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#50 Tony Robbins & George Janko Talk About God

#50 Tony Robbins & George Janko Talk About God

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#50 Tony Robbins & George Janko Talk About God

#50 Tony Robbins & George Janko Talk About God

#50 Tony Robbins & George Janko Talk About God

#50 Tony Robbins & George Janko Talk About God

Friday, 19th January 2024
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I wouldn't. What? If you're gonna come here to this

0:02

incredible place you create a cop planet earth and you

0:04

walk up to a new creations. you say hey creation

0:06

or your i can this thing I created for you're

0:08

going to person says god I'm glad you showed up.

0:10

Provide a bone to pick with your first of all

0:13

why you make it so effing the hot all the

0:15

time and then you make these stupid people that get

0:17

him my way and interfere with i'm trying to accomplish

0:19

Why? When you make everybody nice and connected even a

0:21

little red ants. A By I mean why would you

0:23

create such a thing of your god. And.

0:26

Then God goes to what it was other creation

0:28

since as how you like a misplaced this oh

0:30

god thank god you're here This I've always wanted

0:32

to thank you directly. This the most amazing paradise.

0:34

It's so unbelievable. First of all you never get

0:36

bored dish always change in temperature Assamese you bring

0:38

somebody people to challenge me to grow and you

0:41

made these all right. Answer: These things are courageous.

0:43

Go one million my side and they by It's

0:45

amazing how the question is if you were god

0:47

would you want to hang out with a first

0:49

person to the second one while so I tell

0:51

people say there is no god as others god

0:53

just been so much want to hang out with.

0:56

Your to ship. Out

1:00

I don't think was how often I

1:02

sit down somebody the so some nice

1:04

this was going lot of that. Made.

1:08

That we something to think my own way that had

1:10

a lot of fun and. What's

1:13

up guys? Welcome back to the George Janko show

1:15

today! We have the leader amongst leaders, Tony Robbins

1:17

and there's two things that you guys should stay

1:20

tuned for. One, the time to rice on the

1:22

that's actually around the corner. It's something you guys

1:24

are not allowed check out Second, his book The

1:26

Holy Grail of Investing. I literally had him sign

1:28

this and give it to me because I'm truly

1:31

taking this home. I'll be guys. Enjoy tennis interview.

1:33

Let's get into Welcome Back. I was going to

1:35

jump right into this. I'm super excited about this

1:37

about the Central. Get a just smile. Let's give

1:40

such a contagious my ah A or you just

1:42

cried a few. Minutes ago. However

1:46

that I have you know where you calling

1:48

a doctor's identical going to be cracked as

1:50

far it's going to be caught up cutting

1:53

all if I start crying and cutting all

1:55

gotta be so much he's a can talk

1:57

some an arena just like ah. Good

2:00

to be with you again, Charlie. It's such a pleasure. A

2:03

lot of people do intros and they'll talk about,

2:07

they'll talk about all your exciting

2:09

things that you're having, but I have a personal one that I wanted

2:11

to talk to you about. When

2:13

I first met you, we were

2:15

shooting Impulsive and I was at

2:17

your house and it

2:20

was the first time in my life that

2:22

I ever met somebody that I was like,

2:25

I would be blessed if I was half the man that you

2:28

are. Oh, you're overstating that math,

2:30

but thank you, McIghner. Truly, truly, I'm

2:32

not, I'll tell you why. I walked

2:34

around and you could tell who a

2:36

man is by his surroundings and

2:38

from Billy to Rob to Casey to every

2:42

single person you have around

2:44

are so unbelievably joyful and

2:46

peaceful to be around. And

2:48

I got a second to meet your wife

2:51

and after we were done, you

2:53

were showing me your slide and all

2:55

of the trophies and the gym and the

2:58

bunker that you had and we're

3:00

walking around. I'm looking at, I thought was

3:02

ocean, but it's the pool. And I

3:05

sat there and I was like, you

3:07

figured it out at such a level

3:09

where it's, there's

3:12

a prayer that I've been saying now. When

3:14

I was a child, I used to be like, God used me for

3:16

something good. Yes, that's my prayer before I go on stage every time.

3:18

And I feel like

3:21

both of us have gotten at least to a place where

3:24

we have done something for God and his

3:26

works here. And when

3:29

I sat there, there's this prayer

3:31

where I go, I don't wanna be great in

3:33

mankind's eyes. I wanna be great in your eyes.

3:36

And I want him to look down

3:38

from heaven with all of the greats

3:41

that are from the Bible and be like, that's our guy.

3:43

And when I met you, I can't

3:46

imagine what it feels like to be

3:49

anywhere near the accomplishments that you have

3:51

done for other people. When

3:55

you look up at the stars, right? You see a

3:57

bunch of stars, but there's always one that's so much

3:59

brighter than the. rest of them and I

4:01

truly feel that's how you look like from

4:03

heaven. You

4:06

might as well cut off now

4:08

after that. You're beyond kind but

4:10

I am very blessed and I

4:12

think it takes both. I don't have the delusion that

4:15

it's me. I know that things come

4:17

through you want to serve something more than yourself. That sounds

4:19

trite to some people but it's really real for me. My

4:21

prayer before I go on stage every time I have this

4:24

physical set of motions and things I do with

4:26

my body get myself ready so I can explode

4:28

on stage and hold 20,000 people for 12 hours a day

4:32

for five, six, seven days in a row when

4:34

they won't sit for a three-hour movie. Somebody spent

4:36

three hundred dollars to do but my prayer always

4:38

before I misused me Lord and I didn't visualize the

4:40

impact to where people be when we're done and

4:43

so I've been really blessed and I've also had the

4:45

privilege of doing this. This is gonna be my 47th

4:47

year to hold you. 31. Okay

4:50

so I've been doing it 16 years longer

4:52

than you've been alive to give you an idea so

4:54

I could be an idiot at this point and I'd

4:56

have to notice there are patterns that make the difference

4:58

in the quality of a person's life and their spirit

5:00

and their heart and their body and their emotions and

5:03

their business and their careers and hopefully if you keep

5:05

growing and you're trying to serve something more than yourself

5:07

you're inspired. I really believe life

5:09

supports whatever supports more of life. God

5:12

the universe so everyone has different beliefs in mind

5:14

personally as God but supports something

5:16

that supports more. In other words if you

5:18

get a desire you know desire right Latin

5:20

means of the father so if you have

5:23

a desire you already have the ability

5:25

to fulfill it but certain desires will

5:27

meet your needs and you're part of life and so

5:29

you get insights for that but then suddenly when I

5:31

married a woman had been married twice before me and

5:33

had children from both of them and I adopted them

5:36

as my own all of a sudden I had

5:38

a I was 24 and had a 17 year

5:40

old son an 11 year old daughter a five

5:42

year old one on the way I don't know

5:44

there was a different level I need to serve

5:46

something even more and I'm trying to serve community

5:48

if you're I'm not talking about virtue signaling I'm

5:50

talking about well you know in your soul when

5:53

you know you're trying to serve something more than

5:55

yourself you get insights that are indescribable And they've

5:57

come to me at all the right times when I've needed

5:59

to. Seven

6:04

years, my forty seventh you're doing this. I

6:06

just feel so blessed and a deeply described

6:08

her are the greatest blessing my life, my

6:10

family and my chosen family once I surround

6:13

myself. Whether just beautiful souls are wrong, on

6:15

a mission and on our mission is really

6:17

have people have the most extraordinary life possible.

6:19

And that means live on their terms not

6:21

mine. Whatever they want they want, be closer

6:23

to God. They what they want to build

6:25

a beautiful family. They want to build a

6:27

business. They want to transform the body. They

6:29

want to move to a different economic level.

6:31

I've been obsessed with finding answers for my.

6:34

Whole life and having tools really work. but

6:36

it's It's guided by the spirit of service

6:38

and people feel that if they think it's

6:40

only when except with me for twelve hours

6:42

a day he can take that he of

6:44

day after day. And and that's how you

6:46

win people over because you're not trying to

6:48

win over to you, don't win him over

6:50

to what's really possible for them and put

6:52

a plan together for it so I'm very

6:54

regretful. So thank you Prose kind words. they

6:56

killed over the top. To me I'm not

6:58

gonna become something of office manager sort of

7:00

a plan. A hassle arena is such a

7:02

pleasure to deserve a diplomat. My first thing

7:04

before leaving. Games can have so much stuff at

7:07

I'd love to laugh. Now I'm sitting here. As

7:09

a student, I'm not sitting here. Is your like

7:11

I'm I'm taking a moment. Also, god willing that's

7:13

clever as watching this could take this as well.

7:15

On. You. Tube you went from being

7:18

an eleven year old named. Boy.

7:20

Who's. Hungry on Thanksgiving watching your father

7:22

slammed the door on somebody say says

7:25

fantasies family to being in a helicopter

7:27

thinking that the people that are coming

7:29

to your. Your.

7:31

Venice is gonna be stuck as of

7:33

the traffic, but then you realize that

7:35

the traffic is people that are coming

7:37

to that sewing their to seating a

7:39

billion people. And nailing it two.

7:41

Years before it was even

7:43

scheduled. You went from.

7:46

Respectfully. The bottom all the way

7:48

to the top. Now I know

7:51

that is from the Grace of God. I

7:53

agree on. But. Who

7:55

is your Tony? Who. was the

7:57

man that opens your spirit up and

8:00

and molded you into the man who's gonna mold

8:02

many men? I

8:04

think it's never one thing besides

8:07

God. I don't think it's any

8:09

one thing. I had so many great mentors a

8:11

long way. I had a mother that was very volatile,

8:13

but also really beautiful. I wouldn't be who I am

8:15

without her. But when she drank

8:17

alcohol and took prescription drugs, Valium, she

8:20

got very, very violent. And I had a younger brother,

8:22

five years younger, and a younger sister, seven years younger.

8:25

And I had to be able

8:27

to become a practical psychologist and be able

8:29

to manage her spaints so she didn't

8:31

get violent. And I was five when

8:33

in high school, I was telling people the difference. I'm

8:35

six, seven now, I say it's personal growth that made

8:37

that happen, right? But I grew 10 inches in New

8:39

York as of a tumor, but before that I was

8:42

really small. My mom was small. And plus I was

8:44

kind of getting trained. You did whatever she said, and

8:46

she would get crazy. I poured liquid soap down my

8:48

throat till I threw up, because

8:50

she said I was lying and I wasn't. And when somebody you

8:52

love is trying to harm you, it

8:56

does a weird thing to your head. But at the

8:58

same time, I just felt guided to know that, look,

9:00

all this is for a deeper reason. I don't know

9:02

what it is. I had no clue, but I do

9:04

now. I mean, it made me that practical psychologist and

9:06

those skills just grew and grew and grew. And

9:09

so along the way, I had some great teachers.

9:12

I met a man when I was 17 by the name of

9:14

Jim Rohn. I first took a speed reading class because

9:16

I was so obsessed with finding a

9:18

way to learn. I always wanted to learn anything I

9:20

could, Was this when you were a

9:22

janitor? Yeah, I was a janitor. It was one

9:24

of those literally in junior high school and high school. I worked

9:26

as a janitor because my family was very poor. We'd

9:29

have enough money for food a lot of times. And

9:31

that's why at 11, we got fed at Thanksgiving. And

9:34

that was probably the first huge breakthrough for me.

9:36

I always loved people, but I

9:38

think when somebody who didn't

9:40

want even want credit fed my family,

9:43

it made me believe strangers care. My father had four

9:45

different fathers and my fourth father always said, no, it

9:47

gives a damn. And it looked that way where we

9:49

lived. It certainly felt that way. But

9:52

then it's like I had this pure evidence that somebody

9:55

cared about our family, doesn't even know who we are.

9:57

And they looked out for this this way. Stranger

10:00

care about me, I could care about strangers, and that was I

10:02

think the first step. The second step was

10:04

just one of the answers because I wanted to get

10:06

out of that environment, there was nothing like that, and

10:09

so I started reading as the solution. I could

10:11

read Emerson's essays, As a Man Thinketh, you

10:13

know, anything that would project, I read biographies

10:15

and autobiographies, and that helped me too because

10:17

I saw some of the most incredible people

10:20

in the world had incredibly

10:22

rough lives, but that didn't stop

10:24

them. And so it gave me a model in my head of

10:26

what was possible. And then, you know,

10:29

a combination of guidance and prayer, and then I

10:31

meet these people along the way because I think

10:33

everybody's journey is the hero's journey.

10:35

You know, if you look at all the stories,

10:37

you know the hero's journey, what happens? Your life

10:39

is a certain way, and maybe you're somewhat comfortable

10:41

or bored, and then something comes along and challenges

10:44

you. You get diagnosed with

10:46

a tumor in your brain. I've had that

10:48

experience. You lose a mother or father or

10:50

all of them, which I've buried them all,

10:52

gone through that experience. You get somebody who,

10:54

you know, you thought is your friend who

10:56

betrays you. You, you know, have a financial

10:58

issue. There's so many things coming, but that

11:00

challenge comes for a purpose, and the purpose

11:02

is, I believe, the universe and God calling

11:04

you to go on the journey on an

11:06

adventure to discover who you really are, to

11:08

find the deeper parts of yourself so you

11:10

have something more to share and contribute to

11:12

people. And so when that call comes, you

11:15

know, if you are willing to go on the journey,

11:17

if you don't sit there and just give up or

11:19

complain or come up with excuses, then you have to

11:21

step into the unknown. And I stepped into the unknown.

11:24

I had no net, and I put myself on the

11:26

line to do things that seemed crazy. I'd get up

11:28

and challenge psychologists and psychiatrists and give me your

11:30

worst patient. I'll handle them in less than an

11:32

hour and produce the result when they've worked on

11:34

it for seven years with a snake phobia. Then

11:36

I pulled it off. I learned skills and I pulled it off, and

11:39

then all of a sudden people are coming to me for everything,

11:41

you know, or, you know,

11:43

going to the US Army and saying to the

11:45

general there, I can take any training program in

11:47

the Army, cut it in half and increase the

11:49

competency. And he said, you're crazy. I said, no,

11:51

I'm expensive. And we appreciate it.

11:53

Crazy expensive. But when

11:56

I made a deal with, I get nothing unless I produced

11:58

the result. Right. So I have no net. Do you

12:00

follow me? So when you go

12:02

on a journey like that and you put

12:04

yourself on the line where you can't afford

12:06

to fail, you don't usually. Usually the human

12:08

psyche and spirit finds a way, especially if

12:11

it's trying to serve something bigger. And so

12:13

as I did that, I met new people. I had great

12:15

new teachers. So I started with this man, Jim Rohn, when

12:17

I was 17. I worked

12:19

for a man. I had three jobs. I'm

12:22

still in high school at the time. And my

12:24

father said, you know, this guy used to be

12:26

such a loser. And now he's so successful. And

12:28

he was late 70s. He's

12:30

buying houses in Orange County, California and fixing

12:33

them and flipping them. Right. So

12:35

that was like wealth to me. Right. So he

12:37

needed somebody help move stuff. He's trying

12:39

to do as cheaply as possible. So I volunteered

12:41

and got paid and I worked super hard. And

12:44

so the guy took me to lunch. He goes,

12:46

man, he's, I really, you're the strongest, hardest worker.

12:48

You got the best work ethic. You got a

12:50

great attitude. I said, well, I want to interview

12:52

you. I'd like to ask you a couple of

12:54

questions. He goes, okay. I said,

12:56

my dad said, you used to be such a loser. I'm not even successful.

12:58

I wasn't trying to say anything. Not only can you

13:00

do this, right? How'd you do it? I really wanted to

13:02

know because I wanted to know the pathway, right? I

13:07

was always looking for the path. How did he take that? He,

13:09

the first, your father said, well, then he kind of

13:12

laughed and said, well, it's probably pretty true. You know,

13:14

and he said, well, it started by me going to

13:16

a seminar. And he said,

13:18

wow, seminar. Now I'm figuring it out.

13:20

Yeah. It goes, I go, what's

13:22

the seminar? He goes, it's where this man who's super

13:24

successful over decades, he takes all the best of what

13:26

he's learned and he teaches it to you like in

13:29

an evening, like three and a half, four hours or

13:31

a weekend. You know, if you go for longer programs

13:33

and it can save you a decade or two.

13:36

I was like, wow, I've never even heard of such a thing.

13:38

I said, could you get me in? And

13:41

he said, yeah, but he didn't have

13:43

any follow up. So I said, well, will you? And he said, no.

13:46

What do you mean? You just set up a great way.

13:48

He goes, because if you don't pay for it, you

13:50

won't value it. I said, look, man, I make 40

13:52

bucks a week as a janitor. I'm here working for

13:54

you. I'm going to school. I'm supporting my family. I

13:56

said, you know, if you can get me in, it

13:58

would help. He goes, no. So how much

14:00

is it? He said $35. Now $35 would be like $250

14:03

now to give you an idea of inflation. So

14:06

it was a week's pay, but he was to speak for

14:08

me. I bet if you asked him in a nicer way,

14:11

he probably would have paid that. Hahahah. Anybody didn't call him

14:13

a loser up front? Yeah, I never thought he would be

14:15

a piece of shit. I'd just get the dough, man. Hey

14:17

guys, just a reminder that the merch is out for a

14:19

few more days. So if you haven't got a chance to

14:21

go to the heart of David's Outco, go ahead and click

14:23

the link in my description. Or you can shop on YouTube.

14:25

Thank you guys so much and I hope you guys enjoy

14:27

the rest of the podcast. Hahahah. But

14:30

I took the money. I thought it was the biggest decision

14:32

of my life. And I went and sat

14:34

in this seminar. I drove up my 1968

14:38

Volkswagen Baja Bug that exploded when I turned it

14:40

off and handed the keys to the valet and

14:42

went to this business seminar. With a blue

14:45

leisure suit, I got at the thrift store and fake gold

14:47

chains. I was going to make this happen. And I sat

14:49

in his room with all these older people and he was

14:51

talking and I'd read so many of these books. I took

14:53

this reading course. I was trying to read a book a

14:55

day. I didn't, but I read 700 books in seven years.

14:57

I'd read a lot by that time. It's almost like Cat

14:59

Williams. Hahaha. Yeah,

15:01

right. And then I'm finishing

15:04

his sentences and so then I eventually got the

15:06

chance to go to work for him. And I

15:08

went to work and I learned to give speeches

15:10

because I really believed in what he was doing.

15:12

And then it just grew. Then I eventually got

15:14

exposed to what's called neuro-linguistic programming. Some of your

15:16

audience may have heard of NLP. In

15:18

the 70s, it was the breakthrough when it comes

15:20

to creating change. And you could learn how

15:23

to eliminate a phobia in less than an hour, not

15:25

seven years. And I, unlike the therapists

15:27

who had to unlearn what they learned, I

15:29

convinced this man, John Grinder, let me come in the class.

15:31

I said, I'm not like them. I'll just take what you

15:33

do and run with it, man. I'll make it happen. And

15:36

I was literally putting my ear to the door at the

15:38

Holiday Inn by the LAX. So he finally said, I'm going

15:40

to charge you. Come on in and do it. So I

15:42

went through the six months training and I learned these tools.

15:44

And then I got on radio up

15:46

in Canada. So my career really

15:48

launched and I'll show the heck up. I give you a picture. And

15:51

this I didn't know was a shock jock show.

15:53

In those days, there weren't many shock jocks. If

15:55

you don't mind, what is that? It's

15:57

like, you know, your morning group that's, you know,

15:59

like. Some kind of thing when he. Couldn't.

16:04

And so I was young I know going

16:06

in the same sorts idea radio show and

16:08

he starts kind of talk to me and

16:10

he brings this psychiatry starts and I've been

16:13

talking about what I can wipe out any

16:15

phobia you come see me I don't care

16:17

what the problem is of one our i

16:19

am one stop therapist or oh and what

16:21

rights and subs on so sooner people call

16:23

you discover that yes yes yes yes you

16:25

know and up and then a psychiatrist gossip

16:27

he says you know your starlets and you're

16:29

a liar people like you should not be

16:31

lot on the radio. And

16:34

I pause. and I'm a nice guy. but it's

16:36

parts. Can assess your finer.

16:38

I'm. From the streets I'm a

16:40

punchy twice Tobacco Try to be elegantly

16:42

simple syrup. Let me ask you questions.

16:45

I. Said that. Are you

16:47

scientists? Isn't. Of course I'm

16:49

a physician. As a great

16:52

some of your scientists you'd never make

16:54

an assumption and you'd want to have

16:56

a way to test the hypothesis. An

16:58

educated guess I sets of your hypothesis

17:00

is a muslims in a while because

17:02

you never seen someone get results are

17:04

rapidly So I said the best way

17:06

to test hypothesis is for be worth

17:08

one of your precious I said once

17:10

the undoing of free seminar, the holiday

17:12

and. Two nights amount announced

17:14

right, got enough money and I said

17:16

when it's you give me money were

17:18

space and somebody you've never been able.

17:20

Curious and I'm sure you have votes

17:22

Reform, Pause and five one so that

17:24

it he goes. And I said an

17:26

altered America's like make my patients do

17:28

this as wasn't our patience to blow

17:30

to try something new. And.

17:33

Protecting me when we passed. As

17:35

long pause what what this one woman in oh

17:37

she has a snake is go to sleep at

17:39

night he had dreams that a snake bites are

17:41

in the face and of we've had dreams like

17:44

that are so vivid you did you dream when

17:46

pops out she'd wake up and if it happens

17:48

sometimes three or four times a night and so

17:50

how long you been treating earnest and seven years

17:52

my super bring an amateur take me ten or

17:54

fifteen seasons I can face and a diver. And

17:57

The Radio Guy cuts I'm Also Ceremony at Night of The

17:59

House. Suzan Mazur really takes off

18:01

because I show up in in those days I

18:04

was hoping to have like fifty people so up

18:06

for free events five hundred and fifty plus people

18:08

so I would shall I started I got to

18:10

seeing the places it doesn't says what they want

18:12

to see the zoo now but you have a

18:14

look at how is it is have had to

18:17

shows up to the fuck is so browns other

18:19

so know there's anybody reduce your out on brand

18:21

new saw I'm looking around and I know this

18:23

guy looks like l knew his name is on

18:25

his name song picturing I could skew know it's

18:27

a guy with a skilled women on his arm

18:30

in cook for six outer of it's and know

18:32

what else would you have somebody his voice to

18:34

do what I do I didn't help if I

18:36

ever met him and bigger picture what they look

18:38

like they're going to Florida south side of the

18:40

sixers di di scared moments and look around rumors

18:43

that time starts on he didn't swaps I get

18:45

up as a good evening I'm I'm Tony Robbins

18:47

I sign here tonight show you how can make

18:49

changes in minutes you probably thought with months or

18:51

years or decades as have been claim and github

18:54

I say at the site or burst open like

18:56

a movie to make the sit ups in the

18:58

sky About this topic I say what? Is. To

19:03

test his. Aides

19:08

not a big stage rights he was little

19:10

guy with his women wrapped around his arms.

19:12

News goes I got sick his head when

19:14

Sigma Musketeers the woman in his Watts off

19:16

So I submit what's come up with how

19:18

detailed or to sit in the chair and

19:20

I said well how did you heard me

19:22

on the radio that I everybody is as

19:24

whether that right I said well this is

19:26

a woman in question I said ma'am I

19:28

understand that he worked with this man for.

19:30

Seven years into the and I said

19:32

okay and you promise you have a

19:34

phobia to smokes and I screamed it's

19:36

and have you ever seen a phobic

19:39

response is conscious and syndrome or spots.

19:42

Spinning and people freaking out. I just broke

19:44

her parents and I said okay, we're going

19:46

to handle this right now And I did.

19:48

This wasn't my technique is technique, I learned

19:50

from it'll be But I was willing to

19:52

put myself on the line. That was a

19:54

secret. Burn Bridges rights. I had his seats

19:56

and sure enough it took me about fifteen,

19:58

twenty minutes and people watch. He

20:04

also. Makes no move and I

20:06

said day party? Philosophical? Really?

20:08

Com? Is it okay? Just

20:10

one second I walk mine on a desk

20:12

back behind me. Now have a bad know

20:15

I swear to God and I come as

20:17

expensive as is the largest. They put the

20:19

audio c the bag moving right so they

20:21

already have this thing her back to me

20:23

and I gotta be about so put this

20:26

make a distaste Sputnik far why not interface

20:28

literally as you're all those is actually represent

20:30

Going to say is that stay with it

20:32

Rights and and everything They change their body.

20:34

This change in her nervous systems that a

20:37

great. It wasn't simple techniques com nancy spirit

20:39

this make swimming. Think it was made before. And

20:42

I said how do you feel about snakes

20:44

and schools are not very attractive sense as

20:46

the sailed around it's they want to. So

20:48

many points what launch boats And I said

20:50

well, would you be willing to hold it

20:52

Schools, they're not very attractive. I said look,

20:54

you were seeking out of control thinking of

20:57

a snake. now there's one in front of

20:59

you you may find attractive. It or not,

21:01

freaking, you're not seeking. you're not spitting. Second,

21:04

Because I don't on the inside. Scoop.

21:10

As an appellate for subsidies noted is

21:12

like know as much as a minority

21:14

still have any way. Long story short

21:17

to story of at the end of

21:19

that. I've. Found my I found my

21:21

tool I found how to get people's attention and prove

21:23

what he did was real and some him i i

21:25

stepped doing these free just events i i didn't have

21:27

any them as i got the boss and drugs and

21:30

smoking and and women out and or had not had

21:32

an orgasm and ten years gave an orgasm without

21:34

touching requires and I got come up to me going

21:36

to teach me i do that when i. Was

21:42

all about that often? What's

21:44

on the how are you even with up with

21:46

all about that man And I know, yeah, problems

21:48

are there wasn't. A moon up the touch

21:51

them. Laugh at his

21:53

they're pissed off his sister and rather the

21:55

any couldn't believe it. He did not apologize

21:57

on the nature of the last several decades.

21:59

To be fair I was are young and

22:01

full of piss and vinegar and I needed

22:03

people going to therapists over and over again

22:05

for the same as a problem when you

22:07

I knew could be changed much quicker like

22:10

using like you wouldn't have a phone from

22:12

fifteen years ago. it was a real phone

22:14

avoided you be an idiot right or computer

22:16

They not updated the technology and most forms

22:18

of psychology and psychiatry the doing stuff from

22:20

one hundred and fifty years ago still so

22:22

I felt pretty intense and saw it. I

22:24

didn't have a good out interaction with him

22:26

to certain said to be fair funny but

22:29

it a long term fire. My but I

22:31

have the same time I've you know now

22:33

if train how people get the study, my

22:35

work and big credit to be a therapist

22:37

and X so it's it's kind of grown.

22:39

I I trained therapist around the world the

22:41

state but it went from that to okay.

22:44

Working some great athletes and turning around. Had

22:46

a guy that was exposed to make the

22:48

team and the alley Olympics and see what

22:50

he know he made a team that won

22:52

the gold medal in that.my reputation and and

22:54

next thing I know I'm working with Gorbachev

22:56

and I got Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela, Bill

22:59

Clinton and sports teams and it just grew

23:01

Governance: All this was because I understood and

23:03

I want your audience understand. it

23:05

as something of sided you the you don't like. A

23:08

behavior and emotion of thought. It's.

23:11

Not You. There's nothing wrong with you.

23:13

It's a pattern and we can develop

23:15

patterns in to them so often that

23:17

we think we are patterns as as

23:19

the habit. a habit of thinking. Have

23:21

an emotion over every moment you overeat,

23:23

when you're bored, when you're pissed off,

23:25

or when you worried. rights to pattern

23:28

you contains any pattern when you start

23:30

thinking there's something wrong with you. But

23:32

also, I've learned that anybody that's great

23:34

and anything you're an actor understand you

23:36

do music. I did know that before

23:38

or comedian a packet you are graded

23:40

patterns. We wouldn't be successful. If

23:42

somebody is great musician, they know certain

23:44

patterns, know how to get their. Three.

23:47

skills first go you gotta do is you gotta

23:49

recognize patterns because otherwise sing sing random and so

23:51

overwhelming at the world seems random like oh my

23:53

god is the worst time to be alive was

23:55

bullshit i saw people like they got to know

23:58

that it's a worse time the world pull for

24:00

example, I have so much hate. I

24:02

can show you the postcards that were used

24:05

that were posted by the two of

24:07

the founding fathers, Adams and Jefferson, and

24:09

you've read what they said, it makes

24:11

Trump and Biden and everybody around them

24:13

sound like they're the nicest people in

24:15

the world. I mean, it's cyclical. We

24:17

go through cycles, right? Just like seasons.

24:19

So once you recognize a pattern, you

24:22

can run a business. Once you recognize a pattern, you can

24:24

know what's going on in the stock market. You can be

24:26

a better investor. Once you recognize a pattern, you know what

24:28

to do with your body for more energy. If you recognize

24:30

a pattern, you can decipher how to make a relationship work.

24:33

The first skill is recognizing, the second skill is

24:35

learning to use it. And when

24:37

you look at somebody who's masterful, pick any subject

24:40

in that area, in that domain, they know the best

24:42

patterns and they know how to use it. Now you

24:44

start, let's say you're gonna play the piano by

24:46

playing somebody else's patterns because they figured it out.

24:49

And then as you do that long enough, there gets to a point

24:51

where you learn how to use it, and then you get to the

24:54

third stage where you create your own pattern. And

24:56

that's when you become kind of the master of

24:58

your particular domain, whatever it is you're really good

25:00

at it, if you do it long enough and

25:02

strong enough. So once I understood that, I started

25:04

doing that with businesses. I realized

25:06

business is a pattern. There's certain things that make

25:08

them go, certain things that make, and so then

25:11

I started building them. I started one business and

25:13

I was overwhelmed. And then two, and I did

25:15

things that I really just thought changed the quality

25:17

of people's lives. Businesses I felt passionate about. And

25:19

now I've got 114 companies who

25:21

do $7 billion in business. And

25:23

I couldn't even run one before. And

25:26

it's all just because I know this pattern. So what

25:28

I do is teach people those patterns, help

25:30

them understand the patterns that control them so they

25:32

can change, help them understand the patterns of something

25:34

they want to master, their body, their emotion, their

25:36

business. And once you know them, it's like, you know the

25:38

pathway to get from where you are to where you want

25:40

to be, then it just comes down

25:42

to doing the hard work. Because it's hard work.

25:44

There's no way around the hard work part. But

25:46

it's fun when you get momentum. And

25:49

it's easier. It's like easier to succeed when you have

25:51

momentum than it is to fail. And so

25:53

that's been my life's work. So I'm now, you know,

25:55

47 years into this, and

25:58

I worked in every country in the world, 195 countries. And

26:00

I have the most blessed life because I can go

26:02

anywhere in the world and I've helped so many millions

26:05

of people that I get so much love because when

26:07

you pour out love like that and

26:09

you really deliver for decades and always

26:11

up your game, you touch a

26:14

lot of lives. And I've had people grow up with

26:16

me. I remember when people started recognizing me like, you're

26:18

that guy. And then I had those infomercials for a

26:20

while. I'm like, you're that real estate guy. No, no,

26:22

no. Oh, you're Tony Robbins. Oh, you

26:24

changed my life. Oh, now people come and go, I've

26:26

been listening to you since I was 25 and they

26:28

were like 50 years old. Have

26:31

I been around that long? I guess so. The answer

26:33

is yes. So it's a beautiful, beautiful experience. But I

26:35

share the story because you ask it, but I want

26:37

you to know it wasn't a straight line. There's

26:40

so many ups and downs along the way. If you see

26:42

a straight line in nature, it wasn't made by God. It

26:44

was made by a human, right? Because

26:46

real living things go up and down. Now

26:48

if they keep growing, the up and down

26:51

leads to something greater. And fortunately, I've not

26:53

given up and pursued that and been guided

26:55

and had a lot of grace

26:57

of my life along with the hard work. I

27:00

remember being in your house and you made a

27:02

joke. You go, I always wanted a trophy and

27:04

rings. I just took a different route. And

27:07

I'm sitting there like, what the hell? I

27:09

go, you trained Serena

27:11

Williams, Conor McGregor, four presidents.

27:14

You have all of these leaders. You're the

27:17

leader that the leaders go to for advice.

27:19

And I'm not even blowing smoke up your ass. This

27:21

is legit what people say about you. How

27:24

do you take great people and make them even greater

27:26

than they are? Because now they're performing at a high

27:28

level. Did you have

27:30

that same mindset with the man who's

27:32

unfortunate with the champions? Well,

27:35

yes, I think, you know, people

27:37

come to me in one of two extremes. They're the best

27:39

in the world at what they do. And why do they

27:41

come to me? Because someone who's the best in the world

27:44

is always, they know if I make a little 10 degree

27:46

shift here and I go this direction or

27:48

I make this 10 degree shift this direction, I go

27:50

out a week from now, a month from now, six

27:52

months from now, a year from now, I have a

27:54

different destination, different destiny, different impact. So the best in

27:57

the world, no, a little thing can change everything and

27:59

they want it. to know those and I've

28:01

been obsessed, I'm an obsessive person, I've been

28:03

obsessed for 47 years with asking

28:05

the question, what makes the difference in the quality of

28:07

people's lives? What makes the difference in the quality of

28:09

their performance? Because it's not your

28:12

background. Like, you know, I used to

28:14

think when I was growing up poor, we had no money

28:16

and my fourth father and like, what's wrong here? And I

28:19

remember thinking, well, it's like those people are

28:21

lucky and we're just not. But

28:23

the truth of the matter is you see people

28:25

that have the worst background whatsoever and they just

28:27

made different decisions. They just get moving forward, right?

28:29

So for me, when I look at people, the

28:31

best come to me because they wanna keep getting

28:33

better. And the other time people come to me

28:35

is when they're hungry. What I mean

28:37

by hungry is, if you see my

28:39

audience, it's every color, every background, every age group,

28:41

every country in the world. How, what do they

28:44

have in common? It's not demographics. It's

28:46

a psychographic of wanting more. And

28:48

so you might want more because you

28:50

just went through a divorce. You want

28:53

more because you just had a birthday

28:55

with a zero on it, or maybe after 30, a

28:57

five or a zero on it. You start reevaluating

29:00

your life a little bit. You might do it

29:02

because you lost your job or something

29:04

happened to the business. So pain can

29:06

trigger that hunger. And some people, that's

29:08

not pain. They're just hungry to be more, do more

29:10

and give more. That's my audience. I'm

29:13

not for somebody in lukewarm middle. They're

29:15

not gonna come in and go work day and night

29:17

with me for three or four days. They're gonna go,

29:19

oh, I do all this crap. It's not worth it.

29:21

So that's not my audience. But when someone's in pain

29:23

or someone has drive, that's my

29:25

audience. That's people I serve. To answer your question

29:27

with somebody's great, I just find the

29:30

little things. They take

29:32

them next level, or if they've had an athlete and

29:35

they're having a slump, I go back and find her,

29:37

or a financial trader. I find out what were they

29:39

doing at their best in their head, in their psychology.

29:41

I go to the very depth of what's happening. When

29:43

I worked for the army, I took

29:46

the pistol shooting program that took them, I don't

29:48

know, almost a century to develop. And

29:50

I cut the training in more than half and tripled

29:53

the number of people at experts. How did I do

29:55

it? I went and said, give

29:57

me the three best experts in the entire military

29:59

at shooting. a 45 caliber pistol. I

30:01

never shot a 45 caliber pistol, never shot a gun before. I

30:04

told him I'm gonna do this, right? Now I had a partner

30:06

at the time. How do you sell this? How

30:09

do you sell this? How do you go to the military and be like, I've

30:11

never shot a gun in my life. I didn't tell him that part. But

30:14

I had a partner that was from the Special Forces and

30:16

was John Grinder, he was the one who created NLP. So

30:19

it was the two of us together. And then the day

30:21

I'm supposed to go to the army after a year of

30:23

going through top secret clearance and all this stuff, he

30:25

calls me and says, I'm at the airport, I'm really

30:27

sorry, I have this problem. I gotta go handle it,

30:29

you're on your own. So

30:32

my guts are going crazy. I

30:34

show up underground at this facility in

30:36

Virginia by the security

30:38

services. And they bring me the best guy

30:41

in the army, the best guy, I think it was the

30:43

Marines, and then the best coach of them all. And

30:45

they walk in and they're like, you know, 45,

30:47

50 years old, and I'm 24, and I'm in

30:49

a t-shirt and jeans. And they say, hey,

30:52

where's the teacher? And I said, well, you mean

30:54

the instructor? I said, that's me. And

30:56

they said, where's the teacher? It's

30:59

me, how old are you? I'm 24, I just turned 24, I

31:01

think. And they said, how

31:04

long have you been shooting? I said, well, I've never

31:06

shot before, but we're gonna have a good time today.

31:08

And they were like, looked at me like, are you,

31:10

am I being punked? No, no, no, I don't need

31:12

to have shot. And they, you're gonna shoot a gun.

31:14

So they give me a 45-caliber pistol, we're in this

31:16

underground range, I'll never forget. And they're

31:18

watching me, I've never shot a gun before, right? And

31:20

I'm shaking a little bit and boom. And I put

31:23

the bullet in the ceiling because if you had a

31:25

kickback, did not build rapport. But here's what I did,

31:27

so you understand what I do, and I

31:29

answer your question. I said, I will learn how to

31:31

do this, just like we're gonna train other people to do this, but

31:33

I'm gonna learn the right way, your way. So

31:35

we're gonna start with pick up your gun, all

31:38

three of you, and I want you to go through

31:40

the very first step, like you're about to go shoot

31:42

this gun, and we're on the range, and I go

31:44

stop. And I'd figure out what they're doing in their head.

31:47

And I discovered something that, some things were idiosyncratic,

31:49

like different for each of them. I look for

31:51

the things that are universal, that's what works. And

31:54

all of them, without knowing it, took

31:56

the target, which looked a million miles away

31:58

to me, and mentally. they brought the target

32:01

right here. So in their visualization

32:03

of the target, they brought it closer. Well, it's

32:05

right here, you felt certain you're gonna hit it.

32:07

I'm sitting there going, how am I gonna shoot

32:09

this thing way the hell out there? So

32:11

that was one of the things, I watched the rhythm

32:13

of what they did. I saw what they did with

32:16

their breath, how they held the gun. And so I

32:18

broke it all down into steps until I found what

32:20

they all had in common. And then I took a

32:22

new group of people and trained them to do it.

32:25

And in a day and a half, not four days,

32:27

we qualified everybody and tripled the number of people at

32:29

expert. And the Colonel who wrote up the

32:31

project to the governor, to the general said, the first

32:33

breakthrough in pistol shooting since World War I. So that

32:36

gave me momentum. But that's how I think, I go

32:38

and figure out what's those differences are. So when I

32:40

trained people, you know what I did? I

32:42

didn't let them shoot the gun until they'd handled the

32:45

gun over and over again with no bullets, nothing perfectly,

32:47

exactly the other guys. And the first time they shot

32:49

the gun, I literally put the target three feet in

32:51

front of them. Boom, right through the

32:53

center, boom, boom, right through the center. Hey, this is

32:55

cool shit. And then took it 10 feet and then

32:57

20. And then by the time

32:59

we got it to 50 feet and more, I

33:01

mean, these guys were performing at incredible level. So

33:03

it's these micro things. When somebody's in a tough

33:06

place, might never been there before,

33:08

then the work takes more work, right? But I

33:10

love both. And I love doing the one-on-ones that

33:12

I get to do with amazing

33:14

people and challenge people. And I love being able to do

33:16

crowds of 20 and 30 and

33:19

40,000 people, which we did. I'm doing a seminar

33:21

in a few weeks. Again, I did it last year for a

33:23

million and a half people for six days. Billy

33:26

got me into it. You talk about the virtual one, right?

33:28

Yeah, it was the virtual one. Really

33:30

fucking early in the morning. Wish it was, wish

33:32

it wasn't. I told Billy, I'd go, I'll meet

33:34

you at the end. And I'll turn that on.

33:37

I was the lukewarm guy at that time. Faith,

33:40

I want to circle to faith. I

33:43

think that we're living in a time right now where

33:45

people are starting to lack faith, right? And

33:48

I feel like faith is like the foundation. And

33:51

if you don't have a foundation, regardless of where you're

33:53

building, it's always rocky. What's

33:55

your thoughts on faith and how does a man

33:57

build his faith? to

34:00

build it, you have to understand you were born with it. I'm

34:02

not talking about your religion, I'm talking about your faith. We

34:05

both share, you know, we're both Christians, I know, but

34:07

I don't tell people what to believe. What I think

34:09

is important is that they find what is so for

34:12

them inside. They find their connection with God. It's like

34:14

trying to touch God, you know, the story of the

34:16

blind people touching God, and one touches the tail, and

34:18

they all have a different perception of what God is.

34:20

They're only getting a little piece of it, God's so

34:22

much more than that, right? But faith you were born

34:24

with, and I'll prove it to you. Think of all

34:26

the people that are watching or listening right now, our

34:28

friends out there, who get up every day

34:30

and get in a car and drive it. How

34:33

the hell do you get up, drive a car

34:35

65 miles an hour down

34:37

the street, there's nothing but a yellow line dividing you from

34:39

other people coming 65 miles an hour

34:41

at you, and you know, you know, every

34:43

single day in every city on earth, people

34:46

get killed because the person on their

34:48

side crosses that line. They fell asleep,

34:50

they're trying to text, they're upset,

34:52

they're drunk, happens every single day of your

34:54

life. How the hell do you do that?

34:57

There's only one way, things. Without

34:59

faith, you couldn't make that drive.

35:01

You would have to stay home and do nothing,

35:04

which is pretty much what we did during COVID.

35:06

People want faith and thought a little microbe was

35:08

going to destroy the planet, right? And it wasn't

35:10

true. We all found it wasn't true, unfortunately, the

35:12

hard way after all those shutdowns and all the

35:14

problems and so forth. So without faith, we don't

35:16

function. But faith is a muscle. And

35:18

the more you use a muscle, the stronger it gets. Faith

35:21

unused does not grow, it shrinks. Courage

35:23

unused does not grow, it shrinks.

35:26

Passion unexpressed does not grow, it

35:28

shrinks. So, but if you use

35:30

more of it, and you rely on it more,

35:32

you discover it's there. And what I found is,

35:34

I personally,

35:37

everyone is different in their approach. My wife is unbelievable.

35:39

She's one of the most incredible human beings I know.

35:41

She just has faith. I have

35:43

to earn it. It's just my thing. I don't

35:45

know the way I'm there. It's like my way

35:48

of earning it is over practice, over prepare, over

35:50

deliver, be so ready to go, and then step

35:52

into that room and then everything I prepared for,

35:54

for hours. My team will be

35:56

working with me till two in the morning designing stuff for,

35:58

you know, a day's event, for example. 12 hours

36:01

and I got mind maps and ideas and I

36:03

stand out in that audience and it all changes

36:05

because I feel the people I see what's needed

36:07

but because I've loaded my system so to speak

36:10

I feel like I've done my part and then God comes

36:12

through you. Amen. You prepared yourself.

36:14

That's my part. Now some people just have the

36:16

faith and it works, I wish I worked that way in some way but I

36:18

don't. That's so beautiful and honestly I

36:20

literally just spoke about this with Andrew T. I don't

36:22

know if you know who Andrew T. is. Yeah, of

36:24

course I do. I told him I'd go, God prepared

36:26

me for this. I did not prepare, like I prepared

36:28

as much as I can but when we were having

36:31

a conversation it was like I already knew where it

36:33

was going and I was so confident and I tell

36:35

people now I'm like I'm probably the most confident in

36:37

the room but I'm confident because I'm confident in my

36:39

Lord not me. Yeah, I'm confident and guided. When

36:42

someone stands up in those rooms and it's been 47 years, when

36:44

they stand up it's different

36:47

every time and when they stand up

36:49

it's already done and then I get to see how

36:51

it's done and then afterwards I look at what I

36:54

did and figure it out so I could do it

36:56

again or teach other people to do it. I figure

36:58

out the patterns but that's really the process. But I

37:00

want you to know the way I am, I don't

37:02

go preach to people about their religion at all. I

37:05

tell people whatever you believe I help you practice

37:07

it because you won't be happy otherwise you won't

37:09

be fulfilled and I also believe that somebody thinks

37:11

that there is no God, there isn't anything greater

37:14

in the universe than yourself. It's

37:16

a little bit egotistical and a little bit

37:18

silly. It's like saying Webster's dictionary is the

37:20

result of an explosion in a print factory.

37:22

It all came together just perfectly. So I

37:24

think if you can do your part and

37:27

you can work your tail off and you can over deliver

37:30

then something magical happens, grace. Some people

37:32

call it luck, grace, God,

37:34

the universe, whatever you want to do. But my

37:36

personal belief is it's really hard to be fulfilled

37:38

without that. But I don't ever do that. I

37:41

decided not to become a minister of sorts because

37:43

I wanted to reach people that

37:46

weren't being reached. I didn't want

37:48

to talk to people that are already there. I want to reach

37:50

people that they see me, they experience

37:52

it, they feel how much real love and care

37:54

is there and then they

37:56

might ask me what I believe in that area. Well remember,

37:58

we're going to be there. I'm not here to do

38:00

that. I explain to people all the time. I'm not

38:03

a preacher. I'm a man who fears God and loves

38:05

to talk about it. That's beautiful. So

38:08

the thought behind it is if Jesus came

38:10

down and said, hey, preach, the number one thing you would say is

38:12

don't use your mouth. Use your actions. I agree. Because

38:15

people could talk all day. That's right. And a lot

38:18

of people that talk about Jesus aren't moving the way

38:20

Jesus wants to be moving. That's right. So

38:23

I'm very proud of the way you're moving. Not that you need my. I

38:25

could go to bed now that Jordan's

38:27

proud of it. I feel

38:29

so much better. But before

38:31

we go. But I always tell people you can know who

38:33

I am. You don't have to see how my lips move.

38:35

You can tell my feet and my hands and my body

38:37

has moved for 47 years. It's

38:39

real clear who the hell I am and what I really stand

38:41

for and what I really deliver. And I

38:44

think that's the greatest message any of us can have

38:46

because anybody can talk a good game. And the most

38:48

disgusting thing to me in the world is all the

38:50

virtual signaling that you see in social media where people

38:52

don't even know the whole story of what's going on

38:54

in some part of the world. And they present how

38:56

great they are because they're supportive of something. That

38:58

is annoying. What are you going to do? Do

39:00

something. Don't just talk about or try to present

39:02

yourself. Well, they're adding to the problem. If

39:05

you don't actually have a solution, you're talking about it. You're starting

39:07

the fire. If

39:09

you'd like a lot of people would get mad at me.

39:11

Why aren't you speaking up about this? Because I don't know

39:13

about it. I think that's fair. That's intelligent. I

39:15

don't know about it. How am I going to speak

39:17

about it? What if I'm talking about talking my ass

39:19

and I go in the wrong direction and then I

39:21

convince other people to go in the wrong direction? We're

39:23

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40:29

was interviewing a former

40:31

UK prime minister and

40:33

and I had him with this group and

40:36

it was right around the time that Brexit was coming And

40:39

sure enough some people asked the question somebody asked the question and

40:41

he gave his answer what he thought about that And the person

40:43

says well, I think you're completely wrong. I don't think you know

40:45

what you're talking about at all He goes

40:47

well, I was prime minister for eight years, right Tony

40:50

Blair And I go you're a

40:52

horror criminal and it's like we oversimplify

40:55

Everything in a complex world and we live in

40:57

the world today that if we've been on a

40:59

plane we think we can fly it We're not

41:01

all equal in our skills We can become equal

41:03

in our skills if you want to put the

41:05

time and the energy and the effort into it

41:07

But we live in a world now where it's

41:09

all about instantaneous fulfillment and it's not real. It's

41:11

not really fulfillment It's positioning and positioning makes you

41:13

feel empty in the end. You don't feel strong

41:15

you feel fearful That's what this whole imposter syndrome

41:18

thing is is people like Trying

41:20

to be something that they're not look you can

41:22

build yourself into anything you want to become You

41:25

know our creator give us this thing

41:27

called choice And you can make new

41:29

choices and you can take a new direction right now today

41:31

You don't like your life changing you don't like your business

41:33

change You don't like your relationship change you first because if

41:35

you just change it You'll have the same problem again because

41:37

you're part of a more right, you know

41:39

I can find answers change anybody can change it As

41:42

long as you stop making up stories and you

41:44

stop coming up with all the excuses because you're

41:47

just fearful Fearful everybody else fear

41:49

that's why faith is so powerful faith is the

41:51

only thing that can get you out of fear

41:53

You're scared, but you do it anyway. That's what

41:55

courage is. It doesn't take courage if you're not

41:58

scared and most of them that

42:00

we develop spiritual muscles, emotional muscles,

42:03

faith, courage, determination, all those, they come because you

42:05

did it not because you felt like it, you

42:07

did it because you knew it was going to

42:09

serve something more than you, or you knew it

42:11

was going to serve you as well. There's

42:14

two things, faith, that there's two stories that I hit

42:16

in my head. I want to share here because I

42:18

know there's going to be a lot of people watching

42:20

this, and the two things that I always rely on

42:22

when it comes to faith, because sometimes you have to

42:24

remind yourself that faith. Even when you see a man

42:26

who's like, man, that guy has a lot of faith,

42:28

trust me, the devil has put him to the test

42:30

to have that faith. There was this

42:32

one, an amazing speaker, and he said,

42:34

God will give you the vision at the end, but

42:37

he won't tell you how to get there because you

42:39

need faith to get there. I

42:41

thought that was really beautiful. At the time in

42:43

the scripture, there was a woman that

42:45

was in the crowd, and Jesus was walking. At

42:48

the time Jesus was walking and he was healing, he was a very famous

42:50

man. Some people wanted to talk to him, some people didn't. This

42:54

woman, this woman who was ill, she just says,

42:56

I'm not going to bother him, but I know

42:58

if I just touch his cloth, his clothes, that

43:00

I'll be healed. She

43:03

touches him, and instantaneously

43:05

she was healed, she felt it, and

43:08

Jesus turns around and he goes, who touched me? Who

43:11

touched me? Obviously he knows who touched her.

43:13

He goes, who touched me? I felt power leave me. She

43:17

got scared. She goes, it was me. I just

43:19

knew that if I touched you, that I would

43:21

be healed. He said, daughter, it was your faith

43:23

that healed you. I

43:27

circled with that because the thing that

43:29

rang with me, man, was a lot of

43:31

people always asked me, when you talk to a man who

43:33

doesn't want to know God, the first thing he brings up

43:35

is the things that, why would this happen if there's a

43:38

God? I think

43:40

that everybody has the same tools. Some

43:43

people that have bad intentions have better

43:45

faith than you, so they could get there quicker

43:47

than you. I

43:50

always try to tell people, man,

43:52

don't run away from faith. Do not run

43:54

away from faith. In

43:56

this world, it's either you're contributing or you're going to

43:58

be a part of it. somebody else's

44:00

contribute. It's true. Faith

44:03

without works is dead too. We got to do our part. That's

44:06

the hard work. They don't have faith but they aren't doing anything. It's

44:10

like hope. Hope is a good first step and hope

44:12

is not enough. You got to

44:14

get yourself an action. You got to do something.

44:16

You got to learn. You got to grow. Some

44:19

people call fail, I call learning. You got to

44:21

learn. Every time you don't

44:23

succeed and you learn something, you get better

44:25

if you keep moving forward. Even

44:28

your human body is this. I wrote a whole book

44:30

called Life Force and I interviewed 150 of

44:32

the best scientists, regenerative

44:35

doctors, Nobel laureates about these incredible

44:37

breakthroughs like stem cells and things

44:39

that are occurring. One

44:42

of the things I ended up doing a whole

44:44

chapter on was understanding placebos because placebos are amazing.

44:46

You can take any problem a human being has

44:48

and give them a placebo and a percentage of

44:50

them get well. I mean, physically well. You know

44:52

you changed my life when you first told me

44:54

that. No, I didn't know that. When you told

44:56

me you took 10 people in a room that

44:58

had depression and you got them

45:01

into the gym, eight

45:03

of them didn't have depression anymore. I was secretly

45:05

depressed when you told me that. I didn't

45:07

know that. I didn't know that either. Changing

45:10

your biochemistry, people try to do through drugs

45:12

and it doesn't work. SSRIs,

45:14

Prozac, Zoloft, all these things. There was

45:17

a cover of Newsweek a year ago

45:19

in 2022, almost two years

45:21

ago, saying all the metastudies say they

45:23

don't work but we keep selling them. This is so

45:25

crazy. We did this study

45:27

where during COVID we had Stanford

45:30

come to me and they had two other professors

45:32

that went through one of my programs called Date

45:34

with Testing, a six-day program, a real deep immersion.

45:37

They said they both had clinically depressed, came out

45:39

not depressed. They were like, do you need data

45:41

on the people you've worked with? I said, well,

45:43

I got millions of clients. They said, no, but

45:45

like scientific data. I said, no. I

45:47

said, you want to do a study? Let's do a study. They said,

45:49

we'd love to. I said, before we

45:51

do it, tell me how does this

45:53

work normally? Meaning when people

45:55

go for traditional treatment, how many get well?

45:58

And they said, if you go across the metastudy, when they do

46:00

like a hundred different studies and see what they have in

46:02

common, the average is 60% don't improve

46:04

at all. That's with drugs

46:07

and therapy. 40% improve, but on average

46:09

they improve 50%, they're half

46:11

as depressed. Most of them stay on those drugs for the

46:13

rest of their life, at least a decade, and

46:15

they don't work. All they do is numb you. They don't take

46:18

care of the real problem, right? So I said, I think you

46:20

can do that with a placebo because by the way, with the

46:22

placebo, the more intense the

46:24

placebo, the greater the reaction. Meaning we

46:27

can give you an amphetamine to speed

46:29

your body up, give it as a

46:31

blue pill and tell you it's a barbiturate and

46:33

your body will slow down. It doesn't

46:36

just heal your body, it'll overcome

46:38

a drug in your body. But if we

46:40

really want a powerful injection, powerful thing, the

46:42

bigger the capsule, the greater the response, if

46:45

it's an injection, they get even bigger results. And

46:47

the most powerful results of all was fake surgeries

46:50

because, I mean, I've shared this with you when we

46:52

talked about that book, but in,

46:54

you know, what is it? Microscopic

46:56

surgery for the knees, what's it called? I'm

46:58

going to get them named. Ophthaloscopic, thank you.

47:01

Ophthaloscopic surgery, they did a study, they

47:03

were doing this for all the veterans, and

47:05

they did fake surgeries on a percentage of

47:07

them. Well, they literally put them out, cut

47:10

them, and did nothing, put it

47:12

back together. The results after a year and a

47:14

half was that people had no surgery improved more

47:16

than the people had the surgery, so they stopped

47:18

funding it. Because of surgery, now you really expect

47:20

a result, right, to make things happen. But anyway,

47:22

with Stanford, I said, let's do the study. I

47:24

said, what's the best result you've ever gotten in

47:27

getting rid of depression? Because this is the middle

47:29

of COVID when this is happening, and people are,

47:31

you know, more suicides at the

47:33

time, more overdoses, you know how bad it was then,

47:35

people are freaked out at home. And

47:37

so I said, what's the best? They

47:39

said the best was five years ago at Johns Hopkins.

47:41

They gave people for a month psilocybin.

47:44

So they gave them magic mushrooms for

47:46

a month and cognitive therapy for

47:48

a month. I said, well, after that, you

47:50

better be changed in some way, right? And the

47:53

guy said, it was amazing, it was the greatest

47:55

result in the history of psychiatry. Six weeks after

47:57

this month's worth of treatment, 54. percent

48:00

of the people had no symptoms whatsoever. It's like

48:02

unbelievable. I said, I think we can beat that.

48:04

We'll see. Right. So I said, you set up

48:06

the study. They did the same type of study,

48:08

no drugs, obviously, and just the six day seminar.

48:11

And what do we do? We get

48:13

people to rewire how they perceive

48:15

the world. In other words, whether

48:18

your life is terrible, shitty, great,

48:20

magnificent, has nothing to do with

48:22

your life. It has to do with what you focus on.

48:25

Right now, there are a million things that you could be pissed

48:27

off about in the world if you wanted to be, or your

48:29

life, or worried about. There's a million things you could be happy

48:31

about too. What's wrong is always

48:33

available, so is what's right. So when you

48:35

shift your belief systems consciously, and

48:38

you decide what you want to value, and you

48:40

align your behavior values, you have a different life.

48:42

So these people go through this process, and

48:44

the results were so profound that they

48:46

were afraid they were going to get canceled if they

48:49

published it. So they put it, blacklisted it, meaning they

48:51

didn't know who it was, and they sent the details

48:53

out to three different organizations, came back with the same

48:55

result. 100% of the people after six

48:57

weeks who went through my program for six days,

48:59

not one had any sense of clinical depression. 17%

49:02

of the people they put in had

49:04

suicidal ideation, constantly thinking of suicide.

49:07

Not a single person did it. They followed up 11 months

49:09

later, they were going to do 12 months, but COVID people

49:11

were coming back to work and so

49:14

forth. So they had all the statistics on

49:16

the general population, so they did an 11-month

49:18

study. Nobody depressed anymore, but more importantly, their

49:20

negative emotions had dropped 72%, their positive emotions

49:22

had gone up 51%. Now they're doing a

49:26

one-year study right now on engagement.

49:30

In a business, the more engaged your

49:32

employees are, the more successful the business

49:34

is, the more profitable it is. And they

49:36

look at engagement, disengagement, and active disengagement. Well,

49:40

disengagement is somebody that's quiet quitting is what we call

49:42

it now. They're trying to do the least possible. Active

49:44

disengagement is loud quitting. They're pissed off and they're trying

49:47

to hurt the company but still get

49:49

paid for a period of time until they're

49:51

gone. And during COVID, for those four years, we

49:53

had the lowest level of engagement in history and

49:56

the highest level of active disengagement, people angry.

49:58

Like you see people planes now, so

50:01

mean, and restaurants and things like that. They

50:03

were pushed down so long now they've got

50:05

this agitated state still what's going on. But

50:07

anyway, the bottom line is it's a one-year

50:09

study. Usually these are one month, three month

50:11

studies, 30 or 40 people, 750 people

50:14

for a year. It just completed. I

50:16

only saw the six month mark. I'm gonna see the

50:18

other but they said it's incredible. The

50:20

people literally made up their engagement completely

50:22

transformed, made up for four years and

50:24

then some improved. And then for the

50:27

11 or six months I saw it

50:29

afterwards. Every month it got better and I never saw them again

50:31

because they have a different psyche. So there's

50:33

no question, this is published in the Journal of

50:35

Psychiatry, the first study I told you about. Not

50:38

one phone call from anybody. And people still sell

50:40

those drugs because it's like we're so trained to

50:42

be a certain way. But for people that are

50:44

hungry and people want a solution, there are many.

50:46

I'm not the only one but there are many

50:49

that actually work and all you have to do

50:51

is find there isn't a problem that we can't

50:53

solve. Every problem that mankind has created, mankind can

50:55

solve. And we're all part of man or humankind,

50:57

man or woman, it doesn't matter. Yep. I

51:00

recently and correct me if I'm wrong because I feel like you

51:03

would know this. There

51:05

was things that I had to practice. When I was

51:07

depressed, I was hanging around with people I should have

51:09

been hanging out with. I had to retrain my brain

51:11

into behaving. And it was it was kind of like

51:13

I was a psychopath. If I was angry because when

51:15

I was depressed I was angry. So say somebody was

51:17

walking by and he pissed me off. I'll say something

51:20

negative about him in my head but then I made

51:22

myself say three nice things about him in my head.

51:24

Because I was like truly it was my fear of

51:26

God, right? I didn't want God to make me look

51:28

at me and I mean I didn't want him to

51:30

look at me looking at another son of his and

51:32

I'm just talking trash and then still asking him to

51:34

come help me. And then

51:37

when I was getting myself out of it I learned and I

51:39

want to know if this is right but

51:41

your brain can't be depressed and grateful at

51:43

the same time. That's what you talked about

51:45

before exactly. I have a process to show

51:47

people the two emotions that mess up your

51:49

relationships, that mess up your life, that mess

51:51

up your career, your business, is

51:53

fear and anger, right? Those two extremes.

51:56

And when you're grateful, simplistic as that

51:59

sounds. when I say grateful, I don't mean

52:01

intellectually grateful. I mean, you really feel it. I have a process

52:03

I do every day for that that I teach people to do

52:05

for 10 minutes. And when you're

52:07

really grateful, you can't be grateful and fearful

52:09

simultaneously. You can't be angry and grateful simultaneously.

52:12

So that's the power of that. One emotion

52:14

is really powerful to rid or get it

52:16

out of your body. And what you did

52:18

perfectly was you caught yourself and broke the

52:21

pattern. It was a habit and

52:23

you caught yourself, said, no, I'm gonna do this.

52:25

And you did three new good things. Broke it,

52:27

did it again, three new things. Now you had

52:29

strong enough reasons to do it because yours is,

52:31

I gotta do this for God. Not everybody has

52:33

that belief system, but they might do it for

52:35

their child. They might do it for

52:37

their husband or wife. Most of us, I think one of

52:39

the most beautiful things about human beings, what

52:41

makes us gorgeous as beings is

52:43

that we'll do more for others than we'll even

52:46

do for ourselves. And as somebody

52:48

who loves, somebody who care about, whether it be

52:50

your kid, whether it be somebody else. And so

52:52

sometimes that's what's needed. But you need leverage, you

52:54

have leverage, something that makes change a must. And

52:57

then you have to rewire yourself. The reason

52:59

these people lasted by the way, they followed

53:01

me, Stanford had a group that followed me

53:03

for three years prior and they measured my

53:05

body when I'm in these audiences, 10, 15,

53:07

20,000 people for

53:09

12 hours a day, four days in a row, seven days in

53:11

a row in these stadiums. And they wanted to

53:13

see what my body did. So I found

53:16

all these interesting statistics like, I

53:18

jump a thousand times on an average day, one

53:20

of those days and I weigh 290 pounds. So

53:23

every time I come down, it's four times your

53:25

body weight. So imagine a thousand pounds, a thousand

53:27

times in a day. And I've been doing that

53:29

for 47 years. How's your knees? My

53:32

knees are actually great. My bones though are

53:34

like, they did my bone density. They go,

53:36

these are humans, these are ultra athletes. This

53:38

is something we've never seen before. Gorilla called

53:40

you, right? Cause the demands

53:42

were so intense, but also, you know, if you've

53:44

ever been running with a friend and

53:47

you can't speak anymore, that's cause the

53:49

lactic acid has gotten to about a

53:51

four. I'm an 18 and still speaking.

53:54

I have the lean body mass of NFL

53:56

Defensive lineman, right? So You go through all this stuff and

53:58

what I do. The most powerful thing

54:01

was we saw that every time I go

54:03

on stage there's this thing they call when

54:05

they do these measurements on like the Tom

54:07

Brady's of the World are. They did am

54:09

on ninth of Hockey teams that won over

54:12

again like the Tampa Bay Lightning team that

54:14

come from mine and when they wanted to

54:16

see what happens biochemically and still be discover

54:18

something. Saw a guy like Tom Brady is

54:21

down by ten points of the Fourth Quarter

54:23

Superbowl. He wins How on earth He has

54:25

a surge of testosterone which makes you focused,

54:27

it puts you in the zone and you

54:29

also. In here is going on. you

54:32

remember every detail when you have

54:34

enough testosterone, but usually you also

54:36

get cortisol that's the stress hormone

54:38

simultaneously in this championship physiology use

54:40

of his explosion of this driving

54:42

testosterone and a course or drops

54:44

off the cliffs all you get

54:46

his maximum output stuff a guarantee

54:48

you can win but it maximizes

54:50

your possibilities are moving at a

54:52

different. Place. A

54:54

Dick. Holy different biochemical psychological face facts and

54:56

so I do that every time A gun

54:58

safety follow me to three and a half

55:00

years and and it burned eleven thousand three

55:02

hundred calories given idea one day on states

55:04

to reach Can believe his father did all

55:06

this. suspect that this happens every time a

55:08

your idols and on the state or with

55:10

up into the top of his third level

55:12

of stadium and so forth on I'm always

55:14

in the room you never woman a strikes

55:16

but was interesting was then they started measuring

55:18

my audience. And. That's how

55:20

they can understand why these changes have lasted of

55:23

ago houses last the just from once as are

55:25

you feeding us a look. At what

55:27

we feed off each other they did it when

55:29

my live audience mm when I started going digital

55:32

seminars where people like fifty countries they went to

55:34

fifteen countries and while we're doing the seminars they

55:36

do the same thing to me I've or this

55:38

device that measured married or ability and so forth.

55:41

The came and took my so live and see

55:43

what's happening my hormones took my blood they did

55:45

the same thing with these people and guess what

55:47

they saw it looks like a song like everybody's

55:49

different and then all the sudden it begins and

55:52

as I start searching up the audience is biochemistry

55:54

matches mind the cortisol drops off the test round

55:56

process runs. Through here and that's mighty Storm

55:58

through the fire has. That's why, like a

56:00

bonus you were. We were nine eleven. Any person

56:03

around the world, even Mount Americans, can tell you

56:05

where they were, what they saw the moment they

56:07

sought. Ask you where you won

56:09

eleven? You have no clue because you didn't have

56:11

the surge about energy, that emotion, and those biochemical

56:13

changes. So that's why this last, and that's why

56:16

we're So it's when you catch yourself and rewire

56:18

yourself. Yes, you're doing something behaviorally, but you also

56:20

making biochemical changes when you do it. and if

56:22

you do it over and over again, it just

56:25

becomes the new habit than the way of being

56:27

him. And you have to work at. Night

56:29

you just have a new quality of life. For.

56:32

Colonel. A Lily I told

56:34

ya has sit here and students say

56:36

a sob either is something I wrote.

56:38

I want to read it verbatim. from

56:40

what are you sad because I want

56:43

to top And and Ninety ninety One

56:45

you are Wrote the book awakened. The

56:47

Giant within has thirty One Well, and

56:49

there was this one thing that caught

56:51

my heart and had to write this

56:53

because I really pray that this sits

56:55

with a lot of people in our

56:57

generation because Og also explain why it's

56:59

the Niagara Syndrome. Or yes, they jump

57:01

into a lake of life not knowing.

57:03

Where they're gonna end up. And. They get

57:05

caught in the current, the current events,

57:08

the current fears, the current challenges. They

57:10

get directed by their environment and not

57:12

their values. The

57:15

the time when you wrote that the current

57:17

was strong. but now because a social media

57:19

the current is raging. agree with you. How

57:23

could you explain this to

57:25

children that are being risen

57:27

not by their parents, but

57:30

by tablets, by I phones,

57:32

by social media on. How

57:35

do we get some to not jump

57:37

and yet without knowing their values? And

57:39

then when we come from a home

57:41

that doesn't have a leading father that

57:43

doesn't demonstrate good values, how does a

57:45

man even find good? Sally's. Well.

57:49

When. I was. nineteen

57:51

or twenty i just learned some of

57:53

these skills skills i started to myself

57:55

i can really produce lasting change in

57:57

the first thing i thought was and

57:59

how all these people coming to these little events back then,

58:01

there were 50, 100 people, 150 people. But

58:05

I wanna help somebody one-on-one, I wanna mentor

58:08

somebody. So I went there, in Chino Prison

58:10

System in California, they had a thing called

58:12

the M2 program, match two people. And

58:14

so I got matched with this guy that was a murderer. And

58:17

I came in and met with him twice a month,

58:20

like clockwork, and he

58:22

didn't have any of those values, I helped him discover

58:25

them. When I say didn't have them, we

58:27

all have values. There's something distinct in the

58:29

human creature that knows right from wrong, regardless

58:31

of how you've been conditioned. You know, your

58:33

conditioning can cover it up. But

58:35

at a core level, we know what's important.

58:38

It's kind of wired into so we wouldn't

58:40

survive as a species. It's why we succeed,

58:42

we succeed, not because of one individual, we

58:44

succeed because we create communities that

58:46

can solve any problem. One person can't solve a lot of

58:48

problems, but a group of people can. So

58:50

anyway, I worked in that environment, and

58:52

I got to see that within a

58:54

few months, I got to change this

58:56

physiology, because that's what I start with. Start with the body

58:58

and then you'll get the mind, right? What do you explain this, if

59:00

you don't mind me asking? Was he

59:02

out of shape? Was he not? No,

59:05

he's in prison and he's doing nothing,

59:07

but being rageful, angry. But was he

59:09

like that before prison? Yes. Okay.

59:12

But in prison, it's magnified, as you can imagine. So you

59:14

absolutely have to start first with your body. I start with

59:16

the body, I think it's the fastest way to shift. There's

59:18

lots of ways, sometimes I start with other ways, but you

59:20

just think about it. If someone is sitting here like this,

59:24

and they're talking like this, and they make

59:26

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people how to make changes quickly, but then to make

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it lock in, you need rituals, right?

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You're gonna have lots of goals, but

1:00:50

goals don't meet squats, like New Year's. People have

1:00:52

set a New Year's resolution and 91% of people

1:00:54

never even get close to covering it because

1:00:57

they have this thing they want or they have no

1:00:59

plan or they have a little crappy plan, but they

1:01:01

don't have rituals, like things you're gonna do every day

1:01:03

that make it automatic, like the ones you're creating. Like,

1:01:05

if I do that, I'm gonna do this instead. You

1:01:07

do that, and after a while, you don't have to

1:01:09

think about the ritual, it takes over. It'll start to

1:01:11

happen automatically for you, right? So when

1:01:13

I look at these situations like working with these people,

1:01:16

I looked at it and said, okay, anyone

1:01:18

can get those values. They have to be awakened. I

1:01:20

start with a body, and so all of a sudden,

1:01:23

he started running, and pretty soon, he's running two and

1:01:25

three miles in a day, doing all these pushups, and

1:01:27

all of a sudden, he's owning himself. He feels in

1:01:29

control of his body. Why don't you take control of

1:01:31

one part of yourself with discipline? I always tell people,

1:01:34

my original teacher, Jim Rohn, you say discipline weighs ounces,

1:01:36

regret weighs tons. Like, if you

1:01:38

want to have a great life, you gotta learn to

1:01:40

discipline yourself, and if you discipline yourself in one area,

1:01:43

it's amazing, you'll start disciplining yourself in others, and

1:01:45

discipline sounds like a negative word, but what it

1:01:47

really means is taking back control, and

1:01:50

so I watched that, then I started feeding him books to

1:01:52

read, as a man thinks it, so he started to feel

1:01:54

his thoughts are controlling and so forth, and by the time

1:01:56

he got out, he got out eight

1:01:58

years later. different human being,

1:02:00

a loving human being, control of his life, a

1:02:02

peaceful human being. So the answer to your question

1:02:05

is, it's great to have a father, but unfortunately,

1:02:07

many of us, I had four different ones, they

1:02:09

didn't stick around. Many of us didn't have that

1:02:11

strong father, but we can find that in a

1:02:13

mentor. And we're in a world

1:02:15

today where if you're conscious, you can go

1:02:17

find those mentors because those people are online

1:02:19

or you can join an organization or something

1:02:21

of that nature. So the answer to your

1:02:23

question on a simplistic level is, yes, it's

1:02:25

great to have a father, but not all

1:02:27

fathers are there, not all fathers are great

1:02:29

fathers. But there's always someone out there

1:02:31

that if you can show you're out for something

1:02:34

more than yourself, and you're trying

1:02:36

to accomplish something, somebody will move in your direction.

1:02:38

That's the grace of life. But you have to

1:02:40

first show your committed, you got to show you're

1:02:42

going to do something in my opinion, that to

1:02:44

me is what it takes. And social media, you're

1:02:47

never going to teach these kids not

1:02:49

to do these things, they're going to have

1:02:51

to experience things, unfortunately, that are painful, what

1:02:53

you really need is get to the parents.

1:02:55

That's what really matters. But there's so many

1:02:57

absent parents, they because they're so stressed out,

1:02:59

they don't have to manage their own states.

1:03:01

So it's not an easy thing. I don't

1:03:03

pretend there is. But I think that's why

1:03:05

communities, churches, environments where people are conscious about

1:03:08

wanting to support one another are so valuable, and

1:03:10

you can find it in many different ways, but

1:03:12

you have to pursue it. God

1:03:16

moves to those that are willing to do their

1:03:18

part. I mean, if they thought without action is

1:03:20

nothing, right? So it's like, you've got to do

1:03:22

your part. You may not know everything. But if

1:03:24

you start taking a few steps, you'll get momentum,

1:03:27

you'll go on the journey we talked about, right,

1:03:29

you'll meet new people, you'll have some new mentors,

1:03:31

you'll face some new dragons, but then you'll learn

1:03:33

to slay them, you'll develop skills and abilities you

1:03:35

didn't know you had, you'll slay the dragon, and

1:03:38

you'll come home the hero of your own life.

1:03:40

And now you have gifts to give people because

1:03:42

you've earned it, because you've become someone, you weren't

1:03:44

just sitting around telling people your opinion or

1:03:46

virtual signaling. But look, the

1:03:49

pendulum always swings very far. And

1:03:51

then it swings back. We're swinging about as far

1:03:53

as I can imagine right now in our society,

1:03:56

probably going to go further than I even imagined. But

1:03:58

I think we're going to find balance. There's a lot of

1:04:00

young people coming back to God right now. And

1:04:03

the Z generation, they're like, it's amazing. People say

1:04:05

they don't care. The millennials had a little different

1:04:07

frame, not all of them, but some of them.

1:04:09

But the Z generation is having a different, I

1:04:12

think that's the other part of history

1:04:15

that's great. Like if you wanna

1:04:17

know history, I'm gonna give

1:04:19

it to you in four sentences. Good times create weak people.

1:04:23

Weak people create bad times.

1:04:26

Bad times create strong people and

1:04:28

strong people create great times. That's the

1:04:31

history of the world. It's a cycle that we go

1:04:33

through. And right now we're in the cycle where a

1:04:35

lot of people that are weak, silence

1:04:39

is violence, words are violence. Heard Chris Rockley,

1:04:41

they said, if you think words are violence,

1:04:43

no one has slapped the shit out of

1:04:46

you on national television. I'm like,

1:04:48

no words are not violence, right? And now

1:04:50

some people saying words are violence are saying,

1:04:52

oh yeah, somebody can chop off the heads

1:04:54

of children, rape women, and oh,

1:04:56

by the way, that's totally okay. I'm not saying what

1:04:58

anybody else has been okay, but that's totally okay. It's

1:05:01

justified. I mean, same people saying words are violence.

1:05:03

So we're in a weird position right now, but

1:05:06

that calls to people to the point where

1:05:08

they get humbled, because

1:05:11

they don't know what to do. And when you

1:05:13

get humbled, you tend to look for something beyond

1:05:15

yourself, something deeper in this world, call

1:05:17

it grace, call it God, call it universal

1:05:20

intelligence. I don't limit people to say, well, use

1:05:22

the words I would use. Everyone has their own

1:05:24

way of reaching that. I'm respectful of that. But

1:05:27

they gotta find it, or they're gonna feel

1:05:29

really empty inside. I

1:05:31

love the way you move. You show grace to everyone.

1:05:34

And I was just telling Billy, we

1:05:37

were talking about something personal, and the reason I overcame it

1:05:39

is because when I was reading the scripture, it

1:05:42

just dawned on me. I go, Jesus always

1:05:44

knew Judas was going to betray him, but

1:05:46

he always treated him like the other disciples. Yeah. There's

1:05:50

power in that. And then they come up

1:05:52

to him and they're like, you gotta pay taxes. And he's like,

1:05:54

I gotta pay taxes. Who's on

1:05:56

the coin? They go Caesar. I go and give to Caesar what

1:05:59

Caesar's and give to God. God and

1:06:02

but then he said something that's even more powerful after

1:06:04

that he says but those so we don't offend him

1:06:07

and I just pause it he goes but so

1:06:10

that we do not offend them and then he

1:06:12

went with them and I thought to myself I

1:06:14

go my God I go the only way I could

1:06:16

reach a man is by love it

1:06:18

is by love it is only love because if I looked

1:06:21

at you and I listen dude you're a dumb piece of

1:06:23

shit and I'll tell you why I guarantee

1:06:25

you that person is now out because he knows

1:06:27

that you don't love him and you don't care for

1:06:29

him but if I go hey Tony um you

1:06:32

know I think that I think you would

1:06:34

be more sincere and eager to listen because

1:06:36

you know it's coming from somebody who cares

1:06:38

about you I understandably

1:06:40

if I try to teach anybody that I work

1:06:42

with who works with people coaches

1:06:45

trainers therapists all those types

1:06:47

of people I said you know you can't influence somebody

1:06:49

if you're judging them I mean

1:06:51

it's possible but you're not gonna influence most people

1:06:53

by judge the only way can influence them is

1:06:55

for them to feel how much you sincerely care

1:06:57

and people don't trust that initially I remember I

1:06:59

have a friend right now that I've known for

1:07:02

about I don't know probably 30 years and

1:07:05

he that quote you get from one

1:07:07

of my books when I was like a week in the giant

1:07:09

within I think I was 30 years old and I wrote that

1:07:11

book and you were describing that opening to that event where I

1:07:13

was flying in the helicopter and I was worried

1:07:16

that people are gonna make to my event because there's all

1:07:18

this traffic you know forever as far as the eye could

1:07:20

see and it was my event it was like 15,000 people

1:07:22

and I blew my mind well he was in that

1:07:24

event so give you an idea and he's been

1:07:26

a friend for 30 years maybe 25 years where it's been and

1:07:29

he told he's told several people you know Tony won

1:07:32

me over he goes I got dragged there by somebody

1:07:34

I thought this is BS this is a bunch of

1:07:36

crap and I'm not jumping and doing this stuff and

1:07:38

in those days I wear a suit and tie it

1:07:40

was the style of those days so I'm on stage

1:07:43

and you could see the sweat just going down the

1:07:45

tide for some time holy fuck my shirt was soaked

1:07:47

I was sweating like crazy I was giving my soul

1:07:49

he said after he did that he goes I thought

1:07:51

to mess I could jump a few times that son

1:07:53

of a bitch can do that push that stuff so

1:07:56

I think you got to go first you

1:07:58

can't lecture people You got

1:08:00

to be an example, not like you're

1:08:02

perfect or some bullshit. Nobody is. But

1:08:05

where you're willing to see what isn't working and improve

1:08:07

it, and you're willing to constantly find a way to

1:08:09

be better. And if you do that, life's amazing. But

1:08:11

I think there's interesting thing about the Bible that I

1:08:14

don't know if you agree with or not, but I'll

1:08:16

share it with you from my perspective. One

1:08:18

of my sons, when he finally

1:08:21

found Christ, he... You know, a lot of

1:08:23

people, when they find God in whatever form they find God, they

1:08:25

believe that they have found the way and everyone

1:08:27

else should do it that way, right? And his

1:08:29

way was kind of hellfire and damnation at the

1:08:32

time, right? And I'm

1:08:34

cursing myself, right? So it's like, he's lecturing me.

1:08:36

He's just blowing my mind, right? So one day I was

1:08:38

in Fiji, I have a resort there and a time there,

1:08:40

and that's with my wife. And I was like, you know,

1:08:43

I'm not going to influence my son by talking

1:08:45

about this. I said, I

1:08:48

need to read the whole Bible from beginning to end.

1:08:50

I want to do it over the next four or five days. I want to go on

1:08:52

a fast, which is what I did. And I

1:08:54

fasted and read the entire Bible in five days. My

1:08:57

wife will tell you, no bullshit, read the whole thing,

1:08:59

cover to cover. And it's

1:09:01

quite a read. But when you read it... I

1:09:03

might say the best in the world. You sold

1:09:05

a lot of books, but my man Jesus Christ

1:09:07

is a little heavier than you, bro. I

1:09:10

read the Old Testament and the New Testament, right? So read

1:09:12

them both, right? The Old thing, right? And one thing struck me

1:09:14

that I thought was really interesting, and I went to my

1:09:16

son with this because he was so locked up and he's not

1:09:18

like that now. He's much more... It's like, I hate it. I

1:09:21

often tell people the worst thing about Christians sometimes

1:09:23

is Christians, you know? Christ

1:09:25

was not a Christian. You know, we've made this

1:09:27

whole thing up here. Like, this is how it

1:09:30

is, right? My son is becoming like that. I

1:09:32

don't want that. But at the same time... You're

1:09:34

so accurate with that, man. Like, when I was

1:09:36

speaking about Jesus, I made a joke to my

1:09:38

mom. I go, the only people that come at

1:09:40

me are Jesus lovers. Like, Muslims are like, I'm

1:09:42

so proud of you. Jewish people are like, I

1:09:44

respect you. Christians are like, nah. I'm

1:09:46

like, what? They all got their judgment. How it should be,

1:09:48

what should be, right? As if they

1:09:50

had the direct communication. So anyway, I went to

1:09:52

my son after I read this whole thing. And

1:09:55

I thought a lot about it. And I said, you know what? He

1:09:57

actually, I just read the whole Bible from cover to cover. He's like,

1:09:59

no. And my wife's there. She

1:10:01

goes, he did it day and night in Fiji,

1:10:04

five days, eat pineapple, watermelon, and drank water. That

1:10:06

was it. That was fast the entire time. I

1:10:09

says, it was a wild journey. I said, it was beautiful. I

1:10:12

said, then a couple of things, you know,

1:10:15

kind of came to me. I said, the

1:10:17

first thing that came to me is God seems

1:10:19

like a selfish bastard in the first half

1:10:21

of that book. I

1:10:24

said, he's mean, he's jealous,

1:10:26

he's spiteful. I

1:10:29

said, that's not my experience of God. And

1:10:31

maybe the second half of the Bible, right?

1:10:33

This estimate is like God is, it's not

1:10:35

just about one, it's everybody and everyone

1:10:37

can experience this joy and this love. And I

1:10:40

said, so I said, I got a question

1:10:42

for you. Because he was

1:10:44

like, this is what the Bible says. And rather

1:10:46

than saying, look, the Bible has been translated by

1:10:48

men, every group of Romans that may decide what

1:10:50

went in and what went out. And we found

1:10:53

missing pieces of the Bible, all that stuff. I

1:10:55

just simply said, do you

1:10:57

think God grows? He

1:11:00

looked at me and said, what are you saying?

1:11:02

Is this technique? I said, it's not a

1:11:04

technique. I said, it's a simple question. Because

1:11:06

I mean the first time in the Bible and God

1:11:08

seems very selfish and spiteful and

1:11:10

mean. And second part, totally completely

1:11:13

loving. So I said, everything in

1:11:15

the universe grows or dies. God

1:11:18

knows what's going to happen for, what's going to happen,

1:11:20

knows your thoughts. I said, I'll buy all that. But

1:11:22

my question is not that. He goes, well, then you're

1:11:24

saying it doesn't mean the same thing as the words.

1:11:26

I said, no, I just said, does God grow? He

1:11:31

really thought about it for a little bit. And

1:11:33

I said, cause my concern is your experience of

1:11:35

God is through a minister, which I think it's

1:11:37

a beautiful thing, but I'd love it if you'd

1:11:39

had a direct experience of God. And

1:11:42

that was what you're making judgments from rather than

1:11:44

what somebody else tells you. I'd love to have

1:11:46

you read that same Bible and see what your

1:11:48

experience it is rather than someone telling you what

1:11:50

it means to their filters. And

1:11:52

that's the only thing I wish I wish everybody's

1:11:54

experience of God, quite frankly, was as unique as

1:11:56

your signature. So instead of fighting over, you have

1:11:59

to have my signature. Everybody

1:12:01

wanted to have their own individual signature, their own

1:12:03

individual connection with God. That's the connection that I

1:12:05

personally experience in a way I perceive God. And

1:12:08

so that's why I don't try to make other people to be

1:12:10

a certain way, or my way is, or somebody else's way is.

1:12:13

I just want them to experience the joy

1:12:15

of knowing that they're not alone and that

1:12:17

they're made of something way more than their

1:12:19

intellect and their ego. I love that you

1:12:21

challenge your son in ways

1:12:23

that are uncomfortable, because you know there's a lot

1:12:25

of men that are like, I don't want my

1:12:27

son to get like this, I don't want to

1:12:30

get... and they spare the rod. You

1:12:32

get what I'm saying? Listen, the

1:12:35

reason I have my utmost respect for

1:12:37

God is because my father made me

1:12:39

respect him. And so I

1:12:41

had a way to look at my father. I'll give you

1:12:43

an example. People are

1:12:45

like, well wait, if God presents

1:12:47

himself, then okay, listen. Listen.

1:12:53

My father is an Assyrian

1:12:56

man that has flesh. Do

1:12:58

you know what that man would do to me? If

1:13:00

I was ever like, you come over here, and I need you,

1:13:03

come here. My dad would be like, me come here, me come

1:13:05

here. And then he would dismantle

1:13:08

me where I stand and

1:13:10

then reshape my mind to

1:13:12

know that there comes with respect. I

1:13:15

have to respect my father. I'm not going to make my

1:13:17

father get up so he could come to me. I'm going

1:13:19

to get up to go to my father. And

1:13:21

I really, really do feel the same way that we communicate

1:13:23

right here. You'll understand me

1:13:25

more if there's love. If you're not

1:13:27

coming and presenting yourself fully humbly and surrendering

1:13:30

yourself with love, I don't

1:13:32

think God's going to even want to talk to you. Well,

1:13:34

what if you're God, and you come here to this

1:13:36

incredible place you created called Planet Earth, and

1:13:39

you walk up to one of your creations and you

1:13:41

say, hey creation, this is so-and-so,

1:13:43

Mr. so-and-so. How are

1:13:45

you liking this thing I created for you? And the person says,

1:13:47

God, I'm glad you showed up because I got a bone to

1:13:49

pick with you. I mean, first of all, why do you make

1:13:51

it so effing hot all the time? I mean, you could have

1:13:54

made it 72 degrees year round

1:13:56

here. I mean, it's insane. And then you make

1:13:58

these stupid people that get it right. my

1:14:00

way and either feel whether I'm trying to accomplish. Why

1:14:02

wouldn't you make everybody nice and connected? And you make

1:14:04

these little red ass, these little red ass, they bite

1:14:06

my ass. I mean, why would you create such a

1:14:08

thing of your God? And

1:14:11

then God goes to one of his other creations and says,

1:14:13

how are you liking this place? And they say, oh God,

1:14:15

thank God you're here. I've always

1:14:17

wanted to thank you directly. This

1:14:19

is the most amazing paradise. It's so unbelievable. First

1:14:21

of all, you never get bored because you're always

1:14:23

changing the temperature. It's so amazing. You bring so

1:14:26

many people to challenge me to grow. And you

1:14:28

make these little red ass, man, these things

1:14:30

are courageous. They're one millionth by size, they

1:14:32

bite my ass. It's amazing. You know, now

1:14:34

the question is, if you were God, who

1:14:36

do you want to hang out with the

1:14:39

first person or the second one? Wow. So

1:14:41

I tell people say there is no God. I said, there's God just

1:14:43

bitching so much. I just want to hang out with you. I

1:14:49

got a Christian joke. There's a bunch

1:14:51

of scientists and they're like,

1:14:53

God, I don't know if you knew about AI,

1:14:55

but we figured it out, buddy. We don't need

1:14:57

you. In fact, we all smirked at each other.

1:14:59

Like we could create humans now. And God sits

1:15:01

back and goes, really? He goes, Oh yeah. Oh

1:15:04

yeah. He goes, look at show me. So they

1:15:06

look at each other knowing the old Testament. They

1:15:08

grabbed dirt with their hands and he goes, uh,

1:15:10

that's mine. Get your own. It

1:15:14

all comes from God. I, I, that, that joke always made

1:15:16

me laugh. I'm going to share with you. But

1:15:18

well, with my son, what interesting thing is to

1:15:20

his credit was, you know, it created an

1:15:22

opening cause it created a thought

1:15:24

that couldn't get out of his head. Does

1:15:26

God grow? Okay. Well then I want the

1:15:28

Bible to guide me, but I also need

1:15:30

to do my part and see everything's evolving.

1:15:32

But the core principles of love, they're

1:15:35

part of every religion. Truthfully, they're what

1:15:37

is the core truth. I neighbor, like myself,

1:15:40

lovely neighbor, like myself, right? Which by the

1:15:42

way, implies that you would actually love yourself,

1:15:44

not fake love, ego love, but

1:15:46

a depth of caring for yourself because you care

1:15:48

for yourself. You care for others when you're beating

1:15:50

yourself up all the time. Pretty soon you can't

1:15:53

handle it. Now you're in other people's faces because

1:15:55

you're so raw, you can't handle it anymore. So

1:15:57

I Just think there's, there's certain universal principles.

1:16:00

Bring lasting outfits and the most important voice

1:16:03

I believe besides love is Grace Because when

1:16:05

you grow everly girls or guys warm and

1:16:07

you don't grow you pay a big price

1:16:10

and will you do grow. You have something

1:16:12

to give and what makes people's life meaningful

1:16:14

is not what it would. Anybody can make

1:16:16

themselves feel good with very few things you

1:16:19

can food, alcohol, have sex with yourself for

1:16:21

the comfort of but it's never as good

1:16:23

by yourself. Now with love with love with

1:16:25

with connection. So when something great happens in

1:16:28

your life the person want to do is

1:16:30

share with somebody and that makes it more.

1:16:32

That's why we have relationships. So I just

1:16:35

think. You. Know Why Does the quality

1:16:37

relationships with cause of relationship with yourself, with your

1:16:39

creative, with your family, with your friends. That's the

1:16:41

quality of a person's life. Everything else is secondary

1:16:43

to that. I wrote something down and I've never

1:16:46

said a solid I want to say to you

1:16:48

and I want to see how you feel about

1:16:50

it and if is the correct way to go

1:16:52

that it's because I'm Shauna Be a Tony Why

1:16:54

don't have as good as I don't know? There's

1:16:57

a correct way for anything there's There's many ways

1:16:59

to get Places are some words joy A both

1:17:01

some that are easier summit succeed faster but I

1:17:03

don't have the right wrong mode within me. About.

1:17:06

How about something? Asks. Why?

1:17:10

But I would say that's exactly what

1:17:12

Tony with so. Ah,

1:17:16

I'm. Reading through comments and I was as gotta go

1:17:18

to I want you to challenge my heart on things

1:17:20

you want me to talk about so that way when

1:17:22

I see as I noted as a great amount of

1:17:24

people are wash my starts at eight a his figure

1:17:26

out to give me was the right like it How

1:17:29

do I figure this out and I'm enjoying this thought.

1:17:32

To. They'll feel like we live in and in an industry.

1:17:34

That in as generation where we have identity issues

1:17:36

and all shapes and forms and the one

1:17:38

identity issue that I see more than anything as

1:17:40

I don't know who I am, I don't

1:17:42

know what I want to become. I

1:17:44

don't know my passions are. I don't

1:17:47

know anything. About myself on.

1:17:50

And something. Came. To me

1:17:52

at or N N are I wanted it

1:17:54

bounces ideal for the this is my hypothesis.

1:17:58

maybe you don't know who you are because

1:18:00

you haven't revealed who your creator is. If

1:18:04

I broke my car and it's a Toyota, I'm not

1:18:06

taking it to Hyundai because the first thing they do

1:18:08

when they pop open the hood, they go, I didn't

1:18:10

create this. I don't know what's inside of this.

1:18:13

And I feel like the people that

1:18:16

I meet that know God know their purpose. And

1:18:18

there are some Christians that are like, hey, like

1:18:20

I still don't know. I know God. I love

1:18:22

God. And to me it's like, okay,

1:18:24

well, how much do you know God? Truly

1:18:27

how much do you know God? And

1:18:29

I really, really have came to the conclusion that if

1:18:31

you do not know who you are, you do not

1:18:33

know who created you. Because

1:18:35

once you find out who created you, the Bible verse

1:18:38

that hits me in the head right away is seek

1:18:40

first the kingdom and then the rest shall come.

1:18:43

What does that even mean? Well, I could tell you

1:18:45

from a man that I was in a place where I shouldn't be.

1:18:48

And I asked God, take my feet and place them

1:18:51

where you want them to be, not where I

1:18:53

want them to be. Because as

1:18:55

a child, I'll give you an example, how

1:18:57

my relationship in Hollywood was. This

1:18:59

is the best way that I could put it

1:19:01

in perspective. I'm a little kid playing

1:19:03

around at the playground and my father in heaven

1:19:06

brought me to this playground. He goes,

1:19:08

okay, go have fun with your friends. And I went and I'm having fun,

1:19:10

but I started acting like them and

1:19:12

I started playing like them. And he calls

1:19:14

me back and goes, hey, hey, hey, come here. What's up? Don't

1:19:17

do this. And I go, well, no, everybody's doing it. He goes, yeah, but

1:19:19

they're not part of our family. We

1:19:22

have respect. We have

1:19:24

different standards, different standards. And

1:19:26

I want to circle back to this right here. It's

1:19:31

easy to mix your standards with everyone

1:19:33

else's. And man, do

1:19:35

I see a lot of copy and paste out there. And

1:19:38

I think we're living in a day and age where

1:19:40

people are so caught up on what everybody else is

1:19:42

doing. They forget to reflect on what they're doing. Well,

1:19:46

it's, it's, you know, the

1:19:48

social media is out of control. What's

1:19:50

that thermos that costs like $45 that kids

1:19:52

now, if they don't have it, they get

1:19:54

hydroflask. What's it called? Hydroflask? No, it's

1:19:56

a different one. It's been around forever. I was just

1:19:58

reading about the other day. Are you talking about

1:20:00

the mug? Yes. I just read about it.

1:20:03

Like five women took it out. It was like the

1:20:05

company was broke. Yeah. It's been around since 1910 or

1:20:07

something like that. And

1:20:11

now these kids, they all want a $45 firmness

1:20:14

because they see everybody else in TikTok has and if

1:20:17

they don't, they get bullied. Oh, that's not really one

1:20:19

of those. That's how insane it is. But it's always

1:20:21

been insane. It's just more insane with social media. It's

1:20:23

magnified it. Yeah. And I just think, look, the

1:20:26

pathway to finding, quote,

1:20:28

your purpose, I think the biggest mistake is thinking

1:20:31

you have one purpose. We have

1:20:33

lots of purposes. We have different purposes in

1:20:35

each day. There might be an overriding purpose

1:20:37

to grow, to give, to contribute, to love,

1:20:39

whatever, to be an expression of God that

1:20:41

you'd be proud of, that God would be

1:20:43

proud of, whatever your belief is. But there's

1:20:45

so many purposes and people get caught up

1:20:47

in having to create some big purpose. You

1:20:49

know what my purpose is? Doubt. It's

1:20:52

really simple. Something I get calls every day of

1:20:54

my life and it's like, especially now because of

1:20:56

the stage of life I'm in and because I

1:20:58

have so many different skills and businesses and so

1:21:00

forth. Somebody's got a challenge in the business. Somebody's

1:21:03

got cancer. Somebody's got Alzheimer's. Somebody is worried about

1:21:05

something with their kid. And it's like,

1:21:07

I take great joy, even though I only have so

1:21:09

many hours in the day, if I can help them,

1:21:11

that's what I want to do. And it's like, I

1:21:13

don't need to make this grand. I used to have,

1:21:15

I'm going to help billions of people. I've done all

1:21:17

that. Millions of people. It's just be

1:21:19

helpful. To me, that's an expression of

1:21:21

love. It also doesn't have the ego

1:21:24

that I have all the answers. It's just, I can be

1:21:26

helpful. That means you're going to do your part too. That's

1:21:28

why I was told to be, I'm not your guru. And

1:21:30

people try to make me in a guru early days. I mean,

1:21:32

I'm not here. You're not broken. You don't need to be fixed.

1:21:35

But I can be helpful because I have some insights

1:21:37

because I focused on something for 47 years. You're

1:21:40

just like, you could teach. I don't

1:21:42

know squat about singing and sound very good. Hey

1:21:45

man, don't pick lessons from me. Or

1:21:48

music or whatever, right? I have my own enjoyment of it,

1:21:50

but I don't have those skillsets. So everybody,

1:21:52

I look at everybody in my life and I go,

1:21:56

I think this is why I get along with so many

1:21:58

different levels and qualities and types of people. in

1:22:00

countries. I can enter

1:22:02

a country because everybody I meet I believe, and this

1:22:04

is no bullshit, I believe they're superior to me. I

1:22:06

see you as superior to me in some way. I

1:22:08

don't know what it is yet till I meet the

1:22:10

person, and you might be superior to something

1:22:12

I don't want to be superior to, like feeling depressed, but you

1:22:14

might be better at it than I am. But you're going to

1:22:17

be better at something because you have different life experience. I

1:22:19

also, so it makes me respect you, it

1:22:21

makes me hold you here, whoever you are.

1:22:23

And people feel that. They feel respected, they feel

1:22:26

loved, they feel cared for. At the same time,

1:22:28

I'm no like wilting flower. I know

1:22:30

who the F-I-M. And I also know

1:22:32

I'm superior to every person I meet in some areas.

1:22:34

Not because I'm so superior, but because I have a

1:22:36

different set of life experiences, and I've worked at it

1:22:38

for 47 years, and every day said I got to

1:22:40

do it better. And so that

1:22:43

makes me feel equality with people. And

1:22:45

when you have that equality, then all that

1:22:48

other crap goes away, and you're not worried

1:22:50

about what everybody's thinking and doing. And some

1:22:52

of it, honestly, George, is just the experience

1:22:54

of living enough life.

1:22:56

Because, you know, there

1:22:58

are stages of life where you get to, where

1:23:00

you just finally say, I don't give a shit.

1:23:02

Like when you're in your 20s, you're kind of

1:23:05

trying to prove yourself to yourself or to other

1:23:07

people. Maybe your 30s, trying to figure things out.

1:23:09

Your 40s can be, look at seasons

1:23:11

of your life. Zero to 20, you know, you're, you

1:23:13

know, you might have

1:23:15

to go to work early like I did, or some families do, but

1:23:17

you're kind of without for it to some extent. Other people are teaching

1:23:19

you what to believe. 22 to 42, you're the soldier

1:23:22

of society. You go out and

1:23:24

say, they told me that crap, but I'm going to

1:23:26

find out what I believe. I'm going to test it.

1:23:28

I'm going to be president of the United States, a

1:23:31

billionaire, and have 150 relationships simultaneously, and everybody's going to

1:23:33

be happy. Then you go out and find

1:23:35

out relationships are more complex than that. And you're not

1:23:37

the president, you're not yet a billionaire. And so it

1:23:39

humbles you. And then you look to grow. Then you

1:23:41

go like 42, 43 to say 63, that range. If

1:23:43

you worked hard in the first two seasons,

1:23:47

if you planted in the spring and you took

1:23:50

care of it in the summer, you're going to

1:23:52

be reaping. You're going to be in a position

1:23:54

of impact, of power, of quality of life. You're

1:23:56

going to, if you're in business, you're going to

1:23:58

be successful at what you you've

1:24:00

learned and grown, you've been through all the ups and downs,

1:24:02

right? Doesn't mean you're done. And then,

1:24:04

you know, you get, say, 64 to 84 to 104 to

1:24:09

120 of the oldest human beings, somewhere in that

1:24:11

final season, then you're in a

1:24:13

mentor relationship. You've lived enough life, you don't need to

1:24:15

prove anything to anybody if they know who you are

1:24:18

great, they know who cares. Right, quite

1:24:20

frankly, do you want them to like you? If you're human,

1:24:22

do you like people? Yes, but it's

1:24:24

not your life in depth anymore. And

1:24:26

so you're not tied to that proving

1:24:28

to yourself or other people, you just

1:24:31

want to serve. And I

1:24:33

think not everybody gets there because not everybody

1:24:35

grows during all those seasons. But if you

1:24:37

really grow during those seasons, I want people

1:24:39

to know, you look at all the studies,

1:24:41

the most difficult time, most happy on time

1:24:43

for most people is 22 to 23 to 43

1:24:45

range. And

1:24:47

then the next, most, and the

1:24:49

starts to be enjoyable is in that 43, 63. If

1:24:53

you're healthy, the strongest time in life, the

1:24:55

happiest time for human beings is 64 to

1:24:57

about 84 if they stay healthy.

1:24:59

Because you know what matters most, it's

1:25:01

relationships. You know who you are, you

1:25:03

know what you believe. You're just,

1:25:06

you're not being pushed around by the wind, you're not

1:25:08

trying to prove anything. And I wish

1:25:10

more people knew the pathway that's really real so that

1:25:12

when they're in the middle of that crap, they could

1:25:14

still have a compelling future. Because I think that's what's

1:25:16

missing. When you talk about depression, our

1:25:19

society is in a winter season. This

1:25:22

happens about every 20 years we go

1:25:24

through a season. When it's springtime, everybody's

1:25:26

optimistic, everything's going great, if

1:25:29

you know your 20s, pardon me? The

1:25:31

roaring flies. Oh, that's even more like fall. Springtime

1:25:33

would be more like after World War II. After

1:25:36

a winter, a really rough time, people

1:25:38

wanted to have babies that had sex like crazy.

1:25:40

They wanted to, they didn't want to be part

1:25:42

of war. They wanted to build and create. We

1:25:44

have this society that's very optimistic. Then

1:25:46

you go through the 70s and 80s after 20 years of that, from

1:25:50

say 45 to around the time John F. Kennedy

1:25:52

got killed. Now it's a summertime, it's

1:25:55

hot, it's difficult. There's fighting usually historically

1:25:57

between older and younger generations during that

1:25:59

time. They don't go to war. I don't want

1:26:01

to go to war. Then you make it

1:26:03

through, exhaust that, and then there's a fall. Life

1:26:06

is like really easy, really tough.

1:26:08

Really easy, really tough. But if you're a god,

1:26:10

you have a nighttime, the dark night of the

1:26:12

soul, you have the morning where it all is

1:26:14

brand new again. You set it up that way,

1:26:16

right? And it builds muscle. It makes you stronger.

1:26:19

Well, in the fall season, you

1:26:21

like, you know, if it's a fall financially, then, you

1:26:23

know, people want to give you a house even though

1:26:25

you don't have a job, right? You remember those days,

1:26:28

right? Money flows, stock markets go crazy. And then eventually

1:26:30

you go back to winter again. And

1:26:32

we're in winter, where people are seeing the

1:26:34

worst case in almost everything in each other,

1:26:36

in society, in the future. Oh my god,

1:26:39

it might be World War III. Oh, you

1:26:41

know, are we going to survive? And it's

1:26:43

exaggerated during that time. But

1:26:45

we get tired of being fearful, and

1:26:48

we start to grow, and we stop being

1:26:50

as judgmental because it takes so much energy

1:26:52

to be upset all the time. Right

1:26:55

now, people still get energy from being upset.

1:26:57

But pretty soon, they'll start to burn out,

1:27:00

and people start to look for something new. And

1:27:02

that something new will be a new springtime, and the world

1:27:05

would be different. There's going to be some major changes in

1:27:07

this world, they have to be. It's

1:27:09

not a bad time. You can see in snowboard

1:27:11

in the winter, you're going to be with your

1:27:13

family, you can have a great fire, you can

1:27:16

build a business. It's a great time. Don't be

1:27:18

mad at the season, use the season. But don't

1:27:20

think that when it's bad, it's going to be

1:27:22

bad forever. Or when it's good, it's going to

1:27:24

be good forever. Life is cyclical, history is cyclical.

1:27:27

So, it's like you want to take advantage of the

1:27:29

season you're in and have some perspective. If you were

1:27:31

born in 1910, I think I shared this with you

1:27:33

guys before, but for your listeners, if you're born in

1:27:35

1910, you don't have to be history buff. Just

1:27:38

remember that first season of springtime is 20

1:27:40

years in your life, right? You're

1:27:42

born in 1910, while you're growing up, we go through World

1:27:44

War I, it's scary, but you're protected, you're not going to

1:27:47

war. You're a kid. And

1:27:50

some tough times, but then we win the

1:27:52

war, we come back, and then there's this

1:27:54

explosion of technology, just like now. In

1:27:57

a short period of time, a few decades, we got

1:27:59

radios, television, and radio. We got

1:28:01

cars, we got airplanes, we have

1:28:03

tremendous economic abundance after all that,

1:28:05

right? It's a big fall. It's

1:28:07

wonderful. The Roaring Twenties. You

1:28:09

were born in 1910, 1920 or 10 years old. Right

1:28:13

at 19, when you think you're going to go party and have a

1:28:16

car, have a great time, by

1:28:18

the way, all those kids, they were called

1:28:20

flappers. They were looked down

1:28:22

on as a weak generation, like baby

1:28:24

boomers and exers look very often at

1:28:27

millennials and zees. Because truthfully,

1:28:29

millennials and zees are great human beings, but

1:28:31

they don't know what pain is. Because what they

1:28:33

think is pain is when their internet doesn't

1:28:35

work. They can't get their ancestors on their fingers.

1:28:37

So they don't know. I'm not being derogatory.

1:28:39

It's just they don't know, but they're going to

1:28:41

because it's just reciprocal. So what happened to

1:28:43

those people? They turned 19 years old in

1:28:46

1929. People

1:28:48

are jumping out of buildings. The economy drops through

1:28:50

the floor. The middle of the country is a

1:28:52

dust bowl. People are standing in line for bread.

1:28:55

Those weak ass kids became

1:28:58

incredibly strong. And

1:29:00

they made it through 10 years of depression. It

1:29:02

wasn't by when you say winter. It's not like

1:29:05

it's bad every day. It's just the

1:29:07

overall theme is fear. The overall theme is overreaction. And

1:29:09

so if you know what happened to depression, there were

1:29:11

some good times in the middle of the depression and

1:29:13

then bad times, right? The overall theme was painful. What

1:29:16

was the reward for 10 years of

1:29:18

making it through a depression and getting

1:29:20

strong? By the time they're 29, it's

1:29:23

1939 and World War II breaks out and you

1:29:25

and I weren't alive then, but it looked like

1:29:27

Hitler was going to win. He was strafing countries

1:29:29

and taking him over in days. He was bombing

1:29:31

London. It looked like the end

1:29:33

of the world. And those people volunteered to go

1:29:35

fight for that. Those

1:29:37

weak ass kids became unbelievably powerful. They became

1:29:39

known. They won the war, World War II.

1:29:42

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1:30:48

all went well till Kennedy got shot and

1:30:50

then Martin Luther King and then Robert

1:30:52

Kennedy And we went into

1:30:55

a hot summer but think about the 70s and

1:30:57

80s and how they were different than the 90s and 2000s or 2010s and

1:31:01

Listen after 9 11 and after

1:31:03

2008 or in winter winter has

1:31:06

some tough economic times and

1:31:08

winter usually has or Some significant war we're

1:31:10

probably gonna have at least the cyber war with

1:31:12

China We already have one but one that's

1:31:14

more extreme, and we're all gonna have to grow

1:31:16

from it So I think Millennials and Z's

1:31:18

are the new hero generations. They

1:31:21

just haven't gotten there yet They're being getting

1:31:23

prepared because the technology they know how to

1:31:25

use may not a network and communicate all

1:31:27

the good things They've got good values within

1:31:29

themselves when the real tough times come They're

1:31:31

gonna get incredibly strong and they're gonna change

1:31:33

society in a really beautiful way So it's

1:31:35

it's on the verge of happening as we

1:31:37

speak That's what

1:31:39

I mean by good times great weak people We

1:31:42

people great bad times bad times great strong

1:31:44

people strong people good great times That's

1:31:46

really that you can go through century after century

1:31:49

a thousand years of Roman history And you'll see

1:31:51

the same pattern Knowing

1:31:54

that can give you peace though. That's my

1:31:56

point when you recognize patterns. It's

1:31:58

not chaos anymore Oh no, this

1:32:01

is heaven before. Okay, this has a

1:32:03

purpose. Right? I mean, why

1:32:05

would God create winter? Everything looks like it's freezing

1:32:07

and dying. Well, you get rid of the old

1:32:09

and only the strong survive, and then it creates

1:32:11

a new season, the springtime, and new growth, and

1:32:13

new... If things didn't die, there would be no

1:32:15

room for something new to grow. I'm

1:32:18

going to have my time, and I'm going to have to

1:32:20

leave this planet at some point. I don't look forward to

1:32:22

it. But I do look forward to the fact that when

1:32:24

I leave, hopefully, there'll be a lot of souls that I've

1:32:26

contributed to, and a meaningful way I could feel like life

1:32:28

has tremendous meaning. If I die tomorrow,

1:32:30

I get to feel that way. But I also

1:32:32

know that, hey, well, someone

1:32:35

else is going to take this spot. Someone

1:32:37

else is going to have new ways of doing this.

1:32:39

Someone's going to do it better. Someone's going to stand

1:32:41

on the shoulders of the people before them, just like

1:32:43

I stood on the shoulders of people before me. And

1:32:46

I see the beauty in those seasons of life. And

1:32:48

so what it allows me to do is enjoy what

1:32:50

season I'm in, rather than saying, oh my God, you

1:32:52

know, there's only so many years left. Beautifully

1:32:55

said. Amen. You

1:32:57

reap what you sow. Without a doubt. Before

1:33:01

we tap into the new things that you're sowing,

1:33:04

I'm a new, engaged man. Yes,

1:33:07

I know that. Congratulations. Thank you. I appreciate it.

1:33:10

And there's a lot of men right now that, you know,

1:33:12

I feel like the 30s are the new 20s, right? So

1:33:15

there's a lot of men that are... Why

1:33:17

do you laugh at that? Well, because... You don't think

1:33:19

I look 20? No, no, I'm not

1:33:21

looking back. It's just, we've got more

1:33:23

people living at home at 30 years old than any

1:33:25

time in history, including the Depression. And

1:33:28

so I'm looking forward to seeing those people

1:33:30

pushed into a life where they get to grow again,

1:33:32

because you can't be happy when everyone else takes care

1:33:34

of you. You do nothing. And I

1:33:37

feel good for a while. I might feel comfortable, but

1:33:39

you don't have any pride. I don't mean pride

1:33:41

like ego pride. I mean, like when

1:33:43

people talk about self-esteem, I hate that term. It's

1:33:45

so bullshit overused. People think, well, no

1:33:47

one treated me while they said these terrible

1:33:50

things to me, so I have terrible self-esteem.

1:33:52

No. Like, how can you remember

1:33:54

only that? People say good things too, but you

1:33:56

remember those things conveniently, right? Someone could tell your

1:33:58

whole life you're a piece of crap. You're worthless

1:34:00

and some part of you can go, you know

1:34:02

what? I'm gonna show you and you go out

1:34:04

there and crush it in the world, right? Someone

1:34:06

can tell you your whole life. You're beautiful. You're

1:34:08

brilliant. You're amazing You're the best on earth and

1:34:11

you'd feel insecure because you know, you're not It's

1:34:14

not what people say to you The only way

1:34:16

you get self-esteem which means the steam for yourself

1:34:18

is by doing incredibly difficult things And you

1:34:20

know you pushed yourself through it And

1:34:23

then there's an inner pride that no

1:34:25

amount of money No amount of accolades can

1:34:27

match because you could take away everything I quote

1:34:29

have things you can't take away who I've become

1:34:31

as a man That's something

1:34:35

I know You know, I

1:34:37

want to jump into this before I jump into

1:34:39

the engagement thing because this is actually I

1:34:42

grew up in a house where my parents sat me down and they're like

1:34:44

when you turn 18 Well,

1:34:47

they used to say we're not in Mercaya and

1:34:49

that is certainly means we're not American which is

1:34:52

weird because we were American So

1:34:54

imagine growing up in the fucking house that

1:34:57

I had I would get grounded for failing

1:34:59

English and be yelled at in broken English

1:35:01

Like brother, you know, you fucking come do

1:35:03

this homework guys. You're my example. You want

1:35:06

to know why I'm failing you guys But

1:35:09

they would be like we're not in Mercaya when

1:35:11

you're 18. This will always be your home. That's

1:35:14

beautiful. I left when I was 21 But

1:35:19

In my culture, we never were like hey when

1:35:21

you're 18, you're a man get out of the

1:35:23

house That's scary

1:35:25

when you think of that My parents always

1:35:27

encouraged me to go be my man, but they always reassured

1:35:29

me that I'd always have a home And

1:35:32

even when I go to their house, I'm like, oh, I'm going to

1:35:34

my mom's house They're yelling at me. This is your house. Stop saying

1:35:36

it's your mom's house. I'm going 31 years old mom. I have a

1:35:39

At two places now. I don't even have one You

1:35:42

keep this house. Yeah, and they'll

1:35:44

be like no, this is your home and I

1:35:47

think we need it for the

1:35:49

Emmerichias the Americans I think they need

1:35:51

to stop telling their kids that they're men at

1:35:53

18 even though they are man Men,

1:35:57

it's we don't have it. We don't have any

1:35:59

kind of virtual attention transition anymore for that. In many

1:36:01

cultures in the world you have to do something

1:36:03

at that age that makes you a man. You

1:36:05

have to get up and leave the tribe. You

1:36:08

have to go out, go on the hunt. You

1:36:10

have to jump off that pole and survive. They

1:36:12

have all kinds of rituals that make this transition

1:36:14

to being a man and not just a boy.

1:36:17

Now I think keeping the boy alive in you

1:36:19

and the man is important. I think they're both

1:36:21

important parts of our show. Sound like heart. Yeah.

1:36:23

So but I think we're missing that piece. So

1:36:26

to say somebody's a man because they're 18 or

1:36:28

21 doesn't mean anything today because there's no challenge.

1:36:30

There's no push. There's no requirement for you to

1:36:33

be able to stand on your own two feet

1:36:35

completely. But I think it's beautiful. With my kids

1:36:37

I've told them all you are

1:36:39

loved from everywhere you go. You're loved, you'll be loved

1:36:41

forever. You'll always have me in your corner. My respect

1:36:43

you have to earn. My love

1:36:46

you have. I respect you have to

1:36:48

earn. It's different because I don't

1:36:50

respect you if you sit in your ass and

1:36:52

don't do anything. You don't contribute to society. You

1:36:54

don't find a way to give back. I mean

1:36:56

life is not here so we just get everything.

1:36:58

I think that's the mistake in a relationship by

1:37:00

the way. In the beginning of relationship every relationship

1:37:03

is easy because it's all chemistry. So everything's perfect

1:37:05

and easy. When the chemistry wears off because you

1:37:07

run into a problem with your child or in

1:37:09

your business or somebody gets ill or something then

1:37:12

what happens is the polarity the opposite energy's

1:37:14

often become the same. Both people get masculine

1:37:16

to deal with a problem or both get

1:37:18

feminine and there's no alternate

1:37:20

energy. You got North and South Pole opposite

1:37:22

energy is great life. You put

1:37:24

a plug in opposite energy creates that electricity.

1:37:27

So when we lose that in

1:37:29

a relationship it's also usually because we're looking

1:37:31

for someone there to give us something. A

1:37:33

relationship's a place you go to give not to

1:37:35

get. Serve. And if you really go to serve

1:37:37

in a relationship then you're never gonna feel it

1:37:40

because the love you express you feel. But if

1:37:42

you're waiting for someone to meet your needs every

1:37:44

moment it's a very different experience. So I just

1:37:46

think that life is calling to us to

1:37:49

bring something to life. We're responsible for life

1:37:51

for something. It's not life is responsible to

1:37:53

us. And unfortunately our

1:37:56

culture and COVID did this as well. somebody

1:38:00

young may not remember, but it was a brutal time

1:38:03

for people financially in business. The difference is the

1:38:05

government is sending you a check. So

1:38:07

you had to figure what the hell to do. This

1:38:09

time now no one wants to go to work. Why

1:38:12

should I have to drive to work? Why should I

1:38:14

have to work nine to five, right? Cause it's how

1:38:16

you develop skills and characters so you can be free

1:38:18

and add value and do other things. But because you're

1:38:20

here not just to get, but now when people think

1:38:22

they're just here to get, they're miserable. You see all

1:38:24

the studies right now, people are more unhappy than ever

1:38:26

been in their work and they don't

1:38:28

want to go to work. And by the way, some jobs are

1:38:30

better at home. I understand that you're right. Code or something might

1:38:33

be better, but the ones at

1:38:35

home are complaining that they don't like their work because

1:38:38

they feel lonely and separated. Cause life is

1:38:40

not about making it easy. Life is the

1:38:42

hero's journey. You need to be called. And

1:38:44

if you don't get called now, eventually you're

1:38:46

going to get called by something life or

1:38:48

God or the universal step in and kick

1:38:51

your ass to wake you up. Now,

1:38:53

some people takes a lot of kicking before they wake

1:38:55

up. Some people never wake up, but

1:38:57

the majority of people at some point are going to wake up.

1:38:59

The question was you stay awake. I don't mean woke. I mean

1:39:01

awake. Awake to the fact that

1:39:03

you're responsible to life for something more than just

1:39:05

your needs being met. And I think

1:39:08

when people do that, life is rich because

1:39:10

it's meaningful because it isn't just me, it's

1:39:12

we. You wrote

1:39:14

a line saying you can either make a living

1:39:16

or create a life. Yes, design and create a

1:39:18

life, exactly. Most people just make a living to

1:39:20

get caught up in that pattern. That's the river

1:39:23

I was talking about. You get caught up in

1:39:25

the river of life. You don't know where you're

1:39:27

going. And you get caught up in the current

1:39:29

problem, current challenges, current people around you. And

1:39:31

then you get to the fork in the river and you

1:39:34

don't decide, you just go with the flow. Well, where the

1:39:36

majority is going is not usually the best place to go.

1:39:38

Right? You're almost doing the opposite, but it'll

1:39:40

almost be better for the most part. And then all of a

1:39:42

sudden you wake up one day and you're in a

1:39:44

boat with no pals, five feet from Niagara Falls.

1:39:47

You go, oops, that's a little late. So you

1:39:49

gotta decide what is my life gonna be about?

1:39:51

I don't even know my perfect mission and purpose,

1:39:53

but what are all my life's essence to be

1:39:55

about? Don't make it so it has to be

1:39:57

worded perfectly, what am I here to do? I'm

1:40:00

here to grow, I'm here to give, I'm here to

1:40:02

laugh, I'm here to learn, I'm here to honor, what

1:40:05

am I here for? And I think when

1:40:07

people start to tap into that, which people do

1:40:09

when they get in peak states, that's why I

1:40:11

do seminars, by the way. Books

1:40:13

are fantastic for learning, educating, and so forth,

1:40:15

but there's nothing like an

1:40:18

event. Because when you go to an event for

1:40:20

12 hours, it's like if I said you're going to learn

1:40:22

a language and you're going to learn a little bit at

1:40:24

a time in college or high school and people don't speak

1:40:26

the language, I drop you in Italy for 90 days with

1:40:28

no teacher, I'll come back in 90 days, you're

1:40:31

speaking Italian because you're an immersion. So I do

1:40:33

immersion with people, but I also do it

1:40:35

when I put people in peak states, like we

1:40:37

talked about biochemical states, and in those states you

1:40:39

get answers. But when

1:40:41

you're like, I don't know,

1:40:43

what's my purpose? In

1:40:46

this state, you will never discover it. You're

1:40:49

going to discover it by not having the perfect answer,

1:40:52

it's like a business. People say don't

1:40:54

put the cart before the horse. I was interviewing a guy

1:40:56

a couple days ago for a group of entrepreneurs I work

1:40:58

with around the world, and

1:41:02

he created a company, he created

1:41:04

diapers.com. He

1:41:06

went online and saw there were 200,000 looked views

1:41:09

for diapers and no one was selling them. So

1:41:12

he figured how to do that, sold it for half a billion

1:41:14

dollars to Amazon, and then he built something

1:41:16

called jet.com, which he sold to Walmart in

1:41:19

one year, one year of business for $3.3

1:41:21

billion, right? He's just

1:41:23

a genius guy. But one

1:41:25

of his philosophies is put the cart before the

1:41:27

horse. In other words, get your ass

1:41:29

in the game. You got an idea?

1:41:31

Put it on the line. Don't sit and analyze it

1:41:33

and work it all out. Try it.

1:41:36

What doesn't work? Change, change, change, change, change, so you get where you

1:41:38

want to go. That's the game that

1:41:41

is life. Life is calling to you to get in

1:41:43

the game. If you get in a game, you're going

1:41:45

to have a time of your life. You're going to

1:41:47

love life. When people say, oh, I'm bored, this is

1:41:49

so boring. I remember the day I was bored. The

1:41:51

only way you could be bored is put yourself in

1:41:53

such a lousy state over and over again that your

1:41:55

brain is bored with everything. But if you're looking to

1:41:57

serve something more than yourself, then you got to learn.

1:42:00

grow and you'll feel a sense of

1:42:02

alignment that comes from that. That's, that's

1:42:04

again, grow and give. If

1:42:06

you do those two things, you're going to have a magnificent

1:42:08

life. If you don't, it doesn't matter. You could have a

1:42:10

billion dollars and million people loving you and

1:42:13

you won't love yourself. Circling

1:42:15

back to the reap and soak, because this is going to follow what

1:42:18

you're just saying. Sure. I want to make

1:42:20

sure that I am a, I'm a husband who

1:42:22

serves, right? So I got engaged and I didn't just

1:42:24

make a promise to her father. I made a promise

1:42:26

to God. And what I've

1:42:28

learned, monitored about myself and a lot of

1:42:31

great people is that they want to serve

1:42:33

their family and they try so hard that

1:42:35

they serve their family into the grave. By

1:42:38

example, you wrote about a book, uh,

1:42:40

in your book, you wrote that a man will come

1:42:42

home exhausted from work. And when he sees his loving

1:42:44

life out there, he trains his brain. And when

1:42:47

he was sad and angry and frustrated, he's, he's

1:42:49

correlating both his wife and his pain. That's right. He

1:42:51

has nothing to do with her. If you're in a

1:42:53

lousy state and then you see your wife or

1:42:55

husband or boyfriend or girlfriend or children, even in a

1:42:57

lousy state about your work or something else, and

1:42:59

you do that over and over again, they get linked

1:43:02

together and you look at it one day, have

1:43:04

a great day. You look at them and you feel

1:43:06

pissed off or you feel overwhelmed or you feel

1:43:08

stressed. So that's why it's so important to learn how

1:43:10

to manage your own psychological emotional state. Like if you

1:43:12

can learn to live in a beautiful state of

1:43:14

mind, that's the greatest gift you could give your wife.

1:43:17

Besides your love is that

1:43:19

no matter what happens, shit's

1:43:21

going to happen in your life. There's going to be

1:43:23

stuff that's really tough. There's going to be stuff that

1:43:25

seems impossible. I'm glad you got you

1:43:27

came to this positive conversation, but it's true. Right. But

1:43:29

how you deal with that is everything. I

1:43:32

used to think, well, man, when I get pissed off,

1:43:34

my brain gets so sharp and I come up with

1:43:36

an answer. That's true. But when I'm really happy, my

1:43:38

brain comes up with answers even faster and I'm a

1:43:40

lot easier to be around, you know, other people want

1:43:42

to be around you. So it's like, I've learned to

1:43:45

train myself. I'm not perfect. It's not

1:43:47

like I won't get pissed off or frustrated, overwhelmed

1:43:49

or stressed. It's just, I give myself 90 seconds

1:43:51

and I kick my ass out of it because

1:43:53

that will not serve anyone I love. Then

1:43:56

they take on worried about you or worried about

1:43:58

the situation. It's like, no, every. everything's

1:44:00

solvable. It might take more time

1:44:02

than we want, but we're gonna solve this. But in the

1:44:04

meantime, we're gonna live in a beautiful state because there's so

1:44:06

much grace that God has

1:44:08

given us. And we need to appreciate that. And

1:44:11

then we'll figure out these things. Problems are a sign of

1:44:13

life. I remember I met Norman Vincent Peale when he was

1:44:15

92 years old. He wrote the original,

1:44:17

he's a minister. He wrote Power of Positive Thinking.

1:44:19

And I was 32. He

1:44:22

invited me up to Canada. He was doing a seminar. My career was

1:44:24

starting to take off. So I got a chance to go meet him.

1:44:27

I went backstage with him. And I remember at Santa, I

1:44:30

said, you know, I said, he said, call me Norman. I said, Norman,

1:44:32

I said, I just curious.

1:44:35

I said, why are you still doing seminars at 92? And

1:44:37

he goes, well, there's still a few negative people

1:44:39

out there. And I said, okay, I got

1:44:41

60 more years of this going forward. But

1:44:44

then I asked him, I said, he

1:44:46

started out was horse and buggy. He's seen radio,

1:44:49

television, cars. I mean, imagine what he

1:44:51

saw in his lifetime in that century.

1:44:54

I said, what's the most important lesson that

1:44:56

people need to have? He

1:44:59

said, they need to understand the power of

1:45:01

problems. And I said, what do you mean?

1:45:04

He said, well, the only people out

1:45:06

problems are people in cemeteries. I said, I think

1:45:08

I heard that somewhere. He said, I said that

1:45:10

in 1940, whenever six or something. He

1:45:12

goes, but they don't give my full quote. My

1:45:14

full quote was, the only people out

1:45:16

problems are in cemeteries. So if you don't have any

1:45:19

problems, you should get on your knees and beg for

1:45:21

some and pray for some right now because problems are

1:45:23

a sign of life. And

1:45:25

he said, he was sitting at a table one day with Gene

1:45:27

Tunney, who was the heavyweight boxer of the

1:45:29

world in the 40s, I guess, or 50s. I'm

1:45:32

not old enough to remember what it was. And he

1:45:34

said, they were both speakers and they were on this dais

1:45:36

and having lunch right before the speech. And

1:45:38

here he's just buffed out

1:45:40

like crazies, unbelievable muscular

1:45:43

specimen. And so Norman said, I

1:45:45

turned him and said, how do you get muscles like that? And

1:45:48

he said, Gene turned him and said, do you really wanna know

1:45:50

or you just ask him? And

1:45:52

he thought to himself, I really was

1:45:54

just asking, now I really do wanna

1:45:56

know. So he goes, no, I really

1:45:58

wanna know. And he goes, every. Every day

1:46:00

I push against unbelievably intense resistance

1:46:03

and that's what sculpts and builds

1:46:05

these muscles." And

1:46:08

Norman sat there for a little bit and he said, I thought about

1:46:10

it, thought about it. He goes,

1:46:12

I think that's why God gives us problems because by

1:46:14

pushing through those we sculpt ourselves. I

1:46:16

never forgot that. So it's like your

1:46:19

goal, you're never going to get rid of problems. If you're

1:46:21

in business, you have problems. You might call them challenges, but

1:46:23

they're problems. But what makes you

1:46:25

a leader is you solve them quickly. And

1:46:28

the goal is just get better quality problems. I

1:46:31

remember when Apple was trying to be able to sell

1:46:33

something, they're going bankrupt. And then all of a sudden

1:46:35

they come up with the iPod and

1:46:38

music and pretty soon they didn't

1:46:40

have enough of them. It's a new quality problem.

1:46:42

People are suing them because they scratch too easily,

1:46:44

but they're making a billion dollars. It's a new

1:46:47

problem. It's a better quality problem for their business.

1:46:49

We all have those. We're all going to have problems,

1:46:52

but they're just opportunities for growth. They're

1:46:54

that call to adventure. It's the hero's journey.

1:46:58

And by the way, you and your wife will have

1:47:00

that experience. No, we're perfect. Not yet. No

1:47:03

problem. No, but wait, there's

1:47:05

a season to relationship. Can I just give it to you

1:47:07

for a second? Please. First

1:47:10

season? Somewhere in three to five years. Various

1:47:12

for people, most seven. Huge

1:47:15

chemistry and everything seems

1:47:17

to be perfect and easy and you have

1:47:19

the best relationship in the world and everybody

1:47:21

envies you because you still have

1:47:23

polarity and if things go well, you have

1:47:25

so much attraction. When you're attracted to somebody,

1:47:27

you make everything great. Men may say it's

1:47:29

great, but then there's some days

1:47:31

where you'll start to gradually, as time goes

1:47:34

by, run into challenges. May

1:47:36

not even be each other. And you deal

1:47:38

with those challenges and the frustration around each other and some

1:47:40

of that feeling gets in there and maybe

1:47:42

she starts to say, man, why does

1:47:44

he always say that? Or

1:47:46

you think, why can't she ever get ready?

1:47:48

Why are we always like little

1:47:51

shit that you feel a little resistance to? But

1:47:53

if you don't solve it, it'll start

1:47:56

to build over the time until the resistance starts

1:47:58

to be a little bit of... Rejection

1:48:01

right and then you might start saying something and

1:48:03

it doesn't feel fair and then some people just

1:48:05

go under pressure And they stay in relationship 20

1:48:07

years, and they have two different lives, and they

1:48:09

live together, but they're really not there Yeah, right

1:48:11

that first season usually is pretty easy And

1:48:14

then you start bumping into things that are different, and that's what

1:48:16

makes us grow But some people

1:48:18

think the purpose of relationship is pleasure,

1:48:20

and it's not pleasurable anymore shit So

1:48:22

they're out that's most people the second

1:48:25

season so that's springtime summer is a

1:48:27

more of a test Summer

1:48:29

is you run into some real problems your kid

1:48:31

gets ill or you have a kid or something's

1:48:34

gone wrong with the business or there's something going

1:48:36

on the economy or a coven and You

1:48:39

go you're both individuals and

1:48:42

so you're trying to still meet your own needs And

1:48:44

so the battles get stronger and a lot of people

1:48:47

leave there the other not even for me. They're not

1:48:49

here for me It's me me me still Where

1:48:52

the world transforms is when you go from

1:48:54

conditional love to unconditional love right

1:48:57

when you go into the third? season of life That's

1:49:00

usually somebody's usually at least in their

1:49:02

40s quite honestly and now You

1:49:05

are so in love. It's eternal love you know

1:49:07

it's love you've been through shit together you grew

1:49:09

together You expand together coming closer and closer together,

1:49:12

and now what problems will still show up Maybe

1:49:15

one of your parents gets Alzheimer's maybe there's some

1:49:17

new challenge with business But you solve it together,

1:49:19

and it's a we and you have there are

1:49:21

no conditions to your love It's like most people

1:49:24

have great relationships with their kids because they know they're not

1:49:26

gonna leave them You know but

1:49:28

that man and woman may leave me so if

1:49:30

you're a kid You don't have one yet, but

1:49:32

if your kid killed somebody you wouldn't support it,

1:49:34

but you still love them Yeah, but people say

1:49:36

in a relationship if you ever do this, and

1:49:39

I'm out of here That's conditional

1:49:41

of when you have third season you're

1:49:43

past all that shit You just love

1:49:45

that person soul and you will still have

1:49:47

problems But you solve them together and then the fourth

1:49:49

season is the final winter time of

1:49:51

your life And that's where as the

1:49:53

years go by the body starts to

1:49:55

break down and the soul starts to ascend

1:49:59

And one of you will pass And

1:50:01

if the love is that deep, if you

1:50:03

go through all the seasons, you

1:50:06

have the privilege of

1:50:08

whether you go first or there goes first of knowing it's

1:50:10

eternal love. And it's something beyond

1:50:12

imagination that brings tears to my eyes because I

1:50:14

have the privilege of having that with

1:50:16

my wife after 24 years. Most

1:50:19

incredible soul that I could ever dream of having. I

1:50:21

thank God every day because I go like, I

1:50:24

help millions of people and my gift was, he gave

1:50:26

me this woman in my life. And

1:50:28

I will probably go before her because I'm older than she is. She

1:50:31

may go before me. I don't relish the moments

1:50:34

of that time, but it just makes everything

1:50:36

more precious because you know time is limited.

1:50:39

I'll be 64 in a month. So I'm still a

1:50:41

young man, but I had a lot of friends

1:50:43

who died in their 60s and some in their 50s and some

1:50:45

in their 70s. So you

1:50:47

start to realize there's a point in your life and you're not

1:50:49

there where you will hit what they call middle age. And here's

1:50:51

how you know your middle age. You'll

1:50:53

realize there may be more days behind me than

1:50:56

ahead of me. I had my 60th birthday four

1:50:58

years ago. I had this big party where I raised a

1:51:00

bunch of money to save children. It was really wonderful. Keep

1:51:03

children in traffic. I raised 19 million dollars. Great

1:51:06

party. I didn't want to do a party, but we made

1:51:08

it with a purpose. We did it. And one of

1:51:10

my friends got up who's now 80 years old and

1:51:12

he goes, welcome to midlife. He goes, then again, I

1:51:14

don't know my 120 year olds. And

1:51:18

so when you look and you go the racetrack of

1:51:20

life only has so much time, it makes it more

1:51:22

valuable. I was going to ask this now

1:51:25

that you know that and it brings you tears in your

1:51:27

eyes, the moment that you're

1:51:29

with your wife means a lot more.

1:51:32

Every moment means it. Yeah. So

1:51:34

you don't have to wait till that stage if

1:51:36

you know what the racetrack looks like. And

1:51:39

by the way, it's the same for everyone. Most people don't

1:51:41

make it to the fourth level, as you well know, or

1:51:43

even the third level. But will your

1:51:46

sense of grace and gratitude and love

1:51:48

and your desire to serve your wife,

1:51:51

not just get from your wife. I

1:51:54

believe you've got that opportunity. But if

1:51:56

you know where it is, you get there quicker. You

1:51:58

don't have to go through some of the other things. You can get

1:52:00

to the we part you can get to the unconditional

1:52:02

love part so much more rapidly The

1:52:05

biggest problem in relationships today is everybody thinks you're supposed

1:52:07

to meet my needs Right

1:52:09

and no, that's not how it works What in

1:52:12

a relationship you can have one or two things you're gonna have like people

1:52:15

talk about toxic masculine There's toxic

1:52:17

masculine feminine. It's somebody who thinks

1:52:20

I'm getting what I want or I'm out of here So

1:52:23

some men are demanding some women

1:52:25

are will use their their You

1:52:27

know sensual ways to get whatever they want and if they

1:52:29

don't get it they're out of here some men Those is

1:52:32

what I'm doing. I'm out of here. It's an immature person

1:52:35

The second stage is equality Okay,

1:52:37

you do your part. I do my part That's

1:52:41

a transaction and it

1:52:43

sounds really good because it sounds Egalitarian

1:52:45

on the surface it is but then there's no

1:52:47

opposite energies and there's no passion So you have

1:52:50

two people that are good friends

1:52:52

and they live together, but they don't really have any passion

1:52:54

Those are the people that say it works. I stick around

1:52:57

There's no passion, but there's a third level and the

1:52:59

third level is your needs or my needs Instead

1:53:02

of I can't make you feel this way I'll do

1:53:04

whatever it takes to meet your needs because that's what

1:53:06

lights me up I'm

1:53:12

trying to do something for her. No. No, she's

1:53:14

trying to do it for me And we get

1:53:16

in this play fight and it's fun But it's

1:53:18

a quality quality problem to have right it's a

1:53:20

different thing But you can get there faster if

1:53:22

you know what the target is Yeah, you don't

1:53:24

have to take so long and some seasons some

1:53:26

winters along some are short, right? You

1:53:29

can speed up the seasons if you know where

1:53:31

you're going again It's pattern recognition pattern utilization and

1:53:33

maybe pattern creation And that's it's a powerful tool

1:53:35

when you know how to use other people's patterns

1:53:37

so you don't have to make that mistake That's

1:53:39

right So when I was in the industry and

1:53:41

I just started getting a lot of money and

1:53:43

a lot of recognition The first thing that everybody

1:53:45

I love me was hey, dude, what are you

1:53:47

doing in a relationship? It was new so

1:53:50

they're kind of like hey, dude, like, you know, even people

1:53:52

that are very close to me They're like dude if I

1:53:54

was you I'll be I'll be doing this I'll be doing

1:53:56

that and if you have enough love

1:53:59

people that you you love tell you something, you kind

1:54:01

of start like questioning it. And

1:54:03

so I realized that I was

1:54:05

like monogamy started getting harder. Cause I'm like, oh yeah, like

1:54:08

one girl, this is my prime. What if this doesn't work?

1:54:10

And then I just wasted all of that time. And then

1:54:12

you start thinking about your past relationship. You're like, well, I

1:54:14

thought she was the one, but then she cheated on me

1:54:16

and da da da da da da. And by the way,

1:54:18

watch what's happening. Are you in your mind or your heart

1:54:21

when this is going on? I'm in my mind. The

1:54:23

mind will always mess you up. Get in your head, you're dead.

1:54:25

Yup. In a relationship, once you get in your head,

1:54:27

it's over. You've got to come back to your heart. When

1:54:30

I say heart, like literally they've proven this physiologically,

1:54:32

you put your hands on your heart and you

1:54:34

breathe and imagine breathing into your heart for two

1:54:36

minutes. And you think of three things you're grateful

1:54:39

for. This is a process that was

1:54:41

developed. You change your entire

1:54:43

biochemistry. And then all of a sudden you'll

1:54:45

have a whole different answer, things you can't solve. You're all stressed

1:54:48

out about it. I'll say, okay, good, put your hands on your

1:54:50

heart, breathe, feel the breath going

1:54:52

in and out. And I'll say, think of

1:54:54

a moment you're really grateful for, but don't think of it over

1:54:56

there. Step into the moment like you're there. It could be a

1:54:58

little moment. Two or

1:55:00

three of those moments, their entire biochemistry, now I'll

1:55:02

say, okay, that problem that seems so unsolvable. Answer

1:55:06

this for me, stay in state, not in your head and your heart and

1:55:08

tell me. Answer to finish

1:55:10

the sentence while you're breathing in your heart. All

1:55:12

I need to remember, all I

1:55:14

need to focus on in that situation, all I really need to do

1:55:17

is what? All I need to remember, all

1:55:19

I need to do is what? And

1:55:22

people get the answer immediately. Because

1:55:25

you can see biochemically, you know how you

1:55:27

can measure your brain's electrical impulses and your

1:55:29

heart, EKG, EEG. When you

1:55:31

see somebody who's stressed out or pissed off

1:55:33

or angry, you can see these do not

1:55:35

match. They're really, they're up and down all

1:55:37

around. When you do this for two minutes,

1:55:39

they literally unify and make a perfect symbol

1:55:41

of the same because now your heart and

1:55:43

your brain work together. And when you were

1:55:45

born, I'm not when you're born, when you

1:55:48

were in your mother and we knew you

1:55:50

were alive, how we know you were alive,

1:55:52

heartbeat, right? Now

1:55:54

guess what? As long as that's beating, you got life. There

1:55:57

was no brain when that heart started beating. So.

1:56:00

Your heart has its own intelligence and it affects your

1:56:02

brain But if you only use your mind you're

1:56:04

screwed in a relationship You're screwed in just about

1:56:07

anything the mind is a tool that should be

1:56:09

used don't let it use you It's like technology

1:56:11

today people have technology use them they get addicted.

1:56:13

They don't know in control of it It's like

1:56:15

it's a whole different game use your brain your

1:56:17

brain will never give you fulfillment Your

1:56:19

mind won't yeah only heart will do that your

1:56:22

brain won't even allow you your mind won't even allow you

1:56:24

to enjoy an apple We go is it organic? So

1:56:27

if you're gonna enjoy your

1:56:29

life You got to learn how to bring this

1:56:32

back and not let this control you because our

1:56:34

society Keeps pushing us here

1:56:36

and ego brings us here Yeah, because it's

1:56:38

always comparing and the people that were giving

1:56:40

me that advice for egotistical maniacs and so

1:56:43

well, they're growing They're learning they're young we

1:56:45

all some of them weren't some of them were married So

1:56:51

I My again, I

1:56:53

like my whole thing is like I bring it to

1:56:55

God so I heard all this I read Proverbs that

1:56:57

day I read a good woman is

1:57:00

the best gift from God and

1:57:02

so I go okay So I sat back and

1:57:04

I looked at everyone who gave me advice and

1:57:06

I'm like they're this age and they're still chasing

1:57:08

tail And no offense you look like a

1:57:10

creep at the club and then I go okay Well, what

1:57:12

do I want and I go well, I want a family

1:57:14

and I want a girl that When

1:57:16

I looked at Bella I knew she was the one because when

1:57:18

I looked at her I pray to God I go this is

1:57:20

the first woman that if my kids turned out like her I'd

1:57:22

praise my God until I pass away So

1:57:25

when I held on to this I go, okay. Well, if there is

1:57:27

a devil I Guarantee you if

1:57:29

you saw a beautiful gift from God He's

1:57:31

gonna fill it with lies so I could get rid

1:57:33

of it because you can't touch what God

1:57:35

gave me And so I sat there and

1:57:37

I go God if this is the problem I go remove me

1:57:39

from the industry that or make me a man who

1:57:42

could stand strong here supporting my wife

1:57:44

and loving her like my church and Dude,

1:57:47

I'm gonna sound like a crazy man, but it

1:57:49

was just overnight. I started looking at women differently

1:57:51

overnight I started looking at women that

1:57:53

were doing only fans and I was like, okay

1:57:55

Like instead of me looking at them like well

1:57:57

if I was single, you know now it's

1:57:59

just kind of like well why is this woman in this

1:58:01

position and how can I get her out of it and

1:58:05

it all flipped for me and

1:58:07

I just feel so sad that there is

1:58:09

people like me that don't have wisdom to

1:58:11

fall on to get them out of

1:58:13

a situation because if I was a dummy when

1:58:16

I proposed to my girlfriend I was sobbing and when

1:58:19

I was sobbing people were probably like oh

1:58:22

my god he's happy about this what I

1:58:24

was sobbing about is God saved me from

1:58:27

a decision that if

1:58:29

I would have made for all

1:58:31

the money in the world the day before

1:58:33

I proposed to my girlfriend we

1:58:35

were on a bike and I kept

1:58:37

yelling at her I go hey you're getting reckless because you're

1:58:40

getting comfortable with that and hurt

1:58:42

you though still like an

1:58:44

airhead she's freaking trying to do jumps with

1:58:46

no helmet so I'm riding

1:58:48

a bike and we're on Belle on Belle

1:58:50

Street ironically and

1:58:54

in my head I swear you could ask her this is

1:58:57

legit I'm riding my bike and I see her fall

1:58:59

into the street and get hit by a car and

1:59:02

I turn around to tell her hey I just had a

1:59:04

thing and before I even mention it she's in the street

1:59:06

with the bike on her because

1:59:08

she crashed and she's in the street exactly like

1:59:10

how I saw it and

1:59:12

in that moment I know it sounds crazy

1:59:15

but in those type of moments everything freezes

1:59:17

like everything freezes and I knew in

1:59:19

that moment when I saw that girl there and I'm running

1:59:21

toward her I literally told God I

1:59:23

go you could remove my health remove

1:59:26

everything but don't let a hair

1:59:28

come off of her head and I'm running and in

1:59:30

my mind when I'm picking her up and she doesn't

1:59:32

even know I'm about to propose but imagine me carrying

1:59:34

a ring on me all the time and

1:59:36

if this could have happened and I never even got to

1:59:39

show her how much I loved it all I kept thinking

1:59:41

about was I

1:59:43

almost gave away something that

1:59:46

I would now give away everything

1:59:48

for that

1:59:50

wasn't my thoughts man that's the enemy's

1:59:52

thoughts yeah well

1:59:55

guess what there'll be a

1:59:57

stage in your life in the future when you'll have children

2:00:00

and then you'll have this experience at another level. And

2:00:02

then grandchildren. And so, you

2:00:04

know, I've got five kids and five grandkids, and my

2:00:07

oldest daughter is gonna be 49 in a month, and

2:00:10

my youngest is two and three

2:00:12

quarters. She's gonna be three in a

2:00:14

couple months. So I

2:00:17

got five grandkids. My daughter is, you know,

2:00:19

she's the, what do you call

2:00:22

it, the auntie to my grandchildren,

2:00:24

and they're older than she is. There's

2:00:26

nothing like love within a

2:00:28

family, whether it be your intimate love or

2:00:30

your children. And those are all the

2:00:32

beautiful things ahead of you. And a lot of

2:00:34

people miss out on that because they get caught

2:00:37

up in the society that keeps teaching them that

2:00:39

they're not enough, so they gotta try and prove

2:00:41

it by buying something or

2:00:43

doing something. Listen, buy and do whatever you

2:00:45

want in your life, but this is the

2:00:47

essence of where life is most fulfilled. And

2:00:49

without it, all that other shit doesn't

2:00:51

mean anything. I don't want kids,

2:00:54

the reason why is, like I'm gonna have kids,

2:00:56

obviously, because that's what you do with life. I

2:00:58

don't want kids for one reason only. I'm

2:01:01

terrified that I can't protect them at

2:01:03

the same time, all the time. Because when I

2:01:05

saw her in the street, I go, my God, you know what,

2:01:07

she's the most clumsy person, and I fell in love with that.

2:01:10

She's the most clumsy human, and I was like, oh, that's

2:01:12

so cute, until I fell in love with her. I'm like,

2:01:14

yo, this is dangerous. You're your biggest problem, dog. Like, you

2:01:16

need to figure it out. And like, I get mad

2:01:19

at her. I'm like, yo, you need to stop

2:01:21

bumping your head. And then she's cutting for food.

2:01:23

She cuts her finger. I'm like, yo, pay attention,

2:01:25

dog. And it's like, to me, it's like, yo,

2:01:27

she's a full-blown adult. I'm gonna

2:01:29

punch my kid in the face if he scares me like this.

2:01:31

Like, what am I gonna do? But I'll put a chain on

2:01:33

him, lock him up here. No, you can

2:01:35

develop more faith. You

2:01:42

know, it's true. My wife, Billy's

2:01:44

here. Is that not perfect description of my

2:01:46

wife? My wife is pretty. Where are I

2:01:48

from? She's always breaking things. She's always dropping

2:01:50

things. And it used to freak

2:01:53

me out. My daughter, you know, is a

2:01:55

little less than that, but she models her

2:01:57

mother to some extent. But there's

2:01:59

a- in which you have to put your trust in something

2:02:01

more than yourself because you're not God and you can't

2:02:04

be there every moment. But what you can do is

2:02:06

you can love them, you can be for them, you

2:02:08

can arm them, you can help them with skills and

2:02:10

abilities, and you can be there when they're most needed.

2:02:13

But there's no guarantee in life. And

2:02:15

who's to say when it's somebody's time to go? You and I

2:02:17

don't know that. So most

2:02:19

people aren't going to have kids right now because they're missing

2:02:21

what's called a compelling future. That's what you need. Anybody

2:02:24

can deal with a difficult today if they have a compelling tomorrow.

2:02:27

It doesn't matter. But right now, people have been told that

2:02:29

the whole earth is going to be gone in 12 years,

2:02:31

and the earth's going to be fine. You

2:02:34

might not be here if you don't get to act together, but the

2:02:36

earth's going to be fine. It's

2:02:38

all bullshit. But when you hear enough of that over and

2:02:40

over again, or you think, I've never been a parent, I've

2:02:42

never been responsible, but that will all evolve for you as

2:02:44

it does for not for everyone, but it will for you.

2:02:46

And the reason I say it will for you is I

2:02:49

can't say for sure. But the

2:02:51

path you're on is a path of humble

2:02:54

inquiry. And when you're

2:02:56

constantly curious and inquiring and you want to grow

2:02:58

and you want to expand, your

2:03:00

life is going to be extraordinary because it will just

2:03:02

keep unfolding more and more. And you

2:03:05

have your 31, is that right? You got

2:03:07

decades ahead of you that you have

2:03:09

no idea of both challenge and opportunity

2:03:11

and new mentors and new experiences and

2:03:13

family. I mean, I'm excited for you.

2:03:17

I'll have a little ticket to your parade because since you're

2:03:19

public, I get to watch and see some of the beautiful

2:03:21

things you're doing. And I enjoy

2:03:23

that because you're a good human being. I appreciate that.

2:03:26

You got something amazing happening actually very soon.

2:03:29

Yes. You have a summit, you have a book.

2:03:31

Yes. What are you more excited about? Oh

2:03:33

my gosh, excited about both. Let me mention the summit first

2:03:35

because it's so easy. So if people are watching, you

2:03:37

know, I normally do like four

2:03:39

days, 12 hours a day with, you know,

2:03:42

15, 20,000 people in a stadium type of

2:03:44

thing. And when COVID happened, they

2:03:46

shut down all the stadiums and I wanted to serve

2:03:48

people. So I finally said, I want to do something

2:03:50

for people all over the world because I usually do

2:03:52

things in 195 countries across the world. I

2:03:55

want to do something that costs no money for anybody. I mean, I

2:03:57

don't have to travel because they couldn't. limited

2:04:00

all the barriers in their home while they're here in the

2:04:02

middle of COVID, I wanted them to see they can still

2:04:04

take control of the quality of their life. And

2:04:06

so I said, I'm going to do a seminar and

2:04:08

we'll do some of it on Zoom and YouTube. We'll figure out

2:04:10

how to do the piece. I built this studio, 25,000 square feet

2:04:12

with 20 foot high LED screens, 0.67, highest resolution. In

2:04:17

your home, yeah? No, not in my home. I have

2:04:19

some things in my home too. This is a separate

2:04:21

studio I built. And I said, I'm going to build

2:04:23

the studio and I went to the guys who founded

2:04:25

Zoom and I said, I need more than

2:04:27

a thousand people. I need 25,000 people. And

2:04:30

I built some software so that when people, instead

2:04:32

of clapping, they just shake their phone, it sends

2:04:34

an electric signal. So if one person does it,

2:04:36

you don't hear anything, but when 20,000 people do

2:04:38

it, it's like thunder. And

2:04:40

that could bring people up larger than life and interact with

2:04:42

them. But I never thought it'd be as

2:04:44

great as it could be. Meaning I now do these

2:04:46

events where I used to do 10, 15, 20,000

2:04:49

people, now they're 40,000 people. And then I started

2:04:51

to do this free event. And last year we

2:04:53

had a million and a half people from 195

2:04:55

countries, every country in the world. So it's

2:04:58

called the Summit and it's called the

2:05:00

Time To Rise Summit. And if people want

2:05:02

to go, it's time to rise summit.com, time

2:05:04

to rise summit.com. There's no charge for it

2:05:06

whatsoever. Why though? Why is there no charge?

2:05:09

Because I just want to do something that

2:05:11

gives people some real tools right now that they don't even

2:05:13

know they can have. And a lot of people are like,

2:05:15

I don't know if I can do that. I don't want

2:05:17

to go there. Because the mind gets involved. But when you

2:05:20

get people a direct experience, you know what's true. And

2:05:22

they can do it from their home. And I'm

2:05:24

really proud because we've had people, we had a

2:05:27

guy two years ago, for example,

2:05:29

this is like how extreme it is. He never would

2:05:31

have gone to my seminars. You know why? He weighed

2:05:33

700 pounds, had not left his bed

2:05:35

for six years, couldn't get up to go to the

2:05:37

bathroom, on oxygen, told he'd never be off that the

2:05:39

rest of his life. And somebody

2:05:42

sent him the link and said, you got to see this

2:05:44

Tony Robbins guy. It's amazing. And you never will go to

2:05:46

an event. I told you about him. You

2:05:48

don't read his books, come have an experience. So he flipped

2:05:50

it up on his TV and his computer. And he watched

2:05:52

the thing and he was so moved. And I happened to

2:05:55

call on him. I didn't know what was going on. But

2:05:57

there's all these people, I call on people and do interactions.

2:06:00

and saw him in bed there. She

2:06:02

had always been naked for six years in that

2:06:04

bed. His brother died and then he hurt, injured

2:06:07

himself and he got put on medication and then

2:06:09

had all these complications, right? And

2:06:11

so I talked to him about like

2:06:13

it seems impossible, but this can be changed.

2:06:15

This little step at a time and here I'm gonna give you

2:06:17

a little assignment. Here's how we're gonna get you on the path,

2:06:19

figure out what you want. Cause when you figure out the path,

2:06:23

the first step, instead of New

2:06:25

Year's resolutions that nobody fulfills, if you wanna say,

2:06:27

I'm gonna make my year great, the first step

2:06:29

is, are you on the path? Meaning

2:06:31

you know when you feel like you're on the path

2:06:33

to accomplishing what you want, achieving what you want with

2:06:35

your body or your business or your relationship, you know.

2:06:38

And if you're not on the path, the first step is

2:06:40

getting crystal clear what you really want. Cause

2:06:43

desire, that's when something our creator

2:06:45

gives us, desire of the father,

2:06:47

desire is how every story starts.

2:06:50

If you watch a movie, the first thing you'll

2:06:52

mean is the main protagonist, you'll see, oh, they

2:06:54

wanna get rid of all the bad guys. Oh

2:06:56

no, they wanna, we come one with God. Oh

2:06:58

no, they want three perfect children. Your current gross

2:07:00

desire, most desired component is what's driving the story

2:07:02

of your life. So in the area

2:07:05

of your life you wanna improve, your body, your

2:07:07

emotional relationship, what is it you want most? That's

2:07:09

what we wanna know first. And then why do you want it?

2:07:12

Cause you can say, I want this, but if you don't

2:07:14

have enough reasons, you're not gonna

2:07:16

follow through when it gets difficult. So when you have

2:07:18

that, you're on the path. What's

2:07:21

the second step? The second step on that path is

2:07:23

you gotta find and face the truth. And

2:07:26

the truth is there's a gap between

2:07:28

where you are and where you wanna be. And

2:07:30

I used to say things like, well, I'm big

2:07:32

bone. That's why I was 38 pounds heavier. I'm

2:07:35

the same bones as I have been, right? I'm 35

2:07:37

pounds lighter. But people have these stories. So we gotta

2:07:39

figure out what stops you. And

2:07:41

so there's only five things that stop people. Fear,

2:07:44

fear of failure, fear of success, fear of not looking good, fear

2:07:46

of the unknown. That'll stop you. Or

2:07:49

maybe it's a limiting belief. You

2:07:51

develop the belief like, I've tried everything. No, you

2:07:53

haven't even tried everything, you'd be fit. But

2:07:56

once you believe that, you don't try anything anymore. Or

2:07:58

all the good ones are gone. relationship was right, you

2:08:00

know, and it's not true. But once you have a

2:08:03

belief like that, you don't even go for it anymore.

2:08:05

It's become self-fulfilling. Or the third problem might

2:08:08

be you have some other emotion that

2:08:10

gets in the way like, like, I

2:08:13

like to say stress or depression

2:08:15

or sadness or self-pity. That'll put

2:08:17

breaks on your progress and stop

2:08:20

you. Or fourthly,

2:08:22

you might be in a position where you have some

2:08:24

bad habits, right? You want to lose

2:08:26

20 pounds, but the first thing you do in the morning

2:08:28

is go to Starbucks and have a smoke a mocha, whatever

2:08:30

the hell that shit is. And you know, you're never going

2:08:33

to get there. Bad patterns. Versus I have it

2:08:35

at the first thing I do is get up and I jump in the water,

2:08:37

I workout, whatever it is. Once you make it happen, it's

2:08:39

easy. Or last one, you

2:08:41

might be missing the skill. Like

2:08:44

lots of people want to be financially free, but they

2:08:46

don't have the first clue and they don't think it's

2:08:48

possible today. It's total bullshit if anyone can do it,

2:08:50

if you follow the pattern of people to do it,

2:08:52

right? But if you don't have the skill,

2:08:54

you don't have the skill

2:08:57

to manage through a relationship challenge. You

2:08:59

have to manage your body when it's overweight. It's a skill. So

2:09:02

one of those five, you face the truth.

2:09:05

And now you go to the third step. And what

2:09:07

do you do? You come up with a massive action

2:09:09

plan, a map. That's what it stands

2:09:11

for, massive action plan. It isn't perfect. You

2:09:13

don't wait to have everything there. You

2:09:16

get enough to know what to do and you act.

2:09:18

You put the cart before the horse. You do something.

2:09:20

You get in the game. And then

2:09:22

while you do that, while you're doing that,

2:09:24

you go to the next step, which is you do

2:09:27

what's hard. You slay your dragons. You

2:09:29

push through the fear. That doesn't mean you're not fearful. It

2:09:31

means you have courage. You are scared, but you do it

2:09:34

anyway, and then you figure out how to do it, right?

2:09:36

Or you change that BS belief system that you have and

2:09:38

you have that's stopping you. You do the

2:09:40

work that's necessary. And then the last three are the

2:09:42

easy steps. Now you just have a daily practice. So

2:09:45

it's easy. You get the right rhythms. You don't have to

2:09:47

think about it. You measure

2:09:49

more often. Because like if

2:09:51

you have a business, if you don't measure, you're

2:09:53

not managing it. If you weigh yourself once a

2:09:55

year, you might discover you're 20 pounds overweight. But

2:09:57

you weigh yourself once a month. If

2:10:00

you measure your business once a week, you're not gonna

2:10:02

have bad months, you're not gonna have bad years. The

2:10:04

more you measure, the more you're in control. And the

2:10:06

last thing you do is you gotta celebrate the victory.

2:10:08

And then guess what happens? Life will give you the

2:10:10

next call from the next challenge. But there's more of

2:10:12

you now, and you're more confident

2:10:14

now, because you conquered something of

2:10:16

that nature. So what I do in these events

2:10:18

is I do three days. It's coming

2:10:20

up January 25th through the 27th. 2

2:10:23

p.m. Eastern, the people join us from all over the world and

2:10:25

every time zone. And I'm gonna take people

2:10:27

for about two and a half to three hours and

2:10:29

give them these skills that will change their energy, change

2:10:32

their momentum, shift and figure out

2:10:34

what emotions are getting in the way, put together a

2:10:36

plan for their finance, figure out what to do with

2:10:38

their relationships. There's only a few areas that really matter.

2:10:40

We're gonna hit on those for three days in a

2:10:42

row. Think of it like going to a movie, only

2:10:44

in the movies your own life. And it's the zelling

2:10:46

the comeback challenge. And as a result of it, now

2:10:48

you're also part of a community of over a million

2:10:50

people around the world all supporting each other. So I

2:10:52

started saying, oh, this guy I told you about, I

2:10:55

gotta be clear with his desires. We figured out what's

2:10:57

stopping him. We put a little map together, right?

2:11:00

And the first thing he did is he took like this, you know

2:11:02

how you hang your clothes on a, if you

2:11:04

have like a portable thing with a little really

2:11:06

light piece of metal. He just sat there

2:11:08

and did these initial pushup things, right? And

2:11:10

he graduated more and more and we set

2:11:12

up a target for him. So three months

2:11:14

later, he was off the oxygen, which they

2:11:16

said he'd never be. He got to

2:11:18

the restroom for the first time. Six

2:11:20

months later, he was in a car. He's now

2:11:23

lost two years later, 310 pounds. I

2:11:26

said, you get in the car and drive. And all of

2:11:28

a sudden do a ticket, you come to my seminar, we'll

2:11:30

walk on fire together, we'll celebrate. He came and walked on

2:11:32

fire. It's just one example. Or a woman has lost her

2:11:35

child and it's the most horrific thing you

2:11:37

can imagine, but you've got to pick it up and go

2:11:39

on to other children. Seeing

2:11:41

her turn around or seeing a guy that's struggling in

2:11:43

his business and he troubled the size of his business.

2:11:45

So it's juicy. You know, some people do that and

2:11:47

they get excited and they want to learn more from

2:11:49

me and come to seminar. So it's a great thing.

2:11:51

They can become clients, but there's no like push for

2:11:53

them to have to do anything. It's just me saying,

2:11:55

let me introduce you to what's possible. And they do

2:11:57

it once a year. It's the best carbon in the

2:12:00

world. because I got seminars in history, and I

2:12:02

got people all over the world, and personally every country, they're

2:12:04

making some kind of progress that I've gotten to contribute to.

2:12:06

So I love it. So if people want to go, they

2:12:08

can go to, we call

2:12:10

it the time to rise, because it's like time to

2:12:13

take back control, time to rise up to who you

2:12:15

really are, right? And take charge of your life. So

2:12:17

it's the time to rise dot com, excuse me, time

2:12:19

to rise summit dot com. I'm gonna put that in

2:12:21

the description, so you guys could just click that button.

2:12:25

You're walking people hand in hand

2:12:27

to follow good patterns. So

2:12:29

they can lead to a better potential. That's right.

2:12:32

I highly recommend to do this, guys. Push away. Listen,

2:12:34

if you have something on your plate right now, and

2:12:36

you truly with all of your heart feel like, yo,

2:12:38

I felt like today, this is my year, I really

2:12:40

need to do it this year, 2024. Just

2:12:44

start with this. Literally start with this, it's super

2:12:46

easy. You could do it on your laptop, you could do it on

2:12:48

your phone, you could put your earbuds. You can do it with some

2:12:50

friends, you can do it at your house, you can do it at

2:12:52

the office. You can bring some friends together and do it together if

2:12:54

you want. That's kind of fun too. It's free financially, no burden. Zero.

2:12:57

And it's something that could bring you to a place

2:12:59

where if it was a financial thing, you wouldn't see

2:13:01

it as a burden anymore. Yeah, true.

2:13:03

What else is free is chapter one in

2:13:05

your new book. Yes. Explain

2:13:08

to me why. Well, this is

2:13:10

my third financial book. I never was really,

2:13:12

I wrote personal development books in all these

2:13:14

areas and obviously focused on finance as well.

2:13:17

But in 2008, when I saw everything

2:13:19

from my barber to my billionaire friends,

2:13:22

like everybody was affected by it. The

2:13:24

world was upside down. And because

2:13:26

I worked at that time, I still do, I

2:13:28

was coaching a man named Paul Tudor Jones, one

2:13:30

of the top 10 financial traders in history. Brilliant,

2:13:33

brilliant man, incredibly good hearted man. I've

2:13:36

learned from him because I was coaching him. So I was learning along the

2:13:38

way. And I knew it was happening in 2008,

2:13:41

I knew it before it happened. And so I

2:13:43

was like, man, I wanna find a way to help

2:13:45

people. I thought by 2010,

2:13:48

the culprits would be in jail, but we took the

2:13:50

people that almost destroyed the world economy and here's their

2:13:52

punishment. We gave them more money. It was just crazy.

2:13:54

So maybe angry. So I thought, I'm just one guy,

2:13:57

what can I do? And I thought, I

2:13:59

have one. I have access because of what I

2:14:01

do. I'm going to interview

2:14:03

50 of the smartest financial people in the

2:14:06

world, the greatest investors in history, all self-made

2:14:08

billionaires, nobody from the Lucky Sperm Club,

2:14:12

nobody was given to. And I'm going to

2:14:14

find out, they're all different, I'm going to find out

2:14:16

how they went from scratch to that and

2:14:18

write this book. Well, it ended up being a 674-page

2:14:20

monster, but it was the number one New York Times

2:14:22

best seller, still the top seller in this industry for

2:14:25

the last, for this century, it's

2:14:27

only 24-year-old. Congratulations. Thank

2:14:29

you. But then, and then I wrote a second

2:14:31

book because I knew obviously there was going to be a bear market,

2:14:33

there was going to be a shift. I didn't know

2:14:35

it was going to be based on COVID, but you can predict it's

2:14:38

going to happen. I want people prepared. And then I

2:14:40

thought it was done, but I learned

2:14:42

a lot of things in that first book working with the

2:14:44

smartest people in the world. I'll give

2:14:46

your audience four of them just real fast. All

2:14:48

these people, like, they

2:14:51

all said, Tony, I wonder if the game was still winnable

2:14:53

because people, a lot of the young people especially think

2:14:56

it's not winnable. The game is rigged

2:14:58

and so forth. Well, some things are

2:15:00

rigged, but it's not completely rigged and you absolutely can

2:15:02

win the game. And I got convinced

2:15:04

of that by not what they told me, but by witnessing and learning

2:15:06

from them all. But

2:15:08

they're all different. Some are like macro investors figuring

2:15:11

out where the world's going. Some are buying for

2:15:13

value and so forth. But they had four things

2:15:15

in common that were really important. First,

2:15:17

everybody, you can't become financially free until

2:15:20

you stop being a consumer and become

2:15:22

an owner. It's really simple. Break

2:15:24

that down for me. You got an

2:15:26

Apple phone there? Yes, sir. Do you

2:15:28

own Apple stock? Nope. Why? That

2:15:31

Apple phone is depreciating. It's going to be worthless in a year

2:15:33

or two and you're going to want another one that goes away.

2:15:36

If you own the stock, it's only gone up. So

2:15:39

why wouldn't you want to own that thing where

2:15:41

your phone is making you money as an owner

2:15:43

too? Even your phone isn't everybody else's. You

2:15:46

have to think like an owner. We're a

2:15:48

society that's always consuming and that doesn't add

2:15:50

value. But if you can bring some of

2:15:52

your, a little bit of your money, you take 10% of

2:15:54

what you were and you say, I can't save it. And

2:15:56

you put an account where it's automated. You never see it.

2:16:00

You'll adjust. I give an

2:16:02

example in my book of this guy Theodore Johnson.

2:16:04

He worked for UPS in the 50s. He

2:16:07

never made more than $14,000 a year in annual income. He retired with

2:16:09

$70 million. I'm

2:16:13

sorry, what? $14,000

2:16:16

a year in income, retired with $70 million. How in

2:16:18

the hell is that possible? Easy. He robbed the bank.

2:16:20

No, he didn't do any of those things. All he

2:16:22

did is he had a friend that came by and

2:16:24

said, I'm going to make you a wealthy man. He

2:16:26

goes, I'll never be a wealthy man. He goes, no, we're

2:16:29

going to take care of your future self and future

2:16:31

family forever. And here's how we're going to do it.

2:16:33

We're going to take 20%. He goes, what do you

2:16:35

want? We're going to take 20% off top. You're never

2:16:37

going to see it. We're going to put it in

2:16:39

a separate account. That'll be for investment. He goes, I

2:16:41

can't live on $14,000. He goes, you will

2:16:43

adjust. I promise you. He goes, I can't do it.

2:16:46

He goes, if the government raised your taxes 20%, would

2:16:48

you pay it? He goes, I'd scream and

2:16:50

yell, but yeah, I'd pay it. He goes, well, this is

2:16:52

a tax for you for the future, not

2:16:54

for the government. And they did it and

2:16:57

they put it in stock. Most of it was UPS and

2:17:00

the value of it went to 70. He had

2:17:02

$35 million away while he was still alive. And

2:17:04

then after he died, they gave away the other

2:17:06

35 million, never made more than 14 grand. It

2:17:09

was a really good guy, nice guy, but he became

2:17:11

an owner. So people don't understand if you

2:17:13

have a kid and they're 19 years old,

2:17:16

everybody hears about compounded growth, but they don't get

2:17:18

it. Come on. I grow up. There's the most

2:17:20

powerful thing. Well, you think, Oh, I'm going to

2:17:22

get rich by making a fortune. You

2:17:24

know how many actors, you know, many movie

2:17:27

stars, you know, many singers, you know, many,

2:17:29

you know, athletes who made millions of dollars

2:17:31

a year that are totally broke right now.

2:17:33

I know them by their name. We

2:17:36

call them right now because what happened was they

2:17:38

thought that's how you get wealthy. We get wealthy

2:17:40

is you don't need a lot of money. You

2:17:42

need a little bit of money that consistently goes

2:17:44

to work for you while you're sleeping. And

2:17:47

the first discipline is getting in the game. Then,

2:17:50

okay, how do I know if I'm going to

2:17:52

build a money machine? I'm right now I'm a

2:17:54

machine. People, I Tell people, you're a financial trader.

2:17:56

You may not call it that, but you're trading

2:17:58

your time for money. That's a terrible. Trade

2:18:00

because the one thing and get more of his

2:18:02

time. but you gotta do that would be getting.

2:18:04

See. Take a little the what you.you start

2:18:07

to put miss blue money machine were you

2:18:09

build it up and invested in after while

2:18:11

the money you map be income. From.

2:18:13

That money. Is. More than you get

2:18:15

for work. So. Now you'll have

2:18:17

to work. By the way to go is not

2:18:19

not to work As if you don't work you'll

2:18:22

be miserable. You gotta be something but the ghosts

2:18:24

and I have to work. When you walk different,

2:18:26

you talk do I was afraid eyebrow but I

2:18:28

want a work in a different feeling and you

2:18:30

move differently. If everything is different see want to

2:18:32

go That money Mrs How do you do that?

2:18:34

You take a percentage automated where's that money going

2:18:36

to go and one of the principal soggy be

2:18:38

former facile answer to. The. Number

2:18:40

one difference between the wealthiest people the

2:18:42

world and average person's average person will

2:18:45

make more money, harrowing for more money

2:18:47

and their newborn focuses on our to

2:18:49

lose it. And I my sounds

2:18:51

ridiculous. Go on. How much. But. What

2:18:53

they mean is. They know if

2:18:55

I invest in something because I'm excited about this

2:18:58

every pocket about it and it drops fifty percent.

2:19:00

It's completely up in the stock for some years

2:19:02

and real stayed with me. If

2:19:04

that happens, Honest? percent?

2:19:07

A hundred percent. So.

2:19:10

It's nice to say you know where

2:19:12

buffets has a rule says rule number

2:19:14

one.lose money Rule number two. Serial number

2:19:16

once a hilarious but everybody is gonna

2:19:18

lose money at times the way they

2:19:20

keep from losing money as the second

2:19:23

principle which sounds big but it's really

2:19:25

simple because asset allocation It simply means

2:19:27

that if you wanna of one dollars

2:19:29

or thousand dollars a million dollars one

2:19:31

hundred million dollars to invest. The.

2:19:33

Most important decision is Matt was going to

2:19:35

put out an apple or piece of real

2:19:37

estate. The most important decision is how are

2:19:39

you going to consistently invest your money? There's

2:19:41

two buckets you put your money on. Some

2:19:44

of that money's going to go to places

2:19:46

low risk, Because. it's low

2:19:48

risk it doesn't have a higher returns so

2:19:50

it takes longer to get we want to

2:19:52

go but it's like a turtle them have

2:19:54

people get their the other bucket is the

2:19:56

risk bucket that stuff like spock spot things

2:19:59

the cat bonds my go for For example,

2:20:01

insurance, some secure investments

2:20:03

where you're guaranteed a return, it's

2:20:06

a low return. They go in that first

2:20:08

bucket. The second bucket is like the church

2:20:10

one. That's your people at your home. The

2:20:13

risk one is, okay, this might be stocks. This

2:20:17

might be real estate. This might be anything that

2:20:19

can go up but it also can go down.

2:20:21

So there's risk there. What

2:20:24

percentage of that money, whether it's $1,000 or 10

2:20:26

million, is

2:20:28

gonna go in the secure bucket versus

2:20:30

the risk bucket. That's what

2:20:32

you have to decide and it's affected by a

2:20:35

couple things. When do you need

2:20:37

the money? If you're 20 or 30 years old, you

2:20:39

have tons of time to make up but if you make mistakes,

2:20:41

so you can take more risk. If

2:20:44

you're 60, even though you want

2:20:46

one more money, you're gonna have to have more in your

2:20:48

security bucket because if you lose it this time, there's no

2:20:50

time to make up for it. Another

2:20:52

thing that affects it is how do you deal

2:20:54

with risk? Some people take risks,

2:20:56

no problem. Most people think they will but

2:20:59

they really aren't. But if you get stressed out, that affects

2:21:01

it. Another one is how much cashflow do you have? If

2:21:04

every dollar you make you're spending, you

2:21:07

don't have a lot of cashflow, you're gonna have to look at

2:21:09

the balance differently because you're taking as many risks. If you've gotten

2:21:11

more money than you need a little bit, you

2:21:13

might be able to take more risks. So you decide, is it 50-50? Is

2:21:16

it 70-30? Is it 80-20? Depending on

2:21:18

those. Really important. That's how they

2:21:20

keep from losing because they don't put everything at risk

2:21:22

in a major way. If you don't mind

2:21:25

me asking, the first bucket where you said it's not that much of

2:21:27

a risk, what is it

2:21:29

that, what could you invest that doesn't have risk?

2:21:32

Everything has risk. It just has a lot

2:21:34

less. Less risk. Okay, like bonds. Bonds. Where

2:21:36

it's backed by the government. Okay, okay, okay, sorry. Because in my mind,

2:21:38

I'm like, my man, do you know something that I don't know? Because

2:21:41

all my money's going in that. I am the turtle. I

2:21:43

am slow but steady. But

2:21:46

if only slow and steady, you don't take any risk, it'll

2:21:48

take you a long time. So it's this balance, right? Of

2:21:50

course. So at 31, your numbers are gonna be different than

2:21:53

somebody at 61, let's say. So

2:21:56

you don't lose money by having the right asset allocation.

2:21:58

And the third one is much more interesting. Most

2:22:01

people think that people that are billionaires,

2:22:03

they took these giant risks and they

2:22:06

won. And rarely

2:22:08

is that true. Those billionaires don't stay billionaires

2:22:10

usually. The best

2:22:12

in the world, I'll practice another big word, it's

2:22:14

called asymmetrical risk reward. Simple

2:22:17

concept, big words. It just simply

2:22:19

means they try to take the least amount of risk humanly

2:22:22

possible with the most upside. So

2:22:25

I'll give you an example. I coached Paul Tudor

2:22:27

Jones for all these years, and when he was at his best, he was

2:22:29

having challenges, and I learned when he was doing his best, I got him

2:22:31

to do it again. He wouldn't make

2:22:33

an investment. He'd risk

2:22:35

a dollar if he thought the investment would

2:22:37

be worth five. And he

2:22:39

was certain. I might be wrong. If he's wrong,

2:22:41

he can risk another dollar, still make four. He could be wrong

2:22:44

four times out of five and still be okay. And catch

2:22:46

up, yeah. But if you're trying

2:22:48

to make 10% or 20%, and you're wrong, you're

2:22:51

going deeper and deeper in the hole. So you can't

2:22:53

always find asymmetrical risk reward, but when you can, it's

2:22:55

amazing. I'll give you a perfect example. I

2:22:58

interviewed this guy, Kyle Bass. We're here in Texas right now. He lives

2:23:00

here. Kyle, in

2:23:02

2008, the worst economic time in

2:23:04

80 years, he turned

2:23:07

$30 million into $2 billion in less than two

2:23:09

years. How'd

2:23:13

he do it? He did asymmetrical

2:23:15

risk reward. He figured out that

2:23:17

real estate that everybody thought was going

2:23:19

to keep going up, he figured, no, no, we're hitting

2:23:22

the edge, and he found a way to invest

2:23:24

where his risk level was so low, because everybody thought

2:23:26

this is going to go on forever, that

2:23:28

he could be wrong 13 times and

2:23:31

still make money. Well, he wasn't wrong 13 times

2:23:33

since he made $2 billion. And I

2:23:35

said, how would you explain this to someone

2:23:37

who's not financially? They've not spent

2:23:40

time in the financial world. He goes, I can't believe you're saying this.

2:23:42

I've been thinking about how to teach this to my kids. So

2:23:45

he said, I came up with an idea, and I've not executed it. You

2:23:47

couldn't be asking me this at a better time. I said, well, what'd

2:23:49

you do? He said, I took my kids, and I said, here's what

2:23:52

we're going to do. We want to have

2:23:54

the least risk with the most upside. So he said,

2:23:56

I spent almost a year asking one question. Where's

2:23:58

their investment? You'll like this. is there an

2:24:00

investment in the world where there's no downside and

2:24:03

I'm guaranteed a significant upside from the very first day?

2:24:05

Now most people would say, you're stupid, you're an idiot

2:24:07

to ask that question, there's no such thing. Any

2:24:10

sophisticated person would say that. But he's very sophisticated and

2:24:12

he said, I ask questions no one else asks, that's why

2:24:15

I get answers no one else gets. And

2:24:17

after almost a year he figured it out, he goes, nickels.

2:24:21

I said, nickels? He said, yes,

2:24:24

I'm going to buy millions of dollars worth

2:24:26

of nickels and show my kids what I

2:24:28

mean. I said, explain. He

2:24:30

goes, Tony, a nickel's worth a nickel.

2:24:32

When I invest it, it'll never be worth less than

2:24:34

a nickel. I said, okay.

2:24:36

He goes, it costs 11 cents for the government to

2:24:39

make a nickel. That's how screwed up our government is.

2:24:42

He said pennies used to be made of copper. There's

2:24:44

almost no copper anymore. Because

2:24:46

it costs more for the copper than the penny. So

2:24:49

they've been doing this for years, they're going to have to adjust the nickels. If

2:24:52

you buy pennies that were still copper, regardless

2:24:54

of the copper content, they're worth 100% more than

2:24:56

they were before or 300% more than they were

2:24:58

before. He

2:25:01

goes, the melt value of

2:25:03

nickel, if I just melted them, he

2:25:07

said I make a 30% return on that

2:25:09

moment. I said, but you can't melt money. It's illegal. He

2:25:11

goes, yeah, I know that's what they say. He said, but

2:25:13

I don't need- How do you make that 2 billion, my

2:25:15

man? He goes, let me explain something to you.

2:25:17

I don't have to melt it. He

2:25:19

said, because the minute they make that

2:25:21

change, he said the value of

2:25:24

my nickels that are old nickels will go through

2:25:26

the roof. It won't be 30%. So

2:25:28

he said, on day one, they're already worth 30% more. I

2:25:31

made a 30% return and I can never lose money

2:25:33

because they're always worth a nickel. He literally went to

2:25:36

the Federal Reserve and tried to buy as many nickels

2:25:38

as he could. I can't remember how many millions of

2:25:40

nickels he bought. He took his kids with a truck

2:25:42

full of nickels and then he loaded up his big

2:25:45

storage facility with all these nickels. And he goes, if

2:25:47

I could push one button and take all my money

2:25:49

into nickels, I'd do it tomorrow. Where else are you

2:25:51

going to get a 30% return and have no

2:25:53

downside ever? I'll stay symmetrical and I'll

2:25:55

give you one more quick example. He's

2:26:00

like, he's in the vehicles. Who

2:26:05

the fuck even finds that out, bro? How

2:26:07

did he find out that? Because he asked the right

2:26:09

questions. Okay, fair enough. He did questions, do answers, right?

2:26:12

I always tell people better questions, give the better answers,

2:26:14

right? But I'll give you one more example. Richard Branson,

2:26:16

I know Richard, and he's an

2:26:18

amazing guy and he's a go-getter guy. And most

2:26:20

people look at Richard and go, this guy's a

2:26:22

giant risk taker. He is with his life, not

2:26:24

with his investments. He'll get on a

2:26:26

plane to train a helicopter, a balloon. He'll go

2:26:28

to space and take risks of his life. But

2:26:31

whenever he does the investment, he's like, whoa, what's

2:26:33

the downside? How do we

2:26:35

protect against the downside? So I'll give you a perfect

2:26:37

example of how brilliant he is, why he's so successful.

2:26:40

Asymmetrical risk reward. He decides he's

2:26:42

gonna compete with British Airways. He's

2:26:44

gonna start an airway from scratch and compete

2:26:46

with British Airways, this giant government-driven

2:26:49

company. He's gotta

2:26:51

buy all these Boeing jets, hundreds

2:26:53

of millions of dollars of jets. What

2:26:56

if he fails? He'll lose

2:26:58

everything he's ever earned. So guess what

2:27:00

he did? He negotiated with Boeing for over a

2:27:02

year till he got them to

2:27:04

agree that he'd buy all these planes, but

2:27:07

after a year, if he wasn't profitable, he

2:27:09

could give all the planes back with no

2:27:11

cost to him, no loss to him

2:27:13

and no loss to his credit. So guess

2:27:16

how unstressed he is going to build

2:27:18

that business? No downside, only upside,

2:27:20

and he built Virgin Air that way. So

2:27:23

it's a really amazing way of looking at things. It's

2:27:25

not always easy. So the question you're gonna be asking

2:27:27

yourself is like, okay, is there

2:27:29

a magic asset allocation formula that the most successful

2:27:31

people use? And the answer is yes. That's

2:27:34

what I taught in this book, like the Holy

2:27:36

Grail of investing. And the second question you might

2:27:39

ask is, okay, is there a way I

2:27:41

can get more asymmetrical risk reward? The answer

2:27:43

is yes. The fourth thing they all

2:27:45

talk about, by the way, is diversification. And can

2:27:47

I get diversified because it's the only free lunch?

2:27:50

Meaning you want to diversify different, you

2:27:52

don't want everything in Apple or everything

2:27:54

in stocks or everything in bonds or

2:27:56

everything in one piece of real estate.

2:27:58

You need diversification because all assets. At

2:28:00

some point, Ray Dalio, the smartest

2:28:03

and the most successful hedge fund manager in

2:28:05

history, he manages $195 billion. He

2:28:08

told me once when I first met him, he said, Tony, whatever

2:28:11

you love as an investment, say

2:28:13

you grew up and your family flipped houses, you were really

2:28:16

poor, you fixed them a little and got

2:28:18

the rats out and cleaned up. You

2:28:20

want to do real estate the rest of your life. Or

2:28:22

someone gave you a stock when you were a kid, a stock

2:28:25

of IBM and it grew, and so you got hooked on

2:28:27

doing stocks. Whatever it is that you like, someday

2:28:30

that asset that's always done well for you is

2:28:32

going to lose 50 to 70 percent like that.

2:28:35

Every asset class has done it. He said,

2:28:37

so that's why you have to diversify. You can't get caught up

2:28:39

in only what you know. So those

2:28:42

four were pretty amazing. While

2:28:45

I was writing that second book, and I was going through

2:28:47

all this with these guys, which is why I wrote this

2:28:49

final book, is I talked to

2:28:51

Ray Dalio. This guy, he

2:28:53

manages China's money. I mean, this

2:28:55

is not biggie. This is unbelievable. In

2:28:58

2008, I forget what the drop was, he was 34 percent or

2:29:00

36 percent drop in the market. He was

2:29:02

up 8 percent. I mean, he was just like so

2:29:04

smart, it's unbelievable, right? He called the whole

2:29:06

thing in advance. So Ray's become

2:29:08

a friend. And in the early days, when we first met 12,

2:29:11

13 years ago, I said, okay, after I prepared

2:29:13

for an interview with him for like 12 hours for what was supposed

2:29:15

to be a half hour interview, it was like, what have we done

2:29:17

here? I don't know how many hours have we been here, but it

2:29:19

was like three hours, right? Oh, two and a half. I've

2:29:22

been wanting to be for like 30. I'm like, I'm

2:29:24

not getting up. I'll pee in my pants right here.

2:29:27

I'll finish the volume. But

2:29:30

the interesting thing was, we pitched and

2:29:32

catch because I really understood, right? So we enjoyed that. Like

2:29:34

you and I talk and there's this connection, right? So

2:29:37

after that time, my last question was like, okay, everything

2:29:39

you taught me and shared with me, if

2:29:42

there's one principle that would

2:29:44

be the most important principle investing that you've

2:29:46

learned in 40 years of investing, it's made

2:29:48

you successful, what is the single

2:29:50

most important principle? And he said, Tony, I

2:29:53

have struggled for 12 years to answer the

2:29:55

question for myself. I

2:29:57

have the answer. I call it the holy grail of

2:29:59

investing. title of the book because it's from

2:30:01

him. Oh, nice. Yeah. And I

2:30:03

said, I'm leaning forward. Okay, what is it? And so I explained,

2:30:05

he said, Tony in order

2:30:08

for, so many people are behind. Like a lot of

2:30:10

your listeners or viewers are probably not where

2:30:12

they want to be financially or they don't have a plan even,

2:30:14

or they're on the plan, but it's not going as fast as

2:30:16

they want. Right? Yeah.

2:30:19

The only way to get your goals faster besides putting more money in

2:30:21

investments is get better returns. Well,

2:30:24

to get better returns, you got to take more what? Risks.

2:30:26

And if you have a risk, you can then lose

2:30:28

what you got and could be backwards. You lose it

2:30:30

all. And that's usually what happens to people. He said,

2:30:32

so the secret to all of this, like why do

2:30:34

you have asset allocation? Why do you

2:30:36

try to asymmetrical reward? You're trying to have the

2:30:39

least risk possible with the most upside. I

2:30:41

discovered a mathematical formula that I use and it

2:30:44

works like clockwork. He told me right there. He

2:30:47

said, if you can find eight to 12

2:30:50

uncorrelated investments, or what does

2:30:52

uncorrelated mean? Not connected. Right?

2:30:55

So investments, like if you buy technology stocks, they all

2:30:57

tend to move up and move down pretty much the

2:30:59

same. Some of you do all the better, but they

2:31:01

do it pretty much in unison. They're correlated. If

2:31:04

you think about when the market's going well and the

2:31:06

economy's going well, people want to invest in stocks because

2:31:08

they tend to grow. When it's not going well, they

2:31:10

tend to want to have bonds because they're more safe

2:31:13

and they're going to protect them during that time because

2:31:15

they're not usually correlated. Well, they

2:31:17

aren't usually, but in 2020, they both went down. In

2:31:20

2008, they both went down. Right? And

2:31:23

if you go to your broker, they go, I don't know. I

2:31:25

mean, they're never correlated. Yes, they are. They're always correlated this way.

2:31:27

That's a deeper discussion that Ray explained to me how. But he

2:31:29

goes, here's the secret. If

2:31:32

you can find eight to 12 things you really believe in,

2:31:34

you think are good, and they're not

2:31:36

correlated or are weakly correlated, you

2:31:39

can reduce your risk 80%

2:31:41

and potentially increase your upside, but

2:31:43

have the same upside. He goes, now

2:31:46

you can go faster. And

2:31:48

I was like, wow. And

2:31:50

I said, really? He goes, really? She showed me

2:31:53

the math. Why? Because that

2:31:55

other goes down. No, it's the fact that they're

2:31:57

not correlated. If you only have one investment

2:31:59

and it has a a certain amount of return in

2:32:01

risk, you're at high risk. But as you get

2:32:03

more and more investments at that level and they're

2:32:05

not tied together, if one goes down, another one

2:32:08

tends to go up. It gives you that balance.

2:32:10

I'm oversimplifying it. But why is it 80%? I

2:32:12

explained the book. You had to look at the math. Not everybody

2:32:14

wants to go to the math. All they need to know is to get the book.

2:32:16

No, I'm not going for that reason. No, no, no, no. By

2:32:18

the way, the book, 100% of the book, like

2:32:20

all four of my last books, all number one best

2:32:23

owners, I give them 100% of the money to Feeding America. This

2:32:27

one's true too. I don't make any money off

2:32:29

the book. Well, you're helping yourself. You're helping people

2:32:31

that are starving. Anyway, long story short, you

2:32:34

don't know everything about how you carve it, you know how to drive

2:32:36

it. But

2:32:38

here's the problem. I'm like, wow, this is brilliant. So

2:32:41

I'm not trying to find uncorrelated

2:32:43

investments, eight to 12, and it's not easy.

2:32:45

The world is so tied together today. And

2:32:48

so I was getting a little frustrated and I

2:32:50

started saying, okay, I know why I'm frustrated because

2:32:52

I'm only looking at public stocks. I'm

2:32:54

looking at bonds. I'm looking at public

2:32:56

real estate like REITs. But

2:32:59

the guys that make the most money on earth

2:33:02

and do it faster are the people who do

2:33:04

private equity, private credit,

2:33:06

and private real estate. But

2:33:08

that's not most people's investments. So

2:33:11

I went on the journey to start digging underneath there and

2:33:13

I found a couple of things that blew my mind. Here's

2:33:15

the first one. For the last 35 years,

2:33:19

private equity has done better than every stock

2:33:21

market in the world for 35 years. I'll

2:33:24

give you one example. People

2:33:26

in America usually have heard of the S&P 500. It's

2:33:29

an index of the top 500 companies. It's

2:33:31

a very safe thing to put your money in because... Yeah,

2:33:34

because you got some of the best companies picked. However, and

2:33:36

it's been a great investment over the last 35 years, overall,

2:33:40

it's averaged a 9.2%

2:33:42

compounded return, which means not every year, but

2:33:44

that's the average. And that means

2:33:46

if you're getting a 5% return, it takes 14.5

2:33:48

years to get your money to double. If

2:33:51

you're getting a 9% return, it only takes

2:33:53

eight years. So your lifetime,

2:33:55

you're going to grow much more rapidly. But

2:33:57

during that same time, if you were... basic

2:34:00

private equity. In this book I interviewed 13 of

2:34:04

the biggest players in the world who have the

2:34:06

greatest returns. In other words, these guys have all

2:34:08

averaged 20% or more per year for decades. One

2:34:10

guy in this group has done 36%

2:34:14

compounded per year for 26 years. These

2:34:16

are gigantic, these

2:34:19

are the masters of the universe. If you go

2:34:21

to the Fortune 400, you say, what industry has

2:34:23

the most billionaires? People tell me it's tech, it's

2:34:25

not tech, real estate, it's not real estate, it's

2:34:28

financial services but it's not hedge funds. It's

2:34:30

private equity. Here's why. Private

2:34:33

equity is average private equity, not these

2:34:35

guys, is average 14.2%. What

2:34:38

does that mean? So there are a lot of numbers here. I'll make it

2:34:40

simple for it. It means you're getting 50% greater

2:34:43

returns every year compounded. So

2:34:47

what that means is if you put a million dollars in the

2:34:49

S&P 500, say 35 years ago and

2:34:52

forgot about it, it's worth 26 million dollars today

2:34:54

without you doing anything. But if

2:34:56

you took the same million dollars and put it in private

2:34:58

equity, it's worth 139

2:35:01

million dollars. It's the

2:35:03

same time, it's the same money but

2:35:05

such a rad... And so when I

2:35:07

told you about asset allocation, the

2:35:10

current numbers show that ultra high

2:35:12

net worth people have 46% of

2:35:14

their money in private equity, private

2:35:16

assets, private credit. They only have 29%

2:35:19

in the public markets. And there's a reason. There used to be

2:35:21

8,000 stocks, different companies,

2:35:24

now there's 37% in the

2:35:26

same number of people going after them. And

2:35:29

in the Russell, you know, Russell, you got

2:35:31

50% of that index that doesn't make money.

2:35:33

They're betting on the future for it's gonna

2:35:36

go. These guys are not trying to

2:35:38

buy a stock at the right time. Think

2:35:40

about this. The majority of

2:35:42

businesses in the world and

2:35:45

in this country that are a hundred million

2:35:47

or more are private, right?

2:35:49

You're talking about, you know,

2:35:51

the middle market, just companies that are a hundred million

2:35:53

to three billion is 200,000 companies, not 3,700. So they

2:35:55

go find these companies. And

2:36:00

their genius is at adding value. They take a company and

2:36:02

go, we're going to grow this, a bad part of it.

2:36:04

We're going to grow this business. We're going to put in

2:36:06

a new CEO or we're going to put in a new

2:36:08

marketing system. We're going to put in new technology or AI

2:36:11

or we're going to change the accounting system. And

2:36:13

they're experts at growing these businesses. They grow them

2:36:15

in the way you make money in the business.

2:36:17

You sell it for a multiple of its earnings

2:36:19

or its revenues and they sell it to a

2:36:21

bigger company or they take it public. Their

2:36:23

track record is insane. The

2:36:25

returns, that's why the smart

2:36:27

money has a good portion of the money here, not

2:36:30

all because you still need liquidity. The advantage these private

2:36:32

equity people have is if you give them sooner money,

2:36:35

they tie it up for five years and

2:36:37

you're willing to do it because you're getting so much better return.

2:36:40

Yeah. So you don't put all your money there

2:36:42

obviously. But that

2:36:44

also allows them with the market goes down, they

2:36:47

buy stuff, they don't have to sell. They're

2:36:49

not tied to the ups and downs. And

2:36:51

if it's going really well, they can sell.

2:36:53

And they have time to develop these companies

2:36:55

and make it happen. So their track record

2:36:57

is mind boggling. So the only

2:36:59

problem is to get into these

2:37:02

best firms is like

2:37:04

trying to buy a Ferrari

2:37:06

SP3 that's $4 million before

2:37:10

they even bring it out, they're all pre-sold. It's hard

2:37:13

to get your hands on. You can't get, you go to

2:37:15

a club and there's the velvet rope and you can't have

2:37:17

all the money in the world. But if you don't know

2:37:19

the right people and you're not attractive enough, you're not getting

2:37:21

in that club. That's just how it works. So how do

2:37:23

the people that are getting your book get into the relationship

2:37:25

that you have? I can show you, it's pretty exciting. So

2:37:29

even I had difficulty and I have got a

2:37:31

certain reputation and certain brands. So I would get

2:37:33

into some of these, but I get these little

2:37:35

pieces because everybody wants it. Right? It's gone. It's

2:37:37

pre-sold. So one day

2:37:39

I'm sitting down with one of Paul Tudor Jones's former

2:37:42

partners, a good friend of mine. He's very wealthy, brilliant

2:37:44

guy. And I was lamenting

2:37:46

on, man, you know, private equity is so

2:37:48

great, but so hard to give him

2:37:50

the best ones. And I got in, but little

2:37:53

chunks, not the volume I'd want to be in for

2:37:55

and get the kind of returns. And

2:37:57

he says, Tony, you've done so much of my life. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

2:38:00

you into something. He said I'll tell you where I put most

2:38:02

of my money. This guy's brilliant. So

2:38:04

I'm leaning in again. Yeah, I just leaned in. I don't know if

2:38:06

you saw that, but I leaned in because I was like, shit,

2:38:09

dog. I got some money I want to invest in. So

2:38:12

I said, what is it? He goes, Tony, there's

2:38:14

this firm in Houston, Texas. That's why I'm here

2:38:16

for this meeting. And he said,

2:38:18

Houston, Texas, because usually when somebody's talking

2:38:20

finance, they go Singapore, London, Connecticut, New

2:38:22

York, right, Texas. He goes, yeah, these

2:38:24

guys are off the beaten path, but

2:38:26

they've done something amazing. I said, what is

2:38:28

it? You know, you're trying to get

2:38:30

into invest in one of those funds. The

2:38:33

company that owns those funds have multiple funds. They've done

2:38:35

years in the past. They keep building these funds. You

2:38:38

just try to get in one. And when you

2:38:40

invest in a fund like that, they call

2:38:42

you a limited partner. That's the name they use for

2:38:44

investors. If you're an owner of

2:38:46

the firm, you're the general partner. He

2:38:49

goes, what if I told you that

2:38:51

you don't have to get in the funds, that I've

2:38:53

got a way you could get in and own a

2:38:56

piece of the firms and

2:38:58

get everything they make off of it and

2:39:00

get all the funds? I

2:39:03

said, what? He goes, yes, you can

2:39:05

buy a slice of them if you know the right people in

2:39:07

the right way. I said, you got to

2:39:09

clue me in. He goes, here's the best part. What

2:39:12

do you want in a business? If you have a business,

2:39:14

you want income. You want income you can count on. You

2:39:16

know, these guys make money. Why they're

2:39:18

the master's universe, the most billionaires of any

2:39:21

categories, these guys, they

2:39:23

tie your money in for five years. They charge you 2%

2:39:26

of your money every year, no matter what, whether

2:39:28

they make you money or not. But people won't want

2:39:30

to do it because they make them

2:39:32

use it a lot more than that, right? So

2:39:34

they're guaranteed. If they have a billion dollar fund,

2:39:36

they're guaranteed a hundred million dollars in predictable income

2:39:38

for the next five years. Plus

2:39:40

they get 20% of what they

2:39:43

do on the upside. So if they

2:39:45

grow their fund from a billion to 2 billion,

2:39:47

they're going to get 20% of

2:39:49

that second billion. They make another $200 million,

2:39:51

a hundred million in fees, $200

2:39:53

million for the growth. And that's not uncommon. They

2:39:55

make $300 million on a billion dollars. Now

2:39:59

these firms value the are 20

2:40:01

billion, 30 billion, 100 billion dollar

2:40:03

firms and they're producing returns that

2:40:05

are just ridiculous and have done it decade after

2:40:08

decade. I own those firms now,

2:40:10

I own a piece of them. I

2:40:12

get the two and 20 myself, besides

2:40:15

being in those firms. So I get diversification

2:40:17

from all the best firms out there. They're

2:40:19

in different industries, like one guy's specialty is

2:40:21

SaaS for business, right? You know, software as

2:40:24

a service, he knows that business better than

2:40:26

anybody's name's Robert Smith, it's a company called

2:40:28

Vista. 100

2:40:30

billion dollar fund, man started

2:40:33

with absolutely nothing, one of the most successful human beings

2:40:35

in business in the world, one of the smartest human

2:40:37

beings. He knows how to take anybody in that business

2:40:39

and he's got a system, he grows it, expands it,

2:40:42

builds it up, sells it for a huge return, goes

2:40:44

to the next one. Some do it

2:40:46

with the government, around technology. Some

2:40:48

do it in, let's say, water. Some

2:40:51

do it in real estate. Some do it with private

2:40:53

credit. So I

2:40:55

have 65 firms now of the biggest

2:40:57

in the world that I own a piece of each of them and

2:41:00

I get two and 20 in all those. So I have

2:41:02

a cashflow of about 10%, it can go

2:41:04

seven to 10% and I

2:41:06

got giant upside as the assets grow as well.

2:41:08

It's one of my favorite investments on earth. I'll

2:41:11

tell you another one they've got. Do you need to have a

2:41:13

lot of liquid to do something? Well, I left out, I'm so

2:41:15

glad you asked that. So the

2:41:18

biggest problem why I didn't write the book initially, even after

2:41:21

I figured this out, is like I can

2:41:23

help my wealthy friends, but what about the average person?

2:41:26

The government has this weird thing where

2:41:28

they literally regulate so that only wealthy

2:41:30

people have the very best opportunities. And

2:41:33

the way they do that is they have classifications

2:41:35

of your level of sophistication and they base it

2:41:38

on something arbitrary, how much

2:41:40

income or net worth you have. You

2:41:42

could inherit money, it doesn't

2:41:44

mean you're a sophisticated investor. You could

2:41:47

be good at business and sell a business doesn't

2:41:49

mean you're a sophisticated investor, but they call you

2:41:51

an accredited investor and you can only use investments,

2:41:53

some of them, if you're an accredited investor, which

2:41:56

means you have a million dollar net worth not

2:41:58

counting your house. and or

2:42:00

you make $200,000 a year, okay? Then

2:42:03

you're qualified, guess what

2:42:05

they did? And there's a level above that called qualified

2:42:07

purchaser. You have to have $5 million and

2:42:10

that you can count your business but not your home.

2:42:14

But and they are at different levels. So there's

2:42:16

these arbitrary things where the best opportunities the average person can

2:42:18

do. So here's where I wrote the book. Congress

2:42:21

just passed the law, the House just passed the law

2:42:23

where they agreed, this is stupid. Everybody

2:42:26

should have access as long as they know what they're getting

2:42:28

into. So they're creating it, the House

2:42:30

passed it, Senate is taking it up, it was bipartisan. So

2:42:32

it's already been passed on one. It looks like it only

2:42:34

passed on the other. You'll be able to take

2:42:37

a test and after you take the

2:42:39

test, you're an accredited investor. You don't need a million dollar net worth.

2:42:41

You don't make $200,000 a year. Now you've

2:42:43

got access to these things. Pretty

2:42:45

wild. It's always should have been. That's actually crazy that

2:42:47

the timing of this, the timing of the guy who's

2:42:50

trying to teach his son, the

2:42:52

time, ah, my man. I was always

2:42:54

prepped, I was teeing you up for

2:42:56

it. I was teeing you up for

2:42:58

it. I know. This is incredible. In

2:43:01

fact, that book is mine now. I'm picking it up. Yeah,

2:43:03

you won't be able to put it down because

2:43:06

it's easy to read. The first half of the book, I

2:43:08

give you all these different industries. So let me give you

2:43:10

another one. Like a lot of

2:43:12

people, they want to have bonds for security. So

2:43:14

think about it. Bonds have been worthless

2:43:17

in terms of a return for decades, right?

2:43:19

Yeah. 2021, just a

2:43:21

few years ago, you're getting one

2:43:23

in 2% on the bonds, right? But

2:43:25

one set of bonds took off for a while

2:43:27

and it was junk bonds. They call them high

2:43:29

yield bonds, they're junk bonds. It means the companies

2:43:32

are really risky and they were paying only

2:43:34

3.9%, but compared

2:43:36

to one or 2%, that sounded like

2:43:38

a lot. And the bond market for

2:43:40

junk bonds exploded and then

2:43:42

it crashed, of course. While

2:43:45

they were doing that, we got

2:43:47

private credit. Now, what

2:43:49

is private credit? Well, since 2008, the

2:43:51

banks changed their running rules. Companies

2:43:54

that are 100 million to 3 billion, those

2:43:57

middle market companies, they can't get money,

2:43:59

the loans. they want. If you're, you know, you're

2:44:01

Apple, you can get the loan. You know, you need it at Apple,

2:44:03

right? But you're those companies, which is

2:44:05

most of the market. 200,000 companies here.

2:44:08

They need money to survive. So these

2:44:10

private equity guys who are really smart

2:44:12

said, we'll be your bank. We'll

2:44:14

own your money, but they vet them really well. They

2:44:17

have a 1% failure rate across on

2:44:19

average. Any bank would die for that. And

2:44:21

they stay with these people and keep loaning

2:44:24

to them. Never watch this. When people are

2:44:26

being in 3.9 and taking huge risks, I

2:44:28

was getting 9% on private credit with

2:44:31

less risk, just because I knew what

2:44:33

it is. And now I own those firms and

2:44:36

we own those firms, our teams. So we

2:44:38

get the 2 and 20 on those. And by the way,

2:44:40

if you had a mortgage and

2:44:42

it was a fixed rate mortgage at 3% and

2:44:44

the interest rates jumped to seven, you're pretty happy

2:44:47

camper. You did that. You know,

2:44:49

my dad, follow me on that. I was like, dad, everybody's just doing

2:44:51

it right now. And he goes shut up. Like he's like, shut up.

2:44:53

And literally, I swear to God, when everything skyrocketed, I,

2:44:55

Tony, I wouldn't be able to afford my house. Well,

2:44:57

if you tripled them out, you're paying right now. I

2:45:00

would have not. I would have literally lost my house

2:45:02

if I did not, if I was not listening

2:45:04

to my father. Well, I'm so glad I have a lot

2:45:06

of properties and I went and refinanced them all also and

2:45:08

kept them at 3% as well. I knew it was coming.

2:45:10

I didn't know it was this high, but I knew it

2:45:13

was going to go up. It was ridiculous. So I did

2:45:15

it too. So it makes life so much easier. But watch

2:45:17

this though. If you're a fixed rate, you're

2:45:19

fine. If you had a floating rate, you're

2:45:22

paying two and a half times the same house. Many

2:45:25

people can't do that. Well, in business

2:45:27

loans, they're floating rates. So

2:45:29

money was being loaned in those days,

2:45:31

maybe five or 6%. But

2:45:34

guess what? When the rates went up, it's the same

2:45:36

loan. And by the way,

2:45:38

we're already making double or triple than what

2:45:40

people are making on bonds. But now when

2:45:42

the infinites, when interest rates went up, we're

2:45:45

now getting 12 and 13%. On the exact same loans, we

2:45:48

have no more risk and the

2:45:50

profitability is through the roof and I'm getting the two and 20.

2:45:53

And just in the best firms in the world. And I interviewed

2:45:55

the best firms here to give you an idea. So you truly

2:45:57

just found the master of it. And instead of like, it

2:46:00

for yourself for like a couple years, transferring

2:46:02

all your money, building it up.

2:46:04

You were like, oh, I got to tell everybody about

2:46:06

this. I was telling all of my friends who had

2:46:08

money, but it's like most people trying to get there

2:46:11

faster and the tools they have are very limited, right?

2:46:13

Stocks, bonds, REITs, maybe your own house,

2:46:16

right? But those are not the kinds

2:46:18

of returns that are available here with less risk in

2:46:20

most cases, not all, but most cases and you want

2:46:22

to get with the best. So, and when you're the

2:46:24

house, think about this, you could be the poker player

2:46:26

or you could be the house. These

2:46:29

guys are the house, right? So you

2:46:31

want to be the person trying to get a loan, you

2:46:33

want to be a person giving a little money, you know?

2:46:35

So it's very different. I'll give you one more that's just

2:46:37

fun. So when I was a kid, my

2:46:40

fourth father was a semi-pro baseball player. And

2:46:43

so I got to start playing baseball a little

2:46:45

bit later because this is my fourth father. We

2:46:47

didn't have any money I could pay for going to a little league

2:46:49

and things like that, but he insisted and I got to do it

2:46:52

and loved it. But I

2:46:54

got started late and I wasn't that skilled. My time I

2:46:56

got to high school, I realized I'm not going to be

2:46:58

a professional baseball player. So I got to figure out what

2:47:00

I'm going to do. I'm going to be a sportscaster, sports

2:47:02

writer. I started writing for a paper, doing different things. But

2:47:05

the interesting thing was I would go to LA

2:47:07

Dodger Stadium, maybe once or twice in a year,

2:47:10

and I would buy the cheapest ticket and right

2:47:12

field at the top in the bleed seats and

2:47:14

bleed Dodger blue. I mean, I just love baseball,

2:47:16

love sports. And so I promised

2:47:20

myself someday I'm going to do well enough. I'm going to

2:47:22

own a sports team. It seemed totally absurd. And

2:47:24

then about six, seven years ago,

2:47:27

I finally had accumulated enough assets that I

2:47:29

could actually do that. Now, a

2:47:31

lot of money and they put a

2:47:33

microscope to you. You can't believe what you go through

2:47:35

to qualify to become an owner, not a single owner,

2:47:38

just an owner or a part of it. And

2:47:41

so I helped build the LA FC football club. I got

2:47:43

to partner with my friend Peter Guebert, a bunch of other

2:47:45

brilliant people. I played a small role, but it

2:47:47

was so fun. And then I moved to

2:47:49

Florida and I'm never there for the games, but we won

2:47:51

a championship. It was a blast, right? So

2:47:53

I was like, I want to build some more sports teams. So

2:47:55

I bought an esports team. It's done really well in some championships.

2:47:58

And then I was like, God, it would be nice to have a all these other

2:48:00

sports, be so much fun. And then

2:48:03

the rules changed about three years ago. And

2:48:05

the NFL has not done it, but Major

2:48:07

League Baseball, the NBA, Major League

2:48:09

Soccer, and Major League Hockey have all

2:48:11

changed the rules, where a small number

2:48:13

of firms who don't use leverage, so

2:48:15

it's not spooky, are able to

2:48:17

buy pieces of these businesses. Now, why would

2:48:19

you want to own a part of a

2:48:21

sports team other than the fun of it?

2:48:23

Well, it's not correlated to the stock market

2:48:25

or to the bond market. It's completely different.

2:48:28

You own a monopoly in your city. No

2:48:30

one can compete with you. You have the

2:48:32

only exclusive right in that city. You have

2:48:34

customers called fanatics. That's what fan means, fanatics,

2:48:36

multi-generational. And they used to make money by

2:48:38

putting butts in seats and when inflation happens,

2:48:40

they charge more for the hot dog and

2:48:42

people pay it. But now, they're

2:48:45

media enterprises and they're real estate enterprises. They

2:48:47

buy all the real estate around it. The

2:48:49

media rights, because of cutting cords. Of

2:48:51

100 top shows last year, 92 were

2:48:54

sporting events. Why?

2:48:57

Because cord cutting, those are the only people that are

2:48:59

gonna watch a commercial. The Super Bowl is the most

2:49:01

exaggerated example, right? So advertisers

2:49:03

want to go there. So I'll give you an

2:49:05

example. Peter

2:49:07

Guevara, dear friend of mine, partnered with some of these

2:49:09

businesses. We own a piece of the L.A.F.C. together. I

2:49:12

own a piece of the Warriors, called State Warriors

2:49:14

with them, the L.A. Dodgers with them. He bought

2:49:16

the Dodgers several years ago with a group of

2:49:18

friends, Magic Johnson, some really brilliant people. He

2:49:22

paid $2 billion for the Dodgers. No one had

2:49:24

paid a billion for a baseball team. Everybody

2:49:27

in the media went crazy. They were insane, they're gonna

2:49:29

lose money. The most anybody paid was $800 million for

2:49:31

a baseball team. And they all thought, you know, the

2:49:33

Dodgers, they're a great franchise, they're worth a billion, but

2:49:35

they're not worth two billion. Yeah, I sort of heard

2:49:38

a lot more. So I go to Peter, who's got

2:49:40

52 Academy Awards. He's

2:49:42

been the chairman of Sony Columbia TriStar, teaches

2:49:44

the UCLA, a regent for the UC system.

2:49:48

One of the smartest human beings I know. And I said,

2:49:50

Peter, I know you're no idiot. Everybody's saying

2:49:52

you're an idiot to pay two billion. How

2:49:55

are you gonna do it? What do you know they don't know? He

2:49:57

says, Tony, I like cliffhangers. I

2:49:59

will make it real. announcement on Tuesday. Why don't you hear it,

2:50:01

come over, and we'll laugh and celebrate together. Tuesday

2:50:04

announced he sold the local TV

2:50:07

rights for $7 billion and made

2:50:09

$5 billion on the spot. That

2:50:12

doesn't count all the other revenues that come from

2:50:14

the sport. Like

2:50:17

that. I'll give you another example. By

2:50:19

the way, when you own NBA, Major

2:50:22

League Baseball, you get an equal cut of all

2:50:24

the national advertising. If you're the smallest, cheapest baseball

2:50:26

team or NBA team, or the best, it doesn't

2:50:28

matter. But the local rights you keep. So he

2:50:31

sold the local rights, he knew what he was

2:50:33

gonna do. Two billion is no problem.

2:50:36

I'm gonna make $5 billion now. So while everybody

2:50:38

was laughing at him, he goes, we'll see who's laughing. Exactly right,

2:50:40

did it. So I'll give you an example. Michael Jordan, he

2:50:43

bought the Charlotte Hornets, got

2:50:45

the name back to the Hornets. He bought him for $275 million

2:50:49

about 11 and a half years ago, almost 12 years ago. He

2:50:51

just sold, we were on the groups that bought, a whole

2:50:53

group to improve his lot, for $3 billion in

2:50:56

11 years. The

2:50:59

average NBA team has gone up over 1,000% over

2:51:02

the last 20 years, to give you an idea.

2:51:04

And these are big numbers, to give you perspective.

2:51:07

If you just look at Major League Baseball, Major

2:51:09

League Soccer, the NBA, and hockey, and

2:51:11

you take a look at that and you go, what have

2:51:13

they produced if you put them in amalgam? The answer is

2:51:15

18% compounded for the last

2:51:17

10 years. The stock market's then

2:51:19

11% and it's not, and they're not correlated. So it's

2:51:21

one of your eight to 12 that

2:51:24

gives you 80% less risk, integrated return, and

2:51:26

fun. You get to be an owner, you get

2:51:28

to do these things. So now we're

2:51:30

involved with, I own pieces of, we

2:51:33

own pieces of now of everybody from

2:51:35

let's say, the Warriors to the Utah

2:51:37

Jazz, from the Dodgers to the Red

2:51:39

Sox, pieces of both of them. The

2:51:42

Pittsburgh Penguins, I mean, I go on and on and on, and

2:51:45

it's a blast, it's fun, it's a great,

2:51:47

it's part of our culture, it's fun to

2:51:49

do, and you get these

2:51:51

unbelievable returns, and people can do

2:51:53

it with a little tiny piece now. They're a part

2:51:55

of a group that does that. So there's so many

2:51:57

ways that people don't know about, that's why.

2:52:00

wrote this book, The Holy Grail of Investing, because

2:52:02

it'll open up a whole new universe to people

2:52:04

what's possible. And the second half of the

2:52:06

book is interviews with the 13 biggest guys

2:52:08

in the world where I interview how they

2:52:10

think about it, how they make investments, what

2:52:12

they do. And you learn things about, like,

2:52:14

even of a small business, like how they

2:52:16

grow businesses is fascinating. So that's

2:52:18

what the book's all about. And again, 100% of it's

2:52:20

being donated, you know, to Feeding America. What

2:52:26

the hell am I supposed to say to

2:52:28

that dude? And you said it earlier, you

2:52:30

can go to the holy grail of investing,

2:52:32

theholygralveinvesting.com. And if you

2:52:34

want, you can listen to the first chapter

2:52:37

on audio for free, or to the

2:52:39

book, you know. Both links in

2:52:42

the bio. You got it. In

2:52:44

the description. I just have one last question for you. Sure.

2:52:46

Will you call me when you have the next great idea before you write

2:52:48

a book about it? I just want to be a part of it, Tony.

2:52:51

I just want to be a part of it. I want to be a

2:52:53

part of it. It's a pleasure, man. It's been a great conversation. I thought

2:52:55

we were going to talk for an hour. We talked for two and a

2:52:57

half or three, but I've loved it. It's been

2:52:59

almost three hours, and I've been dreaming about

2:53:01

this since Billy and I even exchanged numbers

2:53:03

a years ago. Thank you

2:53:05

for taking the time. I really, really appreciate it. You're

2:53:09

a man I look up to, literally, and

2:53:11

spiritually. Thank you

2:53:13

so much. And I pray that this opens

2:53:15

up a lot of people's hearts and minds. Me too. And

2:53:18

God willing, the next time we chat, I'll be at a

2:53:20

different point in my life where we could Iron Sharper and

2:53:22

Zion, but I'll be chasing that tail, man. I'm on it,

2:53:25

dude. I'm trying to be the next Tony, dude. Thank you

2:53:27

so much, bro. You'll be the best you. That's even better.

2:53:29

Thank you so much for having me. No, no, no. I'm

2:53:32

coming for you, Tony. I'm trying to be the next Tony.

2:53:34

God bless.

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