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Here's to the finest crew in Starling.
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When it comes to my crew, you
0:04
won't get any argument from me. This
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is a parody. Paramount
0:12
owns the song.
0:15
Welcome to The Greatest Generation. It's a Star
0:17
Trek podcast by a couple of guys who
0:19
are a little bit embarrassed about having a
0:21
Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam
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Pranika. Code 47
0:25
this week, Adam, we're opening
0:28
some packages that were
0:30
sent in by friends of DeSoto. Again,
0:34
I am notorious at the post office. They
0:36
were mad at me for having so many
0:38
things there. They've escalated
0:41
in their passive-aggressive post
0:43
office behavior toward me. Last
0:46
couple of times, they've given me
0:48
the corrugated plastic bin full of
0:51
packages. This time, pushed an entire
0:53
hopper through the door. Well,
0:56
you got the laundry
0:58
hopper situation? Yeah, hamper
1:00
is probably the word for it, not hopper. Fuck
1:02
that shit! But the wheeled
1:04
thing with the canvas
1:06
inside the metal structure.
1:10
And she was like, yeah, you can use this and push it
1:12
out to your car. Just
1:14
bring it back and leave it by this door. Yeah,
1:17
try to remember to come back and
1:19
return it. It seems like something
1:21
you have a real problem with. That's
1:24
a reliable way to feel bad for you.
1:26
Just every couple of weeks ago, go to
1:28
the post office. Check on the
1:30
packages. You
1:33
and I were talking the other day, and I was
1:35
like, I don't know if anybody likes this segment or
1:37
wants us to keep doing it, but they keep sending
1:39
stuff. I know it's important
1:41
for the people that send the stuff, and so
1:43
that's why it feels like a meaningful thing to
1:45
do. But yeah, I wonder if you're
1:48
not one of the senders if this does anything. Maybe
1:51
we should move this to a YouTube down the
1:53
road and just make that its own thing. I
1:55
don't know. The thoughtfulness of the people who send
1:57
this stuff in deserves to be recognized. And
2:00
maybe shunting them over to the
2:02
YouTube isn't fair either. Who's
2:04
to say? Yeah, I would be curious. Maybe
2:08
Rob can put up a post this
2:10
week taking people's temperature on whether they
2:12
would like a Code 47
2:14
Maron to just be its own thing or
2:17
if they like it in the show from time
2:19
to time. Oh, Ben, I'm already
2:21
looking at the poll and there's actually a third
2:23
voting button. Did you know about this? Was
2:26
it just stop doing the show entirely? No,
2:28
it's no matter what you choose, do we
2:30
want Ben to still feel bad every two
2:32
or three weeks? Is
2:34
that one doing pretty well? That one's like 98%. I
2:41
think we should probably get into this
2:43
mailbag because there's a bunch here. Oh
2:45
yeah, a whole laundry chute. Captain, I'm
2:48
sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a Code 47. Verify?
2:53
It is Code 47, sir. Stark
2:55
lead emergency frequency. Captain's eyes only.
2:57
All right, we're going to
2:59
start with a letter. This
3:01
one is from Rebecca PhD
3:04
out of Chicago, Illinois.
3:08
How does Rebecca have time to send us
3:10
a letter? Dear Ben and Adam, last summer
3:12
during a guided bike tour in the Burgundy
3:14
wine region in France, the guy
3:17
told us we were going to stop at our first
3:19
vineyard for a tasting. Apparently
3:21
Chateau Picard exists. Luckily
3:24
one other guy on the tour was also
3:26
a TNG fan and equally excited, so
3:29
I didn't look like a total weirdo
3:31
geeking out. The French tour guide and
3:33
vineyard owner were completely confused. I
3:36
tried to find some swag to bring back
3:38
for you guys, but all they had was
3:41
this card and my husband refused
3:43
to sacrifice one of our six
3:45
allotted bottles to quote Braceback Wine
3:47
for those guys from that weird
3:49
Star Trek podcast who was the
3:51
two. Yeah, that's smart. That's
3:54
totally fair. Also, that's a fucking lie.
3:56
There is no way anyone involved with
3:59
Chateau Picard. is completely
4:01
unaware of the idea of
4:03
Star Trek The Next Generation and Jean-Luc Picard.
4:06
Are fans just not going there that much?
4:08
That's like asking directions of a French person
4:10
in English and then just ignoring you. Like,
4:12
that's what this is. They're just being French
4:15
at you. Oh
4:19
man, you can stay in the guest house
4:21
at Chateau Picard. That's something we gotta do
4:23
at some point. You get to see the
4:25
very spot that Picard's mom hung herself. Wow!
4:31
Wow! This
4:34
next one is from Stefan out
4:36
of New York, New York. We
4:39
have a letter here. Hi, Ben and Adam
4:41
and Wendy and Bill. Sorry for
4:43
the delay in sending this Xmas
4:45
themed item. I started making
4:47
these ornaments in 2002 for friends and family. And
4:51
since you're such a consistent part
4:53
of my week, I decided podcasters
4:55
were close enough. Thanks for all
4:57
you do to make us laugh.
4:59
Stefan and... Yvonne? Maybe? Oh,
5:02
that's great. These are the ornaments.
5:04
They're like a circuit board with
5:06
LEDs printed on it. Look
5:09
at that. Are the lights registering for you
5:11
on camera? They sure are. They look great.
5:13
Wow. There's also a button here. What does
5:15
that do? Mode. Thank
5:18
you, Stefan. And thank
5:21
you, Yvonne. This
5:23
one is from Kevin
5:25
out of Cincinnati, Ohio. I
5:28
think I found a letter here. Dear
5:30
Ben and Adam, a while back I sent in
5:32
a P1 to you guys saying I was
5:34
hoping to see you in Cincinnati for the Share
5:37
Your Embarrassment Tour. Alas, as we know, that was
5:39
not meant to be. Still, it was great
5:41
meeting you guys at the Chicago Show. Although you
5:43
guys didn't make it, I did
5:45
want to send you some things from the
5:48
city that you can enjoy as a way
5:50
of saying, sorry we missed you. First, you'll
5:52
find some spice mixes and kits I got
5:54
from Findley Market near downtown. It
5:57
includes some Cincinnati chili spices and
5:59
kits. Second is
6:01
some waffle mix from my favorite restaurant in
6:03
the city, Taste of Belgium.
6:06
Third, I wanted to send you some Grater's
6:08
ice cream, but obviously doing that directly would
6:10
be a bad idea. So
6:13
enclosed, you will find a gift card for
6:15
each of you that has enough on them
6:17
so you can cover an order of six
6:20
pints as well as shipping. That is so
6:22
nice! Dang! Wow! Amazing!
6:25
Thanks for all the entertainment you guys have given me
6:27
and the FODs all these years. I hope that in
6:29
2025, when you're on tour with the one
6:32
with the mashed potatoes whisk, that
6:34
you can try again to make a stop in
6:36
Cincinnati. But if not, then I look forward to
6:38
seeing you guys in whatever city you can make
6:40
it to. So that's
6:42
from Kevin from Cincy. Kevin, you
6:44
are so generous.
6:47
That is amazing.
6:49
Thank you for your kindness. And thank
6:51
you for reminding me of
6:53
what our tour poster might look like for that
6:55
next tour. I
6:59
mean, the real star of that movie,
7:01
Central. Yeah. To what's going
7:03
on in there. This next
7:05
package is from Jeff. My name is
7:07
Jeff. In Brooklyn, New York. Dear Ben
7:10
and Adam, Hey guys, this has been
7:12
rattling around in my head since well
7:14
before the pandemic. My friend of 20
7:16
plus years Francis started a certain Facebook
7:19
group after Lower Decks season four episode
7:21
four and everything
7:23
fell into place. May these precious
7:25
keepsakes contribute or not to your
7:27
good mental health. Thanks
7:29
again, Jeff Brady, co-mod
7:32
of the greatest trek, Tweening.
7:35
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wow.
7:38
All right. Okay. So
7:43
a Mark Twain bobblehead doll.
7:46
Oh my God. These
7:48
are code 47, greatest
7:51
gen limited edition Mark
7:53
Twain bobbleheads. That is not one
7:55
of those cheap bobbleheads. That
7:58
Looks like legit. Malady.
8:00
It kind of looks to me
8:02
like maybe hand crafted. just look
8:04
at embargo. The nice silent Twain
8:07
is is something I can really
8:09
get behind our yeah wow that
8:11
is really great safe as there's
8:13
also one for you here Adam
8:15
So thanks. One final package Adam
8:18
from Chris out of Maple Valley,
8:20
Washington The complicated pack job You
8:22
hear? this is like when my
8:24
mom makes me a pie and
8:26
my dad hacks it. A box
8:28
sets to. Assess
8:31
how high is worth. My dad is.
8:34
A dedicated architects of
8:37
high shipping materials. Here's.
8:41
A letter. A
8:43
Bed and Adam. It was great getting to
8:45
see you guys live again in Seattle and
8:48
was also cool to see that you were
8:50
touring with one of the Riker Horgan that
8:52
I sent. You sir are caught a glimpse
8:54
of the action galley play set and send
8:56
you on the video of the We Encounter
8:59
as far Point. It's gratifying to see that
9:01
the stupid things I enjoy making have found
9:03
a home on the road with you. That's
9:06
why I will share my embarrassment a
9:08
hearing Adam say that his Horgan broke
9:10
spilling sand all over his stuff and
9:12
when they get a lot of wear
9:14
and tear on the road he said
9:16
these are gone they do but I'm
9:19
usually very studious with the the bubble
9:21
wrap and the and the closing wrapped
9:23
around it and so forth like items.
9:25
I like your dad and apply at
9:27
the So am I. With Horgan Adam
9:30
said he would attempt to fix it.
9:32
Now there's no need. I went right
9:34
to work making a new. One Wow
9:36
and closes a new record maneuver
9:38
Horgan residing in my first attempt
9:40
at laser cutting a Fox. Also
9:42
enclosed as a small supply of
9:45
posters I created a Writer Horgan
9:47
Consent graphic is a style of
9:49
the Obama Hope poster for a
9:51
shirt which I wore to the
9:53
Seattle Show Front Row Center. Thanks
9:55
for all the last and keep
9:57
making five. Probably listen to anything
9:59
you guys put out. Heck, Factory
10:02
Seconds is literally just a podcast
10:04
about what you had for lunch.
10:06
People seem to love that. All
10:09
the best Chris when you put
10:11
it that way as a kind
10:14
of stings ssssss at the box
10:16
is beautiful. It looks like an
10:18
artifact really phenomenal some and it
10:21
feels a little bit more substantial
10:23
and says well I want to
10:25
bring one of those to Jonathan
10:28
friends. Have been in love then? Let's
10:31
do it. Let's me know. I mean you're gonna
10:33
have to do most of the talking. I think
10:35
that of of down for that. As an adventurer
10:37
it goes without saying. If
10:40
like year catchphrase been a
10:42
centimeter really goes without saying
10:45
ssssss. Wow
10:47
Wow! this has been a ton of
10:49
fun. Thank you to everybody who sent
10:51
us something. A few says audio version
10:53
of the show a good or social
10:55
media and you could see pictures of
10:58
all the school stuff that follows on
11:00
you tube Satan. Last video with
11:02
that we should probably pivot
11:04
into. Episode Here we got
11:07
a great episode. Of
11:09
Star Trek Enterprise. To talk
11:11
about it's Season One Episode
11:14
four. Strange. New Worlds
11:16
to. Were.
11:20
In the mess hell for the cold
11:22
open and there we meet a couple
11:24
As and Pcs here as I love
11:27
this moment. Because. This feels
11:29
new to me in a Star Trek
11:31
episode, yet the idea of crew people
11:33
going about their business in this case
11:35
eating Vulcan food, but something out the
11:38
window? Catches. There I. It's
11:40
a planet. And it's a planet that looks
11:42
a lot like Earth. A lot
11:44
of the familiar geographical traits. That.
11:47
You've come to love about.
11:49
The. Pale blue. right? Suspended
11:52
in a sunbeam. When.
11:54
I was. I was just thinking about
11:57
like these characters debt as fleshed out
11:59
over the course this episode as some
12:01
bridge crew people on Discovery have over.
12:04
Five. Seasons and I don't if
12:06
going to see them again or
12:08
not, but that I thought that
12:11
they were interestingly drawn characters that
12:13
like. Gives. A sense of
12:15
like what kind of person is also on board
12:17
the ship and know. I like
12:19
the idea of meeting new crew people
12:21
on a show that you've only seen
12:23
for three episodes and not immediately assuming
12:25
these people are going to die because
12:28
there's a pretty good chance that these
12:30
might be just. Crew. People you come
12:32
back and hang out with some time to time. Every
12:34
eight episodes are so. That. It does.
12:36
These could be to crewman Terry. see now.
12:39
This. Could be of boring care. Such
12:41
nonsense. With that thoughts in here, They're
12:43
not being set up like red shirts.
12:45
There is set up like part of
12:48
the tapestry of characters on board the
12:50
ship. I love the one guy in
12:52
the scene points out the window and
12:54
he's like is that the polar region.
12:58
So right. And Truman Cutler's
13:00
like come on Novak of it's that your
13:03
mind out of the gutter. Ted.
13:05
Over to the bridge and death Everyone seal
13:08
And good because the atmosphere on this planet
13:10
is breather. Bull. Ah, but
13:12
there's no humanoids. And the scans. Ah
13:15
but I guess the good news is
13:17
also there's no like warning was. It's
13:24
an abandoned planet. Is. Unspoken for
13:26
so let's go. Had put a pod
13:29
down there there. There's. Some
13:31
debate again suppose like hey
13:33
maybe maybe slow your roll
13:35
I think this episode establishes
13:37
what M class stands for
13:39
the Area Vulcan word he
13:41
as her seems there were
13:43
men shard class meaning that
13:45
can support humanoid life. And
13:47
it's really like a you know she's saying
13:50
like put Mars Rovers down there They're like
13:52
no, no, we're much more. They hold my
13:54
beer type species like we're just gonna go.
13:56
To. Paul doesn't like moving that fast
13:59
see like that. Probing the area
14:01
first for a period of days
14:03
before just. Going. On in there,
14:05
She wants to get the planet
14:07
ready for them. Be respectful and
14:09
since the Fall says the removal
14:11
of that is. Not. Going
14:13
to happen. Said
14:16
after the theme song were in engineering
14:18
and that's the same Lady is the
14:21
first seen her name is Cutler. And.
14:23
She's kissing up to Depaul Hear about?
14:25
oh that Vulcan food I tried
14:27
in the mess always. Grades.
14:31
He was so good. I
14:33
don't eat, it was not very pecans. is
14:35
that how you guys like and. Maybe.
14:38
We could have lunch sometime. Or
14:40
whatever. She. Takes being selected for
14:42
this mission very personally in a way that
14:44
she should not to paul selecting your didn't
14:46
have anything to do with how much. She.
14:49
Likes or it's about are
14:51
being qualified. The. Kind of idea
14:53
that I got of Cutler here was that
14:56
she was a little bit of a careerist.
14:58
This. Of. That's like a
15:00
familiar kind of lowered zacher I guess.
15:03
Boy Miller you record is spotless. It's
15:05
freaky. I did not like how Trips.
15:07
So. Quickly compared to Paul to
15:09
befriending a house lights like to,
15:12
Paul is a lower form of
15:14
lies. Her. Don't love
15:16
that. The mud flip? That's not
15:18
cool. Look. Seats is more cut
15:20
out for the task that the only we reason
15:22
she's attached and there. Were. In
15:24
the shuttle were on our way down things
15:27
to happen and pretty quickly hear this shuttle.
15:29
Is. Dust. It's. Got
15:31
Archer to power trip. Mayweather,
15:34
Cutler. Said. Other guy
15:36
from the mess hall make of it's
15:38
the back of its. Poors
15:41
those is coming to these fucking
15:43
dog owners man. Even as you
15:45
bring him everywhere, you bring them
15:47
to the doctor's office, you bring
15:49
him to a restaurant. You.
15:51
Bring a money in Iowa on away Miss and
15:53
cool or I know. Just. Poor services
15:56
invited taking the spot of another
15:58
crew person. And. Made
16:00
me very uneasy to see poor just
16:02
run across the lawn when they said
16:04
they got down there like very cute
16:07
dog. Loved the footage of the dog
16:09
having a romp in the grass. but
16:11
dogs famously eat things up off the
16:13
ground that they should not eat. like
16:15
what if there's like a mushroom on
16:18
this planet you don't know what if
16:20
in taking a dump as the grass
16:22
dumps Bath assess assess assess. you never
16:24
know how. Makes it a terrible mistake
16:27
assuming this is a work trip. She.
16:29
Gets absolutely. Nuts.
16:32
Dubbed by Archer for not just wandering
16:34
around using your senses instead of that
16:37
fucking try quarter were digging to
16:39
do with that. Smell. The
16:41
air is a minute to enjoy yourself. Now
16:43
turns out smelling the air might not
16:45
be such a great idea on this
16:47
planet. Berta. We. Will
16:49
get to that for of moments
16:51
at trip takes a a group
16:53
photo of everybody. And. Then
16:55
regus get kind of like a
16:57
fun exploring montage if you don't
16:59
wanna take a picture of your
17:02
subjects in full sun squinting. Have
17:04
everyone I hold their eyes
17:06
closed and face the said.
17:09
That. Way their eyes will get used to the
17:11
brightness and then you have I'm open their eyes
17:13
again and then take that picture. The retina look
17:15
like the squinty mess. He. Had only
17:17
worked once though right? like he. they can't than
17:19
hold it for a bunch of picks that's did
17:21
to tip for me. You get you can get
17:23
a good picture to that way. I
17:26
started as a nice job with this
17:28
environments it's it's get kind of like
17:30
Swiss Alps even though it's clearly shot
17:32
in Southern California. Look. Into
17:34
it like the lights are able
17:36
now to comprehend a snowy mountain
17:38
peak in the background and living
17:41
plants were. In. Southern California.
17:43
Everything's dead and gray. You're right.
17:45
it looks like a goddamn Rico
17:47
commercial there. And
17:50
this away team splits up to investigate
17:52
and do more damage that way. The
17:55
moment? Where at Paul? Hits.
17:58
Archer up on his communicator. Like
18:00
there's a passage of time, right? Everyone
18:02
does their exploring. And later on,
18:04
to Paul, blurps in a
18:06
message to Archer, like, hey, you
18:08
up? And that's
18:11
because it was time to rally
18:13
back to the shuttle 15 minutes ago. No, there's
18:15
no trouble, Archer says. I'm
18:17
just oblivious. I'm just
18:19
a bad captain, is what he should
18:21
say. Come on, man.
18:24
If you don't respect time
18:27
as the managerial figure of
18:30
this entire enterprise, and I
18:32
mean that word in all kinds of ways, no
18:35
one who works for you is going to respect it.
18:38
Here's the thing, the first officer is
18:40
DePaul. So everybody ultimately reports to her
18:42
and she's punctual as fuck. All right,
18:44
I guess that makes sense. He's got
18:46
cover, you know? But it's not the
18:48
hook. He's not providing good leadership on
18:50
that subject. But DePaul is like,
18:52
hey, there's nocturnal marsupials here and we would
18:55
love to study them. And
18:57
Archer's like, cool. Well, if you and
18:59
your buddies can hang out, I'm going back up to
19:01
the ship. And so this
19:03
turns into a
19:05
camping trip really quickly. It's
19:08
a camping trip tucker, if you will.
19:10
Picture 10, Commander. Thanks, Captain.
19:13
Yeah, so it's not just DePaul. It's going to
19:15
be Tucker and Mayweather
19:17
and Cutler and Novakovic
19:20
staying as well. And that night, it's
19:23
campfire times. I mean, are you
19:26
sure it's not sentient wood? There
19:30
is so much we don't know about this planet.
19:34
Life forms they don't understand are being
19:36
pissed and shit on by a dog.
19:38
You know, it's like, sentient until proven
19:40
otherwise in Star Trek should be the
19:42
way you proceed. That's
19:44
not the scary part of the scene. The scary part
19:46
of the scene is the story Mayweather tells about
19:49
this 60-year-old space probe that
19:52
they found one time. And
19:54
they thought there was a person inside it. But
19:57
When they opened it, it was empty. But The guy who
19:59
opened it... He. Went a little crazy and
20:01
then he got into a life pod himself. And.
20:04
Then he zoomed away, never to be seen again.
20:07
And that's a scary Star Trek story right
20:09
there to pause a. Bucket. Of
20:11
ice water. For this he poked
20:13
holes and plausibility. Issues.
20:16
As that she's found of the story
20:18
lemme guess. No
20:21
ghost stories on Vulcan. She's
20:23
got real podcast her energy
20:25
about this story. Does
20:29
make sense to do. We do it
20:31
though. we're because. So
20:36
everybody likes starts to get ready for
20:38
bed and this is when the storm
20:40
started storming. They're going to train ride
20:42
it out in their tense but I
20:44
wanted to ask you about how intense
20:46
this was. Like you really to put
20:49
a lot of thought in. How
20:51
stormy it gets, right? And.
20:54
I really think they nailed. It. I've been
20:56
camping about to times and never liked
20:58
it. but I've been camping sense that
21:01
dorms. Especially didn't like those and
21:03
like this is the sort of storm or
21:05
you leave the tent and get into the
21:07
car, right? It's that Kennedy. Oh yeah, I
21:10
think it's familiar to a lot of people
21:12
who have spent any time outdoors like this.
21:14
Sucks. But. It's not below your
21:16
tent away and a tornado like they could
21:18
have over down to disown him say and
21:20
and they didn't. D. Have
21:22
you ever been camping when you found a
21:25
said eel in your sleeping bags? Because.
21:27
I would have driven home at that
21:29
point. Like a said sides, get it
21:32
in your car and ride it out.
21:34
I wanted this to be said. Eel
21:36
origin story so bad I don't know.
21:38
Like why did they designed it to
21:41
look like that of that wasn't a
21:43
said eel? Aren't you completely okay with
21:45
Cutler or Novak of it's. Being.
21:48
taken by a said eel and
21:50
that is how it began ah
21:52
man that would be great play
21:54
in the long game the tricky
21:56
thing about this show is that
21:58
being a pre they can't compromise
22:00
continuity for later. So the SETI
22:02
EEL being a surprise in Wrath
22:04
of Khan, and that is
22:06
in fact SETI Alpha 5 in
22:09
Wrath of Khan, like, you know,
22:11
if that was a SETI EEL, then they would
22:13
have to write some reason that like, that wasn't
22:16
recorded properly in the, in the ship's logs, so
22:18
nobody knew. You know, you
22:20
don't have to make it that neat
22:22
and tight. Like the paranoia
22:24
that occurs later on in this episode
22:26
could be SETI EEL related. Trip
22:29
acts hella weird in this episode and
22:31
it could be nothing. Crawl
22:33
up into those mouths. Start
22:35
acting weird. Citing of
22:37
an insect that looked like the
22:40
SETI EELS from Wrath of Khan,
22:43
like permanently made me
22:45
wonder what this episode could have been
22:47
in a way that I think
22:50
is unintentional. Like I was like, oh, like, did
22:52
they design that bug when the version of the
22:54
script that they were working on was that this
22:56
was SETI Alpha 5 and then like, What
23:01
character has the head you'd most like to
23:03
see explained? Reid
23:07
comes up to Captain Archer's, I can't
23:09
tell if this is his ready room
23:11
or his quarters, but Reid
23:13
pops in and is like, Hey Cap,
23:16
I guess it must be his quarters. Right. He's
23:19
like in bed reading when this happens. It
23:21
seems like a big deal is made out
23:23
of the water polo thing. Like
23:25
the object being the water
23:27
polo ball and the references
23:29
to Archer wishing that
23:32
there was a pool on the
23:34
ship or whatever. And
23:37
I think that means that this is
23:40
going to be a running reference
23:42
on enterprise, the references to water
23:44
polo, which means it's
23:46
time for our very first game, brand
23:49
new game for
23:51
a Greatest Generation Enterprise. It is a
23:54
trivia game Ben and the game is
23:56
called polo Versus
23:59
Polo. This. Is Toya.
24:03
I'm on the line. I
24:07
go to school or law enforcement
24:10
for one verse. would. Hurt
24:14
risk. News is
24:16
referees. In
24:18
this game I will name three things
24:21
Her The to these things is either.
24:23
A water polo things. A
24:26
horse polo thing. Or
24:28
a polio soda? Are you ready? Hit
24:31
me okay? Let's. Begin. Not.
24:34
In. Ball.
24:36
Under. Baked.
24:38
Chicken Soups hundred. Success
24:42
Forgetting to a horse polo
24:44
water polo polio is going
24:46
to be Lancer. So
24:48
you're saying horse polo for knockin'
24:51
Water. Polo for ball under and for
24:53
some reason big to consume you Tell
24:56
gives his point out as soon as
24:58
I guess when you're three for three
25:00
days say. Wow.
25:02
Okay, next question. Okay, here's
25:04
a three things. Brutality.
25:09
Hook. So.
25:11
Pace. Guess
25:14
brutality his horse
25:17
hello? Hook is
25:19
water polo and so poses
25:21
point. Sorry
25:23
that is incorrect brutality
25:25
as water polo. Focus:
25:28
Horse Polo Okay. But.
25:31
So freezes. Boy of that's great. A.
25:33
Brutality and water Polo is a
25:35
type of exclusion cel punished by
25:37
the opposing team being awarded a
25:39
free throw her spend Final question:
25:41
your. One. And one now. This.
25:44
Final one will determine whether or not you will
25:46
have one. Polo. The.
25:49
Polo. Viewpoint. Theory
25:52
Guess. Whole guard.
25:55
In the row when. A
25:59
rose code. Wow. okay. Whole.
26:02
Guard. I. Think
26:04
is gonna be. Coil.
26:09
Throw in I think is gonna be.
26:13
Horse Polo. And.
26:16
Arose can poor thing is gonna be
26:19
waterpark. I'm sorry
26:21
then that is incorrect. Everyone knows
26:23
whole guards is a a water
26:25
polo reference as a defensive players
26:27
guards the centre forward or the
26:29
whole net. Ah I get worse
26:31
and worse as we went along.
26:34
And. Everyone knows that a throw in
26:37
is the. Thing. That begins to
26:39
play at the start of the game and a
26:41
horse polo match. And. Arose can
26:43
point out. Is delicious
26:45
Rice. And. Chicken I should have
26:48
gotten melon. Any way I
26:50
look out for future segments of
26:52
that new sit down anytime arts
26:54
your for some reason brings up
26:56
water bill at south most is
26:59
rough game. So
27:02
survey team hunker down
27:05
in cave. Some
27:07
of this third setting of this that
27:09
they realize that they left all their
27:11
food out in the fields. who on
27:13
the away team decided that anything was
27:15
more important than food as they evacuated
27:18
the site. This. This did start
27:20
to make me suspect that the
27:22
Paul was the greatest of leaders.
27:24
For that, No one of them
27:26
was Nubbins right there. So Novak
27:28
image is like looking deep into
27:31
the cave and think a seeing
27:33
stuff back there and drabs Mayweather
27:35
goes out to work. He catches
27:37
like one year emery blowing around
27:39
him and there and and saves
27:42
it. But. I'm. See.
27:45
Also kind of things that he sees
27:47
people like walking around outside. I thought
27:49
this was really well done these liked
27:51
without glimpses of people like may be
27:53
in the bushes and stuff. We're.
27:55
We're very spooky. Did. you
27:57
think about how hard it must have
27:59
been for may weather to catch that
28:02
flopping MRE around in the wind. Like
28:04
that's like catching a napkin that's fallen
28:06
off of your leg in an outdoor
28:08
restaurant. Yeah, absolutely. It was, uh, like
28:10
one of the most impressive stunts in Star
28:12
Trek history right there. I
28:15
love how he dives for it. He goes out. So,
28:19
uh, the Vacavich is
28:21
like, is totally panicking. And
28:23
when Travis gets back, he's like, yeah,
28:26
something spooky is going on outside too. Maybe
28:28
it would be better if Trip Tucker put
28:31
his face right up against his for
28:33
comfort. That
28:36
does seem like it would help, but
28:38
it doesn't. And Novacovich makes a break
28:40
for it, runs outside. So Trip and
28:42
Travis have to chase him. Uh,
28:45
meanwhile to Paul, believing that Novacovich
28:47
may have heard something, uh, decides
28:50
to go deeper into the cave to
28:52
investigate what, uh, he was responding to.
28:55
This is also the moment in the
28:57
episode where they start to distribute the
28:59
weapons. Yeah. Not being sure
29:01
if there are any other folks out
29:03
there. Right. Out in
29:06
the storm, Trip hallucinates
29:08
a rock man. And
29:10
I thought this was a very well done
29:14
special effect because, uh, I just
29:17
feel like the number of
29:19
times I've seen the effects
29:21
of hallucinogens depicted in media.
29:24
It has typically not been anything like
29:26
what I experienced on hallucinogens, but this
29:28
fucking was, it was like, like
29:30
that's a, that's like a thing that like
29:33
I could totally see somebody seeing on a
29:35
bad trip. When John
29:37
Rambo covers himself with mud to
29:39
hide from the Russian soldier in
29:41
Rambo first blood part two, was
29:44
that also a scene that
29:46
evoked hallucinogenic fantasy from you?
29:48
Kind of. Yeah. Cause
29:50
that's what I thought of when I saw this
29:52
rock man. Yeah. I was like, John Rambo would
29:54
be kind of envious of this. It's a great
29:56
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33:51
There's something going on with Tripp's hair, which I'm not
33:53
that familiar with yet, but his
33:56
hair in this episode really did a
33:58
lot to convey that he seemed to be a good person. in
34:00
a bad place psycho-emotionally? Absolutely.
34:03
I love the sequence
34:06
here because it really feels like
34:08
two writers who came up with
34:10
an idea to scare these
34:12
two characters and one of
34:14
them's like, yeah, let's like do a rock
34:16
monster hallucination. That'll really get them and the
34:18
other writers like, and they could also
34:20
like come close to falling off a
34:23
cliff. And
34:25
those two ideas are so different that I
34:27
feel like they're like, okay, well let's shoot
34:29
them both and see what
34:32
works once we cut it together. And
34:34
I think for time they just use
34:36
them both. They don't feel compatible in
34:38
a scares kind of way,
34:40
you know? Yeah, like were they both
34:43
hallucinating the same thing or were they just
34:45
so disoriented by the storm that they didn't
34:47
know that there was a cliff like that
34:49
nearby? I don't know.
34:52
They give up on finding Novakovich and
34:54
head back to the cave. But when
34:56
we cut back to the cave, Crouman
34:59
Cutler is sneaking around
35:01
and sees DePaul talking to a
35:03
couple of low-fee aliens and
35:06
Cutler walks up to Tabal and she's like, hey,
35:08
who are those guys you were talking to? DePaul
35:12
plays stupid. Doesn't know what Cutler
35:14
is referring to here. Who are you talking
35:16
to? Talking
35:19
to. There's no
35:21
one here. DePaul's like the friend
35:23
at the bar who's hit it off with
35:25
a couple of dudes and does not want
35:27
to tell her friends that things are going
35:29
well for fear of like losing
35:31
the chances with one of them. The chances
35:33
are good. Like one of two might be
35:35
hers for the taking. When Tripp
35:37
and Travis get back, Cutler
35:39
brings up this, Tabal
35:41
was talking to secret
35:43
aliens in the back thing
35:46
and this is where the tension really
35:48
starts to ratchet up. The
35:51
ratcher suggests going back to the cave. It
35:54
doesn't seem like anything good is going on out
35:56
in the storm. So
35:58
everyone kind of reconvenes there. and
36:01
Cutler is there to call bullshit
36:03
onto Paul, like in front of
36:05
everyone. Oh yeah. There's
36:07
something in those rocks you're not telling us. You
36:11
talk to some dudes, I
36:13
wanna meet those dudes, I'm single too.
36:16
What are you doing keeping those rock monsters
36:18
to yourself? You're trying to take
36:21
both of them down in one night? You
36:24
don't know if they're down for an MMF, you
36:26
know? Like that's pretty varsity level to just assume
36:28
that you can pick two guys up in a
36:30
bar like that. Check
36:32
out how brave Cutler is in this scene.
36:34
I was impressed. It was good. She wasn't
36:36
putting up with Paul's guff. There were
36:38
two of them. She's mistaken.
36:41
No, I'm not. I think she's
36:43
a liar. Archer and
36:45
Reed come down to try
36:47
and rescue Novakovich in the
36:49
pod and the weather
36:52
is really weathering and
36:55
Novakovich is not compass
36:57
mentus to respond
36:59
but everybody from the away team comes out
37:02
to get ready to get on
37:04
board the pod and this
37:07
does not go well. The wind
37:09
shear blows them into a rock
37:11
face and it looked
37:13
like it was just a wing that hit but
37:16
Malcolm is talking about how one of their
37:18
thrusters is out and it's not safe to land
37:20
without it. This
37:22
is straight out of a trip tucker
37:25
pilot manual, right? You'd think trip would
37:27
be the one bonking into things with
37:29
the shuttle but it's Archer, right? Archer
37:32
is not rated
37:35
to fly off of instruments. Archer
37:37
is flying this shuttle like Reed
37:39
fires torpedoes, man. It's
37:41
not going well. They have to scrub
37:43
the landing. Yeah, they are ordered to
37:46
go make contact with whoever that
37:48
was in the cave and
37:51
ride out the storm in there.
37:53
Did you get Pharaoh lands the
37:55
drop ship on LV-426 vibes with
37:59
the way the... they shot this shuttle coming through the
38:01
storm. Like. Oh, yeah. I'll never
38:04
not think of that when a scene is
38:06
set up this way. If it weren't Archer
38:08
and Tripp on that shuttle, it would have
38:10
been a great opportunity to blow one of
38:12
those up. This is one
38:14
area that I think that Star Trek
38:16
has always done its
38:19
pilot characters dirty, is like they
38:21
need more pilot patter. Yeah. Like
38:24
she has in Aliens. Like all that, you know,
38:26
I'm hitting the switch and saying the
38:28
like jargon about hitting this switch and everything
38:30
is five by five, we're in the pattern.
38:33
They got a five by five, this scene and they don't.
38:35
Yeah. Back inside the caves, the
38:38
scene is getting grim.
38:41
Tripp is down to put his face
38:43
right next to DePaul's again, to get
38:45
a straight answer out of her about
38:47
the rock people that he is absolutely sure
38:50
exist and that she is covering up.
38:52
And whoa, things escalate quickly
38:55
because he pulls a dust buster
38:57
on her and what the
38:59
hell Tripp? I
39:01
thought we were just talking here. The whole
39:03
world got crazy. I love the
39:06
like, hey, you're becoming irrational. Accusation
39:09
never works well when somebody is
39:11
becoming irrational to hang a lantern
39:13
on that. Yeah, when everyone's
39:15
got dust busters, things that are
39:17
bound to be a little heated. On
39:20
Enterprise, they're able to read
39:22
Novakovich's Bioscience and you
39:24
don't need to read those Bioscience to
39:26
know he's not doing great because his
39:28
comm signal has been left open and
39:31
it's just screaming. It's nothing but screaming.
39:34
You don't need the Bioscience to know that
39:36
he's in trouble. Archer makes
39:38
the tough call to use the
39:40
transporter for the second time ever
39:43
on a people. And
39:47
this time, Reed is working it and
39:49
has a little bit of trouble keeping
39:51
all of the shit that's blowing around
39:54
in the air on this planet outside
39:57
of the confinement beam. Man
40:01
it is. It is fucked up with.
40:04
This guy Materializes. He's like he's like
40:06
impregnated with sticks and. And
40:08
rocks and stuff. Do. You think?
40:10
read should have been more horrified in
40:12
the scene. There is
40:14
something I'd. Like. Professionally cold about
40:16
him that I think is good that
40:18
is. What? You want and
40:20
an emergency situation is so yeah. But I
40:23
god like for a guy who doesn't run
40:25
this machine very often and for that to
40:27
be the outcome. I also
40:30
thought this plant matter came from. Him
40:32
like like it's shot out of his body.
40:34
Because. The transporter interacted with.
40:38
The. Stuff that he had inhaled. Yeah right.
40:40
It looks to me like the the
40:42
rocks and plants were. Were.
40:44
Just like. They. Like
40:47
materialized in the same place
40:49
as like they were blowing
40:51
across. Oblige. Just like became
40:53
overlapped with his body in
40:55
the signal or something. That
40:57
yikes it's fucking terrifying like that
40:59
the loaf that they did for
41:01
that, like one second shot of
41:03
him on the transporter pad. Really?
41:06
Impressive as disturbing, like I'm
41:08
starting to be very impressed
41:10
with the like the Galaxy
41:12
has haunted some energy that
41:14
this show. Back. In the
41:17
cave trip into Paul keep arguing and
41:19
why is the correct it all went
41:21
time I don't know Marco he takes
41:23
away or scanner. And
41:26
he starts hollering. They. Are
41:28
right there. Trip: You don't have to
41:30
yell, you're in a cave. Keep your
41:32
voice down. It bounces around a lot.
41:35
On and on is going with his
41:37
paranoid delusions. And where are
41:39
the not turtle marsupials? assess assess. It
41:41
was a question I have a her
41:44
as when are they get a silver
41:46
plated that? when's it gonna pay
41:48
off. Imagine how cute
41:50
they would be with their big eyes for seeing
41:52
in the dark. And. Know you had
41:54
their pouches with. They're cute little babies hanging out
41:56
inside of a. They're. Definitely not
41:59
gonna rip to pay how and
42:01
trip tuck your limb from limb.
42:03
ssssss thin. it's been less than
42:05
a half a day and people
42:07
are falling apart to there that
42:09
does not bode well for their
42:11
team cohesion. This is how I
42:13
start to act when you take
42:15
me camping after like just one
42:17
afternoon, you got the Ted pits
42:19
to new. Just start for food
42:21
assists. We can't just not clean
42:23
the pan after we cook food
42:25
in it leaves a pain in
42:27
the camp. As.
42:30
It's not plane. Flew
42:35
I guess what you're saying is he really
42:37
identify with Trip as a character now more
42:40
than ever. In
42:47
six Bay Flocks has removed all
42:49
of the twigs and berries from
42:52
the back of it as birdie
42:54
and and he feels like this
42:56
guy's gonna heal up but. Ah,
42:59
He also was the captain.
43:01
Know that this dude blood
43:03
is absolutely loaded with hulu
43:05
citizens. Imagine you're reading for
43:07
the part of Novak of it's. And
43:10
you reach this point in the script. You.
43:12
Set the script down. you look into the
43:15
middle distance. New like. Finally,
43:18
I. Get to do that thing. I am perhaps best
43:20
at. Which is
43:22
act as though I am on
43:24
hulu cynicism assess assess see. Never.
43:27
Give him that opportunity. Ah, plough it. So
43:30
devastating. I mean, I guess he was acting
43:32
as if he was on a lucid engines
43:34
when he was just like screaming and. Crying.
43:37
On on the planet service, but there
43:39
wasn't much of that. Know.
43:41
I wanted it on the see a pen
43:43
real a body. That. Didn't eat or
43:45
dirty. ah
43:50
so the captain tries to radio
43:52
this news down to depaul who
43:54
is like in media mexican standoff
43:56
when the news makes it to
43:58
the star trek cave Were you
44:00
painting me into another game of polo polo
44:02
or Come
44:06
on, come on. Why
44:08
didn't trip taker communicate her away? I
44:11
don't know. Yeah. He's not thinking
44:13
clearly. Yeah, clearly. Uh, he,
44:16
he also seemed to be fine with her
44:18
reaching into her pocket and pulling a device
44:20
out. Yeah. Uh, so
44:22
yeah, the, he doesn't buy
44:24
the you're on hallucinogens explanation.
44:28
Um, he very much believes what
44:30
he saw and Archer's like, man,
44:34
like remember your training, you trained
44:36
on this. So
44:38
they did anticipate this as a potential thing
44:41
that could happen. And I
44:43
mean, no matter how crazy trip
44:45
tucker acts, he still follows orders
44:48
generally, because when
44:50
Archer orders him to lower his desk,
44:52
Buster, he does. Yeah. The
44:55
orders from here go, like
44:57
go deeper into the cave. That's what you
44:59
got to do. You got to get away
45:01
from the mouth of the cave where all
45:04
of this crazy pollen exists. Right. Get in
45:06
there deeper, allow it to dissipate from your
45:08
priority, ride this thing out.
45:10
Yeah. Cause what you've been breathing outside
45:13
is what's causing this. And presumably there's
45:15
just less of it out there. How
45:18
badly did you want to cut back
45:20
to porthos alone in
45:22
Archer's quarters? Ripping
45:25
fucking balls, because at porthos
45:27
height, he's all up in
45:29
those flowers. He's
45:31
been in them the whole time. Yeah.
45:34
Well, they said it was like blew down out
45:36
of the mountain. So maybe he wouldn't have gotten
45:38
it. But Novakovich like also held
45:41
a flower up to his nose. So it
45:43
was unclear to me whether or not it
45:46
was the, it was the flower pollen.
45:48
Yeah. That was the real issue. Tripp
45:51
wakes up Travis and
45:53
I love this like rubber soul shot of
45:55
trip Tucker going like, yeah, we got to,
45:58
we could go back further at the cave. Travis
46:00
is not loving this and
46:03
they're both hallucinating still. But
46:05
this is like when the trip is
46:07
too heavy, at least
46:10
Mayweather is able to like put himself
46:12
down and to sleep like Cutler. Like
46:14
they are, they're fine.
46:17
Just give them like a glass of orange
46:19
juice and a blanket. Watch
46:21
over them. I guess camping trip Tucker
46:23
has really become acid trip Tucker in
46:25
the worst way. Yeah,
46:27
because then trip starts talking to
46:29
the cave itself and then he
46:31
starts shooting the cave. I love
46:33
that he came up with like
46:35
a coherent conspiracy that he's accusing
46:37
to Paul of. He's like, you
46:39
are talking to these aliens about
46:41
killing everybody aboard Enterprise so
46:44
that when the news gets back to Earth that
46:46
our first warp five ship left
46:48
and two weeks later everybody died and we
46:50
don't know why the Vulcans
46:52
will have more ammo to unload in
46:56
the argument of maybe humans should slow
46:58
their role and not start exploring the
47:00
galaxy so quickly argument. How
47:03
surprised were you at the
47:06
Dr. Flock's misdiagnosis of Novakovich?
47:09
He is now going to die according
47:11
to Flock and he feels very bad
47:13
about this. I thought John Billingsley's performance
47:16
here was amazing because that like that
47:18
like rueful regret like I didn't like
47:20
I missed a thing when I was
47:22
scanning him that I
47:24
should have scanned for and I didn't
47:26
and now like like Novakovich is dying
47:29
of like toxic come down off of
47:31
the hallucinogen and
47:35
that feeling of regret was so
47:37
palpable in in flocks. This
47:40
also establishes a greater threat to
47:42
the away team down on the planet.
47:44
Like if Novakovich doesn't recover that means
47:47
that chances are the folks
47:49
down on the planet won't either. They got
47:51
like it's more of an emergency than ever
47:53
to get them off. Yeah, so they're going
47:56
to beam some medicine down to help
47:58
them out. But at this point
48:01
Tripp is so fucking
48:03
paranoid that it's going to be
48:05
a challenge to persuade
48:08
him to take anything.
48:11
At this point, T'Pol has
48:13
also armed herself, so they're, you
48:16
know, pistol to pistol. It's actually
48:18
Hoshi that has to talk to T'Pol. And
48:21
I wasn't clear on if T'Pol was
48:24
talking Vulcan because that was like a side
48:26
effect of the drug for T'Pol, or because she didn't
48:28
want Tripp to know what she was saying. I
48:30
have no idea what you just said, but it
48:32
didn't sound very nice. I think
48:35
it was established in the episode that when
48:37
folks get aphasia or
48:40
whatever, often they will revert to
48:42
their original language. Right, but
48:45
they were kind of saying that for
48:47
Tripp's benefit when they said it, so...
48:49
Oh, interesting. I
48:52
like that it's ambiguous. Like, I'm not saying it's a
48:54
mistake. I think it's kind of like an interesting part
48:56
of the episode, is it's not... It's
48:59
like bothering Tripp that he can't understand what T'Pol
49:01
is saying to Hoshi. The
49:03
idea of an inoculation has floated
49:06
here, and Flox has put all
49:08
his grief into the creation of
49:10
it. And as crazy
49:12
as the ravings have become from
49:14
Tripp Tucker, it's not a surprise that
49:16
he comes out as anti-vax in this exact
49:19
moment. Taking an injection isn't going to change
49:21
a damn thing, don't you see that? T'Pol
49:23
is positive that Tripp is going to kill
49:25
her, and Archer
49:27
is just like, take the injection first
49:29
and then you can shoot anyone you want.
49:32
It's going to be great. It's weird that that
49:35
doesn't work. So
49:38
the Enterprise is able to beam the medicine
49:40
to the coordinates, which is like the doorstep
49:42
of the cave, and on
49:44
the bridge Archer continues to talk to
49:46
Tucker. If you can just keep Tucker
49:48
talking, that's less of an opportunity as
49:50
to shoot T'Pol, I guess. And
49:54
this is a great idea that he and
49:56
the bridge crew have, like maybe lean in
49:58
to the place where they're going. Paranoia, right?
50:00
Maybe create an even more.
50:03
Paranoia. Filled story for for
50:05
trip Tucker's mind to latch onto
50:08
and that story goes like this:
50:10
There. Are rock monsters and to pull
50:13
was brought their on a secret mission
50:15
to communicate with them. And these rock
50:17
monsters are pedophiles and they take kids
50:19
and do terrible things to them as
50:22
also they drink their udry the chrome
50:24
for fuel and they've threatened to destroy
50:26
the Enterprise. So To Paul needs to
50:29
be free to do her job because
50:31
if she can't do her job. They're.
50:33
Just gonna have to nuke the cave for more
50:36
Brits The only way to be sure in order
50:38
to keep the peace with Iraq. People, you understand
50:40
trip? He. Understands how all this
50:42
works. It's the deep state supposed
50:44
to threaded drain the cave. Yes,
50:47
And supple here is gay because to Paul
50:50
is made to go along with this crazy
50:52
plan even though and Vulcans he tells how
50:54
see I don't know how good of an
50:56
actor I can possibly be under these circumstances,
50:58
but she does it. And. As
51:01
soon as trip gets tricky the
51:03
lowering his weapon babs he takes
51:05
one and assess assess as selects.
51:07
There is a half a second
51:10
amount of time when ship lowers
51:12
his face or slightly before he
51:14
gets taken out. It's
51:17
race May weather gets
51:19
his. Neck. Vulcan
51:21
Pants. And. To
51:24
Paul administers the drugs to herself and
51:26
all of her crew members. She helps
51:28
others before helping herself. As a thought
51:31
was an interesting order of operations here.
51:33
That's not how it goes on an
51:35
airplane. Finally, It's
51:38
morning. And a every
51:40
one wakes up. I like that everyone got
51:42
to get a good night's sleep after. This.
51:44
Experience. It seems
51:47
like everyone remembers what happens and
51:49
I was like his trip. gonna
51:51
apologize. It seems like the natural
51:54
thing to do. But.
51:56
No way we're going with explanations.
51:58
You're Not Apollo. I
52:01
know, I. Can shut
52:03
my mouth off last night
52:05
the like embarrassing morning astor.
52:08
At the water cooler. energy at the
52:10
scene but going and for erections is
52:12
really amazing and really ape and the
52:14
like obscene and see of trip Tucker
52:16
at the scene was really amazing. asked
52:19
it's case if falcons ever did this
52:21
to pause heading back to her people
52:23
with some stories you know like boy
52:25
you guys are gonna believe this Who
52:27
am I was in a cave with
52:30
these for human ass holes. Did.
52:32
You think? Novak of It's
52:34
his condition at this point in the
52:37
episode was also well. I say he'll
52:39
be fine. I. Wasn't sure
52:41
whether to believe that are not. Are
52:43
they still just feeding news to Chip Tucker
52:45
to do this? Dislike keep him so. I
52:48
mean. The back of
52:50
his does not seem. To be dead
52:53
by the end of this. But yes,
52:55
we had that whole moment with flocks
52:57
where he was. Experiencing the
52:59
Greece and the like. And
53:02
the self recrimination of somebody like who could
53:04
have saved a life and didn't. Analysis:
53:06
I yeah, that guy's find. What
53:09
Am I? Here comes the rescue
53:12
shuttle. And that in the
53:14
final scene the crew for wanders through
53:16
the fields of wheat. Toward.
53:18
It. And toward the credits
53:20
to the episode been. Did. You
53:23
like it. I
53:31
liked it. I thought that
53:33
this was a really compelling
53:35
episode. I mean, I think
53:37
that's. A seem I'm starting
53:39
to pick up on his. the inciting
53:41
incident is. An active idiocy.
53:44
like you don't go into
53:46
the haunted house. you
53:48
don't land on the planet let
53:50
your dog sprint out of the
53:52
pods without a leash this is
53:54
why the crew is the wrong
53:56
stuff you can't you can't tell
53:58
fun stories if they're there stuff.
54:00
Right, so as long as we're
54:02
able to set that aside as
54:05
a challenge that I'm experiencing watching Star Trek
54:07
Enterprise, like everything that happens after that, I
54:10
thought was great. Can I ask you a
54:13
related question? Do you like Star Trek
54:15
Enterprise for episodes in? Yeah, I think
54:17
I do. I think I
54:20
do too, and I think I would
54:22
like it more absent the pilot episode. I
54:25
thought the pilot episode wasn't as good as
54:27
the ones that followed. Yeah, like last week's
54:29
episode that we covered, I felt like did
54:32
a lot more to give me a sense
54:34
of a lot of the characters than
54:37
the pilot did. So yeah, I think
54:40
I kind of agree with you. But yeah,
54:42
so far so good. Enjoying. I liked
54:45
the episode fine. I
54:48
think there was a lot of unintentionally funny parts
54:50
of it. I want to
54:52
go back to the Archer-like ability scale and bring it
54:54
back for this episode. I think we're up to five.
54:57
It's half good, half bad, and here's why. I
55:00
love Archer doing the subterfuge at
55:02
the end on Trip
55:05
Tucker. Yeah. I love that way of thinking.
55:08
I love how he helps out his boy,
55:10
you know, like, because they're friendly. He
55:13
doesn't want Trip to do anything stupid. He's
55:16
doing what he can to save a life here and
55:18
also resorts to trickery
55:20
to make that happen. But that first half of
55:22
the episode, when he's addicted to Paul, and he's
55:24
just like swinging his arms and his legs and
55:27
his dog through a strange
55:29
planet, that's idiot shit. Yeah. That's
55:31
bad captaining. That is unforced error
55:34
business. Yeah. I
55:36
like this show more the more
55:39
Archer is de-emphasized as
55:41
a character. I think
55:44
that's where I'm at right now. Well, where
55:46
I'm at right now is on the precipice of the
55:48
priority when inbox. Do you want to join me? Oh
55:52
yeah. Let's emphasize those.
55:54
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56:25
that time when I was in the car and
56:27
I saw you crossing the road? You
56:29
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56:31
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we do here does give that to people
56:58
will never not slightly stun me.
57:00
But I love that feeling too. I
57:03
had a moment like that last night when I was
57:06
cooking dinner and I went into the living room to
57:08
get a dish and just
57:10
burst out laughing as I walked into the living room.
57:12
And my wife was like, what are you laughing at?
57:14
And I was like, something funny somebody said on a
57:16
podcast. I would have to talk
57:18
you through 15 minutes
57:21
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57:23
joke was really funny, but... My
57:27
wife would already have her phone back. As
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It is to you and me. Their message
57:39
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57:42
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57:47
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57:50
the McLaughlin Group issue number drops
57:52
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57:54
what's the highest? Issue 4. When
57:57
You say game of Buckholes, then what's the highest? For
58:04
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58:07
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the answer and the buffet line. Let's
58:16
let's pick these up. I think we
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have four distinct with Laughlin Group he
58:21
su nombre. I suppose we have a
58:23
few different options for two and three,
58:25
but as yeah I think there were
58:28
very few episodes were they were made
58:30
it to your shoe for on that
58:32
show. So yeah, I remember spending like
58:34
an afternoon going through old videos. Of
58:37
Mclaughlin Group episodes looking for one with
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an issue for so that I can
58:41
isolate that audio. Death.
58:43
Tempted to testify and when we
58:45
say game of bottles the will
58:47
of the caretaker for the will
58:49
of the writer in this case
58:51
as as that would say, I'm
58:53
more often than not forget to.
58:57
Put a pause in there and they're
58:59
I feel like an idiot every time
59:01
as at it one of those because
59:03
I'm Tammy How many times the of
59:05
the dude is very remember the fucking
59:07
pause. Oh,
59:10
we have a very related data in that
59:12
sense as a systems. Just
59:14
in reverse there. Are
59:17
finally what's a drop in the catalogue
59:20
you wish used more. The
59:23
admiral that say of Drop is one that I really
59:26
have a lot of fondness for and I think. It
59:29
was created for the last time she
59:31
appeared on Tmz Sir Sir, We've really
59:33
missed the boat with that one more
59:35
than it's like like is you know
59:37
there's no excuse to use the admiral
59:39
the j have dropped because she rarely
59:41
comes up at Roma safe and arrived
59:43
at of. The
59:46
last Cat. China
59:49
My. We
59:54
recently rewards the Godfather Trilogy
59:56
in our household over the
59:58
last few weeks. And
1:00:00
I was reminded by one of
1:00:03
the dialogue polls that you
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used for that. Like, I
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didn't have it. So I bet so many
1:00:09
FODs out there are like, you're... What
1:00:11
the fuck? It's obvious what that was
1:00:13
from. I hadn't seen Godfather II in
1:00:15
forever. I watched God... the first Godfather
1:00:18
over and over again. But it's been a while
1:00:20
since I saw the second. And I was delighted
1:00:23
to be reminded that that's where that was
1:00:25
from. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of those
1:00:27
kismet things where I had just seen that
1:00:30
when I came up with the idea of
1:00:32
that drop. And
1:00:34
that was fresh in my mind. Wendy
1:00:36
knows what mine is. And I
1:00:38
know she'll play it. Well, how do
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you expect me to play it? I'm with your
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fingers. With my
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nose? It would have definite advantages. It's
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you find yourself a drunk shimoda? Incredible!
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Drunk shimoda! I mean, to me, it's
1:01:45
got to be Tripp on this one.
1:01:48
I think just the performance was great.
1:01:50
Like, unhinged, counter-trenere
1:01:52
is a mood. Like,
1:01:58
his hair Also a character.
1:02:00
there are this episode getting like progressive
1:02:02
way crazier. For. They get
1:02:04
an. Add. The Yet:
1:02:06
Like: as I feel like as
1:02:08
an actor it's gotta be kind
1:02:10
of a fun and interesting. Opportunity.
1:02:14
Worse. A character you're just
1:02:16
getting to know and and just getting to
1:02:18
play. To. Have ah your third
1:02:21
time out with him Be a
1:02:23
he's tripping balls this time episode.
1:02:27
As furnace our to tripping in
1:02:29
a different way. My pick is
1:02:32
gonna be Mayweather. I.
1:02:34
Continuing a long tradition
1:02:36
of. Black. Star
1:02:39
Trek actors unnecessarily diving,
1:02:41
ssssss for and under
1:02:43
things. Absolutely. Jordy Love
1:02:45
forges this. Emery doesn't
1:02:48
He hosts it. He
1:02:50
totally does. I
1:02:52
loved it! I. Am as
1:02:55
I want to know more, I want to
1:02:57
go behind the scene on the seem like.
1:02:59
was he directed. Into this. Did.
1:03:01
It to seem like opiates get away
1:03:03
from him. He had to die for
1:03:05
it. How many takes like this is
1:03:07
a sort of practical stuff I'm so
1:03:09
interested in there and wonder if they
1:03:11
had like a. Piece. Of fish
1:03:14
and line on that emery so that
1:03:16
they could like control how was moving
1:03:18
around her. It. Looked so
1:03:20
late in villa we didn't look filled
1:03:22
with them are he didn't look like
1:03:24
there was a lot in their moment.
1:03:27
Millions freeze dried so it was like
1:03:29
yeah don't know I love the same
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as as a Mayweather Dies At that
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gets Madras notice. Asceticism sites are right.
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Well as. Next. Week we're
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going to be watching Star
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Trek Enterprise Season One Episode
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Five Unexpected. After discovering
1:03:45
the presence of a damaged
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alien vessel, Archer dispatches
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Tucker to it's aid but the
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engineers encounter with a is a
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really and female. Has. An
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unexpected side effects. Archer.
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meets this i really and female and
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he like turns to the sky unexpected
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you just Kevin sorbos
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Ben you're on your
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way over to the game of
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buttholes the will the Riker quantum
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weep completely randomized 100 tiles
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await so many dangers so
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many threats so many strange ways
1:04:28
to experience the next episode it's
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a roll of the 100 sided
1:04:32
die that will determine our
1:04:34
fate yeah it's gonna be you're required to
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learn as you play roll
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okay well we are currently on square
1:04:41
87 and I'm rolling oh boy
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we just narrowly
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missed another square at aware
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on square 48 right next
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door to a bread stick
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power hour I have
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to eat the entire breadstick every
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minute but seems like possible I
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think you just need to choose your breadsticks wisely
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like to the super skinny ones
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that they come in the cup at the
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Italian restaurant yeah god
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it's a brutal square Jesus I'm so
1:05:23
glad I missed that there's
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so many fun things on this game board
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and because it's totally randomized every every
1:05:30
week you'd never know where you're
1:05:33
gonna end up yeah it's great it's just
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like enterprise and
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just as terrifying well
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regular episode next week thank you
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great Adam Ragusea who
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arranged our parody of
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the Star Trek Enterprise
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theme you really appreciate
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at you next week with another great
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