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Here's to the finest crew

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in Starfleet. Engage. Watch

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your back shop. Hello. I'm

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Captain Cap Brinjingway, the U.S.S.

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For the Captain Cap Brinjingway,

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the U.S.S. For the

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U.S.S. Welcome to The

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Greatest Generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a

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couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about

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having a Star Trek podcast. Madam

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Pranika. I'm Ben Harrison.

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Getting ready for Valentine's Day over here. What

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are you doing to prepare? I don't

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know. Recording this episode. That's as far

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as I've gotten. How's

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that going over? Uh,

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bad. Um, how- what's your

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strategy on Valentine's Day? We tend to

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keep it pretty chill over here. But

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I like early in my

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relationship I had a couple of things

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where like I didn't

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technically fuck up, but I didn't do a

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great job at Valentine's Day in terms of

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like execution. Like I

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had everything on paper. Yeah. You

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know? There was one time where like we were

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going out to dinner and I was like meeting her at work

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and we were gonna go out to dinner and I had bought

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her some flowers, but I was like I'm not gonna carry these

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around to her job and

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then to the restaurant and then back home. They're

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just gonna get beat up and die. Oh no,

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Ben. So they were waiting at

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home in water. Oh no. Did

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you catch some shit for not showing up with

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flowers? I didn't really catch

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shit, but I could tell she was

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like- she was like preparing herself for

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a little bit of disappointment on- on

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that mark. And so like

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our strategy as

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a couple has been like set goals

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that Ben can accomplish in

1:42

terms of what Valentine's

1:44

Day looks like. And so what that's

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become is I- I usually make a

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heart-shaped pizza which I've been

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doing since way before all these fucking pizza

1:53

places started doing it. So uh-huh.

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Don't come at me with I'm copying.

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They copied me. That's a hell of

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a- thing to take credit for. And

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we just we do a nice night at home, you

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know. Ben, I've always believed that

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Valentine's Day was for both people in the

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couple. You subscribe

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to a burden

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on one person

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and by that I mean burden on you kind

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of way of being? No,

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but there's things that like I

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wouldn't feel right not doing for her

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on a day that's about our connection. Sure. And

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I think we both get something out

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of the day. Yeah, I've

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fortunately found a partner that does

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not really care

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much about that particular holiday and I

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know I'm one of the lucky ones.

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Because I look out on that Valentine's Day battlefield

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and I see a lot of bodies

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and body parts strewn around. Yeah,

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it is a day that seems

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like mainly about setting up

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disappointment. It's like

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New Year's Eve, but it's in

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February. It's like New Year's

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Eve for blowing relationships apart. I

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mean it is for many couples the one

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last hurdle after which you can finally break

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up with that person. Like

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just got to make it to Valentine's Day. That's

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a thought that a lot of people have. Hey, if

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you're just if you're out there thinking about just hanging

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on until Valentine's Day and then doing it after just

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do it now. Just do it now. Just get it

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over with. You don't want

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to go to that restaurant with that sort

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of relationship Damocles

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hanging over you. Because I know you probably

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already know this. Valentine's Day

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is solo. Fucking great. Yeah,

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you got no problems. Yeah, smooth

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sailing. My wife

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and I have been together for 15 years as

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of a few days ago. Congratulations.

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How's that? Pretty good run. Yeah. We've

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had two seven-year inches and we made it past

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them. Geez. Uh,

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well, speaking of the battlefield of love, let's

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talk murder Adam. Yeah,

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very similar battlefield for so many, I

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guess. Yeah,

4:06

this is not quite

4:08

the episode I thought we were going to

4:10

get when I read the description, but I'm

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excited to talk to you about this ep

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of Star Trek Voyager Season 7 Episode 13

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Repentance. I feel like there was a time

4:21

in television history where

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you would get a very special episode

4:33

kind of treatment to the preview

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for this one. Like, when an

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episode hues very closely to a current

4:40

event or a topic in

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the zeitgeist. I

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seem to remember all of the

4:48

previews for Star Trek episodes on

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Channel 44 having a real like,

4:53

this is an action show about people

4:55

punching each other kind of

4:57

energy to them, like next time on

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Star Trek Voyager. Yeah, there really was

5:01

that kind of emphasis to just about

5:03

every trailer for an episode. And

5:06

that voiceover guy didn't have the

5:08

special episode mode, I don't think.

5:12

I know for Greatest Gen it was,

5:14

I thought it was Gullardy. I

5:16

thought it was Paul Thomas Anderson's dad that did

5:18

that voice. Oh really? Yeah. Man.

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I don't know if he stuck around for Voyager or Deep Space Nine, I

5:24

mean. Maybe Wendy can find a snippet

5:27

of the trailer for this episode

5:29

and we'll see how our recollection

5:31

of that compares to what they

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actually ran. The galaxy

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pulls dangerous criminals just escaped

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all eight murders. And Wednesday,

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their key voyager,

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Oscar J. O. Mueller. In

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all new episodes. We have

5:48

a very brief cold open in this

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episode. We start with looking

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out the view screen over Tom

5:55

Paris's shoulder at a ship

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in distress. There's venting

5:59

plasma. or something. And they

6:01

beam survivors out of this

6:03

ship to whose distress call

6:05

they've been responding. And

6:09

the first group we see is a whole

6:11

bunch of people in the cargo bay. And

6:13

there's kind of two different types of uniforms

6:16

on the people that appear. And the

6:19

ones that are in the

6:21

foreground are very worried that they did

6:23

not materialize with their weapons in hand.

6:26

It's a very natural reaction

6:29

for any starship

6:31

captain for the Federation, right?

6:33

You gotta beam the injured directly to sick

6:36

bay, you gotta get the uninjured just in

6:38

a place where you can keep them. And

6:40

the cargo bay makes a lot of sense.

6:42

But for the people in the cargo bay,

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they are horrified to learn

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that a few of them are missing. They're most

6:50

dangerous, you could say. And

6:52

those people have been sent to

6:54

sick bay due to injuries. And

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when we cut to sick bay, we see one of them

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on the floor, on

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that beautiful carpeted floor of

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the sick bay. And

7:06

then we whip pan up to the

7:09

other who has a scalpel to

7:11

Seven's neck. And he's

7:13

taken hostages, man. Make a

7:15

move and the bunny gets it. I

7:17

love the idea of casting

7:19

for this part, because this part

7:22

is, I'm gonna do it,

7:24

man, back off! Like that

7:26

energy. You gotta have

7:28

that, but not in a cartoonish way.

7:31

You gotta have it

7:34

all the way, in a serious way.

7:36

And the actor who plays this character,

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Jeff Cobor, is

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so good at this. He really

7:44

is. He has sort of a Thomas

7:46

Hayden churchness to him. Yeah.

7:49

Like, you know how Thomas Hayden Church always seems

7:51

a bit like he's gonna cry? I

7:55

have never thought that about him.

7:57

Okay. But I'm gonna

8:00

yes it. I don't know. I

8:02

recently watched the Peacock series

8:04

Twisted Metal, where Thomas Haven

8:06

Church plays a psychotic police

8:08

officer in a post-apocalyptic car-based

8:10

future. Is he just someone

8:13

with wet eyes, or was

8:15

he hanging teardrip? I

8:17

don't know if he's doing it on purpose or not, but yeah,

8:20

like, I mean, ever since Sideways he's just

8:22

seemed like a guy who's like emotionally on

8:24

a knife's edge every time I see him

8:26

in anything. And this

8:28

guy really gave me that in

8:31

this scene, to the extent that

8:33

I was like, is that Thomas Haven Church under that

8:35

loaf? Yeah. Yeah. That's Jeff Cobra.

8:38

I mean, Thomas Haven Church also

8:40

a man who has a great,

8:42

great voice. Yeah. Like a

8:44

Jeff Cobra. Stay away, I'll kill her! 45

8:49

seconds hold up. We are in and out. Don't

8:52

you feel like Seven is maybe the

8:55

worst person to take in the grasp

8:57

like this? Because what's

9:00

stopping her free arms from

9:02

like, tubule, tubule, right

9:04

into this guy's nuts? Yeah.

9:06

Like, you'd never see that coming. You'd

9:09

never see it coming, and like, tubule

9:11

doesn't seem like it would take you

9:13

down that fast, but tubule to the

9:15

nuts for sure would. Absolutely. Yeah. Could

9:17

you use the tubules as like a

9:20

whip, like a whipping device? Like not

9:22

just to insert the Nana

9:24

Pro's, but like to... Yeah,

9:27

or like to garrotte somebody. Yeah. That's what

9:29

I'm saying. Like, could she whip it around

9:31

the back of this guy's neck and like...

9:34

Yeah. There's that guy in Johnny Mnemonic that

9:36

has the fingernail that he can pull out

9:39

and it makes like an electric garrotte. I

9:42

wish we were drilling down a little bit more

9:44

into the tubules and what they can and can't

9:46

do. Like, could

9:48

the tubules drink your milkshake? Sounds great.

9:51

That'd be fun. You

9:53

mean from all the way across the room? It

9:57

doesn't have to be violent tubules for violent

9:59

purposes. It could be fun. You can

10:01

do bits. More bits on tubules,

10:03

I think, is a new rule of

10:05

greatest gem. Yeah, I'd like that a

10:07

lot. So we get Tuvok

10:10

and the main guy that they

10:12

beamed over that isn't one of

10:14

the prisoners. When we come

10:16

back, they march into Six Bay. This

10:19

guy's named Warden Yeddick of

10:22

the Nigerian Detention Force. And

10:25

they're trying to talk this maniac

10:27

down. He wants a ship. He wants

10:29

food. The food part's

10:31

pretty important as a detail here, I

10:34

thought, in retrospect. Yeah. It's not duffel

10:36

bag full of money. It's duffel bag

10:38

full of food. Right. A

10:40

duffel bag full of soup, if you can get it.

10:43

If Neelix can make enough. Do

10:47

you like ramen? It

10:50

is rather to come. Here's

10:52

something a scientist

10:54

type person in our FOD community

10:57

could answer. Because

10:59

famously, heat made

11:01

those duffel bags full of cash so

11:03

cumbersome. Cash is heavy, especially when you

11:05

have all those bricks. If

11:07

you have a heat-sized bag full

11:09

of cash and you have

11:12

a heat-sized bag full of soup, what's

11:14

heavier? Ooh. Man,

11:17

I gotta guess the soup is heavier.

11:20

I would say so, but I don't think it's by much. You

11:23

need a piece of luggage with a really

11:25

high tensillary strength. Also,

11:28

the slosh energy of it

11:31

would make it even harder to carry. Because cash doesn't

11:33

have slosh energy, right? No,

11:35

it doesn't slip-flosh around. You

11:38

know who has sloth energy? The

11:41

monster from Goonies. I

11:43

haven't seen it, so I don't know. You

11:47

gotta sneak that into the pilot project. Oh,

11:50

shit. Just do that randomly.

11:55

Seven gets away from this guy, so he grabs Mark.

11:57

Oh, hi, Mark. And I love... I

12:00

love Mark's take here. He's just like rolling his

12:02

eyes from the second he's And

12:05

to box just shoots right through him like You

12:08

know not even wearing the mobile emitter. You don't even have

12:10

to aim Tuvok shoots

12:12

the hostage. Yeah in

12:14

a speed parlance sure does

12:16

fantastic You think there's a

12:19

moment where Tuvok forgot dr. Mark was a hollow And

12:22

he was just willing to cut through him and uh

12:25

Keanu Reeves his characters is right

12:27

there Whoa, man, I mean

12:29

I said that you I knew you said that's

12:31

what you do when I asked you What do

12:33

you do, but I didn't think you'd actually do

12:36

it Is

12:38

the secret to a great Keanu the you?

12:42

Yeah, I think because I heard

12:44

that a bunch and what you just said and I was

12:46

like goddamn. That's a great Keanu and

12:49

it's about Judding your

12:51

jaw out. Yeah when you

12:53

say what did you do? What do you

12:55

do? Well? So

13:01

We get a little McLaughlin group

13:03

if you want in the captain's

13:05

office with yet ik He

13:07

explains like oh, yeah, these are these are the worst

13:09

of the worst this was a

13:11

prisoner transport and we didn't use

13:14

the escape pods on our ship because

13:17

You can't let these guys just get away

13:19

in a in a life raft. You can't

13:21

risk them getting free This is a

13:23

situation that needs to get fucked right

13:25

now yet ik talks about

13:28

this very casually He's like look guys.

13:30

I'm sure you understand these are

13:32

dangerous criminals couldn't couldn't risk escape in

13:34

those escape pods you know we're

13:36

doing an execution milk run and I'm

13:39

sure you know what that's like we got to

13:41

take these murderers off to

13:43

be executed And if you could help

13:46

us out here by meeting up with one of

13:48

our transports or I don't know turn

13:50

it around That would be very

13:52

helpful for us Yeah, and

13:54

I think whether or not

13:56

Chikote or Janeway like believe in the

13:59

cause or whatever, they do

14:01

have a really great reason to say they

14:03

can't do that. Like, nope, that's actually in

14:05

the other direction. Coffee in

14:07

the opposite direction. We can't just

14:09

go in reverse. Yeah, that's

14:12

not happening. Not for you,

14:14

buddy. Yeah. Warden

14:23

Yeddick is played by Tim Duzarn,

14:25

who has one TNG credit, one

14:27

DS9 credit, and a couple of

14:30

Voyager credits. I just love that for him.

14:32

Yeah. Yeah, I just came back for each

14:34

series. Maybe he gets a little pinned every

14:36

time he does a series. Yeah, so he's like, all

14:38

right, well, I'll get somebody to come out, pick them

14:40

up then, if you guys could

14:43

just pause for a little while at

14:45

the very least. And Janeway seems okay

14:47

with that, and they leave. And there

14:50

is a little bit of a

14:53

conversation between Chikote and Janeway, like, God,

14:55

these guys are going to

14:57

capital punish these people. That is something that we

15:00

vehemently disagree with as a people.

15:03

What about that? And Janeway's like, okay, hands

15:06

are tied, prime directive. Yeah,

15:08

she's eating a very messy sandwich at her

15:10

desk and using tissues as napkins. I think

15:12

that would give you any napkins in this

15:14

place. What

15:17

am I supposed to use? We could have offered to turn

15:19

her out, but you blew it. You

15:21

blew it. Oh, down

15:24

in Six Bay. We learned that Mark is

15:26

glitching out a little bit. You're

15:29

damaged. I thought that this Mark glitching out from

15:31

getting hit by the phaser was going to turn

15:33

into more of a storyline than it did. At

15:36

a certain point, it's just not an issue anymore.

15:38

I mean, what is this is an excuse to

15:40

get Dr. Mark and Seven in the same room?

15:43

I guess, but it seems like it should

15:45

have been more an excuse to get BLT

15:48

in the same room with Dr. Mark, who

15:50

I feel like would have very different opinions

15:52

about capital punishment. Yeah, it

15:54

would have been interesting to hear them talk about

15:56

this as an issue because I feel like they

15:58

would be of similar. Yeah, actually

16:00

get mark out of there. Yeah, get

16:02

mark out of there. Maybe replace mark

16:04

with Tom Paris get BLT in there

16:06

Oh, man, all of a sudden it's

16:09

domestic and professional this I can't your

16:11

clothes for Tom Paris. Yeah. Yeah I'm

16:14

saying I Goes

16:16

like I murdered folks and I

16:18

am really uncomfortable with what I'm

16:20

seeing in the six

16:22

day right now like If

16:25

you could just drop me off to be executed that

16:27

would actually be very helpful for me This is like

16:29

one of the only two rooms on this ship that

16:31

I've seen Do you have private quarters that you could

16:33

go talk this through in? They've

16:38

really rolled the red carpet out

16:41

for the the Nigerian detention force

16:44

People that they are hosting because

16:46

Tuvok has constructed a full cell

16:48

block in one of the cargo

16:50

bays in record time each

16:52

guy gets a cell and there's

16:54

a big long row of them and the

16:57

Nigerian guys will be Watching

16:59

them. They can't take their guns out of the

17:01

cargo bay, but when they're in there they can

17:03

be armed This comes together so easy

17:06

and fast. I kind of feel like Tuvok's wanted

17:08

this for a long time Yeah, it

17:10

was like I I happen to have the plans

17:12

drawn up I can just feed them into the

17:14

replicator now if you'd like captain wife

17:16

goes away on a work trip Suddenly the

17:18

guest room has turned into like the golf

17:20

simulator Like

17:24

how did you assemble this so fast? Yeah,

17:27

there used to be a hide-a-bed in here,

17:29

you know what he's been doing He's been

17:31

eating Neelix food the entire time and saving

17:33

up all of his replicator rations for this

17:36

one big splurge I

17:38

love the scene that we don't get here,

17:40

which is Tuvok Deciding

17:42

on the finishes and the configuration

17:44

here because it's not just like

17:47

Cubicle walls like in the

17:49

Federation brig parlance or whatever

17:51

like there's like chain link

17:54

And stuff like he made choices

17:56

here, you know that there was like a

17:59

book of swatches You know that like,

18:01

you know, he like put different colors of paint

18:03

up on the wall and stood back and like

18:05

took a look at him Yeah, the montage hit

18:07

the cutting room floor Sadly

18:11

and what we're left with is it's

18:13

just the result and the

18:15

result is pretty cold Neelix

18:18

enters with a bar

18:21

cart with a couple of big pots on it and He's

18:24

preparing to give give rations

18:28

to the prisoners and Gannick

18:30

like takes one look at this and is

18:33

like no way man. Like they don't deserve

18:35

nice food and Everybody's

18:37

like have you checked out what Neelix

18:40

serves yet? Like you haven't been on

18:42

board the ship that long like Before

18:46

you prejudge what he's given them like this

18:48

is pretty close to bread and water man

18:51

You know what's messed up is like we've had

18:54

People on death row on Voyager before and they

18:56

actually don't want a last meal. It's kind of

18:58

fucked up At

19:02

the end they're begging to go to

19:04

buck kicks yet ik right

19:06

back in the nuts and it's like if you're

19:09

on our ship like these guys are eating the

19:11

food that we have prepared for them and you

19:14

know to his credit yet, it's like all right, well,

19:16

you know your house your rules and They

19:19

start passing this out the first

19:21

person that gets some is

19:24

the guy in the cell across

19:26

from Ico The the guy that

19:28

took seven hostage This

19:30

guy is named Joe leg. Mm-hmm And

19:33

he's the first to get served his

19:35

food and he seems real nice. He seems

19:37

like a nice guy Yeah, I

19:40

like the little hole that they open up in the force

19:42

field. I didn't know they could do that It

19:45

kind of seems like it could be

19:47

a glory hole force field situation For

19:51

a for visit Yeah, but you don't want

19:53

to be still in it when the force

19:55

field snaps back to full coverage mode, right?

19:57

You want to be super

20:00

aware of how much time you have left.

20:02

I lasted 22 minutes. It's

20:05

so sad though, right? Because he's like so

20:07

appreciative to be getting this bowl of food.

20:09

But that's before he eats it, right? It's

20:11

the bitter irony of a prisoner thinking that

20:14

they're getting a good thing. It's almost like

20:16

a country song, Adam. It's almost like, Joe

20:20

Leg, Joe Leg, Joe Leg,

20:23

Joe Leg. The

20:26

older roots are in this prison food.

20:30

It's kind of that sort of thing. It

20:33

is exactly that. Not only does

20:35

he appreciate Neelix for the food, he kind

20:37

of likes Neelix for standing up to Yeddick,

20:40

right? Yeah. He's like, we've

20:42

been taking shit off of that guy for years and look

20:44

at you. You just roll in here with a cart

20:46

full of soup? Look at how brave

20:48

you are. Instantly, Neelix has found

20:50

his 11 biggest friends.

20:53

Yeah. Yeah. In

20:56

Six Bay, Dr. Mark and

20:58

Stefan are working on fixing

21:01

the hollow matrix, I guess,

21:03

and having a little debate

21:05

about whether killing

21:07

is bad and whether killing killers

21:09

is bad. And

21:11

it's pretty like mathematical for Stefan.

21:13

She's just like, you

21:16

know, you can't do anything to

21:19

make this better for the

21:21

families of the victims other than

21:23

executing them. And that also has

21:26

the benefit of ensuring

21:28

that they'll never reoffend. So

21:30

I have no problem with this. And

21:33

Dr. Mark has a much

21:35

softer touch about this. I

21:37

think it helps with them

21:39

being in proximity to Ico, right?

21:42

Because you can have this argument

21:45

about what you believe. And

21:47

then in the very same scene,

21:49

you can be confronted by a guy

21:52

giving a totally unhinged performance

21:54

about how badly he

21:56

wants to murder all of you as

21:59

soon as he's able to get killed. get free from

22:02

his cell, right? Yeah, we kind of

22:04

cross cut from this back down to

22:06

the cell area and he's

22:08

like, Iko's telling Yetic about the names

22:10

of his children and stuff, and it's

22:13

like, man, I don't like Yetic at

22:15

all, but this Iko guy

22:17

is really scary. And he's also like,

22:19

we learned from Jolic that

22:21

he's been stealing food from all

22:23

the other prisoners. He's really the

22:25

alpha scary guy in the prison.

22:28

I just could not take my eyes off of

22:31

Jeff Cobor as Iko. I thought

22:33

he gave one of the best

22:35

performances from a guest star I've

22:37

ever seen in Star Trek. Yeah,

22:40

I feel bad about bringing up Thomas Hayden Church.

22:42

I don't want to take flowers away from Jeff

22:44

Cobor. He rules. There was

22:46

a thing I was served on

22:49

Instagram lately. I get

22:51

a lot of short video

22:53

snippets from like film studies or

22:57

film interview type accounts. And

23:00

one of these clips I just saw was so

23:02

interesting and this performance made

23:04

me think of it. It was Martin Landau

23:07

talking about what a

23:09

great actor does. And his

23:11

point was like, great performances are about

23:13

an actor resisting the natural impulse that

23:16

a person would have, and

23:18

then having that fight through the resistance.

23:20

Like Thomas Hayden Church. Right. And

23:24

when I see like what Iko

23:26

is doing here, there's like something

23:29

seething under the surface there that

23:31

makes his performance so compelling in

23:33

that Martin Landau kind of way.

23:36

It does a great job, but boy

23:39

does he piss off Warden Yetic who

23:41

has the force field draft and they

23:43

start, you know, hitting

23:46

them with the butt of the rifle and

23:48

curb stomping them and stuff. And the

23:51

like Federation security guys that are down

23:53

there have to come down and stop

23:55

this beat down at phaser point. These

23:58

are hard pipe hitting. Hey,

24:03

don't call him Nijians, come on. Is that

24:05

not what Yedic is? It's just not your

24:07

word, Adam. Oh, okay. I know you don't

24:09

want to. Coffee blast. Make

24:11

it yourself. Make it yourself. They have a meeting

24:13

about this in Janeway's office.

24:19

Yeah, you do. Yedic is like, yeah, like we

24:22

had to beat him up because he was threatening

24:24

my kids and he's a really bad guy. Like

24:26

you have no idea what this guy is capable

24:28

of. Like he murders

24:30

without a thought for no

24:32

fucking reason. Like he didn't, you

24:35

want, if somebody's going to have murder to

24:37

like have had motive, you know, he didn't

24:39

even have motive. You think

24:41

you're so in control, Janeway. What if he

24:43

had said something about Tom Mervins or

24:46

one of your many Irish setters? What

24:51

are you capable of then? Janeway

24:53

just like grabs a phaser and goes down and

24:55

shoots him while he's like unconscious on a six-day

24:57

bed. She goes like,

24:59

I confront those feelings in myself all the time

25:01

and here's what I do. And

25:03

the camera goes down to his hands. He

25:06

snaps the pencil. I

25:11

immediately feel better. The

25:14

urge to kill is completely gone at that

25:16

point. You should see

25:18

my quarters. It looks like a dive bar, but it's

25:20

pencils instead of peanut shells. Janeway

25:25

tries to get through to Yedek

25:27

here that like a forceful response

25:29

to an asshole, even if it's

25:32

righteous, it makes a bully

25:34

into a victim. And

25:36

that's exactly what they want. Someone

25:38

like Aiko doesn't learn anything from that, even if

25:40

you're on the right side of a conflict. And

25:43

not only that, she's like, yeah, Yedek, you and your

25:45

guards can get the fuck out of the brig. This

25:48

is a two-box area now. Did

25:50

you think it was weird that there were weapons in the

25:52

brig at all? I got a small arsenal in

25:54

the belly of the plane, a pistol in the

25:56

cockpit lockbox. That's it. I felt like it

25:58

was weird that they ever let Yedek. Yedic's men

26:00

do this job at all.

26:03

That's so too. Arming them

26:06

and putting them to work in

26:08

this way felt like a weird

26:10

choice. These are their guns. But

26:12

now it's Tuvok's job and Tuvok

26:14

is going to do it right. And Yedic's like,

26:16

he doesn't know anything about running a prison. And

26:18

she's like, I think you'll find that he had

26:21

the plans for this in the

26:23

back page of his notebook for a long

26:26

time, Yedic. He may have had one slip

26:28

up where he shot through

26:30

our holographic doctor, believing him to be

26:32

a real man. I

26:35

think he'll be fine from now on.

26:37

Believe me, he's qualified. So down in

26:39

Six Bay, Iko is down there for

26:42

the second time with big,

26:44

big injuries. And Seven

26:47

is called down there by

26:49

Dr. Mark. And Dr. Mark has

26:52

done a brain scan of Iko and found that

26:54

he has some brain injury

26:57

where nanoprobes would be a great way

26:59

to fix it. Otherwise,

27:02

he's going to succumb to the beating

27:05

that he took. And she's like, well, what's the...

27:07

Like he's going to death row. Like what... How

27:10

hard do we need to work to save this guy? And

27:13

Dr. Mark talks her to do it. Tell her to

27:15

put her into a nanoprobe donation

27:17

to repair this brain injury. Couple

27:20

of things about this. Do you think that

27:22

there are a finite amount of nanoprobes for

27:25

Seven to be giving? And that is in

27:27

any way part of her reluctance. I

27:30

feel like she must make new ones, but

27:32

like... Because there

27:35

was that like Ferengi Heist episode where they were

27:37

trying to get the nanoprobes and there was like

27:39

a lot of them. But

27:42

like she's given them so many times. I

27:44

got to believe that she's replenishing

27:47

her supply over time. Are

27:49

nanoprobes like the stem cells of

27:51

Star Trek Voyager? Because

27:54

it really seems like they could do anything.

27:56

They do. They fix everything. I'd be making

27:58

smoothies with them every morning. That's

28:00

the thing now, when our baby was

28:02

born, we saved stem cells from the,

28:04

I guess from like the placenta or

28:07

something. Oh yeah, are you keeping cord

28:09

in your freezer? Yeah, we have

28:11

cord blood like in

28:13

a cryogenic facility somewhere. I don't know where

28:15

it is. They probably keep that stuff separate

28:17

from the ropes, right? And the heads? Different

28:20

shelves. Because you know those cryo facilities

28:22

probably keep everything. I mean you

28:25

go into any commercial kitchen, they do a real

28:27

good job of putting a bit of masking tape

28:29

on the on the cambro and labeling it, you

28:31

know? It's Ted Williams' head.

28:35

It's Benjamin R. Harrison's preserved ropes.

28:38

It's Darrone's cord blood. I may

28:40

be shocking people to say this.

28:42

I've never frozen my ropes. Huh.

28:47

Yeah. So, Nelix backed

28:49

down to do another

28:51

meal service in the who's gal

28:53

and he starts talking to Joe

28:56

Legge again. This is

28:59

the delight of the second time the flight

29:01

attendant goes through the aisle.

29:03

Like you're on a three hour flight, you basically

29:05

only expect them to go down one time, but

29:07

you get that second surprise trip

29:09

where you get that second bag of sun

29:12

chips or something. Yeah. That's

29:15

nice. Another tequila soda? Incredible.

29:17

Okay. Joe Legge is

29:19

pretty surprised by this because

29:22

they've been lucky to get one meal

29:24

out of the Nigerians

29:26

and he

29:28

is not the same type

29:31

of loaf as some of the other

29:33

people that they got off this ship.

29:35

He is a Ben Caron and

29:39

to hear him talk about it, seems

29:41

like Joe Legge may have

29:43

been wrongfully convicted.

29:45

He was just around the murder. He

29:48

didn't do it? Just happened

29:50

to be in the area and they scooped

29:52

him up and pinned the crime on him

29:55

because of his background. I

29:57

love that while they're having this conversation.

30:00

and like guys down the cell block are

30:03

like shouting like, stop talking and

30:05

make it with the food. We

30:07

are fucking hungry. I

30:09

love all the piping up from the other cells. It's

30:11

big fun. Joe

30:13

Lake, Joe Lake, Joe

30:15

Lake, Joe Lake. I'm

30:19

begging you to shut up so we can eat.

30:22

There's two forces working here

30:24

that I think work well

30:26

together. And that

30:28

is Neelix kind of being a rube and

30:30

a mark, but also Joe

30:33

Lake having Riz. Yeah, another

30:37

really superlative performance

30:39

by a guest performer, I think. This

30:41

actor's name is F.J. Rio, and I thought

30:44

he did a great job. It

30:46

really tugs at the heartstrings. Like when he's talking

30:48

to Neelix about this, it

30:50

hits. I love the lighting

30:53

in the brig area. It's like, it's so

30:55

dark and moody. And like

30:58

when you go into the closeup on Neelix,

31:01

it's just like blackness behind him. So he

31:03

feels really isolated, even though there's like a

31:05

guard standing right next to him. Like

31:07

when he's talking to Joe Lake, it feels like he's

31:09

really alone with this interaction. Yeah, I like that a

31:11

lot. This is a great set. They

31:13

did a nice job with it. And this

31:16

starts to really eat at Neelix. But

31:19

meanwhile, we cut back to Six

31:21

Bay where Mark has patched

31:23

Ico up. He's doing a lot

31:26

better. They're like, yeah, we

31:28

put nanoprobes in you. And he's like, what are those? And

31:31

they're like, I don't know. Like if you

31:33

haven't heard of the Borgs, like I don't

31:36

know what to tell you, man. They point

31:38

to Seven's tubules and he's like, oh,

31:43

those were in me. Like

31:50

super hardened quadruple murderer

31:53

prisoner. Like cannot

31:55

take the idea of

31:57

assimilation tubules. Yeah.

32:01

Garros! He's

32:03

really taken with Seven, not because

32:06

he has like a romantic interest in her,

32:08

but because she looks back

32:10

at him with no fear in her

32:12

eyes. Like there's no, there's nothing about

32:14

him that intimidates her and he's just

32:17

not used to that when interacting with

32:19

anyone. He's like, I don't love you

32:21

Seven. I love the

32:23

way you look at me and what that's

32:25

made me become. And

32:30

then he starts singing, the soldier

32:33

boy to the war has gone.

32:35

This is fucking spectacular. Back in

32:37

the mess hall, I feel like

32:39

Neelix is going to burn something

32:41

if he's cooking and reading

32:44

about anything else besides the recipe

32:46

or whatever. Yeah. I

32:48

also love the partition between the

32:50

cooking area and the front of

32:52

house. That's great. Yeah. I

32:55

thought it was such a funny reveal when

32:57

BLT and Tom threw it open to like

32:59

a cute couple alert

33:02

where we're opening up the partition because

33:04

we're ready for dinner and Neelix is

33:06

like, Oh yeah, it'll be ready in

33:08

15 minutes. I'm just like deep

33:11

in the law books about

33:13

Nigerian slash Ben Caron

33:15

politics. And did

33:17

you know that the Nigerians do not

33:19

have a like equal justice under the

33:21

law thing totally figured out the way

33:24

we do back in the Federation. And

33:26

they're like, fuck, what a trip

33:28

anyways. What's for dinner? I

33:31

love BLT and Paris's attitude here

33:33

because I feel like I

33:36

feel like you see this a lot like the

33:39

latest cause from someone who

33:41

just read about it on the Wikipedia has like

33:43

turned it into like whatever the Coney 2016 is

33:45

of like today. They

33:51

look at Neelix and they're like, you're such a fucking

33:53

rube, man. Like it's always like this with you. You

33:56

don't know what you're talking about. You're

33:59

a chef. barely good at that. I

34:02

really envy like I

34:05

think that Dom and Bolaunez politics

34:08

are not mine in this

34:10

scene like they're like yeah like whenever that's

34:12

their system and you can't question it man

34:15

and like Neelix is like yeah but they

34:17

you know convicted at 10 times higher rate

34:19

and like it's all clearly tilted just based

34:21

on the data. I love

34:23

how BLT shuts the fuck up

34:25

because I have a suspicion that

34:27

the Klingon justice system is

34:31

not much better. Yeah

34:33

what I admire about

34:36

the two of them is the

34:38

like hey we're at dinner and we're

34:40

not trying to make every problem in

34:42

the universe more important than that right

34:45

this second. We'll go fight for what's

34:47

right later right now we need to

34:49

eat is basically where they're coming from.

34:52

This has been a feeling in my

34:54

life for maybe

34:56

the past several years it's

34:59

just the like we

35:01

can't fight every problem at every moment like

35:04

let's have the dinner. Neelix is doom scrolling

35:06

in this scene is what's happening. He is.

35:09

I'm not going to drink it out of

35:11

here. I'm not going to drink it out

35:13

of here. I'm not going to

35:16

drink it out of here. Governor

35:18

Six Bay, Dr. Mark is explaining

35:21

why he wasn't hurt earlier to Ico

35:23

and his explanation

35:26

makes Ico talk and song

35:28

lyrics here. I loved

35:30

his dialogue. I

35:37

wish I was made of light. Ico

35:39

is having a whole

35:41

different experience of the

35:43

world right now because Seven walks

35:45

in and Mark

35:48

is like hey like so the the nanoprobe thing

35:50

went so well I want to get some more

35:52

out of you so I can put more of

35:54

them in him and she's like yeah okay whatever.

35:56

Does she need a refractory period for this? She's

36:01

like, Marky Mark, you know, she can just

36:03

go right away. That's awesome. So

36:05

they're like doing the extraction and, you

36:08

know, they're talking about the possibility like, you

36:10

know, Ico seems all sensitive now, but maybe

36:13

he's just doing that to trick you. And

36:16

they hear him from around the corner. He's

36:18

getting personal bangers dropped on his belly. And

36:21

after the doctor scans him and can't

36:23

find anything medically wrong with him, they

36:26

come to the realization that he is

36:29

experiencing clinical grade guilt.

36:32

They seem familiar to you in any way. Yeah.

36:36

I mean, I've never done anything as bad

36:38

as what Ico has done, but like,

36:40

I do feel like I feel as

36:43

bad as Ico does in this moment

36:45

when I think about the time when

36:47

I was like seven years old and

36:49

my family took a trip to Yosemite

36:51

and I was walking around in my

36:53

hooded sweatshirt, ranged all the

36:55

way closed around my nose, pretending I

36:57

was an astronaut. And I just like

37:00

walked through a room in the hotel where a

37:03

black tie gathering of

37:05

some like rich people was happening and

37:07

an entire room full of people

37:09

in tuxedos turned and pointed and laughed at

37:12

me. That's

37:15

a thing I think about, you know,

37:17

every night as I'm falling asleep and

37:20

makes me feel as much pain as

37:22

Ico feels in this moment. What

37:25

an amazing boy you were. Just

37:29

incredible. I didn't feel like that at the

37:31

time. Tell you what. So

37:34

there's this tension between Seven and Dr. Mark

37:37

that I feel like Neelix

37:39

got a little bit of in the previous

37:41

scene. Like Seven

37:44

is thinking that Dr. Mark is being

37:46

manipulated in the same way that Paris

37:48

and BLT felt Neelix was. Right.

37:51

And her take is like when bad

37:53

people are being nice to

37:55

good people just to get what they

37:58

want or like they make themselves. into

38:00

the victim towards certain people

38:02

in order to get like support

38:06

Against people who might have very credible

38:08

reasons not to trust them Yeah, just

38:10

so that like they can effectively

38:12

launder their bad reputation through someone's

38:15

good reputation That's how a

38:17

sociopath moves through the world, right? Yeah, this

38:19

is what she's trying to convey

38:21

to the doctor he is Is

38:24

much more just curious about

38:26

what is going on then

38:29

thinking about this from a

38:31

like higher level Like

38:33

interpersonal strategy standpoint. Do

38:36

you feel like the doctor is more able

38:38

to get this though than Neelix? Like the

38:41

doctor being a self-avowed student

38:43

of What will have to

38:45

agree to call humanity? Very

38:47

name is racist. Yeah, I meant sociology like

38:49

being with people and stuff in the world

38:52

Yeah, I do but he's also just distracted

38:54

like he gets the brain scan info back

38:56

and like they're looking at this and he's

38:58

like man This brain is rewiring itself in

39:00

a bunch of ways that I did not

39:03

plan on when we put The

39:05

nanoprobes in and I go at this point is like

39:07

you got to get these out of me Like I

39:09

do not like feeling bad about what I did like

39:11

this This is fucking

39:14

the worst like going to my certain

39:16

death was better than this There's

39:18

a transition here because the doctor originally

39:20

kind of ties it to the Hippocratic

39:22

oath of like I don't think people

39:24

should be Executed

39:27

for any reason and then there

39:29

there is determined to be like

39:31

a medical reason For why

39:33

that might have been the case for Ico

39:35

like why he was predisposed to his

39:38

violent tendencies and now he may not Have

39:41

that due to what's going on in his brain It's

39:43

like do you wish that the

39:45

doctor was either one or the other or like

39:48

maybe he was never The

39:51

first one and only the second one because he

39:53

seems to be like having it all ways with

39:55

his reasons This episode zigged

39:58

when I thought it was gonna zag many

40:00

times. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at.

40:02

Because the next scene is not

40:04

about what the doctor's doing, trying to get

40:07

to the bottom of what is normal for

40:09

this kind of brain by

40:11

transmitting data with Nigerian medical

40:14

science people or something. It's

40:17

Iko and Seven talking about

40:19

their shared love of stars

40:21

and Iko thinking back to

40:23

his childhood and... He's

40:26

never going to love stars as much as Seven does.

40:29

She's cataloged six billion of them. You

40:32

can't fucking compete, Iko. She's kind of

40:34

gatekeeping the stars thing. Yeah,

40:36

she's kind of girl-bossing in the

40:38

scene. It's a

40:40

little unfortunate. Interesting that

40:43

Iko feeling the feelings

40:45

of a guilty conscience as a

40:47

result of the nanoprobes, wants the

40:49

nanoprobes out. Don't give me more.

40:52

Take out what I've already been given. He

40:55

and Seven connect on this kind of

40:58

emotional basis that seems

41:00

to give him some comfort despite all

41:02

of that. We

41:04

cut down to the detention

41:07

facility where Neelix

41:09

and Joleg are playing a

41:11

game of Kata Scott. Neelix

41:14

is like to Joleg, you

41:17

want to play a game of Kata Scott? And Joleg is

41:19

like, I mean, well, some

41:21

people call it a bed, but to me, I

41:23

Kata Scott. And Neelix is like, no,

41:25

I mean, the game, like with shapes. And

41:28

Joleg is like, I know, I Kata

41:30

Scott a rectangle, I guess. And

41:32

Neelix is like, no, it's for children. And

41:36

Joleg is like, not this one. Look

41:38

at it. You can't Kata Scott for

41:40

kids. It's too big. I

41:46

really like that. Yeah,

41:48

because like triangle in Star

41:50

Trek, totally normal for a Kata

41:52

Scott. Exactly. They're playing

41:54

a nice game. They're talking about,

41:57

you know, the research

41:59

that. Alex has been doing,

42:01

I've been doing my own research, and

42:03

I've learned a lot of disappointing things

42:05

about the way Ben Caron's get treated.

42:07

When people begin a conversation with an

42:10

illusion to doing their own research, that's usually

42:12

a good time to just sort of punch

42:15

out of that conversation. Yeah. This

42:17

poor guy cannot leave because he's in

42:19

a cell. This might be the most

42:21

cruel and unusual situation. Yeah. That's

42:25

Joe Legge has ever found himself in. You

42:28

hear one of the other prisoners down the

42:30

hallway singing, Joe

42:33

Legge, Joe Legge, Joe Legge, Joe

42:35

Legge. Nigean

42:38

justice leaves a lot to be

42:41

desired. This

42:44

justice system in

42:46

his specific case seems

42:50

especially cruel or unjust because we heard

42:52

earlier that he was just around a

42:54

murder and the victims of that murder

42:57

are able to determine the level of punishment

42:59

for the criminal that's found

43:01

guilty. So like in this

43:04

case, that feels like, oh man, he didn't

43:06

even do it, he was just around it.

43:08

But like in general, thinking about it broadly,

43:13

I don't hate it. Well, it's this

43:15

doctrine that they have in Nigean

43:17

law called favor the victims. And

43:20

it like leaves a lot of those decisions

43:22

to them. Instead of a dispassionate

43:24

judge or whatever, like a judge,

43:26

like the Kata Scott

43:28

game is like made an example

43:30

of this. Right. And

43:33

Neelix's feelings about it. Like a judge

43:35

could never understand how

43:38

precious an object or a person could

43:40

be to a person or

43:42

a victim's family or whatever, like the

43:45

victim or the victim's family could. So

43:48

one might find it more just to have

43:50

the victims decide what the punishment is. Right,

43:53

but there's also like a pay to

43:55

play element. Yeah, that's gross. Where if

43:58

you're rich enough, you can like. financially

44:00

compensate the the family instead

44:02

of you know succumbing to

44:04

their punishment that sucks and

44:08

another thing that Joel egg

44:10

has to stand on that makes Neelix

44:12

kind of admire him is he's like I would never admit

44:14

guilt so I'm not gonna pay them off like even if

44:16

I had The money for it. I wouldn't do it because

44:18

that would be Copping to this

44:20

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44:22

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44:25

gonna go down to the net selling check and I'm

44:27

also gonna write a letter to your brother to

44:30

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44:32

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44:34

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48:47

in 6 Bay 7 thinks she's doing

48:49

a nice thing by bringing Iko an

48:51

astrometric log. I love the

48:54

take here for Iko. He's like, what

48:56

the fuck is this? Words

48:58

and numbers? I

49:00

can't read. I

49:03

can't jack it to this. Iko

49:08

is fully in the throes of

49:11

both guilt and that sense of like, just

49:13

get it over with. Just kill

49:16

me. Because he looks

49:18

at Seven's Dolphin and is like, even

49:21

looking at you makes me

49:23

think of all the hurt I've caused.

49:25

And I deserve to die for all that. And

49:28

this is a conversation that's interrupted by Dr. Mark. Because

49:33

he shows both Seven and Janeway

49:35

a scan of a healthy Nigerian

49:37

brain. And in this healthy brain,

49:40

there's this note that

49:43

makes having a normal moral

49:46

conscience possible. And Iko

49:48

was born with a birth defect that left him

49:50

without this thing. And the nanoprobes

49:52

are what repaired it. And that's why he's

49:54

having these stomach problems. And,

49:58

I mean, with this thing repaired... But he's

50:01

now in control of his

50:03

bad murderous impulses. It

50:06

seems pretty clear that he'd be incapable of murdering

50:09

over and over again the way he used to.

50:12

But should we risk it is

50:14

a question that they put to Yedick

50:16

in the next scene in a great

50:19

big McLaughlin group. Issue three. Where he's

50:21

like, what? Yedick

50:26

who we have not seen in quite some time

50:28

on screen. Yeah, ever since

50:30

he got in big trouble for ordering

50:33

Ico to be beaten nearly

50:35

to death. Don't you wish

50:37

we saw a little bit more of Yedick's

50:39

life on the ship? Because he is

50:41

also a prisoner in a way. A

50:43

prisoner to this life, this punitive life.

50:46

Like what does he do? He

50:48

is very skeptical of this pitch that

50:50

they have. Like they're saying

50:52

like Ico is a new man. Like

50:54

because the conscience has been activated and

50:57

plugged in, it is

50:59

very unlikely that he will do the

51:01

kinds of things that he has done

51:03

before. And he's like, I

51:05

don't care. Yeah.

51:08

And this is another another valence

51:11

to the they're just deceiving you

51:13

argument. Right. This time it's

51:15

at Tuvok and Seven and the captain.

51:18

But Janeway believes that an appeal

51:21

and like having

51:23

this new situation

51:25

evaluated in the Nigerian

51:28

form of due process is the

51:30

way forward. And so she orders

51:32

Yedick to sit down with Tuvok

51:35

and draft the appeal. And

51:37

he talked about wanting to see what Yedick

51:39

has been up to in the

51:42

meantime since he got kicked out of jail

51:44

guard duty. I wanted to

51:46

see him and Tuvok having to collaborate

51:48

on writing a letter together. It

51:51

sounds like a nightmare. Yeah. As

51:53

anyone who's tried to write anything with

51:55

anyone else collaboratively would agree with, like,

51:58

especially when one person's looking over the

52:00

other person's shoulder? Ah, the worst.

52:02

That doesn't work. Yeah. So,

52:05

uh, off screen, I guess it happens,

52:07

but, uh, we cut back

52:09

to Six Bay where Seven and

52:12

Iko are having another conversation.

52:15

This is the scene where she

52:18

reveals, like, he asked her if it

52:21

was, like, painful when they installed the

52:23

Dolphin, and she denied it earlier, and

52:25

she reveals that it was super painful

52:27

in this scene, and also reveals that,

52:29

like, body count-wise, he

52:31

does not have shit on her. Yeah.

52:35

She knows from murder, she knows from

52:37

wanton cruelty, and she kind

52:39

of connects with him on the basis

52:41

of because he didn't have

52:44

a conscience, because she was in the

52:46

thrall of the Borgs, neither

52:48

of them are responsible for

52:50

the bad things that they've done. You're

52:53

a different person now. You don't deserve

52:55

to be executed. I think this is

52:57

a really interesting moment in the episode

52:59

because it sort of sets up this

53:01

thing where you can

53:03

tell that Seven is

53:06

really living through Iko's

53:09

experience by proxy

53:12

from here on in. Like, can she

53:14

be absolved of the horrible things she's

53:17

done via him

53:19

seeking absolution in

53:22

the Nigerian justice system,

53:25

and the stakes are really high for her

53:27

in that way. Yeah, she

53:30

goes through a great character arc this

53:32

episode. Yeah, I thought so too. In

53:35

the Briggs area, Iko does this thing

53:37

because he's been transferred back there. He didn't

53:39

want any special treatment in Six Bay anymore.

53:42

He does this thing where he does pull-ups with

53:44

his fingers using the grate above his cell. Yeah.

53:48

I gotta get a pump. That's it, get it. He's

53:50

done that this episode. It

53:53

is so intimidating. It's great. I

53:56

wonder if that was in the script

53:58

because the set design... had

54:00

to build it strong enough for that to

54:02

be possible. But you never see

54:05

his whole bar to you, so I think he's probably

54:07

just standing on a thing, like faking it. I

54:11

love the idea that the actor came in and was

54:13

like, I'm gonna make a choice here and like grab

54:15

the set and just like rip it apart accidentally. It's

54:18

really great. This is the scene

54:20

where it is really revealed

54:22

what a new leaf Iko has turned

54:25

over because Neelix is trying to give him

54:27

his shit on a shingle and he's like, hey, don't

54:29

give it to me. Give it to that guy that

54:32

I used to steal my food from. This

54:35

is the time that Neelix is like, I'm not

54:37

sure if I have trust you, man. But

54:40

he gives the food to the other guy and

54:43

the other guy flings come at him and it's like

54:45

dripping from his hair. Jesus.

54:47

Mate, you're so much slumber.

54:50

Where did that come from? It's like that

54:52

scene in Silence of the Lambs. Oh, okay.

54:54

Gosh. I

54:57

think about a lot of scenes from that movie. I don't

54:59

think of that scene. Really?

55:03

Yeah. That's like the most

55:05

crazy moment in that movie. A lot

55:08

of crazy moments. Isn't it crazy how

55:10

often Silence of the Lambs was shown

55:12

on television, like cable television?

55:14

And by that, I mean not HBO.

55:16

I mean like TBS or whatever. Did

55:19

they show that part? No, that's what

55:21

I'm saying. I watched that on TNT

55:24

dozens of times. And so

55:28

the memories of that film are largely

55:31

without the come throwing. You're like, why

55:33

is Clarice so upset by that other

55:35

guy? And why

55:37

did Dr. Lecter talk him into biting his tongue

55:40

off and swallowing it and killing himself? Yeah,

55:42

a lot of questions. Very mysterious movie

55:44

to me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Spoiler

55:50

alert for Silence of the Lambs. We

55:52

cut to Janeway's office where Seven shows

55:54

up and Janeway's like, well, they sent

55:57

the letter in, the Tuvok and this

55:59

guy, Yadda. worked on together. They

56:01

sat down in a room together and

56:03

wrote a letter, and Yaddick

56:05

didn't even really believe in the letter. He didn't

56:07

want to appeal this, but I made him, and

56:10

he worked with Tuvok on it,

56:12

and they sent it. And Seven's like, yeah, yeah,

56:14

we established that. And Janeway's like,

56:16

no, I know, but it's just fucking nuts that

56:18

they actually did that. Anyways, they sent it, and

56:20

the family's not into it. J.W.A.

56:23

and Yaddick just talk a lot about how

56:25

weird and difficult it must have been to

56:27

even draft the letter to begin with. Yeah,

56:30

and Yaddick's like, no, it's like, honestly, I've

56:32

had a long career as a

56:34

prison warden. One of

56:36

the hardest things I've ever had to do. I

56:39

mean, and this kind of gets

56:42

Janeway off the hook for making a decision. That

56:44

decision was taken out of her hands. They're just

56:46

going to abide by what the family

56:48

said here. And so Yaddick fucks off and

56:51

leaves Seven and Janeway to discuss the

56:53

situation going forward. And Seven

56:56

cops to the idea that

56:58

she and Iko are similar.

57:01

Aren't they both deserving a

57:03

chance to atone for

57:05

their crimes? And if Iko is

57:08

guilty, does that

57:10

also mean Seven is guilty? Seven

57:13

is like, I had this opportunity uniquely

57:15

to reclaim my humanity. And

57:17

doesn't he deserve that too? And Janeway's

57:20

like, oh, Seven, I wish you hadn't

57:22

put it that way. That's really offensive.

57:24

You could only hear yourselves. They don't

57:26

get to conclude this conversation

57:29

here corutially because

57:32

they're interrupted by this banger. Yeah.

57:35

And that's because they're being attacked by

57:37

a mystery ship, an attack that's

57:39

working so well. Power is

57:42

failing all over the ship,

57:44

including where this brig has

57:46

been built. And that means

57:48

those force fields holding the prisoners in are

57:51

now gone. And these criminals are

57:53

escaping and they're overpowering the guards

57:55

and taking the weapons. This

57:57

is why you don't have weapons there. on

58:00

the aircraft, period. You can't have WEPs, Ben.

58:03

WEP is not the key. Yeah. I

58:06

know that we're in Star Trek, and they

58:09

beam the poops out. But this

58:11

is a prison riot. There

58:13

are two things you need in prison riot scenes. One

58:16

is guards in SWAT

58:19

outfits running in and getting

58:21

immediately overpowered by the marauding

58:24

prisoners, which we don't have the outfits, but

58:26

we have the marauding prisoners and the guards

58:28

getting fired, but the other

58:30

thing you need is wads of toilet

58:32

paper flying everywhere. And there's no toilet paper

58:35

flying around in this scene. And I was

58:37

like, this is this does not

58:39

a prison riot make. I've seen

58:41

prison riot scenes, and this ain't one. I

58:47

go, just can't get in the mood for this. He

58:50

just backs into his cell and sits down

58:52

on, what would you call it, Ben? You'd

58:55

caught a Scott, wouldn't you? I would

58:57

say that he caught his cot as

58:59

he stepped backwards. There you go. Somehow

59:01

I feel like the luckiest man alive.

59:04

Nothing's coming. He ain't

59:06

moving away from Star Wars. He ain't

59:09

moving away from Star Wars. He ain't

59:11

moving away from Star Wars. Q-Like

59:13

has left the bridge at this point, and

59:16

Chakotay's taken over a tactical. It's like one

59:18

of the few moments Chakotay gets in this

59:20

episode. But I feel less bad about it

59:22

in this episode, because Tom and BLT and

59:24

Harry don't have anything to do, they

59:27

really don't. So yeah, they

59:29

scare away this attacking ship.

59:32

It seems like, we don't

59:34

know anything about that ship at this point.

59:36

Except it's beaming away prisoners. Like that's what

59:38

it was there to do. It

59:40

was trying, and it fails. And...

59:45

Well, it succeeds for some of them. I think

59:47

only two of them. Yeah, I thought they got

59:50

some off. Oh man, I

59:52

didn't realize that. Because it comes to

59:54

a head like by the shuttle bay,

59:56

where Joleg and another guy are trying

59:58

to shoot their way out. How

1:00:00

badly do you wish they got to the Delta

1:00:02

Flyer? They get in

1:00:04

there like what the fuck are these analog

1:00:07

knobs about? What

1:00:09

nerd designed this and it cuts the Tom

1:00:11

back up on the bridge of the voyagers

1:00:13

like finger in his collar going Yeah,

1:00:19

yeah, they don't make it in there, but

1:00:21

that's where they were headed they get confronted

1:00:23

by yetic and jolik easily

1:00:25

takes him prisoner and Drag

1:00:28

them back to the Briggs area. This

1:00:30

is an intense scene Yeah, because when

1:00:32

the prisoners take the wardens

1:00:35

or the guards during a

1:00:37

prison riot It usually doesn't go very well

1:00:39

for those guys Yeah, and

1:00:41

they like weld the door shut with

1:00:43

a phaser. Yeah, welcome to con air

1:00:47

This is all like coming to a head

1:00:49

where jolik is like getting ready to shoot

1:00:52

warden yetic While

1:00:54

he's like lying on the floor and

1:00:57

From down the hallway you hear I co

1:00:59

and he's singing Joe

1:01:03

leg Joe leg Joe leg

1:01:06

Joe leg Killing

1:01:09

hostages is hard to come back from Great

1:01:14

moment for I go here Right

1:01:17

I go saves yetic

1:01:19

by taking the dust buster from him. He's like look let

1:01:22

me do it I gotta

1:01:24

do this one man after all he's done to

1:01:26

me. Come on Yeah,

1:01:29

so he does except I go gives the

1:01:31

dust buster to yetic and then yetic shoots

1:01:34

Jolek Wow. Oh Joe legs

1:01:37

got to be pissed about this. So

1:01:39

this instance where

1:01:42

I co saves yetiks

1:01:45

life leaves such an

1:01:47

impression on yetic that He

1:01:50

decides to get the victim's

1:01:53

family to hear I goes appeal for

1:01:55

leniency I love his

1:01:57

take like Tim just aren't performance

1:02:00

in that moment, like the

1:02:02

holy shit, he gave me

1:02:04

the gun. And

1:02:07

it is like smash cut to I

1:02:09

go apologizing to this family and going

1:02:12

like, whatever you decide, just

1:02:14

know that there's like no amount

1:02:17

of sorrow I could possibly

1:02:19

express for what I've taken from you.

1:02:22

This is how it is, though. And

1:02:24

I'm not saying that it's right or

1:02:27

it's wrong. I'm just saying this is the way it

1:02:29

is. A person changes

1:02:31

their opinion because a thing personally

1:02:33

affects them. And this is

1:02:35

what happens to Yatic here. Or

1:02:38

they're smart and they like understand the

1:02:41

data on the thing. Yeah. Yeah,

1:02:44

that's not this. I thought

1:02:46

it was amazing that we get to

1:02:48

watch the leniency plea happen

1:02:50

on the bridge. Can you imagine working

1:02:52

on the bridge at a station not

1:02:55

related to this? Like you're just doing

1:02:57

science over at the science station

1:02:59

and you're hearing this guy plead. I'm

1:03:04

just going to put in my earbuds. You're

1:03:06

trying to like lower the volume on

1:03:08

your computer so that the life form

1:03:10

song doesn't drown out his plea. If

1:03:14

you let me live, I will

1:03:17

never hurt anyone again.

1:03:20

Another great performance here. Boy,

1:03:24

felt real bad for the extras that had to get

1:03:26

put in all that loaf to just sit there

1:03:28

for one shot so that

1:03:30

we could then cut back around to

1:03:33

the ECU of Ico doing this plea.

1:03:36

And it is gut wrenching, but they don't know him

1:03:38

like we do. You know? Like

1:03:40

they haven't seen the journey he's been on.

1:03:42

And they don't know who the fuck Voyager

1:03:44

is. Like this irritates me so much. Like

1:03:47

Ico gives this family

1:03:49

more information than they can use or

1:03:52

understand. He's like, you know, I've changed.

1:03:55

My brains are different. And it's

1:03:58

all thanks to these people. here,

1:04:00

the Voyager crew. I'm going to now thank

1:04:03

them all by name. And this family

1:04:05

is like, what is a

1:04:07

Voyager? Who are these people?

1:04:10

A politician with a sex scandal standing at

1:04:12

a podium with his wife and kids behind

1:04:14

him. And it's like, we don't know who

1:04:16

they are. They seem innocent in all this.

1:04:19

It is a great performance and it's

1:04:22

all tied up with a, look,

1:04:25

whatever you decide, I'm going

1:04:27

to go with it, but just know I'm

1:04:29

sorry. No matter what. I

1:04:31

feel like he should have applied more pressure in

1:04:33

order to save his life in this moment. Oh,

1:04:36

like gone with the hard sell. I

1:04:39

just want to say, I

1:04:42

think QN is wrong. No matter

1:04:44

who does it, whether it's me

1:04:46

or y'all or you don't. I

1:04:49

don't think that's the time for a, uh,

1:04:51

whatever you want to do, whatever. Like when

1:04:53

your life is involved, I think you got

1:04:55

to try a little harder. He

1:04:57

slaps the hood on himself and says,

1:04:59

this thing really feels

1:05:02

bad. He

1:05:06

pulls a Benjamin R Harrison

1:05:08

from off screen. This baby

1:05:10

really feels guilty. A lot.

1:05:16

The emotion of that scene is so,

1:05:18

so interesting in conversation with the

1:05:20

emotion of the next scene where

1:05:23

Neelix feels so used

1:05:25

by Joe. Like he he's like down

1:05:27

in the detention area God like, man,

1:05:29

that was your brother's fucking ship. I

1:05:32

transmitted that message to him in good

1:05:35

faith. And like you

1:05:37

were fucking tricking me the whole time. And Joe's

1:05:39

like, Hey man, like, I don't

1:05:41

know. I didn't know he was going to do

1:05:43

that. How about give me some nano probes? Maybe

1:05:45

I'll feel bad about it. I don't give a

1:05:47

fuck. Yeah, he's

1:05:51

the scorpion. Danieleks is rug mask

1:05:55

off. Joe. Damn. Do

1:05:57

you think that Joe leg? By

1:06:00

doing the stomach ache stunt was

1:06:02

making fun of Neelix or

1:06:05

was he actually trying to pull a

1:06:07

legit stomach ache stunt? The

1:06:09

way I go did could he have known that

1:06:12

that's what I co went through cuz that happened

1:06:14

in six Bay I like the

1:06:16

meaner version of that read like he's doing

1:06:18

this at Neelix But I don't think that's

1:06:20

what the show is doing it

1:06:22

would have really made me hate his character I

1:06:24

like that there's some ambiguity with his character But

1:06:27

it would have been kind of fun for him to like

1:06:29

really be an unredeemable villain

1:06:31

at the end I like seeing dark

1:06:33

Neelix here to dark Neelix with the

1:06:35

glowing red eyes Like you

1:06:38

rarely see this version of this

1:06:40

character, but he is disgusted by

1:06:43

Joe Lake here You make me sick

1:06:45

Joe like yeah Joe

1:06:48

like Joe like Joe

1:06:50

like Joe like I

1:06:53

Eat a lot of Liola root, but you make me

1:06:56

sicker No,

1:06:58

man, maybe uh, maybe go with the

1:07:00

second draft on that one. Okay.

1:07:02

Why I didn't write these down ahead of

1:07:04

time. I Cannot

1:07:09

believe how much more episode there is

1:07:11

in this episode because in the

1:07:14

ass lab Iko has been permitted to Look

1:07:18

at the stars while he waits for

1:07:20

the results of the appeal this seems like a nice

1:07:22

thing for the crew to do for him Yeah, and

1:07:24

there's this moment of hope and this moment

1:07:26

of hope is important to give because What

1:07:29

you want to do is make someone feel something

1:07:31

at the end of this episode and this is

1:07:33

how you give him a little bit of hope

1:07:35

and then you take it away because He's

1:07:38

got this hope and they start making plans sevens

1:07:40

like maybe you can get a job here Like

1:07:43

look at that guy. He's the

1:07:45

guy we picked up along the way. Look at me Hey,

1:07:52

I got a job I Like

1:07:57

looking up at the stars, dude, there's a look

1:07:59

at that And

1:08:02

like the moment they start making plans

1:08:04

in walks Janeway and yetic to smash

1:08:06

his hope nuts to smithereens

1:08:08

the families denied the appeal and

1:08:13

Before I co goes He's

1:08:15

just got a look in sevens eyes one

1:08:17

last time They're the

1:08:19

only eyes to look at him without hating

1:08:22

his fucking guts So

1:08:25

they drop him off Janeway

1:08:27

checks in on seven in the

1:08:29

ass lab at the end and

1:08:33

Seven has not been sleeping Or

1:08:36

recharging as it were seven. I'm

1:08:38

glad you're still awake The

1:08:41

Nigerians are broadcasting the execution

1:08:43

on subspace. I really

1:08:45

want to watch it in here because it's a really nice

1:08:48

screen It's

1:08:52

the only screen on the ship with HDR

1:08:54

and I've heard they're broadcasting it in 4k

1:09:02

Really gets the tone wrong at the end of the I

1:09:11

thought it was an interesting conversation

1:09:13

that like seven didn't get like

1:09:15

atonement by proxy You know, right

1:09:17

which whether or not like his sentence

1:09:19

was commuted or whatever like It

1:09:22

wouldn't have been possible either way, but

1:09:24

this almost makes that easier of

1:09:27

a cell, right? And I think

1:09:29

it's a better Move for

1:09:31

seven as a character from

1:09:34

a writer Lee standpoint like that

1:09:36

she Is still

1:09:38

a little torn up about what

1:09:41

she represents to others and what

1:09:43

you know was done by her body Even if

1:09:46

it wasn't done by her conscious mind Seven

1:09:49

you must understand I Co

1:09:52

killed one or two people and you killed

1:09:55

Thousands and thousands of people there's nothing

1:09:58

similar about your circumstances You

1:10:01

think anybody would be satisfied by you being

1:10:03

put to death? There's no law to fit

1:10:05

your crime. It's not like that for you.

1:10:10

And that is the scene the episode ends

1:10:12

on. Ben, did you like this

1:10:15

episode? You know, I'm going to

1:10:17

be the one who's supposed to be. But

1:10:20

I don't like bullets. And I don't like...

1:10:25

I really liked this episode. I thought it was

1:10:27

a... ...chewy

1:10:31

treatment of a pretty

1:10:33

intense, difficult

1:10:36

set of subject matters. Like,

1:10:38

it didn't... There were a couple

1:10:40

of times when I did feel

1:10:42

like it was sort of dodging away

1:10:44

from going deeper into one of them specifically.

1:10:48

There were a couple of

1:10:50

conflicts that didn't resolve super well for

1:10:52

me, but all three

1:10:54

of the key guest performers

1:10:56

did really amazing jobs with

1:10:59

their performances. And

1:11:02

I think I was worried that it would just be

1:11:04

like a, well, there's nothing we can say about the

1:11:06

death penalty. We could just feel

1:11:08

bad while we help these people go get killed

1:11:10

kind of episode. And it

1:11:13

was so much more three-dimensional than that and

1:11:16

played so nicely in the

1:11:19

ambiguities between light and dark. And

1:11:23

gave me a lot to think about and did

1:11:27

it well within the context of

1:11:29

a couple of characters that have become really

1:11:32

important to me over the course of watching

1:11:34

this show. So, yeah, I really enjoyed the

1:11:36

episode. Yeah, I usually flip

1:11:39

shit to this show for asking

1:11:41

a lot of tough questions,

1:11:43

but not really having the conviction to

1:11:45

have a strong opinion either way of

1:11:47

the show. And this

1:11:50

is an episode that does not also, I

1:11:52

don't think, but in a way that makes

1:11:55

it a better episode. This

1:11:57

is a moral question. that

1:12:01

is really, really

1:12:03

difficult to

1:12:05

adjudicate effectively whatever

1:12:08

side you're on. And what

1:12:11

I appreciate maybe more than

1:12:13

anything is that

1:12:15

this wasn't an episode that was telling me

1:12:17

how to feel a certain way. This

1:12:20

is an episode that showed me how characters

1:12:22

were feeling about the issue and

1:12:24

allowed me to experience all the sides

1:12:26

of that thing in

1:12:28

a way that I really liked. Like don't tell me how

1:12:31

to feel, show me how you feel. That's

1:12:33

what I like about good television writing.

1:12:35

And I found a lot of it

1:12:37

here. In addition to those great performances, like those

1:12:40

guest stars this episode, absolute

1:12:43

killers as actors,

1:12:50

killing it in the game, not like murdering,

1:12:53

I don't think. Killing it in

1:12:55

the game, not killing in the name of. Right.

1:12:58

Want to check the priority island box? Yep.

1:13:02

Priority one message from Starfleet coming

1:13:04

in on secured channels. Leave

1:13:07

us up alone. Up alone? Up

1:13:09

alone. Up alone. Yes, extra.

1:13:12

By the interest alone, could be enough to buy

1:13:14

this ship. Ben,

1:13:17

we got a priority one message here. It's of a

1:13:19

promotional nature. It's

1:13:21

from Ellen. Ellen's

1:13:23

message goes like this. Thin mints. Tagalong.

1:13:26

Samoan. Samoas. Yeah.

1:13:31

I love this. Are you looking to buy some Girl

1:13:33

Scout cookies and support a future FOD at the same

1:13:35

time? You are killing me

1:13:38

with this. Look

1:13:41

no further than my daughters, Lizzie and

1:13:43

Ali. We're working our way

1:13:45

through TNG and learning Girl Scout ideals

1:13:48

like inclusivity, caring, leadership,

1:13:50

and STEM. Cookies

1:13:54

sold in Colorado are still only $5 a box. They

1:13:57

can be ordered online and shipped directly to your

1:13:59

door. Adam because it

1:14:01

deserves a replay. Let's hear

1:14:03

the Maggie O'Callaghan drop. Ellen.

1:14:31

One of the great promotional priority

1:14:33

one messages here. I cannot believe

1:14:36

the audacity of

1:14:38

you selling Girl Scout cookies on

1:14:41

a P1 message. Fantastic. Incredible. Here's

1:14:43

how you can do this. Yeah.

1:14:45

How do we do it? Go

1:14:48

to tinyurl.com/ lizzycookiesale.

1:14:50

Okay, that's L I Z Z

1:14:52

Y C O OK I E

1:14:55

S A L E or

1:14:58

tinyurl.com/alley cookie sale. That's a L L

1:15:00

Y C O O K I E

1:15:02

S A L E. So look at

1:15:05

me. I already preferred buying cookies from

1:15:07

Lizzie and not alley. I think they're

1:15:09

both good. How about

1:15:11

this? You buy cookies from Lizzie. I'll

1:15:13

buy cookies from alley. We hope that

1:15:16

the friends of the Soto distribute their

1:15:18

purchases equally among the two. Let's

1:15:20

not like make one feel bad

1:15:22

and the other feel good. Let's let's make

1:15:24

Lizzie and Allie big winners in their in

1:15:27

their troop. You know, I had

1:15:30

forgotten that it was Girl Scout cookie

1:15:32

season. I have no Girl Scout cookies

1:15:35

in my home. I'm going to change

1:15:37

that. I'm going to go to one

1:15:39

of these URLs. Got to. Lizzie cookie

1:15:41

sale or alley cookie sale at the

1:15:43

end of a tinyurl.com. Get those cookies.

1:15:46

Man. Amazing. Get your thin mince tag

1:15:48

alums or Samoas really the the

1:15:50

trinity of Girl Scout cookies you need

1:15:53

to be concerned with. I'm a Samoas

1:15:55

guy. Always have been. I could eat

1:15:57

an entire box of Samoas. Have you

1:15:59

tried? Thin mints? Yeah, I

1:16:01

have. And we always have thin mints

1:16:03

and they're great. But

1:16:05

I can't eat an entire box of thin mints. Oh

1:16:08

man, I could eat multiple boxes. That's

1:16:12

a stomach ache stunt that

1:16:16

Joeleg wouldn't even do. What about

1:16:18

the do-si-dos? That's a solid one.

1:16:21

That's the peanut butter sandwich one, right? Get that

1:16:23

out of here. What? Yeah,

1:16:25

can't do it. You're

1:16:27

fucking crazy. Man, I am. I'm

1:16:30

loco. You know I'm

1:16:32

loco. Well,

1:16:34

good luck to Lizzie and Allie and

1:16:37

thanks to Ellen for getting a P1.

1:16:40

If you'd like to get a P1, it's maximumfun.org/Jumbotron.

1:16:42

Yeah, they go a long

1:16:44

way towards helping us make

1:16:46

this show possible. So we

1:16:48

really appreciate folks like Ellen

1:16:51

for doing a P1. Hey Adam.

1:16:54

What's up Ben? Did you find yourself a

1:16:57

drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda.

1:16:59

I mean, in terms of a like,

1:17:01

what are you doing type

1:17:03

character. What

1:17:07

are you doing? Who

1:17:10

is that character in this episode? I

1:17:12

have one. Who's yours? Maybe that'll help

1:17:14

me. There is a moment

1:17:16

when those bangers start getting dropped

1:17:19

on Voyager where

1:17:21

they're on the bridge and they're

1:17:23

like, stuff

1:17:25

is going on also down in

1:17:27

our makeshift prison. And

1:17:30

there's just a shot of Tuvok leaving

1:17:32

the bridge wordlessly. Yeah. And like when

1:17:34

we cut back to the bridge, Chakotay

1:17:36

is taken over at tactical, but like

1:17:38

you're getting shot at by a ship,

1:17:40

like also Tuvok. Like you gotta delegate.

1:17:42

What's the greater threat? You gotta delegate.

1:17:44

Like you either delegate going down to

1:17:47

the prison or you delegate the tactical

1:17:49

station. But if you're delegating the tactical

1:17:51

station, which you are, you gotta tell

1:17:53

somebody about it, you know? I

1:17:56

don't wanna tell anyone how to do their

1:17:58

job, but Tuvok, I think you could. probably

1:18:00

stay put, hit a couple blurps on

1:18:03

your keyboard, release just

1:18:05

a shitload of Nurozine gas

1:18:07

down there. Yeah. Put

1:18:09

this riot down. Put it down. Get people high at

1:18:11

the same time. I, if I

1:18:13

was in Starfleet security, I would

1:18:16

tell my boss, like if I need to

1:18:18

get Nurozined a few times per

1:18:20

quarter because

1:18:23

a riot breaks out and you just need to put it

1:18:25

down, I'm not complaining. Like I'm down

1:18:27

for that shit. Yeah. I'm

1:18:29

gonna put my ass out. So, Tuvok is

1:18:31

my Trunksha-Moda in this episode. I think I'm

1:18:33

gonna make mine Tuvok just for the amount

1:18:37

of choices he made with his

1:18:39

build-a-brig set

1:18:41

up in the cargo bay. I

1:18:43

love that. You know that wasn't off the rack. He's

1:18:46

customizing those cells in a big way.

1:18:49

And I like to think about him doing it. He doesn't have

1:18:51

many joys in his life. Gotta

1:18:53

believe this is one of them. You'd

1:18:55

never know it though. Ben,

1:18:59

I'm so excited to know about what

1:19:01

the next episode is gonna be. Oh

1:19:03

boy. The next episode is Star Trek

1:19:05

Voyager season seven, episode 14. Prophecy.

1:19:11

A group of Klingons separated from the

1:19:13

rest of their race believes

1:19:16

Balana's unborn child is the savior

1:19:18

foretold in their sacred scrolls. I

1:19:20

can't believe I completely forgot Balana

1:19:23

is pregnant. Holy

1:19:25

shit, so did I. I

1:19:28

guess when she was in Neelix's

1:19:30

mess earlier, she was just cropped to

1:19:32

the window. Yeah, yeah,

1:19:35

it must've been something like that. Hmm,

1:19:38

well, I've gone over to the

1:19:41

game of buttholes, the

1:19:43

will of the caretaker. Keep that over it.

1:19:46

Gachta biz slash game. See

1:19:50

how we're gonna watch this next episode. I'm

1:19:52

pregnant with anticipation, tell you that much.

1:19:56

Ben, our runabout is currently on square 13.

1:19:59

Okay. Five squares ahead. A Quarks

1:20:02

bar drunkisode square. Oh

1:20:04

shit. Could do without that. Could

1:20:07

do without that. You're

1:20:10

required to learn as you play. Roll.

1:20:13

That's it Ben. That's the

1:20:16

only danger ahead. I'm gonna roll the die. Okay.

1:20:22

You know what I did. Roll the five. Oh

1:20:24

yeah. This

1:20:30

is what we deserve. We

1:20:33

deserve bad things. Yeah. Okay.

1:20:36

Wow. I

1:20:39

feel like you rarely... I'm looking

1:20:41

at the FODs on the camera right

1:20:43

now watching us record this live. I

1:20:46

feel like you could really hear the disappointment

1:20:48

of Ben's voice there in a way you've

1:20:50

maybe never heard before. I don't

1:20:52

know what's going on with me man. I was trying... I

1:20:54

was like... You're too sick for drinking. I

1:20:56

stopped drinking for a long time. Yeah. For

1:21:00

your health. Because my stupid

1:21:02

belly. Yeah. And then

1:21:04

like I had like four

1:21:06

little drinks on Friday night over the course

1:21:09

of five and a half hours. And

1:21:11

I'm still fucking hungover. Yeah. So

1:21:14

man I don't

1:21:16

know what's going on with me. I'm falling apart. Maybe

1:21:19

you're allergic. Like what you told

1:21:21

everyone in high school when they invited you to parties.

1:21:24

Yeah. I'm allergic

1:21:28

to hot girls. I

1:21:32

mean is there a variation of drunkisode that we

1:21:34

could get you through? No.

1:21:36

I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna get

1:21:38

my birdie ready. It's gonna be fine.

1:21:41

Drunkisode isn't power hour. Drunkisode is

1:21:43

just... it's rinking hard yeah? I'll

1:21:45

make a couple of martinis. It'll

1:21:47

be fine. Alright. It's

1:21:50

gonna be fine. I'm not gonna suffer. We're

1:21:52

not recording this one until next week. You're

1:21:54

gonna feel fine then. Yeah.

1:21:57

Well, we'll see. Oh,

1:22:01

is there something I don't know about? I

1:22:03

mean, not to time stamp this episode, but

1:22:05

we're going to fucking Sketchfest in between now

1:22:07

and then, and we're probably gonna do

1:22:10

a little bit of drinking in San Francisco. So

1:22:12

I'm just, I'm gun shy is what's

1:22:15

going on. All right. Well,

1:22:17

I've taken drinking episodes off before, a

1:22:20

fact that you've never let me forget. Yeah,

1:22:22

I don't do that. I don't fuck

1:22:24

our listeners over like that. Whoa.

1:22:28

Okay. Well,

1:22:31

looking forward to whatever that turns out

1:22:33

to be next week. Geez.

1:22:39

Looking forward to it, Adam. Are you?

1:22:43

Are you sure about that? In

1:22:45

the meantime, we got to thank all

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the friends of DeSoto who support this

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1:22:58

yeah. It's coming down the pipe.

1:23:00

Yeah, I'm pumped. I've

1:23:02

never been more pumped for a max fund drive. Hey,

1:23:05

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1:23:08

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1:23:11

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1:23:19

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1:23:25

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1:23:27

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1:23:30

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