1:59

to record even though today we spent

2:02

some time with Christian, the

2:04

guy who made our theme song which is on

2:06

the big edit of the episodes, and

2:09

some American guests and then some other friends.

2:11

And it turns out that one of my people that I know has

2:14

a cool story for you which is

2:16

relevant to this war. Because

2:19

for obvious reasons we're protecting their personality,

2:22

I'll just be calling them by their

2:27

military nickname so to speak. It's not exactly an Incanime,

2:29

it's a call sign, but you know what I mean. I

2:32

think we called them Bones. However if you

2:34

remember I think about

2:37

a year ago, like a half year ago

2:39

maybe, I think it was a while ago basically,

2:41

some people here in Latvia were arrested as

2:44

they were accused of

2:48

basically gathering people around for the Wagner

2:50

group to serve

2:53

in the Wagner group. I

2:56

have the story of a person who

3:00

despite them working

3:02

in the military it sometimes doesn't work

3:04

out and they view it through

3:06

other jobs and

3:09

things happen. But

3:11

we have the story of someone who

3:13

has been actively

3:16

searched out by the Wagner group. Sure

3:18

Wagner group is now gone, however

3:20

we have Redut and other private

3:22

military companies in Khabirov to anyone else

3:25

and they do seek out contacts outside

3:29

of Russia because

3:31

of the lack of skilled personnel and

3:35

certain positions on the battlefield which

3:38

play significant role and

3:40

give tactical advantage to the side that has more

3:43

of them so to speak. And I'm not very competent

3:45

to talk about this in depth but

3:48

I'm sure my friend here will let you

3:50

know. Ok Bones, what

3:52

exactly is your skill set and

3:54

what do you do for our army? Just

3:56

think short as much as you can tell us.

3:59

Well first of all, greetings everybody. In

4:02

short, my skill set requires

4:05

me to walk within the heavier artillery

4:08

kind of stuff. Meaning

4:11

I need to have full control over not

4:13

only skill set that requires

4:15

me to be within the usual

4:19

light infantry stuff, but as well walking

4:22

within high calibre stuff, including

4:24

like mortars and you

4:27

probably get it off and that stuff.

4:30

I suppose 155 calibre and

4:32

everything. Okay, and stop worrying.

4:34

We're fine here. I know you're a bit nervous.

4:37

It's cool. So

4:39

what happened when we were on the way?

4:42

This is recording my home, by the way, just so you know. When

4:44

we were on the way, you told

4:47

me that you were working in a

4:49

pub as your part-time

4:51

job and then there was this client.

4:54

So what happened? Like

4:57

whom did you meet and how did the conversation start

5:00

and what happened? Basically give us

5:02

the intro, the juicy bits.

5:04

Alrighty, so

5:07

summer 2021, a little bit

5:09

before summer solstice, I think.

5:12

June. 21 or 22? 21, I

5:15

think 21, right. A little

5:17

bit before the solstice. I

5:20

was walking sort of a side job because

5:22

at that time I decided to take

5:24

more of our, you know, a little

5:26

bit more the central within the military

5:29

stuff as I wanted to kind of indulge

5:32

a little bit in the civilian life. And

5:37

botending has been quite a bit of

5:39

my thing for quite a bit of time

5:42

and we have this one sort

5:44

of frequent cross-semitse, so. The

5:47

guy appeared around

5:50

the same time actually as when I started walking.

5:53

All the guy, a little

5:55

bit of a beard for me, you know,

5:58

the usual balding.

7:59

hated to as well because

8:02

usually we get these like you know young hipster

8:04

type kind of people there and

8:07

this guy well very clearly he was

8:09

in his 50s to 60s he

8:12

certainly shouldn't have been

8:14

there on his own choice by

8:17

what I'm guessing so that was the first

8:19

red flag to me I'm just like already

8:22

what is this guy doing here ordering

8:24

straight water shots at a bar that specializes

8:27

in well beer especially

8:29

craft beer right so

8:32

we talk

8:34

we go through the same all you know

8:36

customers like hey what's

8:38

the name what are you doing here why

8:41

are here he

8:42

doesn't really want

8:44

to reveal much about him

8:45

safe all that he represented

8:48

him himself as was

8:50

the nickname of Volodya

8:54

Volodya is short

8:56

for Vlodimir just so you know it's Vlodimir

8:59

also known as Signor

9:01

yeah but we keep

9:04

on talking I'm trying to clear these tables

9:06

my manager is already getting quite a

9:08

bit fed up with me because I'm taking

9:10

a long time and he

9:13

suddenly mentions that hey

9:15

well you don't look like you really belong

9:18

here this isn't the place you

9:20

usually walk at right

9:23

well it's what like 1 a.m. at

9:25

that point in summer's nights on like oh

9:28

yeah this isn't like the place

9:30

I'm used to really I walk in

9:32

a completely different sphere I'm just

9:35

trying new things out right and

9:38

my man my guy Volodya

9:40

really he had quite a bit of talking

9:43

spiritually which is I think what landed him

9:45

that position he

9:48

starts asking me like really

9:50

diligently he's really trying to dig

9:52

in there like what are you doing you look

9:54

like you know you look

9:56

like a nifty little person you're small

9:59

by

9:59

but you do have quite

10:02

a bit of a fighting spirit there. And you

10:06

know, when somebody tells somebody that looks like me, that,

10:09

oh, you have quite a bit of a fighting

10:11

spirit there, right? Yeah, that's

10:13

not gonna lead to anything, you know, something's

10:15

behind the skin.

10:17

And we keep on talking,

10:21

and he's like, well,

10:23

I used to serve in the military, I'm

10:25

still kind of walking with my own stuff right

10:27

now, and I'm immediately,

10:30

they've got military, my interest

10:32

goes through the roof. I'm

10:35

like, oh, military, yeah, right,

10:37

so what did you do? I'm pulling

10:39

my best, like, this typical white girl

10:42

who's into military guy's impression.

10:45

And as it turns out, he did used

10:48

to serve in the Soviet

10:50

army, and...

10:52

That

10:53

by itself would be like nothing unusual

10:55

for people his age, just so you know, just

10:57

because if you're like 55 or 60, you're probably

11:00

like my parents' age, and you have served

11:02

there. So that alone would

11:05

not be suspicious, I think. But just have to mention this,

11:07

that the fact that he mentions Soviet military

11:09

specifically, yeah, that draws attention instantly, because

11:14

everyone has done so since I was

11:17

born in 1989. I'm 34 now,

11:19

and people who are older than me definitely saw

11:21

the end of the Afghanistan war, and all that good stuff

11:24

that came with it. So, I specifically

11:27

mentioned the Soviet stuff that gives you some

11:30

hints,

11:31

which you can

11:33

understand quite easily if you know how to read them, so

11:35

to speak. Because otherwise, if you

11:38

just said, I've served, then

11:40

you probably instantly know already where he has served.

11:43

So that's that little tiny, nifty

11:45

detail that I have down here. But please,

11:47

I'll carry on.

11:48

Yeah, to further, to a good enough

11:50

point, even so, my

11:52

own father who is born within

11:55

the 50s, also had

11:57

served, I've heard quite a lot of stories

11:59

from him. him. But to see

12:02

that's kind of it, like that

12:04

age of a guy with his complexion

12:07

and his dressing style and the

12:09

demeanor in general that he had. There

12:13

was

12:15

really an immediate red fire that I

12:17

kept questioning but trying to

12:19

keep my cool because my...well

12:21

thank god for NATO training

12:24

really. But I kept

12:27

in my own head questioning like oh this

12:31

is really sketchy right?

12:32

So we

12:35

keep on the talk. It's

12:40

fine, we've had worse.

12:43

And slowly but

12:45

surely this guy

12:47

keeps on steering

12:51

the direction of the conversation

12:53

within the military type of stuff.

12:57

And

13:00

I'm listening

13:00

to him. He was actually quite a bit

13:03

of a ram-like type which

13:05

was I don't know both surprising

13:07

and not really that surprising

13:09

for me personally because

13:13

he did make a point of

13:15

flexing so to say all of his

13:17

achievements and medals at this

13:20

point which I cannot remember anymore

13:22

because really at this

13:25

point what do they give out in medals?

13:28

Not much really.

13:30

And

13:32

we keep on this conversation for the

13:35

first time I'm saying this. Suddenly

13:37

he brings up the

13:39

fact that he

13:42

thinks that I might be the kind

13:44

of person to deal

13:46

with heavy

13:48

stuff. As to say

13:51

he did say it in Russian which I

13:53

want to bring a direct translation to

13:56

but he said specifically heavy

13:58

artillery or

13:59

munition stuff. You

14:03

clearly cannot see me, but I

14:05

am quite a bit of a skinny type

14:07

of a person. I'm really dainty

14:10

in general. And

14:13

most of the times when people do see

14:16

me, the assumption is completely opposite.

14:18

So clearly, that is another

14:21

alarm bell in my hand.

14:22

Yeah, let me just explain this to you because

14:24

you can't see bones here. They're

14:28

not the type that you would associate

14:30

with military work at all, instantly.

14:34

They're very competent

14:36

in terms of that. However, I've

14:39

seen documents

14:40

that really prove to me that they

14:43

are a part of our military. For

14:45

example, we were just sitting

14:47

in the pub and complaining about our inventory

14:50

notices. But on any day

14:52

notice, if they're

14:55

working in a bar, and

14:57

I thought we'd just walk

15:00

up, this is not the stereotypical person

15:02

that we're talking about. This is not someone who's

15:05

just there and doing

15:07

his hoorah and all this stuff and just flagging

15:10

and flashing around their military experience. No,

15:12

no, no. We're talking about a person

15:14

that doesn't look like

15:16

the stereotypical military person. And

15:19

you would have to dig through quite a

15:22

lot of history to actually even figure

15:24

this one out.

15:25

However,

15:27

at this point in history, Wagner

15:29

Group is working in Mali,

15:32

Wagner Group is working in Central African

15:34

Republic, and also the war

15:36

in Ukraine is being prepared. Now that

15:38

we know that previously, we really didn't, but Wagner

15:41

Group at this point had acquired artillery and

15:43

they had acquired airplanes.

15:46

And they are, well, as much as they

15:48

can recruit prisoners for infantry

15:51

long work on the front lines, it's really hard for

15:53

them to get a hold of good specialists.

15:56

And as they know that over here in Latvia,

15:59

we have a lot of people

17:40

quite

18:00

considerable in our armed

18:02

forces which I've been already warned

18:05

against about at that point

18:08

but I'm trying to please go I'm going

18:10

like oh really why so? He

18:13

at least said I

18:16

just look

18:16

like that right? So

18:19

we continued a conversation and he's

18:21

like well you just

18:24

admitted like that you have walked

18:26

within the military sphere right? Why

18:29

are you walking in a bar? And I'm pretty

18:31

much covering up the fact that

18:33

I just want to actually arrest from

18:35

the military atmosphere I just

18:37

want to like you know at that point I'm

18:40

really young I still want to experience civilian

18:42

life

18:44

and

18:44

I tell him like

18:48

oh it's just time right? Let

18:50

him underestimate us that's the best

18:52

case scenario at that point

18:54

and he's like well yeah just

18:57

full on stuff trash talking

18:59

really or military and

19:02

all that I can do at that point

19:05

is well smile and nod really

19:07

as ridiculous as it sounds

19:10

I can only smile and nod otherwise

19:13

cover is blown and he will be

19:15

suspicious thankfully this man is

19:18

quite a few shots in and

19:22

as we continue the conversation

19:24

he's starting to mention that well

19:26

you don't need to work for that military

19:29

right? We have better

19:31

options out there right? Russian military

19:33

is great right? Right?

19:37

And it's really getting to the point where

19:39

it's like you know I think a

19:42

lot of young people are gonna relate to this ridiculous

19:44

thing but it's kind of like in

19:46

dating side to encounter

19:49

a sugar daddy and they are

19:51

gonna try to convince me until the

19:53

end of the times that they are better

19:55

and their things are better and

19:58

you very well know that that. isn't the case,

20:01

right?

20:01

Well,

20:03

as we keep on talking, he

20:05

casually mentions that, you know, actually,

20:09

if you're really into this stuff,

20:11

since you seem so, like, dead

20:14

onto it, because I, as much as

20:16

I was trying to keep my front on,

20:19

unfortunately my emotional side is not

20:21

that much of a letting on type

20:23

there, so I was sort of, like, staying

20:26

on my little front line of, well,

20:29

yeah, it might be a little bit shabby,

20:31

but, well, this is my country, I love

20:33

what I do right now. I

20:35

don't see no issue with it. And

20:39

he suddenly mentions that, well,

20:42

you could walk for my

20:44

force right now as well, if

20:46

you're really interested. I'm not forcing you

20:48

into it, right, but I

20:50

have an opportunity that you might be interested

20:53

in, right?

20:55

And my interest peaks up, but

20:58

if it was at, like, a good 100 times

21:00

peak of interest, now there's a

21:03

thousand times more peak interest.

21:05

So

21:07

I'm trying to drag this,

21:09

like, table closing

21:11

down and collecting on as much as

21:13

I can, and I'm listening to

21:15

this guy and I keep on, like, asking

21:18

cautiously, like, oh, really? Well,

21:23

what do you do, really? Like, what do you

21:25

classify as? Because as far as he

21:27

knows, I am, I am a fresh

21:29

recruit. I do have some knowledge,

21:32

but, you know, I'm fresh. I can,

21:34

I can be molded into whatever you

21:37

want me to be molded into.

21:39

And suddenly

21:41

he drops that, well,

21:44

currently we have, well,

21:47

we have some spaces in Central

21:49

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21:52

not clean work, really, it is not

21:54

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21:56

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21:58

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You get paid by

22:52

the head to say so. And

22:55

as much as that disgusted

22:57

me, I'm still trying to keep a straight face.

23:01

And I'm continuing to process

23:03

on like, oh, really? Well,

23:06

what's the pay then? Like, you... Well,

23:08

I mean, you caught on, right? I need that money,

23:10

right?

23:12

And well,

23:14

folks, you are here to hear it first.

23:17

They offer 10,000

23:18

euros

23:21

per a head in Central Africa.

23:25

Well,

23:25

that sort of makes sense because once again,

23:27

in Central Africa Republic, our good old friend, Gregorzen,

23:31

he's been hiring for a while at that point.

23:33

And also he has the control of

23:35

the gold mines and the diamond mines and,

23:37

oh boy, a bunch of other profitable

23:40

businesses. And again, this is summer 2021.

23:43

War is coming. Things are getting a bit

23:46

interesting. So

23:50

this Central African stuff, how

23:52

did exactly do you went

23:55

out of the situation, I suppose? Because

23:57

as far as I know, you're not interested in working

23:59

for. well Russians especially

24:02

since the war was very much upcoming

24:04

and unlike you guys in the West oh

24:06

yeah we hear at least as far as

24:08

I've been told by my other military friends everyone

24:10

here knew that something was coming

24:12

quite frankly

24:15

to say so myself I've never really

24:17

had the quite a good

24:19

even in diplomatic terms I've never

24:21

had a good relationship with the Russian

24:24

army type of things going on the

24:27

only exit to this

24:29

situation was to keep the

24:32

situation going until

24:34

you can get to an exit it's like having a crash

24:36

course on them quite

24:37

frankly an auto one

24:40

right you know you're going to a

24:42

crash course you need to get to the wing

24:45

of this road to get

24:47

to some sort of a stop so

24:49

I kept on frankly leading

24:51

on this guy trying to get more and more

24:54

information out of them what

24:57

I did find out at this point this is

25:00

unclassified information that is available

25:02

on the internet so if anybody comes

25:04

for me

25:06

thank you and sorry at that point

25:08

look look if they're gonna come

25:10

for anything here it's probably gonna be me at this

25:12

point because it is what it

25:14

is we're pretty much a Langley

25:17

Langley take notes email

25:20

me if you want contact but but

25:22

it's fine

25:23

yeah but what

25:26

he presented me was 24

25:29

month deal with the options

25:32

prolong it where I would

25:34

get deployed to the

25:36

Central Africa and

25:39

in which I would not get paid for

25:42

food well I would get like

25:44

provided food I would not get

25:47

paid for food I would not get

25:49

paid for travel however

25:51

I would get paid for

25:54

the amount of people

25:56

that well the

25:58

heads that I would bring

25:59

which is foremost part

26:02

as I've learned is politicians,

26:05

influential figures, anybody

26:07

that's standing in the way of the

26:10

group and

26:12

whoever they've been contracted for.

26:15

And at that point, this guy is

26:17

still not mentioning who are

26:20

they, who are the people that's

26:23

either contracting them or who

26:25

even are they as themselves. So

26:29

this is the most interesting part and

26:32

what has stayed in my memory the most

26:34

clearly, it's like burned in.

26:36

I turn to him as I'm

26:38

clearing off the last tables and ask

26:40

him like, well, this

26:42

all seems interesting. I am

26:44

considering, however, you

26:47

know, like, you know, military stuff,

26:49

you know, I need to know who am I going

26:51

to be walking for at that point. And

26:56

he drinks his tiny

26:58

little drop of vodka that has been left

27:00

in his shot, which has been not

27:04

really relevant information that he

27:06

took vodka with black pepper, a

27:09

very Russian

27:10

thing to do, really. And

27:13

he looks at me and goes, well,

27:16

you seem like you like music, right? And

27:19

I kind of nod along like,

27:21

well, yeah, I play piano myself, actually. He's

27:24

like, well, that's excellent. Do you

27:26

know classic

27:27

musicians?

27:28

Of course I do. Yeah, who wouldn't

27:31

know classic musicians? Do

27:34

you know one of our like, best

27:37

companies, really? You

27:41

know what I'm talking about, right? And

27:44

I kind of stop in this point, I'm halfway

27:46

picking up Pine's glass and

27:48

I sort of side-eye him.

27:52

And he is looking

27:54

at me and he knows that I know and I

27:56

know that he knows that I know. And he's

27:59

like... Have you ever learned anything

28:01

by

28:04

Wagner really?

28:07

And I have this

28:09

brief moment of silence where

28:11

I understand like, well,

28:14

crap. Crap.

28:17

This, so this is where I've been led

28:19

to sort of in my tiny

28:21

little corner of the brain. I've kind of believed like,

28:24

you know, maybe this is one of those

28:26

all like post Soviet

28:29

burp men that really just wants

28:31

to buff up their ego.

28:34

They want to get that little attention

28:37

that they're craving, right? But at that

28:39

point I realized, yeah,

28:40

he's from there.

28:43

Yeah, that's the thing I like

28:45

to say that first of all, sadly, I know what you're

28:47

talking about because I've met those kind of people. Talking

28:51

to them, not pleasant at all. Secondly,

28:53

um, what

28:55

cast raise a special case. I hate them with

28:57

terrible passion because of how

28:59

they don't end a lot of my celebrations, you

29:02

know, guys, if you listened to the show previously, if

29:04

not, please check out my Midsummer

29:06

fest episode. Secondly,

29:09

um, secondly,

29:12

like I said, I want to, I want to focus on the fact here

29:14

that if you were just walking to a bar, these

29:17

kind of offers would not be the ones that you would make to

29:19

them to bones. So

29:22

this is suspicious as all hell. Finally,

29:25

this is exactly why these people got arrested

29:27

before. They scout out this stuff. This is

29:29

exactly by the KGB handbook and, and

29:32

I'm not showing to bones. I have the

29:34

Victor Svorov book about

29:37

the basis of espionage here. And this is this,

29:39

this fits right in until

29:42

also, uh, another

29:44

thing that I have, which is

29:47

the KGB documents and how they've vetted people

29:49

in the late eighties. Let me just find it here.

29:51

Well, it's there. I'll show it after you. But

29:53

basically, basically

29:56

what's happening here is that they're working softly

29:59

and they're not. pushing anything on to you

30:01

to have plausible liability and

30:04

the things that this this fits

30:07

everything

30:09

and

30:10

Wagner group used to do that a lot

30:13

and this happens in Latvia and

30:16

this is a NATO country and these

30:18

guys got arrested and you know you

30:20

only hear in the news about state security service

30:22

and other responsible people when something

30:25

happens when something like this happens when

30:28

someone gets caught for betting people everything

30:31

but

30:33

for one I know for sure

30:35

that something makes the news about

30:38

you know if internal security service makes

30:40

the news and they have arrested

30:42

someone or thrown someone out that

30:45

was only because they couldn't force

30:47

feed him false information at first no

30:50

one you know it's not like the state security

30:52

service goes to the media right after they

30:54

have found out that someone's a spy they

30:56

do it after they found out someone's a spy they have been feeding

30:59

them for false information they have actually called them

31:01

in the act and once they're not no longer useful

31:03

then they'll go to the media but

31:06

the time is also a fit because those news came

31:09

to us and they

31:11

totally have the war had after the war after

31:13

the war had started

31:14

and

31:16

like I said we're talking about artillery here they

31:19

lack those sort of specialists even

31:22

at this point on the front lines you lack artillery

31:24

men because due to well

31:26

Russian non-commissioned officers

31:29

not being very qualified because they lost all of them in the

31:32

early war and also let me remind you the fact

31:34

that Russia used their non-commissioned officers were

31:36

supposed to be their training guys yeah

31:39

they decided that the war is gonna go over so quickly

31:41

that they actually you know made units

31:43

from them and send them to the front lines and so-called

31:45

meat assaults to die which is

31:47

not the sort of thing that you need to

31:50

pull through these the shadow command so

31:53

we're talking about at times here to ensure

31:56

that they have more people that can

31:59

with a specialized skill set which is important here

32:01

that can work there because they

32:03

can get everyone they want that can handle a rifle

32:06

from prisons anyways and

32:08

and this is scary because

32:11

we thought Eastern Europe we're talking about here it's

32:13

our country it's not Russia but

32:16

they just used to walk out in the open I wouldn't be surprised

32:18

if someone like something

32:20

similar what happens say in Romania or Estonia

32:23

or Lithuania it's

32:25

just that if you haven't heard about these guys

32:27

being discovered in the news then

32:29

you should be sort of worried because they definitely

32:32

exist and maybe not now but

32:35

some of them definitely have switched over because we have a

32:37

group called the redoot who are

32:39

now hiring one group soldiers and mass and

32:42

they are funded by no less than gospel goes

32:44

from itself so that's

32:46

that's weird but about this guy

32:49

what did you tell him did you just tell him to like digital

32:52

think a bit that that you're gonna ponder

32:54

over this or how did you get out of the conversation

32:57

because at this point it's pretty scary for

32:59

you and and and like does

33:01

he want an answer right now did you give you

33:04

a number or vertical or something

33:06

matter of fact

33:09

what really well what

33:12

he's arrested frankly say soon

33:14

because well I was

33:15

trying to keep reserved I

33:18

did say

33:18

the wonderful phase well

33:23

I'm really interested I'd like to think

33:25

it over really right and

33:28

well this old man God bless

33:31

his heart may he rot in jail

33:33

all the respect he

33:36

was like well you seem like a

33:39

wise person you really

33:41

do seem so

33:43

I think maybe you'd like to

33:45

mind

33:45

me to saw that small

33:48

train

33:48

really we have really

33:51

cool training and hand-to-hand combat

33:54

and once again bless his heart at this

33:57

point I am one of the best trains

33:59

hand-to-hand combat soldiers

34:02

we have on the unit. But

34:05

once again I don't look at the boat,

34:06

so I go, yeah actually

34:09

it's been, you know, you know, you're trying to

34:11

be just here, like near Solkut

34:13

and Smoloskosi

34:15

and all of that. I'm

34:17

keeping on the spiel of this innocent

34:19

little teen person going on.

34:23

So

34:23

he's like, oh yeah you

34:25

can try this, I'm gonna give you my

34:27

number.

34:28

And my name is

34:31

The Monk.

34:33

The Monk, what an epic nickname

34:35

really. I know my nickname at this

34:37

point in my coleslaw

34:40

as well is quite

34:42

a bit of a cringe face in an epic face

34:45

as well. But to be called

34:47

The Monk, that's a whole other

34:49

level. But

34:52

either way, he gives me his number.

34:54

I say my farewells to

34:56

him and at that point my ball manager,

34:59

frankly, he's really like, she's like

35:01

real pissed at that point. He's

35:03

calling me inside, I continue my walk

35:05

and for the last half

35:08

an hour that I was finishing walk he

35:10

was still sitting outside.

35:12

And I'm processing all of the stuff

35:15

that he said to me and

35:17

I realized that, well,

35:21

this wasn't just him

35:24

being a customer. He

35:26

knew me.

35:27

He knew me way more

35:30

than anybody should know. He

35:32

knew me on a level that only my

35:36

mates would know within my

35:38

service members.

35:40

And frankly that left

35:42

the question, who gave him

35:45

this information? And

35:47

as per our service rules, or max age limit does not expend

35:50

much before.

35:53

after,

36:01

excuse me, after 40 years

36:03

old this man was already,

36:08

well after his 50s, 60s rather

36:11

even

36:12

and

36:14

this conversational theatre

36:16

left me really shook about how did

36:19

he get this information, how

36:21

did he even like get

36:25

his really

36:28

knowingness of everything that's

36:30

going on here, how did he get

36:32

to know where I'm walking as even my

36:34

colleagues from military did not know

36:37

where I'm walking at that point and all

36:42

that it really gave to me

36:44

was the knowledge that the

36:47

less you think you know the smarter you are

36:51

and all that it led to

36:53

in the final result was he

36:55

left. I did text him

36:58

a couple of times to like do a little

37:00

mock of like oh can

37:02

I go to your dojo and your

37:04

gym too you know.

37:05

He promised

37:08

me I could learn something, you know, a lot of stuff like

37:11

that. The result is a

37:14

matter of fact again

37:16

this has been the classified information.

37:20

The information that I had given

37:22

of this interaction and

37:24

of the materials and personal information

37:27

had resulted in the arrest of 37 well-personal

37:30

and

37:30

people of the

37:34

Wagner group being arrested in

37:36

our country. I

37:38

unfortunately cannot mention the

37:41

certain amount of people that

37:43

were unfortunately also arrested

37:45

within, well

37:47

other

37:49

types of

37:53

their knowledge and people

37:55

who are technically contacting as my

37:58

colleagues. the

38:00

results at that point when I got

38:03

the information back after

38:05

making this initial report, I'd

38:08

say they were quite

38:10

grim and they did do

38:12

quite a bit of an eye opener to me as

38:15

well as much as I am a qualified

38:17

personal of my own armed forces.

38:24

It opened a wall, another

38:26

realm of possibilities that

38:28

could happen and that is happening

38:30

in the world including in Ukraine

38:33

at which point I obviously

38:35

at that point already I thought I

38:38

knew a lot. However,

38:43

that really made me think about

38:45

what's going on in the country and

38:48

upon further inspection

38:50

and further interviews I

38:53

had

38:55

unfortunately found

38:57

out that Wagner is

38:59

quite active within all of the Baltic

39:02

countries including and

39:05

as well including

39:07

Poland

39:08

which is I don't

39:10

know it's just saddening to me

39:13

because they still think that they

39:15

are going to be able to grab some power

39:18

in here.

39:21

Thankfully it's not working really.

39:23

Well, I

39:24

won't poke

39:26

you about this much more because this is a lot to process

39:29

already but well

39:31

thank you and this is something that's really

39:34

unique because you

39:36

don't hear this from normal perspectives because I'm

39:38

pretty sure that other folks who go and

39:41

talk about this

39:43

stuff they go to their officers and everything

39:46

and I

39:48

know you military types you do not like to go

39:50

to my kind of people in the media and talk about

39:53

this stuff so thank you for this and

39:55

that's all you listening out here. Yeah,

39:58

I have all the contacts. This

40:00

source is verifiable, but

40:04

to protect that identity I will

40:07

not be posting any private data.

40:10

However, if you are from a verified

40:13

media company or from a verified military

40:16

intelligence company, because I know you guys listen to me, I

40:19

can give you contact, but you will be vetted.

40:22

That's a very important part here, just so you know. I

40:26

normally refer to my sources

40:28

and everything, and this is one of the cases where

40:30

one of them actually decided to speak here in

40:33

person, which means that

40:36

I must do my best to protect them. And

40:38

if someone else says that I'm

40:41

lying here or that this was not true, well,

40:43

I can give you the sources, but

40:46

again, only if you're vetted and if you can

40:48

ensure security. Just saying. But

40:52

yeah, thank you for being here. This

40:55

is really interesting and just

40:57

shows that you always have to be vigilant and careful

40:59

about whom you speak to, because,

41:02

oh, they know. They know more than you think

41:04

they know. And

41:07

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