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Fear is a motivator in the
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micro short term. It is the most
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disgusting weapon that a human can use.
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If you don't know how to solve
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this, figure it out. I
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think about leadership from this concept of gray,
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not black or white. Most leaders are
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gonna be either black or white. It's not
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empire of honey, it's honey empire. Nothing works
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unless there's humanity. The number one
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job of a leader is to
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eliminate fear. The reason we call it the
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honey empire, when we talk about leadership, is
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you get more out of honey than vinegar.
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You may get short term wins in vinegar,
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but you will not get sustained wins with
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vinegar. Then there's the opposite side, the me.
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That everything's bubble gum and rainbows and you're putting
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it all on you, but you're quietly building resentment. You
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have to work on what I've worked on for the
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last five years, which is the
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ability to deliver what we call
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kind candor. But I realized that
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candor, that corporations
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love to stand up, was
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really for a lot of people, an excuse
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to be mean. An excuse to
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control someone that they're managing so
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that they don't propel. You know
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how much human psychology goes into a manager
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that consciously knows the person they're managing
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is more talented than them? There's
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a subconscious repression going on there because
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they don't want it to happen. So
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candor all of a sudden became manipulation.
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So candor I always really struggled with. Somehow,
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someway, because I was working on
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myself, I sold myself on the
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concept of this term called kind
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candor. And it's transformed our
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company. Because what was happening
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for us was, you
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know, I'm the CEO of the company, I'm the founder of the company, so
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you're listening to me for 10 minutes here. I think you're getting
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a sense of how we roll. The problem
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was we were on the opposite side.
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We created unlimited entitlement. If nobody's
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getting any critical feedback and nobody's allowed to say
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anything to anybody, it went the other way. We
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were two over here. I genuinely believe that every
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single thing at VaynerX, all 1900 people, that
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every single thing thing that isn't working
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is 100% my fault. I
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really believe that's leadership. Here's why. I
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could be mad at project management. My
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hired the head of product management. The
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COO did, my hired the COO. Like
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you have to fall in love
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with accountability if you have any interest
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in leadership. You have to fall
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in love with it. And most people
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don't want it, especially now. Pop
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culture right now is in love with
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pointing fingers. Everything's about
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pointing fingers. Most
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of us here looking around, we all
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now are deep in our understanding of
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all the things our parents fucked up
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on. That
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is like, say right, like we are
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in deep knowledge of every thought
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we have about mom and dad right now. My
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question is like when does that stop? Cool,
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great, agreed. Inconceivable that someone is
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sitting here that doesn't have thoughts
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about that. My question
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is at what age do you
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take control and fix it? For
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you. And that's how
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I think about leadership. I think there's
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such an opportunity if we just get
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real about it and find that middle. There's
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incredible happiness
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that comes along with 100%
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accountability. Because you feel like you're
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in control. All of it is stemming
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on the same thing. If you don't feel like you're in
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control as a human being, you
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are unhappy. The leadership of
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your own self starts
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to become the practice that you can deploy for others.
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Every single thing I'm disappointed with, my
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default in my brain goes into how
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did I not put this person in
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a position to succeed so that is
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now leading to the thing I'm frustrated about. What didn't
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I do? Your own pain
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and frustration, you're deploying on others. So
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that's what you're bringing to the media and the energy.
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We just have to find a way to get all that. Pointed
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out. You've got to
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get it out. That's all it ever is. It's
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just beer. And fear has
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been weaponized of skill in society
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and so become normalized. subconsciously. life
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is about interpretation. Top
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will not work for leadership in
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will do actually give a fuck
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about people. Do. You.
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For his everything that you're doing
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completely predicated on the short term
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monetary needs you have for the
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expenses. You've. Created for yourself. That
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the second question about leadership. Role.
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And I think leadership. Have
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to really have a. Serious conversation
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of human who's not a
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slang word that are starting
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to emerge. The
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actual Crucible Rat.
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