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The first round of France’s parliamentary elections and the US presidential debate

The first round of France’s parliamentary elections and the US presidential debate

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The first round of France’s parliamentary elections and the US presidential debate

The first round of France’s parliamentary elections and the US presidential debate

The first round of France’s parliamentary elections and the US presidential debate

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Friday, 28th June 2024
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2:00

in Slovakia. And schools in

2:02

the US state of Oklahoma have been ordered

2:04

to incorporate the Bible into their lessons. Stay

2:06

tuned to Monocle Radio throughout the day for

2:09

more on these stories. But

2:11

first, how loudly are the far right

2:13

knocking at the gates of power in

2:15

France? This weekend, a nation

2:17

shocked into voting in unexpected parliamentary elections

2:19

could deliver an even bigger shock, if

2:22

the polls are correct, by handing up

2:24

to 35% of its votes to Marine

2:26

Le Pen's

2:28

national rally. And not just that, second

2:30

place is expected to go to a

2:33

left-wing alliance with the centrist party of

2:35

President Emmanuel Macron, trailing at around 20%.

2:38

Well, I'm joined now by the journalist and writer, Christine

2:41

Ocrant. Very good morning to you, Christine. Good

2:43

morning, Emma. In all your experience, have you ever

2:46

seen anything like this in terms of the way

2:48

that France is reshaping itself? No,

2:50

it's an absolute shock.

2:52

And people are really in disarray,

2:54

because whatever political

2:57

opinions may be, the

3:00

shock of Macron's

3:02

decision, which was totally unexpected,

3:04

even if his own political

3:07

party did very poorly at

3:09

the European elections, the

3:11

fact that we have the Olympic

3:13

games coming up in

3:16

less than three weeks. And

3:19

the idea that the extreme

3:21

right could

3:23

very legitimately be

3:26

running the country with

3:28

a prime minister, 28-year-old

3:31

Jordan Bardella, who has

3:33

never held any

3:35

other job other than

3:38

the party job, it's quite

3:41

something. And overall,

3:45

people are really, really shocked.

3:48

There is a real sense that there

3:50

will be a very high turnout this

3:52

weekend, because it has absolutely spurred France

3:55

into political consciousness, hasn't it? Well,

3:58

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54:26

to Paris, where Monocle has just opened

54:28

a new bureau in the Marais. Monocle's

54:30

editor-in-chief Andrew Tuck sat down with our

54:32

deputy head of radio Tom Webb to

54:35

talk about the exciting new addition. Tom

54:37

began by asking Andrew why it had

54:39

to be in the City of Light.

54:41

Well, Paris has always been important to

54:43

Monocle, but I think over the last

54:45

few years we've just seen a growth

54:48

in interest in stories coming out

54:50

of France for our readers. So whether

54:53

it's the music industry, whether it's museums

54:55

and culture, architecture, design, just

54:57

so many stories hitting page in Monocle

55:00

and being told here on the radio

55:02

as well, that we realized

55:04

it was time to make a bigger commitment there.

55:07

We're also a business. I'll be clear that

55:09

the decision where we build up big offices

55:12

is also because we have

55:14

partners in those cities. So we have

55:16

done a huge amount of work with

55:18

amazing partners in France, many

55:21

on the fashion brand side, for example, but also

55:23

at a city level, that

55:25

we also felt this was a good time to be there. Just

55:28

for example, we've just done a great companion, one

55:30

of these paperback books that goes on to newsstand,

55:32

50 essays, and

55:34

it was done in partnership with Saint-Gobain,

55:36

which is one of these amazing, huge

55:38

French companies that does a huge amount

55:40

of building materials, helps build our cities,

55:42

is behind many of the skyscrapers and the

55:44

projects you see being raised

55:46

from the ground. So lots of reasons

55:48

to be there. And as I

55:51

think a few people may have noticed, there's one or

55:53

two stories hitting the headlines of late that also make

55:55

it a good news gathering spot. And

55:57

let's talk about one of those headlines. to

56:00

the Olympics, now Monocle Radio is going

56:02

to be there for two weeks for

56:04

full coverage. How has the magazine touched

56:06

on the Olympics so far? Well,

56:09

we've done a few things in the run

56:12

up to the games. We're always interested in

56:14

the crossover between sporting events

56:16

and soft power. So we've looked at

56:18

some of the athletes attending these games

56:21

and what it means for their nations

56:23

to have a sportsman or

56:25

woman competing there in

56:27

Paris. We've also been trying to look at

56:30

what the legacy will be for these games. And

56:32

not only in Paris, in the current issue we

56:34

have, we returned to Munich actually

56:36

to look at a piece of legacy

56:38

there with the athletes stadium and how it became

56:40

a place where people really want to live in

56:42

that city. So trying to touch on what legacy

56:44

will mean for Paris. And

56:46

over time we've been out of the centre, we've been

56:49

to Saint Denis to look at the

56:51

work being done there. So again, as

56:53

outsiders when we go to Paris or

56:55

any city, it's very easy to be

56:58

seduced. But when you go to the outskirts, when

57:00

you go to the Bolognese,

57:02

you see that there are many communities

57:04

that need a helping hand. And

57:06

actually there is one piece of legacy.

57:09

They're not building many buildings for the

57:11

Paris games, but they're building this amazing

57:13

aquatic centre. And in the neighbourhood

57:15

around there in Saint Denis, the hope is

57:17

that this will give people pride, it will

57:20

give people job opportunities, it will help revitalise

57:22

a space that needs it. So

57:25

beyond our editorial coverage, what

57:27

is Monocle's new physical commitment

57:29

to Paris going forward? Physical,

57:32

I think it's looked good and handsome,

57:34

hey? Sorry, that'd be my physical

57:37

commitment. It might take a little bit of effort. We've

57:40

been doing that for years already. We're

57:43

going to start, we're at the starting

57:45

point. So we have just literally cut the

57:47

ribbon on a new office, which is

57:49

just on the edge of the Marais.

57:52

And it's a compact office, but we're going to

57:54

have a bureau chief there. We're

57:56

going to have one or two of our staff here

57:58

from London who are relocated. to Paris. And

58:01

we're also going to have a commercial presence

58:03

there as well. So we'll have a nice

58:06

squad there. But we have

58:08

big ambitions for Paris and the estate

58:11

agents and the realtors of Paris are

58:13

already being called up because we

58:16

hope in the coming months to announce a much

58:18

bigger presence in the city that

58:20

will hopefully include retail, a radio studio

58:22

so we can do stuff like this

58:24

in Paris and also a space

58:27

for the cafe as well. So we

58:29

want to be there not

58:32

behind closed doors, but we want to

58:34

be there with a welcoming mat in

58:36

Paris as well, because it's worked super

58:38

well for us in Zurich at Dufourstrasse.

58:41

And there you see the kind

58:44

of the life that begins to evolve around a

58:46

great bureau. And here in London too, when you

58:48

see the cafe, the cafe

58:50

is a place to go and get a coffee. But

58:53

the number of people you bump into who have come

58:55

to see that cafe because they want

58:57

to be part of the Monaco world and they want to hear

59:00

what we're doing, see what we're doing. And

59:03

that's the ambition for Paris as well. Monaco's

59:05

Andrew Tuck there in conversation with Tom Webb.

59:07

The time here in London is 7.53 time.

59:10

Now for a quick look at film and the world

59:12

of cinema with the critic Karen Krasenovich. She joins me

59:15

in the studio now. Good morning. Welcome back, Karen. Well,

59:18

we've got a fast look at

59:21

Isabelle-Upere winning the Lumiere prize. Tell us

59:23

a little bit more about it. Just

59:25

to explain the legend of Isabelle-Upere, for

59:28

people who haven't encountered

59:30

this woman with this as

59:32

astonishing sort of canon

59:34

of brilliant French films and the American ones

59:36

too. She's now been given

59:38

the Lumiere award. Yeah, absolutely.

59:40

And she's 71, although you

59:42

wouldn't know it when I saw her in the

59:45

Catwalk red carpet, excuse me, as

59:47

a Freudian slip. She's

59:49

been working on, well, she's got

59:51

156 acting credits to

59:54

her name. She's worked with auteurs

59:56

from the French New Wave to

59:59

Asian cinema. to European

1:00:01

cinema and American independence. She's

1:00:03

a favorite of directors all over the

1:00:05

place. And the New York Times actually

1:00:07

said that she's second in

1:00:10

the list of best actors

1:00:12

of all time. It is incredible that actually when

1:00:14

you do, when you think of best

1:00:16

actors of all time, one immediately

1:00:18

gravitates towards Hollywood. Yeah, France has

1:00:20

produced Isabelle Uppah, that we still

1:00:23

have to explain who she is

1:00:25

to lots and lots of viewers.

1:00:27

Well, you will have

1:00:29

seen her, but you may

1:00:32

not have recognized her. She's known for her

1:00:34

portrayals of sort of cold women who have

1:00:36

no morality. So if you see somebody like

1:00:38

that who speaks French, one

1:00:41

of the greatest actresses of all time,

1:00:43

of course, is 16 nominations and two

1:00:46

wins. She's got César, BAFTA, Lumiere, Berlin

1:00:48

Awards, nominations at Cannes, Golden Globe,

1:00:50

and an Academy Award nomination as well. And

1:00:53

it's difficult. Everybody's got

1:00:56

their favorite Isabelle

1:00:58

Uppah movie, if you know of her.

1:01:00

She's quite petite. She's got an angular

1:01:02

face, and she also has a lot

1:01:04

of freckles. So a lot of people

1:01:06

go, oh, it's the lady with the freckles. And the

1:01:09

relevance to the Lumiere Festival in Lyon, it's a sort

1:01:11

of classic film festival, isn't it? It

1:01:15

is. I mean, since 2009,

1:01:17

they've been giving an award for a cinema

1:01:20

personality for the entire body of their work.

1:01:22

And at this point, Isabelle Uppah

1:01:24

has been, she

1:01:26

was born in 1953, and she has worked for

1:01:29

several films virtually every year of her

1:01:31

career. So it's really quite incredible.

1:01:33

But the range of what she can do is

1:01:35

what's really astonishing. Let's talk a little bit about,

1:01:38

I mean, she's not that long

1:01:40

since there was a sort of terrible incident

1:01:42

involving Singapore Airlines, and already they're making a

1:01:44

documentary about it. I mean, this is, this

1:01:47

is called, I think what was described as

1:01:49

a fast turnaround. What's all this about? Fast

1:01:51

turnaround, yeah. Well, okay. There's

1:01:54

a Singapore Airlines turbulence

1:01:56

documentary that is

1:01:58

being funded now by by several

1:02:00

different TV companies across the world,

1:02:02

Australian, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and

1:02:04

the UK, as well as in

1:02:06

Belgium and Switzerland, are

1:02:09

all adding money into this

1:02:11

documentary about the tragic turbulence

1:02:14

issue that happened in Singapore Airlines

1:02:17

in February of this year, where

1:02:20

one person died of heart attack, and

1:02:22

then there was a UK man who

1:02:24

was left with life-changing injuries from

1:02:27

this. And I think it's because there's

1:02:29

a fascination with true life

1:02:31

horror, and also the fact that turbulence

1:02:33

is supposed to be increasing now due

1:02:36

to climate change. It's interesting, I know

1:02:38

that in the Nelson household, there is

1:02:40

quite a lot of those documentaries

1:02:43

about terrible things happening in the air.

1:02:45

They seem to be a perpetual favorite

1:02:47

on the screens in our lounge. There

1:02:50

is that fascination, isn't there? Especially with things

1:02:52

like the Boeing 737-800 scandal, then

1:02:56

we have the MH17 scandal. And

1:02:59

what is always amazing is you have

1:03:01

these strange theories that are

1:03:03

posited to explain exactly what happened,

1:03:05

and then that just sort of

1:03:07

becomes dissipated in dreadful conversations over

1:03:09

dinner. It does, with the

1:03:11

Singapore Airlines, it's one of those things

1:03:13

that you hope that clear-headed and factual

1:03:15

contributors are going to be included in

1:03:17

this, rather than wild conspiracy theorists. I

1:03:19

hope with the amount of money and

1:03:21

the amount of interest it's getting, I

1:03:23

think it's going to have to be

1:03:25

quite factual. Although what I

1:03:27

suspect will happen is that the factual

1:03:30

one will come out first, sort of

1:03:32

like the Thai cave boys

1:03:34

being stuck, and also the

1:03:36

miners in South America that were stuck. We

1:03:38

waited a long time for those movies. This

1:03:40

one we're not having to wait for. So

1:03:42

I think we'll get the documentary, and then

1:03:44

we'll get a fictional version right after this.

1:03:46

And we have the glorious knowledge that everyone

1:03:48

filmed it happening as well. So the movie

1:03:50

is made immediately. I mean, that really changes

1:03:52

the way things are done there, absolutely. I

1:03:54

mean, this plane dropped 176 feet in four

1:03:56

seconds, and Bradley Richard, who's the UK man

1:03:58

who was left with six friends. and his

1:04:00

spine. I'm sure he's not going to be

1:04:02

entertained by this film, but he did say

1:04:04

it was right out of a movie. Karen

1:04:07

Krasunovich, thank you so much for joining us

1:04:09

on Monocle Radio. You're listening to The Globalist

1:04:11

and that's all the time we have for

1:04:13

today's programme. The warmest of thanks to all

1:04:15

my guests and to our producers too, Laura

1:04:17

Kramer and Tom Webb. Our research was George

1:04:19

Ruskin and our studio manager, Mariela Bevan, with

1:04:21

editing assistance from Lily Austin. After the headlines,

1:04:23

there's more music on the way. The briefing

1:04:25

is live at midday here in London. Hope

1:04:27

you can join me for that if you

1:04:30

can and The Globalist is back at the

1:04:32

same time on Monday. But for now from

1:04:34

me, Emma Nelson. Goodbye, thank you very much

1:04:36

for listening and have a great weekend. you

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