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to go into the drawer that she

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90. That Chris

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Brinner. Wait,

1:03

you keep shirts in the

1:05

nightstand? No, what is this? In the

1:08

dresser. Oh, okay. All

1:10

right. You thought this was going to be a

1:12

Fleshlight story? No. It's

1:15

a shirt story. Dear Fleshlight, you'll

1:17

never believe what happened to me a few nights ago.

1:22

She was like, what company is this? Because

1:25

the shirt doesn't look like it's a joke. You

1:29

remember like the Safe Light Jingle? Safe

1:31

Light Repair, Safe Light Replace.

1:33

You know that one? Oh, I don't know that. You

1:35

watch enough TV to hear that commercial? I don't know

1:37

that song. Fleshlight should have a jingle. Fleshlight

1:41

jacks off, Fleshlight feels

1:43

good. Anyways,

1:46

I was like, it's true. I want to be clear. I

1:48

would admit if I'd ever used one, I've never used one.

1:50

I don't know if it feels good. I

1:52

assume they feel good. Masturbation technologies

1:54

are all about that. That's like one

1:57

of the main things. Either they're like...

2:00

explicitly about feeling good or explicitly

2:02

about feeling bad, you know? Bad

2:07

in a good way. Yeah. But

2:09

anyways, yes. She was like, what company is this? And I

2:11

was like, you know, operations,

2:13

net access channel 90. You

2:16

did it. I did the thing. He's doing

2:18

it. Didn't, didn't ring

2:21

a bell for her cause not a

2:23

Star Trek fan. Yeah. And then

2:25

I explained what it, what it was like,

2:27

Oh, it's like a, you know, why did

2:29

you do that? Gift from a fan. This

2:31

is how you get hurt, Ben. And

2:34

we now sell these shirts to pod shop.biz.

2:36

And she was like, all right, but like,

2:38

do you need all this? And I was

2:41

like, I like it. I wear it sometime.

2:44

Don't let her change you, man. That's

2:48

just the thing, dude. It's not bothering

2:50

anyone. It's in your part of the

2:52

drawer. I know. It's in my drawer. Yeah.

2:55

I don't know. Always an opinion about

2:57

how many, how many shirts I have

2:59

for some reason. Oh, but

3:02

you better keep your fucking mouth off of her

3:04

end of the closet. And it's a big trouble,

3:06

right? I

3:09

mean, I'm not trying to make her a villain. She

3:11

was just like, she was incredulous.

3:14

Oh, this is very villainous story. You

3:18

know what you did. And then she

3:20

goes a little deeper in the drawer

3:22

and finds my flashlight. And she's like,

3:25

what is this? Is this your

3:27

idea of sex? This you can

3:30

keep. The other things that

3:32

give you joy. No way. Did

3:35

you ever watch that show, Dave? No, I,

3:39

I love the movie, Dave. Oh, yeah. And not

3:41

watch the show. Show just as good. Really?

3:44

Very different. Uh-huh. He has a, uh,

3:47

a male oriented sex toy in

3:49

that that, uh, hold

3:52

on. It's like just a

3:54

butt. And then there's some legs that come off

3:56

of it to dangle down the side of your

3:58

bed. They're always

4:00

flopping around and looking funny in shots. I

4:03

just picture if my wife did, like I don't

4:05

actually own a sex toy, but if I, if

4:08

my wife found something of mine that was

4:10

for that, it would be that embarrassing, I

4:12

feel like. Ben, in

4:14

the event that this stays in

4:16

the show and Wendy doesn't correctly

4:18

edit it out. You

4:21

have made Bill Tilly's life a living

4:23

hell because now for

4:25

the next couple months, he's going to

4:27

get pictures of sex toys. That

4:30

folks want to send to you used

4:33

lightly used. Please

4:35

don't send pictures of sex toys to

4:38

our consigliere bill Tilly. He's

4:42

not a sex time consigliere in the

4:45

McGodfather parlance. Not

4:47

like that. Well, uh,

4:49

Adam probes

4:52

that have embarrassing results

4:54

are also the topic

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of today's episode. You

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want to get into the

5:07

first Federation mission

5:10

on Star Trek Voyager since the

5:12

beginning of Star Trek Voyager. Do

5:15

you want to get into this? With a pivot like

5:17

that, I feel like we got a good one on

5:19

our hands. Ben, Star Trek Voyager

5:21

season seven, episode 21, friendship one.

5:26

Reaver course. The

5:33

cold open is the friendship one

5:36

cruising through space and it's got a

5:39

super boring speech on a loop

5:41

and some aliens are twisting some

5:43

knobs on the radios, trying

5:46

to clear up the signal. I did like

5:48

that it had the, uh, the plaque with

5:50

the naked man and the naked woman, but

5:52

because it's broadcast TV, they had to tile

5:54

out the naughty bits.

5:56

Everything you're seeing here is

5:58

conveying threat. Like, the

6:01

ship isn't supposed to be threatening, but if you

6:03

don't know what it is and this thing just pops

6:06

up on your screen playing a bunch of music

6:08

you don't understand, like, they

6:10

don't understand what to mean, this

6:12

music. It could be like, Ride

6:14

of the Valkyries, presaging something

6:17

terrible, you know? That would be

6:19

so funny if it was Ride

6:22

of the Valkyries and not sprinkling

6:24

shit. Right? The best people in

6:26

the world are singing loud. It's

6:28

a Romeo Fox. Shall

6:30

we dance? But they have

6:33

no context for this anyway, so it might

6:35

as well be. We should send more menacing

6:37

probes into the cosmos. But

6:40

this is menacing if you don't

6:42

understand the reason for its being,

6:44

right? Yeah, yeah. That's the whole

6:46

point of this episode! I guess

6:49

so, yeah. So this music is

6:51

perplexing to these scientists and this

6:53

thing is falling into their atmosphere.

6:56

They don't know what mean. And that's our cold

6:59

open. After the theme we're

7:01

in the ass lab and Janeway

7:03

catches up with an admiral that looks

7:05

a ton like Philip Baker Hall. He

7:08

really does! Holy shit! He's like

7:11

Philip Baker Hall but with a Mr. Pitt

7:13

accent. You've made first contact with most species,

7:15

and any captain says James Kirk. If

7:17

Philip Baker Hall really got into

7:19

Equinox later in life, this

7:23

would be that Philip Baker Hall. And

7:27

she's kind of catching him up on some

7:29

of the adventures that they've gotten into over

7:32

the last seven years. I

7:35

love the kind of like, I

7:37

don't know, it's like an uncle being told by

7:39

a nephew or a niece

7:42

about, you know, what's going on at

7:44

school like, oh, that's very nice! Yeah,

7:48

don't get the sense that this is really

7:50

doing it for Philip Baker

7:52

Hall. He

7:58

Pivots the conversation into. The

8:00

orders he wants to give. To.

8:02

Voyager and the orders go like this: Friendship.

8:05

One flew over the fence into the

8:07

neighbor's yard. As. I wanted to

8:09

go knock on the door. As.

8:11

A grab her missing a frisbee. Did

8:15

you cloth to be completely fucked

8:18

up? Bad situation on this Admiral.

8:21

It's. Think he slept in his uniform. What

8:23

is happening there? Assists

8:25

is very rumpled though is

8:27

a. We've been on said sell

8:30

the time I see like the very last thing

8:32

you do with. With. An actor about

8:34

to go on camera is like the last

8:36

little wisps of hair, like you're making sure

8:38

everything is just so. How is no one

8:40

on the bed. Maybe

8:44

it's to nipple proximate. like. You know

8:46

how when you hang out lovelier, make

8:48

it into someone's close? Like you get

8:50

it. Going. To be very prescriptive

8:52

about that, you get of earring clear

8:55

of for of the tender places re

8:57

maybe the bad is just too nippy

8:59

earlier in this way like no. No

9:02

costume person months to. Overshoot.

9:05

The beds. You know. Maybe.

9:08

They had fill a bigger hall actual onset

9:10

that day and he was like getting ready

9:12

to do the scene and had some differences

9:14

of opinion with the director was like fuck

9:17

this i'm outta here and like ripped off

9:19

the the uniform and they're like fuck well

9:21

were lit and like we gotta make our

9:23

day so like look at our repelled this

9:26

is now. And

9:28

they just they just grab like a dolly grip

9:30

that happened to with a little bit like so

9:32

a baker hall through the uniform on. This.

9:35

Guy's got that dally grip looked as

9:37

me. Yeah you

9:39

can push me on a daily any

9:41

day. Admiral He has the Are P

9:44

accent of every dolly drip I've ever

9:46

met. Me at the series I have

9:48

my the Admiral out on that I

9:50

got from Ah yes Ah so the

9:52

have a Mclaughlin Group is your one

9:55

where we talk about this mission and

9:57

this probe is super famous. Something.

9:59

that you were about in school, something

10:02

that you memorized the speech

10:04

of. Something that

10:06

could have gotten humanity exterminated many,

10:09

many times over. Should it have

10:11

encountered the wrong alien

10:13

species? I love this. Our ancestors had

10:15

no idea of what was out here.

10:17

It predates Starfleet or the Prime Directive.

10:19

It is like a thing that

10:21

got sent out very shortly after

10:24

Zaphram Cochran's first warp

10:27

flight. Somehow we should have brought

10:29

that Kevin Uxbridge, right? This should have been the

10:31

fence that this thing flew over. Who's

10:35

going to get this out of my yard?

10:39

It's crushed my petunias. I

10:43

have a kilometer square on an

10:45

otherwise dead world that nobody

10:48

visits, and somehow this land's

10:50

here? How dare you?

10:53

Imagine the bad luck. Mayday

10:56

just get a hurl at worst. So,

11:02

yeah, they've got a search grid,

11:05

and they're going to see if

11:07

they can find a little piece of human

11:10

history out here in the D-quad.

11:14

We cut to the bridge where they're doing

11:16

the search. This is not work

11:18

that Janeway or Chakotay are on.

11:21

Tuvok has the con and is

11:23

working with Ensign Kim on this.

11:25

I'm not fucking my way through

11:27

Fairhaven. It's my favorite way of

11:29

relaxing. You search the grid, Harry

11:31

Kim. Well I

11:33

search my own grid. I'm

11:36

told there's a man in a boat somewhere

11:38

in this search grid, and I'm determined to

11:40

find him. I

11:42

think it's cute how much of

11:44

a try-hard everyone is catching

11:47

their first mission from Starfleet, right?

11:50

Yeah. You don't want to do a

11:52

good Job. And Kim is the first

11:54

to get out in front of

11:56

this. He's done some extrapolating to...

12:00

Burrow their search based on stuff that

12:02

they know about that Starfleet might not.

12:04

And. A Works. They. Are

12:06

they pull up on a planet? That's God's.

12:09

The. Kind of anti matter

12:11

radiation that they're looking for.

12:13

Score! Harry Kim. So

12:16

everybody is heads down

12:18

to. Six. Pay to

12:21

get inoculations for their

12:23

trip, and. What? Are you

12:25

know it? Lieutenant Carry is here! I

12:27

love would a bump it is to

12:29

see him. Every time after

12:32

witnessing his death you know,

12:34

ssssss, It's such an interesting

12:36

bit of anxiety that he

12:38

presents and every scene that

12:40

isn't. Like he

12:42

doesn't know, he doesn't know

12:44

he was dead Ssssss. But

12:46

we know when Blt rose

12:49

in to get her poke.

12:52

Paris. Takes great umbrage with the

12:54

idea that that see in her unborn

12:56

child or going to go into harm's

12:58

way and of away from the group

13:00

they have a discussion and builds. he's

13:02

like i need to get out more

13:04

This sucks. And. Paris is like

13:06

well, poisonous atmosphere so that when

13:08

the arguments here it is as

13:11

do I need to tap the

13:13

sign. The media mishaps the same

13:15

next to the Delta flyer that

13:17

says if you are pregnant or

13:19

thank you may be pregnant to

13:21

not board the thrive Yeah, that's

13:24

a persuasive argument. To. V

13:26

and so at The mission

13:28

begins. The. A means to does

13:30

extract and and dream and out of him

13:32

that they will swap rules as they go.

13:34

for a second child he will be the

13:36

one to carry it. He's. Eaten

13:38

he looks as food so he knows

13:41

what it feels like to carry something

13:43

big. The terms about when she says

13:45

you're carrying the next one. Did.

13:48

You notice that he turned and looked

13:50

at Lieutenant Carry and then like turned

13:52

back at her like are you implying

13:54

that it's not mine yet At the

13:57

term Carrying is known among the Voyager

13:59

through his. There as when you lazy

14:01

when marion a democracy. They

14:14

set off serve fairly big

14:16

away team on the Delta

14:18

Flyer going down through the

14:20

chap. ah and in over

14:22

this kind of post apocalyptic

14:24

nuclear winter looking ruins. On.

14:28

This planet surface. It's.

14:30

Clear somebody used to live here. Yeah,

14:32

I mean, no life signs at the

14:34

moment, but there were maybe a long

14:36

time ago. And. Paris sets, The

14:39

flyer down while. A bag

14:41

mans. watches, From behind

14:43

a piece of rubble. Now you

14:45

can trust of back. Always double

14:47

crosser. I call him that of

14:50

course because he is wrapped in

14:52

bags. Yeah here is it was

14:54

like a backup dancer they didn't

14:57

wind up using en masse. Missy

14:59

Elliott been in a butterfly career

15:01

path. He didn't watch the landing,

15:03

he heard it mostly ssssss assists.

15:06

Either that or like a sweet

15:08

it. Darth. Vader yeah

15:10

to Asian her. Love the

15:12

first contact arrows spacesuits get

15:14

and brought back out. I

15:16

loved the boot going into

15:18

the thin layer of ice

15:20

in a puddle on the

15:22

ground. I had to say.

15:25

Outside. Of like the actual

15:27

uniforms that the main cast. Where's.

15:30

The. Value: They're getting out of these He

15:32

V suits. On Voyager

15:34

especially has been incredible. Great

15:37

job! Now. Really?

15:39

Nice to see them. Be.

15:41

A part of can and you know

15:43

it's not just a one off for

15:45

the movies and down there so they're

15:47

like they're walking around it's. That.

15:49

Tom Paris. The. lakes and

15:52

the lieutenant carry walking around the find

15:54

a toy that plays like a midi

15:56

version of the vivaldi song that we

15:58

heard earlier They

16:01

spot some silos that are loaded

16:03

with ICBMs. How are

16:05

you making a toy that looks like

16:07

a bomb like this? I

16:10

was on the edge of my seat during this.

16:13

This reads so much. As

16:16

soon as the music box stops, the

16:19

clown's going to pop out and the whole

16:21

thing's going to explode. It

16:24

looks like the thermal detonator from Star

16:26

Wars. And

16:29

yet it's just a delightful children's toy. I

16:31

guess they're scanning it with

16:33

their tricorders so they would know if

16:35

there was fissile material in it. I

16:38

guess. It just looks very threatening. It looks

16:40

like it's for a gothic child. In

16:43

some caves nearby, Paris,

16:45

Neelix and Cary have split off and

16:48

they find an improvised science lab made

16:50

up out of some scavenged

16:53

junk. But it works. It's

16:55

not just junk. It

16:57

actually works and there's also pieces of Friendship 1

17:00

in there. Yeah, they found

17:02

it. Right there. So

17:04

it seems like it's mission accomplished because they radio

17:06

out to Chakotay and Kim and they're like, hey,

17:08

we found it. We're going to start beaming stuff

17:11

back to the Delta Flyer and Chakotay and Kim

17:13

are like, cool, we'll meet you there. But

17:16

right after this radio transmission ends,

17:18

that's the exact moment where they're ambushed

17:21

inside this cave from a bunch

17:23

more bag men from an elevated position.

17:25

This is like the shower scene in The Rock.

17:28

You can't give up the elevated position.

17:30

You're down there. We're up here. As

17:33

a group, these guys reminded me of

17:35

the Harkonnen soldiers in the David Lynch

17:37

movie. Oh, yeah. And

17:40

one of them is also back on the Flyer. He's

17:42

like rifled through their glove box, which Chakotay

17:44

discovers. I love the idea that the Delta

17:47

Flyer has a car alarm and that car

17:49

alarm is going off when they get back

17:51

to it. It's great.

17:57

Harry Kim gets bonked trying to open

17:59

up a... closet and Chikote phasers

18:02

this guy and they

18:05

start getting hit by antimatter

18:08

weapons from the surface and

18:11

they realize that the rest of the

18:13

away team has been taken hostage and

18:16

Chikote makes a tough choice here.

18:19

He decides to bug out rather than

18:21

sit there and get dead because

18:23

then how are they going to help the hostages? In

18:27

many action movies and some science fiction

18:29

films you run into this moment. This

18:31

is the part from Rambo 2 where

18:34

Erickson decides not to land the topper

18:37

and Rambo's right there with the POW.

18:39

He's right there. There's men down there.

18:42

Our men. No, it's too dangerous. They're

18:44

taking too much fire. So

18:47

Chikote takes the flyer away

18:50

telling Kim that they're just going to have to come back

18:52

later. When it's more convenient.

18:57

So Paris gets to meet the

18:59

leader of these bag men. He's

19:02

a very bubbly

19:04

personality and face. He

19:08

fell out of the meatloaf tree and hit every

19:10

branch on the way down. This

19:13

guy got hit with the meatloaf stick. Yeah,

19:15

he really did. This guy's

19:18

name is Varen. He's

19:20

very pissed off at. He's

19:22

Varen not easy on the eyes. He's

19:28

very pissed off at them for having

19:30

sent this probe and done all the

19:32

damage that they do. He

19:35

hails Voyager and

19:38

Janeway and Chikote run up

19:40

to the bridge to talk to him.

19:44

He's basically your classic hostage holder. He wants

19:46

a helicopter and a bag full of money.

19:48

They're like, what are you talking

19:51

about? Why? We haven't done anything

19:53

to harm you. You committed genocide. You know

19:55

what I love is Varen knows what he

19:57

looks like, so he very specifically chooses not

19:59

to. To make was a face time car. right?

20:02

It is audio only audio only.

20:04

He wants a new planet. A

20:06

planet the doesn't suck and there

20:08

isn't going to. Irradiate.

20:11

Everybody. It's. Sad, you

20:13

know, like when we saw the people

20:15

the in the control room at the

20:17

beginning of the episode handsome Race near

20:19

you hate to see them are bubbly

20:21

like this. So many bubbles. I

20:27

don't know hi I would spell the word I just said.

20:32

And then Dorian. It's unpronounceable. He'd

20:35

considerately gives them three hours

20:38

to make with this. This

20:40

mission to. Take.

20:43

Them off the planet and repopulate them elsewhere.

20:45

Or. Something. None

20:48

specifically bad will happen to these

20:50

hostages. The. I just know that.

20:53

The. Mean, they're going to start getting bubbly

20:55

pretty soon anyway. So the longer they

20:57

don't wear those spacesuits? yeah, So

21:00

a in six bay Doctor Mark

21:02

oh hi Mark explains that the

21:04

bags that everybody wears down on

21:07

that planet. Or impregnated with

21:09

the same mineral that in the

21:11

Star Trek caves down there, which

21:13

provide some but not all of

21:15

the protection one might want from

21:17

the type of radiation this planet

21:19

has. And also like

21:21

they're birdies are totally the radiated in

21:23

this way that. Explains. Why

21:26

they were able to detect life science

21:28

when they pulled into orbit. This is

21:30

sets a moment of restraint. In

21:32

the face of something that could be really funny.

21:35

Like the way the doctor

21:37

holds up these beasts threaded

21:39

bags. And

21:42

comments on how like ill suited to

21:44

the task they are. Like. Read

21:46

he could go any number of directions with as

21:48

he could fill them with meat loaf. And

21:53

does have it's spill out onto the floor. imagine

21:56

this picture of i see is really a gallon

21:58

of your please This is the

22:00

guy that we brought up from the surface.

22:03

Flomp. Hefty,

22:05

hefty, hefty. Whippy, whippy.

22:11

I'd forgotten that they'd brought a guy

22:13

up and then the camera swings

22:15

over and there he is under the arch

22:18

on the bio bed. The guy they brought

22:20

up isn't the guy Chikote shot trying to

22:22

get at Kim, right? Or what? It

22:25

is, yeah. I thought there were two people in there. No.

22:28

Okay. And

22:30

Mark believes that this guy is

22:33

treatable even though he's even bubbler

22:35

than Varen. He

22:37

seems to hold no ill will about being

22:40

shot. I thought that was good of him.

22:42

Yeah, he's chill. He's chill about it. Yeah,

22:45

so he explains like, oh yeah, so before

22:47

your probe showed up, none of us had

22:49

ever heard of antimatter. So

22:52

we obviously put two and two together that

22:54

you are the types of

22:56

aliens that go around exterminating

22:59

all the locals on a planet by

23:01

giving them technology that they won't understand.

23:05

And Janeway is like, if we wanted to

23:07

steal your planet from you, why would we

23:09

contaminate it with this shitty radiation? Like, that

23:12

sucks. Yeah. Look at

23:14

you. We don't want a planet that

23:16

makes you look like that. Why would we do

23:18

that? Janeway is like, I am attracted

23:20

to all

23:22

kinds of people but I'm just

23:25

going to say, I'm

23:28

going to look in the

23:30

middle distance in order to finish

23:34

this conversation. She's

23:36

like, how could you think that about us? And he's like,

23:38

look at the evidence. And she's like, oh

23:41

God, don't make me look. Make

23:44

me look anymore. I'm

23:47

going to take a

23:50

picture of you. The

23:55

story this guy, Orton tells, doesn't

23:58

seem completely crazy. From

24:00

his perspective, the idea of like

24:03

knowledge inspiring you to

24:05

self Chernobyl yourself ahead

24:08

of some conquering force to

24:11

come later and clean up

24:13

like yeah self Chernobyl or

24:15

auto Chernobyl is another way they refer

24:18

to that. You don't know anything about

24:20

anything and this is your first contact

24:23

like you kind of get it. Yeah,

24:25

I get on this guy's level. I

24:28

mean not with how he looks. I mean my

24:30

acne isn't that bad. God

24:36

these guys are really tough to look

24:38

at. Yeah, like they kind of give

24:40

the video to run for their money

24:42

and the gross loaf department. If

24:45

we were going to have a Mr.

24:48

Or Mrs. Delta quadrant

24:51

pageant only it was

24:54

like for loaf. Yeah,

24:56

we're slamming the grossest loaf who

24:59

wins in a video and

25:01

versus whoever these guys are.

25:05

I think I think it's these guys. It's more

25:07

upsetting to me. Yeah, I think so too.

25:10

So when the caves carry is

25:12

in pretty bad shape. And

25:14

I'm scared for him a lot.

25:18

Yeah, but there's also a pregnant woman

25:20

in the caves and she

25:22

seems to be a little

25:25

kinder than the rest of the folks. She

25:27

gives Paris some water for the washcloth that

25:29

he's using on Carrie's head wound

25:31

and Paris kind of tries to do that

25:33

thing that hostage bonding thing you tried

25:35

to do what you want to do if you're a

25:37

hostage is like make yourself

25:39

into an actual person

25:42

instead of just. And about

25:44

to die person right got a humanizer

25:47

so that a hostage taker would prefer

25:49

yeah but that can backfire when you

25:51

realize you're not talking to a human

25:53

you can only hear yourself and

25:56

can especially backfire when the way

25:58

you're trying to. establish

26:01

commonalities with that person is by

26:04

talking about how you're also expecting

26:06

a little one and not really

26:08

reading the room on how hard

26:11

it must be to have live

26:13

birth on a planet that's this fucked

26:15

up. The thing that, that hurts the

26:18

most is that Paris does that thing

26:20

to try to find like common cause

26:23

and assumes that she's pregnant and

26:26

she's not. Paris, you

26:28

can't just do that. Oh,

26:31

that's not nice. It turns

26:33

out the loaf goes all the way down when

26:35

you're exposed to this level of radiation. Yeah.

26:38

It's just another bubble. We're

26:40

very bubbly because of the radiation and

26:42

that's a really particularly big one in

26:45

a certain spot. God, this conversation

26:47

is so rugged because it goes

26:49

down the road so far before

26:51

the payoff. You see

26:53

it coming far sooner than Paris

26:55

does though. Like Paris is almost

26:58

willfully obtuse in this moment. Am I making

27:00

any sense here? By the end of it,

27:03

we learned that this mother has really been

27:05

through some shit and suggests that, you know, Dr.

27:09

Mark may be able to

27:11

help in a situation like this, but

27:13

before he gets an answer from

27:15

her, she just turns away after

27:18

having endured a pretty difficult conversation with

27:20

a stranger in this moment. In

27:23

the AS lab, we learned

27:25

that there are about 5,500 people still struggling to

27:27

get by

27:30

on this planet and

27:33

the closest M class planet that

27:35

they could move these people to

27:38

is far enough away that it

27:40

would take them three years worth of work

27:42

to take people

27:45

back and forth, you

27:47

know, using the limited capacity

27:50

that Voyager has. And

27:53

this is just kind of a non-starter. Like

27:55

we're not setting everything aside for three fucking

27:57

years for these people, even though this is

27:59

kind of. our fault. Chaineway's take

28:01

is so weird here. She's like, our

28:04

reputation is already so bad with these folks that

28:06

I don't want to go in there and like

28:08

storm the castle and save the

28:11

hostages. Like that would just

28:13

reinforce our reputation. But what

28:15

the hell? Like these Lofi

28:17

survivors on the planet, like they're the

28:20

only ones who believe this

28:22

shit about the Friendship One. Like they're not

28:24

saying shit to anyone. They're

28:27

Lofi survivors. I'm a Lofi

28:29

survivor. I love Rishon.

28:32

And I want to know why this probe is

28:34

in my backyard. I'm just

28:36

supposed to mow around the probe? Hey,

28:39

the Federation, are you not going to

28:41

fix your divot? So

28:45

in Six Bay, Seven arrives

28:47

to give some nanoprobes to Dr. Mark.

28:49

We never really see her extract them

28:51

from herself, right? She's always coming

28:54

in from the outside. This must

28:56

be done in private. Yeah.

28:59

I like that it's like a 12

29:01

ounce soda can of nanoprobes. Or

29:04

like those blank cans that have nothing

29:07

printed on them that

29:09

like really small microbreweries use.

29:11

I love that. This dude

29:13

Otran is like, what did

29:15

you say you extracted? From where?

29:20

I love this guy. I love

29:22

a never heard of a Borg and therefore

29:24

not afraid of him alien. He's

29:27

just curious about this and

29:29

is like super down to get

29:32

treated for bubble. And

29:36

she talks to him a little bit about how

29:38

this is going to fix him up. And

29:41

also, you know, I think plants

29:43

some seeds that maybe this isn't

29:45

the place full of ghoulish monsters that are

29:47

trying to steal your planet that

29:50

you thought it might be. Yeah. He

29:53

seems different from the other guy. That's for sure. Down

29:56

in the Star Trek caves. Carrie is

29:58

really not doing super well. They've put

30:00

a bandaid around his

30:02

head, but they're starting to

30:04

succumb to radiation sickness. And

30:08

I guess they're not being allowed to

30:10

sit there in their spacesuits, which would have

30:12

been nice. Yeah, they don't get to

30:14

keep any of their own tech. That's kind of an

30:16

ongoing problem for the hostages. In

30:18

the shadows emerges a

30:22

meatloaf girl. And

30:24

the group goes into a kind of

30:27

baby talk with her that is just

30:29

so grating and patronizing. She

30:31

does not like this. She does

30:33

not like that Neelix is different from them.

30:36

They try to ply her with the kid's toy

30:38

that they found on the surface. The second she

30:40

hears the song it makes, she's like, no, no,

30:43

not that zone! This

30:47

is a kid that's watched Miriam

30:49

friends die on a playground

30:52

after playing with these bomb

30:55

toys. So,

30:58

Varen for some reason has a

31:01

meeting with Neelix. Neelix, being

31:03

the chief morale officer and

31:05

diplomat, decides to

31:08

try to persuade him that humans

31:10

aren't so bad. And

31:13

he would like to negotiate between

31:15

Varen and the captain in all

31:17

ongoing communication. It's

31:19

a real metreon cascade

31:21

game, recognized antimatter radiation

31:24

game situation. He's

31:26

like, my planet went through something very

31:28

similar. Fatal flaw though. We talk

31:30

about this all the time. Do not get

31:32

into a trauma measuring contest with someone who's

31:34

grieving. Just like, be

31:36

there for the person that's grieving without making

31:38

it about you. I mean,

31:41

Varen does ask, is that why your

31:43

face is like that as part of

31:45

the conversation? Hey, I

31:47

noticed you're into foot stuff. If

31:51

you take off that pregnant lady's boot, you're

31:54

going to see some crazy shit down there. Some

31:57

verbal like you've never believed. You

32:00

know how these negotiations go with

32:03

hostage takers in movies? They

32:05

ask for the bag of money in

32:07

the helicopter and then the negotiator replies

32:10

with, why don't you free one of the

32:12

hostages and we'll

32:15

get you some pizzas and a

32:17

bus ticket? Yep. Yep.

32:20

That is what Janeway calls

32:22

up and offers and Veron's

32:24

like, cool, yeah, sounds great,

32:26

and it's Lieutenant

32:29

Kerry ready to beam up and

32:31

phasers him like

32:34

as he is dematerializing, I

32:36

guess. So we don't actually

32:38

see this on camera. I was just going to

32:40

say that. How do you do

32:43

Josh Clark like this? Like

32:45

the actor who plays Kerry, he

32:47

gets shot off screen and he

32:50

arrives dead off screen. You

32:52

want to have your death scene if you're an

32:54

actor. But I guess you could say

32:56

he already had his, so maybe that's the point

32:58

of this. Yeah, it's

33:01

sad to see him go, but

33:03

we do like to watch him leave. What an ass

33:05

on Josh Clark. What

33:08

a bad guy move for

33:10

Veron though. I

33:12

like the move for him to

33:15

cement himself as the alpha here. This

33:18

really heightens the danger

33:20

that we feel for

33:22

the other two hostages

33:24

and demonstrates his

33:27

resolve. I think Janeway realizes

33:29

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33:31

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33:33

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theme How

37:22

dare you do that to Carrie? In

37:26

the caves, the pregnant woman keeps

37:28

talking to Tom Paris, and it

37:31

seems as though she's willing to switch sides.

37:34

It's a very quick scene, but it's

37:36

just meant to remind you that she's

37:39

going to be a figure in all this. Yeah,

37:41

and that the people on this

37:43

planet are not a monolith, that

37:46

Varen doesn't speak for everyone 100% of the

37:48

time. And

37:50

that's, I think, further established in

37:53

this scene with Otran in

37:55

Six Bay. Seven's nanoprobe

37:57

treatment of him has started to...

38:00

to soothe some of

38:02

the boils on his face. When

38:04

Otran unties his hair

38:06

and lets one half fall

38:08

across his face, that

38:11

one half is beautiful.

38:17

I thought he was just kind of like

38:19

artsy and weird, but in

38:21

fact, he's super fuckable. This bed

38:23

only pays half at this point.

38:26

My bed? My bed?

38:29

Am I a fucking bed? Seven

38:31

tells Otran the kind of

38:33

bad news, which is like, hey, nanoprobes

38:35

work great for you, but you gotta want

38:37

the nanoprobes for them to work. And

38:40

Varen isn't interested in taking

38:42

them or giving them to anyone else.

38:45

But you know, a new

38:47

leader could rise, and

38:49

half of you could be that leader,

38:52

Otran. The good-looking

38:54

part, I mean. The part with Riz.

38:58

Maybe if you just face this way in

39:01

all of your speeches. The part

39:03

whose hair doesn't look like rusty

39:05

steel wool, I think, has

39:07

a political future. You

39:09

remember Aaron Eckhart's role as

39:12

Two-Face in the Batman movie?

39:14

Like, how even though you totally

39:18

destroyed half of his face and

39:20

make it look monstrous and

39:22

grotesque, like, goddamn, if

39:25

the other half still isn't Aaron Eckhart,

39:27

still a great-looking guy, like, that could

39:29

be you. That's what I'm saying. Here,

39:31

let me pop in this tape to

39:33

demonstrate. They

39:37

talk about the idea of learning from

39:40

one's mistakes. Ever heard of it,

39:42

Otran? And meanwhile,

39:44

down on the surface, Paris is

39:47

getting roped into helping this pregnant

39:49

lady with her delivery because it

39:53

seems like the baby is coming early

39:55

and he's the most trained medic around.

39:58

It makes me wonder how pi- the

40:01

Lightning Crashes music video from live

40:03

was around this moment because we

40:05

kind of get a Lightning Crashes

40:07

music video moment here

40:09

when we crosscut from

40:12

in the caves to outside of the caves

40:14

when the Delta Flyer landing

40:16

party comes in because like the

40:19

contractions start and oh it's too early

40:21

and Parrish is like can I look

40:23

at your vagina I

40:26

can't do it without the med kit like

40:29

and then they cut to the

40:31

outside and and people are getting ready

40:33

with the weapon and then inside things

40:35

are really going sideways and

40:37

the Lightning is starting to

40:39

go off outside the Luffy

40:41

baby opens her eyes

40:47

I mean in the dust special clubs coming

40:49

in hot outside the caves and oh no

40:51

oh oh no Ben

40:53

we're we're seeing a dead wet baby

40:55

yeah this does not look good

40:57

it's scary and like Tuvok gets captured by

41:00

a bunch of these bag

41:02

men they put a clip show

41:04

device on the baby and it's like what clips

41:06

are there even of this baby this baby's brand

41:09

new what are they gonna show it it

41:11

doesn't seem like it's gonna work until it

41:13

does look the

41:15

baby's not blue anymore everyone's

41:18

really happy yeah and and

41:20

Tuvok's perp walked in right

41:22

at this moment and he's

41:24

held it at dust buster point

41:26

by another bag man but this

41:28

isn't a bag man it's

41:31

the doctor and they start

41:33

shooting everyone after they

41:36

killed the first two guards they didn't

41:38

hesitate pop guard number three because what

41:41

difference does it make did you notice

41:43

what Tuvok did he gets the dust buster

41:45

tossed to him and he neck pinches

41:47

Varen while shooting another guy at the

41:50

same time he's like the raisin bran

41:52

son in this scene he's got two

41:54

scoops of badass getting dropped

41:56

on these folks The

42:00

mother who was recently given birth,

42:02

it seems to be back in close and

42:04

holding her baby in a way that I

42:07

was trying to remember when my wife gave

42:09

birth. I feel like there was

42:11

a long time in between pushing the baby

42:13

out and being ready to have a

42:16

conversation with somebody. I

42:18

mean, being ambulatory. This

42:22

lady is just walking around, having conversations. Yeah,

42:24

and Paris is like, no, I really got

42:26

to take your baby up to the ship

42:28

where we can actually treat it medically. And

42:30

she's like, all right, well, yeah,

42:33

hope you bring the baby back. Lots

42:36

of trust. Why can't she come

42:38

with the baby? Great question.

42:41

I don't know. Maybe

42:44

she's covered in so much loaf.

42:46

Like the transporter can't... Can't

42:48

lift it. Can't recompile her.

42:51

It's too heavy for her. Paris

42:56

is like, see, I wasn't

42:59

so off base. I

43:02

mean, I feel like the change board can't

43:04

even do anything with you. So,

43:08

baby is given. Baby is beamed away and

43:10

in six bay. Baby

43:12

is getting better as Janeway

43:14

and Dr. Mark watch over him. And

43:17

the captain's orders at this point are to

43:19

leave. And Paris is like

43:21

with the baby. He's like,

43:23

no, we beamed the baby back down and then

43:26

we leave. And Paris and

43:28

Kim have a real hard time with us because they're like,

43:30

can't we just fix the

43:32

radiation problem that you could

43:35

argue we kind of caused? They don't

43:37

have to give consent for this. This

43:39

is an unconsensual radiation fix that

43:42

we want to do and I think we should be able to do it. And

43:44

Janeway is so cold in this scene, isn't she?

43:46

She's like, why would I help the people that

43:48

killed Carrie? And Paris

43:51

has an interesting point, right? She's like, it

43:54

wasn't all of them like you said, Ben,

43:56

earlier. It wasn't just some

43:58

monoculture of assholes. It was just one of them

44:00

that's bad. Yeah, don't judge them

44:03

by the one asshole. They're

44:05

good loaves on both sides. Oh boy.

44:10

Right? So,

44:15

yeah, there's this plan that like

44:17

Otran had something to do with

44:19

coming up with the theoretical basis

44:21

for a little bit reminded

44:23

me of that moment in Oppenheimer where

44:26

they're like getting ready

44:28

to try a nuclear bomb for the

44:30

first time and they're like, non-zero chance

44:32

this sets the atmosphere on fire and

44:34

destroys the entire planet? Just

44:36

letting you know, like we did the math, we

44:38

think it's pretty unlikely. It is

44:40

that. So basically what

44:43

they have to do is set

44:45

off this chain reaction that will

44:47

neutralize the radiation in

44:49

the atmosphere. And Otran who's doing

44:51

even better, he's now sexy

44:53

on both sides, demonstrates

44:56

this right next to the warp core

44:58

and... Try

45:00

to imagine this farty smoke in

45:02

this tube is the radiation. Now

45:05

watch as we've introduced Oder-Eaters

45:08

brand insoles. Yeah,

45:12

so they got to use

45:14

photon torpedoes to atomize the

45:16

insoles and spread them throughout

45:18

the atmosphere. Otran

45:21

goes back down to the planet and everybody's

45:23

like just ignoring how great

45:25

he looks somehow, like it doesn't

45:27

come up. This

45:29

part drove me nuts. Like

45:32

I've got to believe that a

45:35

significant amount of these people are

45:37

looking at him going like completely

45:39

absent of any other concern for

45:41

the planet or their well-being are

45:44

like, I would give anything to look

45:46

like that. Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately

45:49

as he pitches this idea to

45:51

the group, Varen is there

45:53

and Varen is still

45:55

being a bit of a Karen. You're

45:59

being irrational. What's irrational

46:01

is cooperating with the enemy. He's like, yeah,

46:03

well, what about all the people that are

46:05

dead? What about them? And Otran

46:08

is like, yeah, I don't know what to tell

46:11

you, man. Like there's not a chain reaction we

46:13

can set off in the atmosphere on their behalf.

46:16

But they decided to give

46:19

this thing a try. It is great

46:21

seeing the ship zoom through the atmosphere

46:23

and start shooting torps.

46:26

Yeah. Watching them go off. I love this. Yeah,

46:29

it's really cool. And it

46:31

turns into one of those, like, you

46:34

know, Otran and Varen are like at

46:37

loggerheads and then like, you know, the

46:39

guys are pointing guns everywhere and the

46:42

guys with the guns like are not taking

46:44

orders from Varen anymore. Now he's not good

46:46

looking enough to take orders from at this

46:48

point. I hope you fucking die,

46:51

Harley-Davies. Get him

46:53

out of here! It's just a popularity contest

46:55

at the end of the day, isn't it? Yeah.

46:59

Whoever's handsome-ist. Always has been. But

47:02

this is like, this is no joke, right?

47:04

Like the bangers are really intense, like tons

47:06

of dust is coming down on them in

47:08

their Star Trek caves. And this is a

47:10

military installation where you only need one set

47:12

of keys to open the silo

47:15

doors and launch the nukes. Yeah.

47:18

It feels pretty dangerous here at the end. It

47:20

does. Varen gets really close to

47:23

firing one off, but fortunately

47:25

has stopped. They all go

47:27

outside and see the atmosphere starting to clear and

47:29

they don't even have to wear their bags anymore.

47:32

A little meatloaf girl leads them

47:34

to the sunshine. Pretty

47:36

nice. Finally we

47:39

get a scene after Janeway's

47:41

log updating us that Friendship

47:44

One is in their cargo bay now. They're

47:46

taken at home. But the

47:48

death of Carrie is hitting everyone pretty hard.

47:52

And Janeway sits at, this is

47:54

Carrie's quarters, right? That

47:56

was my interpretation, yeah. Because he's got his

47:58

ship in a bottle. been making

48:00

a Voyager model in a bottle.

48:03

Janeway's gone through all of Carrie's

48:06

personal effects and is like, look

48:09

at this very embarrassing polo shirt I

48:11

found to Chicoate.

48:15

Why would he have this? It's a

48:17

Brinner Information Systems shirt. What an

48:19

idiot. What

48:22

she spends a lot of time with is this ship

48:24

in a bottle that Carrie's been working on. And

48:28

there it is, Voyager inside a bottle. How do you

48:30

think he made it? Seems

48:32

impossible. And she gets all wistful in

48:34

this scene. She's like,

48:37

what must it have been like to

48:39

be visited by this giant floating

48:42

jukebox that

48:45

caused them to auto Chernobyl

48:48

so many years ago. Like, why

48:51

do things like this happen when all we're trying to

48:53

do is explore? Is

48:55

the action worth the juice? Is

48:58

really the big takeaway. This is a question without an

49:00

answer. This is how the episode ends. I

49:02

mean, for Chicoate, the action is the juice.

49:04

Yeah. How'd you like this episode,

49:06

Ben? I

49:17

really liked it. I thought it was, uh, I

49:19

mean, like, I think

49:21

that maybe like the one thing I

49:24

sort of wish they had done

49:26

was make this something that went out post

49:29

the foundation of the Federation

49:32

and Starfleet, like make it

49:34

something that they do bear a little bit

49:36

more guilt over. Right.

49:39

Because they, they don't feel

49:41

responsible for this because it

49:43

predates every official type of

49:45

space sharing mission. Earth

49:48

had ever done. They could sort of

49:50

blame it on the cavemen space guys. Right.

49:52

Throwing their shit up into space. And

49:55

I think that that would make it

49:57

a slightly stronger metaphor for, you know,

50:00

colonial. colonialism and the like things that

50:02

have fucked up all of

50:04

the places that Europe fucked up in

50:06

the past. Like it seems like that

50:08

is like pretty explicitly what the metaphor

50:10

is about. And I

50:12

mean, I think that it

50:14

can often feel really hard to

50:17

take any ownership over shit that

50:20

happened in the past like that for anyone. Right.

50:23

But like colonialism is not

50:25

a an apt comparison

50:27

here. This is like pure exploration.

50:29

Right. Well, yeah,

50:31

it was like pure, hey, what's up, worthy

50:33

earth, send us a note if you get

50:36

this and but like the

50:38

the fallout is so is so grave that

50:40

I kind of wished that I

50:43

mean, I think it makes it a much

50:45

harder episode to write because so

50:48

many of the feelings surrounding these

50:50

things and like the

50:52

way we grapple with, you

50:54

know, the the crimes of the past are are

50:57

hard issues that I

51:00

don't think anybody has like a really perfect answer

51:02

for. But but like, again,

51:04

do you really feel like this is a

51:06

crime? What's happened here? Like, well, that's what

51:08

I'm saying is I kind of wished that

51:10

they had made that I wish that they

51:12

had written the premise a little bit more

51:14

right having been. Yeah. Yeah.

51:18

This is like incident versus intent.

51:20

Yeah. So that aside, I

51:22

think that they did a great job with

51:25

the premise that they wrote for. And

51:28

yeah, that I thought it was a really

51:31

interesting episode. I just

51:33

wanted to see more of these people unburdened

51:35

of their loaf by the end. Like, I

51:38

wanted to see the pregnant lady cured. I want

51:40

to, you know, I kind of wanted to see

51:43

Varan cured so that he could like

51:45

have a moment where he's like, oh,

51:47

fuck, like I was like so hardened

51:49

and angry about everything. I

51:52

mean, probably just not enough time in

51:54

the episode for it. But yeah,

51:57

have Harry Kim find a

51:59

sexual. Opportunity down there.

52:01

Yeah, you know shit is

52:03

glowing from all that radiation. Mm-hmm.

52:06

Mm-hmm Yeah, have

52:08

a few more people carrying babies

52:13

By the end yeah, Harry Kim's

52:15

not coming back You're

52:18

on your own Yeah, I

52:20

like the episode to Ben.

52:22

It does get itself off

52:24

the hook in a

52:27

convenient way but as I said, like

52:29

I'm arguing that there maybe is no hook to be

52:31

on you know, this is like the The

52:34

flagellating of the captain at the end

52:36

the self flagellating seems unnecessary,

52:39

you know, like they're explorers Stuff

52:42

is gonna break when you're exploring and

52:45

they tried their best to fix it. I

52:47

think that's That's a good

52:49

moment for everyone involved. You know, so is

52:52

it their fault? This isn't their mess to clean up But

52:55

they did their best They gave

52:57

the baby back, right? They

53:00

gave the baby back baby back baby back baby

53:02

back That's

53:04

the dark ending to the thing it's like We

53:09

do for you if we get

53:11

to take this one with the

53:13

way the baby Puppet like

53:15

moved and opened its mouth Reminded

53:19

me of the Borg's baby puppet.

53:22

I wonder if it was the same one. Yeah It's

53:24

like it's close enough that it's like

53:27

it seems like it's probably the same

53:29

rubber mold at the very least Yeah,

53:32

but yeah that limp little baby sad

53:38

Yeah, they really did a good job with the moisture

53:41

Yeah, then speaking of of moisture

53:45

Let me see what's dripping off of

53:47

the priority one messages. Yeah, let's see

53:49

what's dripping off of the matter Please

53:54

coming in on your channel A

54:00

book. Yes, extra. By the

54:02

interest of loans, could be enough to buy this ship!

54:06

Then our first priority when message is from

54:08

Rachel. It is to Graham.

54:12

Your message goes like this. I'm buying this

54:14

P1 five months before your birthday. Did

54:17

you ever notice that your birthday

54:19

is exactly five months after the

54:21

date of the enchantment

54:23

under the sea dance? Whoa! I

54:26

wonder if anybody knows

54:30

when your birthday is without googling it.

54:33

Happy birthday to you and to you as your partner.

54:36

Wow. Wow. Every

54:39

Back to the Future nerd knows this date.

54:42

October 27th, 1952. What

54:46

is... Now I'm gonna

54:48

Google it. What's your guess? Uh,

54:51

I'm gonna guess November

54:53

12th. November 5th, 1955. God

54:57

damn it. It almost rhymes. Yeah.

55:00

November 5th, 1955. Ah,

55:03

so we both missed it. Fuck.

55:06

Hmm. Wow. Well,

55:08

uh, happy birthday to Graham and she who

55:10

is your partner. Our next

55:13

P1 is from Richard, your brother, and

55:15

it's to Grant, my brother. Goes

55:18

like this. I wanted to give a shout

55:20

out to the best younger brother anyone could

55:22

ask for. You are the

55:24

best man in my wedding. You are my best

55:26

friend. I'm so happy we

55:28

can enjoy this Dick and Fart podcast

55:31

together, especially as Ben and Adam review

55:33

your favorite Trek series, Voyager. There's

55:36

coffee in that tin man drop. There's

55:38

coffee in that tin man. Chris

55:41

Bruner drop. On 16. Bruner

55:43

information system. You know, interface,

55:46

operations, net access, channel 90.

55:48

SecretaryAdd g snug 869. See

56:00

there, report to the S lab. The S

56:02

lab is your baby? She has such a great ass. Rayda! Is

56:05

she... Rayda!

56:08

The S lab requires additional

56:10

energy. We'd like to enhance the S lab. Wow.

56:16

Well you snuck it in before the end of Voyager, I'll

56:18

say that. Yeah, you're getting

56:20

very, very close to the finale here. Nice

56:23

work. And anybody

56:25

that would like to get something

56:27

in, in time for Enterprise,

56:29

I would recommend getting your P1 now. We're

56:32

getting ready to start. Yeah, and thanks for

56:34

doing P1s. They're a great way to support

56:36

the show. Hey

56:38

Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you

56:40

find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible!

56:42

Drunk Shimoda! I'm going to give

56:44

it to Carrie. Just

56:47

to honor Lieutenant Carrie. A

56:49

real one that almost made it home. So

56:54

sort of like the Academy Awards

56:56

in Memoriam Reel, like we're

56:58

going to give this Shimoda to Carrie. I can get on

57:01

that level. I like that. A Shimoda

57:03

in Memoriam. Yeah. I want

57:05

to do that too. RSVP, Carrie.

57:12

We really, quite

57:14

literally, barely knew you. Adam,

57:21

why don't you head

57:23

to gacht.biz.game. I'm going

57:26

to tell you about

57:28

our next episode. It's

57:30

called Natural Law.

57:32

It's season seven, episode 22 of Star

57:34

Trek Voyager. Seven

57:37

and Chakotay stumble upon a

57:39

race of primitive humanoids isolated

57:41

from technological progress by

57:44

an energy barrier. Doesn't

57:46

sound so bad, right? Sounds

57:48

nice. Sounds like people that Chakotay could

57:50

definitely hang with, you know? I mean,

57:52

his tub technology is probably going to

57:54

blow their fucking minds. Yeah.

57:59

Rolls up there as a future man. I never

58:01

considered this. Ben, we're on the top floor of

58:03

the game of buttholes. Will

58:06

the Caretaker. I remember that.

58:08

Square 97! Just

58:12

three squares ahead. The end of the

58:14

game board. The Mornhammered Power Hour episode.

58:17

But before we even have the

58:19

chance to get there, we are on the doorstep of

58:22

a space butthole which would

58:25

drop us down to the row of 70s. And

58:30

a square requiring extensive research. An

58:34

nth degree square. Alright. You're

58:36

required to learn as you play.

58:39

Roll. What shall it be?

58:44

Ben I hit neither. We're on square 99. Come

58:48

on! Did I win? Harley.

58:50

Dodged him. Wow. Right

58:53

in the middle. And you know what that

58:55

means? It's going to be a regular old episode next week. Regular

58:58

old episode. I'm into it.

59:00

The possibility of timing the

59:02

last episode of Voyager with

59:04

a Mornhammered seems increasingly

59:07

unlikely unless we

59:10

do a Mornhammered the episode after next.

59:13

We go back down to the beginning and

59:15

then we catch some sort

59:17

of square that gets us back up to

59:19

the very top, right? Yeah, we

59:21

would have to roll magic rolls all the

59:23

way I think. I don't know, I think

59:25

it might be mathematically impossible actually. Yeah. Yeah.

59:29

That's it. Oh wait! If we

59:31

hit the caretaker F which

59:34

is square 10. Yeah

59:36

we could do it. It

59:39

might happen. I mean it's long odds. Yeah. Very

59:42

long odds. You know, I'm a betting man. I

59:45

don't know if I want to get that drunk

59:47

for a double length episode anyways, you know? Yeah,

59:49

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59:52

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