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Welcome to The Greatest Generation. It's a Star

1:05

Trek podcast by a couple of guys just

1:07

a little bit embarrassed about having a Star

1:10

Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm

1:12

Ben Harrison. I found

1:14

myself on a production

1:16

set yesterday. Well...

1:18

For the first time in a long

1:20

time. It brought some feelings

1:23

back. Were you directing something?

1:25

Tell me everything, Adam. I

1:28

was on a very unfamiliar side

1:31

of that production, which was I

1:33

was the talent. I

1:35

was the talent wrangler, Ben. Ripley

1:38

was scouted by

1:40

enormous dog food company. Wow.

1:43

They were looking for a Wheaton, a

1:45

Wheaton Terrier. That's the kind of dog

1:47

Ripley is. And they wanted one

1:50

of a specific size. Did they want one

1:52

of a specific temperament? Which

1:55

is insane. Thunderstorm

1:58

in a teapot? They did. mention

2:00

temperament but you know how

2:02

there's there's like assistant slack

2:05

mm-hmm there's like wheat and terrier slack there's

2:08

like there's a network of wheat

2:11

and terrier people that talk and

2:13

I'm not a part of this but I

2:15

heard I heard from someone in it that

2:17

they were looking and so we

2:19

sent a couple of pictures in and

2:21

those pictures were swiped right

2:25

I never know which direction the good swipe is

2:28

that's why I paused I was like I hope that means

2:30

what I think it means we

2:33

had professional Hollywood animal wranglers and

2:35

trainers come to our home and

2:38

work with Ripley together to do this

2:40

specific thing that they needed to do

2:43

and like at home and at

2:46

spawn ranch basically which is where we went

2:48

a couple of days ago we

2:51

were deep out in those

2:53

hills yeah at like

2:55

a wild animal training

2:57

and sanctuary like they had lions and

2:59

monkeys and and crazy shit out there

3:02

it was like the set of nope

3:04

yeah basically we went out

3:06

there for a training session things were going great

3:08

and the shoot day was yesterday so we

3:11

went over to Culver City into one of the

3:14

hundreds or thousands of box

3:17

production spaces there where

3:20

it was set up for a still

3:22

photo shoot with all the

3:24

trimmings and a

3:26

what I learned later who was

3:29

a very famous photographer like a

3:31

photographer of some renown hmm was

3:33

in there and it was

3:35

Ripley and ten other dogs and

3:39

all of the other dogs were not

3:41

Wheaton's there was another Wheaton and nine

3:44

other different breeds and we

3:46

were run through an entire

3:48

day of still photographs and

3:52

Ripley didn't get the part oh

3:54

no it went to

3:56

the other Wheaton Oh pissed Oh

4:00

Oh, so she's not gonna be like on

4:02

bags of dog food or anything? She will

4:04

not. And they prepared me,

4:07

they were like, look, there's a chance, you know,

4:09

we could kind of use

4:12

Photoshop magic, you know, put Ripley's

4:15

head on another body or vice

4:17

versa into some grotesque

4:19

monstrosity that kind of resembles

4:22

your dog but isn't. I'm glad we didn't go

4:25

in that direction. Instead, it's just thumbs down. Didn't

4:28

work out. And it didn't work out because she

4:30

couldn't do the trick. She

4:33

got some stage fright. And I get

4:35

it. Like if you've never been to a set

4:37

of any kind before and you see like the

4:39

12 by 12 scrim and

4:42

you see the eight strobes

4:45

all around and you see people you're not

4:47

familiar with trying to get you to do

4:49

a thing and their sounds and stuff, like

4:52

you might want to blame Ripley. I'm not

4:54

blaming Ripley, it just wasn't her scene. It

4:57

wasn't your scene, man. Yeah,

4:59

we took my son to a pediatrician

5:02

checkup the other day and he's

5:04

normally a very outgoing, like

5:07

talkative little baby and

5:10

just clammed up when the doctor was in there and

5:12

we were like, this sucks. Like we want the doctor

5:14

to like him and have like a positive, we want

5:16

him to have a positive relationship with her. And he

5:18

was like, he was totally

5:22

just like, a weird place, weird

5:24

room. I don't know what's going on

5:26

here. When did you start

5:28

to have a positive relationship with going

5:30

to the doctor? Because Ben, like it

5:32

took me until I was a full

5:34

on adult because every time my parents

5:37

would bring me to a pediatrician, it

5:39

was shot time. I felt

5:41

bad about it leading up to it

5:44

enduring every time. It has been

5:46

interesting to watch because like when they're really little,

5:49

or at least when he was really little, the shots

5:51

didn't seem to face him at all. Like you might

5:53

get a little, you know, from, you know, and

5:57

I've really feel for these nurses because they just like.

6:00

spend all day like poking babies and

6:02

making them cry. Like so

6:04

many of the people visiting a pediatrician are

6:06

little babies because when they're really little, you

6:09

have to go like, you

6:11

know, when they're really, really little, you go once a week

6:13

and then you stretch it out to once every other

6:15

week and then once a month. Yeah. I

6:17

mean, when you go to a pediatrician, it's just little

6:19

kids and then Benjamin R. Harrison until he's like 26.

6:24

True. But

6:29

so far, he has generally liked the

6:32

adventure of going out there and

6:35

you've actually met up with me a

6:37

couple of times when we went to

6:39

the pediatrician because there's a good sushi

6:41

restaurant downstairs from her office and we've

6:44

had lunch over there. Good burger place

6:46

downstairs too. Also that. But yeah,

6:48

I wouldn't blame Ripley at all.

6:50

That is a high pressure environment

6:54

and yeah, I

6:56

mean, a dog has even less

6:58

context than a almost two

7:00

year old baby for something like that. You know

7:03

what I was really proud of her for was

7:06

the in between eight and

7:08

10 hours we spent at this place, she

7:11

was absolutely cool. Like

7:13

there's nothing she likes more than

7:15

a cold floor. Concrete floors abound.

7:18

Like she was just chill and

7:20

resting on a cold floor and just waiting

7:22

and I was waiting. And that was our

7:24

day for our 15 minutes

7:26

of strobe clicks and

7:28

a gentle turn down.

7:32

I hope you got some video of her being

7:34

chill because that's something I would very much like

7:36

to see. I'm

7:38

only ever over there for like short

7:41

visits so she doesn't you know, the

7:43

like half life of her excitement is

7:45

like three hours. So usually

7:47

I go visit and she does not stop

7:49

flipping out the entire time I'm there. I

7:51

think that's an example of how long it's

7:53

been since you've come over to socialize because

7:56

I think she has she has figured it

7:58

out in a way where she. She

8:00

needs to get that out of her system. She

8:02

needs to show you that she's happy that you're here, but

8:05

then she'll go fuck off after, I

8:08

wanna say like 15 minutes. That's amazing.

8:10

She'll chill out. That's a whole new Ripley.

8:12

Well, I gotta stop rudely turning you down

8:14

when you invite me over. I

8:16

had portraits taken of both

8:19

Ripley and me and Ripley by this

8:21

very big photographer, and I'm excited to

8:23

receive them and share them because I

8:25

think they're pretty great. Oh

8:27

man. When do you get the chance? That

8:30

was basically the pay that I needed

8:32

for my day. That's

8:34

a keepsake owl treasure. That

8:37

rules. Well, congratulations on

8:39

having a beautiful dog. That

8:42

isn't quite good enough in some specific

8:44

ways. It's just gonna take practice. Being

8:46

in the industry is about learning

8:49

to live with rejection as kind of

8:51

a constant ambient thing in the background.

8:53

You know what? That's the gift, isn't it? She

8:56

got her first one out of the way. She's

8:59

already had an at bat, and now everything

9:02

after this is just gravy. Love

9:04

it. That's the way to look at it. You

9:07

might say she kicked in the front door

9:09

of the entertainment business, Adam, as

9:11

is done in the cold open

9:14

of today's episode of Star Trek

9:16

Enterprise. It's season one,

9:18

episode seven, the Andorian Incident. ["Fare

9:21

You, Salt A Love"]

9:24

["Fare You, Salt A Love"] A

9:29

director rep for Roxxon Dawson. Yeah.

9:31

Welcome back to Star Trek Roxxon

9:33

Dawson. Yeah, and she's still a

9:37

working TV director. I've seen some

9:39

shows on Apple TV Plus that

9:42

she's directed. I think she

9:44

does a really nice job. If you

9:46

were to make a list of

9:48

the most quiet and boring places

9:50

in the galaxy, how

9:53

close to the top is Vulcan Monastery?

9:56

This place seems like it would. It's

10:03

so funny because we've

10:05

also seen like remote

10:07

Klingon monastery and that

10:10

seems like a party. Like those

10:12

guys. Well, those guys are getting high. I don't

10:14

think these Vulcans are doing that at all. No,

10:17

they're, their vibes are, are just

10:20

tragically chill, tragically slow paced and boring

10:22

and they get interrupted right at the

10:24

top of this by some leather daddy

10:27

and Dorian's who kick in the front

10:29

door waving the four four. This

10:34

is your Andorian incident into

10:37

the credits. Ben, did you

10:39

like that episode? You

10:44

know, the performances were really

10:46

compelling. I missed a lot

10:49

of our kind of main cast, you know, it's

10:51

like kind of one of those ones where it's

10:53

like, Hey, this isn't about them. And I guess

10:55

that's going to have to be okay. But I

10:57

love seeing Jeffrey Combs back in Star Trek. So

10:59

that was a, that was a big thrill

11:01

for me. No, no,

11:03

you creep the hell out of

11:05

me. Instead

11:08

after the theme, we're back on

11:10

enterprise in the ready room and

11:12

Tripp takes great umbrage with

11:14

their use of Vulcan star

11:16

charts to navigate the galaxy.

11:18

He's like, is

11:21

this exploration if we're going

11:23

to places that others have been to

11:25

before? That kind of makes sense. I

11:28

mean, I

11:30

mean, that's like saying like, if, if

11:32

you have a lonely planet guy, did

11:34

you really visit Lisbon or whatever? Great

11:39

counter argument. I

11:41

just think, I think Tripp is being very

11:43

silly in this scene. Like he just wants

11:45

to like stumble around and

11:48

fall face first into trouble. He really

11:50

likes doing that open world video game

11:52

thing where he just goes out as

11:54

far as possible as a level one

11:57

with a rock in your hand. for

32:00

grownups. And you

32:02

will never take the greatest chin

32:05

alive. Ben would rather

32:07

die. Rather die. What? I

32:10

like what this episode does in not

32:12

centering the Jeffrey Combs character as the

32:14

bad guy. You do get a little

32:17

bit into the henches and how

32:20

fucking diabolical they are starting in this scene. Because

32:22

one of the henches is like, you know, we

32:25

could really kind of turn up the temperature on

32:27

the interrogation by starting to cut off some heads.

32:30

What do you think of that? And Shran turns

32:32

to Archer and he's like, what do you think?

32:34

Cut off heads? Is that something

32:37

you could live with, Captain?

32:40

It's on the table. Yeah. The

32:42

Vulcan hostages start,

32:45

like, very insulting

32:47

when Archer is like, he's like been

32:49

beaten to a pulp and he gets dragged back into

32:51

this room and they're like, God, you guys smell. And

32:56

not the smell that a person has when

32:58

they're stressed out or something. Like, this is

33:00

just the basic human smell. The

33:04

problem that Archer tells them, I think,

33:07

is so interesting. He's like, look, I know I'm

33:10

getting my ass kicked here, but that's actually not

33:12

the biggest problem. The biggest problem is even

33:14

though Malcolm was told not

33:17

to do a rescue, if I know Malcolm,

33:19

he's going to do a rescue. And that

33:21

means if he does, we're all dead. I

33:23

didn't recruit my tactical officer to sit on

33:25

his butt when he's threatened. So there's kind

33:27

of a race against time element there. We

33:29

need to get in touch with him and

33:31

tell him not to do that. And then

33:33

the Vulcans are like, well, we

33:35

do have this spooky Star Trek

33:37

cave below us. And

33:40

down in there, there's like a very old piece

33:42

of equipment that we could use as a transmitter.

33:44

Who knows if it works, but, uh, boop.

33:47

And it's like

33:49

a, like an Indiana Jones, like turn

33:51

the pot on the pedestal and the

33:53

door opens thing. The

33:56

very Pee Wee Herman looking

33:58

Vulcan is the one

34:00

who volunteers to go with them. I just

34:04

could not get over the resemblance. Like

34:07

the facial structures there to me. This is

34:09

the Paul Rubens Vulcan. And

34:13

together with some torches he

34:17

and Trip Tucker make their way through the

34:20

catacombs. They

34:22

just licensed that scene from Pee

34:24

Wee's Big Adventure where it's just

34:26

animated eyes creeping through

34:28

the dark. Probably just a

34:31

dog. I

34:33

love how they finally get to the

34:35

transmitter and Trip Tucker's like, he

34:37

stares at it for a second and he's like, alright,

34:40

the thing I gotta do before I

34:42

fix anything that's made from aliens. Oh

34:47

yeah! Would

34:58

you say that the Scorpion is ready? He

35:01

does a lot of drugs before

35:03

getting to work on this transmitter because he

35:05

has to. That's his character. Yeah,

35:07

he's very curious about this other door that they

35:09

don't want him to go through and they

35:12

tell him that goes down to

35:14

the reliquary. Did you know that

35:16

word before it was said on the show? I mean,

35:19

I feel like I've heard it in temple

35:21

contexts. Amazing. I don't

35:23

think I've ever heard that word before. I

35:25

thought it was neat. Fun word! There's

35:28

kind of a long passage of time edit

35:30

here because there's some Andorians that come to

35:32

check on the hostages, but it's like after

35:34

dark now. Yeah. And everybody's back

35:36

in the room and they're pretending to

35:38

sleep and then the second the Andorians

35:41

leave they're like, okay, let's keep fixing them on this

35:43

radio. Watch

35:46

a guy in the corner like taking a night dump. Like

35:50

trying to take advantage of the privacy, like

35:53

the private moment that you probably rarely get

35:55

in a situation like this. It's so funny

35:57

because like typically Vulcans are

35:59

just. unflappable and the guy's

36:01

like, oh, come on.

36:05

You probably have to hover over a pot

36:07

that old, right? Because if you sat down

36:09

on it, you're probably risking breakage. Well,

36:12

and you're just also thinking about all the other

36:14

Vulcan butts that have touched the pot at that

36:16

point. Well, I mean, I

36:18

hypothesize that everyone gets their own pot given

36:20

there are so many pots in this area.

36:23

Oh sure, that's a bad yes and by

36:25

me. I retract the comment. Do

36:27

you hover because it's probably louder

36:29

to sit down on it? Like

36:33

if you're just releasing into a pot, like

36:36

you're probably doing more like musket

36:39

work with what's happening. The

36:41

plop is going to be louder because

36:43

you're not like stopping the sound. But

36:47

here's why I think you hover, science

36:49

fiction. You got to hover in science fiction.

36:57

That's all that needs to be said. I

37:00

believe it. We get a

37:03

little scene where the Vulcans are like, well, we

37:05

have one blanket and there's three of you. So

37:07

we'll offer it to Trip

37:09

and Trip is like, I don't need it. Captain, why

37:11

don't you take it? And Archer's like,

37:14

well, why don't I be chivalrous and

37:16

offer it to Paul who

37:18

has Vulcan strength and is probably

37:21

totally comfortable. But then

37:23

it turns into a like, let's share the blanket.

37:25

You and me get under it together. She's

37:28

like, humans have had a

37:30

terrible history of giving and

37:33

sharing blankets. In

37:35

the course of time, you'll forgive

37:37

me if I don't trust you in this

37:40

exact moment. What the blanket does is it

37:43

provides an opportunity to talk,

37:47

which is what to Paul and Archer do when

37:49

a little bit more of the backstory is revealed

37:51

in this moment. You never want to get the

37:54

sense that somebody that's climbing under a blanket with

37:56

you is kind of holding their nose while they're

37:58

doing it though, right? That's rough.

38:00

Yeah. Yeah, you got to do better than

38:02

that when it's blanket time. Yeah He

38:06

is not sure how they're gonna

38:08

get out of this pickle but the relationship

38:10

between the Vulcans and the Andorians that to

38:12

Paul describes is That

38:14

terrible ignore the bully and he'll get bored

38:17

and go away kind of thing that I

38:19

wish I was never told as a kid

38:21

like right aren't yours hearing this and he's

38:23

like you're getting Atomic wedgies

38:25

from the Andorians all the time

38:28

and guess what they're not

38:30

going away Guess what they're

38:32

threatening to cut off heads Yeah,

38:34

if it comes time to like fight our way

38:36

out of the locker. We're stuffed with are you

38:39

gonna be down for the cause with me and

38:42

Tapal isn't totally Unequivocal

38:45

here, but it seems like

38:48

she's gonna be down for the cause right? Yeah,

38:51

like the the monks are

38:53

like very much writing for Vulcans

38:55

don't respond to violence with violence

38:58

but What we

39:00

learn is that there is has always

39:02

been tension between the Andorians and the

39:04

Vulcans because they're like pretty close in

39:06

the neighborhood And there's a

39:09

treaty that governs this tension but

39:11

there's a lot of Andorians that are

39:13

kind of belligerent and acting somewhat outside

39:16

the terms of the treaty and Yeah,

39:19

like Archer is pretty outraged by this He's

39:21

like you're just gonna let them like rub

39:23

your nose in the dirt and give you

39:25

swirlies and stuff And I mean you're all

39:27

walking around with kick me signs taped to

39:29

your back like have some fucking dignity Yeah,

39:33

and he even says you people What

39:37

do you mean you people back on

39:39

enterprise they get it a transmission from

39:41

that repaired transmitter and trips like Read

39:51

Is this read hey read hey Hey,

39:57

man, whoa Have

40:00

I ever told you that I fucking

40:02

love you, man? Reed,

40:04

I'm so happy for you. Being

40:07

the commander while we're away, I

40:11

knew you'd be good at that. I

40:13

know we're not always gonna work on this

40:15

shit, but I hope we're always friends, man.

40:20

Maybe someday we can host karaoke

40:22

at some kind of convention. Anyways.

40:25

Reed is not chill. Not

40:27

chill. Reed is doing that thing where he's

40:29

yelling when he's the one that can barely

40:31

hear the person on the other line. I

40:34

kinda wish someone directed Reed to dial

40:36

it down a bit, but

40:39

I feel like this is also television law.

40:43

This is how it goes. If you're having

40:45

a technical problem, both people must yell. True

40:48

enough. Yell to sell. There's

40:52

some interesting dilemma in

40:54

the various things they consider about

40:56

how to fight back against the

40:58

Andorians. Like beam a

41:01

bunch of security guys into the atrium or beam

41:03

them into this room and then fight our way

41:05

out. And Reed needs to

41:07

be called off on all of these potential

41:09

plans. We'd ask you to shoot a photon

41:11

torpedo down here, Reed, but you're not exactly

41:13

shooting straight based

41:16

on previous events. The one

41:19

takeaway that Tripp's trying to get Reed

41:21

to understand is, look, do

41:23

not launch the rescue mission. You

41:25

gotta put that off. Like don't attack just yet.

41:28

No one's saying no. We're just saying not

41:30

right now. Give us some time

41:32

to deal with this situation. ["Cause

41:34

You Really Think

41:37

It's Fair Use"] The

41:42

Vulcans continuously reinforce

41:45

that they do not want anyone going

41:47

down into the reliquary. And that

41:49

started to be a little bit suspicious at

41:52

this point. It sucks when

41:54

you're making the escape route out with

41:56

the communion wafers and the

41:58

Vulcans keep on like sweeping the wall. alone

46:01

and there's a great big explosion

46:03

from the mask and a very

46:05

exciting and dynamic firefight with

46:07

a lot of running around and a lot of

46:10

guys getting tagged and two

46:13

of the Andorians get away into

46:15

the catacombs. They jump down through that mask and

46:17

the star fleets are getting ready to chase them.

46:19

The Vulcan monks are fucking pissed that this

46:21

has gone this way. This is like exactly

46:24

the opposite of everything to Paul told

46:27

Archer before they went down here. I

46:31

love the energy of the pee-wee Vulcan. This

46:36

is like the second time in a couple of episodes

46:38

I've thought of Scrooge, but he reminds me of the

46:40

Lee Majors character playing Santa Claus

46:42

when the North Pole gets sieged. He's

46:44

like, this is one Vulcan that's going

46:46

through the catacombs and he like racks

46:48

a shotgun like ready to go in

46:51

with the humans. It's

46:53

great. And Lee, you're

46:55

being a real good boy this year.

46:58

He's ready. It sort of

47:00

seemed like he was down there to hall monitor

47:02

Archer though. Again, like sort of like to Paul

47:04

has been this entire time.

47:07

Like there's sacred relics, which just

47:09

seems to be like ceramic horses and

47:12

tapestries and stuff down there. Let

47:14

me ask you something. Were you

47:16

disappointed with what we saw in the relic query

47:19

before the Rolly door opens? I mean,

47:21

like, I mean, I've been to

47:24

a lot of like garden

47:26

decoration stores in Pasadena so I've seen

47:28

all of this stuff before and in

47:30

that sense it's disappointing. But

47:33

I also know how expensive garden decoration store

47:35

in Pasadena can be. So I know that

47:37

this was like kind of a pretty penny

47:39

worth of stuff. Have you ever tried to

47:41

buy a hanging tapestry? Gonna

47:44

do that in installments. Yeah, well,

47:47

it gets shot down in installments and it

47:49

turns out there's a great big vault door

47:51

down in the relic query. And

47:54

this kind of stops the firefight because

47:56

Archer's like, holy shit, you guys gotta

47:58

come check this out.