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in Slovakia. And schools in
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the US state of Oklahoma have been ordered
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to incorporate the Bible into their lessons. Stay
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tuned to Monocle Radio throughout the day for
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more on these stories. But
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first, how loudly are the far right
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knocking at the gates of power in
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France? This weekend, a nation
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shocked into voting in unexpected parliamentary elections
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could deliver an even bigger shock, if
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the polls are correct, by handing up
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to 35% of its votes to Marine
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Le Pen's
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national rally. And not just that, second
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place is expected to go to a
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left-wing alliance with the centrist party of
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President Emmanuel Macron, trailing at around 20%.
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Well, I'm joined now by the journalist and writer, Christine
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Ocrant. Very good morning to you, Christine. Good
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morning, Emma. In all your experience, have you ever
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seen anything like this in terms of the way
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that France is reshaping itself? No,
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it's an absolute shock.
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And people are really in disarray,
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because whatever political
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opinions may be, the
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shock of Macron's
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decision, which was totally unexpected,
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even if his own political
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party did very poorly at
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the European elections, the
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fact that we have the Olympic
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games coming up in
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less than three weeks. And
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the idea that the extreme
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right could
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very legitimately be
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running the country with
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a prime minister, 28-year-old
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Jordan Bardella, who has
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never held any
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other job other than
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the party job, it's quite
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something. And overall,
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people are really, really shocked.
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There is a real sense that there
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will be a very high turnout this
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weekend, because it has absolutely spurred France
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into political consciousness, hasn't it? Well,
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to Paris, where Monocle has just opened
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a new bureau in the Marais. Monocle's
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editor-in-chief Andrew Tuck sat down with our
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deputy head of radio Tom Webb to
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talk about the exciting new addition. Tom
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began by asking Andrew why it had
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to be in the City of Light.
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Well, Paris has always been important to
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Monocle, but I think over the last
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few years we've just seen a growth
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in interest in stories coming out
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of France for our readers. So whether
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it's the music industry, whether it's museums
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and culture, architecture, design, just
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so many stories hitting page in Monocle
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and being told here on the radio
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as well, that we realized
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it was time to make a bigger commitment there.
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We're also a business. I'll be clear that
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the decision where we build up big offices
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is also because we have
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partners in those cities. So we have
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done a huge amount of work with
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amazing partners in France, many
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on the fashion brand side, for example, but also
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at a city level, that
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we also felt this was a good time to be there. Just
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for example, we've just done a great companion, one
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of these paperback books that goes on to newsstand,
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50 essays, and
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it was done in partnership with Saint-Gobain,
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which is one of these amazing, huge
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French companies that does a huge amount
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of building materials, helps build our cities,
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is behind many of the skyscrapers and the
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projects you see being raised
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from the ground. So lots of reasons
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to be there. And as I
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think a few people may have noticed, there's one or
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two stories hitting the headlines of late that also make
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it a good news gathering spot. And
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let's talk about one of those headlines. to
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the Olympics, now Monocle Radio is going
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to be there for two weeks for
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full coverage. How has the magazine touched
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on the Olympics so far? Well,
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we've done a few things in the run
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up to the games. We're always interested in
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the crossover between sporting events
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and soft power. So we've looked at
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some of the athletes attending these games
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and what it means for their nations
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to have a sportsman or
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woman competing there in
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Paris. We've also been trying to look at
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what the legacy will be for these games. And
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not only in Paris, in the current issue we
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have, we returned to Munich actually
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to look at a piece of legacy
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there with the athletes stadium and how it became
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a place where people really want to live in
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that city. So trying to touch on what legacy
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will mean for Paris. And
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over time we've been out of the centre, we've been
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to Saint Denis to look at the
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work being done there. So again, as
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outsiders when we go to Paris or
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any city, it's very easy to be
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seduced. But when you go to the outskirts, when
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you go to the Bolognese,
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you see that there are many communities
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that need a helping hand. And
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actually there is one piece of legacy.
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They're not building many buildings for the
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Paris games, but they're building this amazing
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aquatic centre. And in the neighbourhood
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around there in Saint Denis, the hope is
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that this will give people pride, it will
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give people job opportunities, it will help revitalise
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a space that needs it. So
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beyond our editorial coverage, what
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is Monocle's new physical commitment
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to Paris going forward? Physical,
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I think it's looked good and handsome,
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hey? Sorry, that'd be my physical
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commitment. It might take a little bit of effort. We've
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been doing that for years already. We're
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going to start, we're at the starting
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point. So we have just literally cut the
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ribbon on a new office, which is
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just on the edge of the Marais.
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And it's a compact office, but we're going to
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have a bureau chief there. We're
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going to have one or two of our staff here
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from London who are relocated. to Paris. And
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we're also going to have a commercial presence
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there as well. So we'll have a nice
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squad there. But we have
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big ambitions for Paris and the estate
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agents and the realtors of Paris are
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already being called up because we
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hope in the coming months to announce a much
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bigger presence in the city that
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will hopefully include retail, a radio studio
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so we can do stuff like this
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in Paris and also a space
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for the cafe as well. So we
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want to be there not
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behind closed doors, but we want to
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be there with a welcoming mat in
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Paris as well, because it's worked super
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well for us in Zurich at Dufourstrasse.
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And there you see the kind
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of the life that begins to evolve around a
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great bureau. And here in London too, when you
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see the cafe, the cafe
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is a place to go and get a coffee. But
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the number of people you bump into who have come
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to see that cafe because they want
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to be part of the Monaco world and they want to hear
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what we're doing, see what we're doing. And
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that's the ambition for Paris as well. Monaco's
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Andrew Tuck there in conversation with Tom Webb.
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The time here in London is 7.53 time.
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Now for a quick look at film and the world
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of cinema with the critic Karen Krasenovich. She joins me
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in the studio now. Good morning. Welcome back, Karen. Well,
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we've got a fast look at
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Isabelle-Upere winning the Lumiere prize. Tell us
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a little bit more about it. Just
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to explain the legend of Isabelle-Upere, for
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people who haven't encountered
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this woman with this as
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astonishing sort of canon
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of brilliant French films and the American ones
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too. She's now been given
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the Lumiere award. Yeah, absolutely.
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And she's 71, although you
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wouldn't know it when I saw her in the
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Catwalk red carpet, excuse me, as
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a Freudian slip. She's
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been working on, well, she's got
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156 acting credits to
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her name. She's worked with auteurs
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from the French New Wave to
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Asian cinema. to European
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cinema and American independence. She's
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a favorite of directors all over the
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place. And the New York Times actually
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said that she's second in
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the list of best actors
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of all time. It is incredible that actually when
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you do, when you think of best
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actors of all time, one immediately
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gravitates towards Hollywood. Yeah, France has
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produced Isabelle Uppah, that we still
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have to explain who she is
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to lots and lots of viewers.
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Well, you will have
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seen her, but you may
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not have recognized her. She's known for her
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portrayals of sort of cold women who have
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no morality. So if you see somebody like
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that who speaks French, one
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of the greatest actresses of all time,
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of course, is 16 nominations and two
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wins. She's got César, BAFTA, Lumiere, Berlin
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Awards, nominations at Cannes, Golden Globe,
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and an Academy Award nomination as well. And
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it's difficult. Everybody's got
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their favorite Isabelle
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Uppah movie, if you know of her.
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She's quite petite. She's got an angular
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face, and she also has a lot
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of freckles. So a lot of people
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go, oh, it's the lady with the freckles. And the
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relevance to the Lumiere Festival in Lyon, it's a sort
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of classic film festival, isn't it? It
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is. I mean, since 2009,
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they've been giving an award for a cinema
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personality for the entire body of their work.
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And at this point, Isabelle Uppah
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has been, she
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was born in 1953, and she has worked for
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several films virtually every year of her
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career. So it's really quite incredible.
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But the range of what she can do is
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what's really astonishing. Let's talk a little bit about,
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I mean, she's not that long
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since there was a sort of terrible incident
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involving Singapore Airlines, and already they're making a
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documentary about it. I mean, this is, this
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is called, I think what was described as
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a fast turnaround. What's all this about? Fast
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turnaround, yeah. Well, okay. There's
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a Singapore Airlines turbulence
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documentary that is
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being funded now by by several
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different TV companies across the world,
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Australian, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and
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the UK, as well as in
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Belgium and Switzerland, are
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all adding money into this
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documentary about the tragic turbulence
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issue that happened in Singapore Airlines
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in February of this year, where
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one person died of heart attack, and
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then there was a UK man who
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was left with life-changing injuries from
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this. And I think it's because there's
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a fascination with true life
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horror, and also the fact that turbulence
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is supposed to be increasing now due
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to climate change. It's interesting, I know
1:02:38
that in the Nelson household, there is
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quite a lot of those documentaries
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about terrible things happening in the air.
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They seem to be a perpetual favorite
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on the screens in our lounge. There
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is that fascination, isn't there? Especially with things
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like the Boeing 737-800 scandal, then
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we have the MH17 scandal. And
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what is always amazing is you have
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these strange theories that are
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posited to explain exactly what happened,
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and then that just sort of
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becomes dissipated in dreadful conversations over
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dinner. It does, with the
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Singapore Airlines, it's one of those things
1:03:13
that you hope that clear-headed and factual
1:03:15
contributors are going to be included in
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this, rather than wild conspiracy theorists. I
1:03:19
hope with the amount of money and
1:03:21
the amount of interest it's getting, I
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think it's going to have to be
1:03:25
quite factual. Although what I
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suspect will happen is that the factual
1:03:30
one will come out first, sort of
1:03:32
like the Thai cave boys
1:03:34
being stuck, and also the
1:03:36
miners in South America that were stuck. We
1:03:38
waited a long time for those movies. This
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one we're not having to wait for. So
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I think we'll get the documentary, and then
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we'll get a fictional version right after this.
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And we have the glorious knowledge that everyone
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filmed it happening as well. So the movie
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is made immediately. I mean, that really changes
1:03:52
the way things are done there, absolutely. I
1:03:54
mean, this plane dropped 176 feet in four
1:03:56
seconds, and Bradley Richard, who's the UK man
1:03:58
who was left with six friends. and his
1:04:00
spine. I'm sure he's not going to be
1:04:02
entertained by this film, but he did say
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it was right out of a movie. Karen
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Krasunovich, thank you so much for joining us
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on Monocle Radio. You're listening to The Globalist
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and that's all the time we have for
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today's programme. The warmest of thanks to all
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my guests and to our producers too, Laura
1:04:17
Kramer and Tom Webb. Our research was George
1:04:19
Ruskin and our studio manager, Mariela Bevan, with
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editing assistance from Lily Austin. After the headlines,
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there's more music on the way. The briefing
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is live at midday here in London. Hope
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you can join me for that if you
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can and The Globalist is back at the
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same time on Monday. But for now from
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me, Emma Nelson. Goodbye, thank you very much
1:04:36
for listening and have a great weekend. you
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