Jackie,

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all I want at this point is, you know, I want

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a good man, I want, you know, good cocktails

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and good money, and you know I mean,

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and I'm like, okay, that's

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really how she felt, and it clearly is working. She's

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all the pressure she's probably had on ourselves.

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She took it off and and had fun with

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the audition and with the problem, and

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the next thing you know, she's in a head. She is a hit.

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You gotta relax. I just gotta relax the goals a little

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bit. Yeah, absolutely, and just

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like you know, let there again. I feel like I always

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tell people life is like a river, you know what I mean,

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Like it's going to pull you in a direction. But sometimes

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we hit rocks and shipped on our way, and those

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rocks are obstacles, and we're like, sometimes

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we cling to the rocks in the river, these

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obstacles. We don't let go of ship, when

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really you'd be like, just let go, because that's the river

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will keep taking you if you keep yourself

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free. Just stop clinging to ship

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and watch what happens. Why. That's

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why I was in l A so long. I'm like, I can't.

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You can't make it and leave right

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right? Right? You can go right and then you

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go to New York and look at you now, well, jack

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this is fantastic. And you know what before we

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get to know even better, Joel, you're going

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are you? You're so you're taking your mom to this Usher

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concert? And so act I wish

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she's taking me. So what happened

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is she she's friends with

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all of her like kindergarten buddies,

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like they say in touch or whatever, and they're

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like, well, we're turning sixty. What should we do? So the first they went and

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saw Janet Jackson and concert in Ohio,

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and then they're gonna see us Share in Las

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Vegas. And I was like, I want to see I've

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never seen us share. But he was on my bedroom all

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when I was thirteen, and I think it's not fair that

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you go. And I was just like, well, why don't you come on? And

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all my friends want to meet you anyway, because we grew

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up in the same town where she grew up, and I was

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like, I would love to do that. I'm gonna

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go hang out with all these women who dared sixty

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and go see Usher. Hopefully they won't

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be too drunk or belligerent, but get

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ready to see a whole new side, Auntie.

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Get ready?

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Okay, man, you gotta let

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me know how that show is. I can't wait. I

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hear is awesome. I hear is amazing. Already

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skates through like an entire act and ready

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for it on skates

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and Mr Raymond, you don't

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play. I know, I don't know why I expected anything less

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from him, Like I mean, his gliding already

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without skates was next lef okay.

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But here let's talk about just before

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we get to know Jackie even better. I want to let people know what we're

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gonna talk about. We're talking about. First, we're gonna talk about

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the name monkey pox and how that has

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become stupidly politicized

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and the you know, the task of

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trying to change the name monkey pox for various

9:31

problematic reasons I'm sure we can all

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think of. Then we'll also talk about how Donald

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Trump is both siding his

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own endorsements, like he's

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trying to pick two winners. I don't know, I'll explain

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it. It's very uh, it's very childish.

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Then we'll talk about don't you remember those

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campaigns like in the late nineties early two thousands

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that was like you wouldn't steal a car, would

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you? So you shouldn't pirate VHS

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tapes and everybody was like, Okay, watching

9:56

me pirate the funk out of everything burns

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out. Those fucking

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p s a s may have actually

10:03

increased piracy and the Yeah,

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well, we'll get into the psychology of why

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that ship went totally backwards,

10:12

and if we have time, we may have to drag Diane

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Warren. But that's a whole other thing. But

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first, Jackie, we gotta ask our

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guests. What is something from your search

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history that's revealing about who you are? Uh,

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probably probably poor and stuff. Okay,

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me and my fiance every now and then we'll watch

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porn. And I remember the first time

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I got the nerves to be like, do you want to want foreign? Do

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you know to say what he opened to He's like,

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of course, so so I

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said to him. I said to him, I

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want you to pick the category,

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and uh, we were you know, he

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went to went to Google whatever. I'm like, no, Google

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too, you know that's my Google.

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Go go to a porn a website. Yeah. Yeah,

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If I said, here's here's the website, I said,

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now pick two is the category you want us to

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look at? Entertainment? And I'm like,

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you can either go really well, or really horribly.

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So he picked black BBW

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and I was like, so you want to watch us? I

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said, that is how boring are you? You picked?

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So you want to want a couple of looks like you and I? Right,

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right right? Just get the mirror turned the better

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around. I'm like,

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why so that? But revealed that I

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too trusting because I'm also bored

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with it, and he and he went straight for

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let's I want to see a couple like just like you and I

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do things that we probably can't do anymore. Oh

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so the way he was like, this isn't like you and

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I are

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way different, you know,

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but you know my right knee can't do that.

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Girl, you gotta watch Although I saw that

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video you, I saw you talk into the Renaissance

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album. Oh yeah, you know

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what. Over the years I realized that I used

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to be the girl in the club starting the party,

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and I love to dance, and nobody

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nobody dances anymore, nobody goes to the

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club. But clubs boring as hell. So

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I have to remind myself that I can still drop it. I

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can't pick it up as fast, but

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I get I get still dropped. When your

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friend continue into

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the future for sure, what

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something you think is underrated? Being bored?

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I feel like I got kind of caught up in the hustle

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team no sleep, you know. And

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then I would and then I would feel really guilty because

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I'd watched you know, my very very very

12:26

rich peers like Kevin Hart and stuff, and why

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why don't I have a line of you

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know, of leggings out with a protein

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drink and a movie while

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I have a radio show and make another book,

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you know. And I'm like, and then I realized, he's

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mentally ill. That's why he does all that clearly,

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And I'm kid, He's not. He's not mentally ill at all.

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He's he's he's mentally driven in a way

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that I don't relate to. And

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he has his adrenaline and his

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his achievement and setting up

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an empire and for his family. And

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I'm just trying to get my mother to side the house over to

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me without thinking I'm trying to kill her in his sleep. So,

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you know, I realized that different grinds different

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different different grind, different pace, different

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year, different privilege, different hustle,

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you know. So I realized

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that having all these goals and stuff that I've

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had. Sometimes you just gotta let things happen, you

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know, the way they're going to happen. You don't always have to be on the

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hustle, you know, back to the first point.

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Let's let things happen and let the river take you. And

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I think being bores is over is underrated.

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Being bored every now that you gotta just sit your ass

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down. And you know, whether it's

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your job or men or people

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who go from you know, person to person and they never

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take time to be single. I'm like, I'm

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like, you need to be bored, just sit around and just

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chill out. I mean, so, what what

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are what are some lessons you've learned in that boredom,

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in those periods where you've actually given

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yourself the moment to be like, you know what, let me create

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some space here for reflection. The

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pandemic. It forced me to be home because

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I'm somebody, I get more stage time

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than I would imagine most comics in the country.

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Thank God, I'm blessed. If I asked the club like

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and I go up at home club, the seller

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in Manhattan gives me god knows

14:04

how many spots, but I could pay my bills with that

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club fet'll go on the road. So you

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know, sometimes you just have to look back and look

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at what you have and

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and and be in the pandemic. Quiet time made

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me realize I have a family that's getting older,

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and my mother and my aunt they're you know, going

14:19

towards you know, the life. They're in their eighties. Assist

14:21

a sister who's disabled, who will need

14:24

me at some point. Maybe not right now, but you know, some

14:26

point you will. I felt I fell back

14:28

in love with somebody I kept pushing away because

14:30

I felt like I felt like he wasn't my type. And

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as a result, I'm gonna get married again.

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I thought I'd be married three or four times right now, but

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this is number two is enough. And

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so that's what I realized that, oh,

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living a life. I could be a better comic

14:45

if I actually have a life and experience

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stands, go to the grocery store, you

14:49

know, going to run run errands like a human

14:52

being, and I always have some place to

14:54

go. It allowed me to fall in love with my family

14:56

and find the guy and writ

15:00

about having a different life otherwise other

15:02

than just hustle, hustle, hustle. Where's the

15:04

TV show? Where is the road, gig, give

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me, give me, give me, you know, boredom,

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payden give it. Yeah, I gave

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me. It gave me a chance to give some people

15:13

something. Some might say I don't give enough, but I think

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the way I give is through. You know, I

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can afford to contribute to whomever

15:20

names in my immediate household. You

15:22

know, I bought a new car because my family

15:24

car, my mom's car, was kind of dying. So

15:27

now we have a car that we can rely on. Growing

15:29

up, I was a taker and being

15:31

bored, like, oh now I could actually be a little bit of a

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giver. Yeah, you get bored being

15:36

single and Lancasham and all

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you care about it yourself? All

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I care abouts myself. I mean, after while, you're

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like, okay, enough of me. Can I get a boyfriend,

15:46

a cat, you know, a bird to look

15:48

after? And boredom of boredom

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taught me, Hey, having a family doesn't suck. Can

15:52

I just meet someone at the pit fire pizza?

15:55

Right there? I mean, I don't, we don't. We don't gotta

15:57

go together, but can we? How come every now

15:59

and then that right, go to the dispensery,

16:01

go to the movies. After I don't gotta be a girl. But

16:04

we can hang out all easy, easy

16:06

activities and ever, how

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what's your what's your relationship with boredom,

16:11

grindset, mindset? Do you try? And because

16:13

I mean you you have I know YouTube

16:15

be a high achieving person, but I'm always

16:17

curious how you how you balance your time.

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I'm a complicated relationship because I'm thirty and

16:21

I'm not romantically linked and I don't have

16:24

any children. I have a dog that

16:26

I love, you know, and

16:28

so I do have a lot like I

16:30

want to complimenting, like three chips in the next month

16:33

and a half. All of them are Two

16:35

of them are work related, in one is Vegas, where

16:37

I might find work, but

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I also I've been hospitalized for stress

16:43

before and I promised myself I would not do

16:45

that again. So trying

16:47

to find the balance between. You

16:49

know, I like being booked in busy. I like knowing

16:52

I have something to do coming up, but I

16:54

also have responsibilities

16:56

at home and a large friend group

16:58

that kind of functions like family that requires

17:01

attention and time. So I

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try really try for balance.

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You know, they're do enough work. Did I take

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care of me so that I don't have to go to the hospital

17:11

again, did I check out with all

17:13

the people I love? Like, I try to

17:15

be in rotation with all

17:17

of these things that you know, service

17:19

my life as much as possible. But it's I

17:21

don't know if I'm always achieving that goal of good

17:24

balance, but I tried. I realized

17:26

I just came back from I'm in Vegas now

17:28

working. But I spent a week in Los

17:30

Angeles and I, you

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know what, I didn't have anything. I had something

17:35

that was important for me to do out there, but

17:37

nothing pressing, no big meeting, no

17:39

big show. I was just kind of like

17:41

itchy to just leave because

17:44

I had because because I haven't been alone. And

17:46

know what, my my fiance and I are always together.

17:48

Thank god he could travel with me. It was not him.

17:50

I lived in the house that I grew up in, you know, me

17:53

and my mom owned that house now, so I'm

17:55

like, I'm never by myself. So

17:57

I want to take it to l A. I I beg

18:00

my girlfriends, the two closes want to have out there.

18:02

Can I please stay with either one of you? And they

18:04

were like sure, So I crashed.

18:06

I borrowed a car from my manager.

18:08

So I'm like, it felt really good

18:10

to this goals. And when I came back, I told my fance,

18:12

I'm like, thank you so much for knowing I

18:15

just needed to go hang out with my girls. I

18:17

didn't have anything pressing, you

18:19

know, I could resume whatever the hell I did out there,

18:22

but instead, I'm but I'm like, I want to go. I

18:24

love l A. I lived there so long. I know where everything

18:27

is. I hear, I hear, it's more, it's less

18:29

covidy, So let me go now. I

18:31

like him, and he was like, I know every now that

18:33

you've gotta go kick it with you girls. Are

18:36

you sick of me? And that's okay.

18:38

Every now and then you gotta take take trips just

18:40

for you, for you, aly for no reason,

18:43

and people who love you will understand, especially

18:46

when you know you and if you have

18:48

a position in your family or friend group

18:50

where you are naturally looking after people,

18:52

and a lot of people, a lot of us are

18:55

wired naturally to look after each other

18:57

at the expense of our own well being, Like it's

18:59

the first thing that goes out the window. You see

19:01

people like I feel like every person I

19:03

know who gives so much of themselves to others

19:06

and their family, the person to give the least

19:08

to us themselves or it takes a real effort

19:11

to do that, and a lot of people don't even

19:13

know, like have you don't even have the concept like

19:15

what I need for myself? Actually I never

19:17

thought of that. So really important to

19:19

know that about yourself because it's regenerative.

19:22

All right, moving on, Jackie, what some

19:24

of you thing is overrated? You know what? I

19:26

read this and I first thought,

19:28

if I didn't try and edit it to add Tupac,

19:31

M why come out

19:34

swinging who?

19:37

And I think he's not. He wasn't a gift

19:39

to the culture. All the culture

19:41

is mostly mine. He

19:43

was he is, But you know, I'm

19:45

East Coast girl. I'm always gonna be bigg until

19:47

I die, you know. And Tupac,

19:50

to me, he was just so he was

19:52

just so disturbed in ingenious

19:55

ways that I'm like, how much of it was that, how

19:57

much of it was was talent, how much

19:59

was just he was angry because he was you know,

20:02

he understood the world as it was, the hated

20:04

the world, felthy, he didn't have much power,

20:06

he felt hated, misunderstood. So

20:08

all that to me, I like about

20:11

a few songs, I like, I don't really find him to

20:13

be the club. Let's let's go dance Tupac.

20:15

No, you're not. No, No, one's throwing it back

20:17

to Tupac. That's

20:20

just that's that doesn't happen. And it's

20:22

funny growing up in l A, especially

20:24

at the height of the East Coast West Coast beef, I've

20:27

always preferred East Coast

20:30

rap, like the golden era of rap in New

20:32

York is one of is like my favorite genres

20:34

of music. And and that's no, and

20:36

that's no disrespect to the to the West Coast

20:38

scene, because the West Coast scene is, you know, every

20:41

every part of the United States has contributed to

20:43

what we have as hip hop today. But for sure, personally,

20:45

I like a Biggie punchline more

20:47

than like the pros of Tupac, because

20:50

I feel like that's sort of the difference in their like lyrical

20:52

style. And I think for the longest time

20:54

people are like, well, which one is better? And I've always been

20:56

like, they aren't comfortable like they

20:59

are. They would never be in the same cipher,

21:01

like you wouldn't see Tupac try

21:03

and tattle Biggie like that. This is not how that's

21:05

that's not how they engaged with it whenever

21:08

they had an album together a song, and they'll probably

21:10

forced the probably look y'all, y'all

21:12

gotta put our ship together because quaestions. It's

21:14

called West Coast crap. You know.

21:16

They didn't have a natural friendship. They tried to

21:18

but realize we just don't match. I

21:20

came up in the era of the South, got something

21:22

to say. That's where I resented

21:25

on it. I like, I like Tufac

21:27

and Biggie, although both have songs I cannot

21:29

listen to sometimes mais so dirty.

21:31

I was like, oh my god, Yeah, he

21:33

was was very

21:35

weird, but he was a sex symbol. Yeah, you

21:40

like, huh exactly? Said

21:43

what about what? Well? You listen

21:45

to him and they look him lyrics. You're

21:47

like, this is not you gotta be thirty at

21:49

least to listen to this ship. I feel the way about

21:51

Treta. I was like, oh my, oh my

21:53

god, Treta, it's such like you

21:56

can't nowhere near your family, can

21:58

you put Oh? I

22:01

remember I remember I

22:03

had like the like a mini poster

22:06

of the Little Kim hardcore album cover,

22:08

like like on like a translucent

22:10

binder thing, and my mom saw and she's like, what is

22:13

that playboy? I said, no, this is a little

22:15

kid. This is this music mobs

22:17

hardcore. Okay, this is a big Mama

22:19

thing. One of my favorite tracks. You

22:22

know, it's funny back in the day, we back

22:24

into the TLC days when they had condoms

22:27

on their clothing as part of it. I

22:29

had a key chain that had a condom in the glass

22:31

in high school and I came home one day and my mom

22:33

broke the glass to the condom out. I forgot

22:35

all about bad Hill now and

22:38

I was like, so you don't want me to

22:40

Yeah, I don't know, do you. I

22:42

don't know what the mixed mixed signal here,

22:45

but yeah, like on that, don't

22:47

advertise it tips. She has like kind of key

22:49

change out. It was for decoration.

22:51

I had the one you want to use when you're trying to get down right.

22:55

I some glass like great glass in case

22:57

from her, just and

22:59

very interest for the gentleman involved in situation,

23:02

all the all the risk has to take now. But

23:04

you know, wait

23:08

what it was in a glass like it was

23:10

like it was like this,

23:13

it was inside the glass in between Oh

23:16

so yeah, like in a glass case

23:19

like a yeah break in

23:21

case of smashing yeah,

23:24

smash yeah, exactly there

23:26

it is, okay, alright,

23:29

Uh, well we'll take let's take a quick

23:31

break, we'll come back and we'll talk about

23:33

some news after this. And

23:45

we're back, and I just want to

23:47

touch on monkey pox pandemic,

23:50

which potentially could become endemic in

23:52

the United States, but more specifically

23:55

around the naming of monkey

23:57

pox. Back in June, the World

23:59

Health or Organization announced that they

24:01

were going to change the name because a

24:03

group of biologists and many other experts

24:06

issued a public call to do so, saying

24:08

that it builds on existing stigmas

24:11

and connects the outbreak to Africa

24:13

without a clear link. That it's just it's very

24:16

lazy, racist people are going to jump

24:18

to conclusion just generally because of a name

24:20

like this, and they're saying, like,

24:23

also just reinforcing broader

24:25

colonial racist narratives, as many

24:27

people were pointing out in their plea to the World Health

24:29

Organization. And this

24:31

move from scientists about a scientific

24:34

issue clearly got people on the

24:36

right wing media to have a take on it

24:39

because they were suddenly like, wait, what they want

24:41

people to be more sensitive to, uh,

24:43

potentially the people of Africa or

24:45

others that are concerned with the stigma of racism.

24:48

Well, of course Tommy Larry had something

24:50

to say. She just basically was like, why don't they

24:52

focus on figuring out how to

24:54

cure the disease rather than the

24:57

name. It's a waste of time. And then

24:59

you have the Washington Examiner say

25:01

something flippant like this was more like akin

25:03

to like a comedy sketch trying to figure

25:05

out a new name. But this

25:08

isn't just like around semantics.

25:10

They're just like the general stigma a lot

25:12

of health experts have noticed could actually

25:14

prevent people from seeking care because

25:16

of just just the idea of the name and all

25:19

the hoop la around it

25:21

is putting people in a position where they might

25:23

not be taking their health as seriously as

25:25

they should be. And New York City

25:27

they said, hey, World Health Organization,

25:30

y'all need to change the name. Even though they said

25:32

they would be doing this a month ago, they still

25:34

haven't. And LGBTQ groups

25:36

have also said, look, this also

25:39

has to be changed because there's a stigma around the

25:41

virus, and it's also just ramping up a

25:43

lot of blatant homophobia and for

25:45

for no reason. And what's

25:47

what's wild is like the name

25:50

itself is just fundamentally

25:53

misleading. It was only named monkey

25:55

pops because it was discovered in lab

25:57

primates in the late fifties. But

25:59

it's rodents who are the big transmitter

26:02

of the disease. So it's just this like

26:04

old ship from before,

26:06

like I don't know if found in the monkey pox, Fine, let's

26:08

go with this name and that's it. And

26:11

the new outbreaks that we're seeing in Europe and like

26:13

in North America are mostly human to humans,

26:16

so again, what is the point of having

26:18

this name in it? And the other

26:20

part of it too is health experts

26:22

within Africa. They're also kind

26:24

of piste too because they're saying, oh, when this was

26:27

just a localized issue or something

26:29

that wasn't leaving the continent

26:31

of Africa, there was no issue with

26:33

having the name be monkey pocks. It wasn't until

26:36

this is affecting more wealthy nations

26:39

that suddenly there's like, oh, well, I don't know about

26:41

this. If this is the best thing, So

26:43

it's like smirreed in a lot of a lot

26:45

of ship, you know, just just to put

26:47

it very plainly. And the

26:49

whole thing is too, if this was a new disease

26:52

the way the World Health Organization has guidelines.

26:54

They would not they would never actually use

26:56

geographical locations or animals too,

26:59

you know, to describe a disease, because they themselves

27:02

know how damaging that can be. So right

27:04

now we find ourselves in a whole process

27:06

where they're like the World Health organizations

27:09

like, yeah, we're gonna get to it. We're gonna get to it.

27:11

And people are like when, and they're like when

27:13

the next meeting of this bureau like bureaucratic

27:16

body gets together to decide

27:18

on it. And then they even said, we

27:20

don't really even have any suggestions

27:22

yet. It's like what I'm sorry, you're gonna

27:25

do like a Twitter poll? Like

27:28

what what where? Where is? Well?

27:32

I mean where chicken pots come from?

27:34

Who fighting with the chickens? Right? What's the origin

27:36

of chicken pox? Right? Well? And that's the thing

27:38

they say, like because of the pox part, right,

27:41

they're feeling like it's even more diminutive to

27:43

say monkey pox, like it's already making,

27:46

it's already creating in the in the mind of

27:48

somebody who's who may become infected. It's like,

27:50

oh, you have your your child or your reckless

27:53

just like all of the naming conventions, they say,

27:55

are having like multiple issues

27:58

with how people are perceiving things. What about

28:00

the association of monkey

28:02

pock with the LGBTQ community,

28:04

isn't that also a problem? Yeah, you know, precisely.

28:07

And and what they're generally saying is

28:10

especially the messaging around it. As the

28:12

beginning, they're like, if you're if you're a man having

28:15

sex with another man, you need to watch

28:17

out, or that there are all these different guidelines

28:19

that had to be met to get a vaccine, when

28:22

meanwhile, there are plenty of women who are

28:24

sex workers who are also saying

28:26

I'm also at risk too, I also

28:28

need to be able to safeguard myself.

28:30

But because of this like outsized emphasis

28:33

on sort of being like this is something that's just affecting

28:35

men who have sex with men, it was having

28:38

terrible echoes of like the HIV AIDS

28:40

epidemic two works, how many echoes

28:43

and the consistency in the so

28:45

verity with which those echos rose, Like, for

28:47

example, I was reading the other day

28:49

about a guy who said he had a pimple on his

28:51

face. If you don't know, monkey pops

28:54

occasionally, like when it manifestsed it looks like

28:57

a pimple. He went into a

28:59

term college is for something else? Dr

29:02

Caman observed his face left,

29:04

came back in full. Has Matt

29:07

tested him for anything? But

29:09

knew that he was gay because he'd been a patient

29:12

here for a while. And so this kind of like

29:15

sigma the inability for some people to just

29:17

get tested or to get vaccinated

29:20

is this It's exactly if you guys haven't seen the

29:23

quote documentary about the AIDS quote, which

29:25

really does a good job of documenting what it

29:27

was like to get AIDS before

29:29

our country cared. You just see too

29:32

many similarities and it's so weird coming right

29:34

out of COVID house,

29:36

just like why don't we learn anything

29:39

at all? Period? I mean, one woman

29:41

was documenting her case online and she was saying

29:43

that she had to see four doctors and

29:46

when they finally they were like, we'll go see a dermatologist.

29:48

And they were like, oh, we're not dealing with these cases,

29:51

but that is your job. Who

29:54

else we go to be like, hey, is this a pimple or a pox?

29:56

Like, please tell me. I don't have a medical

29:59

degree. And is a scary time, and especially

30:02

if you have things to do that require you not

30:04

being in your house, which a lot of us have to,

30:07

you know, or or I guess, choose to. I

30:10

am confused. It's whether I have to or if I

30:13

want to, you know what I mean. The

30:15

world is still going. The world is

30:17

still going. I don't want to miss out on everything but

30:20

get sick. They're not going to close down, I

30:22

don't think. I think part of the reason why

30:25

the I guess, the East Coast, you

30:27

know, pseudo opened up is because the economy,

30:30

you know, and until it affects the economy, that nothing

30:32

matters. And when COVID shut

30:34

down the world, or at least the country

30:37

they gave us a year, then they're like, all right, you know

30:39

what, it's just bullshit. I

30:41

don't care how you feel. The month. The wheel

30:43

has to turn around and around, so it tell it to become

30:45

the money problem. It's never a

30:48

humanity problem. So it's always

30:50

money first. And that's what's scary, right, because

30:52

with the COVID pandemic, we're having a

30:54

terrible, you know, lapse in our ability

30:57

to properly test and take

30:59

care of people because there's no funding for

31:01

it. Congress didn't. They're like they

31:03

were fighting over money for that, so that's

31:05

gone, and we're dealing with like really

31:08

very narrow budgets to address a

31:10

pandemic, which is why there's barely any testing

31:13

anymore, and people like I don't know, probably

31:15

millions of people who got COVID, I don't know. We're

31:17

not really testing anymore. All the money is

31:19

gonely everyone's driving around in the Lamborghini

31:21

they got right, right, exactly

31:25

any more right. And

31:27

then even with this right, we're looking at another situation

31:30

where because initially people are saying,

31:32

oh, well, this is a marginalized group, we don't need to

31:34

worry about it. But what you're also looking

31:36

at like a lot of the health experts like you can't

31:38

let this ship get out of control when you have the

31:41

ability to to lock this down

31:43

with proper treatments and getting people

31:46

vaccines and things like that, because they're

31:48

a lot of the scientists are saying like if

31:51

this if transmission hops into like the

31:53

rodent community, then we're looking

31:55

at it and like this's it's it's gonna be here,

31:58

and it's that's it. As

32:00

soon as Goott even Irvine gets it, it's going

32:02

to be a problem.

32:05

Until then, it's a minor inconvenience.

32:08

Yeah, right, if if we see uh, like

32:10

a Republican congress person afflicted,

32:12

then maybe we'll know. But until then, that's

32:14

what I'm saying, Like, I think it doesn't. It just

32:16

doesn't square with the philosophy of

32:18

taking care of people in this country because I mean, we let

32:21

over a million people die in this country and that was

32:23

whoever in the country. So now we're talking

32:26

about something that the general perception

32:28

of society is like, well, it's for people who

32:30

aren't me. I can't imagine

32:32

the lack of empathy that would be extended to

32:34

them. All I hear is the perpetuation of racism.

32:37

That's that's all very cynic.

32:39

I'm very cynical. I just know that, you know, black

32:41

women, what we mattered, we've matt over

32:43

the last two and a half weeks, like every

32:50

every November happens February. You

32:52

know, the men still rules. So that's just the way

32:54

it is. Unfortunately. Yeah,

32:56

but again, I think you know, it's and

33:00

portant to keep our eyes on these things, especially

33:02

just help what's slow the World Health

33:04

Organization moves with things like that. They're meanwhile

33:06

saying like this has to be done seriously, when other people

33:08

are saying like, well, can you do this little bit first, because

33:11

we're already dealing with problems from monkey

33:13

pox becoming like a meme with people and not

33:15

actually understanding what's at stake here.

33:18

Okay, let's switch gears really quick to

33:21

Donald Trump. This

33:23

this orange Yeah,

33:26

this orange pop on the on

33:29

our society. Uh, he's always

33:31

Look, he has had a very fucked up relationship with the

33:34

concept of winning. I think we've seen that he

33:36

knows he's not capable of winning ship on the merits,

33:39

so it feeds his like insecure pursuit

33:41

of power. It also makes him feel so

33:43

tiny when he actually

33:45

loses, or even has the perception

33:48

of him losing. And right now, I think Donald

33:50

Trump is in a very interesting spot where

33:52

he's constantly even though he likes to act

33:55

like he's not worried about rhond ascent

33:57

with Rhonda Santis, he's constantly talking

33:59

about rohnd to Santis looking over his shoulder,

34:01

getting mad at Fox News. He got mad

34:03

at Fox News because they talked about

34:05

a poll that said Rhonda Santis was

34:08

much more popular than Trump was in like

34:10

certain parts of the country like Florida. Sure,

34:12

he's their governor. But he was like, I

34:14

guess, you know, I guess they're not on my team

34:16

anymore. And like then they tried to apologize.

34:19

It got very awkward. And also his

34:21

endorsements, when it comes to picking candidates

34:23

for races, they're not always sure

34:26

fire winners, and sometimes you'll see

34:28

if he picked somebody in the poll started

34:30

to slide, He's like, actually, no, I was never working with

34:32

them from the beginning. I don't know them, I never

34:34

heard of them. Goodbye, because my

34:36

record is flawless. And you

34:39

know, he's also recently he went to

34:41

a rally, a fucking Maga rally,

34:43

and he got booed because of who

34:46

he was endorsing for a congressional

34:48

seat. And I just want to play you this pick because

34:51

it's it's just it shows him

34:54

being like, all right, y'all, here's who I'm working

34:56

with the crowd being like boo and

34:59

him being so fuse, and I think it's

35:01

it's a good it's a good glimpse into sort of

35:03

what he's experiencing right now. And

35:05

a highly respected man just endorsed

35:07

by me today, future Congressman

35:10

for the second District, Eli Crane.

35:19

Everyone, He's like, huh,

35:30

you didn't like that. But

35:33

you like me right? Oh God,

35:42

but you like me right? Please?

35:47

I have He's the crazy old

35:49

grandfather you put down in the base of me, Like

35:51

why are we listening to him? Just give him

35:54

snacks and you know, let him watching of Queen's

35:59

Watch the same of episode of King Queen Doesn't

36:02

Know is a crazy old man now, And

36:04

that's what it's.

36:07

I mean, this is and it's funny that you're you

36:09

know, everyone's sort of like what's going

36:11

on, Like does he really run the party

36:14

anymore? Because there seems to be a lot of fractures

36:16

and it's clear that he does still have his

36:18

hold, Like that's that's clear. Yeah.

36:22

And then the RNC, the Republican Party,

36:24

they're also trying to do something where they're like a man, if

36:26

you run again, we're not gonna pay your legal bills. And

36:29

so they're also trying to kind of

36:31

like that was like this like a little blurb that

36:34

came out lout at the end of the last week where people are like, oh

36:36

wait, huh. So maybe they're trying to put some

36:38

pressure on him to make way for someone

36:40

else because they see him as a liability.

36:42

But I think at the end of the day. All he has

36:44

to do is start screaming at people and they'll fall

36:46

in line. But you like me though, right,

36:50

that was the most shook I've ever seen him.

36:52

We know that he is perpetually

36:54

running out of money. Yeah, Like

36:56

everything is kind of just held together by string at

36:59

this point, and so a financial blow

37:01

like the loss of legal

37:03

assistance, with which he needs

37:05

quite a lot, could could

37:08

change the game up. And I'm looking for anything

37:10

to stir the pot up in a different direction for

37:12

him, because it's not going to be like his

37:15

followers, like there's clearly nothing that can be said

37:18

or proven or videotape shown that

37:20

changes their opinion, Like they don't

37:22

care about unless unless he's

37:24

wiping makeup off his face and he reveals

37:26

himself to be black. I don't think people

37:30

even then, I I legitimately think

37:32

they would pivot and be like, this is you

37:35

should want to be

37:37

white. It makes sense, And

37:39

he loves white people. He hated being black. He's

37:41

one of Oh wow,

37:43

okay, so you should work for his campaign. You

37:46

flip that one really easily. I

37:48

know it speaks. It speaks for our

37:50

humanity where I know a few people were like when

37:52

they announced that Ivanka died, and they

37:55

saw the news Ivana

37:57

Elana Alanna's

38:00

Vona the daughter. But if Vanna passed

38:02

away. Everyone you saw the headline Trump died

38:04

drump Day. Everyone's kind of like, oh

38:07

man, I mean sorry, arresting. We're

38:12

also kind of like, how's the wrong one? Right?

38:15

Like, and I'm sorry to that woman, I'm sorry,

38:18

said come back and get this man. That's

38:25

how you feel, and it's shameful.

38:28

We're like, God, were you just did you you know? Did

38:30

you want slip? Damn? It called

38:34

the right one home anyway, So

38:36

he must get stress diarrhea at the mere

38:38

thought of having to pick a winner right now,

38:41

especially in a contested Republican primary.

38:43

And take Missouri's GOP Center primary

38:45

for example, there's it's like a three way race

38:48

kind of. You have Eric Schmidt,

38:50

who is the a G and he's in first place.

38:53

You have Vicky Hartzler who's in second place,

38:55

and she has an endorsement from Josh Holly,

38:57

but also an un endorsement from Trump

39:00

because he was getting real petty. He's the one. Let you know, she

39:02

got an un endorsement. And then you

39:04

have Eric Grayton's in third

39:06

place, who's the disgraced former governor

39:08

of Missouri. And this guy Grayton's

39:11

had an early lead because he's

39:13

pretty magod out and he is.

39:15

But the thing is, he's credibly accused of being

39:17

folent with his wife and child, and

39:19

his response to those allegations did not

39:22

help him at all because he just basically said, Oh,

39:24

she's like an angry woman with a vendetta and

39:26

that's it and I have nothing else to say about

39:28

it. So people were like, goal, Okay, that's

39:31

not very helpful for anything

39:33

or us to see that you're humanity. And

39:35

it also didn't help when he started doubling

39:37

down on putting out like the wildest

39:41

campaign ads. This one we

39:43

got a lot of headlines or you

39:45

know, the coverage at the end of June

39:48

because this is one where he's hunting other

39:50

Republicans with the help of a Navy

39:52

seal team. And this was

39:55

his This is an ad that he fucking

39:57

decided to televise. I'm Eric

39:59

Brayton's Navy seal and today

40:02

we're going rhino hunting. The

40:04

rhino feeds on corruption

40:07

and is marked by the stripes of cowardice.

40:10

Just so you know, a rhino is r I n O Republican

40:12

in name only. That's what MAGA people

40:15

call Republicans that aren't with the whole fascist

40:17

racist takeover. So like, if you're Liz Cheney,

40:20

you a rhino, even though she's pretty

40:23

on board with most of y'all ship, don't not forget

40:25

that part. But anyway, that's what he's talking about.

40:27

So he's going after fake as Republicans.

40:31

So they just go a flash bang in the building,

40:34

dynamic entry, tactical entry

40:36

with these like swap cops, Eric

40:39

Grayton's Graydon's got her joint, get

40:41

a rhino hunting permit. There's no bagging

40:43

limit, no tagging limit, and it doesn't expire

40:46

until we save our country. Uh

40:50

okay, I have thoughts as a film

40:53

critic. Okay, so

40:57

she has notes. Okay, I like this.

41:00

Okay, So first, higher lighting

41:02

guy, it's always important. I know,

41:05

like enough a lot, enough super are Like I have a camera and

41:07

that's enough. It's not enough. People instantly

41:09

tell if it looks cheap and bad and you

41:12

hadn't have to light, all you needed was bounce board, you really could

41:14

have made that work, but you didn't or some or

41:16

some indys on that camera line. So you don't

41:18

have the background all blown out like that. Also,

41:22

also his outfit and his skin was washed

41:24

out with the sand in the background. You should have worn

41:26

a brighter color. I know that you

41:28

don't want to be caught wearing makeups there, but yes,

41:31

yes, your point, Jackie, like maybe a little high

41:33

light here. It's a little bit of blending really

41:36

could have poked your skin pop. My biggest complaints

41:38

though, is you're out here hunting, but you

41:40

entered an empty house and then ended your commercial.

41:43

I don't know what was happening. The

41:45

goal of these guys seemed to be to go

41:48

capture someone, but no operatives

41:50

were shown. Who are you going against?

41:52

This is a regular American home, So now I'm

41:55

terrified as a viewer. You're

41:57

just walking into homes with six shotguns

41:59

deep, but no one's in there. This

42:01

is was this actual swat? Y'all

42:03

know where you going? You got swatted? What happened? And

42:06

you're like a real bad episode of HDTV

42:09

House Hunters or something like

42:13

bitches So

42:18

early guys, Early, that's

42:21

true, though there was it. Nothing

42:24

looks more heroic than kicking

42:26

down a loose, already open door and

42:29

walking into an empty house where there is

42:31

no action, but I think it's a good

42:33

example for how Republicans

42:35

live their lives, like constantly looking

42:37

for this invisible enemy that they're so

42:40

afraid of, like weapons of mass

42:42

destruction. It's kind of like that exactly critical

42:44

race theory, you know what I mean, like ship Like they're

42:46

like you, you don't want to know about this thing, but I

42:49

can't define or properly identify.

42:51

But watch out. They're grooming

42:54

at the you know, drag queen fucking

42:56

library readings as we've seen their cake

42:59

dajore. So the other I just

43:01

wanted, So that's Eric Gryton's or Greaton's,

43:03

however you want to say. The other Eric Eric Schmidt.

43:06

He's the a G. And he's like the most quote

43:08

unquote normal out of them, I guess, just because

43:10

he doesn't have any like outstanding like legal allegations

43:13

against him. But he's abused a ship out

43:15

of his office like as a G, like any

43:17

Republican a G would do, launched

43:20

a ton of culture war lawsuits,

43:22

being like I hate the fact that you have

43:24

to wear a mask or racism

43:27

is actually good and part of America's

43:29

history. The second part is true, but

43:32

that's kind of what he's on so and this leaves

43:34

Trump in this weird position. It was like, well, who

43:36

am I to pick? And do

43:38

I get the guy in first who's nailed on?

43:40

Do I take the guy who's been a reliable ally

43:43

to me? Who and Kim Gilfoyle, my

43:45

son's girlfriend is running his campaign.

43:48

Do I go try and you know, go against

43:50

Josh Holly and the RNC because they picked

43:53

someone else and they're telling me don't go with this other

43:55

guy because he's problematic. Well, I just

43:57

want to read this this description

43:59

of the sas of where Trump landed

44:01

on endorsing. This is from political quote.

44:04

Because the meeting war on, those familiar with what transpired

44:06

say, Trump began to lose patience. At one

44:08

point, it was suggested that he could endorse quote

44:11

Eric and that by doing so, he

44:13

would be supporting both Schmidt and

44:16

Greetings. Okay, it was

44:18

a mad cap exit ramp, but Trump

44:20

went in on the details, asking if the two candidates

44:23

first names were spelled identically, noting that

44:25

it wouldn't work if they weren't. No ship. While

44:27

Trump was intrigued, he also remarked

44:30

that it might be too cute. He asked

44:32

for draft endorsements. To review, one announcing

44:35

his support for Schmidt, the other for Graydon's

44:37

and this is what ended up being announced at

44:39

the end of like I think Monday night early Tuesday

44:42

quote, we need a person who will back

44:44

down, who will not back down to the

44:46

radical left lunatics who are destroying our

44:48

country. I trust the great people of Missouri

44:51

on this one to make up their own minds,

44:53

much as they did when they gave me landslide victories

44:55

in the twenty elections. And

44:58

I'm therefore proud to announce that Eric

45:01

has my complete and total endorsement.

45:04

So he just left it at that, and both

45:06

candidates are saying thank you, President

45:09

Trump. No, yes,

45:12

isn't that a sign of Alzheimer's when you don't

45:14

remember what you did and you come back and do it

45:16

again differently? I

45:18

mean, like that's every time for

45:20

this man. But yeah, this is

45:22

like someone on Twitter was like, this sounds like literally

45:25

something from the show Veep that would happen,

45:27

And it does feel a bit like it's it's

45:29

so absurd, But again, it shows you how thirsty

45:32

people are still for his endorsement, that

45:34

he could literally be like, I endorsed the concept

45:37

of Eric and people are like, yeah, okay, come

45:39

around with that equally

45:42

over here. Think about it. How

45:44

many are how many blatant races have

45:46

there been running for office that

45:49

high profile? You know, he's also a

45:51

celebrity. So racists are like, we need

45:53

to have uh, we need a spokesperson.

45:56

That's that's why he'll always have a

45:58

cabinet or people who well, we

46:00

will follow you anywhere to the grave. Right, we

46:02

don't have anybody. We don't have a spokesperson.

46:05

We're ashamed to say if we do have one, because

46:08

we get you know, told being any ship. They're

46:10

not, but you know they're That's that's

46:12

why when Obama was in augice so long, that's

46:14

why they're like, look, you guys had him. Yeah,

46:17

that's not fair, we didn't have anyone. Now we have

46:19

someone. We didn't have anybody the last

46:21

I don't know presidents.

46:27

So now we're like we had one. They're like, look, you guys

46:29

had a great time. We're gonna go, we're

46:31

gonna go get out Confederate flags and where it's our

46:33

time now. Yeah, you know, And it's

46:35

true and and and Trump does act like

46:38

this sort of avatar for racists who'd

46:40

be like, see, you can be successful and racist,

46:42

because I think the thing you see most of the time is

46:44

people get out of pocket talking ignorant ship,

46:47

and they get they get their card bold, they

46:49

get their show canceled, they lose endorsements,

46:51

yeah you know, or some people actually lose

46:53

their regular job, and someone like Donald Trump

46:56

be like, look where you can get by being a racist

46:58

piece of ship. They need that. He need

47:00

that to keep my need for

47:02

me to be able to rationalize what the funk I'm doing?

47:05

Model? That's the problem. Yea and terrible

47:08

role model. Oh just just to let you know, in that same

47:11

race in Missouri, someone who's like

47:13

in like barely getting any votes is one

47:15

of the that that couple of the mccloss

47:17

keys that were holding their little

47:19

guns at the people marching outside their house during

47:21

the that

47:24

guy went like the machine, he's he's getting absolutely

47:26

washed. So don't worry, opportunity.

47:29

Listen. I know that for a minute they were just really on your

47:31

side for standing your ground. They love that.

47:34

But you have to have come with something anything

47:36

else other than that moment. Office

47:39

what Well, that's that's the funny

47:41

part about how a lot of these people think left and right

47:44

that they're like Hey, remember me from this moment.

47:46

I don't have ship else to say except

47:48

this time I got famous, and I'm not really

47:51

offering much else this side from gesturing

47:53

to a picture of me and my wife holding guns

47:55

and doing that. So it can

47:58

be tough. All right, Let's take a quick we'll

48:00

be right back and we'll talk about why we wouldn't

48:02

steal a car? Would you? And

48:14

we're back. Okay. So I was

48:16

asking at the top of the show, we all

48:19

remember the p s A s that used

48:21

to be on the front of videos or in the movie

48:23

theater that was like you wouldn't steal

48:26

a car? Would your kid? And sort

48:28

of comparing like people using the internet

48:30

to people doing like survival crime

48:33

or some ship like stealing purses or whatever. And

48:35

since then it's become like a meme

48:38

like there's our writer JM

48:40

found like some really cool ship on Etsy

48:42

that's like, uh, like a dude wearing a shirt that

48:44

says you wouldn't steal my virginity?

48:47

It's like, what, that's not even a funny

48:49

shirt, Like you don't want to be walking around with that anyway.

48:52

So somehow the industry, they

48:55

overlooked a big error that these

48:57

ads are being shown to paying custom

49:00

at movie theaters and on DVDs.

49:03

So they were basically wagging their fingers

49:06

at people who were still paying for the product

49:09

that was lime Wire and Napster. Right, They're

49:11

talking about that because that was

49:13

the thing that I know would freak people out there, was

49:15

like that one kid who got sued for using Napster

49:18

and they're like, oh my god, like remember

49:20

doubtload of album again. My

49:22

ex husband was That's how I knew

49:25

about it. Back then. You knew somebody was

49:27

pirrating when you would ask him, so, how many songs do

49:29

you have in your computer? And they're like, oh, well, A hundred

49:31

and twelve thousand. Yeah, it was

49:33

that. It was back then, like that was hid And

49:35

I was like, why it was needed to go to the store to get you blank

49:37

CDs? Yes my god,

49:40

because yeah you got that. I

49:43

get it. You have that new case late

49:45

tape I do for three

49:47

dollars, we can buy I thought I lost

49:49

so many cases a those CDs. Yeah,

49:52

look I was there. I look pirate, pirate,

49:55

pirate family arise as we

49:57

see each other out here. So

49:59

that was the thing they were coming at people who already

50:02

knew what time it was they're like, yeah, I'm paid

50:04

money to see this, I rented this DVD

50:06

or about this DVD. And this wasn't

50:09

the first time, like the industry tried to do this ship

50:11

the first time like this was happening where

50:14

they did this whole thing where they're like home taping is

50:16

killing music because they said people with cassette tapes

50:18

were just ripping songs off the radio and

50:21

that's killing the industry, which also

50:23

became a joke too because that never stopped

50:25

anybody. They're like, oh, this is fantastic

50:28

technology. What watched me hit record on

50:30

this cassette player and get this song I

50:32

want off the radio. But there were a number of these

50:34

antipiracy ads in the early two thousand's,

50:36

like when downloading movies it was like really becoming

50:39

a thing, and some of them were like super

50:41

intense, like showing people like some dude

50:44

in jail like hanging their head and

50:46

be like, oh my god, my life is so

50:48

fun sliding

50:51

jail cell door clicking and

50:55

standing behind the bars. Yeah, just like tears

50:57

coming down your face, like my mom. But

51:00

so the general consensus has been these p

51:03

s a S basically did nothing to deter

51:05

piracy. And someone did a study recently and they

51:07

have found out that these

51:10

that this campaign may have actually caused

51:12

people to pirate even more. And

51:15

you ask why, Well, the first, first

51:18

of all, it is like the quote they say, absurd

51:20

comparisons to like grand theft

51:23

or other offenses basically watered

51:25

down the message, like someone would

51:27

be like, this is not like me stealing a bunch

51:30

of cars or robbing a bank. This is not connecting

51:32

at all. And also

51:35

they also like because of the like these

51:38

anti piracy campaigns, they sort

51:40

of sent the message that everybody's

51:42

doing this and it actually might be normal

51:44

because yeah, you're

51:46

hearing it like they don't vote be one of these people. You're like

51:49

one of who one of these pirates that's out

51:51

here, and you're like, oh, that's

51:53

the thing people do. Okay, I'll look into that. How

51:56

else, how else did you get music back then pay

51:58

for it now? Yeah? Hell no no.

52:01

And this study says quote informing

52:03

directly or indirectly individuals that many people

52:05

pirate is counterproductive and encourages piracy

52:08

by driving the targeted individuals to behave

52:10

Similarly, these messages provide

52:13

to the would be pirates then needed rationalization

52:16

by emphasizing that quote everyone is

52:18

doing it. So also

52:20

this is just from the study, but just looking at these ads,

52:23

like the website in those ads,

52:26

they looked so easy to use, like

52:28

as somebody who had to download ship. They

52:30

were not this clean like it looked like like the website

52:33

in the ad was like feature films, new

52:35

releases, click download, and the probably

52:37

like like yeah

52:39

ship, why wouldn't Like they're like where is this website

52:42

can get? And piracy

52:45

is on the rise. It's been increasing by in

52:48

this last year, and you

52:50

know, I think it's not it shouldn't

52:52

really be a surprise, especially

52:55

in this day and age where the Internet is connecting

52:57

people even more and more. Because I'll tell you this PI

53:00

receipt is the like the target

53:03

like or variety store for like the broke

53:05

kit or broke people because

53:07

the world is at your fingertips. When you can download

53:10

a ship on a torrent, you know what I mean, people have more

53:12

time to People didn't figure it out how to do it

53:14

at home as absolutely

53:17

And I was the same way. I didn't have like money

53:20

to go buy the newest CD, but

53:22

I damn sure no more to get that ship off

53:24

of like bit torrent guess who now

53:26

pulled up to school and I've got Stankonia

53:30

on fucking tape for everybody, and you could buy

53:32

that ship off me for two bucks. I have not heard

53:34

the word torrent and so long. I used to be on the phone with

53:36

my guy teaching me how to download ship.

53:40

He like, click us that was so torr and I'm

53:42

like, what is that right? And

53:44

look, I allegedly was using all these products.

53:47

That's just proof proof

53:52

podcast. There's an entertainment podcast.

53:54

But guess what I do? Have fifty cents get Richard.

53:56

I trying right here. But

53:59

I think it's it's funny, like from my relationship

54:02

to all that. I just remember saying like, hey,

54:04

can I get this CD? My mom would say no, and I said,

54:06

all right, cool, I'm gonna get it off the internet CD.

54:09

And I think it's hard to like really break that cycle

54:12

because we still live in a like hyper consumer

54:14

facing culture where having ship is

54:16

like really matters. So as long as like

54:18

these digital things are out there, I don't know how

54:21

they could ever curb it. But

54:23

you can't, especially with more and more shows being

54:25

developed all of the time and nearer

54:27

ways to pirate being created. It makes sense

54:29

to me that we're seeing in a tick. There's too

54:32

much media to consume. So even if you were

54:34

the kind of person who wanted to own

54:36

a lot of physical media, you know, you

54:38

might pirate a few things here and there

54:41

just to fill out your library because

54:43

it's it's too expensive.

54:46

I mean, and look and shout out to all

54:48

the technologies that we've enjoyed in the past

54:50

to circumvent these fees, like Cody,

54:53

if you had a Cody box, let me hear you one time.

54:55

If you have a jailbroken fire stick, let

54:58

me hear you one time. Because those of the

55:00

kinds of things that people were like, why am

55:02

I going to pay nine levels of cable

55:04

bills when I can buy this one thing from

55:06

the homie And I now have every show

55:08

I need to get and I can still keep up with the

55:11

culture without having to pay a constant

55:13

monthly fees. And I think, well, as we look

55:15

at like people's incomes going down to the

55:18

need for priority median ship that are behind

55:20

pay walls, I can only see that growing based

55:22

on just the economics of it. I

55:24

remember my my last buddy in l A

55:27

kept promising to get me a fire stick from my computer

55:30

my, My, My, my TV

55:32

and never got it for me. So rude.

55:35

But I'm glad you're not with somebody like that. No, No,

55:37

he was clearly a little Yeah, I'll

55:42

look you up. I'm gonna get you that five, get

55:45

you all the stations. Girl like

55:48

I'm waiting. I'm waiting. You're like, oh yeah,

55:51

yeah yeah yeah. See my man, he's still waiting there because

55:53

the supply chain. I was like, hell, yeah, I

55:55

get that ship, I get you actually, job for that, I

55:59

was worth it it, It's worth it. Life is rough a

56:02

Lankershim Boulevard, Northola. Yeah, it's

56:05

rough in Valley Village. That's said.

56:07

The city was Valley Village. The new show coming

56:09

to l O L Life on Lankership coming

56:12

at you. Well, Jackie, I don't know a better

56:15

place than to end it right there. Thank you so much.

56:17

First guy, you much fun. Thank

56:19

you for keeping me company in a hotel

56:21

room. Yeah, where

56:23

can people find you? Follow you, see you, experience

56:26

you, check out your special and all that. Jackie

56:29

fabulous dot com can go to that to get

56:31

My comedy album came out also the

56:33

same week as a special, so they both called men applause

56:36

on Amazon. But my link on my website. You

56:38

can get everything you need. I am at the Comedy

56:41

Seller in Vegas all week until

56:43

next week and then I'm back end of the week. My

56:46

birthday is August. Well, so let's just focus

56:48

on Yeah,

56:52

And is there a tweet or some other piece of

56:54

social media that you wanted to shout out that you've been

56:56

liking. Oh, I

56:59

just saw Lena Gomez is going to remake Working

57:02

Girl maybe, And I

57:04

retweeted that just before this because I'm

57:07

really I'm really all four

57:09

of the chicks getting ahead and making stuff

57:11

and you know, heading her own projects

57:13

and producing things. So that's

57:15

the last, the last, the last project that's

57:18

just seen. Shout out to the second

57:20

Latina American to ever be nominated

57:23

for a producer, em Me Selena

57:25

Gomez. She was not for um

57:28

only Murders in the building, and so I'm

57:30

really excited to see her get into her executive

57:33

bag and now she's producing and

57:35

performing. It's great. I

57:38

think she's really great. She's really really a talented actress.

57:40

Has never really rocked with her music too much. That's

57:42

not she to Selena. Fans don't come for me, it's

57:44

not for me. But as a performer

57:47

and as a producer, she's picking an incredible product

57:50

projects, Project Sea,

57:52

She's making incredible projects.

57:54

So I'm very excited about it. Yeah, I'm

57:56

enjoying seeing her take herself out of the childhood

57:58

thing and produced or an actor and let's

58:01

focus on her love life is

58:04

most people cannot make that transition.

58:07

That's the hardest one. I mean if okay,

58:11

so many of my friends I grew up with who

58:14

just got lost in child acting we're not able

58:16

to get out of. But

58:18

anyway, coca cocaine is what hell

58:20

of a drug? Yes it is, Yes

58:23

it is. And getting into hide

58:25

for free every Friday night. It is a bad

58:28

combination in two thousand seven. Anyway, Joel,

58:32

thank you so much for helping me co host and

58:34

and for the last few days. I really appreciate

58:37

you. Where can people find you and follow

58:39

you? Once a tweet that you like, Oh my gosh,

58:42

well, y'all know me. You can find me all over the internet. Actual

58:44

when he gets j O E L E m

58:46

oh and I Q you eat tweets

58:48

and looking I have two quick ones. Okay, So if

58:51

y'all were on Twitter, you know Diane Warren,

58:53

the songwriter came for Beyonce, how

58:56

can there be twenty four writers on a song?

58:58

Within eye roll? Someone put did

59:00

a video of her with Mariah Carey on a

59:02

red carpet. It looks like for Variety.

59:04

And then Beyonce's Move Out the Way,

59:07

which is the song that has um queer

59:09

icon Gress Jones on it, and Mariah

59:12

puts her hands on diane shoulders and shoves

59:14

her out of the way on the carpet, and it is

59:16

a sick video burn that I just really

59:18

appreciate, so uh Babe

59:22

Lillionaire. It's a funky spelling, but

59:24

you could find it. It was lovely and I really appreciate

59:28

uh any and all shade because Diane

59:30

deserved it. She was out here being shicty.

59:33

The other video I've really been enjoying on Twitter

59:35

is somebody put the Alien Superstar video

59:37

over the she Hulp transformation

59:40

from the X Men animated show, and

59:43

what I tell y'all, it is so effing

59:45

good. I'm loving the Alien

59:48

um Women transformation. Somebody did Sailor

59:50

Moon. There's also one for Starfire

59:54

Keep them Coming, I love them.

59:56

This might be favorite meme. Yeah,

59:58

oh man, that's good. Let's see some tweets

1:00:01

that I like, Okay, this one

1:00:03

is the first. One is from Graham at Jessica

1:00:05

Underscore. Schaltz tweeted, I love when people refer

1:00:07

to a solution as a quote silver bullet because

1:00:10

it implies the problem isn't werewolf. Yeah

1:00:15

that I ever really even thought about that. Another

1:00:18

one is from Alexa at Mario

1:00:20

Kart d w I tweeted,

1:00:22

Uh, I don't need ketamine therapy. I need a walkable

1:00:25

city in twenty hour work week and

1:00:27

that that would solve a lot of

1:00:29

problems, actually, I feel like And then

1:00:32

at Guru Lakers tweeted, when does the Clippers

1:00:34

dock on Hulu come out? I'm trying to see something

1:00:37

I heard they run things around here. Oh that's

1:00:39

right, there isn't one. Okay

1:00:44

it sounds sound thirsty. Yeah,

1:00:46

well I got the desert thirst

1:00:49

out

1:00:51

here, especially after that last season. It's

1:00:53

all my god. Anyway. You can

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