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34 Reasons Why

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0:00

Welcome one and all to the Friday edition

0:02

of the Damaged Poor, a day in which

0:04

I hear there's some news. I

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hear something news worthy, historic perchance

0:09

has happened. And joining us today

0:11

to break it down

0:14

in all of its exquisite entertainment is the The

0:16

Damaged Poor. And the day after

0:19

the damage is over, the damage is over. And

0:21

the day after the damage is over, the

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damage is over. And the day after the damage is

0:25

over, the damage is over. And

0:27

the day after the damage is

0:29

over, exquisite excruciating detail is

0:32

better like post of the happy half hour at least

0:34

most weeks not recently, but-

0:36

Our family motto for our

0:38

coat of arms in the early

0:40

household does say exquisite and

0:42

excruciating. It's in

0:44

Latin, exquisiteis, excrucianis. But

0:47

don't say that while holding

0:49

a magic wand because something will appear.

0:52

Something terrible, you'll get in trouble with the Ministry

0:54

of Magic, I think. I

0:56

was recently talking with my wife and I was thinking, I

0:59

think we should establish Game of

1:01

Thrones style house words and

1:04

maybe a flag. I want

1:06

to do that. I don't know what that would be. My

1:09

sigil? I don't know. I know everyone's would

1:11

be like a dragon. No, and then half of the people are gonna

1:13

be like a pop tart. No,

1:17

I don't know. I want something that works.

1:21

Maybe people can suggest house

1:23

words. The best house words

1:25

that are not best mocking me

1:27

might get you a blue apron gift card.

1:30

But anyway, I think it would be an

1:32

Australian shepherd, because John is very Australian shepherd.

1:35

What can I do? What can I do?

1:38

I don't have one. Anyway, that's

1:40

funny. Speaking of pop tarts, by the way, before

1:42

the show we were talking about weight gain during

1:45

COVID. And my weight gain, I'm a hipster when

1:47

it comes to weight gain. I've been doing

1:49

it since before all of you. But

1:51

anyway, we were talking about pant

1:53

sizes. And I have some of, you know, as

1:56

you dig further and further into

1:58

the earth, you go back through

2:00

earlier. geological phases and you find

2:02

simpler fossils. Well, I

2:04

have like a full progression

2:07

like Darwin would speculate from

2:09

like 511s to 513s to 514s to

2:12

the athletic genes and I've gradually moved

2:18

through those and that's how I've charted

2:20

my progress. Those are all Levi's codes?

2:23

Yes. Wow. They're

2:25

the classic but they're different styles.

2:28

I'm a beautiful boy, man. You're

2:31

a beautiful boy. I just go for Levi's.

2:33

And I was saying that I used to...

2:35

And like ankle socks, they'll never go out

2:37

of style. I stopped with the same J.

2:39

Crew that's the only place I shop on

2:41

the way back from my mom's house. It's

2:44

just easy and it's like right off the

2:46

freeway. So I stopped there and I got

2:48

the same size genes but I buttoned them

2:50

shut to the point where I was weighing

2:52

more and more but my waist stayed the

2:54

same size and I had a divot like

2:56

where the button clasp

2:59

hits. But since COVID,

3:02

it's been a lot of like

3:04

elastic waistbands and like uni-close. Like

3:07

there's a button but there's a lot of elastic

3:09

and even like a tie. That's true. Just like...

3:11

You gotta be careful. All of

3:13

my body has filled the space. Yeah,

3:15

you gotta expand your brand. You don't

3:18

want the first like J. Crew inspired

3:20

hernia. I remember last

3:22

day off before we gave but like Mango

3:24

had told me a story about one time he

3:26

was like doing a silly thing in front of

3:28

the mirror where he took his boxer shorts and

3:31

he pulled him up to like the center of his waist

3:33

to like make fun of what

3:35

his grandfather looked like. And then he just was

3:37

like, I'm looking at it and he's like, it's

3:39

just an old man in his underpants. It's

3:42

like, I have that body. I'm not making fun

3:44

of that body. I have that body. I

3:47

love short films that are both comedy and

3:49

tragedy. So that is great. Yeah,

3:52

yeah. I had a similar moment when I was watching

3:54

an old Bared with Children episode where Al

3:56

took off his shirt and everyone laughed at him and I

3:59

was like, haha. And I looked at him and was

4:01

like, he's in better shape than me. You're both on TV. Anyway,

4:06

okay, we're setting aside the fact that

4:08

Brett and I are rapidly devolving. We're

4:11

gonna move on to the big news in just a sec. But first,

4:13

we're on the, I guess I

4:16

should actually introduce this. We are filming

4:18

this on the final day of

4:20

our first ever Dragana-thon, a member

4:22

gifting incentive program that has gone

4:24

just absolutely bonkers. Way more successful

4:27

than we ever thought. And

4:29

I'm hoping for a little bit more to

4:31

close it out. But before we get into

4:33

our final day of gifting, here's a little

4:35

mash up that producer actually put together of

4:38

what's happened throughout the month. We

4:40

are launching our first ever Dragana-thon 2024.

4:42

If by the end of this month,

4:48

there are 500 YouTube memberships

4:50

gifted, then I will finally

4:52

bow to the mob and give you

4:54

the ridiculous haircut that you have been

4:57

asking for. I think I'd want an

4:59

emoji. I feel like I'd want an

5:01

emoji and just be me being like,

5:03

sub bitches. I feel like that would be my

5:06

thing. But anyway. All I gotta say

5:08

is thank you. And there were

5:10

more gifts when you weren't

5:12

here. Yes, I got

5:14

that. And when you were here. So I

5:17

did notice that. And thank you everybody who's

5:19

having fun with this. That's all I

5:21

want is for people to have fun. I

5:24

have good and bad news for you. You're

5:26

gonna take it as good news. Bad

5:28

news for me. We have blown

5:30

through the goal of the 500

5:32

gifted subs. Thank you ever the

5:34

gifted membership. Thank you everybody for

5:36

getting us there. A wildly successful

5:38

first ever Dragana-thon 1500 gifted memberships.

5:40

Brett dies. It's air purple too.

5:42

Done. There you go.

5:44

A little preview of what Brett might look

5:46

like with purple hair. Who knows?

5:49

I don't even know

5:51

that I want to set another one because it's a

5:53

lot already. You guys already gifted a lot. I don't

5:55

want to put pressure on you to gift anymore at this

5:57

point. I know that it's in our interest or whatever, but like.

6:00

It's already so many. And

6:06

indeed, we will not. No more stretch

6:08

goals. No more stretch goals. You've

6:10

already done so much. Love it.

6:12

Thank you. It's been amazing.

6:15

I'm sure as of what I'm seeing right now,

6:17

which we'll acknowledge in the social break, we've blown

6:19

past 3000, which is just

6:21

so, so many. And

6:23

a lot of people have contributed, even a lot

6:26

of new people today. But I do want to

6:28

give you like our not final

6:30

check-in, our final check-in, I guess it'll be on Monday.

6:32

We'll establish who, you know, got the top 10 spots.

6:34

But as of right now, starting

6:36

today, first place, Gabby Mathis. I think for

6:38

the first time in first place, no, I'm

6:41

kidding. She's been in first place. I think

6:43

the entire time actually. Seven

6:45

hundred and ten. Damn.

6:49

In second place. Also, incredibly significant.

6:52

The Poetica in second place with

6:54

450. Sinking

6:56

up from behind 430 in third place. Joe

7:00

Gutierrez in fourth place with 150 and

7:02

Bronco, who's been given a ton throughout this

7:05

week is at 135. Thank

7:07

you. Key days at sixth place. 121

7:09

gifted memberships. Seventh place. Anthony

7:12

McClendon with a cool even 100. Eighth

7:15

place. Jen Welch at 84. Ninth

7:18

place. Swidane Dragon with 81 and 10th

7:20

place. Rounding out the leaderboard. Moon Dragon

7:22

with 55. Thank you to

7:25

all of you. Thank you to everybody who is gifted. I

7:27

am trying to find a place

7:30

to do the hair in the way that

7:32

you guys will enjoy. It'll happen soon. I

7:34

don't know exactly when, but we will figure

7:36

that out. And thank you. Okay.

7:38

With that said, Brett, I think we have

7:41

some big news to talk about. It's probably

7:43

going to take up the whole hour. So

7:45

why don't we launch into historic news, historic,

7:47

but also at the same time, inevitable news.

7:50

It almost feels like starting with this. As

7:52

far as the trial itself, it

7:55

was very unfair. We

7:57

weren't allowed to use our. election

8:00

expert under any

8:02

circumstances. You saw

8:05

what happened to some of the witnesses that were

8:07

on our side. They were literally

8:09

crucified by this man who

8:12

looks like an angel, but he's really a devil. He

8:15

looks so nice and soft. People

8:18

say, oh, he seems like such a nice man.

8:20

No, unless you saw him in action, you could

8:22

go into every single thing that I

8:25

ever did. Was he a bad boy here? Was

8:27

he a bad boy there? By the

8:29

way, and nothing ever happened.

8:31

There was no anything,

8:33

nothing ever happened. This was a highly qualified lawyer.

8:35

Now I'm not allowed to use his name because

8:37

of the gag order. But he's

8:40

a sleazebag. Everybody knows that. Yeah,

8:44

I can't say anything bad about him because of the gag order.

8:46

That jerk. But anyway, that

8:49

obviously was Michael Cohen there. So you

8:51

probably saw yesterday. Did you see this?

8:53

There's a big story. The president was

8:55

found guilty of all 34 charges,

8:57

which was significant. The right is

8:59

saying it was inevitable. It was never going to go another way.

9:01

I thought it could very well

9:03

go the other way, but he was found

9:06

guilty and relatively quickly only took about nine

9:08

hours of deliberation for them to

9:10

come to that decision. When

9:13

Trump came out, he was a

9:15

shrunken man and said that he was very innocent.

9:17

And then that was it yesterday. So then

9:20

today as a press conference, he has to

9:22

collect himself and deal with the fact that

9:24

he's the first ever former president found guilty

9:26

of not only one felony, but literally dozens

9:29

of them. And what he

9:31

delivered, we gave you a little snippets

9:33

right there, was like the exact same

9:35

thing he's been saying the entire time. And

9:37

I said every step of the way,

9:40

the nonsense he's spewing is not a

9:42

defense against the charges. How could it

9:44

possibly save him? It didn't. So

9:47

saying the same things doesn't seem like

9:49

that's really gonna help you on appeal.

9:51

He kept saying things like, everybody

9:54

says there's no crime here. Yeah,

9:56

well, 12 people said there was a crime and

9:58

they are after all the most significant ones. He

10:00

kept talking about Alvin Bragg and the judge and Joe

10:03

Biden and all that. They weren't

10:05

on the jury. The jurors that your

10:07

lawyers helped to choose and we'll get

10:09

into that we're on the jury. And

10:12

so I know that it's mostly about kicking

10:14

dust up, kicking sand up, trying to obscure

10:16

things, trying to manage his image,

10:18

not for the appeal, but among his base. He

10:20

doesn't want to get replaced at the RNC or

10:22

whatever. And I don't see how that could possibly

10:24

happen. We'll get into more of how he's managing

10:26

this on social media. But Brett, I

10:28

gave my live reaction to these verdicts right after

10:30

they came. What do you make of this initially?

10:32

We're going to break down different aspects. What do

10:34

you think? I will just say

10:37

specifically about the part that you played the way

10:39

I experienced that press conference was on tech talk

10:41

this morning where I was, I would watch it.

10:43

It was the first thing served

10:45

up to me and it was live. And

10:47

it was him going Alvin Bragg, no one

10:49

like this guy didn't even like the case.

10:52

Alvin Bragg's terrible. I'm like, all right, that's it. And

10:54

then it's someone being like, here's how you repair your

10:56

front porch. And then I was like, all right, that's

10:58

cool. Next. And it goes back to him. And he's

11:01

like still Alvin Bragg's a bad guy. And

11:04

I would scroll and I get like three

11:06

tech talks and then Trump still going for

11:08

like 25 minutes. And

11:11

he would just say the same

11:13

thing. It was so pathetic. It

11:15

was the perfect montage of stupidity

11:17

and sadness and inanity. And you

11:19

realize that the only thing that

11:21

makes it feel official is that

11:23

he's in front of a bunch

11:25

of stage flags. Because this

11:27

is the same nonsense that he was

11:30

spewing in the hallways for weeks and

11:32

weeks. We just didn't take it as

11:34

seriously because he was in an echoey

11:36

hallway flanked by a bunch of neo

11:39

proto Nazi weirdos. Yep. Yeah.

11:41

100%. It was like you

11:44

have speech writers put together something

11:46

strong, like actually address the

11:48

charge. Like there's nothing.

11:50

There was nothing there. There was nothing

11:53

in his defense. That's why he lost.

11:56

And he's still trying to pull the wool

11:58

over eyes. Like maybe

12:01

the appeal will work and likely the sentence

12:03

won't land him in jail. We'll get to

12:05

the consequences and all that. But

12:08

look at what he's still posting as if this could

12:10

have an effect. My bookkeeper called

12:12

a legal expense on the tiny

12:15

description line of the capital ledger,

12:17

a legal expense. So is it

12:20

tiny? Because you're questioning that's

12:22

tiny. And what's the difference with

12:24

the size? That's not the issue. Openly paid

12:26

to my lawyer at that time, a fully

12:28

accredited one, blah, blah, blah. It was a

12:30

legal expense. That is the so called crime.

12:32

It's not so called. A jury found

12:34

that you had done it and it is a crime. It's

12:38

done. We're past that. He

12:40

might well walk free. He might well

12:42

be president, but he will always and

12:44

forever be a felon. Maybe

12:47

Hochul could pardon him. I don't expect

12:49

it to happen. So always and forever,

12:51

he will be. He brings up the

12:53

reliance on counsel defense, advice of counsel.

12:55

They could have put that forward. They didn't. They

12:58

didn't. That was not a brag thing that stopped him. It

13:00

wasn't a March on things stopped him. His

13:02

legal team decided not to do that. They're the ones that

13:05

didn't bring forward the witnesses. And again, we will get to

13:07

that. He talks about how NDAs

13:09

are standard and commonly used. Not

13:11

in these circumstances, something that is legal

13:14

in one circumstance can be illegal in

13:16

another. That's actually kind of how a lot of

13:18

this works. If this can happen

13:20

to me, it can happen to anyone.

13:23

And as we've always said, it always could

13:25

happen to anyone other than you. You were

13:27

the last one we were trying to find

13:29

out if it could happen to. No

13:32

one else is being pursued for this

13:34

because no one else is doing this.

13:36

It's just Trump. He is uniquely

13:38

criminal in that way. Now,

13:47

you wanna have a little bit of fun? Yes.

13:50

I wanna show you

13:52

maybe now my favorite image of

13:54

Trump ever. And I think

13:57

maybe the most important image of

13:59

Trump. that has ever been captured. It's

14:01

not a photo, in this case, it's

14:03

this. An image produced by the

14:06

courtroom sketch artist. And it shows at

14:08

least that sketch artist's version of

14:11

what Donald Trump was feeling as

14:13

he walked out of the courtroom after

14:15

being judged by a jury of his

14:17

peers. And truly making history,

14:20

he's made history before, he's

14:22

been impeached twice over. He's

14:25

done a lot of stuff that I think hopefully, has

14:28

never been done before and hopefully will never be done again.

14:31

But he will be 100 years from now, he'll

14:33

be in the history books because of

14:35

this. Because he was such a

14:38

willful and needless criminal

14:41

serial breaker of the

14:43

law that he wasn't able to

14:45

skate, okay? He finally got caught on one

14:47

of them. It remains to

14:49

be seen what the consequences will be, but the

14:52

artist Christine Cornell described him as looking

14:54

very demolished by it. He

14:56

really did. Apparently earlier, he

14:59

was feeling a little upbeat that we're all going to

15:01

be able to go home. So if

15:03

anyone was the most surprised there was a

15:05

verdict, it was him. And they showed this

15:07

image too, I think this is like the

15:09

anger that he was experiencing as all the

15:11

guilties were being listed. Apparently

15:13

he was shaking his head or whatever. New

15:16

reports from his team are coming out saying

15:18

they had kind of pinned all their hopes

15:20

on this one guy that they considered their

15:22

juror. And their juror's

15:24

body language throughout the case started

15:27

to trend away from what they wanted.

15:29

This is the guy, well, we think this is

15:31

the guy who said during the

15:33

initial jury selection process that the only

15:35

place he gets his news is

15:38

true social, the only

15:40

place. And he apparently

15:42

said, yeah, guilty on every one of

15:45

these. And thus, Donald

15:47

Trump, it's not a photo,

15:50

but it's real. It's real, it has to

15:52

be now becoming real for him that he

15:54

is a felon, that will be

15:56

the black mark on his record. What do you think, Brad? He

15:58

is always, always. just pressed

16:01

through it. Put his shoulder down and

16:04

hammered through it. And that's

16:06

with bankruptcies, with marketing, with

16:08

any adversity. When the Access

16:11

Hollywood tape comes out, he

16:14

realizes that every time he apologizes

16:16

or acts like a normal human being would act when

16:20

caught doing something horrible. He realizes

16:22

that all of the entire Republican

16:26

base, which is essentially sees

16:28

itself as a towel-cracking locker

16:31

room jock. They get

16:34

sad that he isn't this big

16:36

meanie anymore. And

16:38

so he just has been able to get

16:40

away with that as he makes his way

16:43

to the presidency, but he's not the

16:45

president anymore. And we've convicted politicians before

16:47

for stuff they've done that's illegal. Like

16:49

that has happened hundreds and hundreds, if

16:51

not thousands of times. The only difference

16:53

is this is a former president. But

16:55

the way that the legal process works,

16:58

they're not asking is Trump a good guy, is

17:00

Trump a bad guy? Should he be president? Should

17:02

he not be president? Do we think

17:05

he's a felonious type dude and just

17:07

holistically dub him as one? They were like,

17:09

here is the law. Here

17:12

are the tests. The judge even

17:14

said, even if

17:16

you believe Michael Cohen or don't believe

17:18

Michael Cohen, you can't just

17:20

go based on his former fixer

17:22

saying stuff. It has to be

17:25

corroborated by other evidence. Those things

17:27

are absolute like rip cords for

17:29

a juror who if they wanted

17:32

to exonerate Donald Trump, and

17:34

they never pulled them. This is not

17:36

something holistic. This is very specific is

17:39

here is a crime. Here's what

17:41

everyone says he did. Do you think he did it?

17:43

And we have 12 jurors for a

17:45

reason and only one needs to be a

17:47

holdout. None of them were. We

17:49

had 34 counts. He didn't need to be

17:51

convicted of all of them. But all

17:53

those jurors said he did all of those

17:55

things and he didn't murder anybody. He

17:58

falsified his tax records. He

18:00

committed business fraud, all

18:02

these Eliot Ness Al Capone

18:05

type things. But the fact

18:07

is he did get convicted of them. And is he

18:09

going to go to jail for the rest of his

18:11

life? No, at most four years. Yeah,

18:14

and this is how all

18:16

the justice system works. It's

18:18

something that they always selectively

18:21

sort of, always sort of get

18:23

behind. Yeah, they should, like

18:25

if you're a conservative, you should be cheering

18:28

for this. I know that's a stupid thing

18:30

to say, but you say there shouldn't be

18:32

multiple levels of the justice system. But you

18:34

question the elites, you question the establishment and

18:36

all that. Well now, finally,

18:38

a billionaire can go down. That should

18:41

be seen as a good thing. I'm

18:49

not going to be able to get to that. Maybe

18:51

it'll take some hindsight, we'll see. But anyway,

18:53

I want to dive into some of the stuff that we've been

18:55

alluding to. Criticisms of the defense, of

18:58

the way that the defense was put forward. And

19:00

by the way, we're gonna get to reactions. Obviously

19:02

right wing media is, they have thoughts about this.

19:05

You'll be shocked to find out. But let's jump

19:07

to one of Donald Trump's lawyers was making the

19:09

rounds in the media, sort of responding to this.

19:12

And doing a little bit of defense for Trump, but also

19:14

kind of like doing a little bit of defense for himself

19:16

and the legal team. So first of all,

19:18

he was asked if there are any regrets in

19:20

not having Donald Trump testified his own defense.

19:24

Why did Donald Trump not ultimately take the

19:26

stand here? Well

19:30

that's a very personal

19:33

question to him and to

19:35

me, honestly. And it's a

19:37

very difficult question. Of course

19:39

he wanted to testify. And I don't say

19:41

that because that's what he has said. He

19:44

wanted to get his story out. I think

19:46

the judge had made some decisions before

19:49

the trial, the day the trial started, about what

19:52

would be allowed to be asked of him by

19:54

the prosecutors if he took the stand. And some

19:56

of those questions were

19:58

really complicated. answer because there's

20:00

still appeals going on. And so there's

20:03

a lot of decision points that

20:06

go into whether somebody testifies. Ultimately, it's

20:08

his decision and he listened

20:10

to us and he relied on our

20:12

counsel and he reached the

20:15

decision that he thought was right, which I

20:17

very much agreed with. Yeah,

20:20

that's part of the, that's a spin on the

20:22

reason. The questions that are very difficult to answer,

20:24

yeah, because he's committed a lot of crimes and

20:26

he could be asked about it. He's done a

20:28

lot of terrible things and he could be asked

20:30

about those. He has lived exactly the sort of

20:32

life that you would not want to live if

20:35

you were ever gonna end up on the stand

20:37

being asked about who you are and what you've

20:39

done. I think that's largely it.

20:41

Saying he wants to testify, sure, I

20:43

guess he likes fighting. He didn't

20:45

wanna be anywhere near that stand. He was utterly

20:47

terrified of the questions that they would ask him about

20:50

his life, about the incident, about him

20:52

as an operator of the Trump organization,

20:55

about the other, he mentioned the appeals,

20:57

about E. Jean Carroll and about the

20:59

other fraud case in New York.

21:02

This is obviously the historic set

21:04

of charges because they're felony criminal

21:06

charges. But he's already gone down

21:08

multiple times in courts

21:11

in New York because he's a serial

21:13

criminal. And before we discuss, I

21:15

wanna get to a little bit more of how

21:17

Donald Trump had a direct impact on the defense.

21:19

And it gets to sort of how they chose

21:21

jurors, the jurors that eventually end up convicting him.

21:25

Who ultimately was in charge

21:27

of the defense strategy here? Was it you or

21:29

was it Donald Trump? It

21:32

was both of us. If there's a lawyer

21:34

that comes in and says that they're in charge of their

21:36

defense strategy, they're not doing a service to their client. Every

21:38

decision that we made, we made as

21:40

a team and not just President Trump and myself, but

21:42

the whole team. Were you satisfied

21:44

with jury selection? And was

21:46

the former president involved in that in any way? I

21:49

mean, very much involved. He

21:52

was right there with the

21:54

whole team talking about the potential jurors. Look,

21:56

was I satisfied? We put a motion in

21:58

because we said we could not get a

22:00

fair jury in Manhattan. And that's

22:02

not a, I'm not being disparaging to the jurors, man,

22:04

they were great. They showed up on time every day.

22:07

They were committed, they paid attention. But

22:10

we're in a situation where we had a very

22:14

limited number of people we could strike. And

22:17

most of the folks, overwhelming number of

22:19

folks, had a very strong opinion of President

22:21

Trump. And it wasn't

22:23

positive. Maybe

22:26

that has something to do with Donald Trump and what he's done. Yeah, to

22:28

be clear, when you complain that

22:30

the jury reached this verdict as the

22:32

right wing is doing, he helped

22:35

take it, okay? Now, obviously,

22:37

it's people in New York.

22:39

Again, I know the idea that you get tried in the

22:41

area where he committed the crimes all of a sudden a

22:43

mystery to the right, but he helped

22:46

to choose these people. He made

22:48

some decisions. He thought he had a strategy.

22:50

He was proved to be wrong. And that

22:52

goes to jury selection. That goes to him

22:54

not testifying. That goes to them really not

22:56

bringing forward more than two witnesses. Them

22:59

really not putting forward an articulation of

23:01

an actual defense rather than relying entirely

23:04

on criticizing Michael Cohen. It

23:06

gets to the fact that, and

23:08

I listen to a

23:10

great breakdown of this on the daily

23:12

earlier today, that very often in a

23:15

defense like this, you will acknowledge the

23:17

failings of your client. You

23:19

will attempt to humanize them, be willing to

23:21

give a couple of inches to get

23:23

the jury on your side. That's Trump. So

23:26

they couldn't do that. Trump was not gonna have Todd Blanchego

23:28

before jury and acknowledge that he'd done terrible things but it

23:30

doesn't rise to the level of a crime. In

23:33

every one of these areas, his own

23:35

personal failings, his own desperate needs, hamstrung

23:38

the ability of his defense to actually protect

23:40

him. Right, what do you think? I

23:43

mean, it sounds to me

23:46

like Donald Trump was

23:49

such a weak loser that he got pushed

23:51

around by his lawyer who told

23:55

him not to testify or Donald

23:57

Trump is too afraid to testify.

24:00

Or Donald Trump and his lawyer,

24:03

Donald Trump's

24:05

lying all the time.

24:09

And even those pathological liars,

24:11

no, you can't really do that in a

24:14

court of law. And

24:17

that's the boundary and the price of

24:20

his political immortality. Once

24:23

he gets into that room, once he crosses

24:25

the great seal of the great

24:27

state of New York, he is now susceptible

24:30

to dying politically,

24:33

and he did,

24:35

he did. And

24:37

this is where the rubber meets the road. This

24:39

is all anyone has left. And no one, I

24:42

mean, yes, there's a part of me that's

24:44

like, yeah, it's hilarious. And I think everyone has that in

24:46

them, everyone who doesn't think this is

24:48

hilarious, and then Trump lost in this

24:50

specific way. They're lying to

24:52

themselves. They're like, I'm going to go

24:54

to protect my role boy. No, it's

24:56

hilarious. It's just like no

24:59

one really actually wants this to

25:01

be how America goes. Even

25:03

the people who just got Trump convicted.

25:07

And the last thing is his lawyer saying

25:09

like, you know, there were a lot of

25:11

people who were against Donald Trump. They had

25:13

a lot of strong feelings about Donald Trump.

25:15

I will remind you, only one

25:17

of them needed to have strong feelings

25:19

in support of Donald Trump. Yep,

25:22

and he would be found not

25:24

guilty. He got those kinds

25:26

of breaks when it came to

25:28

impeaching him. There were a bunch

25:31

of lackeys who saw what

25:33

was on the table and decided, no,

25:35

I can go with my allegiances instead

25:37

of my conscience. That was the Senate

25:39

and they get to do that. But in a court

25:41

of law, people get to

25:44

do whatever they want. But the jury actually

25:46

followed the rules that keep the fabric of

25:48

the justice system sewn

25:51

together. Yeah, yeah,

25:53

yeah, for once he didn't have a

25:55

lackey. Yeah. And he didn't

25:57

have a lackey. Isn't that lackey? Just like Michael

25:59

Cohen. And that person who gets

26:02

their news from Truth Social turned on them

26:04

because they were like, ah, even

26:06

I can't go along with this. Okay,

26:10

we're going to take a short break. We come

26:12

back, we're going to get to how people are

26:14

responding to this and what might happen as a

26:16

result of this verdict. More on this after that.

26:24

Okay, everyone. Let's get into how everyone

26:26

is processing these historic times we've entered

26:28

into. Donald Trump's

26:30

family not responding well in general to

26:33

him being found guilty of more than

26:35

30 felonies. But

26:37

the response is about the same across

26:40

the family and there are some notable

26:42

silences. Let's start with those who will

26:44

never ever take the opportunity to be

26:46

silent like Don Jr. who says such

26:48

BS and then guilty on all

26:50

counts. The Democrats have succeeded in their years

26:52

long attempt to turn America to a third

26:55

world as all. November 5th

26:57

is our last chance to save it. Sentencing

26:59

is four days before the GOP convention.

27:02

They're not even trying to hide the

27:04

election interference. It is

27:06

four days before the RNC

27:08

and I don't like that. I think it should

27:11

be earlier so that the Republicans

27:13

have more time to potentially choose a different

27:15

candidate. I do want you to bear in

27:17

mind that Todd Blanchard requested that time mid

27:20

to late. He wanted it potentially to

27:22

be after the RNC. So again,

27:24

Don Jr. leaving out that this was

27:26

the official position of the Trump legal

27:28

team. So he's angry, obviously,

27:31

and he's swearing. He tweeted literally dozens of

27:33

times. You have to be

27:35

on a powerful stimulant to have the energy to engage

27:37

with social media that much. But

27:39

anyway, Eric Trump says May 30th might be

27:42

remembered as the day Donald J Trump won

27:44

the 2024 presidential election. Which

27:46

sounds like the sort of joke that a lib

27:49

would write on Twitter. He means it

27:51

though. He means it. He's

27:53

doing his best. Now, none of those reactions

27:55

matter to Donald Trump. He doesn't care about Don

27:57

Jr. or Eric. He does care about a vote.

28:00

and she posted on Snapchat

28:02

this image of

28:04

her and Trump. And it

28:06

says, I love you, dad. And that's sweet. It's

28:09

an image of her as a kid. And I

28:12

like that it's a still image. It's not a

28:14

video and there's no audio. So there's no opportunity

28:16

for Donald Trump to say something about how someday

28:18

he's going to want to sleep

28:20

with her. And I love this format. But

28:23

notably, before we discuss, no

28:25

reaction from Melania, who potentially could

28:28

have a reaction to have

28:30

her husband go to jail for four

28:32

years. Now she's obviously not obligated, maybe she's grieving

28:34

or something. She's not obligated to write anything, but

28:37

she didn't. Much of the family did, but

28:39

not her. What do you make of this, Brett? She

28:42

really doesn't care, does he? Like

28:46

Melania doesn't care, we can slap

28:48

his hand away a bunch. It's

28:51

gotta be so weird. Ivanka

28:53

has very actively avoided participating

28:55

in Trump's reelection campaign. So

28:57

for, and I'm sure it's got

28:59

to anger Donald Trump quite a

29:02

bit. Because he has people like

29:04

Eric go up and be like,

29:06

we're right. We're white. We're taking

29:08

a big bite. Like he's disgusting

29:10

and gross and an idiot. Like

29:12

so aesthetically, actively an idiot. And

29:15

the glistening weird coconut smoke

29:17

skin of Don Jr. Is

29:20

wildly embarrassing on all fronts as well. What

29:22

is he gonna have? Guilfoyle go out there

29:24

and yell, we'll never go hungry again. Like

29:27

the people who are defending, at least he

29:29

got a I love you dad from

29:32

Ivanka. Is

29:35

that a Lion King reference? I

29:37

don't remember what that's from, but I don't know which

29:40

the best is yet to come. Yes,

29:43

where's the beef? I

29:45

don't remember what she said, but it was good, it was powerful. Powerful.

29:49

Anyway, yeah, look, they're

29:51

gonna process it. We have to

29:54

remember, they are against all evidence,

29:57

still humans, and

29:59

they appear. have affection for

30:01

their father. I don't understand how that

30:03

could be, but they appear to.

30:05

And so this is a hard day for them.

30:08

I have a spectrum of how much I

30:11

care about them potentially having a

30:13

hard day. And Eric and Don Jr

30:15

are at one end. But

30:17

think about Baron. He doesn't seem

30:19

to have been as mistreated by Donald Trump. We

30:22

don't know how many minutes he's actually spent with Donald

30:25

Trump during his life. But this is going

30:27

to be a rough day for him and we should bear that

30:30

in the end. Obviously a lot of people are going to delight

30:32

in the verdict. I understand why Trump is terrible. He's a plague

30:34

on the nation. It is still rough

30:36

for some of the people in his family. And

30:39

not just on them. Right wing media

30:41

has kind of been going through a lot

30:43

since the verdict came down. Here is just

30:45

a brief sampling of what that's looked like.

30:49

Donald Trump is the strongest man I

30:51

have ever met. There is

30:53

no one who can withstand what this

30:55

man has withstood. And I've known him

30:57

for 40 years. He will

30:59

fight the fight until the end.

31:01

Prosecutors shouldn't care about the politics.

31:03

You don't go after people, you

31:05

go after crime. This new era

31:08

of so-called progressive prosecutors, there's nothing

31:10

progressive about them. We are a

31:12

country that was born of

31:14

revolution. Revolution is in our

31:16

DNA. We are fighters. And I hope

31:18

it's only at the ballot box. Don't

31:20

get me wrong. But I

31:22

am, my insides are so

31:24

angry because this was not

31:27

a case. And these nit-nits,

31:29

consumed with hatred, are

31:32

trying to destroy a man because he

31:34

threatens their power. The Democrats say Trump's

31:36

never gonna leave office. If he's elected,

31:38

he's never gonna leave office. Well, what

31:40

does it look like tonight, Newt, that

31:43

Biden never will leave office? These

31:45

are wicked people obsessed

31:48

with a person. And

31:51

we will seek justice. How can you

31:53

not conclude that this entire thing is

31:55

rigged? This is the ultimate. In terms

31:57

of election interference, this is. the

32:00

real election interference? I

32:03

just want to briefly remind everyone, not that

32:05

anybody cares, that at its

32:07

heart, philosophically, this case was about Donald

32:10

Trump committing election interference in

32:12

2016. It's pointless, why

32:14

point it out? But that was a

32:16

good sampling of some of the kind

32:18

of brewing threats that are more explicit

32:20

on social media, and

32:22

we'll get to those. But a

32:24

lot of them continuing to mislead their

32:26

audience into thinking that there wasn't evidence

32:28

or there wasn't a crime or that

32:30

Biden had anything to do with this,

32:33

or that Biden's not going to leave

32:35

office, Biden might not leave 2025, okay?

32:37

This has nothing to do with Joe

32:39

Biden. And by the way, they could

32:42

have a case, they could rhetorically make

32:44

the case that they don't think these things

32:46

should be crimes. You can say that, you

32:49

can say that this is kind of

32:51

like a weird thing that New

32:53

York has on the books. I want to see it

32:55

challenged, it shouldn't be against the

32:57

law. But it is against the law, and so

32:59

much of their commentary about this has

33:02

been denying reality. And look, they're

33:04

playing to their base,

33:06

they're trying to look strong, like lying about

33:08

Trump being durable or venerable or

33:11

whatever. But what I'm worried about is

33:13

all the people listening to that, because they've been lied

33:15

to for five weeks saying that there's

33:17

no case and there's no evidence when there

33:20

is. And now they're shocked that this happened

33:22

or whatever. And so I don't know exactly

33:24

what they're going to do. And we'll get

33:27

to the possibility of

33:29

violence, but what do you think about some of what's been out there

33:32

in right-wing media, Brett? Well, they just don't have

33:35

anything good to say, so they call the other side evil.

33:38

They have no arguments, they have no evidence, they

33:40

have no fact pattern to examine, they

33:42

have nothing. So they're just

33:44

like, these are wicked, wicked people. They're

33:47

evil, why are they evil? They hate

33:49

him. What makes you say

33:51

that? Well, he was convicted by 12 people,

33:54

same as everyone else who's been convicted.

33:56

Oh, wait, I can't say that. They're

33:59

evil. That's it. Just

34:01

in there's just so pathetic. It's so sad. How

34:03

can you not say it's rigged? Well

34:05

a jury of his peers Convicted

34:08

him in the court of law on 34

34:12

counts That's how I can

34:14

say it's not rigged Like

34:16

someone said they got their news

34:19

from truth social only that is

34:21

a big Like

34:23

ally sign for you guys and that dude

34:25

was like, oh man I don't have anything

34:28

to say and I really think that dynamic

34:31

Exposes a lot of the problem because

34:33

that truth social person until he got

34:35

into a court of law Where

34:38

someone's like that makes sense to share this doesn't

34:40

make sense to share like here are the things

34:42

that are biased Here are the things that are

34:44

just evidence That's what the procedure of the judge

34:46

is all about that happened No one's really arguing

34:48

that he kept stuff out that should be in

34:52

The person who was insulated in the

34:54

truth social bubble and the

34:56

Fox News bubble was all about All

34:58

they'd heard was how great Donald Trump

35:01

wasn't how ridiculous this was But when

35:03

they got out of that bubble and

35:05

put into the you know, biodome of

35:07

jury sequester They saw

35:09

with all the other different people in there

35:11

and they saw the evidence They were able

35:14

to very easily and quickly conclude. Oh, no,

35:16

he's a criminal. Yeah That's

35:19

fascinating to me yeah,

35:21

well and Again,

35:24

like I I feel for some ice I see people

35:26

saying that like their family's losing it or whatever in

35:28

the chat Because they've been lied

35:30

to they've been lied to over and over and over

35:32

again So they're not prepared for what happened or

35:35

they're prepared in a particular way Some of

35:37

them have been told he's gonna be convicted

35:39

But they have been shielded from why he

35:42

is going to be convicted They've had a

35:44

fantasy spun in its place and

35:46

I am worried about the consequences of that The

35:48

right-wing reaction to Donald Trump being found

35:51

guilty on 34 counts has often been

35:54

Conspiratorial and all that but it's when

35:56

it gets into the sort of thing that could

35:58

theoretically inspire people to do something That's

36:00

when I have the biggest problem with it. And there's grades

36:02

of that as well. You have things

36:05

like Marjorie Greene posting the flag. And that's

36:07

not even I don't think how you're supposed

36:09

to put the flag upside down. The blue

36:11

is still supposed to be on the left

36:13

side. She doesn't know what she's doing, which

36:15

AOC pointed out saying, who did you learn

36:17

that from Samuel Alito, which

36:19

I appreciated. Although as

36:21

I think Jules pointed out on Twitter,

36:23

no Samuel Alito is actually very sad

36:26

today. He's flying his swastika at half

36:28

mast. But anyway, so look,

36:30

you can take the upside down flag as a commentary

36:33

on Alito or this is a crisis. Maybe

36:36

you need to storm the Capitol. So I'm

36:38

a little bit worried about that. But you

36:40

have like Jesse Waters saying that he's going

36:42

to help vanquish the evil forces that are

36:44

destroying this republic. That's the sort of like,

36:46

that's insane talk. Or Tucker

36:49

Carlson saying that this is a threat to your

36:51

family. It's the sort of thing he says to

36:53

inspire people to think, well, you're threatening my family,

36:55

I should do something about it. Steve

36:57

Bannon saying they're trying to destroy you or

37:00

Megyn Kelly saying now they need a taste

37:02

of their own medicine. And all of them

37:04

are being at least a little

37:06

bit careful, okay? They're not going

37:09

too far. They have TV contracts and everything.

37:12

Like Charlie Kirk is on Twitter saying we

37:14

must defeat these savages. They said

37:16

they executed a legal assassination. It

37:19

wasn't a legal assassination. And even if it was,

37:21

Biden would have absolute immunity, according to them.

37:25

Jack Tasa Biech says they're

37:27

unhumans that did this. Tim

37:30

Pool just tweeted war. It's

37:33

a man of few words, Tim Pool. Anyway,

37:35

patriots.win, it's a place far writers go online

37:37

saying they're not going to get a civil

37:39

war. It's going to be a very uncivil

37:42

war, you get it? The

37:44

opposite of a civil war. Stu

37:46

Peters, who we talked about recently, he's a far-right

37:48

podcaster, says we are left with no other option

37:51

than to take matters into our own

37:53

hands, which is just

37:55

great. This dude,

37:57

right-wing podcaster, hosted today. was

38:00

our George Floyd moment

38:03

with Trump with cornrows. Now

38:05

that is a joke, to

38:07

be fair. And the way you should know it

38:09

is a joke, obviously they're joking that these two

38:11

things are equally bad. It has to be a

38:13

joke because they don't think what happened to George

38:15

Floyd was that bad. But

38:17

anyway, then you have like end

38:19

wokeness saying America's past Aruba Khan.

38:22

And I love Cody Johnston

38:25

pointed out on social media how

38:27

often the right has taken to

38:29

invoking that particular language. Again, passing

38:31

the Rubicon means you're moving into an era

38:33

where your democracy has died or whatever and

38:36

now anything goes. So in

38:38

Miles Chong, this like online commenter that's like

38:40

cozy up the far right, he was one

38:42

of the ones who also said that the

38:44

Rubicon has been crossed. But

38:46

then Cody Johnston pointed out all the times

38:48

he himself, that guy has said it on

38:50

August 8th, the Rubicon was crossed on April

38:52

20, 2022, it was crossed January 2021, it

38:54

was crossed November 2020, it was crossed.

38:59

Like how many, are they crossing it or

39:01

are they just swimming in it going from one

39:04

bank to another? No, this

39:06

is not a Rubicon. This is Donald

39:08

Trump being found guilty of crimes that we all

39:10

know he did. It is unprecedented

39:13

that Donald Trump got to be president in

39:15

the first place, that someone would be this

39:18

awful. But having justice shouldn't be

39:20

unprecedented. We should be used to that. I like

39:22

the idea that we could grow used to that.

39:24

But again, I am worried about this sort of

39:26

rhetoric. We know something like one

39:28

out of three Republicans say that American patriots

39:30

may have to resort to violence in order

39:33

to save the country. That was

39:35

last year. That number is undoubtedly

39:37

higher now. So watch yourself.

39:39

What do you think? I

39:43

will say, yeah, it's really stupid. But I will

39:45

say maybe Ian Miles Chong just like have having

39:47

crossed the Rubicon because he realized, I forgot my

39:49

keys. I gotta go back. Oh,

39:52

I gotta get sunglasses. Yeah, it's

39:54

tough because it's the Rubicon after

39:56

all. I know. It's like the

39:58

Rubik's Cube of I don't

40:00

know. And

40:02

there's no going back. You guys, you've

40:05

gone back a lot, or you're just

40:07

sitting in the middle of the Rubicon.

40:09

I love that when he says that

40:11

today is George Floyd's moment. Trump

40:13

doesn't look hard with cornrows. He looks like he just got

40:15

back from a cruise. Definitely. Trump

40:18

has big sandals energy. I

40:21

tried my hand with some AI for Trump. I

40:27

made a little of this. He's really

40:29

sad. I

40:31

tried some others. I think

40:33

it's this one. Oh,

40:36

he's gross. Why is

40:38

he so oily? I wrote

40:40

dirty. I wrote dirty. I spent

40:42

$10 a month on this service. Is

40:46

that Stormy Daniels in the background? Yeah, I

40:48

had to use another one that I made.

40:50

I had to bring her in from another

40:52

AI and it's a guilty Harley Quinn there,

40:55

I think. Yeah, it's

40:57

so weird. So weird, and that

40:59

was generated with AI software. Thank

41:01

you. AI changing the world. No,

41:09

we're going to figure out if it was Eve six

41:12

or stone temple pilots where we've got our best AI

41:14

on the job. Anyway, it apparently was not a couple

41:16

of times. How dare you, Brett? It's just Vegas. Okay,

41:18

with that said, we're fitting in two things, Brett. Really

41:21

fast. Let's talk about one of the most important things

41:23

this year. Donald

41:25

Trump's guilty. We all know that. But

41:27

now we look forward to what effect

41:29

this will have because as both Trump

41:31

and Biden say, November 5th is when

41:33

this thing is going to really be

41:36

determined. Will he become president again? He's

41:38

still very well good. In

41:40

fact, there's some evidence that it might be

41:42

more likely now. The Trump campaign says that

41:44

in just the hours since the guilty verdicts,

41:47

he raised $35 million, which

41:51

is admittedly a lot of money. And

41:54

admittedly is very worrying that so many people

41:56

would see him being found guilty of dozens

41:59

of felonies and say I wanna give him

42:01

my last 50 bucks. I don't get it,

42:03

but people are doing it. Now,

42:05

there is a theory out there that

42:07

being found guilty will hurt him. I

42:10

once heard there is no way that the

42:12

American people are gonna vote for a convicted

42:14

criminal. And that was said in February

42:16

of this year by Nikki Haley. Of

42:19

course, she says she's gonna vote for him.

42:21

So maybe it was a bad theory

42:23

from the beginning. Now the evidence is mixed

42:25

on this. According to a PBS NewsHour NPR

42:28

Marist Poll, two in three registered US

42:30

voters say that a guilty verdict would have

42:32

no effect on their vote plan, including

42:34

three out of four independents. However, I did

42:36

the math and that says that for one

42:39

out of four independents, it will have

42:41

an effect on them and that is still

42:43

millions of people. 25%

42:45

of Republicans said they'd be even more likely to

42:47

vote for Trump if he was found guilty by a

42:50

jury. Great, I love that for you. 27% of

42:53

Democrats said it'd be less likely to vote for him.

42:55

That seems weird that that's not higher. But

42:58

the most important part is the

43:00

narrow sliver of Republicans, one in 10. And

43:02

the 11% of voters who are independent who

43:04

say they'd be less likely to vote for

43:06

Trump if he was guilty. Now, that is

43:08

not a lot of people as

43:10

a percentage, but it's still millions

43:13

of people. And if the election is close,

43:15

this could well be the thing that swings

43:17

it. Brett, what do you think? We're

43:20

so much better than this. No, we're

43:22

this bad. No, America's so much better

43:24

than an 85 year

43:27

old. And you just still don't know who

43:29

I'm talking about yet. Like the two 85

43:33

year old, like various

43:35

shells, like Joe

43:37

Biden is the ultimate like silent

43:40

generation or he's in good shape.

43:42

He loves his country. He

43:44

kind of fallen apart.

43:48

And he was really for locking like everybody

43:50

up to keep the

43:52

streets safe from people, even though that

43:54

didn't really have an effect on anything.

43:56

So that was him. And then

43:58

Donald Trump is like. In Ayn

44:00

Rand, there's this character who has

44:03

this gorgeous symbol of capitalism, and

44:05

he's got this big orange hair.

44:08

And this is the grotesque

44:10

actuality of that. This

44:13

is the John Galt Howard Rourke. I forget

44:15

which one of the orange hair. John

44:17

Galt with the big. It's

44:21

like if John Galt got dropped into

44:23

toxic waste and just started bloating and

44:25

melting, and he goes

44:27

to, he got convicted of

44:30

weird sex tape crime basic

44:32

things, coupled with fraud.

44:35

Technical terms. And then we've got an

44:37

independent who's like a legacy case for

44:39

Kennedy's who had a brainworm eat half

44:41

his skull out. Like what is

44:44

happening to America? We used

44:46

to be this ridiculous archetype

44:48

of bravery and strength and

44:50

brawn and ingenuity and go

44:52

into the moon stuff. And

44:54

now we're just grotesque absurdities

44:56

fighting against each other while

44:58

we all go like how

45:00

are these my only options?

45:06

I once was brainstorming a novel

45:08

where the world was a massive

45:11

mythical creature that had died, had been

45:13

killed by those who lived on it,

45:15

and was now rotting. And so humanity

45:17

was trying to survive on the rotting

45:20

corpse of its earth. That's great. And

45:22

then I realized that's too on the

45:24

nose. I feel like that's what's happening.

45:26

We've gone mad from

45:28

the rotting fumes and lead

45:30

paint of the world we've created with

45:32

our media and with our campaign finance

45:35

laws. And we've come to a weird

45:37

place. I have high hopes for 2028,

45:39

okay? Stay tuned, everyone.

45:42

But we're in wild times. Look,

45:45

these numbers make me a little bit pessimistic, but there are

45:47

still some people who will be affected by this. And

45:49

in some of these swing states that might come

45:51

down to 10,000 votes, a lot

45:54

of things could swing that. This seems, I

45:56

think, as likely as any to potentially swing

45:58

50,000. votes

46:01

in Georgia or something. But

46:03

remember, you still gotta go and

46:05

vote. You still gotta organize. You still gotta keep

46:07

active. And thank you to everybody watching this because

46:09

you are. Okay, with that

46:11

said, let's jump to our one

46:14

non-trial related story with this. I

46:17

still can't believe this beautiful girl is

46:19

ours. Our little IVF miracle. Sorry,

46:24

she's not yours anymore. What are

46:26

you talking about? Who are you?

46:28

I'm your Republican congressman. We made

46:30

IVF illegal. And we're

46:33

not letting you criminals raise her. She's

46:37

our baby. I won the last

46:39

election. So it's my decision. If

46:41

you want a baby, you have

46:43

to make one the old fashioned way. And

46:46

I'll be watching. Okay,

46:49

so that's a very rough ad in a variety

46:51

of different ways. Obviously, the stakes that are alluded

46:53

to in that are real. There have been many

46:55

Republicans either trying to or advocating for the end

46:57

of IVF and people who have used it or

47:00

who plan to use it are rightly horrified at

47:02

the prospect. And hearing the baby crying in the

47:04

background triggers me because I experienced

47:06

that on a nightly basis. That

47:08

is an ad being put forth by Democratic Super

47:10

PAC, the Progress Action Fund. They're going to be

47:13

running it in Arizona. They're putting about a quarter

47:15

million dollars into it. And

47:17

it's powerful. It is

47:19

interesting though, Brett. I wonder what you think about this.

47:21

I feel like there's this genre of

47:24

ad of creepy Republican

47:26

guy in suit in people's bedrooms. And

47:29

I almost feel like it's time for you to

47:31

do a parody of it. It feels ripe for

47:33

that. Like they're always the creepy guy. I feel

47:35

like it's the same actor who's always ready to

47:38

like take your condom or take your baby. And

47:40

it triggers like a particular disgust. I

47:43

get why people do it. And

47:45

it's powerful. But what do you make of this genre? Uh,

47:48

I wow, what a roller coaster that ad

47:50

was for me personally, because it was like,

47:52

oh, there's a cute baby and oh, this

47:54

guy's stealing it. He's evil. That's terrible. How

47:56

invasive. And he's like, I'm going to watch

47:59

you guys bang. And I'm like, you got me back.

48:02

That sounds hot. But

48:06

that really is I love this approach. This

48:09

is the actual valid approach

48:11

to just say like, this is what they're

48:13

doing the party of freedom, so to speak,

48:15

is they'll have you believe they actually just

48:17

want to be in charge of every single

48:19

aspect of your sex life while

48:22

telling you that

48:24

you're the pervert.

48:26

That's it. Yeah, no, you're

48:28

definitely right. And that's why

48:31

I think these ads can be effective for

48:33

inspiring people. Nobody wants what

48:35

is described in that ad, not literally

48:37

necessarily, but nobody wants effectively these incredibly

48:39

personal and private and very difficult decisions

48:42

to be determined not by you and

48:44

your family or your doctor, but by

48:46

some state legislator who's like just taking

48:49

these positions so they can become a

48:51

congressman or senator someday. Like

48:54

anybody who is considering IVF

48:56

has been through a lot

48:59

at this point, okay? They're

49:01

desperate. It's incredibly expensive. It's

49:03

arduous. And yes, there are

49:05

states that have already tried to ban it. And there

49:08

are people at the national level talking about taking away

49:10

those rights. And so you know what? The right may

49:12

cry foul at these sorts of ads. And

49:15

there are some Republicans doing the right thing. Ted

49:17

Cruz, Katie Britt, creepy woman, Scarlett

49:19

Johansson. They're trying to now protect

49:22

IVF. And it's wise of them to come out

49:24

against this. But the reason they need to do

49:26

that is again, because of people in their party

49:28

who are in fact advocating for these rights to

49:30

be taken away. Super quick final point?

49:33

Super quick final point is they're

49:36

absolute grossy menosies. And I think it's

49:38

positively hilarious. And also, these are the

49:40

guys that tell us we need to

49:42

have more kids. People with IVF have

49:45

quadruplets. So which is it? Exactly.

49:47

Now go make that parody ad.

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