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best mom her daughter could have ever wished for. A
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family friend had a house
10:05
in Brightsville that he just flipped and
10:07
it was a perfect opportunity. It was
10:09
so pretty. First time house, two bedroom
10:11
house, really nicely done. But almost
10:13
as soon as the family had moved into their
10:15
new home, Samantha and Marcus broke up. They
10:18
continued co-parenting their daughter, wanting to
10:20
minimize the disruption for her as
10:22
much as possible. Fast forward several
10:25
months, and by the spring of
10:27
2015, Samantha was really excited for
10:29
what lied ahead. She
10:31
was going back to school, about to
10:33
take final classes for her phlebotomy course,
10:36
which she deferred while she was raising
10:38
her daughter immediately after giving birth, wanting
10:40
to provide for her daughter best she could. She'd
10:43
also started dating a new guy whom we're
10:45
going to be calling Jason for the purpose
10:47
of this episode. And by all
10:50
accounts, things were going really well. At
10:52
the same time, Samantha was also working.
10:54
She got a job through Angelica at
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an assisted living facility. Angelica
10:58
also happened to work for the same company
11:00
at a different location. So both of
11:02
the sisters kind of knew everyone. Samantha
11:05
loved her job. She loved listening to the residents
11:07
stories, and she loved being able to care for
11:09
them. Then one
11:11
afternoon in mid April, Angelica was chilling out
11:13
at home with her family when she
11:15
got a call from her and Samantha's workplace.
11:19
Her sister hadn't turned up for her shift. My
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phone starts going off around three o'clock-ish,
11:25
and I was like, what do you guys
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want? And she's
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like, your sister didn't show up for work today, have you heard from
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her? And I was like, no, but she
11:33
should have been there. Let me call her. She's like,
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well, her phone goes straight to voicemail. And I'm like,
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okay, let me call her mom because I was super
11:40
close with her mom as well. This
11:42
was very out of character for Samantha. She
11:44
was always reliable. And if she couldn't make
11:46
it for some reason, then she'd have called.
11:49
Angelica also knew that Samantha wouldn't place her
11:51
in a difficult situation by just not turning
11:54
up. But Samantha's mom hadn't heard
11:56
from her either. So it's not a good sign.
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I call her. I called her mom and asked
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if she heard from her and she said no,
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she'll call around to see if she heard from
12:04
her. And I was like, okay.
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I didn't think anything of it. Angelica
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wasn't necessarily panning at this point,
12:11
more so just confused. She
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then reached out to Samantha's new boyfriend Jason via
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Facebook to see if he knew anything about where
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she could be. I went
12:20
through Facebook, messaged him because I didn't have his
12:22
number. I said, hey, if my sister's with you,
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I don't know if you guys went out. Like,
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what if they just went out and she like,
12:29
overslept is what I was thinking. So then I
12:31
ended up sending him a message, asked
12:33
him to call me. Well, he calls me right away. And
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he's like, hey, I'm actually on my way to
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your mom's. Like, he was kind of panicking. He's
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like, she didn't show up from work. I was like, yeah, I just got a call
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from her work. One of the girls knew him,
12:45
so they called him. And then he's
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like, I just don't know what to do. I keep
12:49
calling everybody. They were just all thinking that maybe they
12:51
just had an argument. She just didn't want to talk
12:54
right now. But nobody like heard from
12:56
her. When Angelica realized Jason
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was so concerned that he was driving
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over to Samantha's mom's house, she felt
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panic rising in her chest. So
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then I called my stepmom back and I said, I'm
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panicking. So we're just going
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to come to your house and come up with a
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game plan. Well, she's like, OK, so then now I'm
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getting her panic. So then I left my house. I
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lost reception at one point and
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he calls me right when I got reception.
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Said he found my sister's car. So
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it appeared that Samantha wasn't answering
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anybody's calls. And now Jason
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had found her car. But where was it?
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And where was Samantha? She
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didn't have her daughter with her that weekend
13:36
either. So was her baby girl safe? Like,
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what is going on? To answer
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these questions, you know the drill. We've got to
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go back. We
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mentioned that around the time Samantha graduated
13:51
high school, she started dating a young
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man named Marcus Bordelon. Someone
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else Samantha had always been close to was a
13:57
family friend on her dad's side. Her name was
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Kate. who is our second first
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degree for today. And Kate
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later went on to become Samantha's sister-in-law after
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marrying Samantha's brother, Jordan, way
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down the line. Kate and Samantha used
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to love hanging out together and playing the Sims.
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But once Samantha started dating Marcus, who
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was three years ahead of Kate at the
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same school, Samantha started isolating herself from those
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she was closest to. I
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actually grew up with Sam
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from their dad's side.
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Me and Sam, we were
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always close. When we
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got older, we didn't really see each other
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as much. But it was basically
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when she got with Marcus, that's
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when our relationship went downhill and
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she just cut me off. The
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last memory I have of
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her was the one time
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she picked me up to go to,
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it was BAM at the time,
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where you could get books and
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coffee and you could
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sit there and use the internet. And
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we actually played The Sims. She
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was a Sims lover and I am too.
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So that is my last memory of her.
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We know that Samantha and Marcus went on to have their daughter and buy a
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house together. The
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couple was really young. These are
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a lot of adult responsibilities. But
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at the time it seemed they were both really committed
15:23
to providing security for their family. Here's
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Angelica again. Samantha wanted to
15:28
give her daughter the life that none
15:30
of us were ever giving. The mom and dad
15:32
both living under the household. As
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the relationship continued, Samantha wasn't in touch as much with
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her loved ones as she had
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been before she started dating Marcus. In
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a way, it kind of made sense given they
15:44
had a new relationship and they were also starting
15:46
a family. All of this
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can really monopolize our time. She
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did get pregnant early on in their relationship. When
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that happened, stuff started to
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turn. Samantha started not coming
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around. she was very
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involved with everybody and wanted always to
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be everywhere. She did start to seclude
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herself and working more or
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like doing stuff with him and it
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was fine. But
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it wasn't long before things started to
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deteriorate. Marcus was controlling and
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possessive and Samantha's family became concerned
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for her safety, especially when
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police were called to the home on multiple
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occasions. He definitely didn't
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like when she needed something me
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and her brother were there or
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like our family was there. The
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family would express their concerns
16:35
to Samantha. They wouldn't voice unto him
16:37
because they didn't want to make things
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worse for Samantha because they bought
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a house together and they were trying to
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make a life. Samantha's
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family eventually grew so concerned they urged
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her to leave Marcus. So
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only a month after Samantha had moved into the
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home in December of 2014, she
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ended the relationship and moved out, taking
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her daughter with her and moving in with an
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aunt. She handled it. She did
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her thing, got herself out, got the child out and
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then she did not
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tell me until at least
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a week or two after she moved out of
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his house that he actually was
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very abusive to her. He choked her to the
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point where she almost passed out. She didn't tell
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me that because she knew that I
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probably would do something that I
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would later regret. Samantha moved on
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with her life and started dating
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Jason, but Marcus did not move
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on and he took things to a more
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chilling level. On January 22nd,
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2015, he followed
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Samantha to a local bowling alley where she'd
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gone to watch Jason play in a league.
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Marcus slashed the tires on Samantha's
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Dodge Neon, resulting in him being
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arrested for criminal mischief involving an
17:45
automobile. A week later, he was
17:48
then reported for following Samantha. For
17:51
both of these citations, Marcus pleaded guilty
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and just paid a fine, but there
17:55
were no other consequences. However,
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Samantha was terrified. She
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tried applying for a Protection from Abuse
18:02
Order, or a PFA, but
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because there was no recent direct evidence of
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Marcus physically harming her, even
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though Marcus had been physically abusive in
18:11
the past, Samantha's request was denied by
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police. And this is one
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of the major problems in applying for such orders.
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By the time there's physical harm, it's too late.
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It's actually very hard
18:24
to get a PFA if you don't go
18:26
right away with evidence of them harming you
18:28
and putting you at harm. And Samantha didn't
18:31
go right away. She was thinking, if
18:33
I left him from Trokeny and
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nothing else happens, like, I'm fine, we can
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co-parent. But then all this
18:40
other stuff, it was kind of too
18:42
late because you only had the one
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slicing of the tires and it's not
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harm done to her. It's just her
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stuff. They didn't see it, that it
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was enough to put a PFA on
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him. The reality of
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all of this is infuriating and terrifying
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for victims. Because we know that
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this is how abusers and stalkers operate. They
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start with behavior like tire slashing
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and following people, and it always
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escalates. Incidents don't need to be
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physical to be abusive. And then
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the law enforcement and the law doesn't
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take women's concerns seriously. They
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don't recognize the dynamics of intimate
19:15
partner violence and stalking, or work
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from a trauma-informed perspective that protects
19:20
women. You often hear police
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arguing that if they granted protection orders to everyone
19:24
who wanted one, then they wouldn't be worth the
19:26
paper they're printed on. And it would make a
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mockery of the system, which I guess sort of
19:31
makes sense, but does it? Jeez.
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You know, but the responsibility of
19:36
senior law enforcement is
19:38
to invest in better training. So officers dealing
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with this stuff every day can respond appropriately
19:42
and recognize the signs of something that is
19:44
likely to escalate. So they can do everything
19:46
in their power to shut it down. Despite
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Marcus' disturbing behavior towards Samantha, she reluctantly
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acknowledged that it was important for her
19:53
daughter to have a relationship with her
19:56
dad. So she let her see him
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here and there, wanting to do the right thing. thing by
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her daughter. So on the
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afternoon Angelica received the call saying Samantha
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hadn't shown up to work she was
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perplexed after multiple failed attempts
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to trace Samantha. We know Jason had found
20:11
her Dodge neon on his way to her
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mom's house and he called
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Angelica to tell her what was going on. It's
20:18
like it's off the carport of rightsville and 30 and
20:20
I said there you know just call mom
20:22
and tell her to meet me there. So I
20:25
called missy and I like can you just meet us there and we'll go
20:27
from there. So we got there. And
20:30
it was definitely her car. So
20:32
missy got on the phone with a
20:34
cousin who's a state trooper just to see
20:36
like what we can do maybe she got
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pulled over like why is her car just
20:41
sitting here. So luckily Angelica
20:43
had an idea of who might know where
20:46
Samantha was. Samantha and Marcus's daughter
20:48
had stayed with her dad the night before and
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he called Samantha asking her to come over because
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he said something was wrong with her daughter. It
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just didn't look right to me like something told
20:58
me it wasn't right and I said I'm going
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to go to Marcus's
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house and see if
21:05
she's there why would she feel the need to
21:07
hide her car appears to nobody sees it. He
21:10
asked if he could have for
21:12
the first time overnight in a while. And
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As far as prosecutors were concerned, while
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Marcus was without a doubt a manipulative
38:05
person, Natasha chose to
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participate in planning Samantha's slaying. There
38:10
was no denying that even though Natasha
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wasn't there for the physical act of
38:15
hurting Samantha, her text indicated that she
38:17
very much wanted to be there and
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she confessed to conspiring with Marcus to do
38:22
all of this. Natasha's defense
38:24
planned on arguing that she'd been suffering
38:27
from trauma in the form of battered
38:29
spouse syndrome, given Marcus was emotionally abusive
38:31
and took advantage of Natasha being vulnerable
38:33
and impressionable. Prosecutors didn't
38:35
buy it, putting Natasha's involvement
38:38
down to willingness, selfishness, and
38:40
immaturity. The co-acuse were held
38:42
without bail while awaiting preliminary
38:44
hearings. In late August,
38:46
Marcus pleaded not guilty, but given
38:49
the felony kidnapping charge against him
38:51
was an aggravating factor, as
38:53
was the fact that Samantha had been essentially
38:55
tortured. He was facing the death
38:57
penalty. So it's pretty
38:59
clear that Marcus did this because he
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was an abusive, controlling, insecure piece of
39:04
garbage who refused to focus on moving
39:06
on with his life and instead chose
39:08
to focus on externalizing and projecting his
39:10
anger. So many people in
39:12
the heat of the moment said something like, oh
39:14
we want to kill somebody, but it's a figure
39:16
of speech, nobody acts on it. And
39:19
how could there have been nothing stopping Marcus
39:21
from stabbing Samantha at least 50 times? So
39:24
we know that there was no love loss between
39:26
Natasha and Samantha because Natasha had it in for
39:28
someone who had never done anything to hurt her.
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And it was clear she was jealous of Marcus
39:33
and Samantha's relationship. When she found
39:35
out that Samantha was pregnant she made
39:37
some threats on Samantha to make her
39:39
to lose the child. My sister
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called me crying, she said she came across the
39:43
message while Marcus was sleeping that Natasha said if
39:45
I see her I'm gonna push her down the
39:47
stairs and make sure she loses this catch. But
39:50
planning something like this over such a long
39:53
period, when it pertains to three people and
39:55
not just one, is wild
39:57
when you consider how young Natasha was. And
40:00
even though Marcus and Samantha had well
40:02
and truly finished high school by the time all
40:04
of this was going on, things
40:06
had actually come to a head at prom in
40:08
2014. Marcus
40:11
still hung out with kids, even though he was
40:13
over 20. He still hung out with
40:15
kids that were high schoolers. So
40:18
he was around very young people that he
40:20
would consider his best friends and stuff. His
40:22
friends really attached to Samantha, but at the
40:24
end of the day, they were his friends.
40:27
One guy took Samantha as a date, and
40:29
then one of the people took Marcus as
40:32
a date to go to prom, and Natasha
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went after my sister there,
40:37
and my sister ended up getting an
40:39
altercation with Natasha. Natasha
40:41
was so intent on being with Marcus, no matter
40:43
what, that she even asked Samantha if she could
40:46
move in with them so they could all raise
40:48
their daughter together. This is
40:50
because Natasha knew that Marcus would never leave the
40:52
mother of his child. But needless
40:54
to say, Samantha thought that this was very
40:56
bizarre and was not going to be sharing
40:58
her home or her boyfriend with anybody else.
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I think whatever happened in her
41:03
life made her so obsessed with
41:05
Marcus, and maybe he did pull
41:07
that young love thing with her
41:10
at the beginning. But because
41:12
of Samantha actually producing
41:14
his first child, and him actually
41:17
leaving her for Samantha and starting this family,
41:19
and then holding on to her and playing
41:21
these emotions because realistically, as
41:23
much as I want to pinpoint him as an
41:26
innocent thing, he wasn't innocent in this
41:28
at all. But I think she
41:30
was so obsessed with him and then obsessed with
41:33
Samantha because she was the only girl that actually
41:35
was able to pull Marcus
41:37
from her, and she didn't like that too
41:39
much. Natasha even
41:41
wanted to come visit Samantha and Marcus's daughter
41:43
in the hospital after she was born, which
41:46
rightfully scared Samantha so much she had
41:48
to put Natasha on a no-visit list
41:51
with the hospital. is
42:00
escorted off because she's not allowed around this
42:02
kid. The accused couple
42:05
was said to be tried separately when in December
42:07
of 2016, 23-year-old
42:09
Marcus pleaded guilty. He
42:11
avoided the death penalty, but was now looking at
42:14
life in prison without parole, which in February of
42:16
17, he got. He
42:18
was also sentenced to a concurrent 10 to 20 years for
42:21
conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice and
42:23
six to 12 months for abuse of
42:25
a corpse. Marcus told
42:27
Samantha's family that he refused to seek therapy
42:29
after the end of the relationship for fear
42:31
of what others would think. And
42:34
while he apologized for what he called,
42:36
quote, selfish choices, he couldn't
42:38
explain why he did this. A
42:41
week after Marcus was sentenced, Natasha also
42:43
pleaded guilty to criminal conspiracy to commit
42:45
first degree murder, obstructing the
42:47
administration of law and criminal conspiracy
42:49
to obstruct the administration of law.
42:52
She was facing a maximum sentence of 22 to 44 years in
42:54
prison. On
42:57
April 27th, 2017, she
42:59
was sentenced to 12 and a half to 25 years with
43:02
12 months probation to run consecutively. As
43:05
much of a relief as it was for
43:07
Samantha's family to not have to sit through
43:09
two trials, the sentencing were
43:12
painful enough. And above all,
43:14
the biggest tragedy in all of this is
43:16
that Samantha's daughter now doesn't have either a
43:18
mom or a dad. Now
43:20
splitting her time between three houses,
43:23
Samantha's mom and dad and Marcus's mom.
43:26
Natasha appealed her sentence, but it was affirmed in April
43:28
of 2018. While
43:30
Marcus will likely die in prison, Natasha will
43:32
become eligible for parole around 2028, which
43:35
is only a few years away. However,
43:38
Angelica hopes that she stays inside as
43:40
long as possible. She
43:42
should stay in there so she can't bear
43:44
any children and reinvent herself. Cause
43:46
I do feel like some people do reinvent
43:49
themselves when they do something horrible,
43:51
but with the DA talking the way
43:53
that they talked and the evidence that
43:55
was released, you can't reinvent yourself. And
43:57
why do you get to live on
43:59
when she...
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