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you. in

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schools try to

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kind of squelch that out of people. But

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there are also ways, making

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tools for people to tap into

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their creativity and tap into their

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learning better is I think a net

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positive. And then the question is how do you get more

26:16

people to engage that way? It's

26:19

interesting as an athlete, I

26:22

think of all these guys that I played against

26:24

that were better than me. But

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for whatever reason, family

26:28

issues, financial issues, distraction took

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them out. And

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so I ended up doing pretty well as an athlete,

26:36

but I wasn't really the most, I didn't have the

26:38

most aptitude and he makes the point in

26:40

the book that instead of now in a few hundred

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years, instead of having one Mozart, we could have a thousand.

26:44

Instead of having one Einstein, we could have a thousand.

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And that is one of the great advantages of this is

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that it does level the playing field for those that

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maybe come from a more disadvantaged place or a distracted place,

26:53

a dysfunctional family, a dysfunctional environment.

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My challenge with AI, now we're gonna step

26:58

back on the AI question for you, because

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you Peter Diamantis have sort of this positive

27:03

outlook. I've had Mo Gaudet on who's a

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little bit more trepidatious I think about things.

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And so this last weekend I was in Arizona

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and it just struck me two things happened. One,

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I was at my son's college graduation and

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it was beautiful and proud of him, he graduated with

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honors. And I was sitting there thinking, I

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wonder if this structure exists 20 years from now,

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like a physical place he goes, you go

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through here for four years, there's a ceremony

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at the end, I just sat there wondering,

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am I watching something

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that's gonna disappear? Like

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blockbuster video, for example, right?

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And then we were driving

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out of there and literally on the way

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back, there was a car next to us

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that was an Uber with nobody driving it,

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which is like freaked me out, but I'm looking and going, I don't even know

27:49

that I would get in there, but it has

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replaced the need. We went from taxis to

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Ubers, that was innovative. Didn't need a taxi

27:56

cab driver anymore. Now we don't even need

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the driver. Then when we looked at it, left, we

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were at the airport and I went in and

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there were three people working there, yet they had

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these computers that are AI generated computers where you

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would scan all of your goods, so

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nobody really even checked you out of the store,

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which is an entrepreneur. They still had three people working

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there. I'm thinking, I don't know what these three people

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are doing here. They don't, they're literally just monitoring the

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AI, so to speak, the machine. And

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I thought to myself, long-term, someone who owns one

28:22

of these businesses is not going to pay the driver.

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Long-term you're not going to pay three people to man

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your store. You'll pay one to make sure

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everything doesn't break down. And

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so when it comes to teaching, in the book

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you say, I don't think this eliminates the need

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for teachers. Candidly, I'm

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not sure I'm persuaded to believe that just

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yet. That this technology

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isn't going to completely eliminate or

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wipe out lots of

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different careers and

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sectors of work. So make the case, do

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you believe someone is going to be eliminated

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and why won't it be teachers? So

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I definitely think there's going to be job

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dislocations. And if I were to take even

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an education lens, there are these offices,

29:04

we all remember from like universities, you'd walk down

29:06

these hallways and you're like, what do all these

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people do in these hallways? They weren't professors. There

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were some type of registrar's office or this office

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or that office. I think

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AI will be able to do a lot

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of that work on the teaching side or

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being a professor. It depends what we consider

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being a teacher. If the role of the

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teacher is nothing but giving

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lectures, making assignments and

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grading papers. Yeah,

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I think AI is going to be able to do that. And

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I think the good news is

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that that's going to raise the floor for

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a lot of folks who did not have

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access to world class information, world class practice

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and assessment, world class feedback. AI

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is going to be able to give it that. But I

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think any any great teacher, that's not

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what they are about. They are really

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about forming human connections with their students,

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mentoring their students, acting

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as coaches for them, being able to

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do more small group interventions, being able

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to. orchestrate really

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engaging conversations, simulations, games

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in the classroom. And

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so I think any teacher who indexes there and

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then leverages the AI to do everything else, not

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only are they going to be very relevant, they're gonna be

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very important. And I also think they're gonna enjoy their job

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more than ever. So

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there's a lot of people, including people on

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if there's an industry that needs a revolution, I think you'd

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Nadia was her age now, what

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advice would you be giving with her about the

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rest of her life and her career as it

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relates to this new revolution? Yeah,

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well, my daughter is exactly the age

32:38

that Nadia was. So she's 12. So

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I definitely see the parallels. Yeah.

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But there is something about being the father

32:45

versus the cousin that's not as engaging. So

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I'm dealing with that. But I'm

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still a traditionalist and

32:55

I write about this in the book. I think

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it's even more imperative for someone to be excellent

32:59

at the traditional skills, reading comprehension,

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written and oral communication, solid

33:05

content knowledge, critical

33:07

thinking, mathematical skills. And

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a lot of people say, well, why are you saying that? AI is going

33:13

to be able to do a lot of that. I was like, AI is

33:15

going to need someone to manage it. And

33:17

those who can elevate above the AI or

33:19

at least keep up with the AI, they're

33:22

going to be in the best position to leverage

33:24

the AI. They're going to become wildly productive. And

33:26

there's going to be elements of the AI that, we're talking

33:29

about decades before the AI is going to be good at

33:31

where you're going to need people who interface with

33:33

the real world and interface

33:35

with the AI. But once again, they're going to

33:37

have to understand the work that the AI is doing. They're going to

33:39

have to be able to put those pieces together. But

33:42

to do that, you're going to have to be even better academically

33:44

at all of these things. And there's other areas

33:46

that as we mentioned, it's not traditionally in the

33:48

academic system, entrepreneurship. Entrepreneurship, if

33:50

you think about it as a

33:52

factor of production in economics, the

33:55

ability to put pieces together that

33:57

already exist in ways that create value. that's

34:00

going to be the ultimate skill because there's going to

34:02

be even better pieces to put together, better Lego building

34:05

blocks with the AI. So

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that's what I'm telling my kids, my son

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is finishing his freshman year in

34:11

high school and he loves

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piano, he loves coding. I've

34:16

been encouraging him, look, take your

34:19

piano, compose stuff, maybe use AI

34:21

to make music videos, have

34:23

creative expression for it. For his coding, I'm

34:26

like, look, use AI before

34:29

whatever your aspirations are, you can now

34:31

start making professional level games or applications

34:33

that you didn't even think were possible

34:35

before. I'm also

34:37

encouraging him to teach other people so that

34:39

he builds those very human skills that aren't

34:41

necessarily developed in a traditional academic

34:44

environment. We have a platform, another nonprofit called

34:46

schoolhouse.world, which is all about free tutoring. The

34:48

way that we give free tutoring over Zoom

34:50

is you have vetted volunteer tutors. So I'm

34:52

trying to get him to be a vetted

34:54

volunteer tutor so that he can give back

34:56

and learn to communicate and lead folks. But

34:58

I think if you develop those types of

35:00

skills, you're going to be in good shape. Are

35:03

there any industries, I'm putting you down here,

35:05

any industries that you, with your

35:07

vision, because Khan Academy, even though you say it's,

35:10

I saw this pattern, I kind of stumbled into it, you're

35:13

a visionary, you saw a need, you

35:15

saw where the future was. It's like they say in hockey,

35:18

I don't know if Gretzky was the greatest player, but everybody

35:20

else skates where the puck is, he was skating to where

35:22

the puck was going. Where

35:24

do you think the puck is going in terms of careers?

35:27

Are there industries that you say, this is going to

35:29

be an industry, if you pursued it and chased it,

35:31

you're going to be in great shape when it comes

35:34

to AI? And are there one

35:36

or two where you're like, my sense is these are

35:38

going to be in some trouble. I would say, whether

35:41

we call it engineering, computer science,

35:43

a lot of people are skeptical

35:45

because these AIs can code better

35:47

than they can do almost everything

35:49

else. But if you're good at

35:52

it, I remember, I graduated with a CS

35:54

degree and a master's back in the late 90s.

35:57

And I remember everyone telling me that, hey, your

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job, You

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know, I, I, I click my heels every day

42:02

to work and I, I feel blessed every moment.

42:04

And I think that's very, very few

42:06

people on the, on the planet get to feel that way. I

42:10

admire that tremendously. That's

42:12

an easy thing to say everybody, like in hindsight,

42:15

but when you have the capacity

42:17

that Sal has to

42:19

have made that decision is a really noble decision.

42:22

And to live it out every single day of

42:24

your life, as you see peers of years with

42:26

way less scale, they haven't reached 165 million

42:29

people with transformation, build

42:31

massive wealth. And I've always wanted to ask

42:33

you that because I've admired it so

42:35

much from a distance. So just want to acknowledge you

42:37

for that brother, the work you do in the world

42:40

clearly matters. And I think

42:43

when you're doing it, like you said, maybe you don't feel the

42:46

impact of it because you're in the day to day grind, but

42:48

just know as a, as a fan

42:50

of yours, looking back at you, I have so much

42:52

admiration for the way that you've decided to serve and

42:54

live your life. So I want to acknowledge that. Appreciate

42:57

that. But yeah, I'm having a good time. Good.

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Let me ask you this. Uh, I'm going to poke a little

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deeper. What are your fears about

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the next five or 10 years, uh,

43:57

of AI? Like if someone said, I've seen you talk

43:59

a little bit about.