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I wouldn't. What? If you're gonna come here to this
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incredible place you create a cop planet earth and you
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walk up to a new creations. you say hey creation
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or your i can this thing I created for you're
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going to person says god I'm glad you showed up.
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Provide a bone to pick with your first of all
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why you make it so effing the hot all the
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time and then you make these stupid people that get
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him my way and interfere with i'm trying to accomplish
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Why? When you make everybody nice and connected even a
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little red ants. A By I mean why would you
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create such a thing of your god. And.
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Then God goes to what it was other creation
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since as how you like a misplaced this oh
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god thank god you're here This I've always wanted
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to thank you directly. This the most amazing paradise.
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It's so unbelievable. First of all you never get
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bored dish always change in temperature Assamese you bring
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somebody people to challenge me to grow and you
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made these all right. Answer: These things are courageous.
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Go one million my side and they by It's
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amazing how the question is if you were god
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would you want to hang out with a first
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person to the second one while so I tell
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people say there is no god as others god
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just been so much want to hang out with.
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Your to ship. Out
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I don't think was how often I
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sit down somebody the so some nice
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this was going lot of that. Made.
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That we something to think my own way that had
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a lot of fun and. What's
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up guys? Welcome back to the George Janko show
1:15
today! We have the leader amongst leaders, Tony Robbins
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and there's two things that you guys should stay
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tuned for. One, the time to rice on the
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that's actually around the corner. It's something you guys
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are not allowed check out Second, his book The
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Holy Grail of Investing. I literally had him sign
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this and give it to me because I'm truly
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taking this home. I'll be guys. Enjoy tennis interview.
1:33
Let's get into Welcome Back. I was going to
1:35
jump right into this. I'm super excited about this
1:37
about the Central. Get a just smile. Let's give
1:40
such a contagious my ah A or you just
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cried a few. Minutes ago. However
1:46
that I have you know where you calling
1:48
a doctor's identical going to be cracked as
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far it's going to be caught up cutting
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all if I start crying and cutting all
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gotta be so much he's a can talk
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some an arena just like ah. Good
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to be with you again, Charlie. It's such a pleasure. A
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lot of people do intros and they'll talk about,
2:07
they'll talk about all your exciting
2:09
things that you're having, but I have a personal one that I wanted
2:11
to talk to you about. When
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I first met you, we were
2:15
shooting Impulsive and I was at
2:17
your house and it
2:20
was the first time in my life that
2:22
I ever met somebody that I was like,
2:25
I would be blessed if I was half the man that you
2:28
are. Oh, you're overstating that math,
2:30
but thank you, McIghner. Truly, truly, I'm
2:32
not, I'll tell you why. I walked
2:34
around and you could tell who a
2:36
man is by his surroundings and
2:38
from Billy to Rob to Casey to every
2:42
single person you have around
2:44
are so unbelievably joyful and
2:46
peaceful to be around. And
2:48
I got a second to meet your wife
2:51
and after we were done, you
2:53
were showing me your slide and all
2:55
of the trophies and the gym and the
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bunker that you had and we're
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walking around. I'm looking at, I thought was
3:02
ocean, but it's the pool. And I
3:05
sat there and I was like, you
3:07
figured it out at such a level
3:09
where it's, there's
3:12
a prayer that I've been saying now. When
3:14
I was a child, I used to be like, God used me for
3:16
something good. Yes, that's my prayer before I go on stage every time.
3:18
And I feel like
3:21
both of us have gotten at least to a place where
3:24
we have done something for God and his
3:26
works here. And when
3:29
I sat there, there's this prayer
3:31
where I go, I don't wanna be great in
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mankind's eyes. I wanna be great in your eyes.
3:36
And I want him to look down
3:38
from heaven with all of the greats
3:41
that are from the Bible and be like, that's our guy.
3:43
And when I met you, I can't
3:46
imagine what it feels like to be
3:49
anywhere near the accomplishments that you have
3:51
done for other people. When
3:55
you look up at the stars, right? You see a
3:57
bunch of stars, but there's always one that's so much
3:59
brighter than the. rest of them and I
4:01
truly feel that's how you look like from
4:03
heaven. You
4:06
might as well cut off now
4:08
after that. You're beyond kind but
4:10
I am very blessed and I
4:12
think it takes both. I don't have the delusion that
4:15
it's me. I know that things come
4:17
through you want to serve something more than yourself. That sounds
4:19
trite to some people but it's really real for me. My
4:21
prayer before I go on stage every time I have this
4:24
physical set of motions and things I do with
4:26
my body get myself ready so I can explode
4:28
on stage and hold 20,000 people for 12 hours a day
4:32
for five, six, seven days in a row when
4:34
they won't sit for a three-hour movie. Somebody spent
4:36
three hundred dollars to do but my prayer always
4:38
before I misused me Lord and I didn't visualize the
4:40
impact to where people be when we're done and
4:43
so I've been really blessed and I've also had the
4:45
privilege of doing this. This is gonna be my 47th
4:47
year to hold you. 31. Okay
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so I've been doing it 16 years longer
4:52
than you've been alive to give you an idea so
4:54
I could be an idiot at this point and I'd
4:56
have to notice there are patterns that make the difference
4:58
in the quality of a person's life and their spirit
5:00
and their heart and their body and their emotions and
5:03
their business and their careers and hopefully if you keep
5:05
growing and you're trying to serve something more than yourself
5:07
you're inspired. I really believe life
5:09
supports whatever supports more of life. God
5:12
the universe so everyone has different beliefs in mind
5:14
personally as God but supports something
5:16
that supports more. In other words if you
5:18
get a desire you know desire right Latin
5:20
means of the father so if you have
5:23
a desire you already have the ability
5:25
to fulfill it but certain desires will
5:27
meet your needs and you're part of life and so
5:29
you get insights for that but then suddenly when I
5:31
married a woman had been married twice before me and
5:33
had children from both of them and I adopted them
5:36
as my own all of a sudden I had
5:38
a I was 24 and had a 17 year
5:40
old son an 11 year old daughter a five
5:42
year old one on the way I don't know
5:44
there was a different level I need to serve
5:46
something even more and I'm trying to serve community
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if you're I'm not talking about virtue signaling I'm
5:50
talking about well you know in your soul when
5:53
you know you're trying to serve something more than
5:55
yourself you get insights that are indescribable And they've
5:57
come to me at all the right times when I've needed
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to. Seven
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years, my forty seventh you're doing this. I
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just feel so blessed and a deeply described
6:08
her are the greatest blessing my life, my
6:10
family and my chosen family once I surround
6:13
myself. Whether just beautiful souls are wrong, on
6:15
a mission and on our mission is really
6:17
have people have the most extraordinary life possible.
6:19
And that means live on their terms not
6:21
mine. Whatever they want they want, be closer
6:23
to God. They what they want to build
6:25
a beautiful family. They want to build a
6:27
business. They want to transform the body. They
6:29
want to move to a different economic level.
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I've been obsessed with finding answers for my.
6:34
Whole life and having tools really work. but
6:36
it's It's guided by the spirit of service
6:38
and people feel that if they think it's
6:40
only when except with me for twelve hours
6:42
a day he can take that he of
6:44
day after day. And and that's how you
6:46
win people over because you're not trying to
6:48
win over to you, don't win him over
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to what's really possible for them and put
6:52
a plan together for it so I'm very
6:54
regretful. So thank you Prose kind words. they
6:56
killed over the top. To me I'm not
6:58
gonna become something of office manager sort of
7:00
a plan. A hassle arena is such a
7:02
pleasure to deserve a diplomat. My first thing
7:04
before leaving. Games can have so much stuff at
7:07
I'd love to laugh. Now I'm sitting here. As
7:09
a student, I'm not sitting here. Is your like
7:11
I'm I'm taking a moment. Also, god willing that's
7:13
clever as watching this could take this as well.
7:15
On. You. Tube you went from being
7:18
an eleven year old named. Boy.
7:20
Who's. Hungry on Thanksgiving watching your father
7:22
slammed the door on somebody say says
7:25
fantasies family to being in a helicopter
7:27
thinking that the people that are coming
7:29
to your. Your.
7:31
Venice is gonna be stuck as of
7:33
the traffic, but then you realize that
7:35
the traffic is people that are coming
7:37
to that sewing their to seating a
7:39
billion people. And nailing it two.
7:41
Years before it was even
7:43
scheduled. You went from.
7:46
Respectfully. The bottom all the way
7:48
to the top. Now I know
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that is from the Grace of God. I
7:53
agree on. But. Who
7:55
is your Tony? Who. was the
7:57
man that opens your spirit up and
8:00
and molded you into the man who's gonna mold
8:02
many men? I
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think it's never one thing besides
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God. I don't think it's any
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one thing. I had so many great mentors a
8:11
long way. I had a mother that was very volatile,
8:13
but also really beautiful. I wouldn't be who I am
8:15
without her. But when she drank
8:17
alcohol and took prescription drugs, Valium, she
8:20
got very, very violent. And I had a younger brother,
8:22
five years younger, and a younger sister, seven years younger.
8:25
And I had to be able
8:27
to become a practical psychologist and be able
8:29
to manage her spaints so she didn't
8:31
get violent. And I was five when
8:33
in high school, I was telling people the difference. I'm
8:35
six, seven now, I say it's personal growth that made
8:37
that happen, right? But I grew 10 inches in New
8:39
York as of a tumor, but before that I was
8:42
really small. My mom was small. And plus I was
8:44
kind of getting trained. You did whatever she said, and
8:46
she would get crazy. I poured liquid soap down my
8:48
throat till I threw up, because
8:50
she said I was lying and I wasn't. And when somebody you
8:52
love is trying to harm you, it
8:56
does a weird thing to your head. But at the
8:58
same time, I just felt guided to know that, look,
9:00
all this is for a deeper reason. I don't know
9:02
what it is. I had no clue, but I do
9:04
now. I mean, it made me that practical psychologist and
9:06
those skills just grew and grew and grew. And
9:09
so along the way, I had some great teachers.
9:12
I met a man when I was 17 by the name of
9:14
Jim Rohn. I first took a speed reading class because
9:16
I was so obsessed with finding a
9:18
way to learn. I always wanted to learn anything I
9:20
could, Was this when you were a
9:22
janitor? Yeah, I was a janitor. It was one
9:24
of those literally in junior high school and high school. I worked
9:26
as a janitor because my family was very poor. We'd
9:29
have enough money for food a lot of times. And
9:31
that's why at 11, we got fed at Thanksgiving. And
9:34
that was probably the first huge breakthrough for me.
9:36
I always loved people, but I
9:38
think when somebody who didn't
9:40
want even want credit fed my family,
9:43
it made me believe strangers care. My father had four
9:45
different fathers and my fourth father always said, no, it
9:47
gives a damn. And it looked that way where we
9:49
lived. It certainly felt that way. But
9:52
then it's like I had this pure evidence that somebody
9:55
cared about our family, doesn't even know who we are.
9:57
And they looked out for this this way. Stranger
10:00
care about me, I could care about strangers, and that was I
10:02
think the first step. The second step was
10:04
just one of the answers because I wanted to get
10:06
out of that environment, there was nothing like that, and
10:09
so I started reading as the solution. I could
10:11
read Emerson's essays, As a Man Thinketh, you
10:13
know, anything that would project, I read biographies
10:15
and autobiographies, and that helped me too because
10:17
I saw some of the most incredible people
10:20
in the world had incredibly
10:22
rough lives, but that didn't stop
10:24
them. And so it gave me a model in my head of
10:26
what was possible. And then, you know,
10:29
a combination of guidance and prayer, and then I
10:31
meet these people along the way because I think
10:33
everybody's journey is the hero's journey.
10:35
You know, if you look at all the stories,
10:37
you know the hero's journey, what happens? Your life
10:39
is a certain way, and maybe you're somewhat comfortable
10:41
or bored, and then something comes along and challenges
10:44
you. You get diagnosed with
10:46
a tumor in your brain. I've had that
10:48
experience. You lose a mother or father or
10:50
all of them, which I've buried them all,
10:52
gone through that experience. You get somebody who,
10:54
you know, you thought is your friend who
10:56
betrays you. You, you know, have a financial
10:58
issue. There's so many things coming, but that
11:00
challenge comes for a purpose, and the purpose
11:02
is, I believe, the universe and God calling
11:04
you to go on the journey on an
11:06
adventure to discover who you really are, to
11:08
find the deeper parts of yourself so you
11:10
have something more to share and contribute to
11:12
people. And so when that call comes, you
11:15
know, if you are willing to go on the journey,
11:17
if you don't sit there and just give up or
11:19
complain or come up with excuses, then you have to
11:21
step into the unknown. And I stepped into the unknown.
11:24
I had no net, and I put myself on the
11:26
line to do things that seemed crazy. I'd get up
11:28
and challenge psychologists and psychiatrists and give me your
11:30
worst patient. I'll handle them in less than an
11:32
hour and produce the result when they've worked on
11:34
it for seven years with a snake phobia. Then
11:36
I pulled it off. I learned skills and I pulled it off, and
11:39
then all of a sudden people are coming to me for everything,
11:41
you know, or, you know,
11:43
going to the US Army and saying to the
11:45
general there, I can take any training program in
11:47
the Army, cut it in half and increase the
11:49
competency. And he said, you're crazy. I said, no,
11:51
I'm expensive. And we appreciate it.
11:53
Crazy expensive. But when
11:56
I made a deal with, I get nothing unless I produced
11:58
the result. Right. So I have no net. Do you
12:00
follow me? So when you go
12:02
on a journey like that and you put
12:04
yourself on the line where you can't afford
12:06
to fail, you don't usually. Usually the human
12:08
psyche and spirit finds a way, especially if
12:11
it's trying to serve something bigger. And so
12:13
as I did that, I met new people. I had great
12:15
new teachers. So I started with this man, Jim Rohn, when
12:17
I was 17. I worked
12:19
for a man. I had three jobs. I'm
12:22
still in high school at the time. And my
12:24
father said, you know, this guy used to be
12:26
such a loser. And now he's so successful. And
12:28
he was late 70s. He's
12:30
buying houses in Orange County, California and fixing
12:33
them and flipping them. Right. So
12:35
that was like wealth to me. Right. So he
12:37
needed somebody help move stuff. He's trying
12:39
to do as cheaply as possible. So I volunteered
12:41
and got paid and I worked super hard. And
12:44
so the guy took me to lunch. He goes,
12:46
man, he's, I really, you're the strongest, hardest worker.
12:48
You got the best work ethic. You got a
12:50
great attitude. I said, well, I want to interview
12:52
you. I'd like to ask you a couple of
12:54
questions. He goes, okay. I said,
12:56
my dad said, you used to be such a loser. I'm not even successful.
12:58
I wasn't trying to say anything. Not only can you
13:00
do this, right? How'd you do it? I really wanted to
13:02
know because I wanted to know the pathway, right? I
13:07
was always looking for the path. How did he take that? He,
13:09
the first, your father said, well, then he kind of
13:12
laughed and said, well, it's probably pretty true. You know,
13:14
and he said, well, it started by me going to
13:16
a seminar. And he said,
13:18
wow, seminar. Now I'm figuring it out.
13:20
Yeah. It goes, I go, what's
13:22
the seminar? He goes, it's where this man who's super
13:24
successful over decades, he takes all the best of what
13:26
he's learned and he teaches it to you like in
13:29
an evening, like three and a half, four hours or
13:31
a weekend. You know, if you go for longer programs
13:33
and it can save you a decade or two.
13:36
I was like, wow, I've never even heard of such a thing.
13:38
I said, could you get me in? And
13:41
he said, yeah, but he didn't have
13:43
any follow up. So I said, well, will you? And he said, no.
13:46
What do you mean? You just set up a great way.
13:48
He goes, because if you don't pay for it, you
13:50
won't value it. I said, look, man, I make 40
13:52
bucks a week as a janitor. I'm here working for
13:54
you. I'm going to school. I'm supporting my family. I
13:56
said, you know, if you can get me in, it
13:58
would help. He goes, no. So how much
14:00
is it? He said $35. Now $35 would be like $250
14:03
now to give you an idea of inflation. So
14:06
it was a week's pay, but he was to speak for
14:08
me. I bet if you asked him in a nicer way,
14:11
he probably would have paid that. Hahahah. Anybody didn't call him
14:13
a loser up front? Yeah, I never thought he would be
14:15
a piece of shit. I'd just get the dough, man. Hey
14:17
guys, just a reminder that the merch is out for a
14:19
few more days. So if you haven't got a chance to
14:21
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the link in my description. Or you can shop on YouTube.
14:25
Thank you guys so much and I hope you guys enjoy
14:27
the rest of the podcast. Hahahah. But
14:30
I took the money. I thought it was the biggest decision
14:32
of my life. And I went and sat
14:34
in this seminar. I drove up my 1968
14:38
Volkswagen Baja Bug that exploded when I turned it
14:40
off and handed the keys to the valet and
14:42
went to this business seminar. With a blue
14:45
leisure suit, I got at the thrift store and fake gold
14:47
chains. I was going to make this happen. And I sat
14:49
in his room with all these older people and he was
14:51
talking and I'd read so many of these books. I took
14:53
this reading course. I was trying to read a book a
14:55
day. I didn't, but I read 700 books in seven years.
14:57
I'd read a lot by that time. It's almost like Cat
14:59
Williams. Hahaha. Yeah,
15:01
right. And then I'm finishing
15:04
his sentences and so then I eventually got the
15:06
chance to go to work for him. And I
15:08
went to work and I learned to give speeches
15:10
because I really believed in what he was doing.
15:12
And then it just grew. Then I eventually got
15:14
exposed to what's called neuro-linguistic programming. Some of your
15:16
audience may have heard of NLP. In
15:18
the 70s, it was the breakthrough when it comes
15:20
to creating change. And you could learn how
15:23
to eliminate a phobia in less than an hour, not
15:25
seven years. And I, unlike the therapists
15:27
who had to unlearn what they learned, I
15:29
convinced this man, John Grinder, let me come in the class.
15:31
I said, I'm not like them. I'll just take what you
15:33
do and run with it, man. I'll make it happen. And
15:36
I was literally putting my ear to the door at the
15:38
Holiday Inn by the LAX. So he finally said, I'm going
15:40
to charge you. Come on in and do it. So I
15:42
went through the six months training and I learned these tools.
15:44
And then I got on radio up
15:46
in Canada. So my career really
15:48
launched and I'll show the heck up. I give you a picture. And
15:51
this I didn't know was a shock jock show.
15:53
In those days, there weren't many shock jocks. If
15:55
you don't mind, what is that? It's
15:57
like, you know, your morning group that's, you know,
15:59
like. Some kind of thing when he. Couldn't.
16:04
And so I was young I know going
16:06
in the same sorts idea radio show and
16:08
he starts kind of talk to me and
16:10
he brings this psychiatry starts and I've been
16:13
talking about what I can wipe out any
16:15
phobia you come see me I don't care
16:17
what the problem is of one our i
16:19
am one stop therapist or oh and what
16:21
rights and subs on so sooner people call
16:23
you discover that yes yes yes yes you
16:25
know and up and then a psychiatrist gossip
16:27
he says you know your starlets and you're
16:29
a liar people like you should not be
16:31
lot on the radio. And
16:34
I pause. and I'm a nice guy. but it's
16:36
parts. Can assess your finer.
16:38
I'm. From the streets I'm a
16:40
punchy twice Tobacco Try to be elegantly
16:42
simple syrup. Let me ask you questions.
16:45
I. Said that. Are you
16:47
scientists? Isn't. Of course I'm
16:49
a physician. As a great
16:52
some of your scientists you'd never make
16:54
an assumption and you'd want to have
16:56
a way to test the hypothesis. An
16:58
educated guess I sets of your hypothesis
17:00
is a muslims in a while because
17:02
you never seen someone get results are
17:04
rapidly So I said the best way
17:06
to test hypothesis is for be worth
17:08
one of your precious I said once
17:10
the undoing of free seminar, the holiday
17:12
and. Two nights amount announced
17:14
right, got enough money and I said
17:16
when it's you give me money were
17:18
space and somebody you've never been able.
17:20
Curious and I'm sure you have votes
17:22
Reform, Pause and five one so that
17:24
it he goes. And I said an
17:26
altered America's like make my patients do
17:28
this as wasn't our patience to blow
17:30
to try something new. And.
17:33
Protecting me when we passed. As
17:35
long pause what what this one woman in oh
17:37
she has a snake is go to sleep at
17:39
night he had dreams that a snake bites are
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in the face and of we've had dreams like
17:44
that are so vivid you did you dream when
17:46
pops out she'd wake up and if it happens
17:48
sometimes three or four times a night and so
17:50
how long you been treating earnest and seven years
17:52
my super bring an amateur take me ten or
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fifteen seasons I can face and a diver. And
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House. Suzan Mazur really takes off
18:01
because I show up in in those days I
18:04
was hoping to have like fifty people so up
18:06
for free events five hundred and fifty plus people
18:08
so I would shall I started I got to
18:10
seeing the places it doesn't says what they want
18:12
to see the zoo now but you have a
18:14
look at how is it is have had to
18:17
shows up to the fuck is so browns other
18:19
so know there's anybody reduce your out on brand
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new saw I'm looking around and I know this
18:23
guy looks like l knew his name is on
18:25
his name song picturing I could skew know it's
18:27
a guy with a skilled women on his arm
18:30
in cook for six outer of it's and know
18:32
what else would you have somebody his voice to
18:34
do what I do I didn't help if I
18:36
ever met him and bigger picture what they look
18:38
like they're going to Florida south side of the
18:40
sixers di di scared moments and look around rumors
18:43
that time starts on he didn't swaps I get
18:45
up as a good evening I'm I'm Tony Robbins
18:47
I sign here tonight show you how can make
18:49
changes in minutes you probably thought with months or
18:51
years or decades as have been claim and github
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I say at the site or burst open like
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a movie to make the sit ups in the
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sky About this topic I say what? Is. To
19:03
test his. Aides
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not a big stage rights he was little
19:10
guy with his women wrapped around his arms.
19:12
News goes I got sick his head when
19:14
Sigma Musketeers the woman in his Watts off
19:16
So I submit what's come up with how
19:18
detailed or to sit in the chair and
19:20
I said well how did you heard me
19:22
on the radio that I everybody is as
19:24
whether that right I said well this is
19:26
a woman in question I said ma'am I
19:28
understand that he worked with this man for.
19:30
Seven years into the and I said
19:32
okay and you promise you have a
19:34
phobia to smokes and I screamed it's
19:36
and have you ever seen a phobic
19:39
response is conscious and syndrome or spots.
19:42
Spinning and people freaking out. I just broke
19:44
her parents and I said okay, we're going
19:46
to handle this right now And I did.
19:48
This wasn't my technique is technique, I learned
19:50
from it'll be But I was willing to
19:52
put myself on the line. That was a
19:54
secret. Burn Bridges rights. I had his seats
19:56
and sure enough it took me about fifteen,
19:58
twenty minutes and people watch. He
20:04
also. Makes no move and I
20:06
said day party? Philosophical? Really?
20:08
Com? Is it okay? Just
20:10
one second I walk mine on a desk
20:12
back behind me. Now have a bad know
20:15
I swear to God and I come as
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expensive as is the largest. They put the
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audio c the bag moving right so they
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already have this thing her back to me
20:23
and I gotta be about so put this
20:26
make a distaste Sputnik far why not interface
20:28
literally as you're all those is actually represent
20:30
Going to say is that stay with it
20:32
Rights and and everything They change their body.
20:34
This change in her nervous systems that a
20:37
great. It wasn't simple techniques com nancy spirit
20:39
this make swimming. Think it was made before. And
20:42
I said how do you feel about snakes
20:44
and schools are not very attractive sense as
20:46
the sailed around it's they want to. So
20:48
many points what launch boats And I said
20:50
well, would you be willing to hold it
20:52
Schools, they're not very attractive. I said look,
20:54
you were seeking out of control thinking of
20:57
a snake. now there's one in front of
20:59
you you may find attractive. It or not,
21:01
freaking, you're not seeking. you're not spitting. Second,
21:04
Because I don't on the inside. Scoop.
21:10
As an appellate for subsidies noted is
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like know as much as a minority
21:14
still have any way. Long story short
21:17
to story of at the end of
21:19
that. I've. Found my I found my
21:21
tool I found how to get people's attention and prove
21:23
what he did was real and some him i i
21:25
stepped doing these free just events i i didn't have
21:27
any them as i got the boss and drugs and
21:30
smoking and and women out and or had not had
21:32
an orgasm and ten years gave an orgasm without
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touching requires and I got come up to me going
21:36
to teach me i do that when i. Was
21:42
all about that often? What's
21:44
on the how are you even with up with
21:46
all about that man And I know, yeah, problems
21:48
are there wasn't. A moon up the touch
21:51
them. Laugh at his
21:53
they're pissed off his sister and rather the
21:55
any couldn't believe it. He did not apologize
21:57
on the nature of the last several decades.
21:59
To be fair I was are young and
22:01
full of piss and vinegar and I needed
22:03
people going to therapists over and over again
22:05
for the same as a problem when you
22:07
I knew could be changed much quicker like
22:10
using like you wouldn't have a phone from
22:12
fifteen years ago. it was a real phone
22:14
avoided you be an idiot right or computer
22:16
They not updated the technology and most forms
22:18
of psychology and psychiatry the doing stuff from
22:20
one hundred and fifty years ago still so
22:22
I felt pretty intense and saw it. I
22:24
didn't have a good out interaction with him
22:26
to certain said to be fair funny but
22:29
it a long term fire. My but I
22:31
have the same time I've you know now
22:33
if train how people get the study, my
22:35
work and big credit to be a therapist
22:37
and X so it's it's kind of grown.
22:39
I I trained therapist around the world the
22:41
state but it went from that to okay.
22:44
Working some great athletes and turning around. Had
22:46
a guy that was exposed to make the
22:48
team and the alley Olympics and see what
22:50
he know he made a team that won
22:52
the gold medal in that.my reputation and and
22:54
next thing I know I'm working with Gorbachev
22:56
and I got Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela, Bill
22:59
Clinton and sports teams and it just grew
23:01
Governance: All this was because I understood and
23:03
I want your audience understand. it
23:05
as something of sided you the you don't like. A
23:08
behavior and emotion of thought. It's.
23:11
Not You. There's nothing wrong with you.
23:13
It's a pattern and we can develop
23:15
patterns in to them so often that
23:17
we think we are patterns as as
23:19
the habit. a habit of thinking. Have
23:21
an emotion over every moment you overeat,
23:23
when you're bored, when you're pissed off,
23:25
or when you worried. rights to pattern
23:28
you contains any pattern when you start
23:30
thinking there's something wrong with you. But
23:32
also, I've learned that anybody that's great
23:34
and anything you're an actor understand you
23:36
do music. I did know that before
23:38
or comedian a packet you are graded
23:40
patterns. We wouldn't be successful. If
23:42
somebody is great musician, they know certain
23:44
patterns, know how to get their. Three.
23:47
skills first go you gotta do is you gotta
23:49
recognize patterns because otherwise sing sing random and so
23:51
overwhelming at the world seems random like oh my
23:53
god is the worst time to be alive was
23:55
bullshit i saw people like they got to know
23:58
that it's a worse time the world pull for
24:00
example, I have so much hate. I
24:02
can show you the postcards that were used
24:05
that were posted by the two of
24:07
the founding fathers, Adams and Jefferson, and
24:09
you've read what they said, it makes
24:11
Trump and Biden and everybody around them
24:13
sound like they're the nicest people in
24:15
the world. I mean, it's cyclical. We
24:17
go through cycles, right? Just like seasons.
24:19
So once you recognize a pattern, you
24:22
can run a business. Once you recognize a pattern, you can
24:24
know what's going on in the stock market. You can be
24:26
a better investor. Once you recognize a pattern, you know what
24:28
to do with your body for more energy. If you recognize
24:30
a pattern, you can decipher how to make a relationship work.
24:33
The first skill is recognizing, the second skill is
24:35
learning to use it. And when
24:37
you look at somebody who's masterful, pick any subject
24:40
in that area, in that domain, they know the best
24:42
patterns and they know how to use it. Now you
24:44
start, let's say you're gonna play the piano by
24:46
playing somebody else's patterns because they figured it out.
24:49
And then as you do that long enough, there gets to a point
24:51
where you learn how to use it, and then you get to the
24:54
third stage where you create your own pattern. And
24:56
that's when you become kind of the master of
24:58
your particular domain, whatever it is you're really good
25:00
at it, if you do it long enough and
25:02
strong enough. So once I understood that, I started
25:04
doing that with businesses. I realized
25:06
business is a pattern. There's certain things that make
25:08
them go, certain things that make, and so then
25:11
I started building them. I started one business and
25:13
I was overwhelmed. And then two, and I did
25:15
things that I really just thought changed the quality
25:17
of people's lives. Businesses I felt passionate about. And
25:19
now I've got 114 companies who
25:21
do $7 billion in business. And
25:23
I couldn't even run one before. And
25:26
it's all just because I know this pattern. So what
25:28
I do is teach people those patterns, help
25:30
them understand the patterns that control them so they
25:32
can change, help them understand the patterns of something
25:34
they want to master, their body, their emotion, their
25:36
business. And once you know them, it's like, you know the
25:38
pathway to get from where you are to where you want
25:40
to be, then it just comes down
25:42
to doing the hard work. Because it's hard work.
25:44
There's no way around the hard work part. But
25:46
it's fun when you get momentum. And
25:49
it's easier. It's like easier to succeed when you have
25:51
momentum than it is to fail. And so
25:53
that's been my life's work. So I'm now, you know,
25:55
47 years into this, and
25:58
I worked in every country in the world, 195 countries. And
26:00
I have the most blessed life because I can go
26:02
anywhere in the world and I've helped so many millions
26:05
of people that I get so much love because when
26:07
you pour out love like that and
26:09
you really deliver for decades and always
26:11
up your game, you touch a
26:14
lot of lives. And I've had people grow up with
26:16
me. I remember when people started recognizing me like, you're
26:18
that guy. And then I had those infomercials for a
26:20
while. I'm like, you're that real estate guy. No, no,
26:22
no. Oh, you're Tony Robbins. Oh, you
26:24
changed my life. Oh, now people come and go, I've
26:26
been listening to you since I was 25 and they
26:28
were like 50 years old. Have
26:31
I been around that long? I guess so. The answer
26:33
is yes. So it's a beautiful, beautiful experience. But I
26:35
share the story because you ask it, but I want
26:37
you to know it wasn't a straight line. There's
26:40
so many ups and downs along the way. If you see
26:42
a straight line in nature, it wasn't made by God. It
26:44
was made by a human, right? Because
26:46
real living things go up and down. Now
26:48
if they keep growing, the up and down
26:51
leads to something greater. And fortunately, I've not
26:53
given up and pursued that and been guided
26:55
and had a lot of grace
26:57
of my life along with the hard work. I
27:00
remember being in your house and you made a
27:02
joke. You go, I always wanted a trophy and
27:04
rings. I just took a different route. And
27:07
I'm sitting there like, what the hell? I
27:09
go, you trained Serena
27:11
Williams, Conor McGregor, four presidents.
27:14
You have all of these leaders. You're the
27:17
leader that the leaders go to for advice.
27:19
And I'm not even blowing smoke up your ass. This
27:21
is legit what people say about you. How
27:24
do you take great people and make them even greater
27:26
than they are? Because now they're performing at a high
27:28
level. Did you have
27:30
that same mindset with the man who's
27:32
unfortunate with the champions? Well,
27:35
yes, I think, you know, people
27:37
come to me in one of two extremes. They're the best
27:39
in the world at what they do. And why do they
27:41
come to me? Because someone who's the best in the world
27:44
is always, they know if I make a little 10 degree
27:46
shift here and I go this direction or
27:48
I make this 10 degree shift this direction, I go
27:50
out a week from now, a month from now, six
27:52
months from now, a year from now, I have a
27:54
different destination, different destiny, different impact. So the best in
27:57
the world, no, a little thing can change everything and
27:59
they want it. to know those and I've
28:01
been obsessed, I'm an obsessive person, I've been
28:03
obsessed for 47 years with asking
28:05
the question, what makes the difference in the quality of
28:07
people's lives? What makes the difference in the quality of
28:09
their performance? Because it's not your
28:12
background. Like, you know, I used to
28:14
think when I was growing up poor, we had no money
28:16
and my fourth father and like, what's wrong here? And I
28:19
remember thinking, well, it's like those people are
28:21
lucky and we're just not. But
28:23
the truth of the matter is you see people
28:25
that have the worst background whatsoever and they just
28:27
made different decisions. They just get moving forward, right?
28:29
So for me, when I look at people, the
28:31
best come to me because they wanna keep getting
28:33
better. And the other time people come to me
28:35
is when they're hungry. What I mean
28:37
by hungry is, if you see my
28:39
audience, it's every color, every background, every age group,
28:41
every country in the world. How, what do they
28:44
have in common? It's not demographics. It's
28:46
a psychographic of wanting more. And
28:48
so you might want more because you
28:50
just went through a divorce. You want
28:53
more because you just had a birthday
28:55
with a zero on it, or maybe after 30, a
28:57
five or a zero on it. You start reevaluating
29:00
your life a little bit. You might do it
29:02
because you lost your job or something
29:04
happened to the business. So pain can
29:06
trigger that hunger. And some people, that's
29:08
not pain. They're just hungry to be more, do more
29:10
and give more. That's my audience. I'm
29:13
not for somebody in lukewarm middle. They're
29:15
not gonna come in and go work day and night
29:17
with me for three or four days. They're gonna go,
29:19
oh, I do all this crap. It's not worth it.
29:21
So that's not my audience. But when someone's in pain
29:23
or someone has drive, that's my
29:25
audience. That's people I serve. To answer your question
29:27
with somebody's great, I just find the
29:30
little things. They take
29:32
them next level, or if they've had an athlete and
29:35
they're having a slump, I go back and find her,
29:37
or a financial trader. I find out what were they
29:39
doing at their best in their head, in their psychology.
29:41
I go to the very depth of what's happening. When
29:43
I worked for the army, I took
29:46
the pistol shooting program that took them, I don't
29:48
know, almost a century to develop. And
29:50
I cut the training in more than half and tripled
29:53
the number of people at experts. How did I do
29:55
it? I went and said, give
29:57
me the three best experts in the entire military
29:59
at shooting. a 45 caliber pistol. I
30:01
never shot a 45 caliber pistol, never shot a gun before. I
30:04
told him I'm gonna do this, right? Now I had a partner
30:06
at the time. How do you sell this? How
30:09
do you sell this? How do you go to the military and be like, I've
30:11
never shot a gun in my life. I didn't tell him that part. But
30:14
I had a partner that was from the Special Forces and
30:16
was John Grinder, he was the one who created NLP. So
30:19
it was the two of us together. And then the day
30:21
I'm supposed to go to the army after a year of
30:23
going through top secret clearance and all this stuff, he
30:25
calls me and says, I'm at the airport, I'm really
30:27
sorry, I have this problem. I gotta go handle it,
30:29
you're on your own. So
30:32
my guts are going crazy. I
30:34
show up underground at this facility in
30:36
Virginia by the security
30:38
services. And they bring me the best guy
30:41
in the army, the best guy, I think it was the
30:43
Marines, and then the best coach of them all. And
30:45
they walk in and they're like, you know, 45,
30:47
50 years old, and I'm 24, and I'm in
30:49
a t-shirt and jeans. And they say, hey,
30:52
where's the teacher? And I said, well, you mean
30:54
the instructor? I said, that's me. And
30:56
they said, where's the teacher? It's
30:59
me, how old are you? I'm 24, I just turned 24, I
31:01
think. And they said, how
31:04
long have you been shooting? I said, well, I've never
31:06
shot before, but we're gonna have a good time today.
31:08
And they were like, looked at me like, are you,
31:10
am I being punked? No, no, no, I don't need
31:12
to have shot. And they, you're gonna shoot a gun.
31:14
So they give me a 45-caliber pistol, we're in this
31:16
underground range, I'll never forget. And they're
31:18
watching me, I've never shot a gun before, right? And
31:20
I'm shaking a little bit and boom. And I put
31:23
the bullet in the ceiling because if you had a
31:25
kickback, did not build rapport. But here's what I did,
31:27
so you understand what I do, and I
31:29
answer your question. I said, I will learn how to
31:31
do this, just like we're gonna train other people to do this, but
31:33
I'm gonna learn the right way, your way. So
31:35
we're gonna start with pick up your gun, all
31:38
three of you, and I want you to go through
31:40
the very first step, like you're about to go shoot
31:42
this gun, and we're on the range, and I go
31:44
stop. And I'd figure out what they're doing in their head.
31:47
And I discovered something that, some things were idiosyncratic,
31:49
like different for each of them. I look for
31:51
the things that are universal, that's what works. And
31:54
all of them, without knowing it, took
31:56
the target, which looked a million miles away
31:58
to me, and mentally. they brought the target
32:01
right here. So in their visualization
32:03
of the target, they brought it closer. Well, it's
32:05
right here, you felt certain you're gonna hit it.
32:07
I'm sitting there going, how am I gonna shoot
32:09
this thing way the hell out there? So
32:11
that was one of the things, I watched the rhythm
32:13
of what they did. I saw what they did with
32:16
their breath, how they held the gun. And so I
32:18
broke it all down into steps until I found what
32:20
they all had in common. And then I took a
32:22
new group of people and trained them to do it.
32:25
And in a day and a half, not four days,
32:27
we qualified everybody and tripled the number of people at
32:29
expert. And the Colonel who wrote up the
32:31
project to the governor, to the general said, the first
32:33
breakthrough in pistol shooting since World War I. So that
32:36
gave me momentum. But that's how I think, I go
32:38
and figure out what's those differences are. So when I
32:40
trained people, you know what I did? I
32:42
didn't let them shoot the gun until they'd handled the
32:45
gun over and over again with no bullets, nothing perfectly,
32:47
exactly the other guys. And the first time they shot
32:49
the gun, I literally put the target three feet in
32:51
front of them. Boom, right through the
32:53
center, boom, boom, right through the center. Hey, this is
32:55
cool shit. And then took it 10 feet and then
32:57
20. And then by the time
32:59
we got it to 50 feet and more, I
33:01
mean, these guys were performing at incredible level. So
33:03
it's these micro things. When somebody's in a tough
33:06
place, might never been there before,
33:08
then the work takes more work, right? But I
33:10
love both. And I love doing the one-on-ones that
33:12
I get to do with amazing
33:14
people and challenge people. And I love being able to do
33:16
crowds of 20 and 30 and
33:19
40,000 people, which we did. I'm doing a seminar
33:21
in a few weeks. Again, I did it last year for a
33:23
million and a half people for six days. Billy
33:26
got me into it. You talk about the virtual one, right?
33:28
Yeah, it was the virtual one. Really
33:30
fucking early in the morning. Wish it was, wish
33:32
it wasn't. I told Billy, I'd go, I'll meet
33:34
you at the end. And I'll turn that on.
33:37
I was the lukewarm guy at that time. Faith,
33:40
I want to circle to faith. I
33:43
think that we're living in a time right now where
33:45
people are starting to lack faith, right? And
33:48
I feel like faith is like the foundation. And
33:51
if you don't have a foundation, regardless of where you're
33:53
building, it's always rocky. What's
33:55
your thoughts on faith and how does a man
33:57
build his faith? to
34:00
build it, you have to understand you were born with it. I'm
34:02
not talking about your religion, I'm talking about your faith. We
34:05
both share, you know, we're both Christians, I know, but
34:07
I don't tell people what to believe. What I think
34:09
is important is that they find what is so for
34:12
them inside. They find their connection with God. It's like
34:14
trying to touch God, you know, the story of the
34:16
blind people touching God, and one touches the tail, and
34:18
they all have a different perception of what God is.
34:20
They're only getting a little piece of it, God's so
34:22
much more than that, right? But faith you were born
34:24
with, and I'll prove it to you. Think of all
34:26
the people that are watching or listening right now, our
34:28
friends out there, who get up every day
34:30
and get in a car and drive it. How
34:33
the hell do you get up, drive a car
34:35
65 miles an hour down
34:37
the street, there's nothing but a yellow line dividing you from
34:39
other people coming 65 miles an hour
34:41
at you, and you know, you know, every
34:43
single day in every city on earth, people
34:46
get killed because the person on their
34:48
side crosses that line. They fell asleep,
34:50
they're trying to text, they're upset,
34:52
they're drunk, happens every single day of your
34:54
life. How the hell do you do that?
34:57
There's only one way, things. Without
34:59
faith, you couldn't make that drive.
35:01
You would have to stay home and do nothing,
35:04
which is pretty much what we did during COVID.
35:06
People want faith and thought a little microbe was
35:08
going to destroy the planet, right? And it wasn't
35:10
true. We all found it wasn't true, unfortunately, the
35:12
hard way after all those shutdowns and all the
35:14
problems and so forth. So without faith, we don't
35:16
function. But faith is a muscle. And
35:18
the more you use a muscle, the stronger it gets. Faith
35:21
unused does not grow, it shrinks. Courage
35:23
unused does not grow, it shrinks.
35:26
Passion unexpressed does not grow, it
35:28
shrinks. So, but if you use
35:30
more of it, and you rely on it more,
35:32
you discover it's there. And what I found is,
35:34
I personally,
35:37
everyone is different in their approach. My wife is unbelievable.
35:39
She's one of the most incredible human beings I know.
35:41
She just has faith. I have
35:43
to earn it. It's just my thing. I don't
35:45
know the way I'm there. It's like my way
35:48
of earning it is over practice, over prepare, over
35:50
deliver, be so ready to go, and then step
35:52
into that room and then everything I prepared for,
35:54
for hours. My team will be
35:56
working with me till two in the morning designing stuff for,
35:58
you know, a day's event, for example. 12 hours
36:01
and I got mind maps and ideas and I
36:03
stand out in that audience and it all changes
36:05
because I feel the people I see what's needed
36:07
but because I've loaded my system so to speak
36:10
I feel like I've done my part and then God comes
36:12
through you. Amen. You prepared yourself.
36:14
That's my part. Now some people just have the
36:16
faith and it works, I wish I worked that way in some way but I
36:18
don't. That's so beautiful and honestly I
36:20
literally just spoke about this with Andrew T. I don't
36:22
know if you know who Andrew T. is. Yeah, of
36:24
course I do. I told him I'd go, God prepared
36:26
me for this. I did not prepare, like I prepared
36:28
as much as I can but when we were having
36:31
a conversation it was like I already knew where it
36:33
was going and I was so confident and I tell
36:35
people now I'm like I'm probably the most confident in
36:37
the room but I'm confident because I'm confident in my
36:39
Lord not me. Yeah, I'm confident and guided. When
36:42
someone stands up in those rooms and it's been 47 years, when
36:44
they stand up it's different
36:47
every time and when they stand up
36:49
it's already done and then I get to see how
36:51
it's done and then afterwards I look at what I
36:54
did and figure it out so I could do it
36:56
again or teach other people to do it. I figure
36:58
out the patterns but that's really the process. But I
37:00
want you to know the way I am, I don't
37:02
go preach to people about their religion at all. I
37:05
tell people whatever you believe I help you practice
37:07
it because you won't be happy otherwise you won't
37:09
be fulfilled and I also believe that somebody thinks
37:11
that there is no God, there isn't anything greater
37:14
in the universe than yourself. It's
37:16
a little bit egotistical and a little bit
37:18
silly. It's like saying Webster's dictionary is the
37:20
result of an explosion in a print factory.
37:22
It all came together just perfectly. So I
37:24
think if you can do your part and
37:27
you can work your tail off and you can over deliver
37:30
then something magical happens, grace. Some people
37:32
call it luck, grace, God,
37:34
the universe, whatever you want to do. But my
37:36
personal belief is it's really hard to be fulfilled
37:38
without that. But I don't ever do that. I
37:41
decided not to become a minister of sorts because
37:43
I wanted to reach people that
37:46
weren't being reached. I didn't want
37:48
to talk to people that are already there. I want to reach
37:50
people that they see me, they experience
37:52
it, they feel how much real love and care
37:54
is there and then they
37:56
might ask me what I believe in that area. Well remember,
37:58
we're going to be there. I'm not here to do
38:00
that. I explain to people all the time. I'm not
38:03
a preacher. I'm a man who fears God and loves
38:05
to talk about it. That's beautiful. So
38:08
the thought behind it is if Jesus came
38:10
down and said, hey, preach, the number one thing you would say is
38:12
don't use your mouth. Use your actions. I agree. Because
38:15
people could talk all day. That's right. And a lot
38:18
of people that talk about Jesus aren't moving the way
38:20
Jesus wants to be moving. That's right. So
38:23
I'm very proud of the way you're moving. Not that you need my. I
38:25
could go to bed now that Jordan's
38:27
proud of it. I feel
38:29
so much better. But before
38:31
we go. But I always tell people you can know who
38:33
I am. You don't have to see how my lips move.
38:35
You can tell my feet and my hands and my body
38:37
has moved for 47 years. It's
38:39
real clear who the hell I am and what I really stand
38:41
for and what I really deliver. And I
38:44
think that's the greatest message any of us can have
38:46
because anybody can talk a good game. And the most
38:48
disgusting thing to me in the world is all the
38:50
virtual signaling that you see in social media where people
38:52
don't even know the whole story of what's going on
38:54
in some part of the world. And they present how
38:56
great they are because they're supportive of something. That
38:58
is annoying. What are you going to do? Do
39:00
something. Don't just talk about or try to present
39:02
yourself. Well, they're adding to the problem. If
39:05
you don't actually have a solution, you're talking about it. You're starting
39:07
the fire. If
39:09
you'd like a lot of people would get mad at me.
39:11
Why aren't you speaking up about this? Because I don't know
39:13
about it. I think that's fair. That's intelligent. I
39:15
don't know about it. How am I going to speak
39:17
about it? What if I'm talking about talking my ass
39:19
and I go in the wrong direction and then I
39:21
convince other people to go in the wrong direction? We're
39:23
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40:31
UK prime minister and
40:33
and I had him with this group and
40:36
it was right around the time that Brexit was coming And
40:39
sure enough some people asked the question somebody asked the question and
40:41
he gave his answer what he thought about that And the person
40:43
says well, I think you're completely wrong. I don't think you know
40:45
what you're talking about at all He goes
40:47
well, I was prime minister for eight years, right Tony
40:50
Blair And I go you're a
40:52
horror criminal and it's like we oversimplify
40:55
Everything in a complex world and we live in
40:57
the world today that if we've been on a
40:59
plane we think we can fly it We're not
41:01
all equal in our skills We can become equal
41:03
in our skills if you want to put the
41:05
time and the energy and the effort into it
41:07
But we live in a world now where it's
41:09
all about instantaneous fulfillment and it's not real. It's
41:11
not really fulfillment It's positioning and positioning makes you
41:13
feel empty in the end. You don't feel strong
41:15
you feel fearful That's what this whole imposter syndrome
41:18
thing is is people like Trying
41:20
to be something that they're not look you can
41:22
build yourself into anything you want to become You
41:25
know our creator give us this thing
41:27
called choice And you can make new
41:29
choices and you can take a new direction right now today
41:31
You don't like your life changing you don't like your business
41:33
change You don't like your relationship change you first because if
41:35
you just change it You'll have the same problem again because
41:37
you're part of a more right, you know
41:39
I can find answers change anybody can change it As
41:42
long as you stop making up stories and you
41:44
stop coming up with all the excuses because you're
41:47
just fearful Fearful everybody else fear
41:49
that's why faith is so powerful faith is the
41:51
only thing that can get you out of fear
41:53
You're scared, but you do it anyway. That's what
41:55
courage is. It doesn't take courage if you're not
41:58
scared and most of them that
42:00
we develop spiritual muscles, emotional muscles,
42:03
faith, courage, determination, all those, they come because you
42:05
did it not because you felt like it, you
42:07
did it because you knew it was going to
42:09
serve something more than you, or you knew it
42:11
was going to serve you as well. There's
42:14
two things, faith, that there's two stories that I hit
42:16
in my head. I want to share here because I
42:18
know there's going to be a lot of people watching
42:20
this, and the two things that I always rely on
42:22
when it comes to faith, because sometimes you have to
42:24
remind yourself that faith. Even when you see a man
42:26
who's like, man, that guy has a lot of faith,
42:28
trust me, the devil has put him to the test
42:30
to have that faith. There was this
42:32
one, an amazing speaker, and he said,
42:34
God will give you the vision at the end, but
42:37
he won't tell you how to get there because you
42:39
need faith to get there. I
42:41
thought that was really beautiful. At the time in
42:43
the scripture, there was a woman that
42:45
was in the crowd, and Jesus was walking. At
42:48
the time Jesus was walking and he was healing, he was a very famous
42:50
man. Some people wanted to talk to him, some people didn't. This
42:54
woman, this woman who was ill, she just says,
42:56
I'm not going to bother him, but I know
42:58
if I just touch his cloth, his clothes, that
43:00
I'll be healed. She
43:03
touches him, and instantaneously
43:05
she was healed, she felt it, and
43:08
Jesus turns around and he goes, who touched me? Who
43:11
touched me? Obviously he knows who touched her.
43:13
He goes, who touched me? I felt power leave me. She
43:17
got scared. She goes, it was me. I just
43:19
knew that if I touched you, that I would
43:21
be healed. He said, daughter, it was your faith
43:23
that healed you. I
43:27
circled with that because the thing that
43:29
rang with me, man, was a lot of
43:31
people always asked me, when you talk to a man who
43:33
doesn't want to know God, the first thing he brings up
43:35
is the things that, why would this happen if there's a
43:38
God? I think
43:40
that everybody has the same tools. Some
43:43
people that have bad intentions have better
43:45
faith than you, so they could get there quicker
43:47
than you. I
43:50
always try to tell people, man,
43:52
don't run away from faith. Do not run
43:54
away from faith. In
43:56
this world, it's either you're contributing or you're going to
43:58
be a part of it. somebody else's
44:00
contribute. It's true. Faith
44:03
without works is dead too. We got to do our part. That's
44:06
the hard work. They don't have faith but they aren't doing anything. It's
44:10
like hope. Hope is a good first step and hope
44:12
is not enough. You got to
44:14
get yourself an action. You got to do something.
44:16
You got to learn. You got to grow. Some
44:19
people call fail, I call learning. You got to
44:21
learn. Every time you don't
44:23
succeed and you learn something, you get better
44:25
if you keep moving forward. Even
44:28
your human body is this. I wrote a whole book
44:30
called Life Force and I interviewed 150 of
44:32
the best scientists, regenerative
44:35
doctors, Nobel laureates about these incredible
44:37
breakthroughs like stem cells and things
44:39
that are occurring. One
44:42
of the things I ended up doing a whole
44:44
chapter on was understanding placebos because placebos are amazing.
44:46
You can take any problem a human being has
44:48
and give them a placebo and a percentage of
44:50
them get well. I mean, physically well. You know
44:52
you changed my life when you first told me
44:54
that. No, I didn't know that. When you told
44:56
me you took 10 people in a room that
44:58
had depression and you got them
45:01
into the gym, eight
45:03
of them didn't have depression anymore. I was secretly
45:05
depressed when you told me that. I didn't
45:07
know that. I didn't know that either. Changing
45:10
your biochemistry, people try to do through drugs
45:12
and it doesn't work. SSRIs,
45:14
Prozac, Zoloft, all these things. There was
45:17
a cover of Newsweek a year ago
45:19
in 2022, almost two years
45:21
ago, saying all the metastudies say they
45:23
don't work but we keep selling them. This is so
45:25
crazy. We did this study
45:27
where during COVID we had Stanford
45:30
come to me and they had two other professors
45:32
that went through one of my programs called Date
45:34
with Testing, a six-day program, a real deep immersion.
45:37
They said they both had clinically depressed, came out
45:39
not depressed. They were like, do you need data
45:41
on the people you've worked with? I said, well,
45:43
I got millions of clients. They said, no, but
45:45
like scientific data. I said, no. I
45:47
said, you want to do a study? Let's do a study. They said,
45:49
we'd love to. I said, before we
45:51
do it, tell me how does this
45:53
work normally? Meaning when people
45:55
go for traditional treatment, how many get well?
45:58
And they said, if you go across the metastudy, when they do
46:00
like a hundred different studies and see what they have in
46:02
common, the average is 60% don't improve
46:04
at all. That's with drugs
46:07
and therapy. 40% improve, but on average
46:09
they improve 50%, they're half
46:11
as depressed. Most of them stay on those drugs for the
46:13
rest of their life, at least a decade, and
46:15
they don't work. All they do is numb you. They don't take
46:18
care of the real problem, right? So I said, I think you
46:20
can do that with a placebo because by the way, with the
46:22
placebo, the more intense the
46:24
placebo, the greater the reaction. Meaning we
46:27
can give you an amphetamine to speed
46:29
your body up, give it as a
46:31
blue pill and tell you it's a barbiturate and
46:33
your body will slow down. It doesn't
46:36
just heal your body, it'll overcome
46:38
a drug in your body. But if we
46:40
really want a powerful injection, powerful thing, the
46:42
bigger the capsule, the greater the response, if
46:45
it's an injection, they get even bigger results. And
46:47
the most powerful results of all was fake surgeries
46:50
because, I mean, I've shared this with you when we
46:52
talked about that book, but in,
46:54
you know, what is it? Microscopic
46:56
surgery for the knees, what's it called? I'm
46:58
going to get them named. Ophthaloscopic, thank you.
47:01
Ophthaloscopic surgery, they did a study, they
47:03
were doing this for all the veterans, and
47:05
they did fake surgeries on a percentage of
47:07
them. Well, they literally put them out, cut
47:10
them, and did nothing, put it
47:12
back together. The results after a year and a
47:14
half was that people had no surgery improved more
47:16
than the people had the surgery, so they stopped
47:18
funding it. Because of surgery, now you really expect
47:20
a result, right, to make things happen. But anyway,
47:22
with Stanford, I said, let's do the study. I
47:24
said, what's the best result you've ever gotten in
47:27
getting rid of depression? Because this is the middle
47:29
of COVID when this is happening, and people are,
47:31
you know, more suicides at the
47:33
time, more overdoses, you know how bad it was then,
47:35
people are freaked out at home. And
47:37
so I said, what's the best? They
47:39
said the best was five years ago at Johns Hopkins.
47:41
They gave people for a month psilocybin.
47:44
So they gave them magic mushrooms for
47:46
a month and cognitive therapy for
47:48
a month. I said, well, after that, you
47:50
better be changed in some way, right? And the
47:53
guy said, it was amazing, it was the greatest
47:55
result in the history of psychiatry. Six weeks after
47:57
this month's worth of treatment, 54. percent
48:00
of the people had no symptoms whatsoever. It's like
48:02
unbelievable. I said, I think we can beat that.
48:04
We'll see. Right. So I said, you set up
48:06
the study. They did the same type of study,
48:08
no drugs, obviously, and just the six day seminar.
48:11
And what do we do? We get
48:13
people to rewire how they perceive
48:15
the world. In other words, whether
48:18
your life is terrible, shitty, great,
48:20
magnificent, has nothing to do with
48:22
your life. It has to do with what you focus on.
48:25
Right now, there are a million things that you could be pissed
48:27
off about in the world if you wanted to be, or your
48:29
life, or worried about. There's a million things you could be happy
48:31
about too. What's wrong is always
48:33
available, so is what's right. So when you
48:35
shift your belief systems consciously, and
48:38
you decide what you want to value, and you
48:40
align your behavior values, you have a different life.
48:42
So these people go through this process, and
48:44
the results were so profound that they
48:46
were afraid they were going to get canceled if they
48:49
published it. So they put it, blacklisted it, meaning they
48:51
didn't know who it was, and they sent the details
48:53
out to three different organizations, came back with the same
48:55
result. 100% of the people after six
48:57
weeks who went through my program for six days,
48:59
not one had any sense of clinical depression. 17%
49:02
of the people they put in had
49:04
suicidal ideation, constantly thinking of suicide.
49:07
Not a single person did it. They followed up 11 months
49:09
later, they were going to do 12 months, but COVID people
49:11
were coming back to work and so
49:14
forth. So they had all the statistics on
49:16
the general population, so they did an 11-month
49:18
study. Nobody depressed anymore, but more importantly, their
49:20
negative emotions had dropped 72%, their positive emotions
49:22
had gone up 51%. Now they're doing a
49:26
one-year study right now on engagement.
49:30
In a business, the more engaged your
49:32
employees are, the more successful the business
49:34
is, the more profitable it is. And they
49:36
look at engagement, disengagement, and active disengagement. Well,
49:40
disengagement is somebody that's quiet quitting is what we call
49:42
it now. They're trying to do the least possible. Active
49:44
disengagement is loud quitting. They're pissed off and they're trying
49:47
to hurt the company but still get
49:49
paid for a period of time until they're
49:51
gone. And during COVID, for those four years, we
49:53
had the lowest level of engagement in history and
49:56
the highest level of active disengagement, people angry.
49:58
Like you see people planes now, so
50:01
mean, and restaurants and things like that. They
50:03
were pushed down so long now they've got
50:05
this agitated state still what's going on. But
50:07
anyway, the bottom line is it's a one-year
50:09
study. Usually these are one month, three month
50:11
studies, 30 or 40 people, 750 people
50:14
for a year. It just completed. I
50:16
only saw the six month mark. I'm gonna see the
50:18
other but they said it's incredible. The
50:20
people literally made up their engagement completely
50:22
transformed, made up for four years and
50:24
then some improved. And then for the
50:27
11 or six months I saw it
50:29
afterwards. Every month it got better and I never saw them again
50:31
because they have a different psyche. So there's
50:33
no question, this is published in the Journal of
50:35
Psychiatry, the first study I told you about. Not
50:38
one phone call from anybody. And people still sell
50:40
those drugs because it's like we're so trained to
50:42
be a certain way. But for people that are
50:44
hungry and people want a solution, there are many.
50:46
I'm not the only one but there are many
50:49
that actually work and all you have to do
50:51
is find there isn't a problem that we can't
50:53
solve. Every problem that mankind has created, mankind can
50:55
solve. And we're all part of man or humankind,
50:57
man or woman, it doesn't matter. Yep. I
51:00
recently and correct me if I'm wrong because I feel like you
51:03
would know this. There
51:05
was things that I had to practice. When I was
51:07
depressed, I was hanging around with people I should have
51:09
been hanging out with. I had to retrain my brain
51:11
into behaving. And it was it was kind of like
51:13
I was a psychopath. If I was angry because when
51:15
I was depressed I was angry. So say somebody was
51:17
walking by and he pissed me off. I'll say something
51:20
negative about him in my head but then I made
51:22
myself say three nice things about him in my head.
51:24
Because I was like truly it was my fear of
51:26
God, right? I didn't want God to make me look
51:28
at me and I mean I didn't want him to
51:30
look at me looking at another son of his and
51:32
I'm just talking trash and then still asking him to
51:34
come help me. And then
51:37
when I was getting myself out of it I learned and I
51:39
want to know if this is right but
51:41
your brain can't be depressed and grateful at
51:43
the same time. That's what you talked about
51:45
before exactly. I have a process to show
51:47
people the two emotions that mess up your
51:49
relationships, that mess up your life, that mess
51:51
up your career, your business, is
51:53
fear and anger, right? Those two extremes.
51:56
And when you're grateful, simplistic as that
51:59
sounds. when I say grateful, I don't mean
52:01
intellectually grateful. I mean, you really feel it. I have a process
52:03
I do every day for that that I teach people to do
52:05
for 10 minutes. And when you're
52:07
really grateful, you can't be grateful and fearful
52:09
simultaneously. You can't be angry and grateful simultaneously.
52:12
So that's the power of that. One emotion
52:14
is really powerful to rid or get it
52:16
out of your body. And what you did
52:18
perfectly was you caught yourself and broke the
52:21
pattern. It was a habit and
52:23
you caught yourself, said, no, I'm gonna do this.
52:25
And you did three new good things. Broke it,
52:27
did it again, three new things. Now you had
52:29
strong enough reasons to do it because yours is,
52:31
I gotta do this for God. Not everybody has
52:33
that belief system, but they might do it for
52:35
their child. They might do it for
52:37
their husband or wife. Most of us, I think one of
52:39
the most beautiful things about human beings, what
52:41
makes us gorgeous as beings is
52:43
that we'll do more for others than we'll even
52:46
do for ourselves. And as somebody
52:48
who loves, somebody who care about, whether it be
52:50
your kid, whether it be somebody else. And so
52:52
sometimes that's what's needed. But you need leverage, you
52:54
have leverage, something that makes change a must. And
52:57
then you have to rewire yourself. The reason
52:59
these people lasted by the way, they followed
53:01
me, Stanford had a group that followed me
53:03
for three years prior and they measured my
53:05
body when I'm in these audiences, 10, 15,
53:07
20,000 people for
53:09
12 hours a day, four days in a row, seven days in
53:11
a row in these stadiums. And they wanted to
53:13
see what my body did. So I found
53:16
all these interesting statistics like, I
53:18
jump a thousand times on an average day, one
53:20
of those days and I weigh 290 pounds. So
53:23
every time I come down, it's four times your
53:25
body weight. So imagine a thousand pounds, a thousand
53:27
times in a day. And I've been doing that
53:29
for 47 years. How's your knees? My
53:32
knees are actually great. My bones though are
53:34
like, they did my bone density. They go,
53:36
these are humans, these are ultra athletes. This
53:38
is something we've never seen before. Gorilla called
53:40
you, right? Cause the demands
53:42
were so intense, but also, you know, if you've
53:44
ever been running with a friend and
53:47
you can't speak anymore, that's cause the
53:49
lactic acid has gotten to about a
53:51
four. I'm an 18 and still speaking.
53:54
I have the lean body mass of NFL
53:56
Defensive lineman, right? So You go through all this stuff and
53:58
what I do. The most powerful thing
54:01
was we saw that every time I go
54:03
on stage there's this thing they call when
54:05
they do these measurements on like the Tom
54:07
Brady's of the World are. They did am
54:09
on ninth of Hockey teams that won over
54:12
again like the Tampa Bay Lightning team that
54:14
come from mine and when they wanted to
54:16
see what happens biochemically and still be discover
54:18
something. Saw a guy like Tom Brady is
54:21
down by ten points of the Fourth Quarter
54:23
Superbowl. He wins How on earth He has
54:25
a surge of testosterone which makes you focused,
54:27
it puts you in the zone and you
54:29
also. In here is going on. you
54:32
remember every detail when you have
54:34
enough testosterone, but usually you also
54:36
get cortisol that's the stress hormone
54:38
simultaneously in this championship physiology use
54:40
of his explosion of this driving
54:42
testosterone and a course or drops
54:44
off the cliffs all you get
54:46
his maximum output stuff a guarantee
54:48
you can win but it maximizes
54:50
your possibilities are moving at a
54:52
different. Place. A
54:54
Dick. Holy different biochemical psychological face facts and
54:56
so I do that every time A gun
54:58
safety follow me to three and a half
55:00
years and and it burned eleven thousand three
55:02
hundred calories given idea one day on states
55:04
to reach Can believe his father did all
55:06
this. suspect that this happens every time a
55:08
your idols and on the state or with
55:10
up into the top of his third level
55:12
of stadium and so forth on I'm always
55:14
in the room you never woman a strikes
55:16
but was interesting was then they started measuring
55:18
my audience. And. That's how
55:20
they can understand why these changes have lasted of
55:23
ago houses last the just from once as are
55:25
you feeding us a look. At what
55:27
we feed off each other they did it when
55:29
my live audience mm when I started going digital
55:32
seminars where people like fifty countries they went to
55:34
fifteen countries and while we're doing the seminars they
55:36
do the same thing to me I've or this
55:38
device that measured married or ability and so forth.
55:41
The came and took my so live and see
55:43
what's happening my hormones took my blood they did
55:45
the same thing with these people and guess what
55:47
they saw it looks like a song like everybody's
55:49
different and then all the sudden it begins and
55:52
as I start searching up the audience is biochemistry
55:54
matches mind the cortisol drops off the test round
55:56
process runs. Through here and that's mighty Storm
55:58
through the fire has. That's why, like a
56:00
bonus you were. We were nine eleven. Any person
56:03
around the world, even Mount Americans, can tell you
56:05
where they were, what they saw the moment they
56:07
sought. Ask you where you won
56:09
eleven? You have no clue because you didn't have
56:11
the surge about energy, that emotion, and those biochemical
56:13
changes. So that's why this last, and that's why
56:16
we're So it's when you catch yourself and rewire
56:18
yourself. Yes, you're doing something behaviorally, but you also
56:20
making biochemical changes when you do it. and if
56:22
you do it over and over again, it just
56:25
becomes the new habit than the way of being
56:27
him. And you have to work at. Night
56:29
you just have a new quality of life. For.
56:32
Colonel. A Lily I told
56:34
ya has sit here and students say
56:36
a sob either is something I wrote.
56:38
I want to read it verbatim. from
56:40
what are you sad because I want
56:43
to top And and Ninety ninety One
56:45
you are Wrote the book awakened. The
56:47
Giant within has thirty One Well, and
56:49
there was this one thing that caught
56:51
my heart and had to write this
56:53
because I really pray that this sits
56:55
with a lot of people in our
56:57
generation because Og also explain why it's
56:59
the Niagara Syndrome. Or yes, they jump
57:01
into a lake of life not knowing.
57:03
Where they're gonna end up. And. They get
57:05
caught in the current, the current events,
57:08
the current fears, the current challenges. They
57:10
get directed by their environment and not
57:12
their values. The
57:15
the time when you wrote that the current
57:17
was strong. but now because a social media
57:19
the current is raging. agree with you. How
57:23
could you explain this to
57:25
children that are being risen
57:27
not by their parents, but
57:30
by tablets, by I phones,
57:32
by social media on. How
57:35
do we get some to not jump
57:37
and yet without knowing their values? And
57:39
then when we come from a home
57:41
that doesn't have a leading father that
57:43
doesn't demonstrate good values, how does a
57:45
man even find good? Sally's. Well.
57:49
When. I was. nineteen
57:51
or twenty i just learned some of
57:53
these skills skills i started to myself
57:55
i can really produce lasting change in
57:57
the first thing i thought was and
57:59
how all these people coming to these little events back then,
58:01
there were 50, 100 people, 150 people. But
58:05
I wanna help somebody one-on-one, I wanna mentor
58:08
somebody. So I went there, in Chino Prison
58:10
System in California, they had a thing called
58:12
the M2 program, match two people. And
58:14
so I got matched with this guy that was a murderer. And
58:17
I came in and met with him twice a month,
58:20
like clockwork, and he
58:22
didn't have any of those values, I helped him discover
58:25
them. When I say didn't have them, we
58:27
all have values. There's something distinct in the
58:29
human creature that knows right from wrong, regardless
58:31
of how you've been conditioned. You know, your
58:33
conditioning can cover it up. But
58:35
at a core level, we know what's important.
58:38
It's kind of wired into so we wouldn't
58:40
survive as a species. It's why we succeed,
58:42
we succeed, not because of one individual, we
58:44
succeed because we create communities that
58:46
can solve any problem. One person can't solve a lot of
58:48
problems, but a group of people can. So
58:50
anyway, I worked in that environment, and
58:52
I got to see that within a
58:54
few months, I got to change this
58:56
physiology, because that's what I start with. Start with the body
58:58
and then you'll get the mind, right? What do you explain this, if
59:00
you don't mind me asking? Was he
59:02
out of shape? Was he not? No,
59:05
he's in prison and he's doing nothing,
59:07
but being rageful, angry. But was he
59:09
like that before prison? Yes. Okay.
59:12
But in prison, it's magnified, as you can imagine. So you
59:14
absolutely have to start first with your body. I start with
59:16
the body, I think it's the fastest way to shift. There's
59:18
lots of ways, sometimes I start with other ways, but you
59:20
just think about it. If someone is sitting here like this,
59:24
and they're talking like this, and they make
59:26
gestures like this, and they... because
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people how to make changes quickly, but then to make
1:00:46
it lock in, you need rituals, right?
1:00:48
You're gonna have lots of goals, but
1:00:50
goals don't meet squats, like New Year's. People have
1:00:52
set a New Year's resolution and 91% of people
1:00:54
never even get close to covering it because
1:00:57
they have this thing they want or they have no
1:00:59
plan or they have a little crappy plan, but they
1:01:01
don't have rituals, like things you're gonna do every day
1:01:03
that make it automatic, like the ones you're creating. Like,
1:01:05
if I do that, I'm gonna do this instead. You
1:01:07
do that, and after a while, you don't have to
1:01:09
think about the ritual, it takes over. It'll start to
1:01:11
happen automatically for you, right? So when
1:01:13
I look at these situations like working with these people,
1:01:16
I looked at it and said, okay, anyone
1:01:18
can get those values. They have to be awakened. I
1:01:20
start with a body, and so all of a sudden,
1:01:23
he started running, and pretty soon, he's running two and
1:01:25
three miles in a day, doing all these pushups, and
1:01:27
all of a sudden, he's owning himself. He feels in
1:01:29
control of his body. Why don't you take control of
1:01:31
one part of yourself with discipline? I always tell people,
1:01:34
my original teacher, Jim Rohn, you say discipline weighs ounces,
1:01:36
regret weighs tons. Like, if you
1:01:38
want to have a great life, you gotta learn to
1:01:40
discipline yourself, and if you discipline yourself in one area,
1:01:43
it's amazing, you'll start disciplining yourself in others, and
1:01:45
discipline sounds like a negative word, but what it
1:01:47
really means is taking back control, and
1:01:50
so I watched that, then I started feeding him books to
1:01:52
read, as a man thinks it, so he started to feel
1:01:54
his thoughts are controlling and so forth, and by the time
1:01:56
he got out, he got out eight
1:01:58
years later. different human being,
1:02:00
a loving human being, control of his life, a
1:02:02
peaceful human being. So the answer to your question
1:02:05
is, it's great to have a father, but unfortunately,
1:02:07
many of us, I had four different ones, they
1:02:09
didn't stick around. Many of us didn't have that
1:02:11
strong father, but we can find that in a
1:02:13
mentor. And we're in a world
1:02:15
today where if you're conscious, you can go
1:02:17
find those mentors because those people are online
1:02:19
or you can join an organization or something
1:02:21
of that nature. So the answer to your
1:02:23
question on a simplistic level is, yes, it's
1:02:25
great to have a father, but not all
1:02:27
fathers are there, not all fathers are great
1:02:29
fathers. But there's always someone out there
1:02:31
that if you can show you're out for something
1:02:34
more than yourself, and you're trying
1:02:36
to accomplish something, somebody will move in your direction.
1:02:38
That's the grace of life. But you have to
1:02:40
first show your committed, you got to show you're
1:02:42
going to do something in my opinion, that to
1:02:44
me is what it takes. And social media, you're
1:02:47
never going to teach these kids not
1:02:49
to do these things, they're going to have
1:02:51
to experience things, unfortunately, that are painful, what
1:02:53
you really need is get to the parents.
1:02:55
That's what really matters. But there's so many
1:02:57
absent parents, they because they're so stressed out,
1:02:59
they don't have to manage their own states.
1:03:01
So it's not an easy thing. I don't
1:03:03
pretend there is. But I think that's why
1:03:05
communities, churches, environments where people are conscious about
1:03:08
wanting to support one another are so valuable, and
1:03:10
you can find it in many different ways, but
1:03:12
you have to pursue it. God
1:03:16
moves to those that are willing to do their
1:03:18
part. I mean, if they thought without action is
1:03:20
nothing, right? So it's like, you've got to do
1:03:22
your part. You may not know everything. But if
1:03:24
you start taking a few steps, you'll get momentum,
1:03:27
you'll go on the journey we talked about, right,
1:03:29
you'll meet new people, you'll have some new mentors,
1:03:31
you'll face some new dragons, but then you'll learn
1:03:33
to slay them, you'll develop skills and abilities you
1:03:35
didn't know you had, you'll slay the dragon, and
1:03:38
you'll come home the hero of your own life.
1:03:40
And now you have gifts to give people because
1:03:42
you've earned it, because you've become someone, you weren't
1:03:44
just sitting around telling people your opinion or
1:03:46
virtual signaling. But look, the
1:03:49
pendulum always swings very far. And
1:03:51
then it swings back. We're swinging about as far
1:03:53
as I can imagine right now in our society,
1:03:56
probably going to go further than I even imagined. But
1:03:58
I think we're going to find balance. There's a lot of
1:04:00
young people coming back to God right now. And
1:04:03
the Z generation, they're like, it's amazing. People say
1:04:05
they don't care. The millennials had a little different
1:04:07
frame, not all of them, but some of them.
1:04:09
But the Z generation is having a different, I
1:04:12
think that's the other part of history
1:04:15
that's great. Like if you wanna
1:04:17
know history, I'm gonna give
1:04:19
it to you in four sentences. Good times create weak people.
1:04:23
Weak people create bad times.
1:04:26
Bad times create strong people and
1:04:28
strong people create great times. That's the
1:04:31
history of the world. It's a cycle that we go
1:04:33
through. And right now we're in the cycle where a
1:04:35
lot of people that are weak, silence
1:04:39
is violence, words are violence. Heard Chris Rockley,
1:04:41
they said, if you think words are violence,
1:04:43
no one has slapped the shit out of
1:04:46
you on national television. I'm like,
1:04:48
no words are not violence, right? And now
1:04:50
some people saying words are violence are saying,
1:04:52
oh yeah, somebody can chop off the heads
1:04:54
of children, rape women, and oh,
1:04:56
by the way, that's totally okay. I'm not saying what
1:04:58
anybody else has been okay, but that's totally okay. It's
1:05:01
justified. I mean, same people saying words are violence.
1:05:03
So we're in a weird position right now, but
1:05:06
that calls to people to the point where
1:05:08
they get humbled, because
1:05:11
they don't know what to do. And when you
1:05:13
get humbled, you tend to look for something beyond
1:05:15
yourself, something deeper in this world, call
1:05:17
it grace, call it God, call it universal
1:05:20
intelligence. I don't limit people to say, well, use
1:05:22
the words I would use. Everyone has their own
1:05:24
way of reaching that. I'm respectful of that. But
1:05:27
they gotta find it, or they're gonna feel
1:05:29
really empty inside. I
1:05:31
love the way you move. You show grace to everyone.
1:05:34
And I was just telling Billy, we
1:05:37
were talking about something personal, and the reason I overcame it
1:05:39
is because when I was reading the scripture, it
1:05:42
just dawned on me. I go, Jesus always
1:05:44
knew Judas was going to betray him, but
1:05:46
he always treated him like the other disciples. Yeah. There's
1:05:50
power in that. And then they come up
1:05:52
to him and they're like, you gotta pay taxes. And he's like,
1:05:54
I gotta pay taxes. Who's on
1:05:56
the coin? They go Caesar. I go and give to Caesar what
1:05:59
Caesar's and give to God. God and
1:06:02
but then he said something that's even more powerful after
1:06:04
that he says but those so we don't offend him
1:06:07
and I just pause it he goes but so
1:06:10
that we do not offend them and then he
1:06:12
went with them and I thought to myself I
1:06:14
go my God I go the only way I could
1:06:16
reach a man is by love it
1:06:18
is by love it is only love because if I looked
1:06:21
at you and I listen dude you're a dumb piece of
1:06:23
shit and I'll tell you why I guarantee
1:06:25
you that person is now out because he knows
1:06:27
that you don't love him and you don't care for
1:06:29
him but if I go hey Tony um you
1:06:32
know I think that I think you would
1:06:34
be more sincere and eager to listen because
1:06:36
you know it's coming from somebody who cares
1:06:38
about you I understandably
1:06:40
if I try to teach anybody that I work
1:06:42
with who works with people coaches
1:06:45
trainers therapists all those types
1:06:47
of people I said you know you can't influence somebody
1:06:49
if you're judging them I mean
1:06:51
it's possible but you're not gonna influence most people
1:06:53
by judge the only way can influence them is
1:06:55
for them to feel how much you sincerely care
1:06:57
and people don't trust that initially I remember I
1:06:59
have a friend right now that I've known for
1:07:02
about I don't know probably 30 years and
1:07:05
he that quote you get from one
1:07:07
of my books when I was like a week in the giant
1:07:09
within I think I was 30 years old and I wrote that
1:07:11
book and you were describing that opening to that event where I
1:07:13
was flying in the helicopter and I was worried
1:07:16
that people are gonna make to my event because there's all
1:07:18
this traffic you know forever as far as the eye could
1:07:20
see and it was my event it was like 15,000 people
1:07:22
and I blew my mind well he was in that
1:07:24
event so give you an idea and he's been
1:07:26
a friend for 30 years maybe 25 years where it's been and
1:07:29
he told he's told several people you know Tony won
1:07:32
me over he goes I got dragged there by somebody
1:07:34
I thought this is BS this is a bunch of
1:07:36
crap and I'm not jumping and doing this stuff and
1:07:38
in those days I wear a suit and tie it
1:07:40
was the style of those days so I'm on stage
1:07:43
and you could see the sweat just going down the
1:07:45
tide for some time holy fuck my shirt was soaked
1:07:47
I was sweating like crazy I was giving my soul
1:07:49
he said after he did that he goes I thought
1:07:51
to mess I could jump a few times that son
1:07:53
of a bitch can do that push that stuff so
1:07:56
I think you got to go first you
1:07:58
can't lecture people You got
1:08:00
to be an example, not like you're
1:08:02
perfect or some bullshit. Nobody is. But
1:08:05
where you're willing to see what isn't working and improve
1:08:07
it, and you're willing to constantly find a way to
1:08:09
be better. And if you do that, life's amazing. But
1:08:11
I think there's interesting thing about the Bible that I
1:08:14
don't know if you agree with or not, but I'll
1:08:16
share it with you from my perspective. One
1:08:18
of my sons, when he finally
1:08:21
found Christ, he... You know, a lot of
1:08:23
people, when they find God in whatever form they find God, they
1:08:25
believe that they have found the way and everyone
1:08:27
else should do it that way, right? And his
1:08:29
way was kind of hellfire and damnation at the
1:08:32
time, right? And I'm
1:08:34
cursing myself, right? So it's like, he's lecturing me.
1:08:36
He's just blowing my mind, right? So one day I was
1:08:38
in Fiji, I have a resort there and a time there,
1:08:40
and that's with my wife. And I was like, you know,
1:08:43
I'm not going to influence my son by talking
1:08:45
about this. I said, I
1:08:48
need to read the whole Bible from beginning to end.
1:08:50
I want to do it over the next four or five days. I want to go on
1:08:52
a fast, which is what I did. And I
1:08:54
fasted and read the entire Bible in five days. My
1:08:57
wife will tell you, no bullshit, read the whole thing,
1:08:59
cover to cover. And it's
1:09:01
quite a read. But when you read it... I
1:09:03
might say the best in the world. You sold
1:09:05
a lot of books, but my man Jesus Christ
1:09:07
is a little heavier than you, bro. I
1:09:10
read the Old Testament and the New Testament, right? So read
1:09:12
them both, right? The Old thing, right? And one thing struck me
1:09:14
that I thought was really interesting, and I went to my
1:09:16
son with this because he was so locked up and he's not
1:09:18
like that now. He's much more... It's like, I hate it. I
1:09:21
often tell people the worst thing about Christians sometimes
1:09:23
is Christians, you know? Christ
1:09:25
was not a Christian. You know, we've made this
1:09:27
whole thing up here. Like, this is how it
1:09:30
is, right? My son is becoming like that. I
1:09:32
don't want that. But at the same time... You're
1:09:34
so accurate with that, man. Like, when I was
1:09:36
speaking about Jesus, I made a joke to my
1:09:38
mom. I go, the only people that come at
1:09:40
me are Jesus lovers. Like, Muslims are like, I'm
1:09:42
so proud of you. Jewish people are like, I
1:09:44
respect you. Christians are like, nah. I'm
1:09:46
like, what? They all got their judgment. How it should be,
1:09:48
what should be, right? As if they
1:09:50
had the direct communication. So anyway, I went to
1:09:52
my son after I read this whole thing. And
1:09:55
I thought a lot about it. And I said, you know what? He
1:09:57
actually, I just read the whole Bible from cover to cover. He's like,
1:09:59
no. And my wife's there. She
1:10:01
goes, he did it day and night in Fiji,
1:10:04
five days, eat pineapple, watermelon, and drank water. That
1:10:06
was it. That was fast the entire time. I
1:10:09
says, it was a wild journey. I said, it was beautiful. I
1:10:12
said, then a couple of things, you know,
1:10:15
kind of came to me. I said, the
1:10:17
first thing that came to me is God seems
1:10:19
like a selfish bastard in the first half
1:10:21
of that book. I
1:10:24
said, he's mean, he's jealous,
1:10:26
he's spiteful. I
1:10:29
said, that's not my experience of God. And
1:10:31
maybe the second half of the Bible, right?
1:10:33
This estimate is like God is, it's not
1:10:35
just about one, it's everybody and everyone
1:10:37
can experience this joy and this love. And I
1:10:40
said, so I said, I got a question
1:10:42
for you. Because he was
1:10:44
like, this is what the Bible says. And rather
1:10:46
than saying, look, the Bible has been translated by
1:10:48
men, every group of Romans that may decide what
1:10:50
went in and what went out. And we found
1:10:53
missing pieces of the Bible, all that stuff. I
1:10:55
just simply said, do you
1:10:57
think God grows? He
1:11:00
looked at me and said, what are you saying?
1:11:02
Is this technique? I said, it's not a
1:11:04
technique. I said, it's a simple question. Because
1:11:06
I mean the first time in the Bible and God
1:11:08
seems very selfish and spiteful and
1:11:10
mean. And second part, totally completely
1:11:13
loving. So I said, everything in
1:11:15
the universe grows or dies. God
1:11:18
knows what's going to happen for, what's going to happen,
1:11:20
knows your thoughts. I said, I'll buy all that. But
1:11:22
my question is not that. He goes, well, then you're
1:11:24
saying it doesn't mean the same thing as the words.
1:11:26
I said, no, I just said, does God grow? He
1:11:31
really thought about it for a little bit. And
1:11:33
I said, cause my concern is your experience of
1:11:35
God is through a minister, which I think it's
1:11:37
a beautiful thing, but I'd love it if you'd
1:11:39
had a direct experience of God. And
1:11:42
that was what you're making judgments from rather than
1:11:44
what somebody else tells you. I'd love to have
1:11:46
you read that same Bible and see what your
1:11:48
experience it is rather than someone telling you what
1:11:50
it means to their filters. And
1:11:52
that's the only thing I wish I wish everybody's
1:11:54
experience of God, quite frankly, was as unique as
1:11:56
your signature. So instead of fighting over, you have
1:11:59
to have my signature. Everybody
1:12:01
wanted to have their own individual signature, their own
1:12:03
individual connection with God. That's the connection that I
1:12:05
personally experience in a way I perceive God. And
1:12:08
so that's why I don't try to make other people to be
1:12:10
a certain way, or my way is, or somebody else's way is.
1:12:13
I just want them to experience the joy
1:12:15
of knowing that they're not alone and that
1:12:17
they're made of something way more than their
1:12:19
intellect and their ego. I love that you
1:12:21
challenge your son in ways
1:12:23
that are uncomfortable, because you know there's a lot
1:12:25
of men that are like, I don't want my
1:12:27
son to get like this, I don't want to
1:12:30
get... and they spare the rod. You
1:12:32
get what I'm saying? Listen, the
1:12:35
reason I have my utmost respect for
1:12:37
God is because my father made me
1:12:39
respect him. And so I
1:12:41
had a way to look at my father. I'll give you
1:12:43
an example. People are
1:12:45
like, well wait, if God presents
1:12:47
himself, then okay, listen. Listen.
1:12:53
My father is an Assyrian
1:12:56
man that has flesh. Do
1:12:58
you know what that man would do to me? If
1:13:00
I was ever like, you come over here, and I need you,
1:13:03
come here. My dad would be like, me come here, me come
1:13:05
here. And then he would dismantle
1:13:08
me where I stand and
1:13:10
then reshape my mind to
1:13:12
know that there comes with respect. I
1:13:15
have to respect my father. I'm not going to make my
1:13:17
father get up so he could come to me. I'm going
1:13:19
to get up to go to my father. And
1:13:21
I really, really do feel the same way that we communicate
1:13:23
right here. You'll understand me
1:13:25
more if there's love. If you're not
1:13:27
coming and presenting yourself fully humbly and surrendering
1:13:30
yourself with love, I don't
1:13:32
think God's going to even want to talk to you. Well,
1:13:34
what if you're God, and you come here to this
1:13:36
incredible place you created called Planet Earth, and
1:13:39
you walk up to one of your creations and you
1:13:41
say, hey creation, this is so-and-so,
1:13:43
Mr. so-and-so. How are
1:13:45
you liking this thing I created for you? And the person says,
1:13:47
God, I'm glad you showed up because I got a bone to
1:13:49
pick with you. I mean, first of all, why do you make
1:13:51
it so effing hot all the time? I mean, you could have
1:13:54
made it 72 degrees year round
1:13:56
here. I mean, it's insane. And then you make
1:13:58
these stupid people that get it right. my
1:14:00
way and either feel whether I'm trying to accomplish. Why
1:14:02
wouldn't you make everybody nice and connected? And you make
1:14:04
these little red ass, these little red ass, they bite
1:14:06
my ass. I mean, why would you create such a
1:14:08
thing of your God? And
1:14:11
then God goes to one of his other creations and says,
1:14:13
how are you liking this place? And they say, oh God,
1:14:15
thank God you're here. I've always
1:14:17
wanted to thank you directly. This
1:14:19
is the most amazing paradise. It's so unbelievable. First
1:14:21
of all, you never get bored because you're always
1:14:23
changing the temperature. It's so amazing. You bring so
1:14:26
many people to challenge me to grow. And you
1:14:28
make these little red ass, man, these things
1:14:30
are courageous. They're one millionth by size, they
1:14:32
bite my ass. It's amazing. You know, now
1:14:34
the question is, if you were God, who
1:14:36
do you want to hang out with the
1:14:39
first person or the second one? Wow. So
1:14:41
I tell people say there is no God. I said, there's God just
1:14:43
bitching so much. I just want to hang out with you. I
1:14:49
got a Christian joke. There's a bunch
1:14:51
of scientists and they're like,
1:14:53
God, I don't know if you knew about AI,
1:14:55
but we figured it out, buddy. We don't need
1:14:57
you. In fact, we all smirked at each other.
1:14:59
Like we could create humans now. And God sits
1:15:01
back and goes, really? He goes, Oh yeah. Oh
1:15:04
yeah. He goes, look at show me. So they
1:15:06
look at each other knowing the old Testament. They
1:15:08
grabbed dirt with their hands and he goes, uh,
1:15:10
that's mine. Get your own. It
1:15:14
all comes from God. I, I, that, that joke always made
1:15:16
me laugh. I'm going to share with you. But
1:15:18
well, with my son, what interesting thing is to
1:15:20
his credit was, you know, it created an
1:15:22
opening cause it created a thought
1:15:24
that couldn't get out of his head. Does
1:15:26
God grow? Okay. Well then I want the
1:15:28
Bible to guide me, but I also need
1:15:30
to do my part and see everything's evolving.
1:15:32
But the core principles of love, they're
1:15:35
part of every religion. Truthfully, they're what
1:15:37
is the core truth. I neighbor, like myself,
1:15:40
lovely neighbor, like myself, right? Which by the
1:15:42
way, implies that you would actually love yourself,
1:15:44
not fake love, ego love, but
1:15:46
a depth of caring for yourself because you care
1:15:48
for yourself. You care for others when you're beating
1:15:50
yourself up all the time. Pretty soon you can't
1:15:53
handle it. Now you're in other people's faces because
1:15:55
you're so raw, you can't handle it anymore. So
1:15:57
I Just think there's, there's certain universal principles.
1:16:00
Bring lasting outfits and the most important voice
1:16:03
I believe besides love is Grace Because when
1:16:05
you grow everly girls or guys warm and
1:16:07
you don't grow you pay a big price
1:16:10
and will you do grow. You have something
1:16:12
to give and what makes people's life meaningful
1:16:14
is not what it would. Anybody can make
1:16:16
themselves feel good with very few things you
1:16:19
can food, alcohol, have sex with yourself for
1:16:21
the comfort of but it's never as good
1:16:23
by yourself. Now with love with love with
1:16:25
with connection. So when something great happens in
1:16:28
your life the person want to do is
1:16:30
share with somebody and that makes it more.
1:16:32
That's why we have relationships. So I just
1:16:35
think. You. Know Why Does the quality
1:16:37
relationships with cause of relationship with yourself, with your
1:16:39
creative, with your family, with your friends. That's the
1:16:41
quality of a person's life. Everything else is secondary
1:16:43
to that. I wrote something down and I've never
1:16:46
said a solid I want to say to you
1:16:48
and I want to see how you feel about
1:16:50
it and if is the correct way to go
1:16:52
that it's because I'm Shauna Be a Tony Why
1:16:54
don't have as good as I don't know? There's
1:16:57
a correct way for anything there's There's many ways
1:16:59
to get Places are some words joy A both
1:17:01
some that are easier summit succeed faster but I
1:17:03
don't have the right wrong mode within me. About.
1:17:06
How about something? Asks. Why?
1:17:10
But I would say that's exactly what
1:17:12
Tony with so. Ah,
1:17:16
I'm. Reading through comments and I was as gotta go
1:17:18
to I want you to challenge my heart on things
1:17:20
you want me to talk about so that way when
1:17:22
I see as I noted as a great amount of
1:17:24
people are wash my starts at eight a his figure
1:17:26
out to give me was the right like it How
1:17:29
do I figure this out and I'm enjoying this thought.
1:17:32
To. They'll feel like we live in and in an industry.
1:17:34
That in as generation where we have identity issues
1:17:36
and all shapes and forms and the one
1:17:38
identity issue that I see more than anything as
1:17:40
I don't know who I am, I don't
1:17:42
know what I want to become. I
1:17:44
don't know my passions are. I don't
1:17:47
know anything. About myself on.
1:17:50
And something. Came. To me
1:17:52
at or N N are I wanted it
1:17:54
bounces ideal for the this is my hypothesis.
1:17:58
maybe you don't know who you are because
1:18:00
you haven't revealed who your creator is. If
1:18:04
I broke my car and it's a Toyota, I'm not
1:18:06
taking it to Hyundai because the first thing they do
1:18:08
when they pop open the hood, they go, I didn't
1:18:10
create this. I don't know what's inside of this.
1:18:13
And I feel like the people that
1:18:16
I meet that know God know their purpose. And
1:18:18
there are some Christians that are like, hey, like
1:18:20
I still don't know. I know God. I love
1:18:22
God. And to me it's like, okay,
1:18:24
well, how much do you know God? Truly
1:18:27
how much do you know God? And
1:18:29
I really, really have came to the conclusion that if
1:18:31
you do not know who you are, you do not
1:18:33
know who created you. Because
1:18:35
once you find out who created you, the Bible verse
1:18:38
that hits me in the head right away is seek
1:18:40
first the kingdom and then the rest shall come.
1:18:43
What does that even mean? Well, I could tell you
1:18:45
from a man that I was in a place where I shouldn't be.
1:18:48
And I asked God, take my feet and place them
1:18:51
where you want them to be, not where I
1:18:53
want them to be. Because as
1:18:55
a child, I'll give you an example, how
1:18:57
my relationship in Hollywood was. This
1:18:59
is the best way that I could put it
1:19:01
in perspective. I'm a little kid playing
1:19:03
around at the playground and my father in heaven
1:19:06
brought me to this playground. He goes,
1:19:08
okay, go have fun with your friends. And I went and I'm having fun,
1:19:10
but I started acting like them and
1:19:12
I started playing like them. And he calls
1:19:14
me back and goes, hey, hey, hey, come here. What's up? Don't
1:19:17
do this. And I go, well, no, everybody's doing it. He goes, yeah, but
1:19:19
they're not part of our family. We
1:19:22
have respect. We have
1:19:24
different standards, different standards. And
1:19:26
I want to circle back to this right here. It's
1:19:31
easy to mix your standards with everyone
1:19:33
else's. And man, do
1:19:35
I see a lot of copy and paste out there. And
1:19:38
I think we're living in a day and age where
1:19:40
people are so caught up on what everybody else is
1:19:42
doing. They forget to reflect on what they're doing. Well,
1:19:46
it's, it's, you know, the
1:19:48
social media is out of control. What's
1:19:50
that thermos that costs like $45 that kids
1:19:52
now, if they don't have it, they get
1:19:54
hydroflask. What's it called? Hydroflask? No, it's
1:19:56
a different one. It's been around forever. I was just
1:19:58
reading about the other day. Are you talking about
1:20:00
the mug? Yes. I just read about it.
1:20:03
Like five women took it out. It was like the
1:20:05
company was broke. Yeah. It's been around since 1910 or
1:20:07
something like that. And
1:20:11
now these kids, they all want a $45 firmness
1:20:14
because they see everybody else in TikTok has and if
1:20:17
they don't, they get bullied. Oh, that's not really one
1:20:19
of those. That's how insane it is. But it's always
1:20:21
been insane. It's just more insane with social media. It's
1:20:23
magnified it. Yeah. And I just think, look, the
1:20:26
pathway to finding, quote,
1:20:28
your purpose, I think the biggest mistake is thinking
1:20:31
you have one purpose. We have
1:20:33
lots of purposes. We have different purposes in
1:20:35
each day. There might be an overriding purpose
1:20:37
to grow, to give, to contribute, to love,
1:20:39
whatever, to be an expression of God that
1:20:41
you'd be proud of, that God would be
1:20:43
proud of, whatever your belief is. But there's
1:20:45
so many purposes and people get caught up
1:20:47
in having to create some big purpose. You
1:20:49
know what my purpose is? Doubt. It's
1:20:52
really simple. Something I get calls every day of
1:20:54
my life and it's like, especially now because of
1:20:56
the stage of life I'm in and because I
1:20:58
have so many different skills and businesses and so
1:21:00
forth. Somebody's got a challenge in the business. Somebody's
1:21:03
got cancer. Somebody's got Alzheimer's. Somebody is worried about
1:21:05
something with their kid. And it's like,
1:21:07
I take great joy, even though I only have so
1:21:09
many hours in the day, if I can help them,
1:21:11
that's what I want to do. And it's like, I
1:21:13
don't need to make this grand. I used to have,
1:21:15
I'm going to help billions of people. I've done all
1:21:17
that. Millions of people. It's just be
1:21:19
helpful. To me, that's an expression of
1:21:21
love. It also doesn't have the ego
1:21:24
that I have all the answers. It's just, I can be
1:21:26
helpful. That means you're going to do your part too. That's
1:21:28
why I was told to be, I'm not your guru. And
1:21:30
people try to make me in a guru early days. I mean,
1:21:32
I'm not here. You're not broken. You don't need to be fixed.
1:21:35
But I can be helpful because I have some insights
1:21:37
because I focused on something for 47 years. You're
1:21:40
just like, you could teach. I don't
1:21:42
know squat about singing and sound very good. Hey
1:21:45
man, don't pick lessons from me. Or
1:21:48
music or whatever, right? I have my own enjoyment of it,
1:21:50
but I don't have those skillsets. So everybody,
1:21:52
I look at everybody in my life and I go,
1:21:56
I think this is why I get along with so many
1:21:58
different levels and qualities and types of people. in
1:22:00
countries. I can enter
1:22:02
a country because everybody I meet I believe, and this
1:22:04
is no bullshit, I believe they're superior to me. I
1:22:06
see you as superior to me in some way. I
1:22:08
don't know what it is yet till I meet the
1:22:10
person, and you might be superior to something
1:22:12
I don't want to be superior to, like feeling depressed, but you
1:22:14
might be better at it than I am. But you're going to
1:22:17
be better at something because you have different life experience. I
1:22:19
also, so it makes me respect you, it
1:22:21
makes me hold you here, whoever you are.
1:22:23
And people feel that. They feel respected, they feel
1:22:26
loved, they feel cared for. At the same time,
1:22:28
I'm no like wilting flower. I know
1:22:30
who the F-I-M. And I also know
1:22:32
I'm superior to every person I meet in some areas.
1:22:34
Not because I'm so superior, but because I have a
1:22:36
different set of life experiences, and I've worked at it
1:22:38
for 47 years, and every day said I got to
1:22:40
do it better. And so that
1:22:43
makes me feel equality with people. And
1:22:45
when you have that equality, then all that
1:22:48
other crap goes away, and you're not worried
1:22:50
about what everybody's thinking and doing. And some
1:22:52
of it, honestly, George, is just the experience
1:22:54
of living enough life.
1:22:56
Because, you know, there
1:22:58
are stages of life where you get to, where
1:23:00
you just finally say, I don't give a shit.
1:23:02
Like when you're in your 20s, you're kind of
1:23:05
trying to prove yourself to yourself or to other
1:23:07
people. Maybe your 30s, trying to figure things out.
1:23:09
Your 40s can be, look at seasons
1:23:11
of your life. Zero to 20, you know, you're, you
1:23:13
know, you might have
1:23:15
to go to work early like I did, or some families do, but
1:23:17
you're kind of without for it to some extent. Other people are teaching
1:23:19
you what to believe. 22 to 42, you're the soldier
1:23:22
of society. You go out and
1:23:24
say, they told me that crap, but I'm going to
1:23:26
find out what I believe. I'm going to test it.
1:23:28
I'm going to be president of the United States, a
1:23:31
billionaire, and have 150 relationships simultaneously, and everybody's going to
1:23:33
be happy. Then you go out and find
1:23:35
out relationships are more complex than that. And you're not
1:23:37
the president, you're not yet a billionaire. And so it
1:23:39
humbles you. And then you look to grow. Then you
1:23:41
go like 42, 43 to say 63, that range. If
1:23:43
you worked hard in the first two seasons,
1:23:47
if you planted in the spring and you took
1:23:50
care of it in the summer, you're going to
1:23:52
be reaping. You're going to be in a position
1:23:54
of impact, of power, of quality of life. You're
1:23:56
going to, if you're in business, you're going to
1:23:58
be successful at what you you've
1:24:00
learned and grown, you've been through all the ups and downs,
1:24:02
right? Doesn't mean you're done. And then,
1:24:04
you know, you get, say, 64 to 84 to 104 to
1:24:09
120 of the oldest human beings, somewhere in that
1:24:11
final season, then you're in a
1:24:13
mentor relationship. You've lived enough life, you don't need to
1:24:15
prove anything to anybody if they know who you are
1:24:18
great, they know who cares. Right, quite
1:24:20
frankly, do you want them to like you? If you're human,
1:24:22
do you like people? Yes, but it's
1:24:24
not your life in depth anymore. And
1:24:26
so you're not tied to that proving
1:24:28
to yourself or other people, you just
1:24:31
want to serve. And I
1:24:33
think not everybody gets there because not everybody
1:24:35
grows during all those seasons. But if you
1:24:37
really grow during those seasons, I want people
1:24:39
to know, you look at all the studies,
1:24:41
the most difficult time, most happy on time
1:24:43
for most people is 22 to 23 to 43
1:24:45
range. And
1:24:47
then the next, most, and the
1:24:49
starts to be enjoyable is in that 43, 63. If
1:24:53
you're healthy, the strongest time in life, the
1:24:55
happiest time for human beings is 64 to
1:24:57
about 84 if they stay healthy.
1:24:59
Because you know what matters most, it's
1:25:01
relationships. You know who you are, you
1:25:03
know what you believe. You're just,
1:25:06
you're not being pushed around by the wind, you're not
1:25:08
trying to prove anything. And I wish
1:25:10
more people knew the pathway that's really real so that
1:25:12
when they're in the middle of that crap, they could
1:25:14
still have a compelling future. Because I think that's what's
1:25:16
missing. When you talk about depression, our
1:25:19
society is in a winter season. This
1:25:22
happens about every 20 years we go
1:25:24
through a season. When it's springtime, everybody's
1:25:26
optimistic, everything's going great, if
1:25:29
you know your 20s, pardon me? The
1:25:31
roaring flies. Oh, that's even more like fall. Springtime
1:25:33
would be more like after World War II. After
1:25:36
a winter, a really rough time, people
1:25:38
wanted to have babies that had sex like crazy.
1:25:40
They wanted to, they didn't want to be part
1:25:42
of war. They wanted to build and create. We
1:25:44
have this society that's very optimistic. Then
1:25:46
you go through the 70s and 80s after 20 years of that, from
1:25:50
say 45 to around the time John F. Kennedy
1:25:52
got killed. Now it's a summertime, it's
1:25:55
hot, it's difficult. There's fighting usually historically
1:25:57
between older and younger generations during that
1:25:59
time. They don't go to war. I don't want
1:26:01
to go to war. Then you make it
1:26:03
through, exhaust that, and then there's a fall. Life
1:26:06
is like really easy, really tough.
1:26:08
Really easy, really tough. But if you're a god,
1:26:10
you have a nighttime, the dark night of the
1:26:12
soul, you have the morning where it all is
1:26:14
brand new again. You set it up that way,
1:26:16
right? And it builds muscle. It makes you stronger.
1:26:19
Well, in the fall season, you
1:26:21
like, you know, if it's a fall financially, then, you
1:26:23
know, people want to give you a house even though
1:26:25
you don't have a job, right? You remember those days,
1:26:28
right? Money flows, stock markets go crazy. And then eventually
1:26:30
you go back to winter again. And
1:26:32
we're in winter, where people are seeing the
1:26:34
worst case in almost everything in each other,
1:26:36
in society, in the future. Oh my god,
1:26:39
it might be World War III. Oh, you
1:26:41
know, are we going to survive? And it's
1:26:43
exaggerated during that time. But
1:26:45
we get tired of being fearful, and
1:26:48
we start to grow, and we stop being
1:26:50
as judgmental because it takes so much energy
1:26:52
to be upset all the time. Right
1:26:55
now, people still get energy from being upset.
1:26:57
But pretty soon, they'll start to burn out,
1:27:00
and people start to look for something new. And
1:27:02
that something new will be a new springtime, and the world
1:27:05
would be different. There's going to be some major changes in
1:27:07
this world, they have to be. It's
1:27:09
not a bad time. You can see in snowboard
1:27:11
in the winter, you're going to be with your
1:27:13
family, you can have a great fire, you can
1:27:16
build a business. It's a great time. Don't be
1:27:18
mad at the season, use the season. But don't
1:27:20
think that when it's bad, it's going to be
1:27:22
bad forever. Or when it's good, it's going to
1:27:24
be good forever. Life is cyclical, history is cyclical.
1:27:27
So, it's like you want to take advantage of the
1:27:29
season you're in and have some perspective. If you were
1:27:31
born in 1910, I think I shared this with you
1:27:33
guys before, but for your listeners, if you're born in
1:27:35
1910, you don't have to be history buff. Just
1:27:38
remember that first season of springtime is 20
1:27:40
years in your life, right? You're
1:27:42
born in 1910, while you're growing up, we go through World
1:27:44
War I, it's scary, but you're protected, you're not going to
1:27:47
war. You're a kid. And
1:27:50
some tough times, but then we win the
1:27:52
war, we come back, and then there's this
1:27:54
explosion of technology, just like now. In
1:27:57
a short period of time, a few decades, we got
1:27:59
radios, television, and radio. We got
1:28:01
cars, we got airplanes, we have
1:28:03
tremendous economic abundance after all that,
1:28:05
right? It's a big fall. It's
1:28:07
wonderful. The Roaring Twenties. You
1:28:09
were born in 1910, 1920 or 10 years old. Right
1:28:13
at 19, when you think you're going to go party and have a
1:28:16
car, have a great time, by
1:28:18
the way, all those kids, they were called
1:28:20
flappers. They were looked down
1:28:22
on as a weak generation, like baby
1:28:24
boomers and exers look very often at
1:28:27
millennials and zees. Because truthfully,
1:28:29
millennials and zees are great human beings, but
1:28:31
they don't know what pain is. Because what they
1:28:33
think is pain is when their internet doesn't
1:28:35
work. They can't get their ancestors on their fingers.
1:28:37
So they don't know. I'm not being derogatory.
1:28:39
It's just they don't know, but they're going to
1:28:41
because it's just reciprocal. So what happened to
1:28:43
those people? They turned 19 years old in
1:28:46
1929. People
1:28:48
are jumping out of buildings. The economy drops through
1:28:50
the floor. The middle of the country is a
1:28:52
dust bowl. People are standing in line for bread.
1:28:55
Those weak ass kids became
1:28:58
incredibly strong. And
1:29:00
they made it through 10 years of depression. It
1:29:02
wasn't by when you say winter. It's not like
1:29:05
it's bad every day. It's just the
1:29:07
overall theme is fear. The overall theme is overreaction. And
1:29:09
so if you know what happened to depression, there were
1:29:11
some good times in the middle of the depression and
1:29:13
then bad times, right? The overall theme was painful. What
1:29:16
was the reward for 10 years of
1:29:18
making it through a depression and getting
1:29:20
strong? By the time they're 29, it's
1:29:23
1939 and World War II breaks out and you
1:29:25
and I weren't alive then, but it looked like
1:29:27
Hitler was going to win. He was strafing countries
1:29:29
and taking him over in days. He was bombing
1:29:31
London. It looked like the end
1:29:33
of the world. And those people volunteered to go
1:29:35
fight for that. Those
1:29:37
weak ass kids became unbelievably powerful. They became
1:29:39
known. They won the war, World War II.
1:29:42
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the war like we said everybody was excited
1:30:48
all went well till Kennedy got shot and
1:30:50
then Martin Luther King and then Robert
1:30:52
Kennedy And we went into
1:30:55
a hot summer but think about the 70s and
1:30:57
80s and how they were different than the 90s and 2000s or 2010s and
1:31:01
Listen after 9 11 and after
1:31:03
2008 or in winter winter has
1:31:06
some tough economic times and
1:31:08
winter usually has or Some significant war we're
1:31:10
probably gonna have at least the cyber war with
1:31:12
China We already have one but one that's
1:31:14
more extreme, and we're all gonna have to grow
1:31:16
from it So I think Millennials and Z's
1:31:18
are the new hero generations. They
1:31:21
just haven't gotten there yet They're being getting
1:31:23
prepared because the technology they know how to
1:31:25
use may not a network and communicate all
1:31:27
the good things They've got good values within
1:31:29
themselves when the real tough times come They're
1:31:31
gonna get incredibly strong and they're gonna change
1:31:33
society in a really beautiful way So it's
1:31:35
it's on the verge of happening as we
1:31:37
speak That's what
1:31:39
I mean by good times great weak people We
1:31:42
people great bad times bad times great strong
1:31:44
people strong people good great times That's
1:31:46
really that you can go through century after century
1:31:49
a thousand years of Roman history And you'll see
1:31:51
the same pattern Knowing
1:31:54
that can give you peace though. That's my
1:31:56
point when you recognize patterns. It's
1:31:58
not chaos anymore Oh no, this
1:32:01
is heaven before. Okay, this has a
1:32:03
purpose. Right? I mean, why
1:32:05
would God create winter? Everything looks like it's freezing
1:32:07
and dying. Well, you get rid of the old
1:32:09
and only the strong survive, and then it creates
1:32:11
a new season, the springtime, and new growth, and
1:32:13
new... If things didn't die, there would be no
1:32:15
room for something new to grow. I'm
1:32:18
going to have my time, and I'm going to have to
1:32:20
leave this planet at some point. I don't look forward to
1:32:22
it. But I do look forward to the fact that when
1:32:24
I leave, hopefully, there'll be a lot of souls that I've
1:32:26
contributed to, and a meaningful way I could feel like life
1:32:28
has tremendous meaning. If I die tomorrow,
1:32:30
I get to feel that way. But I also
1:32:32
know that, hey, well, someone
1:32:35
else is going to take this spot. Someone
1:32:37
else is going to have new ways of doing this.
1:32:39
Someone's going to do it better. Someone's going to stand
1:32:41
on the shoulders of the people before them, just like
1:32:43
I stood on the shoulders of people before me. And
1:32:46
I see the beauty in those seasons of life. And
1:32:48
so what it allows me to do is enjoy what
1:32:50
season I'm in, rather than saying, oh my God, you
1:32:52
know, there's only so many years left. Beautifully
1:32:55
said. Amen. You
1:32:57
reap what you sow. Without a doubt. Before
1:33:01
we tap into the new things that you're sowing,
1:33:04
I'm a new, engaged man. Yes,
1:33:07
I know that. Congratulations. Thank you. I appreciate it.
1:33:10
And there's a lot of men right now that, you know,
1:33:12
I feel like the 30s are the new 20s, right? So
1:33:15
there's a lot of men that are... Why
1:33:17
do you laugh at that? Well, because... You don't think
1:33:19
I look 20? No, no, I'm not
1:33:21
looking back. It's just, we've got more
1:33:23
people living at home at 30 years old than any
1:33:25
time in history, including the Depression. And
1:33:28
so I'm looking forward to seeing those people
1:33:30
pushed into a life where they get to grow again,
1:33:32
because you can't be happy when everyone else takes care
1:33:34
of you. You do nothing. And I
1:33:37
feel good for a while. I might feel comfortable, but
1:33:39
you don't have any pride. I don't mean pride
1:33:41
like ego pride. I mean, like when
1:33:43
people talk about self-esteem, I hate that term. It's
1:33:45
so bullshit overused. People think, well, no
1:33:47
one treated me while they said these terrible
1:33:50
things to me, so I have terrible self-esteem.
1:33:52
No. Like, how can you remember
1:33:54
only that? People say good things too, but you
1:33:56
remember those things conveniently, right? Someone could tell your
1:33:58
whole life you're a piece of crap. You're worthless
1:34:00
and some part of you can go, you know
1:34:02
what? I'm gonna show you and you go out
1:34:04
there and crush it in the world, right? Someone
1:34:06
can tell you your whole life. You're beautiful. You're
1:34:08
brilliant. You're amazing You're the best on earth and
1:34:11
you'd feel insecure because you know, you're not It's
1:34:14
not what people say to you The only way
1:34:16
you get self-esteem which means the steam for yourself
1:34:18
is by doing incredibly difficult things And you
1:34:20
know you pushed yourself through it And
1:34:23
then there's an inner pride that no
1:34:25
amount of money No amount of accolades can
1:34:27
match because you could take away everything I quote
1:34:29
have things you can't take away who I've become
1:34:31
as a man That's something
1:34:35
I know You know, I
1:34:37
want to jump into this before I jump into
1:34:39
the engagement thing because this is actually I
1:34:42
grew up in a house where my parents sat me down and they're like
1:34:44
when you turn 18 Well,
1:34:47
they used to say we're not in Mercaya and
1:34:49
that is certainly means we're not American which is
1:34:52
weird because we were American So
1:34:54
imagine growing up in the fucking house that
1:34:57
I had I would get grounded for failing
1:34:59
English and be yelled at in broken English
1:35:01
Like brother, you know, you fucking come do
1:35:03
this homework guys. You're my example. You want
1:35:06
to know why I'm failing you guys But
1:35:09
they would be like we're not in Mercaya when
1:35:11
you're 18. This will always be your home. That's
1:35:14
beautiful. I left when I was 21 But
1:35:19
In my culture, we never were like hey when
1:35:21
you're 18, you're a man get out of the
1:35:23
house That's scary
1:35:25
when you think of that My parents always
1:35:27
encouraged me to go be my man, but they always reassured
1:35:29
me that I'd always have a home And
1:35:32
even when I go to their house, I'm like, oh, I'm going to
1:35:34
my mom's house They're yelling at me. This is your house. Stop saying
1:35:36
it's your mom's house. I'm going 31 years old mom. I have a
1:35:39
At two places now. I don't even have one You
1:35:42
keep this house. Yeah, and they'll
1:35:44
be like no, this is your home and I
1:35:47
think we need it for the
1:35:49
Emmerichias the Americans I think they need
1:35:51
to stop telling their kids that they're men at
1:35:53
18 even though they are man Men,
1:35:57
it's we don't have it. We don't have any
1:35:59
kind of virtual attention transition anymore for that. In many
1:36:01
cultures in the world you have to do something
1:36:03
at that age that makes you a man. You
1:36:05
have to get up and leave the tribe. You
1:36:08
have to go out, go on the hunt. You
1:36:10
have to jump off that pole and survive. They
1:36:12
have all kinds of rituals that make this transition
1:36:14
to being a man and not just a boy.
1:36:17
Now I think keeping the boy alive in you
1:36:19
and the man is important. I think they're both
1:36:21
important parts of our show. Sound like heart. Yeah.
1:36:23
So but I think we're missing that piece. So
1:36:26
to say somebody's a man because they're 18 or
1:36:28
21 doesn't mean anything today because there's no challenge.
1:36:30
There's no push. There's no requirement for you to
1:36:33
be able to stand on your own two feet
1:36:35
completely. But I think it's beautiful. With my kids
1:36:37
I've told them all you are
1:36:39
loved from everywhere you go. You're loved, you'll be loved
1:36:41
forever. You'll always have me in your corner. My respect
1:36:43
you have to earn. My love
1:36:46
you have. I respect you have to
1:36:48
earn. It's different because I don't
1:36:50
respect you if you sit in your ass and
1:36:52
don't do anything. You don't contribute to society. You
1:36:54
don't find a way to give back. I mean
1:36:56
life is not here so we just get everything.
1:36:58
I think that's the mistake in a relationship by
1:37:00
the way. In the beginning of relationship every relationship
1:37:03
is easy because it's all chemistry. So everything's perfect
1:37:05
and easy. When the chemistry wears off because you
1:37:07
run into a problem with your child or in
1:37:09
your business or somebody gets ill or something then
1:37:12
what happens is the polarity the opposite energy's
1:37:14
often become the same. Both people get masculine
1:37:16
to deal with a problem or both get
1:37:18
feminine and there's no alternate
1:37:20
energy. You got North and South Pole opposite
1:37:22
energy is great life. You put
1:37:24
a plug in opposite energy creates that electricity.
1:37:27
So when we lose that in
1:37:29
a relationship it's also usually because we're looking
1:37:31
for someone there to give us something. A
1:37:33
relationship's a place you go to give not to
1:37:35
get. Serve. And if you really go to serve
1:37:37
in a relationship then you're never gonna feel it
1:37:40
because the love you express you feel. But if
1:37:42
you're waiting for someone to meet your needs every
1:37:44
moment it's a very different experience. So I just
1:37:46
think that life is calling to us to
1:37:49
bring something to life. We're responsible for life
1:37:51
for something. It's not life is responsible to
1:37:53
us. And unfortunately our
1:37:56
culture and COVID did this as well. somebody
1:38:00
young may not remember, but it was a brutal time
1:38:03
for people financially in business. The difference is the
1:38:05
government is sending you a check. So
1:38:07
you had to figure what the hell to do. This
1:38:09
time now no one wants to go to work. Why
1:38:12
should I have to drive to work? Why should I
1:38:14
have to work nine to five, right? Cause it's how
1:38:16
you develop skills and characters so you can be free
1:38:18
and add value and do other things. But because you're
1:38:20
here not just to get, but now when people think
1:38:22
they're just here to get, they're miserable. You see all
1:38:24
the studies right now, people are more unhappy than ever
1:38:26
been in their work and they don't
1:38:28
want to go to work. And by the way, some jobs are
1:38:30
better at home. I understand that you're right. Code or something might
1:38:33
be better, but the ones at
1:38:35
home are complaining that they don't like their work because
1:38:38
they feel lonely and separated. Cause life is
1:38:40
not about making it easy. Life is the
1:38:42
hero's journey. You need to be called. And
1:38:44
if you don't get called now, eventually you're
1:38:46
going to get called by something life or
1:38:48
God or the universal step in and kick
1:38:51
your ass to wake you up. Now,
1:38:53
some people takes a lot of kicking before they wake
1:38:55
up. Some people never wake up, but
1:38:57
the majority of people at some point are going to wake up.
1:38:59
The question was you stay awake. I don't mean woke. I mean
1:39:01
awake. Awake to the fact that
1:39:03
you're responsible to life for something more than just
1:39:05
your needs being met. And I think
1:39:08
when people do that, life is rich because
1:39:10
it's meaningful because it isn't just me, it's
1:39:12
we. You wrote
1:39:14
a line saying you can either make a living
1:39:16
or create a life. Yes, design and create a
1:39:18
life, exactly. Most people just make a living to
1:39:20
get caught up in that pattern. That's the river
1:39:23
I was talking about. You get caught up in
1:39:25
the river of life. You don't know where you're
1:39:27
going. And you get caught up in the current
1:39:29
problem, current challenges, current people around you. And
1:39:31
then you get to the fork in the river and you
1:39:34
don't decide, you just go with the flow. Well, where the
1:39:36
majority is going is not usually the best place to go.
1:39:38
Right? You're almost doing the opposite, but it'll
1:39:40
almost be better for the most part. And then all of a
1:39:42
sudden you wake up one day and you're in a
1:39:44
boat with no pals, five feet from Niagara Falls.
1:39:47
You go, oops, that's a little late. So you
1:39:49
gotta decide what is my life gonna be about?
1:39:51
I don't even know my perfect mission and purpose,
1:39:53
but what are all my life's essence to be
1:39:55
about? Don't make it so it has to be
1:39:57
worded perfectly, what am I here to do? I'm
1:40:00
here to grow, I'm here to give, I'm here to
1:40:02
laugh, I'm here to learn, I'm here to honor, what
1:40:05
am I here for? And I think when
1:40:07
people start to tap into that, which people do
1:40:09
when they get in peak states, that's why I
1:40:11
do seminars, by the way. Books
1:40:13
are fantastic for learning, educating, and so forth,
1:40:15
but there's nothing like an
1:40:18
event. Because when you go to an event for
1:40:20
12 hours, it's like if I said you're going to learn
1:40:22
a language and you're going to learn a little bit at
1:40:24
a time in college or high school and people don't speak
1:40:26
the language, I drop you in Italy for 90 days with
1:40:28
no teacher, I'll come back in 90 days, you're
1:40:31
speaking Italian because you're an immersion. So I do
1:40:33
immersion with people, but I also do it
1:40:35
when I put people in peak states, like we
1:40:37
talked about biochemical states, and in those states you
1:40:39
get answers. But when
1:40:41
you're like, I don't know,
1:40:43
what's my purpose? In
1:40:46
this state, you will never discover it. You're
1:40:49
going to discover it by not having the perfect answer,
1:40:52
it's like a business. People say don't
1:40:54
put the cart before the horse. I was interviewing a guy
1:40:56
a couple days ago for a group of entrepreneurs I work
1:40:58
with around the world, and
1:41:02
he created a company, he created
1:41:04
diapers.com. He
1:41:06
went online and saw there were 200,000 looked views
1:41:09
for diapers and no one was selling them. So
1:41:12
he figured how to do that, sold it for half a billion
1:41:14
dollars to Amazon, and then he built something
1:41:16
called jet.com, which he sold to Walmart in
1:41:19
one year, one year of business for $3.3
1:41:21
billion, right? He's just
1:41:23
a genius guy. But one
1:41:25
of his philosophies is put the cart before the
1:41:27
horse. In other words, get your ass
1:41:29
in the game. You got an idea?
1:41:31
Put it on the line. Don't sit and analyze it
1:41:33
and work it all out. Try it.
1:41:36
What doesn't work? Change, change, change, change, change, so you get where you
1:41:38
want to go. That's the game that
1:41:41
is life. Life is calling to you to get in
1:41:43
the game. If you get in a game, you're going
1:41:45
to have a time of your life. You're going to
1:41:47
love life. When people say, oh, I'm bored, this is
1:41:49
so boring. I remember the day I was bored. The
1:41:51
only way you could be bored is put yourself in
1:41:53
such a lousy state over and over again that your
1:41:55
brain is bored with everything. But if you're looking to
1:41:57
serve something more than yourself, then you got to learn.
1:42:00
grow and you'll feel a sense of
1:42:02
alignment that comes from that. That's, that's
1:42:04
again, grow and give. If
1:42:06
you do those two things, you're going to have a magnificent
1:42:08
life. If you don't, it doesn't matter. You could have a
1:42:10
billion dollars and million people loving you and
1:42:13
you won't love yourself. Circling
1:42:15
back to the reap and soak, because this is going to follow what
1:42:18
you're just saying. Sure. I want to make
1:42:20
sure that I am a, I'm a husband who
1:42:22
serves, right? So I got engaged and I didn't just
1:42:24
make a promise to her father. I made a promise
1:42:26
to God. And what I've
1:42:28
learned, monitored about myself and a lot of
1:42:31
great people is that they want to serve
1:42:33
their family and they try so hard that
1:42:35
they serve their family into the grave. By
1:42:38
example, you wrote about a book, uh,
1:42:40
in your book, you wrote that a man will come
1:42:42
home exhausted from work. And when he sees his loving
1:42:44
life out there, he trains his brain. And when
1:42:47
he was sad and angry and frustrated, he's, he's
1:42:49
correlating both his wife and his pain. That's right. He
1:42:51
has nothing to do with her. If you're in a
1:42:53
lousy state and then you see your wife or
1:42:55
husband or boyfriend or girlfriend or children, even in a
1:42:57
lousy state about your work or something else, and
1:42:59
you do that over and over again, they get linked
1:43:02
together and you look at it one day, have
1:43:04
a great day. You look at them and you feel
1:43:06
pissed off or you feel overwhelmed or you feel
1:43:08
stressed. So that's why it's so important to learn how
1:43:10
to manage your own psychological emotional state. Like if you
1:43:12
can learn to live in a beautiful state of
1:43:14
mind, that's the greatest gift you could give your wife.
1:43:17
Besides your love is that
1:43:19
no matter what happens, shit's
1:43:21
going to happen in your life. There's going to be
1:43:23
stuff that's really tough. There's going to be stuff that
1:43:25
seems impossible. I'm glad you got you
1:43:27
came to this positive conversation, but it's true. Right. But
1:43:29
how you deal with that is everything. I
1:43:32
used to think, well, man, when I get pissed off,
1:43:34
my brain gets so sharp and I come up with
1:43:36
an answer. That's true. But when I'm really happy, my
1:43:38
brain comes up with answers even faster and I'm a
1:43:40
lot easier to be around, you know, other people want
1:43:42
to be around you. So it's like, I've learned to
1:43:45
train myself. I'm not perfect. It's not
1:43:47
like I won't get pissed off or frustrated, overwhelmed
1:43:49
or stressed. It's just, I give myself 90 seconds
1:43:51
and I kick my ass out of it because
1:43:53
that will not serve anyone I love. Then
1:43:56
they take on worried about you or worried about
1:43:58
the situation. It's like, no, every. everything's
1:44:00
solvable. It might take more time
1:44:02
than we want, but we're gonna solve this. But in the
1:44:04
meantime, we're gonna live in a beautiful state because there's so
1:44:06
much grace that God has
1:44:08
given us. And we need to appreciate that. And
1:44:11
then we'll figure out these things. Problems are a sign of
1:44:13
life. I remember I met Norman Vincent Peale when he was
1:44:15
92 years old. He wrote the original,
1:44:17
he's a minister. He wrote Power of Positive Thinking.
1:44:19
And I was 32. He
1:44:22
invited me up to Canada. He was doing a seminar. My career was
1:44:24
starting to take off. So I got a chance to go meet him.
1:44:27
I went backstage with him. And I remember at Santa, I
1:44:30
said, you know, I said, he said, call me Norman. I said, Norman,
1:44:32
I said, I just curious.
1:44:35
I said, why are you still doing seminars at 92? And
1:44:37
he goes, well, there's still a few negative people
1:44:39
out there. And I said, okay, I got
1:44:41
60 more years of this going forward. But
1:44:44
then I asked him, I said, he
1:44:46
started out was horse and buggy. He's seen radio,
1:44:49
television, cars. I mean, imagine what he
1:44:51
saw in his lifetime in that century.
1:44:54
I said, what's the most important lesson that
1:44:56
people need to have? He
1:44:59
said, they need to understand the power of
1:45:01
problems. And I said, what do you mean?
1:45:04
He said, well, the only people out
1:45:06
problems are people in cemeteries. I said, I think
1:45:08
I heard that somewhere. He said, I said that
1:45:10
in 1940, whenever six or something. He
1:45:12
goes, but they don't give my full quote. My
1:45:14
full quote was, the only people out
1:45:16
problems are in cemeteries. So if you don't have any
1:45:19
problems, you should get on your knees and beg for
1:45:21
some and pray for some right now because problems are
1:45:23
a sign of life. And
1:45:25
he said, he was sitting at a table one day with Gene
1:45:27
Tunney, who was the heavyweight boxer of the
1:45:29
world in the 40s, I guess, or 50s. I'm
1:45:32
not old enough to remember what it was. And he
1:45:34
said, they were both speakers and they were on this dais
1:45:36
and having lunch right before the speech. And
1:45:38
here he's just buffed out
1:45:40
like crazies, unbelievable muscular
1:45:43
specimen. And so Norman said, I
1:45:45
turned him and said, how do you get muscles like that? And
1:45:48
he said, Gene turned him and said, do you really wanna know
1:45:50
or you just ask him? And
1:45:52
he thought to himself, I really was
1:45:54
just asking, now I really do wanna
1:45:56
know. So he goes, no, I really
1:45:58
wanna know. And he goes, every. Every day
1:46:00
I push against unbelievably intense resistance
1:46:03
and that's what sculpts and builds
1:46:05
these muscles." And
1:46:08
Norman sat there for a little bit and he said, I thought about
1:46:10
it, thought about it. He goes,
1:46:12
I think that's why God gives us problems because by
1:46:14
pushing through those we sculpt ourselves. I
1:46:16
never forgot that. So it's like your
1:46:19
goal, you're never going to get rid of problems. If you're
1:46:21
in business, you have problems. You might call them challenges, but
1:46:23
they're problems. But what makes you
1:46:25
a leader is you solve them quickly. And
1:46:28
the goal is just get better quality problems. I
1:46:31
remember when Apple was trying to be able to sell
1:46:33
something, they're going bankrupt. And then all of a sudden
1:46:35
they come up with the iPod and
1:46:38
music and pretty soon they didn't
1:46:40
have enough of them. It's a new quality problem.
1:46:42
People are suing them because they scratch too easily,
1:46:44
but they're making a billion dollars. It's a new
1:46:47
problem. It's a better quality problem for their business.
1:46:49
We all have those. We're all going to have problems,
1:46:52
but they're just opportunities for growth. They're
1:46:54
that call to adventure. It's the hero's journey.
1:46:58
And by the way, you and your wife will have
1:47:00
that experience. No, we're perfect. Not yet. No
1:47:03
problem. No, but wait, there's
1:47:05
a season to relationship. Can I just give it to you
1:47:07
for a second? Please. First
1:47:10
season? Somewhere in three to five years. Various
1:47:12
for people, most seven. Huge
1:47:15
chemistry and everything seems
1:47:17
to be perfect and easy and you have
1:47:19
the best relationship in the world and everybody
1:47:21
envies you because you still have
1:47:23
polarity and if things go well, you have
1:47:25
so much attraction. When you're attracted to somebody,
1:47:27
you make everything great. Men may say it's
1:47:29
great, but then there's some days
1:47:31
where you'll start to gradually, as time goes
1:47:34
by, run into challenges. May
1:47:36
not even be each other. And you deal
1:47:38
with those challenges and the frustration around each other and some
1:47:40
of that feeling gets in there and maybe
1:47:42
she starts to say, man, why does
1:47:44
he always say that? Or
1:47:46
you think, why can't she ever get ready?
1:47:48
Why are we always like little
1:47:51
shit that you feel a little resistance to? But
1:47:53
if you don't solve it, it'll start
1:47:56
to build over the time until the resistance starts
1:47:58
to be a little bit of... Rejection
1:48:01
right and then you might start saying something and
1:48:03
it doesn't feel fair and then some people just
1:48:05
go under pressure And they stay in relationship 20
1:48:07
years, and they have two different lives, and they
1:48:09
live together, but they're really not there Yeah, right
1:48:11
that first season usually is pretty easy And
1:48:14
then you start bumping into things that are different, and that's what
1:48:16
makes us grow But some people
1:48:18
think the purpose of relationship is pleasure,
1:48:20
and it's not pleasurable anymore shit So
1:48:22
they're out that's most people the second
1:48:25
season so that's springtime summer is a
1:48:27
more of a test Summer
1:48:29
is you run into some real problems your kid
1:48:31
gets ill or you have a kid or something's
1:48:34
gone wrong with the business or there's something going
1:48:36
on the economy or a coven and You
1:48:39
go you're both individuals and
1:48:42
so you're trying to still meet your own needs And
1:48:44
so the battles get stronger and a lot of people
1:48:47
leave there the other not even for me. They're not
1:48:49
here for me It's me me me still Where
1:48:52
the world transforms is when you go from
1:48:54
conditional love to unconditional love right
1:48:57
when you go into the third? season of life That's
1:49:00
usually somebody's usually at least in their
1:49:02
40s quite honestly and now You
1:49:05
are so in love. It's eternal love you know
1:49:07
it's love you've been through shit together you grew
1:49:09
together You expand together coming closer and closer together,
1:49:12
and now what problems will still show up Maybe
1:49:15
one of your parents gets Alzheimer's maybe there's some
1:49:17
new challenge with business But you solve it together,
1:49:19
and it's a we and you have there are
1:49:21
no conditions to your love It's like most people
1:49:24
have great relationships with their kids because they know they're not
1:49:26
gonna leave them You know but
1:49:28
that man and woman may leave me so if
1:49:30
you're a kid You don't have one yet, but
1:49:32
if your kid killed somebody you wouldn't support it,
1:49:34
but you still love them Yeah, but people say
1:49:36
in a relationship if you ever do this, and
1:49:39
I'm out of here That's conditional
1:49:41
of when you have third season you're
1:49:43
past all that shit You just love
1:49:45
that person soul and you will still have
1:49:47
problems But you solve them together and then the fourth
1:49:49
season is the final winter time of
1:49:51
your life And that's where as the
1:49:53
years go by the body starts to
1:49:55
break down and the soul starts to ascend
1:49:59
And one of you will pass And
1:50:01
if the love is that deep, if you
1:50:03
go through all the seasons, you
1:50:06
have the privilege of
1:50:08
whether you go first or there goes first of knowing it's
1:50:10
eternal love. And it's something beyond
1:50:12
imagination that brings tears to my eyes because I
1:50:14
have the privilege of having that with
1:50:16
my wife after 24 years. Most
1:50:19
incredible soul that I could ever dream of having. I
1:50:21
thank God every day because I go like, I
1:50:24
help millions of people and my gift was, he gave
1:50:26
me this woman in my life. And
1:50:28
I will probably go before her because I'm older than she is. She
1:50:31
may go before me. I don't relish the moments
1:50:34
of that time, but it just makes everything
1:50:36
more precious because you know time is limited.
1:50:39
I'll be 64 in a month. So I'm still a
1:50:41
young man, but I had a lot of friends
1:50:43
who died in their 60s and some in their 50s and some
1:50:45
in their 70s. So you
1:50:47
start to realize there's a point in your life and you're not
1:50:49
there where you will hit what they call middle age. And here's
1:50:51
how you know your middle age. You'll
1:50:53
realize there may be more days behind me than
1:50:56
ahead of me. I had my 60th birthday four
1:50:58
years ago. I had this big party where I raised a
1:51:00
bunch of money to save children. It was really wonderful. Keep
1:51:03
children in traffic. I raised 19 million dollars. Great
1:51:06
party. I didn't want to do a party, but we made
1:51:08
it with a purpose. We did it. And one of
1:51:10
my friends got up who's now 80 years old and
1:51:12
he goes, welcome to midlife. He goes, then again, I
1:51:14
don't know my 120 year olds. And
1:51:18
so when you look and you go the racetrack of
1:51:20
life only has so much time, it makes it more
1:51:22
valuable. I was going to ask this now
1:51:25
that you know that and it brings you tears in your
1:51:27
eyes, the moment that you're
1:51:29
with your wife means a lot more.
1:51:32
Every moment means it. Yeah. So
1:51:34
you don't have to wait till that stage if
1:51:36
you know what the racetrack looks like. And
1:51:39
by the way, it's the same for everyone. Most people don't
1:51:41
make it to the fourth level, as you well know, or
1:51:43
even the third level. But will your
1:51:46
sense of grace and gratitude and love
1:51:48
and your desire to serve your wife,
1:51:51
not just get from your wife. I
1:51:54
believe you've got that opportunity. But if
1:51:56
you know where it is, you get there quicker. You
1:51:58
don't have to go through some of the other things. You can get
1:52:00
to the we part you can get to the unconditional
1:52:02
love part so much more rapidly The
1:52:05
biggest problem in relationships today is everybody thinks you're supposed
1:52:07
to meet my needs Right
1:52:09
and no, that's not how it works What in
1:52:12
a relationship you can have one or two things you're gonna have like people
1:52:15
talk about toxic masculine There's toxic
1:52:17
masculine feminine. It's somebody who thinks
1:52:20
I'm getting what I want or I'm out of here So
1:52:23
some men are demanding some women
1:52:25
are will use their their You
1:52:27
know sensual ways to get whatever they want and if they
1:52:29
don't get it they're out of here some men Those is
1:52:32
what I'm doing. I'm out of here. It's an immature person
1:52:35
The second stage is equality Okay,
1:52:37
you do your part. I do my part That's
1:52:41
a transaction and it
1:52:43
sounds really good because it sounds Egalitarian
1:52:45
on the surface it is but then there's no
1:52:47
opposite energies and there's no passion So you have
1:52:50
two people that are good friends
1:52:52
and they live together, but they don't really have any passion
1:52:54
Those are the people that say it works. I stick around
1:52:57
There's no passion, but there's a third level and the
1:52:59
third level is your needs or my needs Instead
1:53:02
of I can't make you feel this way I'll do
1:53:04
whatever it takes to meet your needs because that's what
1:53:06
lights me up I'm
1:53:12
trying to do something for her. No. No, she's
1:53:14
trying to do it for me And we get
1:53:16
in this play fight and it's fun But it's
1:53:18
a quality quality problem to have right it's a
1:53:20
different thing But you can get there faster if
1:53:22
you know what the target is Yeah, you don't
1:53:24
have to take so long and some seasons some
1:53:26
winters along some are short, right? You
1:53:29
can speed up the seasons if you know where
1:53:31
you're going again It's pattern recognition pattern utilization and
1:53:33
maybe pattern creation And that's it's a powerful tool
1:53:35
when you know how to use other people's patterns
1:53:37
so you don't have to make that mistake That's
1:53:39
right So when I was in the industry and
1:53:41
I just started getting a lot of money and
1:53:43
a lot of recognition The first thing that everybody
1:53:45
I love me was hey, dude, what are you
1:53:47
doing in a relationship? It was new so
1:53:50
they're kind of like hey, dude, like, you know, even people
1:53:52
that are very close to me They're like dude if I
1:53:54
was you I'll be I'll be doing this I'll be doing
1:53:56
that and if you have enough love
1:53:59
people that you you love tell you something, you kind
1:54:01
of start like questioning it. And
1:54:03
so I realized that I was
1:54:05
like monogamy started getting harder. Cause I'm like, oh yeah, like
1:54:08
one girl, this is my prime. What if this doesn't work?
1:54:10
And then I just wasted all of that time. And then
1:54:12
you start thinking about your past relationship. You're like, well, I
1:54:14
thought she was the one, but then she cheated on me
1:54:16
and da da da da da da. And by the way,
1:54:18
watch what's happening. Are you in your mind or your heart
1:54:21
when this is going on? I'm in my mind. The
1:54:23
mind will always mess you up. Get in your head, you're dead.
1:54:25
Yup. In a relationship, once you get in your head,
1:54:27
it's over. You've got to come back to your heart. When
1:54:30
I say heart, like literally they've proven this physiologically,
1:54:32
you put your hands on your heart and you
1:54:34
breathe and imagine breathing into your heart for two
1:54:36
minutes. And you think of three things you're grateful
1:54:39
for. This is a process that was
1:54:41
developed. You change your entire
1:54:43
biochemistry. And then all of a sudden you'll
1:54:45
have a whole different answer, things you can't solve. You're all stressed
1:54:48
out about it. I'll say, okay, good, put your hands on your
1:54:50
heart, breathe, feel the breath going
1:54:52
in and out. And I'll say, think of
1:54:54
a moment you're really grateful for, but don't think of it over
1:54:56
there. Step into the moment like you're there. It could be a
1:54:58
little moment. Two or
1:55:00
three of those moments, their entire biochemistry, now I'll
1:55:02
say, okay, that problem that seems so unsolvable. Answer
1:55:06
this for me, stay in state, not in your head and your heart and
1:55:08
tell me. Answer to finish
1:55:10
the sentence while you're breathing in your heart. All
1:55:12
I need to remember, all I
1:55:14
need to focus on in that situation, all I really need to do
1:55:17
is what? All I need to remember, all
1:55:19
I need to do is what? And
1:55:22
people get the answer immediately. Because
1:55:25
you can see biochemically, you know how you
1:55:27
can measure your brain's electrical impulses and your
1:55:29
heart, EKG, EEG. When you
1:55:31
see somebody who's stressed out or pissed off
1:55:33
or angry, you can see these do not
1:55:35
match. They're really, they're up and down all
1:55:37
around. When you do this for two minutes,
1:55:39
they literally unify and make a perfect symbol
1:55:41
of the same because now your heart and
1:55:43
your brain work together. And when you were
1:55:45
born, I'm not when you're born, when you
1:55:48
were in your mother and we knew you
1:55:50
were alive, how we know you were alive,
1:55:52
heartbeat, right? Now
1:55:54
guess what? As long as that's beating, you got life. There
1:55:57
was no brain when that heart started beating. So.
1:56:00
Your heart has its own intelligence and it affects your
1:56:02
brain But if you only use your mind you're
1:56:04
screwed in a relationship You're screwed in just about
1:56:07
anything the mind is a tool that should be
1:56:09
used don't let it use you It's like technology
1:56:11
today people have technology use them they get addicted.
1:56:13
They don't know in control of it It's like
1:56:15
it's a whole different game use your brain your
1:56:17
brain will never give you fulfillment Your
1:56:19
mind won't yeah only heart will do that your
1:56:22
brain won't even allow you your mind won't even allow you
1:56:24
to enjoy an apple We go is it organic? So
1:56:27
if you're gonna enjoy your
1:56:29
life You got to learn how to bring this
1:56:32
back and not let this control you because our
1:56:34
society Keeps pushing us here
1:56:36
and ego brings us here Yeah, because it's
1:56:38
always comparing and the people that were giving
1:56:40
me that advice for egotistical maniacs and so
1:56:43
well, they're growing They're learning they're young we
1:56:45
all some of them weren't some of them were married So
1:56:51
I My again, I
1:56:53
like my whole thing is like I bring it to
1:56:55
God so I heard all this I read Proverbs that
1:56:57
day I read a good woman is
1:57:00
the best gift from God and
1:57:02
so I go okay So I sat back and
1:57:04
I looked at everyone who gave me advice and
1:57:06
I'm like they're this age and they're still chasing
1:57:08
tail And no offense you look like a
1:57:10
creep at the club and then I go okay Well, what
1:57:12
do I want and I go well, I want a family
1:57:14
and I want a girl that When
1:57:16
I looked at Bella I knew she was the one because when
1:57:18
I looked at her I pray to God I go this is
1:57:20
the first woman that if my kids turned out like her I'd
1:57:22
praise my God until I pass away So
1:57:25
when I held on to this I go, okay. Well, if there is
1:57:27
a devil I Guarantee you if
1:57:29
you saw a beautiful gift from God He's
1:57:31
gonna fill it with lies so I could get rid
1:57:33
of it because you can't touch what God
1:57:35
gave me And so I sat there and
1:57:37
I go God if this is the problem I go remove me
1:57:39
from the industry that or make me a man who
1:57:42
could stand strong here supporting my wife
1:57:44
and loving her like my church and Dude,
1:57:47
I'm gonna sound like a crazy man, but it
1:57:49
was just overnight. I started looking at women differently
1:57:51
overnight I started looking at women that
1:57:53
were doing only fans and I was like, okay
1:57:55
Like instead of me looking at them like well
1:57:57
if I was single, you know now it's
1:57:59
just kind of like well why is this woman in this
1:58:01
position and how can I get her out of it and
1:58:05
it all flipped for me and
1:58:07
I just feel so sad that there is
1:58:09
people like me that don't have wisdom to
1:58:11
fall on to get them out of
1:58:13
a situation because if I was a dummy when
1:58:16
I proposed to my girlfriend I was sobbing and when
1:58:19
I was sobbing people were probably like oh
1:58:22
my god he's happy about this what I
1:58:24
was sobbing about is God saved me from
1:58:27
a decision that if
1:58:29
I would have made for all
1:58:31
the money in the world the day before
1:58:33
I proposed to my girlfriend we
1:58:35
were on a bike and I kept
1:58:37
yelling at her I go hey you're getting reckless because you're
1:58:40
getting comfortable with that and hurt
1:58:42
you though still like an
1:58:44
airhead she's freaking trying to do jumps with
1:58:46
no helmet so I'm riding
1:58:48
a bike and we're on Belle on Belle
1:58:50
Street ironically and
1:58:54
in my head I swear you could ask her this is
1:58:57
legit I'm riding my bike and I see her fall
1:58:59
into the street and get hit by a car and
1:59:02
I turn around to tell her hey I just had a
1:59:04
thing and before I even mention it she's in the street
1:59:06
with the bike on her because
1:59:08
she crashed and she's in the street exactly like
1:59:10
how I saw it and
1:59:12
in that moment I know it sounds crazy
1:59:15
but in those type of moments everything freezes
1:59:17
like everything freezes and I knew in
1:59:19
that moment when I saw that girl there and I'm running
1:59:21
toward her I literally told God I
1:59:23
go you could remove my health remove
1:59:26
everything but don't let a hair
1:59:28
come off of her head and I'm running and in
1:59:30
my mind when I'm picking her up and she doesn't
1:59:32
even know I'm about to propose but imagine me carrying
1:59:34
a ring on me all the time and
1:59:36
if this could have happened and I never even got to
1:59:39
show her how much I loved it all I kept thinking
1:59:41
about was I
1:59:43
almost gave away something that
1:59:46
I would now give away everything
1:59:48
for that
1:59:50
wasn't my thoughts man that's the enemy's
1:59:52
thoughts yeah well
1:59:55
guess what there'll be a
1:59:57
stage in your life in the future when you'll have children
2:00:00
and then you'll have this experience at another level. And
2:00:02
then grandchildren. And so, you
2:00:04
know, I've got five kids and five grandkids, and my
2:00:07
oldest daughter is gonna be 49 in a month, and
2:00:10
my youngest is two and three
2:00:12
quarters. She's gonna be three in a
2:00:14
couple months. So I
2:00:17
got five grandkids. My daughter is, you know,
2:00:19
she's the, what do you call
2:00:22
it, the auntie to my grandchildren,
2:00:24
and they're older than she is. There's
2:00:26
nothing like love within a
2:00:28
family, whether it be your intimate love or
2:00:30
your children. And those are all the
2:00:32
beautiful things ahead of you. And a lot of
2:00:34
people miss out on that because they get caught
2:00:37
up in the society that keeps teaching them that
2:00:39
they're not enough, so they gotta try and prove
2:00:41
it by buying something or
2:00:43
doing something. Listen, buy and do whatever you
2:00:45
want in your life, but this is the
2:00:47
essence of where life is most fulfilled. And
2:00:49
without it, all that other shit doesn't
2:00:51
mean anything. I don't want kids,
2:00:54
the reason why is, like I'm gonna have kids,
2:00:56
obviously, because that's what you do with life. I
2:00:58
don't want kids for one reason only. I'm
2:01:01
terrified that I can't protect them at
2:01:03
the same time, all the time. Because when I
2:01:05
saw her in the street, I go, my God, you know what,
2:01:07
she's the most clumsy person, and I fell in love with that.
2:01:10
She's the most clumsy human, and I was like, oh, that's
2:01:12
so cute, until I fell in love with her. I'm like,
2:01:14
yo, this is dangerous. You're your biggest problem, dog. Like, you
2:01:16
need to figure it out. And like, I get mad
2:01:19
at her. I'm like, yo, you need to stop
2:01:21
bumping your head. And then she's cutting for food.
2:01:23
She cuts her finger. I'm like, yo, pay attention,
2:01:25
dog. And it's like, to me, it's like, yo,
2:01:27
she's a full-blown adult. I'm gonna
2:01:29
punch my kid in the face if he scares me like this.
2:01:31
Like, what am I gonna do? But I'll put a chain on
2:01:33
him, lock him up here. No, you can
2:01:35
develop more faith. You
2:01:42
know, it's true. My wife, Billy's
2:01:44
here. Is that not perfect description of my
2:01:46
wife? My wife is pretty. Where are I
2:01:48
from? She's always breaking things. She's always dropping
2:01:50
things. And it used to freak
2:01:53
me out. My daughter, you know, is a
2:01:55
little less than that, but she models her
2:01:57
mother to some extent. But there's
2:01:59
a- in which you have to put your trust in something
2:02:01
more than yourself because you're not God and you can't
2:02:04
be there every moment. But what you can do is
2:02:06
you can love them, you can be for them, you
2:02:08
can arm them, you can help them with skills and
2:02:10
abilities, and you can be there when they're most needed.
2:02:13
But there's no guarantee in life. And
2:02:15
who's to say when it's somebody's time to go? You and I
2:02:17
don't know that. So most
2:02:19
people aren't going to have kids right now because they're missing
2:02:21
what's called a compelling future. That's what you need. Anybody
2:02:24
can deal with a difficult today if they have a compelling tomorrow.
2:02:27
It doesn't matter. But right now, people have been told that
2:02:29
the whole earth is going to be gone in 12 years,
2:02:31
and the earth's going to be fine. You
2:02:34
might not be here if you don't get to act together, but the
2:02:36
earth's going to be fine. It's
2:02:38
all bullshit. But when you hear enough of that over and
2:02:40
over again, or you think, I've never been a parent, I've
2:02:42
never been responsible, but that will all evolve for you as
2:02:44
it does for not for everyone, but it will for you.
2:02:46
And the reason I say it will for you is I
2:02:49
can't say for sure. But the
2:02:51
path you're on is a path of humble
2:02:54
inquiry. And when you're
2:02:56
constantly curious and inquiring and you want to grow
2:02:58
and you want to expand, your
2:03:00
life is going to be extraordinary because it will just
2:03:02
keep unfolding more and more. And you
2:03:05
have your 31, is that right? You got
2:03:07
decades ahead of you that you have
2:03:09
no idea of both challenge and opportunity
2:03:11
and new mentors and new experiences and
2:03:13
family. I mean, I'm excited for you.
2:03:17
I'll have a little ticket to your parade because since you're
2:03:19
public, I get to watch and see some of the beautiful
2:03:21
things you're doing. And I enjoy
2:03:23
that because you're a good human being. I appreciate that.
2:03:26
You got something amazing happening actually very soon.
2:03:29
Yes. You have a summit, you have a book.
2:03:31
Yes. What are you more excited about? Oh
2:03:33
my gosh, excited about both. Let me mention the summit first
2:03:35
because it's so easy. So if people are watching, you
2:03:37
know, I normally do like four
2:03:39
days, 12 hours a day with, you know,
2:03:42
15, 20,000 people in a stadium type of
2:03:44
thing. And when COVID happened, they
2:03:46
shut down all the stadiums and I wanted to serve
2:03:48
people. So I finally said, I want to do something
2:03:50
for people all over the world because I usually do
2:03:52
things in 195 countries across the world. I
2:03:55
want to do something that costs no money for anybody. I mean, I
2:03:57
don't have to travel because they couldn't. limited
2:04:00
all the barriers in their home while they're here in the
2:04:02
middle of COVID, I wanted them to see they can still
2:04:04
take control of the quality of their life. And
2:04:06
so I said, I'm going to do a seminar and
2:04:08
we'll do some of it on Zoom and YouTube. We'll figure out
2:04:10
how to do the piece. I built this studio, 25,000 square feet
2:04:12
with 20 foot high LED screens, 0.67, highest resolution. In
2:04:17
your home, yeah? No, not in my home. I have
2:04:19
some things in my home too. This is a separate
2:04:21
studio I built. And I said, I'm going to build
2:04:23
the studio and I went to the guys who founded
2:04:25
Zoom and I said, I need more than
2:04:27
a thousand people. I need 25,000 people. And
2:04:30
I built some software so that when people, instead
2:04:32
of clapping, they just shake their phone, it sends
2:04:34
an electric signal. So if one person does it,
2:04:36
you don't hear anything, but when 20,000 people do
2:04:38
it, it's like thunder. And
2:04:40
that could bring people up larger than life and interact with
2:04:42
them. But I never thought it'd be as
2:04:44
great as it could be. Meaning I now do these
2:04:46
events where I used to do 10, 15, 20,000
2:04:49
people, now they're 40,000 people. And then I started
2:04:51
to do this free event. And last year we
2:04:53
had a million and a half people from 195
2:04:55
countries, every country in the world. So it's
2:04:58
called the Summit and it's called the
2:05:00
Time To Rise Summit. And if people want
2:05:02
to go, it's time to rise summit.com, time
2:05:04
to rise summit.com. There's no charge for it
2:05:06
whatsoever. Why though? Why is there no charge?
2:05:09
Because I just want to do something that
2:05:11
gives people some real tools right now that they don't even
2:05:13
know they can have. And a lot of people are like,
2:05:15
I don't know if I can do that. I don't want
2:05:17
to go there. Because the mind gets involved. But when you
2:05:20
get people a direct experience, you know what's true. And
2:05:22
they can do it from their home. And I'm
2:05:24
really proud because we've had people, we had a
2:05:27
guy two years ago, for example,
2:05:29
this is like how extreme it is. He never would
2:05:31
have gone to my seminars. You know why? He weighed
2:05:33
700 pounds, had not left his bed
2:05:35
for six years, couldn't get up to go to the
2:05:37
bathroom, on oxygen, told he'd never be off that the
2:05:39
rest of his life. And somebody
2:05:42
sent him the link and said, you got to see this
2:05:44
Tony Robbins guy. It's amazing. And you never will go to
2:05:46
an event. I told you about him. You
2:05:48
don't read his books, come have an experience. So he flipped
2:05:50
it up on his TV and his computer. And he watched
2:05:52
the thing and he was so moved. And I happened to
2:05:55
call on him. I didn't know what was going on. But
2:05:57
there's all these people, I call on people and do interactions.
2:06:00
and saw him in bed there. She
2:06:02
had always been naked for six years in that
2:06:04
bed. His brother died and then he hurt, injured
2:06:07
himself and he got put on medication and then
2:06:09
had all these complications, right? And
2:06:11
so I talked to him about like
2:06:13
it seems impossible, but this can be changed.
2:06:15
This little step at a time and here I'm gonna give you
2:06:17
a little assignment. Here's how we're gonna get you on the path,
2:06:19
figure out what you want. Cause when you figure out the path,
2:06:23
the first step, instead of New
2:06:25
Year's resolutions that nobody fulfills, if you wanna say,
2:06:27
I'm gonna make my year great, the first step
2:06:29
is, are you on the path? Meaning
2:06:31
you know when you feel like you're on the path
2:06:33
to accomplishing what you want, achieving what you want with
2:06:35
your body or your business or your relationship, you know.
2:06:38
And if you're not on the path, the first step is
2:06:40
getting crystal clear what you really want. Cause
2:06:43
desire, that's when something our creator
2:06:45
gives us, desire of the father,
2:06:47
desire is how every story starts.
2:06:50
If you watch a movie, the first thing you'll
2:06:52
mean is the main protagonist, you'll see, oh, they
2:06:54
wanna get rid of all the bad guys. Oh
2:06:56
no, they wanna, we come one with God. Oh
2:06:58
no, they want three perfect children. Your current gross
2:07:00
desire, most desired component is what's driving the story
2:07:02
of your life. So in the area
2:07:05
of your life you wanna improve, your body, your
2:07:07
emotional relationship, what is it you want most? That's
2:07:09
what we wanna know first. And then why do you want it?
2:07:12
Cause you can say, I want this, but if you don't
2:07:14
have enough reasons, you're not gonna
2:07:16
follow through when it gets difficult. So when you have
2:07:18
that, you're on the path. What's
2:07:21
the second step? The second step on that path is
2:07:23
you gotta find and face the truth. And
2:07:26
the truth is there's a gap between
2:07:28
where you are and where you wanna be. And
2:07:30
I used to say things like, well, I'm big
2:07:32
bone. That's why I was 38 pounds heavier. I'm
2:07:35
the same bones as I have been, right? I'm 35
2:07:37
pounds lighter. But people have these stories. So we gotta
2:07:39
figure out what stops you. And
2:07:41
so there's only five things that stop people. Fear,
2:07:44
fear of failure, fear of success, fear of not looking good, fear
2:07:46
of the unknown. That'll stop you. Or
2:07:49
maybe it's a limiting belief. You
2:07:51
develop the belief like, I've tried everything. No, you
2:07:53
haven't even tried everything, you'd be fit. But
2:07:56
once you believe that, you don't try anything anymore. Or
2:07:58
all the good ones are gone. relationship was right, you
2:08:00
know, and it's not true. But once you have a
2:08:03
belief like that, you don't even go for it anymore.
2:08:05
It's become self-fulfilling. Or the third problem might
2:08:08
be you have some other emotion that
2:08:10
gets in the way like, like, I
2:08:13
like to say stress or depression
2:08:15
or sadness or self-pity. That'll put
2:08:17
breaks on your progress and stop
2:08:20
you. Or fourthly,
2:08:22
you might be in a position where you have some
2:08:24
bad habits, right? You want to lose
2:08:26
20 pounds, but the first thing you do in the morning
2:08:28
is go to Starbucks and have a smoke a mocha, whatever
2:08:30
the hell that shit is. And you know, you're never going
2:08:33
to get there. Bad patterns. Versus I have it
2:08:35
at the first thing I do is get up and I jump in the water,
2:08:37
I workout, whatever it is. Once you make it happen, it's
2:08:39
easy. Or last one, you
2:08:41
might be missing the skill. Like
2:08:44
lots of people want to be financially free, but they
2:08:46
don't have the first clue and they don't think it's
2:08:48
possible today. It's total bullshit if anyone can do it,
2:08:50
if you follow the pattern of people to do it,
2:08:52
right? But if you don't have the skill,
2:08:54
you don't have the skill
2:08:57
to manage through a relationship challenge. You
2:08:59
have to manage your body when it's overweight. It's a skill. So
2:09:02
one of those five, you face the truth.
2:09:05
And now you go to the third step. And what
2:09:07
do you do? You come up with a massive action
2:09:09
plan, a map. That's what it stands
2:09:11
for, massive action plan. It isn't perfect. You
2:09:13
don't wait to have everything there. You
2:09:16
get enough to know what to do and you act.
2:09:18
You put the cart before the horse. You do something.
2:09:20
You get in the game. And then
2:09:22
while you do that, while you're doing that,
2:09:24
you go to the next step, which is you do
2:09:27
what's hard. You slay your dragons. You
2:09:29
push through the fear. That doesn't mean you're not fearful. It
2:09:31
means you have courage. You are scared, but you do it
2:09:34
anyway, and then you figure out how to do it, right?
2:09:36
Or you change that BS belief system that you have and
2:09:38
you have that's stopping you. You do the
2:09:40
work that's necessary. And then the last three are the
2:09:42
easy steps. Now you just have a daily practice. So
2:09:45
it's easy. You get the right rhythms. You don't have to
2:09:47
think about it. You measure
2:09:49
more often. Because like if
2:09:51
you have a business, if you don't measure, you're
2:09:53
not managing it. If you weigh yourself once a
2:09:55
year, you might discover you're 20 pounds overweight. But
2:09:57
you weigh yourself once a month. If
2:10:00
you measure your business once a week, you're not gonna
2:10:02
have bad months, you're not gonna have bad years. The
2:10:04
more you measure, the more you're in control. And the
2:10:06
last thing you do is you gotta celebrate the victory.
2:10:08
And then guess what happens? Life will give you the
2:10:10
next call from the next challenge. But there's more of
2:10:12
you now, and you're more confident
2:10:14
now, because you conquered something of
2:10:16
that nature. So what I do in these events
2:10:18
is I do three days. It's coming
2:10:20
up January 25th through the 27th. 2
2:10:23
p.m. Eastern, the people join us from all over the world and
2:10:25
every time zone. And I'm gonna take people
2:10:27
for about two and a half to three hours and
2:10:29
give them these skills that will change their energy, change
2:10:32
their momentum, shift and figure out
2:10:34
what emotions are getting in the way, put together a
2:10:36
plan for their finance, figure out what to do with
2:10:38
their relationships. There's only a few areas that really matter.
2:10:40
We're gonna hit on those for three days in a
2:10:42
row. Think of it like going to a movie, only
2:10:44
in the movies your own life. And it's the zelling
2:10:46
the comeback challenge. And as a result of it, now
2:10:48
you're also part of a community of over a million
2:10:50
people around the world all supporting each other. So I
2:10:52
started saying, oh, this guy I told you about, I
2:10:55
gotta be clear with his desires. We figured out what's
2:10:57
stopping him. We put a little map together, right?
2:11:00
And the first thing he did is he took like this, you know
2:11:02
how you hang your clothes on a, if you
2:11:04
have like a portable thing with a little really
2:11:06
light piece of metal. He just sat there
2:11:08
and did these initial pushup things, right? And
2:11:10
he graduated more and more and we set
2:11:12
up a target for him. So three months
2:11:14
later, he was off the oxygen, which they
2:11:16
said he'd never be. He got to
2:11:18
the restroom for the first time. Six
2:11:20
months later, he was in a car. He's now
2:11:23
lost two years later, 310 pounds. I
2:11:26
said, you get in the car and drive. And all of
2:11:28
a sudden do a ticket, you come to my seminar, we'll
2:11:30
walk on fire together, we'll celebrate. He came and walked on
2:11:32
fire. It's just one example. Or a woman has lost her
2:11:35
child and it's the most horrific thing you
2:11:37
can imagine, but you've got to pick it up and go
2:11:39
on to other children. Seeing
2:11:41
her turn around or seeing a guy that's struggling in
2:11:43
his business and he troubled the size of his business.
2:11:45
So it's juicy. You know, some people do that and
2:11:47
they get excited and they want to learn more from
2:11:49
me and come to seminar. So it's a great thing.
2:11:51
They can become clients, but there's no like push for
2:11:53
them to have to do anything. It's just me saying,
2:11:55
let me introduce you to what's possible. And they do
2:11:57
it once a year. It's the best carbon in the
2:12:00
world. because I got seminars in history, and I
2:12:02
got people all over the world, and personally every country, they're
2:12:04
making some kind of progress that I've gotten to contribute to.
2:12:06
So I love it. So if people want to go, they
2:12:08
can go to, we call
2:12:10
it the time to rise, because it's like time to
2:12:13
take back control, time to rise up to who you
2:12:15
really are, right? And take charge of your life. So
2:12:17
it's the time to rise dot com, excuse me, time
2:12:19
to rise summit dot com. I'm gonna put that in
2:12:21
the description, so you guys could just click that button.
2:12:25
You're walking people hand in hand
2:12:27
to follow good patterns. So
2:12:29
they can lead to a better potential. That's right.
2:12:32
I highly recommend to do this, guys. Push away. Listen,
2:12:34
if you have something on your plate right now, and
2:12:36
you truly with all of your heart feel like, yo,
2:12:38
I felt like today, this is my year, I really
2:12:40
need to do it this year, 2024. Just
2:12:44
start with this. Literally start with this, it's super
2:12:46
easy. You could do it on your laptop, you could do it on
2:12:48
your phone, you could put your earbuds. You can do it with some
2:12:50
friends, you can do it at your house, you can do it at
2:12:52
the office. You can bring some friends together and do it together if
2:12:54
you want. That's kind of fun too. It's free financially, no burden. Zero.
2:12:57
And it's something that could bring you to a place
2:12:59
where if it was a financial thing, you wouldn't see
2:13:01
it as a burden anymore. Yeah, true.
2:13:03
What else is free is chapter one in
2:13:05
your new book. Yes. Explain
2:13:08
to me why. Well, this is
2:13:10
my third financial book. I never was really,
2:13:12
I wrote personal development books in all these
2:13:14
areas and obviously focused on finance as well.
2:13:17
But in 2008, when I saw everything
2:13:19
from my barber to my billionaire friends,
2:13:22
like everybody was affected by it. The
2:13:24
world was upside down. And because
2:13:26
I worked at that time, I still do, I
2:13:28
was coaching a man named Paul Tudor Jones, one
2:13:30
of the top 10 financial traders in history. Brilliant,
2:13:33
brilliant man, incredibly good hearted man. I've
2:13:36
learned from him because I was coaching him. So I was learning along the
2:13:38
way. And I knew it was happening in 2008,
2:13:41
I knew it before it happened. And so I
2:13:43
was like, man, I wanna find a way to help
2:13:45
people. I thought by 2010,
2:13:48
the culprits would be in jail, but we took the
2:13:50
people that almost destroyed the world economy and here's their
2:13:52
punishment. We gave them more money. It was just crazy.
2:13:54
So maybe angry. So I thought, I'm just one guy,
2:13:57
what can I do? And I thought, I
2:13:59
have one. I have access because of what I
2:14:01
do. I'm going to interview
2:14:03
50 of the smartest financial people in the
2:14:06
world, the greatest investors in history, all self-made
2:14:08
billionaires, nobody from the Lucky Sperm Club,
2:14:12
nobody was given to. And I'm going to
2:14:14
find out, they're all different, I'm going to find out
2:14:16
how they went from scratch to that and
2:14:18
write this book. Well, it ended up being a 674-page
2:14:20
monster, but it was the number one New York Times
2:14:22
best seller, still the top seller in this industry for
2:14:25
the last, for this century, it's
2:14:27
only 24-year-old. Congratulations. Thank
2:14:29
you. But then, and then I wrote a second
2:14:31
book because I knew obviously there was going to be a bear market,
2:14:33
there was going to be a shift. I didn't know
2:14:35
it was going to be based on COVID, but you can predict it's
2:14:38
going to happen. I want people prepared. And then I
2:14:40
thought it was done, but I learned
2:14:42
a lot of things in that first book working with the
2:14:44
smartest people in the world. I'll give
2:14:46
your audience four of them just real fast. All
2:14:48
these people, like, they
2:14:51
all said, Tony, I wonder if the game was still winnable
2:14:53
because people, a lot of the young people especially think
2:14:56
it's not winnable. The game is rigged
2:14:58
and so forth. Well, some things are
2:15:00
rigged, but it's not completely rigged and you absolutely can
2:15:02
win the game. And I got convinced
2:15:04
of that by not what they told me, but by witnessing and learning
2:15:06
from them all. But
2:15:08
they're all different. Some are like macro investors figuring
2:15:11
out where the world's going. Some are buying for
2:15:13
value and so forth. But they had four things
2:15:15
in common that were really important. First,
2:15:17
everybody, you can't become financially free until
2:15:20
you stop being a consumer and become
2:15:22
an owner. It's really simple. Break
2:15:24
that down for me. You got an
2:15:26
Apple phone there? Yes, sir. Do you
2:15:28
own Apple stock? Nope. Why? That
2:15:31
Apple phone is depreciating. It's going to be worthless in a year
2:15:33
or two and you're going to want another one that goes away.
2:15:36
If you own the stock, it's only gone up. So
2:15:39
why wouldn't you want to own that thing where
2:15:41
your phone is making you money as an owner
2:15:43
too? Even your phone isn't everybody else's. You
2:15:46
have to think like an owner. We're a
2:15:48
society that's always consuming and that doesn't add
2:15:50
value. But if you can bring some of
2:15:52
your, a little bit of your money, you take 10% of
2:15:54
what you were and you say, I can't save it. And
2:15:56
you put an account where it's automated. You never see it.
2:16:00
You'll adjust. I give an
2:16:02
example in my book of this guy Theodore Johnson.
2:16:04
He worked for UPS in the 50s. He
2:16:07
never made more than $14,000 a year in annual income. He retired with
2:16:09
$70 million. I'm
2:16:13
sorry, what? $14,000
2:16:16
a year in income, retired with $70 million. How in
2:16:18
the hell is that possible? Easy. He robbed the bank.
2:16:20
No, he didn't do any of those things. All he
2:16:22
did is he had a friend that came by and
2:16:24
said, I'm going to make you a wealthy man. He
2:16:26
goes, I'll never be a wealthy man. He goes, no, we're
2:16:29
going to take care of your future self and future
2:16:31
family forever. And here's how we're going to do it.
2:16:33
We're going to take 20%. He goes, what do you
2:16:35
want? We're going to take 20% off top. You're never
2:16:37
going to see it. We're going to put it in
2:16:39
a separate account. That'll be for investment. He goes, I
2:16:41
can't live on $14,000. He goes, you will
2:16:43
adjust. I promise you. He goes, I can't do it.
2:16:46
He goes, if the government raised your taxes 20%, would
2:16:48
you pay it? He goes, I'd scream and
2:16:50
yell, but yeah, I'd pay it. He goes, well, this is
2:16:52
a tax for you for the future, not
2:16:54
for the government. And they did it and
2:16:57
they put it in stock. Most of it was UPS and
2:17:00
the value of it went to 70. He had
2:17:02
$35 million away while he was still alive. And
2:17:04
then after he died, they gave away the other
2:17:06
35 million, never made more than 14 grand. It
2:17:09
was a really good guy, nice guy, but he became
2:17:11
an owner. So people don't understand if you
2:17:13
have a kid and they're 19 years old,
2:17:16
everybody hears about compounded growth, but they don't get
2:17:18
it. Come on. I grow up. There's the most
2:17:20
powerful thing. Well, you think, Oh, I'm going to
2:17:22
get rich by making a fortune. You
2:17:24
know how many actors, you know, many movie
2:17:27
stars, you know, many singers, you know, many,
2:17:29
you know, athletes who made millions of dollars
2:17:31
a year that are totally broke right now.
2:17:33
I know them by their name. We
2:17:36
call them right now because what happened was they
2:17:38
thought that's how you get wealthy. We get wealthy
2:17:40
is you don't need a lot of money. You
2:17:42
need a little bit of money that consistently goes
2:17:44
to work for you while you're sleeping. And
2:17:47
the first discipline is getting in the game. Then,
2:17:50
okay, how do I know if I'm going to
2:17:52
build a money machine? I'm right now I'm a
2:17:54
machine. People, I Tell people, you're a financial trader.
2:17:56
You may not call it that, but you're trading
2:17:58
your time for money. That's a terrible. Trade
2:18:00
because the one thing and get more of his
2:18:02
time. but you gotta do that would be getting.
2:18:04
See. Take a little the what you.you start
2:18:07
to put miss blue money machine were you
2:18:09
build it up and invested in after while
2:18:11
the money you map be income. From.
2:18:13
That money. Is. More than you get
2:18:15
for work. So. Now you'll have
2:18:17
to work. By the way to go is not
2:18:19
not to work As if you don't work you'll
2:18:22
be miserable. You gotta be something but the ghosts
2:18:24
and I have to work. When you walk different,
2:18:26
you talk do I was afraid eyebrow but I
2:18:28
want a work in a different feeling and you
2:18:30
move differently. If everything is different see want to
2:18:32
go That money Mrs How do you do that?
2:18:34
You take a percentage automated where's that money going
2:18:36
to go and one of the principal soggy be
2:18:38
former facile answer to. The. Number
2:18:40
one difference between the wealthiest people the
2:18:42
world and average person's average person will
2:18:45
make more money, harrowing for more money
2:18:47
and their newborn focuses on our to
2:18:49
lose it. And I my sounds
2:18:51
ridiculous. Go on. How much. But. What
2:18:53
they mean is. They know if
2:18:55
I invest in something because I'm excited about this
2:18:58
every pocket about it and it drops fifty percent.
2:19:00
It's completely up in the stock for some years
2:19:02
and real stayed with me. If
2:19:04
that happens, Honest? percent?
2:19:07
A hundred percent. So.
2:19:10
It's nice to say you know where
2:19:12
buffets has a rule says rule number
2:19:14
one.lose money Rule number two. Serial number
2:19:16
once a hilarious but everybody is gonna
2:19:18
lose money at times the way they
2:19:20
keep from losing money as the second
2:19:23
principle which sounds big but it's really
2:19:25
simple because asset allocation It simply means
2:19:27
that if you wanna of one dollars
2:19:29
or thousand dollars a million dollars one
2:19:31
hundred million dollars to invest. The.
2:19:33
Most important decision is Matt was going to
2:19:35
put out an apple or piece of real
2:19:37
estate. The most important decision is how are
2:19:39
you going to consistently invest your money? There's
2:19:41
two buckets you put your money on. Some
2:19:44
of that money's going to go to places
2:19:46
low risk, Because. it's low
2:19:48
risk it doesn't have a higher returns so
2:19:50
it takes longer to get we want to
2:19:52
go but it's like a turtle them have
2:19:54
people get their the other bucket is the
2:19:56
risk bucket that stuff like spock spot things
2:19:59
the cat bonds my go for For example,
2:20:01
insurance, some secure investments
2:20:03
where you're guaranteed a return, it's
2:20:06
a low return. They go in that first
2:20:08
bucket. The second bucket is like the church
2:20:10
one. That's your people at your home. The
2:20:13
risk one is, okay, this might be stocks. This
2:20:17
might be real estate. This might be anything that
2:20:19
can go up but it also can go down.
2:20:21
So there's risk there. What
2:20:24
percentage of that money, whether it's $1,000 or 10
2:20:26
million, is
2:20:28
gonna go in the secure bucket versus
2:20:30
the risk bucket. That's what
2:20:32
you have to decide and it's affected by a
2:20:35
couple things. When do you need
2:20:37
the money? If you're 20 or 30 years old, you
2:20:39
have tons of time to make up but if you make mistakes,
2:20:41
so you can take more risk. If
2:20:44
you're 60, even though you want
2:20:46
one more money, you're gonna have to have more in your
2:20:48
security bucket because if you lose it this time, there's no
2:20:50
time to make up for it. Another
2:20:52
thing that affects it is how do you deal
2:20:54
with risk? Some people take risks,
2:20:56
no problem. Most people think they will but
2:20:59
they really aren't. But if you get stressed out, that affects
2:21:01
it. Another one is how much cashflow do you have? If
2:21:04
every dollar you make you're spending, you
2:21:07
don't have a lot of cashflow, you're gonna have to look at
2:21:09
the balance differently because you're taking as many risks. If you've gotten
2:21:11
more money than you need a little bit, you
2:21:13
might be able to take more risks. So you decide, is it 50-50? Is
2:21:16
it 70-30? Is it 80-20? Depending on
2:21:18
those. Really important. That's how they
2:21:20
keep from losing because they don't put everything at risk
2:21:22
in a major way. If you don't mind
2:21:25
me asking, the first bucket where you said it's not that much of
2:21:27
a risk, what is it
2:21:29
that, what could you invest that doesn't have risk?
2:21:32
Everything has risk. It just has a lot
2:21:34
less. Less risk. Okay, like bonds. Bonds. Where
2:21:36
it's backed by the government. Okay, okay, okay, sorry. Because in my mind,
2:21:38
I'm like, my man, do you know something that I don't know? Because
2:21:41
all my money's going in that. I am the turtle. I
2:21:43
am slow but steady. But
2:21:46
if only slow and steady, you don't take any risk, it'll
2:21:48
take you a long time. So it's this balance, right? Of
2:21:50
course. So at 31, your numbers are gonna be different than
2:21:53
somebody at 61, let's say. So
2:21:56
you don't lose money by having the right asset allocation.
2:21:58
And the third one is much more interesting. Most
2:22:01
people think that people that are billionaires,
2:22:03
they took these giant risks and they
2:22:06
won. And rarely
2:22:08
is that true. Those billionaires don't stay billionaires
2:22:10
usually. The best
2:22:12
in the world, I'll practice another big word, it's
2:22:14
called asymmetrical risk reward. Simple
2:22:17
concept, big words. It just simply
2:22:19
means they try to take the least amount of risk humanly
2:22:22
possible with the most upside. So
2:22:25
I'll give you an example. I coached Paul Tudor
2:22:27
Jones for all these years, and when he was at his best, he was
2:22:29
having challenges, and I learned when he was doing his best, I got him
2:22:31
to do it again. He wouldn't make
2:22:33
an investment. He'd risk
2:22:35
a dollar if he thought the investment would
2:22:37
be worth five. And he
2:22:39
was certain. I might be wrong. If he's wrong,
2:22:41
he can risk another dollar, still make four. He could be wrong
2:22:44
four times out of five and still be okay. And catch
2:22:46
up, yeah. But if you're trying
2:22:48
to make 10% or 20%, and you're wrong, you're
2:22:51
going deeper and deeper in the hole. So you can't
2:22:53
always find asymmetrical risk reward, but when you can, it's
2:22:55
amazing. I'll give you a perfect example. I
2:22:58
interviewed this guy, Kyle Bass. We're here in Texas right now. He lives
2:23:00
here. Kyle, in
2:23:02
2008, the worst economic time in
2:23:04
80 years, he turned
2:23:07
$30 million into $2 billion in less than two
2:23:09
years. How'd
2:23:13
he do it? He did asymmetrical
2:23:15
risk reward. He figured out that
2:23:17
real estate that everybody thought was going
2:23:19
to keep going up, he figured, no, no, we're hitting
2:23:22
the edge, and he found a way to invest
2:23:24
where his risk level was so low, because everybody thought
2:23:26
this is going to go on forever, that
2:23:28
he could be wrong 13 times and
2:23:31
still make money. Well, he wasn't wrong 13 times
2:23:33
since he made $2 billion. And I
2:23:35
said, how would you explain this to someone
2:23:37
who's not financially? They've not spent
2:23:40
time in the financial world. He goes, I can't believe you're saying this.
2:23:42
I've been thinking about how to teach this to my kids. So
2:23:45
he said, I came up with an idea, and I've not executed it. You
2:23:47
couldn't be asking me this at a better time. I said, well, what'd
2:23:49
you do? He said, I took my kids, and I said, here's what
2:23:52
we're going to do. We want to have
2:23:54
the least risk with the most upside. So he said,
2:23:56
I spent almost a year asking one question. Where's
2:23:58
their investment? You'll like this. is there an
2:24:00
investment in the world where there's no downside and
2:24:03
I'm guaranteed a significant upside from the very first day?
2:24:05
Now most people would say, you're stupid, you're an idiot
2:24:07
to ask that question, there's no such thing. Any
2:24:10
sophisticated person would say that. But he's very sophisticated and
2:24:12
he said, I ask questions no one else asks, that's why
2:24:15
I get answers no one else gets. And
2:24:17
after almost a year he figured it out, he goes, nickels.
2:24:21
I said, nickels? He said, yes,
2:24:24
I'm going to buy millions of dollars worth
2:24:26
of nickels and show my kids what I
2:24:28
mean. I said, explain. He
2:24:30
goes, Tony, a nickel's worth a nickel.
2:24:32
When I invest it, it'll never be worth less than
2:24:34
a nickel. I said, okay.
2:24:36
He goes, it costs 11 cents for the government to
2:24:39
make a nickel. That's how screwed up our government is.
2:24:42
He said pennies used to be made of copper. There's
2:24:44
almost no copper anymore. Because
2:24:46
it costs more for the copper than the penny. So
2:24:49
they've been doing this for years, they're going to have to adjust the nickels. If
2:24:52
you buy pennies that were still copper, regardless
2:24:54
of the copper content, they're worth 100% more than
2:24:56
they were before or 300% more than they were
2:24:58
before. He
2:25:01
goes, the melt value of
2:25:03
nickel, if I just melted them, he
2:25:07
said I make a 30% return on that
2:25:09
moment. I said, but you can't melt money. It's illegal. He
2:25:11
goes, yeah, I know that's what they say. He said, but
2:25:13
I don't need- How do you make that 2 billion, my
2:25:15
man? He goes, let me explain something to you.
2:25:17
I don't have to melt it. He
2:25:19
said, because the minute they make that
2:25:21
change, he said the value of
2:25:24
my nickels that are old nickels will go through
2:25:26
the roof. It won't be 30%. So
2:25:28
he said, on day one, they're already worth 30% more. I
2:25:31
made a 30% return and I can never lose money
2:25:33
because they're always worth a nickel. He literally went to
2:25:36
the Federal Reserve and tried to buy as many nickels
2:25:38
as he could. I can't remember how many millions of
2:25:40
nickels he bought. He took his kids with a truck
2:25:42
full of nickels and then he loaded up his big
2:25:45
storage facility with all these nickels. And he goes, if
2:25:47
I could push one button and take all my money
2:25:49
into nickels, I'd do it tomorrow. Where else are you
2:25:51
going to get a 30% return and have no
2:25:53
downside ever? I'll stay symmetrical and I'll
2:25:55
give you one more quick example. He's
2:26:00
like, he's in the vehicles. Who
2:26:05
the fuck even finds that out, bro? How
2:26:07
did he find out that? Because he asked the right
2:26:09
questions. Okay, fair enough. He did questions, do answers, right?
2:26:12
I always tell people better questions, give the better answers,
2:26:14
right? But I'll give you one more example. Richard Branson,
2:26:16
I know Richard, and he's an
2:26:18
amazing guy and he's a go-getter guy. And most
2:26:20
people look at Richard and go, this guy's a
2:26:22
giant risk taker. He is with his life, not
2:26:24
with his investments. He'll get on a
2:26:26
plane to train a helicopter, a balloon. He'll go
2:26:28
to space and take risks of his life. But
2:26:31
whenever he does the investment, he's like, whoa, what's
2:26:33
the downside? How do we
2:26:35
protect against the downside? So I'll give you a perfect
2:26:37
example of how brilliant he is, why he's so successful.
2:26:40
Asymmetrical risk reward. He decides he's
2:26:42
gonna compete with British Airways. He's
2:26:44
gonna start an airway from scratch and compete
2:26:46
with British Airways, this giant government-driven
2:26:49
company. He's gotta
2:26:51
buy all these Boeing jets, hundreds
2:26:53
of millions of dollars of jets. What
2:26:56
if he fails? He'll lose
2:26:58
everything he's ever earned. So guess what
2:27:00
he did? He negotiated with Boeing for over a
2:27:02
year till he got them to
2:27:04
agree that he'd buy all these planes, but
2:27:07
after a year, if he wasn't profitable, he
2:27:09
could give all the planes back with no
2:27:11
cost to him, no loss to him
2:27:13
and no loss to his credit. So guess
2:27:16
how unstressed he is going to build
2:27:18
that business? No downside, only upside,
2:27:20
and he built Virgin Air that way. So
2:27:23
it's a really amazing way of looking at things. It's
2:27:25
not always easy. So the question you're gonna be asking
2:27:27
yourself is like, okay, is there
2:27:29
a magic asset allocation formula that the most successful
2:27:31
people use? And the answer is yes. That's
2:27:34
what I taught in this book, like the Holy
2:27:36
Grail of investing. And the second question you might
2:27:39
ask is, okay, is there a way I
2:27:41
can get more asymmetrical risk reward? The answer
2:27:43
is yes. The fourth thing they all
2:27:45
talk about, by the way, is diversification. And can
2:27:47
I get diversified because it's the only free lunch?
2:27:50
Meaning you want to diversify different, you
2:27:52
don't want everything in Apple or everything
2:27:54
in stocks or everything in bonds or
2:27:56
everything in one piece of real estate.
2:27:58
You need diversification because all assets. At
2:28:00
some point, Ray Dalio, the smartest
2:28:03
and the most successful hedge fund manager in
2:28:05
history, he manages $195 billion. He
2:28:08
told me once when I first met him, he said, Tony, whatever
2:28:11
you love as an investment, say
2:28:13
you grew up and your family flipped houses, you were really
2:28:16
poor, you fixed them a little and got
2:28:18
the rats out and cleaned up. You
2:28:20
want to do real estate the rest of your life. Or
2:28:22
someone gave you a stock when you were a kid, a stock
2:28:25
of IBM and it grew, and so you got hooked on
2:28:27
doing stocks. Whatever it is that you like, someday
2:28:30
that asset that's always done well for you is
2:28:32
going to lose 50 to 70 percent like that.
2:28:35
Every asset class has done it. He said,
2:28:37
so that's why you have to diversify. You can't get caught up
2:28:39
in only what you know. So those
2:28:42
four were pretty amazing. While
2:28:45
I was writing that second book, and I was going through
2:28:47
all this with these guys, which is why I wrote this
2:28:49
final book, is I talked to
2:28:51
Ray Dalio. This guy, he
2:28:53
manages China's money. I mean, this
2:28:55
is not biggie. This is unbelievable. In
2:28:58
2008, I forget what the drop was, he was 34 percent or
2:29:00
36 percent drop in the market. He was
2:29:02
up 8 percent. I mean, he was just like so
2:29:04
smart, it's unbelievable, right? He called the whole
2:29:06
thing in advance. So Ray's become
2:29:08
a friend. And in the early days, when we first met 12,
2:29:11
13 years ago, I said, okay, after I prepared
2:29:13
for an interview with him for like 12 hours for what was supposed
2:29:15
to be a half hour interview, it was like, what have we done
2:29:17
here? I don't know how many hours have we been here, but it
2:29:19
was like three hours, right? Oh, two and a half. I've
2:29:22
been wanting to be for like 30. I'm like, I'm
2:29:24
not getting up. I'll pee in my pants right here.
2:29:27
I'll finish the volume. But
2:29:30
the interesting thing was, we pitched and
2:29:32
catch because I really understood, right? So we enjoyed that. Like
2:29:34
you and I talk and there's this connection, right? So
2:29:37
after that time, my last question was like, okay, everything
2:29:39
you taught me and shared with me, if
2:29:42
there's one principle that would
2:29:44
be the most important principle investing that you've
2:29:46
learned in 40 years of investing, it's made
2:29:48
you successful, what is the single
2:29:50
most important principle? And he said, Tony, I
2:29:53
have struggled for 12 years to answer the
2:29:55
question for myself. I
2:29:57
have the answer. I call it the holy grail of
2:29:59
investing. title of the book because it's from
2:30:01
him. Oh, nice. Yeah. And I
2:30:03
said, I'm leaning forward. Okay, what is it? And so I explained,
2:30:05
he said, Tony in order
2:30:08
for, so many people are behind. Like a lot of
2:30:10
your listeners or viewers are probably not where
2:30:12
they want to be financially or they don't have a plan even,
2:30:14
or they're on the plan, but it's not going as fast as
2:30:16
they want. Right? Yeah.
2:30:19
The only way to get your goals faster besides putting more money in
2:30:21
investments is get better returns. Well,
2:30:24
to get better returns, you got to take more what? Risks.
2:30:26
And if you have a risk, you can then lose
2:30:28
what you got and could be backwards. You lose it
2:30:30
all. And that's usually what happens to people. He said,
2:30:32
so the secret to all of this, like why do
2:30:34
you have asset allocation? Why do you
2:30:36
try to asymmetrical reward? You're trying to have the
2:30:39
least risk possible with the most upside. I
2:30:41
discovered a mathematical formula that I use and it
2:30:44
works like clockwork. He told me right there. He
2:30:47
said, if you can find eight to 12
2:30:50
uncorrelated investments, or what does
2:30:52
uncorrelated mean? Not connected. Right?
2:30:55
So investments, like if you buy technology stocks, they all
2:30:57
tend to move up and move down pretty much the
2:30:59
same. Some of you do all the better, but they
2:31:01
do it pretty much in unison. They're correlated. If
2:31:04
you think about when the market's going well and the
2:31:06
economy's going well, people want to invest in stocks because
2:31:08
they tend to grow. When it's not going well, they
2:31:10
tend to want to have bonds because they're more safe
2:31:13
and they're going to protect them during that time because
2:31:15
they're not usually correlated. Well, they
2:31:17
aren't usually, but in 2020, they both went down. In
2:31:20
2008, they both went down. Right? And
2:31:23
if you go to your broker, they go, I don't know. I
2:31:25
mean, they're never correlated. Yes, they are. They're always correlated this way.
2:31:27
That's a deeper discussion that Ray explained to me how. But he
2:31:29
goes, here's the secret. If
2:31:32
you can find eight to 12 things you really believe in,
2:31:34
you think are good, and they're not
2:31:36
correlated or are weakly correlated, you
2:31:39
can reduce your risk 80%
2:31:41
and potentially increase your upside, but
2:31:43
have the same upside. He goes, now
2:31:46
you can go faster. And
2:31:48
I was like, wow. And
2:31:50
I said, really? He goes, really? She showed me
2:31:53
the math. Why? Because that
2:31:55
other goes down. No, it's the fact that they're
2:31:57
not correlated. If you only have one investment
2:31:59
and it has a a certain amount of return in
2:32:01
risk, you're at high risk. But as you get
2:32:03
more and more investments at that level and they're
2:32:05
not tied together, if one goes down, another one
2:32:08
tends to go up. It gives you that balance.
2:32:10
I'm oversimplifying it. But why is it 80%? I
2:32:12
explained the book. You had to look at the math. Not everybody
2:32:14
wants to go to the math. All they need to know is to get the book.
2:32:16
No, I'm not going for that reason. No, no, no, no. By
2:32:18
the way, the book, 100% of the book, like
2:32:20
all four of my last books, all number one best
2:32:23
owners, I give them 100% of the money to Feeding America. This
2:32:27
one's true too. I don't make any money off
2:32:29
the book. Well, you're helping yourself. You're helping people
2:32:31
that are starving. Anyway, long story short, you
2:32:34
don't know everything about how you carve it, you know how to drive
2:32:36
it. But
2:32:38
here's the problem. I'm like, wow, this is brilliant. So
2:32:41
I'm not trying to find uncorrelated
2:32:43
investments, eight to 12, and it's not easy.
2:32:45
The world is so tied together today. And
2:32:48
so I was getting a little frustrated and I
2:32:50
started saying, okay, I know why I'm frustrated because
2:32:52
I'm only looking at public stocks. I'm
2:32:54
looking at bonds. I'm looking at public
2:32:56
real estate like REITs. But
2:32:59
the guys that make the most money on earth
2:33:02
and do it faster are the people who do
2:33:04
private equity, private credit,
2:33:06
and private real estate. But
2:33:08
that's not most people's investments. So
2:33:11
I went on the journey to start digging underneath there and
2:33:13
I found a couple of things that blew my mind. Here's
2:33:15
the first one. For the last 35 years,
2:33:19
private equity has done better than every stock
2:33:21
market in the world for 35 years. I'll
2:33:24
give you one example. People
2:33:26
in America usually have heard of the S&P 500. It's
2:33:29
an index of the top 500 companies. It's
2:33:31
a very safe thing to put your money in because... Yeah,
2:33:34
because you got some of the best companies picked. However, and
2:33:36
it's been a great investment over the last 35 years, overall,
2:33:40
it's averaged a 9.2%
2:33:42
compounded return, which means not every year, but
2:33:44
that's the average. And that means
2:33:46
if you're getting a 5% return, it takes 14.5
2:33:48
years to get your money to double. If
2:33:51
you're getting a 9% return, it only takes
2:33:53
eight years. So your lifetime,
2:33:55
you're going to grow much more rapidly. But
2:33:57
during that same time, if you were... basic
2:34:00
private equity. In this book I interviewed 13 of
2:34:04
the biggest players in the world who have the
2:34:06
greatest returns. In other words, these guys have all
2:34:08
averaged 20% or more per year for decades. One
2:34:10
guy in this group has done 36%
2:34:14
compounded per year for 26 years. These
2:34:16
are gigantic, these
2:34:19
are the masters of the universe. If you go
2:34:21
to the Fortune 400, you say, what industry has
2:34:23
the most billionaires? People tell me it's tech, it's
2:34:25
not tech, real estate, it's not real estate, it's
2:34:28
financial services but it's not hedge funds. It's
2:34:30
private equity. Here's why. Private
2:34:33
equity is average private equity, not these
2:34:35
guys, is average 14.2%. What
2:34:38
does that mean? So there are a lot of numbers here. I'll make it
2:34:40
simple for it. It means you're getting 50% greater
2:34:43
returns every year compounded. So
2:34:47
what that means is if you put a million dollars in the
2:34:49
S&P 500, say 35 years ago and
2:34:52
forgot about it, it's worth 26 million dollars today
2:34:54
without you doing anything. But if
2:34:56
you took the same million dollars and put it in private
2:34:58
equity, it's worth 139
2:35:01
million dollars. It's the
2:35:03
same time, it's the same money but
2:35:05
such a rad... And so when I
2:35:07
told you about asset allocation, the
2:35:10
current numbers show that ultra high
2:35:12
net worth people have 46% of
2:35:14
their money in private equity, private
2:35:16
assets, private credit. They only have 29%
2:35:19
in the public markets. And there's a reason. There used to be
2:35:21
8,000 stocks, different companies,
2:35:24
now there's 37% in the
2:35:26
same number of people going after them. And
2:35:29
in the Russell, you know, Russell, you got
2:35:31
50% of that index that doesn't make money.
2:35:33
They're betting on the future for it's gonna
2:35:36
go. These guys are not trying to
2:35:38
buy a stock at the right time. Think
2:35:40
about this. The majority of
2:35:42
businesses in the world and
2:35:45
in this country that are a hundred million
2:35:47
or more are private, right?
2:35:49
You're talking about, you know,
2:35:51
the middle market, just companies that are a hundred million
2:35:53
to three billion is 200,000 companies, not 3,700. So they
2:35:55
go find these companies. And
2:36:00
their genius is at adding value. They take a company and
2:36:02
go, we're going to grow this, a bad part of it.
2:36:04
We're going to grow this business. We're going to put in
2:36:06
a new CEO or we're going to put in a new
2:36:08
marketing system. We're going to put in new technology or AI
2:36:11
or we're going to change the accounting system. And
2:36:13
they're experts at growing these businesses. They grow them
2:36:15
in the way you make money in the business.
2:36:17
You sell it for a multiple of its earnings
2:36:19
or its revenues and they sell it to a
2:36:21
bigger company or they take it public. Their
2:36:23
track record is insane. The
2:36:25
returns, that's why the smart
2:36:27
money has a good portion of the money here, not
2:36:30
all because you still need liquidity. The advantage these private
2:36:32
equity people have is if you give them sooner money,
2:36:35
they tie it up for five years and
2:36:37
you're willing to do it because you're getting so much better return.
2:36:40
Yeah. So you don't put all your money there
2:36:42
obviously. But that
2:36:44
also allows them with the market goes down, they
2:36:47
buy stuff, they don't have to sell. They're
2:36:49
not tied to the ups and downs. And
2:36:51
if it's going really well, they can sell.
2:36:53
And they have time to develop these companies
2:36:55
and make it happen. So their track record
2:36:57
is mind boggling. So the only
2:36:59
problem is to get into these
2:37:02
best firms is like
2:37:04
trying to buy a Ferrari
2:37:06
SP3 that's $4 million before
2:37:10
they even bring it out, they're all pre-sold. It's hard
2:37:13
to get your hands on. You can't get, you go to
2:37:15
a club and there's the velvet rope and you can't have
2:37:17
all the money in the world. But if you don't know
2:37:19
the right people and you're not attractive enough, you're not getting
2:37:21
in that club. That's just how it works. So how do
2:37:23
the people that are getting your book get into the relationship
2:37:25
that you have? I can show you, it's pretty exciting. So
2:37:29
even I had difficulty and I have got a
2:37:31
certain reputation and certain brands. So I would get
2:37:33
into some of these, but I get these little
2:37:35
pieces because everybody wants it. Right? It's gone. It's
2:37:37
pre-sold. So one day
2:37:39
I'm sitting down with one of Paul Tudor Jones's former
2:37:42
partners, a good friend of mine. He's very wealthy, brilliant
2:37:44
guy. And I was lamenting
2:37:46
on, man, you know, private equity is so
2:37:48
great, but so hard to give him
2:37:50
the best ones. And I got in, but little
2:37:53
chunks, not the volume I'd want to be in for
2:37:55
and get the kind of returns. And
2:37:57
he says, Tony, you've done so much of my life. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
2:38:00
you into something. He said I'll tell you where I put most
2:38:02
of my money. This guy's brilliant. So
2:38:04
I'm leaning in again. Yeah, I just leaned in. I don't know if
2:38:06
you saw that, but I leaned in because I was like, shit,
2:38:09
dog. I got some money I want to invest in. So
2:38:12
I said, what is it? He goes, Tony, there's
2:38:14
this firm in Houston, Texas. That's why I'm here
2:38:16
for this meeting. And he said,
2:38:18
Houston, Texas, because usually when somebody's talking
2:38:20
finance, they go Singapore, London, Connecticut, New
2:38:22
York, right, Texas. He goes, yeah, these
2:38:24
guys are off the beaten path, but
2:38:26
they've done something amazing. I said, what is
2:38:28
it? You know, you're trying to get
2:38:30
into invest in one of those funds. The
2:38:33
company that owns those funds have multiple funds. They've done
2:38:35
years in the past. They keep building these funds. You
2:38:38
just try to get in one. And when you
2:38:40
invest in a fund like that, they call
2:38:42
you a limited partner. That's the name they use for
2:38:44
investors. If you're an owner of
2:38:46
the firm, you're the general partner. He
2:38:49
goes, what if I told you that
2:38:51
you don't have to get in the funds, that I've
2:38:53
got a way you could get in and own a
2:38:56
piece of the firms and
2:38:58
get everything they make off of it and
2:39:00
get all the funds? I
2:39:03
said, what? He goes, yes, you can
2:39:05
buy a slice of them if you know the right people in
2:39:07
the right way. I said, you got to
2:39:09
clue me in. He goes, here's the best part. What
2:39:12
do you want in a business? If you have a business,
2:39:14
you want income. You want income you can count on. You
2:39:16
know, these guys make money. Why they're
2:39:18
the master's universe, the most billionaires of any
2:39:21
categories, these guys, they
2:39:23
tie your money in for five years. They charge you 2%
2:39:26
of your money every year, no matter what, whether
2:39:28
they make you money or not. But people won't want
2:39:30
to do it because they make them
2:39:32
use it a lot more than that, right? So
2:39:34
they're guaranteed. If they have a billion dollar fund,
2:39:36
they're guaranteed a hundred million dollars in predictable income
2:39:38
for the next five years. Plus
2:39:40
they get 20% of what they
2:39:43
do on the upside. So if they
2:39:45
grow their fund from a billion to 2 billion,
2:39:47
they're going to get 20% of
2:39:49
that second billion. They make another $200 million,
2:39:51
a hundred million in fees, $200
2:39:53
million for the growth. And that's not uncommon. They
2:39:55
make $300 million on a billion dollars. Now
2:39:59
these firms value the are 20
2:40:01
billion, 30 billion, 100 billion dollar
2:40:03
firms and they're producing returns that
2:40:05
are just ridiculous and have done it decade after
2:40:08
decade. I own those firms now,
2:40:10
I own a piece of them. I
2:40:12
get the two and 20 myself, besides
2:40:15
being in those firms. So I get diversification
2:40:17
from all the best firms out there. They're
2:40:19
in different industries, like one guy's specialty is
2:40:21
SaaS for business, right? You know, software as
2:40:24
a service, he knows that business better than
2:40:26
anybody's name's Robert Smith, it's a company called
2:40:28
Vista. 100
2:40:30
billion dollar fund, man started
2:40:33
with absolutely nothing, one of the most successful human beings
2:40:35
in business in the world, one of the smartest human
2:40:37
beings. He knows how to take anybody in that business
2:40:39
and he's got a system, he grows it, expands it,
2:40:42
builds it up, sells it for a huge return, goes
2:40:44
to the next one. Some do it
2:40:46
with the government, around technology. Some
2:40:48
do it in, let's say, water. Some
2:40:51
do it in real estate. Some do it with private
2:40:53
credit. So I
2:40:55
have 65 firms now of the biggest
2:40:57
in the world that I own a piece of each of them and
2:41:00
I get two and 20 in all those. So I have
2:41:02
a cashflow of about 10%, it can go
2:41:04
seven to 10% and I
2:41:06
got giant upside as the assets grow as well.
2:41:08
It's one of my favorite investments on earth. I'll
2:41:11
tell you another one they've got. Do you need to have a
2:41:13
lot of liquid to do something? Well, I left out, I'm so
2:41:15
glad you asked that. So the
2:41:18
biggest problem why I didn't write the book initially, even after
2:41:21
I figured this out, is like I can
2:41:23
help my wealthy friends, but what about the average person?
2:41:26
The government has this weird thing where
2:41:28
they literally regulate so that only wealthy
2:41:30
people have the very best opportunities. And
2:41:33
the way they do that is they have classifications
2:41:35
of your level of sophistication and they base it
2:41:38
on something arbitrary, how much
2:41:40
income or net worth you have. You
2:41:42
could inherit money, it doesn't
2:41:44
mean you're a sophisticated investor. You could
2:41:47
be good at business and sell a business doesn't
2:41:49
mean you're a sophisticated investor, but they call you
2:41:51
an accredited investor and you can only use investments,
2:41:53
some of them, if you're an accredited investor, which
2:41:56
means you have a million dollar net worth not
2:41:58
counting your house. and or
2:42:00
you make $200,000 a year, okay? Then
2:42:03
you're qualified, guess what
2:42:05
they did? And there's a level above that called qualified
2:42:07
purchaser. You have to have $5 million and
2:42:10
that you can count your business but not your home.
2:42:14
But and they are at different levels. So there's
2:42:16
these arbitrary things where the best opportunities the average person can
2:42:18
do. So here's where I wrote the book. Congress
2:42:21
just passed the law, the House just passed the law
2:42:23
where they agreed, this is stupid. Everybody
2:42:26
should have access as long as they know what they're getting
2:42:28
into. So they're creating it, the House
2:42:30
passed it, Senate is taking it up, it was bipartisan. So
2:42:32
it's already been passed on one. It looks like it only
2:42:34
passed on the other. You'll be able to take
2:42:37
a test and after you take the
2:42:39
test, you're an accredited investor. You don't need a million dollar net worth.
2:42:41
You don't make $200,000 a year. Now you've
2:42:43
got access to these things. Pretty
2:42:45
wild. It's always should have been. That's actually crazy that
2:42:47
the timing of this, the timing of the guy who's
2:42:50
trying to teach his son, the
2:42:52
time, ah, my man. I was always
2:42:54
prepped, I was teeing you up for
2:42:56
it. I was teeing you up for
2:42:58
it. I know. This is incredible. In
2:43:01
fact, that book is mine now. I'm picking it up. Yeah,
2:43:03
you won't be able to put it down because
2:43:06
it's easy to read. The first half of the book, I
2:43:08
give you all these different industries. So let me give you
2:43:10
another one. Like a lot of
2:43:12
people, they want to have bonds for security. So
2:43:14
think about it. Bonds have been worthless
2:43:17
in terms of a return for decades, right?
2:43:19
Yeah. 2021, just a
2:43:21
few years ago, you're getting one
2:43:23
in 2% on the bonds, right? But
2:43:25
one set of bonds took off for a while
2:43:27
and it was junk bonds. They call them high
2:43:29
yield bonds, they're junk bonds. It means the companies
2:43:32
are really risky and they were paying only
2:43:34
3.9%, but compared
2:43:36
to one or 2%, that sounded like
2:43:38
a lot. And the bond market for
2:43:40
junk bonds exploded and then
2:43:42
it crashed, of course. While
2:43:45
they were doing that, we got
2:43:47
private credit. Now, what
2:43:49
is private credit? Well, since 2008, the
2:43:51
banks changed their running rules. Companies
2:43:54
that are 100 million to 3 billion, those
2:43:57
middle market companies, they can't get money,
2:43:59
the loans. they want. If you're, you know, you're
2:44:01
Apple, you can get the loan. You know, you need it at Apple,
2:44:03
right? But you're those companies, which is
2:44:05
most of the market. 200,000 companies here.
2:44:08
They need money to survive. So these
2:44:10
private equity guys who are really smart
2:44:12
said, we'll be your bank. We'll
2:44:14
own your money, but they vet them really well. They
2:44:17
have a 1% failure rate across on
2:44:19
average. Any bank would die for that. And
2:44:21
they stay with these people and keep loaning
2:44:24
to them. Never watch this. When people are
2:44:26
being in 3.9 and taking huge risks, I
2:44:28
was getting 9% on private credit with
2:44:31
less risk, just because I knew what
2:44:33
it is. And now I own those firms and
2:44:36
we own those firms, our teams. So we
2:44:38
get the 2 and 20 on those. And by the way,
2:44:40
if you had a mortgage and
2:44:42
it was a fixed rate mortgage at 3% and
2:44:44
the interest rates jumped to seven, you're pretty happy
2:44:47
camper. You did that. You know,
2:44:49
my dad, follow me on that. I was like, dad, everybody's just doing
2:44:51
it right now. And he goes shut up. Like he's like, shut up.
2:44:53
And literally, I swear to God, when everything skyrocketed, I,
2:44:55
Tony, I wouldn't be able to afford my house. Well,
2:44:57
if you tripled them out, you're paying right now. I
2:45:00
would have not. I would have literally lost my house
2:45:02
if I did not, if I was not listening
2:45:04
to my father. Well, I'm so glad I have a lot
2:45:06
of properties and I went and refinanced them all also and
2:45:08
kept them at 3% as well. I knew it was coming.
2:45:10
I didn't know it was this high, but I knew it
2:45:13
was going to go up. It was ridiculous. So I did
2:45:15
it too. So it makes life so much easier. But watch
2:45:17
this though. If you're a fixed rate, you're
2:45:19
fine. If you had a floating rate, you're
2:45:22
paying two and a half times the same house. Many
2:45:25
people can't do that. Well, in business
2:45:27
loans, they're floating rates. So
2:45:29
money was being loaned in those days,
2:45:31
maybe five or 6%. But
2:45:34
guess what? When the rates went up, it's the same
2:45:36
loan. And by the way,
2:45:38
we're already making double or triple than what
2:45:40
people are making on bonds. But now when
2:45:42
the infinites, when interest rates went up, we're
2:45:45
now getting 12 and 13%. On the exact same loans, we
2:45:48
have no more risk and the
2:45:50
profitability is through the roof and I'm getting the two and 20.
2:45:53
And just in the best firms in the world. And I interviewed
2:45:55
the best firms here to give you an idea. So you truly
2:45:57
just found the master of it. And instead of like, it
2:46:00
for yourself for like a couple years, transferring
2:46:02
all your money, building it up.
2:46:04
You were like, oh, I got to tell everybody about
2:46:06
this. I was telling all of my friends who had
2:46:08
money, but it's like most people trying to get there
2:46:11
faster and the tools they have are very limited, right?
2:46:13
Stocks, bonds, REITs, maybe your own house,
2:46:16
right? But those are not the kinds
2:46:18
of returns that are available here with less risk in
2:46:20
most cases, not all, but most cases and you want
2:46:22
to get with the best. So, and when you're the
2:46:24
house, think about this, you could be the poker player
2:46:26
or you could be the house. These
2:46:29
guys are the house, right? So you
2:46:31
want to be the person trying to get a loan, you
2:46:33
want to be a person giving a little money, you know?
2:46:35
So it's very different. I'll give you one more that's just
2:46:37
fun. So when I was a kid, my
2:46:40
fourth father was a semi-pro baseball player. And
2:46:43
so I got to start playing baseball a little
2:46:45
bit later because this is my fourth father. We
2:46:47
didn't have any money I could pay for going to a little league
2:46:49
and things like that, but he insisted and I got to do it
2:46:52
and loved it. But I
2:46:54
got started late and I wasn't that skilled. My time I
2:46:56
got to high school, I realized I'm not going to be
2:46:58
a professional baseball player. So I got to figure out what
2:47:00
I'm going to do. I'm going to be a sportscaster, sports
2:47:02
writer. I started writing for a paper, doing different things. But
2:47:05
the interesting thing was I would go to LA
2:47:07
Dodger Stadium, maybe once or twice in a year,
2:47:10
and I would buy the cheapest ticket and right
2:47:12
field at the top in the bleed seats and
2:47:14
bleed Dodger blue. I mean, I just love baseball,
2:47:16
love sports. And so I promised
2:47:20
myself someday I'm going to do well enough. I'm going to
2:47:22
own a sports team. It seemed totally absurd. And
2:47:24
then about six, seven years ago,
2:47:27
I finally had accumulated enough assets that I
2:47:29
could actually do that. Now, a
2:47:31
lot of money and they put a
2:47:33
microscope to you. You can't believe what you go through
2:47:35
to qualify to become an owner, not a single owner,
2:47:38
just an owner or a part of it. And
2:47:41
so I helped build the LA FC football club. I got
2:47:43
to partner with my friend Peter Guebert, a bunch of other
2:47:45
brilliant people. I played a small role, but it
2:47:47
was so fun. And then I moved to
2:47:49
Florida and I'm never there for the games, but we won
2:47:51
a championship. It was a blast, right? So
2:47:53
I was like, I want to build some more sports teams. So
2:47:55
I bought an esports team. It's done really well in some championships.
2:47:58
And then I was like, God, it would be nice to have a all these other
2:48:00
sports, be so much fun. And then
2:48:03
the rules changed about three years ago. And
2:48:05
the NFL has not done it, but Major
2:48:07
League Baseball, the NBA, Major League
2:48:09
Soccer, and Major League Hockey have all
2:48:11
changed the rules, where a small number
2:48:13
of firms who don't use leverage, so
2:48:15
it's not spooky, are able to
2:48:17
buy pieces of these businesses. Now, why would
2:48:19
you want to own a part of a
2:48:21
sports team other than the fun of it?
2:48:23
Well, it's not correlated to the stock market
2:48:25
or to the bond market. It's completely different.
2:48:28
You own a monopoly in your city. No
2:48:30
one can compete with you. You have the
2:48:32
only exclusive right in that city. You have
2:48:34
customers called fanatics. That's what fan means, fanatics,
2:48:36
multi-generational. And they used to make money by
2:48:38
putting butts in seats and when inflation happens,
2:48:40
they charge more for the hot dog and
2:48:42
people pay it. But now, they're
2:48:45
media enterprises and they're real estate enterprises. They
2:48:47
buy all the real estate around it. The
2:48:49
media rights, because of cutting cords. Of
2:48:51
100 top shows last year, 92 were
2:48:54
sporting events. Why?
2:48:57
Because cord cutting, those are the only people that are
2:48:59
gonna watch a commercial. The Super Bowl is the most
2:49:01
exaggerated example, right? So advertisers
2:49:03
want to go there. So I'll give you an
2:49:05
example. Peter
2:49:07
Guevara, dear friend of mine, partnered with some of these
2:49:09
businesses. We own a piece of the L.A.F.C. together. I
2:49:12
own a piece of the Warriors, called State Warriors
2:49:14
with them, the L.A. Dodgers with them. He bought
2:49:16
the Dodgers several years ago with a group of
2:49:18
friends, Magic Johnson, some really brilliant people. He
2:49:22
paid $2 billion for the Dodgers. No one had
2:49:24
paid a billion for a baseball team. Everybody
2:49:27
in the media went crazy. They were insane, they're gonna
2:49:29
lose money. The most anybody paid was $800 million for
2:49:31
a baseball team. And they all thought, you know, the
2:49:33
Dodgers, they're a great franchise, they're worth a billion, but
2:49:35
they're not worth two billion. Yeah, I sort of heard
2:49:38
a lot more. So I go to Peter, who's got
2:49:40
52 Academy Awards. He's
2:49:42
been the chairman of Sony Columbia TriStar, teaches
2:49:44
the UCLA, a regent for the UC system.
2:49:48
One of the smartest human beings I know. And I said,
2:49:50
Peter, I know you're no idiot. Everybody's saying
2:49:52
you're an idiot to pay two billion. How
2:49:55
are you gonna do it? What do you know they don't know? He
2:49:57
says, Tony, I like cliffhangers. I
2:49:59
will make it real. announcement on Tuesday. Why don't you hear it,
2:50:01
come over, and we'll laugh and celebrate together. Tuesday
2:50:04
announced he sold the local TV
2:50:07
rights for $7 billion and made
2:50:09
$5 billion on the spot. That
2:50:12
doesn't count all the other revenues that come from
2:50:14
the sport. Like
2:50:17
that. I'll give you another example. By
2:50:19
the way, when you own NBA, Major
2:50:22
League Baseball, you get an equal cut of all
2:50:24
the national advertising. If you're the smallest, cheapest baseball
2:50:26
team or NBA team, or the best, it doesn't
2:50:28
matter. But the local rights you keep. So he
2:50:31
sold the local rights, he knew what he was
2:50:33
gonna do. Two billion is no problem.
2:50:36
I'm gonna make $5 billion now. So while everybody
2:50:38
was laughing at him, he goes, we'll see who's laughing. Exactly right,
2:50:40
did it. So I'll give you an example. Michael Jordan, he
2:50:43
bought the Charlotte Hornets, got
2:50:45
the name back to the Hornets. He bought him for $275 million
2:50:49
about 11 and a half years ago, almost 12 years ago. He
2:50:51
just sold, we were on the groups that bought, a whole
2:50:53
group to improve his lot, for $3 billion in
2:50:56
11 years. The
2:50:59
average NBA team has gone up over 1,000% over
2:51:02
the last 20 years, to give you an idea.
2:51:04
And these are big numbers, to give you perspective.
2:51:07
If you just look at Major League Baseball, Major
2:51:09
League Soccer, the NBA, and hockey, and
2:51:11
you take a look at that and you go, what have
2:51:13
they produced if you put them in amalgam? The answer is
2:51:15
18% compounded for the last
2:51:17
10 years. The stock market's then
2:51:19
11% and it's not, and they're not correlated. So it's
2:51:21
one of your eight to 12 that
2:51:24
gives you 80% less risk, integrated return, and
2:51:26
fun. You get to be an owner, you get
2:51:28
to do these things. So now we're
2:51:30
involved with, I own pieces of, we
2:51:33
own pieces of now of everybody from
2:51:35
let's say, the Warriors to the Utah
2:51:37
Jazz, from the Dodgers to the Red
2:51:39
Sox, pieces of both of them. The
2:51:42
Pittsburgh Penguins, I mean, I go on and on and on, and
2:51:45
it's a blast, it's fun, it's a great,
2:51:47
it's part of our culture, it's fun to
2:51:49
do, and you get these
2:51:51
unbelievable returns, and people can do
2:51:53
it with a little tiny piece now. They're a part
2:51:55
of a group that does that. So there's so many
2:51:57
ways that people don't know about, that's why.
2:52:00
wrote this book, The Holy Grail of Investing, because
2:52:02
it'll open up a whole new universe to people
2:52:04
what's possible. And the second half of the
2:52:06
book is interviews with the 13 biggest guys
2:52:08
in the world where I interview how they
2:52:10
think about it, how they make investments, what
2:52:12
they do. And you learn things about, like,
2:52:14
even of a small business, like how they
2:52:16
grow businesses is fascinating. So that's
2:52:18
what the book's all about. And again, 100% of it's
2:52:20
being donated, you know, to Feeding America. What
2:52:26
the hell am I supposed to say to
2:52:28
that dude? And you said it earlier, you
2:52:30
can go to the holy grail of investing,
2:52:32
theholygralveinvesting.com. And if you
2:52:34
want, you can listen to the first chapter
2:52:37
on audio for free, or to the
2:52:39
book, you know. Both links in
2:52:42
the bio. You got it. In
2:52:44
the description. I just have one last question for you. Sure.
2:52:46
Will you call me when you have the next great idea before you write
2:52:48
a book about it? I just want to be a part of it, Tony.
2:52:51
I just want to be a part of it. I want to be a
2:52:53
part of it. It's a pleasure, man. It's been a great conversation. I thought
2:52:55
we were going to talk for an hour. We talked for two and a
2:52:57
half or three, but I've loved it. It's been
2:52:59
almost three hours, and I've been dreaming about
2:53:01
this since Billy and I even exchanged numbers
2:53:03
a years ago. Thank you
2:53:05
for taking the time. I really, really appreciate it. You're
2:53:09
a man I look up to, literally, and
2:53:11
spiritually. Thank you
2:53:13
so much. And I pray that this opens
2:53:15
up a lot of people's hearts and minds. Me too. And
2:53:18
God willing, the next time we chat, I'll be at a
2:53:20
different point in my life where we could Iron Sharper and
2:53:22
Zion, but I'll be chasing that tail, man. I'm on it,
2:53:25
dude. I'm trying to be the next Tony, dude. Thank you
2:53:27
so much, bro. You'll be the best you. That's even better.
2:53:29
Thank you so much for having me. No, no, no. I'm
2:53:32
coming for you, Tony. I'm trying to be the next Tony.
2:53:34
God bless.
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