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When you are 90, you rarely talk about what
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you did. You always talk about what you didn't do.
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If you are lucky enough and if you want to
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get inspired to spend just a little time with a
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75 to 90 year old that
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you don't know and you listen, what she
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or he will talk about is what they
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didn't do. I should have married Ricky Thompson.
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I wish I did something different in my career.
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The thing that impacted me as a workaholic and
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someone who's really ambitious, I wish I spent more
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time with my kids. That hit me hard. You
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were not born for a long time and you're
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gonna be dead forever. The
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moments we have here are small.
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And you're gonna be a great
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example. The
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art skills were the things that I focused
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on and I think our society has focused
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on for a very, very, very long time.
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The IQ of it all, the grades of
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it all. In athletics, the
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speed, the strength, the math, which
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is amazing because it's a major part of our world.
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And for me, that was work ethic.
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Like, you know, since I was 14,
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spending 12 hours a day in my dad's liquor
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store in Springfield, New Jersey, not too far away,
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was just how I grew up. I worked every
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weekend. I worked every summer vacation.
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My parents were gangsters. I don't know
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if you guys remember, but the last
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day of school, starting around middle
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school, was a half a day. My
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parents used to pick me up at that half a day and bring
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me to the store so I could work the end of the second
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day. They didn't even give me that half day. It
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was work ethic. And I always understood that that
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would do something. But as I'd gone through the
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journeys of my career, other
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things started to become obvious to me, which
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was these things are going well for me.
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And yes, I'm working hard, and yes, I'm
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doing the thing, but I
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have a feeling a lot of this is
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coming from the things that I was also
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gifted, predominantly for my mother, which are the
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soft skills. The things that
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we did not grow. How many people here by show
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of hands are over 40?
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Raise your hands. Amazing. The majority
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of the room. Let's clap it up for some of
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the youngsters in here. So
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what some of the youngsters in
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here definitely don't realize is for the
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over 40 year old crowd in here, we
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didn't talk about empathy. We
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didn't talk about some of these
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softer traits in hard
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places. We
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didn't talk about that in business. This
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guy's finish last was
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a thing that a lot of us grew up
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hearing and something in the last 15 years clicked
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for me where I just didn't believe that to
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be true. I didn't believe it to
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be true because I'm nice and
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I'm going to finish first. And
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I would watch others and I started
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realizing actually a lot of people that
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had ridiculous talent who
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weren't nice were actually losing a lot more than
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they could be winning. It
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seemingly looked good. Back to
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being a big sports fan, they were winning at
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halftime. They were up
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21-0 because they had that edge, those sharp
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elbows. But something became very clear to me
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that there was a lot of other parts
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of the formula to get to
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the highest level and more importantly, and
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I know this matters to a lot of people in this room, if
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you were going to lead, if
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you were going to be a leader and obviously there's
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leadership in business. I'm a CEO of
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2000 employees. Obviously
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there's leadership in services,
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whether it's military, police, fire, that's
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obvious. But every
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person in here will taste
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leadership in their entire lives.
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It will happen. You're either an
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older sibling. I
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would argue that most of my
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leadership was ingrained in to me
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by being the oldest of
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two siblings, especially growing up in
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the 80s in an immigrant household. It was
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different. You took care of them. Back
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to the youngsters not knowing, this is crazy, I'm about to
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tell you something, back in the day, we used to
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go outside and play. And
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our parents had no idea what we were doing. By
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the time I was seven in
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Edison, New Jersey, I was
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outside nine hours a day and my mom had no
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clue what I was doing. And
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what I knew at seven was I
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had to take care of my four year old
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sister and you start learning those things. But
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then even if you don't have the serendipity
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of being the oldest, you will
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lead because many people will
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taste the beauty of being a parent. You
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wanna talk about real leadership? You wanna talk about
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real fear? You want to
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lead because that person
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that you gave birth to is the person you love more
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than anybody in the world. And so as
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I started looking at the world over
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the last 15 years, I like to
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think, I like to observe, I like watching people.
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It started getting obvious to me that these
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softer skills mattered. But here's
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where some of these skills kick in. I was giving a
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lot of thought to like, what do I wanna talk about? Couple
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things. In the framework of the room we're
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in, one thing I think a lot about
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is empathy, right? Empathy's a funny
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word. It wasn't really talked about, like I
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said earlier, for just not a we've
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been a word I heard in the first 20, 25 years of
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my life. It's
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starting to pop up a little bit here, but I
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think it's very much misunderstood. You
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know, empathy oftentimes
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comes from a place of like
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feeling compassion for the other person, having
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feelings for them. And I think it makes
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sense when you're a leader to have empathy
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for the people that you are managing or
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leading. But I think for
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happiness, for lack of anxiety,
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for joy, for the journey
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that I want for every person in this room, one
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of the things to really think about is having
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empathy for the person above you. One
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of the things that I've seen bring
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enormous happiness to many
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people in my organizations, the companies I
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invest in, the companies that I
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run, and then just organizations,
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sports organizations, service organizations,
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is when you in this room let's
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just do a for instance. When
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you're working on something as an engineer here,
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right? Or if this is. on something and you're working
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on it for seven years and
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you've got it finally working in real life, not
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in the lab. And
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then on a one hour's notice, on
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a one second's notice, we're
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shifting strategy and you're no
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longer doing that. There's enormous
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frustration. You're in
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the trenches and somebody in a
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board room is making a call and
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you're frustrated. I
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think about that a lot. Why? Because
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I think that's the exact moment where
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if the people in this room deployed
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empathy to the people above them,
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if you think about being frustrated with your manager or your
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leader, or their leader's leader, or
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their leader's leader, I don't know if you've
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heard, but everyone's got a boss. And
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the guys in this room really know what I'm talking about. Everybody's
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got a boss. No
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matter what your position looks like. And
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so I think about, when
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I come to a talk, whether
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the room is this way, that way,
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left, right, business, startup, entrepreneurs, high schools,
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military, it's all the same thing for me
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up here right this second. Can I say
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one thing? That one person
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in this room has not heard in that
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way that makes them actually act
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on it to make their life better, period.
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I know the framework
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of a lot of people's professional careers in
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this room. And I know
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that disproportionately, the quickest way for them
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to get happier day to day is
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to actually put them in the boots, or
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the shoes, or the sneakers of
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the people above them, parallel to
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them, and below them. Below
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them comes natural. Below
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them comes natural, there's a sense of like,
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okay, this person's reporting to, that comes natural.
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Not everyone's good at it, we all know
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that. But that comes a little more
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natural. But above
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you, or six
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rungs above you, that
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comes hard, because you think they should
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be. working for you, which is true. One
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of the reasons everything has worked for
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me professionally is every morning I wake
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up, including today, on a groggy day on
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the East Coast, I wake
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up and say, I work for those 2,000 people
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globally, not the other way around. True
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leadership is only based on that.
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Humility. I don't care how many
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things you have on your thing. Do
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you have the humility to know that
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you work for them? Easy to do
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it for the flag, because it's
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theory. It's not a human being. When
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it becomes human, it gets harder. It
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becomes more real, right? All
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of a sudden you have to care on
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an individual basis, and you all know this.
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Every person left, right, below you
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is different. The
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ones that come easy to you that are like you is easy.
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But the accountability to deal with
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what's hard is the
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game leadership. I
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see this all the time. There's a lot of people who've gone through the
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journey of doing the craft, and
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then elevating up, and then having
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to manage the people doing the craft.
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That's a tough transition for a lot of people. It's
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a lot harder. A lot of
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people think, I didn't sign up for this. For
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example, in my industry, I have all these
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people that run media. MIT
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math kids out to Wazoo. They
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love their headphones and their work.
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They come to me when they get promoted, like, wait a minute, I
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don't wanna talk to Sally about her being sad. I'm
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here to run media. I'm like, you're
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not. You're not.
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And so I get the
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transition of getting into feelings. And
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boy, do we love to judge once we become
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a leader. Back to the over
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40 year old crowd, versus some of the people under 25.
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We love to judge Gen Z. I
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just wanna remind all the people, my favorite thing going on,
10:02
side track real quick, I'll just go over here for a
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second. My number one favorite conversation
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in the world right now is
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Boomers, all
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frustrated and angry at Gen Z, when
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they're the ones who created them. I
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had somebody complaining hard the other day about his son, I'm
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like, maybe if you didn't give him an eighth place
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trophy, he wouldn't be entitled. Yeah,
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I really hate eighth place trophies. I
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don't even like the silver and bronze medal, I think you
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should leave that shit when they give it to you right
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on the desk. But
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that's another story for another day. Listen,
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if you leave here with anything
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this morning, and I wanna do a lot of Q&A,
10:47
all yap here, but I really wanna get into the
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details of these philosophies, these are
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not just words to me, accountability. To
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me, I'm not here to
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do anything other than to make somebody happier
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for the rest of their lives. I can
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promise you right now, the fastest way for
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every person here, and I'm talking whether you're
11:05
dealing with something professionally right now, whether
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you're dealing something with a loved one, leisure,
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friendship, life, life. The
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quickest way to be dramatically
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happier the second you walk out of here, is
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to fall in love with accountability. This
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is a very interesting framework. Do
11:25
you need me? Accountability,
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I'm ready. This
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is really interesting, and I'm gonna say this slow,
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because I get worried, because sometimes this screws people
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up and actually makes them upset
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with themselves. This is very
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subtle, I'm gonna go. Accountability.
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If somehow you can get into a place
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in your mind, where
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you realize everything you're unhappy about,
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right this second, is 100% your fault. Without,
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without you then judging and beating yourself
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up and thinking you suck and having.
12:00
insecurity, let me say it again, if
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you can wake up tomorrow, and
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whether you're upset in your marriage,
12:07
if you're disappointed with your child, if
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you're not happy with your career, if
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you don't have enough money, like whatever
12:15
it is, if you can
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go 100% into accountability, you
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will be stunned how quickly
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your life will turn around. The
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trick that I'm trying to figure
12:27
out how to communicate better is what
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I've noticed when I've been on this rant for
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a decade of like everything that you're upset about
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is 100% your fault, I didn't realize
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how many people were so deeply insecure that
12:38
that path puts them into a place where they're
12:40
beating themselves up. The reason the
12:42
world right now is pointing so many
12:44
fingers is because everyone's judging themselves.
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You wanna really get going? Give
12:50
yourself a break. Love
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yourself a little bit more. Be
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a little bit nicer to yourself. There's not
12:56
a human in this room, a
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human in this room that hasn't made
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a ton of mistakes. We
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have so demonized a misstep or
13:06
a loss. Back to eighth place trophies exist
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because we didn't want our kids to cry
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when they lost. The only
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reason I'm standing here is I cried after
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I lost my entire childhood. We
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have to be nicer to ourselves, but I'm
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telling you right now, if
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you can get out of the finger pointing business
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and get into the thumbs business, your
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life will be dramatically better. Like
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dramatically, because here's the problem.
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The reason everyone's on angst, the
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reason everyone's so challenged is
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because when you point fingers, you've
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just admitted that you're not in control. Period.
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That accountability is
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such a powerful drug and it is something
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we have lost our way with. We
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just have. We need to get there.
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You can't tell me anything. You
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can come up here and fully explain why
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it's not working. and I can look you dead right
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here with your current job and I can say, quit. You
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could. You are
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in control. Unlike where I
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and my parents were born, you're born in a place
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where you can quit and you can change
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your career. You can move. You can do
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anything. And the second you start understanding
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that truth is the second everything opens
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up. Another
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thing I've been thinking a ton about which
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is how do you balance these traits
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that were in the book? How do you balance
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confidence with humility?
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Really hard. Similar to what I just talked about
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which is like be fully accountable but don't
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beat yourself up. Another
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thing to think about is the power
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of humility. There's a lot of people in
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here winning and rising. Unfortunately
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as people win and rise, they
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sometimes get a little high on their own supply. They
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get a little bit frothy and
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think they're a little special. They
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start to lose, you like that one? There's
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some people feeling it out there. I
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like how some people are looking at each other. There's
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such a danger in losing your relationship
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with humility. There's such a
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danger. I'm a very public figure. I have
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tens and tens and tens of millions of followers
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across social media. Every time I post,
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I get unlimited people that
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leave a comment of a
15:24
goat emoji that I'm the
15:26
greatest of all time. I
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also have many people that say, you suck,
15:30
you're a charlatan, who do you think you
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are? Every post. Lot
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of my friends who've gone through this journey with
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me, other people who've got a lot of awareness
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out there, many people quit along the way. They
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can't deal with the negative comments. Many
15:45
of you don't post anymore because you just don't
15:47
want to deal with negativity. Many
15:49
of you have not started posting about some of
15:51
your interest. The devils who play my Rangers in
15:53
this playoff series, they caught that logo.
15:57
Many of you have not even started your journey.
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because you're scared of the judgment. One
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of the reasons that I can continue to
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do what I do publicly is
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because every time someone says nice things to me,
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I can't hear them. Every
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goad emoji I get does not register. What's
16:15
important about that is if you can't hear
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them cheering, you can't
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hear them booing. Too
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many of us, right in
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this room right now, in our personal and professional
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lives, are doing
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things and acting predominantly
16:30
based on the opinions of
16:32
others. The amount of human
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beings that are living life
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today, worrying about
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the opinions of people that they
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don't even like is
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devastating. And by the
16:45
way, those people that you don't like aren't
16:48
anonymous people in the comments. They're
16:51
your coworkers, they're your siblings,
16:54
they're your parents. You
16:57
know it's hard, it's the truth. The
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reality is this though, I
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think a lot about this every day. You
17:05
were not born for a long time. And
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you're gonna be dead forever. The
17:13
moments we have here are small.
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One thing I would recommend everyone in this room
17:19
to do as an action is to
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spend a lot more time with 80 to
17:24
100 year olds that are not your family members.
17:27
If anyone here can find the
17:29
luxury of maybe living close to a retirement
17:32
home and providing some service to
17:34
it, maybe you have a neighbor, for
17:37
me, given how busy I am, I usually do
17:39
it when I'm traveling. If I get
17:41
lucky enough to sit with somebody or at the
17:43
gate at the airport if I find a good
17:46
90 year old that looks like Yoda, I'll roll
17:48
up on him. Start
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just talking. The
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thing all of you would realize
17:56
if you, I mean this is really important. People
17:59
love talking about like. living a fulfilled life, service, this
18:01
and that. There's so many little things we can do.
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Like if you close your eyes right now and think about,
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do I have a neighbor 80 to 100, 75 to 100 next door? The
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answer is many do. Like just
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doing something nice, like bringing something over, flowers,
18:15
cake, you know, stuff that we used to
18:17
do. You know, but you're
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doing it for selfish reasons. Yeah,
18:21
you're being selfless and doing something kind and I
18:23
promise you, and I think this
18:25
will land with a lot of people, boy, there's an
18:27
83 year old that's living by
18:29
themselves in an apartment complex, really
18:32
appreciate someone coming over, ringing the doorbell and
18:34
saying what's up and giving them, you know,
18:36
some flowers or a cake or something, but
18:38
you're not being selfless. You're
18:41
being selfless and selfish. What
18:43
you're looking to do is build that relationship because
18:45
let me promise you one thing. If
18:48
you start spending your time with somebody
18:50
that's actually lived life, 85, 87, and
18:53
is not carrying the baggage because
18:56
they want to actually like razz your mother or
18:59
tell you what your dad's doing wrong. You know,
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that grandparent life is a little different. There's
19:03
baggage there. You need a neutral third
19:06
party 86 year old in your life. You're
19:10
gonna learn something real powerful that I'd like to
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talk about right now, which is I live
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my life every day completely
19:17
based on what I've learned from them, which is the
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following. When you are 90, you
19:21
rarely talk about what you did. You
19:24
always talk about what you didn't do. If
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you are lucky enough and if you want to
19:29
get inspired to spend just a little time, six
19:32
hours, 10 hours this year, with
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a 75 to 90 year old
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that you don't know and
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you listen and you talk, what
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she or he will talk about is what they
19:45
didn't do. I
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should have married Ricky Thompson. I
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wish, and this is a big one, I
19:54
wish I did something different in my career. You
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know, the thing that impacted me as a workaholic and
19:59
someone who's, really ambitious, I wish I
20:01
spent more time with my kids. That hit
20:03
me hard when I started doing this in my 30s,
20:07
40s, that was like, I'm like, that's the one, that's
20:09
my danger. That's my
20:11
danger and it shifted me. It
20:13
shifted me. So I ask
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all of you, whether you're a youngster, whether
20:18
you're in the first quarter or entering the fourth quarter
20:20
or anywhere in between, it's
20:22
never too late to get better. It's
20:25
never too late to fight for more happiness,
20:27
ever. It's never a
20:29
bad idea. I watch so many of my
20:31
friends at 50, 60, just
20:33
wrapping it up, they're like, Gary, all the stuff you talk
20:36
about, I'm done. I'm like, done what? You're
20:39
gonna live to 90. You're 56, you're
20:41
gonna live another 40 years. You're done?
20:45
Should never be done. Should never be done
20:47
to not regret. You should never be done to be
20:50
happier. Something I wanna touch
20:52
on that I knew I wanted to touch on here. It
20:55
was my biggest emotional vulnerability,
20:57
professionally, which was candor. A
21:00
lot of you here, one of the
21:02
biggest thing in this environment that people struggle with
21:04
is candor. Some of you, like
21:07
me, don't wanna deliver candor because
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you don't wanna hurt people's feelings. You're
21:11
actually non-confrontational. You really love the
21:13
person that you're about to talk to that
21:15
stinks at something and you don't wanna say
21:17
it. And you're like, I used
21:19
to dance like a ballerina. I
21:22
would dance. I had something to say to somebody.
21:26
for 45 minutes like I'm Fred Astaire.
21:28
I would dance, dance
21:31
and never get to it. And
21:33
what did that do for me over 20 years? It
21:35
led to me having very awkward firings and all sorts.
21:37
When I think back to any person, the tens of
21:40
thousands of people that have worked for me for the
21:42
last 30 years, the only ones,
21:44
the only ones, the 100
21:46
people that most don't like me,
21:49
all same issue. I wasn't able
21:51
to be candorous with them and
21:53
I manipulated it in my own mind of like, they
21:55
should be happy that they're still here because they stink
21:58
and how does Johnny not see that he stinks? I
22:00
shouldn't have to tell him, I should have told him. Because
22:04
I didn't do any favors. The problem
22:06
was my whole childhood and my whole
22:08
early upbringing, anybody that was
22:10
in my life that was good at candor was
22:13
horrible at delivering it. The
22:15
candor was delivered in venom. And
22:18
I wasn't able to take the vehicle that the
22:20
candor was being delivered in
22:22
separate from the value of candor. So
22:26
what I did was, what I always do, in
22:28
the world I market and I brand, when
22:31
I realized how big of a vulnerability this
22:33
was for me, I branded myself. I
22:36
created a word and a structure for me to help
22:38
me. And that's how I came up
22:40
with kind candor. When I tell
22:42
you, for a lot of leaders in here, for
22:45
the organizations in the back, for the organizations in
22:47
the front, and for everybody in between, including again,
22:50
the thing I believe, which is a lot of
22:52
these things are impacting your relationships in your real
22:54
life, not just your professional life,
22:57
I highly recommend people, especially
23:00
the ones that are DNA wise
23:02
similar to me, who struggle with telling
23:04
people the truth when they're disappointed in
23:07
them, you must find
23:09
a way to get down the path of candor. Candor
23:12
has led to, the lack of candor has led
23:14
to every negative thing that's ever happened in my
23:16
life, singly. That's how big of a deal this
23:18
is. So I impose,
23:20
I pray, I push all
23:22
of you to realize how big of a deal this
23:24
is, but here's
23:27
why candor scares me. There
23:29
are many people in this room as managers who
23:31
use candor as an excuse to
23:34
be nasty, to
23:36
razz, to manipulate. And
23:39
so it's a very, very, very dangerous thing.
23:41
I'm just being candorous with you to help you.
23:48
You know, Gary, I'm just keeping
23:50
it real. I'm like, yeah, real negative, real
23:54
manipulative. Candor
23:56
is a tricky one, but if you can
23:58
understand the kindness part. All
24:00
of you know this. You've either been on the
24:02
receiving end or you've been the deliverer
24:04
of a message and you know when
24:06
it didn't land. You're like, damn, that did not go the way
24:09
I wanted to. It is always
24:11
because of your relationship with candor. No
24:13
question after watching this be the framework
24:15
of my companies getting the
24:18
feedback after the book's been out and just kind of watching, I
24:21
really believe in this concept of kind candor.
24:23
I really believe if you understand it, if
24:26
you can really deliver the challenging news with
24:28
a little honey instead of vinegar, if
24:31
you've really got the intent for that person to win, I
24:34
believe that kind candor really, really
24:36
matters. And I highly recommend
24:39
you start working on your relationship with candor.
24:41
When I tell you, when I think about competitiveness, 10
24:44
out of 10. Accountability, nine
24:46
out of 10. Patience,
24:49
this is a big one. I
24:51
crush patience. Everybody wants everything
24:54
now, which is why they don't get what they want. Patience,
24:57
10 out of 10. Kind
25:00
candor today, in front of you,
25:02
four out of 10. Literally
25:04
was a one out of 10 or two out of 10
25:06
three years ago. Four out of 10. Let
25:09
me just tell you how big of a deal this
25:11
is. From one out of 10 to four out of 10, it's
25:14
doubled my business. It's
25:16
made the closest relationships that I
25:18
have. My sister, my family,
25:22
three acts better. I
25:25
just know that candor is a big one.
25:27
I know that people really struggle with it
25:29
because it's a hardcore DNA trait. And
25:31
for the managers in here, leaders in here,
25:33
it's a tricky one because almost everybody is
25:36
either too red or too blue with it when
25:39
candor needs to be purple. You
25:42
understand? That's a big one. I
25:44
really hope that somebody leaves with that. I'm
25:46
gonna touch on patience before I go into Q and A. The
25:51
reason most people struggle with patience is
25:53
probably another massive thing
25:56
that's going on in this room professionally
25:58
and personally. Most people
26:00
want to accomplish things financially or
26:02
status wise to impress
26:05
other people and that is a huge vulnerability.
26:08
The keeping up with the Joneses or
26:11
how people judge them based on their
26:13
money, their accolades, their status is destroying
26:15
people. This goes back to 20 minutes
26:17
ago of trying to impress people
26:20
you don't even like, right?
26:22
So the lack of patience has
26:25
been one of the most obvious things unlike
26:27
candor. At 20, I already
26:29
understood it. You know,
26:32
I felt that I was gonna be a
26:34
great businessman but I spent 22 to 34
26:36
working for my dad's liquor store, building
26:39
his business for him. I built his
26:41
business from a four million to a
26:43
$70 million business and I never
26:45
got paid much money at all because it
26:48
was a family business and my dad's like, yo, what
26:50
do you complain about? It's a family business. When
26:52
I die, you'll get it. I'm like, dad, you
26:54
have great DNA. You're gonna die at 94. I'm
26:57
gonna be 72. I'm
27:00
trying to do work out here. Trying to make something happen.
27:03
And so, you know, but it
27:05
was my patience and my
27:08
deep ambition to do something great for my parents
27:10
who did great for me that allowed me
27:12
to know that even though at 34 I
27:14
barely had any money based especially on
27:16
my crazy ambitions, that I
27:19
would be able to get to it because life
27:21
is long because you can make things
27:23
happen. You can build brick by
27:25
brick and so patience
27:27
is hurting a lot of people here in a million
27:29
different ways. People are short cutting
27:32
to decisions, making decisions
27:34
on short term values versus long
27:36
term realities and I highly,
27:38
highly recommend a deeper falling in love
27:41
with patience. How are we doing Q&A? We've
27:43
got runners? Cool. I'm
27:45
gonna speak for a little bit more but I really want
27:47
people to start thinking about the question they wanna ask and
27:50
by the way, I know some of you may know me
27:52
and different, thrilled to talk about marketing. I think about
27:54
that quite a bit. Whatever
27:56
that may be and I think about marketing not
27:58
just like let's sell sneakers. and soda,
28:00
marketing is how the whole world works. Communication's
28:03
how the whole world works. You
28:05
may want to raise money to cure a disease
28:07
because your family's been affected by it. You may
28:10
want somebody to be the mayor of your town.
28:12
You may want a lot of things
28:14
happen. I don't think anyone here is
28:16
confused that marketing and communication dictates the
28:19
temperament and the decisions of human beings.
28:21
And so, couple just two
28:23
little things on that. First and foremost, if
28:25
you want something to happen in the world and you're
28:28
gonna be the one that is trying to make it
28:30
happen, and you
28:32
may have lots of opinions about social
28:34
media because everyone does now, it's
28:37
still the platform to make what you in
28:39
this room want to happen happen because
28:41
it's free. You're
28:43
more than welcome to buy television ads. Go pop
28:45
out $50,000 a spot, knock yourself out. You're
28:49
more than welcome to run an ad in the newspaper.
28:51
The problem is that 80 year old that's your friend
28:54
is the only one reading it. You're
28:57
more than welcome to have an opinion on TikTok,
28:59
China, this, and Mark Zuckerberg. You can
29:02
have any opinion you want, but
29:04
let me just say one thing in this room.
29:06
If you're gonna be a marketer, you
29:08
need to be agnostic. You need
29:10
to be unemotional. You need
29:12
to care about where the attention of society
29:15
is, period, end of story. The
29:17
biggest reason people are not good at marketing
29:19
or making something happen is they have an
29:21
ideology of what it should be. The
29:24
kids shouldn't be on these phones all the time.
29:26
They are. Just
29:29
to remind you, you are. And
29:31
so, on the marketing front, social will continue to
29:39
be the underpriced game and then something
29:42
else will come along. When I was
29:44
coming up in the game, it was email. Email
29:46
was new. Kids,
29:48
you wanna hear a good one? Lot of people in this room
29:50
really didn't want to have email. Some
29:53
people, I still have people I do work with
29:55
who have people print out the email for them
29:57
so they can read it to this day. I
30:02
just want to say one thing on technology and then we'll move into Q
30:04
and A. Please
30:06
stop fighting technology. Technology
30:09
is undefeated against your
30:11
opinions. I
30:14
understand you have an opinion about AI, good
30:17
news. AI doesn't care what your
30:19
opinion is, wrong. How
30:23
many, watch this, how many, I need people to
30:25
be honest, lying is the devil. By
30:29
show of hands and raise it high because usually people like
30:31
to do this on this question. By
30:33
show of hands, who in here was
30:35
this person? You had a Blackberry
30:38
and you loved it because it had all
30:40
the buttons and everything. And when
30:42
the iPhone came out you said, I'm never getting an
30:45
iPhone, it doesn't even have the buttons, my
30:47
Blackberry is good and now you have an
30:49
iPhone, raise your hand, hi. This,
30:54
those hands, and by the way, this is a pretty OG
30:56
crowd, I could go one generation
30:58
back. There were people rolling around the
31:00
world in the mid 90s with a
31:02
beeper. Who
31:05
said, I'm never getting a cell phone, my
31:07
beeper's more than, I don't need people to
31:09
call me any time they want. Let
31:12
them beep me and I'll
31:14
call them back. And
31:16
the amount of people in this room that said they would
31:18
never be on social media and now they spend all
31:20
their time on Facebook arguing with people. Humans
31:25
are horrible at this. People said they wouldn't get
31:27
the car, people said they wouldn't buy a television
31:30
because the radio was perfect. People
31:33
will always demonize tomorrow because
31:35
of fear. Humans
31:38
are scared. And
31:41
unfortunately, other humans figure that
31:43
out and weaponize it against us. And
31:45
I'm not talking about governments, though they're very good
31:47
at it. I'm talking
31:50
about school. I'm
31:52
talking about school telling you that if you get Ds
31:54
and Fs, you're gonna be a loser. Meanwhile,
31:57
does anybody realize how broken school is?
32:00
is in 2023? Does anybody have
32:02
children here from K to 12? Raise your hands. You
32:05
know how bad it is, right? We're
32:08
literally telling kids to memorize stuff
32:10
and regurgitate it when they have
32:12
literally the answers on their phone.
32:14
These kids are chat-GPTing the answer
32:17
to writing papers in one minute. And
32:20
I'm like, good. And
32:22
school's like, bad. For what? School
32:25
has broken us. I'm
32:27
being dead serious on this. And I'm not trying
32:29
to be mad at school. And
32:31
don't get confused. I believe that
32:33
education is the most important thing in the
32:35
world. I just think it should
32:38
be relevant to the world we actually live in. And
32:41
asking our children to spend 12 years of
32:43
their lives memorizing stuff and
32:45
then re-spitting it out every three
32:47
months is the most
32:49
asinine thing I've ever seen in a
32:51
world of the internet exists with the
32:53
answers to the question on their phone
32:55
at all times. These kids are disenchanted
32:58
because they're smart, not the reverse. So
33:02
that's just that. All right,
33:04
I think it's time for Q&A. Thank you for having me.
33:06
Thank you. Thank you. Thank
33:09
you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
33:11
you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
33:13
you. Thank you. All right. Let's
33:17
get into some real stuff. Those are the philosophies.
33:19
There's many others. Some of you have seen some of it,
33:21
read the books. But I'd love to go into Q&A. Let's
33:24
not be bashful. I know this goes, just raise your hand. Who's
33:26
got a question? Show me back there.
33:29
Gary, if you talk about how you deal with
33:31
failure with all your success, you've had to overcome
33:33
failure in the past. And second
33:35
question, if you could talk about where you see
33:37
AI playing in society's future
33:39
social area. Yeah, I'll go to
33:41
the second one. AI is gonna eat up everything. If
33:44
you leave, there's a lot of mental things we
33:46
talked about here as a practical thing. Every person
33:48
here, actually I'm gonna assume a
33:50
lot of this crowd has not gone into AI
33:52
yet. It's new. And I'm just, I'm
33:55
generalizing. But by show of hands,
33:57
how many people here have not played with an AI
33:59
app? or an AI website yet, like really
34:01
done AI work. Raise your hands if you haven't yet.
34:05
That's what I figured, so thank you. Please, please,
34:08
because a lot of the hands will remember this, you
34:11
not doing stuff with AI is just
34:13
like the thing you made fun of your parents for
34:15
not doing with the internet. This
34:18
is the internet 1992, it's that big, it's
34:20
not going away, and it will make your
34:23
life so much better. When you're in the
34:25
kitchen saying, hey Alexa, can you order me
34:27
food for two friends? One's lactose intolerant, order
34:29
now, and that saves you 18 minutes
34:31
of going to the website or calling or being on
34:33
your seamless app or Uber Eats. This
34:35
is gonna make your life better. Like everything, of
34:37
course there'll be some things that aren't good, but
34:40
there aren't some things that are good about everything. Nothing
34:43
has been, like alcohol has some
34:45
bad things. Right, a
34:47
car, like everything has bad and good.
34:50
Please don't do to AI what
34:52
you've done to everything else. It's gonna be a part
34:54
of our lives, so it's gonna affect, brother, it's gonna
34:56
affect everything. When I say everything,
34:59
everything. So the quicker you get used to it,
35:01
like the better your life will be, period, end
35:03
of story. As far
35:05
as failures, my man, I fail almost
35:08
every day. When you're an
35:10
entrepreneur, you're failing. I'm failing constantly. How
35:12
do I deal with it? By not giving a shit
35:14
what you think about my failures. Your
35:18
failures are your failures. The reason everyone
35:20
struggles with failures is because you actually
35:22
worry about someone's opinion of your failures.
35:24
If I lose, I'm
35:26
playing. You think
35:28
I care about somebody sitting in the stands watching
35:31
me play, saying you stink? You
35:33
stink, you're sitting. I'm playing.
35:38
I fail every day, I fail all the
35:40
time. The key is to make them micro
35:42
failures, not macro failures. See, people don't have
35:44
that definition down. I micro fail. If
35:47
I macro failed, I'd be out of business, I would
35:49
have a job, that's macro failing. I don't macro fail,
35:51
I don't take those kind of risks, I'm not too smart.
35:55
But micro failing, every day, I
35:57
hire someone, every day that ends up. It's
36:00
thinking. We have
36:02
a pitch, we don't win. I post something that should have
36:04
been great and it didn't. I'm losing
36:06
all the time. The key for everyone here
36:08
to get more comfortable with losing is
36:11
realizing they're valuing people in the
36:13
stands, judging them on
36:15
the court. You're
36:17
playing. You really care what somebody else is
36:20
telling you about how you're raising your child?
36:23
Get out of here. As
36:26
if they don't suck at parenting too. By
36:32
the way, this is the whole thing right now in America. We're
36:35
obsessed with telling everybody everything about everything they're
36:37
doing wrong without realizing how much we're doing
36:39
wrong. We are in judgment city.
36:42
We are in finger pointing city. I
36:45
deal with losing very easy. I just don't
36:47
care what anybody thinks about my losing. Definitely
36:49
not people I don't know and not even my
36:51
own parents. I want to make them
36:54
proud. I love them with
36:56
all my heart. I have no intent of losing.
36:59
But if you're living, you're losing. And
37:01
we have to get a lot more comfortable with losing. So
37:04
much of the depression and anxiety of
37:06
the youth today is not because of
37:08
social media. It's because we as parents
37:10
demonized losing. They're scared to lose.
37:15
And we have to start cheering for losing. Losing's
37:17
just part of the game. Name's Andre.
37:19
Andre, pleasure. Thank you for being here. I'm
37:22
glad to be here. I hope I'm not
37:24
alone in this, but how do folks either
37:26
discover or confirm what they were born
37:28
to do? I feel
37:30
like there's a couple things, but
37:32
how do you really discover it and then.
37:35
Hold on to the mic. When you say there's a
37:37
couple things, have you gone out and tasted and tried
37:39
to go for those couple things? Yes
37:41
and not fully but. That second
37:44
part, right? This half pregnant thing.
37:48
No really, it's a big thing in my mind. I'm really glad you
37:50
asked this question. I feel that people are trying, this all goes
37:52
back to the thing I've been talking about the whole time subtly.
37:55
Stop valuing other people's opinions. The
37:58
reason he said not fully is he. go all
38:00
the way because subconsciously there's a fear that
38:02
it's not gonna work out. Will this make
38:04
enough money to sustain my, most of the
38:06
reason people don't go for their dream is
38:09
because they don't think they'll make enough money
38:11
to sustain their life. Either their family's too
38:14
practical or they're insecure. There's too many variables.
38:17
My big thing is I don't, this is why I want you to
38:19
hang out Andre with a 90 year old. You'll
38:21
be more scared to not go for it after
38:23
hanging out with people that literally, when
38:25
I tell you, when you hang out with
38:28
the 80 to 100 year old set, all you
38:30
see in their face is regret. You
38:34
know, you'll see joy and happiness, but if you look,
38:37
if you look for what we're trying to learn from them
38:39
of like, what did you do that I can learn from?
38:41
It's all regret, brother. You will
38:43
be far more scared to wake up one day and
38:45
say, why didn't I go for being a piano
38:47
star? Why wasn't,
38:49
why didn't I try to be a standup comic?
38:52
You know, why didn't I move to
38:55
Sweden? Whatever it is, be a cook. Be
38:58
a professional video game player. Whatever it is, you will
39:01
be fearful of that so much more than
39:03
your sister or your uncle or your spouse
39:06
or your best friend laughing at you when
39:08
you stop doing what you're doing and you go for this thing.
39:11
I get, I'll give you a big
39:13
one. One thing I talk a ton about that, boy,
39:16
I can't find anyone talking about this, is if
39:18
you are in debt or if you're living
39:20
a life where you're like kind of never getting over the
39:23
hump, sell your home
39:25
and go rent a smaller home.
39:28
Sell your home and go live. The
39:31
amount of 35 year olds right now that
39:33
should sell their home or stop paying for
39:35
their apartment and move back in with their
39:37
parents is high. They can reset, save
39:39
some money, have some time with their
39:42
parents, which I know is like not everyone loves that,
39:44
but a lot of people would love that. A lot
39:46
of people do like their parents, I would love that,
39:48
but their pride won't let them do that because everybody
39:50
will judge them. You sold your house and now you
39:52
live with your parents, you're
39:55
a loser. As if that person is living,
39:57
this is the whole game. So
40:00
my man, the reason you're half pregnant is
40:03
something is stopping you from
40:05
doing it and I promise you that something is
40:08
judgment from others. And
40:10
so you already know what things you
40:12
want to do. Gary, I can't buy
40:14
my passion. Yes you can. Every one of
40:16
you can tell me what you love most. Mine's
40:19
the New York Jets. Right?
40:22
So what am I doing? I'm trying to build the biggest businesses in
40:24
the world so I can buy the Jets and finally win a
40:26
fucking Super Bowl. Thank you. Whoo! Thank
40:29
you. That's good. But
40:33
everyone here knows what they like. They're scared to
40:35
admit it. There's big ass dudes
40:37
in here that love ballet. They're scared to say
40:39
it. We
40:42
all know. I will never believe anyone
40:44
that says I don't know. No, no, you're scared
40:46
to admit. You're scared
40:48
to go for it. And so that's what I'm trying
40:50
to push for. Hi,
40:55
darling. Hey, there.
40:57
My name is Maryland Cuevas. I'm at
40:59
such a big time. Thank you, sweetie.
41:02
Thank you, sweetie. Let's talk about
41:04
fear, confronting fear and
41:07
resistance to change. There's a lot of
41:09
people that have the mentality of if
41:12
it's not broken, it's not fixed. Right.
41:15
We've been doing this forever. Let's not change it.
41:17
This is how we got here. Yep.
41:21
So when you want to bring something new and
41:24
to a leader or your manager, how
41:27
would you advise us to
41:30
approach that and also how
41:32
we face our fears? Thank
41:34
you. You're welcome. So the first one's really interesting.
41:36
I have this framework that work, and don't forget,
41:38
I have an agency that means we get hired
41:40
by companies and we're trying to tell them what
41:42
to do. None of our clients do the full
41:44
thing that I want them to do. They
41:47
still think running television commercials on network
41:50
TV is a better way for you
41:52
to buy something, which is just insane
41:54
to me. And
41:57
I tell my team all the time because they're very frustrated
41:59
because we're progressive. I'm like, look, everybody
42:01
makes the same mistake in the question you're making.
42:03
They're in the business of convincing. I'm
42:06
not in the business of convincing. I'm
42:08
in the business of conviction. I
42:11
can't convince you up here in 45 minutes. We
42:13
don't know each other like that. But boy,
42:15
do I have conviction in everything that came out of my
42:18
mouth. And for some of you, that might be enough
42:20
at this moment. Literally, today was the
42:23
only day that some of the things I said
42:25
are gonna penetrate. There are people who
42:27
follow me for 10 years and will email me and say,
42:30
I've heard you say the same thing for 10 years and today
42:32
was the day. Which
42:34
is what keeps me motivated saying the same 13
42:36
things, 8,000
42:38
different ways on every different platform. And
42:41
so, when you go into
42:43
your next meeting, don't try to convince them.
42:45
Have conviction in what you believe. Humans will
42:47
feel that. Right? And
42:50
you just gotta. Right? It's
42:54
just an everyday thing. It's the same thing. I
42:56
always think that working out is
42:58
a great comp for life. Most people
43:01
just wanna do eight pushups
43:04
and think it'd be all good. You
43:07
know, they don't realize that it's an
43:09
everyday thing. It's an everyday thing.
43:12
Everybody here can be in better shape. Eat
43:14
healthier and exercise. You
43:17
know the blueprint, it's
43:19
hard to do. Everyone's looking
43:21
for the shortcut. So, you
43:23
just have to keep pushing. Keep pushing. You
43:25
have to go into accountability. If
43:28
you're pushing everyday respectfully for three years
43:30
and it's not happening, and it's bothering
43:32
you like that, well then quit. This
43:37
is my big thing. Complaining
43:41
is the worst. Complaining
43:43
drives me batshit crazy. Especially
43:47
when you have options. You
43:49
can't quit because you're getting paid 200,000 a year and
43:52
your lifestyle, well guess what? Have
43:55
the humility to get your lifestyle down.
43:57
If you're so unhappy at work, you
44:00
spend the majority of your life, then
44:03
return your Lexus and
44:06
drive a fucking Dodge. If
44:10
you're so unhappy, don't
44:12
go on two vacations that are bougie,
44:14
do a staycation. If you're so unhappy,
44:17
stop buying $5 Starbucks coffee and
44:19
make your 18 cent coffee
44:21
at home. You are in
44:23
control. So conviction,
44:26
conviction, conviction, your
44:29
boss is driving you crazy, it's never gonna
44:31
happen, it's eating up your soul, leave. Because
44:35
you can. Two
44:37
years from pension, three years from retirement, you still
44:39
can leave or eat it, because
44:42
that's your strategy and you want it, but shut
44:45
your mouth. If
44:48
you know why you're doing it and you're
44:50
just eating it for another three years, eat
44:52
it and stop complaining because you're driving us
44:54
all down with you. I'm
44:59
sorry. Let's
45:04
go to this youngster. Go
45:08
ahead, you can go here and we'll go to you next. We got
45:10
him next. Sir.
45:12
Sir, Captain Durphy. So first, talking
45:15
about candor, I have to be completely honest and
45:17
say that when I heard that you were coming,
45:19
the only time that I knew of you was
45:21
on YouTube going to garage sale and stuff.
45:23
So I thought we were gonna get really good at going
45:25
to like Rub and Rub and Rub. Can
45:28
I say something, sir? My
45:30
garage sale videos that I know people have seen, that's
45:33
me listening. I was getting, you
45:35
know, I would talk about my story and be like, hey, I
45:37
didn't have anything either and then I saw Twitter and I invested
45:40
in it and I invested $25,000 into it and it made X,
45:42
right? And
45:45
I started just getting these emails like, okay, Gary,
45:47
good for you, but like, I don't have $25,000
45:49
to invest in the next Twitter. And
45:51
I was like, cool, let me show you what I did when I had
45:53
$2 to my name. I
45:55
drove around New Jersey, went to garage sales,
45:58
I bought stuff in high school. I sold it
46:00
at Flea Markets in the Shanek Station in Hunterton
46:02
County, and then the internet came along and then
46:04
I sold it on eBay. Those garage sale videos
46:07
that all my bougie business friends make fun of
46:09
me for because they're like, you look so stupid,
46:11
and this and that, that goes back to the
46:13
crowd. I'm like, you may think I look stupid,
46:15
but I get 10 emails a week from people
46:18
that had $400 to their family's name and made
46:20
$6,000 this summer buying stuff at
46:23
garage sales for a dollar or Goodwill and selling it for
46:25
20. Means a lot to me those
46:27
videos. So actually, following up with
46:29
that, you talk about empathy, but then
46:31
you also talk about not caring about people's opinions.
46:34
How do you balance empathy with not
46:36
caring about people's? Empathy, thank you, sir,
46:39
empathy is having the
46:41
capacity and compassion to care about other people's
46:43
feelings. Not caring
46:45
about other people's opinions is
46:47
based on being secure in your own
46:49
skin and not valuing judgment. They're
46:52
very, very easy to balance, though the
46:54
question's absolutely right. It's all
46:56
emotional frameworks. For me, it's the
46:59
game of being selfless and being
47:01
selfish. For me, having
47:04
compassion and empathy, it's even the entire
47:06
speaking style I have right now. To
47:09
me, I sit here, and I'm just literally
47:11
in real time right now, what can I say that'll
47:13
bring value? What can I say that'll bring value? What
47:15
can I say that brings value? As
47:17
far as, I've also cursed four times,
47:19
sir. I know there's people in here that
47:21
don't like that. I respect that.
47:23
I'm actually empathetic to that. If you grew up
47:25
in a household or were taught a certain way
47:27
or that's a horrible thing, you're not gonna like
47:29
that. I grew up in Jersey,
47:31
so, you know, it's a
47:33
little hard for me to contain it,
47:35
but I'm empathetic to the judgment. On
47:37
the flip side, I'm also aware that
47:39
I'm okay with that judgment, because if
47:41
that's what you took out of this
47:44
talk, we've
47:46
gotta work on all the things we're
47:48
talking about here to level up the
47:50
consciousness. So, I think it's very balanceable.
47:52
I think that they're just both very hard.
47:55
This is 40 years of practice. One
47:58
of the great things that happened to me, Parents that have poor
48:00
students, let me give you an insight that's left
48:03
field, truly not being talked about. What
48:06
allowed me to be who I am is that
48:08
I got poor grades and every teacher and every
48:10
friend's parent told me I'd be a loser, but
48:13
I knew I wasn't. I
48:15
knew I wasn't because I made more money
48:17
than everyone selling lemonade. I
48:19
knew I wasn't because when it snowed, I
48:22
got a shovel and rang every doorbell. I
48:24
knew I wasn't because the world was telling me the
48:26
truth, not the systems. And so
48:29
I got practice. A
48:31
lot of parents reinforce school, yeah,
48:33
this is bad, without realizing
48:35
school has no impact on someone's truth in
48:37
life. And so we need to
48:39
think about those things and I just got a lot of
48:42
practice of tuning out the noise because
48:44
the noise was telling me one thing, but I
48:46
was living another. I'll give you another one. The
48:48
greatest thing I wish on everyone besides health is
48:50
living the first 10 years of their life in
48:53
a household that's extremely happy with
48:55
very little money. That was mine. Because
48:58
I was brought up in a way
49:00
where I realized very quickly, oh, money
49:02
has no impact on happiness. I grew
49:05
up the happiest little boy on earth.
49:07
We had nothing. I wished it on
49:09
everybody because you get conditioned. You understand.
49:11
And so I think a lot about
49:13
these things, it's practicing, it's emotional practice.
49:16
Emotional practice. We talk about physical practice.
49:18
We don't talk about emotional practice. So
49:21
I think it comes down to practicing. Like truly having
49:23
a bad day where people are throwing judgment at you
49:26
and just knowing yourself enough to be like,
49:28
I'm just gonna go golf because that's what helps me. Or
49:30
I'm gonna watch sports because that's what helps me. Or I'm
49:32
gonna listen to music. Practicing. That's
49:35
what I do. Every time I'm having a struggle, I
49:38
push myself into something that gives me
49:40
escapism from that struggle. And
49:42
getting conditioned. We need more
49:44
emotional practice. My
49:47
man. Hello,
49:50
Gary. Gary Vee. How are you, brother? I just
49:52
wanna say that I would see you on YouTube,
49:54
take thought, and you inspire so
49:56
many people, right? And I just wanna
49:58
know who's your inspiration. Thank
50:00
you brother. So I've always answered this question
50:03
the same and I've just recently figured out
50:05
how to add to it. So
50:07
historically it's always been my parents. They came to
50:09
this country at 22 years old. I
50:12
lived in a studio apartment the
50:15
size of a third of this stage
50:17
with seven, eight family members. Like it
50:19
was rough. They
50:21
worked every minute. I watched my
50:23
mom raise three kids solo doing everything
50:25
for us. Like my dad used
50:27
to wake up before I saw him and got home after I went
50:29
to sleep, just worked, worked. There's nobody
50:32
even within their realm. However, I
50:34
will say this brother, lately I've realized there is
50:36
a certain other thing that inspires
50:38
me to no end. So I live in Manhattan
50:41
and I take a lot of flights because
50:43
I travel a lot and a lot of those flights
50:45
are day trips so I actually take a lot, especially
50:48
in the last 10 years, a lot of 6 a.m.
50:50
flights. So if you take a 6 a.m.
50:52
flight, you're kind of leaving the apartment at like 4.30, right? And
50:56
there's something that's just so obvious
50:58
to me. When I'm leaving at 4.30,
51:01
today would have been a perfect day. When it's like dark
51:03
and gloomy. And you know, I
51:05
live in a city and we're going to Newark or JFK
51:07
or LaGuardia. So I'm driving through the city usually to get
51:09
to one of the airports. And
51:11
you know, it's like 4.30 and like you just woke up
51:14
and even though I'd like to close my eyes in the car,
51:16
I'm up, so like I'm just kind of like
51:18
looking out the window. This is the
51:20
scene that I just always, you kind of wipe off the,
51:22
right? And I'm looking out the window. These
51:25
humans, this is what gets me to
51:27
gratitude. The amount of people I
51:29
see, you know, I'll
51:31
just paint you the picture. That 52 year old
51:34
woman that I see coming out of the subway
51:37
at 4.55 a.m. with
51:40
two bags in her hand and I start making
51:42
up scenarios, brother. I'm like, man, she
51:45
just lost her husband. I'm serious, this is what
51:47
I do. This is back to mental training. What
51:50
I'm training there is gratitude, right?
51:53
This woman's, it's 4.55 in the morning. She's
51:56
got two bags carrying shit. I'm
51:58
like, she might have lost her husband. lost her husband recently,
52:01
she has three kids to take care of.
52:03
This is her second job now, she's doing six to
52:05
nine before she goes into, you know what I mean?
52:08
And it's just like, that person,
52:10
the people out there that grin
52:13
like bite their tongue and just put their head
52:15
down to provide financially
52:18
and emotionally for their family with
52:21
all sorts of adversity and
52:24
don't complain, that person
52:26
bro, for me is number one. No
52:29
Elon, no Tom,
52:31
definitely not Tom fucking Brady. No,
52:33
you know, no, like Oprah, no
52:35
people that are on the gram
52:38
or tick tock, not me, not
52:40
those people, like the people that
52:42
nobody talks about that are
52:45
the same way the military and the
52:47
services and the police, foundational, that get
52:49
overlooked, these people, these millions
52:51
of people who just grin it. You
52:54
know, everyone right now
52:56
is thinking about a person like that that
52:58
they know of or was important to their
53:00
life. The people whose
53:03
shoulders we stand on in
53:05
our families, not just in our world. And
53:08
so I'm so inspired by them, you
53:10
know? People, you know, when
53:13
you're young, you're like trying to achieve, you got
53:15
ambitions, you're looking up to things. One
53:17
of the reasons I put out the content I
53:19
put out, my man, is because for all the
53:22
conversations about Rolexes and Lambos and like,
53:24
those are just facades. So
53:27
many of the people that have 10 million followers on
53:29
these platforms, I know them. They're
53:31
not happy like that. They're
53:33
not content like that. That's
53:35
the makeup. The
53:38
people that are just really putting it out there
53:40
and doing the right things for the people they
53:42
love, at their
53:44
inconvenience, that inspires me
53:46
to no end, my man. You know? I'm
53:49
not impressed that I am good at making
53:51
money. That was a God-given gift. I'm impressed
53:53
that I'm nice to people. And
53:56
so I think we have to start championing that. And
53:58
I think the person that's most admirable. in the world
54:01
is the person that is dealing
54:03
with the most adversity and
54:06
doesn't complain. I admire that
54:08
to the end. Thank
54:10
you so much for taking the time to make for us.
54:12
Thank you. What's your name? Jeannie Fortunato. Jeannie.
54:15
So I have a 17 and 18 year old. Yes. 18
54:18
year old's in Seton Hall doing great. She's
54:20
up and running. 17 year old's graduating in
54:22
June, zero direction. Yes. I'm
54:24
looking to give him an elevator speech. Like it's okay
54:26
that you don't know what you're doing, but
54:28
everybody's like, oh, Julius in Seton Hall. What's the inch
54:30
doing? And I'm like, we
54:33
don't know what road
54:35
he's taking yet. Any advice on a
54:37
good elevator speech for a 17 year old that
54:39
doesn't have a direction? Sure. Let's start
54:41
with this. How do you feel about it? I'm
54:44
fine with whatever he chooses. Do you feel like he knows that?
54:47
Oh yeah, yeah. So what's
54:49
the problem? Yeah.
54:53
I mean. He doesn't know. He
54:55
doesn't know. He doesn't know. He doesn't know.
54:58
No 17 year old knows. He
55:01
doesn't know how to handle the
55:03
pressures of everybody saying, okay,
55:05
your sister's in Seton. Of course. Where you going,
55:07
Ang? Ang needs to figure out how
55:09
to not value other people's opinions. This
55:12
whole thing. You need to tell, it's one thing
55:14
that Ang knows that you're good with it. When
55:17
you see Ang rolling, and whether it's a
55:19
friend, whether it's a sibling or
55:21
a cousin, right? You need to,
55:24
every time you as a parent to a 17
55:26
year old sees that his
55:28
uncle came over, and he was a little hot on it.
55:31
Can you think of the three or four people that
55:33
you feel are most bringing the most pressure, even though
55:36
they love him, are bringing the pressure? You
55:38
need to really shit on those people to Ang.
55:41
I'm serious. When Uncle Don comes over,
55:44
and Uncle Don is coming from pure love, he
55:46
wants Ang to be good. When
55:48
I was your eight, right? When Uncle Don leaves, you
55:50
need to look Ang in the face and be like,
55:52
Uncle Don's a fucking idiot. You
55:56
have to, you have to, you see what I mean? You have to
55:58
decrease the, value
56:00
of the voices so that
56:02
he can have room to feel safe.
56:04
You're one place but you're mom, right?
56:07
He needs to know that all those
56:09
other voices are wrong. You
56:11
have to judge the judger. The
56:14
thing that I do for a lot of young people is when they're struggling
56:16
and I'll talk to them and they're like, da, da, da. I'm like, yeah,
56:18
but da, da, da stinks at this. Or da,
56:20
da, da's bad at that. Or why don't you
56:22
tell Uncle Don to stop drinking? I'm
56:25
being dead serious. I know it's like. Their opinion is
56:27
none of your business. Pounding. Their opinion of you is
56:29
none of your business. No, no, you need to undermine
56:31
them. I know, no, I'm really,
56:34
I'm being serious. It's gonna help them because
56:36
that goes into too much like poster. You
56:38
need to teach them, he's 17. So
56:40
even though he's a kid, he's starting to go
56:42
through that transition, you can teach him real
56:45
life. You know, like people
56:47
don't like to talk about the truth. You
56:50
have like an aunt come over and cause all this
56:52
ruckus but you know the aunt was a mess until
56:54
she was 40. Tell the
56:56
17 year old that the aunt was a mess until she was
56:58
40. It really, you
57:00
know, I get it and you know, obviously I'm
57:02
trying to use some extreme examples for a giggle
57:04
and to put into perspective, you don't need to
57:06
tell them a secret alcoholic is in your family but.
57:10
But you definitely need to put things into perspective.
57:12
On the flip side, and this is where it
57:14
gets dangerous, you can't create entitlement. Right,
57:17
and that's hard, right? So it's this weird balance
57:19
of like, hey, everyone sucks but you might suck
57:22
too if you don't do anything. Right,
57:24
like, when I tell
57:26
you, parenting is
57:29
just like politics right now. We've gone way
57:31
too extreme and everybody has to get to
57:33
the middle as fast as humanly possible. So
57:35
it's like, hey kid, there's unlimited
57:37
people that don't know anything at 17. The
57:40
world is filled with people that suck at school
57:42
and don't know what they wanna do, comma, you're
57:46
not gonna be laying at home doing nothing. No.
57:49
Right, so you don't need to go to school
57:51
but you're gonna work. And by the way, if
57:54
you wanna work at Walmart, good. If you wanna be
57:57
an entrepreneur, fine. But you're gonna have
57:59
to do that. And yeah,
58:01
I got you, because I love you, and you can stay here, but
58:03
I'm not giving you any money. Here's where
58:05
parents get caught. They talk big game, but then
58:07
they pay for the kid's Uber. They
58:09
talk big game, but they get them an Equinox
58:12
membership. They talk big game, but one
58:14
of the parents undermines the whole ship by slipping them
58:17
100 bucks quietly, and be like,
58:19
you can't do that. If that kid's such a big
58:21
boy, and he's gonna do it without school, he needs
58:23
to stand on his own two feet. You can do
58:25
subtle things like put a roof over his head, which
58:27
is already remarkable. But
58:31
parents undermine their words with their actions.
58:34
So he's good. You're lucky
58:36
that it's- Great kid, I don't- You don't worry
58:38
for a second. A lot of people don't, most,
58:40
so many kids that are bad at school are
58:42
the ones I least worry about. Right?
58:46
I'm much, honestly, me personally, I'm much more
58:48
fearful of the great student, because they're being
58:50
taught to be a robot. Like
58:53
to me, the kid, but where I
58:55
get really scared is, unlike 1985, 1996, 2000, a
59:00
lot of those 17 year olds went out and got a hard
59:02
job, and learned it, and then
59:05
excelled. 2023's got
59:07
this weird mix where parents are like, cool, but
59:09
then like subsidize their life. You
59:12
need to make him stand on his own two feet. That
59:15
will teach him everything. But
59:17
you could be absolutely emotionally supportive, just
59:20
not financially supportive. That's where parents really lose
59:22
their way. Because then the kid doesn't
59:24
understand why. He needs
59:27
to. I mean,
59:29
we all saw this when the government pays
59:31
you to stay home more than you get to
59:33
go to work. Everybody wants to stay home.
59:36
I'm the most motivated of all time. If the government wants
59:38
to give me the Jets right now, I'd understand why that
59:40
would trick me. But
59:43
it's not real, and that's his version. You're
59:46
welcome. Handsome?
59:50
Oh man. I
59:53
thought I just met the best name ever. I
59:56
have a selfish question. You
1:00:00
should. You should. And I'm
1:00:02
curious about social media trends. Yes. What
1:00:05
are your thoughts on like short form versus
1:00:07
long form? Both work. What
1:00:10
are you better at? I
1:00:12
typically do long form stuff, but I'm just getting
1:00:14
into short form. Do long form and then edit,
1:00:17
you see how I do it. Do long form
1:00:19
and then post edit for short form to bring
1:00:21
awareness to long form. You
1:00:23
understand? Couple other things. It's always
1:00:25
about organic reach. What's giving
1:00:27
you more organic reach in the beginning. Right
1:00:29
now Facebook Reels, it doesn't
1:00:31
come natural. Most people have moved on from Facebook,
1:00:33
they don't think, but Facebook Reels for
1:00:36
under 35 is crushing. So
1:00:38
Facebook Reels, if you haven't been doing YouTube shorts,
1:00:40
for sure, for sure. Especially
1:00:43
if you're long forms on YouTube. And
1:00:45
then the obvious, TikTok and Instagram, things of that nature. Okay,
1:00:48
do you see any other apps that you should? There's
1:00:51
two apps that are in like alpha alpha
1:00:53
alpha mode, Clapper in case TikTok gets banned,
1:00:55
I think could be a winner. And
1:00:58
Lemon 8, which is done
1:01:00
by ByteDance, which could also get banned,
1:01:02
but is Instagram based. Those two, but
1:01:04
I'm not ready to really talk about
1:01:06
them because I don't like guessing, but
1:01:09
I'm watching. And those, but you
1:01:11
wouldn't get, the reason it's not a good use right
1:01:14
now is I'm watching to be more
1:01:16
right to when it happens, it's not
1:01:19
happening on those two platforms like that
1:01:21
yet. Whereas with Facebook Reels
1:01:23
and YouTube shorts, you could post your first
1:01:25
YouTube short and it could work. You
1:01:29
got it. Good
1:01:32
brother. Hi, my name's
1:01:34
Peyton. Peyton. Another social media question. Please.
1:01:37
To generate a big audience. And so it's kind
1:01:39
of a two-parter. So one, what
1:01:42
is the number one impact social media has
1:01:44
in your day-to-day life? And
1:01:46
the second is how did you generate
1:01:48
like that following from scratch? The
1:01:51
number one thing it brings to me is knowing what all of
1:01:53
you care about. So
1:01:55
I don't really consume social media for me. I
1:01:58
consume social media to understand. what
1:02:00
eight billion people on earth care about. So
1:02:04
I'm watching. Like
1:02:06
if I wasn't an entrepreneur, if
1:02:08
I didn't have that, I feel like I would have
1:02:10
ended up being like, you know those weird scientists that
1:02:12
go like to the mountains and like watch ants for
1:02:14
30 years? That's,
1:02:16
I got that in me. Like so much
1:02:18
of everything you heard today was 25 years
1:02:21
of observing all of you. So
1:02:24
that's the biggest value it brings to me is like big
1:02:27
things like oh my God, kids
1:02:30
are fearing losing because of eighth place trophies. That
1:02:32
was not like something, that was like observing the
1:02:34
DMs from kids along the way being like, but
1:02:36
I'm scared, but I'm scared. I'm like why? And
1:02:39
you just talk and you just talk and you're
1:02:41
like, oh right, you've never lost.
1:02:44
Everything's been covered up. I mean, this
1:02:47
is the craziest, parents actually go to school
1:02:49
now and argue for a better grade for
1:02:51
kids. That's
1:02:53
insane. Like
1:02:55
we've just done too much, too many
1:02:57
training wheels and so that's what
1:03:00
it does for me. As far as me,
1:03:02
what I did well that I want for
1:03:04
him, handsome and everybody else is
1:03:07
what I do really well is I make what I
1:03:09
want to make, not what I think is gonna do
1:03:11
well in likes and followers. So
1:03:14
back to the garage sale, but like I knew that I would
1:03:16
get judged by my fancy business friends, but I didn't care,
1:03:18
I wanted to make it because I knew that was gonna bring
1:03:20
value. I started
1:03:22
making wine videos, that's how I started. I
1:03:25
know a lot about wine, I made wine videos. I'm recently starting
1:03:27
to make them again because I miss it. It's
1:03:30
not doing as well as my business content, but I
1:03:32
don't care. And I think
1:03:34
the more authentic you can be, the
1:03:37
more real you can be, people can smell
1:03:39
bullshit from, we're all animals, we're sensing it.
1:03:42
And I think the reason I've connected is people know
1:03:44
I'm authentic and I think they value that
1:03:46
and I think we all value that. And
1:03:48
so I would make content you want to make, not
1:03:50
what you think will do well. Thank
1:03:54
you. Please, let's give our guest speaker another huge
1:03:56
applause. Thank you. Thank you
1:03:58
very much. Thank you. Thank you,
1:04:00
thank you, thank you so much, thank you, thank you.
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