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#71 Jorge Masvidal Calls Out Conor McGregor & Exposes Colby Covington

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#71 Jorge Masvidal Calls Out Conor McGregor & Exposes Colby Covington

#71 Jorge Masvidal Calls Out Conor McGregor & Exposes Colby Covington

#71 Jorge Masvidal Calls Out Conor McGregor & Exposes Colby Covington

#71 Jorge Masvidal Calls Out Conor McGregor & Exposes Colby Covington

Thursday, 13th June 2024
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0:00

Getting into Nate Diaz, how do you see the

0:02

outcome of that fight? How old are the audience

0:04

watching? They're old enough. I'm gonna kill this motherfucker,

0:06

dad. I swear to you, bro. Max Holloway, Justin

0:08

Gagee, you couldn't hear anything the last 15 seconds,

0:10

because they were killing each other. If you were

0:12

on that card, who would your wish opponent? Gagee,

0:14

bro, like the buses face wide open. The only

0:16

times that it's happened outside of gym scenarios, I

0:18

really felt it was me or you. And bro,

0:20

it's not gonna be me. I wanna know why

0:23

you have not gotten into the ring with Conor.

0:25

Kobe's a bitch, actually. That beef is real real.

0:27

He actually tried to sue me for like a

0:29

year. But guess what? Brain

0:31

injury. Motherfucker, you fucker. I touch your ass,

0:33

dog. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Bitch.

0:36

I'm just playing, I don't fight, I do the

0:38

praying. I only go the way, I must

0:40

stay out waiting. There's not often I sit down with somebody

0:42

and they say something that makes me think. Bro, this was

0:44

great. I love you, dad. I love you. Listen, will you

0:46

give me something to think about? I'm my own damn way.

0:48

I had a lot of fun on this interview. Let's

0:52

go, bro, back in Vegas. Hello, hello,

0:54

Jorge. What's up? Dude.

0:57

Hi, hi. Hey, you were not a part of the

0:59

last episode. No, I'm kind of like third wheeling, no?

1:01

Oh, let's go. Welcome back to

1:03

the George Janko show. It has been a

1:05

minute. And how I want to introduce

1:07

you is how we first met, dude,

1:10

because, bro, that was funny.

1:12

I don't even know if you remember, but. Of course we do. Okay,

1:14

okay, I just want to make sure. I just want to make sure.

1:16

But I got a little bit of CT, but not

1:18

that much. Yeah. I

1:21

was so nervous, bro, because I'm

1:23

a huge fan. I'm running this podcast

1:25

by myself at the time. I'm

1:27

like, this is a big deal. I'm here at this

1:29

hotel. We made such a big deal about it. I

1:31

come out here, I'm having bubble guts. I'm like, no,

1:33

I got this shit. I'm gonna be in control. I'm

1:36

gonna do a good job. And you pull

1:38

up and you were just so sweet and nice. All

1:41

your friends again are just so sweet and nice. And

1:43

it was just so welcoming that I was like, all

1:45

right, cool, I feel relaxed. And

1:47

then I was like, if you want to

1:49

go smoke, and then you

1:51

could come back. I was kind of gesturing it. You could go

1:53

smoke and then you could come back and you're like, you

1:56

roll with us. And I've seen you knock

1:58

people out, so I don't want to say no to you. I was

2:00

like, okay, yeah. And I go out

2:02

and keep it up with you, bro. I'm not

2:04

gonna lie, dawg, if you go watch the first

2:06

like five minutes of the podcast, I had no

2:08

idea where else. I had absolutely, and it's his

2:10

fault. It's his fault, the guy hiding behind Kevin.

2:13

It's a combo, but we do that to everybody that

2:15

takes the walk with us. But you won't watch this

2:17

plank, let's go. If you take the walk, you're gonna

2:20

have to. I took the walk and then took a

2:22

flight back. I didn't even, I don't even know how

2:24

that happened. I don't know how you did a podcast

2:26

like that. Dawg, I started freestyling

2:28

out. I was like, how?

2:31

Eventually come back to earth with a lot of

2:33

different clarity and visions and questions and all that,

2:36

but eventually you're back now. And

2:38

then afterwards, this- Yeah, we had

2:40

you tore up, I remember. Afterwards was even better

2:42

because like we went out and then we went back for

2:45

a second round of smoke. But this time I was like

2:47

a little bit more comfortable because we just got done talking,

2:49

we hung out. And then we did

2:51

this. This is how I knew you were a

2:53

real one, bro. The conversation was awesome. Your people

2:56

are awesome. That's a good identification of who the

2:58

person is, is who they hang out with. Very

3:01

welcoming, very cool. And we go

3:03

outside and this is how I knew you were an

3:05

actual real one. We were playing the trash game. Remember

3:07

we were throwing it, but we got competitive with it.

3:09

For like 10 minutes we were like, all right, if you do

3:11

it from here, you're okay. And I'm the

3:14

worst at that part, ain't you? Loser

3:16

has to do pushups. And so I

3:18

won. And I'm not gonna fucking tell

3:20

the guy that can knock out every single guy here.

3:22

Hey buddy, pay up. Get out, do some pushups.

3:24

Bro, no one asked you. You just got done and

3:27

you just, boom, every time. So you pay your, dude,

3:29

that's a real man right there, bro. Always, come

3:31

on. How you been, bro? Cool, my brother, good. That's

3:33

a good opening, man. Yeah. Let's

3:35

go. Yeah, always pay my

3:37

pushup, that sit up, that's like, I

3:40

don't know, I'm sure it goes on every

3:42

sport, but mainly like in combat, it's

3:44

like, oh, let's bet on this fight, oh, let's

3:46

bet pushups, let's bet squats. And they get crazy.

3:48

Who runs a mile faster? Okay, 100 pushups to

3:51

the loser, boom, 50 squats, boom. This is how

3:53

you're getting shredded for your next fight? This

3:55

is a small part of it, you know. You look great, bro.

3:57

Thank you, brother. You look really good. I've been in Vegas since.

4:00

January now. Where do you stay when

4:02

you just live and not train? I don't

4:05

stay far off the strip, I'm gonna be like

4:07

15-20 minutes from the strip. So you're permanently in...

4:09

Yeah, I've been here since January just doing it

4:11

full-time here and shit

4:14

the fight kept getting pushed back it was

4:16

gonna be April then it was gonna be

4:18

May and it was gonna be June and

4:20

now it's finally July 6th and it's official

4:22

there's a referees whistle so it's not getting moved. Are

4:25

you scared of him running away? And who we're talking

4:27

about is Nate Diaz. Yeah. This is this is your

4:29

guys a second fight. Yeah our second

4:31

fight, correct. The first one in boxing. I know

4:34

but like the first one it was kind

4:36

of a boxing match. And by the

4:38

way can I ask you something? Do you not feel punches bro?

4:41

You know it's a it's a good question.

4:43

I would say you do but

4:46

not how you think because you since you haven't

4:48

felt it enough times or been in there you

4:50

don't know it's not like every single punch stings

4:52

you know but the ones that do hurt you're

4:54

like feel it or your legs will give but

4:56

it doesn't mean like oh I'm hurt it's like

4:58

oh shit okay wake up hands up you know

5:00

how'd I get hit you know it's more like

5:02

that and then if you don't feel it cuz

5:04

it just fucking rocks your soul and it's bad

5:06

like you just they shut off the lights go

5:08

like this no not even it's like when they

5:11

shut the lights off on you just turn them

5:13

back on and you're like this that's

5:15

a bad one. Because most

5:17

of the time your adrenaline is pumping so you're

5:19

just focused on okay wait. And there's conditioning

5:21

too but if if like in front of

5:24

TV you look like a baby calf being

5:26

born that's really bad. You're

5:29

doing all that man they got you you know. What

5:32

are you gonna say? Something that I've always wondered and

5:34

this might be a stupid question but

5:37

you know when you're like you're in it right you're like

5:39

you're pounding him down I'm gonna sound really stupid but you're

5:42

pounding him down you're in the moment you know what I

5:44

mean you're trying to get blood and I don't know if

5:46

your emotions are wrapped in it but I feel like you

5:48

know you're somebody who comes from real street fighting so I'm

5:50

sure you kind of have some of your emotions a little

5:52

bit wrapped up and then the bell rings and you have

5:54

to stop everything. Yeah. How does that

5:56

feel like how do you separate yourself to stop?

5:58

That is a great question. Actually, the more

6:00

simple answer to that is just like

6:03

rinse and repeat. We're training this every

6:05

freaking day, every hour of the day.

6:07

It's constant, it's constant until it becomes

6:09

like second nature. The bell rings. OK,

6:11

I disengage. If I keep going, I

6:14

want to get in trouble and I want to get

6:16

a point taken away from me. I want to get

6:18

disqualified. And more than anything, I've always felt I don't

6:20

got to cheat nobody and beat nobody. So I've never

6:22

had as much as a point taken away from me

6:24

in my 50 something pro fights. So I've never I've

6:27

never had like a foul or like a double foul

6:29

even. You know, so my record is clean

6:31

there. And that's just something that's like a mental

6:33

note. A lot of people do that because they're

6:35

kind of quitters already. They're getting beat up, they're

6:37

getting frustrated. They want a cheap shot when that

6:39

bell rings because we all it's just standard procedure.

6:42

We all are going to stop when that bell

6:44

rings. Maybe sometimes the crowds are so, so loud

6:46

that, you know, we can't hear the bell, but

6:48

the referee is on it and they'll separate, you

6:50

know, he'll do his job and jump in there,

6:52

you know, because sometimes you might not hear the

6:54

bell. Like you're yeah, you got

6:56

hit with your ears ringing. Max

6:59

Holloway and that's another good one. If

7:01

your ears ring and you won't you won't be able to hear

7:03

anything. Max Holloway and Justin

7:05

Gagee, you couldn't hear anything the last like 15

7:07

seconds because it was just brawling. They were killing

7:09

each other. I was there live. It's like you

7:12

couldn't hear anything. So they would they want to

7:14

heard the bell. You know, how did that feel

7:16

being there in that moment? Amazing, man. It that

7:18

whole card was just one of the best cards

7:20

I've ever seen in my life in

7:22

in person. And I've been to every fucking one.

7:24

If you were on that card, who would your

7:27

wish opponent be? Maybe

7:29

Gagee, bro, like the buses face wide open, you know,

7:31

similar to how Max did it. Fair

7:34

enough. You know, just

7:36

because I got so much admiration, I think he's

7:38

one of the best strikers to ever fight in

7:40

MMA. It's Pirera. So I would love to fight

7:42

him, but more out of like I'm a fan

7:44

of this guy. This guy is truly a stand

7:47

up machine. He's just fucking like

7:49

the Terminator with the stand up man. So a guy like

7:52

that to face, if I was like that way class, I

7:54

would love to fucking throw down with an animal like that,

7:56

you know. Do you

7:58

think they give you your flowers on your striking? because

8:01

I feel like they just didn't give you enough credit for your

8:03

striking. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, you know.

8:05

Sometimes they break the fights down and they shoot the

8:07

little things and make like a good striker, a good

8:09

striker, you know. It's not just being fast or strong.

8:12

It's like the angles, the fakes, the timing, you know.

8:14

I really don't care. I didn't do it for

8:16

them. I did it for like me and my coaches and family, my

8:18

kids, you know. If the fans give it to

8:21

me, awesome. If they're not, you know, I mean the records give

8:23

it to me so I can't, you know. I

8:25

love that. I can't be mad at them.

8:27

I love that. Do you, getting into this

8:29

Nate Diaz fight, what do you feel like

8:31

when you're in this training camp? What do

8:33

you feel the differences between when you were

8:35

first training for him versus like right now?

8:38

Oh, completely different on so many levels, you

8:40

know. Could you explain? An MMA was, it's

8:42

a complete different grind, you know. Yes, you're

8:44

punching, but that's like, I

8:46

don't know, 25 to 30 percent of

8:48

the game now. Yeah, you can knock somebody out. You cut

8:50

them wide open. You can drop them. You could, you know,

8:53

push a guy off. You could do a lot of

8:55

things with the boxing, but it's just a percentage of

8:57

the MMA, you know. So in MMA, it's like, you

9:00

know, a Monday morning practice

9:02

would be I'd go run first, anywhere

9:05

from like two to three miles. Then

9:07

go to the wrestling practice. And after the

9:09

wrestling practice, go home chill. Do

9:12

pads at night after that. Then Tuesday morning will

9:14

be like sparring, hard sparring, you know. And

9:16

then after that, I might run or I might

9:18

do conditioning right after like a small circuit. Then

9:20

rest at night. Then at night, either like

9:23

wrestling techniques or like wrestling techniques with some pad

9:25

and it's ever evolving because we've got

9:27

to cover a lot of ground. You got to do

9:29

jiu-jitsu as well. So we'll have maybe Wednesday night was

9:31

just two hours of working the floor and, you know,

9:33

maybe. Buddy's

9:35

really good at guillotine, so I'm just spending one

9:37

hour defending guillotines, you know. And then after that,

9:40

I still got to do my strength and conditioning.

9:42

And boxing is completely different. It's like we

9:44

run every day and

9:47

they spar a lot and a lot of bag work

9:49

and a lot of technique. But there's no wrestling involved.

9:51

Obviously, no jiu-jitsu, no kicking or nothing. So the grind

9:53

is way different, you know. Honestly,

10:01

I'm not patient The

10:03

devil getting frustrated The

10:06

weed is making me lazy A

10:09

generation full of babies Honestly,

10:11

I can't take it I

10:14

love that. How

10:16

do you see the outcome of that fight? Shh.

10:21

How old are the audience watching? They're

10:24

old enough. I'm gonna kill

10:27

this motherfucker, dad, bro. Is there a

10:29

real beef in there that you're like

10:31

a... Me, besides this one

10:33

idiot in real life that I can't stand

10:35

I can't mention his name because FBI will come raid us

10:38

and shit, and they'll have guns in your face and

10:40

be like, oh, why is this guy saying that? Yeah,

10:42

they're fucking... they're going nuts on me. So I can't

10:44

say this one bitch name, you know, but... Could you

10:46

say it to me and I'll bleep it out? No,

10:49

I'll say it anyway. Oh, if you don't know, it's Kobe's bitch ass. I'm gonna

10:51

get into that, bro. I'm gonna get into that. That

10:53

is like... that is the highest I might live to talk

10:55

about. Other than him, I don't got problems with... That

10:59

beef is real real. With nobody, you know, I don't...

11:01

the name shit is not personal. I want to bust

11:03

his face wide open for some stupid comments. He said,

11:05

hey, we're gonna fight, and I'm gonna get paid, and

11:07

the better I do by executing you, the more money

11:09

I get in my next fight. So I definitely want

11:11

to rip his head off, you know? Why

11:13

aren't you doing it in your bare knuckle thing?

11:16

I personally couldn't do bare knuckle, you know, because of

11:18

my hands. I did it a lot when I was

11:20

young. I abused it a lot, and then throughout my

11:22

pro career, I already went in there with, like, injuries

11:24

from, like, the backyard, and I just fought on three. And

11:27

I just fought on through them for, like, 20 years,

11:29

you know? So if I did a bare

11:31

knuckle fight, it's like that one, and I

11:33

better get paid a lot of money. You're

11:35

just gonna... So are

11:38

you positioning yourself to take

11:40

Nate, crumble him up, throw him in

11:42

the trash can, and then are you

11:44

looking at a star fight? Like,

11:46

for example, if the

11:48

stars align, Jake beats Mike Tyson, are

11:51

you trying to fight a Jake Paul type of character,

11:53

or are you trying to go and

11:55

fight... Is there anybody else in your lineup? You

11:58

know, shit. Logan fights

12:00

way more attractive to me than Jake fights always

12:02

been you know Logan Paul.

12:04

Yeah, I think he retired he retired from boxing

12:07

I mean, I don't know if it was a joke

12:09

his fight with Mayweather was was good man He had

12:12

him he heard him two different times in the fight,

12:14

you know, and he thought you know

12:16

I thought Floyd won, but it was he had some

12:18

moments in there Logan, you know And he's an athlete

12:20

and he comes to like fighting bra, you know, I

12:23

kind of like that But are you sidestepping him just to

12:25

like flex on Jake to be like I'm not gonna fight

12:27

you I'm gonna fight your older brother to talk to talk

12:29

about Jake the UFC. I'm still on the contract with him

12:31

So they let me out for three fights, but

12:33

you're still you're still yeah Yeah, I'm still

12:35

with the UFC still under heavy-duty contract Like

12:37

you don't know nobody you get me out

12:40

of this contract type contract, right? And

12:42

they allowed me to go three fights in

12:44

boxing and fight for fan meal But

12:47

one of the conditions was I can't fight Jake's ass because

12:49

I don't like his ass, you know Yeah,

12:51

cuz Jake's pulled a lot of stunts on Dana

12:54

White on Hunter Campbell. He's talked about you see

12:56

pay this Came after the UFC.

12:58

Yeah, you know, so they're like we're gonna let one

13:00

of our top dogs go and let you make money

13:04

How is your relationship Dana my relationship with

13:06

Dana is great and and when hunter it's

13:08

great, you know, um, I Mean

13:10

I've been a dog for that company since

13:13

I joined in from short notice fights to

13:15

short notice fights to fighting anybody Anytime anyplace

13:17

anywhere in the world, so it's

13:20

pretty good, you know, and I made him a ton

13:22

of money in the process Yeah, yeah. I want to

13:24

go back into this Colby thing because this is I

13:26

can't believe I never even asked about it The first

13:28

time we had a conversation. I mean, it ain't really

13:31

much to talk about he's an idiot, you know, bro

13:33

but let's just backtrack dude because there's a lot of

13:37

Speaking of that bitch, he's just ducked to fight right

13:39

now. I've never ducked to fight my fucking career in

13:41

this guy duck. I forget that. Um Ian

13:45

Gary Fuck

13:48

you boys Already

13:50

like set and he pulled out he

13:52

didn't even want to sign the contract and

13:54

he's talking about fake fighters in tonight He's always

13:56

been the fakest motherfucker. I hope I don't get

13:59

rained for this But the

14:01

I poke and the

14:04

other shit that he pulled when you guys are fighting, do you

14:06

think he purposely did that? Oh, the I poke 100 percent. And

14:09

it was a good fucking I poke because I was the

14:11

fight. I thought I was fucking seeing double vision. It's just

14:13

like, you know, Herb Dean and me have

14:15

never fucking got in the long. But and I think he's also

14:17

like one of the worst referees that's ever existed. Like, he has

14:19

too many mistakes at a high level. Great

14:21

person like outside of that. I think he's a great

14:24

person outside of refereeing. But in refereeing, I've

14:26

just it's just been like me that he's always had

14:28

these like weird calls. But that was a seriously good

14:30

I poke. Like, I should have had a little bit

14:32

of time to recoup, not fucking let this guy hug

14:34

his arms after he just I poked and then went

14:36

for a bear hug, you know. But whatever is a

14:38

sport shit happens, you know. OK, let's

14:40

backtrack when you guys first met because

14:42

that unless you don't want to get into it. Yeah, I'm

14:45

OK. Cool. So what's the

14:47

deal, bro? You helped this guy out. And then he

14:49

tries to climb on top of your success. He

14:52

came over to American top team. I was already part

14:54

of the gym. He came over in a recruiting trip.

14:56

They brought a bunch of wrestlers and different guys from

14:58

different gyms. And he was doing like a program that

15:00

you come stay with us, live with

15:02

us. We'll take care of you if you make it. I don't know. We had

15:05

a good amount of people applying. He was

15:07

one of them. He wrestled for

15:09

Oregon and did all right. You know, so he

15:11

came over, he joined the program and we were

15:13

training same time. And back then

15:15

I was playing like a lot of poker. And this

15:17

motherfuckers, I got the January, you know, he's at the

15:20

casino to this day. Every day, he's actually right there

15:22

right now. I wish I wish. No, no, he is. I

15:24

was just with him. I wish. He

15:27

just gets up and oh my God. I

15:29

wish. I

15:32

just look back like that. Then boys are going

15:34

to go. Oh, I

15:36

wish. No, but yeah,

15:38

you know, and we were hanging out.

15:40

We were fucking cool with each

15:42

other. And he was living with his chick at

15:44

the time. And his chick kicked his ass out of the crib

15:46

so he didn't have no one. He had his hand broken. So

15:49

we got along pretty well. And I had this apartment

15:51

that was right by the by

15:54

the gym. So I was like, bro, you come crash on my

15:56

couch a couple of months, you know, get your shit right, get

15:58

your hand right, get a couple scraps and then fucking. Pay

16:00

me back, you know? Because at the time I was a

16:02

pro fighter, I already had like 20 something fights, but there's

16:04

not a lot of money in fighting back then. I'm talking

16:07

about like no sponsors and nobody giving you shit, bro. You

16:09

had to really work for that. So I was like, bro,

16:11

give me a hundred, $200 for all this food that you

16:13

eating, because I used to have like a meal prep company,

16:15

you know, and this and that. And that's how it should

16:17

have really been known. This motherfucking shit, dog. Like I'm here

16:19

helping him out, winning me a kick and nothing back then.

16:21

So anyways, we're cool

16:23

now, I introduced him as well to my coach that

16:25

I've been with since basically a fucking

16:27

kid, you know? And my coach and him

16:29

make a deal, they go, whatever you

16:31

make, if it's $100, $100,000, I want 5%. That's

16:35

all I want. And I shook that deal

16:37

with my coach until this day we have that deal and I've

16:39

never broken that deal with him. And he's the guy that he

16:42

oversees, he's a little older, his name is Paulino. In

16:44

my fight now for the boxing match, he's been like

16:46

in all my MMA fights, you know? Just a handshake

16:48

agreement? Just a handshake agreement. And it went from me

16:50

paying him like $50 a fight to

16:52

hundreds of thousands of dollars per every time I fight,

16:55

you know? And it's still on a handshake deal and

16:57

it's like, boom, we get it done, you know? So

17:00

this motherfucker finally makes money, which he's

17:02

never paid even the 5%, he's like, oh, on the next

17:04

one, oh, on the next one. He finally fights for the

17:06

title, makes him decent money, and guess what he does? Deuces

17:09

my coach training the whole time, leading up

17:11

from amateur to that world

17:13

title. My initial feeling was

17:16

like, I know this dude lives, I know

17:18

he trained. He was on my couch, I

17:20

know where he lives. Yeah, I'm gonna go

17:23

clean his clock. Just straight up, like, you wanna

17:25

do some more shit? Was this before your guys' match?

17:27

Or after? This is before, way

17:29

before the match. And my coach is like, don't

17:31

do it, don't do it. Don't

17:33

do that, that's not what you wanna do. That's not what you wanna

17:36

do. We'll get him back when we fight,

17:38

this and that. Don't do it, don't do it. It's a

17:40

good coach. I'm all right, so I didn't do it, I

17:42

didn't do nothing, you know, and shit,

17:45

whatever. I just wasn't cool with him. I

17:47

see him at the gym, be like, don't talk to me, and he'd be like,

17:49

oh, what's the deal? I'm like, nah, you know what the deal is, bro. You're

17:51

fucking, you're a shade ball, bro. He's like, bro,

17:53

you know, it's a problem with translation and I speak

17:55

English, you only speak Spanish. Like, no, my coach understands

17:57

you, and I've already translated for you guys on the

17:59

phone. It's 5% or whatever you made, you didn't

18:01

wanna pay that shit like a little bitch. Which has

18:03

had problems with all his coaches. He got kicked out

18:06

of America. Top team, this is just not me. This

18:08

is like a long, John Jones hates his ass. 5%

18:10

is nothing compared to what he's doing for him. Tyrone

18:12

Woodley hates his ass. Like everybody he's had a close

18:14

encounter with, they can't stand this motherfucker. And Tyrone Woodley

18:16

was telling me, and John Jones was telling me at

18:18

the time, watch out for this motherfucker. He's not who

18:20

he is, who he acts like. Watch out

18:22

for this motherfucker. I'm like, I'm just letting him crash

18:24

in my couch, no biggie, right? Wrong as

18:26

fuck. And then he does that to

18:28

my coach. We don't kick it no more. And then

18:30

I was at 155, I came up the 170. I

18:33

started getting a lot of press. Everybody starts talking about

18:35

me. Instead of just being like, all right, we'll fight.

18:37

Cause damn, not only did I hook you up, but

18:39

at some point we were cool. We were good friends.

18:42

We don't have to talk about each other's kids, which

18:44

he doesn't have, but I do. We don't have to

18:46

talk about each other's family, mom,

18:48

dad, and all these things to sell a pay-per-view. To sell

18:50

like a dollar, you know? So, and if you would do

18:52

that, I'm the type of motherfucker, I'm like, well then we

18:55

were never cool, you know? If you would do that for

18:57

a dollar bill, and you have a dollar amount, oh, me

18:59

talking shit will generate us 300

19:01

more thousand pay-per-views. Well then fuck you, you're never

19:03

my brother. You're never my friend. Everything about you

19:05

is fucking fake as fuck, you know? So

19:08

yeah, you know, fucking went to war.

19:10

Do you think it hurt you

19:12

more? Because I've only hung out with you twice.

19:15

And from what I got, you put

19:17

the people you love above yourself. I

19:19

could tell by the way you think the people that helped

19:21

you from the beginning, the people that we would never even

19:23

know who they are, but you make sure you give them

19:26

their flowers and your credit. I could tell by your boys

19:28

that you guys are all very, very loyal and respect each

19:30

other. Was it the fact that this dude has no respect

19:32

that angered you the most? Or is the fact that he

19:34

just came after your family? When he

19:36

was- Combo, man. Shit, you don't have a spine.

19:38

You're fucking spineless, you know what I'm saying? So

19:40

you were literally sleeping on my couch because your

19:42

hand was broken, your girl kicked out, you stayed

19:44

on my couch for like eight months. Like that,

19:46

to me, if you did that for me, it

19:48

doesn't matter what type of beef the me and

19:50

you have, we'll settle to me and you, the

19:52

whole world doesn't have to know. It's just between

19:54

me and you, bro. We got

19:56

problems because some shit happens. I always speak

19:58

well of you just because you did that.

20:00

for me in my life, I'm not gonna

20:03

fucking fabricate shit too. Because

20:05

if you ask him, he's like, well,

20:07

I just went at him because whatever. He doesn't

20:09

even have an explanation for it. And

20:11

I let him come first. He started saying shit online,

20:13

then I caught him at the gym and the

20:16

coach had separated us immediately. And I was like,

20:18

well, I'm going to catch Ross. And then

20:21

the owner of American Tops, he had a stern talk,

20:23

Dan Lambert with me. He's like, man, if you catch

20:25

him in here, bro, I got to let you go.

20:27

I was like, damn, I've

20:29

been here fucking 16 years, man. You're going to let

20:32

me go. He's like, because if you do that, it's

20:34

going to set off a bad example. You are one

20:37

of the lead guys. You're one of the pillars of American top

20:39

team. People look up to you. I've

20:41

already gotten a lot with a

20:43

lot of wild shit over there. So I would send

20:45

them messages. I would get on live, be

20:47

like, hey, I'm at the Publix where you like to go eat sushi

20:49

at him over here. And it never

20:51

happened like that. And then eventually, we

20:54

both kind of got kicked out of the gym. And

20:57

I got kicked out because they put

20:59

like this ultimatum, like, man, you can't say

21:02

no more. Nobody can say nothing to each other online

21:05

unless they're going to fight each other and they have a contract. And

21:08

I was like, well, this motherfucker has been talking shit about me for months

21:10

and I haven't even said nothing because I'm trying to catch him at the

21:12

gym. And now they're going to put that, I can't even say nothing. So

21:15

when I went online and popped off and they're like, you got

21:17

to go master it also. They kicked me out for a month

21:19

and then they brought my ass back. Kobe,

21:22

they never brought his ass back. They should get the fuck

21:24

out of here, piece of shit. They just wanted to show

21:26

me like, don't fuck around, man. But

21:28

I'm full American top team always, bro. Hypothetically

21:31

and slash allegedly,

21:35

you saw this guy after the fight. How did this whole

21:37

thing happen? Allegedly. Did you get a

21:39

call? Well, what's not allegedly is that this

21:41

motherfucker went on a podcast. I don't know

21:43

how we are right now and

21:45

dropped the video on the same day, like

21:48

three hours before hypothetically

21:51

in allegedly somebody looked

21:53

like me, same ethnicity as me,

21:55

enhanced speed as me was

21:57

there. That's allegedly. I

22:00

would beat the case and we could say whatever the fuck we want.

22:03

I already beat that shit. I beat

22:05

it with a stick. But

22:07

yeah, it's fucking, you know, he made a podcast saying,

22:09

if I see him in the streets of Miami, you're

22:11

dead. I'll kill you. He said that?

22:13

Yeah, it's all on recorded video on the podcast. But

22:15

this is after he was avoiding you and you were telling him,

22:17

come meet up with me and he wasn't? No,

22:19

no, never, never, never. I would go, hey, that place you

22:22

like to eat sushi at, I'd go on my live on

22:24

Instagram, pull it up. I'd send the

22:26

messages where I was at. He never wanted to do

22:28

it because I always wanted to do it man to

22:30

man. Just like, let's meet right here in the back

22:32

of this fucking laundry mat and that's it.

22:34

Nobody needs to be there and let's just fucking go. If one

22:36

of us is out bad enough, then the other one just pulls

22:38

back. I put your ass to sleep after

22:40

I put you to see Bob back up and vice versa.

22:43

Is he from that background or not? No, hell no. He's

22:45

a fucking college wrestler who just wants to hold your leg

22:47

as hard as he can and not breathe

22:50

and just be like fucking hugging you and hugging you.

22:53

But when it comes to throwing, and he could have

22:55

done whatever he wanted because I'm throwing these knees, elbows,

22:57

hug all you want. It's a fair fight.

23:00

But that never happened. So whatever. This

23:02

is after the fight. That's crazy that he

23:05

mounts off like that, bro. No, he gets on this

23:07

podcast. He says he's going to kill me. If he

23:09

sees me in Miami, the date that I supposedly did

23:11

this, allegedly, is the same date he went on the

23:13

podcast and said he's going to kill me. It

23:15

just so happens I

23:18

wanted to get a slice of pizza where this dude

23:20

was at. And

23:22

I was like, holy smokes, I'm dead meat, bro.

23:24

This guy's right there. He's going to kill me

23:26

literally. So

23:29

you're trying to protect yourself. I'm trying to protect myself. You just

23:31

want to get a slice of pizza. Allegedly.

23:34

Right. Now, this motherfucker was first

23:36

saying that I jumped in with people wrong because the

23:38

video and the case getting dropped. If I would have

23:40

jumped him, I would have done time in jail. If

23:42

like me and you just would have touched him, that's

23:44

time in jail. Or I would have had to pay

23:46

crazy money to this motherfucker. None of

23:48

that happened. The way they saw it is, two

23:51

pro fighters fighting each other. This guy right here just

23:53

said you're going to kill this guy if you see

23:55

him in the streets of Miami in a fucking podcast.

23:57

We have a fucking conviction. from

24:00

you, you fucking self-sabotaging your ass. How you gonna

24:02

say this?" And then whatever happens, happens. And

24:04

he said it dead ass as serious as he could be,

24:07

not in like, you know, character

24:10

or whatever he wants to say. I

24:12

was like, well, here I am, brother, you know? Damn,

24:15

that's so easy. And some say he ain't never been

24:17

the same since. He actually tried to sue me for

24:19

like a year, for

24:21

guess what, a brain injury. Motherfucker, you're

24:23

retarded for I touch your ass, star.

24:25

Shut the fuck, shut the fuck up,

24:27

bitch. Well, I'm sorry that somebody that you led

24:29

into your life. I'm sorry about all my foul languages. I

24:31

get excited when I'm talking about. By the way, I just

24:33

want to let you guys know that. The first thing he

24:36

said to me, he goes, I'm really proud of you for

24:38

speaking about the word. My man's a fellow Christian right here.

24:40

Die hard, bro. I know I should watch

24:42

my language, but I get excited with this dude. This

24:45

idiot would just clock him, but I definitely have faith

24:47

in Christ. And you know, the way, the things that

24:49

I say a lot of times might not lead people

24:51

to believe that, but all my faith is in God.

24:53

It's the actions that I'm worried about my friend. They're

24:55

all right, they're getting better. For

24:58

working man towards Christ, every day a

25:00

little better as I go towards the

25:02

kingdom. Amen. What do you say? No,

25:05

I'm just saying that I'm sorry that somebody you led

25:07

into your life, your personal life around your kids, around

25:09

your family, you know, like betrayed you because he doesn't

25:11

have any integrity in it. Yeah, and that's what

25:13

hurt. This dude seen my dad,

25:15

my mom, my kids, you know, and stuff. It

25:17

wasn't like my family was living there, but I

25:19

had this apartment next to the gym in Coconut

25:21

Creek and my house was an hour away in

25:24

Miami. But every once in a while, sometimes my

25:26

family will come, they cross paths and stuff and

25:28

meet them. And it's like, if

25:31

you had never met them, it's like you can't

25:33

really hurt my feelings, you know? Like people online

25:35

talking about my family members or something, you know,

25:37

I mean, you go through it all the time.

25:39

You know, it's like, if you take everybody seriously,

25:41

you'll end up in a fucking loony bin, you

25:43

know? So. You know, it hurts when, I

25:45

just had to go through this, when people

25:48

misinterpret your character. Okay, yeah, yeah. That

25:50

shit hurts because you work so hard

25:52

to have like a certain type of

25:55

character, you can't

25:57

take it anymore. You have to just believe in who

25:59

you are. your actions and you just

26:01

have to keep going. Amen, because everybody

26:03

no matter what is going to have a different, slight

26:05

different opinion and this and that. Some

26:08

might love you, some might hate you, you know? And

26:11

if the Bible's right, they're only going to hate us

26:13

the more and more. As you see, it's getting crazy,

26:15

man. It's like being a Christian now is like a

26:17

felon, bro. It's like worse. I'm the new bad boy

26:19

around here, bro. Yeah, man. It's like if you're a

26:21

Christian now, it's a problem, man. I mean, we see

26:23

it all across the schools everywhere. Even

26:25

in society now, it's like, oh, Jesus

26:27

freaked. Just because you say like a prayer before you eat

26:29

or something. I'll show you Jesus.

26:32

You see the bill they're trying to pass in Canada? No.

26:35

Trying to pass a bill in Canada where you can't,

26:37

you know, outwardly worship or anything

26:39

like that. And not just Christians, but

26:41

they're saying for everybody. And

26:44

I just can't believe we're even at a point

26:46

right now where we're in a place you can't

26:48

practice your religion freely and that's becoming an issue.

26:50

And it's just disgusting. I'm

26:52

only going to say this because I

26:55

saw this happen in other countries

26:57

and I lived it through my parents and

27:00

this is what communism looks like in Canada.

27:02

It's been headed in that fast track for

27:04

a long time. They're going to end up

27:06

communist. They know the communists

27:08

know that one of the first things you got to

27:10

do besides taking their guns away, the next thing you

27:12

got to do is take their God away, take their

27:14

religion away. So you believe in the

27:16

government because the government is going to give you the cheese and

27:18

the bread and now you need to go to church because anyways,

27:20

we banned that. It's for like, as

27:22

I'm saying, you're going to pretty soon in this country, if you're

27:24

a Christian, you're a fucking father, bro. They're

27:28

ready to Catholics, they send the

27:30

FBI to intimidate them. Like all

27:32

there's massive reports from here to

27:34

the freaking roof of parents going

27:36

to PTA meetings,

27:38

right? And I'm a parent so I know a

27:40

little bit about this. You know, like, well, why

27:42

are you teaching my five year old about

27:45

sex? And if there's

27:47

how many genders and this and that, whatever your opinion

27:49

is, he should hear when he's like 14 and 15.

27:52

And now when he's five, six years old, if you went and did

27:54

that, you're one of those break parents to put your hand up. They

27:56

went like this. Send you

27:58

off. FBI winning

28:01

your house next day. No way.

28:03

Yeah. This is firmly documented This

28:06

is all over the place and like 50,000 cases This

28:09

is the FBI going to Catholic and Christian parents

28:11

and like hey Why are you showing up to

28:13

these PTA meetings causing trouble in the FBI? What

28:15

type of intimidation tactic is that? They're not even supposed

28:17

to be used for civilians now These people didn't get

28:19

charges or anything but that they showed up to

28:21

the house and tried to fix them out I

28:24

let you know everything he says in the Bible is 100% true. Amen You

28:28

know, I have great faith though, and

28:30

I'll tell you what I have faith in Growing

28:33

up like 10 years ago. Nobody talked

28:35

about the Bible They knew

28:37

about it and they could talk about it They

28:39

never talked about it But these young kids that

28:42

are running up to me and like reciting the

28:44

Bible are talking about me talking to Cliff Or

28:46

just us talking about Jesus right now like it's

28:48

motivating kids to step out and be brave about

28:50

their faith have to be There's

28:52

definitely a revival. I think I think there is

28:54

but let's get back into the fight, bro No, that

28:56

wasn't Heineken water Mountain

28:59

spring Just

29:03

super emotional Desert

29:07

heat is fine I'll

29:09

be at the gym now, but you're from Miami

29:11

human. It is human crazy Dars

29:15

are heat man. I'm from Arizona. So

29:17

I'm used to it. Okay. Yeah desert,

29:19

but it's dangerous Yeah, let's sneak up

29:21

on you get really dehydrated quick mountain

29:23

people From the beaches the humidity

29:25

some sweating a lot, but I like a hand

29:28

of this It's like it cooks you from

29:30

the inside out. Yeah, I'm getting used

29:32

to though. Good It was

29:34

just crazy cold not cuz I've been here since January.

29:36

It's bone-dry cool here Like you could feel it in

29:38

your bones and it gets cold Like

29:42

I've been doing ice baths, bro Bro,

29:44

are you do you do ice baths? Bro?

29:46

It? Yeah, look they all

29:48

lit up you guys do ice baths I

29:53

Know bro does here and there

29:55

bro, bro, bro. It changed my

29:57

life doc. It wakes you

29:59

up dude I've never done cocaine, but they

30:01

said it feels like it. He's been obsessed, he's

30:03

doing him twice a day. That's amazing. And how long

30:05

are you going for? So

30:07

I go numb after like two minutes. I

30:10

can sit in there for however long after. You don't want

30:12

to go too, too long either. I think the most I've

30:14

ever got is like six minutes. Oh, that's perfect. Yeah, like

30:16

two six-minute goes is perfect. How cool do you go? Before

30:20

I was going 39 to 41, and

30:24

this doctor that I've been working with, Dr.

30:26

Gary V Brekker. Gary V's

30:29

your doctor? Yeah, guy's amazing. Are you

30:31

serious? I'm totally serious. Gary V's your

30:33

doctor? You probably just have the

30:35

same name. Brekker. Got

30:37

you. I thought you were talking about the guy who

30:39

goes and trades cards and stuff. No, no, no, no.

30:42

He's like, listen, this is what you're gonna do. We're

30:45

going to garage sales right now. Man, this

30:47

guy's like a mate. Look him up, man.

30:49

He's got a crazy podcast. He

30:52

explains a lot. So I started following him through the podcast. I knew all the

30:54

athletes he worked with. I was like, I really want to work with this guy.

30:56

And I finally got a chance to meet with him and work with him. And

30:59

how he was breaking it down was like, especially

31:01

for athletes, you don't need to sit too long when you get

31:03

in there because then maybe you can start messing

31:05

up a little bit of your joints and stuff. You just need to

31:07

have good exposure to it. And it doesn't have to be that cold.

31:10

You know, he told me 49 degrees, 30

31:12

to six minute goes twice a day. Bro,

31:17

I went to 52 and that was

31:19

cold. It dropped down to 42.

31:22

I got in, dog. I felt like somebody was beating

31:24

me up. It hurts so bad. You want me to

31:26

show you a little life hack? Yeah. You

31:28

get them little fucking socks and neoprene socks because the toes

31:30

is what kills me. My feet hurt so much in that

31:33

bitch. Bro, I look like I had a wicked mortise in

31:35

there. I'm just throwing a bang sign. Same

31:37

shit happens to me. That's

31:40

why I got those neoprene

31:42

socks or whatever. Okay, cool.

31:44

I'm learning about this. Do you wear gloves? No,

31:47

I don't wear gloves. Oh, okay. But I don't always put

31:49

my hands in. That's a problem too. I use you to

31:51

get neck level. And a lot of times I have my

31:53

hands on and then I like in and out, in and

31:55

out, in and out. My wrists are messed up. So I

31:58

like to put them in there. Yeah, yeah, that's it. anything

32:00

that's messed up, you put it in there. It does

32:02

so much. Besides the releases, like, another good thing is

32:04

when you get out, warm yourself up, like, don't go

32:06

in the sauna and take a hot bath. Just like,

32:08

warm yourself up by doing, like, jumping jacks or anything.

32:10

They've done a lot of studies like that for men.

32:13

It raises your testosterone when you have to, like, heat

32:15

yourself back up. So you release more testosterone by just,

32:17

like, doing push-ups, jumping jacks, whatever it is, you know.

32:19

You just warm up by exercise a little bit. It

32:21

doesn't have to be nothing crazy, you even get your

32:23

heart rate up. Just warm up, just do it till

32:25

you warm up, release testosterone.

32:28

Why did that interest you so much? Because

32:30

I think it's super interesting. Science just

32:32

fucking buried me online right now. She

32:34

goes, hmm, babe. No, I mean,

32:36

does that, you have, yes, it's an all-in-a-half. Babe, I

32:39

don't think I can have any more testosterone. It has

32:41

a surplus amount of testosterone. Doctors, I didn't tell them

32:43

that. But wait, so before we started. Dr. Gary Vee,

32:45

actually, he's the one that told me that. But

32:49

before we started, you said you have another 12

32:51

pounds to lose? Yeah. And

32:53

how exactly do you do that in such a

32:56

short time? Does the cold plunges work? What's your,

32:58

like, technique to lose weight? Definitely

33:00

the cold plunges will help, especially if, like, you're,

33:03

like, let's say you're plateaued out, whatever it is you're

33:05

doing, you've never done that cold bath. It's like how you're

33:07

doing them now. The cold plunges

33:09

help a million percent. I know, long

33:11

story short, it helps transfer the white fat

33:13

into brown fat. And white fat is something

33:15

that's stored for, you know, you've been

33:17

in the desert for like three weeks and now your body's

33:19

eating away at this fat, you know. So you'll move

33:22

it to brown fat, which is a lot easier to

33:24

burn, which you could burn doing cardio workouts and stuff

33:26

like that. I think just the amount of

33:28

calories that you also lose in a

33:30

cold bath because your body has to maintain a certain temperature no

33:32

matter what. So your heart's pumping, you're

33:34

burning calories, you know. The endorphins it releases,

33:37

like all that stuff is really good for

33:39

losing weight. Also the sauna. For recovery, and

33:43

there's a lot of studies in women too, but obviously

33:45

I don't know that much. I know for men, when

33:48

we hit, like, a certain core temperature, we start to

33:50

release testosterone and HGH. And just, like,

33:52

exposing yourself to it, like, three times a week. So

33:54

not just the actual water sweating that you do because

33:56

when you drink a glass of water, you put it

33:59

back on. But you're putting in

34:01

a lot of things in your body that are gonna

34:03

help you burn fat fast You know and produce more

34:05

HGH and then just the workouts are there. I mean

34:07

I Consistently workout two to

34:09

three times a day So I all I got to

34:11

do is like watch my mouth a little bit And

34:13

just I mean a little bit and I lose crazy

34:15

amount of weight, you know, really? Yeah, does bread get

34:17

you? Um, I I can't really

34:20

mess with bread lately cuz I'm not allergic to

34:22

gluten But it's like I have a sensitivity to

34:24

it now everybody does. Yeah, it's the poison that

34:26

they're giving and it's just too much You know

34:28

if it was like gluten once in a while,

34:31

no problem But since it's like so much we've been

34:33

like in everything you do is gluten So I have

34:35

like a gluten-free diet so I get gluten-free bread cuz

34:37

I need my break Do you ever go to other

34:39

countries? I need the rice all the time In

34:42

other countries I could eat their fast food

34:44

and I burn off weight. Yeah, it's something

34:46

in the whatever They're putting

34:48

in our even the fruits of strawberries. I It's

34:51

the way it's grown It's it's cuz our

34:53

everything our our ground and our soil has

34:55

been completely so messed with that we would

34:57

need to Completely reflip and redo our soil

35:00

and it's like the way that our wheat

35:02

is like in Europe They have short wheat

35:04

and here we have long wheat I think

35:06

and it might be the opposite but one

35:08

of them and so here it's been so messed with so

35:10

that we have such A surplus that it's like there's

35:12

nothing you can do with a wheat here and they cut

35:14

so many corners You got a fucking chicken is

35:17

born and full-grown in like three weeks and now

35:19

you're eating it next week. There's a million things

35:21

man Robert Kennedy was on our

35:23

show and he was talking about how he wants to fix

35:26

the ground I know you're you're

35:28

you're very confident when it comes to your political

35:30

stance Because you came from a country where

35:33

they didn't give you the freedom to speak about it and

35:35

so you what's your favorite color? When they

35:37

tell you what God we are God. There is

35:39

no other God Freaking government is

35:41

God and they're telling what they're doing If

35:43

you decide to protest one day with

35:46

your wife here, they're oh, yeah, we'll make trouble

35:48

lock their ass up ten years in jail I'll

35:50

see you ten years later. We trial.

35:53

Yeah fucking right, you know, it's

35:55

nuts There's another world man. And is that why you're

35:58

so confident to go speak? I'm

42:00

fighting for my baby girl with all my heart.

42:03

You know, there's a lot of cool countries. I've been all over the

42:05

world twice, but America's fucking

42:07

the greatest country in the world. It's just

42:09

being controlled by some fucking bad people right

42:11

now, bro. I pray that this country

42:13

is going to get back on its feet. And if not,

42:15

you know, it's not

42:17

just for our country, but we are the beacon of

42:20

light. Look at Russia and Ukraine. Trump

42:23

left Russia, Ukraine, China, Taiwan,

42:25

China, Hong Kong. It's

42:27

getting crazy. And there's more and more conflict or

42:29

arising that is about to get revealed right now.

42:32

Oh, this person's fighting with that. And now China

42:34

wants to move in on this fucking part of

42:36

the sea in this other country. It's just getting

42:38

crazy and crazy. When we got the right people

42:40

running the show, everybody plays the part. There

42:42

was no heat in the Middle East. Look at Palestine

42:45

right now in Israel. It's nuts, man. Trump

42:47

had four years apiece, brought the Abraham Accords.

42:49

And this is not some magic wand or

42:52

nothing. This is a guy

42:54

that's actually committed to doing a good job and

42:56

using America to bring light to everybody else. There

42:58

was no wars when Trump was president. I know

43:00

he says the meanest tweets that ever

43:02

fucking lived. So what? If

43:05

your coach is an asshole, but you're winning fucking games, who

43:08

gives a fuck if he tells you, wake the fuck up

43:10

and go run right now, you fat motherfucker. That's what you

43:12

need to do. That's what the fuck you need to do,

43:14

you know? So people

43:17

got very sensitive. We're so

43:19

sensitive. We got sensitive. But

43:21

you know what? In history, it does repeat

43:23

itself. Listen, they're all communist tactics. My

43:27

family would tell me, like in Cuba, one

43:30

war at the start is not just racism

43:32

and not just white people to dislike black

43:34

people and black people to dislike white people,

43:36

but get black people themselves to fight with

43:38

black people, get white people themselves to fight

43:41

and separate, divide and conquer. And

43:43

then it's, you know, they're in there now they're going to

43:45

take away God. If you see

43:47

what the federal department is doing, they've

43:49

been taking God away out of school little by little

43:51

and every year more and more and more. I've noticed

43:54

that. It's just like, man, why? Why

43:56

do you guys care so much? When you remove God, you just

43:58

sit in a room of darkness. You know,

44:00

it's so funny the way you speak is

44:03

like how my like cousins speak. They're very

44:05

passionate and I love your Your

44:07

faithfulness to what you stand on and what

44:09

you believe and I think you

44:12

go about in a pretty cool way I think I

44:14

think the way you speak is pretty cool And I

44:16

hope nobody removes their tongue away from you, bro And

44:19

just like I know we look at the

44:21

opposite end right? For example when

44:23

we look at people that do that type of

44:25

teaching I don't even want to remove

44:27

their mouth away from them I don't I would never

44:29

want to remove anybody's mouth away from anybody

44:32

I think separating somebody from whatever they believe

44:34

in is giving them permission to do that

44:36

to me Do you get what

44:38

I'm saying? And I and that's why I think

44:41

if you believe in whatever you believe in I think that

44:43

should be fine and dandy Yeah, but they should treat us

44:46

everybody like Christians Christians get the

44:49

slack of it, bro Why because we're the ones

44:51

that will forgive you Everybody else

44:53

will fight up. That's what our Our

44:57

Savior teaches us, you know, that's what we we

44:59

get, you know taught and it's the way to

45:01

live it, you know, because Who

45:04

going I for I is gonna be a lot

45:06

of blind people, you know, so I

45:08

I Get it man. But

45:10

at the same time it's like in certain

45:12

categories like it's enough is enough I'm

45:17

a Christian and when the day comes and they're like You're

45:21

Christian you're dead or

45:23

you could denounce Christ That

45:26

is could be kill my hands right now Me

45:30

and you both be in heaven feel like you know

45:32

George's and I was just going over it again I

45:34

had read it some time ago But I was like

45:36

it came up on the YouTube and I was watching

45:39

the video like all the apostles had like the most

45:41

gruesome deaths Ever and they

45:43

are recorded in history. This is not like

45:45

me and you make like they're recording

45:47

What these deaths are like so

45:49

horrible. What would get me to

45:51

do that nothing? There's

45:54

like nothing you But I'm gonna give you five hundred

45:56

million dollars, but we're gonna crucify you upside down and

45:58

and bleed you out. Okay. Keep your money man

50:00

and in a moment's notice somebody could rip

50:02

my character and people will believe it they'll

50:05

believe that so I sat there and I asked

50:07

God I go how do I how does a

50:09

man move through this type of like environment

50:11

like where everybody's like it's a witch hunt

50:14

like and there's no evidence they could just

50:16

point the finger show fake stuff

50:18

and then now people will believe it and

50:21

I was reading the Bible bro

50:24

and it was when Paul was

50:27

was captured and the

50:29

way that the people were just blown away by

50:31

this man being so willingly to go with them

50:35

and he went there and he would sing in the

50:37

in the chains broke off of them and

50:39

this kid came up to me that same day I was reading

50:41

the Bible and he said what I love

50:44

about you the most is you do not care

50:46

what the consequences of you speaking about Jesus but

50:48

you do and I did it

50:50

because I love Jesus so much I don't care about the

50:52

consequence but when he saw that

50:54

in his eyes he saw a man who

50:57

doesn't fear the consequence and so

50:59

what I've learned I understand the the term

51:01

of forgiving your enemies and showing them nothing

51:03

but love is because say you came in

51:05

just hurt me right and I'm

51:07

like don't worry about I forgive you and

51:09

I move on and you see by my actions

51:11

I truly don't care and I moved on

51:13

you'll be so curious on how could he forgive

51:16

me this quick and how could he just not

51:18

why does it not bother him how is he

51:20

so full of love and peace and joy

51:22

and that's because I rest with Christ so there's

51:24

nothing a man could do to me if God

51:27

is for me then who could be against me

51:29

you cannot rip Jesus away from me so

51:31

when I have this in my heart now what

51:33

I'm trying to do is perfectly

51:36

demonstrate how a man should act

51:38

under pressure but I fail

51:40

because I'm a human so

51:43

it's just I always

51:45

think tell God I'm

51:48

sorry and sometimes even before

51:50

I'm sorry about the knock you do down you

51:53

ask for forgiveness before you but

51:56

some people come looking

51:59

for and I'm just apologizing before it's been. It's

52:03

also, you know, to do my sport and the

52:05

upbringing, but it's like one of the things I

52:07

got the most trouble with, you know, and also

52:09

I always go into like flight or fighting more.

52:11

Like if, let's say we went out, the

52:13

video was saying, we're getting like, you know, I

52:16

don't know, frozen yogurt and like some shady characters

52:18

come in and they're like violating space. And then

52:20

they start getting like rowdy. I'm

52:22

not asking questions. I'm going to

52:24

take care of myself, you know, and find

52:27

out, you know, you gotta protect yourself. Cause you

52:29

know, you know what's going to happen. And I've

52:31

always thought like that. So it's like, you know,

52:33

but then after I feel

52:35

really bad. You know, like all

52:37

the bodies are lying there in the ground. And I'm

52:39

like, damn, I knocked you the fuck out. But

52:42

I shouldn't have done that. Does it affect you

52:44

afterwards? Cause you feel like, like you forget

52:46

in the moment and just like how impactful you are in

52:48

the fight. I don't forget. I know very,

52:51

very well. Let me forget. He's like showing his boys.

52:53

He's like, yo, look at, look at. Don't forget, I

52:55

mean like afterwards, like the aftermath when

52:57

the guy, you know, is like very hurt. And you're

52:59

like, fuck, like maybe I should have held back of

53:01

it or like. You know, cause

53:03

the only times that it's happened like, you know,

53:05

in, in like

53:07

outside of gym scenarios, it's,

53:09

I really felt, and I'm not joking, that my

53:11

life, it was me or you and it's not

53:14

going to be me today. Yeah. God

53:16

didn't call me on today, you know? And at

53:18

the moment I won't feel bad because I'm just going

53:21

to, you know, but then when I get home, I

53:23

will pray. You know, like the last time I had like a real

53:25

incident was in a, and this story's kind of famous cause a couple

53:29

of the fighters that do like podcasts set it, you know, some

53:31

of them were like, were there and stuff. I went to China

53:33

and man, I forget what

53:35

city I was, but the UFC brought me out there and

53:38

I was dressed nice. I had like a nice little chain and

53:40

boom. And man, it was like a very

53:42

nice party. Like I really wanted to be at this party. So

53:44

I'm like, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to

53:46

freshen up and get some breath mints, bam, you know, chimney. I'm

53:49

in line waiting, you know, and

53:53

some guy like lifts my chain up and he

53:55

starts talking to his friend from

53:57

the back and he's like, I don't, I don't know.

53:59

I didn't even know what language he's saying, right? Because

54:01

I'm in China, I don't know if he's, they look

54:03

European, but I'm fucking, I don't know what he's saying.

54:06

So I go very politely, I go like this, I

54:08

go, oh, okay, maybe you could have been saying you

54:11

have the nicest chain in the world. I

54:13

don't know what he was saying, you know? I just went

54:15

like this, and I went, oh, okay, thank you. And moved

54:18

up like two feet closer, I got closer to the guy

54:20

in front of me, which I didn't want to be, I'd

54:22

like to give everybody space in the bathroom, but he let

54:24

me get away from these suckers. You

54:26

know, so I'm just looking in the mirror

54:28

right there behind me, just keep an eye over my

54:30

shoulder. And one of them goes like

54:32

that to my chain, like flicks me, like that, like he just lifts

54:35

it up like that. Man,

54:37

I really wanted to be at this party, because

54:39

this was like, really, this was like a really

54:41

nice party, right? And I'm like, man.

54:43

And you're in China, dude. And I'm in China, man, I

54:45

really gotta wash my hands. That's your concern? Wait, time out,

54:47

that's your concern? Dude, that's so

54:50

funny, bro. If you're in a different country, and you're

54:52

about to light somebody up, my concern is what does

54:54

their prisons look like? Yours is like, I'm trying to

54:56

get into this party right now. Those are in the

54:58

party. I'm already in the party. I'm

55:01

already in this party. I go, this is where

55:03

I wanna be. I don't always party, but man,

55:05

I'm glad I'm here tonight, right? And I'm like,

55:07

damn, dog. I still gotta

55:09

brush my teeth. And I turn around, pow, pow. It

55:11

was like three of them. I laid them all clean.

55:14

I washed my hands and I left, right? And I

55:16

went to my booth where I'm at. And

55:19

I'm like, with my translator at the

55:21

time, my friend, seven foot

55:23

four, black dude, looks

55:25

like freaking, like a kung fu dude, he's

55:28

got a huge fro, like this guy's so noticeable, especially like

55:30

in China, right? And he's the dude rolling with me. And

55:33

he comes up to me and he's like, yo, my boy,

55:35

did you, did anything happen about

55:37

this? I go, no, what are you talking

55:39

about? Yo, my boy, listen, if the

55:42

police has come here and they

55:44

find you guilty, or not even guilty, if they come

55:46

here, they arrest everybody who was involved, you don't see

55:48

a judge for 30 days. Call

55:55

me a cab right now. And

55:57

I took off. had

56:00

to like, besides

56:02

the allegedly incident and stuff, that was like the last

56:04

time I had to defend myself. But I don't know

56:06

what's gonna happen. I don't know if this guy's gonna

56:09

stab me. I don't know if this guy's gonna yank

56:11

the chain off me. I don't know if when I

56:13

cut this corner, he's gonna punch me. You've already violated

56:15

me twice. Give you one cheek, give you second cheek.

56:18

Now which one? Dude,

56:20

that guy requests. I'm

56:22

just gonna, as a brother in Christ,

56:25

I'm gonna say there was definitely another

56:27

approach to light these guys up. My

56:30

friend says this, he goes, I correct them so the

56:32

next guy doesn't have to deal with it. And

56:34

I feel like you have that energy. You just kind of

56:37

like. It's just that, you know, and

56:39

I don't always drink, but I

56:42

might've had a shot or two that night.

56:45

So I'm already like, man, I don't wanna

56:47

deal with this right now. These guys

56:49

get the first jump on me. I'm fucked, because I'm

56:51

not in my full senses. And it's three

56:53

of them, you know? So that's how I'm thinking.

56:55

I'm like, if you already did that twice, you're-

56:59

Yeah, you're gonna go, you either have a gun on you, you

57:01

have a knife on you, or you

57:03

just like really looking for trouble, you

57:06

know? So I'm

57:08

not gonna be nobody's pinata, bro. Well,

57:10

I'm sure they haven't flicked any chains since then. You

57:12

know what I mean? I hope. Okay,

57:15

but so I know it's wrong. You don't wanna start a

57:17

fight. You do not wanna fight people. You know what I

57:19

mean? For no reason. Like you don't wanna get into altercations.

57:21

But aside from all that, because you have all the skills,

57:23

do you kind of feel like you're in a little movie,

57:26

like when you're in the bathroom, you're pounding down three

57:29

guys. You could tell by the way your fight come

57:31

up. I have to, yeah. It just combs his hair.

57:33

Yeah, you're walking out. I swear to you, I got

57:35

the breath mints. Cause I was like, man, I

57:38

didn't just come in and do, I need these breath mints.

57:40

So I walked up, the guy was like this hand in my,

57:42

I was like this, and he didn't even say a word.

57:44

I just grabbed him real quick and I took right off. You

57:47

were Jason Statham. But I had to get

57:49

my breath mints. You beat the shit out of three guys and

57:51

then took a breath mint. But these guys,

57:54

one of them looked like he was on a major

57:56

Juiceroy's, but- You're just making yourself

57:58

look cooler. These guys weren't like- You know

58:00

what I'm saying? It's not like three guys from the

58:02

gym, you know? It's like,

58:04

they bench press every Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

58:07

I ain't worried about them, you know? What

58:10

are the odds? I see there's always

58:12

viral viral videos of like Bradley Martin just being

58:14

like, could you take me? And he's like a

58:16

big dude, so I understand the- Bradley Martin's the

58:18

bodybuilder. Yeah, I understand his question. A lot of

58:20

people make fun of it, but I get it,

58:22

because size and height matters. Like

58:25

you asked me that, only one answer, my

58:27

brother. I hope he don't ask

58:29

me that, because I only got like, to me, there's

58:31

only one answer. Let's find out. Let's

58:33

find out right now, because I love to do it. And

58:35

if you sign that slip, we can find out

58:38

right now. Well, I got a question for you. It

58:40

has nothing to do with that. But

58:42

say hypothetically. Especially if someone's like bigger than

58:44

me, it already like- It pisses you off.

58:47

Not even piss out. Let's just find out. And

58:50

if you notice, I'm not that big. No,

58:52

yeah, yeah, yeah. My next question is, me,

58:54

Reid, and Bell, we're on this side of

58:56

the room, the door's on that side of the

58:58

room. Do you think you

59:00

could kill all of us before we run out? Or do

59:02

you think that you could actually, like could we like somehow-

59:06

Bro, bro, bro, bro. Look

59:08

at- Dog, you're missing my girl, bro. I'm really

59:10

flexing for you. I was flexing-

59:12

Let me just say something. These

59:15

two are dead. I can't hit women, so you don't get to

59:17

live. Let's go. One

59:20

of us makes it out. What if

59:22

I identify in that

59:25

moment? I'm just kidding.

59:29

These bad boys weren't built for women, so she gets to live,

59:31

you know. But you two dudes, I don't-

59:34

I didn't get it, man. Probably not, brother. I mean,

59:36

unless you got like a fucking machine gun under there,

59:38

brother, you can be a problem. Yeah, you look like

59:40

a shooter. Yeah, you look like a shooter. That's so

59:42

funny, dude. Dude,

59:46

stem cells. I

59:50

know that just sounded like we made a cut. Amazing. I'm

59:52

just gonna keep it rolling. Amazing. I need

59:54

to know about this, bro. First of

59:56

all, how did you get into it? Is it expensive?

59:59

What is the difference? So

1:00:04

what I know is that when you do it

1:00:06

in like let's say Colombia, now Mexico's

1:00:09

opening up some state-of-the-art places. The

1:00:11

way legislation is written out and the rules of it,

1:00:14

you could get more stem cells per bag

1:00:17

outside of the country. Yeah I heard this. So

1:00:20

you know in a sense it comes out to

1:00:22

cheaper you could have a lot more there but

1:00:24

that's not to say that the stem cells in

1:00:26

America are not top-of-the-line and kick ass as well

1:00:29

though you can get less. For

1:00:31

example I've done stem cells on my hands

1:00:33

numerous times and three

1:00:36

times has been here in

1:00:38

the US and like it's

1:00:40

amazing. What does it look like? How

1:00:43

do you even go through that? Do they open you up?

1:00:46

Do they inject something? No, no, it's just like an injection.

1:00:48

They'll put a couple injections first some numb the area let's

1:00:50

say it was on my hands or something or like the

1:00:52

elbows they'll put something right here to hurt me. I

1:00:56

mean not really you know but

1:00:58

it can't hurt after like serious pain. So

1:01:00

I went to Colombia and I went to

1:01:02

bioxcellerator. That's like the number one place in

1:01:04

the world. That's a really good one. Coffee

1:01:07

and stem cells. Coffee and stem cells yeah

1:01:09

and Colombia has a bunch of American clinics.

1:01:11

You want to get a good American clinic,

1:01:14

get some good coffee and then boom boom boom you know

1:01:17

after the procedure it was like a lot of

1:01:19

pain. Why? It feels

1:01:22

like crazy ass growing pains like throbbing

1:01:24

all and like every second I just...

1:01:27

Because your cells are just like fixing

1:01:30

themselves? That on my knees is where

1:01:32

it hurts pretty much no yeah they're

1:01:34

like you know becoming one and they're

1:01:36

expiring the old ones again the new

1:01:38

ones in there they're replacing that but

1:01:40

I I was there about ten days

1:01:42

from my treatment. I did my knees,

1:01:44

my hands, my elbows and

1:01:48

I was like yeah this is gonna be like amazing you know

1:01:50

and they're like prepping me up and then you gotta kind of

1:01:52

like I had to report all that to you. You saw it

1:01:54

first so they got to prove it all this is where you're

1:01:56

gonna do the medical procedure. Alright boom you're good to go there.

1:01:59

So while I'm over this There was this dude that was

1:02:01

in the wheelchair. This is a true fucking story. Guy was

1:02:03

in the wheelchair. And I got there when he got there.

1:02:05

No, I got there and he was already there two, three

1:02:07

days, four days, I don't know like that. And he was

1:02:09

doing numerous procedures. Now what they were doing to him is

1:02:12

they were injecting in the bone

1:02:14

marrow in the spine, they were injecting stem

1:02:16

cell, right? And we

1:02:19

were at the same hotel, so I'd get down, I'd get

1:02:21

coffee, he's right there next to me. We'd kick

1:02:23

it, we started talking shit. He didn't

1:02:25

even know it was a fight, and then he found out what I did,

1:02:27

because people kept asking me for a picture. I didn't even know, man, we

1:02:29

just talking with you, bro, that's so cool. And then he

1:02:31

started following my fights and saw him on, and he said,

1:02:33

bro, I didn't know you fucking get down like that, it's

1:02:35

crazy, so now we're talking every time I see him. And

1:02:38

I don't know, like three, four days go by, and

1:02:41

I see him outside the

1:02:44

elevator. And he's with his friends and

1:02:47

stuff, and he's fucking crying. And

1:02:49

I'm like, damn, fuck, man. Maybe

1:02:52

they told him they couldn't do it or something like that,

1:02:54

or who knows, bro? And I'm feeling like, I

1:02:57

haven't known this guy for long, but still, it just

1:02:59

sucks to see a guy in a wheelchair that's so

1:03:01

cool, that's crying, I pull up. He's like with the

1:03:04

biggest smile, what's up, man? I'm

1:03:06

like, what's up, brother? You're like, man, I

1:03:08

haven't moved my toes in like 10 years. He's

1:03:12

fucking moving his toes and moving his toes. Yeah, he said

1:03:14

he hadn't done that in 10 years, so it was like,

1:03:16

fucking crazy. So that's why you said it was good news.

1:03:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, thank God, okay, cool, cool, cool. Moving

1:03:20

his toes and shit. Did you follow up with him later

1:03:22

on in life? I think I might've

1:03:25

talked to him one time after that, and then that's it, I

1:03:27

haven't talked to him since, but

1:03:29

this is like a miracle-like thing. Man, from my knees,

1:03:31

it did wonders, from my hands, it did wonders. From

1:03:34

like wrestling and then getting kicked in the knee

1:03:36

and then all the constant road work that we

1:03:38

do, I have like, and I've also torn my

1:03:40

meniscus three times on this knee, twice on this

1:03:43

one. I never did the repair because my coaches

1:03:45

and friends that had done the knee repair would

1:03:47

say, well, you're gonna be out for six months

1:03:49

with the repair, and on top of it, if

1:03:51

it breaks, it's like a lot worse now. It's

1:03:53

like way worse, you know? Because they're putting like man-made parts

1:03:55

in you, it's not the same, they're showing you up. So

1:03:57

what I always opted to do was rehab. And

1:04:00

I would turn my meniscus and do rehab, I don't

1:04:02

know, three to six months just to like strengthen back

1:04:04

up and get it right. But that developed like a

1:04:06

ton of scar tissue. So I really couldn't, for

1:04:09

one obvious reason that

1:04:11

I knew I had to get something, I couldn't break

1:04:13

parallel like on squats. It'd be like the most fucking

1:04:16

painful thing. If I had weight on me, it would

1:04:18

like destroy my knees to break like parallel. So my

1:04:20

range of motion was shit, you know? And

1:04:22

I'm also known for throwing really good knees, right? So I

1:04:24

should have some fucking range of motion on it so I

1:04:27

could bring them up higher, lower, whatever. And

1:04:29

I went there, did it, like a month

1:04:31

later, break parallel, like nothing happened, still to

1:04:33

this day, you know? So I definitely 100%

1:04:36

was in the sense of- Was it before or after Ben? After,

1:04:38

way after. They're like two years after that one. I

1:04:41

was about to say, I'm like, yeah. When

1:04:43

you did that, when you knocked him out with your knee,

1:04:45

did you know that you were gonna do that when the

1:04:48

fight was about to start? Was that your plan or was

1:04:50

it spontaneous? So we practiced

1:04:52

that for a while, right? And then we didn't

1:04:54

know if we were gonna do round one, round

1:04:56

two, round three. And also I

1:04:58

wanted to like read him, you know, last minute, like, is

1:05:00

he feeling aggressive? Cause I also don't want to throw in

1:05:02

then like, ah, I missed my chance. So I'm kind of

1:05:04

like, let me see how he's acting. And how he was

1:05:07

acting, he was giving me all the indications. He's

1:05:09

gonna try to sniff my crotch. I said that, I

1:05:11

said he's gonna swoop in. He's gonna swoop in, he's

1:05:13

gonna try to sniff my crotch. Cause that's what he

1:05:15

does, just like Kobe, he just want to sniff another

1:05:17

man instead of punching. How could you tell from him

1:05:19

standing across from me? The way he was acting was

1:05:21

very like, you know, trying to go forward, forward in

1:05:23

the referee. He's like, tell him to step back. I'm

1:05:25

like, yeah, he thinks he's just gonna get right into

1:05:28

his wrestling shit. Not, you know? I showed Bell

1:05:30

that and I was like, yeah, he was trying to swoop, that's

1:05:32

why he did it. He's like, really? I'm like,

1:05:34

yeah, I did that. And she goes, you've done that to somebody?

1:05:36

I go, Bella, if I've ever done that to somebody, I'd be

1:05:38

talking about it every day of my life. And chill out somebody.

1:05:41

Just last week, I knocked this dude down. Bella,

1:05:43

listen, fucking everybody was like, ah, damn.

1:05:45

George, he's 98 years old. Those that

1:05:48

matter, look at that range of motion,

1:05:50

baby. Technique. That's so funny. That's crazy

1:05:52

fun. Hey, speaking of Kobe, he

1:05:54

freaking knead you in the crotch so hard. So

1:05:57

low blow. Was that purpose, do you think? Of

1:05:59

course. It was on purpose, you know? And

1:06:02

did that hurt? It hurt,

1:06:04

but that was OK. The eye poke fucked

1:06:06

me up. I was like, for like a

1:06:09

whole round, my fucking eye swollen. And I

1:06:11

can't really like get my

1:06:13

fucking, my vision. Because when you get poked in this shit,

1:06:15

your eye's going to sweat up. And then it takes a

1:06:17

little bit of time. And then it starts to go down.

1:06:19

Though we're fighting, though we're moving, it's like one of the

1:06:21

most uncomfortable things. And it's also like one of the dumbest

1:06:24

rules. If you get need, you get up to five minutes,

1:06:26

right? If you get eye poked, there's like, the

1:06:29

doctor's going to come in, you're OK, well then continue.

1:06:31

So it's the most painful thing that could possibly happen

1:06:33

to you, by far. Give us a

1:06:35

second for our eye to adjust. It's like right away,

1:06:37

they're going to come in. That's your vision, too. Can

1:06:39

you see? And then if you're like, even you will

1:06:41

always lie. Yeah, yeah, of course I could see. Even

1:06:44

if I can't see. Over here. Yeah, I could see.

1:06:46

Because if you say something like, give me a second, fight

1:06:49

off. And it's bullshit, bro.

1:06:51

It's like, yo, give me a minute or two. And

1:06:53

my eye's going to come back. I just had a

1:06:55

fucking dude that's trained to hurt people, jab

1:06:57

me in the eye with his fingers. Speaking of

1:06:59

fights being off, the Nate Diaz fight being off, did

1:07:02

you agree with it? Did you think it should have

1:07:04

been stopped? Me, Persim,

1:07:06

from like, I wanted to not

1:07:08

kill him, but I wanted to leave him dead there. That's

1:07:11

killing him. Killing

1:07:13

him in the sport, because I never want to take

1:07:16

a man's life away in my profession. But I want

1:07:18

to leave him like, there's no question about it. No

1:07:20

pebble is going to take my greatness that you tripped

1:07:22

on. And then they're going to say, well, it's because

1:07:24

of the pebble. No, it was because of these hands,

1:07:26

and I put him down. So part of me, yeah,

1:07:28

but at the same time, they saved him like a

1:07:31

lifetime of injury and CT and concussions. So you think

1:07:33

he was done? Man, he had

1:07:35

two cuts on this side. One cut here, and I

1:07:37

had dropped him three times. Two

1:07:39

of those were. Dude, he could take a punch. He could take

1:07:41

a punch. But these kicks, he couldn't, because every time I hit

1:07:43

him, he went down. I hit him to the body, he went

1:07:45

down. I kicked him in the head, and he went down. And

1:07:47

one of them was from an overhand right. Can you take that

1:07:49

punishment? Yeah, but it does catch up

1:07:51

to you. It's not like, oh, I'm tough. Your

1:07:54

Usman fight, do you think that like

1:07:57

how you could receive a punch? Definitely, for

1:07:59

a while. That's it. took a lot of time off.

1:08:01

It's like, your chin only gets

1:08:03

weaker after things like that. You need to give it

1:08:05

the nice time to be trained, go do your neck,

1:08:08

work on your job, but your chin doesn't get strong

1:08:10

as it takes shots. Do you think that's why Volkanotsky

1:08:12

is like, just getting dropped

1:08:14

quick? Man, that Volk

1:08:16

fight, man. He's one of

1:08:18

my favorite all-time fighters, but when he fought Islam,

1:08:20

and I know because I've done it, when you

1:08:22

take a fight like an 11 days notice, 10

1:08:24

days notice, it's just- He's an animal. You know,

1:08:26

and you're going up, a weight class, you're fighting

1:08:28

one of the best guys in the world, and

1:08:30

you guys already had like a very good close

1:08:32

fight, which I thought Volk won the first one,

1:08:34

but it's a lot, man, and

1:08:38

this guy's already in shape, prepared, you know, in

1:08:40

the training camp. Yeah, you've been going to the

1:08:42

gym training, maybe you've been dieting, maybe you've been

1:08:44

clean with your diet, maybe you haven't. He's just

1:08:47

Australian, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put

1:08:49

the fosters down and said, let's go. Two

1:08:51

weeks, all right, I'm ready. Yeah, you know,

1:08:53

and it's just, those things catch

1:08:55

up to you, but Volk's one of the fucking best to ever do

1:08:57

it, man, as well. He's one

1:09:00

of my favorite, but I love his heart. Yeah, yeah, no,

1:09:02

they gotta fight anybody, anytime, any place, and he could do

1:09:04

it all. He could wrestle, he could grapple, he

1:09:06

could kick, he could punch, you know. But my boy,

1:09:08

Ili, though, I've been talking about him fucking since he

1:09:10

started in the UFC. The champ, the guy that knocked

1:09:12

out a Volkanovski, and

1:09:14

I, 145, Ili Topori, love

1:09:17

this guy. Beast. Beast, beast, and I've been,

1:09:19

I've known him for a minute, so I've been preaching

1:09:22

about my boy, telling people, man, this dude's a problem, man. I

1:09:24

got to work out with him a couple times, and I knew

1:09:26

since then, I was like, this guy's got it, you know, you

1:09:29

gotta be born with certain gifts, God has to give you, God

1:09:31

gave him plenty of gifts, you know. What ethnicity is he? He,

1:09:37

I'm gonna

1:09:39

tell you right now, he lives in Spain, but

1:09:41

he came from, fucking, where Marab

1:09:44

is from. I'm

1:09:46

gonna tell you right now, man, don't kick

1:09:48

my ass, Iliya. I think he's obsessed

1:09:50

with it. No, Georgia. Georgia,

1:09:52

he's Georgian originally. That's in the States.

1:09:55

No, no, no, the other one. There's

1:09:57

another Georgia? Yeah. I didn't even

1:09:59

know that. Yeah, by Europe, by... Damn, I'm so

1:10:01

uneducated. Yeah, Georgia, huh? Yeah,

1:10:03

does he get his peaches from it? No,

1:10:06

that's from the Georgia peaches. Yeah Different

1:10:13

type of peaches over there, but yeah, um, he's

1:10:15

Georgian and then he defected to Spain and now

1:10:17

he's been there his whole life. I Just

1:10:22

want to know why you have not Gotten

1:10:25

into the ring with Conor McGregor because that

1:10:27

would He

1:10:29

wouldn't he doesn't want to do that you've see offered it

1:10:31

to him many times He would bring him

1:10:34

my size, but he's on my weight class. You are in

1:10:36

the same weight class He's at 170 not competing. He wanted

1:10:38

to do the fight at 185 against Chandler And it's always

1:10:40

been kind of like they bring it up to me shuts

1:10:42

it down He doesn't never mention

1:10:44

my names in interviews. I could say you still fight him

1:10:46

now or no because he just came out of time Yeah,

1:10:48

I would I would fight. Yeah, I'm doing the boxing now.

1:10:51

I'm gonna focus on that Like I said, I got those

1:10:53

three fights. He's had time to recover Brown and I feel

1:10:55

like he's Sauce

1:11:09

daddy they may not allow but Testing

1:11:15

agency there was a place

1:11:17

called you saw right? You're like, oh shit, you're

1:11:19

getting drug tested and random. Oh, you had a

1:11:21

barbecue cool. What's that? Yeah, we got that Where

1:11:24

do they say? Where's it from? You saw

1:11:26

that like you saw nothing here, bro Just

1:11:32

like that but they roll up well, then why did

1:11:34

he get so mad at Ryan Garcia? Is

1:11:36

he trying to just cover his footprints or

1:11:39

something? It's projecting man You know a hundred

1:11:41

percent projecting because you could see

1:11:43

in the movie, bro He wasn't natural and before

1:11:45

that he wasn't natural, you know a massive, you

1:11:47

know It was like 220 pounds and and

1:11:50

he had broken his foot. So he said he was doing juice for this and

1:11:52

I was like Motherfucker, which one is it? You

1:11:54

know, did you do it or did you not you know and

1:11:56

it's something that I Mean,

1:11:58

but if he was doing it for recovery Is that fine?

1:12:01

And also it's like let's talk about the right issue thing

1:12:04

is whatever they said he was on if

1:12:06

he was on it What if what did it have made that

1:12:08

big of a difference? I? Think

1:12:12

so if he was on it, I'm not sure exactly

1:12:14

what he was on I forgot but one of the

1:12:16

components that I heard said that

1:12:19

it did boost abuse is awesome So that's

1:12:21

always gonna be a fucking red flag for

1:12:23

cheating. Like anything you take that's banned substance

1:12:25

There's things you could take that they say

1:12:27

that are not banned substance They can boost

1:12:29

up your testosterone, but anything that you take

1:12:31

that Pharmaceutical boost up your testosterone cheating,

1:12:33

you know, I don't know what we're Ryan on again

1:12:35

Exactly. I gotta see but I know he did beat

1:12:37

it though cuz the second sample came back clean So

1:12:39

it's clean, you know, but does that mean that time

1:12:41

was like it was just passed so it's out of

1:12:43

his no It could you could get a false positive.

1:12:45

That's what he had. He probably he went he took

1:12:47

some supplements Carelessly probably from like

1:12:50

GMC or something and these weren't the best supplements

1:12:52

because they make them where they make other shit

1:12:54

You know so you can get trace samples in

1:12:56

your urine or your blood and then when they

1:12:58

test you need to do further Investigations

1:13:01

because not they they'll take like three samples

1:13:03

right you you'll you'll do blood And

1:13:06

then piss and you'll piss in like two to three

1:13:08

different cups And they'll send these cups out to different

1:13:10

laboratories different amounts and they're gonna test them in if

1:13:12

one of these places says Oh wait, we found something

1:13:14

here They're gonna send the second one there to do

1:13:16

a further investigation on it, you know, and it's like

1:13:18

very thorough detailed or at least You

1:13:21

saw it was pretty pretty good Worked them for

1:13:23

like nine years and um never

1:13:26

melt never failed to test 50 attempts cleans can

1:13:28

beat never also miss Wait, something that I carry

1:13:30

with a lot of honor in my career, you

1:13:32

know And uh, these motherfuckers didn't like it

1:13:34

a lot of these motherfuckers And that's why I think Connor

1:13:36

went away because this you saw this was making his life,

1:13:38

you know Yeah, so that little

1:13:40

that if you don't want to find me then you don't

1:13:43

want to find me now Yeah, you scared of your knees

1:13:45

scared of the knees. He's scared of the size,

1:13:47

you know, I'll so confident talking shit I

1:13:50

guess so uncomfortable because I'll run into one of these guys and they'll

1:13:52

be like, oh, yeah You want to talk on your podcast come talk

1:13:54

over here problems man, I'm

1:13:56

just Hey,

1:13:59

come here Dude, I'm pretty

1:14:01

sure they're trying to make us communists over here,

1:14:03

but you gotta come over here. Where

1:14:07

is he at? Where

1:14:10

is he at? So you're still signed with the

1:14:12

UFC, so there is a possibility that God willing

1:14:14

you guys could fight. Yeah, yeah, there's always possibilities.

1:14:16

I would love it too. I would love it.

1:14:18

Well, this is your, this is your invite, you

1:14:20

know? You light up the last guy

1:14:22

that he fought, not Dustin,

1:14:24

I'm talking about Nate, and then you light

1:14:26

him up. I already lit up Nate, you

1:14:28

know, and that's another thing. He had very competitive fights, which

1:14:30

I thought he lost both to Nate, and Nate won the

1:14:33

second fight clear as they had a meeting, won three rounds

1:14:35

to two, and they

1:14:37

gifted that one to Connor because he draws. That,

1:14:39

I can't say, the guy draws, nobody, you know? Does

1:14:43

Dana favor him? It's not that

1:14:45

Dana favors him, it's just that Dana's a businessman, and

1:14:47

if, you know, you could,

1:14:49

I'm your boy, but I only get you 10,000 views, how

1:14:51

many times you're gonna invite me in the episode, but you

1:14:53

got so-and-so that gets 100 million views, you're gonna be like,

1:14:55

yo, I need you to come through, you know? So

1:14:58

it's like, it's not, I don't know

1:15:00

how they are with each other behind

1:15:02

the cameras, but Dana's just being a

1:15:04

businessman, he's booking one of the biggest

1:15:07

pay-per-view machines that we have, you know? It

1:15:10

makes sense, because Connor, I mean, like, listen, I'm

1:15:12

not, before I started seeing George, like, I knew

1:15:14

nothing about fighting, because why am I gonna, I

1:15:16

just knew nothing, you know? My love, you still

1:15:18

know nothing. I still know nothing, but I know

1:15:20

a little bit more. I don't even know anything.

1:15:22

I know a little bit more, okay? Right? Even

1:15:25

I knew about Connor McGregor, you know what I mean, at

1:15:27

the time when he was popping off, and I knew about

1:15:29

his drama and everything that's going on, because I think he's

1:15:31

such a character, and he's able to promote himself so well,

1:15:33

and I think it's like, he could be a really good

1:15:35

fighter, and he could be a really good character and promoter

1:15:37

of yourself, I mean. Yeah, it's the full package. Yeah, and

1:15:39

you need to be able, and now, you know, the sport's

1:15:41

going more and more towards that, you know? It's

1:15:44

like, if you can't promote yourself- Because

1:15:47

it's a showbiz, at the end of the day, it's a

1:15:49

showbiz. Who do you think is following

1:15:53

closer in his footsteps? Would you say it's

1:15:55

like Sean O'Malley? Sean O'Malley's doing

1:15:57

good, he's doing his own thing. I think- You

1:16:00

guys are not in the same weight class. No, no, he's a 135er. Yeah,

1:16:02

yeah, yeah. That would have been a great matchup. Because

1:16:04

you guys are very fast. Yeah, and both stand-up guys,

1:16:06

I wish. You know, from a perspective, like, I'm a

1:16:08

fan of his, and I love his style. I would

1:16:10

love to fight a guy like that, because he's a

1:16:13

fighter. He comes to knock people dead, you know, and

1:16:15

I love that. He's a good person, too. Yeah, no,

1:16:17

he's cool as hell. I like him a lot. Cool

1:16:19

as hell. I like Sean. I've liked him since

1:16:21

he got on the scene. He has his own style, and he fucking, he

1:16:23

doesn't, you know, you look at him, too, just doesn't

1:16:25

look like a fighter, you know what I'm saying? He

1:16:27

looks like a skateboarder, like the coolest kid at the

1:16:29

party or something, and he shows up, wap, wap, wap,

1:16:32

wap. He's fast and mean. Dude, he's just so precise.

1:16:34

You make one mistake, and he'll catch you. He's got

1:16:36

the range, you know, and he's another guy that he

1:16:38

sells really well. He's a showman, and he fucking backs

1:16:40

it up. You know why? Because he jumped into social

1:16:43

media as well. And

1:16:45

he has this just, like, very charismatic character that

1:16:47

if any, if it's Nelk that's recording him, or

1:16:49

Impulsive that's recording him, he has that image that,

1:16:51

like, I feel he portrays very well that other

1:16:53

men want to be like. Yeah. And I think

1:16:55

he does that very well. He looks natural at

1:16:57

doing it, you know what I mean? It doesn't

1:16:59

look like a gimmick he, like, fucking... He's not

1:17:02

trying hard. Yeah. It's who he is. Like, other

1:17:04

fuck faces out there that I won't mention the

1:17:06

name, you know? But he looks like he's actually,

1:17:08

like, that's him, you know? Who

1:17:10

gets underneath your skin now that you're like, oh, man, I'm

1:17:12

just going to, I want to show up with a pizza?

1:17:16

I mean... To

1:17:19

me, they're all the same, bro. I'm

1:17:21

going to give a fuck about, you know? I

1:17:23

don't know. OK, let's talk about the mic

1:17:26

then. My... My

1:17:29

thickness of skin is so thick to it, you

1:17:31

know, like, oh, somebody called me out, oh, somebody

1:17:33

just respected me, or, oh, somebody said I'm a

1:17:35

fucking punk. Whatever, you know? Fucking used to it

1:17:37

all, you know? Yeah. That must be... That must

1:17:39

feel good to have shit just roll off of

1:17:41

you. Because, like, give me the

1:17:43

shit. It takes so much energy. A lot of

1:17:45

these people know that because I actually, you know,

1:17:47

I should never say this in public because of

1:17:50

my promoters knowing that, like, oh, we paid way

1:17:52

too much for him. But I actually like the

1:17:54

fight, you know? So, like, I'm not looking for

1:17:56

it. But if I step outside of here and

1:17:58

somebody wants to rendezvous... And I'm like, I got

1:18:00

five minutes or five seconds to spare. So

1:18:04

be it. So when these motherfuckers be talking, and

1:18:06

then they see me, their whole mood changes because,

1:18:08

oh, this dude's for real going to come at

1:18:10

me. They take off. Or, hey,

1:18:12

boy, that was just online. Let me get a picture. No,

1:18:15

bro. Right here, right

1:18:17

now. So that actually

1:18:19

wanted to ask you that. That

1:18:21

was one of her questions. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she goes,

1:18:23

do you think people come up to him and just

1:18:26

want to start shit? Because they like know who he

1:18:28

is. Well, because certainly, you're in an environment. Like in

1:18:30

Vegas, I feel like people have this different, when they're

1:18:32

here, they're in party mode. They're just in like, they're

1:18:34

ready to say shit to people or whatever, right? They're

1:18:36

drunk. So I feel like, yeah, even, you know, so

1:18:38

I feel like they see you and they're like, trying

1:18:40

to say whatever. I don't know. You get like, dudes

1:18:43

that are across a personal space a lot. Because like

1:18:45

you said, we're in Vegas and had way too many

1:18:47

drinks. And they're like, way too friendly or, you know.

1:18:49

Like, man, I'm fucking hugging you. I'm going to get

1:18:51

the arm off. And they're heavy when they're drunk, dude.

1:18:54

I'm like, all right, man. Here

1:18:56

and there, I'll take a picture with somebody and they'll

1:18:59

put their hands way too low. And I was like,

1:19:01

you don't want to do that, big dog. You better

1:19:03

lift your hand up, man. That's

1:19:06

going to be a problem. Put the hands a little on you. Yeah,

1:19:08

yeah, you know. Like, picture time. Instead

1:19:11

of just being ready to have like

1:19:13

their hands. Like they're cuffing you? And

1:19:15

I'm like, you want to die? They're

1:19:18

grabbing your waist? What are you doing? So

1:19:21

yeah, that's about it. But no,

1:19:24

they don't, I mean, if they recognize me,

1:19:26

they also know like, this dude will clean my

1:19:28

clock if I get stupid. They know better, yeah.

1:19:30

I guess they, because you never know something. Some

1:19:32

people are just kind of stupid and, you know,

1:19:34

they want to just, they want to see something

1:19:36

happen. When I was younger, I used to compete

1:19:38

also at a different weight and I was like

1:19:40

very skinny and a big ass head. So I

1:19:42

would get more, yeah, like I- Metaphorically or just

1:19:44

when you actually had a big head? Bigger, it

1:19:46

looked way bigger than what it does now, you

1:19:48

know. So I was like, I don't know, 15

1:19:50

pounds less. So I looked way skinny, you know.

1:19:53

And like out of my group of friends, if

1:19:55

we went out for some reason or another, it'd

1:19:57

be me, and we'd get like tried.

1:19:59

I had to disrespect it or like things would come

1:20:01

my way. And I'm like, bro, I really, I don't

1:20:04

get it. I don't even look for this shit, you know, but I'm

1:20:06

not running from it either. So

1:20:09

I have his friend named Kaveh and he is,

1:20:14

he's not a mixed martial artist. He's not even a good

1:20:16

fighter. He just has the heart of a fighter, bro. Like

1:20:18

he just wants to smoke all the time. Like all the

1:20:20

time. In fact, like I'm not joking. There's times where I'll

1:20:22

face, my mom will FaceTime me and she'll like point the

1:20:25

camera at Kaveh and she's not even with him. She's just

1:20:27

on the street and he's fighting some dude on the sidewalk.

1:20:29

Like this guy just loses his mind all the time. I

1:20:31

got a job for him. It'll

1:20:33

take that job, bro. You know what

1:20:36

he says? I don't look for it, but I'll end

1:20:38

it. That's his mentality. Especially on the road, he has

1:20:40

very bad road rage. And like, I

1:20:42

always beg him, I go, bro, you're going to get shot.

1:20:44

And he's been shot at and he still doesn't change his

1:20:46

thing. Yeah, yeah, the road rage is so much. There's

1:20:50

one time I've seen him change his mind. Now, mind

1:20:53

you, there was one time we're at a

1:20:55

club and this dude is like, I'm

1:20:57

talking. He looks like the Incredible Hulk. And

1:21:00

he's behind my friend Kaveh.

1:21:02

His head is up against a

1:21:04

really sharp end of a, like

1:21:06

this type of thing. And I'm like, if this guy just

1:21:08

hits him one time, he's dead. So

1:21:10

I come up to him and I'm like, listen, dude, like you're

1:21:13

going to lose his fight. He's like, I'm going to go, fuck.

1:21:15

And he's just staring at this dude, chest out and

1:21:17

he will never back away. There's only one time

1:21:19

we've ever walked away. And by the way, I'm never

1:21:21

wanting to fight. I'm just there with my boy and

1:21:24

I'm an idiot. I'm young. So I'm like,

1:21:26

if my boy goes down, now I'm going

1:21:28

down. Now I tell him, I go, I'm telling you

1:21:30

right now, I'm the first one to call him the

1:21:32

cops and I'm showing them where you live. Like I'm

1:21:34

not having this. My girl's waiting for me. I got

1:21:36

to throw the garbage. I got to go. I'm not

1:21:38

a part of this book. He calls me one day,

1:21:40

he's at Old Town Scottsdale in Arizona. Or

1:21:43

I think this is Old Town. I don't know exactly

1:21:45

where the location is. He's cracking up. He's like, I

1:21:47

almost got murdered right now. I go, why? He goes,

1:21:49

I'm at the bar. I'm walking to this club. I'm

1:21:52

trying to meet this chicken. This dude's just looking at

1:21:54

me. And I don't like the way he's looking at

1:21:56

me. So I'm looking at him back and I'm like,

1:21:58

all right, I wonder what this guy. did to scare

1:22:00

this one guy that's been shot at. He had a

1:22:03

body builder almost throw him in the trash can. Like,

1:22:05

who and what did this guy do? He goes, I'm

1:22:07

looking at this guy. And now I'm like, what is

1:22:09

he? And then for a split second, I go, maybe

1:22:11

this guy knows me because I think I know this

1:22:14

guy. So finally he steps up a little closer, and

1:22:16

he's about to be like, what the fuck you looking

1:22:18

at? He goes, I get close,

1:22:20

and the club light hits the dude's face.

1:22:22

He goes, dude, it was Nate Diaz. He

1:22:25

goes, I pretended like I was looking past

1:22:27

him. I

1:22:29

committed to like, he goes, my eyes just shifted

1:22:32

a little past the shoulder, and he just kept

1:22:34

walking. And he goes, Nate was like, I am

1:22:36

thinking that he was coming. He goes, dog, dog,

1:22:38

I pretended that I saw right

1:22:40

through him. And I was like, that's a good choice,

1:22:42

dude, because that would be a bad fight to. But

1:22:44

you guys don't care. Anybody could get the smoke. If

1:22:46

you guys get looked at in a certain way. I

1:22:49

mean, look, nah, you have to violate my

1:22:51

personal space. You look at me weird,

1:22:53

and I take a picture of the last one. But

1:22:56

if I feel threatened, you got a

1:22:59

problem in your hands. And that's if you violate

1:23:01

my personal space, because I don't know you, so

1:23:03

I'm not going to violate your personal space ever.

1:23:05

I'm going to let you chill over there. But if you

1:23:08

start getting that

1:23:10

touching zone, I'll

1:23:13

forgive me. You can't touch. That's

1:23:16

a good way to put it. But don't try to

1:23:19

touch. The way I've been

1:23:21

since a kid, it's like don't let nobody

1:23:24

put their hands on you so you come home. Don't

1:23:26

come home with that black eye. I'll give

1:23:28

you the other black eye. Make sure you give it out

1:23:30

before you come home with that shit. OK, dad. My

1:23:33

dad made me, he raised me in a liquor store.

1:23:37

Let's just say we can lock it from the inside, just in

1:23:39

case people want to try to run away. And

1:23:41

I think that's the, nah, that is

1:23:43

the one thing regret. He always says, he goes,

1:23:45

my biggest regret is putting my son through that.

1:23:48

But I loved it, because

1:23:50

I'll watch my friends mouth

1:23:52

off. And I'm like, man, you really

1:23:55

haven't seen the repercussion of a mouth

1:23:57

that just keeps moving. I've

1:23:59

seen people. people's lives change right in front

1:24:01

of me. It is within

1:24:03

a blink of an eye, and sadly it's

1:24:05

like with people, they don't even remember what

1:24:08

they look like. And so like, I've never

1:24:10

been in situations, thank God, where I'm like,

1:24:12

this is life threatening, but

1:24:15

I mean I have, but it wasn't my fault. But I've

1:24:18

learned from my experience of raised

1:24:20

in a liquor store when I would see these

1:24:23

crazy things happening, or with my friends at a

1:24:25

hookah bar in like the avenues. It's not

1:24:27

a good place to get in trouble. The

1:24:29

same guy, Kaveh, we're at a, this

1:24:32

guy actually, he was mentally just,

1:24:35

he would have a machete tucked in all the

1:24:37

time. And he would pull it out

1:24:39

and just tap things. Oh, he

1:24:41

was a psychopath. But he was a

1:24:43

nice guy. Jason might as well. But he would

1:24:45

just, like a switch, some days

1:24:48

you come up to us, yo what's up? And then

1:24:50

some days we look at him and it's like, oh

1:24:52

we can't talk to him today. Like he's just, nah,

1:24:54

he's not there. And one day we

1:24:56

were walking in, I'll never forget this, it was called Arizona.

1:25:00

And he was just up against the door. And

1:25:04

for some reason, thank God, I guess I'm

1:25:06

just like the really outgoing, nice Christian boy.

1:25:08

So people didn't really like, they

1:25:10

would just be mean to like come after me.

1:25:12

Cause I'm praying for your mother or something. You

1:25:14

know what I mean? Like, you're not going to

1:25:16

come after me. But the loud Persian kid that's

1:25:18

super confident, he's like, get him, get him, right?

1:25:20

And so he walked in, I'll never forget this

1:25:22

bro. I'm standing, I swear to you bro, closer

1:25:24

than this. And he went up and

1:25:27

I'm dapping off, this is how close we are, then I have to go

1:25:29

like this, I go, what up my man? And he goes, what's up dude?

1:25:31

Just daps me up. And Kave

1:25:33

just walks in, bro, I don't even remember

1:25:35

why this happened. Smacked

1:25:38

him so hard across the face.

1:25:41

I was so scared that I was next. Cause I'm like,

1:25:43

we're getting in, the guy in front of me, he's

1:25:46

not moving. I just watched my best friend get smacked.

1:25:48

Now this guy has to be an intimidating man to

1:25:50

smack my best friend in front of me. And me

1:25:52

look at my best friend like, why did you put

1:25:54

us in this situation dude? So

1:25:56

I look at him, I look at this guy and he goes, you guys are not

1:25:59

coming in today. I was like, yes

1:26:01

sir. Dude, the guy smacked him so hard

1:26:03

and for absolutely no reason. So

1:26:05

like, I've been in situations where I'm just like, things

1:26:08

just happen for no reason. Like there's- That's another one

1:26:10

of those moments where you gotta kill me. You

1:26:13

got, you slapped me. That's

1:26:16

what you said. I had to talk him off. Now

1:26:18

you gotta kill me. Nah, so here's the reason why,

1:26:20

bro. Disrespectful. Because obviously that guy's not there. It's a

1:26:22

combination that first, you're gonna trigger the worst trauma. My

1:26:24

mom beating my ass, because in all my 50 fights,

1:26:27

no one's ever whipped my ass harder than my mom. I'm

1:26:30

not even lying. Like being 9'10". And I don't blame

1:26:32

her because she's raising a wild man. My

1:26:35

mom has whipped my ass. So the

1:26:37

slaps, it's like- BTS, the instant fucking,

1:26:39

I'm six years old, seven years old

1:26:41

again. One of us has to go. Lit

1:26:46

straight up. One of us has to go. But

1:26:48

we could both no longer be in like, this

1:26:51

plane right now. We're going for

1:26:53

it right now. And you did it by slapping me, bro. And

1:26:55

I didn't want to do it, but we're going

1:26:57

to town now, you know? And there's too much trauma.

1:26:59

I can't deal with a slap. You

1:27:01

could punch me, I'm gonna punch you back and knock you out.

1:27:03

Okay, but you slapped me? No,

1:27:05

I've been smacked and punched a few times where I'm like,

1:27:07

sorry about it. And I'll just bounce. Cause like, why? Here's

1:27:11

the thing. We have different experiences. You

1:27:13

want to stand on that business. Me, my dad has a

1:27:15

pretty successful business going on. And I want to take that

1:27:17

business from one day. You know what I mean? Like,

1:27:20

I ain't trying to prove, man. I

1:27:22

already got her. I already won, bro. You

1:27:25

smack me, I'll give you the other cheek. Jesus told me to

1:27:27

do it, bro. No, but. So

1:27:30

one thing I can't say nothing about. Okay. It's

1:27:33

like, man, I can't say nothing to

1:27:35

that. Gosh, Jesus, why you

1:27:37

say that literally? You said, slaps, you give him

1:27:39

the other cheek. That is like the hardest one

1:27:42

of the things, you know? I'm working through all the

1:27:44

other ones. It's a constant going battle,

1:27:46

but I'm winning more now than

1:27:48

ever. Amen. No, for a hundred percent. But

1:27:51

that slap, oh boy. It

1:27:53

brings you back. It brings you back. And

1:27:55

I started doing math in my head. If

1:27:57

I get them, it's one for one. And then, come on. You

1:28:00

know, but it's wrong. It's wrong and it really That's

1:28:04

why Jesus is my Lord and Savior because

1:28:06

he never put a knife to anybody's neck

1:28:08

to get him to convert He never used

1:28:10

by I'm complete opposite and you know for

1:28:12

many different reasons, but you're Paul You're

1:28:15

in the stage of the bad part Peter It's

1:28:20

just like in me since a kid and then

1:28:22

the environment to it just like Polish

1:28:24

it up a little bit more like if you

1:28:26

if you let somebody slap you right? This

1:28:29

is what happens usually there as I was growing up now

1:28:31

you come to school on Monday thing you

1:28:33

freshers and I like Nice shoes. What size

1:28:35

are they? You know Nah,

1:28:38

what do you mean? What's up? I can slap

1:28:40

the end and taking your shoes off and this

1:28:42

is my I'm not gonna deal with that

1:28:44

and I learned that a young age if I let I Step

1:28:48

on me and step on me like a cigarette But

1:28:50

if if I check you right at

1:28:52

the front door you can chill right there You can find somebody

1:28:54

else to do it out or you might even stop all together,

1:28:57

you know, so And

1:29:07

I start lying to myself because What's

1:29:10

the one miracle even atheists could agree on

1:29:12

the Jesus did let's see if you notice

1:29:15

the one miracle Jesus

1:29:17

that atheist believe that Jesus did

1:29:20

raised from the dead I feel like they wouldn't believe that

1:29:22

because they don't believe one miracle He

1:29:24

turned water into wine because they want to party.

1:29:27

I don't even is this a riddle. What's the

1:29:29

real? It's a real question. They believe in atheist

1:29:31

could agree on this miracle They

1:29:40

got a nice ice cream shop over there if y'all get it right

1:29:42

some me Okay The

1:29:45

one miracle that even atheist

1:29:49

could agree on That

1:29:51

he was loving a miracle. That's a miracle.

1:29:53

Let me just say it or you go one more

1:29:55

time I feel like you guys got as a team

1:29:57

you guys got it. You guys got it, right? No,

1:30:00

no checking Google you can't

1:30:02

actually An

1:30:08

atheist believes that Jesus did this miracle

1:30:13

He said I don't know what is it

1:30:16

he said give on to Caesar where the

1:30:18

Caesars and give To God was from the

1:30:20

kingdom of God and right then in their church and stay

1:30:22

got separated Atheists

1:30:24

could agree on that as well I

1:30:29

Do you want to be the new co-host bro, I

1:30:31

like this vibe so listen with this vibe so

1:30:33

then I start messing with myself I go wow

1:30:37

She's right if you said that right

1:30:39

and not this dude slapped me. I'm

1:30:41

just doing what Don't

1:30:44

get mad at me. You know, but

1:30:46

it doesn't work like that. You know, it's it's it's I'll

1:30:49

say this when I was going through something

1:30:53

I there I was always questioning why

1:30:55

I was going through it and so

1:30:57

embarrassingly in front of people and I

1:31:01

had a lot of people messaged me that they

1:31:03

saw Jesus in me when I didn't Retaliate

1:31:06

in anger or emotions and then

1:31:08

people would call me out whenever I get emotional

1:31:10

and like hey, bro That ain't you cut that

1:31:13

out and I realized you could see a lot

1:31:15

more of Jesus in

1:31:17

a human being when they do something that

1:31:19

just dumb founds you like that guy just

1:31:21

smacked you and you were like Oh,

1:31:23

it's okay. It's totally fine Because

1:31:26

that's puzzling because even if I have no God

1:31:28

you put your hands on me I'm

1:31:31

calling Jorge Masvidal and calling

1:31:33

you a communist a good call You know I'm saying like

1:31:35

I it's a good call But like

1:31:37

when somebody sees an action and they're

1:31:40

like and I so that I understand

1:31:42

now why? That's what happened

1:31:44

to Paul It all started when

1:31:46

he saw a Christian being killed and

1:31:48

just the way he was talking right before he

1:31:50

got killed They just opened up his heart his

1:31:52

mind. He's like how could somebody believe

1:31:54

in something this much? So

1:31:56

in the next time you get smacked just know that

1:31:58

you might turn somebody Christian if you turned out like a kid. Oh

1:32:01

my God, man, don't put that in the universe now. You

1:32:05

know how many times I've seen street preachers getting

1:32:08

slapped and they're just... They're holding their

1:32:10

ground? No, they're just, I'ma

1:32:13

pray for you my brother. I love you, God

1:32:15

bless. I am like, man, God bless you. That

1:32:17

is like, wow. Look at Bishop

1:32:19

Maramari. Oh my gosh, that is crazy.

1:32:21

And he's like, he lost his eyebrow. I know,

1:32:23

and I'm here talking about me getting slapped. I'ma

1:32:25

go to war and this poor gentleman,

1:32:28

it's nothing but spreading the word and doing good,

1:32:30

literally loses his eye. And all he could do

1:32:32

is pray for this guy. Like if it was

1:32:34

his mother, brother, sister. You know what broke my

1:32:36

heart, bro? So he's

1:32:39

an Assyrian man. And like every

1:32:41

culture, you know, there's

1:32:45

separation in the culture, right? Oh,

1:32:47

he's this and the type of Assyrian and this type of Assyrian.

1:32:50

But I had a few Assyrians come up to me and they'd be like,

1:32:52

bro, I don't even believe that he lost his eye. I think he's covering

1:32:54

it. And I'm like, damn, for

1:32:56

you to just lie and go and like tell

1:32:58

people to believe that lie. It's not

1:33:00

only that he lost his eye and he's so gracious about

1:33:02

it. I mean, you could see that when it's in slow

1:33:04

motion, the thing's not open, but he hits him in the

1:33:06

eye. Yeah. It's like, man. And bro, he

1:33:08

was praying on him right when he got hit. So dude,

1:33:11

the guy got hit in the eye. His eye's hurting, like

1:33:13

really bad. Cause you even said, if you get hit in

1:33:15

the eye, it's the worst pain. This guy got stabbed, nah.

1:33:17

And then immediately he starts praying over him. But people would

1:33:19

be like, nah, bro, that's fake. And I'm like, dang, bro.

1:33:21

You could really do the greatest thing in the world He

1:33:25

lives in a different spiritual realm.

1:33:27

Like he's something else. Have you

1:33:29

met him? No, I haven't. But I would love to just

1:33:31

shake his hand and like. I'm gonna be doing a podcast

1:33:33

with him. Oh my God. I think it would be very

1:33:35

interesting for you to be a part of that podcast. I

1:33:37

just like shake his hand and be a fly. That would

1:33:39

be a very different world. I just hang out in the

1:33:41

wall and just like a fly. I just chill out, watch

1:33:44

her do things. You're like an earthly fighter and he's a

1:33:46

spiritual fighter. And just like, ah, yeah, yeah.

1:33:48

He's like different though, man. I mean, he's just like,

1:33:51

you know, it's a lot, you know.

1:33:53

And not just that, but he's had like a lot of

1:33:55

moments too where I'm like, man. You know, and I also

1:33:57

like that he does speak firm, that he

1:33:59

does say. as a Christian things that

1:34:01

we should be holding from that you can't forgive and

1:34:03

give the devil an inch on you know so it's

1:34:05

definitely somebody that I freaking look up to

1:34:08

your back yeah you know and then after that it's

1:34:10

like I just can't even put him into words like

1:34:12

man that is that

1:34:14

is beyond shouting monk discipline this is something else

1:34:16

like this guy has never had a potato chip

1:34:19

like how could you do that you know you

1:34:21

just lost your eye and immediately instead of like

1:34:23

worrying about your eyeball oh am I gonna we

1:34:25

start praying for you like do you know the

1:34:27

type of pain he must have been in his

1:34:31

spirit is so strong and so tied with

1:34:33

God he's not it's like

1:34:35

you know like us as humans like when something happens to

1:34:37

you you think like okay what would I do what would

1:34:39

I do you like rely on yourself and then if you

1:34:41

take a moment then you realize okay no like this is

1:34:43

the brow need to take because this is what God would

1:34:46

want me to do but he's so tied with him that

1:34:48

he doesn't even need to take the second to think about

1:34:50

it it's just natural for him and

1:34:52

like that's like and how many how

1:34:54

many non-christians

1:34:57

saw that and immediately said

1:34:59

hold up why hold

1:35:01

up that is mm-hmm that is what we were

1:35:03

talking about bro that is exactly why Jesus is

1:35:05

acting why didn't he why didn't he call the

1:35:07

cop why didn't he know why why did he

1:35:09

just start praying over me if you just analyze

1:35:11

that for a second man the

1:35:14

power of prayer he's like I don't need anybody

1:35:16

else let's pull it back imagine being killed being

1:35:19

an innocent man on a cross and

1:35:21

right before you die you're watching

1:35:23

like they're booing at him and they're spitting

1:35:25

on him they're disrespecting Jesus and while he's

1:35:27

on the cross imagine what it did to

1:35:29

the people's heart that watch this man say

1:35:31

God forgive them they don't know if

1:35:34

I was angry at somebody and we

1:35:37

just got done pulling his beard out stabbing

1:35:39

him spitting on him disrespecting him and in

1:35:41

his last breath he prays for me bro

1:35:44

that's gonna make me think a bit

1:35:47

no you're gonna you're gonna do number two

1:35:49

yourself and go you know I fucked up

1:35:51

just like that Roman when he saw me

1:35:53

here he fell down man I had this

1:35:55

you know or how about if

1:35:58

you were the dude that was on the cross about

1:36:00

to go to hell and then you

1:36:02

just meet Jesus right there. Isn't

1:36:04

that like the greatest? He says don't forget

1:36:06

me man. Don't forget me and that's he's

1:36:08

like I want. And that is like the

1:36:10

greatest get out of jail free card ever

1:36:12

of life. Like you literally about to die

1:36:15

and you probably did some fucked up shit.

1:36:17

So you know where you're going but you

1:36:19

met Jesus at that moment. That's

1:36:21

cool man. I love that moment because that

1:36:24

moment is so powerful because a lot of

1:36:27

Christians, Catholics and any other type of

1:36:29

religion, they like to provide their work

1:36:32

in between God's work. Like I got to heaven

1:36:35

because of my works here and because God saved

1:36:37

me. But that showed us right

1:36:39

there. That man couldn't even move. He

1:36:41

couldn't go down and get baptized. He couldn't go

1:36:43

donate to the poor. He couldn't go change his

1:36:46

ways. But in that moment

1:36:48

he identified who God was. And

1:36:51

to me it's like that could solve so

1:36:53

many problems bro. You just got to identify.

1:36:56

Me and you can have just a spiritual, we

1:36:58

should just have like a, we should get together

1:37:00

one day to have a podcast. Like just our

1:37:02

favorite Bible verses and what it's helped us. You

1:37:05

know what I saw the other day? Because

1:37:08

you know, I'll have like discussions like this.

1:37:10

I like not, I

1:37:13

guess like a debate or whatever but I do

1:37:15

like talking to people without disrespecting each other. Like

1:37:17

let's be so cool. You respect me. If we

1:37:19

talk about something touchy, you know. Obviously not me

1:37:21

and you because we got a lot of same

1:37:23

viewpoints and more but like people with different religions

1:37:25

are like atheists. And I'm

1:37:27

always like, hey, listen, man I'm not doing this because I

1:37:30

want you to come to my church and donate. I'm

1:37:32

just doing it because it could

1:37:34

improve your life drastically. It's just like,

1:37:39

I really agree that this is like the best thing

1:37:41

that you could do. And I'll tell people that, you

1:37:43

know. And then I'll talk and stuff. And then I

1:37:45

was talking to the other day and I went

1:37:47

back and looked stuff up. And

1:37:50

you know that there was 40 historians or

1:37:52

40 different historians. A lot of them

1:37:54

weren't Christian. They wrote about Jesus, like

1:37:57

40 different historians. This is a carpenter.

1:38:00

Right that was born into like a

1:38:02

broke family and yeah, you know until

1:38:04

his ministry then he took off

1:38:06

the meters But there's 40 of them the Emperor during

1:38:08

the time of Jesus, you know how many scholars wrote

1:38:10

about him? eight That's

1:38:13

freaking crazy. Like they they must have

1:38:15

been something so powerful about this guy

1:38:18

that everybody you like non Christian

1:38:20

historians were writing about him, you know in his

1:38:22

travels and everything in the movement that he was

1:38:24

doing It's like it's crazy. How do you how

1:38:27

do you if it was a now date?

1:38:30

Thing in court be slam dunk Jesus

1:38:32

lived and died on the cross There'd be no way to

1:38:34

debunk it or nothing like that, you know, and the proof

1:38:36

is all there You just got to like want to look

1:38:38

for it Anybody

1:38:41

who wants to search for God will find God

1:38:43

Yeah if you don't know who God is

1:38:45

is because you don't want to see God and That's

1:38:48

a hard pill to swallow because a lot of atheists or a lot

1:38:50

of other people be like how dare you say that? All

1:38:52

right, but it's like I can't hide you from

1:38:54

the truth and the truth is you didn't welcome

1:38:56

him He's a gentleman. He'll enter your life when

1:38:58

you welcome him into your life That's

1:39:01

why he says the eyes that want to see and

1:39:03

the ears that want to hear because

1:39:05

you get a bias in ears all day All

1:39:07

day, but you don't want to you don't want to listen to him And

1:39:10

it's crazy because like there what the reason why you're

1:39:12

passionate and you told that man I don't want you

1:39:14

coming to my church and donating is

1:39:17

because a real Christian man who goes out and

1:39:19

tries to Convert is

1:39:22

because it's kind of like I This

1:39:24

how I could put it my whole life

1:39:26

was crazy terrible without Jesus crazy

1:39:29

terrible My problems were so heightened my

1:39:31

like just everything was gross and dark

1:39:34

And then when I find Jesus everything gets

1:39:37

healed and everything is blossoming and everything is

1:39:39

endless and so fruitful and I have an

1:39:42

Undeniable endless supply of it. Why

1:39:44

would I not run and shake my neighbors and be like brother?

1:39:47

Not only can we eat off this plate, but it's

1:39:49

like eight planets worth. It's like it's miracle water You

1:39:51

got a drink you got a drink it like why

1:39:53

wouldn't you if you if you could cure a man

1:39:55

from his sickness? I think

1:39:57

it would be more evil to look at a man who's going through

1:40:00

and just be like, all right,

1:40:02

that's his choice. But it's like, bro, the reason I

1:40:04

talk about Jesus is because I'm absolutely, one, head over

1:40:06

heels for him. I love him. But two, it's like,

1:40:09

I can't give you anything that's gonna heal you,

1:40:12

but I could give you someone that could heal

1:40:14

you, and that someone is Jesus

1:40:16

Christ. Amen. I

1:40:19

feel like we should end it here. I feel like this is

1:40:22

a perfect knockout, bro. Great message,

1:40:24

brother. I really appreciate your

1:40:26

time. I appreciate your people. Thank you

1:40:28

so much for coming. Dude,

1:40:31

I would love to run another episode of this. Dude,

1:40:34

having the bishop here will be such

1:40:37

a fun podcast. And it

1:40:39

would be so left field. People are like, what?

1:40:41

Who are you, Masvidal, George Janko, and the bishop?

1:40:45

Sign me up. Thanks for watching, guys. Make

1:40:47

sure you like and subscribe, and I will see you

1:40:49

guys next week.

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