0:00

Yes we did, cause we back at it again It's

0:02

the fight on the kid This is

0:04

really the fight on the kid

0:08

Well we just, I was just given Ryan Williams here Our

0:10

history in linguistics It took all the energy out of

0:12

the room It took the energy out of my body I

0:14

was like, I'm bored with this story I'm giving him a

0:16

history lesson And I just don't feel like going in

0:18

there I looked over and he was like this Yeah,

0:22

because he jumps motorcycles And

0:25

does backflips Close

0:28

This is the thing about you Not

0:30

motorcycle Bikes, bikes, bikes Bikes,

0:33

but the thing is like You do

0:35

this crazy shit with bikes

0:38

And like everything else must be a bore And

0:40

by the way, it's funny how I Pictured

0:43

when I saw your stunt at first When you did this

0:45

crazy thing I was like, that's a motorcycle

0:47

Oh yeah, yeah It's a bike You thought those motorcycles

0:50

had It may as well be Well no, that's why

0:52

you drive a electric car Because look at how high

0:54

he is Like it's crazy dude Yeah, you're not motorcycle

0:56

though, right? I know But in

0:58

my mind, it was a motorcycle All

1:01

right Maybe later, maybe I'll get on the motorcycle After

1:03

I can't push a pedal You never had a thing

1:05

for bike No, being around Travis Strana I went to

1:07

his house And I did a backflip on a motorcycle

1:09

But that's just like a given When you go to

1:12

his house But I stick to the BMX These guys

1:14

on Moto Like I can crash 30 times

1:16

in one day They can't like they crash once

1:19

They're like, I'm out for six months My legs are

1:21

broke I broke my neck See you next week Because

1:24

they're higher What is it? Yeah, it's to do

1:26

with that And then the motorcycle is so heavy

1:28

That if it lands on you Or it just

1:30

you almost hold more velocity

1:32

Like it'll fling you into the ground So like

1:35

if you land on a motorcycle And it tips

1:37

And it throws you with its weight to the

1:39

ground It's kind of like if a bigger person

1:41

slammed you It's going to hurt more Is there

1:43

because of that risk Is there more money in

1:45

motocross Opposed to just regular bikes? I'd

1:47

say it's hard to say It's the

1:50

thing with motorbikes I mean Supercross, yeah

1:52

Supercross is huge Lots of money in

1:54

that But

1:56

obviously in freestyle There's

1:58

not a lot of Right Like there

2:00

is a fair bit of riders, but not a lot.

2:02

Cause it's so expensive to get into. Like most guys

2:04

are going to do super cross before they start like

2:07

doing tricks, which is more dangerous. Like the big air

2:09

and all that stuff. It's expensive, right? Yeah. So I'm

2:11

sure there's big money in both, but at the top

2:13

of BMX is also good money. So it depends. And

2:15

Travis is a freak, huh? I heard they

2:18

say like him, he was jumping out of playing. They're

2:20

doing his heart rate and just doesn't, it just doesn't

2:22

raise up. Yeah.

2:24

I'd like to see my heart rate when I'm

2:26

riding, obviously certain things like when I do X

2:29

games this weekend, my heart rate

2:31

will probably be raised, but probably not as much as maybe

2:33

you just think. And I don't know. It depends if I'm

2:35

doing something new and I'm like,

2:38

it's in the realm of just like, I've only

2:40

done it in my mind and now I'm going

2:42

to try to bring it to real life. That's

2:44

when my heart rate will go up. But I

2:46

think X games, it's like a competition sort of

2:48

suit, you know, like that blood's flowing. It's competition.

2:50

What is it? What is it? Everyday life like

2:52

for you. In other words, are you a junkie?

2:55

Are you so the juice? No, in

2:57

other words, straight to the point. I'm a junkie.

2:59

If I'm not performing, like if I can't do

3:01

stand up for a long time, I get a

3:03

little bit weird. Yeah. And I, like

3:06

somebody said, the guy used to run the comedy

3:08

store, Tommy said, you're one of those guys, if you don't perform,

3:10

you die. You know, like that's, that's

3:12

dramatic. But in a way I do, like, do

3:14

you, do you, I

3:17

always wonder though, you're so extreme with the shit you do.

3:19

Is everything boring except for that? How does it

3:21

work? Yeah. Kind of. Cause I feel

3:24

like every day on what you said, I

3:26

always have to ride. Like if I don't ride for a

3:28

week, I start to kind of feel a bit depressed almost.

3:30

Cause I kind of get that, that adrenaline

3:32

rush. Yeah, exactly. So, and then in saying

3:34

what you said, like I go to a,

3:36

like on a roller coaster and I'm like,

3:38

Oh yeah, it's pretty crazy. Like I get

3:40

still, I'm like, whoa. But I'm like, I'm

3:42

also strapped in and probably not going to

3:44

die. Yeah. So I feel like

3:46

whenever I'm on my bike, it's kind of like I'm

3:48

on a roller coaster that I'm in control of, but

3:50

I'm not strapped in. Right. So it's

3:53

good. And I feel comfortable doing it cause I've been doing

3:55

it for 20 years, but

3:58

yeah, I don't know. Every day I go out. and I

4:00

just, I'm doing tricks that should get

4:02

my, should get me like really scared. And I

4:05

do try to do things that scare me. Obviously

4:07

new tricks that I've never done before. Watch this

4:09

insanity. You're so insane. You're so insane. That's wild.

4:12

Who learns how to do that?

4:15

It's so crazy. So you said you've been doing

4:17

20 years. Yeah. How

4:19

old are you? I'm 30. So you

4:21

started when you're 10, right? Yeah. When you

4:23

got on there, were you like, this is it,

4:25

man? Yeah. You know what? I actually started, cause

4:27

I watched X games. So it was like this

4:29

X games movie called ultimate X. And I was

4:31

like, whoa, this is crazy. It was like Travis

4:33

Pastrana and all the guys at X games, like

4:35

just doing crazy stuff, action sports. So then I

4:38

was like, what do I have in my garage? And all

4:40

I had was roll blades. And so then I was like,

4:43

I think I started rolling when I was eight. So then

4:45

I just grabbed these roll blades, like not good roll blades,

4:47

roll blades that you just go to the roll gym and

4:49

you're like, Yeah. And you fall

4:51

on your ass a hundred times. Like the four-hundred roll blades. Yeah.

4:53

Yeah. So then I was just down the skate park. This

4:56

just like little kid down the skate park.

4:58

I was only one roll by because like

5:00

not many people roll by to wear around

5:02

where I lived. Yeah. And then, yeah, yeah.

5:05

Fill in four. Yeah.

5:09

No, I'm saying in America, that was like a thing.

5:11

And then you get bullied right quick. You can get,

5:13

but then I had rollerblades. KCR

5:15

producer, like obviously not at

5:17

your level, like high level rollerblader. I was at high

5:20

level at eight. But yeah, but like,

5:22

there was a thing where like, like

5:24

especially on the beach, like if you're on

5:26

rollerblades, we're like, yeah. Yeah.

5:28

If you're wearing glitter and hot shorts, which is

5:30

what usually goes with, but, but it

5:33

was the only thing you had. So then you had

5:35

the roller blades and then you started. So for four

5:37

years I was rollblading, but I was the only kid

5:39

at the skate park on rollblades. And then like the

5:41

BMXs and then the scooters, scooters kind of come came

5:43

into the picture and they were all doing like flips

5:45

and like spins. And I was like, Oh, this is

5:47

how you're, I'm just going to do that on my

5:49

roll blades, like flips and spins. And then I went

5:51

to my first roll blade contest and everyone was like

5:53

grinding like 30 feet on, on

5:56

these rails, just like, I'm like, I'm

5:58

like, I don't know how to grind. I don't even know

6:00

how to flip. I'm trying to flip. I'm

6:02

trying to flip. What is a grind? I'm an idiot.

6:04

Grind is like where you jump on a rail, like

6:06

a handrail in the street, and you like slide down

6:08

it. Like a skate. That's where you hit your balls.

6:10

You see if you stop off. Yeah.

6:13

Not at his level. So then I was like,

6:15

whoa, I'm like rollblading way different to everyone else.

6:17

But then all my mates rode scooters. So then

6:19

I was like, I'm going to try and ride

6:21

a scooter sometimes, but I didn't have my own.

6:23

And when I went to the skate park, I

6:25

didn't bring shoes because I was on my roll

6:27

blade. So I'd borrow my mates shoes and scooter

6:30

to just ride with them. And then eventually

6:32

I was like, you know what? I'm going

6:34

to get my own scooter and bring my

6:37

own shoes. And then what, what point did

6:39

you start entering like competitions? What age? Cause

6:43

my, my, the reason I'm curious, like there's no

6:45

route to this. It's cause it's similar to like

6:47

UFC where when you start, people are like, all

6:49

right, man, good luck. Like sub, like, like if,

6:51

yeah, it's a sub culture, like kind of niche.

6:53

So it's like, if you're playing football

6:55

or baseball, it's like, all right, you play little

6:57

league, then you get good. You go to high

6:59

school, then you get recruited, then you go to

7:01

college or you get drafted. Then you go to

7:03

the pros with what you're doing with fighting. It's

7:05

like, all right, man, like good luck. You know?

7:07

And I mean, that's, that's a,

7:10

it was always just having fun to be

7:12

honest. Like it was never like, oh,

7:14

where am I going to take this? Like, especially in scootering.

7:16

Cause that scootering is what got me into like the line

7:18

line. It's what got me into nitro circus originally. That's how

7:20

we found you. Can you imagine? I'm sorry, but can you

7:22

imagine if your kid was like, I'm scootering.

7:24

You'd be like, Hey, listen, not just stay in

7:27

it. I know that you're not going to fuck

7:29

going in. What

7:32

do you mean scootering? Get the fucking side and get,

7:34

you know, guess what? I know,

7:36

but now like, if your kid says, Oh dad,

7:38

I'm into this, it's hard to like hate on

7:40

him. Yeah. Because back in the day, like

7:42

when I play video games, my dad's like, you're gonna be a loser.

7:45

Get outside, go play football, go play basketball. He'd be right

7:47

99 times out of a home. Now if I tell my

7:50

kid, Hey man, get out there. You're gonna be a loser.

7:52

He's like, Hey bitch, do you

7:54

know ninjas or whatever? He makes 30 million

7:56

a year. You dumb ass guy. Keep playing. Yeah. But,

7:59

but it is still very. rare to get to where you've gotten.

8:01

Yeah. It just is. Well,

8:03

I mean, I'm proud that like, you can change

8:06

someone's mind. Like I'm proud to be a person

8:08

that has kind of shown a path that you

8:10

can get into the line line. You

8:12

can make a living from it. Like that's what I

8:14

do for a living. That's what bought me my houses

8:16

is riding a scooter. And when I first started riding

8:18

scooter, it was like just having fun. And there was

8:20

no like path, oh yeah. Like this is what you

8:23

have to do. And then you can make it. It's

8:25

just, yeah, especially when I started. And

8:28

it's awesome that people see that, a lot goes

8:30

into it still, like even though the path there

8:32

and you can see what path I took, you

8:35

have to capitalize on opportunities that present

8:37

themselves. And that's kind of where I

8:39

got my success from was just, I

8:42

got the opportunity to do Nitro Circus. Then the

8:44

first show I landed like a double front flip

8:46

on scooter, which had never been done before. It

8:48

was my first show. Double front flip. That goes

8:51

viral. Yeah. And then Nitro Circus is like, well,

8:53

this kid's epic. Like you're on. And then I

8:55

kept doing the shows. And then the shows are

8:57

even like this guy, we

9:00

get the scooter kids at the skate park. We want to

9:02

out at our skate park. Let's send him down. Hopefully he

9:04

crashes. And I was like, I don't care

9:06

what you say. I'm on Nitro Circus. Let's go. And

9:08

I just always had a positive attitude and just did

9:10

my best. And then eventually it turned into, here's

9:13

Ryan Williams, one of the stars

9:15

of Nitro Circus, scooter rider and BMX rider. So

9:17

like turn. Wait, so you went BMX and scooter

9:19

at the same time? Yeah, yeah. So I, well,

9:22

I started really on scooter, but I rode BMX

9:24

as well. I was kind of the kid that

9:26

would just do anything that was fun. So

9:28

I didn't, I didn't never restricted myself. And that's

9:30

going to be my superpower. And I feel like

9:33

in BMX is that I

9:35

haven't restricted myself to like, oh, these are

9:38

BMX tricks. These are scooter tricks. I was

9:40

always just like, what tricks would work on

9:42

a BMX bike? Does it have wheels? Let's

9:44

go. Yeah. It's an athletic fucking thing too.

9:46

You're always on a bike. You're always on a scooter like this, doing

9:49

backflips, doing front flips. But you, I

9:51

always think that your mindset is you

9:53

seem to be a very competitive person. Cause you're also the

9:56

first person to do that. Throw the

9:58

bike forward and backflip. Nobody. That's

10:00

like nuts. It's like Tony Hawk's. Yeah.

10:02

Like how the fuck did you, did you were

10:04

like, I'm going to wonder if this is possible.

10:06

Is that how I, but then when he does

10:08

it, then the, the young kids go, that's possible.

10:10

It's like the guy that broke whatever the first

10:12

four minute mile, then 30 people, yeah, or Tony

10:14

Hawk, like Tony Hawk was saying he went home

10:16

and his, cause kids are into all his stuff

10:18

now, like skateboard and all that and bike ride

10:20

and all that. And so he went home there

10:22

watching this trick and he walked in

10:24

and was like, Oh, I was the first

10:26

person to do that. Like, shut up. And

10:28

then he was like, no, seriously, I was the first person to

10:30

do that. And then he said he looked and the guy was

10:33

doing it and then adding onto it. And he's like, holy, that's

10:35

where it's at now. Cause people

10:37

like that's possible. And then you should take

10:39

it to another level. That's been my favorite

10:41

thing, probably in action sports is just kind

10:43

of creating a trick that no one

10:45

would think of. And that's what I kind of try to do

10:47

in scootering. And then I tried to do it in BMX. So

10:50

for an example, like I do this trick on scooter.

10:52

It's called a nothing front scooter flip. It's like where

10:54

I throw the scooter. It does a front flip while

10:56

I just stand there and like watch it flip around.

10:58

And then I grabbed back on. As

11:01

soon as I did it, I did it. I knew straight

11:03

away, I can do this on BMX. Cause I was riding

11:06

BMX at the same time. I'm like, I can do this

11:08

on scooter, but I can do this on BMX and no

11:10

one's ever done this before. I bet you I can do

11:12

it. And then sure enough, the first time I got to

11:14

ride the big ramp again, uh, nitro circus, I did it.

11:17

And now how many times like, so you think of

11:19

that idea. You have a setup, I assume in your

11:21

backyard and you start practicing it. Yeah. But then when

11:23

I, when I did create that trick a lot, I

11:25

mean, I've only had my compound for four years. So

11:28

for the past past four years, it's been like on

11:30

overdrive. Like I think of a trick, go to sleep,

11:32

thinking of a trick, wake up in the morning, I

11:34

can try it. But before that, it was like, I

11:36

would just write down these tricks on my phone. In

11:38

my notes, this is what I got to try when

11:40

I get to nitro circus. This is what I get

11:42

to try when I get to Travis Stratus house, because

11:45

I that's, that was the only facility I had to do

11:47

it. Damn. So anyway, I do this nothing front bike flip.

11:49

And this was like 10 years ago. And

11:51

now three or four

11:54

years ago, when they had the Olympics, the

11:56

guy that won the gold medal, Logan Martin,

11:58

he's an Australian, he did that trick. in

12:00

his run and won a gold medal. And

12:02

then, but yeah. And now like there's 50

12:05

people that can do it on BMX. And it's just like,

12:08

it's just crazy that 10 years ago, no

12:10

one had even like thought to like, they were like,

12:12

they just didn't try it. Cause I did it. It

12:14

wasn't like, you think you're sitting around thinking about things

12:17

too. Always. And that's what I always do. Cause you

12:19

see it. It's the proof is in the pudding. I

12:21

did the first five 40 flare on scooter. And then

12:23

now that a thousand kids can do it. 12 year

12:25

olds can do it. And it's just weird that if

12:28

I just had my, if I just had

12:31

my mind 10 years ago, like this, there's

12:33

no difference. I feel like in my body,

12:35

I feel like when I was, well, let's

12:37

say 10 years ago, yeah. When I was

12:39

20, there's no really difference to my physical

12:41

ability. If I just had my mind 10

12:43

years ago, and I knew these tricks were possible, I could

12:45

have just like, imagine what you could have

12:47

done. If you file. Yeah. And then that's why

12:49

I think like now I can just push

12:52

action sports as a whole. Cause whatever I

12:54

do now, the younger generations like this is

12:56

possible. So that's what's a bummer with fighting

12:58

too. Cause it's like, there's guys that get

13:01

a certain age, they have so much experience

13:03

and they they're black belt, everything, they have

13:05

all the experience, but they're older. And

13:08

so it goes away where you could just figure out

13:10

a way to download that data and

13:12

put it into a 24 year old. We're going to

13:14

dominate the world. You have the best fighters of all

13:16

time. Let's take a little break. You

13:18

want to stop these freaks. I'm a coffee for,

13:20

for, for, for, for freak dude. Me too. And

13:22

then trade coffee, sent a big old, remember you're

13:25

like, where are you going with that? Oh,

13:27

that big bag. You son of a bitch. You

13:29

took it home. I thought about that. I was

13:32

like, where's he going with that big old colorful

13:34

bag of coffee? Yeah. Where'd you get that? Delicious.

13:36

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13:41

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13:58

dark roast hints of Coke. on

16:01

this. So you can see it's like air, and

16:03

then it's got like truck lining over it. So

16:05

it's like, yeah, it's like this plastic resi, it

16:07

does hurt. And you can break your face, you

16:09

can smash your teeth, how you can do whatever

16:11

still, you can really hurt yourself. Sometimes it's worse

16:13

because people come to my house and

16:15

they think, whoa, like it must be able to do this easy.

16:18

And then they'll just, it'll be

16:20

not good. So I'll tell you a story

16:22

for two years, for two

16:24

years I had this facility and I like learn

16:26

all these tricks. I'm like smashing out all these

16:28

things. And then we're like, Nitro Circus came to

16:30

me, they're like, can we do a qualifying event

16:32

for this massive Nitro World Games competition,

16:34

which was huge. And I was

16:36

like, yeah, sure, like bring everyone out. I haven't

16:39

had an ambulance. I've never had an ambulance called

16:41

to my land. For two years I've had it

16:43

and it's, you know, we go crazy still, but

16:45

they get there and it's two days. And

16:48

over two days, there's four ambulances that

16:50

have to come to my land. It's just

16:52

because like you see it and you

16:54

feel like rushed, whereas if you calculated,

16:56

that's when you can kind of get

16:58

through. But before you had those airbags,

17:00

how did you practice? In

17:03

my mind, in my mind. And

17:05

then it's like, Big cajones, big balls.

17:08

It's like a- Take your pants off, big dick. Sorry.

17:12

She hit nose. My

17:15

fiance knows. Anyway, you can close your

17:17

eyes. Jump.

17:22

Big dick. It's actually a running joke

17:24

on Nitro too, because we kind of don't know.

17:27

It's like the gym showers, everybody kind of knows. Chris

17:30

Haffey, shout out to Chris Haffey and me. We have

17:32

never gone tip to tip, but- You guys are doing

17:34

well. You got to strap it to your leg. I

17:36

understand otherwise the airbag. Count away. I think that's what

17:39

stops the- The flip. That's how it stops the

17:41

flip. Count away. But anyway, what I

17:43

was going to say is you can kind of like

17:45

close your eyes and you can like write your name

17:47

on a piece of paper, right? And you look, oh,

17:49

it's pretty much correct, you know? And

17:52

so what I can do is I can close my

17:54

eyes. I can ride my bike in my head. Cause

17:56

I have a 20 year simulator that has just been

17:58

updated like over and over over the- Every

18:01

time I ride, the AI simulator is

18:03

just updated. So it gets better and

18:05

better. And it's been tested and it's

18:07

failed. And it's

18:09

confirmed how I thought. So I'll run a trick

18:11

through my mind. Say if I think of a

18:14

new trick, I'll run it through my mind and

18:16

I can almost do it 90%

18:18

of it in my head. And I can say, okay, at this point,

18:22

20% through the trick, I'm gonna probably see this. This is what I'm

18:24

gonna see. And then 80% through the

18:26

trick, I'm gonna see this. And then when I do

18:28

the trick in real life, if I don't see what

18:30

I thought I was gonna see, that's when I'm like,

18:33

okay, eject mode, save myself. And then like, I'm a

18:35

professional crasher at the same time as being a freshman.

18:37

You have to be. What is the, what is it?

18:39

Cause I did a movie where

18:42

I said, I'll do my own stunt. It was this movie,

18:44

Ride Along with Kevin Hart. And I don't know if you

18:46

ever heard of him. He's an actor. So

18:48

anyway, I'm playing a bad guy. You were the lead in

18:50

that? I

18:53

played the bad guy. You gotta be cool, dude. And I saw

18:55

the movie. Yeah, I played one of the bad guys. You were

18:57

on the poster? I

19:00

played one of the bad guys, dude. It

19:02

was me and John with Johnny Legs, man.

19:04

Be cool. Don't piss in my parade.

19:06

I'm not, I'm sorry. Fuck, anyway. So I

19:08

had to get shot. In the

19:10

beginning, they think I die, but I'd end up being, you know,

19:12

I'm okay. Cause I was wearing a, but in the beginning, I

19:14

get shot and I go flying back. And

19:17

I go, I got this. I'll do this.

19:19

And the stuntman like this, he goes, he's like,

19:21

you do? Another actor, another loser with

19:24

a big ego. I go, yeah, yeah, I got

19:26

it. And he's looking at me like he can

19:28

tell. This guy's an actor, not an athlete. He's

19:30

like, what are you doing? Yeah, so Joker

19:32

boy goes, I get shot. What do I do?

19:35

I go back and I brace myself with

19:37

my hands. I almost broke my wrist. And

19:39

I was like, ah. But I'm

19:41

not, you know, I'm like, ah, fuck, I got it.

19:44

And he goes, hey, come here for a second. He

19:46

goes, if you want to do this, you got to

19:48

learn how to fall the right way. You got to

19:50

fall this way. And I didn't do it very well

19:52

then either. So they got it. That's cause you're not

19:54

doing it. So I fucked up. Yeah, and I, they

19:57

had to stop and get the stuntman wasting time. So

20:00

you learned how to do all that shit. Well, actually

20:02

you've been crashing since he was 10. Yeah. Yeah.

20:06

What is the main thing? Keep your arms. What

20:08

do you do? No, I'm it. I don't

20:10

think there's like a really, you're not like, oh, bowl up. You

20:12

know, like ejecto and like, you know, like an,

20:14

you know, like, you know, like an armadillo, like, I'm

20:17

in danger. Use your back. I

20:19

just, I just mean like, okay, I'm upside

20:21

down. I got to talk more to get

20:23

to my butt, you know, my feet, you

20:25

know, like, it's not like, oh, I'm spinning.

20:27

Okay. As I'm going through the air,

20:29

I'm like, okay, this is too slow. I need to tuck

20:31

in. Oh, this is too fast. I need to cut, tuck

20:33

out. Cause you're in tune with it. And he has 10,000

20:36

hours. So you know exactly

20:38

when it's off, and to recalibrate

20:40

and no, I just, I just said

20:42

this on my, when I've been to my birthday post

20:44

cause I turned 30, I said, I've never had a

20:46

surgery in my life. What? Knock on

20:48

wood brother. What? I know. I'm

20:51

like, well, oh, Oh, what the fuck?

20:54

You're black before. You want, you want

20:56

nicotine? But no surgery. I've

20:58

like, I smashed my teeth out, but then I

21:00

got new one. So it wasn't too bad. And

21:03

then like, I separate my shoulder. And then I've

21:05

just had like fractures, but never, no surgeries. Wow.

21:08

So when you were, I'm just curious how it

21:10

works. So when you're 10 and then your parents

21:12

are like, you're always on these fucking scooters and

21:14

roller blades. And then there was a competent, like

21:17

how do you even find a competition? You know

21:19

what I'm saying? Like, where's the scooter competition? First

21:21

of all, hold on broken home. Broken

21:24

home? Yeah. Oh yeah.

21:26

Yeah. Yep. Is

21:28

that a broken home? That's what it takes. Well,

21:30

divorce. Sure. You got to have some

21:32

family trauma. Not ever. You didn't have a dad? No,

21:34

I haven't. Okay. I have a dad,

21:36

but they never mean to get like, It's my joke,

21:38

but I'm serious. Like comics fighters. Yeah.

21:41

You know, a lot of, a lot of special forces

21:43

guys. My, I would imagine

21:46

PMX guys would stunt men. I know you got

21:48

to have a little fucked up stuff that goes

21:50

on when you're growing up. Maybe, or you're just

21:52

a savage. Yeah. Or you're just addicted

21:54

to the juice. I've actually thought about it. I feel

21:56

like maybe when you don't

21:58

have your life. How about Brian's all molested?

22:00

Yeah, right. He's all right. He's

22:02

all, what? He's like, junkie? Broken

22:05

home? Mef, arrested? He's all not

22:07

at all. Yeah, appropriate questions. Just

22:09

met him. Making white drama. Yeah,

22:11

right? But listen, this is what

22:13

we do. No, I don't want you

22:15

to get into it if it's like a thing, I'm just saying. But

22:19

you're growing up, you're your family, they're

22:21

supportive of it? Yeah, so my mom,

22:23

she was like a, she raced

22:26

BMX and she was like, I can best in a

22:28

state at racing BMX. Your mom,

22:30

what a badass. I raced BMX as well before like

22:32

the skate park, but then there was a skate park

22:34

next door to the race course. So then I'd like

22:37

kind of ride my bike over on the race, the

22:39

skate park, but she'd be like, get your race bike

22:41

off the fucking skate park. Yeah. Cause

22:43

it's not built for her. Your mom was a badass BMX. She's

22:45

still a badass. My mom beat me up. She

22:48

does boxing, she always beats me up in the kitchen. I'm like,

22:50

man, chill. But then I kick her in the leg. She

22:53

only boxes. So mom is a badass. Yeah,

22:55

yeah. The one's a badass. So then, so then it

22:58

wasn't like she was that she could, especially if she

23:00

was at that level, she can see it like, all

23:02

right, get her skills. And, but we've got to remember

23:04

I'm like 12 years old. So it's not like, where

23:06

is he going to go with this? Like, I was

23:09

just like, I'm having so much fun.

23:11

And I think maybe by the time I was 15 or 16,

23:15

I was like sponsored and getting free trips

23:17

to America. How did that happen? Like, how,

23:19

like question, how did they see you on

23:21

the scooters get sponsored at 16, 15, 16?

23:24

Yeah, it's that's like through you. Like I made a YouTube

23:26

video, you get like a sponsor me, you know, like a

23:28

sponsor me tape. Like it's the same as kind of skateboarding.

23:30

I didn't even have internet either when I was growing up.

23:33

So I had to go to like my mates house and

23:35

I'd had all this footage. I'm like, yes, let's make this

23:38

look. We'd just slam it all together and then

23:40

add a random song from iTunes and just like

23:42

put it on YouTube. And then I guess like

23:44

people saw that and I got, I

23:47

got like some scooter parts for free. And

23:49

then by the time NitroSurg came around,

23:51

I was 17 and I'd already been sponsored on

23:53

scooter and got paid to like,

23:55

not, not lots of money, but like decent for

23:58

like a teenager. And I've done trips and I

24:00

just had. really good videos on YouTube. And Nitro

24:02

Circus is like, hey, we already had the scooter

24:04

rider on tour, but we want

24:06

more. Cause like people are starting to enjoy these scooter tricks

24:09

and they were like, oh yeah, they're in Australia.

24:11

And they're like, who are the three best scooter

24:13

riders in Australia that could do something on this

24:15

ramp? And I was one of them.

24:18

Your parents probably picked up very quickly that you were

24:20

very focused and competitive though, right? Like when you have

24:22

a kid like that, it's like, this kid's going to

24:24

be fine. Cause I feel like you'd be

24:26

successful at pretty much anything you did. Just really persistent.

24:28

I'm almost like crazy in a good way. Like where

24:30

it's like, I try to trick 10 times. And if

24:32

I try, if I try to trick 10 times and

24:34

I don't land it, I'm trying to a hundred times,

24:36

500 times. Yeah, that's a kid is

24:38

going to be successful. Like, like if I had a kid, you have

24:40

a kid like that. You're like, this kid's going to find his way.

24:43

You're just born a savage. You're

24:45

just a savage. Yeah, but as a parent, you don't care

24:48

as long as they're focused on something. You're like, whatever it

24:50

is. I don't give a hell what it is. Whatever

24:52

it is. If they're into it, dude, run with it.

24:54

Hell yeah. Keep them out of trouble, discipline.

24:56

And I still, I love school and I still, I

24:58

did like finish school and got accepted into university, but

25:00

I just deferred, which is like, you just take the

25:03

year off or something. Cause you found your past. Yeah.

25:05

And I was doing that. Cause you're the best at

25:07

what you do. I

25:09

don't want to be a civil engineer. I want to be, I

25:11

want to try this nitro stuff. You go

25:13

to college to find out what you want to do. You already knew.

25:15

So it didn't make sense for kids like you, but then have you

25:18

ever had a regular job? No,

25:20

I did like the paper route for maybe a

25:22

week, but I didn't do it. My mom had

25:24

to do it. Just the fastest paper route ever.

25:26

Just the fastest. I love it, dude.

25:28

Oh yeah. And then I just, I was like, nah,

25:30

it's all good. And then when, when did you know that

25:32

you were going to be able to make a living

25:34

doing this? Cause early on, I'm sure it's not much.

25:36

And then eventually you're like, oh shit, I can actually, it

25:38

was like the night. I think the nitro circus was

25:40

kind of like where I was like, wow, I have enough

25:43

money. So like I bought my own house when I

25:45

was 21, my first house when I was 21. That's

25:47

pretty well. And I was just probably mainly nitro

25:50

circus still in like nearly 70 shows a year.

25:53

And you know, I got money from nitro circus

25:55

competition. Is that from sponsor? No, that's just from

25:57

a show from doing a nitro circus show. And

25:59

now Yeah, they pay me per show and I

26:02

do like 70 shows and it'd be

26:04

a decent amount. And then that's how like, I just bought

26:06

my own. Yeah, bought my own house and that. And then

26:08

yeah, and then I had like sponsors obviously, but I

26:11

feel like Nitro Circus was definitely like the number

26:13

one thing. Cause I was traveling the world doing

26:15

like, we're doing like 20 show tours and just

26:17

in a month doing 20 shows. And

26:19

are they still doing it at that rate?

26:22

Like, you know, who owns Nitro Circus is

26:24

Dana. Oh, he does? Yeah.

26:26

Oh, I didn't know. Like when you see cowboy and Nitro

26:28

Circus, like he owns the, you know, that. Yeah, no, we're

26:30

about to get back into it. We got like a big

26:32

America tour coming up. So that's always good. And we're going

26:34

like, we're just doing indoor shows. The indoor shows like Epic.

26:37

That's all he always used to do. But

26:39

Travis is on tours. So it's yeah.

26:41

So when do you have Travis races

26:44

the electric cars? Yeah. And

26:46

he's the goat of action sports. How long will you

26:48

like, do you, how long

26:50

is that what kind of longevity? Yeah, do you age out? Yeah,

26:53

I mean, I'm 30 years old. And so

26:55

I probably, I feel like I'm going to

26:58

be competitive. I don't know. I'm

27:00

going to be try to be as competitive as I can for

27:02

at least five or more years. But

27:05

I'm bursting like X games this weekend. I'm bursting

27:07

like 21 year old kids that are like, they're

27:09

like keen as, and you can see like some

27:11

of them are so good at

27:14

writing and they do the craziest tricks, but then

27:16

they come to the contest and sometimes like they

27:18

can stuff up, but they're going to get more

27:20

and more experience and they're going to be out

27:22

in these crazy tricks every try. And that's going

27:24

to be hard to compete with. But I just,

27:27

I do tricks that are really weird and

27:30

that's like what I try to aim for. Cause

27:32

it kind of has a wow factor. Cause you're

27:34

always thinking of new shit. Yeah, as a wow

27:36

factor. So that always keeps me like in the

27:38

loop. And then is it weird that those young

27:40

kids, like obviously you're their Tony Hawk. Like

27:43

you're their GSP and they're competing

27:45

against you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And

27:48

you are right. I mean, he's the guy. He's

27:50

the guy. Yeah, I've been still at

27:52

certain events, like the dirt event that I'm doing this year,

27:54

I've only done it, I only did it for the first

27:56

time last year and I got silver in it. And then

27:58

I won like best trick. I mean, usually I do the

28:01

mega ant, which is like the huge.

28:03

Yeah, it's like a 70 foot jump into a

28:05

28 foot quarter pipe. So there's just the quarter

28:07

pipes 28 foot and then you

28:09

air 20 foot out of it. But they don't do that

28:11

anymore cause it costs so much to set up. But that

28:14

used, when I did that event, it

28:16

would, I would go into that day, like

28:18

I could, I'm like ready to die. That's

28:20

what I felt like when, cause I, yeah,

28:22

I've like flipped this one time, I back

28:24

flipped into the roll in, which is

28:26

like 70 feet off the ground at least. And

28:29

then like did the rest of my run. And I

28:31

was like, that day I remember I'm like, I've never

28:33

done a back flip drop in, in my life on

28:35

BMX, but this is how I'm gonna do it. So

28:37

this is fascinating to me because most of these kids

28:40

are coming up watching guys like you and then they

28:42

copy it and they add to it. And

28:44

you could say the same thing about you, but you're

28:46

doing innovative things that you're thinking about. So it's a

28:48

very, very rare and different thing, right? And

28:51

so you're kind of an originator. You're an original

28:53

thinker, like an a lateral thinker. You just are

28:55

whether, you know, that's, I don't know if that's

28:57

inherent. Do you remember when you were

28:59

a kid, do you ever, do you remember doing

29:02

that in other aspects or was that

29:04

a surprise to you where

29:06

you were like, oh, I'm coming up with shit like

29:09

this? Cause it's wild. I'm sure it's instinctive and it's

29:11

just the way your brain works, but it's

29:13

so fucking unique. You know what I think it was at

29:15

the start, it was like, I

29:17

was just competitive with my friends. Like, oh,

29:19

who's gonna be able to do a 360 spot over

29:21

this spine? It was with my friend Holly. I remember

29:24

this like vividly and he did it. And then I

29:26

tried, I did it for the rest of

29:29

the afternoon cause he did it and then he did it

29:31

before me. And I was like, so mad. I was like,

29:33

I got to do it too. And I tried it like

29:35

a hundred times. I'm like, okay, this is what like I

29:37

was into. But then I remember I did maybe my first

29:39

world first, like a trick that no one had ever done

29:41

before. And it was like, it

29:44

blew up. Like it was like, whoa, everyone was like,

29:46

this is insane. Like I can't believe you did doing

29:48

a trick that no one else has done. Even like,

29:50

even though I was scootering, it wasn't like a lot

29:52

of people riding scooters, but it was a fair bit.

29:54

And I was able to do a trick that no

29:57

one else has done. It was like this new high

29:59

that I felt. And that's kind of what has

30:01

inspired me to just always like, okay, what

30:03

hasn't been done? What isn't just

30:05

another like trick, like another boss spin, but what's

30:07

like really crazy like- How can you separate yourself?

30:09

Yeah, like this bike flip. How can I jump

30:11

off the bike? It does a front flip while

30:14

I grab it. Like that's just stands out, you

30:16

know? The thing that he did

30:18

most recently that people were talking about where he

30:20

does that, he pushes the bike forward and does

30:22

the back flip. That's it, yeah, that's all. That

30:24

one took me over a thousand tries. What? Yeah,

30:27

over, it took me a month. What? It took

30:29

me over 24 hours. 24

30:31

hours of complete constant attempting it. Seriously? Yeah,

30:33

if you go to the middle one, the

30:35

middle top one, I- This, this,

30:37

I saw like, come on, dude. Come on,

30:40

dude. The problem is, so

30:42

there's so many movements and you're so blind. So at

30:44

the start, obviously I don't see the bike. So to

30:46

do the bike flip initially, you have to throw it

30:48

perfectly. If you throw it too far away, the bike's

30:50

gonna be too far away. If you throw it too

30:52

slow, it's not gonna spin around. You throw it too

30:54

fast. You're not gonna get back onto it. And now

30:56

I'm doing a back flip. So when I'm doing a

30:58

back flip, it's changing the trajectory of the bike at

31:01

the same time. So now I've

31:03

got to counteract for my back flip to throw it into

31:05

the bike. And then now I can't see. So

31:07

I only know if it's gonna work at the very end. Wow.

31:10

I don't know it's gonna work. I don't know if it's gonna work.

31:12

You can get your head on that fucking wheel. Yeah, and- And

31:14

you also don't have a ton of time. No. But

31:16

I'm jumping that, that's a 13 foot ramp. And

31:19

then that's a 13 foot takeoff. And then I'm jumping

31:21

about 30 feet. So

31:23

it's like- And you're obviously in amazing shape and

31:25

you're obviously in a very dramatic, but you

31:27

did that thing at the UFC you were talking about? Yeah, the

31:30

UFC PI. I went and did the like testing

31:32

that they do on the UFC fighters. And

31:35

yeah, Dana, cause I went and saw

31:37

Dana and I showed him my newest trick, like the

31:39

triple back flip 360 that we can't, we just watched before.

31:42

And he's like, come into my office. I'm like, all

31:44

right. And he's like, we're gonna fucking test

31:46

you. He's like, we might have the fucking super

31:48

athlete here. I'm like, I just got off the flight. Like

31:51

the plane, yes, the day before, this is UFC 300. I

31:53

just got off the plane. I'm jet lag. He's

31:55

like, we're gonna fucking test you. He's

31:58

like, get the UFC PI on the phone. And

32:00

he's like, all right, you're going to do like six hours

32:02

of testing. And I'm like, okay. We

32:05

might have a fucking super athlete. I'm like, I

32:07

fucking hope so. Because you're cheering me up. And

32:09

I'm like, I'm like, yep, let's do it. Even

32:11

though I'm like jet lagged and like come to

32:13

watch UFC 300. And what

32:15

they put you through. They did like, uh, I

32:18

don't know. They do, they do

32:20

the, uh, brain testing and then

32:22

they, like, they locked the V. Yeah. The

32:24

oxygen, the VO two max. And I fucking

32:26

spewed my guts up the one minute VO

32:28

two max. Just kind of

32:30

fucking, yeah, I know. But I'm

32:32

like, yeah, yeah. Because they say that you

32:35

got to put it all out on the

32:37

fucking, and if you tell me that I'm

32:39

fucking killing myself doing it, like I'm, that's

32:41

one thing in my mind. I was like,

32:43

I'm like, yep, pretend there's a, I'm like

32:45

pretend there's a bear behind me and I'm

32:47

about to die and I'm getting chased on

32:49

this cross-strainer bike. And I'm like, that's the

32:51

worst that aerodynamic. Yeah. And I'll set them

32:53

up with with the oxen. And then I've

32:55

got this one minute. But

32:59

like you're warming up, but one minute map,

33:01

they get you to do your max for

33:03

six seconds so they know you're max. And

33:05

then there's this, the Russian scientist guy's like,

33:07

go on Ryan. I'm like, what is going

33:09

on? I'm like, come on. And I'm 30,

33:12

I'm four, no 30. I thought

33:14

I'm halfway. He's like, you're half. No, you're

33:16

like, you're nearly done. And I'm like, yeah.

33:18

And I go extra hard. And he's like

33:20

20 seconds. Like, what the fuck? I'm

33:24

like, I'm like going as hard as I can. I'm like going

33:26

this far. Anyway, I do that.

33:28

And I actually did really well. I was like in the above

33:30

average on the VO two, but the one thing I was really

33:35

good at was when the VR was on my face,

33:37

like tracking my eyes, my eyes, super smooth,

33:40

like, so when I'm moving around,

33:42

my eyes just so you have to be free to track the bike,

33:44

you know where you're at. Yeah. But yeah,

33:47

but my, like, my other things, not so much like my,

33:49

like my pushup strength, like you do it on the pressure

33:52

plates. Like that's nothing too crazy. Well, you don't do it.

33:54

My mind, I think I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm

33:56

like, I'm like, I'm like, I feel like my strength is

33:58

definitely my mind and my persistence. I will

34:00

just not give up. If I do that, that trick took

34:02

me a thousand tries and I'm like, I

34:04

just wouldn't give up. And I always believe that

34:06

the next try is it. I don't

34:08

give a crap how bad my last try was. I

34:11

go, the fucking next one is it. And I've always

34:13

had that since I was in school at the skate,

34:15

it's just carried on. Like it's the same when I

34:17

was on my scooter at the skate park when I

34:19

was 14 years old. I'm like,

34:21

the next try is it. And then that was when I

34:23

was- You're born with that. You're born with that. You can't

34:25

teach it. There's nothing you can do. When you watch surfing-

34:27

I think that. What are you gonna say? I

34:30

think that I grew into it more because I feel

34:33

like at the skate park, there was a point where

34:35

I got sponsored and I kind of like got a

34:37

little bit boycotted from some of

34:39

my mates. I was like, one in particular

34:41

was like, oh, like if you hang out with

34:43

him, you're sucking up his ass. Cause I was

34:45

like the only one that got sponsored. So then

34:48

in for like one year, nearly one year, I

34:50

was just like riding in my own, like with

34:52

myself at the skate park, in my own mind

34:54

with my iPod. And so I like, I just

34:57

learned to, like

34:59

challenge myself in my mind. And now

35:01

I have this, I have

35:03

this crazy confidence in my mind that I can

35:05

like tap into where it's like, I

35:07

can just lock into that. And I can, I just

35:09

tell myself like, I have confidence in myself. And that's

35:11

what makes me go out there and do that. Cause

35:13

people always ask like, you must be so scared. I'm

35:15

like, yeah, I am scared. Like it's a natural thing

35:17

to be scared. It's good for you. But

35:20

I can lock into like the confidence. I've put

35:22

in the reps. I know

35:24

I can do this. And that's just like what I go and how

35:27

I go about it. Do you

35:29

get FOMO when you watch like a big

35:31

wave riders and stuff? Is that

35:33

something you'd ever try? Oh, I don't know.

35:35

Like surfing, the thing about my sport that

35:37

I appreciate about surfing is that a wave

35:40

is always different. You know, it's always different.

35:42

You never know what to expect. So I

35:44

couldn't imagine like going down my, I couldn't

35:46

imagine dropping in at a skate park blind

35:48

and then someone just like takes the blindfold

35:50

off and now I got to do tricks.

35:52

I'd be like, get fucked. Yeah, yeah. So

35:56

the thing about my, what I

35:58

have is like my setup. I have it

36:00

in my brain locked in. Like I have

36:02

like a simulation

36:05

of that rant perfectly sculpted in my mind. I

36:07

know how much air time I get. I know

36:09

what it feels like. I know the pressure I

36:11

feel in my hands and my feet when I'm

36:13

taking off the rant. So you're always visualizing. I

36:17

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fighter. That's how that's the

37:51

best way to practice. I can do it anywhere

37:53

I want. I can do it on the plane

37:55

over here. I practice and then I just transfer

37:57

that. So X games this weekend, it'll be like.

38:01

it'll be new jumps, but as soon as I

38:03

jump once through that line or jump like a

38:05

few times through that line, I now have downloaded

38:07

that. You've downloaded the whole course. And I know

38:09

the pressure, I know the time in the air,

38:12

I know the calculations, I go, okay, this is this amount

38:14

of time in the air, if I need to do two

38:16

flips, it needs to be like this fast. You know? That's

38:19

cool. That's so dope. It's like

38:21

you're literally, your brain's a computer.

38:23

How's your fiance deal with it?

38:26

Does she, does she get

38:28

nervous? Do you get nervous? No,

38:30

not at all. I don't feel like I get

38:32

nervous about it. It's too good. It's the same

38:35

as my mom. It's the same as my mom.

38:37

They, you start off nervous, right? But then you

38:39

watch me and how like I calculate so

38:41

much in my brain. I don't go out

38:43

there and I'm like, do my hardest trick

38:45

straight away. You know, it's like, it's like,

38:47

dude, You're smart. Do this

38:50

trick. Do this, do one back flip. Do one

38:52

back flip five times. It's not, the ramps not

38:54

going anywhere. I always try to tell these people,

38:56

like, they come to my house, especially the ramps

38:58

not going everywhere, anywhere, start small, jump at 10

39:00

times before you even do a trick over it.

39:03

Do one back flip 20 times before you try to

39:05

do two. It's always like that. No matter how many

39:07

you get to like getting to triple back flip, triple

39:10

back for 360. Like I'll do a triple

39:12

back flip three times, or like a

39:14

few times, you know, before I go on to a triple back for 360.

39:17

It's just be calculated. And then with

39:19

the Olympics, where's that crazy? Where's

39:22

it at the Olympics? So right.

39:24

So the Olympics BMX has been in

39:26

the Olympics for one, but

39:29

it's like park. So there's so many different

39:31

ways to ride. I always like to say

39:33

like Logan Martin, he's a park ride. He

39:36

does the Olympics and it's like dancing. Who's

39:38

the best dancer? I don't know. This guy's

39:40

so good at break dancing. He can't be,

39:42

he can't be ballerina. He can't be a

39:44

ballerina. You know, there's so many different ways

39:46

to dance. Same as BMX. It's like, I'm

39:49

a break dancer and the guys, the Olympics

39:51

are like ballerinas. So

39:53

there's nothing for you in the Olympics. No, I

39:55

mean, I can commentating the Olympics. So I have

39:57

the knowledge of the tricks and I have knowledge

39:59

of the. of all the riders, but I would

40:01

have to dedicate four

40:03

years of my life to that, just to that.

40:05

Which is a shame, so why don't they open

40:08

it up to more dancers? Yeah, yeah,

40:10

right. So I think that they will in the future,

40:12

but it's just like anything,

40:14

they try something out, and it's going

40:16

really well. And they've

40:18

got it again this year, and it's bigger,

40:20

there's more athletes going there, and it's a

40:23

huge event. And it's a hard thing, because

40:26

there has to be so many...

40:29

Countries, right? That participate? Yeah, but not only

40:31

that, there's so much that goes into it. You

40:33

have to have a world championship circuit to get

40:36

to the Olympics. You can't just be like,

40:38

oh, this guy will go, yeah, mate, that

40:40

guy, I reckon this guy's pretty good. You're going

40:42

to qualify, yeah. No, it's like... I wonder, when

40:44

the music stops, everybody has to stop eventually,

40:46

when you're like 40 or whatever. What do

40:48

you think you'll get into? You ever think about

40:50

that? Is there another thing you can get into

40:53

at that age? Off-road racing? Yeah, maybe, right?

40:55

Something to keep the adrenaline in. Yeah, maybe

40:57

with a motorized car, something like that. I

40:59

did commentating, so I've done that a few

41:01

times, so I'm really into that, because I

41:03

just... If you're commentating at the Olympics, you're

41:05

pretty fucking good. Yeah, no, I'd be so

41:07

down with that. I've been commentating pretty big

41:10

events, so that'd be good, and then just

41:12

training, people can come to my facility. I

41:14

don't know, I've not really thought about it,

41:16

because I'm hammering. He's in it. He'll be

41:18

fine. He's competing the X-Men. We've got a

41:20

lot more riding. It's like asking the UFC champion, what are

41:22

you going to do? Yeah, I like it. You

41:25

got a lot more. You got a lot more to do. Just keep going. No,

41:28

it's like the week of the title fight, and like,

41:30

hey man, after the race, I'm

41:32

like, what the fuck? I'm not thinking

41:35

about that. It is good

41:37

to think about it, though. It's smart. No, but maybe it's not

41:39

good to think about it. I'm just thinking that it's such an

41:41

extreme way to live, and it's so much fun. You're not going

41:43

to win, though. If he had a perfect answer, what he's going

41:45

to do at this... That's right. You got one foot in, one

41:47

foot out. Whoever he's going against this weekend, I'm betting on those

41:49

guys. That's right. If he had a whole plan, I was like,

41:52

we'll see how this weekend's going, but I got... I

41:54

brought my own vegetables. I'm like, oh, you're out. That's

41:56

right. He's not all lit. Every single time you see that,

41:58

that's so true. When fighters start talking... I'm like one

42:00

foot in like, oh man, here's my whatever

42:02

business. I'm like, oh, he's screwed. Cause the

42:05

guy he's fighting doesn't give a fuck about

42:07

anything. But Saturday you said that, you'll

42:09

hear guys like they'll start doing movies or they'll say, Hey, wait

42:11

a minute. That's why I knew I was done. Yeah. We're doing

42:13

this podcast and I was like, yeah. And we were going to

42:16

do live ones and conflict with a final. I was like, Oh

42:18

man, I want to do the live one. Uh,

42:20

I better say no. I'm fighting LeVar Johnson.

42:22

Do you know where? And I remember this

42:25

when you said biker gang. I remember when

42:27

you said, cause I was, we were, we

42:30

became really good friends and I was so worried about

42:32

him because I liked him so much, but he was

42:34

so funny. And he was, and I was like, what's

42:36

he going to do? Like fighting, like, you know, what's

42:38

he going to do after it? I had, I

42:41

was a calm and I remember you

42:43

said, we started doing a podcast and started

42:45

kind of getting traction. It's like, what is

42:47

this? Nobody knew what a podcast was. We

42:49

were like, and then you said after

42:51

my fight, man, I'm just going to go fight her in

42:53

a kid. And I was like, Oh, this motherfucker. You're

42:56

thinking already after the fight that you're going to

42:58

promote this podcast and you were out. I wore

43:00

a fire kid t-shirt on the walk. Turn down

43:02

$20,000 and we're firing our Abbott Kenny fight club

43:04

t-shirt. That's right. That's a sponsor. That's right. So

43:06

I bet on us. That's right. And that's what

43:08

that, yeah. And you were like, but then you

43:10

can't do both. Like you gotta be all in

43:12

on that or all in on this, but you're

43:14

not going to do both. Like

43:16

if you had a solid answer, I'd be like,

43:18

Oh man. Well, cause the, the, the, the, it's

43:21

too dire. Like you can't, you're too competitive. Your

43:23

head's gotta be all in anyway. It's too, can't

43:25

make a mistake. It's too tough. I

43:27

invested like a lot, like cause people, I

43:30

get this, I've gotten shit my whole life from

43:33

like, when I started riding a scooter, it was

43:35

like, this guy, I arrived as a scooter cause

43:37

it's fucking easy. And then I'm like, like, whatever.

43:39

And then, okay, I'll do these tricks on black.

43:41

And then I do all these tricks on the

43:43

black. And the people are like, he only does

43:45

that cause he's on nitro circus and like, it's

43:47

too a resi. It's easy. Like he couldn't compete

43:49

in the X games. And then I got in

43:51

the X games and I won gold medal and

43:53

they're like, Oh, he's just doing fucking scooter tricks.

43:55

Like, this is so gay. Like, why is this

43:57

your stylish trick? And I'm like, fuck man. Like

43:59

I like doing the stylish tricks, but I get

44:01

a hundred. when I'm chilling. So I've just always

44:04

learned that. And that's why I always try to

44:06

tell everyone there's always gonna be the haters. And

44:08

it's just like, just believe in yourself and just

44:11

invest in yourself. And that's what I did.

44:13

I bought these, I spent out the ass

44:15

on these bag jumps and these ress and

44:17

this all this compound. And

44:19

four years later, it's just, it's

44:22

multiplied my. Best investment. We

44:24

always talk about how like

44:26

you'll get hate. If you're in the public

44:28

eye, when it's you're gonna get weird shit.

44:31

And then like you'll be friends, people that are

44:33

like yourself that are just at the top of

44:35

the game, right? Like are just crushing it. Could

44:37

be people that you're like, who are just killing

44:39

it in real intimate. And then you look at

44:42

their hate and you're like, wait, first of all,

44:44

what is to hate? How do you do that?

44:46

It's just the way the world works. Like anybody

44:48

trying anything really hard, like it triggers people that

44:51

didn't take that risk so that it's easier to

44:53

tear down than to create. So like what you're

44:56

doing, there's probably some guy that wanted to do

44:58

it, but shit just happened. It didn't work out

45:00

and they see you live in your dream. And

45:02

it's so upset. It's never

45:04

gonna work. Tesla, then none of this is gonna

45:06

work. They always, always, always telling me he's full

45:08

of shit. Always tell me something. Yeah. And

45:11

just the world. Like if Elon got on there was like,

45:14

Hey, should I build an electric car business? Vote yes or

45:16

no. It's gonna be 90%. If

45:18

you got on there at 12, if today's. Like

45:20

he run scooter. Hey, should I try and make a

45:22

living riding a scooter? Let me know how it goes.

45:25

If I was your dad, I would've been like, you're

45:27

not doing this. But even a five star recruit, if

45:29

he gets on social media right now and goes, Hey,

45:31

I'm thinking about going to Alabama. I think

45:33

I should put all my eggs in this basket and try to

45:36

get to the NFL. The amount of no's

45:38

are gonna way, way out. But

45:40

it's just the way people are. They

45:43

play it safe. It's just

45:45

like, no man, go get a nine to five. It's crazy kid. And

45:47

if I listened to any one of

45:50

the people that told me that scootering wouldn't do anything

45:52

for me, then I wouldn't be in this position here

45:54

today. Like I would be doing something else. I don't

45:56

even know what I'd be doing. But that's why you

45:58

are who you are. There's a lot of guys do

46:00

listen and go, ah, he's right, man. I'm just gonna

46:02

work with my dad or whatever it is. And then

46:05

there's the outliers like, get the fuck out of here.

46:07

And you're fucking doing flips like a psycho, you know?

46:10

A thousand, think about how many times it is. Like

46:12

that's a thousand times. Yeah, my ass is real sore

46:14

actually, cause I'd fall, I'd fall all right. Like I'd

46:16

fall on my ass, but I fell on my ass

46:18

so much that my ass cheeks rubbed together that like

46:20

I had rash from my ass cheeks

46:23

just rubbing together the chafing. That's not stopped. It was not,

46:25

yeah, it was not the vibe. But then I landed and

46:27

then- I have some ointment, let me see what's going on.

46:31

But then yeah, you see it, I land the trick

46:33

and then it's like worth it. I always tell myself

46:35

like, when I'm doing something and it's 500 tries in,

46:38

I'm like, if you're gonna land the

46:40

next one, it's gonna be worth it.

46:42

Like it makes it worth the next,

46:44

the land makes all the journey worth

46:46

it. Yeah, man. It's such a solitary

46:48

thing too, right? Like it's like, it's

46:50

not a team thing. It's just that

46:52

you're having this communion with yourself all

46:54

the time. Talking to yourself,

46:56

is the X games or is

46:58

the BMX community, are they

47:01

kind of all one man? Like I'm so-

47:03

No, I believe- They're pretty cool together. I

47:05

believe it or not, like obviously it's an

47:07

individual sport. But it's like, we

47:10

know the consequences. So it's not like- The

47:12

fraternity. Yeah, you can't go out there and

47:14

be like, you know if this guy, if

47:17

you go out there and you're

47:19

like, I'm gonna do my best. I hope he doesn't do his

47:21

best. It's like, if he crashes,

47:23

he could really hurt himself. And like, we're

47:25

friends, we're great friends. We're all taking risks.

47:27

So on the top of the rolling, we're

47:29

like, get it dude. Like have fun, get

47:31

this stuff. And that's because there's a small

47:33

percentage of the population that realize what you're

47:35

risking, what it takes to even get to

47:37

that level. So whether you knock that trick

47:39

out or not or nail it, they know

47:41

what it takes. It's like UFC, even if

47:43

you're fighting another guy after there's like that

47:45

respect, could you go the camp, the amount

47:47

of balls it took to even walk into

47:49

the cage? So no matter what weight class

47:51

it is, there's like this fraternity where I

47:53

get it, man. There's a huge mutual respect.

47:56

And understanding. I think also when a guy

47:58

gets starched right away, guys,

50:00

cause they have personalities and it blows up and

50:02

it puts it on the map and just keeps

50:04

going for whatever it is another 50 years. So

50:07

I feel like with X games, when I was a kid,

50:09

X games was massive. Whatever ESPN

50:11

had their issues, it kind of went away and

50:13

then now it's back. Yeah. Shout

50:16

out to your mom though, too. Because like

50:18

a lot of moms, when they saw

50:20

their kids doing that would scare them.

50:22

Protect them. Like so my mom, when I was

50:24

skiing and I was jumping and I was jumping

50:26

a lot. And then my sister came back and

50:29

said, Brian's jumping cause I love that I was

50:31

trying to jump as high. She goes, Brian's jumping

50:33

super high. It's so scary. And my

50:35

mother, you know what my mother said to me? Put a star

50:37

phone. She goes that too. But

50:39

she said, be careful

50:41

because if you, if you

50:43

miscalculate, she catastrophes everything. I'm never forgotten.

50:45

She graduates. She goes, this literally she

50:48

said to me, she goes, be,

50:50

and I was never had so much more fun

50:52

in my life. She goes, be careful cause if

50:54

you miscalculate, you could hit your skis and

50:57

your, your skis will stop. And these

50:59

bones will come out. They

51:01

were right out. She said, she was just trying

51:03

to tear. I was fucking, I was like, I

51:05

don't know, 12 or 11. I was

51:07

like, well, that's not what I want at all.

51:09

And she put that in my head and I

51:12

never skied again. Hey now dude, should we give

51:14

your mom credit? Cause that would have went nowhere.

51:16

Right? What do you mean? I can't do it.

51:20

If you do that, you're going to die. Don't do

51:22

that because she wanted you to, but I could have

51:24

been Ryan Williams. You never know. Why are you pissing

51:26

on my dreams now? I'm 11 years old. That's true,

51:28

but you know what I mean? You can't let 11

51:30

year old fucking like dream a little bit. Unbelievable. Clipping

51:33

my fucking wings. Ryan, I'm gonna talk

51:35

to you. But also your mom's the same mom.

51:37

And I, there's some moms like that. When you're

51:39

on escalators, like, oh honey, do not. This is

51:41

my joke. Cause cause if the shoelace is gonna

51:43

get caught, it's going to rip your legs. My

51:45

mother would say that's never because if it gets

51:47

caught in the bus and the shit,

51:49

tell me a story. You know, the bus is

51:51

closed and the little girl lost her head. I'm

51:54

like, Hey, what the fuck man? Part of it's your fault.

51:56

Part of it's your fault as it's just who you are.

51:59

As you listen to your. Your mom, like, I should probably

52:01

ride him and die. You saying I'm a mama's boy? Dude,

52:03

I can't fucking get an answer. Yeah, you're a little bitch,

52:05

right? You're a little bitch, right? Because if I tell my

52:07

kids we're swimming, I was like, hey, be careful, there's a

52:09

nest over there. I'm like, you hit that nest. They're going

52:11

to come out there and kill you. Boss and I kill

52:13

you? And Tyler's like, hmm. I look out there, he has

52:15

a stick. And you're

52:17

just risk takers. Your mom never really told you

52:19

to worry about that. She was supportive. She was

52:21

always super supportive. Obviously, at the start, I'm just

52:23

at the skate park. I'm not really riding a

52:25

20-hour court mega-ramp. I was

52:27

in your pain for your house. He kind of graduated.

52:30

Also, his mom was a badass competitor. I was going

52:32

to say, and you're 15, and they're sending you places

52:34

to do it. After I was at the

52:36

skate park for a year and I didn't come back with a

52:38

smashed face in it, she was like, OK, maybe he's

52:40

doing it right. And then I was getting sponsored.

52:44

And I don't know. I go home and he's

52:46

like, Mom, look at what I did. And she'd

52:48

be like, well, let's see. And then she'd know

52:50

if I had scrapes and bruises. But

52:52

I don't know. But how great

52:54

is that? I'd way rather my kid doing that than

52:56

playing video games depending. Teaches

52:59

you just consequences

53:02

for your actions. And

53:04

then it teaches you persistence if you want to

53:06

learn a trick. So it helped me in so

53:08

many parts of my life. But you also have

53:10

to grow up pretty fast. Because if you're flying

53:12

around and doing all this shit, I mean, you're

53:14

a teenager. They're in your early 20s. You're having

53:16

some success, some fame. There's money there. I'm

53:19

sure you can go down a weird road. And

53:21

also, if you're an extremist, I don't give a fuck what

53:23

it is. UFC, stand-up, NFL. When

53:26

you're around that stuff, then you have

53:28

that. You want to experience like you're always running

53:30

at the highest level. A lot of snakes with

53:32

apples going to take a bite. And then that

53:34

apple might be full of cocaine or big tits.

53:36

And also, it's like a lot of tough things.

53:39

A lot of apples with curves. So what I'm

53:41

saying, I wasn't at that level at that young

53:43

age. It must have been tough being young on

53:45

your own. Getting my sleeves ripped off

53:47

from Travis Pastrana at the after-party. You know that

53:49

they rip your sleeves off. Yeah, they just rip

53:51

your sleeves off. They have

53:53

a drink. Because all athletes,

53:55

I feel like action sports is such

53:57

a risk and reward sport that. Yeah,

54:00

you don't mind taking a few risks here

54:02

and there. Adrenaline junkies. Adrenaline junkies. But

54:04

I get a lot of it just doing the tricks. Doing a

54:06

new trick that I've never tried before is

54:10

enough to, is the biggest rush I could get. I

54:12

was gonna say, what sounds interesting is that, like it's

54:14

like, it's not, the performance is awesome, but it's coming

54:16

up with the stuff and surprising yourself. Yeah, the journey's

54:18

always super fun too. I feel like that's how stand-up

54:20

is when you write a joke. Like I get more

54:22

satisfaction out of writing something. If it works. I kind

54:24

of know what's gonna work already. At this point, I've

54:26

done it so long. What if I come up with

54:29

a thing, I'm like, dude, that's gonna be really good.

54:31

What about like, if you change a little bit and

54:33

it lands so much harder, you're like, oh, that's like

54:35

me with the trick. I'm like, man, why isn't this

54:37

working? And then I'll change like one little thing and

54:39

it'll just go, it'll be like. Stand-up's just a- And

54:41

I'm like, let's go. I think it's all you, right?

54:43

It's all you. I'll be on the plane and I

54:45

was like, I've been doing the same thing. And all

54:48

of a sudden I go, wait. And

54:50

I rehashed it and I was like, fuck, this

54:52

is so much better. And it was just like

54:54

a tweak, but it's like, it's night and day.

54:57

I think that's kind of what, I

54:59

don't know. I think maybe that's why I love it so much. Nothing

55:02

is like that. And

55:04

so whether you're coming up with ways to make

55:06

people laugh or coming up with ways to go,

55:08

wow, this is what you're doing. It's kind of,

55:10

it's a similar thing. I'd imagine somebody who writes

55:12

a song is the same. When they write this

55:14

sick song, they're like, this is gonna kill. Yeah,

55:17

and I feel like you're always creating. I feel

55:19

like I mesh well with the people, like the

55:21

UFC fighters too, because it's a lot of risk

55:23

and reward. So I always get along with like

55:25

all the UFC fighters, Volkonovski, Starbinder, I talked to,

55:27

he's been like watching a lot of my stuff.

55:29

And I was always like, are you doing this?

55:31

It's like, cause he's the best. Cause we

55:34

take the risk and sometimes you lose and

55:36

sometimes you win. It's a fraternity. They recognize

55:39

that. They recognize something. And I said, why?

55:41

It's a fraternity. Yeah. Cause

55:43

I'm like fighting the ground. Yeah. And

55:45

sometimes it wins. And yeah. Like

55:48

the guy inside, it's not a knock on him.

55:50

It's just, I can't relate to those guys. It's

55:52

like nine to five or like the guy that

55:54

works at Reemax, he just doesn't get like how

55:56

it's this, it's this risk reward

55:58

thing. And there's, there's. There's no backup plan. Like you're

56:00

not gonna get to your level if you have a

56:02

plan B all your life, you have rich parents. You're

56:05

not gonna become Izzy if you have rich parents. It

56:07

just doesn't happen. And you guys, like

56:09

you made it, which is so rare

56:11

and so damn tough. Poverty is, you

56:14

know, creates that hunger, just like longing,

56:16

whatever it might be, longing is really

56:18

important. Just wanting stuff you

56:20

can't. My buddy just, my buddy

56:23

just, fucking, good friend of mine, his

56:26

company's about to be a billion dollar company. I knew you

56:28

were gonna say billion. I knew it

56:30

was gonna be billion. That's a lot of millions. No,

56:32

but like crazy money. Yeah, wow. Came up with something

56:34

10 years ago and followed

56:36

it through. And now they just

56:39

like yesterday, like it just

56:41

sold. His name's Elon Musk. It's gonna, yeah, but he's,

56:43

no, no, it just sold. Brian just fell in shape,

56:45

he's like Elon Musk is a friend of mine. Elon

56:47

Musk is a good buddy, but he just sold it.

56:50

And like I was talking to him

56:52

and his childhood, like he was like,

56:54

I was physically hungry growing up. Like

56:57

I grew up, my dad was a mechanic. Like

56:59

we were hungry. We had to split, he already, Dominic

57:01

Cruz talks about that. Like they had to split a

57:04

happy meal and it's like that

57:06

kind of stuff. And now he's, and

57:08

I go, what's he gonna, how are you gonna, what's that do

57:10

to you? And he goes, I still have work to do, bro.

57:12

Like he can't shut it off. No, that

57:15

never leaves. But I think there's a story of

57:17

like, the kid who's hungry and wants to make

57:19

money, scheme buy things and that's great. There's that.

57:21

But then there's also kids come from blue

57:23

collar families and they don't have to be

57:25

divorced or drug addicts. And there's fucking, there's

57:28

some reason, there's some

57:30

chip on their shoulder, whatever it is, whether

57:32

they're playing little league and their best friend's parents

57:34

had money and bought the kid the cool gloves

57:36

or whatever he got the attention. And

57:38

for whatever reason, it puts a fucking chip

57:41

on the kid's shoulder and he's gonna make

57:43

it. Cause he always feels maybe

57:45

he's second best all the time when he might

57:47

be the best. Just listen to Jordan's whole theme

57:49

speech. Sure. So it's like, whatever

57:51

your motivation is, it can come from anything.

57:54

It doesn't have to come from poverty. It

57:56

might be a rich kid. There's rich kids or fuck their

57:58

work ethics are nuts. their dads, whatever super

58:00

famous, and they have this chip on their shoulder.

58:03

Like I could get out from underneath this shadow,

58:05

my dad, and their work ethic is nuts, man.

58:07

So it just, it comes from all sorts of

58:09

different places. For me, I think it was just

58:11

like an opportunity. When I got opportunities, I just

58:13

capitalized on the opportunities. As long as you appreciate

58:16

the opportunities that I've put up in front of

58:18

you, and you like do your best to try

58:20

capitalize on it, that's like the main thing that

58:22

I feel like got me where I am. Like

58:25

it was, I started school. Obviously there was

58:27

something, I had my persistence. I had my consistency, but a

58:29

lot of people have that as well, and they don't make

58:31

it just because they don't ever get noticed, or

58:33

they don't ever get the opportunity. But I got it. Or

58:36

they get the opportunity and don't show up. Yeah. Like

58:38

there's, again, we're talking about practice. Yeah. You

58:40

know what I'm saying? Like there's guys I'm sure they can do

58:42

crazy shit on your ramp at home. And then

58:45

the cameras, then the X games are like, oh shit,

58:47

you don't. You had a lot of fighters like that, right

58:49

guys? There's fighter, I tried to get

58:51

some fighters. I'm like, this guy's never gonna lose. Yeah.

58:54

This guy, oh my God, I'm fucked. I'm like number

58:56

10. This guy beat the shit on me for three

58:58

rounds. Wow. And people

59:00

bought tickets. They gotta make that walk. And I show

59:02

up. Yeah. And he's shitting his pants.

59:04

And he's stiff. And he's not fighting the same.

59:06

So there's people that show up like they're game

59:09

time players. Yeah. And there's practice

59:11

players. But did you ever feel, did you

59:13

always feel like nervous? Or did you always

59:15

get, yeah, yes. So that's like me, like

59:17

I'm always, I always feel the

59:20

exact same nervousness. And I feel like almost

59:22

sick, but it almost turns a crazy thing.

59:24

Like I don't know what turns on, but

59:26

something turns on where I do better. I

59:29

feel like I'm like, I feel like I'm about

59:32

to vomit, about to drop in, but then something

59:34

just like clicks. And it's like almost like I'm

59:36

hyper focused. It's like I'm locked in to this

59:38

crazy mode of like, just on. And that's a

59:40

special skill. Have you had it before where you

59:43

weren't nervous and you did bad? Probably.

59:46

But yeah, I've had it where I wasn't nervous.

59:48

I'm like, oh, this is cool. I was nervous.

59:50

I had the worst performance ever. Yeah. If

59:53

you don't have those nerves, you're not gonna perform as

59:55

good. Like you need those nerves because it fires everything

59:57

up. It like heightens everything. Yeah, you can almost use

59:59

it. to your advantage. That's what GSP

1:00:01

says. He's like, everyone has nerves. I'm just

1:00:03

the best at getting those butterflies in my

1:00:05

stomach to align. Wasn't he always

1:00:07

terrified before a fight? The worst, he was. The

1:00:09

worst, yeah, the worst. GSP. I know

1:00:12

guys that vomit every time they do X games,

1:00:14

they vomit before they ride. But they do well,

1:00:16

but they're so nervous that they're vulnerable. There are

1:00:18

a lot of performers like that. And it's not

1:00:20

me though. There are a lot of performers like

1:00:22

that though. Yeah, it's crazy. And then they go

1:00:24

out and kick ass. Meryl Streep's that way, the

1:00:26

greatest actress. She's just always like, I don't fucking

1:00:28

know. That'd be crazy being an

1:00:30

actor and being that nervous. Well, she and I do the

1:00:32

Meryl Streep. Hey, you get 20 takes. I

1:00:34

know, no way. I know, but so

1:00:37

my friend directed her first. She was reading a

1:00:39

book. It was for a book. And

1:00:41

she's in the hallway going like this. Oh

1:00:44

God, I get a thing at the time. She's like, are

1:00:46

you nervous? Well, four of us. Your friend was buying creams on

1:00:48

the show. My friend was directing her. Reading

1:00:51

him a book. You know, we were like, yeah. And this is

1:00:53

like a book on tape. I wouldn't be nervous even though she's,

1:00:55

I don't know. It's because she cares.

1:00:57

Yeah, cares. Yeah.

1:01:00

Yeah. This was the, so, so, uh, fucking, uh,

1:01:02

but the confidence, that's like me, I was the nervous, the most

1:01:05

nervous I've ever been. Austin

1:01:07

asked him to marry

1:01:09

me. Terrifying. I

1:01:11

couldn't speak that I was in Japan. I was

1:01:13

like, I'm doing under the cherry blossoms in Japan.

1:01:16

And there was like the first place we went

1:01:18

to, the cherry blossoms had like all died. So

1:01:20

there was none on the tree. And I'm like,

1:01:22

no, there's like two or three flowers. I'm like,

1:01:24

shit. I picture it. Exactly. We'll go to

1:01:26

the next one. She's like, why are we going to another cherry awesome

1:01:29

place? I'm like, just try. It's on the way. It's

1:01:31

on the way. It's on the way to the next

1:01:33

spot. And then anyway, yeah, I found the spot. And

1:01:36

then I was like, okay, I

1:01:38

practiced like four sentences in the shower that morning. I

1:01:40

like, I know, I know what I'm going to say.

1:01:42

I said like one and a half of it. And

1:01:44

then I'm like, will you marry? Like after competing at

1:01:46

X games, we were

1:01:48

gold medals, uh, doing nitrous circus in front of

1:01:51

like 30,000 people in South Africa, do

1:01:53

my tricks. No worries. Let's

1:01:55

go. And then I can't just talk

1:01:57

to the woman. I love like it.

1:01:59

Say words. How are you dating? You

1:02:01

guys dating? About four years. Wow. How'd you

1:02:03

meet? A few mutual friends

1:02:05

and then we went on a date to Sushi. And

1:02:07

she dropped mayonnaise on my shoe. I like Chinese chopsticks.

1:02:10

So I shot it across the table. What

1:02:13

happened? Oh, she can't use chopsticks.

1:02:15

So she's like trying to use chopsticks and she dropped

1:02:17

the mayonnaise like under the table under my shoe. It's

1:02:19

just something I always remember at Sushi. And

1:02:22

don't you guys call like crabs,

1:02:24

like crustaceans, bugs in Australia? I

1:02:27

think they do. But yeah, we don't really have much. Crabs?

1:02:30

We just crab. Because we're being

1:02:33

chipped. What do you call it? Bugs? Oh,

1:02:36

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:02:38

saw the menu and said bugs. I'm like, no,

1:02:40

yeah, we have. So I mind my mind.

1:02:43

I'm thinking like cockroaches, grasshoppers.

1:02:45

But I call, I call shrimp, sea roaches. So

1:02:47

yeah, there are bugs. They're on the bug family.

1:02:50

Yeah, I didn't order because gross me out. Yeah.

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a nurse too, so he's out there. Oh,

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you are, damn. I am, yeah. So if

1:04:51

he walks around injured, I know when he's

1:04:53

faking in a room. That's cool. Oh, that's

1:04:55

so cool. The next game is when I

1:04:57

end up winning two gold medals and one

1:04:59

silver medal. And I was like, I got

1:05:01

so sick and she's like, I couldn't even get out of

1:05:03

bed. She's like, I'm going to go get your stuff. She

1:05:05

went to the chemist and she like got all this concoction

1:05:08

of like drugs. And I'm like, I just,

1:05:10

then I got to write practice. And then, yeah, then I won.

1:05:12

It felt good. And I got to,

1:05:14

I had to stay at the motel six because

1:05:16

last year I wasn't sponsored by like monster or

1:05:19

anyone. So I had to, ah, who knows? Ask

1:05:21

them, mate. But for a long time. I can,

1:05:23

yeah. Yeah, you can ask them. They

1:05:26

are now. I'm stoked. But basically I was, well, I

1:05:28

was paying my own way and I was like, we'll

1:05:30

just stay at motel six. It's so close. Like we

1:05:32

don't know what, we didn't know really why the motel

1:05:34

six was. Yeah. And

1:05:36

then we get there the first night, there's like a police

1:05:38

raid and like, I was

1:05:40

like, I got to do it. Yeah, when you

1:05:42

want to mix meth or traffic, traffic people, you

1:05:45

use a motel. So then the first night is

1:05:47

police raid. And then I have the competition the

1:05:49

next day. So I do my first, I do,

1:05:51

oh no, like the, the elimination round, which is

1:05:53

like just the first one just

1:05:55

to get in the finals. So I do that.

1:05:58

I get through that night. There's a fire brigade.

1:06:00

And then the next day I win

1:06:02

two gold medal, I win one silver medal and one

1:06:04

gold medal. And I'm like, let's get a

1:06:06

better hotel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get

1:06:08

the hell out of here. Let's get the fuck out of here. But

1:06:11

it took me winning two medals to get us into.

1:06:13

I was like, surely a gold medalist isn't gonna stay

1:06:15

at the motel six any longer. No, we can't have

1:06:17

that. No, we can't have that. No, we can't have

1:06:19

that. Addicts outside like the window, like growling at

1:06:22

night. I'm like, oh, I'm scared, please. And what

1:06:24

city was this in? Ventura. Oh,

1:06:26

yeah. Okay, it'll get rough. Ventura will get rough. There's

1:06:29

a lot of math, a lot of speed. I like

1:06:31

Ventura as a city, but it can be a certain

1:06:33

part of the park. I've seen breaking bad. Yeah, it

1:06:35

can be, yeah. But I think that's just instilled in

1:06:37

me from my childhood too. I just like to hold

1:06:39

on to money a little bit. Now you travel, don't

1:06:41

question me. You travel with your bike or do they

1:06:43

have a bike? No, yeah, I got two bikes and

1:06:46

I pull them fully apart and they fit in a bag that's

1:06:48

not even, there's one in oversized, which is kind of bigger. I

1:06:50

can kind of keep my bike a little bit. Oh, you can

1:06:52

carry your bike with you? Yeah, yeah. How much do they

1:06:54

weigh? It takes it apart. I don't

1:06:56

know in pounds, sorry, but it's like 10 kilos. It's

1:06:58

pretty light, my bike. It's got titanium on it. 22

1:07:01

pounds? Yeah. They're

1:07:03

light, yeah. Yeah, it's super light, but it's

1:07:05

not a motorbike. No. Ryan's

1:07:09

like, how do you bring your Harley on

1:07:11

the airplane? I know you ride your chopper.

1:07:13

I knew you ride, I knew you rode

1:07:15

scooters and I knew you rode bikes, but

1:07:17

I just always assumed all you guys, you

1:07:20

also rode motorcycles. Maybe next fan, but it's

1:07:22

the risk factor. They can't fall

1:07:24

off a thousand times. They have

1:07:26

airbags though and that's really helped. That's

1:07:28

really pushed the level. Like Travis Ostrana has invested in

1:07:30

a lot of like that bag jump technology where it's

1:07:32

like, you can kind of crash, but still, even if

1:07:35

you, if you land upside down

1:07:37

on an airbag, you've still got a motorbike above

1:07:39

your head. That's going to crush you. It's like

1:07:41

hundreds of pounds. So yeah, that's where I like,

1:07:44

unless there's something I could do that

1:07:46

I know I could land on a motorbike. Fuck that,

1:07:49

stay with bikes, bro. Yeah, I think I'm going to

1:07:51

stick with the bike. It's still just as exciting. Have

1:07:53

you ever tried any extreme sports? Nope.

1:07:56

Oh wait, I was talking to one of you. When I

1:07:58

was skiing, my. My mom told me my

1:08:00

bones would pop out of my fucking shits. Way

1:08:03

to ruin my life. I grew up snowboarding because I grew up in

1:08:05

Denver. It's not that extreme. Well,

1:08:07

it can be. You fought in a cage with

1:08:10

giant men. That's it. Hold

1:08:12

on, bro. Do you

1:08:14

remember the guys you used to practice with who were

1:08:16

six foot eight trying to punch you in the face

1:08:19

as hard as they could? Yeah, that's pretty extreme. Who

1:08:21

were pro kickboxers. I mean, I do off-road racing now,

1:08:23

which is, I mean, it's pretty fucking, I didn't realize

1:08:25

how dangerous it was that I was actually out there

1:08:27

on the course. That's pretty fucking extreme. You practiced in

1:08:30

your truck, didn't you? I've seen that. That was on

1:08:32

accident. That was on accident. Yeah, that one. But dude,

1:08:34

it's not the same as getting punched in the face

1:08:36

by giants. Different. It's all extreme.

1:08:38

Like it's just different. Like that off-road race

1:08:40

is fucking dangerous, dude. I've never been in

1:08:42

a fight my whole life. Never

1:08:46

been in one fight my whole life. But you love

1:08:48

UFC. Yeah, I do. I love the UFC, but

1:08:50

I just watch it. You get your kicks out

1:08:52

of the other. What's this now? I'd like to.

1:08:55

Oh. Well, we heard it was

1:08:57

someone's birthday. It's your birthday? Yeah,

1:09:00

two days ago. Oh

1:09:02

shit, happy birthday. What, you got BMXs and scooters

1:09:04

on it? Oh. Look at that.

1:09:07

Dude, that's so much. Thanks for spending your

1:09:09

day. And that comes with a gift certificate

1:09:11

to Motel sex. That's right.

1:09:13

That's right, a free stay. Yeah, free stay. Two

1:09:15

nights on us. You stick to a diet

1:09:18

or no? Yeah, well, not a

1:09:20

specific diet. I just don't eat bad.

1:09:22

I've just always kinda, I just feel

1:09:24

better. When

1:09:26

I eat good, when I eat bad, sorry, is more,

1:09:28

I feel not 100%. And if

1:09:30

you're not feeling 100% when you're doing like

1:09:32

these tricks, it's just. You gotta be on, man. It's like,

1:09:35

imagine having a fight and you're like, I'm gonna eat Macca's

1:09:37

before it like. No, no. Now I'm

1:09:39

gonna get my ass beat and I'm full of

1:09:41

McDonald's. Yeah, just mentally too, you know. Yeah, I

1:09:43

always eat, just try to eat clean. And then,

1:09:45

I mean, I'm 30 years old, so I'm just

1:09:47

trying to stay fit and compete with 21 year

1:09:49

olds, you know. Well,

1:09:51

we got some cupcakes for you. We got cupcakes. You

1:09:54

got some current invention. Will you

1:09:56

watch the, because you're, the X Games, like what, you guys

1:09:58

do it during the day still? Yeah, yeah. So

1:10:00

you'll be able to watch the UFC 303 on Saturday. Yeah,

1:10:04

I wish I could fly. It's on Saturday. It's

1:10:06

on Saturday. Yeah, so it's gonna be the same

1:10:08

day I'm competing. But I'm

1:10:10

excited. I'm going to Perth. That's

1:10:12

a big thing. Yeah, I know. It just

1:10:14

got even better. I got my flight. I

1:10:16

surprised my mom. You should have seen, I surprised

1:10:18

my mom and she started beating me up

1:10:20

in the kitchen. Really? You go to the

1:10:22

UFC and she's like, what? She started punching

1:10:24

me. She loves it. Oh, she loves it.

1:10:26

Because they announced Strickland, the duplicis and then I

1:10:28

think that's a out of Sonya. Oh,

1:10:31

would I say strictly? Oh, I'm sorry. But

1:10:33

I think they're, I bet you they announced Strickland

1:10:35

versus Whitaker. When is this? That's

1:10:37

what I think they're going to do. When is this

1:10:39

August 17? August. Cause you could think about

1:10:42

it. Whitaker doesn't have a mark on him. Starched on the

1:10:44

way. And then Strickland is chilling. That

1:10:46

was the fight. Yeah. I know that

1:10:49

they said that he'd be Robert could be the backup,

1:10:51

but they just chucked him in. But

1:10:53

that's wild to go straight into Strickland.

1:10:55

That's crazy. It's a sick fight. They're

1:10:57

supposed to fight before it

1:11:00

was offered. What do you

1:11:02

think of that? Who do you think? Me? I

1:11:04

never bet against out of Sonya. I think out

1:11:07

of Sonya is greatness. And I think he's going to

1:11:09

be. You know, the first UFC fight. So the

1:11:12

way I met Dana, he posted one of

1:11:14

my videos and then I messaged him back.

1:11:17

He's like, you're the absolute goat of action

1:11:19

sports. You're crazy. And I'm like, dude, you're

1:11:21

coming to Melbourne a few days after nitro

1:11:23

circus. You want to come to nitro circus.

1:11:25

So he came to nitro circus. This is

1:11:27

like maybe six years ago. And he came

1:11:29

to nitro circus was on the field and

1:11:31

he like experienced the biggest part of the

1:11:33

show. He was like, I'm going to buy

1:11:35

this. Yeah, right. And

1:11:37

then two days. It might've been you. I'm

1:11:39

like, I like it. I'll take it. Yeah.

1:11:42

And then two days later, it

1:11:44

was, I went

1:11:46

to my first UFC fight and I was

1:11:48

in containers. I hooked up with tickets and

1:11:50

I'm like, oh shit, cool. And I'm sitting next

1:11:53

to Chris Hensworth. I'm like, what? What's

1:11:55

going on? The one dude. It's not thrilling too, isn't

1:11:57

it? Oh yeah. Yeah. And

1:11:59

then I was sitting. Cause I was, I'm

1:12:01

a huge fan of Starbender, but then I

1:12:03

was sitting next to Whitaker's family and obviously

1:12:05

I'm Australian. So I love Whitaker. So I'm

1:12:08

like, I'm all about anime and stuff. So I

1:12:10

was like, I love Starbender, but then I'm sitting

1:12:13

with Whitaker's family. And that was the first time

1:12:15

I realized like, wow, like this is gnarly to

1:12:17

sit next to the family. There's had so, I

1:12:20

was like, I have to. Especially when they lose.

1:12:22

Yes. It's heartbreaking. Could you

1:12:24

see it just, it's up. So when

1:12:26

I, when I was working at Showtime,

1:12:28

is that me, my brother next to

1:12:30

the guy, I forget his name who Deontay Wilder was

1:12:33

fighting. He was a dead man walking. I

1:12:35

mean, it was a horrible fight. And, and when I

1:12:37

sat down, I take his, and my brother's like, man,

1:12:39

he's ringside. I was like, this is cool. And

1:12:42

I looked over and I, I'm like, and then I saw

1:12:44

the shirt of Brazil, I think his name was. And

1:12:46

I, and Jay goes, these seats are, I go, oh

1:12:48

yeah, so which seats he goes, why? I go, that's

1:12:50

the family that Deontay is fighting. Jay's like, should be

1:12:53

a good fight. I go, I'm

1:12:55

like, dude, I'm telling you to see tears. But fuck out.

1:12:57

He's like, no, we'll be fine. Sure enough. He literally,

1:13:00

I think he killed him. And

1:13:02

the family's like, no. And

1:13:04

my brother's like, holy shit. I'm like, I tried to tell

1:13:06

you it's a fucking, when you're next to the family and

1:13:09

they lose, dude, there's nothing worse. That's like, did you have

1:13:11

your whole family at the, in your fights?

1:13:13

All fights. Yeah, my dad and brother

1:13:15

never missed a fight. Me too. I hated

1:13:17

it. It's like my boy watching it. I just, I

1:13:19

hate, I hate that shit. I

1:13:21

hate watching, like watching your friends fights. It's

1:13:23

like, just sucks. Sucks.

1:13:26

But not when they win, when they win, it's awesome. Yeah.

1:13:29

It's like, it's a tough night in the office. Yeah.

1:13:32

But you'll watch all the UFC's now?

1:13:34

Yeah. Stop it. That

1:13:36

whole area, like New Zealand, Australia, it's

1:13:38

popping, man. Yeah, it's always sick when the

1:13:41

crowd's always so rowdy. They're always yelling crazy

1:13:43

stuff out in the crowd. But yeah, ever

1:13:45

since then, I've just been like a massive

1:13:47

fan of it. I couldn't believe that. Do

1:13:49

you bet on it or

1:13:51

no? Yeah, here and there, just a little bit

1:13:53

on sports fair. Not much though. You're gonna take

1:13:55

it. Because Jess always bets, as soon as Jess

1:13:57

bets against me, I always lose. She

1:13:59

just goes, I just know I can look at him. She's

1:14:03

like the alpha male smell. She goes, yeah,

1:14:05

that guy's you know, and he could

1:14:07

protect my family better than the other

1:14:09

guy. But also you probably got into

1:14:11

it cause like Volkanovski dominated, Izzy dominating.

1:14:13

Whitaker's been dominating for a hot second.

1:14:15

Like there's all Australians man. It's always

1:14:17

popping. And I love

1:14:20

it. But I actually like the Apex

1:14:22

funds fights are sick cause there's not

1:14:24

so much crowd and you actually hear

1:14:26

like the corner work. And it's always really

1:14:28

interesting to me. You got an opinion

1:14:31

on Dupless. Izzy?

1:14:34

Yeah. I mean, I'm always, I'm gonna go star

1:14:36

better just cause he's

1:14:38

like, he's just into like the anime and

1:14:40

stuff and like, I just liked the way

1:14:42

he fights. So, but it's just like

1:14:44

strict. I was going for Izzy when he fought Strickland

1:14:46

and I was there. And I was like, what is

1:14:48

going on? But I think he always comes

1:14:51

back from a loss pretty good. That's

1:14:53

why I bet on Izzy. That's why I'd be betting on

1:14:55

Izzy. I'd almost guarantee Izzy wins this fight. Yeah. Come on.

1:14:57

Come on for a lot. He

1:14:59

said like when he lost to Strickland and you

1:15:01

know, I'm not taking anything away from Strickland. Izzy

1:15:03

had an off night, short nose fight. We didn't

1:15:06

realize how good Strickland was with his defense and

1:15:08

all that. Is he just had an off night? Yes. We

1:15:10

find out prior he had like a DUI. I was kind of

1:15:12

fucking around. He's probably drinking the Kool-Aid a little too much. So

1:15:15

he went through that lesson and now you can give them

1:15:18

Duplessis and they hate each other. Dude, I'll

1:15:20

take Izzy all day. But then it's like, Paulo

1:15:22

was like he Strickland did the same thing to Paulo

1:15:24

Costa. Just, Costa had nothing

1:15:26

for him really. The difference is like Paulo

1:15:28

Costa didn't fight his game and so it's

1:15:30

on the outside and he doesn't have the tools

1:15:32

to beat him. So that made no sense.

1:15:35

But is he a motivated Izzy? Yeah.

1:15:37

Come off a loss. Good fucking luck.

1:15:39

Good luck, man. Stylebender's

1:15:41

huge. I didn't, there's another thing with the UFCP.

1:15:43

I think they were like, oh, how much you

1:15:45

weigh. And I think I was like, I'd be

1:15:47

up against, like if I didn't cut way, I

1:15:49

was, I'd be fighting Stylebender. I'm like, are you

1:15:51

fucking kidding me? He's totally. You're fucking kidding me.

1:15:54

You're way 185, but you gotta remember he sucks

1:15:56

down. So by the time he steps in, he's

1:15:58

at least 205, 210. Right.

1:16:00

Yeah, I made me too hundo.

1:16:02

That's all tall thin. He's fucking

1:16:05

tall Imagine if it was white

1:16:07

classes in BMX. I mean heavy will have

1:16:09

people like cutting weight to just do towers

1:16:13

55 pounders are your size. Yeah the force Like

1:16:17

85 know 50 50 fibers. Yeah, there's no 45 Yeah,

1:16:23

there are some yeah there are I

1:16:26

Know there might be one or two but there are a

1:16:29

lot of professionals 55 is walking

1:16:31

55ers some well Dustin Poirier

1:16:34

100% walks away 85 100% yeah, and so

1:16:36

does sodas is long of us. Yeah, and such

1:16:38

gate. She's big I saw gate show was like

1:16:40

what the fuck 55 85 to 55 is

1:16:42

not uncommon You

1:16:45

know, yeah, you're out of camp

1:16:47

I mean is out of camp like so so

1:16:49

so could be could be trying to get down

1:16:51

to 55 He was walking

1:16:53

around 190. So yeah, he's a

1:16:56

big nightmare. Yeah, I got a question about

1:16:58

fighters Yeah, you know when people think about

1:17:00

fighters sometimes they think of like an aggressive

1:17:02

dude at the bar Is there anyone that's

1:17:04

actually like oh like an aggressive dude that's

1:17:06

up in the top level Strickland Yeah, he

1:17:08

shook. That's the one guy that Again,

1:17:11

you know in a fight in a street fight or whatever

1:17:14

He's the one guy when you think of like

1:17:16

the way fighters are yeah kind of shows that

1:17:18

most of them aren't like that Yeah, most of

1:17:21

them aren't because they can't really get

1:17:23

in a fight outside the UFC They can but

1:17:25

I also tell you like it's like you're gonna

1:17:27

has a lot of demons man Yeah, I'm all

1:17:29

fucked up. So he has like all these insecurities,

1:17:31

which is what makes them great But

1:17:34

then most fighters are like there the egos not

1:17:36

there. We don't need to be the tough sky

1:17:38

in the bar We know it. Yeah, so they're

1:17:40

not like like, you know, you'd never see him

1:17:42

They're usually just chillin in the corner. Yeah, the

1:17:44

ship pops off. Good luck, man No,

1:17:47

so it's always the calm guy but yeah

1:17:49

Strickland's getting that one guy where it's like

1:17:52

Yeah, but I love him.

1:17:54

He's great. Yep, but most guys are

1:17:56

chill man. Yeah Yeah, that's who you

1:17:58

should be worried about the quiet sky

1:18:00

in the bars not making all the

1:18:02

noise Yeah, I'm just a lot of

1:18:04

skies the least toughest guy every father

1:18:06

I've ever met is like being super

1:18:08

nice to me and everyone's Like so

1:18:10

welcoming and also around Robert Whitaker. Yeah

1:18:13

first team all nice Robert Whitaker is

1:18:15

the nicest fucking Yeah, family guy thing.

1:18:17

Yes, five fucking kids does Izzy great

1:18:19

guy. Yeah Alex Volkonov ski couldn't be

1:18:21

Yeah, yeah tied to a Vasa. Yeah,

1:18:23

I shouldn't Pedro like all those Mark

1:18:25

hunt Yeah, all of them are like

1:18:27

the nice fucking people in the world

1:18:29

and absolute fucking savages all of them

1:18:31

savages But they're all

1:18:33

the nicest fucking guys. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they

1:18:35

say that they saved the aggression for When

1:18:38

they can get it. I have nothing to prove. They also

1:18:40

have nothing to play. What you know Yeah,

1:18:44

what do you got James? All right, actually, how

1:18:46

are you with time? Right? You good? Oh good

1:18:48

night I've got nothing to do today. We're chilling.

1:18:50

Perfect. Yeah I think we

1:18:52

should start talking about the biggest thing, right? Connor

1:18:55

UFC is postponed but everyone

1:18:57

has their opinion on it.

1:18:59

What's your thought on that? I

1:19:02

think there are things going on So

1:19:05

uncle jail thought he was

1:19:07

going to rehab. I heard jail pulled back on

1:19:09

that. Oh, he did pull back Okay, so then

1:19:11

you got like Raphael over here saying something we

1:19:14

have Makachev saying, you know,

1:19:16

you don't need a pinky toe for a

1:19:18

fight chicken. We have Illya

1:19:20

coming through saying you're mentally broken. That is

1:19:22

your biggest lesson. You doubt yourself your abilities

1:19:25

your preparation That's why you don't show up.

1:19:27

You're a Me everybody wants

1:19:29

a piece of Connor, you know the Bayonetta cool when

1:19:31

he was it was a bayonetta. We did that speech

1:19:34

It's PFL PFL. Sorry. Yeah. He looked Jack. He

1:19:36

looked he looked like she was in shape Yeah,

1:19:39

so here's a thing with this is in

1:19:41

Rogan nailed on the head, but So

1:19:44

there's gonna be a bunch of conspiracies and all

1:19:46

this stuff. That's so much more interesting than the

1:19:48

truth Yeah, like and it's same with conspiracies whatever

1:19:50

it is Like if you say the world's round

1:19:53

and was like that's not fun flat

1:19:55

so far. Yeah, we're 9-11 so far dude

1:19:58

MK ultra this is so fun with Connor.

1:20:01

It's like, here's the, here's the narrative. Here's

1:20:03

the story. He was preparing

1:20:05

for the fight. He didn't have

1:20:07

the proper equipment on. He kicked and he knows

1:20:09

better. He kicked, broke his toe, right?

1:20:12

And it's on the same leg that he damaged. It's a

1:20:14

real, it's a, it's a complete break. Yeah.

1:20:16

Yeah. But I fought with a broken pinky. I

1:20:18

would say Alex Pierre is fighting this weekend with

1:20:20

two broken toes. People do it all the fucking

1:20:22

time, right? And there's nothing you can do. You

1:20:24

just tape it to the other one. You move

1:20:26

on. But for Connie, I

1:20:28

realized where he's at, it's like he loses one.

1:20:30

It's fucking over. He's fought hurt before he fought

1:20:32

with a blown out knee against Mendez and still

1:20:34

fucking knocked him out. Yeah. Even getting taken down

1:20:37

in the first round, losing the first round. So

1:20:39

we know he can do that with Connor.

1:20:42

If like, he can't have any injuries, like

1:20:44

he needs to be able to move because

1:20:46

you lose this one, the ride's over. It's

1:20:48

completely over. Yeah. So I think for him

1:20:50

and his team, it's like,

1:20:52

could you fight? Yeah. You're maybe

1:20:54

80% your movements fucking awful. And

1:20:56

just to help with this narrative, you

1:20:59

know, the reason why the news came out so

1:21:01

late, they put lidocaine in this, in that broken

1:21:03

toe and just to have them move around. So

1:21:06

they waited three to four days to see how

1:21:08

he moved. Yeah. And he was like, it's still,

1:21:10

it's the exact same. And that's when they pulled

1:21:12

it. But the narrative of, you know,

1:21:14

he's doing illegal shit in Dublin or he

1:21:16

needs to go to rehab. That's fun, dude.

1:21:19

That's all that's out there. Of course it's

1:21:21

out there. None of it's

1:21:23

true. None of it's true. So it's not. And

1:21:26

then how long, it's not that long. Like he, he

1:21:28

might need ages. Like they just postpone. And I feel

1:21:30

like maybe 10% of people are going to be like,

1:21:32

I'm not going to watch that now. This is so

1:21:34

annoying. Not even 10% yeah. Not even 50, but then

1:21:36

now everyone talking about this.

1:21:39

Oh, it's even more high. It's going to be even

1:21:41

bigger. It's going to be even crazy. Again, if this

1:21:43

was gone or seven years ago, he takes this fight.

1:21:46

We don't hear about it. Really? No, we don't fucking

1:21:48

do fighters fight all the time with broken toes. It

1:21:50

fucking fights. Yeah. But it says this is the big

1:21:52

hurrah. He loses one of the fucking rides over. I

1:21:55

think his team was like, buddy, even at 80%, like

1:21:58

challenge a tough fucking fight. We need. the

1:22:00

movement, just postpone it. Yeah. Like

1:22:02

it's not like he's in this title hunt. Yeah. It's

1:22:05

not like you need to rush him back. But

1:22:07

it does feel like a broken

1:22:09

toe, even if it's your pinky toe,

1:22:11

it is a real injury. That's a bitch. It's a bitch.

1:22:14

I mean, training all the time, you know, but a complete

1:22:16

break, it looks like it's complete break. Yeah, it's not like

1:22:18

just a purple toe. No, it looks like it's a- It's

1:22:20

not like a- It's not like a hairline fracture. No, if

1:22:22

you look at the actual weight, it's a clean break. That's-

1:22:26

Literally, he was still down. He's like, all right,

1:22:28

just- Just like any fighter. See that? That's

1:22:30

a clean break. Yeah, that's gonna stop. Yeah, just like any

1:22:33

fighter, they're like, all right, let's work through this. And they

1:22:35

just tape it. Like, if you see fighters with tape, it's

1:22:37

because they broke the toe. Got it. It happens all the

1:22:39

fucking time. I just think with him, they tried the Lidacain.

1:22:41

He's like, dude, I still can't move at 100. And

1:22:44

his team was like, mm, just post it. Just

1:22:46

postpone it. It's not the end of the world. How long will it take

1:22:48

to heal that, do you think? Do you know? I

1:22:52

mean, that's tough. Is it six weeks? Like, about

1:22:54

a split free shot a day. You have to

1:22:56

set it. Six to eight weeks. He

1:22:59

should be all right with that. And again, you

1:23:01

tape it to the other one so it doesn't like

1:23:04

heal outward. So you tape it to the other

1:23:06

one. I broke it by four toes. And you

1:23:08

go to the doctor, they just tape it to

1:23:10

the other one. You wear sandals for a fucking

1:23:12

six weeks. So I would bet

1:23:14

he fights in like October, November. If you wanna

1:23:16

be super safe, you do in December. You know,

1:23:18

hopefully nothing happens again. But again, all

1:23:20

these narratives, they're so much more fun than the

1:23:23

truth. The truth is boring. It's not fun. Even

1:23:26

Chael dialed back on that, you

1:23:28

know? I

1:23:30

mean, yeah, that looks like a tough

1:23:33

break. If I'm

1:23:35

Conno, I didn't post that. I

1:23:37

go, yeah, I fucked up my leg training. The same

1:23:39

leg that I broke, I'm a postponement. I

1:23:42

think posting the book is pinky. It's because it's a

1:23:44

car. Yeah, people are like, ugh. But these people are

1:23:46

like, ugh, I've never fought in their

1:23:48

life. Yeah, but also, and then fighters who have fought

1:23:50

with it before are like, what the fuck? I

1:23:53

think you should have just been super vague. Yep,

1:23:55

fucked my leg up in training. Could

1:23:57

I fight? Maybe, I don't wanna push it. We're

1:23:59

fighting November. I want, he

1:24:01

didn't owe anybody anything. I'm gonna post this. Fuck

1:24:04

off. I wouldn't have done any

1:24:06

of that. You don't know anybody anything. It's

1:24:08

Conor McGregor. Yeah. But

1:24:11

I think Dana's sick of his shit. If

1:24:13

you know Dana's like, they asked him the

1:24:15

post fight press conference, like when's his fight? He's like,

1:24:17

I don't know. September, October, I don't fucking know. When

1:24:19

he's ready, we'll let you know. He's just

1:24:21

over it. That's how it goes. Even

1:24:23

with homicide, he's like, ah, whatever. If you

1:24:25

keep missing and then you'll see putting all this

1:24:28

marketing money into it, eventually Dana's like, all right,

1:24:30

moving on. So you think they'll postpone this too.

1:24:32

Do they have a date on this? No. Kind

1:24:35

of because we don't know, like with the toe with

1:24:37

his movement. I bet we'll get an announcement like a

1:24:39

month, month and a half. Let

1:24:43

summer chill out. I'm

1:24:45

excited. Still a great card though. No Conor, but

1:24:47

still a great card. It's epic card. I

1:24:50

love for a prayer of reaction. He's just

1:24:52

on the phone. He's like, charmer, no charmer.

1:24:55

He's just ready to go. He's so scared.

1:24:58

At the UFC 300, that was just his walk-ins just

1:25:00

the best. I was like, no, like I feel like

1:25:02

what's one of the best walk-ins when he's like, he's

1:25:04

like. Yeah. It's like he's

1:25:06

made of stone. His face, everything

1:25:08

was hard. He would be

1:25:10

like the leader of like a tribe back in

1:25:12

the day. Like just ready to. Yeah, everybody's a

1:25:14

bitch. Everybody's a bitch. He's like the leader. Yeah.

1:25:17

He's got like, and also to be that heavy,

1:25:19

but that with so little fat, like just giant

1:25:21

guy. Yeah. He has to be the scariest

1:25:24

guy in the UFC. Probably. Probably Francis is him. Do you

1:25:26

think you'll actually go to heavyweight? Does

1:25:28

he beat Francis if he goes to heavyweight? Do you

1:25:30

think? Different story in France in the UFC. So,

1:25:33

but with this, I think

1:25:35

his reward for again, replacing and saving it, because

1:25:37

remember he saved 300 300 was

1:25:40

a nightmare. They called him up. He's down

1:25:42

short notice saves this international fight week. For

1:25:45

those of you, this is massive. The UFC is for him

1:25:47

taking those two weeks is massive. So he's helping out again. I

1:25:50

think they're going to repay him by letting

1:25:52

him be the first ever fighter to attempt

1:25:54

to go for three belts. I

1:25:56

think they're giving this thing. To fight the winner of

1:25:58

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1:31:04

check in with little Ryan Garcia this

1:31:06

week, guys. So you know you went on stage with Chris?

1:31:09

Yeah, we're going to get to that. So first

1:31:11

he announced he was retiring, but then

1:31:13

it came out that he only said that because

1:31:16

he's going to be banned for a year for

1:31:18

testing positive for PEDs. Then

1:31:20

he ended up saying he'd like to go into

1:31:22

UFC and even potentially said he'd like to fight

1:31:25

sugar. And most recently,

1:31:27

Chris D'Elia brought him up on stage and we

1:31:29

have the clip. You know what bothers me? He

1:31:31

tagged Ryan twice, Chris. At King

1:31:33

Ryan, at King Ryan. We got it. He said he's

1:31:35

going to write X Games too this weekend. Yeah,

1:31:37

he's going to be at the X

1:31:40

Games. Oh man,

1:31:42

taking out Ryan Williams. We

1:31:44

wanted you to stand up for the first time

1:31:46

ever he's never done stand up before in his

1:31:49

life, okay? And this is a world

1:31:51

famous person here. Welcome.

1:31:53

World famous person in here. So

1:31:58

he had jokes where to go. But he forgot oh

1:32:02

stand up stuff stand up is not easy. She

1:32:05

just brought some notes I don't

1:32:07

have kids different animal He's

1:32:10

probably nervous super nervous and he's in

1:32:12

shorts. Yeah, right. Holy shit

1:32:14

double denim is that double denim tough

1:32:24

Chris trying to help them out It's

1:32:31

tough They

1:33:00

said that maybe I can get to

1:33:02

meet Chris

1:33:10

is wearing college should never seen him caution in my life. You look

1:33:12

ready I Help

1:33:28

them with the point Okay,

1:33:36

I have a question you can stop it I'm gonna

1:33:38

say good retention on the video like you wait no

1:33:40

time for it It's gonna get a lot of you

1:33:42

just forgot to stop the first advice to give him

1:33:44

be sober Well,

1:33:46

I want to ask you to over. Yeah, you gotta know

1:33:48

your shit Yeah, what do you do? Like I'm sure you

1:33:50

guys perform places where people show up and go like oh

1:33:53

I just want to come up there and do a spot.

1:33:55

What do you say? Like what position like everything else in

1:33:57

life? Like everything else like I said to you. I want

1:33:59

to be a piano player and I

1:34:01

was a really good piano player or I want to be, I

1:34:03

want to get into, hey, I want to get into X games.

1:34:06

And I would say I was 20. You look at me and go, cool.

1:34:10

I'll see you and I'll see you out there,

1:34:12

but I can't help you. You got to do that

1:34:14

1000 times. It's like

1:34:16

anything else. Like you gotta, if you really want to

1:34:18

be good at stand up, I'm not going

1:34:20

to talk to you for at least five years. But

1:34:23

do you let him go on your set? No, it's a

1:34:25

weird question because Ryan Garcia is not pursuing stand up. Ryan

1:34:28

Garcia is one of the most famous people on the planet

1:34:30

right now. And it's a funny thing. So

1:34:32

it's not like Chris is like, yeah, I guess you

1:34:34

can have stage time because you're going to be doing

1:34:36

this in the next 10 years. No, it's like, it's

1:34:38

funny. It's funny. It's a silly thing. Yeah, that's all

1:34:40

it is. It'll get views. You know, I'm sure Ryan

1:34:42

just wanted to, you know, he's fucking around. He's a

1:34:44

good guy. He wanted, he's silly. He wanted to try

1:34:46

it out. But Chris couldn't say no, right? No,

1:34:49

he could say no. He, he said

1:34:51

that was my real question. Like, could you be

1:34:53

like, I don't want to go. Oh yeah. I

1:34:55

bet. Like if you were there to, there's a

1:34:57

silver be funny. You're in the mood to laugh.

1:34:59

Like it's still a good, and I guarantee you

1:35:01

when Ryan got off, Chris destroyed that room. So

1:35:03

it's not like it was a bad show and

1:35:05

Ryan's up there for an hour. I'm how this

1:35:07

video is maybe six minutes. I was six minutes.

1:35:09

It's fun for the crowd. He's probably like give

1:35:11

Ryan a hand. He never goes on stage again.

1:35:13

Like that was a fun thing. That's it. He

1:35:16

did it with the perfect person. It also depends on

1:35:18

that person too. Like he was really good at telling

1:35:20

stories. Brendan could tell a long story, you know, that's

1:35:22

why what happened was Rogan goes, that guy's funny. And

1:35:24

I was like, yeah, I know dude. I don't hang out with him because

1:35:27

of his big muscles. I mean, I do, but I don't. I'm

1:35:29

half gay, but still I don't. And I was like,

1:35:32

I did. We hang he's funny. And then that's

1:35:34

when, when we would do those live shows, we'd have like

1:35:36

1200 people out there and I

1:35:38

would always pretend to be late and he would go out

1:35:40

and I'd be like, just tell a story. Yeah. Just fucking

1:35:43

start telling a story. And that was, that was standup. Like

1:35:45

he was telling stories, but he was a good storyteller. Yeah.

1:35:47

And it was what he wanted to do. And he had

1:35:49

always been doing it for a long time with people in

1:35:51

a bar. If you have that

1:35:53

already, then we can talk, but I bet you he could

1:35:55

do it. He could go around and get us. So he

1:35:57

could do a good job because he have stories and he.

1:52:00

involved in it, it's like, what are you doing?

1:52:02

You know what though, at the end of the

1:52:04

day, I always say though, they've still made it

1:52:06

work. Like Jada Pinkett Smith, say everybody where you

1:52:08

want, and Will Smith's still together, still doing it.

1:52:10

That's a big accomplishment. Oh, I disagree. Really? I

1:52:13

think it's an absolute fucking firestorm in their house

1:52:15

and they're miserable. Yeah, maybe, but they're still together.

1:52:17

They're still making it work. They're still loving it.

1:52:20

No, to the public, they're still together. Man,

1:52:22

I don't know. They're still not divorced.

1:52:24

Yeah. Right? I guess that's

1:52:27

a win. It is. See, I don't think it's

1:52:29

a win being miserable. I agree

1:52:31

with you on her. I don't think it's a

1:52:33

win when you stay with someone and

1:52:36

you're miserable and you're not divorced. Like it'd be

1:52:38

a better win if they just went their separate

1:52:40

fucking ways. Like if

1:52:42

you're in a marriage where your wife goes,

1:52:44

hey, I'm gonna start fucking this young guy

1:52:46

and bring him on our family vacations, it's

1:52:49

over. See ya. So, but

1:52:51

when you say, but when you say at least they're still

1:52:53

together. Yeah. That's insane. Yeah, that's

1:52:55

fertile. Yeah, but I'm saying that whatever the case

1:52:58

is, they could go off and they have plenty

1:53:00

of money, they have plenty of options, but they're

1:53:02

together still. So something's there. They're

1:53:04

still glue there. What do you think? Why

1:53:06

are you doing that? Cause you know something? I don't

1:53:08

know. I think it's insane. Yeah. Well,

1:53:11

I would hide this. Like even

1:53:14

for them, like it ruined his fucking life.

1:53:16

Like even before he slapped Chris Rock, like

1:53:18

he was the butt of every single joke

1:53:20

for being a cop. Well, listen, you're right.

1:53:22

Because she's airing their fucking life out on-

1:53:25

Cause she has great respect for him. So

1:53:27

imagine that's on camera. Hey you, see ya.

1:53:29

Yeah, but be famous that's on camera. That's

1:53:32

true. So you think when

1:53:34

the camera's dead, you think she had super friendly

1:53:36

and she's making them dinner. How about Ben Affleck

1:53:38

with Jennifer Lopez walking? You see how big he's

1:53:40

just walking? Like he looks like

1:53:42

he's been, he literally looks like- He

1:53:44

went through training camp. Yes. Yeah, like

1:53:46

they- Or he just went through fight camp. Like, you know, no, in Game

1:53:49

of Thrones when he walks through that thing and like for shame and they're

1:53:51

throwing shit at him and stuff like that, that's what he looked like. He

1:53:53

just came out of that and he's just like- He's

1:53:56

exhausted. Some people are breaking.

1:53:59

That's it.