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I pray that if you're not the man yet to

1:02

be running this country, I pray that God shapes you

1:04

to be the best man to run this country. I

1:06

pray that God gives you the words that need to

1:08

be spoken to your peers and to your generation. That

1:10

means the world to me. That's what I will pray

1:12

for and I'm grateful for yours as

1:14

well. It's

1:19

not often I sit down with somebody and they say

1:21

something that makes me think. Bro, this was great. I

1:24

love you, man. Listen, you give me something to

1:26

think about. I'm my own damn way. I

1:28

had a lot of fun on this interview. I

1:30

am excited about this episode. I know. Thank

1:33

you for having us in your beautiful house. Thank you for

1:35

coming over, guys. Hallmark house, by the way. I appreciate

1:37

that. This is like a dream home. Every

1:40

time we were walking back and forth, I would whisper to her, I'll be like,

1:42

yo, we got to get a house like this. I'm

1:44

glad. I wish nothing

1:46

but happiness for the two of you

1:48

guys. And I think the home is

1:51

nice, but it's the people in it that make a

1:53

difference. And so that's what brings happiness to the home

1:55

for us. This is an

1:57

inaugural first ever podcast in the basement

1:59

of my home, next door to the

2:01

playroom. And so, you know, exactly. Funny

2:07

game. I'm glad we're talking about the home because I want

2:09

to start with the home. I think

2:13

I'm a first generation American. And I believe

2:15

you are too. Yeah. My parents are immigrants.

2:17

Are you an immigrant or I'm not an

2:19

immigrant? I came from where? Iraq. Oh,

2:22

really? I think I didn't know that. Yes.

2:24

And the reason I wanted

2:26

to bring up the home and it organically just kind of

2:28

worked here. But the home,

2:30

I feel like where everything begins, of

2:32

course, how the home is structured is

2:34

how the community is structured versus the

2:36

state and then the country. And I

2:38

feel like right now, the home

2:41

is starting to get divided. And

2:43

so I wanted to start with the home and

2:45

learn about your home because from what I've watched

2:47

you working with Jake, surfing,

2:50

your your rapping Eminem, you

2:52

I could tell you're very, very good on camera

2:54

and your heart is pushing in the right direction.

2:56

And we have we have notes to talk about

2:59

when you're in college and how you just love

3:01

to debate, you go on the opposite side and

3:03

just, you know, fight for them. And so I

3:05

know you're you have everything you need

3:07

to become a president one day. And so what

3:10

I want to know is who you are without

3:12

the office, I want to know what your home

3:14

is like, because you're going to bring your home

3:16

into the White House. And that home is going

3:18

to duplicate in our country. So I want to

3:21

just take a step back to know who are

3:23

you before you got into all this? How are

3:25

you raised? Yeah, I think it's interesting you say

3:27

that I you

3:30

may be light years ahead of where I was

3:33

before I was married, but it's only after

3:35

getting married and having kids myself, that

3:38

I really gained a deep appreciation for

3:40

what you just said, which is that

3:42

the home the family unit is the

3:44

foundation for everything in

3:46

a great society, great country, even

3:50

Aristotle back in the early days

3:52

of ancient Greece, believe that the

3:54

household was the unit around which

3:56

a great nation state is

3:58

built, but I only understood that

4:00

in my bones. I would say somewhat

4:02

after getting married, but really only even after having kids.

4:04

And so I applaud you for

4:06

being well ahead of where I was in my own

4:08

journey. And it should have been obvious to me because

4:11

that's actually what I had growing up was a stable

4:13

family, two parents in the house

4:15

with a focus on education, instilling in us a

4:17

belief in God. And I think

4:19

that gave us the self-confidence to be able to

4:22

jump high as the case may be. My dad used

4:25

to say, you can jump higher if you're

4:27

jumping from a stable foundation. It makes sense. If

4:29

your foundation is itself wobbling, you're not going to

4:31

jump as high as you possibly could. And so

4:35

part of that I think is

4:38

it gives you a sense of self-confidence.

4:40

Once you figure out who you are,

4:42

it becomes easier to do

4:45

the things that match who you are. The harder question is figuring

4:47

out who you are. So for me, my

4:49

upbringing was, I don't know how similar it was to

4:51

yours, but maybe you tell me.

4:53

I mean, I had your parents spare the rod with

4:55

that. Did your parents spare the rod? Like

5:00

bring it out a little bit. Yeah. I

5:02

mean, like don't act up. Yeah. And I

5:04

think that's important because if who's that? Oh,

5:06

I don't know. I'm just kidding. I want to freak it out. I'm

5:12

like, this is my home, but I don't know this man. That's so funny.

5:14

It's good to see you. Man. You put this over there. I'll grab it

5:16

if I need it. Um, I found

5:18

that so he's like, uh, I don't know. And I have

5:20

security all around my house. I should probably know. Uh, so

5:24

yeah, my dad, my dad never spared the rod. It's

5:26

a biblical term. And, uh, God is, you know, talking

5:28

to the men of the house and he's saying, don't

5:30

spare the rod because you might have to, you know,

5:33

show them what pain is at a small fraction. You mean

5:35

that you meant a little sense. Yeah. So, so my parents

5:37

did not, uh, they didn't use it often, but they didn't

5:39

spare it. Yeah. They used it when they needed it. Yeah,

5:41

of course. And you know, it's there. And so once, once

5:45

you learn as a kid about

5:48

the importance of the boundaries, your parents have said,

5:50

then you have actually an opportunity to build your

5:52

own understanding of what is or is not appropriate

5:55

around that understanding that your parents gave you.

5:57

And so for me, it was

5:59

maybe not. uncommon to that of many immigrants who

6:01

come to this country, there's a sense of insecurity,

6:05

I guess, because my parents didn't come here

6:07

with a lot of money. They

6:10

were earnestly focused on one

6:12

thing in life, which is making sure that their kids

6:14

had a secure life that was better than their own.

6:18

They understood that that gave

6:20

them a responsibility to set clear boundaries at a young age,

6:22

okay, this is how you do things, this isn't how you

6:24

do things. It's not that as you

6:27

grow up as an adult, you necessarily follow every

6:29

little last boundary they set for you. I mean,

6:31

if I had followed their wish and career path,

6:33

I would have been a doctor practicing medicine probably

6:35

here in Columbus, Ohio, but living a very different

6:37

life than we do now. But

6:39

it gives you a starting point or at

6:41

least a framework from which to go in

6:43

a different direction. But if you have

6:45

no basis at all to say that,

6:48

okay, this is the general norm and

6:50

I'm going to deviate from

6:52

that norm in some way, if you're completely rudderless,

6:54

I think that makes life a lot more difficult.

6:56

And so anyway, I think that's what the

6:59

nuclear family does, having two parents in the house is

7:01

it gives you a norm to say that even if

7:03

you're going to do things a little bit differently, at

7:06

least you have a stable foundation as

7:08

the backdrop to deviate

7:10

even from. A foundation. Exactly. If

7:13

you like that foundation, then I think we would

7:15

have been, I think I speak for my brother

7:17

and I both, but I definitely speak for myself,

7:19

probably a lot more rudderless and would not have

7:22

achieved the things that I have in my life

7:24

without that mooring in the first place. I

7:26

agree, but I also think that if you didn't

7:28

have that fear factor, you

7:30

also wouldn't have that. And I'm

7:33

starting to realize that there's

7:35

quotes that I follow that I know

7:37

have a lot more power than people

7:39

understand. And that's the reason why

7:41

I always push in a biblical sense. Even

7:43

if you're not a religious man, it's still

7:45

a history book. Oh, history repeats itself. So

7:48

when I acknowledge it in history book, it

7:50

is time tested history book in the sense

7:52

that this has given direction

7:54

and purpose and meaning to people

7:56

over a couple thousand

7:58

years now. So there's

8:01

something there. Yeah, you could just decide

8:03

whether or not that's your that's your

8:05

sole basis for understanding truth or God.

8:07

But there's literally

8:10

given people meaning for that long. It's

8:12

at least withstood the test of time.

8:14

Well, if every time they deviate from

8:16

it, the kingdom falls. Yeah. And

8:18

when I see a kingdom fall in history, I

8:21

see what happens is they they they

8:23

water down the father figure. Super

8:25

perfect way to attack a country, tackle home.

8:27

If you get rid of the father, then

8:29

who's going to raise your kids? And

8:32

so I'm noticing that our country is

8:34

being divided and it's being divided. I

8:36

would say used by social media. I

8:38

think that war that's happening now isn't

8:40

like guns on the battlefield. It's turning

8:43

your own people against you. That's right.

8:45

So if I'm a social media star,

8:47

I got to make sure that I'm

8:49

representing this country in a well way.

8:52

And so I disagree with a lot

8:54

of things that Joe Biden is doing.

8:56

And I've never really spoke politically for

8:58

many reasons. One, I'm not a

9:01

genius at it. So it's hard for me to speak up

9:03

if I don't know that I'll just be contributing. Very humble

9:06

of you and honest. It's stupid for me

9:08

to come and play if I don't know what's going

9:10

on. So I want everybody to know that I'm sitting

9:12

here as an average American, one who's seeing what's going

9:14

on in passing. And so I'm sitting here, I want

9:16

to learn from you. And I also want to I

9:19

want to speak from the heart. So

9:21

before I even speak about how I feel about Joe Biden,

9:23

what is what is your your feeling about

9:25

Joe? You know, my feeling about Joe is

9:27

I actually maybe much less than other Republicans

9:29

spend a lot less of my air time

9:31

sitting around criticizing him. Because

9:34

I don't even think that in any real sense

9:36

of the word, he is the operative president of

9:38

the United States. I think he

9:40

is like so many politicians, a figure he's a

9:42

puppet for this managerial

9:44

machine that sits underneath him.

9:47

So it's like a bad version, a nightmarish

9:49

version of like the Greg Popovich, San Antonio

9:52

Spurs, right? It almost doesn't

9:54

matter who's playing point guard, because

9:56

it's a machine that operates irrespective

9:59

of who's actually. playing whatever role they're playing and

10:01

he just happens to be really the

10:03

instrument, the puppet who's playing the role of the

10:05

US president and viewed as such. See,

10:07

a lot of people wonder, well, why would they

10:09

nominate this man who has this many cognitive deficits

10:11

or is unable to construct full

10:13

sentences? In some

10:16

ways for the people who are operating that machine,

10:18

and that's not one person who's like the Wizard

10:20

of Oz sitting behind the scenes, it's a whole

10:22

machine, it's actually more

10:24

convenient when the president doesn't have independent

10:26

thoughts of his own, when the president

10:28

itself is just a cog in that

10:31

wheel. So yes, do

10:33

I have – I mean, could I give you

10:35

a whole litany for two hours of a list

10:37

of Biden's policies that have been disastrous for the

10:39

country, the failure to enforce basic policies on our

10:41

southern border, the implications for economy? Yes,

10:43

we could go through all of that and it wouldn't

10:45

be that different than what many other Republican politicians could tell you.

10:48

But I think the reality is actually far

10:50

more interesting and far more

10:53

important to the country, which is that

10:55

the idea that this is one man

10:57

who's actually calling the shots as the

10:59

leader of the executive branch is a farce.

11:03

The people who were electing to run the

11:05

government, that's the myth we tell ourselves

11:08

in America today, that we tell ourselves to go

11:10

through these elections, the people we elect to run the government, they're the ones

11:12

running the government, then we hold them accountable, it's

11:14

all a fairy tale. The people

11:16

were electing to run the government, they're not the

11:18

ones actually running the government.

11:21

It is this managerial bureaucracy, this

11:23

machine that's independent of

11:25

the people who we elect, the

11:28

people who we never elected are the ones really pulling

11:30

the strings. So what I think of Joe Biden, I think he's a

11:32

puppet and I think for that reason he's

11:34

mostly irrelevant. I think a

11:36

lot of the focus disproportionately, like even

11:38

in the Republican primary passes,

11:41

the pledge they had all the candidates sign is the beat

11:43

Biden pledge. As I signed it, I kind of scoffed. I

11:45

mean, you had to sign it to be on the debate

11:47

stage, so I signed it. But I

11:50

kind of laughed to myself because it

11:53

reflects the way in which the Republican Party is

11:55

itself missing the point. I think there's a very

11:57

good chance Joe Biden won't end up being the

11:59

nominee. the time we get there, the

12:01

puppet masters are slowly losing their use for him.

12:04

When you become totally impaired at a certain point, you

12:06

stop being useful even as a puppet. But

12:08

I think that's what I think is really going on with

12:10

the Biden issue. And you spoke on this that one

12:13

of your things that you wanted to bring to the

12:15

attention was that you want the board, the people who

12:17

are on the government to be the ones to actually

12:19

be running the government. Yes. Right?

12:22

There's two basic ideas that I approach this with.

12:24

Not black or white or even Democrat or Republican.

12:27

One is the people who we elect to run the government

12:30

should be the ones who run the government. And

12:32

number two is those people who we elect, they

12:35

owe a moral duty exclusively

12:37

to the citizens of this

12:40

country, not any

12:42

other one. The first and only

12:44

moral duty of US elected leaders

12:47

are to the US citizens in this

12:49

country. That's it. I don't think that's too

12:51

much to ask. I think that that's two basic

12:53

ideas that we fought in American Revolution to say.

12:56

We get to choose who runs the government. We the people

12:58

create a government that's accountable to us, not the other way

13:00

around. That's what the American Revolution was fought for. And

13:02

that's what I stand for. My

13:05

opinion of Joe Biden, and this is like my first

13:07

time ever opening up. Let me first

13:09

be very respectful. When I came to this country,

13:11

my dad made it very clear in front of

13:13

my friends. He embarrassed me really hard because we

13:15

walked in as like high schoolers not knowing anything

13:17

about this country. And we were mad talking shit

13:19

about this country. And my dad pulled me aside.

13:21

He goes, we gave up everything to

13:24

be in this country. He goes, so don't be

13:26

the man that sits and complains it does nothing. Be the

13:28

man who's quiet, rolls up his sleeves and gets to work.

13:31

Yes. Okay. So

13:33

to be that man, I have to see Joe Biden as

13:35

a man that's greater than I. And I'll explain why, because

13:37

he rolled up his sleeves and he at least attempted to

13:40

try to help this country. Now, I don't know him personally.

13:42

I don't know his philosophies. I don't know what way he's

13:44

going about. I don't know him personally either. Yeah. So

13:46

for me to say, no, this guy's a clown. He needs to get out of here.

13:48

That's stupid. Idiotic. It's very

13:51

immature. The man has dedicated his life to this country. So

13:53

I must respect his heart. But

13:55

as a 31 year old man, I can't

13:59

hide my eyes. in my ears to see that

14:01

the man who's running our country can't

14:03

walk on and off stage. The

14:06

man is disabled mentally right now. And

14:08

that's not taking shots at him. The man's

14:10

age is there. He's done every, I

14:13

can't even go, when people say, oh, look at this

14:15

man, he's not there, but the man was there. And

14:17

the man gave everything he got to the point where

14:19

literally the man's checked out. So

14:22

as a citizen, I'm just saying, why

14:24

isn't anybody stepping in? Because as I've never

14:26

voted, and the reason why I've never voted is because

14:28

I believe that the votes don't matter.

14:30

Now that might piss a lot of people off,

14:32

but come on, dude, the president is not here

14:34

right now. So as a man

14:37

who's trying to become more of a person who

14:39

should be believing in voting, why

14:42

should me or anybody else consider

14:44

voting when the

14:46

man who is in charge right now is publicly

14:50

and personally not running this

14:52

country? Yeah. So it sounds like

14:54

you and I have some pretty similar observations. I think

14:56

it's the most important thing, and I think many Republicans miss

14:58

this. The man is not really the president of the United

15:00

States in any sense that our founding fathers are sufficient. So

15:02

then why should I care about voting? And

15:04

I come from a place of understanding where you're at, man, for

15:06

most of my 20s. I voted in

15:08

my first election back when I was 19. I

15:11

voted for the libertarian because I couldn't fathom

15:13

voting for either George Bush or John Kerry

15:16

in 2004. But

15:20

I didn't actually vote for much of my 20s after

15:22

that because I didn't see candidates who inspired me. So

15:24

I'm coming from a place of understanding where you're coming

15:26

from. I can tell you sitting where I

15:28

sit now, I still regret that. I

15:30

still regret that because as

15:33

long as there's somebody who has a last best chance,

15:35

and this is why I ran for president this time,

15:38

and I think that it's

15:40

what motivated me and gave me a sense of obligation to do this,

15:43

somebody needs to come in and break that

15:45

system. So it's not serving as a red-colored

15:47

cog or a blue-colored cog in the same

15:49

system, which is what you admittedly have from

15:51

the professional politicians who repeatedly run. But

15:54

What we need is somebody who isn't running as a red cog or

15:56

a blue cog, but somebody who's ringing a baseball bat to break all

15:58

the cogs. Basic reforms that

16:01

we didn't. Government That say the people, we like

16:03

to run the government run the government. Get rid

16:05

of the lot of the bureaucrats that are wielding

16:07

these professional politicians like puppets that puts more responsibility

16:09

than on the elected representatives. Good. What happens when

16:12

you have the bureaucrats that a run of the

16:14

show is. the elected representatives don't need a taxi.

16:16

Assume that level of responsibility anymore. It works out

16:18

better for them. To the President through those people

16:21

in ponderous what you said of a Biden is

16:23

true in terms of elder abuse in the John

16:25

talk received the White House. No disrespect him but

16:27

he's not able to do the job. but we

16:29

have many. People in Congress in

16:32

the Us senate the citizens

16:34

because the job is being

16:36

done by about four million

16:38

federal bureaucrats. Who. Never elected

16:40

to those positions in the first place, but

16:42

who are the real ones exercising power over

16:45

the economy and the judas and and the

16:47

legal system and the running of this country?

16:49

And so these things work together with give

16:51

a candidate who's actually going to step up

16:54

and bring a baseball bat to break that

16:56

system. I would say if you're disillusioned by

16:58

the system, you still have an obligation to

17:00

make sure that we burned that system to

17:03

the ground and build a new one in

17:05

it's place. or you don't play by their

17:07

systems. Well, I. I. Didn't.

17:10

Play by that system in so many way. We're

17:12

not out yet. I mean, my say offers a

17:15

for the cycle. I know what you're doing. You're

17:17

setting yourself if you did, a cannonball showed the

17:19

people what you could do, and then when you

17:21

circle back, not only the young Americans know who

17:23

you are, but the new young Americans will know

17:25

you are the perfect way. I know exactly where

17:27

you're going to in the next generation is melissa

17:29

whole reason we're doing this. Or we might my

17:31

kids and their generation. Is and was

17:33

your. Maybe. It a cost generation of the

17:36

next generation. to me. When.

17:38

I going to country last unless we have

17:41

somebody who actually breaks that system and breaks

17:43

that entire cog in machine that this is

17:45

built on. And so what I would say

17:47

is. Kind.

17:50

Of like the advice your father gave you a

17:52

little bit. You. Don't value a country

17:54

that you just passively inherit. You value

17:56

a country that you have a stake

17:58

in building. creating and knowing

18:00

something about. So it's not just going to

18:03

the ballot box and casting the

18:05

ballot. Yes, I would encourage you to do that.

18:07

But I think it is more importantly having some

18:09

sense of skin in the game and saying

18:11

that, you know what, if I want a country different than

18:13

the one that I live in today, it is

18:16

my responsibility to step up and do my part to

18:18

actually create that. So that's why I think that every,

18:20

you might have heard me say this in the campaign

18:22

trail, I think every high

18:24

school senior who becomes

18:27

a voting citizen should have

18:29

to pass the same civics test that

18:32

every immigrant has to pass in order to become a

18:34

voting citizen in this country. I see no point in

18:36

you going to the ballot box and just filling it

18:38

out and handing it in, voting for the US president.

18:40

If you have no idea what branch of government the

18:42

US president even leads. They're not even educating them in

18:44

school. Absolutely. What if you see this as a brain,

18:46

like a form of brainwashing? I would

18:49

see it as a form of, this is a

18:51

brainwashing is almost too

18:53

kind. It's almost like a lobotomization actually.

18:55

Brainwashing is trying to actually fill

19:01

somebody's mind with an ideology. I

19:03

think what we're seeing actually is closer to

19:05

a mass lobotomization which makes people stop having

19:08

the ability to think any ideology in the

19:10

first place. I think it's what modern algorithmic

19:12

social media feeds, but I think a lot

19:14

of that's happening in our educational system as

19:16

well. I don't think the kids should be

19:18

using or allowed to use their iPhones in

19:20

the classroom. It makes jobs a lot easier

19:22

for teachers. In public schools, we're able

19:25

to check out while their kids are checked out in

19:27

their own right, effectively all drugged without chemical drugs. I

19:30

think that part of what's happening is this mass

19:32

lobotomization that creates this nation

19:35

of sheep, right? Supplicated sheep.

19:37

We're all just going through the motions, doing what our

19:39

iPhones tell us to do on a given day. Then

19:42

of course, cultural indoctrination can then follow much

19:44

more easily. You can't

19:46

indoctrinate a people who's independent in

19:49

their thought process, people who are actually having independent

19:51

thoughts. You can only indoctrinate

19:53

a populace that has

19:56

gone through the mass lobotomization

20:00

system is foisting on our kids. If people

20:02

are a little bit more lazy, a little bit more relaxed,

20:04

and maybe don't want to be, you know, have to roll

20:06

up the season and do it, then it's easier in that

20:08

sense. But so I do have a

20:10

question about the fact that if the Federal Bureau isn't

20:13

elected, if those people are already in, then how would

20:15

you go about breaking down the people

20:17

who are controlling the Federal Bureau? So

20:19

it takes a president who gets in

20:21

there and actually has the spine to

20:25

effectively burn the apparatus down. Does he have the power to

20:28

do that? Yes. So

20:30

this is a controversial view, but my

20:32

firm view in the current Supreme Court agrees with me

20:34

on the 6-3. The

20:36

answer is yes. Because you break them down for me.

20:38

Yeah, because I'm seeing Donald Trump try to do every

20:40

single thing and get burned alive trying to do everything.

20:42

Sure. And I'm going to be helping him

20:45

in whatever way I can at this point. I think that he

20:47

is the best person to lead this country for the next four

20:49

years. Do you want to be VP? I

20:51

want to do whatever's best for this country, to be

20:53

honest with you. And from having been in the position

20:55

of being a chief executive myself and running companies and

20:58

I ran for president, that's

21:00

the question for the president to decide

21:02

who he needs in different positions. And

21:04

it's a question of what his vision

21:06

is for his administration. But

21:08

forget about what's his position. That's humbling. And

21:11

I want a humble man in office. We

21:13

want this country to be successful. And

21:15

that means we want Donald Trump to be successful as

21:18

the next president. So I'll do whatever is my power

21:20

to make sure he is as successful as he possibly

21:22

can be as the next leader of

21:24

this country. But I think one of the things

21:26

that we, I think, have learned for the last 25 years

21:28

and even from Trump's first term, where

21:30

he did a good job, is that you

21:32

can't reform these bureaucracies. You have

21:35

to be willing to get in there and actually shut them down. Here's

21:37

the legal basis for how. So Article

21:39

II of the Constitution – it's a

21:41

great document. Sometimes it's worth going back and revisiting.

21:43

We forget its existence sometimes. Article

21:46

II of the Constitution says that the

21:48

executive power of the United States shall

21:50

be vested in a president. It's

21:53

not in 100 different executive agencies in a president. That means –

21:55

and I adopt a theory that's called the unitary theory of

21:58

the executive branch, which means there's one executive – executive

22:00

branch, not 100, not 1,000, not 50, one executive branch.

22:05

The person who leads that executive branch is the US president. And

22:09

I know from being an executive, if somebody

22:11

works for you and you can't follow

22:13

them, that means they don't

22:15

work for you. In a

22:17

literal sense, it means that you work for them because

22:19

you're then responsible for what they do without

22:22

any authority to change it. You can just go

22:24

outside of politics for a second. So when my

22:26

first company was in the biotech industry and

22:29

we visited pharmaceutical companies in other regions

22:31

like in Japan or other places, and

22:33

one of the things that's different in

22:35

the Japanese economy is that even

22:38

the CEO of companies can't fire the employees

22:40

who actually work for them. And

22:42

so one of the things that would happen, and this is a

22:45

totally different company that I didn't, that

22:47

I had nothing to do with, but I had a chance to learn about, the

22:51

CEO or one of the higher ranking

22:53

executives is talking about the fact that the

22:55

stories – and this is a guy who had been in America,

22:58

so he understood the American perspective. The

23:00

CEO would say, okay, I want you to stop working on this

23:02

or that project. And they would look at him and say, yes, sir.

23:05

Yes, okay. Comes back three months

23:07

later. Well, they're still spending money on that

23:09

same wasted project. He said, well, you're doing

23:11

it. I told you not to. He said,

23:14

oh, yes, sir. Okay, we will cease operations

23:16

on this project. Come back six months later.

23:18

They're doing the same thing. Why? Because

23:21

the chief executive in Japan cannot fire

23:23

employees. It's just part of the –

23:25

under extreme and rare circumstances, at least

23:27

for the history of last 30 years

23:29

of Japanese culture, you couldn't do it.

23:32

That's slowly changing in Japan in maybe the last

23:34

five years, but before that, for

23:36

the last 30, 40, 50, 100 years in Japan, you

23:38

just – it's not a thing that you do in the culture. You

23:40

can't fire employees. Well, if you can't fire that

23:42

employee, that means you cannot hold them accountable for

23:45

whatever failure that is. They stopped with the rod.

23:48

They stopped with the rod. Exactly. They

23:50

stopped with the rod. Everything starts at the house.

23:52

Patrick McDavid said a quote that

23:54

is very, very scary to me. He

23:56

said, I'm scared we're going to be

23:58

the generation that lose God's favor.

24:02

And why that scares me is because I

24:04

grew up in this country where it was

24:06

really outstanding to be standing with your God

24:08

and then it slowly started getting, maybe we

24:10

shouldn't invite God into the schools and in

24:12

the country and then it started to go

24:14

like, oh you talk about God you're weird.

24:16

This is the true factor

24:18

that I see with our history books in

24:20

the Bible. If you lose respect for the

24:22

Heavenly Father then you start losing respect for

24:25

your earthly Father. Once you start losing respect

24:27

for your earthly Father you have no respect

24:29

for yourself. And when you have

24:31

no respect for yourself you start acting like

24:33

a demon. And now I'm starting

24:35

to realize that the people around me care

24:38

so much more about what God doesn't

24:40

want you to do that how are

24:42

we not going to end up in

24:44

hell's fire? How? It's impossible.

24:46

If I turn this light off the room becomes dark. If

24:48

you take God out of it life ceases to

24:51

exist. So how is it that we could go

24:53

and openly talk about everything else they want to

24:55

teach our children but we bring up God and

24:57

we're the outcast. If we don't stand up for

24:59

our God in this country today there will be

25:01

no country tomorrow. I believe that.

25:03

I think our founders believe that. I mean this it's in

25:06

some of the back. So how do we bring God back

25:08

into our country? You take out your, does anybody have your

25:10

wallet on you? I do. Have a dollar

25:12

bill in there? Let me see. Let's see. It's a

25:14

cashless society anymore but yeah. Actually that's one of the

25:16

things. Okay let's get a one dollar bill. I don't

25:18

have a one dollar bill. Let's see what shows you

25:20

have. Let's see when you have. I have a hundred,

25:22

I have 20, I have 10. Let's see. Here's

25:24

a hundred. You can keep it. Thanks for your time.

25:27

It's in the back of everyone. Thank you. I appreciate

25:29

that. Anybody have a one dollar bill? Actually, first of

25:31

all it's in the back of each of these, right?

25:34

It's in the back of every one of our dollar

25:36

bills in God we trust. Yeah but who's God? Right.

25:38

Well I think that's a good question to discuss. I

25:41

mean the beauty of this country is it was founded

25:44

on. So I'm Hindu. You're a Christian.

25:46

But Hindus believe that God was even a Buddha,

25:49

right? There's one true God. The

25:54

thing I was going to actually point out was on the

25:56

back of the one dollar bill is the seal of the

25:58

United States. And

26:00

people don't talk about this enough. It says in God we

26:03

trust one and so it's sort of a

26:05

it's sort of a play on Words here, right because

26:07

it's one as in for this is the one dollar

26:09

bill. Yeah, right. It's one dollar. So it

26:11

says one But that

26:14

one is located underneath in

26:16

God we trust and Then

26:18

on the left hand side here, you got some interesting

26:21

things going on and knew it coeptus

26:25

Novus ordo seclorum Which

26:28

means it's sort of in the order of

26:30

it actually it's you don't just look that

26:32

up right right here I actually actually want

26:34

to actually this is I

26:36

want to get this right I know I know

26:38

the spirit of what it means but since we're

26:40

going deep on this let's actually just talk about

26:43

it Right now. Yeah, Novus ordo seclorum a new

26:45

it coeptus and then you look at the back

26:47

of this That sounds like it like a spell.

26:49

It's not it does. It sounds so is this

26:51

wizardy? Where's really place? So so let's let's do

26:53

that and knew it Coeptus

26:56

which is a classical Latin. It's on the back

26:58

of our dollar bill, right? These guys these guys

27:01

It is called the great seal of the United States. It

27:03

says He favors

27:06

our undertakings. Okay,

27:08

that's what that means. It's crazy That says

27:10

he favors our undertaking because it related to

27:12

actually you're calling back to it What

27:14

you were talking about with the Patrick Patrick, but David

27:16

would say the generation that God will disfavor Well

27:19

at the start it says in God

27:21

we trust one for the one dollar

27:23

bill and knew it coeptus Which means

27:25

he favors our undertakings But

27:27

the way it's translating English says Providence

27:29

has favored our undertakings and

27:31

then at the end of it It says at

27:34

the bottom of it. It says this other thing

27:36

in Latin Novus Ordo

27:40

Seclorum which is also in the back of the

27:42

seal and this is this is

27:44

actually this actually just tells you even more

27:47

Extremely how our founding fathers were thinking about

27:49

this. It means new order for

27:51

the ages So

27:53

they were creating a new order for the

27:55

ages in whom

27:57

Providence divine Providence trusts, okay

28:01

In God, we trust they then put an English and

28:03

then put it under here. It says, one, standing for the $1

28:06

bill, but also the foundation around which

28:08

we're built. There's a pyramid with

28:10

a little bit of an eye. The top of the

28:13

pyramid is like an eye looking over that pyramid. So

28:16

the pyramids of Egypt are actually very

28:18

interesting because they were built by a

28:21

society that thought of themselves as the

28:23

origins, the progenitors of the greatest civilization

28:25

of their time. And they

28:27

thought that there was a certain holiness in what they were

28:29

doing. Our founding fathers in 1776

28:32

thought of themselves in that

28:34

same spirit of setting in motion this

28:37

new order for the ages, but

28:39

it was still one nation under God guided

28:41

by that divine sense of providence. And so

28:43

we can debate, you know, I mean, our

28:46

founding fathers had the debate. I mean, you

28:48

have several of our founding fathers, even

28:50

Thomas Jefferson was not a traditional Christian.

28:53

He was what he would have called of himself

28:55

a deist, right? So somebody who believed in Christian

28:58

principles, but who believed in the philosophy of

29:00

the teachings of Christ, but did not believe in the

29:02

individual miracle from the New Testament. And

29:04

so he cut out from there in the

29:06

New Testament, the teachings of Christ, but minus

29:08

the stories of the miracles and created what

29:10

you would call the Jefferson Bible today. It's

29:12

in the Smithsonian. But regardless,

29:15

all of our founding fathers with maybe a couple

29:17

of exceptions like Thomas Payne, who was an atheist,

29:20

saw our nation as

29:23

following from the divine providence of

29:25

the soul higher power and the

29:27

soul higher being the one who

29:29

God. Now, different, different

29:31

religions will call him by a different

29:34

name. You have John Adams, who became

29:36

a scholar. Actually he is Christian, but

29:38

he became a scholar of Hinduism in

29:40

his time after he left the White

29:42

House. But what they believed was, yes,

29:45

we're one nation under God, but God

29:47

has put us here still for an

29:49

actual purpose in this civic realm where

29:51

even atheists who don't believe in God

29:54

can still participate in that civic purpose.

29:56

But the people who set into motion still saw

29:58

it as... Transpiring with

30:01

the shadow of God behind them and so it's interesting

30:03

where like today you forget about that But even if

30:05

you just open your wallet and just take out a

30:07

one dollar bill It's hiding right there in

30:10

terms of the ideas that set the nation into our

30:12

into motion And I think we would

30:14

do well to at least bring that back

30:16

into the conversation instead of treating God as

30:18

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using his name in vain and using the name

31:22

in vain means it's useless and There's

31:25

a there's a Bible verse I wanted to share with you and I wanted to

31:27

share with you so I could take the time To share with people that are

31:29

listening For men with

31:31

faith to to build on this faith It's

31:36

the Valley of blessings and

31:38

there was this king and he had

31:40

a beautiful land and Two

31:43

other allies were coming together Both allies

31:45

that he was about to fight had

31:47

greater armies than him So on the right

31:50

bigger army than him on the left bigger

31:52

army than him. They're coming to take his

31:54

land And so he goes

31:56

to God and he goes out. There's zero way of

31:59

beating this There's zero way of beating us.

32:01

We don't have the resources, we don't have

32:03

the manpower. We don't even have anything

32:06

of what source to even come at them,

32:08

we'd be wiped out in a second. And

32:10

when I read this, I go, man, that's

32:12

how I feel right now. I

32:14

feel like I look at the media and I go,

32:16

this is just so much bigger than me. I look

32:18

at who's running for president and I see a man

32:20

like you saying, everybody else here is bought. I'm

32:23

seeing the man that we want to believe in is

32:25

about to be thrown in prison. I'm

32:27

seeing a chokehold on every exit that

32:29

we have to bring this country back

32:32

on its feet. And then I

32:34

read this and I go, okay, well, what did they do?

32:36

What was their plan of attack? And the Lord said, it's

32:38

not your battle no more, it's mine.

32:41

So when you go there, put down your weapons, don't even

32:43

look at them as enemies. I want you to

32:45

rejoice, I want you to pray, I want

32:47

you to give things to me and let me

32:49

know it's in my hands. So I go,

32:51

okay, what happens next? And

32:54

then I realized the two enemies that are coming at

32:56

him and they're in the

32:58

story, they turn on each other. They fight each other and

33:00

then when one of them wins, they turn on each other

33:02

then. And then when they got

33:04

to where they needed to fight, the war was

33:06

over. They already won

33:09

without even raising a sword, they gave

33:11

it to God. And right now I'm not trying to run

33:13

for president. I'm not trying to push

33:15

anybody on my God. I'm just trying

33:17

to say, if you want to get this country back on

33:19

its feet, start respecting the God who prayed to this country.

33:22

Amen and I think that's part

33:25

of the loss of self respect actually comes

33:27

from I think the loss of belief in

33:29

a God higher than

33:31

yourself, right? Individual, family, nation,

33:34

God. If you can't humble yourself in

33:36

front of God and you can't be humble yourself, then

33:38

it's hard to have like self-confidence and be confident in

33:40

who you are and be like, no, these are my

33:42

choices and I stand on what I believe. You

33:45

don't have humbleness, you just don't have that. Let's

33:48

pivot to situations that are happening as

33:50

we speak. I wanna learn and

33:52

again, I sit in this chair as a student, not

33:55

somebody who's pointing fingers, getting his

33:57

resources, his knowledge, his wisdom. So

34:00

that way I could roll up my sleeves and

34:02

get to work. Not trying to point the fingers,

34:04

not trying to get angry, but I'm confused as

34:07

much as I want everybody in the world to be strong.

34:09

Before I get into this, let me tell you a story.

34:11

I was in LA, my mom and dad were paying

34:13

for my stay. I was at Subway,

34:16

my mom and dad would give me 200 bucks a

34:18

week to fill my gas, get food, whatever, right? It

34:21

was Thursday night, 10 o'clock at night,

34:23

I had only 20 bucks to my name left.

34:25

But I'm gonna get refilled tomorrow. And

34:28

then I see a man in front of me about to pay, he's

34:30

throwing 75 cents at the man, and he goes,

34:32

can I get a cookie? And I go,

34:35

bro, I could eat tomorrow. So

34:37

I paid for him, and I went to bed hungry.

34:39

And it got so hungry, my stomach started hurting, that

34:41

I had to call my dad embarrassingly, and I'd be

34:43

like, dad, please, can you send me some money, I

34:45

need to go get food. And he reamed me. He

34:48

goes, you're not in a position to help anybody, if

34:51

you can't help yourself. He goes,

34:53

never, ever, ever, ever, try to go and

34:55

help somebody else, and then fall

34:57

on your feet, because then somebody else is

34:59

gonna position themselves over you. He goes, be strong

35:01

with your foundation. And then when you're strong and

35:04

you're confident, then you help your family. When your

35:06

family is strong and confident, then you help the

35:08

other people around you. So what I wanna know,

35:10

knowing that from my father, a good man, a

35:12

great man, that told me, do not help other

35:14

people if you're in trouble. Why is it that

35:17

we're running to other countries and helping them with

35:19

their borders, when we ourselves have no border control?

35:22

I think it's a

35:25

form of escapism, actually, from our

35:27

own plight. As

35:29

the expression goes, writing an airplane, right? Put your own oxygen

35:32

mask on before helping the passenger next to you,

35:34

because you're gonna, in the end, do neither of

35:36

those two things well in the

35:38

first place. And so that's a big part of

35:40

what we're happening right now, is first, how about

35:43

helping yourself? Then how about

35:45

helping your neighbor or your colleague or

35:47

your classmate or the person

35:49

in your community? And then maybe

35:51

we can get to solving hunger in the Congo, and

35:53

then we can actually get to solving whatever

35:55

other global calamity, a lot of that's

35:57

made up anyway, that we have to.

36:00

worry about in the first place. But I think

36:02

right now it's almost a form of escapism where

36:05

solving some of the problems we have at

36:07

home look so daunting that

36:09

we are deflecting the public to say, we

36:12

all have a hunger for purpose, right? We

36:14

all need to fulfill our hunger for purpose.

36:16

It's pretty darn hard for us to figure

36:18

out how we're going to address the wave

36:20

of mental health epidemic, et cetera, raging across

36:22

this country, young people with their starvation for

36:24

purpose. You have veterans committing suicide. You have

36:26

suicide and depression and anxiety spreading like wildfire

36:29

across this country. Yeah, I don't know how

36:31

to deal with that, but let me just

36:33

focus on climate change from the mountaintop to

36:35

Davos. Let me worry about Ukraine's border and

36:38

somebody else's invasion across somebody else's border,

36:40

rather than actually look in the mirror and taking

36:42

care of our own border invasion right here at

36:44

home. From my perspective, it looks like they're just

36:46

pocketing the money that they're taxing us while pretending

36:49

that they're good people. Well, that's definitely the people

36:51

on top, right? But that trick only works if

36:53

our culture is able to be exploited into it.

36:55

So I think for our culture, what's happening for

36:57

the people we're buying this up is it's

37:00

a form of you can't solve what's right

37:02

in front of you. So let me at

37:04

least feel good about myself about something that's

37:07

distant, because even if it hasn't been solved,

37:09

the further away it is, the more I can convince

37:11

myself that it was solved and that

37:13

I contributed to doing some good anyway. Now the

37:15

people on top, I mean, they're all bought and

37:17

paid for them. It's all corruption all the way

37:19

down. You look at the way that the very

37:21

people who are advocating for more war in Ukraine

37:23

include people who have interests in military contracting firms

37:25

that make more money from going to war. You

37:28

have the lobbying effect of people. Why is lobby

37:30

legal? It shouldn't be. I mean, somebody should explain

37:32

to me why it is in the public interest.

37:34

That is, I'll tell you why, I'm gonna tell

37:36

you mechanically why it's legal. It's legal because the

37:38

people who have to vote against it are

37:41

the very people who are benefiting from being lobbyists

37:43

afterwards. So if I was president, I mean, it's

37:45

a mafia. It's what it is. It's a cartel.

37:48

Okay, it's a cartel running our government. I don't

37:51

think you should be able to lobby the government

37:53

for 10 years after you left the government. I

37:55

don't think you should be allowed to trade individual

37:58

stocks. If you're a congressman or a bureaucrat. that's

38:00

regulating different industries, I don't think you should

38:02

be able to join the board of a

38:04

company for at least 10 years after

38:06

you've left that government if you've been actually doing

38:08

business with that company. I mean, that was my

38:10

issue with Nikki Haley and the debates. She joins

38:12

the board of Boeing. Literally her first act after

38:14

leaving the government is joining the board of Boeing.

38:16

And she was bankrupt before that. Oh, and by

38:18

the way, she had done special favors for Boeing

38:20

the entire time that she was in government at

38:22

the tune of 100 million dollars. You tell me

38:24

they weren't waiting nice and warm with a well-paid

38:26

board seat right afterwards. And

38:29

Republicans do it, Democrats do it. So I'm

38:31

gonna say no trading of individual stocks, no

38:33

joining boards, no lobbying, add term

38:35

limits for the congressmen as well. I

38:38

would end the super PACs, the system that allow

38:40

you to pay millions of dollars to donate to

38:42

a candidate, even though the technical limit is 3300

38:45

because you use a separate vehicle to do it

38:47

that's happening in our politics. How does this advance

38:50

the interest of the American people? There's

38:52

no good answer to that question. So

38:54

here's how I would have done it if I was

38:56

elected president. And this is how I think it still

38:58

can be done. I

39:00

hate doing it this way, but this would work. Is

39:03

you tell the people in Congress, okay, here's the

39:05

deal, no lobbying for 10 years until after you've

39:07

left the government. I would say no lobbying at

39:09

all if you could get there. No trading of

39:11

individual stocks, all of that. But as

39:14

a concession for you voting for it, it

39:17

doesn't apply to you for the people who are already here.

39:20

You're grandfathered in. It only applies to people who

39:22

come after you. Because then you divide

39:24

them. Totally, it's the same story

39:27

that you just told. And you know what, those money hungry efforts

39:29

are gonna be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just doing

39:31

good, we're good. This is popular,

39:33

but I'm protected because it's not against my own

39:35

self-interest. Nice, right, thanks. So you gotta use, you

39:37

gotta feed their ego. And

39:40

so I'm a businessman, I'm not a politician, but

39:42

I'm also a pragmatist. If you want

39:44

a country and you wanna build it right, go look

39:46

at a man who's building something. Absolutely, who's actually created

39:48

things in the world. It's not a bad, and our

39:50

founding fathers did that. Thomas

39:53

Jefferson, he was the, obviously

39:56

the founding father of third president of the

39:58

United States wrote the Declaration of Independence. He

40:00

also invented the swivel chair while he was at

40:02

it. He was an inventor of a bundle.

40:04

He invented, he actually invented an early version of the polygraph

40:06

test. A lot of people don't know that. Benjamin

40:09

Franklin assigned the Declaration of Independence. He invented

40:11

the Franklin stove, actually old model of stove.

40:13

That last thing you mentioned, isn't that the

40:15

lie detector? Yeah. Yeah. Do you think this

40:17

man knew that we might need that? I

40:20

think he knew something about what he was putting in the

40:22

motion. I wasn't even trying to be a jokester. Oh, absolutely. He

40:24

was politicians in his day too. So I think he knew a little something about

40:26

the need for that. I think he was in the mud and he was like,

40:28

oh, this could get a lot more outrageous. This could get pretty interesting.

40:30

Yeah. I want to circle to

40:32

hunger, right? As a Christian man, I always want to make

40:35

sure that people are fed, but I also don't, I don't

40:37

like encouraging people to be lazy. When you

40:39

see the people that served our military,

40:41

that sacrificed their life for this flag,

40:43

can't have any money to feed

40:46

themselves, but we're giving everybody stimulus

40:48

checks. I just, I can't grab

40:50

this in my mind. And the second one is

40:52

this. I worked in the food industry growing up.

40:54

Do you have any idea how much just one

40:56

restaurant throws away food? Oh, probably

40:58

a ton. A ton. So they're rushing our

41:00

animals to get beheaded and they treat them

41:02

like crop and they destroy their farms to

41:04

rush them into the trash can. They're quick

41:06

to take our money when we buy it

41:08

for taxing, but they're not going to tax

41:10

the people that waste money. So

41:13

you're setting up the country for failure. So

41:15

when you say, hey, you're going to pay

41:17

$2 extra to buy this chicken,

41:19

but at the end of the day, you know that that

41:21

restaurant's going to throw maybe 500 chickens away. And

41:24

they're going to do that tomorrow. And so is

41:26

everybody on that block. Why

41:29

are they so concerned with taking more money out of

41:31

your pocket without taxing or penalizing people that

41:33

throw away food? So you don't even

41:35

have to throw it away. You could pick it up and give it to the shelter.

41:37

So that way we're not having shelter food and

41:39

it's division. So what I'm saying is I feel

41:42

like everything that they put us in is a

41:44

trap to make us pay for it later. Divide

41:46

and conquer is indeed the way of the elites

41:48

exercising a lot of power in this country. But

41:50

one thing I'll say is, I

41:53

think there's a different kind of hunger that I'm also

41:55

interested in. And it relates to your point about work.

41:58

Is I think that all Whether

42:00

you're just hungry, you have people hungry on the

42:02

streets, sure, but I think all of us right

42:04

now are hungry for that sense

42:06

of higher purpose. And so we've

42:09

lost – we have a hunger for meaning.

42:11

That's not being satisfied at a moment where

42:13

God and family and faith and belief and

42:15

country and patriotism disappear. But

42:18

part of how we actually address hunger in

42:20

the literal sense is actually bring

42:22

back the concepts that satisfy our hunger for purpose

42:24

in the first place, like hard work. So

42:27

I think it's not compassionate. I think

42:29

it's cruelty to pay people

42:31

more money to stay at home instead of

42:33

to go to work. A lot of those

42:36

same restaurants that are throwing away that extra

42:38

food, well, one of the rate

42:41

limiters that stops them from being able to expand

42:43

and serve food to more people is

42:45

the fact that they can't find enough people to

42:47

hire to fill most of

42:49

their open positions. So most restaurants that they

42:52

want to expand today, one of

42:54

the top obstacles is filling those open positions. Why

42:56

is it hard to fill those open positions? Because

42:58

our government is actually paying people more money to

43:00

stay at home instead of to go to work

43:03

in the name of compassion. Now, in

43:06

the short term, might that allow somebody to

43:08

buy food that they might not have afforded?

43:10

Maybe. That's a justification. But actually, that's also

43:12

what's driving an epidemic of depression and loneliness.

43:15

You sit in your parents' basement smoking pot, playing

43:17

video games. You're not

43:19

actually satisfying your own purpose or meaning, and

43:21

that's why the very reason the restaurant is

43:23

actually having a lot of hard time finding

43:25

an extra person to fill that open position,

43:27

which in turn creates that cycle of waste.

43:30

And so it's not like we

43:32

can just look at one of those elements and say

43:34

we're just going to fix this as a

43:36

band-aid solution. We have to take a

43:39

look holistically at what's happening, and part

43:41

of what's happening is we have lost

43:43

our ethos in this country of getting

43:45

ahead through hard work and

43:47

commitment and dedication. That the government

43:49

has actually used our taxpayer money, the money that

43:52

they're taxing, to pay people to do

43:54

the opposite of. That's a big part

43:56

of what has created, I think, a flailing

43:59

economy. it leaves in its wake

44:01

from veterans to other individuals who

44:03

are in need of food or

44:06

suffering from increasing amount even the US

44:08

of starvation. Part of that

44:10

comes from the loss of the first principle of

44:13

hard work as something that we cultivate and value

44:15

in the country in the first place. So that's

44:17

how I look at it is not gonna look

44:19

at isolated solutions but look at the holistic picture.

44:21

Have you seen have you seen LA in the

44:23

homeless problem? Oh yeah. Okay. Have you ever walked

44:25

up to them? In San Francisco, yeah. And talk

44:27

to them? They literally say why should I work?

44:30

Mm-hmm. If I get two iPhones? Yep.

44:32

If I get food? Totally. If I

44:34

get a transportation? Remember

44:37

when I said- Human bearing with rod incentives. Yes. Do

44:39

you remember when I said sparing the rod? Yeah. No

44:41

one gave them the rod. Mm-hmm. If you go to

44:43

another country and you're homeless you're going straight to jail.

44:46

Why? Because they're not putting up with that. Why are

44:48

they putting up with that? And everybody wants to blame

44:50

a mental illness. I hate to break it to people.

44:53

Everybody has a mental illness. Everybody does. You know

44:55

what that's called? A problem that

44:57

you have to overcome. Mm-hmm. But if you

44:59

just throw money at it to go away,

45:01

you're not overcoming it. I agree

45:04

with you wholeheartedly that we're using money to pay

45:06

people to do the exact

45:08

opposite of what's even best for them. Right?

45:10

More money not to go to work instead

45:12

of to go to work. But even bringing

45:14

this back to the family, we're paying single

45:17

mothers more money not to have a man

45:19

in the house than to have that married

45:21

man in the house. Why do you think they're doing that? I

45:23

think because it's because they want to exercise power, dominion,

45:25

control, and punishment. Yeah. Because if a man's not controlling

45:28

the house, something else is. Uncle Sam is. Yeah. Right?

45:30

So the woman's saying, I'd rather be married to Uncle

45:32

Sam because he's writing me a bigger check than whatever

45:34

you are. Mm-hmm. You see that in the inner cities

45:36

across this country. And so that allows

45:38

Uncle Sam to exercise more power over the household

45:40

than the real Sam who was actually in there

45:42

who got booted because the woman had more of

45:45

an incentive to collect the check from the government

45:47

than she did from actually being a member of

45:49

a stable married household. And that's exactly why fatherlessness

45:52

has gone up dramatically over

45:54

the last six decades because you get what you actually

45:56

pay for in this country. Now 25% of kids are

45:58

born into a household without

46:00

a father in that house. So in

46:02

a certain sense it's not surprising you get what

46:05

you pay for, that's what we're paying for and

46:07

therefore that's what we're getting. And

46:09

then the kids because you don't have both of

46:11

those figures, I mean a woman and a man

46:13

brings two very different values to a child, then

46:15

our kids are losing part of the

46:17

hard work. You know I feel like in a father figure he

46:19

teaches you like okay let's go outside in the yard, let's get

46:22

this work done, you do this right, you bring so many different

46:24

things into your character and so you

46:26

lose that then that's we're also ripping

46:29

that from people and our generation. And

46:31

it becomes a cycle downward

46:33

cycle. I grew up in an environment where

46:36

I came from a very established neighborhood, my

46:38

parents did well. They're immigrants but

46:40

they figured it out and but

46:42

my dad's one of his stores or is in the

46:44

liquor store and guess out of all the places they

46:46

wanted me to work, they wanted me to work there

46:48

because they want me to taste what

46:51

hard work and nothing out of that

46:53

comes from. My dad would make me

46:55

work a week like I'm talking

46:57

from the sunrise to the sunsets

47:00

for a hundred bucks and my friends are

47:02

getting like a thousand bucks a month for free, just nothing. And

47:05

I sat there and I and I and I learned

47:07

from the opposite ends. I learned what it looks like

47:09

to be spoiled and have nothing to work for and

47:11

I and I saw what it looks like to work

47:14

every single day with your with your

47:16

sleeves rolled high but you have enough for the next

47:18

day. And I saw a lot of things

47:20

that that broke my heart. When I found

47:22

out that the government chips in for mothers

47:24

and fathers that have children though and they

47:26

don't have a good income, I

47:28

got so excited. I got so excited. I was

47:30

like yes finally our country's doing something for these

47:32

people. My dad started laughing his ass off. He

47:34

goes you want to see what this does? Come

47:37

and he showed me a bunch of our employees

47:40

neighborhoods and we walked in and my father takes

47:42

care of the neighborhood around him. So if he

47:45

finds out that a man went to prison and

47:47

he was a good customer he would make sure

47:49

that there was bread on their table while he

47:51

was gone. So I walked around and I saw

47:54

the separation of people that wanted to work to

47:56

achieve more and then I saw a separation of

47:58

a different type of Class

48:00

where they were purposely getting pregnant hmm

48:03

and sticking all these kids in one bedroom So

48:06

they could get a monthly residual They

48:09

used their own system to benefit,

48:11

but they're they're putting these kids through hell

48:14

I walked into that house it smelled so bad. I

48:17

couldn't even believe how bad it smelled I

48:19

couldn't stand in the room and These

48:22

are the people that are coming and grabbing four

48:24

locos and they're grabbing beer and they're grabbing swisher

48:26

sweets off the money that their Children have in

48:28

their house. So what I want to say is

48:30

thank God that there is a place where if

48:32

there is Unfortunately a woman who's raising children and

48:34

she needs help, but can I ask you something?

48:37

Why isn't there anybody following up to see how

48:39

these kids are being treated? That's

48:43

fascinating man. I mean it's a good the right question. I

48:45

ask you I

48:47

want to finish this up if you're gonna make

48:49

sure that you're accountable before we give you life

48:51

before you adopt We got it We're gonna run

48:53

through every single thing you have in your house

48:55

But you're telling me now that these people are

48:57

popping out babies and you're not checking in on

48:59

this family that you're giving money to Every month

49:02

there's not one person's job to go and hey

49:04

make sure that this kid has his own room

49:06

has his own meal Has owned socks dude the

49:08

guys didn't have socks that stuck with me They

49:10

didn't have socks and yet now I'm

49:12

at the cash register giving them their alcohol

49:14

knowing that their kids on a fucking

49:17

socks Mm-hmm. How is this fair?

49:19

Yeah to anybody. It's not compassion. It's

49:21

cruelty. It's throwing money out of problem They don't

49:23

give a shit about that's right. That's right. And

49:25

it goes back to it's kind of like that

49:28

same impulse of Escapism

49:30

that I was talking about which is give your

49:32

money to Ukraine, right? Doesn't matter that

49:34

you're solving the problem there or not your problems right here

49:36

at home It's a way of

49:38

taking an action that makes you feel

49:41

Like you did something which is an

49:43

illusion when in fact you're doing nothing

49:45

or worse Nothing or

49:48

worse in the process the school system

49:50

failed kids because how are we getting

49:52

out at the age of 18? Not

49:55

even knowing anything, but I'm 31 years old

49:57

and I'm playing catch-up. Mm-hmm. I I

50:00

don't know anything that's going on and I'm

50:02

trying my best to be humble and accurate

50:04

and a hard worker But we're

50:06

teaching kids Latin. That's a dead language that no

50:08

one's ever used in their life But

50:11

they're not gonna teach them how to pay their taxes You're

50:13

gonna teach I think we're teaching them none of them none of the

50:15

above nothing They're not we're teaching none

50:17

of them We're teaching them neither how

50:20

to pay their taxes or how to actually do accounting

50:22

nor how to know how to Latin either you're saying

50:24

Well, I think we're how do we get there because

50:26

this is what happens, right? You know how you wanted

50:29

to play chess Hey, it's a split you guys get

50:31

fathered in what our children are our future. Mm-hmm. So

50:33

why don't we start educating our children? Yep, that's where

50:35

I would hit. I don't even care. I would see

50:37

this as a lost cause these people are shaking hands

50:39

with each other I want to educate

50:42

the children to say hey your fathers

50:44

aren't doing well Mm-hmm, you need to get educated

50:46

because they're separating you guys when I see I'm

50:48

seeing my own citizens of America How did we

50:50

get to a place where me and you were

50:53

born where our parents would look and be like

50:55

you have no idea? What kind of country you're

50:57

in and now I'm looking around and I'm seeing

50:59

people tear each other down We're on the same

51:02

team. Mm-hmm. We are on the same TV and

51:04

we lost is other countries Interfering

51:06

with our social media to tear us apart

51:08

some of them are absolutely But

51:11

I think that we can't just blame it on somebody else.

51:13

Right? I think that I think it's easy to

51:15

point that's happening But

51:19

we got to look within and ask ourselves What

51:22

is it that makes us fall for the trick?

51:25

Right a nation of sheep is what breeds

51:27

a government of wolves, right? And so we

51:29

can blame the wolves either our own government

51:31

or actors from the outside But

51:34

I think the harder question is what

51:36

is it inside each of us that makes

51:38

us want to bend the knee in that

51:40

way? and I think that that

51:42

goes back to that fundamental loss of Purpose

51:46

grounding mooring we're rudderless

51:48

right now Bring

51:50

back the value of each individual

51:52

the value of the family of

51:55

the nation state that I'm a

51:57

citizen of this nation Not another

51:59

one that it is one nation under

52:01

God that I believe in something bigger than myself.

52:03

Once we ground ourselves in that, then you know

52:05

what? It's going to be pretty hard for

52:08

somebody else coming in from the outside to

52:10

divide you when you're actually

52:12

grounded in your own convictions. And so, yes,

52:15

there's a million things from the top down that

52:17

I've written about in my books and elsewhere and

52:20

talk about in the campaign about how we have

52:22

corrupt government actors working with companies and tech companies

52:24

to do through the back door when they couldn't

52:26

go through the front door, the effects of China

52:28

or other countries manipulating and artificially using social media

52:31

to sow division in our country. Yes,

52:33

it's real. But

52:38

it's still only –

52:40

that trick only works if we

52:42

let it work because we've left

52:44

ourselves so vulnerable and exposed to

52:46

exploitation. And I think where I'm

52:48

moving now is much more less

52:50

focused on the external. That

52:53

becomes a lot easier to deal with if we've

52:55

actually dealt with the vacuum of the

52:57

internal in the first place. And

53:00

it's not just going to be through politics. I mean, it comes

53:02

through, I think, actually having open

53:04

conversations in the next generation that's been taught to

53:06

shut up and sit down. I think it's the

53:08

pendulum coming back. I think it is. John F.

53:11

Kennedy had an amazing quote. He said, stop asking

53:13

what the country could do for you, but

53:15

what you could do for the country. And

53:18

I think we need that. Not only

53:20

that, I think – there was a thing

53:22

my mom would tell me when I'm

53:24

hopeless and I'm lost and I'm

53:26

confused. And I pray, man, that

53:28

this really answers people's ears, especially

53:32

people that know who God is. Stop

53:37

telling God how big your problems

53:39

are and start telling your problems

53:41

how big your God is. I

53:44

love that. We need faith

53:46

in this country. We

53:48

need it more than ever. I'm

53:50

tired. I'm tired of seeing

53:52

amazing people around me. But

53:56

I know that we're the laughingstock of other countries

53:58

because we are so – divided when

54:00

we have a perfect opportunity to

54:03

not be divided. We have all the resources, we

54:05

have all the power. It just breaks my heart

54:07

that, you know what this country is? I'll put

54:09

it in a good term. This is what I

54:11

feel and I truly feel this with all my

54:13

heart. I believe that God is a

54:15

God that will answer. When you pray with all

54:17

your heart, He answers. And I believe that all

54:20

the blessings that we see with our feet up

54:22

and the stimulus checks and the fortnight

54:24

with the smoking of the weed and we're all

54:26

living like kings and queens because I believe that

54:29

the men and women that built this country prayed

54:31

to a God that their children would be

54:33

blessed. But we're running out of time because

54:36

that prayer wasn't answered for us. It was

54:38

answered for the men and women that were

54:40

rolling up their sleeves, getting to work and

54:42

fearing God. So we're gonna get to a

54:44

point right at the edge where everything's gonna

54:47

fall over. And I really

54:49

think that now it's not about war, it's

54:51

not about our tax, it's not about our

54:53

leader. We got to make sure that our

54:55

eyes are on a fundamental that we could

54:57

all live by and you could believe that

54:59

Jesus is your God or not. But go

55:01

look how He changed the world without raising

55:04

one sword. Mm-hmm. The whole world,

55:06

not one weapon. It's exactly

55:09

right. Now I think that that

55:11

spirit is something that we're missing today actually. But

55:13

how do we bring that, but what would you

55:16

say is the way to

55:18

bring it back? I mean for me I think it takes

55:20

more people willing to talk

55:22

about their faith in the open. We need heart. We

55:24

all don't care anymore and we don't have heart into

55:26

it and so we're not pouring our passion and caring

55:29

for our neighbors and really caring about what the outcome

55:31

is. Same thing that comes back to giving people checks

55:33

but then there's no one checking in on those homes,

55:35

making sure that everything is good with them. Because that

55:37

could help all our families. You know like I come

55:40

from my mom had you know we had to leave

55:42

my father and so she was the one raising us.

55:44

But that was truly like a situation where it was

55:46

difficult. My mom had to roll up her sleeves and

55:48

she started back from scratch. She could have used some

55:51

of that help. But not,

55:53

but it's unfortunate that there are situations like

55:55

that where it's like some people really do

55:57

truly need the help but then other people

55:59

are kind of ruining every other's and taking

56:01

advantage of it. But if we had more people

56:03

with heart and who cared and who had something

56:06

that they feared, then we would eliminate so many

56:08

of these issues, right? I think a good way

56:10

of starting out, and that was unbelievably beautiful,

56:12

and you inspired me to say this, is

56:15

stop preaching with your mouth. I mean, that's the

56:17

first step, preach by your actions. Yeah, what do

56:20

you do? You wanna see a man who knows

56:22

God, know him by his fruits. What

56:24

is he doing for the people around him? How

56:26

is he providing with his energy, not even just his

56:28

work, how is he talking to the people around

56:30

him? I saw your guys' debate, and

56:32

to be honest, it looked like a comedy roast.

56:34

It looked like you guys were just ripping each

56:36

other apart, which is hilarious, but those are our

56:38

leaders. So if our leaders- That's what TV does

56:40

to you. But if our leaders are tearing each

56:42

other down, how are we not gonna tear each other

56:45

down? That's the only question I

56:47

have. And the beauty of this is that I

56:49

actually think our country is not nearly as divided

56:51

as we're taught to believe. I

56:53

mean, TV and social media

56:55

creates a projection of division that I can

56:57

tell you from being in roomfuls

57:00

of hundreds of people across this country from Ohio,

57:02

where we are now, to Iowa, to where I've

57:04

been, everywhere else. I

57:06

think 80 plus percent of us in

57:08

this country actually share the same

57:10

foundational values and values. I agree with you. Television

57:12

is television. And I see that on purpose. television

57:14

is television. It really is. television, right? It's

57:17

a war factor. So when you said, how do

57:19

we get that- It's fake division. It's

57:21

one, waking up. Yeah, just seeing what's actually

57:23

true. Two, working with your chest out. But

57:25

you know what's beautiful about when I keep

57:27

telling people to put it in God's hands?

57:30

Everybody in the ball, David, who ran a

57:32

beautiful country was a shepherd's boy. He

57:34

was a nobody. The father didn't even

57:37

bring him to present him as an option. So

57:39

that should remind you, I don't care where you're

57:41

at in life, I don't care where you could

57:43

be in your mom's basement smoking and repaying Fortnite.

57:45

Good, start using your prayer. But most importantly, start

57:48

acting like how you want the people around

57:50

you to start acting. Stop waiting for the

57:52

person to be a good person. Start being

57:55

the good person. If you see somebody talking

57:57

about Joe Biden and they're tearing him down

57:59

and you- want to vote for Trump, be

58:01

a good representative of Trump and say, Hey, stop

58:03

tearing down Joe Biden. We're together. Start facing what

58:05

you don't like about Joe. Then we could discuss

58:08

it, but tearing down each other is not going

58:10

to get anywhere. It's not going to get anywhere.

58:12

If there's one, two, three, four, five, six people

58:14

in this room, and I kill off three because

58:16

I don't like the way that they're acting and

58:18

another country comes and brings 10, 15, 20, they

58:21

all get along. We're

58:24

destroyed because we're divided. So we need to

58:26

start. If you, you're asking me, how do

58:29

we start by setting a good example,

58:31

watching your mouth, seeing if somebody irritates you,

58:33

don't tear them down. Let's build them up.

58:36

Uh, and I think that's the only way that we

58:38

could get ourselves back. It's kind of like this. Come

58:40

on. If you really think somebody's

58:42

beneath you, instead of sitting on them, come

58:44

on, come with me. Cause if you had

58:46

that attitude, I think that we would get

58:49

along. And also we're having a respectful conversation,

58:51

right? We agree on a lot of things,

58:53

but if I disagreed with you, how much

58:55

eager would you be to work with me,

58:57

do another episode? We're opening up eyes. If

58:59

I'm shooting on you. Not very

59:01

much. Not. But if I say, Hey, I

59:03

disagree with you on this, this, and that,

59:05

but hey, uh, explain to me your position.

59:07

Now imagine if I came to you by

59:09

asking what you're coming from and caring from

59:11

where you're coming from. And then now that

59:13

I know where you're at, mean you could walk

59:16

to where I am. And then you could make

59:18

your own fair play, but me not even giving

59:20

a shit where you came from, that's something that's

59:22

an abomination of a man. Yeah. I do think

59:24

that modern social media does play into that, that

59:27

dimension of it, because, you

59:30

know, something gets amplified or television too, in

59:32

terms of number of views and advertisers, et

59:34

cetera, there's a part

59:36

of us in each of us that wants this, that

59:38

wants what you described, but

59:41

I think that there's a, the part of

59:43

us that mostly guides people towards acting ends

59:46

up being in the shortest term, whether they click

59:48

on something, whether they change the channel or not

59:51

is not something that actually pleads

59:53

to their inner desire for unity, but

59:56

something that pleads to their inner desire

59:58

for division, even artificial. where none exists.

1:00:00

And so it comes back to a lot

1:00:03

of our own nature where if you

1:00:05

look at, I don't know, which tweet gets the most

1:00:07

likes, right? It's actually one

1:00:09

that it's not focused on building somebody

1:00:11

up. It's focused

1:00:13

on what actually tears somebody down. And

1:00:16

so it comes

1:00:18

back to that inner vacuum and void that I

1:00:20

think there is a side of each of us

1:00:22

that the deeper true

1:00:24

self wants what you describe. That

1:00:27

there's a superficial version of self that

1:00:29

guides us to behave in

1:00:32

ways that are not really helpful to

1:00:34

our own values in the long run,

1:00:37

but our short-term impulsive behavior

1:00:40

is really the backbone of creating much

1:00:43

of the modern digital

1:00:45

economy that creates that

1:00:47

conflict where 80% of

1:00:50

us actually do share those same foundational values

1:00:52

in common. But the way that

1:00:54

we behave in the short run in terms of how quickly

1:00:56

I'm going to click on A versus B is

1:00:58

guided not by that shared commonality of

1:01:01

value, but a short-term

1:01:03

impulse within me that's

1:01:05

different from the true me, right?

1:01:08

And so then our society, even though 80% of

1:01:10

us are united, appears to

1:01:13

be different than what that true country really

1:01:15

is. Does that make sense? It does. And

1:01:17

biblically, do you know what the Bible says

1:01:19

about impulsive people? What does the Bible

1:01:21

say about it? They're fools. Well, all of us

1:01:23

are fools then, I think. 99% of us are. Actually,

1:01:26

you know what too? And I feel like- Because I

1:01:28

think most of us are impulsive people. Yeah, definitely. And I

1:01:30

think one of the first things that we need to do

1:01:32

is become aware that we are this way once we are

1:01:34

aware of it, because actually it's something that we were working

1:01:36

on ourselves. We told ourselves, you know what? We need to

1:01:38

stop gossiping. No gossip when you're with people, when you're a

1:01:40

group of friends. We don't need to be gossiping other people,

1:01:42

talking crap and all that stuff, right? It's a very easy

1:01:44

thing that we all do in conversations because it's easy to

1:01:46

relate with someone. Oh, you're just like this person? Yeah, me

1:01:48

too. And once we started working

1:01:51

on this and ourselves, we realized it. I

1:01:53

noticed, like I was in conversations with some friends of

1:01:55

mine. I hadn't seen them in a bit. I was

1:01:57

like, my skin was cray. Rawling

1:02:00

because I had no responses to what

1:02:02

this person was talking to me about

1:02:04

because all it was was gossip and

1:02:06

negativity And talking about other people but

1:02:08

unfortunately This person wasn't aware

1:02:10

of it And if you're not aware of the problem

1:02:12

and the thing that you are used to doing then

1:02:14

you can't fix it and then now Imagine

1:02:17

what you just described in the

1:02:19

bilateral conversation Being

1:02:22

algorithmically amplified where there's 10 million

1:02:24

people quickly deciding what they hit

1:02:26

like on versus not that

1:02:28

then creates a

1:02:31

dominant Character

1:02:34

That actually is different than what most people

1:02:37

in a peaceful state of mind would say they actually want for

1:02:39

themselves Even that person who you're

1:02:41

talking to who's your friend or whoever you haven't seen in a long

1:02:43

time That might have

1:02:45

been her impulse in the moment. I

1:02:47

don't know her. I don't know who noticed but my

1:02:50

guess is if You

1:02:52

caught her on a truer version of herself.

1:02:54

Hey is you know? What's important to

1:02:56

you? Is it engaging in some sort of

1:02:59

cheap chat gossip? That's you know? Tearing

1:03:01

somebody else down for the heck of it because it feels good

1:03:04

in the moment and gives you a serotonin hit or Is

1:03:07

it to actually find commonality of purpose

1:03:09

amongst your community even in those

1:03:11

people who you disagree with? To

1:03:14

create something that you otherwise wouldn't have that's

1:03:16

productive and powerful and healthy in

1:03:18

the world. She would say that But

1:03:21

her short-term action just like most of us are the same way

1:03:24

the same with us It's

1:03:27

just our nature as human beings, but we stopped

1:03:29

working on each other and so how do how

1:03:31

do we I

1:03:33

think that we're less successful For

1:03:36

me at least if we try to

1:03:38

flog ourselves for that and say don't be that

1:03:40

way don't be that way Versus

1:03:42

acknowledging that we're fallen

1:03:45

And there are elements of us that are

1:03:47

going to always have the impulse I don't

1:03:49

think I don't think you're going to ever

1:03:51

correct for an impulse by scolding somebody out of

1:03:53

it. Amen Right, so just recognize that we have

1:03:56

it and that's your freedom. I'm gonna sit there

1:03:58

and be like, oh relax Oh my

1:04:00

God, that's not gonna work. That's not gonna work. So right this

1:04:02

is this is a Beautiful

1:04:05

thing you said because this is exactly

1:04:07

what Jesus did Hmm,

1:04:09

he never he condemned their actions, but

1:04:11

he never condemned the person. Yeah, or the element

1:04:13

of it Yeah, when we were giving this influence

1:04:15

to people I wasn't like yo quit the jib

1:04:17

jab, bro That's above like, you know me like

1:04:19

I that's not how I behaved I would be

1:04:21

like hey, you know, I'm actually working on myself

1:04:23

right now and I'm limiting the gossip talk I

1:04:25

don't want to talk down about people. I brought

1:04:28

it to me. Yeah I'm

1:04:30

trying myself if they want to hang out with

1:04:32

me in the room or if they want to go

1:04:34

in the direction that I'm going They have to carry

1:04:36

themselves with respect. Right? Yeah, so I'm a respect George

1:04:39

because he's working on this So I'm gonna work

1:04:41

on this and guess what when she worked on

1:04:43

this after I brought this up Then she realized

1:04:45

oh her friends do this and now she could

1:04:47

genuinely bring it up as a concern about herself

1:04:49

to her friends And now we're friends see what's

1:04:51

happening here. It's starting to move out of the

1:04:53

circle But it didn't start by me being like

1:04:55

hey Vivek. You need to watch your mouth. It

1:04:57

went like hey Vivek I'm here as a student.

1:04:59

I'm learning from you and I'm working

1:05:01

on my gossip. I'm doing this now You

1:05:04

respect me and you're saying okay, let's work on

1:05:06

this together and now you're taking that turn But

1:05:08

it's different from me scolding you when you

1:05:10

know yourself that I do that too, right?

1:05:12

Exactly. So we all acknowledge that about ourselves

1:05:14

acknowledge that rather people around us and

1:05:16

you invite people to You

1:05:19

know, maybe allow their own inner lion

1:05:21

rather than their sheep to actually be

1:05:23

what? guides their action and

1:05:26

I think that that's where we are right now is there's there's

1:05:28

a lion and there's a sheep inside each of Us and

1:05:31

I think that if we allow that inner lion to

1:05:33

awaken itself in ourselves and those who are around us

1:05:35

I think the more likely we are to get our

1:05:38

Country and our society and ourselves back in the

1:05:40

process and I think God is a great aid

1:05:42

in that process So if you

1:05:44

don't believe in the why reject the aid that's

1:05:46

it's you brought up an interesting point I had

1:05:48

a philosophy professor once who he's

1:05:51

an atheist, but he says no way

1:05:53

but he But always are but

1:05:55

his recommendation exactly of course, right but he's recommend

1:05:57

it but he was he was talking to the

1:05:59

students classroom to say when you have kids I

1:06:02

would still recommend that you raise them with a belief

1:06:04

in God because you do not believe in God you

1:06:06

cannot deny his works

1:06:11

you can see a okay let me give you an

1:06:13

example would you if you found out that this guy's

1:06:15

smoking pot and playing for now all the time would

1:06:17

you let your kids go be babysit by him or

1:06:20

would you want the Christian man that you know his

1:06:22

values are great take a Christian man okay so that

1:06:24

there's there's proof in the works now let me circle

1:06:26

back to to

1:06:28

fatherhood because the way you carry

1:06:31

yourself is very honorable I really respect you

1:06:33

because you're honest and I really really

1:06:35

respect an honest man and just to let you know I would

1:06:37

have voted for you I truly truly would have voted for you

1:06:39

and I waited till now to get you know you a little

1:06:41

bit more but I truly would have voted for you I

1:06:44

want to know now how are you carrying yourself

1:06:46

as a father when you're raising your two kids

1:06:48

what are you doing what are you trying to

1:06:50

separate their actions versus the kids around them's actions

1:06:53

yeah I think maybe it's starting maybe picking up

1:06:55

right where we left off let's not worry about

1:06:57

the kids around them for a second and let's

1:07:00

sort of start with the only

1:07:02

impulses that we recognize in our kids one of

1:07:05

the things that a poor van I try to work on is you

1:07:08

can see a lot of those we use

1:07:10

the word impulses earlier those are wired into

1:07:12

our nature from much of a young age

1:07:15

and some of this is we set boundaries

1:07:17

so we've done something with our older son it actually

1:07:19

he sees three years old right but it kind of

1:07:21

works where he gets to make

1:07:23

the choices right so we have we have an

1:07:25

imaginary system of like play money in the house

1:07:28

right okay so if he wants to actually wear

1:07:30

his own shoes he actually earns a

1:07:32

little bit of money in the process now is that

1:07:34

because we're teaching him to value money or the things

1:07:36

money can buy no it's less that but more the

1:07:38

system of understanding that if I do something right that

1:07:41

I am rewarded in some way for doing

1:07:43

it and if I am going to

1:07:45

be disrespectful to somebody around me or to my little

1:07:47

brother or whatever well you

1:07:50

know what you lose your money as that same

1:07:52

consequence and so I love that yeah and even

1:07:54

and even some of the things he feels you

1:07:56

know insecure about like many kids do right is you're

1:07:59

going to sleep at night. It's like one of

1:08:01

the most difficult things because you worry about, you

1:08:03

know, being alone. I think that's

1:08:05

every kid's great fear. Well,

1:08:08

we've given him a chance to say

1:08:10

that on those occasions, right, if he's

1:08:13

done a good day's worth of work, he gets to sleep in

1:08:15

mom and dad's bed, you know, on that night. And

1:08:17

he feels a sense of security. But on a day where he

1:08:19

hasn't necessarily done that, he has a

1:08:21

chance to reflect on what that was and we will

1:08:23

put him to bed on his own terms. And that

1:08:25

almost was a way of actually overcoming a fear

1:08:27

of something completely different, right? You're afraid you're in the

1:08:29

dark in your own room. Am I all alone? But

1:08:32

instead actually gives him a sense of reflecting on, huh, maybe

1:08:35

if I had done things a little bit

1:08:37

differently today, then maybe I wouldn't be feeling

1:08:39

this way. But ironically, that actually allows him

1:08:41

to overcome his own fear of sleeping in

1:08:43

his room alone. You fixed his focus. Yeah,

1:08:46

it's a reframing. You fixed his focus. Are you

1:08:48

more concerned about your problems or are you now

1:08:50

more concerned about these new obstacles I put in

1:08:52

front of you? Okay, I got

1:08:54

to make dad happy and put my shoes on.

1:08:56

And that gives him his sense of empowerment actually

1:08:58

in the process too. It's just small things. But

1:09:00

I think one of the things I've learned about,

1:09:02

you know, I'm still only three years or three

1:09:04

and a half years into parenting, but one of

1:09:06

the things I've learned is framing matters

1:09:09

a lot actually. So even the same set

1:09:12

of facts, just how you frame them

1:09:14

for a kid. I think it goes for other aspects

1:09:16

of your life too, but it definitely goes for parenting

1:09:18

is the framing of the

1:09:20

same situation, same truth, same

1:09:22

reality, but the different framing of it can

1:09:24

often make all the difference along

1:09:27

the way. Did you give me an example?

1:09:29

Yeah, I think that, you

1:09:33

know, like, let's say he has done something

1:09:35

that he would, let's say he's his brother.

1:09:37

Okay. Framing as,

1:09:39

okay, this is something that

1:09:43

is like a hard boundary. I've tried

1:09:45

it both ways. Okay. There's a hard

1:09:47

boundary of something that you're not allowed

1:09:49

to do. That then becomes

1:09:51

then a question of being framed as,

1:09:53

okay, I did something that my father

1:09:55

saw me do that I shouldn't do,

1:09:57

but just being told by my father.

1:10:00

that I wasn't going to –

1:10:02

that he saw it is one framing of

1:10:04

it, which is just, okay, that's a rule, but I still

1:10:06

might break the rule sometimes, versus

1:10:08

a system in which we understand

1:10:10

that, okay, you

1:10:12

made a poor decision. Here's the consequences

1:10:14

of your decision, and you're going to

1:10:16

live with that consequence, right? Now,

1:10:19

whether or not I saw it,

1:10:21

the experience that sticks with you is the

1:10:23

consequence of what actually happened to you. That

1:10:26

allows him to think about the fact that, okay,

1:10:28

my actions actually have consequences, versus am

1:10:30

I following a strict rule that doesn't have any

1:10:32

consequences, other than the fact that I just got

1:10:34

yelled at for it. So I think

1:10:36

it's the same thing, the same situation, but how you frame

1:10:39

it in terms of is it something that actually has a

1:10:41

consequence to you, or is it something that you're going to

1:10:43

be scolded at? It's something that makes

1:10:45

all the difference in the world of guiding his actual behaviors,

1:10:47

and I bring that up in a kit. I mean, he's

1:10:49

a three-year-old kid, and we have no different than every three-year-old

1:10:51

does, but it's not that different

1:10:54

of a principle, even when we think about how

1:10:56

we structure society, how we structure the

1:10:58

framing of the challenges that we face every day,

1:11:00

even as teenagers or as young adults or as

1:11:02

adults of a different age, too. I think framing

1:11:05

makes all the difference. What

1:11:07

is it that you fear that your children are going to have to

1:11:09

deal with that we didn't have to deal with? I

1:11:14

think AI, I think, is a

1:11:16

big factor

1:11:18

that undoubtedly our kids are going

1:11:20

to deal with that is

1:11:22

something of a character that we never had to in

1:11:24

the same way, which is not just

1:11:27

computers. I mean, that's one of the things

1:11:29

we dealt with that the prior generation didn't

1:11:32

have to deal with, but computers are just,

1:11:34

without hyperintelligence or superintelligence, are just responding to

1:11:36

what we actually put right back in them.

1:11:39

That's one thing. You could say there's all kinds

1:11:41

of dangers from screen time or something else that apply to

1:11:43

our generation, but I'm talking about something else, which

1:11:46

is the idea of something

1:11:49

that emerges that is different than what you

1:11:51

fed that computer in the first place. Of

1:11:54

them having their own mind. Yes, exactly.

1:11:57

Then that mind is able to ...

1:12:00

take advantage of you in a way that you don't

1:12:02

realize that you're actually being take advantage of. I think

1:12:05

that's actually different. It's one thing if it's a human

1:12:07

being using an instrument to take advantage of you. It's

1:12:10

another if it is actually a being that was

1:12:12

programmed by your own very actions projected back against

1:12:14

you to take advantage of your own impulses or

1:12:17

your own behaviors that you didn't even know was

1:12:19

doing it. I think that's going to be one

1:12:21

of the great dangers that we face in the

1:12:23

next, certainly that our kids face in the next

1:12:26

20 years. I think it's inevitable. I

1:12:28

think when I see that I

1:12:30

see again I'll bring

1:12:32

it back to biblical terms history repeats

1:12:35

itself. God created humans, humans killed God.

1:12:37

Yes yeah I think and so

1:12:40

when we create another form of life I believe that's

1:12:42

when they kill us or another form of intelligence. Yeah

1:12:44

exactly. But even before we jump to the end all

1:12:48

the people that are working the nine

1:12:50

to five's all these people that are busting their

1:12:52

their hearts out the ones that they're throwing

1:12:55

money at because they know that that problem is

1:12:57

about to be solved when we replace them. I

1:13:00

think the separation from rich and poor

1:13:02

there'll be no more middle class and

1:13:05

I believe the only reason there was middle class

1:13:07

now is to scare, I mean poor before and

1:13:09

then middle class is to scare the middle class

1:13:11

into going poor. And I

1:13:13

think once they remove that it's going to be

1:13:15

the people that are really running this earth and

1:13:17

the robots and everybody else's servants. And

1:13:20

I think it's gonna be at a whole

1:13:22

different ballgame. I think that it's

1:13:25

not crazy a lot of people would hear what you say and they

1:13:27

could say that's just crazy talk. I don't think that's crazy talk. I

1:13:29

mean I think there's a lot of different ways it could play out.

1:13:32

It may not play out in the way since that there's

1:13:35

like robots with two legs that look

1:13:38

like you know Android objects. But

1:13:40

the spirit of what you said I think is pretty close

1:13:42

to how they're not there yet but

1:13:44

yeah well I mean dude Elon Musk is

1:13:46

building little robots. It doesn't even have to

1:13:48

be done in the way that those robots

1:13:51

necessarily look like humans. They just wreck the

1:13:53

internals. Those robots could just be whatever

1:13:55

has the ability to exert control over your mind or

1:13:57

behavior whether or not it looks like a human or

1:13:59

not. How do we how do we

1:14:01

like self a different way like a player that out?

1:14:03

I feel like that's a fire That's growing really quick

1:14:06

and we're all like, you know how you were saying

1:14:08

we won't deal with our problems. We'll deal with it

1:14:10

later Like

1:14:12

and I would hope somebody correct me, but

1:14:14

if I'm wrong But I'm pretty sure it was it was

1:14:16

a I'm not gonna even mention the company because I'm only

1:14:18

in trouble But there was a company that had an AI

1:14:21

Two a eyes and they shut them down because they created

1:14:23

their own language to speak together. Yep. Yep.

1:14:25

That's not unheard of Hey, man, that's a very Boundaries

1:14:28

no, I think I think one one thing we could do right

1:14:31

out of the gate is at least draw a boundary between NaI

1:14:34

driven product or algorithm and children. Let's just start

1:14:36

with that I'm not saying that's the end-all be-all

1:14:38

Yeah, but that's at least a starting point to

1:14:41

say that if you're actually using hyper intelligence or

1:14:43

super intelligence At least draw a

1:14:45

boundary between the interface of that product and children for

1:14:47

what it's worth If we can draw boundaries within ourselves,

1:14:49

how are we gonna do that? Oh,

1:14:51

exactly, but That's what

1:14:53

we got a first be able to draw boundaries within ourselves and

1:14:55

within you know, but we've already done it Right. We already say

1:14:58

that you can't smoke a cigarette before the age of 18 You

1:15:01

can't have an addictive out drink of alcohol by the age of

1:15:03

21 now How well do we enforce that we could we could

1:15:05

debate that but I think that you should

1:15:07

not you know Sexually inappropriate material below the age of 18

1:15:09

at least we should be doing that Well,

1:15:11

I would say the same thing with respect to

1:15:13

something that could exploit your own Impulsive

1:15:16

behaviors back against you. There's a lot of protection

1:15:18

even adults might need from that. Hmm But

1:15:21

let's just agree with where we'll all begin Well,

1:15:24

how are we gonna at least protect miners because

1:15:26

miners are not fully formed adults And so we

1:15:28

already have a framework for recognizing that Let's

1:15:31

at least use that take the first step in protecting you

1:15:33

asked about the next generation What risks are they gonna face

1:15:35

that we didn't well, at least let's protect them until they're

1:15:37

18 years old Let's start with that.

1:15:39

That's something Democrat or Republican black or white we should

1:15:41

be able to agree on and I think

1:15:43

those are areas where In some ways

1:15:45

I think it's valuable to talk about some of

1:15:47

the risks that we will face in the future

1:15:49

because right now our Politics is such that if

1:15:52

you're talking about an issue that we're facing here and now People

1:15:55

have already formed their own Strongly

1:15:59

entrenched partisan biases about what they're

1:16:01

supposed to say or not about that issue.

1:16:03

But if you're talking about something relating to

1:16:05

the future, right, the future of blockchain or

1:16:08

AI or, you know, what the heck is

1:16:10

going on with UAPs or

1:16:12

what we do or don't know or space

1:16:14

exploration, we can pick that set of issues.

1:16:16

They're really important to the future. Everybody recognizes

1:16:18

they're very important, but they haven't yet been

1:16:21

polluted by the partisan

1:16:26

bickering. We

1:16:28

actually can use those kinds of issues

1:16:30

as a way of building our muscle

1:16:32

memory, of having a thoughtful,

1:16:35

respectful, policy-driven debate

1:16:37

or conversation, and

1:16:40

then use that muscle memory to come back

1:16:42

and then debate issues like how

1:16:44

we're going to deal with drilling

1:16:46

or fracking policy or the border or

1:16:48

racial quota systems or anything else. Those issues

1:16:51

right now, you can't have those debates without

1:16:53

people immediately falling into their camps. But

1:16:55

if we have a thoughtful discussion about the future of

1:16:57

AI and how we're going to protect children or the

1:16:59

next generation from some of the perils of AI in

1:17:02

the future, the beauty of that is,

1:17:04

A, we might actually have something productive that comes out

1:17:06

of protecting our children. But we've also built a

1:17:09

kind of practice, right, a kind of

1:17:11

muscle memory for how to be able to tackle

1:17:14

a complex challenge in a society where

1:17:17

that issue has not yet been balkanized

1:17:19

or partisanized in the same way. So we

1:17:21

say, okay, if we can address that issue

1:17:24

that challenging where we haven't drawn those partisan boundaries

1:17:26

yet, then you know what,

1:17:28

maybe we might just be able to deal with our border

1:17:31

in the same way too if you take our partisan filters

1:17:33

off and deal with it in the

1:17:35

same way that you dealt with actually a far

1:17:37

more challenging issue to address, which is the future

1:17:39

of AI. You get what I'm saying? Absolutely. And

1:17:41

I think it's possible. Everything is possible. So that's

1:17:43

the practice that we need to develop. I don't

1:17:45

want to install fear. I want to install faith.

1:17:47

My last question, because you're a guy

1:17:49

in the suits, like you'll wrap it up, sniper on the

1:17:51

roof. My

1:17:54

last question is, there's a little

1:17:56

version of me and you, right? New

1:17:58

to this country. My parents are very excited. What

1:18:04

would you say is the most

1:18:07

beneficial first step for

1:18:09

young Americans to roll their

1:18:11

sleeves up and get to work? I

1:18:17

want to give you a good answer. Let me just think about that one. Think all

1:18:19

the time. I'd

1:18:26

say two things. They

1:18:29

go together actually though. When

1:18:36

you – we'll go back to our earlier discussion

1:18:38

about impulses. One

1:18:42

of the learnings I've had in my life is that I

1:18:44

don't always have an impulse to be generous, but

1:18:47

when I do, I've never regretted

1:18:49

following it. So

1:18:52

you will experience all kinds of impulses

1:18:54

anyway, but this goes back to our

1:18:56

theme. Rather than scolding them out of

1:18:58

existence, some of those are actually

1:19:00

very good impulses too. Whenever

1:19:04

I've found the impulse to be

1:19:06

generous, follow

1:19:10

it every time. There hasn't been one time

1:19:12

I could look back and say I've regretted it. I've

1:19:14

gone back and looked at times where I've found that

1:19:16

impulse, but then I've had other things that would say,

1:19:18

oh well, don't do it now or do it later

1:19:20

and then you never get around to doing it. That

1:19:24

I've regretted. There's a lot of other things I would

1:19:26

regret. There's never one instance where there was somebody who

1:19:28

you were able to help and it doesn't always have

1:19:30

to come through charity. It could come through a business.

1:19:32

It could come through creating a product that the only

1:19:35

way you were able to do it was through a

1:19:37

business, but whatever it is, whenever you have a basic

1:19:39

impulse towards generosity, follow it and

1:19:41

act on it. I think good

1:19:43

things are going to happen for you and good things are

1:19:45

going to happen for the people around you and the country

1:19:47

that you're a part of in the world that you live

1:19:50

in if you act according

1:19:52

to that precept. That way,

1:19:55

you're not in this difficult position

1:19:57

where you have to act. doing

1:20:01

something good in the world, that's a hard thing to do.

1:20:03

Because then there's all the situations I've been in where I

1:20:05

didn't feel like being particularly like doing a thing, you know,

1:20:08

let's say, you know, writing a check to some charity to

1:20:10

go to some fancy ball. I hate that kind of stuff

1:20:12

anyway. But okay, wait, I really want to

1:20:14

write $10,000 check to go to this thing and wear a

1:20:16

black tie event and you know, because somebody's pressuring me to

1:20:18

do it. Okay, I've done it before. I don't feel good

1:20:20

about myself for doing that. That felt forced. But

1:20:24

if there was somebody who, you know, as a

1:20:27

woman, I met in the campaign, I haven't talked about this

1:20:29

publicly. No reason to do it. It doesn't matter. I did

1:20:31

it because I felt like doing it because I want to

1:20:33

talk about it. But who

1:20:35

is struggling to get

1:20:38

the one medication that she felt she needed in order

1:20:40

to be successful but is only available in another country,

1:20:42

it wasn't available in the US because of the bureaucracy

1:20:44

or whatever here. And she

1:20:46

couldn't even pay for her travel costs to get there. But was

1:20:48

somebody who we had an in depth conversation with about the future

1:20:50

of our own country. And she tells me at the end, she's

1:20:52

not going to be able to live to see me become president,

1:20:54

but she wanted me to be well, I said, wait a minute,

1:20:56

wait a minute. Why is that? Because, well, I

1:20:59

can't pay for the travel costs to be able to get the care I needed.

1:21:01

Did not think twice about it, but to say that, you

1:21:03

know what, it's not even the money, but the time we

1:21:06

took to be able to help her family be able to

1:21:08

go do that. That's a decision

1:21:10

that I will never regret. There's a lot

1:21:12

of regrets, a million regrets from the year of running the

1:21:14

campaign, small regrets, things that would have done differently, but that's

1:21:16

not one of them. And so that

1:21:18

would be my advice anyway to a young person is don't

1:21:23

force yourself to do

1:21:25

something to prove that you're good to somebody

1:21:27

else. You have enough good instincts

1:21:29

in you. Just when those

1:21:31

awaken themselves, just follow them, follow

1:21:34

them to the fullest. And

1:21:36

that alone will allow you to achieve

1:21:38

everything you ever dreamed of in terms

1:21:40

of having a positive impact on this

1:21:42

world and even a positive life

1:21:44

for yourself. So a lot of things I could say, but

1:21:46

if there was one thing I was going to pick, it'd

1:21:49

be that. That was beautiful. That

1:21:51

was amazing. You took two seconds. He's like, let

1:21:53

me think. Are you an AI man? That's what

1:21:55

some people thought. taking

1:22:00

the time putting this in your home and

1:22:02

having this conversation. I pray that if

1:22:05

you're not the man yet to be running this

1:22:07

country, I pray that God shapes you to be

1:22:10

the best man to run this country. You're doing

1:22:12

what you're doing. How often

1:22:14

do you put this podcast out? Once a week. I

1:22:17

pray that God gives you the words that need

1:22:19

to be spoken to your peers and to your

1:22:21

generation. That's what

1:22:24

I will pray for and I'm grateful for yours

1:22:26

as well. Thank you so much. Thank you.