0:00

on this episode, we discuss the

0:02

exorcist colon believer, love

0:05

it or leave it. You gotta believe it. We

0:07

will watch the next is this movie. Bye. Hey

0:35

everyone. Welcome to the flop house. I'm Dan

0:37

McCoy. Hey, I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Ellie Kalin.

0:39

We're going to have an interesting show for

0:41

you today. Dan's on cold medicine. One of

0:43

my kids is home with a cold and

0:45

Stuart, he's just cold hearted. Yep. Oh man,

0:48

if only. Look into his eyes. Oh,

0:50

uh oh. He's been

0:52

telling lies. But

0:55

I am a lover boy at play. The

0:57

thing is the rules. I don't play by them. No,

1:00

no. You're also kind of a jukebox

1:02

hero, right? Turn in your lover boy

1:04

badge and gun. I guess

1:07

it would be condoms. Yes.

1:10

Yeah. I mean, it's part of both things. Is

1:12

that like equivalent to like a silencer or where

1:14

does that? Yeah, it's like the silencer

1:16

for your penis because it contains the sound

1:19

when you. Cause normally when I

1:21

bust it, it's, it's crazy. Yeah.

1:23

It sounds like a, like a

1:25

balloon deflation. Well you sing about

1:27

it like Ray Parker Jr. So

1:29

it's loud. Yeah.

1:32

I'm shouting mommy. Wow.

1:37

We're not winning any new listeners with

1:39

the beginning of this episode. Okay. That

1:41

was the play. This exorcist,

1:43

the believer episode. Yeah. People said, Oh,

1:45

I can't wait to hear about this movie

1:48

that I forgot about existing. Yeah. I'm going

1:50

to jump in on a big one. A

1:52

hot one. This exorcist believer movie sounds good.

1:55

Hey, this is a podcast recently

1:58

added to peacock. Okay. Oh

2:00

man, can't wait to look at the whole podcast. Oh, I've

2:02

heard the things about The Exorcist. Oh wait, let me look

2:04

at the small type. Believer. Oh, this is

2:06

not the one I thought it was. I mean,

2:08

if I know anything about streaming in two years,

2:10

this will be the most inexplicably popular thing ever.

2:12

Yeah. Yeah. The procedural base on

2:15

it. And talk about streaming more like screaming. Because

2:17

this is a horror movie. And Dan, what are

2:19

we doing on this podcast? This

2:21

is a podcast where we watch bad movies and

2:23

talk about them. You know, we have a whole

2:26

month devoted to screaming coming

2:29

up later in the year. Scream temper. Yeah,

2:32

we don't need to. We

2:34

don't need to stick to that for horror movies.

2:36

We realize we can have a little fun once

2:38

in a while. Oh, wait a minute. It's me,

2:40

the straw man. I'm saying, hey Dan, you can

2:42

only do horror movies in free temper. Get out

2:44

of here. We can have fun once

2:46

in a while. Let us have fun with straw man. Once

2:48

again, that Dan has to get rid of his, our geneticist,

2:50

the straw man, who's always making Dan do explanatory

2:53

advisories and provides those about things

2:56

no one cares about. All

2:58

right. Well, fuck both of you.

3:01

So we watched Exorcist, the Exorcist

3:03

believer. David Gordon Green was done

3:05

to EG. This

3:10

is not Exorcist versus Seversist.

3:12

No, no, no, no. But

3:15

I know you were clearly

3:17

worth interrupting the sentence. Tell

3:20

us about David Gordon Green. I apologize. You

3:23

know, he got tired of doing

3:26

questionable things to the Halloween franchise and

3:28

decided to move over to

3:30

another classic of the seventies horror. Yeah. Yeah.

3:34

I mean, not to throw shade at David Gordon

3:36

Green. I love a lot of

3:38

his TV work. He has done some

3:41

really good stuff. I just made some very good movies. Yeah. I

3:44

do not think he has a particular aptitude

3:46

for horror and he seems to want to do a lot of

3:48

it. But he loves horror. Yeah. He

3:52

has a very, he's a very,

3:54

got a very eclectic filmography where

3:56

he started out doing very kind

3:59

of like. emotion-based independent

4:01

atmospheric independent films He also did pineapple Express

4:03

in your highness and then once he got

4:05

like drug humor out of his system He

4:07

was like time to time to go

4:09

to the horror movies of the 70s I mean he

4:11

also made like Joe he made he's made a number of like Different

4:15

if you look at like Robert Wise to

4:17

find a more, you know, all

4:19

over the place filmography, you know I try not to

4:21

be mean on this show and I don't I'm not

4:24

trying to be mean here Like I think he's done

4:26

great work. It's mostly not in horror Which

4:29

is what he's turned his hand to like even the even

4:32

the first Halloween New

4:34

movie which everyone was pretty

4:36

high on I was like, yeah,

4:39

this is fine Like I like it as a cap

4:42

off to the movies that I liked

4:45

From a long time ago. This is a nice little

4:47

ending and then of course it

4:49

was successful. So they made more of them Guys

4:52

I hate to interrupt. I just got a text message from one

4:54

of my beer reps. Yeah No,

4:56

it says by all means he says hey just a

4:59

heads up. It's a Super Bowl week I'm

5:04

gonna roast this guy in the group chat right now. Yeah

5:10

No, no, he's giving out free Super Bowls

5:12

for national Super Bowl week from May

5:16

not know about a national holiday Okay,

5:20

sorry for interrupting so we've we've we

5:23

just covered that David and Gordon Greet's horror movies

5:25

aren't very good Right and that they're all like

5:27

dredging up nostalgia bait bullshit. Yeah.

5:29

Yeah, I mean, I mean you said that

5:32

just now Oh, oh, yeah, I just did do

5:34

you guys disagree? Are you like no? I like

5:36

it when they bring back they do legacy equals

5:38

and bring back people from the original movies and

5:41

Have them kind of do fanfiction II type

5:43

shit and also like are kind

5:45

of disrespected by the movie that I mean to

5:47

be to be I haven't I actually haven't seen

5:49

any of his Halloween movies because I just figured

5:51

I don't need to but I mean

5:53

the Rob zombies That's all you need. Yes. I

5:55

saw the original into

6:00

your Dragula, you went to the movie theater and

6:02

you watched him. Yeah, I got into my hopped

6:05

up homemade monster car. But

6:09

yeah, in general,

6:11

I am not a huge fan of the

6:13

legacy sequel trend, which I guess,

6:15

did Tron Legacy start that, or was

6:18

it something else that started it? I

6:20

mean, I feel like Matt Singer coined legacy

6:22

sequels, so I'll just shoot him a text

6:24

after the show and he'll give us all

6:27

the info. And when he's done killing himself

6:29

with the menu of the Barbie themed Denny's

6:31

menu, he'll

6:34

be able to get back to you. I think

6:36

he already did that, and it was a Wonka

6:38

Denny's menu that was particularly horrifying. But

6:41

I don't know what's next. What are there,

6:43

like, is there gonna be a Dune menu where you

6:45

eat like a fucking bowl of sand or something? Of

6:47

course. A bowl of sand and worms, yeah. The big

6:49

Denny's drive away dolls. Oh,

6:53

yeah, yeah, the Love Lies Bleeding special

6:55

menu. He's all over the powder. Full

6:57

of work of the Coens. He's

7:00

sitting in Applebee's right now having

7:02

the Applebee's Argyle-a-thon menu. Oh,

7:04

no, it's just cat

7:06

food. It's cat food in

7:09

bags, yep. I

7:12

don't know, tell us about this movie, Stuart. Why don't you-

7:14

Oh, yeah, let's fire this fucker up. So, actually, just go

7:16

on. You

7:18

guys have seen The Exorcist before, right? The original one.

7:21

And we did The Exorcist too for a

7:23

live streaming show. I think that's one that's

7:25

available on YouTube for those who wanna

7:28

check it out. Before we get to the movie, I just wanna say,

7:31

I like that first Exorcist movie. That's a

7:33

really good movie. That first Exorcist, yeah. And

7:35

it's a movie that, I mean, we'll get into

7:37

maybe my theological problems with these sorts of films

7:42

later on, but it's a movie that I think

7:45

sort of weaponizes the fact that

7:47

we live in a secular

7:51

world for

7:55

the horror of this unexplained thing happening

7:57

better than like, you

7:59

know, possession movies that

8:01

came afterwards that kind of like assume like

8:04

yeah, we all buy into This

8:06

cosmology of the universe in having sex

8:08

with a tentacle monster. I get it.

8:10

Yeah It's

8:13

a possession movie technically I'm correct You take

8:15

the correct possession is a movie about a

8:17

woman having sex with a tentacle monster I

8:20

mean as much as I like the exorcist so I'm

8:22

on the scoreboard should we As

8:27

much as I like the excess I do like possession

8:29

more I mean possession is a scarier

8:32

movie that that goes straight my veins

8:34

more than more than the exorcist But

8:36

I guess the exorcist takes

8:38

like kind of like

8:41

mainstream a mainstream

8:43

major American religion and

8:46

Makes it seem horrifying in a way

8:48

that like other Movies

8:51

I of this ilk I think Ask

8:54

me to buy into something. Maybe I

8:56

don't necessarily want to There's

9:00

all these like supernatural things going on all the

9:02

time and we need the church to save us

9:05

Anytime you watch them one of these movies you have to

9:08

suspend your disbelief that the devil does not exist

9:10

But I've watched so many movies where I

9:12

have to I mean Dan. I hate to break do Wookiees are

9:14

not real either No, I I know

9:16

I knew that you were gonna make this argument and

9:18

my rebuttal to it is like With

9:21

like that will these are real Dan. I didn't want you

9:23

to have to find out this way That's not a wookie

9:25

that's a hairy guy With vampires

9:28

like I'm not saying that there's no

9:30

one out there who like believes

9:32

that they exist You know like there's

9:35

someone there's some daft person wearing a

9:37

frilly velvet robe right now and good

9:39

on you for believing in

9:41

vampires, but Yeah, you're

9:43

gonna be crushing out a solo black metal

9:45

record I'm just saying that like

9:47

with that I don't have to deal with the fact that

9:50

there are a bunch of people in

9:52

real life That believe this shit

9:54

and it leads them to do a lot of

9:56

stuff that I don't agree with yes Well, and

9:58

I think you're right about that In

10:00

the original Exorcist, I think they walked that line

10:02

pretty well because they really only talk about the

10:04

devil or not devil aspects of the church. Whereas

10:06

this episode, they start to talk about abortion at

10:09

one point in a way that I was like,

10:12

this is getting into. This movie is taking

10:14

on water that it cannot hold. Thank

10:17

you. My only problem with the original Exorcist

10:19

is I feel like it's a little cliched

10:21

to cast Max von Seideye on the

10:23

movie because you know that dude's going to be the bad guy,

10:25

right? I hate

10:27

to break it to you. That's the one movie

10:29

that Enmar Bergman didn't make where Max von Seideye is

10:32

not the bad guy. Wait a minute. I thought he

10:34

played a Catholic priest and you're saying he's not the

10:36

bad guy? Once again, Stuart. Put

10:40

me on the board. The

10:42

leftist secular politics is neoliberal

10:44

anarchism. Not neoliberal. Neoliberal

10:47

is basically conservative. You would

10:49

be what a progressive anarchist?

10:54

I describe myself as a

10:56

classic stinker. I'm just amazed.

10:58

We've barely ever used the

11:00

scoreboard before. Oh man, why

11:02

is it up? It's on fire. We'll

11:06

have the storage unit. Amazingly,

11:08

in this year's presidential debates, the

11:10

stinker party got enough votes for Stuart

11:12

to be on the debate stage. It's

11:15

a problem though because I'm

11:17

such a force of personality that when I

11:19

leave, my other stinkers just don't have my

11:21

same rival charm. So they

11:23

won't be able to hold off. That's

11:25

what leads to January stinks.

11:27

Thanks, Elliot. Thanks for

11:29

telegraphing the future. So boom.

11:32

Exorcist, believer. First

11:36

off, who's the believer in this movie? Think

11:38

about it. Well, maybe you can answer after

11:40

the movie. That's a good question because there's

11:42

a couple different people who could be the

11:44

believer, and we're talking about belief in it.

11:47

It was only after the movie was over that

11:49

I was like, oh, I guess the title

11:51

is about different types of belief.

11:54

It just felt like such a generic title going into it

11:56

that I didn't really think about it until it was over.

12:00

So the movie opens in Haiti. Our

12:04

characters are Victor and Soren, Serene,

12:08

who are, I believe, a married couple.

12:10

She's pregnant, he's a photographer, he's taking,

12:13

it actually opens with him taking photos of dogs

12:15

fighting, and I'm like, oh, what's this

12:17

representing? And I guess we'll find out later. And

12:20

Victor's played by Leslie Odom, Leslie Odom Jr. who,

12:22

I know Stuart and I have seen him on

12:25

stage. Dan, you must have. You saw the original

12:27

Hamilton cast, right? I also saw him on stage,

12:29

and he is the main thing

12:32

keeping this movie from flying off the rails

12:34

completely. He is very good in this movie

12:36

that he's got it. Yes, he's very good.

12:39

I just wanted to mention this wasn't just Elliot having

12:41

seen this person in a play, all three of us have seen this

12:43

person in a play. Stuart and I went

12:45

to it together. Yep, holding hands,

12:48

tears in our eyes. Yeah, and then we

12:51

skipped away into the rainbow roads of Valhalla.

12:53

Not to jump ahead, but do you also

12:55

see Norbert Leo Butz on stage? Because

12:58

I did in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels opposite

13:00

John Lithgow. Ironically, he is one of

13:02

the guys who's in a lot of

13:04

Broadway plays who I think I've never actually seen in a Broadway

13:07

play. He plays one of the dads, the

13:09

other dad. Okay,

13:11

so Serene, who I said

13:13

was pregnant, is still pregnant. She's getting

13:15

her baby blessed by some local women.

13:21

And she just said, like later on, she's like,

13:23

yeah, these women offered to give a blessing to

13:25

our unborn baby. Okay, that's fine. This little boy

13:27

brought her over there. I'm like, don't follow this

13:29

little boy. That's how gremlins get into your life.

13:31

Gremlin, yeah, that's how you get a gremlin. Which

13:33

is technically what they're trying to do. She's trying

13:35

to give birth to a little boy. They're trying

13:37

to bring a little gremlin into being, yeah. And

13:39

I'll tell you, the same rules apply. Don't

13:42

feed a kid after midnight. They should be in bed already.

13:45

Don't get them wet unless they're taking a

13:47

bath. They don't like to take baths. You gotta do

13:49

it. They're sticky enough. Actually, you gotta wipe them off.

13:52

And don't show them

13:54

sunlight. Because

13:57

you want them to be real, like pale ghost children.

13:59

Who are real spooky and they look in windows and

14:02

they scare people walking by yeah is is there one

14:04

of the rules? Don't shoot them with the electric gremlin

14:12

Yeah, it's gonna wreck your gremlin sometimes you

14:15

want that to happen like once one time

14:17

you wanted that to happen But also kids

14:19

love snow white the seven dwarves gremlins love

14:21

snow white the seven dwarves same thing Yeah,

14:24

all these rules also apply to my novelty

14:27

gremlin flesh Well

14:30

you can't be left in the night Don't

14:37

get it wet you'll break it. Yeah, that's the

14:39

problem Nothing

14:42

like a dry J.O. session Okay,

14:47

you also don't want to use that in open

14:49

sunlight You weird

14:51

yeah, Dan says that he's watching our Lister

14:54

numbers Complete Somehow

14:58

in the future yeah now and it's covered.

15:00

It's got the green cut of modeled skin

15:02

of a of a gremlin yeah, dude Wiles

15:05

when I buy it Gremlin

15:09

theme fleshlight don't you understand? I

15:13

don't know the fleshlight. Does it make noise? Well

15:19

It's more like like like you're

15:21

mixing macaroni Oh You

15:26

knew we were gonna talk about the Exorcist

15:28

Believer episode speaker right in the notes Yeah,

15:32

you can get the email about what we're

15:34

covering okay spin ten minutes on fleshlight It

15:37

would be how how strange without Surprising

15:39

would have been if later in the film lovely Adam

15:42

jr. It's just like I gotta deal with the fact

15:44

that my daughter's been possessed by the devil I gotta

15:46

get some of this stress out just right out of

15:48

fleshlight And I'm like

15:50

dog you have that in the house with children cuz children

15:52

get into everything She's gonna find that thing and those are

15:54

harder to explain than a vibrator. I think yeah That's why

15:57

you need a safe you need to put it in a

15:59

safe. It's like what? Dan was complaining about

16:01

the other day, the global standard

16:03

our society has on different genders

16:05

of sex toys. No, well, I

16:08

mean, everyone should have a sex toy that

16:10

wants one. That's, I'm for that, I guess.

16:13

Okay. So Dan's just thrown in a free ad for

16:15

sex toys on our podcast. Yeah. Thanks,

16:17

Dan. The sex toy council. It's just

16:19

sort of a non-specific. Okay.

16:22

Booster group. So after,

16:24

uh, after like traveling around, checking

16:26

out a church, uh,

16:28

there is an earthquake in Haiti and,

16:31

uh, they are separated and Victor

16:33

played by Leslie Odom Jr finds

16:35

his wife trapped under rubble. And

16:38

the rescue workers are like, we

16:40

can only save her or the

16:42

baby. And his wife in her, his dying

16:45

wife says, you know, protect her, which is, I

16:47

guess the rules that he's going to live by

16:49

the rest of the movie. And I'd like to

16:51

say that other than sort of drafting

16:53

off of a real life tragedy for me,

16:57

his first section is the most successful in

16:59

the movie. Like it has atmosphere.

17:01

It has some tension. Like

17:03

I think green, I want to

17:06

be clear again. I don't like him. I'm trying to

17:10

figure out what doesn't work for me about his

17:13

horror movies because I do think that he is good

17:15

at atmosphere, but maybe bad attention.

17:17

I think, I think maybe that's part of

17:19

it. I think real, I think it's more

17:21

of a story problem than it is a

17:23

production or, or directing problem. Uh, but I

17:25

will say I'll give them credit for, I

17:27

was ready for them to bring

17:30

in some kind of evil voodoo that the

17:32

church has to, that the priest has to

17:34

undo. Like the baby has been cursed or

17:36

something. Yeah. Yep. And I was very glad

17:38

that they didn't. Luckily that wasn't the case. Yeah. Uh,

17:40

I feel Dan, uh, just like off the top of

17:42

my dome, I think one of the issues at least

17:45

I have with his, uh, Halloween

17:47

movies is I feel like the point of

17:49

view feels a little off. Like I don't

17:51

know if I'm supposed to be scared

17:54

for the people that are getting killed or if I

17:56

should be saying, wow, this is cool. Yeah.

17:59

I mean. I would say that

18:01

that's a problem with any late

18:03

period slasher movie though, including maybe

18:05

in your beloved Friday the 13th series where I'm

18:07

like, who am I sympathizing with

18:09

here? I mean, I'm sympathizing with Jason cause

18:12

he's the man. I

18:14

was, did you get my internet froze for a sec? Did you

18:16

guys hear what I was saying about Haiti or no? Yeah.

18:18

Yeah. Yeah. And we all agreed

18:20

with you. Okay. And we, when we also

18:23

said you're the best, you're the funniest guy. I

18:25

appreciate that. Oh, I'm sure the scoreboard. Yeah. I

18:27

made it on the scoreboard. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Dan

18:30

whipped out a ukulele and sang a little song

18:32

kind of talking about how great you are. Oh,

18:34

wow. Yeah. You miss a lot. Um,

18:36

okay. So just outside of the zoom frame, though, so you

18:38

didn't see it. So 13 years later, what,

18:40

who did he choose? Well,

18:45

we find out because Victor is now

18:47

living with his daughter, Angela, which of

18:49

course is hilarious. Anytime you have

18:51

a movie with devils and shit, and there's a

18:53

character named Angela, you're like, Oh, good one. Good

18:55

name. But what if it was, what if you

18:57

had seen a picture of Judith Light in the

18:59

house and you're like, Oh, she's named after Judith

19:01

Light's character on who's the boss. I mean, I

19:03

would, I would give this movie a lot more

19:06

credit at that point. It's

19:09

like that old, did you, did you ever see that Ben Stiller

19:11

show sketch, uh, what is it like? Like

19:14

hackneyed tales of cliched horror where he plays

19:16

a, uh, where Ben Stiller

19:18

plays a radio, like shock, shock, who

19:21

is in hell. And he's like, he

19:24

occasionally looks with like longingly at a photo

19:26

of his girlfriend named Angela. But

19:29

you like calls and tries to tell him to like, come back.

19:32

Oh, it's funny. It's a good bit. It's a good bit. So

19:35

he lives with his daughter. They have, they

19:37

seem to have a pretty fun relationship. She is

19:39

a good dad. He's put, he's

19:41

put all of himself into being the

19:43

father that he needs to be for

19:45

her since she doesn't have a mother.

19:47

Other than he is extremely overprotective. He

19:49

seems to like always have her come

19:51

directly home. Well, his wife did die

19:53

in an earthquake, Dan. Yeah. So

19:56

you think the earthquake stalking her to finish the

19:58

job. I've seen jobs for. quake

20:00

for the revenge was

20:02

going to follow them. I mean,

20:04

I understand psychologically why he might be

20:06

overprotective. I'm just saying that that is his flaw

20:08

as a father. I think I say, yeah, yeah,

20:10

that's true. Although if he had been watching her

20:12

more closely, maybe she wouldn't have gone into the

20:14

woods and watered into the devil, the

20:17

devil district, maybe she had water into the hell

20:19

part of the woods. Yeah. So

20:21

they like play hide and seek a little

20:23

bit. They argue about vegetarianism. Uh,

20:26

she wants, she's like super curious about

20:28

her mom, but he's very protective about,

20:30

uh, his, his, uh, dead

20:32

wife's things. Um, and, uh,

20:34

is kind of, you know, he's, he keeps

20:36

things from his daughter. I guess it's out

20:38

of a sense of his own like loss,

20:40

whatever. At school,

20:42

Angela, uh, meets up with

20:45

her friend Catherine and

20:47

they make plans to sneak out, uh,

20:49

sneak off into the woods after school and

20:51

lie to both of their parents so that

20:53

they can go off and do a seance.

20:56

And now they're going to talk to her

20:58

mom. Oh, they don't expect, oh, they don't

21:00

expect anything bad to happen. Their plans are

21:02

pretty simple into the woods, into

21:04

the woods, into the woods and home

21:06

before dark. That's the plan. Yep.

21:08

Uh, is that a, is that a

21:10

reference to a musical? Uh, wait very much is

21:13

called. Wait, let me check my notes. Uh,

21:16

merrily we roll along. Oh,

21:18

okay. So they, they

21:21

find like they sneak off into the woods. You

21:23

know, they made plans like you tell your parents

21:25

that we're having stove top at your house. And

21:27

I'll tell my parents were having stove top at

21:29

their house. And so. Can

21:31

we talk about that commercial for a moment? I

21:33

was going to that they are going to go

21:35

to both houses so their parents will know at

21:38

a certain point that they are not actually having

21:40

dinner at the other house. Right. I

21:42

would on one of them, I think. Yeah. Then yeah.

21:45

Well, what is the story there at that point? Like, Oh,

21:47

we tried to go over there, but we were,

21:50

I mean, the

21:54

easiest answer is we ate stove top

21:56

there and it was so good. We

21:58

wanted more, right? But they're like, But

22:00

they're trying to range like can I have dinner at Bobby's

22:02

house tonight? But then they're gonna show up at their house

22:04

and still have to it like oh I went we went

22:06

to Bobby's house and his pastor had a key party. So

22:08

we weren't Close

22:12

with them, but they didn't invite you. Yeah. What

22:14

is a key party by the way? Oh

22:17

to shut us up You're gonna shove our

22:19

mouth full of stovetop stuffing plan

22:22

work And

22:25

home before dark Okay,

22:27

so they wander off into the woods

22:29

they find like like a ruined

22:31

foundation of a building and they climb down

22:34

into the basement And

22:36

they have their little seance thing. Meanwhile

22:39

Leslie Odom jr. Is having a hell of a

22:41

time with a photo shoot for this family because

22:44

he's a photographer and he's doing a family photo

22:46

and this kid just won't behave which is really

22:48

I think one of the themes of this movie

22:50

kids acting crazy But yeah, but I feel like

22:52

damn just things subliminal

22:56

Style but not really because they're like not that

22:58

quick shots of like devil faces over

23:00

the kid for a couple parts of it I'm

23:02

like, what is this? The

23:05

kids Gonna

23:07

happen later, Dan, but it doesn't really make

23:09

sense because the devil's not involved with that

23:11

kid But and the thing is a different

23:13

devil because this in the Exorcist world there's

23:15

specific demons with specific names It's not just

23:17

the overall satan devil. So maybe that kid's

23:19

dealing with some other devil It's

23:21

another side movie. Maybe that's the Red

23:24

devil and maybe it's yeah, maybe

23:26

it's the movie saying hey They

23:28

can't they bought a ticket for Exorcist believer. Maybe

23:30

they forgot that it's a devil movie.

23:32

What's wrong? They think it's a

23:34

it's a parenting movie up to this point. We gotta

23:37

remind them. There's devils in this movie Check out this

23:39

problem show back home I

23:41

mean it could be a very could be called problem Yeah,

23:44

the Exorcist could also be the original one could be called

23:46

that I

23:48

I would love problem child too because there's two

23:50

of them That's true It would

23:52

be funny if the problem child movies did at

23:54

the end Turn out that the devil was possessing

23:57

the kid, but then the kid is so annoying that even the devil

23:59

is like out of here puts on

24:01

a hat picks up a suitcase walks out yeah

24:03

yeah same thing with like the good son that

24:05

they're like actually it was the devil and

24:07

also if you couldn't tell he was actually the

24:10

bad son for anyone who's not clear on the

24:16

movie now that you're walking out of theater he

24:18

was the bad son it was ironically titled you

24:20

know there's someone who's like I don't know why

24:22

they called it the good son that son was

24:24

bad he was bad let me

24:27

write a letter to my congressman yeah how many

24:29

like nanas went to that movie being like I

24:31

love seeing good sons do good stuff and then that

24:33

kid grew up and was like I can't wait to

24:35

see Ana de Armas in this movie and then went

24:37

to see it was like how dare they tease

24:40

me with that I'm gonna see

24:43

you do you're a better business

24:45

bureau this son was mislabeled I

24:47

would like to send in the

24:49

unused portion sir you

24:53

devoured miss in this movie oh

24:57

so back home in

24:59

an empty home because his daughter is

25:01

off having a sance he

25:04

is going through he's like going through the

25:06

photos for the day and like the lights

25:09

start to flicker that's a regular thing as

25:11

demonic crap happens in this movie it causes

25:13

electrical stuff and it caused like a weird

25:15

distortion effect on his computer monitor and you're

25:17

like what happened there it's like when she've

25:20

Palpatine beams in and that Star Wars movie

25:22

and his body looks all crazy okay yeah

25:24

it is a it is a little bit

25:30

like that for a moment the movie turns

25:33

into D Snyder's strange land for your

25:36

dog yeah this computer's twee evens are

25:38

like solar flares they're just gonna fields

25:43

electrical fields so of course the

25:45

the little girls never come home

25:47

the parents quickly cut through

25:49

the ruse they call around and figure out

25:51

that the kid the daughters were lying to

25:53

them they realized that they went off into

25:56

the woods so they

25:58

are not before dark yep not Victor

26:00

and then the parents of Catherine

26:02

all go off into the woods

26:05

looking for this, uh, their

26:07

daughters. And now they're the parent

26:09

Catherine's parents. Catherine is like her

26:11

family's more religious. According

26:13

to the Wikipedia entry, they are Baptist, but yeah,

26:15

they are more, they're more, they're churchgoing folk. And

26:18

it's Tony and something. I don't remember

26:20

his mother's name. Tony and Tina from

26:22

Tony and Tina's wedding, another New

26:25

York theatrical tradition. Is that the one where

26:27

one of them is Italian and one of

26:30

them is, are they both Italian? They're both

26:32

Italian. No, no, you're thinking of the play.

26:34

My mother's Italian. My father's Jewish and I'm

26:36

in therapy. Yes, I am thinking. Or

26:39

maybe it's the other way around. My father's Italian mother's just

26:41

the, uh, that's just when the joke is just that they're

26:43

Italian. Can you believe it? Yeah. They're just, and

26:45

also they interact with you. You know, it's like you're a guest at

26:47

the wedding. This is, uh, Tony and Miranda West.

26:50

Okay. I believe that's her name. So they

26:52

searched the woods. They find some evidence of their

26:54

daughters, like a book pack, a

26:56

book pack, bag pack. What do you

26:58

think? Yeah. Back to you. You

27:01

were young children. That's a word you haven't used

27:03

in many years. A book pack. A book pack?

27:05

What's a book pack? Guys,

27:08

what's happening to me? What's going on?

27:11

Oh, am I possessed? I don't know. I don't know.

27:14

They've got a pile of books with

27:16

a belt tied around it. They're hitting a hoop with a stick.

27:19

They go down. The, uh, Leslie

27:21

Adam junior goes down into the,

27:23

uh, the flooded basement area. Don't

27:25

see anything gross Dan. Um, and

27:28

he finds, uh, and there's a

27:30

snake scare, which is nice and

27:32

refreshing. Cats aren't the only animals

27:34

that scare people. It's a snake that's not. We're pressing.

27:37

Snake goes wiggling past and he's like, ah,

27:39

and then he finds a discarded shoe. What's

27:41

up with these girls? Uh,

27:44

the parents getting a big fight at the police station.

27:46

Uh, at first, you know, they're working together

27:48

to find their kids, but now they're like, they don't trust

27:50

each other. Uh, Victor at

27:52

one point is like the one thing you need to know about

27:54

me. I care about my daughter. I'm like,

27:56

you're not a fucking reality show buddy. Like it's fine.

28:00

We all assume you care about your daughter if you're here at

28:02

this point. Yeah, but it's, it's, it's like,

28:04

there's a, the similar to leave the world behind.

28:06

There's a light shading of white

28:08

couple doesn't trust black guy, black father,

28:12

the, uh, and a little bit

28:14

of like, we're religious, you're not religious.

28:16

So they're like, we didn't even know

28:18

your daughter was friends with, uh, with

28:20

our daughter, which he knew who his

28:22

daughter's friends are. They don't, it's, you

28:24

know, it's a classic parent conflict stuff

28:26

in movies. I think also early, early

28:29

in the film set up, there is more

28:31

of a sprinkling of kind of

28:33

general unneighborliness from people that kind of,

28:35

you know, like indicates that they're sort

28:38

of isolated a little bit in this

28:40

suburban community. And it, it

28:43

threatens to coalesce into a theme

28:45

and never really does. Well, it

28:47

does in a way that one of the

28:49

things I liked about the movie, I don't like a

28:51

lot about the movie. One of the things I do

28:53

like is the general message is not we have to

28:55

get in and exorcist a priest or authority figure to

28:57

do this. It is that a community has to come

29:00

together to try to save these girls. And so early

29:02

on their neighbor who the dad is always arguing with,

29:04

uh, played by and out,

29:06

played by and out. She's going to come

29:08

in and help them. The parents are going

29:10

to hopefully come together, but they don't trust

29:12

each other at first. So if the movie

29:14

was kind of better thought through, they could

29:16

have had a really powerful message about the

29:18

thing that stops the devil from taking your

29:20

children is when there's a community around you that

29:22

can support you and your family, but they don't

29:25

quite get there. But I think that's what they're

29:27

working towards. Well, and speaking of that, the, uh,

29:29

this argument leads them, uh, arguing

29:31

about whether or not the girls disappearance

29:33

might be related to a nearby, uh,

29:36

transient community. Uh, they are

29:38

worried that the girls had been kidnapped by,

29:40

uh, you know, some, uh,

29:42

some people living nearby. Um, and

29:45

so there, there's like some elements of that.

29:47

Uh, Leslie Odom Jr. Goes to like a

29:49

shelter, uh, and interviews some

29:51

of these people and, uh, you know, there's

29:54

a little bit of spookiness, but there's not

29:56

much. Not much. This, this is almost like

29:59

it's less a red hair. Which I think it's

30:01

then I'm just like a little cold effect that they

30:03

go on and they don't do much with it It's

30:05

not really tied to the rest of the thing and

30:07

the movies called the exorcist believers You know that a

30:09

homeless person did not kidnap these. Yeah, you know what

30:11

the devil's involved Or

30:13

a devil not the devil. I'm sorry It

30:16

could be one of the one of the New Jersey Another

30:21

thing I do

30:23

think that like this is a Lega

30:26

sequel thing of we are taking a

30:29

direct page from the first one And

30:31

we're gonna spend the first half of the

30:33

movie like kind of trying to ground this

30:35

in Yeah, a

30:37

very like realistic world

30:40

and You know as far

30:42

as it goes like I will say

30:44

it doesn't Work

30:46

because like honestly like the first half of the movie

30:49

is the part that works best for me But

30:51

on the other hand, you know this mini movies

30:54

into an exorcist series You're not like I

30:56

wonder if there's one of those girls really possessed

30:58

or not You know and also and

31:01

especially because pretty much not too long

31:03

after this every every hair Church just goes all

31:05

in on demon possession. Yep. We got it We

31:09

know what we thought they might have run away. We thought

31:11

a homeless person might have kidnapped them There's the

31:13

only two options. So I guess it has to be a devil

31:15

Let's just let's just go with it and it feels very abrupt

31:19

the same way that when we did when we

31:21

watched the Pope's exorcist which had the Added advantage

31:23

of being silly that the family is like that

31:26

They're like by the way your kids are possessed and

31:28

the mom is like, of course. Yes. Tell me what

31:30

to do There's never there's no pushback. Finally someone sees

31:32

it Yeah,

31:34

and of course that movie also features

31:36

Russell Crowe just stunting on everybody with

31:38

that crazy Ridiculous

31:42

accent what a fun movie Okay,

31:45

so Victor come home

31:47

It was I we recently we were we had

31:49

to vote for the writers guild awards and I

31:51

hadn't seen enough movies to see I really liked

31:53

and the Pope's exorcist was on there. I'm like,

31:55

I'll nominate that That's

31:58

get nominated that was fun Thumbs

32:00

up win. So

32:02

a few days into the disappearance Victor

32:05

comes home to find that his friend Stuart

32:09

No in this movie That

32:12

his friend Stuart is broken into his home and

32:14

has brought a a woman named

32:16

doctor Now I've I only

32:19

saw it written in the captions. I didn't actually hear

32:21

him say the name is it beehive

32:23

or Bahib? Beehive

32:26

like beehive with a V. I think it's the

32:28

eBay, but I'm not sure because I couldn't I

32:30

couldn't quite make out What it what the sound

32:32

was either. Yeah, and she's performing some

32:35

kind of like some kind of a ritual to

32:37

draw to bring the girls home bring Angela home

32:40

and Victor is still a Disbeliever

32:42

and it gets them out of his house however

32:47

Something happened because meanwhile 30 miles

32:49

away at a nearby farm There

32:52

is a sick horse and they find

32:54

the two girls in the barn. Oh,

32:56

the girls are back The

33:00

girls are back in town they're actually out of

33:02

town they're in a barn in the outskirts of

33:04

town So

33:07

they interview the girls the girls think they've only been

33:09

missing for a few guys they say to the girls

33:17

Which devils are your guys? What

33:19

did your dad do for a living? Yeah Is

33:23

who you with Lamache to Well

33:27

there with pomat Lamache to who in ancient

33:30

Ancient Sumerian lore with an enemy

33:32

of Pazuzu. Oh, oh

33:34

cool. Thanks. Yeah, I had you've been

33:37

reading your fucking Monsters manual Yeah, yeah,

33:39

exactly and I've been polio over there

33:41

my Wikipedia manual that Lamache to

33:43

went after children and unborn children Pazuzu

33:46

was often invoked to protect birthing mothers

33:48

against Lamache to and the Lamache to

33:50

in the ancient Sumerian religion It's like

33:53

a hybrid monster with like a lion's

33:55

head and stuff. That's not what you see in this

33:57

movie Yeah, that sounds a lot like

33:59

a lamb which is one of

34:01

the mount options for a cast or sorcerer lord

34:03

and war hammer fantasy battle, baby Because they need

34:06

to fly around on things because cast or if

34:08

Matt Magic slowly corrupts their bodies

34:10

and turns their bodies to stone Let's go they

34:12

need somebody to take their ass around because they're

34:14

just turning like a statue man Banjo

34:17

that's making me some suddenly sleepy No,

34:21

let me pull up some images on my phone do

34:23

the really beard Okay,

34:27

so so they found the girls

34:29

the girls find the girls the girls are back

34:31

in town the girls think they've only been Gone

34:33

for a few hours, but in fact they've been

34:35

gone for three days. What however, there's no other

34:37

signs of anything Pretty like wrong

34:39

with that. Well, for one thing they have burns

34:41

on their feet Oh, wow, were

34:44

they how'd that happen? Were they stunning the bottoms

34:46

of their feet? Well, that's what

34:48

I think that's what they check at first. They

34:50

go. Oh, are there some lamps some lamps the

34:52

barn? No, it's because when you're walking around hell,

34:54

you might as well be walking on the Sun

35:00

Man, you know remember when music

35:02

was good You're

35:06

possessed now you're a demon don't

35:08

play hey now Okay,

35:16

so go on and you have more singing to

35:18

do you got a Mash

35:21

to Also

35:23

a smash-mouthed song. Oh wow did

35:27

it so And

35:29

there there is a Believer I

35:31

couldn't leave her if I try. I know

35:34

that's a cover smash mouth I

35:41

thought demons were only in the Exorcist

35:44

so forth. Oh That's

35:47

all the fact I know so we're done

35:49

to the show. Okay, so there is there

35:51

is Best

35:53

but he gets up again. No, I was

35:56

gonna exercise Womba, but

35:58

it's actually really great that Ellie is,

36:00

you know, making us go through

36:02

this excruciating ritual because the movie makes

36:05

us watch a sequence where the girls

36:07

are then checked to see if they

36:09

have been assaulted by someone. Yeah, which

36:12

is unpleasant. Yeah. But I guess, I

36:14

mean, I guess I get what the movie's trying

36:16

to do with it. It's horrifying.

36:18

Who's the real monsters? The

36:20

medical establishment? Perhaps? Yeah,

36:23

yeah. Baxed. Okay, so

36:26

Angela, do

36:30

the research. Exorcist believer. Do your own research. So,

36:32

Angela goes back home

36:35

with her dad and she,

36:38

before bed, she explains that they went

36:40

off into the woods to do a

36:42

seance. She was trying to contact the

36:44

spirit of her mother, but she was

36:46

not able to do it. Meanwhile, she's

36:48

still acting a little bit weird and

36:50

we occasionally get like ghostly figures behind

36:52

people. It's a real good moment. I

36:54

rewound it because I wanted to watch

36:56

it again with a ghostly kind of

36:58

child image behind her dad in the

37:01

night. Not unlike a Reagan from the

37:03

original The X-ray. Yes, yes. And

37:06

is this around the time that she surprised

37:08

her dad while he's brushing his teeth? Yeah,

37:10

yeah. There's a sequence where he like he

37:12

puts her down to bed and then he's

37:14

going into the the bathroom and the lights

37:16

keep flickering again. That is a sign of

37:19

demons and she just appears next to him.

37:22

And he's like, get up there. What did

37:24

you say? It was a really good, she

37:27

goes, what did you say? And it was a really

37:29

good reappearance. It worked really well, I felt for me.

37:31

But also, I have lived that so many times. Not

37:33

the light flickering, but me just brushing my teeth and

37:35

then suddenly turning to see one of my children has

37:37

gotten out of bed and is standing there and I

37:39

didn't realize it going, what did you say? And I'm

37:41

like, I wasn't talking to you and I have to

37:43

lead them back to their bed. That happens all the

37:46

time. Exorcist believer, I feel seen.

37:48

Thank you. Yeah, yeah. This is

37:50

before your kids pick on you and stuff

37:52

you into a toilet. Would you say nerds

37:54

and they stuff me in the bathroom cabinet?

37:56

Yeah. Okay. So again, yeah, more flickering lights,

37:58

ghosts. There's, I expected. I honestly

38:00

expected more jump

38:03

scares in this sequence, but it's

38:05

actually pretty restrained. In

38:08

the morning after

38:11

making her her favorite breakfast, pancakes

38:13

and ice cream, he finds

38:15

her in bed sleeping on top of the covers,

38:17

like she's staying at a fucking cheap motel, but

38:20

she is peed all over the bed. So he

38:22

takes her into the bathroom to try and get

38:24

her cleaned up. And

38:26

then he like walks away and he comes

38:28

back and she's missing and the tub is

38:30

filled with brackish, dirty water and fingernails. And

38:33

then he finds her, she attacks

38:35

him with his dead wife's scarf

38:38

and she is like,

38:40

she is ranting and he has

38:42

to like hold her down and they have

38:44

to take her to the hospital and like

38:46

ever committed basically sedated. And he

38:49

does, I think, some really good, I

38:52

don't wanna touch these pea sheets acting

38:54

in this sequence. So

38:56

realistically, like looking at the bed like, okay, how am I gonna

38:58

approach this? Yeah. Elliot's

39:01

like, you get used to it. I

39:04

mean, that was the thing for a single person, I

39:07

understand, or someone, a childless person, you're not single, you're

39:09

married. I understand completely. But when you have children, yeah,

39:11

you're so used to touching their waist in different ways.

39:13

Like it's just, you can't- I presume it's been a

39:15

few years though for- Nope. For

39:18

this character. You never know, maybe.

39:20

I feel like it would be like riding a bicycle made out

39:23

of poop. You just, they'd all come flooding back and you'd know

39:25

how to do it. Yeah. Yeah.

39:27

Meanwhile, Catherine- A bicycle

39:29

made of poop. Ha ha ha.

39:33

Meanwhile, Catherine is in poop. No, so

39:35

many songs. Ha

39:38

ha ha ha. Daisy, Daisy, give me

39:40

your answer. Doo doo. Eh?

39:44

Down to one star on iTunes. Okay, no,

39:47

I get it. Fair's fair,

39:49

you know. We're up so high for so

39:51

long. Yeah, well, somebody had a night in

39:53

the back of the room. Fanning the flop

39:55

house. Yeah. Finally, something Democrats and Republicans can

39:57

agree on, they say. It's not even a

39:59

writer. It's the thing that they tack on writers too,

40:01

cause they know it's going to pass. Yeah. So

40:07

meanwhile, Katherine's parents have taken her

40:09

to church. Uh, the

40:11

pastor, priest, whatever is giving a sermon

40:13

about, uh, about Katherine coming back to

40:15

them. Uh, she is acting.

40:17

He seems real smug. He's a real smug

40:20

pastor. Yeah. And she is not acting normal

40:23

at this point. She's a kind

40:25

of dazed at one point she's

40:27

like fiddling under her skirt, which

40:29

I'm like, I don't like this. Um, and

40:32

then she, during communion,

40:34

she disappears only

40:36

to come back into the, uh, into

40:38

the church, uh, covered in communion

40:40

wine, which looks like blood. And she just

40:42

keeps shouting the body and the blood over

40:45

and over until she is tackled. And of

40:47

course the body and the blood sounds like

40:49

a great death metal song. I totally listened

40:51

to that shit. That's what happens to

40:53

me when I get into the communion wine too.

40:55

So I get it. Yeah. Uh,

40:58

Dan, you, you spent some time in the church. Is

41:00

this exactly your experience as well? Uh,

41:02

you know, we didn't have actual wine, you

41:04

know, it was grape juice. Uh, we are,

41:06

we, you know, my denomination is, I

41:09

think the only Protestant one that would take

41:11

communion, uh, every

41:13

Sunday, typically that's not like that's a

41:15

Catholic thing. And then other, you

41:18

know, Protestant sex

41:20

do it at a, at Easter. But

41:23

it was saying they were Baptist. Is this a

41:25

Baptist thing? Uh, I,

41:27

I don't know how much Baptist take me. I,

41:29

like I said, I think that it's

41:32

not typically in every Sunday thing

41:34

outside of Catholics. And,

41:36

and after she wanders in shouting the

41:38

body and the blood over and over,

41:40

she is tackled and she is also

41:43

taken to the hot sedated and taken

41:45

to the hospital. Yeah. They

41:49

want her sedated. So this

41:52

is where this is where the musical episode

41:54

of the flophouse. It's so musical. They're like,

41:56

you remember that fluffy musical episode? That's great.

41:58

But when I do it, suddenly. People don't

42:00

like it. If

42:02

we market it that way, so people know what

42:04

to expect, you know. This would be a mean

42:06

girl situation where some people get in there and

42:08

they're like, oh, I didn't sign up for this.

42:11

Did you see the video that was going on

42:13

Twitter where the song starts and the audience just

42:15

starts laughing? Oh,

42:18

that's too bad. For the filmmakers. They should have marketed

42:20

it as a musical. Weirdly enough, I am going to

42:22

be recommending, just a, this is a spoiler for the

42:25

rest of the episode. I am gonna be recommending

42:27

a musical today. Oh. And

42:30

I wanna be clear. You guys read my mind. I

42:32

liked the Mean Girls musical too. Oh,

42:35

okay. Good, okay. That's not

42:37

my recommendation. Two thumbs up. Oh, it's not your recommendation? Yeah, but you can

42:39

go see it if you like. Yeah, you can see it. You don't need

42:41

my hand, so I want you to go see it. Movie

42:44

goalie Dan is gonna be like, I'll let this one

42:46

pass. You don't have to take my world word for

42:48

it. You don't have to take

42:50

your world for it either. You don't have to take my

42:53

world for me. You can't, you son of a bitch. Who

42:55

are you, Dio Brando? Okay,

42:58

so the parents have a chitchat at

43:00

this point, and Victor

43:03

is talking to Catherine's parents, and Catherine's

43:05

parents reveal that she was supposed to

43:07

be baptized, but they did not baptize

43:09

her, and it's like, uh-oh. They put

43:11

it off until her grandmother could show

43:13

up, but that was just a couple

43:15

days too long. Yeah, thanks, Grandma. So

43:20

they're very much in the camp, like our daughters

43:22

possess, we need to do something about this. Victor,

43:24

he doesn't quite believe that.

43:26

He's still dubious. And I guess this tells you

43:28

baptism. It's

43:30

like chipping your pets. It's a thing you

43:32

do for safety ahead of time. You're

43:36

scotch guarding them against devil. Yeah,

43:41

this is where I have two issues with this, like you were talking about

43:43

earlier, Dan. One is, so the devil

43:45

would have been like, ah,

43:48

rats, you have a force field around you

43:50

from baptism. You've got a feel I can't

43:52

open. It's like a child lock on a

43:54

medicine bottle, but also like my

43:56

kids are not baptized. Is this movie telling me

43:59

that they are at? rate of risk of demons.

44:01

Look, I, I

44:03

agree with you that I normally don't bump

44:05

up against supernatural stuff. I'm just on

44:07

board. I will accept whatever shit

44:10

you're trying to sell me in the context of fiction,

44:12

most of the time. I do have

44:14

more trouble with this. And I'm like, I grew up religious. I'm

44:16

not saying I'm not religious at all. Like

44:18

I, but I'm saying that at this point in

44:21

my life, my conception of

44:23

religion is a lot more amorphous.

44:26

And, uh, I

44:29

don't know, just sort of personal than

44:31

any, I don't

44:33

believe that there's a set of magic spells you

44:35

can do to keep the devil to

44:37

keep. You don't believe that religion operates like the

44:39

same way that war hammer operates where there are

44:41

rules you have to follow according to how you

44:44

rule and things like that. I want to get,

44:46

Elliot explain the rules of war to me right

44:48

now. So anyway, we first, you roll to see

44:50

who goes first. Then, okay. Then

44:52

you take your, then you got to, then you

44:55

got to pick your guys. You line up all

44:57

your figurines and you take turns picking them. And

44:59

then what you do is then you got to

45:01

come up with your, your scenario. And the way

45:03

you did as you pick one of three scenario

45:05

cards, that's the beginning card, then you have to,

45:07

as you look at the color of that card

45:09

and you have to collect those colors, hips there

45:12

around the board in different places. Yep. And

45:14

now there's also the special die. There's one special

45:16

die that's hidden in the room. If you find

45:18

it, you get an extra life that extra life

45:21

can be traded in for a hundred gold chip

45:23

credit. Now the gold, the gold

45:25

chip credits, even joke listing to they're,

45:27

they're, they're also sick and if, and

45:29

you can stick them on your figures

45:31

and that gives them qualified immunity, which

45:33

means that can't be prosecuted for things they do in

45:35

the line of duty. I

45:38

say all this about not believing in magical spells,

45:40

but I also like, I don't,

45:43

you know, I appreciate what the movie's trying

45:45

to do at the end by not making

45:47

it like a specific religion by, by not

45:49

being making it like, Oh,

45:52

Catholics specifically have figured

45:54

out how to protect us against demons.

45:57

You know, it is a conglomeration of

45:59

different believers. They do a couple

46:01

times. They're like different people are like I've

46:03

I've studied all the ways of doing this

46:05

and all religions But it mainly comes down

46:07

to Catholic stuff. Yeah, but then like but

46:09

then the weird thing is That

46:12

makes me believe it even less at the end I'm like

46:14

well if it's all a morphos and what the fuck are

46:16

we doing here? Like what how are

46:18

we casting this demon out? I don't know

46:20

Yeah, but even no matter no matter how

46:22

ecumenical they try to make it at the

46:24

end It's still usually Jesus's name that is

46:26

making the demon scream and turn into fart

46:28

dust and fly Him

46:35

again, he's gonna tell me more of his stories Meanwhile

46:39

nurse and out is looking after

46:42

Ann playing a character named and which I love

46:44

and also like it's nice when I and dad

46:46

shows up like I feel I'm like I'm in

46:48

good hands here. She's yeah got this So

46:51

she she gets she's looking after

46:53

Angela who wakes up demon style

46:56

and begins terrorizing her making allusions

46:58

to a Previous

47:00

pregnancy and abortion and then there's a scene

47:02

where blood is spreading out all over her

47:05

her sheets And

47:08

then and out goes and talks to Victor and

47:10

is like yo this girl's possessed She knew stuff

47:12

that nobody else knew I was

47:14

gonna be a nun at one point She knew

47:16

my name is a nun which I never told

47:18

anybody else This girl is hella possessed and I

47:20

mean that pun very much intended very much intended

47:23

So Victor decides to start doing his own research

47:25

just like Dan And

47:28

he immediately finds a bunch of

47:30

news stories about Chris McNeil the

47:33

mother from the Exorcist

47:37

Learns a little bit about her history and

47:39

he breaks her into the movie. He tracks

47:42

her down So

47:45

he yeah, he shows up to Chris

47:48

McNeil's home Ellen Berson's home probably not her actual home. I'm guessing

47:50

it's the care No, no, I think that she wanted to the

47:52

role so little that she said if I'm gonna be in this

47:54

movie You have to come to my house to shoot it. I

47:56

don't even want to leave my house This

47:59

is so the story behind Ellen Burstyn being this movie

48:01

is apparently she said I don't want to be in

48:03

this and so they doubled her the money they offered

48:05

and She it was all she's like okay. I can

48:07

donate this to a college I think for it to

48:09

endow a fellowship But she she said something that I

48:11

read in the trivia section that was about like that

48:14

She was like it felt like the devil was testing my

48:16

price when they were negotiating with me this movie Do

48:19

you also read the trivia about William

48:21

Friedkin? Yeah Apparently

48:25

William Friedkin was like yeah the guy who made

48:27

pineapple Express is gonna ruin my best movie Notoriously

48:31

chill dude William Friedkin So

48:35

Victor talks to Chris McNeil who Explained

48:38

some stuff about like she's you know She's

48:41

not a priest or an exorcist, but she

48:43

studied all this stuff and that she thinks

48:45

she can be So

48:48

they they joined. She also mentions that

48:50

her daughter Reagan and her have lost lost touch with

48:52

each other It's been a year since they last talked.

48:54

I think I think for this trilogy to work We're

48:56

gonna need a big reveal at the end. Let's find

48:58

out so What happens

49:01

live yeah, they join forces and

49:03

head back to Victor's hometown Where

49:06

they go to visit Angela who is in

49:08

like full-on demon mode at this point crawling

49:10

all over the walls being extra scary There's

49:14

no yeah, they're like oh we can't do anything with that

49:16

so they It's like we're

49:18

not sure if it's if it's a medical problem or

49:20

not and meanwhile she has like Devil

49:22

face like she looks like a demon has taken over

49:24

her body She didn't look like herself you know so

49:26

they and they have to they go to try and

49:28

find Catherine But Catherine's family is taking her home out

49:31

of the hospital So they go to the home and

49:33

we're like oh this is gonna be a problem Cuz

49:35

like the family's like cowering in the kitchen.

49:38

They're terrified of this demon girl running around

49:40

the house How what how what is

49:42

it about getting people together in a house?

49:45

You've got us you've got a girl who's possessed by

49:47

the devil in another room You've got the refreshments are

49:49

all in the living room everyone still always ends up

49:51

in the kitchen They always end up gathering

49:53

a cowering in the kitchen. You're like guys There's a whole

49:55

house that we can have be afraid of the demon girl

49:57

in no they just want to hang out in the kitchen

50:00

I'm hanging in the kitchen. That's, I mean, that's, that's,

50:02

I think that's a little bit of human nature. What do you think, Dan? Uh,

50:05

yeah. Well, I mean, you're, I throw the chips. It

50:07

is true. It is. The

50:10

last time Audrey and I had a party, we're like, we'll put

50:12

a bunch of food in this central

50:14

room away from the kitchen to lure

50:16

everyone away. No one, no, they go

50:18

to the kitchen. Yeah. So

50:21

like, Hey, I brought this bowl of chips back into the

50:23

kitchen. Uh, what if I eat them

50:25

here? Yeah. But the

50:27

only way to get, keep them away from your kitchen. The

50:29

room is to have a legendary comic book publisher, Dennis kitchen

50:32

in your apartment at your party. And people just follow

50:34

him around. Okay. So again,

50:36

they find the, they find the family cowering

50:39

in the kitchen. Chris follows

50:41

the demon girl upstairs. This is

50:44

where we get this loving scene,

50:46

a touching tribute to great actor.

50:50

Yeah. They're really making the best of

50:52

Ellen Burstin really treating her with where,

50:54

where she has a conversation with the,

50:56

uh, with the demon before it climbs

50:58

up on her and stabs her eyes

51:00

out with a cross. Yes. Not

51:03

outside of scatman brothers in

51:06

the shining rarely has there been

51:08

a character set up to like, come in to

51:10

help out and dispatched immediately from. Yeah. There's,

51:12

there's like two of those moments. There's another

51:14

one coming up, but this one was particularly

51:17

rough. Cause you're like, you guys feel when

51:19

you watch this. Yeah. She just got here.

51:21

This is the big star from

51:23

the first movie. Did you also feel as I

51:25

did that it was a huge disrespect? Like it

51:27

was like, like, if you, like if you, if,

51:30

uh, if it's like if scatman brothers had been the

51:32

star of the shining one and they bring them back

51:34

for shining four and then just chop them in the

51:36

stomach with an ax. And just put

51:38

them on, yeah. Come off a cliff. Yeah.

51:40

Like they do, they're doing like Godfather six.

51:42

It's a reboot of the Godfather franchise. They

51:44

bring in Al Pacino and then whoever's playing

51:46

the new Godfather just pees on him in

51:49

a scene. Godfather

51:52

Calvin. Yeah,

51:56

no, that's a, that's yeah. That's wild. The,

51:58

I want, like. It'd be one thing

52:00

if like we read up on Ellen Burst and she's

52:03

like no I'm just really into makeup effects, and I

52:05

thought it'd be awesome if my eyeballs If

52:08

she was like she was like Harrison

52:10

Ford with Star Wars, and she's like

52:13

I'm just tired of being in these movies You know

52:15

I'll only do it if you blind the character

52:18

I think my guess is that I wouldn't be

52:21

surprised if an earlier version of the script had

52:23

more of her in it And then this is

52:25

just me theorizing and then she said you have

52:27

me for three days And they said oh, okay.

52:29

I guess we got to move up her her

52:31

mutilation scene earlier in the film. That's my guess

52:33

I don't know okay, so they

52:36

you know they they again at

52:38

this point Katherine gets taken away

52:41

They're worried that like I guess her

52:44

parents are concerned that she's what gonna get In

52:47

trouble or something I would imagine well this might be

52:49

on her permanent record that she had a devil inside

52:51

her She's tabulating the eyes yeah, yeah Cornell

52:57

so just are you? Devil

52:59

inside huh every single one of us devil

53:01

inside She's like every one of us your

53:04

honor yeah a band

53:06

what a band right hold on wait Let me go

53:08

into my closet. Where's my blue dress? Yeah,

53:14

it's the devil inside medley now Okay,

53:18

I was gonna double be in Your

53:21

guy guess once he went down there. Yeah, he did

53:23

go down there. He was in Georgia. That's true. Yeah

53:26

Meanwhile father maddox a devil in

53:28

disguise cuz she looks like an angel.

53:31

She's the devil in disguise Game

53:39

on okay, so father

53:41

Maddox applies

53:43

to the Catholic Church for an exorcism

53:46

and fails to get a permit a

53:48

denied They're

53:52

basically like the church's insurance can't handle the

53:54

liability of an exorcism Yeah,

53:56

that's that's the problem with the Catholic Church

53:58

right now Okay. And

54:01

then Victor goes to Chris to apologize

54:03

for getting her eyes knocked out. I

54:07

gotta say she had, she takes this,

54:09

uh, pretty well. Like she, she's

54:12

like in pretty good spirits. She's like, I knew

54:14

the risk going in. It's okay. She's

54:16

like them, you know, that's what happened. Anyway,

54:20

once they get my robot eyes and they're like, uh,

54:26

those eyes were crying and they've seen a lot of love,

54:28

but they never seen another like you like me.

54:30

Are we in love right now? Yes, we are in love. Did

54:32

you not know that that's the only reason I came to your

54:34

house to help you with your daughter is that I'm in love

54:37

with you. Oh, this is awkward. I'm

54:39

kind of still not over my wife yet.

54:41

It's been years. Leslie Odom Jr. It's like,

54:43

yeah. So

54:46

she, and she, she gives us like monologue

54:48

about how people all over the world are

54:50

doing exercises. You just got to get everybody

54:52

together. Uh, and so she

54:55

convinced them like, you just got to

54:57

do your own exorcism family style. Yeah. The

55:01

book that says it takes a village to exercise

55:03

a child. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh,

55:05

the whole, the whole gang shows

55:07

up, uh, a whole gang

55:09

shows up at Victor's house. You got Victor,

55:11

you got Stewart, you got Dr. Be hot.

55:13

You got, uh, I think the priest from

55:15

the church, the priest shows up eventually later.

55:17

First he shows up and he's like, Hey,

55:19

you shouldn't do this. And Ann is like,

55:21

I was a nun for a minute. I

55:23

can do this. And then later he comes

55:25

back. Yeah. And then, and Catherine's parents show

55:27

up and they bring an older guy with

55:29

them. Is that their, that's

55:31

their pastor. Yeah. That's their pastor from

55:33

their church. Yeah. And they, they, uh,

55:36

they make a little summoning circle and

55:38

they, uh, tie the girls into chairs,

55:40

uh, in the middle of it. And they

55:42

hook them both up to like heart rate

55:44

monitors. And we see that both their heart

55:46

hearts are beating at the exact same time.

55:48

It's like they're, they're one body. Yeah. Um,

55:51

the priest shows up, he delivers the bad news and

55:53

then he goes and sits out in his car and

55:55

praise and I don't know, like some McDonald's or something.

55:58

He's on a stakeout. He's on a, on a. or a priest's

56:00

stake out of the exorcist. Okay,

56:02

exorcism begins. We start with.

56:04

Round one. Yeah, round one.

56:06

Nurse Anne starts reading some

56:09

Bible stuff and it doesn't

56:11

really work. The demons like

56:14

doing scary stuff and then they

56:16

bring up her abortion again and

56:18

she gets a little bit shook.

56:21

We learned some of the rules here is that they

56:23

can't touch the kids while this whole thing's going on.

56:25

Makes sense because they're demons. They

56:28

take a little bit of a break and

56:30

then Dr. Bahibe comes back and

56:32

trips Holy Water on them and

56:34

that seems to work because they

56:36

start barfing out vapor clouds out

56:38

of their mouths. Yeah, Vicks, Vapo,

56:40

demon. And then somehow magic smoke

56:42

from the fireplace and

56:47

the vapor getting a

56:49

fight or something. It's kind of weird. To

56:52

be honest, I couldn't quite follow what was going

56:54

on. But the characters

56:56

really seem to understand. The characters really

56:58

seem to understand what's happening. Yeah, something's

57:01

happening. The demon offers the

57:03

parents a choice. If

57:05

they pick one of the girls, that

57:07

one will survive, the other one will die. Have

57:10

you talked about the revelation that the

57:12

demon makes about Victor's choice years earlier?

57:15

Oh, we haven't mentioned that, but we can

57:17

explain that. The demon, he reveals

57:20

that Victor, years

57:22

ago in Haiti when the man said, we can save

57:24

your wife or your daughter and we assume he chose

57:26

his daughter because that's who's alive right now. The

57:29

demon reveals that Victor did not choose his daughter.

57:31

He said, keep my wife alive, but it

57:33

didn't work. Or the doctors

57:35

didn't listen to him. And instead, Angela survived

57:38

and the wife did not. And so this is

57:40

seen, I think the demon is trying to break

57:42

their bond and shame him that that was a

57:44

pre-birth betrayal, I guess, his daughter,

57:47

Angela. But the weird thing is,

57:49

I don't think Stuart will

57:51

be mad that I jump ahead a little bit to

57:53

make this point. The weird thing

57:55

is like- Are you jumping to the credits after the movie?

57:57

Well, no, so. Let

58:00

me quickly say the you know

58:02

the other family like the Norbert Lear real

58:04

butts loses faith or whatever And

58:07

he's like I want to save my kid

58:09

You know like the the community is broken

58:11

much so the consternation of his wife played

58:13

by Jennifer Nettles Grammy winning singer Which

58:16

leads to the demon? Taking

58:18

that kid like ha ha ha ha I'm taking the one

58:20

that you say you want to save and leave the other

58:22

one behind and like a weird Like

58:25

reversal of like the wisdom of Solomon or

58:27

something But I Here's

58:31

my problem with a lot of the stuff in the

58:33

movie Thematically like

58:35

I guess the idea is

58:37

that his journey is

58:39

that he's getting his faith back and that's

58:42

the important thing He doesn't break and like

58:44

choose one kid over the other But

58:47

in the context of the movie it also

58:49

plays like well He didn't want the

58:51

kid the first time around he wanted his wife

58:53

And now the way to save his kid is

58:55

by rejecting her a second time and not saying

58:58

no I want you Like I guess

59:00

that's true. I think quiet kind of a weird.

59:02

I think they didn't Know

59:05

I mean I think I think that's one of

59:07

the I I would argue I think that's one

59:10

of the issues with the with David Gordon Green's

59:12

Halloween movies Is that there's a lot of things

59:14

in there that don't feel like? They

59:17

don't they don't feel all the way thought

59:19

through They like they might

59:21

make sense in the immediate moment, but like

59:23

on the whole doesn't make I think this

59:26

movie was Re-shot

59:28

a lot from what I understand. It was very like

59:30

taken away from him, so I don't

59:32

lay this necessarily You're

59:35

probably right. It's very possible I'm the

59:37

it's if it is internally inconsistent that the

59:40

lesson is supposed to be We

59:42

have to say unified the only way to stay safe is

59:44

to say unified We have to be and

59:46

and the dead breaks it the other dead breaks it

59:48

But that yeah, he has to save

59:50

his daughter by once again refusing to save her

59:53

although maybe although Dan Maybe that ties into he's

59:55

too much of a helicopter parent earlier now. Yeah,

59:57

you know what I got a lot of baby

1:00:00

You mean of levels for yourself? Sometimes

1:00:02

I think those messages last ah, you

1:00:04

need a you need to like rejects,

1:00:06

say be your child and more. Don't.

1:00:08

Listen to deeds it's we're obviously later

1:00:10

lines you. But the funny thing about

1:00:12

that too is like. In

1:00:15

a once someone does make the choice

1:00:17

the demons or like. Well.

1:00:19

I'm bound to take the other one because I've

1:00:21

been trolling you like I've been about. will take

1:00:24

the one that you're saying the want to say

1:00:26

because I've been thoroughly you and I'm a trickster.

1:00:28

But then that means that I'm going to let

1:00:30

the a third year old girl who I guess

1:00:32

I asked for we take one what we rather

1:00:34

than just being like I mean every minute of

1:00:36

able to kids was too much. They weren't that

1:00:38

ability that much you know? Yeah and the as

1:00:40

as of in the summit's yeah. we did jump

1:00:42

ahead slightly. Ah miss him In a Some has

1:00:44

one of the one of the more fun scenes

1:00:46

in gotta mid exorcism. They're like this doesn't seem

1:00:48

to be working all of. A sudden the door

1:00:50

burst open. Father Maddox, his lawyer has stuck

1:00:53

with efforts says I'm going to do an

1:00:55

exorcism. He walks in season. agree that Socialize

1:00:57

Sicily Up and Lesbian Alliance yeah do Not

1:00:59

love and that ah I see That's when

1:01:01

we know that A for them they're not

1:01:03

Levin it there and the puts his hands

1:01:05

on their foreheads is written those words they're

1:01:07

flipping out. All of a sudden they start

1:01:09

twisting their next his neck starts whistling what

1:01:11

what What is nicht with all the way

1:01:13

around me dies worked at the head of

1:01:15

for they snap is that from the inside

1:01:17

and it's It's one of the things that

1:01:19

feels like oh right yes as the exorcist

1:01:21

is all about like head turns I saw

1:01:23

the and handle a way around yeah well

1:01:25

as another murder cool at Weed Seeds like

1:01:27

it's as if that effect is very fun.

1:01:29

It's a physical moments I wish it was

1:01:31

one a few moments the movie where it

1:01:33

was like oh this movie is coming alive

1:01:35

for i'm I'm in Cincinnati kind of like

1:01:37

Wilde but it is. It does feel like

1:01:39

hey remember this from the first sexist litter

1:01:41

head turns around world that to there's another

1:01:43

moment I forget the exact line but were

1:01:45

one of the demons like. says.

1:01:48

Alive in the first movie to a room full

1:01:50

of people that were not there for the initial

1:01:52

events. So I'm like. What? Is the

1:01:54

sassy call back for uses for for her?

1:01:56

Have no idea who have seen their successes.

1:01:59

only. So. Yeah,

1:02:01

after the after the priests. Yeah. and it's like

1:02:03

that moment in that second Star Trek today. Recently

1:02:05

read those my name is Khan and I wanted

1:02:08

the characters be like. Okay was

1:02:10

a time like what does everyone have we

1:02:12

met a physicist this list for your thoughts

1:02:14

that was can do at understand how are

1:02:16

you gone less. Ah yeah how

1:02:18

is it C O n like your account

1:02:20

manager seem british so that's a little confused

1:02:22

the yet like you like are you willing

1:02:24

to share com the tiger from the Jungle

1:02:26

book that the weird your person i think

1:02:29

it's a maybe or tiger man like one

1:02:31

that as in you know there's a cat

1:02:33

people but still. Yep.

1:02:35

or the Her com Emirates Trading Alliance

1:02:37

and Twilight. Yet the anti Know any

1:02:39

other fictional cat people not from the

1:02:41

movie? Have people don't say that we

1:02:43

have to either. Sleepwalkers from the phone?

1:02:45

Sleep on the border? Illegally correct technically

1:02:48

cat people you gotta he said a.

1:02:52

While and put that on the board and the can be

1:02:54

dame. Okay, I got a bright one

1:02:56

of the Boars. Yeah, you're in, you're on

1:02:58

the board. So this is where Vic tries

1:03:00

to make our victor. Tries to make a

1:03:02

play or to get in on the action.

1:03:04

He takes the scarf ah, the his wife's

1:03:06

scarf and wraps around Angeles. Next. Ah,

1:03:09

Doesn't seem to really work. At

1:03:11

this point Tony this were Tony

1:03:13

chooses his own daughter to save.

1:03:16

He. Just says are you. Are.

1:03:18

At which point and it's a lesser extent

1:03:20

I just kept. Catches are a little pulled

1:03:22

the ball yup yup. Ah. excellent source of

1:03:25

float up in the air. ah and it

1:03:27

was last. Arvs like and blood vortex of

1:03:29

on the ceilings. civil and it's like all

1:03:31

Seattle like vomit. It was so silly this

1:03:34

party and the a said be scary but

1:03:36

supercilious Bmc gives her dad dislike crazy, head

1:03:38

butted throws them across the room, them it

1:03:40

slides, it's it was That was pretty cool

1:03:43

again and reynolds the for this one gives

1:03:45

a that scarf. He has also think there's

1:03:47

also been reciting. the lord's prayer he has

1:03:49

got his faith back which understandably if you're

1:03:51

like on a believe in god and then

1:03:54

the devil possesses your daughter and the only

1:03:56

thing that seems to stoppers him he tries

1:03:58

names that i await your faith the other

1:04:00

one thing anymore. It's been proved. The easiest

1:04:03

way to get your faith back. I would

1:04:05

jump on that so hard. I'd be like,

1:04:07

okay. I mean, it's not even faith at

1:04:09

that point. Cause you're like, yeah, that's a

1:04:11

proven thing that's happened. Yeah. This is no

1:04:14

longer on faith and God's like, Oh shit.

1:04:16

I screwed it up. I was supposed to

1:04:18

be faith. I think this means you're not

1:04:20

saved. Sorry. Uh, what if you

1:04:22

just erase the memory of what happened for my mind

1:04:24

so I can regain my faith. Hey, can't do it.

1:04:26

That would be fudson with the rules. I'm on the

1:04:28

board. I can't get, they'd take me off the board if I

1:04:31

did that, you know, so Angela

1:04:33

collapses on the ground. She flat

1:04:35

lines and we're like Tony, what

1:04:37

did you do? But then, and

1:04:39

his daughter Catherine seems to recover,

1:04:41

but then we get some like flashbacks to

1:04:44

the moment when, uh, her

1:04:46

mother was getting her belly blessed. And then

1:04:48

there's like a switch of Rooney and Catherine

1:04:51

flat lines and Angela wakes up. Is

1:04:53

that the implication that she, she wasn't,

1:04:56

she had extra help. She wasn't bad.

1:04:58

No, I don't know. Like the first

1:05:00

baptism in utero. Yeah.

1:05:02

She had double reverse anti-possession. I

1:05:04

don't know. Yeah. Yeah. She, she

1:05:06

had the uno reverse

1:05:08

card on

1:05:10

her soul. Holding it and reserve

1:05:12

jokes on you. You have to

1:05:15

draw for wild. No, that's the

1:05:17

worst. Uh,

1:05:19

that's because at that point you're like, well,

1:05:21

Mash do is riding high on the

1:05:23

horse and all of a sudden he's

1:05:25

got a handful of cards. And that's

1:05:27

just like, well, I've got every card

1:05:29

except green. At least he wants a

1:05:31

green. And he goes green. Oh, I've

1:05:34

got to keep drawing the card. No,

1:05:36

no, no. Okay. Uh, the

1:05:38

victory. Yeah. So Angela recovers

1:05:40

and, uh, Dr.

1:05:43

Bahibe reaches over and snuffs

1:05:45

out one of two candles.

1:05:48

What? How meaningful. Uh,

1:05:50

everyone, uh, everyone tries to move on with

1:05:52

their lives. Uh, and then in a, uh,

1:05:56

in a, what a convalescence room, uh, Chris,

1:05:59

Uh, is. Sitting there and she is

1:06:02

ah visited by her daughter Reagan

1:06:04

from the first movie was Luna

1:06:06

Moyer suits and of movie sums

1:06:09

up from the the know was

1:06:11

a Savage Streets as. Of.

1:06:13

We never saw a man. Directors is believer.

1:06:16

Yeah. So there's two hundred and

1:06:18

two kinds of believing in this Sylvester. He

1:06:20

regains his save, he becomes a believer. And.

1:06:24

Also. Like there's

1:06:26

an avid are. My only opposite is only. Yes,

1:06:28

unemployed, Chris Mcneil has become like

1:06:31

the ultimate Believer Like see believes

1:06:33

in all religions because they're all

1:06:35

about demon fighting, but also. I

1:06:38

guess like. Reagan at the End

1:06:40

is now believer in like the need to have

1:06:42

relationship with their mothers As a lot of really

1:06:44

going on this the title makes sense that I'm

1:06:46

saying it's a great title. Yeah is this at

1:06:48

this last seen by the Hood. It

1:06:51

comes to the end of a bunch of crap

1:06:53

and the movie doesn't earn it but it's weird

1:06:55

how effective way he can be just as own

1:06:57

levels like oh yeah the back of the same

1:07:00

room together? that's nice. Yeah what was the scene

1:07:02

that that affected me the most and dial of

1:07:04

destiny and movies I thought was fairly mediocre at

1:07:06

the very end when it's Harrison Ford and Turn

1:07:09

Our Back in the Samaria you know that it's

1:07:11

like oh I like them and other movie and

1:07:13

it's a like that they had to spend time

1:07:15

together and other day you know for my amusements

1:07:17

to fitness know I've the puppet master, a satellite.

1:07:20

Ominous. Sign demand you get back

1:07:23

together Fictional characters who yes you were

1:07:25

reunited once in another movie. I'm a

1:07:27

while ago when I kind of forgot

1:07:29

that happens, that one was pretty weeks.

1:07:31

Yeah, so I marginally better one. I'm

1:07:35

okay, so the the angriest believer sort of it.

1:07:37

So this was mostly the first movie in a

1:07:39

trilogy I don't have. they're making the other two

1:07:41

because I believe they are because I think there

1:07:44

can literally sit at the library and get out

1:07:46

as a mate least spent I was reading about

1:07:48

it's. The right to make the the

1:07:50

series was like four hundred million dollars or

1:07:52

something like that for the distribution rights us

1:07:54

to. Yeah, and this movie did not do

1:07:56

that well. Within wasn't a huge failure. isn't

1:07:58

a level of the I. The reverse should

1:08:00

be the third one in the series.

1:08:03

I'll be like said like the Exorcist

1:08:05

Apostate and then like the Exorcist conversion

1:08:07

and on of the as just believers.

1:08:09

I think the next one is Exorcist

1:08:11

Deceiver. Oh yeah Oh flashed on Dreamer

1:08:13

Deceiver. Or. Death to Seaver as

1:08:15

the great Tucson Duel for just

1:08:17

yeah I I. Because.

1:08:19

Of international a money's and such

1:08:22

like this movie did well. Actually,

1:08:24

this is a thirty minute million

1:08:26

budget. It. Made one hundred and thirty

1:08:28

seven million. So. It. It

1:08:31

was a big return on investment despite

1:08:33

being not of production A but then

1:08:35

again that doesn't cover passing costs were

1:08:37

just the cost of the distribution rights

1:08:39

which were set. or I understand but.

1:08:42

That. You know, thirty to one hundred thirty like

1:08:44

someone's bacon and of money off of the

1:08:46

students. Up. On. This theory that like

1:08:48

they when they made those distribution rights ah

1:08:50

they made a purchase I'm assuming they have

1:08:53

a day at factored in that there was

1:08:55

can be three movies to be unsafe. think

1:08:57

that's fair. Ah edit the right to Sievers

1:08:59

the second one. All it seems that has

1:09:01

been removed from the schedule so far and.

1:09:04

I. Wonder if the servants gonna be like damn. The.

1:09:06

Excesses reaver. He

1:09:10

ah well do ya Receiver

1:09:12

over. The

1:09:15

Exorcist de Veau. I mean if you

1:09:17

have like that like a certain accent

1:09:19

than it than that it's rhymes. Ah

1:09:21

the Exorcist John Seaver. Of know,

1:09:24

Ah, Well see ya around with the

1:09:27

and you prefer a little as thirty

1:09:29

three I believe her answer. This makes

1:09:31

Lever A either as a beaver that's

1:09:33

when this been possessed by the so

1:09:35

full of excesses Dream Weaver the yeah

1:09:37

yeah the excesses leave or two thousand

1:09:39

yeah now maybe the great okay oh

1:09:41

is the part where we. The. Element

1:09:43

was Steve Earle assesses. Of

1:09:47

say that doesn't slant I'm at best.

1:09:51

A sweater we do a rendering final

1:09:53

The Exorcist Tivo is the third movie

1:09:55

and the ability a to empathize with

1:09:57

with as he must be obsessed with.

1:10:00

Everly labeling his testicles to his leg. No,

1:10:02

actually, this is just what he does kind

1:10:04

of my thing. Is.

1:10:06

Is a good bad movie? a bad bad

1:10:09

movie? Or movies? And like. I'm.

1:10:11

Going to say that you know for the first. Thirty.

1:10:13

Minutes it wasn't I. Thought.

1:10:15

It was great, but I'm like, oh, this movies a lot

1:10:18

better than I was led to believe. And. Then

1:10:20

it took a steep nosedive and I will

1:10:22

say it's just bad bad. Ah

1:10:24

stewart! Ah,

1:10:26

Yeah, I mean I think we've talked about

1:10:28

a lot of of the flaws of the

1:10:30

movie. I I feel like for the most

1:10:32

part I. Like can

1:10:34

like L A and I have a

1:10:37

little bit of trouble doing these like

1:10:39

Demon possession movies because they so often

1:10:41

rely on. Like. A. And

1:10:44

acceptance of a Judeo Christian

1:10:46

Bullshit. Arm which is you know

1:10:48

it's er, it's er. it's A. It's a

1:10:51

hard hurdle for me to clear I. I

1:10:53

mean I wish it had been a little

1:10:55

more fun. I mean I feel like I

1:10:57

like like Evil Dead senior. When.

1:10:59

Evil Lurks and that kind of gross

1:11:01

out and possession in the first Exorcist

1:11:04

movie which is a very somber and

1:11:06

like. Seattle. Is moving. Lollies has on

1:11:08

parts and parts that are wild and like when audiences

1:11:10

went to see if they didn't walk out. Dylan. Ah,

1:11:14

Ah, Yes, sense that was a somber rough

1:11:17

experience they walked out on like did

1:11:19

you see that Well because he says

1:11:21

it's kind of your on movie delights

1:11:23

and this is doesn't have that yeah

1:11:25

or but also that movie and pretty

1:11:27

of the time was truly transgressive and

1:11:29

had some. Horrifying thing yes

1:11:31

I'd sailed to be doing him

1:11:33

saying about of may serve religiously

1:11:35

all these are you in this

1:11:37

movie. Is not even touch

1:11:40

like the idea of being. Transgressive.

1:11:43

In any way, like this is a. Bog. Standard

1:11:45

were movie Yup. I think that's what

1:11:47

it is for me it's it feels as very and it

1:11:49

wouldn't be so it doesn't surprise me if it's if it's

1:11:51

true that it was gonna taken away and and we did

1:11:53

our i guess it feels like a. and ironically

1:11:56

for movie his message is all about how

1:11:58

it tastes a group working together to Save

1:12:01

a child it feels like it's kind of a

1:12:03

committee made horror movie where it's not a lot

1:12:05

of real vision or excitement behind it so it's

1:12:08

a You know it's kind of

1:12:10

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1:12:12

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1:12:15

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1:12:17

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1:12:20

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1:18:18

Hey, now it's time to answer some

1:18:20

letters from listeners. Listeners

1:18:23

like you, this first

1:18:25

letter. If you like sending us

1:18:28

letters and having us tell

1:18:30

you stuff, if you

1:18:32

like asking us questions, cause

1:18:34

one question's not enough, then

1:18:37

maybe send down a letter by

1:18:40

the mail or the internet and

1:18:44

we'll answer it someday. If

1:18:46

we haven't gotten to it yet. Okay.

1:18:50

That's a, that's a song about somebody writing

1:18:52

a letter to a podcast that they like

1:18:54

because they think their partner doesn't like that

1:18:56

podcast. Yeah, exactly. Their partner wrote the same

1:18:59

type of letter is that podcast. Oh

1:19:02

yeah. That's that's so Henry's gift of the podcast.

1:19:06

Uh, this is from Brad last name

1:19:08

withheld who writes bread lander. I was

1:19:10

in Barcelona for my 40th birthday and

1:19:12

I took a run along the beach while

1:19:14

listening to the peaches discuss kangaroo Jack, the

1:19:17

old beach beach. Yeah. During

1:19:19

the podcast, Elliot brought up

1:19:21

blue by Eiffel 65, which I probably hadn't

1:19:25

thought about for over a decade. The

1:19:28

next day I was in the Picasso museum and when

1:19:31

I stepped into the room showcasing his blue period,

1:19:33

that song was instantly stuck in my head. The

1:19:35

same song you listened to when he was painting

1:19:37

those. That's why he did it that way. My

1:19:40

first thought was you did

1:19:42

this, Elliot. You did this. Thanks

1:19:45

for all the wonderful podcasts. That's

1:19:47

from Brad. You're welcome. I will actually tell

1:19:49

a true story from my life, which is

1:19:51

that just the day before yesterday, I was

1:19:54

with my older son, Samuel

1:19:56

at a Cub Scout thing where people had to wear

1:19:58

different color vests and there's. okay what else are you

1:20:00

in some of that i'm blue and that was all

1:20:02

over hassle this as it is only. I

1:20:05

applaud your self restraint that you didn't say

1:20:07

that bloodied abu die when the guys that

1:20:09

I'm blue and seems like I didn't even

1:20:11

think about that and it's like it's It's

1:20:13

the first thing I thought of the first.

1:20:15

They are you. even my son subsidiaries. Ah.

1:20:18

Well. You're

1:20:20

welcome. Welcome around Era.

1:20:24

Borderline. Now these songs of the

1:20:26

Fast lane. Bora well his

1:20:28

cell ago he knows all your

1:20:30

line. Purple people eater you know?

1:20:32

Hello brother was I mean about

1:20:34

about aliens of different colors? yeah

1:20:37

I guess. Ah. This.

1:20:39

You have all the novelty songs and he

1:20:41

picked the wrong and account or example stand

1:20:43

brought received but they were the wrong receipts

1:20:45

and he could not return the item. Gerzema.

1:20:48

The Gun the song about a bikini. That.

1:20:50

Was it's a bit see a nun and

1:20:52

also had his colors. It's also about good

1:20:54

objects colored an all boys but now I

1:20:56

wish both as had spoken word in friends.

1:20:59

With. Let me tell you about

1:21:01

a story about a bikini this

1:21:03

the team yellow with polka dots.

1:21:05

On at a lot of a saw it was

1:21:08

like one of key nice and in the process

1:21:10

occurs video like L a R and that they

1:21:12

buy a. Story

1:21:15

about a guy was purple. Any

1:21:17

some flyers, buddy or eve purple

1:21:19

people? It's not quite clear, but.

1:21:21

Anyway, the thing is he wants to be in

1:21:23

a band. Now the song. Yeah.

1:21:26

The of as far as the careful that. Are.

1:21:31

Now. That your adequately prepared for the

1:21:33

song as a now that we've made

1:21:35

it so you won't have surprises. This.

1:21:39

A when are worried that your heart might be

1:21:41

too weak to take a song premise you're not

1:21:43

prepared for. Very

1:21:46

thoughtful. Earth married this one. Now

1:21:48

use a story about a san

1:21:50

man who is answering he was

1:21:52

affair and now the sandman gonna

1:21:54

answer. So when I say. Exit

1:21:56

like an answer night. You know it's the

1:21:59

Sandman is entering. in. You're

1:22:01

also bringing up a song that basically has a spoken word

1:22:03

section in the middle. I mean, they're

1:22:05

just saying, you know, just brand a break from

1:22:07

the song. The song was

1:22:09

rocking too hard. We were worried about you. We got

1:22:11

a break. Yeah. You gotta,

1:22:13

you need a rest to have some

1:22:16

orange slices and yeah. It's so dehydrated

1:22:18

from all that rock. All

1:22:23

that head banging is just shaking the sweat right out of your

1:22:25

head. You need to replenish it. Him

1:22:28

last name withheld. Let's see. Kim

1:22:30

Riecker. Yeah, probably. Hey

1:22:33

Peaches, I started listening to your podcast in

1:22:35

2015, but dropped off in 2017. Now

1:22:39

I'm listening again in 2023. So

1:22:41

what did I miss? What

1:22:44

did I miss? What did I

1:22:46

miss? Not one of Leslie Odom's songs on that show,

1:22:48

but he's in that show. Yeah. That's

1:22:50

one of Daveed Diggs's songs. I don't know, man.

1:22:53

What did we miss? Oh, there was a COVID

1:22:55

thingy. We talked, we did some

1:22:57

stuff during that. We do a lot of

1:22:59

minis now. They're pretty good. Pretty

1:23:03

hilarious. We covered the first

1:23:05

of the Rogue Moon movies and I think that catches

1:23:07

us up. Rebel Moon, which I'm glad

1:23:09

they made such an impression that you got the

1:23:11

name right. Oh yeah. The Rogue Moon, I

1:23:14

think is a novel. That old Rebel

1:23:16

Moon. Yep. Well, you're gonna

1:23:18

see, I got married, I got remarried somewhere

1:23:20

in there. That's true. Oh yeah. That's

1:23:22

true. We worked various

1:23:24

jobs. There's

1:23:27

a strike. We did a strike. Dan,

1:23:29

my union went on strike. That's true.

1:23:32

I got like super buffed. Yeah, super

1:23:34

buffed. Yeah, super buffed up, super

1:23:36

buffed. Yeah. He's got

1:23:38

soul. Yeah. Yeah. So,

1:23:41

Elliot probably had like four more babies or something.

1:23:45

Look at trad male, Kaitlyn over here. My

1:23:47

wife and I had another litter of children. Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:51

I feel like that's not going to be

1:23:53

Elliot's next line of work is trad male

1:23:55

influencer who's like talks about

1:23:57

how the ideal situation is like living.

1:24:00

out a farm and making like raising

1:24:02

cows and making all your own food.

1:24:04

And I don't know. I

1:24:06

don't think I'd do very well at it. Yeah. Uh,

1:24:09

that's like, when you said treadmill, I thought you

1:24:11

said, yeah, I thought you said. I

1:24:13

thought you said, we said treadmill. And I was like, I didn't get one of those.

1:24:16

I thought you said trans male, like a Trando Shan, like box.

1:24:18

And I was like, I could be, I could be a boss.

1:24:20

Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I meant. Yeah. That's what I

1:24:22

said. What if the TV show boss was about boss? I

1:24:28

guarantee you there is somebody has already

1:24:30

fucking made a, like a mashup poster

1:24:32

and sells it as a t-shirt. Yeah.

1:24:34

I guarantee you no question. Yeah. And

1:24:36

that's some, and some, some Star Wars

1:24:38

fan bought it for their dad who loves the

1:24:40

box and he's like, I guess I'll wear

1:24:42

this. You're dead. Like, what the hell

1:24:44

is this? I don't understand. I

1:24:46

buy all my clothes at Costco. So I

1:24:49

guess I can wear this non Kirkland shirt.

1:24:51

I was, I was tickled by

1:24:53

Eric Zuckersberg shirt. You made me. I

1:24:57

enjoyed a recent Josh Donald and tweet, which is

1:24:59

about his dad trying to explain a

1:25:01

TV show to him by saying it

1:25:03

was kind of like Bosch, but not

1:25:06

that, but kind of not like Bosch and

1:25:09

turn out the show was justified and I'm like,

1:25:12

I guess that's true. It's a fair description.

1:25:14

Yeah. It's kind of like Bosch and they're

1:25:17

both, you know, detective shows.

1:25:20

And feature. And not like Bosch. Ed

1:25:23

Wood alums. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's,

1:25:25

it's the bill. So if you're looking

1:25:27

for a show that kind of like Bosch, but not

1:25:30

like Bosch, take that

1:25:32

justify screaming now. Um,

1:25:35

Hey, this is the part of the show where

1:25:37

we recommend movies that are a better use of

1:25:39

your time than what we do. Sorry. Okay.

1:25:42

Yeah. Movies for the,

1:25:44

um, while we were

1:25:46

on the road, this is an

1:25:49

appropriate recommendation tour from our, from our

1:25:51

errors, West coast tour, which we should mention. We should have mentioned

1:25:53

this at the top. Maybe, uh, actually, you know what? This episode

1:25:55

is going to come out, even though recording this before a minute,

1:25:58

it's going to come out after a minute. So during the. the

1:26:00

mini, let's talk about how, how great our tour

1:26:02

went now. Reverse planning.

1:26:04

Let's do it. I'm Dan. I can't help

1:26:06

it that I have my mentor syndrome. Uh,

1:26:09

anyway, what I was saying is, um,

1:26:12

appropriate to this, uh, this podcast,

1:26:15

I will recommend a William

1:26:18

Friedkin movie that I saw

1:26:20

on the road. We had one night off and

1:26:22

I was like, what am I going to do

1:26:24

with that night off? I'm going to

1:26:26

go to the movies. How could I best appreciate

1:26:29

the nightlife of Los Angeles? I know I'll

1:26:31

go to a movie theater. To be fair,

1:26:33

we were both, uh,

1:26:35

located in not so beautiful downtown

1:26:37

LA. Wow.

1:26:40

I was, I'm making no friends today. Uh, I

1:26:42

don't think anyone who lives in Los Angeles is

1:26:44

going to argue with me about this. No, no,

1:26:46

it's yeah. I mean, downtown is the place to

1:26:48

go if you want to try out a new

1:26:50

restaurant, but to get there, you have to walk

1:26:52

down a block that smells like human feces. Yeah.

1:26:54

And I didn't, you know, I didn't want to

1:26:56

hop in a cab and go

1:26:58

somewhere far away, which is what you got

1:27:01

to go do in LA, but six minutes

1:27:03

away from where we were staying. Lo and

1:27:05

behold, they're, they're playing sorcerer, uh, the

1:27:08

William Friedkin movie that I had never seen. I've

1:27:10

never seen sorcerer and I

1:27:12

had been waiting to see it on the

1:27:14

big screen. And there's a couple of screenings

1:27:17

that I couldn't go to. I

1:27:21

was like, I keep missing my chance and I

1:27:24

finally saw it on the road. Did I almost

1:27:26

fall asleep towards the end because

1:27:28

we had been doing a grueling tour schedule. Yes.

1:27:30

But I stayed awake

1:27:32

and I really enjoyed it. I would say

1:27:34

that the wages of fear, which,

1:27:37

uh, sorcerers based on the same

1:27:39

source material, although taking it in

1:27:41

a very different way, the wages of

1:27:43

fear. One of my favorite movies, you

1:27:46

know, I think that if you feel the need to, you

1:27:49

know, compare them, I still like wages of fears

1:27:51

approach a little bit better, but

1:27:54

man, sorcerer is good. It's a, it,

1:27:56

it haunted me afterwards. It has some.

1:28:00

Just very frightening set pieces

1:28:02

in it. Uh, Roy Scheider

1:28:04

is so good at being both like tough

1:28:06

and like sensitive. You can

1:28:08

see how his, you know, mind is

1:28:11

falling apart over this grueling

1:28:13

experience. All the other actors

1:28:15

are tremendously, uh,

1:28:17

compelling, um, tangerine dream, of

1:28:19

course, to the score. I can go wrong.

1:28:23

Uh, so I don't know

1:28:26

if you're a film buff and not like me somehow

1:28:29

It's great. Dan,

1:28:32

did you answer that? Did you get the answer to the question

1:28:34

of whether androids dream of electric tangerines? I

1:28:38

did not. I did not. I forgot

1:28:40

to say, I assumed that was answered in an

1:28:42

end credit sequence. Yeah.

1:28:46

So I'm going to recommend a, uh,

1:28:49

musical. I'm going to recommend Dick's

1:28:51

the musical. Uh, I don't think we've

1:28:53

recommended that one yet. Uh, it is a,

1:28:55

it is based on the sporting goods store. Um,

1:29:00

these balls got to stock them

1:29:02

up at Dick's sports. It's a

1:29:04

very silly queer musical, uh, about

1:29:10

two, uh, long lost

1:29:12

twin brothers who meet while working

1:29:14

at the same job selling

1:29:17

basically widgets. Uh, and they're working

1:29:19

for Megan the stallion and they

1:29:21

decide to get their mother

1:29:23

and father to get back together.

1:29:26

And there, uh, a, what I

1:29:29

was not expecting were, uh, the

1:29:32

prominently featured puppet sewer

1:29:34

boy monsters that take up a large portion

1:29:36

of the plot of this movie. These two

1:29:39

little monster guys and they are great. And

1:29:41

it is the hardest I've laughed at a

1:29:43

movie in years. I would imagine. Uh,

1:29:46

it is such a silly thing. And,

1:29:48

uh, it is, it's

1:29:50

one of those movies. It's a movie where

1:29:52

I'm like desperately hoping just regular, regular old

1:29:55

Megan the stallion fans are like, Oh, what's this

1:29:57

movie? I'll watch it. And then be like. Have

1:30:00

their minds blown by the range of this

1:30:02

thing is yeah, i've heard great things.

1:30:04

I really want it's really funny Uh,

1:30:07

I so we're talking about the exorcist so I

1:30:09

wanted to recommend a horror movie So

1:30:11

i'm recommending a movie called carrie. Not

1:30:13

the one you're thinking of this is

1:30:16

kerry thing We just both

1:30:18

recommend movies with let's say horror elements in

1:30:20

them. So I think we're on brand here.

1:30:22

Ellie. You don't have to say So

1:30:24

we'll see so this is kerry from 1952

1:30:26

directed by william weiler It's

1:30:29

an adaptation of the novel sister kerry by

1:30:31

theododrizer and it's about the horror of Needing

1:30:34

money and how you live in a system

1:30:36

where if you don't have money your dreams

1:30:39

are unattainable And if you choose love over

1:30:41

money, you will suffer for it. And so

1:30:43

it's the story of a young woman kerry

1:30:45

meber She leaves her small town and goes

1:30:47

to chicago and along the way, uh

1:30:51

Becomes the girlfriend live-in girlfriend of a salesman

1:30:53

who will not marry her He's just too too

1:30:55

happy with his life and his his freedom, but

1:30:57

she falls in love with a restaurant

1:31:00

mader d Uh named herstwood was

1:31:02

played by lawrence olivier the carrie meber is played by

1:31:04

jennifer jones And it kind

1:31:06

of becomes lawrence olivier's movie from that

1:31:08

point on where he becomes he falls

1:31:11

in love with kerry But he

1:31:13

has a wife. He has a family and he has this

1:31:16

Ostensibly, you know lucrative respectable

1:31:18

job as the mader g at a very

1:31:20

respectable restaurant And he puts all that at

1:31:22

risk for his love of kerry and as

1:31:24

and he pays for it dramatically

1:31:27

as his life falls apart and

1:31:29

it is a It's funny because they

1:31:31

kind of they made the ending in the movie

1:31:33

a little bit slightly more positive than the ending

1:31:35

of the book But it's still pretty grim. I

1:31:37

mean the book has a very grim ending but

1:31:39

the It still feels like

1:31:41

a very grim kind of like jetter alive the

1:31:44

takashi mieke movie exactly. Yeah Which

1:31:46

is also based on a theater drizer novel.

1:31:48

Yeah, I think that's based on jenny guhart.

1:31:50

Yeah, um the uh But

1:31:52

it's a uh, it's it's still a it's

1:31:54

a real uh bracing movie It's a movie

1:31:56

where characters continue to have life smack them

1:31:58

in the face over and over And the

1:32:01

ending is still fairly rough even

1:32:03

though it's sentimental. And it's from 1952,

1:32:05

and I wonder if it was

1:32:07

taken at the time for the way

1:32:09

I was taking it, which was very much a

1:32:11

movie about, like I'm saying, the need for money

1:32:14

and how if you don't have money, if you're

1:32:16

not well off, if you're not stable

1:32:18

in that way, you cannot have the things

1:32:20

in life that other people desire or sometimes

1:32:22

take for granted. And I

1:32:25

found it very powerful in that way. So

1:32:27

that's Carrie. Not the Carrie about the telekinetic

1:32:29

girl. That's also a good movie, but it's

1:32:31

a different movie called Carrie. Wow, we

1:32:33

did it. I don't know. So that's pretty complex.

1:32:35

I'll just watch the telekinetic girl one. I mean,

1:32:37

if anything, the plot – so this is about

1:32:39

a man who falls in love with a woman

1:32:41

and it wrecks his life. Carrie, the telekinetic, is

1:32:44

a movie about a girl who, upon

1:32:46

puberty, she has superpowers. I'm saying it's

1:32:48

too hard for my brain to fathom that there's another

1:32:50

movie named Carrie, so I'm just going to watch one

1:32:52

of those. Oh, I see. Hey,

1:32:56

this podcast is on the

1:32:58

Maximum Fun Podcasting Network. We're

1:33:01

getting ready to gear up

1:33:03

for Max Fun Drive. They've got a lot

1:33:05

of great shows over there. Why don't

1:33:07

you check out maximumfun.org? Check

1:33:11

some of those out. Thank

1:33:13

you to our producer, Alex Smith, who

1:33:15

goes by HowlDawdy on the internet,

1:33:19

and he does a lot of great

1:33:21

work of his own podcast music. Check

1:33:23

that out. And

1:33:25

if you have the time and the

1:33:27

inclination, leave us

1:33:30

5-star review on iTunes maybe.

1:33:33

Leave us a 5-star review. A

1:33:36

definite article would help that sentence out. And

1:33:38

if you don't have the information – Please don't take

1:33:40

off a star for that. Maybe

1:33:42

do it. I'll be leaving 5-1-star

1:33:44

reviews, Dan. It'd be the straw

1:33:46

man. It's

1:33:49

the lamashto. If

1:33:54

you don't like the show, don't put the energy

1:33:56

into trying to take us down. Really, what's the

1:33:58

point? Yeah. What's

1:34:00

the point? Where did that live? What would

1:34:02

be the point? Why would you do that?

1:34:04

YOLO, you know? We're such small peaches. Why

1:34:07

would you take us down? Yeah. Yeah. We're

1:34:09

little peaches. We can't defend ourselves. We're fuzzy

1:34:11

and washed. Yeah, we'll get smooshed. But

1:34:14

you know what? This has been The

1:34:16

Flophouse, and for The Flophouse, I've been Dan

1:34:18

McCoy. Hey, I've been Stuart Wellington. I'm

1:34:21

Elliot Kalin. Okay,

1:34:24

bye. But did you expect another song? It's

1:34:26

another Imagine Dragons reference? Why did that take

1:34:28

everybody a surprise? Come on. Hi.

1:34:36

I've got a bad one. Can I try

1:34:38

this bad one? Yeah, of course you can.

1:34:40

On this episode, we discuss The Exorcist Believer.

1:34:43

You made me Exorcist

1:34:46

and Exorcist. That's

1:34:50

a hot song. That's a popular song now

1:34:52

or was it two years ago? A long

1:34:54

time ago at this point. But it's

1:34:57

still terrible. Imagine Dragons? Hey,

1:35:00

Dan. Dan, Imagine Dragons. Okay,

1:35:02

I'm having a better time than listening to

1:35:05

the music.