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Hamlin posted a message of his own. He thanked

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He's all pumped in see, the

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league has just gone crazy. A

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moment of support in all the early

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games. They got the three painted

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on the field. The pregame

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shirts, the three patches for the bills.

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Someone's making a lot of money on this.

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Someone probably Who's this teacher guy?

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This a little too much? Well, it's

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a little out of control. When it when it comes from the

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turned their threes into bills. Now that's

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all performative. What you're doing is,

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you know, if you really cared about the players, you

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maybe guaranteed guaranty contracts

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guaranteed. It also make them retire

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after five years in the league so they wouldn't

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damage their brains or or

2:14

the pension ever be vested a little bit early,

2:16

so it's all performing. It makes people feel better.

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I'm glad Lamar is is doing better. I'm

2:20

glad that he's tweeting and god. Didn't

2:22

mean so much when the bills ran back the opening

2:24

kickoff. It was like a story book. They did it for

2:26

Demar. But what I don't like, does

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the trainer really need to go into the NFL

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Hall of Fame? Who started that?

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Fuck ing idiot. Why do people? There's

2:36

always too many people talk. God, Damn it.

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I hate people having a voice. I wanna find

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everybody who signs that petition and ask them three

2:42

weeks from now what the trainer's name is. They're

2:45

just honestly listening. What's the trainer's name? I

2:47

don't even know what his name is. It's Frank

2:49

somebody.

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Okay. Cool. It's enough. Danny Kellington.

2:52

I'm sorry. Frank. So You can't

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get in close. Frank somebody. He

2:56

got the guy he got a game ball today

2:58

because it and I gotta say it was really

3:00

cool watching the bills return that opening kickoff,

3:02

that places go but nam No. That's cool. That's

3:05

awesome. And then, like, that happens. They returned

3:07

another kickoff and the the guy gave

3:09

the ball to the trainer, Frank, somebody. Oh,

3:11

that's great. What about the ambulance driver? Why doesn't

3:13

he get a ball? Let's get the first ball. Shouldn't he

3:15

be in the NASCAR hall of fame? Thanks.

3:19

Stupid. You may make a train Like the NFL

3:21

like the NFL wants to put a segment in

3:23

their whole thing that reminds everybody how

3:25

brutally aggressive this game

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is. I saw a

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CBS this morning, and they show you

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how easy is to just grab one at the airport

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and just start defibrillating people who are having

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strokes. Alright? 8. Do we want everybody

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operating defibrillators really? That's

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because that piece Oh, we don't. Yeah. We do because that

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piece pointed out that the machine will

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check the heart rate before it shocks some

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people. What if somebody goes I'm pretty

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sure this cat heart attack, and just start

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zapping people. Why not? What if somebody just

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fainted? They're just a little, you know Oh, go to wake

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up. Go ahead. Really come up. Gonna

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be going. Is it okay to defibrillating people that

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don't need defibrillating? 8. Why not?

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Big brother. No. I mean, can that cause any harm

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they didn't even mention? I would get so too.

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I don't want people. I don't want everyone

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knowing how to defibrillate people, but not knowing

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when they should be defibrillated. But basically,

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that machine just does everything itself. You

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press one button. Oh, are you

4:20

telling me some Yahoo at the airport could

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not fuck up a defibrillation? Oh,

4:24

that's a great question. Unless you're

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telling somebody who just is

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feeling weak and faint and just passes

4:31

out. Or they're asleep. Oh my god.

4:33

This person can't be asleep where they wake up right

4:35

now to fibrillate them. He should.

4:37

That's great. And

4:39

we're 8 to know how he surveillance

4:41

video. If Frank somebody gets

4:43

in the hall of fame, what's gonna happen is

4:45

people aren't gonna fight over who gets to use the defibrillator

4:48

in the airport on somebody so they

4:50

can be the hero. Well, that's the

4:52

other dangerous part seeing what heroes he's

4:54

people are not everybody's gonna wanna be a hero.

4:56

It's gonna be defibrillation nation.

5:01

Defibrillation nation. We're

5:03

gonna see those machines everywhere. And we probably should.

5:06

Right? I

5:08

guess, I don't know. I feel like there's

5:10

got the this can't be that easy.

5:12

To just know when to defibrillate people

5:14

and just do it. For anybody, do

5:17

you want anyone defibrillating 8? No.

5:20

I mean, the machine like I said, the machine knows it.

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Okay. Well, let's let's troubleshoot out to fibrillate

5:24

you one of these days. Make sure how great it

5:26

is.

5:26

Pretty honest. When I did, like, the the

5:28

CPR training, they made me do the defibrillator

5:31

trainings. I can do it. I

5:33

can do it. I could shock anybody

5:35

too. Well, let's just find someone who's sick and we'll

5:37

have you standing by. I'd rather Drew

5:39

shock me. Meanwhile,

5:41

just This has gotta be the

5:43

worst week for the cult. I can remember it a

5:45

long time. Harbaugh is talking

5:47

about jobs again, NC double

5:49

a says Harbaugh's liar and a

5:51

cheater. Hunter Dickinson is

5:54

talking shit to MSU

5:56

Wisconsin. He calls or

5:58

somebody called Hitler or

6:00

Izzo Hitler, and he

6:02

apologized. And what did he what do you apologize?

6:04

Yeah. I just do distance himself.

6:07

And then they lose the game. Fifty

6:09

seven fifty three was a pretty good game.

6:11

It got close at the end. And Harbaugh

6:13

is everywhere doing everything, cheating,

6:15

lying, losing, trying to get jobs, but

6:18

he's a terrible person. Why isn't he at the

6:20

Holocaust Museum is he going to the Holocaust

6:22

museum? He's got everything else. Forget about that.

6:24

He can look for jobs. He can just do

6:26

whatever he wants, but he doesn't seem to be in

6:28

any hurry to go to the Holocaust museum. Well,

6:30

he didn't tweet

6:30

it. Did Donovan Edwards go yet?

6:33

No. The whole team was going. Yeah. Right.

6:37

Sounds like another harbaugh whopper

6:40

And then today, CBS

6:42

had a story. I just seemed like kind of

6:44

a dick story. I mean, almost seemed

6:46

like an MSU person wrote story because it was about

6:48

how Harbaugh Panther's meeting. Initiated

6:51

by Harbaugh. Yeah.

6:53

Oh, SI had it actually. Was I can't

6:55

remember which one you guys talking to. I

6:57

kinda felt like this is the first time he's had an agent.

7:00

Right? I don't know if he knew that or not. That Harbaugh has

7:02

an agent now. He didn't the last two contracts. He's

7:04

probably blind when he said he didn't.

7:06

Well, I think this is a leverage thing to get

7:08

more money out of the university or a

7:10

better contract or something. But he he

7:12

and if the according to SI, the headlines,

7:14

Pethr's didn't initiate conversation with

7:16

Jim Harbor. Harbor or his

7:18

representation has been calling Panther

7:21

owner David Tepper regularly for weeks. It

7:23

sounds like they're burning his Bona. Tepper

7:26

eventually agreed to have just to get rid of

7:28

Harbaugh, I think he agreed to have a conversation with him.

7:30

So he'd stop calling him all the time.

7:32

But it was not a formal interview for

7:34

the job. This is in contrast

7:36

to Harbaugh's recent 8, another whopper

7:39

saying he was aware of rumors and speculation.

7:42

When he said colleges and NFL teams

7:44

have great interest in all our personnel, and that's

7:46

a testament to the strength of the University of

7:48

Michigan football

7:48

player. When he's actually calling this guy every

7:50

five minutes I'm Jim Harbaugh.

7:53

He

7:53

does have an interview with the Bronco's this

7:56

week. Although, is that a whopper? Do we

7:58

know? Probably. A story. I don't know

8:00

why who who would wanna coach that team. That team

8:02

sucks. Wow. That was a good

8:04

move. Gonna be bad for a while. They got no picks. Just

8:06

gave up everything to get Russell Wilson and

8:08

he's bad. If he's just

8:10

trying to get more money, that's really lame.

8:13

I mean, if he wants to go back to the interview, why wouldn't

8:15

he wanna hear him? I do if he's begging

8:17

for jobs Everywhere. I do think

8:19

he and, I mean, look at these n c double

8:21

a violations. And and which, by

8:23

the way -- Lang. -- I was gonna say fire.

8:25

And and what also what NIL has

8:27

done to the game, which is kinda funny to look

8:29

at those two in juxtaposition and a

8:32

analysis wild, out of

8:34

control madness, and the n c double

8:36

a is worried about watching a zoom workout.

8:38

You know, it's just kinda kinda silly, but

8:40

I don't care about that. They're they're mad about

8:42

the whoppers he's telling. Like But

8:44

that being said, I wouldn't be I'd be

8:46

fed up with coaching the n c double a. I'd I'd

8:48

rather coaching the NFL if was him

8:50

too. When you? When can he get a job? I

8:52

mean, he's begging sixty. Pulling

8:54

up everyone's following. He's abrasive.

8:56

He's isn't he sixty now? I mean,

8:58

It's kind of on the older 8 fifties

9:00

or close. Yeah. Fifty nine. Anyway,

9:02

this is

9:02

really as good as this is gonna be as last shot until

9:05

next year. In the year. He can't

9:07

get one this year or last year. I don't know. How's he

9:09

gonna get one next year? Yeah. His

9:11

brother will probably blow somebody to get him

9:13

a job. I think your your boy, Erce,

9:15

when go after him. Maybe.

9:17

I don't know. He's a weirdo, man. Who knows what

9:19

he's gonna do? Well,

9:22

weird. I don't know how to make sauce. I don't know what

9:24

goes into sauces. In a big cheater

9:26

and a liar and

9:28

enough fish shit. Just keep

9:31

winning. Aaron Rogers, by the

9:33

way, because

9:35

it's football. I really don't wanna talk a lot of

9:37

football, but I was really laughing, reading

9:40

about his new girlfriend, the

9:42

daughter of the owner of the Milwaukee

9:44

Bucks. Do you remember when she first

9:46

first onto the scene? Was she due at the

9:48

draft? Yes. She was at the draft

9:50

lottery. And people lost their shit

9:52

and she was there and she was so hot. And she was like,

9:54

this hot chick doing at the draft. It's like, what is

9:56

this hot eighteen year old doing,

9:58

running the Milwaukee Bucks. Well,

10:00

she's twenty six now at

10:02

Eddie. She is a smoke show.

10:04

Two hundred twenty five thousand Instagram

10:06

followers. You know, isn't that piling on when you're that

10:08

rich and you're you're trying to be It only mean

10:10

you're doing to can fill hud in and really

10:12

really Mhmm. Didn't she have enough? And

10:14

he and did you know he's part owner

10:16

of the box? Yeah. One percent. I didn't

10:18

know that. But she hasn't she I don't think

10:20

she has any other family or friends because I

10:23

her Instagram. It's all hers of her

10:25

alone. She looks lonely as

10:27

hell. It's just burn a thong or

10:29

just being extremely hot all by

10:31

herself. Mallory Eton. There's

10:33

gonna be a bunch of Aaron Rogers in there

10:35

too. Right? I didn't see any of it. Not the

10:37

Instagram Mallory. No. No. There she's

10:39

gotta put them on there. Right? I

10:41

suppose at some point if he doesn't

10:43

unhoten her picture too much. But,

10:45

of course, I went right to the comments. And the

10:47

first one is always, nowhere. Rogers

10:49

is tapping

10:50

that. Why? It's an

10:52

Aaron Rogers because he's thirty nine, I guess. I

10:54

don't know. Yeah. But you look

10:56

amazing. Smoke

10:58

Show, and she's a Bucks fan. Oh my

11:00

god. She's so rich too. Love

11:02

you. Gartious. Wow. Look at

11:04

that backside. Of your paddleboard.

11:07

You get it waxed?

11:09

You really say that? Yes. Oh,

11:11

Jesus Christ. Do better

11:13

guys. Amazing ass.

11:15

Oh, yeah. No one is worthy of that

11:18

perfect ass. Those

11:20

cheeks though, wow. Great

11:23

angle, stunning. Holy

11:26

shit. You are so

11:28

beautiful, Mallory. There are just no words.

11:30

That's her job. I can now

11:32

see I've seen an angel.

11:33

Oh, god. Oh,

11:35

you should do more squats. Looks

11:37

tight down there that s good

11:39

god. Incredible

11:42

ass and the titties are just icing.

11:44

Imagine having someone seeing that

11:46

on your page. I

11:48

mean, every day when you take a picture

11:50

of this endless stream of people, do

11:52

you wanna fast forward forty years and see

11:54

your Instagram then? Yes. So

11:56

you're gonna be doing what Paulina Pariscope

11:59

it

11:59

is. Probably. With the

12:01

crying, fuck. It's

12:04

because of Aaron Rodgers. I

12:07

know. Although, actually, she had she it's

12:09

she oh, I wonder when I wonder how many

12:11

followers she had before she knew Aaron Rogers.

12:13

Is there any way to find out? Or before because

12:16

everybody found her at the draft.

12:17

Yeah. But I mean, she was

12:19

young wasn't she didn't bother

12:21

anybody? I I just wear the fans

12:24

of of Olivia bonding, Danica

12:26

Patrick. I wonder how many

12:28

phones would show me out. Would Lee.

12:30

Are they mad that Aaron's

12:32

dumped them all for younger women? He

12:34

probably jacked their Instagrams up

12:36

too. Yeah. Before he dumped them. He makes he makes

12:38

everybody around them better Doesn't he? Is he

12:40

friends with his family yet

12:41

again? Or does he still hate each other? No.

12:44

He is He is so weird.

12:46

That's really just cut them out of

12:48

his life. He's nailed consecutively

12:50

more attractive women from Danica

12:52

Patrick to Olivia Mon to the shale Yeah.

12:54

Danica Patrick seen a little subpar. She's yeah.

12:57

She okay. She drives really fast,

12:59

but you really wanna check that's a better driver

13:01

than you? But then his brother

13:03

has to go on the bachelor to find

13:05

out. Yeah. And of course, he has

13:07

to talk to nothing except Aaron Aaron

13:09

Aaron. They go back to the high school and

13:11

look at my brother on the wall. Oh,

13:14

yeah. I'm on the hometown. Right.

13:16

It was embarrassing. I was embarrassed

13:18

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13:20

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18:01

ten thousand dollars. One twenty one Wait

18:04

a minute.

18:04

Most important thing is how many more followers did this

18:06

guy and TikTok get from doing this

18:08

nice kind act? Hard

18:10

to say. Probably a lot.

18:12

But anyway, butch is all fired up. I feel like

18:14

a new man, a bird out of a cage. Good

18:17

for him. Always gonna be pounding trim

18:19

everywhere, isn't he? With all that money.

18:21

He's going to be those broke.

18:23

He's gonna go to a vendor.

18:25

Why why is an eighty two year old

18:27

guy? I see. He

18:30

worked for GMs. Jesus. What

18:32

the

18:32

Letter free one day,

18:35

wouldn't he have a really good pension? You

18:37

would this? You would think so. But,

18:39

you know, a lot of those breeders that you

18:42

see, Walmart and Meyer, they tend

18:44

to be

18:44

elderly. So I mean, some people just want to

18:46

work. Well, they wanna have a a reason to get

18:48

up in the morning

18:49

we've have seen stories in the past where people retire.

18:51

They don't do anything and then they die right away. Yeah.

18:53

No. I mean, that that's always that's always

18:55

my first question is, you know,

18:57

wanna be doing this, or do you not wanna be doing this? Well, he's

19:00

got

19:00

a hundred and twenty thousand dollars

19:02

now, so he can Just a

19:04

lot of that now. So

19:06

we can call him up. I talked to him earlier. Oh, excuse me. I well,

19:08

I gave him a call just to see if the number would work because

19:10

I didn't wanna, like But probably, you probably answered

19:13

tell you you're doing a Monday. looks I mean, doesn't you look

19:15

like eighty two going 8 ninety two? Yes. I

19:17

mean, why is he working a forty hour week?

19:19

I'm so happy for this guy. He's forty

19:21

hours too. Yeah. Yes.

19:24

God.

19:24

And, you know, it's funny. I I can't help

19:27

looking at the comments first

19:29

comment. And today's interest rates

19:31

whoever, she's still three or four years and be out of his ass

19:34

again. Like, that's

19:36

not enough money. And

19:39

then why haven't his kids come to see

19:41

him? Hope they don't drain him.

19:42

Because he said he wanted to go visit his kids

19:44

in Florida and his grandkids because he hasn't

19:46

seen him in May or something like, why don't they visit him? It's

19:49

a fair question. Grandkids are in their

19:51

fiftieth. I don't mind helping

19:53

him out. Maybe they're maybe they need help

19:55

too. Start to go fund me, Brandon, first. See if we

19:57

can delicately find out what is

19:59

up with that with Butch. Because

20:01

I didn't really work at General Motors

20:03

and Veterans? Veterans.

20:06

Veterans pension would have the weight.

20:08

Wait a second. Yeah. This is you'd have really

20:10

good pensions from

20:11

both. Unless he's burning out and bust the guy or anything out of

20:14

money. Just blow it out his

20:16

ass. I mean, I mean, it's gonna happen

20:18

again if he does. Hello?

20:20

Hey. Is this Butch?

20:23

Yeah. Hi, Butch.

20:23

It's the Jurun Mike Show calling

20:25

in Detroit. Congratulations. You

20:28

called me once before

20:31

today. Yes. Brandon called to talk to

20:33

you because we're just so excited that

20:35

they got you off the cashier there

20:37

at Walmart. And you sound like you're

20:39

excited too. Oh,

20:41

yeah. That's great. Yeah. Well, it

20:43

just seems terrible that somebody at your

20:45

age should be working a forty hour a week,

20:47

but I guess you you needed to get

20:49

by? No. I

20:50

did for something to do. Oh,

20:52

I mean, yes, to the I

20:54

needed money out Sure. But

20:58

I I only worked twenty

21:00

eight hours 8 week. That was it. Oh,

21:02

this guy said you worked forty. Sorry.

21:05

He's changing Wait. Now it's also said you were

21:07

a navy veteran, but then I noticed in the story, it also

21:09

said you're an army veteran. Are you

21:11

a veteran? Yes. I'm

21:13

navy. Oh, I see. Thank

21:13

you. And how many years did you put

21:16

in? Put in about nine

21:18

years. Nine years.

21:19

It seems like A sailor needs a

21:21

Cosmo. that would be a you

21:23

get some nice pension Nice pension out

21:25

of that. Yeah. That seems You getting all

21:27

you're supposed to

21:27

get? Are are you recording this

21:30

Yes. We are. Are we in trouble?

21:33

No. Yeah. No. How come

21:34

how come you recording it?

21:37

Oh, because we're we wanna do the story on

21:39

our show, on the drone mic show, because everybody's

21:41

excited for you. Very happy. We want some more

21:43

people to go fund me. It won't. Okay.

21:45

Yeah. In fact, your go fund means up to a hundred and

21:47

twenty one grand. Yeah. I know it

21:49

was a hundred and eight, but you got another

21:52

thirteen coming. Do

21:55

what? Well, we we

21:57

understand you gotta check for a hundred and eight

21:59

thousand dollars, but the go

22:01

fund me, which was raising the money,

22:03

is that actually up to a hundred and twenty one thousand. So you

22:05

got some more money coming. Keeps coming. Keeps

22:07

adding up. Oh,

22:09

wow. Isn't that something? Yes.

22:11

It is. And I'm tied up, but

22:13

I'll tell you what. Until you

22:15

what? Until you what? Until

22:18

you Until you That people that

22:20

is in this world today.

22:22

The way they have treated

22:24

me, and everywhere I

22:27

go, people know me now

22:29

because TV interviews and everything.

22:31

I mean, it's just

22:33

been nothing but

22:36

wonderful. So they can say

22:38

I I

22:39

still I still can't grasp the whole

22:42

government. Did you put your two weeks in

22:44

with Walmart? I'm already retired

22:46

from Walmart. Oh, wow. That was

22:48

quick. Yeah. I just have one

22:50

more question about your background because we're

22:52

here Did you work at General Motors at some

22:55

time? I had fun and

22:57

fun. I had fun. Wow. And

22:59

how long were you working there? Oh,

23:01

about twenty six years? If they

23:03

don't don't they have a pension plan or some

23:06

kind? Well, no.

23:08

Because I had to

23:10

go on the personal leave. My

23:12

wife was sick

23:15

and oh, no. She got a

23:17

disability from General Motors. And

23:19

the doctor general motors told me to take

23:21

her down to Florida on the west

23:24

coast in the Panhandle. Yeah.

23:26

She called the warm salt air

23:28

would help her. And and then that that kind

23:30

of screwed the pension up, I guess. Well,

23:34

no. But but but I get my pension.

23:36

Well, Oh, okay. That's bad. But I don't

23:38

get a full pension. I see. Gotcha.

23:40

Yeah. We heard you were taking care of your

23:42

ex wife's husband, and then you were taking care

23:44

of your ex

23:44

wife. Wow. What about heart?

23:47

No. The ex wife's husband, it seems like

23:49

that'd be hard to do, but you must be a

23:51

really unique person to be able to

23:53

do

23:53

that. I ain't nobody special.

23:55

Yeah. You do what you I you

23:57

do what you gotta do. If

24:00

you treat treat the people the

24:03

way you wanna be treated, that's

24:05

gonna come back to you.

24:06

Well, I wish everybody felt that way because that's

24:09

a that's a great lesson for people.

24:11

Good. But But at the same time, I

24:13

was wondering when when the ex

24:15

wife's husband wasn't feeling well and you were taking

24:17

care of him, was your ex wife also

24:18

ill? So you were taking care of both of them at

24:20

the same time? Yes.

24:22

No. Not the same time. So do you take

24:24

care of the

24:25

ex husband even when your ex wife was okay?

24:28

Yeah.

24:28

And then when nature

24:31

took away. The wife's come down with breast

24:33

cancer.

24:33

Oh, geez.

24:34

And and I had to take

24:38

her or which I did. While

24:40

that's that's really sweet of you. And and especially

24:42

when she could have taken care of the ex

24:44

husband -- Yeah. -- or the ex wife's husband,

24:46

it seems like she didn't take care of him, but you

24:48

jumped in anyway. You jumped in ahead of

24:50

her. Me and him was the best

24:53

friend. Oh. And

24:55

his children Dude,

24:57

his his two daughters? They're

24:59

my daughters now.

25:02

They called him dad king,

25:04

called me dad, but Oh,

25:07

okay. When he when he passed and

25:09

then when he passed

25:10

away, The girls told me.

25:14

Dad, there is no more dad

25:16

but and there is no more

25:18

dad change. It's dead.

25:20

Oh. Well, that's really nice.

25:22

Okay. There's so many unique things in

25:24

this story. And and

25:26

I guess you plan to

25:28

use the the money that was raised to

25:30

go visit your, you know, child

25:32

and grandkids in Florida that you're gonna

25:35

go see? I'm going down and visit them. Yes. How long

25:37

has

25:37

it been since you've seen them?

25:38

Oh, four or five years, I

25:41

guess. Oh, they

25:42

ever get up your way? Pandemic.

25:44

Oh, yeah.

25:45

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They'd come up this

25:48

way.

25:48

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. COVID did really get

25:50

everybody behind, so that'll be great. You can

25:52

get get get caught up and how old are

25:54

your grandkids? Oh,

25:58

boy. I don't know. I got a 8 granddaughter

26:00

who's twenty one years old.

26:03

Really? Is she single? Yeah.

26:07

I keep going to school.

26:10

That means she we don't know if

26:12

she's single. Yeah. You must be very proud. You

26:14

could be in school and be single at the same time.

26:16

Wait. Does she have a TikTok like this guy that

26:18

helped you

26:19

out? Because she

26:20

had a TikTok. Yeah.

26:22

Who? My great granddaughter?

26:25

Yeah. No.

26:27

Maybe she could start TikTok somebody else at Walmart

26:29

that needs to retire. Wait. But do you have

26:32

a TikTok? Which?

26:36

Yeah. No. I do not. I don't even have a cell

26:38

phone. Oh, wow. Wait. Seriously?

26:40

Yeah. No. You don't I don't even have I

26:42

don't even have a computer. What? Wait. Well,

26:44

you can get a cell phone now. I

26:47

can

26:47

but why do I want one? I

26:49

got on my landline here now.

26:51

There's lots of things you can see online with a with

26:53

a smartphone. Yeah. Or

26:56

computer. Lots of

26:56

content. Making sure track everything

26:59

you do. Oh. Oh.

27:00

Are you worried about getting busted now,

27:02

but No. I don't

27:04

worry about getting by I

27:07

tried to hide from. But what are they gonna

27:10

track you for? Yeah. What did you

27:12

do

27:12

wrong? What are you talking

27:14

about? Well, I I'm just wondering, what are you

27:16

what are you afraid of being tracked for? Because you seem

27:18

like a perfectly nice fellow. You took

27:20

care of your your ex wife's

27:23

husband, you took care of her, you seemed like

27:25

such a nice person. I I can't

27:27

imagine what they track you for, or

27:29

what what what bad could come of it? Hey. Hey.

27:31

The government does that with everything. You

27:33

got on star on your car. Yeah. And

27:35

you don't even have it on. They

27:37

can ping wherever you buy

27:40

wherever you're at. Whoa. They can pick

27:42

you they can pick you out. Yeah. And

27:44

you guys know that. You

27:46

know that. And it's an exchange we make for

27:49

convenience. Yeah. Yeah. I think the

27:51

cell phone thing I had that I'm just

27:53

surprised you're so worried about

27:54

it, but I understand some people feel that

27:56

way. Well, I'm just so old

27:59

fashioned. Yeah. Looking at you. You're eighty two years

28:01

old. So God bless you. You you be however you

28:03

want. I want you to enjoy your life

28:05

and and these nice TikTok people have

28:07

made it a little easier for

28:09

you. And I think that's great. And I hope you have

28:11

a great time in 8, butch.

28:13

I

28:13

will. Thank you so so much. But it's

28:15

nice talking to you. Alright. Okay.

28:17

You have

28:17

a great day. You too. See you,

28:19

but You bet. Love that. Okay.

28:22

Alright. Bye bye. Bye. Goes

28:24

great. We could have gone down that path. We could have

28:26

gone really ugly. I don't want to go

28:28

too soft, which is hiding something. Why

28:32

why are

28:32

the ex wife when I love

28:35

this guy. Look at it. Look at him as he's he's

28:37

accepting this huge massive

28:39

check, you know, for a hundred and eight thousand six

28:41

hundred and eight dollars. And

28:44

there's got the military behind him, and he

28:46

can't even put out his cigarette. He's

28:48

like, hey. Focuses.

28:51

Give me that check. I ain't putting this cigarette

28:53

out. I was gonna smoke break. He's got his Walmart Jack

28:55

and I Oh, fashion.

28:56

he does look like ninety

28:59

five. Does he need the money? He's

29:01

he's lived a hard life. I mean, he's taken care of all these

29:03

people who were dying. Oh, I know. He's breaking

29:05

up. Ex wife's husband

29:07

wait. Why doesn't she take care of him instead

29:09

of butch? Yeah. They were best of

29:10

friends. I think they were in a trouble.

29:13

Yeah. I

29:14

Did you say my wife? You're gonna call him back and ask

29:16

him if he was in a trouble. Yeah.

29:18

Who knows where this thing could go? And what's

29:20

with the GM's pension, by the way?

29:22

His wife gets sick. They order him to go

29:24

to the certain part of Florida to get her back. Some

29:27

quack to tell him to leave so that the General

29:29

Motors doctors ordered you where to move.

29:31

We don't wanna pay all these pensions

29:33

out to We're gonna hire a quack to

29:35

tell these old timers to get

29:37

away. They'll probably barely give up

29:39

their pension. I think this tick

29:41

tucker thought that which had to work.

29:43

And I don't think Well, that was my that was our

29:45

first question. Wasn't it? Like, do you have to

29:47

work? Do we work in twenty eight hours? If

29:49

he says twenty eight, then we're like,

29:51

eighteen or He's gonna be he's gonna be bored out of his

29:53

mind. He might be playing himself.

29:55

He was on a lead destroyer during

29:57

the bay of pigs. In the Cuban blockade,

29:59

and he also spent time in Vietnam. What

30:01

a

30:01

badass. That's cool. It's

30:03

not bad pigs. Yeah. Is that something

30:05

you wanna mention? I mean

30:08

you know. He's not Kennedy. He's

30:11

just a soldier or a naval man. A

30:13

semen. He's a semen. He's been time

30:15

in Vietnam.

30:16

I'm trying to get your job Not in the military. Just hung

30:18

out there. With that articles written a minute. It's

30:20

not like your vacation there. Everything was shutting

30:22

down, so I got a job in planning to work with

30:24

General Motors for twenty twenty six years, he

30:26

should have a have a great those squad

30:29

of money. It was twenty six years, he should

30:31

have a Yes. My

30:33

god. Well, it probably does, but he sounds like

30:35

he's a little, you know, old fashioned and

30:37

maybe he doesn't think he has enough. And Yeah. But

30:39

I don't think he's a old people feel that way.

30:41

Doesn't sound like he's spenters are very

30:43

high

30:43

now. No. No computer, no

30:46

phone. What what else he doesn't

30:48

have? I wanna see that

30:50

great granddaughter I was looking for

30:52

her. You sure did not wanna reveal whether she was

30:54

single or not.

30:57

I think we must have caught him after the Patriots

30:59

game because when I called him the first time just to

31:01

see if the phone number would work --

31:03

Yeah. -- he was he didn't wanna talk to me. It was, like, you

31:05

you can in his his TV was just blanked. It

31:07

was still cranked. Yeah. But this time, I think the

31:09

game was already over, so he's like, yeah. I'll talk.

31:12

Well,

31:12

I under stand that, man. I mean, he's he's eighty two. I don't know. 8 just

31:15

wanna watch football in a sun. I don't care how

31:17

old Joker's College football. Yeah. Yeah,

31:19

man. This guy's cool, though.

31:22

Well, the a

31:24

lot of things on my list today. Let's see. I hope he

31:26

doesn't deal doves this money.

31:31

Deal doves. We talked to that crack head, didn't 8?

31:33

That's one of my all time favorite interviews because

31:35

the guy was in his nineties and he just said, I

31:37

just wanted to crack never been

31:39

crack. Why not not for crack and everyone

31:41

thought, it's gotta be this horrible misunderstanding.

31:44

No. I like crack. This is very open to

31:46

none. It comes to love crack in

31:48

your nineties. I'm like, butche who's hiding from the

31:50

government even though he did nothing wrong.

31:52

Dude, it does without their buying

31:55

crap. Okay.

31:57

It's gonna go on a bender.

32:00

So curious, I think

32:02

a lot of people have probably seen

32:04

this this crazy scene

32:06

in Texas -- Oh, yeah. -- where this

32:09

guy is holding up a restaurant

32:11

in Houston with a gun.

32:13

Mhmm. At least it looks like a gun. It looks everything

32:16

absolutely looks like a gun and he's ordering everybody

32:18

around and people are parting with their money and

32:20

their watches and rings and

32:22

things and putting him on the

32:24

floor. And all of a sudden, miss Seidna, that's

32:26

how I would give him my money too by making him

32:28

bend over and pick it up, like, and chunking it on

32:30

the floor. Kick them in the ass or kick them from behind or who

32:32

knows where on them. Yeah. But it turns

32:34

out there's one guy who's an aisle seat is

32:36

booth just when

32:38

he walks by, he just opens fire.

32:40

Walks by the second when he's

32:42

on his way

32:43

out, really. Yeah. Is he on his way out?

32:46

Way. Oh, yeah. Because the full video you see him walk by, and the

32:48

guy gave him the shooter gave him the money, you

32:50

know, threw it on the ground. His the guy he was eating with

32:52

threw it on the ground. He picked that up, went to the

32:55

people behind, And when he had his back to him

32:57

walking past him, that's Well, it was his last shot to get

32:59

the money back. That's where he was able to get his weapon

33:01

out, though, after he walked by. So we didn't

33:03

see him. In a row. Okay. I thought maybe people were suggesting

33:05

that, I was the guy who's leaving, why do you have to

33:07

shoot him? No. If somebody's gonna complain

33:09

about this guy getting shot because it turned out the

33:11

gun was fake. That's the best part about the video in

33:13

the shoot. I mean But the gun looks real. I mean,

33:15

you that feels like real danger. And in

33:17

Texas, it is legal to

33:19

use fatal force if you believe your life

33:21

or someone else is is in

33:23

danger. Yeah. No. I will say when he

33:25

is shot, he is he is pointing the

33:27

weapon at a different person who's got his

33:29

hands up. And they

33:31

always pause it right when he points, but I

33:33

guess he shot nine times.

33:35

Yeah. I gotta make sure. And then

33:37

when he recall the shooter recovered the

33:39

gun from him when he found out he was fake. You seemed

33:41

shock it across the restaurant. He was so pissed.

33:43

Oh, no. I did not like he wanted shoot this. I

33:45

did not see that. Yeah. Yeah. The end of

33:47

the

33:47

video, he he realizes it's fake and gets

33:49

it. Zoe bolted because he saw the gun was fake

33:51

because he bolted. Yeah. Yeah. That was

33:53

his meal. He did got the job done. He paid

33:55

for his meal. Everybody got

33:57

their money back. But

33:59

I'm just wondering, are is anyone complaining

34:01

about this or most people going, yeah.

34:04

Fine. I got no problem with that.

34:05

The general consensus is not gonna

34:07

be charged. If he's yeah. Because of the laws there

34:09

and because of what this guy

34:12

was doing, people might not feel like death was

34:14

the the outcome that should have

34:16

happened, but they feel like this customer

34:18

should not

34:20

be charged. That's

34:20

what I can And then why they looking for already talked to his

34:23

lawyer. Oh, they did? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Cool. So he's

34:25

last I heard they were just looking for him because he bolted it.

34:27

Yeah. I think if you shoot somebody nine

34:30

times, you probably should stick around even if it's self defense. Right? Yeah.

34:32

Things to do. Would you

34:34

wanna wait around?

34:36

No. I wouldn't, but I

34:39

mean, I'm I'm bizarre. I'm joking. Of course, you should probably wait. But,

34:41

you know Okay. So, yeah,

34:43

it sounds like

34:46

all the places of this to happen, Texas was probably the best place

34:48

-- Yes. -- for him anyway.

34:51

Yeah. So anyway, you know,

34:53

rarely, it seems, you know, a

34:56

long horned steak. You like you like the

34:58

good guy with a gun over the bad guy with the guncer of

35:00

the bag. I didn't have a gun. But if everybody thought he

35:02

had a

35:03

gun, it's the same thing.

35:04

It's real there's really no

35:07

difference. It is. And shouldn't rob places. That's mine. That's armed

35:09

robbery too. That's a serious

35:12

crime. And Also,

35:14

we had the six year old shooting the school teacher. Unreal, Newport

35:17

News, Virginia. And Man,

35:19

have they per walked this six

35:21

year old yet? No. No. No. They haven't

35:23

even identified them. Are you allowed to? They said they are

35:26

They arrested them though. Hell yeah.

35:30

What the hell

35:31

can I talk

35:31

about grade has a gun. Number one, brings

35:34

it to school, shoots

35:36

their teacher. I'm not shocked. I don't know.

35:38

Did you

35:40

know he there was actually a disagreement between a six year old and

35:42

the teacher and then he shot

35:43

her. Did it on purpose. Yeah. Yeah. Understood.

35:45

So

35:45

this wasn't just a six year old out testing

35:47

the gun. He

35:49

was pissed. Probably at all the time. Glad he had his peace with him.

35:51

Where's his parents? I wanna see his

35:54

parents. I

35:54

do. I wanna yell at them.

35:57

Well, you know, I I don't think they're

35:59

gonna care. This this has

36:02

happened a lot where little

36:04

children, I mean small, not not twelve year olds or

36:06

fourteen year olds or four year olds, three year olds,

36:08

two year olds, get a hold of a gun and shoot

36:10

someone or shoot themselves. And then

36:12

there's all

36:14

this outrage How can this happen? I know this this story. It

36:16

doesn't seem like that biggest story to

36:17

me. This one, the video. Oh, it's been

36:19

leading everything, though.

36:22

Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I see more about the Idaho

36:24

guy and about Biden's going to

36:26

the border. Yeah. Those are the three big

36:28

stories right now, though. It was

36:30

on the it was the number two story in the Last night, it was on

36:33

this morning. I mean, it's pretty sensational who thinks

36:35

a

36:35

six year old's gonna shoot as

36:37

first grade 8. Yeah.

36:40

I mean, how old was the littlest killer? The one around

36:42

here? Eleven. Nathaniel Abraham was eleven.

36:44

And we thought he was young. And he's lived a

36:46

productive life since he got out so we all know

36:49

this can work. I know. What do you what do you do with this

36:51

six year old? No. You can't put

36:53

a six year old impression. Can

36:55

be rehabilitated. I I'd say I've read, wait,

36:57

maybe he can get rehabilitated

36:59

in

36:59

prison, get his law license, and then

37:02

clerk on the Supreme Court, and then lose

37:04

that job. Well, he didn't

37:06

shoot a cop. Unlike that

37:08

guy. I'm just kidding. That's so

37:10

dumb. Can you believe the

37:12

supreme court justice in Michigan was a hire guy who was I

37:14

will in prison for shooting at a police

37:16

officer. I will say this. I thought Mark

37:18

Bernstein's comments were a little bit

37:20

of, oh, because it's

37:22

like, clirk, hey, that's just too bad

37:24

to clerk on the supreme court. But he can go be

37:26

a lawyer elsewhere. It's like, why do you

37:28

get the shoes where this guy becomes a lawyer? Oh, he can

37:30

get a law license. He has

37:32

a wall icon. He has a wall icon. I

37:34

believe that's that's the story I read

37:35

this. So you can shoot at a cop and become

37:37

a lawyer. That's interesting. See, you

37:39

know Yeah. But but that's so strange. That's the only thing

37:41

that bothered me about the story. Look, it's terrible optics

37:44

that she hired. I mean, that was

37:46

really dumb. But Mark Bernstein, like, he can go advocate, but

37:48

to be a clerk on the supreme court of

37:50

the state is is unacceptable 8 we

37:52

have cases with

37:54

police involved situations. It's like,

37:56

well, but Yeah. I did say where is he

37:58

allowed to work then? I always thought that if

38:00

you shot at the president or you

38:02

shot at a police officer that your life was

38:04

pretty much over, Now if he's

38:06

lucky he didn't hit him. If he hit the cop -- Oh,

38:08

it's totally different. -- yeah. But and

38:10

I don't really know the circumstances, but it's incredible

38:12

now because I was reading about somebody who

38:15

killed a cop who was getting out of

38:17

jail and was like, I didn't think you

38:19

could do that. It was

38:20

a local story, but I thought if you killed

38:22

a cop -- Yeah. -- what?

38:24

Really? Yeah. Anyway, my reaction

38:27

to story is like direct to

38:29

all of these stories, which

38:32

is Okay. Who's gun in this? Who's gun is this? And

38:34

how is this person being punished for

38:36

allowing a six year old to gain

38:38

possession of their loaded gun? I

38:42

always react this way. It's like Ethan Crumley, I felt the same way.

38:44

No. Why don't you hit this gun? Maybe you get it for Christmas

38:46

as parents bought it for. I know. I know.

38:48

And it's really, you know, may end

38:51

up being no big deal. All those parents have been sitting

38:53

in jail for a year. Yeah. But they

38:55

may not even be convicted, and and I feel

38:57

like every time this happens, I either

38:59

want if there isn't a law, we should pass a law. And I

39:01

guess I'm just out voted, and I accept that. If

39:03

that's the case, if most people feel, no,

39:05

I don't want the the

39:08

person that owns the gun punished badly because I want them

39:10

punished badly. I want the punishment to

39:12

be severe. So people start fucking

39:15

keeping track of their weapons. Virginia's

39:18

law Virginia actually has a law on, like,

39:20

Michigan. So but

39:22

I didn't see anybody was charged yet? they

39:24

have they charged anyone? Just shot his teacher,

39:26

give him give him some time. It was

39:29

Thursday, wasn't it? Yeah. I

39:33

I don't honestly, I don't know

39:35

what the downside of this

39:38

is because it seems like you're never

39:40

gonna have this put to a stop

39:42

if people don't keep better

39:44

track of their weapons. Or maybe

39:46

that's just a pipe dream. Maybe that's just a

39:48

ridiculous. But I think if people saw

39:50

people going to prison, because

39:52

someone got a hold of their gun and did something with

39:54

it. Would that affect people a little bit? Yeah.

39:56

But if you're the responsible gun owner, you're

39:58

doing that anyway. So why have

40:00

another law? Well, then I don't know no. I don't understand why you would mind

40:02

someone being punished for it because it seems to me that's

40:04

that is a punishable crime. It should be a punishable.

40:06

I would I would think most responsible owners

40:09

would want the crumbly parents or the parents of the six year

40:11

old? Yeah. I would think so, but I see if he doesn't

40:13

look it doesn't look. I see people

40:15

arguing quite to

40:18

the contrary. And I'm really surprised because I can't believe someone would say, oh,

40:20

no. I don't want the crumbly's punished. No. I

40:22

don't want them punished. I don't want the father of

40:24

this the owner of the gun

40:26

the the six year old you,

40:28

I don't want him punished. That seems so weird to me. Yeah. But,

40:31

anyway, we'll see

40:33

where that one goes. Meanwhile,

40:36

Idaho, of course, is on

40:38

everyone's mind. And since

40:40

I thought of you, Drew, when I was watching Good Morning

40:42

America, and Friday and they talked to Brad Garrett because

40:44

he's really taken a page out of Kelly's book.

40:46

Yeah. Just calling him a fucking idiot. How do

40:49

you see it? Thank you. There's

40:51

another big genealogy, gene out geological

40:54

DNA person who did the same thing on

40:56

forty eight hours last night, and

40:58

I loved because

41:00

I'm so tired of hearing what a

41:03

genius he is. I heard I had

41:05

to listen to his fellow student who probably

41:07

is trying to make sound

41:09

like he's a genius too because he's a fellow

41:11

PhD student. Mhmm. Who said that, oh,

41:13

he's highly intelligent. And then he

41:15

said, oh, and by

41:18

the way, this is sort of offhand kinda locker room

41:20

talk. He said, I can go down to a

41:22

club and have pretty much any lady

41:24

I want. Oh, yeah. Right.

41:25

Like, oh, that's a real genius. The guy is

41:28

an in cell. He never

41:30

gets laid. That would have been great that would have

41:32

been great if the guy said. He's he's a real smart guy. He's

41:34

a genius. Except when it comes to murdering people.

41:36

Except when it comes to dating people, he has

41:38

no checks. None. That is

41:40

incredible that he hasn't

41:42

recorded any 8 some

41:43

of

41:43

the pictures have come out of when he was a fat shlub. Yeah. Asavos. I

41:45

think they should be all oh, with plaster all over

41:48

cell, please.

41:51

Well, people Internet is

41:53

making cardboard cut out and put in the cell

41:55

across from them. Internet sleuth went through the video

41:57

of the the tribute that the

41:59

local community

42:00

had. And they found copuger at the

42:02

tribute walking around Hobbs.

42:05

Yeah. You

42:08

know, his his professor in

42:10

criminology also called him a genius. I think

42:12

that's when it started. They wanna sound

42:14

smart. So they they say he's smart because

42:16

it makes them smart. If if you didn't have

42:18

been convicted of killing four people, then you must be

42:20

smarter than him, and you're calling him smart. So you're

42:22

smart. Did you see that story that he was

42:24

discussing the murders in online

42:26

chat

42:27

room? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He said

42:30

and he uses papa Roger, is his

42:32

name? What the hell is that? Is his dad name

42:34

dad's name Roger

42:36

or something? I I wondered if it was, like, a reference to his

42:38

dick, like papa Rod or something.

42:40

Oh, yeah. That's

42:43

something that he he does

42:45

do. Of course, no one else ever touches it. But Oh, this

42:47

is Rod. And this is

42:48

what I felt like. Yeah. And Radity said

42:50

the killer parked behind the host

42:53

approached property through tree line, entered sliding

42:56

door, and left it open, committed

42:58

murders and exited sliding door, which

43:00

is like, Interesting. Except he said the time was three twenty to

43:02

three forty AM, which is probably a lie he put

43:04

on there just to draw attention away

43:06

from himself. 8 all

43:10

you know,

43:10

we don't I don't think we had this information

43:12

on Thursday. He the

43:15

FBI's sitting us as

43:18

watching the house watching fork garbage to come out in particular because

43:20

they want DNA. And he puts the

43:22

fucking garbage in the neighbor's garbage

43:24

can. Yeah. What a genius.

43:28

While

43:28

wearing while wearing surgical

43:32

gloves. They'll never they'll never think to

43:34

look there. Can

43:36

you imagine spending years of your life trying to hide your

43:38

DNA, that would be

43:40

impossible. We've talked about this

43:42

before, being on the

43:44

run sounds awful. Yeah. It does. Just sounds just

43:46

terrible. But if you're not in the

43:48

run to hide your d how do you hide

43:50

your DNA?

43:52

If you're not on the run? Yeah. If you're not on the run, if you're just a suspect.

43:54

You never have trash. You burned everything in the

43:56

backyard, I guess. But then that says you did

43:58

it. Then we know you did it. You

44:01

got wear plastic gloves everywhere you go. Oh, plastic gloves

44:03

and putting your garbage in the neighbor's garbage. You did

44:05

it. He did that to me. That's it. It's okay.

44:07

Can they hit them with, like, a homeowner's

44:10

association fine too? Please

44:12

do. Perfect. For putting it

44:13

in the room. This

44:14

is for his dad. It is dad with the fine. What

44:16

I couldn't believe is that the BT keep

44:18

beaten me up. I'm still mad. T k killer himself has made

44:21

a statement. Yeah. TMZ reached out

44:23

to him for comments. What

44:25

are you doing? Why is

44:27

TMZ talking to BTK? Knock it off. Who

44:29

was rock hard when he made the statement?

44:31

He was so hard. It's because BTK's

44:34

daughter kept saying, Oh, his

44:36

professor worked with my dad. So -- Okay. --

44:38

I think that they were in contact, and so

44:40

they reached out to BTK. And he was like,

44:42

no. I never talked to him, and I'm

44:44

a loser. Think

44:45

he got off on being contacted, though.

44:47

Oh, yeah. Of course, he did. He I'm

44:50

surprised he didn't say that COB's

44:52

did contact them because I would probably

44:54

In his message, Magna, TMZ, he just said, no, uncoburger all

44:56

around. A lot of it is

44:58

so cool. Have that BT game.

45:01

And I hate to do

45:04

this, but I'm just gonna say

45:06

it. COB's sister, you know,

45:08

one's a family therapist, and then

45:10

one is was it was in a horror film, the one in the horror I don't think

45:12

she's hot. I was just to think she's hotter

45:14

than she is. She's gonna ask you if they

45:16

were hot. He's not. She

45:18

thinks she's she's she's Do you have a horse

45:20

face? Because he kind of has a horse face.

45:22

I see COBES in her. I'm

45:24

extrapolating, like, his look under

45:26

under a

45:26

woman, I would think it'd be, like, worse space with a

45:28

huge bush. She is. Oh. She's

45:30

kind of attracted. But once she's

45:34

overly soft focused picture, though. There's no Once you know she has COB's

45:36

DNA, the kinda takes away me to

45:38

see COB's in her. She has the

45:40

genius gene.

45:42

I guess so. Jesus.

45:44

That's it. Kevin Boone, the director

45:46

of the horror movie starring the sister of Acute's

45:48

Idaho merger, where Brian Kobugger, says

45:51

never mentioned her brother during

45:54

filming. What? Another piece of the

45:56

puzzle. Who gives

45:58

a shit? I know it's stupid.

46:00

There's so much like, madness surrounding

46:02

this story. I mean, it's very entertaining.

46:05

In significant trivia. There's just piles of it

46:07

in this story, you know, the

46:09

girl that I thought I was helping him run an errands,

46:11

getting a errand. She made it

46:13

on forty eight hours last night. What?

46:15

There's another friend if he made it on forty hours anyway.

46:17

Oh my god. Does she

46:20

wax her eyebrows? Oh,

46:22

really? Shit. Let's see. It looks like she's got a

46:24

unibrow and she just go quick and, you

46:26

know, and she doesn't

46:28

cook enough. They're still too big. Maybe she was in a hurry.

46:30

Forty eight hours was on its way. And she could

46:32

a little off the top or the bottom

46:34

too. How's the Blue Eagle?

46:37

If you fast forward to the forty hours of Eagle -- Mhmm.

46:39

-- a lot of people are saying that Brian Coeburger looks like Sam

46:41

Eagle. Is the nose, the

46:44

eyebrows? Yes. Yeah. does

46:46

his eyebrows are, like, right on his eyes.

46:48

They're not up high at all. So

46:50

it got him identified. But

46:53

it's just he just looks weird.

46:55

He's creepy as fuck. Oh, I just had

46:57

a thought. Have we figured out Brian Colbert is

46:59

the one that skinned that

47:01

dog? Oh, I doubt

47:04

it. I don't think so either. That's too small

47:07

time for COB's. That'd be genius

47:09

of a moat, some really nice red herring. Could be gracious. I mean,

47:12

he could have practiced his his

47:14

criminal future. I just

47:16

can't believe I

47:18

had to go in kill four fucking

47:21

people. Holy shit. Man

47:23

man. And it's sounds like, you

47:25

know, this happens a lot with people who

47:28

are so inclined to wanna do

47:30

this, is that after the

47:32

fact, they

47:34

have they're actually feeling very good.

47:36

Mhmm. They're not really I mean, he looks

47:38

really worried when the cops pull him over, which --

47:40

Mhmm. -- I guess the FBI ordered him to pull

47:42

him over, which brief fucking

47:45

cool. Well, that yeah. That was great police work. Not not

47:47

by the Moscow. I know police chief because

47:49

that guy seemed a

47:52

little Yeah. He was I think he was out of the loop. He was like the mascot

47:54

of this crime. Well, of this investigation. That's

47:56

the dumbass guy. It's kinda brilliant. Just keep going on

47:58

there. Be on TV while the FBI does the

48:01

real work. Like -- Yeah. -- we'll do an interview. We'll do the real

48:03

work. There was But there were oh, sorry, man. Go

48:05

ahead. Well, I was just gonna say

48:06

there was a lot of criticisms against

48:10

that police department. But I think they

48:12

had the leads right away, and they were working on it.

48:14

They were just quiet. And this was such

48:16

a public But that guy

48:18

wasn't quiet. That chief that was on

48:20

TV every day? Right. But, I mean, he had to

48:22

make statements and he messed up some of the ones

48:24

the early days because he was, like, not a threat. No. No.

48:26

Don't worry about it here. That was why. It's a

48:28

murder of four running around somewhere, but other

48:30

than that, nothing's fine. Get back to

48:32

class. I didn't think it was kinda

48:34

cool that I believe I read that

48:36

Washington State University 8 the ones that identified the car and

48:38

connected it to

48:39

Coldburger. Yeah. They they informed them that

48:41

there was a white

48:44

Alantra there. But you give it a I mean, for campus

48:46

police. Yeah. And they knew

48:48

about the Alantra a good

48:50

while before they announced it

48:53

They already knew about

48:53

here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I don't wanna hear nobody

48:56

else complaining about how we pronounce

48:58

Hyundai Alantra. Is it Alantra or

49:00

Alantra? I I don't

49:01

know. I buy American. I

49:04

don't

49:05

even pronounce before

49:08

it. I just got a couple of boner

49:10

line messages and a couple of messages

49:12

on Facebook. Since you're saying that car wrong. That

49:14

reminds me,

49:16

they found the car in that hit and run

49:18

that killed the the MSU

49:20

student on Rochester. Yeah. I found the car,

49:22

but I didn't hear that they found the driver. Just a

49:24

matter of time. And and I would think so.

49:27

They said she was mid thirties and maybe of

49:29

Asian

49:29

descent. That's a sad

49:32

story. Oh, I know.

49:34

Got it. Senior in

49:37

college. Terrible. And these four girls, by the

49:39

way, I think there's something about the four

49:41

that just keeps reminding me of the Oxford four

49:43

because you see them all photograph together -- Mhmm. --

49:45

and picture together. And, you

49:47

know, every time I see the four Oxford kids, it

49:50

just it just feels

49:52

so

49:52

wrong. And the same with these four,

49:55

And these people are

49:57

horribly random. Yeah. And they they

49:59

sounded well, these four are, of

50:01

course, great friends, the Fort Knox or, you

50:03

know, they went to school together. They probably knew each

50:05

other. But, yeah, they

50:08

just seemed like they were having such a great

50:10

time in college and just thought, back to how

50:12

much fun that was and just the

50:14

what the fuck? What?

50:16

Yeah. They I mean, I'm with

50:18

all the speculation. I haven't heard much about a motive other than he wanted to see

50:20

if he could get away with -- Yeah. I think --

50:23

or

50:23

people. I think it's a leopold think

50:25

little old and old.

50:28

I mean, what else could

50:30

it be? I was a little girl.

50:33

It can't be be yeah. Can it just be

50:35

that? That seems almost too simplistic with how

50:37

bad he was at doing

50:40

it. You know, That is

50:42

just bizarre. Honestly, that you would go in a house

50:44

and kill four of the six people in the house.

50:46

Mhmm. One by one with a knife. That

50:48

is so

50:50

bizarre. It's absolutely I mean, I wouldn't

50:52

I I'd say this, but I would love to hear him

50:54

explaining what was going through his head because it doesn't

50:58

make any sense at all for somebody who wants to commit the perfect

51:00

crime. It is very imperfect. Well, you're

51:02

taking these two people living. Exactly. You're

51:04

taking a risk. You're going to a house with

51:06

six people. And stabbing

51:08

people is just insane. There's

51:10

so much risk of DNA. I

51:11

mean, it's a mere result. It's so

51:13

personal when you're doing a stabbing because

51:15

it's so close. A murder consultant. This job clipping your

51:17

seat sheath dumbass. Are you saying as a murder consultant

51:20

you'd start small with one murder?

51:22

Yes.

51:23

Where's my sheath? I think being a serial killer, you'd have more luck

51:25

if you used a gun than just kill four with a knife

51:28

at once. Plus turning the

51:30

phone off you fucking

51:32

idiot. You fucking idiot.

51:34

Don't turn your phone off.

51:36

You dope. I just feel

51:38

like thinking Oh, I was just driving around, just decided, what

51:40

is my grandfather going on? This is

51:42

crazy. I'm losing up all this energy. Well, I'm

51:44

just driving around, driving to the motor house,

51:46

just by coincidence, driving home. Such

51:48

an obvious

51:49

mistake. Yeah. How could he not know, but I that teaching program

51:51

is under duress in

51:54

my opinion. That's

51:56

gonna be unaccredited now.

51:58

All these people are calling them

52:00

geniuses in Washington State. You just go

52:02

to hell. It's gonna be criminal criminology

52:05

anyway? Or is it It looks pretty cheap judging

52:07

from the do you see the picture of the the

52:10

it's like the section of the, you know,

52:12

criminology? There's just this stupid

52:14

sign over a door, really

52:16

nondescript, nothing fancy, no big

52:18

statue or something.

52:20

I mean, should they have a

52:22

statue of They need to retire that program. John Walsh or something. On Walsh

52:26

or Brad Garrett from

52:28

from BBC. John

52:30

Kelly, psychotherapist, he got so pissed at

52:33

this guy off on

52:35

him turning the phone

52:37

off. Too. turning the phone off. It's so

52:40

stupid. I know. It just says, I did

52:42

it. So I did it. I mean, just go ahead

52:44

and go to Walmart and

52:46

get all stuff clean up while you're at

52:48

it. Yeah. Bleached. Like Nancy Seaman? Yes.

52:50

That reminds me. You you

52:52

did not see Dateline. Right?

52:55

I didn't see daylight. I saw twenty

52:57

twenty, which was another great

53:00

case in my opinion. I'm just gonna set up

53:02

the premise for Dateline because you watch a lot of true crime. I wanna see if you guess

53:04

who did it and if you're correct.

53:06

A guy -- He did it.

53:10

Driving he Skye, he drive I mean, this is after

53:12

the first hour when they talk about how

53:14

great the the victim was because that's just

53:16

part of He's a victim male or female. Female.

53:18

So the guy guy is on his way

53:20

to work. Forget this guy, the boyfriend?

53:22

Mhmm. Husband. Forget his computer at

53:24

home. Get

53:26

it. Told you. He's like,

53:28

oh, I gotta go back and get the computer, and

53:30

then he sees that his security system is

53:32

tripped. And so he emails his boss.

53:34

I'm gonna be late. My security system is

53:37

tripped. And I got my I gotta go get my computer anyways. Green system

53:39

at his house? Yeah. At his house. I don't

53:41

even have a phone computer. So

53:43

he returns home and

53:46

here's some noise upstairs, which he thought

53:48

was his cat. I don't know how loud of noise

53:50

Your cats are so loud and so much noise

53:53

knocking stuff over. So I chose a dog to

53:55

have during the podcast. His special cat cats are just so outrageous. He

53:57

goes upstairs and he opens his closet. I don't

53:59

know why he's going in his closet that was left out of

54:02

the story. In there

54:04

before and was a big beefy,

54:06

slightly overweight guy who had the voice

54:08

of Vin Diesel that

54:10

he fought. I would not believe this. It's the same time his

54:12

wife was coming back home.

54:14

And he ordered them in the

54:16

basement, and tied

54:18

him up just His wife walks in and and then he goes, yeah, this been diesel sound like he's

54:20

telling us to go in the basement. He's

54:22

gonna hurt us too much. So

54:25

she's shot. I mean, pretty quick. She's, like, shot in

54:27

the basement. She's most dangerous. She's in diesel

54:30

lane, of course. And he's

54:32

tied up but just one leg in one arm and he continued to fight with

54:35

one arm. What? Then,

54:37

wait, the guy tied

54:40

up his arm to his leg and he has one arm and one leg. To, like, a metal

54:42

folding chair, but not his other lens. Just two of

54:44

the two of the four. Why not? Big muscles not even a

54:46

big deal anymore. He's a laser

54:48

up to folding chair.

54:50

He's a lazy murderer. This guy

54:52

is no vin diesel. So then he

54:54

leaves. It doesn't take anything in the

54:56

system. She's died. So he just wanted to

54:58

kill someone and tie someone up halfway,

55:00

apparently, to a folding chair. This hero who

55:02

fought off the Vindiesel sound alike climbs

55:04

upstairs and finally calls 911.

55:06

And they show up and they attend to him and he's in a, you know, in the

55:08

hospital and she's dead because, you know Wait.

55:11

Why is he in the hospital? Because

55:13

he was beat up. He I think he had some bruising on

55:15

his leg. He was head some scratches. I

55:18

mean, he was fighting the fight. I'm

55:20

guessing the bruises were

55:22

kinda weak. His story is so full of whoppers. And

55:24

honestly, he's like, well, he took my hammer

55:26

out of my like, all these tools were out in

55:28

the basement. As if this guy

55:30

used Oh, he doesn't bring his I'll just I'll just

55:32

use his stuff when I get there because of the

55:34

crying. Because that's what happens. Home

55:36

contributors love Using your stuff.

55:38

Using your stuff. Not stealing

55:40

anything, killing one person in letters. It's a

55:42

good way to frame somebody else in the house.

55:44

It was so crime. So obvious. This

55:46

guy did it. And and he has one

55:48

of those stories that's overly descriptive.

55:50

Are you telling me that this guy is

55:52

not like charged almost immediately? Well,

55:54

I think the police knew right away that this

55:56

guy's full of shit. You know, it's make it too

55:58

hard for police to charge people?

56:01

Well, you wanna

56:02

you wanna win the case. Right? I'm amazed.

56:04

It's some of the cases where I've seen

56:06

where they go, oh, not enough. Gotta have

56:08

the murder weapon. Yeah. This

56:10

Richard De Batte? Yes. Richard 8

56:13

in county county debate. She's pretty

56:15

too. And he he looks like a murderer too. He's got crazy eyes. Oh.

56:17

Was she too hot for him? Yeah.

56:19

Well, turn She was trying to sneak up for some

56:21

hot air cock. Is

56:24

really oh, okay. It's just kinda like it's just powder.

56:26

We No. No. No. No. No. No. No. He's talking about that.

56:28

Really close together. Oh, boy. I wanna put

56:30

you in this this murder Hey.

56:33

What is doing with that guy. They were together.

56:35

It's crazy. I know she's very, very

56:37

pretty. All dead kids. Yeah. They had

56:39

two kids, six and nine when he

56:41

when he murdered her. So does she

56:44

he's kind of questioning her vision?

56:48

Cross eyed. He's

56:50

pushing her vision. I'm questioning her

56:52

vision. Pushing that vision. With his cautioning

56:53

his. Yeah. Me two ways

56:56

eyes are. She looks pretty. Really pretty.

56:58

You put her on my screen, Brandon? I think --

57:00

Yeah. -- I I think

57:02

they were high school sweethearts

57:04

or something? Or they That's really

57:06

sweethearts. Yeah. She was just young and dumb didn't

57:08

realize how hot she was. So I wanna put

57:10

you in the

57:12

killer's mind. He tells the

57:14

police when he's in the hospital for one of the first

57:16

time he's being interviewed that, yeah,

57:18

I've been having an affair with

57:20

this woman. And He's having an affair. She's a friend of

57:22

ours, and she wanted to get

57:24

pregnant. But she didn't

57:26

wanna do IVF. She wanted me to to knock

57:28

her up

57:30

the old fashion way. What? But there's an

57:32

affair. It's it's he's already banging her. Yeah.

57:34

It's total bullshit. Or what did he have

57:36

sex with her because she

57:38

wanted IBF? And then it was so

57:40

good that they've started having an

57:42

affair. He no. That's what

57:44

he should have said. This is his wife. Lost his

57:46

wife. Oh, wait. I'm on board, but

57:48

this is this is great. I wanted to have a baby so bad. Yeah. That's what he

57:50

claimed because she's dead and can't say any.

57:52

Right. But boy, but no wife would

57:54

ever tell her friends anything about something

57:56

like that. Well, that's what and that's kind of

57:58

the promise of the whole Dateline episode is her two

58:00

best friends. It's funny how you can it's

58:02

really easy to know that

58:04

there's no woman on the planet who would

58:06

not share that with a friend and have it

58:08

shot down immediately. No. It's

58:10

ridiculous. But I like the way you were thinking that, yeah, it

58:12

was so good. We just decided to

58:14

keep banging. That's what he should

58:16

have said. Basically, he should have consulted with

58:18

me. He knew that it was gonna be brought up. They were

58:20

gonna find out that he was nailing another

58:22

check, so he decided to make up this whole

58:24

IVF story. Wait. And is the

58:26

other chick on board with his

58:28

story? No. She testified against

58:30

him. Oh, she's

58:32

just lying. Pretty good. She's embarrassed because she couldn't get pregnant.

58:34

Because the lawyer was so

58:36

infuriating. Because he also got busted because she

58:38

wore a Fitbit tracker and they're like she never left

58:40

the house. You said she went to work

58:42

out and came back. Yeah. And, by the way, you

58:44

never left the house. You guys never left. So that

58:46

whole story about you. Oh. You didn't even keep going. Blushing.

58:48

Then he came back. Because of his security thing. Why did he add

58:50

that part of the story? That's pretty stupid. Too

58:53

overly descriptive about everything. And that was a

58:55

huge red flag for the

58:57

detectives. They're like, No. No. No. This is this is not making any sense.

58:59

God, I would love to have questioned this guy. Yeah. The cats

59:01

are crazy. Tell me what the cat was doing. What kind

59:03

of noises making?

59:06

Oh, it's knocking furniture over. It's fucking nuts. One

59:08

one other so we described

59:09

that. Oh my god. We thought the

59:12

intruder came in through this one, like,

59:14

kicked out basement

59:16

window. Right? Which was kicked

59:17

out. And when he left, he fled out that.

59:20

Broad daylight. Right? Of course. Yeah. Which

59:22

happens all the time in the It's a little suspicious

59:24

seeing someone very expensive suburb in Connecticut.

59:26

Nobody would notice that.

59:28

Well, he barely fled

59:30

the house. Into

59:32

the woods after he stole the only thing he stole from the

59:34

house was that guy's

59:35

wallet. Like, nothing else. No jewelry. No

59:38

watches. No nothing. Just

59:40

as wallet. And it's crazy. He dropped the wallet in the yard. They found the

59:42

wallet. So the investigators

59:44

go. Alright. Let's get the canine out here

59:46

and try Well, the killer dropped the wallet, so he got his

59:48

wallet back. So

59:50

that's great. So he's not out of his the

59:52

dropped it. So let's track let's have the

59:54

dog track. The scent

59:56

of the wallet. Right? Oh,

59:59

let me take a wild guess.

1:00:01

The the the guy, the murderer went back to

1:00:03

the house for

1:00:06

some reason. Thought the guy might have gotten away. I don't think so because the

1:00:08

dog ever got to the wallet, took a

1:00:10

right turn one back around the house

1:00:12

back to the front door

1:00:14

and stopped. Right where the guy

1:00:16

called 911

1:00:18

in. I was laughing so hard at

1:00:20

that. And then they're like, okay. Well, the

1:00:22

investigators, maybe we messed this up. Let's go

1:00:24

to where he said he

1:00:26

broke in or where he thinks he broke in. So

1:00:28

the dog starts sniffing around there

1:00:30

and then walks around in a circle and goes straight

1:00:32

to where the ambulance was. Where the guy

1:00:34

was in it? It's like this

1:00:36

officer dog is a mess. How

1:00:38

long you take to charge this weasel?

1:00:40

Oh, I think pretty quick.

1:00:43

I think pretty quick. I'm surprised he's even made date

1:00:46

line. Although, you know what? He was at the

1:00:48

memorial service, and, of course, he's parting up a

1:00:50

storm because it's happened around Christmas. So

1:00:52

he's out at the bar. Wait. After

1:00:54

the the murder -- Yeah. -- and

1:00:56

Andrew Canning actually said, we all

1:00:58

know people grief differently and, like, oh,

1:01:00

you don't say that.

1:01:02

Was he still nailing the other woman? You

1:01:04

know what? I'd oh, boy. I'm not

1:01:06

sure. I can't remember that part if he

1:01:08

was or not. Women can be very

1:01:10

loyal. Yeah. But she did testify again. Can

1:01:13

I see the other woman, by the way? I said,

1:01:15

because that his wife is so pretty. Well,

1:01:17

I'm gonna there's no business being with her. I wanna

1:01:19

show you this part. It's another part I sell out

1:01:21

it. This is the prosecution questioning. Because

1:01:23

he, of course, took the stand because he was cooked. Oh,

1:01:25

yeah. Because he sees such a good witness, I'm sure.

1:01:28

Last ditch effort.

1:01:28

That disputes your story. Your

1:01:29

stories that she came home and she ran down the basement.

1:01:32

About the Fitbit. That's

1:01:34

not the fault of

1:01:35

the story, sir. You

1:01:37

never left that house. Did you? I

1:01:40

absolutely left the house that

1:01:42

day. And every chance he got, the

1:01:44

prosecutor made sure to emphasize one key

1:01:46

element of Rick's story. What do you think it is?

1:01:48

Then diesel. I'll look up like

1:01:50

elements. There were two people in

1:01:52

that closet.

1:01:53

You in Vindisil. That must be

1:01:55

your wrestling match with Vindisil. Correct?

1:01:57

Not Vindisil.

1:01:58

Vindisil. There's Vindisil guide You must

1:02:01

have been fighting with Linde's lawyer. I was fighting

1:02:03

with

1:02:03

the treasury. Yes.

1:02:05

Hey, Frank. A movie

1:02:08

star

1:02:08

so many times. Is this

1:02:09

ridiculous. Contamination.

1:02:10

He's the one who said the guy

1:02:13

sounded like van diesel. So I was

1:02:15

certainly gonna use it with him. That great.

1:02:17

I mean, the guy, the murderer, I I immediately lose

1:02:19

even more respect for him. The fact that he's

1:02:21

so into thin diesel

1:02:24

that that's the person he thinks

1:02:26

of. This is the actual audio of the murderer. What would she do? She died.

1:02:29

It's like the

1:02:32

worst story.

1:02:32

Can I see the mistress? Yeah. I got her right here. Her name

1:02:35

is Sarah Ganzer. Is she a

1:02:37

real mistress? I mean Yeah. I mean, she

1:02:39

was two months pregnant. Yeah.

1:02:42

When own she was pregnant. Yeah. No. No. She absolutely

1:02:44

was. Why is he bring up the IVF and

1:02:46

all that crap? Because he wanted to make

1:02:49

it look like that wife was cool with him nailing her,

1:02:51

knocking her up. Well, but

1:02:54

you don't need IBVF or b

1:02:56

f or whatever the fuck

1:02:58

it is. To to sell that story. Does that make it a better story?

1:03:00

No. No. No. She couldn't she didn't wanna use

1:03:02

IVF. She wanted to get in a place. So

1:03:04

anyone would say, yeah, fucking my husband. You out of

1:03:06

your mind?

1:03:08

Yeah. I know. But he thought that story

1:03:10

sounded so good because he's so hot. That line. Here's the The prosecution's theory.

1:03:12

Which one that she took

1:03:13

me? We can't find

1:03:16

us. Prussia Yeah. I

1:03:17

don't think they showed her on the stand here.

1:03:19

Is

1:03:19

it important to the story? Testimony you

1:03:22

never conveyed that

1:03:24

you were upset that he did not file

1:03:26

for

1:03:26

divorce? I

1:03:27

don't I don't recall telling him

1:03:29

that. Did you ever

1:03:31

shut

1:03:31

him out so to speak

1:03:34

and say, that's it.

1:03:36

Well,

1:03:37

yeah, that's different from saying I want you

1:03:39

to get a divorce. Did he complain about

1:03:41

the pressure of

1:03:44

your situation in his

1:03:45

situation. You're pregnant, so you mean? Yeah.

1:03:47

Oh. Not not

1:03:49

not really In other words, the defense is trying to make

1:03:52

it

1:03:52

sound she made him do this kind

1:03:54

of thing, and she's like, well, no. I didn't want him to

1:03:56

kill his wife. He he

1:03:57

never said the pressure is getting to me. I

1:03:59

don't know. There's a lot of

1:04:00

fucking pressure. Characterize that. Yeah.

1:04:03

Well, I think it was a huge obviously. Sure it was.

1:04:05

Yeah. Now I thought it was a really good story.

1:04:07

What a dumb solution to kill his

1:04:10

wife? That's the what an idiot? Did you

1:04:12

have life insurance? I mean, they'll make a

1:04:14

little better decision, I guess. They might

1:04:16

get rich. They did not say no.

1:04:18

Uh-uh. No. I just think

1:04:20

he wanted her gone. So he thought he

1:04:23

murdered the mother of his two fucking

1:04:23

kids. Oh my god.

1:04:26

He's such a turning You know, it's weird when you when

1:04:28

someone like that who seems to be

1:04:31

leading a relatively normal life

1:04:33

with a wife and two kids. Just like

1:04:35

this COBES -- Mhmm.

1:04:38

-- with working on his PhD in criminology. He

1:04:40

says in high school, he wants to be a park

1:04:42

ranger. He wants to help police

1:04:44

analyzing, you

1:04:46

know, digital evidence,

1:04:48

etcetera, etcetera. And I tells

1:04:50

this guy, he can get laid at any

1:04:53

bar and town, anytime, and

1:04:55

he It's ego man. He wants to kill four people more than

1:04:57

he wants to do anything. And

1:05:00

this guy What was driving his

1:05:02

murdering he actually among

1:05:04

his options is murdering his wife.

1:05:06

I mean, he's obviously a sociopath. But

1:05:08

the most annoying part to me with

1:05:10

this rich debate story, Gilles' wife,

1:05:13

is that It's not just enough to kill her under

1:05:15

these circumstances, but he had to be a

1:05:17

hero while doing it. Like, he fought off this

1:05:19

van diesel guy and manage

1:05:21

to climb up the stairs to call nine

1:05:23

eleven. It's like, dude. I don't know. You

1:05:26

could have done it better. You need a higher

1:05:28

murder consultant. So you look at all the

1:05:30

weapons he had out and about just to confuse investigators.

1:05:32

Oh, that's right. He was burned by a butane

1:05:34

torch until I think he turned it on

1:05:36

him. Did

1:05:38

he have burn marks? I think he did. There there's his wrist

1:05:40

there. Yes. He did those to himself, so they couldn't hurt

1:05:42

that much. Seem all tied up there, half

1:05:46

tied up. Fake. I don't know. It's just as as if

1:05:48

It's him reenacting the crime? Yeah.

1:05:50

Well, yeah. That's how they found him.

1:05:54

Because you -- Oh, wow. -- they found

1:05:56

him. There's the cranes. Wait. So

1:05:58

how did he have his phone on him?

1:06:01

How do you call police when he was He called him

1:06:03

like that. So that's the only thing they found out is, oh,

1:06:05

you didn't call nine one for, like, an hour

1:06:07

after you sent that email or you said

1:06:09

all this happen. And it's kinda

1:06:11

the story is, well, I had to climb upstairs where my cell phone was, you

1:06:14

know, while tied to this

1:06:16

chair. Oh. You

1:06:18

wanna hear another hour? You wanna hear another one from the whopper murderer here? Yeah.

1:06:20

He's just when he's in the chair. Kinda have

1:06:22

tied up in in

1:06:24

shock, I guess. What

1:06:27

do you mean a half tied up. I had one

1:06:29

leg free,

1:06:30

and an arm free. It's a slight bend

1:06:32

easy. Inside one arm,

1:06:34

inside my my neck,

1:06:36

like, or at least you to tie

1:06:39

around. Oh, because Rick said he He already had one

1:06:41

arm available. Right. I got torched

1:06:43

to kinda just flow in his

1:06:45

last little

1:06:45

bit. Can car and fire. And drop the police

1:06:48

cars. Drop the blow to look at his

1:06:50

branch. Somewhere. He's starting to scream for

1:06:52

help. I'm not shooting for help.

1:06:54

I am. I

1:06:57

couldn't hear a soul. I got really, really dizzy.

1:06:59

Rick said

1:06:59

he then crawled upstairs. Still

1:07:01

partial the zip tied to

1:07:02

the chair, triggered

1:07:03

the home

1:07:06

alarm and called nine eleven. What a hero?

1:07:08

So he's claiming this guy had to do she

1:07:10

died. This guy's torturing him with a blowtorch, but he

1:07:12

would manage to get it away from him. And

1:07:15

spray the blowtorch on his ski mask that he was

1:07:18

wearing. That was a good

1:07:20

move. So how did how did he really

1:07:22

kill his wife? He just shot

1:07:24

her. He just shot her in the

1:07:26

head. In the basement. Yeah. And then scattered

1:07:28

those weapons and kinda hurt himself

1:07:30

and tied himself up. God. How do

1:07:32

you do that? Man. I

1:07:34

think you're fucking smart. You're gonna get away with

1:07:36

us as parents about bad first parents.

1:07:38

Well, yeah.

1:07:40

That sucks. They believe everything's I

1:07:42

don't know what's going on with Coleburger's Cole's parents because I that's

1:07:44

really interesting. This whole situation

1:07:48

with the police in Indiana just looks really

1:07:50

weird. Mhmm. They both look

1:07:55

really wigged out Both of them. Well, is anybody jumping on my theory

1:07:57

that he told his dad about that? Talking

1:08:00

about it. I I'm in I'm kind of intrigued

1:08:02

I have a feeling, though, that he probably

1:08:04

said, I'm nervous that I'm gonna give

1:08:06

me a suspect or something because I have this

1:08:08

car. Yeah.

1:08:09

Yeah. Nothing is bad. Well,

1:08:11

that's terrible. We gotta get you in

1:08:13

that car out of there. Don't think you'll fly out.

1:08:15

We'll drive across the country. I don't think that's the case. I really just think it's one of

1:08:17

those things where, hey, I'm gonna be

1:08:19

driving across the country

1:08:21

wanna come out here and drive with me so I

1:08:23

don't have to do it alone. A lot of people say it. So pacifier. That is

1:08:26

really weird because they're dead. I I love my dad to death. I don't wanna drive

1:08:28

girls country

1:08:31

with them. I'll drive you nuts. Dad wanna fly to Washington. I'm just Oh,

1:08:33

daddy. I can't come back to this. So

1:08:35

if Kobe burgers, dad says,

1:08:37

I'm gonna drive on to video. What's your across the country

1:08:39

and we'll drive together. No. Why would you put someone

1:08:42

else through a twenty five hundred mile

1:08:44

drive? That's ridiculous. That shows us

1:08:46

selfish you are, so you probably did

1:08:48

it. Dad just pay for the plane ticket. Oh, no dad

1:08:50

is it. And if that doesn't get the car out of there. Oh. So I mean,

1:08:52

if the dad offered to

1:08:54

well, why is the dad He's

1:08:57

twenty eight. Was he a driver's

1:08:58

license? Ticket. Going on to the bar, pick up one of the chicks, you could so easily pick up

1:09:00

and ride with her.

1:09:03

I think co burger he

1:09:05

actually benefits from the softness of a lot of people his age, and that,

1:09:07

01111. Right? McKenzie can't be alone. Really

1:09:10

nice than you had.

1:09:12

The dad's in his sixties. Does he really need to drive twenty five hundred

1:09:14

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1:09:26

Bubbles. Yeah. Fucking floored. I'd be a

1:09:29

think that sounds like fun. I don't want

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to go on a road trip. I wanna drive all the way out there and back by myself. You

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don't wanna do it? Just

1:09:38

a podcaster too. You don't do with copugars. Yeah. A lot of time. I

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don't wanna be his co booker's dad. Oh, he got that one ruined

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the trip. He seems like a boar based

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on one police stance. His teeth are brown.

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I thought you drew I wanted to hold them down and

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Come on. Yeah. Can we can we put

1:10:03

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please? It's about serious if you should help. And then just expose him in

1:10:07

the case. Of course, dad needs

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1:10:24

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1:10:26

either pulling her shirt up over her face

1:10:28

Like, can we get her a mask

1:10:30

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people related to famous murders

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why he's gotten hair a little so cool. His hair is like burning

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He blocked us. Every time we call

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since sad news,

1:14:32

we have to say goodbye to our amazing

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home to Michigan by Going

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to Stanford sweatshirt. Oh, miss you.

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So thank you for the true state. Great coworkers. And

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it's not the weather that drove you away.

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Right? No. I will be going to justice

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smelly in cold of weather. For I have

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Alright. Drive safe. Oh,

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not for transition. I really enjoyed Well, I'm glad you jumped in there, mister Weatherman.

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Nice transition. Mister

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Happy Talk.

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Good for her. Kennedy, nine and ten news. That's Cadillac

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baby. I spoke to her after

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she got it.

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It was pretty cool. That's a that's a

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good move for him. Hey. They're the the Northern Michigan news leader, which means that whenever there's news,

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they are the leader. They have

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it first. Everyone always follows them.

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Because they're the news leader.

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Right? It's on their their So

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show me the sports leader. Yeah. And

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when we following camp. Well, are they the sports leader?

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Are they just the news

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leader? I mean, those are two very different states. Sports is part of news, weather traffic. They lead all

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of them. I think this is

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the same stage that's

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Ryan Romani, kicked his career off. A

1:15:48

lot a lot of people do. Yeah. Yeah. Ninety in time.

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I worked with someone when I was at WTC, I'm

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radio in Traverse City for a few of the

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Bay have to pay. Either, you know, there is a

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definite path to Detroit. Yeah.

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It's really weird because I don't

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know. I never saw that anywhere else

1:16:03

I worked where, you know, Oh,

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well, first, you work in Tucson, then you

1:16:07

work in Phoenix or, you know, you work in Springfield and then you work at Boston. It just I

1:16:09

don't know. And it's it

1:16:12

seems like so

1:16:15

many people went to specs here. Yeah. So many

1:16:17

people. That would be the last way

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I would think you'd get to

1:16:21

a market like Detroit. Yeah. It's through a

1:16:23

little bit camps. It's cool, but it's simple.

1:16:25

They have connections, so they get smaller markets

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in these states too. Why not?

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Why don't step up step up? I used to hire through your state.

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I used to be very jealous of people that started large markets that

1:16:34

used to piss me

1:16:36

off. Like

1:16:38

me? There was a lot of people who when at was there for

1:16:40

a lot of those

1:16:43

students I just thought. They

1:16:45

were gonna jump right into Detroit Radio or Detroit Film Making, and that blows

1:16:47

my mind. Yeah.

1:16:52

My mind. My mind. But it did happen. Like, I

1:16:54

think Anne Carlene, didn't she just work in Detroit? Oh, did

1:16:58

she work somewhere

1:16:59

else? Now done, Nobody hires from out of market

1:17:01

hardly ever. If they do, it's always

1:17:04

syndicated people. 8

1:17:07

is that? That seems really good. That's that's really

1:17:10

true. Who's the last

1:17:12

mojo came from out of

1:17:14

market in? Yeah. He's Phoenix? He was in Tucson,

1:17:16

so he should have gone to Phoenix. I would

1:17:18

have been there a truck. The mayor told

1:17:20

the leader she'd

1:17:23

alone. But Chicago people Brad

1:17:25

Meyer came from Phoenix. Steve Dow was

1:17:27

from Detroit -- Yeah. --

1:17:30

and actually started in Detroit.

1:17:34

God, he did start in the tree. He wants to work somewhere else

1:17:36

first. Maybe he did. He started really

1:17:38

young. He was like seventeen on radio.

1:17:42

Seventeen. And Kevin Matthews is from East Lance

1:17:44

in your Grand Rapids. Grand Rapids.

1:17:46

Love Kevin. Kevin's great. 8 don't

1:17:48

know what's what's going on with

1:17:50

Kevin Matthews. The last podcasting. I was listening to his

1:17:52

podcast and I swear I got it. The last time

1:17:54

I heard was when he spent sixteen minutes

1:17:57

having Jim Schwartz open the Christmas present, and

1:18:00

I thought it was,

1:18:01

like, thirty seconds in. I was, like, oh,

1:18:03

this is gonna get annoying. And then

1:18:05

eleven minutes in, I was, like, no,

1:18:07

this is really good. I was laughing really.

1:18:09

It was so I mean, it was very Andy Kaufman esque.

1:18:11

Yeah. And he he was

1:18:15

very very special guy. But, yeah, I know he had some illness. I hope he's doing

1:18:17

well because I loved him. I thought he was

1:18:19

just fantastic in that lineup with Johnny

1:18:21

b and Kevin and Steven

1:18:23

Gary was just stellar. And

1:18:26

then, they used to make fun of this guy Eddie Schwartz on WGN, like nonstop

1:18:32

across the board. It was, like, they made

1:18:34

fun of them every day. It was, like, settling John and Mhmm. And then they hired for overnights.

1:18:37

Really? Yes. Well,

1:18:40

they did.

1:18:40

And people were so amused by him from them making fun

1:18:42

of him that I think it actually kinda worked. Well, it

1:18:45

looks like last year he

1:18:47

was on Jim Short did

1:18:50

picks on somebody's show. They had Oh, he

1:18:52

did

1:18:52

picks. Yeah. Who show? Let's see.

1:18:55

It's a GN show. Dave

1:18:58

Pieapplier. Pigskin, Pigs. Yeah. Wow. I

1:19:00

hear it. Jim Shorts. Yeah. I wouldn't mind hearing Jim

1:19:02

Shorts. Oh, pretty good. Let's see. There's cubs. It's

1:19:05

cubs. It can't

1:19:08

be bad. Come on.

1:19:10

Because you had the party

1:19:10

started. If we knew this whole long intro, we jumped forward. Yep. For two and

1:19:15

a half hours. There's no food

1:19:18

-- No. -- and it's just nothing to drink coffee is warm, and there's

1:19:23

one diet fresca. I know it

1:19:25

put you in. Oh, drench. It's the highest question. You know?

1:19:27

Yeah. Yeah.

1:19:28

I don't know. But we did

1:19:29

remove the food

1:19:30

from there because nobody wanted you touching

1:19:34

anything in there that anyone else I breathed all over

1:19:36

it. Okay. I breathed on it. I touched

1:19:38

it. I didn't need any of it.

1:19:41

Mhmm. So whoever comes in the

1:19:42

morning, they're gonna get I don't know. It's gonna be man for Deanie. He's

1:19:44

gonna get sick now. Oh, the guy

1:19:46

that fixes toilets, the home guy.

1:19:50

Yeah. Yeah. Simplify that

1:19:51

to his Hey, Lamborghini. fix my toilets. Manfredini.

1:19:53

Yeah. Manfredini. What You're

1:19:55

a buyout. By the way, you

1:19:57

sent me a buy I know what you did. I know I know

1:19:59

what career you

1:20:00

know. You said you were Kevin's on air

1:20:02

partner and he'd be nothing without you.

1:20:04

You actually said that in

1:20:06

your Yeah. He he Kevin would

1:20:09

be nothing without me. Speedball, his plan

1:20:11

higher, Gary Meyer --

1:20:14

Yeah. -- dot nobody would

1:20:16

be anything. So And you know why I'm mad at you

1:20:18

-- Yeah. -- because I was gonna check-in

1:20:19

every week for the Chicago bears.

1:20:22

I was gonna tell you who's gonna

1:20:24

win. You did it

1:20:26

twice, the first two games, and then you blew me off. And hit a bears, Nagy's gonna get fired.

1:20:29

And they're up

1:20:32

in minutes showed up. It's

1:20:34

the last game. They're out of the playoffs. They suck, and you call me up. Yeah.

1:20:36

But you know

1:20:37

why? I'm

1:20:38

gonna compliment you on something. Seriously?

1:20:41

8? Your record because I've

1:20:43

been watched. So if you haven't seen the

1:20:46

pig

1:20:46

skinpicks, it's on Kevin Matthews' Facebook page.

1:20:48

Nice that he does that for you.

1:20:50

I

1:20:51

hope you're appreciative of that. But

1:20:53

your record and your calls have been

1:20:55

ridiculously impressive. I'm I'm twelve and

1:20:57

five. And I'm not just on

1:21:00

stupid Kevin's Facebook

1:21:03

page. I'm on every page Instagram,

1:21:05

Twitter all over. Yeah. I'm

1:21:07

the best gambling

1:21:10

Vegas

1:21:11

winner. This year. How is his character still wanting to

1:21:12

fix it for today? No. No. Like, that annoying

1:21:15

sports talk version just

1:21:17

hasn't changed. There was a time when when Jim got

1:21:19

burned really Mhmm. Jim shorts.

1:21:22

Yeah. And and

1:21:25

he would be talking

1:21:27

into I I mean, it sounded so real like the gauze would

1:21:29

move or something. And it was I think

1:21:31

he was recovering

1:21:33

for quite a while, if I remember correctly.

1:21:35

But it really seemed real like a bit. Oh, they're

1:21:37

going to gym and he's still burned. Geez. I hope

1:21:39

he's okay. That's

1:21:42

a great character. used to do they used take conferences and insert Jim

1:21:45

in all the questions. Yeah. It was

1:21:47

really good. Oh, wonder if we could find

1:21:49

one of those. That reminds of the story

1:21:51

he's telling you about before we started

1:21:53

today talking about hotcakes and, you know, putting things out there in

1:21:55

the world of sports. Dick Vietel does

1:21:57

that kind of thing

1:22:00

on Twitter. You

1:22:03

know, Dick White House does

1:22:05

it kind of the whole magic Johnson

1:22:07

or RG3. Robert Griffin

1:22:09

does this too where when they tweet about a

1:22:11

game, they just tell you what's happening in the game.

1:22:13

Okay. Like the lions just scored a

1:22:15

touchdown. They're playing really

1:22:17

well. That's not not not an offer much.

1:22:20

No. Not at all. So Vital on

1:22:22

Thursday tweets this out at ten thirty

1:22:24

at night. In an important NFL matchup,

1:22:26

the lions lead the packers fifteen to six early in the fourth quarter. Aaron Rogers has thrown interceptions

1:22:28

in the red zone. The

1:22:30

lion's d has been super. So

1:22:35

he's been watching the entire game -- Yeah, babies. -- live

1:22:37

tweeting a replay of the first

1:22:40

Lions PACCAR's games because

1:22:42

there was no Thursday night

1:22:44

football. That's so funny. Because he got

1:22:46

he got even better. The game

1:22:48

seems fully amused. I mean,

1:22:50

he's very entertained by it. And

1:22:53

he probably knew that the lions packers were playing this week. Yeah. Right. But just I don't know

1:22:55

why he wouldn't know He would know. He would know he'd put it on

1:22:57

Thursday. So he pulled that

1:22:59

tweet down and then I

1:23:02

think a half hour after that he wrote. I was

1:23:04

absolutely fooled, hysterical. I thought the

1:23:06

lion's bagger game was played tonight.

1:23:08

Give me a turnover,

1:23:10

baby. I'm the frog, baby. You gotta

1:23:12

love it. He owns this stupid mistake. That's pretty funny.

1:23:14

The craziest thing

1:23:15

about this is I actually did that

1:23:17

last night. I

1:23:19

swear to you. Last night, I

1:23:21

went to Frank and Moove with my family. And I'm at the

1:23:23

bar. I'm watching the bangles in the

1:23:26

ray. The bar. Yeah. Why

1:23:29

is the bar replaying a dead game? So there's it was a

1:23:31

little game. Wasn't there? Right. Yeah. There were actual games. No. I

1:23:33

would've been sucked in, Brad. I have

1:23:35

to admit, because I yes,

1:23:37

Yvonne. Oh my god. There's NFL games. I wasn't really watching them, but if one had appeared before me at

1:23:39

a bar, I would have assumed, oh my god.

1:23:42

This game's on great.

1:23:44

Right? So I'm staring me at another guy.

1:23:47

Dude, I don't even know. We're watching this game because I'm like, oh my god. Look at Jackson's back. Holy

1:23:49

crap. I thought he

1:23:51

was injured. And I

1:23:54

knew there were Saturday games. It just so happened

1:23:56

this bar in Frank booth was

1:23:58

running, like, the NFL network or something

1:24:01

that was just running an oil in

1:24:03

Frank booth. Yeah. Yeah. What a what a delight? Yeah. Little

1:24:05

girl

1:24:05

little girls wanna go swimings.

1:24:08

Yeah.

1:24:09

But she drove drove the frenken booth. What if the

1:24:11

girls wanna see snow, like, next Dead light.

1:24:14

Total that's snowing in Idaho. You go not

1:24:16

in a flime out there? With that. With cold

1:24:18

burgers, dead. Elvis did that with Lisa Marie. She said I don't wanna

1:24:21

see his nose. I'll just get that Lisa

1:24:23

Marie fired up and we'll flying

1:24:25

out there. But it's also

1:24:27

going to Utah. Sounds like brand new. She could see

1:24:29

snow. She made a snowball and they flew home. The girls wanted to go swim, but dad wanted to go

1:24:31

to the park. It was a

1:24:34

festival of worlds. That's great.

1:24:37

You said a guy came up to you

1:24:39

and ruined it. Right? Yo. Yeah. Eventually, after about ten or fifteen minutes of watching, it's with

1:24:43

another guy that he this this random dude and I are

1:24:45

having conversations about this old game, like, oh, wow. Just so he sucked in too. Yeah. This other guy sucked

1:24:48

in. And then some dude comes in for

1:24:50

a drink and he and he just points.

1:24:52

He goes, They play tomorrow.

1:24:54

And and I'm like, who? And he's like, bangles. Why do you need something like that? Right now. Why do

1:24:57

you need to

1:25:00

do that? Well, first of all, why is he listening

1:25:02

why is he spending so much time listening to your conversation about the

1:25:03

game? That's a good point. But I finally got you.

1:25:06

And I was like,

1:25:08

oh, god.

1:25:08

We're not watching a real game. If you tell the guy to keep his rabbit ears

1:25:11

to himself, I mean, he ruined the game, you guys could have enjoyed the rest of

1:25:13

it. I'm kinda no.

1:25:16

Because if he wouldn't have said anything. I might have

1:25:18

been sucked into watching, you know. He should've been doing it. He should've he knew the outcome. He

1:25:20

should've gambled on it

1:25:23

with you. That's true. When

1:25:25

you're just a ridiculous odds. I'm I'm dicks by telephony. Did okay.

1:25:27

I don't think anybody saw twenty twenty besides me.

1:25:29

Did anybody happen to

1:25:32

see this story about Jay.

1:25:34

Family. Right? Yeah. I did not. I didn't see the whole show. This is really interesting.

1:25:36

I it's one of those

1:25:38

ones again where I feel like

1:25:42

we make it so hard

1:25:44

to nail people because

1:25:46

what happened

1:25:47

was, starting out, you've

1:25:50

got the parents the father's Antonio

1:25:52

Armstrong senior, he actually played in

1:25:54

the NFL, not long, just for, like,

1:25:56

season. He was in practice squad a couple

1:25:58

years. No. He wasn't very good. What were stats? Four

1:26:00

games, and I don't think he did shit. But I was trying to

1:26:03

look up his college stats because he was a star

1:26:05

at Texas A and M. In fact, he

1:26:07

was the most valuable defensive player

1:26:09

in the Cotton Bowl in ninety four. Yeah. Ninety six. Did he

1:26:11

play with Dan Campbell? No. Dan Campbell. Was Dan Campbell? Was he

1:26:14

a little later than that, I think?

1:26:16

Drew. 8 I

1:26:19

can't find his college stats. I'm looking him up

1:26:21

for you. It's either Anthony or Antonio

1:26:24

Armstrong. Oh, senior. That's

1:26:26

probably what I didn't put

1:26:28

in. Anyway, so he had

1:26:30

three Saxx, and I gave me his not her name. Blah, blah, blah, blah, star Texan. I'm picking the sixth round

1:26:32

by the forty niners.

1:26:35

He marries this woman who

1:26:38

had had a a little boy when she

1:26:40

was fifteen. Mhmm. So she's got a

1:26:43

little baggage. And then they

1:26:45

have two kids, they have AJ, who's

1:26:47

named after Antonio and they have

1:26:49

a daughter who's twelve in

1:26:51

two thousand sixteen. A. J. Is

1:26:53

sixteen and his brother I think

1:26:56

is nineteen. He lives

1:26:58

with his girlfriend a few blocks away. Okay. So the the way the story starts

1:27:04

is Their

1:27:07

wealthy family by the really Antonio

1:27:09

started gym, a bunch of gyms, like

1:27:11

a chain of

1:27:14

gyms, super successful. So nine eleven

1:27:16

gets a call at one forty in the morning

1:27:18

on July the twenty ninth, and it's AJ

1:27:21

the sixteen year

1:27:24

old says he heard gunshots and saw a masked man.

1:27:26

Actually, no. He didn't say saw a masked man. So he say he heard gunshots

1:27:28

and he's, you know,

1:27:30

freaked out and all that.

1:27:32

Although he sounds very pretty calm on the call. It's

1:27:34

like a sixteen minute call. Mhmm. And he doesn't reference the

1:27:37

masked man until the police get there.

1:27:39

And then he says, he

1:27:43

heard gunshots, was going down the stairs,

1:27:45

was, like, four or five steps down, and he

1:27:47

saw a masked man leaving

1:27:51

a house. Okay. It wasn't me.

1:27:53

It was the one armed man, which

1:27:55

kinda seems like maybe the

1:27:57

first thing you'd say. Sure. But

1:27:59

anyway, his parents, his mother's dead, two

1:28:01

gunshots to the head, his father is

1:28:04

hanging, clinging to life with

1:28:06

one gunshot to that he would

1:28:08

die. So the police interview AJ

1:28:10

without an attorney, which, you know,

1:28:12

he didn't do anything

1:28:14

to worry about. Yeah. And

1:28:17

I thought he was if you wanna go to twenty

1:28:19

seven thirty into twenty twenty, you can hear a

1:28:21

little bit of the interview. I just

1:28:23

thought he was abnormally

1:28:28

calm. He just sounded like I just figured

1:28:30

if someone's asking, like, how'd you get

1:28:32

along with your dad? You just

1:28:34

your dad just died or is dying, it would

1:28:36

be really difficult to talk about.

1:28:38

He'd be emotional. I asked him

1:28:41

why did he do that? He said

1:28:43

Nanny, what I need legal counsel for her. He said, I I just want

1:28:45

to tell them whatever they want to know so

1:28:47

they can find out

1:28:50

who did this. I think you think you close relationship

1:28:52

with your parents.

1:28:53

We're, like, really close. Then me and my mom,

1:28:55

like, we I mean, me like

1:28:57

me, my brother and my

1:28:59

sister, like, had our Like

1:29:01

It's so much someone's parents with a shy of a bad thing. Like No one's not

1:29:03

one that

1:29:03

It was just like stuff. He talks

1:29:05

about his relationship is great

1:29:07

with his parents. 8

1:29:10

has no problems with his parents. And what

1:29:13

about dad? Dad was like the

1:29:15

go to firefighting. Any any recent

1:29:17

problems? Any issues between you and

1:29:19

him? Anything like that.

1:29:19

That was great. No. My my

1:29:21

dad's a pretty like a

1:29:23

chill guy.

1:29:23

Everything was fine. You've heard him

1:29:26

in

1:29:26

the past tense, by the way. Oh,

1:29:28

even though he wasn't dead. But that doesn't

1:29:30

work during the interview of AJ, basically wanted to complete a timeline so they basically asked

1:29:35

his whereabouts and what he'd been doing from the that day all

1:29:37

the way through to the time

1:29:39

of the time one one

1:29:41

calls. My mom,

1:29:43

she came back around five Does

1:29:45

he seem like emotional at all? Too

1:29:46

many. No. We all grieve differently though. They went to one of my dad's. He

1:29:49

like, one of my dad's friends, he

1:29:51

fits, but he had So

1:29:54

they were gone

1:29:55

till, like, eight. And then when they got back, I I

1:29:57

went when I went to pick up my little sister

1:29:59

from my grandmother's

1:30:01

house. AJ came pick me up. And he took

1:30:03

me home. He seemed happy, like, always just

1:30:05

in a good mood. We got back to

1:30:07

the

1:30:07

house in my house. Nine or ten?

1:30:09

Yes.

1:30:10

No. They did really well. I said the

1:30:12

alarm. And went upstairs. So I went to bed. My parents

1:30:14

were laying in their bed. I don't know what they're

1:30:15

doing. And I was just upstairs as

1:30:18

well, looking at Flickdale. And

1:30:20

then I it was, like, probably

1:30:22

one or two in ready to go

1:30:24

to bed and I went to the

1:30:27

restroom. When I came out, I

1:30:29

heard the door open, and I haven't been I haven't been feeling well, like, this

1:30:31

whole day. I saw I've been at home. And The diesel came out.

1:30:34

Like, walked downstairs. So I was gonna

1:30:36

ask I

1:30:38

can get some medicine. Mhmm. And I was making my

1:30:40

way down the stairs, and that's when

1:30:42

I heard the gunshots. Now pause

1:30:44

a second. That that's no timing. Sounds

1:30:47

like total bullshit. Just as he's going down to get some

1:30:49

medicine. Oh, what do you know this guy shoots his

1:30:51

parents? What do you know if

1:30:53

he's or she died?

1:30:54

Yeah. So -- Crazy. -- I mean, is he gonna try and

1:30:56

claim it's a home intruder just like

1:30:58

the other guy? Mhmm. And -- What a

1:31:00