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Can Joe Biden survive his poor debate performance?

Can Joe Biden survive his poor debate performance?

Released Monday, 1st July 2024
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most ardent supporters and donors, his

2:02

performance was excruciating. Betty Cotton of

2:04

New York, who has donated thousands

2:06

to Biden's reelection campaign and serves

2:08

as a regional finance committee member,

2:10

said it was hard to watch.

2:13

One former Obama administration official who

2:15

served on Obama's reelection committee and

2:18

has raised funds for Biden said

2:20

they woke up to multiple tax

2:22

chains of current donors and former

2:25

administration officials, both of Obama, Biden

2:27

and Biden-Harris, all freaking out. Biden

2:30

has insisted that he will continue his

2:32

campaign, but there are complications if he

2:35

doesn't. This year Biden had

2:37

no serious primary challenger. That means

2:39

almost all of the more than 4,600 delegates

2:41

expected at the Democratic convention in

2:43

Chicago in August are pledged to

2:45

him, though that commitment is not

2:47

binding. It also means there is

2:49

no ready alternative, raising the possibility

2:51

of a brutal floor fight. Vice

2:54

President Kamala Harris would be a leading

2:56

alternative, but her position as Biden's running

2:58

mate gives her no special standing to

3:00

claim the nomination. There are

3:02

also rising Democrats who might have run for the

3:04

nomination this time if Biden had not. They

3:07

include governors Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan,

3:09

Gavin Newsom of California, Josh Shapiro

3:11

of Pennsylvania, and J.D. Pritzker of

3:14

Illinois. Worried Biden donors have

3:16

floated some of those names in recent days

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as well. For more this

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week and beyond, stay with USA today.com

3:23

and the excerpt. Black

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voters could be the deciding factor in

3:30

this presidential election, but both sides have

3:33

made significant gaps in their appeals. What

3:36

does each candidate need to do to win them over? My

3:38

colleague Sarah Gannum sat down with USA

3:41

Today chief political correspondent Philip M. Bailey

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to discuss. Philip, thanks so

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much for being back on the show. Hey,

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Sarah, how are you? OK, so let's jump

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right in. For a while, we've been hearing

3:52

that Trump is doing better with black voters.

3:55

What do the numbers show? Well, this

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is the important nuance to remember here.

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I'm happy to be here and I have really bad

10:02

news for you. I gotta say

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I did this story and

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by the time I'd finished talking to all

10:09

the experts I was like dear heavens I

10:11

am never going in the ocean again! I

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mean when I think of summer I think

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of a lot of things I don't think

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jellyfish is the first to come to mind

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but you're saying that might be all we're

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talking about this summer? Tell me

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more. So here's the deal the genesis of

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the story is that about 25

10:30

years ago there was this kind of fear

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amongst scientists that

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because of climate change and pollution and

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ocean warming basically all the fish would

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die and they'd be just be full

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of jellyfish it would just be jellyfish

10:45

goo so we're like

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do they think that's in fact what's happening?

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So the good news is it's not the

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bad news is is that a lot

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of the really nasty jellyfish they're

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moving into our territory so

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we're used to seeing moon jellies which

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are kind of little they're pretty and

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they sting a lot tiny bit but

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they're no big deal but like box

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jellyfish which are nasty nasty and are

11:10

painful stings are starting to show up

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I mean they're in Florida and they've

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been seen as far north as New

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Jersey. Ooh

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what's causing this? So

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it's it's a bunch of things it's

11:25

the oceans are warmer so jellyfish that

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existed in certain places are able to

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exist in new places in

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some areas it's because of overfishing

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because basically once the fish

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are gone the jellyfish don't

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have competition and so they can kind

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of take over an area where there

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used to be fish because fish eat

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jellyfish and then another

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thing is it's every oddly enough

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agricultural runoff so if you put

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too much fertilizer in your fields

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which farmers do a lot it

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sloths off and ends up in waterways ends

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up in the ocean you

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get blooms of algae, which leads

12:03

to hypoxia, which is lower oxygen levels in

12:05

the water. And it turns out that, and

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you're not supposed to say this, but like

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sometimes marine biologists will say, yeah, jellyfish, they're

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the cockroaches of the sea. They will survive

12:15

anything. They don't need a lot of food.

12:17

They don't need a lot of oxygen. Like

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everything else can die off and

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the jellyfish persist. So all of

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those reasons, and as

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more people move to the

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coasts, we're building piers, we're

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building oil derricks, we're building

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wind turbines, we're building all

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this infrastructure out into the

12:37

water. And it turns out jellyfish have two

12:40

life portions, the medusa, which is the

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part we're used to, the tendrils that

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come at you and then get you.

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And then the polyps, which

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are basically the baby jellyfish and they

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need something to stick to. And

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so like you build a whole bunch more reefs

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and wharfs and stuff, and there's more places for

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the jellyfish to breed. I

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mean, I'm a coastal person. I grew up

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in Florida. I most certainly have memories of

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what jellyfish sting feels like.

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It feels like a sting, right? But

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beyond that, are there

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significant risks? So

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they all sting, but at different

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levels. And most of them, yeah,

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it's just annoying, but it was, by in a

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day it was gone. We are

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starting to see some jellyfish,

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like the box jellies that

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actually can be serious.

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I mean, people have died. It's

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pretty uncommon and you have to have a

13:33

really strong reaction, but they're

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like nastier. One of the scientists I

13:38

spoke to said that, yeah, when she

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was doing work in Australia with jellyfish and she

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said, you had to wear basically

13:45

a rash guard when there were really

13:47

big blooms. She said it was not

13:49

a good look, but it's-

13:51

So is this gonna be like the

13:54

seaweed? Is it gonna muck up the beach

13:56

experience? Is it gonna feel like the plague

13:58

or a jellyfish apocalypse? Well,

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it's not the jellyfish apocalypse we were

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worried about 20 years ago. One good

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thing is they're seeing that some

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of the predatory fish are

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starting to realize, oh, here's this new

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food source. A balance is achieved, but

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it might take a little bit. What

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should those of us who frequent the

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beach in the summer do to better

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protect ourselves? If you see

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jellyfish, swim away from them. If

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you see them on the beach, do not pick them

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up. Do not scrape them off

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or use sand. Wash them

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off with seawater. Straight vinegar

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can deactivate the venom. And

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then if you do get stung, getting in

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hot water like a hot tub can deactivate

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it, but it takes 30, 35 minutes. So

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I mean, mostly it's like a bad mosquito

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bite. It's just going to take a while

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until it feels better. Elizabeth Wiese is a

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national correspondent for USA Today. Elizabeth, thank you

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so much. As always, a

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pleasure. Thanks for listening

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to The Exert. You can get the podcast wherever

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smart speaker, just ask for The Exert. Thanks

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to Sarah Gannon for filling in for me

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these past few shows. I'm Taylor Wilson, and

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