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Getting into Nate Diaz, how do you see the
0:02
outcome of that fight? How old are the audience
0:04
watching? They're old enough. I'm gonna kill this motherfucker,
0:06
dad. I swear to you, bro. Max Holloway, Justin
0:08
Gagee, you couldn't hear anything the last 15 seconds,
0:10
because they were killing each other. If you were
0:12
on that card, who would your wish opponent? Gagee,
0:14
bro, like the buses face wide open. The only
0:16
times that it's happened outside of gym scenarios, I
0:18
really felt it was me or you. And bro,
0:20
it's not gonna be me. I wanna know why
0:23
you have not gotten into the ring with Conor.
0:25
Kobe's a bitch, actually. That beef is real real.
0:27
He actually tried to sue me for like a
0:29
year. But guess what? Brain
0:31
injury. Motherfucker, you fucker. I touch your ass,
0:33
dog. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Bitch.
0:36
I'm just playing, I don't fight, I do the
0:38
praying. I only go the way, I must
0:40
stay out waiting. There's not often I sit down with somebody
0:42
and they say something that makes me think. Bro, this was
0:44
great. I love you, dad. I love you. Listen, will you
0:46
give me something to think about? I'm my own damn way.
0:48
I had a lot of fun on this interview. Let's
0:52
go, bro, back in Vegas. Hello, hello,
0:54
Jorge. What's up? Dude.
0:57
Hi, hi. Hey, you were not a part of the
0:59
last episode. No, I'm kind of like third wheeling, no?
1:01
Oh, let's go. Welcome back to
1:03
the George Janko show. It has been a
1:05
minute. And how I want to introduce
1:07
you is how we first met, dude,
1:10
because, bro, that was funny.
1:12
I don't even know if you remember, but. Of course we do. Okay,
1:14
okay, I just want to make sure. I just want to make sure.
1:16
But I got a little bit of CT, but not
1:18
that much. Yeah. I
1:21
was so nervous, bro, because I'm
1:23
a huge fan. I'm running this podcast
1:25
by myself at the time. I'm
1:27
like, this is a big deal. I'm here at this
1:29
hotel. We made such a big deal about it. I
1:31
come out here, I'm having bubble guts. I'm like, no,
1:33
I got this shit. I'm gonna be in control. I'm
1:36
gonna do a good job. And you pull
1:38
up and you were just so sweet and nice. All
1:41
your friends again are just so sweet and nice. And
1:43
it was just so welcoming that I was like, all
1:45
right, cool, I feel relaxed. And
1:47
then I was like, if you want to
1:49
go smoke, and then you
1:51
could come back. I was kind of gesturing it. You could go
1:53
smoke and then you could come back and you're like, you
1:56
roll with us. And I've seen you knock
1:58
people out, so I don't want to say no to you. I was
2:00
like, okay, yeah. And I go out
2:02
and keep it up with you, bro. I'm not
2:04
gonna lie, dawg, if you go watch the first
2:06
like five minutes of the podcast, I had no
2:08
idea where else. I had absolutely, and it's his
2:10
fault. It's his fault, the guy hiding behind Kevin.
2:13
It's a combo, but we do that to everybody that
2:15
takes the walk with us. But you won't watch this
2:17
plank, let's go. If you take the walk, you're gonna
2:20
have to. I took the walk and then took a
2:22
flight back. I didn't even, I don't even know how
2:24
that happened. I don't know how you did a podcast
2:26
like that. Dawg, I started freestyling
2:28
out. I was like, how?
2:31
Eventually come back to earth with a lot of
2:33
different clarity and visions and questions and all that,
2:36
but eventually you're back now. And
2:38
then afterwards, this- Yeah, we had
2:40
you tore up, I remember. Afterwards was even better
2:42
because like we went out and then we went back for
2:45
a second round of smoke. But this time I was like
2:47
a little bit more comfortable because we just got done talking,
2:49
we hung out. And then we did
2:51
this. This is how I knew you were a
2:53
real one, bro. The conversation was awesome. Your people
2:56
are awesome. That's a good identification of who the
2:58
person is, is who they hang out with. Very
3:01
welcoming, very cool. And we go
3:03
outside and this is how I knew you were an
3:05
actual real one. We were playing the trash game. Remember
3:07
we were throwing it, but we got competitive with it.
3:09
For like 10 minutes we were like, all right, if you do
3:11
it from here, you're okay. And I'm the
3:14
worst at that part, ain't you? Loser
3:16
has to do pushups. And so I
3:18
won. And I'm not gonna fucking tell
3:20
the guy that can knock out every single guy here.
3:22
Hey buddy, pay up. Get out, do some pushups.
3:24
Bro, no one asked you. You just got done and
3:27
you just, boom, every time. So you pay your, dude,
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that's a real man right there, bro. Always, come
3:31
on. How you been, bro? Cool, my brother, good. That's
3:33
a good opening, man. Yeah. Let's
3:35
go. Yeah, always pay my
3:37
pushup, that sit up, that's like, I
3:40
don't know, I'm sure it goes on every
3:42
sport, but mainly like in combat, it's
3:44
like, oh, let's bet on this fight, oh, let's
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bet pushups, let's bet squats. And they get crazy.
3:48
Who runs a mile faster? Okay, 100 pushups to
3:51
the loser, boom, 50 squats, boom. This is how
3:53
you're getting shredded for your next fight? This
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is a small part of it, you know. You look great, bro.
3:57
Thank you, brother. You look really good. I've been in Vegas since.
4:00
January now. Where do you stay when
4:02
you just live and not train? I don't
4:05
stay far off the strip, I'm gonna be like
4:07
15-20 minutes from the strip. So you're permanently in...
4:09
Yeah, I've been here since January just doing it
4:11
full-time here and shit
4:14
the fight kept getting pushed back it was
4:16
gonna be April then it was gonna be
4:18
May and it was gonna be June and
4:20
now it's finally July 6th and it's official
4:22
there's a referees whistle so it's not getting moved. Are
4:25
you scared of him running away? And who we're talking
4:27
about is Nate Diaz. Yeah. This is this is your
4:29
guys a second fight. Yeah our second
4:31
fight, correct. The first one in boxing. I know
4:34
but like the first one it was kind
4:36
of a boxing match. And by the
4:38
way can I ask you something? Do you not feel punches bro?
4:41
You know it's a it's a good question.
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I would say you do but
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not how you think because you since you haven't
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felt it enough times or been in there you
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don't know it's not like every single punch stings
4:52
you know but the ones that do hurt you're
4:54
like feel it or your legs will give but
4:56
it doesn't mean like oh I'm hurt it's like
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oh shit okay wake up hands up you know
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how'd I get hit you know it's more like
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that and then if you don't feel it cuz
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it just fucking rocks your soul and it's bad
5:06
like you just they shut off the lights go
5:08
like this no not even it's like when they
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shut the lights off on you just turn them
5:13
back on and you're like this that's
5:15
a bad one. Because most
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of the time your adrenaline is pumping so you're
5:19
just focused on okay wait. And there's conditioning
5:21
too but if if like in front of
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TV you look like a baby calf being
5:26
born that's really bad. You're
5:29
doing all that man they got you you know. What
5:32
are you gonna say? Something that I've always wondered and
5:34
this might be a stupid question but
5:37
you know when you're like you're in it right you're like
5:39
you're pounding him down I'm gonna sound really stupid but you're
5:42
pounding him down you're in the moment you know what I
5:44
mean you're trying to get blood and I don't know if
5:46
your emotions are wrapped in it but I feel like you
5:48
know you're somebody who comes from real street fighting so I'm
5:50
sure you kind of have some of your emotions a little
5:52
bit wrapped up and then the bell rings and you have
5:54
to stop everything. Yeah. How does that
5:56
feel like how do you separate yourself to stop?
5:58
That is a great question. Actually, the more
6:00
simple answer to that is just like
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rinse and repeat. We're training this every
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freaking day, every hour of the day.
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It's constant, it's constant until it becomes
6:09
like second nature. The bell rings. OK,
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I disengage. If I keep going, I
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want to get in trouble and I want to get
6:16
a point taken away from me. I want to get
6:18
disqualified. And more than anything, I've always felt I don't
6:20
got to cheat nobody and beat nobody. So I've never
6:22
had as much as a point taken away from me
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in my 50 something pro fights. So I've never I've
6:27
never had like a foul or like a double foul
6:29
even. You know, so my record is clean
6:31
there. And that's just something that's like a mental
6:33
note. A lot of people do that because they're
6:35
kind of quitters already. They're getting beat up, they're
6:37
getting frustrated. They want a cheap shot when that
6:39
bell rings because we all it's just standard procedure.
6:42
We all are going to stop when that bell
6:44
rings. Maybe sometimes the crowds are so, so loud
6:46
that, you know, we can't hear the bell, but
6:48
the referee is on it and they'll separate, you
6:50
know, he'll do his job and jump in there,
6:52
you know, because sometimes you might not hear the
6:54
bell. Like you're yeah, you got
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hit with your ears ringing. Max
6:59
Holloway and that's another good one. If
7:01
your ears ring and you won't you won't be able to hear
7:03
anything. Max Holloway and Justin
7:05
Gagee, you couldn't hear anything the last like 15
7:07
seconds because it was just brawling. They were killing
7:09
each other. I was there live. It's like you
7:12
couldn't hear anything. So they would they want to
7:14
heard the bell. You know, how did that feel
7:16
being there in that moment? Amazing, man. It that
7:18
whole card was just one of the best cards
7:20
I've ever seen in my life in
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in person. And I've been to every fucking one.
7:24
If you were on that card, who would your
7:27
wish opponent be? Maybe
7:29
Gagee, bro, like the buses face wide open, you know,
7:31
similar to how Max did it. Fair
7:34
enough. You know, just
7:36
because I got so much admiration, I think he's
7:38
one of the best strikers to ever fight in
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MMA. It's Pirera. So I would love to fight
7:42
him, but more out of like I'm a fan
7:44
of this guy. This guy is truly a stand
7:47
up machine. He's just fucking like
7:49
the Terminator with the stand up man. So a guy like
7:52
that to face, if I was like that way class, I
7:54
would love to fucking throw down with an animal like that,
7:56
you know. Do you
7:58
think they give you your flowers on your striking? because
8:01
I feel like they just didn't give you enough credit for your
8:03
striking. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, you know.
8:05
Sometimes they break the fights down and they shoot the
8:07
little things and make like a good striker, a good
8:09
striker, you know. It's not just being fast or strong.
8:12
It's like the angles, the fakes, the timing, you know.
8:14
I really don't care. I didn't do it for
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them. I did it for like me and my coaches and family, my
8:18
kids, you know. If the fans give it to
8:21
me, awesome. If they're not, you know, I mean the records give
8:23
it to me so I can't, you know. I
8:25
love that. I can't be mad at them.
8:27
I love that. Do you, getting into this
8:29
Nate Diaz fight, what do you feel like
8:31
when you're in this training camp? What do
8:33
you feel the differences between when you were
8:35
first training for him versus like right now?
8:38
Oh, completely different on so many levels, you
8:40
know. Could you explain? An MMA was, it's
8:42
a complete different grind, you know. Yes, you're
8:44
punching, but that's like, I
8:46
don't know, 25 to 30 percent of
8:48
the game now. Yeah, you can knock somebody out. You cut
8:50
them wide open. You can drop them. You could, you know,
8:53
push a guy off. You could do a lot of
8:55
things with the boxing, but it's just a percentage of
8:57
the MMA, you know. So in MMA, it's like, you
9:00
know, a Monday morning practice
9:02
would be I'd go run first, anywhere
9:05
from like two to three miles. Then
9:07
go to the wrestling practice. And after the
9:09
wrestling practice, go home chill. Do
9:12
pads at night after that. Then Tuesday morning will
9:14
be like sparring, hard sparring, you know. And
9:16
then after that, I might run or I might
9:18
do conditioning right after like a small circuit. Then
9:20
rest at night. Then at night, either like
9:23
wrestling techniques or like wrestling techniques with some pad
9:25
and it's ever evolving because we've got
9:27
to cover a lot of ground. You got to do
9:29
jiu-jitsu as well. So we'll have maybe Wednesday night was
9:31
just two hours of working the floor and, you know,
9:33
maybe. Buddy's
9:35
really good at guillotine, so I'm just spending one
9:37
hour defending guillotines, you know. And then after that,
9:40
I still got to do my strength and conditioning.
9:42
And boxing is completely different. It's like we
9:44
run every day and
9:47
they spar a lot and a lot of bag work
9:49
and a lot of technique. But there's no wrestling involved.
9:51
Obviously, no jiu-jitsu, no kicking or nothing. So the grind
9:53
is way different, you know. Honestly,
10:01
I'm not patient The
10:03
devil getting frustrated The
10:06
weed is making me lazy A
10:09
generation full of babies Honestly,
10:11
I can't take it I
10:14
love that. How
10:16
do you see the outcome of that fight? Shh.
10:21
How old are the audience watching? They're
10:24
old enough. I'm gonna kill
10:27
this motherfucker, dad, bro. Is there a
10:29
real beef in there that you're like
10:31
a... Me, besides this one
10:33
idiot in real life that I can't stand
10:35
I can't mention his name because FBI will come raid us
10:38
and shit, and they'll have guns in your face and
10:40
be like, oh, why is this guy saying that? Yeah,
10:42
they're fucking... they're going nuts on me. So I can't
10:44
say this one bitch name, you know, but... Could you
10:46
say it to me and I'll bleep it out? No,
10:49
I'll say it anyway. Oh, if you don't know, it's Kobe's bitch ass. I'm gonna
10:51
get into that, bro. I'm gonna get into that. That
10:53
is like... that is the highest I might live to talk
10:55
about. Other than him, I don't got problems with... That
10:59
beef is real real. With nobody, you know, I don't...
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the name shit is not personal. I want to bust
11:03
his face wide open for some stupid comments. He said,
11:05
hey, we're gonna fight, and I'm gonna get paid, and
11:07
the better I do by executing you, the more money
11:09
I get in my next fight. So I definitely want
11:11
to rip his head off, you know? Why
11:13
aren't you doing it in your bare knuckle thing?
11:16
I personally couldn't do bare knuckle, you know, because of
11:18
my hands. I did it a lot when I was
11:20
young. I abused it a lot, and then throughout my
11:22
pro career, I already went in there with, like, injuries
11:24
from, like, the backyard, and I just fought on three. And
11:27
I just fought on through them for, like, 20 years,
11:29
you know? So if I did a bare
11:31
knuckle fight, it's like that one, and I
11:33
better get paid a lot of money. You're
11:35
just gonna... So are
11:38
you positioning yourself to take
11:40
Nate, crumble him up, throw him in
11:42
the trash can, and then are you
11:44
looking at a star fight? Like,
11:46
for example, if the
11:48
stars align, Jake beats Mike Tyson, are
11:51
you trying to fight a Jake Paul type of character,
11:53
or are you trying to go and
11:55
fight... Is there anybody else in your lineup? You
11:58
know, shit. Logan fights
12:00
way more attractive to me than Jake fights always
12:02
been you know Logan Paul.
12:04
Yeah, I think he retired he retired from boxing
12:07
I mean, I don't know if it was a joke
12:09
his fight with Mayweather was was good man He had
12:12
him he heard him two different times in the fight,
12:14
you know, and he thought you know
12:16
I thought Floyd won, but it was he had some
12:18
moments in there Logan, you know And he's an athlete
12:20
and he comes to like fighting bra, you know, I
12:23
kind of like that But are you sidestepping him just to
12:25
like flex on Jake to be like I'm not gonna fight
12:27
you I'm gonna fight your older brother to talk to talk
12:29
about Jake the UFC. I'm still on the contract with him
12:31
So they let me out for three fights, but
12:33
you're still you're still yeah Yeah, I'm still
12:35
with the UFC still under heavy-duty contract Like
12:37
you don't know nobody you get me out
12:40
of this contract type contract, right? And
12:42
they allowed me to go three fights in
12:44
boxing and fight for fan meal But
12:47
one of the conditions was I can't fight Jake's ass because
12:49
I don't like his ass, you know Yeah,
12:51
cuz Jake's pulled a lot of stunts on Dana
12:54
White on Hunter Campbell. He's talked about you see
12:56
pay this Came after the UFC.
12:58
Yeah, you know, so they're like we're gonna let one
13:00
of our top dogs go and let you make money
13:04
How is your relationship Dana my relationship with
13:06
Dana is great and and when hunter it's
13:08
great, you know, um, I Mean
13:10
I've been a dog for that company since
13:13
I joined in from short notice fights to
13:15
short notice fights to fighting anybody Anytime anyplace
13:17
anywhere in the world, so it's
13:20
pretty good, you know, and I made him a ton
13:22
of money in the process Yeah, yeah. I want to
13:24
go back into this Colby thing because this is I
13:26
can't believe I never even asked about it The first
13:28
time we had a conversation. I mean, it ain't really
13:31
much to talk about he's an idiot, you know, bro
13:33
but let's just backtrack dude because there's a lot of
13:37
Speaking of that bitch, he's just ducked to fight right
13:39
now. I've never ducked to fight my fucking career in
13:41
this guy duck. I forget that. Um Ian
13:45
Gary Fuck
13:48
you boys Already
13:50
like set and he pulled out he
13:52
didn't even want to sign the contract and
13:54
he's talking about fake fighters in tonight He's always
13:56
been the fakest motherfucker. I hope I don't get
13:59
rained for this But the
14:01
I poke and the
14:04
other shit that he pulled when you guys are fighting, do you
14:06
think he purposely did that? Oh, the I poke 100 percent. And
14:09
it was a good fucking I poke because I was the
14:11
fight. I thought I was fucking seeing double vision. It's just
14:13
like, you know, Herb Dean and me have
14:15
never fucking got in the long. But and I think he's also
14:17
like one of the worst referees that's ever existed. Like, he has
14:19
too many mistakes at a high level. Great
14:21
person like outside of that. I think he's a great
14:24
person outside of refereeing. But in refereeing, I've
14:26
just it's just been like me that he's always had
14:28
these like weird calls. But that was a seriously good
14:30
I poke. Like, I should have had a little bit
14:32
of time to recoup, not fucking let this guy hug
14:34
his arms after he just I poked and then went
14:36
for a bear hug, you know. But whatever is a
14:38
sport shit happens, you know. OK, let's
14:40
backtrack when you guys first met because
14:42
that unless you don't want to get into it. Yeah, I'm
14:45
OK. Cool. So what's the
14:47
deal, bro? You helped this guy out. And then he
14:49
tries to climb on top of your success. He
14:52
came over to American top team. I was already part
14:54
of the gym. He came over in a recruiting trip.
14:56
They brought a bunch of wrestlers and different guys from
14:58
different gyms. And he was doing like a program that
15:00
you come stay with us, live with
15:02
us. We'll take care of you if you make it. I don't know. We had
15:05
a good amount of people applying. He was
15:07
one of them. He wrestled for
15:09
Oregon and did all right. You know, so he
15:11
came over, he joined the program and we were
15:13
training same time. And back then
15:15
I was playing like a lot of poker. And this
15:17
motherfuckers, I got the January, you know, he's at the
15:20
casino to this day. Every day, he's actually right there
15:22
right now. I wish I wish. No, no, he is. I
15:24
was just with him. I wish. He
15:27
just gets up and oh my God. I
15:29
wish. I
15:32
just look back like that. Then boys are going
15:34
to go. Oh, I
15:36
wish. No, but yeah,
15:38
you know, and we were hanging out.
15:40
We were fucking cool with each
15:42
other. And he was living with his chick at
15:44
the time. And his chick kicked his ass out of the crib
15:46
so he didn't have no one. He had his hand broken. So
15:49
we got along pretty well. And I had this apartment
15:51
that was right by the by
15:54
the gym. So I was like, bro, you come crash on my
15:56
couch a couple of months, you know, get your shit right, get
15:58
your hand right, get a couple scraps and then fucking. Pay
16:00
me back, you know? Because at the time I was a
16:02
pro fighter, I already had like 20 something fights, but there's
16:04
not a lot of money in fighting back then. I'm talking
16:07
about like no sponsors and nobody giving you shit, bro. You
16:09
had to really work for that. So I was like, bro,
16:11
give me a hundred, $200 for all this food that you
16:13
eating, because I used to have like a meal prep company,
16:15
you know, and this and that. And that's how it should
16:17
have really been known. This motherfucking shit, dog. Like I'm here
16:19
helping him out, winning me a kick and nothing back then.
16:21
So anyways, we're cool
16:23
now, I introduced him as well to my coach that
16:25
I've been with since basically a fucking
16:27
kid, you know? And my coach and him
16:29
make a deal, they go, whatever you
16:31
make, if it's $100, $100,000, I want 5%. That's
16:35
all I want. And I shook that deal
16:37
with my coach until this day we have that deal and I've
16:39
never broken that deal with him. And he's the guy that he
16:42
oversees, he's a little older, his name is Paulino. In
16:44
my fight now for the boxing match, he's been like
16:46
in all my MMA fights, you know? Just a handshake
16:48
agreement? Just a handshake agreement. And it went from me
16:50
paying him like $50 a fight to
16:52
hundreds of thousands of dollars per every time I fight,
16:55
you know? And it's still on a handshake deal and
16:57
it's like, boom, we get it done, you know? So
17:00
this motherfucker finally makes money, which he's
17:02
never paid even the 5%, he's like, oh, on the next
17:04
one, oh, on the next one. He finally fights for the
17:06
title, makes him decent money, and guess what he does? Deuces
17:09
my coach training the whole time, leading up
17:11
from amateur to that world
17:13
title. My initial feeling was
17:16
like, I know this dude lives, I know
17:18
he trained. He was on my couch, I
17:20
know where he lives. Yeah, I'm gonna go
17:23
clean his clock. Just straight up, like, you wanna
17:25
do some more shit? Was this before your guys' match?
17:27
Or after? This is before, way
17:29
before the match. And my coach is like, don't
17:31
do it, don't do it. Don't
17:33
do that, that's not what you wanna do. That's not what you wanna
17:36
do. We'll get him back when we fight,
17:38
this and that. Don't do it, don't do it. It's a
17:40
good coach. I'm all right, so I didn't do it, I
17:42
didn't do nothing, you know, and shit,
17:45
whatever. I just wasn't cool with him. I
17:47
see him at the gym, be like, don't talk to me, and he'd be like,
17:49
oh, what's the deal? I'm like, nah, you know what the deal is, bro. You're
17:51
fucking, you're a shade ball, bro. He's like, bro,
17:53
you know, it's a problem with translation and I speak
17:55
English, you only speak Spanish. Like, no, my coach understands
17:57
you, and I've already translated for you guys on the
17:59
phone. It's 5% or whatever you made, you didn't
18:01
wanna pay that shit like a little bitch. Which has
18:03
had problems with all his coaches. He got kicked out
18:06
of America. Top team, this is just not me. This
18:08
is like a long, John Jones hates his ass. 5%
18:10
is nothing compared to what he's doing for him. Tyrone
18:12
Woodley hates his ass. Like everybody he's had a close
18:14
encounter with, they can't stand this motherfucker. And Tyrone Woodley
18:16
was telling me, and John Jones was telling me at
18:18
the time, watch out for this motherfucker. He's not who
18:20
he is, who he acts like. Watch out
18:22
for this motherfucker. I'm like, I'm just letting him crash
18:24
in my couch, no biggie, right? Wrong as
18:26
fuck. And then he does that to
18:28
my coach. We don't kick it no more. And then
18:30
I was at 155, I came up the 170. I
18:33
started getting a lot of press. Everybody starts talking about
18:35
me. Instead of just being like, all right, we'll fight.
18:37
Cause damn, not only did I hook you up, but
18:39
at some point we were cool. We were good friends.
18:42
We don't have to talk about each other's kids, which
18:44
he doesn't have, but I do. We don't have to
18:46
talk about each other's family, mom,
18:48
dad, and all these things to sell a pay-per-view. To sell
18:50
like a dollar, you know? So, and if you would do
18:52
that, I'm the type of motherfucker, I'm like, well then we
18:55
were never cool, you know? If you would do that for
18:57
a dollar bill, and you have a dollar amount, oh, me
18:59
talking shit will generate us 300
19:01
more thousand pay-per-views. Well then fuck you, you're never
19:03
my brother. You're never my friend. Everything about you
19:05
is fucking fake as fuck, you know? So
19:08
yeah, you know, fucking went to war.
19:10
Do you think it hurt you
19:12
more? Because I've only hung out with you twice.
19:15
And from what I got, you put
19:17
the people you love above yourself. I
19:19
could tell by the way you think the people that helped
19:21
you from the beginning, the people that we would never even
19:23
know who they are, but you make sure you give them
19:26
their flowers and your credit. I could tell by your boys
19:28
that you guys are all very, very loyal and respect each
19:30
other. Was it the fact that this dude has no respect
19:32
that angered you the most? Or is the fact that he
19:34
just came after your family? When he
19:36
was- Combo, man. Shit, you don't have a spine.
19:38
You're fucking spineless, you know what I'm saying? So
19:40
you were literally sleeping on my couch because your
19:42
hand was broken, your girl kicked out, you stayed
19:44
on my couch for like eight months. Like that,
19:46
to me, if you did that for me, it
19:48
doesn't matter what type of beef the me and
19:50
you have, we'll settle to me and you, the
19:52
whole world doesn't have to know. It's just between
19:54
me and you, bro. We got
19:56
problems because some shit happens. I always speak
19:58
well of you just because you did that.
20:00
for me in my life, I'm not gonna
20:03
fucking fabricate shit too. Because
20:05
if you ask him, he's like, well,
20:07
I just went at him because whatever. He doesn't
20:09
even have an explanation for it. And
20:11
I let him come first. He started saying shit online,
20:13
then I caught him at the gym and the
20:16
coach had separated us immediately. And I was like,
20:18
well, I'm going to catch Ross. And then
20:21
the owner of American Tops, he had a stern talk,
20:23
Dan Lambert with me. He's like, man, if you catch
20:25
him in here, bro, I got to let you go.
20:27
I was like, damn, I've
20:29
been here fucking 16 years, man. You're going to let
20:32
me go. He's like, because if you do that, it's
20:34
going to set off a bad example. You are one
20:37
of the lead guys. You're one of the pillars of American top
20:39
team. People look up to you. I've
20:41
already gotten a lot with a
20:43
lot of wild shit over there. So I would send
20:45
them messages. I would get on live, be
20:47
like, hey, I'm at the Publix where you like to go eat sushi
20:49
at him over here. And it never
20:51
happened like that. And then eventually, we
20:54
both kind of got kicked out of the gym. And
20:57
I got kicked out because they put
20:59
like this ultimatum, like, man, you can't say
21:02
no more. Nobody can say nothing to each other online
21:05
unless they're going to fight each other and they have a contract. And
21:08
I was like, well, this motherfucker has been talking shit about me for months
21:10
and I haven't even said nothing because I'm trying to catch him at the
21:12
gym. And now they're going to put that, I can't even say nothing. So
21:15
when I went online and popped off and they're like, you got
21:17
to go master it also. They kicked me out for a month
21:19
and then they brought my ass back. Kobe,
21:22
they never brought his ass back. They should get the fuck
21:24
out of here, piece of shit. They just wanted to show
21:26
me like, don't fuck around, man. But
21:28
I'm full American top team always, bro. Hypothetically
21:31
and slash allegedly,
21:35
you saw this guy after the fight. How did this whole
21:37
thing happen? Allegedly. Did you get a
21:39
call? Well, what's not allegedly is that this
21:41
motherfucker went on a podcast. I don't know
21:43
how we are right now and
21:45
dropped the video on the same day, like
21:48
three hours before hypothetically
21:51
in allegedly somebody looked
21:53
like me, same ethnicity as me,
21:55
enhanced speed as me was
21:57
there. That's allegedly. I
22:00
would beat the case and we could say whatever the fuck we want.
22:03
I already beat that shit. I beat
22:05
it with a stick. But
22:07
yeah, it's fucking, you know, he made a podcast saying,
22:09
if I see him in the streets of Miami, you're
22:11
dead. I'll kill you. He said that?
22:13
Yeah, it's all on recorded video on the podcast. But
22:15
this is after he was avoiding you and you were telling him,
22:17
come meet up with me and he wasn't? No,
22:19
no, never, never, never. I would go, hey, that place you
22:22
like to eat sushi at, I'd go on my live on
22:24
Instagram, pull it up. I'd send the
22:26
messages where I was at. He never wanted to do
22:28
it because I always wanted to do it man to
22:30
man. Just like, let's meet right here in the back
22:32
of this fucking laundry mat and that's it.
22:34
Nobody needs to be there and let's just fucking go. If one
22:36
of us is out bad enough, then the other one just pulls
22:38
back. I put your ass to sleep after
22:40
I put you to see Bob back up and vice versa.
22:43
Is he from that background or not? No, hell no. He's
22:45
a fucking college wrestler who just wants to hold your leg
22:47
as hard as he can and not breathe
22:50
and just be like fucking hugging you and hugging you.
22:53
But when it comes to throwing, and he could have
22:55
done whatever he wanted because I'm throwing these knees, elbows,
22:57
hug all you want. It's a fair fight.
23:00
But that never happened. So whatever. This
23:02
is after the fight. That's crazy that he
23:05
mounts off like that, bro. No, he gets on this
23:07
podcast. He says he's going to kill me. If he
23:09
sees me in Miami, the date that I supposedly did
23:11
this, allegedly, is the same date he went on the
23:13
podcast and said he's going to kill me. It
23:15
just so happens I
23:18
wanted to get a slice of pizza where this dude
23:20
was at. And
23:22
I was like, holy smokes, I'm dead meat, bro.
23:24
This guy's right there. He's going to kill me
23:26
literally. So
23:29
you're trying to protect yourself. I'm trying to protect myself. You just
23:31
want to get a slice of pizza. Allegedly.
23:34
Right. Now, this motherfucker was first
23:36
saying that I jumped in with people wrong because the
23:38
video and the case getting dropped. If I would have
23:40
jumped him, I would have done time in jail. If
23:42
like me and you just would have touched him, that's
23:44
time in jail. Or I would have had to pay
23:46
crazy money to this motherfucker. None of
23:48
that happened. The way they saw it is, two
23:51
pro fighters fighting each other. This guy right here just
23:53
said you're going to kill this guy if you see
23:55
him in the streets of Miami in a fucking podcast.
23:57
We have a fucking conviction. from
24:00
you, you fucking self-sabotaging your ass. How you gonna
24:02
say this?" And then whatever happens, happens. And
24:04
he said it dead ass as serious as he could be,
24:07
not in like, you know, character
24:10
or whatever he wants to say. I
24:12
was like, well, here I am, brother, you know? Damn,
24:15
that's so easy. And some say he ain't never been
24:17
the same since. He actually tried to sue me for
24:19
like a year, for
24:21
guess what, a brain injury. Motherfucker, you're
24:23
retarded for I touch your ass, star.
24:25
Shut the fuck, shut the fuck up,
24:27
bitch. Well, I'm sorry that somebody that you led
24:29
into your life. I'm sorry about all my foul languages. I
24:31
get excited when I'm talking about. By the way, I just
24:33
want to let you guys know that. The first thing he
24:36
said to me, he goes, I'm really proud of you for
24:38
speaking about the word. My man's a fellow Christian right here.
24:40
Die hard, bro. I know I should watch
24:42
my language, but I get excited with this dude. This
24:45
idiot would just clock him, but I definitely have faith
24:47
in Christ. And you know, the way, the things that
24:49
I say a lot of times might not lead people
24:51
to believe that, but all my faith is in God.
24:53
It's the actions that I'm worried about my friend. They're
24:55
all right, they're getting better. For
24:58
working man towards Christ, every day a
25:00
little better as I go towards the
25:02
kingdom. Amen. What do you say? No,
25:05
I'm just saying that I'm sorry that somebody you led
25:07
into your life, your personal life around your kids, around
25:09
your family, you know, like betrayed you because he doesn't
25:11
have any integrity in it. Yeah, and that's what
25:13
hurt. This dude seen my dad,
25:15
my mom, my kids, you know, and stuff. It
25:17
wasn't like my family was living there, but I
25:19
had this apartment next to the gym in Coconut
25:21
Creek and my house was an hour away in
25:24
Miami. But every once in a while, sometimes my
25:26
family will come, they cross paths and stuff and
25:28
meet them. And it's like, if
25:31
you had never met them, it's like you can't
25:33
really hurt my feelings, you know? Like people online
25:35
talking about my family members or something, you know,
25:37
I mean, you go through it all the time.
25:39
You know, it's like, if you take everybody seriously,
25:41
you'll end up in a fucking loony bin, you
25:43
know? So. You know, it hurts when, I
25:45
just had to go through this, when people
25:48
misinterpret your character. Okay, yeah, yeah. That
25:50
shit hurts because you work so hard
25:52
to have like a certain type of
25:55
character, you can't
25:57
take it anymore. You have to just believe in who
25:59
you are. your actions and you just
26:01
have to keep going. Amen, because everybody
26:03
no matter what is going to have a different, slight
26:05
different opinion and this and that. Some
26:08
might love you, some might hate you, you know? And
26:11
if the Bible's right, they're only going to hate us
26:13
the more and more. As you see, it's getting crazy,
26:15
man. It's like being a Christian now is like a
26:17
felon, bro. It's like worse. I'm the new bad boy
26:19
around here, bro. Yeah, man. It's like if you're a
26:21
Christian now, it's a problem, man. I mean, we see
26:23
it all across the schools everywhere. Even
26:25
in society now, it's like, oh, Jesus
26:27
freaked. Just because you say like a prayer before you eat
26:29
or something. I'll show you Jesus.
26:32
You see the bill they're trying to pass in Canada? No.
26:35
Trying to pass a bill in Canada where you can't,
26:37
you know, outwardly worship or anything
26:39
like that. And not just Christians, but
26:41
they're saying for everybody. And
26:44
I just can't believe we're even at a point
26:46
right now where we're in a place you can't
26:48
practice your religion freely and that's becoming an issue.
26:50
And it's just disgusting. I'm
26:52
only going to say this because I
26:55
saw this happen in other countries
26:57
and I lived it through my parents and
27:00
this is what communism looks like in Canada.
27:02
It's been headed in that fast track for
27:04
a long time. They're going to end up
27:06
communist. They know the communists
27:08
know that one of the first things you got to
27:10
do besides taking their guns away, the next thing you
27:12
got to do is take their God away, take their
27:14
religion away. So you believe in the
27:16
government because the government is going to give you the cheese and
27:18
the bread and now you need to go to church because anyways,
27:20
we banned that. It's for like, as
27:22
I'm saying, you're going to pretty soon in this country, if you're
27:24
a Christian, you're a fucking father, bro. They're
27:28
ready to Catholics, they send the
27:30
FBI to intimidate them. Like all
27:32
there's massive reports from here to
27:34
the freaking roof of parents going
27:36
to PTA meetings,
27:38
right? And I'm a parent so I know a
27:40
little bit about this. You know, like, well, why
27:42
are you teaching my five year old about
27:45
sex? And if there's
27:47
how many genders and this and that, whatever your opinion
27:49
is, he should hear when he's like 14 and 15.
27:52
And now when he's five, six years old, if you went and did
27:54
that, you're one of those break parents to put your hand up. They
27:56
went like this. Send you
27:58
off. FBI winning
28:01
your house next day. No way.
28:03
Yeah. This is firmly documented This
28:06
is all over the place and like 50,000 cases This
28:09
is the FBI going to Catholic and Christian parents
28:11
and like hey Why are you showing up to
28:13
these PTA meetings causing trouble in the FBI? What
28:15
type of intimidation tactic is that? They're not even supposed
28:17
to be used for civilians now These people didn't get
28:19
charges or anything but that they showed up to
28:21
the house and tried to fix them out I
28:24
let you know everything he says in the Bible is 100% true. Amen You
28:28
know, I have great faith though, and
28:30
I'll tell you what I have faith in Growing
28:33
up like 10 years ago. Nobody talked
28:35
about the Bible They knew
28:37
about it and they could talk about it They
28:39
never talked about it But these young kids that
28:42
are running up to me and like reciting the
28:44
Bible are talking about me talking to Cliff Or
28:46
just us talking about Jesus right now like it's
28:48
motivating kids to step out and be brave about
28:50
their faith have to be There's
28:52
definitely a revival. I think I think there is
28:54
but let's get back into the fight, bro No, that
28:56
wasn't Heineken water Mountain
28:59
spring Just
29:03
super emotional Desert
29:07
heat is fine I'll
29:09
be at the gym now, but you're from Miami
29:11
human. It is human crazy Dars
29:15
are heat man. I'm from Arizona. So
29:17
I'm used to it. Okay. Yeah desert,
29:19
but it's dangerous Yeah, let's sneak up
29:21
on you get really dehydrated quick mountain
29:23
people From the beaches the humidity
29:25
some sweating a lot, but I like a hand
29:28
of this It's like it cooks you from
29:30
the inside out. Yeah, I'm getting used
29:32
to though. Good It was
29:34
just crazy cold not cuz I've been here since January.
29:36
It's bone-dry cool here Like you could feel it in
29:38
your bones and it gets cold Like
29:42
I've been doing ice baths, bro Bro,
29:44
are you do you do ice baths? Bro?
29:46
It? Yeah, look they all
29:48
lit up you guys do ice baths I
29:53
Know bro does here and there
29:55
bro, bro, bro. It changed my
29:57
life doc. It wakes you
29:59
up dude I've never done cocaine, but they
30:01
said it feels like it. He's been obsessed, he's
30:03
doing him twice a day. That's amazing. And how long
30:05
are you going for? So
30:07
I go numb after like two minutes. I
30:10
can sit in there for however long after. You don't want
30:12
to go too, too long either. I think the most I've
30:14
ever got is like six minutes. Oh, that's perfect. Yeah, like
30:16
two six-minute goes is perfect. How cool do you go? Before
30:20
I was going 39 to 41, and
30:24
this doctor that I've been working with, Dr.
30:26
Gary V Brekker. Gary V's
30:29
your doctor? Yeah, guy's amazing. Are you
30:31
serious? I'm totally serious. Gary V's your
30:33
doctor? You probably just have the
30:35
same name. Brekker. Got
30:37
you. I thought you were talking about the guy who
30:39
goes and trades cards and stuff. No, no, no, no.
30:42
He's like, listen, this is what you're gonna do. We're
30:45
going to garage sales right now. Man, this
30:47
guy's like a mate. Look him up, man.
30:49
He's got a crazy podcast. He
30:52
explains a lot. So I started following him through the podcast. I knew all the
30:54
athletes he worked with. I was like, I really want to work with this guy.
30:56
And I finally got a chance to meet with him and work with him. And
30:59
how he was breaking it down was like, especially
31:01
for athletes, you don't need to sit too long when you get
31:03
in there because then maybe you can start messing
31:05
up a little bit of your joints and stuff. You just need to
31:07
have good exposure to it. And it doesn't have to be that cold.
31:10
You know, he told me 49 degrees, 30
31:12
to six minute goes twice a day. Bro,
31:17
I went to 52 and that was
31:19
cold. It dropped down to 42.
31:22
I got in, dog. I felt like somebody was beating
31:24
me up. It hurts so bad. You want me to
31:26
show you a little life hack? Yeah. You
31:28
get them little fucking socks and neoprene socks because the toes
31:30
is what kills me. My feet hurt so much in that
31:33
bitch. Bro, I look like I had a wicked mortise in
31:35
there. I'm just throwing a bang sign. Same
31:37
shit happens to me. That's
31:40
why I got those neoprene
31:42
socks or whatever. Okay, cool.
31:44
I'm learning about this. Do you wear gloves? No,
31:47
I don't wear gloves. Oh, okay. But I don't always put
31:49
my hands in. That's a problem too. I use you to
31:51
get neck level. And a lot of times I have my
31:53
hands on and then I like in and out, in and
31:55
out, in and out. My wrists are messed up. So I
31:58
like to put them in there. Yeah, yeah, that's it. anything
32:00
that's messed up, you put it in there. It does
32:02
so much. Besides the releases, like, another good thing is
32:04
when you get out, warm yourself up, like, don't go
32:06
in the sauna and take a hot bath. Just like,
32:08
warm yourself up by doing, like, jumping jacks or anything.
32:10
They've done a lot of studies like that for men.
32:13
It raises your testosterone when you have to, like, heat
32:15
yourself back up. So you release more testosterone by just,
32:17
like, doing push-ups, jumping jacks, whatever it is, you know.
32:19
You just warm up by exercise a little bit. It
32:21
doesn't have to be nothing crazy, you even get your
32:23
heart rate up. Just warm up, just do it till
32:25
you warm up, release testosterone.
32:28
Why did that interest you so much? Because
32:30
I think it's super interesting. Science just
32:32
fucking buried me online right now. She
32:34
goes, hmm, babe. No, I mean,
32:36
does that, you have, yes, it's an all-in-a-half. Babe, I
32:39
don't think I can have any more testosterone. It has
32:41
a surplus amount of testosterone. Doctors, I didn't tell them
32:43
that. But wait, so before we started. Dr. Gary Vee,
32:45
actually, he's the one that told me that. But
32:49
before we started, you said you have another 12
32:51
pounds to lose? Yeah. And
32:53
how exactly do you do that in such a
32:56
short time? Does the cold plunges work? What's your,
32:58
like, technique to lose weight? Definitely
33:00
the cold plunges will help, especially if, like, you're,
33:03
like, let's say you're plateaued out, whatever it is you're
33:05
doing, you've never done that cold bath. It's like how you're
33:07
doing them now. The cold plunges
33:09
help a million percent. I know, long
33:11
story short, it helps transfer the white fat
33:13
into brown fat. And white fat is something
33:15
that's stored for, you know, you've been
33:17
in the desert for like three weeks and now your body's
33:19
eating away at this fat, you know. So you'll move
33:22
it to brown fat, which is a lot easier to
33:24
burn, which you could burn doing cardio workouts and stuff
33:26
like that. I think just the amount of
33:28
calories that you also lose in a
33:30
cold bath because your body has to maintain a certain temperature no
33:32
matter what. So your heart's pumping, you're
33:34
burning calories, you know. The endorphins it releases,
33:37
like all that stuff is really good for
33:39
losing weight. Also the sauna. For recovery, and
33:43
there's a lot of studies in women too, but obviously
33:45
I don't know that much. I know for men, when
33:48
we hit, like, a certain core temperature, we start to
33:50
release testosterone and HGH. And just, like,
33:52
exposing yourself to it, like, three times a week. So
33:54
not just the actual water sweating that you do because
33:56
when you drink a glass of water, you put it
33:59
back on. But you're putting in
34:01
a lot of things in your body that are gonna
34:03
help you burn fat fast You know and produce more
34:05
HGH and then just the workouts are there. I mean
34:07
I Consistently workout two to
34:09
three times a day So I all I got to
34:11
do is like watch my mouth a little bit And
34:13
just I mean a little bit and I lose crazy
34:15
amount of weight, you know, really? Yeah, does bread get
34:17
you? Um, I I can't really
34:20
mess with bread lately cuz I'm not allergic to
34:22
gluten But it's like I have a sensitivity to
34:24
it now everybody does. Yeah, it's the poison that
34:26
they're giving and it's just too much You know
34:28
if it was like gluten once in a while,
34:31
no problem But since it's like so much we've been
34:33
like in everything you do is gluten So I have
34:35
like a gluten-free diet so I get gluten-free bread cuz
34:37
I need my break Do you ever go to other
34:39
countries? I need the rice all the time In
34:42
other countries I could eat their fast food
34:44
and I burn off weight. Yeah, it's something
34:46
in the whatever They're putting
34:48
in our even the fruits of strawberries. I It's
34:51
the way it's grown It's it's cuz our
34:53
everything our our ground and our soil has
34:55
been completely so messed with that we would
34:57
need to Completely reflip and redo our soil
35:00
and it's like the way that our wheat
35:02
is like in Europe They have short wheat
35:04
and here we have long wheat I think
35:06
and it might be the opposite but one
35:08
of them and so here it's been so messed with so
35:10
that we have such A surplus that it's like there's
35:12
nothing you can do with a wheat here and they cut
35:14
so many corners You got a fucking chicken is
35:17
born and full-grown in like three weeks and now
35:19
you're eating it next week. There's a million things
35:21
man Robert Kennedy was on our
35:23
show and he was talking about how he wants to fix
35:26
the ground I know you're you're
35:28
you're very confident when it comes to your political
35:30
stance Because you came from a country where
35:33
they didn't give you the freedom to speak about it and
35:35
so you what's your favorite color? When they
35:37
tell you what God we are God. There is
35:39
no other God Freaking government is
35:41
God and they're telling what they're doing If
35:43
you decide to protest one day with
35:46
your wife here, they're oh, yeah, we'll make trouble
35:48
lock their ass up ten years in jail I'll
35:50
see you ten years later. We trial.
35:53
Yeah fucking right, you know, it's
35:55
nuts There's another world man. And is that why you're
35:58
so confident to go speak? I'm
42:00
fighting for my baby girl with all my heart.
42:03
You know, there's a lot of cool countries. I've been all over the
42:05
world twice, but America's fucking
42:07
the greatest country in the world. It's just
42:09
being controlled by some fucking bad people right
42:11
now, bro. I pray that this country
42:13
is going to get back on its feet. And if not,
42:15
you know, it's not
42:17
just for our country, but we are the beacon of
42:20
light. Look at Russia and Ukraine. Trump
42:23
left Russia, Ukraine, China, Taiwan,
42:25
China, Hong Kong. It's
42:27
getting crazy. And there's more and more conflict or
42:29
arising that is about to get revealed right now.
42:32
Oh, this person's fighting with that. And now China
42:34
wants to move in on this fucking part of
42:36
the sea in this other country. It's just getting
42:38
crazy and crazy. When we got the right people
42:40
running the show, everybody plays the part. There
42:42
was no heat in the Middle East. Look at Palestine
42:45
right now in Israel. It's nuts, man. Trump
42:47
had four years apiece, brought the Abraham Accords.
42:49
And this is not some magic wand or
42:52
nothing. This is a guy
42:54
that's actually committed to doing a good job and
42:56
using America to bring light to everybody else. There
42:58
was no wars when Trump was president. I know
43:00
he says the meanest tweets that ever
43:02
fucking lived. So what? If
43:05
your coach is an asshole, but you're winning fucking games, who
43:08
gives a fuck if he tells you, wake the fuck up
43:10
and go run right now, you fat motherfucker. That's what you
43:12
need to do. That's what the fuck you need to do,
43:14
you know? So people
43:17
got very sensitive. We're so
43:19
sensitive. We got sensitive. But
43:21
you know what? In history, it does repeat
43:23
itself. Listen, they're all communist tactics. My
43:27
family would tell me, like in Cuba, one
43:30
war at the start is not just racism
43:32
and not just white people to dislike black
43:34
people and black people to dislike white people,
43:36
but get black people themselves to fight with
43:38
black people, get white people themselves to fight
43:41
and separate, divide and conquer. And
43:43
then it's, you know, they're in there now they're going to
43:45
take away God. If you see
43:47
what the federal department is doing, they've
43:49
been taking God away out of school little by little
43:51
and every year more and more and more. I've noticed
43:54
that. It's just like, man, why? Why
43:56
do you guys care so much? When you remove God, you just
43:58
sit in a room of darkness. You know,
44:00
it's so funny the way you speak is
44:03
like how my like cousins speak. They're very
44:05
passionate and I love your Your
44:07
faithfulness to what you stand on and what
44:09
you believe and I think you
44:12
go about in a pretty cool way I think I
44:14
think the way you speak is pretty cool And I
44:16
hope nobody removes their tongue away from you, bro And
44:19
just like I know we look at the
44:21
opposite end right? For example when
44:23
we look at people that do that type of
44:25
teaching I don't even want to remove
44:27
their mouth away from them I don't I would never
44:29
want to remove anybody's mouth away from anybody
44:32
I think separating somebody from whatever they believe
44:34
in is giving them permission to do that
44:36
to me Do you get what
44:38
I'm saying? And I and that's why I think
44:41
if you believe in whatever you believe in I think that
44:43
should be fine and dandy Yeah, but they should treat us
44:46
everybody like Christians Christians get the
44:49
slack of it, bro Why because we're the ones
44:51
that will forgive you Everybody else
44:53
will fight up. That's what our Our
44:57
Savior teaches us, you know, that's what we we
44:59
get, you know taught and it's the way to
45:01
live it, you know, because Who
45:04
going I for I is gonna be a lot
45:06
of blind people, you know, so I
45:08
I Get it man. But
45:10
at the same time it's like in certain
45:12
categories like it's enough is enough I'm
45:17
a Christian and when the day comes and they're like You're
45:21
Christian you're dead or
45:23
you could denounce Christ That
45:26
is could be kill my hands right now Me
45:30
and you both be in heaven feel like you know
45:32
George's and I was just going over it again I
45:34
had read it some time ago But I was like
45:36
it came up on the YouTube and I was watching
45:39
the video like all the apostles had like the most
45:41
gruesome deaths Ever and they
45:43
are recorded in history. This is not like
45:45
me and you make like they're recording
45:47
What these deaths are like so
45:49
horrible. What would get me to
45:51
do that nothing? There's
45:54
like nothing you But I'm gonna give you five hundred
45:56
million dollars, but we're gonna crucify you upside down and
45:58
and bleed you out. Okay. Keep your money man
50:00
and in a moment's notice somebody could rip
50:02
my character and people will believe it they'll
50:05
believe that so I sat there and I asked
50:07
God I go how do I how does a
50:09
man move through this type of like environment
50:11
like where everybody's like it's a witch hunt
50:14
like and there's no evidence they could just
50:16
point the finger show fake stuff
50:18
and then now people will believe it and
50:21
I was reading the Bible bro
50:24
and it was when Paul was
50:27
was captured and the
50:29
way that the people were just blown away by
50:31
this man being so willingly to go with them
50:35
and he went there and he would sing in the
50:37
in the chains broke off of them and
50:39
this kid came up to me that same day I was reading
50:41
the Bible and he said what I love
50:44
about you the most is you do not care
50:46
what the consequences of you speaking about Jesus but
50:48
you do and I did it
50:50
because I love Jesus so much I don't care about the
50:52
consequence but when he saw that
50:54
in his eyes he saw a man who
50:57
doesn't fear the consequence and so
50:59
what I've learned I understand the the term
51:01
of forgiving your enemies and showing them nothing
51:03
but love is because say you came in
51:05
just hurt me right and I'm
51:07
like don't worry about I forgive you and
51:09
I move on and you see by my actions
51:11
I truly don't care and I moved on
51:13
you'll be so curious on how could he forgive
51:16
me this quick and how could he just not
51:18
why does it not bother him how is he
51:20
so full of love and peace and joy
51:22
and that's because I rest with Christ so there's
51:24
nothing a man could do to me if God
51:27
is for me then who could be against me
51:29
you cannot rip Jesus away from me so
51:31
when I have this in my heart now what
51:33
I'm trying to do is perfectly
51:36
demonstrate how a man should act
51:38
under pressure but I fail
51:40
because I'm a human so
51:43
it's just I always
51:45
think tell God I'm
51:48
sorry and sometimes even before
51:50
I'm sorry about the knock you do down you
51:53
ask for forgiveness before you but
51:56
some people come looking
51:59
for and I'm just apologizing before it's been. It's
52:03
also, you know, to do my sport and the
52:05
upbringing, but it's like one of the things I
52:07
got the most trouble with, you know, and also
52:09
I always go into like flight or fighting more.
52:11
Like if, let's say we went out, the
52:13
video was saying, we're getting like, you know, I
52:16
don't know, frozen yogurt and like some shady characters
52:18
come in and they're like violating space. And then
52:20
they start getting like rowdy. I'm
52:22
not asking questions. I'm going to
52:24
take care of myself, you know, and find
52:27
out, you know, you gotta protect yourself. Cause you
52:29
know, you know what's going to happen. And I've
52:31
always thought like that. So it's like, you know,
52:33
but then after I feel
52:35
really bad. You know, like all
52:37
the bodies are lying there in the ground. And I'm
52:39
like, damn, I knocked you the fuck out. But
52:42
I shouldn't have done that. Does it affect you
52:44
afterwards? Cause you feel like, like you forget
52:46
in the moment and just like how impactful you are in
52:48
the fight. I don't forget. I know very,
52:51
very well. Let me forget. He's like showing his boys.
52:53
He's like, yo, look at, look at. Don't forget, I
52:55
mean like afterwards, like the aftermath when
52:57
the guy, you know, is like very hurt. And you're
52:59
like, fuck, like maybe I should have held back of
53:01
it or like. You know, cause
53:03
the only times that it's happened like, you know,
53:05
in, in like
53:07
outside of gym scenarios, it's,
53:09
I really felt, and I'm not joking, that my
53:11
life, it was me or you and it's not
53:14
going to be me today. Yeah. God
53:16
didn't call me on today, you know? And at
53:18
the moment I won't feel bad because I'm just going
53:21
to, you know, but then when I get home, I
53:23
will pray. You know, like the last time I had like a real
53:25
incident was in a, and this story's kind of famous cause a couple
53:29
of the fighters that do like podcasts set it, you know, some
53:31
of them were like, were there and stuff. I went to China
53:33
and man, I forget what
53:35
city I was, but the UFC brought me out there and
53:38
I was dressed nice. I had like a nice little chain and
53:40
boom. And man, it was like a very
53:42
nice party. Like I really wanted to be at this party. So
53:44
I'm like, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to
53:46
freshen up and get some breath mints, bam, you know, chimney. I'm
53:49
in line waiting, you know, and
53:53
some guy like lifts my chain up and he
53:55
starts talking to his friend from
53:57
the back and he's like, I don't, I don't know.
53:59
I didn't even know what language he's saying, right? Because
54:01
I'm in China, I don't know if he's, they look
54:03
European, but I'm fucking, I don't know what he's saying.
54:06
So I go very politely, I go like this, I
54:08
go, oh, okay, maybe you could have been saying you
54:11
have the nicest chain in the world. I
54:13
don't know what he was saying, you know? I just went
54:15
like this, and I went, oh, okay, thank you. And moved
54:18
up like two feet closer, I got closer to the guy
54:20
in front of me, which I didn't want to be, I'd
54:22
like to give everybody space in the bathroom, but he let
54:24
me get away from these suckers. You
54:26
know, so I'm just looking in the mirror
54:28
right there behind me, just keep an eye over my
54:30
shoulder. And one of them goes like
54:32
that to my chain, like flicks me, like that, like he just lifts
54:35
it up like that. Man,
54:37
I really wanted to be at this party, because
54:39
this was like, really, this was like a really
54:41
nice party, right? And I'm like, man.
54:43
And you're in China, dude. And I'm in China, man, I
54:45
really gotta wash my hands. That's your concern? Wait, time out,
54:47
that's your concern? Dude, that's so
54:50
funny, bro. If you're in a different country, and you're
54:52
about to light somebody up, my concern is what does
54:54
their prisons look like? Yours is like, I'm trying to
54:56
get into this party right now. Those are in the
54:58
party. I'm already in the party. I'm
55:01
already in this party. I go, this is where
55:03
I wanna be. I don't always party, but man,
55:05
I'm glad I'm here tonight, right? And I'm like,
55:07
damn, dog. I still gotta
55:09
brush my teeth. And I turn around, pow, pow. It
55:11
was like three of them. I laid them all clean.
55:14
I washed my hands and I left, right? And I
55:16
went to my booth where I'm at. And
55:19
I'm like, with my translator at the
55:21
time, my friend, seven foot
55:23
four, black dude, looks
55:25
like freaking, like a kung fu dude, he's
55:28
got a huge fro, like this guy's so noticeable, especially like
55:30
in China, right? And he's the dude rolling with me. And
55:33
he comes up to me and he's like, yo, my boy,
55:35
did you, did anything happen about
55:37
this? I go, no, what are you talking
55:39
about? Yo, my boy, listen, if the
55:42
police has come here and they
55:44
find you guilty, or not even guilty, if they come
55:46
here, they arrest everybody who was involved, you don't see
55:48
a judge for 30 days. Call
55:55
me a cab right now. And
55:57
I took off. had
56:00
to like, besides
56:02
the allegedly incident and stuff, that was like the last
56:04
time I had to defend myself. But I don't know
56:06
what's gonna happen. I don't know if this guy's gonna
56:09
stab me. I don't know if this guy's gonna yank
56:11
the chain off me. I don't know if when I
56:13
cut this corner, he's gonna punch me. You've already violated
56:15
me twice. Give you one cheek, give you second cheek.
56:18
Now which one? Dude,
56:20
that guy requests. I'm
56:22
just gonna, as a brother in Christ,
56:25
I'm gonna say there was definitely another
56:27
approach to light these guys up. My
56:30
friend says this, he goes, I correct them so the
56:32
next guy doesn't have to deal with it. And
56:34
I feel like you have that energy. You just kind of
56:37
like. It's just that, you know, and
56:39
I don't always drink, but I
56:42
might've had a shot or two that night.
56:45
So I'm already like, man, I don't wanna
56:47
deal with this right now. These guys
56:49
get the first jump on me. I'm fucked, because I'm
56:51
not in my full senses. And it's three
56:53
of them, you know? So that's how I'm thinking.
56:55
I'm like, if you already did that twice, you're-
56:59
Yeah, you're gonna go, you either have a gun on you, you
57:01
have a knife on you, or you
57:03
just like really looking for trouble, you
57:06
know? So I'm
57:08
not gonna be nobody's pinata, bro. Well,
57:10
I'm sure they haven't flicked any chains since then. You
57:12
know what I mean? I hope. Okay,
57:15
but so I know it's wrong. You don't wanna start a
57:17
fight. You do not wanna fight people. You know what I
57:19
mean? For no reason. Like you don't wanna get into altercations.
57:21
But aside from all that, because you have all the skills,
57:23
do you kind of feel like you're in a little movie,
57:26
like when you're in the bathroom, you're pounding down three
57:29
guys. You could tell by the way your fight come
57:31
up. I have to, yeah. It just combs his hair.
57:33
Yeah, you're walking out. I swear to you, I got
57:35
the breath mints. Cause I was like, man, I
57:38
didn't just come in and do, I need these breath mints.
57:40
So I walked up, the guy was like this hand in my,
57:42
I was like this, and he didn't even say a word.
57:44
I just grabbed him real quick and I took right off. You
57:47
were Jason Statham. But I had to get
57:49
my breath mints. You beat the shit out of three guys and
57:51
then took a breath mint. But these guys,
57:54
one of them looked like he was on a major
57:56
Juiceroy's, but- You're just making yourself
57:58
look cooler. These guys weren't like- You know
58:00
what I'm saying? It's not like three guys from the
58:02
gym, you know? It's like,
58:04
they bench press every Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.
58:07
I ain't worried about them, you know? What
58:10
are the odds? I see there's always
58:12
viral viral videos of like Bradley Martin just being
58:14
like, could you take me? And he's like a
58:16
big dude, so I understand the- Bradley Martin's the
58:18
bodybuilder. Yeah, I understand his question. A lot of
58:20
people make fun of it, but I get it,
58:22
because size and height matters. Like
58:25
you asked me that, only one answer, my
58:27
brother. I hope he don't ask
58:29
me that, because I only got like, to me, there's
58:31
only one answer. Let's find out. Let's
58:33
find out right now, because I love to do it. And
58:35
if you sign that slip, we can find out
58:38
right now. Well, I got a question for you. It
58:40
has nothing to do with that. But
58:42
say hypothetically. Especially if someone's like bigger than
58:44
me, it already like- It pisses you off.
58:47
Not even piss out. Let's just find out. And
58:50
if you notice, I'm not that big. No,
58:52
yeah, yeah, yeah. My next question is, me,
58:54
Reid, and Bell, we're on this side of
58:56
the room, the door's on that side of the
58:58
room. Do you think you
59:00
could kill all of us before we run out? Or do
59:02
you think that you could actually, like could we like somehow-
59:06
Bro, bro, bro, bro. Look
59:08
at- Dog, you're missing my girl, bro. I'm really
59:10
flexing for you. I was flexing-
59:12
Let me just say something. These
59:15
two are dead. I can't hit women, so you don't get to
59:17
live. Let's go. One
59:20
of us makes it out. What if
59:22
I identify in that
59:25
moment? I'm just kidding.
59:29
These bad boys weren't built for women, so she gets to live,
59:31
you know. But you two dudes, I don't-
59:34
I didn't get it, man. Probably not, brother. I mean,
59:36
unless you got like a fucking machine gun under there,
59:38
brother, you can be a problem. Yeah, you look like
59:40
a shooter. Yeah, you look like a shooter. That's so
59:42
funny, dude. Dude,
59:46
stem cells. I
59:50
know that just sounded like we made a cut. Amazing. I'm
59:52
just gonna keep it rolling. Amazing. I need
59:54
to know about this, bro. First of
59:56
all, how did you get into it? Is it expensive?
59:59
What is the difference? So
1:00:04
what I know is that when you do it
1:00:06
in like let's say Colombia, now Mexico's
1:00:09
opening up some state-of-the-art places. The
1:00:11
way legislation is written out and the rules of it,
1:00:14
you could get more stem cells per bag
1:00:17
outside of the country. Yeah I heard this. So
1:00:20
you know in a sense it comes out to
1:00:22
cheaper you could have a lot more there but
1:00:24
that's not to say that the stem cells in
1:00:26
America are not top-of-the-line and kick ass as well
1:00:29
though you can get less. For
1:00:31
example I've done stem cells on my hands
1:00:33
numerous times and three
1:00:36
times has been here in
1:00:38
the US and like it's
1:00:40
amazing. What does it look like? How
1:00:43
do you even go through that? Do they open you up?
1:00:46
Do they inject something? No, no, it's just like an injection.
1:00:48
They'll put a couple injections first some numb the area let's
1:00:50
say it was on my hands or something or like the
1:00:52
elbows they'll put something right here to hurt me. I
1:00:56
mean not really you know but
1:00:58
it can't hurt after like serious pain. So
1:01:00
I went to Colombia and I went to
1:01:02
bioxcellerator. That's like the number one place in
1:01:04
the world. That's a really good one. Coffee
1:01:07
and stem cells. Coffee and stem cells yeah
1:01:09
and Colombia has a bunch of American clinics.
1:01:11
You want to get a good American clinic,
1:01:14
get some good coffee and then boom boom boom you know
1:01:17
after the procedure it was like a lot of
1:01:19
pain. Why? It feels
1:01:22
like crazy ass growing pains like throbbing
1:01:24
all and like every second I just...
1:01:27
Because your cells are just like fixing
1:01:30
themselves? That on my knees is where
1:01:32
it hurts pretty much no yeah they're
1:01:34
like you know becoming one and they're
1:01:36
expiring the old ones again the new
1:01:38
ones in there they're replacing that but
1:01:40
I I was there about ten days
1:01:42
from my treatment. I did my knees,
1:01:44
my hands, my elbows and
1:01:48
I was like yeah this is gonna be like amazing you know
1:01:50
and they're like prepping me up and then you gotta kind of
1:01:52
like I had to report all that to you. You saw it
1:01:54
first so they got to prove it all this is where you're
1:01:56
gonna do the medical procedure. Alright boom you're good to go there.
1:01:59
So while I'm over this There was this dude that was
1:02:01
in the wheelchair. This is a true fucking story. Guy was
1:02:03
in the wheelchair. And I got there when he got there.
1:02:05
No, I got there and he was already there two, three
1:02:07
days, four days, I don't know like that. And he was
1:02:09
doing numerous procedures. Now what they were doing to him is
1:02:12
they were injecting in the bone
1:02:14
marrow in the spine, they were injecting stem
1:02:16
cell, right? And we
1:02:19
were at the same hotel, so I'd get down, I'd get
1:02:21
coffee, he's right there next to me. We'd kick
1:02:23
it, we started talking shit. He didn't
1:02:25
even know it was a fight, and then he found out what I did,
1:02:27
because people kept asking me for a picture. I didn't even know, man, we
1:02:29
just talking with you, bro, that's so cool. And then he
1:02:31
started following my fights and saw him on, and he said,
1:02:33
bro, I didn't know you fucking get down like that, it's
1:02:35
crazy, so now we're talking every time I see him. And
1:02:38
I don't know, like three, four days go by, and
1:02:41
I see him outside the
1:02:44
elevator. And he's with his friends and
1:02:47
stuff, and he's fucking crying. And
1:02:49
I'm like, damn, fuck, man. Maybe
1:02:52
they told him they couldn't do it or something like that,
1:02:54
or who knows, bro? And I'm feeling like, I
1:02:57
haven't known this guy for long, but still, it just
1:02:59
sucks to see a guy in a wheelchair that's so
1:03:01
cool, that's crying, I pull up. He's like with the
1:03:04
biggest smile, what's up, man? I'm
1:03:06
like, what's up, brother? You're like, man, I
1:03:08
haven't moved my toes in like 10 years. He's
1:03:12
fucking moving his toes and moving his toes. Yeah, he said
1:03:14
he hadn't done that in 10 years, so it was like,
1:03:16
fucking crazy. So that's why you said it was good news.
1:03:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, thank God, okay, cool, cool, cool. Moving
1:03:20
his toes and shit. Did you follow up with him later
1:03:22
on in life? I think I might've
1:03:25
talked to him one time after that, and then that's it, I
1:03:27
haven't talked to him since, but
1:03:29
this is like a miracle-like thing. Man, from my knees,
1:03:31
it did wonders, from my hands, it did wonders. From
1:03:34
like wrestling and then getting kicked in the knee
1:03:36
and then all the constant road work that we
1:03:38
do, I have like, and I've also torn my
1:03:40
meniscus three times on this knee, twice on this
1:03:43
one. I never did the repair because my coaches
1:03:45
and friends that had done the knee repair would
1:03:47
say, well, you're gonna be out for six months
1:03:49
with the repair, and on top of it, if
1:03:51
it breaks, it's like a lot worse now. It's
1:03:53
like way worse, you know? Because they're putting like man-made parts
1:03:55
in you, it's not the same, they're showing you up. So
1:03:57
what I always opted to do was rehab. And
1:04:00
I would turn my meniscus and do rehab, I don't
1:04:02
know, three to six months just to like strengthen back
1:04:04
up and get it right. But that developed like a
1:04:06
ton of scar tissue. So I really couldn't, for
1:04:09
one obvious reason that
1:04:11
I knew I had to get something, I couldn't break
1:04:13
parallel like on squats. It'd be like the most fucking
1:04:16
painful thing. If I had weight on me, it would
1:04:18
like destroy my knees to break like parallel. So my
1:04:20
range of motion was shit, you know? And
1:04:22
I'm also known for throwing really good knees, right? So I
1:04:24
should have some fucking range of motion on it so I
1:04:27
could bring them up higher, lower, whatever. And
1:04:29
I went there, did it, like a month
1:04:31
later, break parallel, like nothing happened, still to
1:04:33
this day, you know? So I definitely 100%
1:04:36
was in the sense of- Was it before or after Ben? After,
1:04:38
way after. They're like two years after that one. I
1:04:41
was about to say, I'm like, yeah. When
1:04:43
you did that, when you knocked him out with your knee,
1:04:45
did you know that you were gonna do that when the
1:04:48
fight was about to start? Was that your plan or was
1:04:50
it spontaneous? So we practiced
1:04:52
that for a while, right? And then we didn't
1:04:54
know if we were gonna do round one, round
1:04:56
two, round three. And also I
1:04:58
wanted to like read him, you know, last minute, like, is
1:05:00
he feeling aggressive? Cause I also don't want to throw in
1:05:02
then like, ah, I missed my chance. So I'm kind of
1:05:04
like, let me see how he's acting. And how he was
1:05:07
acting, he was giving me all the indications. He's
1:05:09
gonna try to sniff my crotch. I said that, I
1:05:11
said he's gonna swoop in. He's gonna swoop in, he's
1:05:13
gonna try to sniff my crotch. Cause that's what he
1:05:15
does, just like Kobe, he just want to sniff another
1:05:17
man instead of punching. How could you tell from him
1:05:19
standing across from me? The way he was acting was
1:05:21
very like, you know, trying to go forward, forward in
1:05:23
the referee. He's like, tell him to step back. I'm
1:05:25
like, yeah, he thinks he's just gonna get right into
1:05:28
his wrestling shit. Not, you know? I showed Bell
1:05:30
that and I was like, yeah, he was trying to swoop, that's
1:05:32
why he did it. He's like, really? I'm like,
1:05:34
yeah, I did that. And she goes, you've done that to somebody?
1:05:36
I go, Bella, if I've ever done that to somebody, I'd be
1:05:38
talking about it every day of my life. And chill out somebody.
1:05:41
Just last week, I knocked this dude down. Bella,
1:05:43
listen, fucking everybody was like, ah, damn.
1:05:45
George, he's 98 years old. Those that
1:05:48
matter, look at that range of motion,
1:05:50
baby. Technique. That's so funny. That's crazy
1:05:52
fun. Hey, speaking of Kobe, he
1:05:54
freaking knead you in the crotch so hard. So
1:05:57
low blow. Was that purpose, do you think? Of
1:05:59
course. It was on purpose, you know? And
1:06:02
did that hurt? It hurt,
1:06:04
but that was OK. The eye poke fucked
1:06:06
me up. I was like, for like a
1:06:09
whole round, my fucking eye swollen. And I
1:06:11
can't really like get my
1:06:13
fucking, my vision. Because when you get poked in this shit,
1:06:15
your eye's going to sweat up. And then it takes a
1:06:17
little bit of time. And then it starts to go down.
1:06:19
Though we're fighting, though we're moving, it's like one of the
1:06:21
most uncomfortable things. And it's also like one of the dumbest
1:06:24
rules. If you get need, you get up to five minutes,
1:06:26
right? If you get eye poked, there's like, the
1:06:29
doctor's going to come in, you're OK, well then continue.
1:06:31
So it's the most painful thing that could possibly happen
1:06:33
to you, by far. Give us a
1:06:35
second for our eye to adjust. It's like right away,
1:06:37
they're going to come in. That's your vision, too. Can
1:06:39
you see? And then if you're like, even you will
1:06:41
always lie. Yeah, yeah, of course I could see. Even
1:06:44
if I can't see. Over here. Yeah, I could see.
1:06:46
Because if you say something like, give me a second, fight
1:06:49
off. And it's bullshit, bro.
1:06:51
It's like, yo, give me a minute or two. And
1:06:53
my eye's going to come back. I just had a
1:06:55
fucking dude that's trained to hurt people, jab
1:06:57
me in the eye with his fingers. Speaking of
1:06:59
fights being off, the Nate Diaz fight being off, did
1:07:02
you agree with it? Did you think it should have
1:07:04
been stopped? Me, Persim,
1:07:06
from like, I wanted to not
1:07:08
kill him, but I wanted to leave him dead there. That's
1:07:11
killing him. Killing
1:07:13
him in the sport, because I never want to take
1:07:16
a man's life away in my profession. But I want
1:07:18
to leave him like, there's no question about it. No
1:07:20
pebble is going to take my greatness that you tripped
1:07:22
on. And then they're going to say, well, it's because
1:07:24
of the pebble. No, it was because of these hands,
1:07:26
and I put him down. So part of me, yeah,
1:07:28
but at the same time, they saved him like a
1:07:31
lifetime of injury and CT and concussions. So you think
1:07:33
he was done? Man, he had
1:07:35
two cuts on this side. One cut here, and I
1:07:37
had dropped him three times. Two
1:07:39
of those were. Dude, he could take a punch. He could take
1:07:41
a punch. But these kicks, he couldn't, because every time I hit
1:07:43
him, he went down. I hit him to the body, he went
1:07:45
down. I kicked him in the head, and he went down. And
1:07:47
one of them was from an overhand right. Can you take that
1:07:49
punishment? Yeah, but it does catch up
1:07:51
to you. It's not like, oh, I'm tough. Your
1:07:54
Usman fight, do you think that like
1:07:57
how you could receive a punch? Definitely, for
1:07:59
a while. That's it. took a lot of time off.
1:08:01
It's like, your chin only gets
1:08:03
weaker after things like that. You need to give it
1:08:05
the nice time to be trained, go do your neck,
1:08:08
work on your job, but your chin doesn't get strong
1:08:10
as it takes shots. Do you think that's why Volkanotsky
1:08:12
is like, just getting dropped
1:08:14
quick? Man, that Volk
1:08:16
fight, man. He's one of
1:08:18
my favorite all-time fighters, but when he fought Islam,
1:08:20
and I know because I've done it, when you
1:08:22
take a fight like an 11 days notice, 10
1:08:24
days notice, it's just- He's an animal. You know,
1:08:26
and you're going up, a weight class, you're fighting
1:08:28
one of the best guys in the world, and
1:08:30
you guys already had like a very good close
1:08:32
fight, which I thought Volk won the first one,
1:08:34
but it's a lot, man, and
1:08:38
this guy's already in shape, prepared, you know, in
1:08:40
the training camp. Yeah, you've been going to the
1:08:42
gym training, maybe you've been dieting, maybe you've been
1:08:44
clean with your diet, maybe you haven't. He's just
1:08:47
Australian, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put
1:08:49
the fosters down and said, let's go. Two
1:08:51
weeks, all right, I'm ready. Yeah, you know,
1:08:53
and it's just, those things catch
1:08:55
up to you, but Volk's one of the fucking best to ever do
1:08:57
it, man, as well. He's one
1:09:00
of my favorite, but I love his heart. Yeah, yeah, no,
1:09:02
they gotta fight anybody, anytime, any place, and he could do
1:09:04
it all. He could wrestle, he could grapple, he
1:09:06
could kick, he could punch, you know. But my boy,
1:09:08
Ili, though, I've been talking about him fucking since he
1:09:10
started in the UFC. The champ, the guy that knocked
1:09:12
out a Volkanovski, and
1:09:14
I, 145, Ili Topori, love
1:09:17
this guy. Beast. Beast, beast, and I've been,
1:09:19
I've known him for a minute, so I've been preaching
1:09:22
about my boy, telling people, man, this dude's a problem, man. I
1:09:24
got to work out with him a couple times, and I knew
1:09:26
since then, I was like, this guy's got it, you know, you
1:09:29
gotta be born with certain gifts, God has to give you, God
1:09:31
gave him plenty of gifts, you know. What ethnicity is he? He,
1:09:37
I'm gonna
1:09:39
tell you right now, he lives in Spain, but
1:09:41
he came from, fucking, where Marab
1:09:44
is from. I'm
1:09:46
gonna tell you right now, man, don't kick
1:09:48
my ass, Iliya. I think he's obsessed
1:09:50
with it. No, Georgia. Georgia,
1:09:52
he's Georgian originally. That's in the States.
1:09:55
No, no, no, the other one. There's
1:09:57
another Georgia? Yeah. I didn't even
1:09:59
know that. Yeah, by Europe, by... Damn, I'm so
1:10:01
uneducated. Yeah, Georgia, huh? Yeah,
1:10:03
does he get his peaches from it? No,
1:10:06
that's from the Georgia peaches. Yeah Different
1:10:13
type of peaches over there, but yeah, um, he's
1:10:15
Georgian and then he defected to Spain and now
1:10:17
he's been there his whole life. I Just
1:10:22
want to know why you have not Gotten
1:10:25
into the ring with Conor McGregor because that
1:10:27
would He
1:10:29
wouldn't he doesn't want to do that you've see offered it
1:10:31
to him many times He would bring him
1:10:34
my size, but he's on my weight class. You are in
1:10:36
the same weight class He's at 170 not competing. He wanted
1:10:38
to do the fight at 185 against Chandler And it's always
1:10:40
been kind of like they bring it up to me shuts
1:10:42
it down He doesn't never mention
1:10:44
my names in interviews. I could say you still fight him
1:10:46
now or no because he just came out of time Yeah,
1:10:48
I would I would fight. Yeah, I'm doing the boxing now.
1:10:51
I'm gonna focus on that Like I said, I got those
1:10:53
three fights. He's had time to recover Brown and I feel
1:10:55
like he's Sauce
1:11:09
daddy they may not allow but Testing
1:11:15
agency there was a place
1:11:17
called you saw right? You're like, oh shit, you're
1:11:19
getting drug tested and random. Oh, you had a
1:11:21
barbecue cool. What's that? Yeah, we got that Where
1:11:24
do they say? Where's it from? You saw
1:11:26
that like you saw nothing here, bro Just
1:11:32
like that but they roll up well, then why did
1:11:34
he get so mad at Ryan Garcia? Is
1:11:36
he trying to just cover his footprints or
1:11:39
something? It's projecting man You know a hundred
1:11:41
percent projecting because you could see
1:11:43
in the movie, bro He wasn't natural and before
1:11:45
that he wasn't natural, you know a massive, you
1:11:47
know It was like 220 pounds and and
1:11:50
he had broken his foot. So he said he was doing juice for this and
1:11:52
I was like Motherfucker, which one is it? You
1:11:54
know, did you do it or did you not you know and
1:11:56
it's something that I Mean,
1:11:58
but if he was doing it for recovery Is that fine?
1:12:01
And also it's like let's talk about the right issue thing
1:12:04
is whatever they said he was on if
1:12:06
he was on it What if what did it have made that
1:12:08
big of a difference? I? Think
1:12:12
so if he was on it, I'm not sure exactly
1:12:14
what he was on I forgot but one of the
1:12:16
components that I heard said that
1:12:19
it did boost abuse is awesome So that's
1:12:21
always gonna be a fucking red flag for
1:12:23
cheating. Like anything you take that's banned substance
1:12:25
There's things you could take that they say
1:12:27
that are not banned substance They can boost
1:12:29
up your testosterone, but anything that you take
1:12:31
that Pharmaceutical boost up your testosterone cheating,
1:12:33
you know, I don't know what we're Ryan on again
1:12:35
Exactly. I gotta see but I know he did beat
1:12:37
it though cuz the second sample came back clean So
1:12:39
it's clean, you know, but does that mean that time
1:12:41
was like it was just passed so it's out of
1:12:43
his no It could you could get a false positive.
1:12:45
That's what he had. He probably he went he took
1:12:47
some supplements Carelessly probably from like
1:12:50
GMC or something and these weren't the best supplements
1:12:52
because they make them where they make other shit
1:12:54
You know so you can get trace samples in
1:12:56
your urine or your blood and then when they
1:12:58
test you need to do further Investigations
1:13:01
because not they they'll take like three samples
1:13:03
right you you'll you'll do blood And
1:13:06
then piss and you'll piss in like two to three
1:13:08
different cups And they'll send these cups out to different
1:13:10
laboratories different amounts and they're gonna test them in if
1:13:12
one of these places says Oh wait, we found something
1:13:14
here They're gonna send the second one there to do
1:13:16
a further investigation on it, you know, and it's like
1:13:18
very thorough detailed or at least You
1:13:21
saw it was pretty pretty good Worked them for
1:13:23
like nine years and um never
1:13:26
melt never failed to test 50 attempts cleans can
1:13:28
beat never also miss Wait, something that I carry
1:13:30
with a lot of honor in my career, you
1:13:32
know And uh, these motherfuckers didn't like it
1:13:34
a lot of these motherfuckers And that's why I think Connor
1:13:36
went away because this you saw this was making his life,
1:13:38
you know Yeah, so that little
1:13:40
that if you don't want to find me then you don't
1:13:43
want to find me now Yeah, you scared of your knees
1:13:45
scared of the knees. He's scared of the size,
1:13:47
you know, I'll so confident talking shit I
1:13:50
guess so uncomfortable because I'll run into one of these guys and they'll
1:13:52
be like, oh, yeah You want to talk on your podcast come talk
1:13:54
over here problems man, I'm
1:13:56
just Hey,
1:13:59
come here Dude, I'm pretty
1:14:01
sure they're trying to make us communists over here,
1:14:03
but you gotta come over here. Where
1:14:07
is he at? Where
1:14:10
is he at? So you're still signed with the
1:14:12
UFC, so there is a possibility that God willing
1:14:14
you guys could fight. Yeah, yeah, there's always possibilities.
1:14:16
I would love it too. I would love it.
1:14:18
Well, this is your, this is your invite, you
1:14:20
know? You light up the last guy
1:14:22
that he fought, not Dustin,
1:14:24
I'm talking about Nate, and then you light
1:14:26
him up. I already lit up Nate, you
1:14:28
know, and that's another thing. He had very competitive fights, which
1:14:30
I thought he lost both to Nate, and Nate won the
1:14:33
second fight clear as they had a meeting, won three rounds
1:14:35
to two, and they
1:14:37
gifted that one to Connor because he draws. That,
1:14:39
I can't say, the guy draws, nobody, you know? Does
1:14:43
Dana favor him? It's not that
1:14:45
Dana favors him, it's just that Dana's a businessman, and
1:14:47
if, you know, you could,
1:14:49
I'm your boy, but I only get you 10,000 views, how
1:14:51
many times you're gonna invite me in the episode, but you
1:14:53
got so-and-so that gets 100 million views, you're gonna be like,
1:14:55
yo, I need you to come through, you know? So
1:14:58
it's like, it's not, I don't know
1:15:00
how they are with each other behind
1:15:02
the cameras, but Dana's just being a
1:15:04
businessman, he's booking one of the biggest
1:15:07
pay-per-view machines that we have, you know? It
1:15:10
makes sense, because Connor, I mean, like, listen, I'm
1:15:12
not, before I started seeing George, like, I knew
1:15:14
nothing about fighting, because why am I gonna, I
1:15:16
just knew nothing, you know? My love, you still
1:15:18
know nothing. I still know nothing, but I know
1:15:20
a little bit more. I don't even know anything.
1:15:22
I know a little bit more, okay? Right? Even
1:15:25
I knew about Connor McGregor, you know what I mean, at
1:15:27
the time when he was popping off, and I knew about
1:15:29
his drama and everything that's going on, because I think he's
1:15:31
such a character, and he's able to promote himself so well,
1:15:33
and I think it's like, he could be a really good
1:15:35
fighter, and he could be a really good character and promoter
1:15:37
of yourself, I mean. Yeah, it's the full package. Yeah, and
1:15:39
you need to be able, and now, you know, the sport's
1:15:41
going more and more towards that, you know? It's
1:15:44
like, if you can't promote yourself- Because
1:15:47
it's a showbiz, at the end of the day, it's a
1:15:49
showbiz. Who do you think is following
1:15:53
closer in his footsteps? Would you say it's
1:15:55
like Sean O'Malley? Sean O'Malley's doing
1:15:57
good, he's doing his own thing. I think- You
1:16:00
guys are not in the same weight class. No, no, he's a 135er. Yeah,
1:16:02
yeah, yeah. That would have been a great matchup. Because
1:16:04
you guys are very fast. Yeah, and both stand-up guys,
1:16:06
I wish. You know, from a perspective, like, I'm a
1:16:08
fan of his, and I love his style. I would
1:16:10
love to fight a guy like that, because he's a
1:16:13
fighter. He comes to knock people dead, you know, and
1:16:15
I love that. He's a good person, too. Yeah, no,
1:16:17
he's cool as hell. I like him a lot. Cool
1:16:19
as hell. I like Sean. I've liked him since
1:16:21
he got on the scene. He has his own style, and he fucking, he
1:16:23
doesn't, you know, you look at him, too, just doesn't
1:16:25
look like a fighter, you know what I'm saying? He
1:16:27
looks like a skateboarder, like the coolest kid at the
1:16:29
party or something, and he shows up, wap, wap, wap,
1:16:32
wap. He's fast and mean. Dude, he's just so precise.
1:16:34
You make one mistake, and he'll catch you. He's got
1:16:36
the range, you know, and he's another guy that he
1:16:38
sells really well. He's a showman, and he fucking backs
1:16:40
it up. You know why? Because he jumped into social
1:16:43
media as well. And
1:16:45
he has this just, like, very charismatic character that
1:16:47
if any, if it's Nelk that's recording him, or
1:16:49
Impulsive that's recording him, he has that image that,
1:16:51
like, I feel he portrays very well that other
1:16:53
men want to be like. Yeah. And I think
1:16:55
he does that very well. He looks natural at
1:16:57
doing it, you know what I mean? It doesn't
1:16:59
look like a gimmick he, like, fucking... He's not
1:17:02
trying hard. Yeah. It's who he is. Like, other
1:17:04
fuck faces out there that I won't mention the
1:17:06
name, you know? But he looks like he's actually,
1:17:08
like, that's him, you know? Who
1:17:10
gets underneath your skin now that you're like, oh, man, I'm
1:17:12
just going to, I want to show up with a pizza?
1:17:16
I mean... To
1:17:19
me, they're all the same, bro. I'm
1:17:21
going to give a fuck about, you know? I
1:17:23
don't know. OK, let's talk about the mic
1:17:26
then. My... My
1:17:29
thickness of skin is so thick to it, you
1:17:31
know, like, oh, somebody called me out, oh, somebody
1:17:33
just respected me, or, oh, somebody said I'm a
1:17:35
fucking punk. Whatever, you know? Fucking used to it
1:17:37
all, you know? Yeah. That must be... That must
1:17:39
feel good to have shit just roll off of
1:17:41
you. Because, like, give me the
1:17:43
shit. It takes so much energy. A lot of
1:17:45
these people know that because I actually, you know,
1:17:47
I should never say this in public because of
1:17:50
my promoters knowing that, like, oh, we paid way
1:17:52
too much for him. But I actually like the
1:17:54
fight, you know? So, like, I'm not looking for
1:17:56
it. But if I step outside of here and
1:17:58
somebody wants to rendezvous... And I'm like, I got
1:18:00
five minutes or five seconds to spare. So
1:18:04
be it. So when these motherfuckers be talking, and
1:18:06
then they see me, their whole mood changes because,
1:18:08
oh, this dude's for real going to come at
1:18:10
me. They take off. Or, hey,
1:18:12
boy, that was just online. Let me get a picture. No,
1:18:15
bro. Right here, right
1:18:17
now. So that actually
1:18:19
wanted to ask you that. That
1:18:21
was one of her questions. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she goes,
1:18:23
do you think people come up to him and just
1:18:26
want to start shit? Because they like know who he
1:18:28
is. Well, because certainly, you're in an environment. Like in
1:18:30
Vegas, I feel like people have this different, when they're
1:18:32
here, they're in party mode. They're just in like, they're
1:18:34
ready to say shit to people or whatever, right? They're
1:18:36
drunk. So I feel like, yeah, even, you know, so
1:18:38
I feel like they see you and they're like, trying
1:18:40
to say whatever. I don't know. You get like, dudes
1:18:43
that are across a personal space a lot. Because like
1:18:45
you said, we're in Vegas and had way too many
1:18:47
drinks. And they're like, way too friendly or, you know.
1:18:49
Like, man, I'm fucking hugging you. I'm going to get
1:18:51
the arm off. And they're heavy when they're drunk, dude.
1:18:54
I'm like, all right, man. Here
1:18:56
and there, I'll take a picture with somebody and they'll
1:18:59
put their hands way too low. And I was like,
1:19:01
you don't want to do that, big dog. You better
1:19:03
lift your hand up, man. That's
1:19:06
going to be a problem. Put the hands a little on you. Yeah,
1:19:08
yeah, you know. Like, picture time. Instead
1:19:11
of just being ready to have like
1:19:13
their hands. Like they're cuffing you? And
1:19:15
I'm like, you want to die? They're
1:19:18
grabbing your waist? What are you doing? So
1:19:21
yeah, that's about it. But no,
1:19:24
they don't, I mean, if they recognize me,
1:19:26
they also know like, this dude will clean my
1:19:28
clock if I get stupid. They know better, yeah.
1:19:30
I guess they, because you never know something. Some
1:19:32
people are just kind of stupid and, you know,
1:19:34
they want to just, they want to see something
1:19:36
happen. When I was younger, I used to compete
1:19:38
also at a different weight and I was like
1:19:40
very skinny and a big ass head. So I
1:19:42
would get more, yeah, like I- Metaphorically or just
1:19:44
when you actually had a big head? Bigger, it
1:19:46
looked way bigger than what it does now, you
1:19:48
know. So I was like, I don't know, 15
1:19:50
pounds less. So I looked way skinny, you know.
1:19:53
And like out of my group of friends, if
1:19:55
we went out for some reason or another, it'd
1:19:57
be me, and we'd get like tried.
1:19:59
I had to disrespect it or like things would come
1:20:01
my way. And I'm like, bro, I really, I don't
1:20:04
get it. I don't even look for this shit, you know, but I'm
1:20:06
not running from it either. So
1:20:09
I have his friend named Kaveh and he is,
1:20:14
he's not a mixed martial artist. He's not even a good
1:20:16
fighter. He just has the heart of a fighter, bro. Like
1:20:18
he just wants to smoke all the time. Like all the
1:20:20
time. In fact, like I'm not joking. There's times where I'll
1:20:22
face, my mom will FaceTime me and she'll like point the
1:20:25
camera at Kaveh and she's not even with him. She's just
1:20:27
on the street and he's fighting some dude on the sidewalk.
1:20:29
Like this guy just loses his mind all the time. I
1:20:31
got a job for him. It'll
1:20:33
take that job, bro. You know what
1:20:36
he says? I don't look for it, but I'll end
1:20:38
it. That's his mentality. Especially on the road, he has
1:20:40
very bad road rage. And like, I
1:20:42
always beg him, I go, bro, you're going to get shot.
1:20:44
And he's been shot at and he still doesn't change his
1:20:46
thing. Yeah, yeah, the road rage is so much. There's
1:20:50
one time I've seen him change his mind. Now, mind
1:20:53
you, there was one time we're at a
1:20:55
club and this dude is like, I'm
1:20:57
talking. He looks like the Incredible Hulk. And
1:21:00
he's behind my friend Kaveh.
1:21:02
His head is up against a
1:21:04
really sharp end of a, like
1:21:06
this type of thing. And I'm like, if this guy just
1:21:08
hits him one time, he's dead. So
1:21:10
I come up to him and I'm like, listen, dude, like you're
1:21:13
going to lose his fight. He's like, I'm going to go, fuck.
1:21:15
And he's just staring at this dude, chest out and
1:21:17
he will never back away. There's only one time
1:21:19
we've ever walked away. And by the way, I'm never
1:21:21
wanting to fight. I'm just there with my boy and
1:21:24
I'm an idiot. I'm young. So I'm like,
1:21:26
if my boy goes down, now I'm going
1:21:28
down. Now I tell him, I go, I'm telling you
1:21:30
right now, I'm the first one to call him the
1:21:32
cops and I'm showing them where you live. Like I'm
1:21:34
not having this. My girl's waiting for me. I got
1:21:36
to throw the garbage. I got to go. I'm not
1:21:38
a part of this book. He calls me one day,
1:21:40
he's at Old Town Scottsdale in Arizona. Or
1:21:43
I think this is Old Town. I don't know exactly
1:21:45
where the location is. He's cracking up. He's like, I
1:21:47
almost got murdered right now. I go, why? He goes,
1:21:49
I'm at the bar. I'm walking to this club. I'm
1:21:52
trying to meet this chicken. This dude's just looking at
1:21:54
me. And I don't like the way he's looking at
1:21:56
me. So I'm looking at him back and I'm like,
1:21:58
all right, I wonder what this guy. did to scare
1:22:00
this one guy that's been shot at. He had a
1:22:03
body builder almost throw him in the trash can. Like,
1:22:05
who and what did this guy do? He goes, I'm
1:22:07
looking at this guy. And now I'm like, what is
1:22:09
he? And then for a split second, I go, maybe
1:22:11
this guy knows me because I think I know this
1:22:14
guy. So finally he steps up a little closer, and
1:22:16
he's about to be like, what the fuck you looking
1:22:18
at? He goes, I get close,
1:22:20
and the club light hits the dude's face.
1:22:22
He goes, dude, it was Nate Diaz. He
1:22:25
goes, I pretended like I was looking past
1:22:27
him. I
1:22:29
committed to like, he goes, my eyes just shifted
1:22:32
a little past the shoulder, and he just kept
1:22:34
walking. And he goes, Nate was like, I am
1:22:36
thinking that he was coming. He goes, dog, dog,
1:22:38
I pretended that I saw right
1:22:40
through him. And I was like, that's a good choice,
1:22:42
dude, because that would be a bad fight to. But
1:22:44
you guys don't care. Anybody could get the smoke. If
1:22:46
you guys get looked at in a certain way. I
1:22:49
mean, look, nah, you have to violate my
1:22:51
personal space. You look at me weird,
1:22:53
and I take a picture of the last one. But
1:22:56
if I feel threatened, you got a
1:22:59
problem in your hands. And that's if you violate
1:23:01
my personal space, because I don't know you, so
1:23:03
I'm not going to violate your personal space ever.
1:23:05
I'm going to let you chill over there. But if you
1:23:08
start getting that
1:23:10
touching zone, I'll
1:23:13
forgive me. You can't touch. That's
1:23:16
a good way to put it. But don't try to
1:23:19
touch. The way I've been
1:23:21
since a kid, it's like don't let nobody
1:23:24
put their hands on you so you come home. Don't
1:23:26
come home with that black eye. I'll give
1:23:28
you the other black eye. Make sure you give it out
1:23:30
before you come home with that shit. OK, dad. My
1:23:33
dad made me, he raised me in a liquor store.
1:23:37
Let's just say we can lock it from the inside, just in
1:23:39
case people want to try to run away. And
1:23:41
I think that's the, nah, that is
1:23:43
the one thing regret. He always says, he goes,
1:23:45
my biggest regret is putting my son through that.
1:23:48
But I loved it, because
1:23:50
I'll watch my friends mouth
1:23:52
off. And I'm like, man, you really
1:23:55
haven't seen the repercussion of a mouth
1:23:57
that just keeps moving. I've
1:23:59
seen people. people's lives change right in front
1:24:01
of me. It is within
1:24:03
a blink of an eye, and sadly it's
1:24:05
like with people, they don't even remember what
1:24:08
they look like. And so like, I've never
1:24:10
been in situations, thank God, where I'm like,
1:24:12
this is life threatening, but
1:24:15
I mean I have, but it wasn't my fault. But I've
1:24:18
learned from my experience of raised
1:24:20
in a liquor store when I would see these
1:24:23
crazy things happening, or with my friends at a
1:24:25
hookah bar in like the avenues. It's not
1:24:27
a good place to get in trouble. The
1:24:29
same guy, Kaveh, we're at a, this
1:24:32
guy actually, he was mentally just,
1:24:35
he would have a machete tucked in all the
1:24:37
time. And he would pull it out
1:24:39
and just tap things. Oh, he
1:24:41
was a psychopath. But he was a
1:24:43
nice guy. Jason might as well. But he would
1:24:45
just, like a switch, some days
1:24:48
you come up to us, yo what's up? And then
1:24:50
some days we look at him and it's like, oh
1:24:52
we can't talk to him today. Like he's just, nah,
1:24:54
he's not there. And one day we
1:24:56
were walking in, I'll never forget this, it was called Arizona.
1:25:00
And he was just up against the door. And
1:25:04
for some reason, thank God, I guess I'm
1:25:06
just like the really outgoing, nice Christian boy.
1:25:08
So people didn't really like, they
1:25:10
would just be mean to like come after me.
1:25:12
Cause I'm praying for your mother or something. You
1:25:14
know what I mean? Like, you're not going to
1:25:16
come after me. But the loud Persian kid that's
1:25:18
super confident, he's like, get him, get him, right?
1:25:20
And so he walked in, I'll never forget this
1:25:22
bro. I'm standing, I swear to you bro, closer
1:25:24
than this. And he went up and
1:25:27
I'm dapping off, this is how close we are, then I have to go
1:25:29
like this, I go, what up my man? And he goes, what's up dude?
1:25:31
Just daps me up. And Kave
1:25:33
just walks in, bro, I don't even remember
1:25:35
why this happened. Smacked
1:25:38
him so hard across the face.
1:25:41
I was so scared that I was next. Cause I'm like,
1:25:43
we're getting in, the guy in front of me, he's
1:25:46
not moving. I just watched my best friend get smacked.
1:25:48
Now this guy has to be an intimidating man to
1:25:50
smack my best friend in front of me. And me
1:25:52
look at my best friend like, why did you put
1:25:54
us in this situation dude? So
1:25:56
I look at him, I look at this guy and he goes, you guys are not
1:25:59
coming in today. I was like, yes
1:26:01
sir. Dude, the guy smacked him so hard
1:26:03
and for absolutely no reason. So
1:26:05
like, I've been in situations where I'm just like, things
1:26:08
just happen for no reason. Like there's- That's another one
1:26:10
of those moments where you gotta kill me. You
1:26:13
got, you slapped me. That's
1:26:16
what you said. I had to talk him off. Now
1:26:18
you gotta kill me. Nah, so here's the reason why,
1:26:20
bro. Disrespectful. Because obviously that guy's not there. It's a
1:26:22
combination that first, you're gonna trigger the worst trauma. My
1:26:24
mom beating my ass, because in all my 50 fights,
1:26:27
no one's ever whipped my ass harder than my mom. I'm
1:26:30
not even lying. Like being 9'10". And I don't blame
1:26:32
her because she's raising a wild man. My
1:26:35
mom has whipped my ass. So the
1:26:37
slaps, it's like- BTS, the instant fucking,
1:26:39
I'm six years old, seven years old
1:26:41
again. One of us has to go. Lit
1:26:46
straight up. One of us has to go. But
1:26:48
we could both no longer be in like, this
1:26:51
plane right now. We're going for
1:26:53
it right now. And you did it by slapping me, bro. And
1:26:55
I didn't want to do it, but we're going
1:26:57
to town now, you know? And there's too much trauma.
1:26:59
I can't deal with a slap. You
1:27:01
could punch me, I'm gonna punch you back and knock you out.
1:27:03
Okay, but you slapped me? No,
1:27:05
I've been smacked and punched a few times where I'm like,
1:27:07
sorry about it. And I'll just bounce. Cause like, why? Here's
1:27:11
the thing. We have different experiences. You
1:27:13
want to stand on that business. Me, my dad has a
1:27:15
pretty successful business going on. And I want to take that
1:27:17
business from one day. You know what I mean? Like,
1:27:20
I ain't trying to prove, man. I
1:27:22
already got her. I already won, bro. You
1:27:25
smack me, I'll give you the other cheek. Jesus told me to
1:27:27
do it, bro. No, but. So
1:27:30
one thing I can't say nothing about. Okay. It's
1:27:33
like, man, I can't say nothing to
1:27:35
that. Gosh, Jesus, why you
1:27:37
say that literally? You said, slaps, you give him
1:27:39
the other cheek. That is like the hardest one
1:27:42
of the things, you know? I'm working through all the
1:27:44
other ones. It's a constant going battle,
1:27:46
but I'm winning more now than
1:27:48
ever. Amen. No, for a hundred percent. But
1:27:51
that slap, oh boy. It
1:27:53
brings you back. It brings you back. And
1:27:55
I started doing math in my head. If
1:27:57
I get them, it's one for one. And then, come on. You
1:28:00
know, but it's wrong. It's wrong and it really That's
1:28:04
why Jesus is my Lord and Savior because
1:28:06
he never put a knife to anybody's neck
1:28:08
to get him to convert He never used
1:28:10
by I'm complete opposite and you know for
1:28:12
many different reasons, but you're Paul You're
1:28:15
in the stage of the bad part Peter It's
1:28:20
just like in me since a kid and then
1:28:22
the environment to it just like Polish
1:28:24
it up a little bit more like if you
1:28:26
if you let somebody slap you right? This
1:28:29
is what happens usually there as I was growing up now
1:28:31
you come to school on Monday thing you
1:28:33
freshers and I like Nice shoes. What size
1:28:35
are they? You know Nah,
1:28:38
what do you mean? What's up? I can slap
1:28:40
the end and taking your shoes off and this
1:28:42
is my I'm not gonna deal with that
1:28:44
and I learned that a young age if I let I Step
1:28:48
on me and step on me like a cigarette But
1:28:50
if if I check you right at
1:28:52
the front door you can chill right there You can find somebody
1:28:54
else to do it out or you might even stop all together,
1:28:57
you know, so And
1:29:07
I start lying to myself because What's
1:29:10
the one miracle even atheists could agree on
1:29:12
the Jesus did let's see if you notice
1:29:15
the one miracle Jesus
1:29:17
that atheist believe that Jesus did
1:29:20
raised from the dead I feel like they wouldn't believe that
1:29:22
because they don't believe one miracle He
1:29:24
turned water into wine because they want to party.
1:29:27
I don't even is this a riddle. What's the
1:29:29
real? It's a real question. They believe in atheist
1:29:31
could agree on this miracle They
1:29:40
got a nice ice cream shop over there if y'all get it right
1:29:42
some me Okay The
1:29:45
one miracle that even atheist
1:29:49
could agree on That
1:29:51
he was loving a miracle. That's a miracle.
1:29:53
Let me just say it or you go one more
1:29:55
time I feel like you guys got as a team
1:29:57
you guys got it. You guys got it, right? No,
1:30:00
no checking Google you can't
1:30:02
actually An
1:30:08
atheist believes that Jesus did this miracle
1:30:13
He said I don't know what is it
1:30:16
he said give on to Caesar where the
1:30:18
Caesars and give To God was from the
1:30:20
kingdom of God and right then in their church and stay
1:30:22
got separated Atheists
1:30:24
could agree on that as well I
1:30:29
Do you want to be the new co-host bro, I
1:30:31
like this vibe so listen with this vibe so
1:30:33
then I start messing with myself I go wow
1:30:37
She's right if you said that right
1:30:39
and not this dude slapped me. I'm
1:30:41
just doing what Don't
1:30:44
get mad at me. You know, but
1:30:46
it doesn't work like that. You know, it's it's it's I'll
1:30:49
say this when I was going through something
1:30:53
I there I was always questioning why
1:30:55
I was going through it and so
1:30:57
embarrassingly in front of people and I
1:31:01
had a lot of people messaged me that they
1:31:03
saw Jesus in me when I didn't Retaliate
1:31:06
in anger or emotions and then
1:31:08
people would call me out whenever I get emotional
1:31:10
and like hey, bro That ain't you cut that
1:31:13
out and I realized you could see a lot
1:31:15
more of Jesus in
1:31:17
a human being when they do something that
1:31:19
just dumb founds you like that guy just
1:31:21
smacked you and you were like Oh,
1:31:23
it's okay. It's totally fine Because
1:31:26
that's puzzling because even if I have no God
1:31:28
you put your hands on me I'm
1:31:31
calling Jorge Masvidal and calling
1:31:33
you a communist a good call You know I'm saying like
1:31:35
I it's a good call But like
1:31:37
when somebody sees an action and they're
1:31:40
like and I so that I understand
1:31:42
now why? That's what happened
1:31:44
to Paul It all started when
1:31:46
he saw a Christian being killed and
1:31:48
just the way he was talking right before he
1:31:50
got killed They just opened up his heart his
1:31:52
mind. He's like how could somebody believe
1:31:54
in something this much? So
1:31:56
in the next time you get smacked just know that
1:31:58
you might turn somebody Christian if you turned out like a kid. Oh
1:32:01
my God, man, don't put that in the universe now. You
1:32:05
know how many times I've seen street preachers getting
1:32:08
slapped and they're just... They're holding their
1:32:10
ground? No, they're just, I'ma
1:32:13
pray for you my brother. I love you, God
1:32:15
bless. I am like, man, God bless you. That
1:32:17
is like, wow. Look at Bishop
1:32:19
Maramari. Oh my gosh, that is crazy.
1:32:21
And he's like, he lost his eyebrow. I know,
1:32:23
and I'm here talking about me getting slapped. I'ma
1:32:25
go to war and this poor gentleman,
1:32:28
it's nothing but spreading the word and doing good,
1:32:30
literally loses his eye. And all he could do
1:32:32
is pray for this guy. Like if it was
1:32:34
his mother, brother, sister. You know what broke my
1:32:36
heart, bro? So he's
1:32:39
an Assyrian man. And like every
1:32:41
culture, you know, there's
1:32:45
separation in the culture, right? Oh,
1:32:47
he's this and the type of Assyrian and this type of Assyrian.
1:32:50
But I had a few Assyrians come up to me and they'd be like,
1:32:52
bro, I don't even believe that he lost his eye. I think he's covering
1:32:54
it. And I'm like, damn, for
1:32:56
you to just lie and go and like tell
1:32:58
people to believe that lie. It's not
1:33:00
only that he lost his eye and he's so gracious about
1:33:02
it. I mean, you could see that when it's in slow
1:33:04
motion, the thing's not open, but he hits him in the
1:33:06
eye. Yeah. It's like, man. And bro, he
1:33:08
was praying on him right when he got hit. So dude,
1:33:11
the guy got hit in the eye. His eye's hurting, like
1:33:13
really bad. Cause you even said, if you get hit in
1:33:15
the eye, it's the worst pain. This guy got stabbed, nah.
1:33:17
And then immediately he starts praying over him. But people would
1:33:19
be like, nah, bro, that's fake. And I'm like, dang, bro.
1:33:21
You could really do the greatest thing in the world He
1:33:25
lives in a different spiritual realm.
1:33:27
Like he's something else. Have you
1:33:29
met him? No, I haven't. But I would love to just
1:33:31
shake his hand and like. I'm gonna be doing a podcast
1:33:33
with him. Oh my God. I think it would be very
1:33:35
interesting for you to be a part of that podcast. I
1:33:37
just like shake his hand and be a fly. That would
1:33:39
be a very different world. I just hang out in the
1:33:41
wall and just like a fly. I just chill out, watch
1:33:44
her do things. You're like an earthly fighter and he's a
1:33:46
spiritual fighter. And just like, ah, yeah, yeah.
1:33:48
He's like different though, man. I mean, he's just like,
1:33:51
you know, it's a lot, you know.
1:33:53
And not just that, but he's had like a lot of
1:33:55
moments too where I'm like, man. You know, and I also
1:33:57
like that he does speak firm, that he
1:33:59
does say. as a Christian things that
1:34:01
we should be holding from that you can't forgive and
1:34:03
give the devil an inch on you know so it's
1:34:05
definitely somebody that I freaking look up to
1:34:08
your back yeah you know and then after that it's
1:34:10
like I just can't even put him into words like
1:34:12
man that is that
1:34:14
is beyond shouting monk discipline this is something else
1:34:16
like this guy has never had a potato chip
1:34:19
like how could you do that you know you
1:34:21
just lost your eye and immediately instead of like
1:34:23
worrying about your eyeball oh am I gonna we
1:34:25
start praying for you like do you know the
1:34:27
type of pain he must have been in his
1:34:31
spirit is so strong and so tied with
1:34:33
God he's not it's like
1:34:35
you know like us as humans like when something happens to
1:34:37
you you think like okay what would I do what would
1:34:39
I do you like rely on yourself and then if you
1:34:41
take a moment then you realize okay no like this is
1:34:43
the brow need to take because this is what God would
1:34:46
want me to do but he's so tied with him that
1:34:48
he doesn't even need to take the second to think about
1:34:50
it it's just natural for him and
1:34:52
like that's like and how many how
1:34:54
many non-christians
1:34:57
saw that and immediately said
1:34:59
hold up why hold
1:35:01
up that is mm-hmm that is what we were
1:35:03
talking about bro that is exactly why Jesus is
1:35:05
acting why didn't he why didn't he call the
1:35:07
cop why didn't he know why why did he
1:35:09
just start praying over me if you just analyze
1:35:11
that for a second man the
1:35:14
power of prayer he's like I don't need anybody
1:35:16
else let's pull it back imagine being killed being
1:35:19
an innocent man on a cross and
1:35:21
right before you die you're watching
1:35:23
like they're booing at him and they're spitting
1:35:25
on him they're disrespecting Jesus and while he's
1:35:27
on the cross imagine what it did to
1:35:29
the people's heart that watch this man say
1:35:31
God forgive them they don't know if
1:35:34
I was angry at somebody and we
1:35:37
just got done pulling his beard out stabbing
1:35:39
him spitting on him disrespecting him and in
1:35:41
his last breath he prays for me bro
1:35:44
that's gonna make me think a bit
1:35:47
no you're gonna you're gonna do number two
1:35:49
yourself and go you know I fucked up
1:35:51
just like that Roman when he saw me
1:35:53
here he fell down man I had this
1:35:55
you know or how about if
1:35:58
you were the dude that was on the cross about
1:36:00
to go to hell and then you
1:36:02
just meet Jesus right there. Isn't
1:36:04
that like the greatest? He says don't forget
1:36:06
me man. Don't forget me and that's he's
1:36:08
like I want. And that is like the
1:36:10
greatest get out of jail free card ever
1:36:12
of life. Like you literally about to die
1:36:15
and you probably did some fucked up shit.
1:36:17
So you know where you're going but you
1:36:19
met Jesus at that moment. That's
1:36:21
cool man. I love that moment because that
1:36:24
moment is so powerful because a lot of
1:36:27
Christians, Catholics and any other type of
1:36:29
religion, they like to provide their work
1:36:32
in between God's work. Like I got to heaven
1:36:35
because of my works here and because God saved
1:36:37
me. But that showed us right
1:36:39
there. That man couldn't even move. He
1:36:41
couldn't go down and get baptized. He couldn't go
1:36:43
donate to the poor. He couldn't go change his
1:36:46
ways. But in that moment
1:36:48
he identified who God was. And
1:36:51
to me it's like that could solve so
1:36:53
many problems bro. You just got to identify.
1:36:56
Me and you can have just a spiritual, we
1:36:58
should just have like a, we should get together
1:37:00
one day to have a podcast. Like just our
1:37:02
favorite Bible verses and what it's helped us. You
1:37:05
know what I saw the other day? Because
1:37:08
you know, I'll have like discussions like this.
1:37:10
I like not, I
1:37:13
guess like a debate or whatever but I do
1:37:15
like talking to people without disrespecting each other. Like
1:37:17
let's be so cool. You respect me. If we
1:37:19
talk about something touchy, you know. Obviously not me
1:37:21
and you because we got a lot of same
1:37:23
viewpoints and more but like people with different religions
1:37:25
are like atheists. And I'm
1:37:27
always like, hey, listen, man I'm not doing this because I
1:37:30
want you to come to my church and donate. I'm
1:37:32
just doing it because it could
1:37:34
improve your life drastically. It's just like,
1:37:39
I really agree that this is like the best thing
1:37:41
that you could do. And I'll tell people that, you
1:37:43
know. And then I'll talk and stuff. And then I
1:37:45
was talking to the other day and I went
1:37:47
back and looked stuff up. And
1:37:50
you know that there was 40 historians or
1:37:52
40 different historians. A lot of them
1:37:54
weren't Christian. They wrote about Jesus, like
1:37:57
40 different historians. This is a carpenter.
1:38:00
Right that was born into like a
1:38:02
broke family and yeah, you know until
1:38:04
his ministry then he took off
1:38:06
the meters But there's 40 of them the Emperor during
1:38:08
the time of Jesus, you know how many scholars wrote
1:38:10
about him? eight That's
1:38:13
freaking crazy. Like they they must have
1:38:15
been something so powerful about this guy
1:38:18
that everybody you like non Christian
1:38:20
historians were writing about him, you know in his
1:38:22
travels and everything in the movement that he was
1:38:24
doing It's like it's crazy. How do you how
1:38:27
do you if it was a now date?
1:38:30
Thing in court be slam dunk Jesus
1:38:32
lived and died on the cross There'd be no way to
1:38:34
debunk it or nothing like that, you know, and the proof
1:38:36
is all there You just got to like want to look
1:38:38
for it Anybody
1:38:41
who wants to search for God will find God
1:38:43
Yeah if you don't know who God is
1:38:45
is because you don't want to see God and That's
1:38:48
a hard pill to swallow because a lot of atheists or a lot
1:38:50
of other people be like how dare you say that? All
1:38:52
right, but it's like I can't hide you from
1:38:54
the truth and the truth is you didn't welcome
1:38:56
him He's a gentleman. He'll enter your life when
1:38:58
you welcome him into your life That's
1:39:01
why he says the eyes that want to see and
1:39:03
the ears that want to hear because
1:39:05
you get a bias in ears all day All
1:39:07
day, but you don't want to you don't want to listen to him And
1:39:10
it's crazy because like there what the reason why you're
1:39:12
passionate and you told that man I don't want you
1:39:14
coming to my church and donating is
1:39:17
because a real Christian man who goes out and
1:39:19
tries to Convert is
1:39:22
because it's kind of like I This
1:39:24
how I could put it my whole life
1:39:26
was crazy terrible without Jesus crazy
1:39:29
terrible My problems were so heightened my
1:39:31
like just everything was gross and dark
1:39:34
And then when I find Jesus everything gets
1:39:37
healed and everything is blossoming and everything is
1:39:39
endless and so fruitful and I have an
1:39:42
Undeniable endless supply of it. Why
1:39:44
would I not run and shake my neighbors and be like brother?
1:39:47
Not only can we eat off this plate, but it's
1:39:49
like eight planets worth. It's like it's miracle water You
1:39:51
got a drink you got a drink it like why
1:39:53
wouldn't you if you if you could cure a man
1:39:55
from his sickness? I think
1:39:57
it would be more evil to look at a man who's going through
1:40:00
and just be like, all right,
1:40:02
that's his choice. But it's like, bro, the reason I
1:40:04
talk about Jesus is because I'm absolutely, one, head over
1:40:06
heels for him. I love him. But two, it's like,
1:40:09
I can't give you anything that's gonna heal you,
1:40:12
but I could give you someone that could heal
1:40:14
you, and that someone is Jesus
1:40:16
Christ. Amen. I
1:40:19
feel like we should end it here. I feel like this is
1:40:22
a perfect knockout, bro. Great message,
1:40:24
brother. I really appreciate your
1:40:26
time. I appreciate your people. Thank you
1:40:28
so much for coming. Dude,
1:40:31
I would love to run another episode of this. Dude,
1:40:34
having the bishop here will be such
1:40:37
a fun podcast. And it
1:40:39
would be so left field. People are like, what?
1:40:41
Who are you, Masvidal, George Janko, and the bishop?
1:40:45
Sign me up. Thanks for watching, guys. Make
1:40:47
sure you like and subscribe, and I will see you
1:40:49
guys next week.
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