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internet, and welcome to this episode

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are some of our favorite segments from

1:46

this week, all

1:48

edited together into one nonstop

1:52

infotainment laughstravaganza.

1:56

Uh, yeah. So without further

1:58

ado, here we go. is

2:00

the Weekly Zeitgeist. We

2:03

are thrilled to be joined by the Executive

2:05

Director of Civil Rights Corp, which is a

2:08

nonprofit dedicated to fighting systemic injustice.

2:10

He's been a civil rights lawyer,

2:13

a public defender, named 2016's Trowler

2:15

of the Year by Public Justice,

2:17

author of several books, the incredibly

2:19

compelling Usual Cruelty, which we've

2:22

had him on to talk about before. He's

2:24

got one coming maybe this year. Most

2:27

importantly, a great follow on Twitter and

2:29

all the social media. Just kidding, that's

2:31

not most important. But please

2:33

welcome back to the show the brilliant, the talented,

2:36

Alec Carrick-Itzane! What's

2:39

up, Alec? Hey, y'all. Thanks for having

2:41

me back. Thanks for

2:43

being here. And the reason we're

2:45

talking like auctioneers is because we only have you

2:47

for 45 minutes, so we wanted to get right

2:50

into it. You all sound great. Thank

2:53

you, man. Revved up, man. Just trying,

2:55

man. Just getting through it. Just getting through it.

2:57

Just know some people from the Biden White House

2:59

and they've got some daddy's little helpers, is

3:02

what they call them. No,

3:05

it's amazing to have

3:07

you back. You know, we usually do

3:09

search history underrated, overrated, but

3:11

I think we can just skip that

3:13

unless there's something you desperately want to

3:15

get off your chest that you think

3:17

is overrated or underrated or something from

3:19

your search history. I don't have anything

3:21

I'm dying to tell everybody, I don't think. Okay.

3:25

Okay. Good. Then we'll ask the questions. We'll

3:28

ask the questions here, Alec. All right.

3:31

So last time we checked in with

3:33

you, there was a little over

3:35

a year ago, or maybe actually a little

3:37

less than a year ago, but

3:39

there was a lot of talk in the

3:42

mainstream media still about how crime was up

3:44

because everyone defunded the police, and

3:47

there's been an emerging story that

3:49

crime has been plummeting, much,

3:51

much less popular story with the

3:54

mainstream media. And I'm

3:56

pretty sure there hasn't been like a

3:59

corresponding like the

4:01

police were never defunded. So like

4:03

their theory of the case seems

4:06

to have been exposed as bullshit.

4:10

So presumably the mainstream media has been

4:12

flooded with articles explaining what they got

4:14

wrong and taking a long hard look

4:17

at their methodology.

4:20

How are you seeing these latest crime

4:22

statistics where crime has gone down? I

4:25

think it's important first to just take a

4:27

step back and understand that whether we're talking

4:29

about last year or the year before or

4:31

the year before that, overall

4:33

levels of police reported crime in this

4:36

country are near historic lows. So even

4:38

when there was all that frenzy about

4:41

retail theft and shoplifting or

4:43

car theft or violent

4:46

crime or robberies, we

4:48

were still at a stage

4:50

in history where all of those things

4:53

were extraordinarily low

4:56

relative to what they

4:58

were, let's say in the 90s or

5:00

in the early 2000s. And it's

5:02

also important to understand that when you

5:04

hear about crime statistics in the news,

5:07

it's really only seven or so crimes

5:11

that the police track and report to the

5:13

FBI. And even then most

5:15

people don't understand that like 40% of police

5:17

departments don't even report that data to

5:19

the FBI. So a lot of it

5:22

is just like FBI statistical estimates based

5:24

on the police reporting like a few,

5:26

what they call index crimes. So what

5:29

is left out of crime

5:31

statistics? Well, almost all the

5:33

crimes committed by police themselves, almost

5:36

all the crime is committed by jail

5:38

and prison guards, almost all

5:40

white collar crime, right? So while

5:42

you hear a lot about theft in

5:44

the news and retail theft and shoplifting,

5:46

what don't the police report and what

5:49

doesn't FBI report when it's tied up crime

5:51

rates, tax evasion or

5:55

wage theft. And wage theft is about

5:57

$50 billion a year. So

5:59

that right there. is three times all

6:02

of the crime that FBI is reporting

6:04

as property crime combined. And so you

6:06

just have to understand that the way

6:08

the media talks about crime statistics is

6:10

really messed up on like a lot

6:12

of different levels. Yeah. Wage theft and

6:14

tax evasion being two crimes that the

6:16

general populace, the readership, the intended audience

6:19

of the mainstream media are

6:21

the victims of. Those are the

6:23

ones that get ignored. The ones

6:25

that get breathlessly reported are the

6:28

ones where proctoring gamble is

6:32

the victim. And that's

6:34

treated as like the more important

6:37

crime. And I think this

6:39

is really important lesson for people. You

6:41

can really mislead people by giving them

6:43

a few anecdotes. So for example, you

6:45

have like a week of news stories,

6:47

even if the anecdotes you're giving are

6:49

true, you report on

6:52

seven true examples of

6:54

shoplifting from Walgreens every

6:56

night. You give the people the impression that

6:59

shoplifting is a huge problem. It might be

7:01

increasing even, right? It's kind of like if

7:03

I compiled a video of every shot Michael

7:05

Jordan missed in his career, I put them

7:08

all together. This guy stinks. Yeah, you could

7:10

create the impression that Michael Jordan is a

7:12

terrible basketball player just by taking all of

7:15

the shots, which he actually did miss, right?

7:17

If you don't show the other shots, right?

7:19

And what the news is doing is something

7:21

very similar. It's not showing the public any

7:24

of the tax evasion. Or

7:26

any of the wage theft or any

7:28

of the pollution violations, right? There's a

7:30

hundred thousand violations that we know about

7:32

of the Clean Water Act every year

7:35

that causes enormous death, cancer, rotting teeth,

7:37

children suffering from a variety of different

7:39

preventable illnesses, et cetera. Those are not

7:41

treated as urgent. And so there's this,

7:44

and they're not reported on the daily

7:46

news. And so just through its reporting

7:48

of anecdote, even if those anecdotes

7:51

are actually happening and true, the news

7:53

can distort our much deeper truths about

7:55

what kinds of activity is really harmful

7:58

to us. And. And shoplifting is a

8:00

good example because tax evasion is about

8:02

a trillion dollars a year. So that's,

8:05

you know, 60 times

8:08

every property crime the FBI reports

8:10

combined. And, and

8:12

yet everyone is freaking out over shoplifting

8:14

and nobody's thinking about tax evasion. Right.

8:17

I feel like the shoplifting thing is still

8:19

like vibrating through like my childhood neighborhood. Like

8:21

there are people who like lived in the

8:23

neighborhood I grew up that are still harping

8:25

about like, we know there's nothing at CVS

8:28

anymore because all the shoplifting and like we

8:30

need to have like a neighborhood meeting about

8:32

this. And it's like, dude, this is like

8:34

a, this is like a two year old

8:36

conservative take on crime that you're like now

8:38

being like, it's, it's happening. And we, it's

8:40

the scourge of our community at the moment.

8:42

But like, I'm curious for this

8:45

stuff that you're talking about, like, where is there

8:47

like a centralized place where you can see like,

8:49

we're like, da's or something are reporting things like

8:51

wage theft or like in a centralized place. So

8:54

I can be like, well, what about this stuff?

8:56

Or is that more just having to be really

8:58

vigilant about what is actually coming out of the

9:00

courts and things like that? Yeah. And we have,

9:02

fortunately, one of the big

9:05

scandals of our time is that

9:07

the agencies who are supposed

9:09

to be investigating a lot of

9:11

these crimes have been completely decimated.

9:13

So for example, the

9:15

federal anti-trust regulators have been completely decimated.

9:18

There are far fewer regulators even looking

9:20

into whether companies are doing price fixing

9:22

and, and doing all kinds of illegal

9:24

stuff that drives up the costs of

9:26

goods for consumers, et cetera, than there

9:28

were 40 years ago. We have fewer

9:31

people investigating that stuff now. And

9:33

the same is true with the so called war

9:35

on drugs, right? They shifted a huge

9:37

percentage of federal agents who were working

9:39

on things like white collar crime, fraud,

9:43

corporate fraud, tax evasion, et cetera.

9:45

And they shifted government resources toward

9:47

the drug war. And so there's

9:49

just fewer people actually even looking

9:52

for the crimes that are committed

9:54

by wealthy people. And that

9:57

means that unfortunately, a lot of the

9:59

crimes that are happening just like aren't

10:01

even brought into the legal system at

10:04

all. And so they're not being reported

10:06

by prosecutors, they're not being reported by

10:08

police at all. And so we rely

10:10

on nonprofit organizations, really good investigative journalism.

10:13

Sometimes the government will itself investigate in

10:15

some ways that shed some light on

10:17

some of these things and you even

10:20

have to cobble it all together. Yeah,

10:23

I mean, you realize too just how

10:25

much of that is just to kind of emphasize

10:27

what, you know, sort of the status

10:30

quo wants to even define as crime. Well, it's like,

10:32

well, don't look at that stuff because then all these

10:34

other people get caught up in our perception of

10:37

what criminality is and we're absolutely don't want to

10:39

do that. It's to actually just

10:41

be like, no, no, no, it's the shoplifters.

10:43

It's these kinds of things that are big

10:45

capital C crime that we need to worry

10:47

about when yeah, they're like everyone's saying these

10:49

are the ones like these other things are

10:51

the things that affect the everyday person on

10:53

a much deeper level. We're the victim. They

10:55

locked up Old Spice at CVS. Also,

10:58

we're the victims there. I do not want to

11:00

wait 15 extra seconds to get

11:02

my Old Spice deodorant out of the plastic

11:04

case. But embarrassing to say I want to

11:07

using Old Spice as a victim anyway. Yeah.

11:10

Oh, yeah. We're just gonna pretend you didn't

11:13

say that because what about axe? I smell

11:15

great. And it's

11:17

a combination of axe and Old Spice. I

11:20

mix it together. It's a home blood. The axe is

11:22

the new. The Old Spice is the old. And that's

11:24

why I smell great to myself.

11:26

Not everybody agrees. What

11:29

is something that you think is underrated?

11:32

Okay, guys, if you must ask,

11:34

I'm gonna tell you. Not

11:36

enough people are talking about the 1994 film

11:39

Angels in the Outfield with

11:41

Danny Glover and Joseph Gordon-Levitt.

11:43

Wow. It's just so good.

11:46

And having Christopher Lloyd as

11:48

the wacky angel, I just

11:50

watched it on a plane

11:52

recently, saw my goddamn eyes

11:54

out. What a heart expanding

11:56

story of hope and upliftment.

11:59

Damn. And then when he

12:01

also surprise adopts JP, like

12:03

the literalist, the cutest kid

12:05

that I've ever seen in

12:07

my life, couldn't believe

12:09

it. And then also to see

12:12

like the bit cards of the

12:14

early launching pad careers of Matthew

12:16

McConaughey, Adrian Brody, Tony

12:18

Danza. What? Tony

12:21

Danza launched his career. Wait, did

12:23

they have Adrian Brody? Yeah.

12:28

They had really small parts and it

12:30

was like, yeah. And it was just

12:32

a delight and incredible. Why have we

12:34

forgotten? Why don't we have more sports

12:37

movies with angels mixed in? Amazing.

12:40

Right. Is it a story that

12:42

like did a team plane

12:44

like go down or something? Why are

12:46

there so many angels in the outfield

12:48

for this? Okay, this was another shocking

12:51

thing because like I have had a

12:53

lifelong attraction to Dermot Mulroney, which I

12:55

just failed to mention. He is the

12:58

deadbeat dad that causes all these issues

13:00

and he says to Tiny. We'll get together,

13:02

right? Yeah. No. Oh

13:05

yeah. He says to Tiny little Joseph Gordon

13:07

Levitt, the child. He says like Tiny

13:09

Joseph Gordon Levitt, the child, which is

13:11

my rap name. Yeah.

13:14

He says, you know, if the

13:16

angels win, then we can be

13:19

like a family again. What a

13:21

horrible thing to say. We'll get together.

13:23

Yeah. Wait, what? Yeah.

13:26

A lot of money riding on it or something. No,

13:29

he's just like, no, he's just like, no, because the

13:31

angels were so bad. So

13:34

we basically like if the angels win, then

13:37

I'll be your dad again. So

13:39

then of course, little baby Joseph Gordon Levitt, he's

13:41

praying, praying, praying, like for the angels to win

13:43

thinking that it's going to come true and he's

13:45

going to get his dad back. So

13:48

then the angels arrived to make them win. Yeah.

13:51

And so little kid prayers if they're like

13:53

sad and pathetic enough. If your parents had

13:55

a different dad. But then they got him

13:57

a different dad. So I don't know. So

14:00

it's not, I don't know why I associated

14:02

angels with ghosts. Angels aren't ghosts, right? In

14:05

a way they are. I don't think you're

14:07

too far off. They're like benevolent, like incredible

14:10

beings. In

14:13

City of Angels, was Nicholas Cage an

14:16

eternal being who had never been alive

14:18

or was he like a dead guy?

14:21

Anybody remember? We had a

14:23

real run in the 90s of Angel movies,

14:25

huh? Yeah, we love Angels. I saw this

14:27

movie again in the last year also on

14:30

the plane. I, you know, I, you

14:32

know, my passion for the most physical. Yeah,

14:34

Angels on planes for you. Whenever

14:37

you're on a plane, you're like, God, I get an

14:39

angel flick in. Yeah, well, I'm like, I'm probably pretty

14:41

close to them up here. You know, maybe I should

14:43

look over on the way to there. Yeah,

14:45

I read in the paper. Just hold it up.

14:47

Yeah. It's

14:50

a good movie. I loved it. I love

14:52

this. I love those movies. Michael,

14:55

the John John Travolta movie, which

14:57

I don't know anything other than

15:00

would have John Travolta with an angel,

15:02

though. Oh, my God. I also watched

15:04

that movie. Did you? Wow. You really

15:06

are an freak for the angels, huh?

15:09

I didn't realize how many of these

15:11

I've watched in the last year. Did

15:13

you even see Alita Battle Angel? No,

15:16

I've never seen that one. Is that good? No,

15:18

it's not. Oh, OK. It's not. It's and it

15:21

barely has nothing. It's just there was like a

15:23

sort of title of the character. Have

15:25

you watched the Bone Thugs and Harmony Crossroads

15:28

video lately? Not lately. I

15:30

can't say I have, but I can do

15:32

it after this podcast. That's no problem. I

15:34

can fire it right up. Because

15:37

there's a there's an angel with

15:39

big old wings, big

15:41

old honkers. I do

15:43

have a recollection of that from my

15:45

childhood, actually. Touched

15:48

by an angel, Superducer Justin is pointing out

15:50

Touched by an angel was a big 90s.

15:53

Oh, yeah, I watched the shoot out of that on Channel

15:55

four cable as a child. You know, I was like, maybe

15:57

if I watch them, they'll come to my room. So

16:01

was that like an obsession of yours when you

16:03

were a child? Did you like when you were

16:05

in school, were you like drawing angels and shit?

16:08

I mean like no, it's not

16:10

just angels and it really hasn't

16:12

stopped. Like it's

16:14

been consistent as every year of my

16:17

life, but I just have a lot

16:19

of interest in like

16:21

what could possibly be

16:23

and like God, like I don't know what God

16:25

is, but like I pray a lot and like

16:27

I love the idea of angels. Like

16:29

I don't know if it's real or whatever.

16:32

I also love like fantasy shit, like

16:34

witches and magic and wizards and things

16:36

like that. Even though I'm

16:38

a jock and very cool and not nerdy at

16:40

all. So it's confusing. Do you think if you

16:42

were an angel, like in a child made like

16:44

a sports prayer, like it would have to be

16:46

like volleyball based for that way. You're like, I

16:49

got this one. I can handle this one. Not

16:51

at all. I don't even feel too

16:54

large of a tie to volleyball, although I

16:56

love that sport, but no, I'm not like

16:58

volleyball is supreme sport. You know, I'm saying

17:00

as an angel, if you're giving your expertise

17:02

to like, Hey, man, anybody do baseball up

17:04

here? No. All right. We

17:07

got another kid who's praying to his family reunites

17:09

if they can win this beach volleyball tournament anybody.

17:12

They need a defensive specialist. Yeah. You

17:14

know, Miles, you pose an excellent query as

17:16

always. And I think I would have to

17:18

go with the child who, you

17:21

know, needed me most really, but that's just

17:23

sort of the type of heart I have.

17:25

I get that. I get

17:27

that. I appreciate that. You're humble. And, uh,

17:29

how would I happen? Anyhow would I have

17:31

in takers? That was, that was the

17:33

eighties. That was

17:35

probably before you. Wasn't it? There was

17:38

a show where it was like, what

17:40

if the guy you see hitchhiking on

17:42

the highway is actually

17:44

angel though? And

17:47

the guy was Michael Landon, who

17:49

was a very handsome. Oh,

17:52

well, that sounds right up my alley.

17:54

Might have to check that out also.

17:56

Yeah. Worth a shot. Worth

17:58

a shot. What's, uh, what's something you think is. Overrated the

18:01

VIP area. Oh, I think

18:05

Tell them how you live DVK how many times because

18:07

I've we've been to this you've been to a thing

18:09

like oh we have this area for you guys actually

18:11

over there and you'll be like be at

18:14

a Club or a

18:16

bar or whatever and as a person who

18:18

I don't frequent the VIP area. I'm not

18:20

of the love but

18:23

but Oftentimes people the VIP

18:25

area they're like if you want to get

18:27

in and be a part of the party

18:29

and have fun You have to go out

18:32

into Genpop Right.

18:34

Yeah. Yeah, so it's like people pay

18:36

these tables to do these bottle service

18:39

Just to like stand there and not really be

18:41

a part of the party Yeah,

18:43

but if you do decide if they're like what have

18:45

you this for let's be a part of the party

18:47

Well, then you realize you didn't need the VIP area.

18:50

No what you wanted was a

18:52

place to sit I

18:56

Understand I oftentimes if I

18:58

need to get out just sitting somewhere

19:00

in these lights Is

19:02

I will want to have stepped outside for

19:05

a minute anyway, right? Right, right and that's

19:07

the greatest VIP area of all outside

19:09

the out of doors God's

19:13

VIP Guy

19:17

a guy a nailed it. Yeah, that's right.

19:19

No. Yeah the VIP I mean because it's

19:21

it's it's wild how different like when back

19:23

when back when I was going to clubs

19:25

in the early aughts The

19:28

shit was there was maybe only a couple VIP

19:31

tables and it was mostly still

19:33

a like a place you got

19:35

fucking gnarly sweaty dancing and

19:37

shit and then you left and It's

19:40

interesting to see how over time Like

19:42

the flex culture has taken over even the like spaces

19:44

that were just meant to get like sweaty and dancing

19:46

where it's like now It's like 40% fucking

19:49

tables or 50% tables and no one dances

19:51

and it's just to be seen and that's

19:54

like where I feel like so In

19:58

Vegas, right If you're living that

20:01

VIP life, you

20:03

probably like when I

20:05

go to Vegas, I'm there to sort of

20:07

run them up with the peasants. We're all

20:09

peasants running around. Yeah, freak out. I

20:12

want to go to the pool at the Flamingo

20:14

and just people watch while drinking my Miami Bice.

20:16

I thought you were just peeing in the Flamingo

20:18

pool. Just pee. Just pee. In the kiddie pool.

20:20

Just take a long pee while making eye contact

20:23

with everybody. Yeah, and then I pee in the

20:25

sphere. Yeah. No, but

20:27

if you're like VIP lifestyle, you're like, oh, we

20:29

got a room and it has its own pool.

20:31

Well, that's going to be the most boring pool

20:33

in Vegas. Right. Yeah, exactly.

20:35

So what's up, Eric? Yes.

20:38

Hey, hey, hey,

20:40

hey, guy I work

20:43

with who I flew here with, and now it's

20:45

just me and him in this pool in this

20:47

room we paid for. That's sick, huh? I got

20:49

to have the PB and J over there in

20:51

the fridge. In the fridge. It's

20:54

in fridge actually, so it's still pretty good. All right.

20:56

All right. But you get a great room, they're like,

20:58

the room has its own pool. And I'm like, yeah,

21:00

but I'm in Vegas. This isn't the pool I want

21:02

to be at. Yeah. Right. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I

21:04

want to be in the pool that gives me syphilis.

21:06

Yes. Yeah. Give it right back.

21:08

Right. I

21:11

want someone to say, you didn't open your eyes underwater there,

21:13

did you? And

21:15

then you go, why? What's wrong? You go, oh. Oh,

21:18

shit. I can already see it. Yeah. Yeah.

21:21

No, I 100% agree. I

21:24

don't really do VIP areas. The times, the

21:26

very few times that I've encountered, I feel

21:28

like there are two types of VIP areas.

21:30

They're the ones that are like kind of

21:33

off to the back. And

21:35

then they're the ones that are like in the center

21:37

of everything. Right. To be like the

21:39

look at me. To be the look at me

21:41

VIP area. That feels like

21:44

so desperate and thirsty to be in

21:46

that VIP area. Like that's embarrassing.

21:48

To be in a VIP area that's like

21:50

in the middle of the whole thing. Yeah.

21:53

Like what the fuck are we doing? Can I

21:55

start question you guys really quick? Yeah. Have

21:58

you seen any like. Lately in your

22:00

life or just on the internet like

22:03

when they do bottle service at a club Yes,

22:05

that's like what they're writing on the signs as

22:07

they walk out like holding, you know, sometimes it

22:10

just says like happy birthday Yeah, yeah, whatever but

22:12

I've seen recently where they're so Like

22:16

left field and hilarious like they're walking out

22:18

and the sign says she's not gonna text

22:20

you back They're walking out in the

22:22

sign says it's just paper Right.

22:25

This is like they're they've become

22:27

like meme boards, right? They're

22:29

hilarious and I always wonder does the club

22:31

do that or is that what the person

22:33

requested? When they ordered the bottle

22:35

because I don't order the bottle. I have no idea

22:37

how this works I will hey, I'm

22:40

gonna pay you a thousand dollars for a single

22:42

bottle of booze Could you roast me while you

22:44

bring it out to me? You just absolutely rinse

22:46

me in front of all these people. I'm so

22:49

desperate to impress That would

22:51

be cool this so the smear naff is

22:53

a thousand dollars for a 750 mil. Yeah Okay,

22:57

I guess I'll take that then

22:59

that's the cheapest one. Yes Do

23:01

we get orange juice with that? 78

23:04

bucks. Yeah, I was in Japan recently for a

23:07

friend's wedding and at the at the end of

23:09

their wedding Like it was very low-key like a

23:11

just super chill wedding like it wasn't a huge

23:13

affair and afterwards the bride and groom Like we

23:15

kind of want to go dancing So

23:17

like me and a few of our other

23:19

friends we'd like we didn't get him a gift because they're

23:21

like you guys Traveled all the way here. Please don't get

23:23

us gifts. We're like old and we went to a club

23:25

We're like I kind of need to sit down dude Like

23:28

I'm not young enough to want to be

23:30

up in it right now Like I'd rather just

23:32

sit off to the side luckily bottles in like

23:34

Japan were not expensive So like between the six

23:36

of us were like, all right if we all

23:38

put in like 80 bucks Like we

23:40

can all sit down and we did that and

23:42

it was the funny part was they

23:44

go Oh, where are you guys from America? So

23:46

when the bottle came out they had like sparklers

23:49

and they were just waving American flags and shit

23:51

and I was like no no no no no

23:53

We don't gotta do all that But then like

23:55

the people next to us from like Australia then

23:57

they brought an Australian flag out and they're like

23:59

you're like Making it rain napkins and shit.

24:01

Like it was just very nice. Then

24:03

the sparklers and at that point I was like,

24:06

see, this is why I'm the only way I can

24:08

drink any liquid as

24:11

if it has a sparkler and an American flag in

24:13

it. Gotta have always been that way. It's

24:15

the only way I can wet my whistle. That's

24:17

how your dad made your lunch. Exactly,

24:19

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26:59

Well, let's talk. Speaking of bye,

27:01

Eden. Speaking of bye, Joe Biden.

27:04

That's what you were saying. You were

27:06

just trying to get started on this

27:08

next story. What's

27:11

he up to this time, Miles? What is

27:13

this rascally rabbit up to? It's been a,

27:15

you know, Joe Biden's presidency has been a

27:17

lot, like recently a lot of one for

27:19

them being the GOP and one for you,

27:22

the left or

27:24

Democratic base or people who thought the world could

27:26

be a better place. But yeah,

27:29

Biden hasn't really done much to differentiate himself from

27:31

Trump. You know, when it comes to immigration, like

27:33

he left a lot of policies in place from

27:35

Trump's administration and even like altered some of them

27:37

a bit. And then he really

27:39

pissed off his own supporters by appeasing

27:41

Republicans and cracking down on the number

27:44

of asylum seekers that can enter the

27:46

country. Well, I guess Biden

27:48

decided that now or at least on

27:50

Monday, which was the anniversary of the

27:52

DACA program from Obama is the day

27:55

he will announce a policy that is

27:57

the biggest push to grant amnesty to

27:59

undocumented. immigrants since Obama's

28:01

DACA program in 2012. So

28:04

what does it do? It essentially gives

28:07

a path to apply for permanent residents

28:09

to undocumented people and their

28:11

children that are married to

28:13

US citizens. So basically anyone, undocumented

28:16

spouses, stepchildren of US citizens can apply.

28:18

This is around 500,000 spouses and about

28:20

50,000 of

28:23

their stepchildren that could be eligible for this

28:25

new program. And these people

28:27

do have the opportunity to apply for

28:29

permanent residents already by being married to

28:32

an American. But if you've entered the

28:34

country without proper legal permission and stay

28:36

for over one year, you have to

28:38

leave the US and stay abroad for

28:40

at least 10 years before you can

28:43

actually apply for permanent residents. So again,

28:45

this means that families don't have to

28:47

be broken up despite their immigration status,

28:49

which is a great thing. And to

28:52

qualify for the program, non-citizens must, as

28:54

of June 17th, have

28:56

been living in the US for at least 10 years and

28:59

have been married to a US citizen before that date.

29:02

And the administration,

29:04

they estimated that the average

29:06

time that applicants have spent time in the

29:08

US is 23 years. So

29:11

this isn't the kind of like immigration bill

29:13

where Republicans can claim that like the borders

29:16

are open, but obviously that will not stop

29:18

them because nothing is about fact. And it's

29:20

just about cranking up the xenophobia before

29:23

the election. So yeah, a

29:25

bit of good news, despite

29:27

the last thing that came out of the

29:30

administration regarding immigration. But this is,

29:32

so they're like addressing for people

29:34

who are married to

29:37

somebody who aren't actually

29:39

like allowed, because

29:41

if you get married to an American, like

29:43

that doesn't automatically make you a US

29:46

citizen. I thought that did. Well,

29:49

you know, you're able to- I thought that this whole time. You

29:51

can apply, but if your legal status was

29:53

not like, if you didn't have the proper

29:55

permission to be in the United States, then

29:57

that would cause people to have to exit

29:59

the country. for 10 years. 10

30:01

years is so crazy. I thought it was

30:03

going to be like, okay, go back and then

30:05

come back and you're good. But no,

30:08

yeah, you're good. You just need to leave

30:10

the country for 10 years. TV

30:13

shows, like every TV show is like,

30:15

oh, I'm married for a green car.

30:18

Yeah, right. But you could do that if

30:20

you can. Let's say you had a visa

30:22

to come in and during that time, you

30:24

were actually allowed to be in the United

30:27

States and got married. You're legally here in

30:29

the US. That's what 90 day fiance is.

30:31

Exactly. That's the 90 days visa that allows

30:33

you to date

30:35

like mad and hopefully find

30:38

a spouse. And then from there, you're usually

30:40

like in a very long process to get

30:42

your green card or permanent resident status and

30:44

things like that. But this will allow people,

30:46

so it's not as disruptive. And a lot

30:48

of people wouldn't go through to apply for permanent

30:50

residents because they would have to leave for 10 years. I'm

30:53

like, why the fuck? I have fucking kids and shit. I

30:55

can't do that. Yeah. This

30:57

is a little wits, tiny wits, small victories

30:59

and also helps. There's

31:01

also some streamlining of the laws for people

31:04

in the DACA program. But yeah, this

31:06

was a I'm surprised that on the

31:08

front page of the Drudge report did

31:10

not have them screaming about

31:12

this new sort of program as it relates

31:15

to immigration from the Biden administration. Yeah, worse.

31:18

They had the fucking Boston Celtics

31:20

championship instead. It's like, oh, okay.

31:24

I was so excited to come on here

31:26

the day after the NBA finals. Of

31:31

course, Boston Celtics get a front page

31:33

Drudge report. It's a win for us

31:35

Bruins, you know, because of Drew Holliday.

31:38

But God, Drew Holliday is the man, man. I

31:41

don't even know why I hate the Celtics at

31:43

this point. I know why. Like I'm

31:45

like their players. I

31:47

just the team, something about it. It's anti-lakers

31:49

in here. Yeah,

31:52

that's I mean, that's yeah, we have a we

31:54

have a just a lifelong. We can't handle it

31:56

here. Yeah. Seeing that they have one more banner

31:58

than us. So yeah, I've already. We received plenty

32:00

of dunks on the internet already from my field,

32:02

an 18th banner. But hey, we

32:05

accept it and we breathe through it. Yeah. And

32:08

we breathe through it. The last

32:10

time the last five Celtics

32:12

championships were followed immediately by

32:14

at least one

32:17

Lakers title. Yeah, yeah. Okay,

32:20

let's go. Let's go. A

32:23

record that will soon be broken. Exactly,

32:25

yes. Because they're not good. Not with

32:27

this team, not with these owners. Probably

32:29

not with these guys. That's

32:31

sad though. Everyone

32:34

on Twitter was trending saying it

32:36

was the worst NBA championship game

32:39

ever. But there is something, I

32:41

mean it's great for the winning

32:43

team, but for the viewer, a

32:46

blowout is just not fun. Yeah,

32:48

yeah, yeah, exactly. As a news report.

32:50

The ratings are way down. I feel

32:52

like people generally don't like the Celtics.

32:55

So when the Celtics are doing good,

32:57

when things are good for the Celtics,

32:59

America is losing. Celtics win,

33:01

America loses. Just

33:03

keep that in mind, NBA and the referees.

33:06

I'm just saying guys. Help.

33:09

On the thing with the immigrants, I was

33:11

just going to say, I guess the important

33:13

thing is the numbers, right? They're putting up

33:15

numbers. 500,000 spouses, 50,000 of their stepchildren could

33:17

be eligible. That's

33:21

the thing. From a political

33:23

perspective, again, it feels like

33:26

a lot of people are probably like, wait, I

33:29

thought those people already had access

33:32

to legal immigration. Anyways, I

33:34

do want to just talk about immigration

33:36

in general because there's

33:39

just all of this

33:41

evidence that

33:43

immigration is just a win. It's

33:47

like win, win, win, like wins all

33:49

the way down for America if

33:52

they would just let it happen. And

33:54

the thing that has been happening is

33:57

that both sides have

33:59

been you know,

34:01

bowing to racists and like racist

34:03

fear. But like, if you just, I

34:06

don't know why this point isn't

34:08

being made more consistently. Like, it

34:11

seems to help all the things that

34:13

like conservatives claim to care about, like

34:15

the economy. Like it's not

34:18

just that the US can handle

34:21

more immigrants, we desperately need more

34:23

immigrants. Like, it's the

34:25

thing that drives the US economy. Like

34:28

anytime the US has like

34:30

an uptick in economic success,

34:32

it's usually because immigration is

34:34

up. Like the right

34:36

is always like so scared

34:38

about like population growth and like,

34:40

well, like the birth rate's going

34:42

down, so we're fucked. And

34:45

it's like, well, actually not if you just allow

34:47

people to immigrate, like a lot of- And

34:49

also like, we're not fucked because the

34:51

birth rate is going down. I was just gonna

34:54

say, what's bad with the birth rate going down?

34:57

It poses economic challenges that they

34:59

really want to emphasize and be

35:01

like, we're fucked you guys. This

35:03

is bad news. Well,

35:06

cause you also have like Elon- Yeah, maybe if you make it better. Well,

35:09

and also a lot of billionaires are like, we

35:11

need more people. Like it's a crisis, like Elon

35:13

Musk and like Jeff Bezos- And that's why you

35:15

should fuck me. Yeah, Jeff Bezos has

35:17

also said it. Yeah, Elon is obsessed. He's

35:20

like, if we had more people born,

35:22

we could have more Mozarts and more

35:24

Einsteins and things like that. But the

35:26

thing that they fail to like really

35:28

acknowledge is like, you need a level

35:31

of stability for people to become Mozarts

35:33

or Einsteins. And if- Yeah,

35:35

and you don't even have enough days in the week to

35:37

go visit all your kids, so. And

35:39

by the way, the last generation of

35:41

billionaires, they were freaking out because the

35:44

population was growing too much. So like,

35:46

they just always want to have a

35:48

thing to freak out about that allows

35:50

them to speculate about getting

35:52

rid of huge swaths of people

35:55

or everybody fucking them in

35:57

this case. Right. But

35:59

just like putting a- the moral responsibility the country

36:01

has for safely welcoming migrants into the

36:04

country. So

36:06

the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office

36:08

projected a smaller deficit and

36:10

national debt than last year

36:12

because of an unprecedented spike.

36:15

Like, not unprecedented, but like just

36:17

normal pre-pandemic levels of immigration.

36:20

Like, it's the thing that is

36:22

allowing the U.S. economy to bounce

36:25

back is immigration going back to

36:27

pre-pandemic levels. But if

36:29

there's immigrants, my wages go down. No,

36:32

that your wages actually go up. What?

36:34

Yeah, it's good for – like, that's the

36:36

– there's just

36:38

so many details of this argument

36:41

that we've been hearing for fucking

36:43

decades that just like aren't true.

36:46

And like the mainstream media has

36:48

just been allowing like Fox News

36:50

to say them and not being

36:52

like, actually, no, it's the opposite

36:54

of that. The immigrants – so

36:57

there's a study that shows immigrants

36:59

boost the economy by sparking innovation,

37:01

driving up wages, driving up wages,

37:04

like across the board, as well

37:06

as appealing to foreign investors, opening

37:08

long-term export opportunities. So it's like

37:10

all the shit that the mainstream media loves

37:12

to talk about, like think about your country

37:15

as an investment. It's like all that stuff,

37:18

immigration like drives that, is like the

37:20

best thing for that. There's

37:22

this one article that notes

37:24

that the so-called immigration surplus

37:27

boosts the GDP and raises

37:29

incomes for non-immigrants. And if

37:31

you're wondering what left-wing rag

37:33

printed that story, it's the

37:35

goddamn George W. Bush Institute.

37:40

I didn't even know that was an institute. That's

37:42

my favorite institute. Oh, Blair, you must –

37:45

I've got some articles I have to

37:47

share with you. Yeah, please do. Thank

37:49

you. Do they do painting workshops there?

37:51

Yes. How do you draw an apple

37:53

tree? Oh. And

37:56

there's like elderly art galleries and

37:58

stuff. Yeah. and

38:00

good studies on immigration. Wow,

38:02

beautiful. So well-rounded.

38:05

He's, yeah, a true Renaissance

38:07

man. Dynamic. He can

38:09

both lead directly to the deaths of

38:11

all the soldiers and do a C-plus

38:13

job of painting them after they got

38:15

it. He's got all the bases covered.

38:18

The US Department of Health and Human

38:21

Services published a groundbreaking report which concluded

38:23

that refugees and asylees had a positive

38:25

net fiscal impact on the US government

38:27

over a 15-year period totaling $123.8 billion.

38:33

Again, I think it's

38:35

weird to quantify people, human

38:37

lives and the need to do

38:39

the morally correct thing in dollar

38:41

figures, but it is the mainstream,

38:46

supposedly left-leaning media

38:49

is allowing, it's

38:52

just leaving all the shit on the

38:54

table that they love talking about. Or

38:56

even perspective, right? Because there's always this

38:58

hand-wring about, I mean, because

39:00

many people are sort of bought into this

39:03

idea, it's like we're letting too many people

39:05

into the country, but if you actually

39:07

add some context to that, we're really

39:09

low on the list of developed nations

39:11

that are actually the amount of people

39:13

that are entering the United States as

39:15

immigrants is completely different than at the

39:17

highest level. We're between 40 and

39:20

41 on the legal immigration list

39:22

and 35th on the overall

39:25

immigration. So yeah, like behind- Like

39:27

in terms of per capita, per

39:29

capita immigration. Per capita immigration, yeah.

39:33

So it feels like the main

39:36

issue is that because of

39:39

racist fear and these tropes that immigration's

39:41

bad for the economy and bad for

39:44

just the country in general- Safety, yeah.

39:47

Safety, oh yeah, and by the

39:49

way, safety. First generation immigrants are

39:52

the least likely people to commit

39:54

crimes, like across the board. They

39:56

are, like this is a thing

39:59

that's obviously raised- repeatedly by the right

40:01

wing when it comes to immigration. Immigrants

40:03

are far less likely to commit crimes

40:05

than people born here in any demographic

40:08

just across the board. A new

40:10

Stanford study found immigrants are even

40:12

white patriots. Stanford study found

40:15

immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated

40:17

for a crime than native born white

40:19

Americans. And this has

40:21

been true since the eighties. And

40:23

by that, I mean the 1880s.

40:25

It's just straight up always been

40:28

true. Immigrants come,

40:30

they do great work.

40:33

They pay into social

40:35

security. There's all this

40:37

money coming in. They

40:39

pay taxes. They don't commit

40:41

crimes. We have massive troves

40:46

of data that say that

40:48

this is the best

40:50

thing that the US has going for

40:52

it is that people want to come

40:55

here. And when they

40:57

do, they do great work, essentially. And

40:59

they don't commit crimes. Basically the opposite

41:02

of all the bullshit

41:04

that it dominates mainstream media

41:06

accounts of immigration. But

41:08

because of racism and white supremacy,

41:11

they like it becomes a

41:13

political issue. And then they

41:15

don't fund this like intake

41:17

systems, the systems for bringing

41:19

these people in and safely

41:22

integrating them into the society. And

41:24

so now you need to be

41:27

seeking asylum. You need to be

41:29

fleeing something terrifying. And then they

41:31

don't fund that. And they don't

41:33

have the necessary infrastructure

41:36

to help those people in.

41:38

And so you have these areas

41:41

that are just overwhelmed with people. But

41:43

it's not because there are too many

41:45

people. Again, Miles, like you said, we

41:48

are low on the list of

41:50

per capita immigration. It's not

41:52

that there are too many people

41:54

for the US to handle. It's just

41:56

the US is choosing not to handle

41:59

the people. because of racism.

42:02

Well, and also, we're constantly meant to

42:04

think that we're living in this fucked

42:06

up zero sum game too, where it's

42:09

like, there's nothing, there's just nothing, we

42:11

can't handle anything. If that

42:13

happens, then you lose something. That's always how

42:15

so many things are framed when we're trying

42:18

to progress societally. It's like, well, if those

42:20

people do better, then you're going to lose

42:22

something. It's always the default context

42:24

that we're operating in or how these things

42:26

are presented. Like you say,

42:28

all these charts make it look like line

42:31

go up. All those

42:33

charts that you all seem to love as

42:35

line go up and does not seem to

42:37

matter in this case. You seem to be

42:39

very selective of when you care about line

42:41

go up. I

42:45

feel like a lot of it is just like, yeah,

42:48

I think their music's weird, man. Like,

42:50

I don't like their music. You know,

42:52

like the shit, the same fear that

42:54

old people have of young people. I

42:56

feel like it's just that. It's like

42:58

they're different. And so I don't want

43:00

it in my country. Like, I don't

43:02

want to be replaced by that. And

43:04

it's just... Mm-hmm. It's

43:07

like, well, you're going to be replaced either way because

43:09

you will not. You're going to be replaced in the

43:11

thing that you're worried about. Demographically or because of your

43:13

existence. But that's inevitable. So let's

43:15

embrace the thing that helps people. And

43:18

also, I think that's the other part too. We were talking

43:21

about this with Alec Carrick-Cassanis. There's

43:24

so much of the reason people end

43:26

up having to flee their countries typically

43:28

intersects with US imperialism at some point.

43:30

Yeah. And it's like,

43:32

yeah, maybe, I mean, look. We could have

43:35

a great perpetual machine where we export imperialism,

43:37

make their countries unlivable, and then take them

43:39

in if we were just... If

43:42

we'd just embrace it, you know? And then

43:44

we win the Olympics at every competition. We'd

43:47

get really good at soccer, finally, you know?

43:51

Oh, we're on the way. We're on our way. We're on

43:53

our way. Are we about to like get our ass kicked

43:55

in the Olympics? Or I feel like... Copa

43:57

America? Copa America? That's the... That's

43:59

the next tournament. But no, the US, they're doing

44:01

all right. Because precisely that. Because

44:04

it's like, it's, you know, servicemen abroad

44:06

and also because of like people who

44:08

come from countries with strong soccer cultures

44:10

are making sure that even the American

44:12

sports argument, immigration. Yeah, we got a

44:14

lot of big people in our country

44:16

too. Yeah.

44:21

We got some horses. I think compared to others, right?

44:24

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Do

44:26

we have the... I feel like Americans are... What

44:28

do you see? Like which country

44:31

is the biggest bodies? Yeah,

44:33

like we got a lot of antibiotics in

44:35

our food and shit like that growth hormones,

44:37

don't you think? Yeah.

44:39

Let's see. Maybe not resonant for

44:41

soccer, but for other sports, you

44:43

know? Oh, yeah. You

44:46

don't need to be a tallie for soccer. You got

44:48

to be like a little quickie. You got to be

44:50

quick, man. It's all about that lateral speed. Fast twitch,

44:52

yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dutch people are the tallest in

44:54

the world. Yeah. They're

44:56

the tallest. They're probably so tall over there, you know?

44:59

I don't know. Yeah, but we got the

45:02

body mass. We have to be top in the

45:04

body mass. That or Pacific Islanders too. Yes,

45:07

let's go. Also, we got... You know

45:09

what I mean? Like Tongans, Samoans? Yeah,

45:11

and also we got a lot of

45:14

protein culture, I feel here. Yeah.

45:18

Yeah. At the expense of

45:20

our health, our declining life expectancy. Totally. Totally.

45:23

I think the life expectancy dropped for the second year in a

45:25

row. Is that true? Yeah,

45:27

yeah. It's like historic. It's

45:29

never happened before. Two straight years. My

45:31

grandma and great auntie just died at

45:33

like 98 and 97 and then I

45:35

just went to my other great auntie's

45:37

100th year birthday. And

45:40

then I think these people were

45:42

like smoking and drinking and stuff.

45:44

I don't know what makes sense

45:47

fully. I wonder how much of it too

45:49

is like, because I think about that with my mom's mom

45:51

in Japan. She lived to be 101. And

45:54

it's like, she didn't start eating like processed.

45:56

She didn't start eating like processed food until

45:58

like the 70s. So

46:00

a huge majority of her life was

46:03

like I was growing food or like

46:05

eating food we made by hand Yeah,

46:07

whereas now I need my two cans

46:09

of Pringles No,

46:12

I know it's very sad we've

46:14

gotten so far away I feel like Japan

46:16

is Japan one of like the what are

46:18

they called those places like the blue blue?

46:21

Blue zone. Yeah the blue zone. Yeah,

46:24

I mean it definitely has like some

46:26

of the highest life expectancy Yeah,

46:29

by the way, nacho cheese Doritos introduced in

46:32

the 70s 1972 so Jack

46:34

you're sick and you need God And

46:39

that's not I wasn't reading that off the internet I was

46:41

reading that off the tattoo that I have on the inside

46:43

of my arm Hong

46:47

Kong Macau in Japan are the top

46:49

three the Longest

46:52

life expectancy then Switzerland Singapore,

46:54

Italy Blair Had

46:59

crazy pollution like that there was a lot

47:01

of lung cancer there An

47:05

average eighty five point eight three years for

47:07

both. Whoa, that's 84

47:11

great Hong Kong never heard that. I've always

47:13

heard Japan that one town in California. No,

47:16

no, no, no from CIA dot-gov

47:23

Here's some here's a problem we got a fix

47:25

guys Well, actually their latest one

47:27

says Monaco has the highest what the fuck

47:29

are they doing in Monaco? They're just rich

47:31

as fuck I know Yeah,

47:36

damn to eat shit like Doritos

47:41

The craps table their Doritos are like

47:43

good for you They're like I actually

47:45

got all my macros through these special

47:48

Millionaire Doritos really good really good

47:51

for your gut biome Monaco Doritos.

47:53

Yeah. Yeah, they don't have Doritos

47:55

on yachts Monacan what

47:57

do you what's the adjective for

47:59

monoc? Yeah, Monica. It is. I

48:02

think so. Wow. Hey Monica.

48:05

No. One time I met a guy

48:08

named Megan. Oh, Monogask or Monocan? Monocan.

48:10

Hey, alright, Monocan. Monogask is kind of

48:12

cool though. That goes hard. Monogask. Yeah.

48:14

Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I'm changing

48:17

my nationality. I'm Monogask. There

48:23

you go. Thank you. I didn't know you could

48:25

do that. Yeah, you can. Miles Capp. That's actually

48:27

his superpower. Kind of problematic when I go to

48:29

ethnic restaurants, but hey, I still

48:31

try. Yeah. Or,

48:34

and by ethnic restaurants, he means the

48:36

Cheesecake Factory. Yes, thank you. Yeah. Just

48:38

give me that. My ethnicity is Cheesecake

48:40

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50:38

RFK Jr. did not qualify for

50:40

the CNN debates. Were you guys

50:42

making a lot of noise? What metric are you using, man? Didn't

50:46

qualify for- So CNN's polling threshold

50:48

of 15% in

50:51

at least four approved national polls.

50:53

Okay. He got

50:56

to three, so congratulations. This

50:58

was the big detail that

51:00

I feel like is being

51:02

under-emphasized in the mainstream media. He

51:04

also fell short of the ballot

51:06

requirements to secure access in enough

51:09

states to win 270 electoral votes.

51:13

So he, this person who's like being

51:15

given this much

51:17

media attention, is

51:19

mathematically eliminated before

51:21

the election starts. Well, that's,

51:24

I think you're focusing on the wrong stuff.

51:27

Agreed. Agreed. Because he also, hold on. Cook,

51:29

cook, cook. He ticked a couple of boxes.

51:32

Is he at least 35 years

51:34

old to run for president? Yes.

51:37

And he's like a nail to that one. I will say.

51:39

Was he born of the

51:41

United States? Boom. Yes,

51:44

he was. Did he file for

51:46

his candidacy with the Federal Election Commission?

51:48

Yes, he did. This is like watching

51:50

Rabbit in 8 Mile right now. Okay,

51:52

yeah, thank you. Give it a D.

51:54

I'm fucking white and I vomited backstage.

51:57

Yeah, this is all, it's all bad.

52:00

I mean, it is true. Like you don't do

52:02

it. Even if you tried, I think the most you can get to is

52:04

like 160 something. That's

52:06

wild. So it's all just

52:09

to prove a high minded point. Like this is

52:11

what's frustrating. Like at that after the 2000 election,

52:14

after, you know, like Bernie

52:16

made a run and then it was like

52:18

all the Democratic Party will never allow something

52:20

like that to happen. I think

52:22

a lot of us were like, I wonder if

52:25

there's ever a path to a third party candidate.

52:27

And so the fact that

52:30

he's doing this and

52:32

is like a lot of the

52:35

arguments he's making are also he's

52:37

making are also the

52:39

arguments that I'm like, yeah,

52:42

no, if if you were trying to prove

52:44

a point other than

52:46

that presidential candidates should

52:49

do their own medicine and stuff. I think

52:52

that's the most interesting thing, right? Like, you

52:54

know, like if you had an actual point

52:56

to make, I think other

52:58

than do your own research, I

53:01

would be like on board. We

53:05

need it to be easier for

53:08

there to be a third party candidate. But

53:10

this guy's fucking it's inspirational. Survivors,

53:14

brain worm survivors can run for

53:16

president. But the thing that I think is

53:18

also kind of wild too is like

53:20

you don't it does. This also doesn't preclude him

53:23

from running. It's like, do you even have the

53:25

votes to be president? No. All right, man. You

53:27

can keep running. All good. Nothing bars you from

53:29

I'd say. Do you have the votes to stop

53:31

me? Oh,

53:35

wait. What? Yeah. Perfect. Don't

53:37

go logic. Well, you really do doing a

53:40

weekly podcast. Let

53:43

me ask you this. Can you kick my ass? Chris

53:47

Rock says special. Yeah. Yeah.

53:51

You're so smart. The thing about a real

53:53

third party, we're not we are not going

53:56

to have a third party. Candidate.

54:00

until we've, this is

54:02

sort of a chicken and egg thing, until we've had

54:04

a third party president. Like

54:06

the person, we're gonna have a third

54:08

party until the person who is running

54:10

in a third party wins. Yeah,

54:14

well, I mean, I think more than that, like

54:16

there actually needs to be more like third party

54:18

people in Congress. That's really the building blocks you

54:20

need is like, you gotta start getting people in

54:22

Congress first before, like you can't just jump, you

54:25

can't just skip to the oval from there.

54:27

Like, yeah, I mean, I think that's the

54:29

trouble especially on like the left has with

54:31

like the two party system is figuring

54:34

out what the best path into that

54:36

is. But the only way to start

54:38

is to actually run people for Congress

54:41

and at least get a foothold there because

54:43

otherwise, yeah, it's gonna be very difficult. But

54:45

I think like with RFK's campaign, the thing

54:47

is even before all of these,

54:50

you know, numbers that

54:52

mathematically quote preclude him from

54:54

winning the presidency, like the

54:57

campaign was just fucking

55:00

wobbly as shit. Like they were not

55:02

making, they weren't raising any money. He

55:04

brought in that tech person, Nicole Shanahan

55:06

to be his vice president to put

55:08

her own money in it. It wasn't

55:10

enough. Like the biggest person bankrolling this

55:12

is like a Trump donor. He

55:15

was even doing stuff. He's like, hey man,

55:17

if you fucking donate, whatever donations you can

55:19

get, I'll give you 15% of

55:21

whatever you gave to me. Let's just split it, 1585. And

55:25

that's- What? Yes. He

55:28

was trying to again, to bring the sharks

55:30

into it, chum the waters by promising a

55:32

15% return on whatever

55:34

you helped fundraise. Dark

55:37

money goes in the water. You go

55:39

in the water. Exactly. It's in the

55:41

water. Exactly. So yeah, it's just all

55:44

like, there's another thing they did is

55:46

like, you

55:49

could do like a luxury sunset sailing adventure.

55:51

Like he tried to do raffles and stuff,

55:53

and he was selling on- He was to

55:55

actually run people for Congress and

55:57

at least get a foothold there because otherwise-

56:00

Yeah, it's going to be very difficult. But I

56:02

think like with RFK's campaign, the thing is even

56:05

before all these, you know, numbers

56:08

that mathematically preclude

56:10

him from winning the presidency, like

56:13

the campaign was just fucking

56:15

wobbly as shit. Like they were not

56:17

making, they weren't raising any money. He

56:19

brought in that tech person, Nicole Shanahan,

56:22

to be his vice president, to put

56:24

her own money in it. It wasn't

56:26

enough. Like the biggest person bankrolling this

56:28

is like a Trump donor. He

56:31

was even doing stuff. He's like, Hey man,

56:33

if you fucking donate, whatever donations you can

56:35

get, I'll give you 15% of

56:37

whatever you gave to me. Let's just split it. And

56:41

wait, what? Yes. He

56:44

was trying to, again, to bring the

56:46

sharks into it, chum the waters by

56:48

promising a 15% return on whatever you

56:51

helped fundraise. Dark

56:53

money goes in the water. You go in the

56:55

water. Exactly. Exactly.

56:57

So yeah, it's, it's just all

57:00

like, there's another thing they did. It was

57:02

like, there was,

57:04

uh, you could do like a luxury

57:06

sunset sailing adventure. Like he tried to

57:09

do raffles and stuff, selling off family

57:11

hair language. Yeah. I mean, what

57:14

do you want? Is that in like high on

57:16

a sport? Like, is he doing the, is he

57:18

trading it on the Kennedy magic? What are we

57:20

doing? Maybe you can't run a campaign, like a

57:22

school silent auction. Exactly. That's what he's doing. Yeah.

57:25

Right. Or yeah. Or I guess you can. Yeah.

57:28

It turns out it's like, Hey, does your dad

57:30

still work in the garage door business? Yeah. You

57:32

think he could like donate a new

57:34

garage door that I could put that in the

57:37

raffle for people free estimate.

57:39

We could do a free estimate. Okay. Yeah.

57:41

Yeah. Yeah. We'll take that.

57:44

This thing is not running on anything

57:46

except my brain worms. The

57:48

other thing that he's getting ridiculed for

57:51

lately is claiming that the head of

57:53

NPR is a CIA agent. This

57:56

is another way he pisses me off because

57:58

some of his conspiracy theories. are good.

58:00

I like the

58:02

conspiracy theory that the head of NPR

58:05

is the CIA agent, personally.

58:08

I don't know it to be true. I

58:10

haven't done my own research into this one,

58:12

but there is a

58:15

history of CIA involvement in American

58:17

media. I doubt the head of

58:19

NPR is a CIA agent. And

58:22

then he's also getting made fun of for, man, he's

58:24

so close. If his whole thing wasn't

58:26

just fuck science and

58:29

medicine, I'd be a big

58:31

fan. Cause his other thing is like, he's,

58:33

he's a weird bird person. He's like

58:35

trying to train Ravens in his yard

58:38

with like scraps of meat, which

58:41

he's got the

58:43

bird boat. He has

58:45

a pet emu that is like

58:47

constantly attacking Cheryl Hines. So

58:50

he's, he's seen his own version of the steps. Absolutely.

58:52

What happened? He could tell by the scratch marks. It

58:55

was definitely a Raven dude. And finally,

58:58

Grimace is back. Grimace left.

59:01

Not my heart. Grimace is like

59:03

the Kennedys and that we are

59:06

just dying for any way

59:08

to get him into the

59:10

zeitgeist. Just give us anything.

59:14

So in this case, Grimace is

59:17

a baseball sensation. So last year

59:19

it was, he put out

59:21

a milkshake that was made of his cum.

59:23

We pointed that out on our show. A

59:26

lot of people, exactly a year ago,

59:28

yeah, exactly a year ago off of

59:30

it. Then, you know, McDonald's profited off

59:32

of it. It was almost like we

59:35

were CIA plants who had

59:37

been put there to make that joke

59:39

to the worst CIA plants. What's our

59:42

mission? All right, agent gray and O'Brien.

59:44

You got to get people to think

59:46

this grimace smoke shake is his cum.

59:49

All right. This is so confusing.

59:51

Way ahead of you. No, trust

59:53

me. Is this for national security?

59:57

Not really. Just, just tell them we think it'd be

59:59

interesting. Just to see where it goes. All

1:00:01

right, all right. This is

1:00:03

like the winds of change that create

1:00:05

a meme, a

1:00:08

bunch of memes about the grandma's milkshake.

1:00:10

All right, so the Mets

1:00:13

are having, all I know about the

1:00:15

Mets is heading into the

1:00:17

season, their fans are like, but this

1:00:19

is like a literal super team. Like

1:00:21

we have paid all the best players

1:00:24

in Major League Baseball to play for

1:00:26

the Mets. How could

1:00:28

it go wrong? And then the next

1:00:30

time I hear about them, they are

1:00:33

having a disastrous season. Those

1:00:35

are the two times, because I don't really pay that

1:00:37

much attention to baseball. So it's like those stories pop

1:00:39

up every once in a while. So that happened again

1:00:42

this year. They have the highest pay roll, $308 million.

1:00:46

Started the season 29 and 37. And

1:00:50

then a little something happened.

1:00:53

They invited Grimace to throw out

1:00:55

their first pitch. And

1:00:58

they won that game. And

1:01:00

that's it. No, no, no. Then

1:01:05

they won seven more. They won seven in

1:01:07

a row after Grimace

1:01:09

threw out the pitch. And everybody has

1:01:11

been speculating. This

1:01:15

is Grimace's doing. Because

1:01:17

some of the wins have

1:01:19

come with bizarre

1:01:21

errors by the

1:01:23

opponents. So

1:01:25

Grimace's magic is malevolent. It's

1:01:30

fucking people up. It's

1:01:32

causing other teams to

1:01:35

have errors and fall down

1:01:37

and hurt themselves. So

1:01:40

finally, the Grimace winning streak came to

1:01:42

an end in a loss to the

1:01:45

Texas Rangers last night. Get

1:01:48

them back out there. Yeah, I mean, they

1:01:50

weren't going to win every game. Grimace

1:01:52

can only do so much. If

1:01:54

I don't like that, I don't like that kind of limited

1:01:56

thinking. I think we really need to. I

1:01:58

think they should lean the fuck into this. this and hope

1:02:00

to fucking God this is what's going on

1:02:03

that grimace is the savior of their season

1:02:05

I think that's just you that make for

1:02:07

a better angels in the outfield type movie

1:02:10

yeah just talk about that with Blair grimace should

1:02:13

be like their jobu from yeah

1:02:15

yeah major league exactly whatever their

1:02:17

yeah offensive yeah yeah yeah exactly

1:02:19

I remember that always blew my

1:02:22

mind when I started watching 24

1:02:24

and like yeah my like movie

1:02:26

conscious like Mike yeah like Mike

1:02:28

connect like my awareness around Dennis

1:02:30

Haysburg's career was like murky so

1:02:32

I'm like dude that's

1:02:34

fucking Serrano from the president

1:02:37

is Serrano he's American I thought

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that guy was so

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stupid like just not understanding what

1:02:45

a fucking movie is but

1:02:48

also what an insult to the fucking

1:02:50

players like it's fucking grimace

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man and I get that a lot

1:02:54

of it was like self-inflicted by their

1:02:56

opponents but that's got to be terrible

1:02:58

for morale when everyone's like dude we

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gotta fucking pray to our grimace statue tonight

1:03:03

because yeah that's what's gonna help them less

1:03:05

all right so I've

1:03:07

heard it said baseball players not always the smartest

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and in many cases not like

1:03:12

is there a sport of the professional athletes

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is there any sport though or we would

1:03:16

say that we're like you know those guys

1:03:18

yeah I was a smart baseball

1:03:21

offense or basketball offensive

1:03:23

linemen and quarterbacks tend

1:03:25

to be really have to be

1:03:27

really smart but I feel like

1:03:30

baseball players are pretty smart insanely

1:03:32

superstitious more than I feel yeah

1:03:34

exactly exactly they're super super like

1:03:36

right so they're very superstitious yeah

1:03:38

they're I feel like like

1:03:40

the the Red Sox had that big

1:03:42

turnaround around the team motto

1:03:44

that they were the idiots I think like

1:03:46

they they called themselves the idiots I think

1:03:50

in baseball it actually helps

1:03:52

to be like proudly stupid

1:03:55

in some cases and so I feel like this

1:03:57

would actually be a good thing for them to

1:03:59

to rally behind, just be like,

1:04:02

yeah, it's like we, we now

1:04:04

just like say our prayers to Grimace before

1:04:06

we go out there because

1:04:08

yeah, it's, it's happening one way or

1:04:10

another. A player was literally asked, how

1:04:12

much credit do you give to Grimace

1:04:14

during the post-win interview? Like literally that

1:04:16

was, that happened. I

1:04:19

hope that straight face, that player said all of it.

1:04:21

Oh yeah, exactly. We don't even know what we're doing.

1:04:23

I actually give it, give them all the credit.

1:04:26

Brandon, you're always very articulate, but I want

1:04:28

you to be very thoughtful about this next

1:04:30

answer. How much credit do

1:04:32

you guys give to Grimace for this

1:04:34

recent stream? I

1:04:36

mean, hey, you know, I

1:04:38

don't know, I don't know about coincidences. So

1:04:40

I, you know, I mean, he definitely

1:04:43

correlates with us, you know, going

1:04:45

on this run and, you

1:04:48

know, if that's what you want to attribute it

1:04:50

to, then, then I'm all for it. Whatever it

1:04:52

is, let's keep it going. I I'm all for

1:04:54

it. There it is. I

1:04:57

like that he was sort of like, let's keep

1:04:59

it going. And causation. He was like keeping the

1:05:01

relationship straight, even in his answer. I know. Well,

1:05:03

it does correlate with this. Well, fuck me, then.

1:05:05

This guy knows correlation causation. This guy, no, you're

1:05:07

right. This guy's pretty smart. He's pretty smart. Yeah.

1:05:10

Whatever it is, let's keep it going.

1:05:13

Yeah. He like, he also doesn't want to lean into it.

1:05:15

He's like, because in his mind, he's like, we can't let

1:05:17

him know it's because of Grimace, man. I think it's his

1:05:20

mouth that makes it look so much like he's coming. Like

1:05:22

that fucks it up. I'm sorry, who is?

1:05:25

Grimace. Sorry, not the baseball player. Oh, OK. I

1:05:27

was just looking at a picture of Grimace and

1:05:29

his mouth just looks. So it is like, yeah.

1:05:33

Plus, he's sort of always looking down

1:05:35

at his sexual partner, saying like, you

1:05:37

like that? Yeah,

1:05:40

his eye line edge does is,

1:05:42

you know, could be read as

1:05:44

pornographic if you were looking to read it

1:05:46

thus, thusly. I am. And

1:05:48

we are. We always are. And that's why

1:05:50

we love you, Daniel Van Kirk. All

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