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a feminist but... When

3:03

I got on the plane from

3:05

Australia to Auckland, I

3:08

sat down very pleased with myself. I booked

3:10

a seat on the aisle and

3:13

a flight attendant came up and he went, really

3:15

sorry but could we move you two rows

3:18

in front to the middle seat just

3:21

to balance the weight of the plane. And

3:26

I genuinely said to him, seems a bit

3:28

personal. And

3:31

he said, no, no, no, it's just, it's not me, it's

3:33

the ground staff. I was like, did they point

3:35

me out? And he

3:37

said, no, no, no, it's just the plane was

3:40

nearly full. So like how could

3:42

it have affected? And I just said, look,

3:44

yes, of course, I'm a delight. Of

3:46

course I'll move. But

3:49

if this plane is going to be

3:51

put off kilter by me being there

3:53

not here in an otherwise pretty full

3:56

plane, I was like, I don't really want to

3:58

go on it because... And

4:00

he said, look, I know. I don't really, I

4:02

can't really explain it. We don't really understand that

4:04

we just get told by the ground staff. And

4:08

then the person next to me said, I'm actually crew. I'm

4:10

just catching a lift. And she said, you handle that so

4:12

well. She said, most passengers are horrible. And they all are

4:14

about that kind of thing. And they go, I hope chosen.

4:16

I'll see it, or whatever. And

4:18

I said, well, I'm unbelievably lovely.

4:20

So that's why. But

4:23

I was thinking about it. And I was thinking, it was a

4:25

bit odd. So I texted Grace and told her

4:27

what had happened. My

4:29

friend, Grace Petrie, on tour with me. And she

4:32

said, she texted back and said,

4:34

maybe it was the weight of your feminism. No,

4:40

hold on. I said that. And

4:43

she said, yes, I think

4:45

there was a misogynist two rows

4:47

back, and you

4:49

need to bounce out by

4:52

moving. So I choose

4:54

to believe now the weight

4:56

of my feminism is dangerous. And

5:00

could bring a plane out of the sky. Thank

5:04

you. I'm

5:09

a feminist, but when

5:16

my partner and I first started living together,

5:18

instead of telling him I didn't really like to

5:21

cook, I just did

5:23

really shit cooking for a month until

5:26

he said, no, no, that's OK. I'll do

5:28

it now. So

5:30

we had like a whole month of

5:32

undercooked fish fingers and overcooked

5:35

macaroni cheese every night until

5:37

he gave in. I

5:40

think eventually you kind of played your strengths.

5:42

Now we understand he really likes cooking, so

5:44

he does the cooking. And I really like

5:46

cleaning, so we've got a cleaner. Listen,

5:52

as long as he cooks and you pay for the cleaner,

5:54

I don't see a problem. No, we split the cleaner. I

5:56

think that's unfair. I

5:59

earned 12% less. and he does second. This

6:02

is... You

6:04

are... listen, you are just making

6:07

up for thousands of years of

6:09

patriarchy. And it's coming to

6:11

you baby, it's coming to you. You hold on to

6:13

it tight and you don't let it go. I'm

6:16

absolutely doing that, you're welcome. Thank you. I'm

6:22

a feminist but... CHEERING

6:28

When I was on the plane over

6:30

here from the UK, there was a

6:33

sweet little girl who's probably

6:35

about six years old. And

6:39

we were on the plane, we were both legs of the journey.

6:42

I was on the plane with her and her family and

6:44

her parents I assume. And they were...

6:47

and then, you know, in the middle of

6:49

the night she was running up

6:51

and down the plane. She

6:53

was making loads of noise and her parents

6:56

were sort of indulgently running around after her

6:58

and I thought... I

7:01

think she's a bit too empowered. LAUGHTER

7:07

See, one time it does go too far, doesn't it? It

7:10

can... it can be... Bring back a bit of shame. Look,

7:16

this is a confessional section, OK? Feel

7:18

free to judge Grace. I

7:21

am. No, it's nighttime

7:23

and it's a plane. I get it.

7:25

You're telling me. Be annoyed. Be annoyed.

7:28

But in our hearts we know the

7:31

fact that that girl will probably grow

7:33

up to, you know... Make her partner

7:35

pay for half the cleaner. Or

7:39

start a necessary revolution. Yes. Yes,

7:42

absolutely. So I'm a feminist but

7:44

backstage, I admit it in the

7:47

dressing room, sometimes the green room gets a bit,

7:49

you know, racy. Don't

7:52

mind telling you. And I admit it to the other people on

7:54

the bill tonight, I guess, everyone. I was just, we were

7:56

just chatting. I don't know how it came up. But

7:58

I admitted that sometimes... in my sexual

8:00

fantasies, I make myself a

8:03

bit stereotypically hotter.

8:11

And there was some discussion of, but are you looking at

8:13

yourself in his fantasies? And I was like,

8:16

well, sometimes, well, sometimes I just, it's more

8:18

I'm imagining how he's feeling about touching me

8:20

or, you know, what kind of, what

8:23

kind of bodies is Jacob Elordi used to?

8:28

And we started talking about it and then everyone

8:30

sort of admitted, yeah, at times, of course, she

8:32

makes herself a bit taller, grunger,

8:35

you know, change

8:37

your body slightly in ways that you've been taught

8:39

by the patriarchy to think about her or whatever.

8:41

And it's, you know, it's your sexual fantasy, it's your knife

8:43

off. So, you know,

8:46

while you shouldn't do that because you're retraining, but you

8:48

sort of do a bit, you know, and

8:50

we were all talking about it. And I thought, I said to

8:52

them, you know what, I think I'm going to start a practice,

8:56

like a meditative practice of starting off

8:58

any sexual fantasy by

9:00

imagining first Jacob Elordi talking to me or similar,

9:02

doesn't have to be him, but we were just

9:05

talking about Salburn

9:07

and, you know, came up and just

9:10

imagining him just like telling

9:12

me how much he loves my

9:14

cellulite, how it turns him on,

9:17

like stroking it, telling me he wants me to

9:20

be his Mrs. Robinson, like stuff like that, stuff

9:22

like that. And I imagined

9:24

that. I said, I think that's what I should do to

9:26

retrain my brain, to find myself more

9:28

attractive. I don't think that's good. And then I said, I

9:30

think I should start a public

9:32

campaign called something

9:34

like Be Yourself in Your Fantasy. And

9:38

then I thought, genuinely, I got carried away in the

9:40

dressing room. And then I looked around and I just

9:43

thought, I think what other people are thinking is, there are

9:45

more important things for feminism right now than

9:48

you spending an extra 10 minutes

9:51

fantasizing about like

9:54

hot boys off the telly, saying

9:57

how gorgeous your thighs are. And

10:02

I feel the same vibe coming from you. And

10:06

Auckland I was hoping for more. You know, I

10:08

was hoping for you to support me in this.

10:11

Who would like to support me in a sort of 10

10:15

minute fantasizing about some pin up

10:17

or other, someone you think about

10:20

when you fantasize, just sort

10:22

of adoring you just the way you are. You

10:24

know what I mean? Yeah. He

10:26

likes me just the same. Could

10:29

you kiss them because you were going to fantasize about each other? Get

10:32

out. Have you

10:34

brought a person you sexually fantasize about?

10:39

I'm so touched by that. And

10:41

I enjoy how little time you've been together.

10:44

Is it

10:46

weird if I say I'm going to fantasize about

10:48

you two fantasizing about each other? Is that? I

10:51

can. Excellent. Excellent.

10:55

Interestingly, if I have a sexual fantasy about a woman, I

10:57

don't change myself at all. It's only for a man. That's

11:00

probably worse, isn't it? But that's because I think

11:03

women are embraces of my body. And

11:05

I suspect that men have a tick

11:07

list. I think they don't actually. They

11:09

don't give a fuck. They're just like

11:11

thrilled to be seeing something. But

11:15

in my head, they're just happy to be out of

11:17

the house. I'm

11:19

pretty sure if Jacob and

11:21

Lordie was in the right mood and I was the only one there,

11:24

he'd go for it. Generally,

11:26

I find they're just happy to be at

11:28

home and not cooking. That is just. Oh,

11:30

sorry. I got personal. Yeah. I'm

11:35

a feminist, but when

11:37

I found out that a male comedian, I just

11:39

wanted to be specific about what kind of comedian

11:41

he was because most comedians are women, but then

11:43

there's male comedians. When

11:47

I found out a male comedian had sent dick

11:50

packs to every woman in our

11:52

industry, my first

11:54

thought was rage, but my second thought was where

11:57

the fuck is my dick pack? It's

12:00

like, ageist? What

12:03

am I, a chup lover? I don't know. An

12:06

ageist predecessor. Yeah, exactly. The worst

12:08

kind... Well, I don't know if that's the worst kind.

12:12

We could discuss that further. There are probably the worst kinds

12:14

of predators and just the ones that don't like older

12:17

ladies, but... Fuckin'...

12:22

Grace, is it you? I'm

12:27

a feminist, but

12:30

I will, in any situation that benefits

12:32

me, allow people to mistake me for

12:34

a teenage boy. What

12:38

would be a situation that would benefit you? Well,

12:41

if you wanted to do... Just... Just GCC your

12:43

mask or something. Everything I'm wearing is age

12:45

12 and it's a lot fucking cheaper, okay?

12:50

And it happens a lot more than you'd

12:52

think. Particularly, you know, during

12:54

when we were all wearing masks. You

12:57

know, once my girlfriend and I, we were going on a

12:59

steam train. And

13:05

there was this very exciting moment where we were

13:07

on the platform and the steam train was driven

13:10

up the platform and it was turned around on

13:12

a turntable, right? And this elderly gentleman on the

13:14

platform turned to me and made very intense eye

13:16

contact and said, Choo choo

13:19

choo! And

13:27

I thought... He

13:30

has mistaken me not for a male adult,

13:35

but for a male child. What

13:38

can you do? I just said... Choo choo choo! What

13:42

can you do? What

13:45

can you do? We can't always be winning, can

13:47

we? I don't really see how that benefits you

13:49

unless they give you the child rate on the train.

13:53

I was riding as a kid until the age of 12. 24

14:00

mate. Are

14:03

you ready to start the show? Then

14:06

welcome, welcome, welcome to the

14:09

guilty feminist here in Auckland,

14:11

Algara. But

14:13

give it up for Grace Peacery and

14:15

Michelle A. Court, two women who you'll

14:17

be seeing a lot more of tonight

14:19

along with our fabulous guest. It's

14:31

so wonderful to be here, very excited to be back. We haven't

14:33

been for two years and I like to come every year. So

14:35

I am, I'm very thrilled. Thank you so much for

14:37

remembering who we are. Just give it

14:39

a cheer if you listen to the podcast. Just

14:42

give it a cheer if you don't know what you're at. A

14:46

surprising number of people. Have you been brought by people

14:49

or you just saw it was on and thought that

14:51

sounds like me. Just give it a cheer if someone

14:53

brought you. I

14:56

don't wish to impose gender upon you but are you a

14:58

man sir? Sorry

15:00

I shouldn't have said sir. That's imposing gender. Let's

15:03

try it again. But are you a man? Yes.

15:06

And is this your partner? Wife

15:09

or girlfriend? Wife

15:11

or girlfriend? Yes. It's

15:14

complicated. Girlfriend?

15:20

Yes, she's quick to say. Have

15:24

you brought her here to propose? Was

15:27

that the proposal? Because I think it could

15:29

be more romantic than that. Wife or girlfriend?

15:31

Sure. What's

15:35

your name? Shane. What's

15:37

your name? Alex. And

15:41

Shane did you bring Alex or did Alex bring you? I

15:45

was told to book the ticket. You're

15:51

going to go on a large limb here. Shane

15:54

and say Alex has sat you in the front row

15:56

for a reason. She's

16:00

hoping you will learn something. Does

16:03

Alex listen to the podcast? I

16:06

should ask Alex, it's a feminist show. Religiously,

16:10

she listens to it religiously, and you've not once

16:12

listened to it. No.

16:17

You're here to educate yourself. Well, it's starting

16:19

well. Yeah. That's what I've

16:21

been told. I've been told

16:24

to educate myself. This is going very well. You've

16:27

been going out a lot longer

16:30

than those two. Where are you?

16:33

Oh, there you are. Probably not. How long

16:35

have you two been going out? How

16:38

long? A few months.

16:41

A few months, of course. They're still fantasizing about each

16:43

other. A few months. Did you honestly think it was longer

16:45

than a few months? Some people

16:48

are going, oh, I imagine that could be ten years.

16:50

It isn't. It can't be for anyone. There

16:52

are people, apparently. There are people, and they call

16:54

them swans, that when they put you under an

16:56

MRI machine, you still get the sexual fancy

17:01

bit of the brain lights up. I

17:03

don't think it's called the sexual fantasy bit of the brain. I'm

17:06

no neuroscientist, clearly. But whatever

17:08

bit that you get when you

17:10

lust after a new person, that

17:13

bit lights up still along with the long-term

17:15

attachment part of the brain and all those

17:17

other bits. But

17:20

for most of us, when we've been in a

17:22

relationship for a while, that first bit dies.

17:26

It's limerance. It's called limerance. When you're just

17:28

in love with somebody for the first time,

17:30

it's not just lust. It's just when you're

17:32

addicted to somebody, you're really in love with

17:34

them, falling in love with them. That's called

17:37

limerance. And that limerance part dies, but another

17:39

part, the long-term attachment part of the brain,

17:41

lights up, presumably evolutionarily so that you raise

17:43

a child together or whatever. But

17:46

very few people, they study

17:49

them in labs. The

17:51

limerance stays, and the long-term attachment is there

17:53

as well. And they are as in

17:55

love as they were when they first met until they die.

17:57

And that's why they call them swans. Isn't that wonderful? Do

18:00

you think you're a swan? You

18:03

do! No talk

18:05

to me about this before. Do you think you're a swan? How

18:08

long have you been together? Ten

18:10

years. And do

18:12

you both think you're swans? Because

18:16

I notice only you cheered. Are

18:18

you, again I don't want to wish

18:20

you had posed anything. Are you a heterosexual couple? Yeah,

18:25

okay. What are

18:27

your names? Alicia?

18:30

Devon. That's my

18:32

birth mother's name, who's also in. There's two

18:34

Devans in the audience, what about that? Just

18:36

give her the cheer if your name's Devon. I

18:40

thought there might be more. But

18:43

even my birth mother didn't cheer, so I don't know. Emma

18:47

are you here? Oh

18:50

good, thank you. I

18:53

suddenly thought they hadn't come. I

18:55

thought they're in Nando's. Okay

18:59

great, so Devon do you also believe yourself to be a

19:01

swan? Yeah, it's awkward now not to say that

19:04

you are, but yeah. That's so nice,

19:06

that's so nice. So we found swans that

19:08

you still feel as excited, but

19:11

you're also holding someone else's hand, which is interesting. This

19:14

is your best friend. Okay, great.

19:18

Also kind of your wife. You're a

19:21

feminist and so she's like your feminist wife. Excellent.

19:25

Listen. We

19:30

are very poly positive, sex positive, whatever's going

19:33

on. If this is whatever this is, we

19:35

love it. No,

19:38

I know what you're saying. You're saying you work

19:40

quite a type thing. Yeah, I get it. It's

19:44

gone on an interesting, it's not

19:46

what I normally ask people about. I

19:49

found myself rather down a cul-de-sac. Anyone

19:52

else think they're a swan? Anyone else think they're a swan? Yes,

19:55

you think you're a swan. But

19:57

again only one hand is your partner with you? He's

20:01

not with you. Why is

20:05

your swan not with you at the feminist show though?

20:11

He's not a guilty feminist swan then

20:13

I don't believe in him. No you're

20:16

in love but he's not necessarily

20:18

up for feminist comedy. Okay. Okay

20:21

fair enough but I would work on it and

20:24

I would question it. I don't want

20:26

to put that into your head but I have so it's

20:28

too late. Just

20:31

give us a cheer. Give us a

20:33

cheer if you think you've got a

20:35

feminist job or it doesn't have to be like a job

20:37

of work where you get paid. It could be a voluntary

20:39

position or some project you're working on. So

20:41

give us a cheer if you think

20:43

you've got a feminist job. That's

20:46

pretty indicative of my audiences.

20:49

I've said it before but it is true

20:52

that my audience tend to fall into

20:54

three groups. One is someone

20:56

working in a kind of helping close the

20:58

pay gap role or something like that. Then

21:00

more sort of overarching societal things like they're

21:03

working in health care or working with refugees,

21:05

working in literacy and then the third group

21:07

is people doing PhDs about Virginia

21:10

Woolf. And

21:12

is there anyone here doing a PhD about Virginia Woolf? Got

21:14

a cheer? No. Anyone here

21:16

doing a PhD though? Yeah

21:19

there's always quite a lot of PhDs. Just

21:21

give us a cheer PhDs again or

21:24

if you've got a PhD. Oh

21:26

yeah loads loads. There's always like way

21:29

overrepresented. Jimmy Carr could

21:34

be playing a stadium and

21:37

I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and say

21:39

if there's one PhD in there they leave in the

21:41

interval because they didn't realize what they were at. What's

21:46

your PhD in? Yes. Is

21:49

your PhDs in you? Very niche.

21:51

They're always niche. Media

21:55

literacy and gender identity I told you. Anybody

21:59

else what's your What's the other two doing? Either done or being

22:01

done? Anyone else?

22:05

Yes? Oh, Alex! Yes, go on. The

22:12

full title or a summary? I'm

22:16

gonna give you the mic. Sorry, okay. Full

22:21

title, graduated last Tuesday.

22:24

Yes! Bonsmatic

22:31

type one development. For

22:34

the analysis of data generated by target

22:36

capture based next generation sequencing. For

22:39

the characterization of mutations and

22:41

the utility of using off

22:44

target sequences to detect genomic

22:46

imbalances in human, not

22:48

humans, multi-myelome patients, they're all human. Yes!

22:52

Wow. Congratulations, Dr. Alex.

22:58

What does that mean you

23:00

will actually do though, Alex? I

23:04

mean, I understood it, but I just feel like some of the

23:06

audience might not have. And

23:08

they might just be wondering. So for the

23:10

lay person, what

23:13

will you actually do with that PhD? And

23:18

I think there's a change out of research into

23:20

more like medical writing and stuff, but if I

23:22

continued into like post-doctoral

23:24

research, it'd be like understanding

23:28

better what causes the cancer so that we

23:30

can have personalized treatments to

23:32

target like the techniques behind them. I'm

23:40

actually hoping you don't get a job in journalism

23:43

so you can cure cancer, because

23:45

it sounds very much like you're currently curing

23:47

cancer. Is that what you're doing? I'm

23:51

contributing, that's what a woman says. A

23:54

man says, I've got it sorted.

23:58

Give me five years and a grant. half

24:00

a million. That's what a man says.

24:02

The woman goes, I'm making

24:04

a little contribution. What

24:08

do you do, Sam? Are

24:11

you a curing cancer as well? Because they might have met

24:13

in a curing cancer context. Military

24:19

and defense. Okay,

24:25

don't turn. Don't

24:28

turn. I'm sure he's got a

24:30

good reason. Have you?

24:34

Mostly space stuff. I told you not to say the

24:36

military stuff. She

24:39

said, if you didn't hear that, she said to

24:41

say the space stuff. I told you not to

24:43

say the military stuff. Wow.

24:49

What are you doing in space? Just

24:54

contributing. Okay,

25:05

so I think we've found the most feminist

25:07

and the least feminist person in the audience.

25:11

Normally I search around, who's got a non-feminist job? Oh,

25:13

I work for a bank, but I do Trojan horse

25:15

feminists within. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

25:17

I've literally just in the front

25:19

row, happened upon the woman who's

25:21

curing cancer and her

25:24

boyfriend, she was keen to say not

25:26

husband, and

25:28

we don't really want to delve in what he does. But

25:31

whatever he does in space, I

25:33

feel it's not good. Right.

25:39

We should really get on with the rest of

25:41

the show. But I normally let

25:43

someone plug something that they need help with in Auckland.

25:46

Has anyone got a feminist project you need help

25:48

with? No,

25:50

no one's doing anything. Okay. Anyone

25:52

doing anything at all where you go, oh,

25:54

we could use some money or volunteers or,

25:56

you know, a profile, click on our thing.

25:59

Anyone doing anything? Yes, right in the

26:01

front row. Kottos is a really fruitful front

26:03

row. Hi,

26:05

I'm CEO of a

26:08

tech charity and we are, we're in Raglan,

26:10

which is Whangaroa, which is only an hour

26:12

and a bit out of town, but we

26:14

want to host your corporate conference there and

26:16

all the money that you pay to host

26:19

your corporate conference there covers school camps, for

26:21

kids that can't afford school camps. We

26:25

love that. So, just give

26:28

it to the team who's got a corporate job. Excellent.

26:31

Well, that's where you're having your next conference

26:33

slash away day. What's it called? The

26:37

Institute of Awesome. That's an easy one to remember.

26:40

Note it down in the notes on your phone or

26:42

email the person in your HR who does that kind

26:44

of thing or events, whoever does that kind of thing

26:46

and to say, could you please, if you're booking anything

26:48

at all, look for the Institute of Awesome because we

26:50

want to send kids who are disenfranchised, might not have

26:52

an opportunity to get into tech, to get into tech.

26:54

And you know who those kids are. They

26:57

are often kids who are left out

26:59

of or mainstream. Norm's

27:01

way of support systems, oh, isn't Toby's

27:03

best man in tech? Can't he have a

27:06

word with little Sebastian? That's

27:08

how middle-class kids get stuff and

27:11

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31:10

right. We

31:13

just got over the meat and potatoes of our

31:15

podcast. So please welcome back

31:17

to the stage my incredible co-part for

31:20

this evening, the one and only Michelle A. Clark. Wow,

31:27

that was exciting, wasn't it? You also have a lot of PhDs in your

31:29

audience. I've only discovered this. I was doing

31:31

a stand-up show in London and I just

31:33

sort of was messing about one night and

31:41

discovered this. Do you know what I

31:43

find something interesting? All German people are doing a PhD. And

31:46

it's a whole country. Everybody in the country. It seems

31:48

more than a trend. And whenever I've said that in

31:50

an audience there's always a German person doing a PhD

31:52

or has done a PhD. It's really normal there. That

31:54

is fantastic. I love it. I

31:57

want an honorary doctorate.

32:00

I'd love to be a doctor, but not actually do

32:02

any work. I got offered one and then I couldn't

32:04

make the date work to go and I don't know

32:06

if now it's gone a bit late because I can't

32:08

really ring up and go, are you still offering? Does

32:10

a doctor have a youth by date? Do you have

32:12

to get me before... No, it's a bit like, I

32:14

don't know, the people who wanted me to do it

32:16

may have moved on or I don't know. Just feels

32:18

a bit wrong to ring a university and go, can

32:20

I have an honorary doctorate? Remember that time you said

32:22

I could. Do you see what I

32:24

mean? I can't wait. Listen, if you're listening and

32:26

you run one of those honorary doctorate programs,

32:30

I'm on for it. Okay, you are me. And

32:32

you are too. So if you're listening

32:34

and you're thinking, yeah, we're looking for people

32:36

to give honorary doctorates to, Michelle and I

32:38

will turn up on the same day, we will

32:40

double act the fuck out of that. Yeah, we will. And

32:43

we will give our own commencement speech. Totally. You've

32:46

got the gown, this is good. Are

32:48

you going to be there to sell an academic gown? I

32:50

don't feel that they're going to want a

32:52

scold-sequent guilty feminist's cape with pom-poms on.

32:54

They just don't know they want it.

32:56

They don't know what they want. They

32:58

don't know what they want. Any Germans

33:00

in doing a PhD? I'd

33:03

be amazed. You are German, Alex. Yeah.

33:08

I'm not wrong. I'm

33:10

not wrong. What's your own

33:12

audience's size? Yeah. Because

33:14

I was finding, I had an audience of, you know, it's

33:17

just like a, I was doing a, you

33:19

know, developing a stand-up show, so it was like 200 seats. And

33:22

I had PhDs in every night, like a chunky...

33:24

I love that you have brand new people coming to

33:26

you. I know. I honestly think, I've said it

33:28

before, but I think we could just lock the doors

33:31

here for 48 hours and solve a

33:33

good cause for the world's problems. Yeah, I think

33:36

that's... Seriously. Yeah. Seriously,

33:38

this is what's not happening. I mean, I couldn't, but I

33:40

feel like I've got people who... You've got

33:42

the pull, you attract them. That's

33:45

how that works. Absolutely. We'd have to

33:47

ask Sam to leave, but... Yeah.

33:50

Is that Sam? Yeah, could we take it all

33:52

back to the defense people? Is he the spy?

33:55

He's a very bad spy, isn't he? Well, I feel like

33:57

in New Zealand, you don't really do bad

33:59

defense. do you? We don't do any at all.

34:03

So I feel like there are some

34:05

countries where I'd be genuinely like oh

34:07

god but I think here what do

34:09

you really do Sam to be honest?

34:11

He just tells people well mostly our

34:14

thing is we just pretend we don't

34:16

exist or that we're maybe a

34:18

small part of Australia. I'm right aren't I Sam? Yeah

34:21

it's a nice country for that. It's like

34:23

I don't want you to be doing bad

34:25

defence. I think it's a nice country

34:27

that you're not making any

34:30

bad moves. Yeah.

34:33

Yeah you're probably not allowed to say anything I use

34:35

by it because it's all highly confidential. Were you even meant

34:37

to say that you work in defence? You

34:41

like James Bond? Like should

34:43

you be even saying it? Are you a terrible

34:45

spy? Dreadful. You've

34:48

done good stuff too. Oh that won't be there. Part

34:53

of the Mars Rover. Is there a chocolate

34:55

bar? Yes. Is

34:57

that people going to Mars to see if it's habitable

34:59

up there and if there's any life up there? Yeah.

35:01

So you are part of the Mars Rover. Well that

35:03

would have been better to say. I'm a space scientist.

35:06

That's what Alex wanted him to say.

35:09

Alex I brought you.

35:11

I'm going to space and

35:13

making sure. Although I do think going to

35:15

space to check that we could just about

35:17

breathe on Mars under a vault.

35:21

Which is fucking Elon Musk's solution to fucking the earth

35:23

up. Why don't we just not fuck the earth up?

35:25

And one of the ways we could not fuck the

35:27

earth up is not sending rockets to fucking Mars. This

35:31

is my suggestion. This is why. Don't

35:33

think I'm wrong about that. You should

35:35

have a PhD. That's why. Because that

35:39

was genius. That's my

35:41

dissertation right there. Where's

35:43

my honor or PhD? That's all I'm asking. That's

35:45

the turn. And it's like the sense of a

35:47

really fancy title for this. It

35:49

takes half an hour. If you

35:51

in the end of all could

35:53

come up with a title, a

35:56

really really long title for that

35:58

idea, don't go to bed. because

36:00

you're causing the earth to be ruined. In which

36:02

case we don't need to go to space. But

36:04

it'll be like 40 words long and

36:06

no one will understand any of the words. I love that.

36:10

We will come to you. You two together could definitely do that

36:12

in the interval. It's a fun interval project. Assuming

36:16

neither of you wish to drink. And

36:18

I think both of you are going to need to drink. Oh, you've already got to drink,

36:20

Haggelix, have you? Yeah. Well

36:23

done. I wish I did. Can

36:25

I ask you, how

36:27

are you feeling overall? Would

36:31

you say that you are more

36:33

guilty or more feminist? I'm

36:36

feeling a little bit feminist this

36:38

week. My

36:41

lovely husband had his appendix out

36:43

on Sunday. I didn't do it. And

36:46

so he has no core strength now

36:50

that he is at home. And so I have been

36:52

doing all the things and I've quite enjoyed

36:54

going, no, no, I'll be fine. So

36:57

I have been bringing in loads of fireworks. I

36:59

know. I've seen myself a little bit now. And

37:02

taking out the big gardening, the

37:04

organic waste thing. We've got to

37:07

miss. I just feel a bit,

37:09

ugh. But also the thing that

37:11

I've quite loved about it is that because

37:13

he has no core strength and he can't

37:15

move, he can't pick anything up. And I

37:17

am quite close to the ground and I

37:19

find that easy. So

37:22

it's been a delight. He's going, ugh. And I go,

37:24

no, no. Allow me. So

37:27

is it like he's Elizabeth I

37:30

and you're also Walter Raleigh? A little bit like that.

37:32

So you put your coat down in the mud for

37:34

him. I am doing that. He

37:36

drops the handkerchief gently and you go and

37:38

pick it up. And he gives it like

37:41

a gender reversal old-fashioned courtship. Yeah, a little

37:43

bit like that. Except when he does move,

37:45

he's like a very pregnant person. And that

37:47

kind of takes the Walter Raleigh-ness out of

37:50

my... I don't

37:52

know how that works. But I watch him

37:54

getting off the couch and it just takes me

37:56

back to being pregnant, shooting in his leg. It's

38:02

hilarious and it's terrific mind

38:04

on a podcast. If you

38:07

were listening at home, Michelle just struggled

38:09

off the sofa onto the floor in

38:12

a way that would make Chaplain jealous. Yes,

38:14

yes. But you'll never see it, never. And

38:16

that's why you should come out to the

38:18

live show. Excellent. Alright,

38:22

are you ready for the set up comedy? Please

38:25

welcome to the stage, the incredible Michelle

38:27

April. Hello, I'm

38:31

just

38:34

going to do that for the rest of my life. No,

38:37

I want to find out where my people are. Where

38:40

are my people tonight? Menopause

38:42

all ladies, make some noise. I

38:45

love us. What

38:48

I'm going to do, half time, menopause all

38:50

ladies, and Perry menopause, oh please check them.

38:52

We'll pop outside, we'll take our caddies off.

38:56

Put them back on. Should we

38:58

take them off again? Talk

39:01

about who we'd like to kill. That's

39:04

where you get to, isn't it? I love it. Estrogen,

39:07

you see, is the hormone, Sam,

39:09

that makes you want people

39:13

to like you and we've got

39:16

no fucking estrogen left. Oh, God, I

39:19

love it. I love it that we're talking about menopause and

39:21

Perry menopause now. So for a little while that was kind

39:23

of the last taboo, right? And of

39:25

course if you tell me that I'm not allowed

39:28

to talk about a thing, I will talk about a thing which

39:30

is great. So as they said, don't talk about the menopause and

39:32

that was like a red rag for a ball. And

39:36

I appreciate that's an inappropriate metaphor in

39:40

this particular scenario. One

39:43

of the things I really like about it

39:45

is that you can wear white pants any

39:47

day you like with absolute confidence. But

39:51

also you're old enough to know that white pants are a fucking

39:53

terrible idea. Don't do that. Unless

39:56

you play cricket or you're in the Navy. doing

40:00

mine but don't do that on a podcast so.

40:04

It's a delight, see now my theory is the

40:06

patriarchy doesn't want us to know you're getting older

40:08

so I just love getting older. This is my,

40:10

I'm middle, well I was going to say I'm

40:12

middle aged, I'm not sure I'm going to make

40:14

it to 124. This

40:20

may not be the middle. I

40:26

can love it though, I do. I love it but

40:28

I mean it's possible there'll be a later bit that

40:31

I like even more. Matt can

40:33

I un-realy interject for couples and for food.

40:38

But this bit is

40:40

truly awesome. I think when they have us

40:42

as women as we age, I think we

40:44

grow into ourselves. Yeah, we start to become

40:46

the person that we were always supposed to

40:49

be. We start to feel really good about

40:51

who we are, our pulse in the world,

40:53

the contribution that we've made to our community.

40:55

We've been sad to feel, you

40:57

know sad to feel quite good about how we look which

41:00

is ironic because around about the time we start to feel

41:02

quite good about how we look, we

41:04

actually start looking quite sick and shit. We

41:11

don't care though do we? No we don't.

41:13

On the inside, this is a good bit,

41:16

on the inside we think

41:18

we're 18. Yeah we do don't we? All of

41:20

us, we think we're 18. I think I'm I'm

41:23

saying I'm bloody stilettos and margaritas. Then

41:26

I tell you how old I am, you say fuck off old

41:28

lady you'll meet a musical in orthopedic shoes. Go

41:33

home and knit for your grandchildren.

41:37

There are a couple of bits that are quite tricky about getting

41:39

old. One of them to me is that you know

41:41

doing a gig like this and I'm gonna stand on

41:43

the light, she's gonna look at me and you know

41:45

I don't want to spend the whole night looking like

41:47

a certain way and you're gonna say to me oh

41:49

are you not well and so

41:53

I kind of try to flossing myself out there's this

41:55

really scary moment where you step out of the the

41:57

shower in the in the hotel bathroom and there's a

42:00

fluorescent light over the mirror because a fucking man designed it.

42:04

You look in the mirror, you've got no makeup on, obviously your

42:06

hair's wet and you go, ooh,

42:13

this'll be a project. But

42:17

you push on through, don't you ladies? Because you don't

42:19

want to scare the horses. There

42:22

are a couple of things that happen that no one wants to

42:24

about. I think

42:26

we are beholding off that you've

42:28

got another certain age such as Missus

42:30

to pass this on to you lovely

42:33

young women. So I'm looking at

42:35

you, I'm looking at you here just behind Alex and Sam. What's

42:37

your name? Rebecca. Rebecca is

42:40

beautiful, she's like 12. And

42:43

Rebecca has perfect skin, you have perfect skin. Look

42:46

at that, there's not a wrinkle on there. I

42:48

know, you're beautiful, you are, you're stunning. I mean,

42:50

hair is probably your natural killer. No

42:54

idea. Just delightful. And

42:56

the thing, was it Rebecca?

42:59

I have very short term memory difficulties

43:01

because I'm really fucking old. Rebecca.

43:05

I'm looking at you, I can see in

43:07

your eyes, I'm looking into your eyes now

43:10

and I can see this glinting

43:12

in there, your hope and

43:14

dreams for the

43:16

future, Rebecca. All

43:19

of that will fade. This is your future. Good

43:21

luck. So a couple of

43:26

things that happen in

43:28

your eyebrows, fucking disappear. I

43:39

don't know where they go Rebecca. Possibly

43:42

into men's ears. I

43:48

don't understand the science of that, it's just an observation

43:50

I've made. You'll

43:53

be out somewhere, you'll see a nice straight couple, you

43:55

look at her, you go, where the fuck

43:57

are your eyebrows? And you look across at her and you go, oh fuck there

43:59

they are. I

44:03

thought about this a lot, I thought about

44:06

this more than anybody should really think about

44:08

it. My theory is that this is why a

44:10

couple of generations ago, do you remember our grandparents used

44:12

to, at middle age, move into twin

44:14

beds? Yeah? Not because they

44:16

didn't want to touch each other. They just

44:22

wanted the eyebrow to

44:26

have further to travel. Because eyebrows

44:30

are nocturnal, yeah? They

44:33

move at night. I think you don't even need a

44:35

fucking PhD to know that. So

44:39

if you're in a double bed, right, your eyebrows just

44:42

wait for dinner and pop to fall asleep and the

44:44

eyebrows just go, aww. But

44:46

if you're in twin beds, picture it. The

44:49

eyebrows go to the edge of one of those beds

44:51

and down a whole bed across the floor which may

44:53

or may not be carpeted, we don't know. I'm mining

44:56

this for the people who are listening to the podcast. It's going

44:58

really well. Up the other bed may or may not be

45:01

a balance there, we don't know, into the air. And if your nana

45:03

was smart, do you remember she used to leave

45:05

a pair of slippers in between the two beds? In the hope

45:07

that she'd wake up

45:09

to fluffy slippers instead of

45:12

fluffy grandpa ears. Thank

45:16

you for coming with me on my story. If

45:19

I don't want to get up to my bed, I don't

45:21

really care if that middle age people don't move into twin

45:23

beds at middle age because they don't want to touch each

45:25

other. Because I tell you

45:28

a little secret about middle age people, we're

45:30

fucking horny aren't we? We're at

45:33

it all the time. Rebecca, you know when you're in a room

45:37

and there are no middle age people in that room, do

45:39

you know why they're not there? They

45:45

are fucking. We're good at

45:48

it too. We've been doing it for a long time

45:50

haven't we? We are highly skilled.

45:52

Also we've been doing it for a long

45:54

time so we're doing some weird shit to

45:56

keep it interesting. We're doing

45:59

some shit. it's so weird Rebecca

46:02

you haven't even seen

46:04

it in the porn.

46:06

It's important I think that young people understand

46:08

this. It's a life lesson

46:10

because they think you know when you're young you start having the sex

46:12

as I like to call it because that makes it hot. Start

46:16

having the sex you think you're better at it than

46:18

anyone's ever been ever before you've kind of invented it

46:21

you haven't but you think you know, never did it.

46:23

I just want all of you young people Rebecca, anybody

46:25

young in the room tonight to see this in

46:27

my next time. Next time

46:29

you're doing the sex just

46:34

be reminded probably at that exact

46:36

moment your

46:39

mum and dad are

46:44

doing it better. That's my time I

46:46

would still see you soon. She's

47:04

fantastic isn't she? This

47:07

is my first tour in Etiroa

47:10

without Cal Wilson which

47:13

is so sad and we started in

47:15

Christchurch which is her hometown and we only found out at the

47:17

end of the show we talked about her a lot and

47:19

we only found out there's a show that the theatre we

47:22

were using there is attached to her high school and

47:24

it felt like she was with us all night

47:26

and I just want to do a shout out

47:28

to Cal and everybody who loved her because she's

47:32

very much with us on

47:34

the tour. My

47:37

husband gave me a locket with our faces in it

47:39

that I'm wearing and her husband Chris gave me

47:41

this peg which is

47:43

I don't know if anyone remembers but Cal wants to deny me

47:45

a feminist but I'm a feminist but my side quest is for

47:47

the perfect clothes peg and then after that

47:49

people would come to the shows with pegs for her saying

47:51

this is the best peg and this is the one

47:53

she decided was the best peg and

47:56

it's on my clipboard for the whole tour. So

47:59

I just want to say. We're thinking of

48:01

her and I was so thrilled when Michelle said she could

48:03

do it because she was actually on the way To

48:05

give Cal's parents a special book from

48:08

the comedians and other comedians in New Zealand So

48:10

it was really special that she said I got

48:12

the call on the way and I thought this

48:14

is Cal passing the baton And it

48:16

has been really well. I didn't know Michelle and I well

48:18

we tried to have her on once But her

48:20

daughter decided to give birth that night So

48:23

fish and So

48:26

we didn't have her on and then the cards fell

48:28

as they did and we never had her and I

48:30

so I didn't know her But I just trusted she'd

48:32

be the right person and she really really is because

48:34

she loved Cal so much And we feel such a

48:36

massive connection through Cal and she's got a very Cal

48:39

energy So it's just wonderful.

48:41

This is only my second show without Cal and Michelle's

48:43

been there by session already I feel like I've

48:45

known Michelle for years. So could you just give it

48:47

up one more time to Michelle? We've

48:58

got a very special guest for you now She

49:00

is a poet and she's going

49:02

to perform some of her poetry for you tonight Her

49:06

messages of love healing and female empowerment have

49:08

resonated with her readers making her a popular

49:10

Instagram poet Millions of people around

49:12

the world have shared her signature black and

49:15

white quotes in 2020. She published the

49:17

her story project a Compilation

49:19

of poems inspired by the stories

49:21

of real women She is the founder

49:23

of the inspirational women Awards an event

49:25

to elevate and celebrate women while raising

49:27

funds and awareness around domestic violence She's

49:30

going to read you some of the poems tonight

49:32

that were inspired by real women stories

49:34

They sent them to her on Instagram and she wrote

49:36

poems in return Please put your

49:39

hands together and make incredible welcoming

49:41

guilty feminist noises So

49:48

as you've said these poems I'm going to read you some of the poems tonight read

50:00

tonight were written by me, but they

50:02

were inspired by the stories of real

50:04

women from Olti Oroa and around the

50:06

world who were brave enough to share

50:08

their stories with me and

50:10

allow me to turn them into poems. You

50:16

tell me that I am

50:18

not as pretty as your ex-girlfriend. You

50:22

throw me against the pantry as you use

50:24

one hand to clasp my neck. You

50:26

run the other hand over my body places I

50:29

did not give you permission to touch. You

50:33

probably thought I'd forgive you.

50:36

You probably thought I'd stay.

50:39

After all, you did your best to break

50:41

me, so you probably thought I'd

50:43

just forget this day. But

50:47

what you didn't account for is the

50:50

fact that I was

50:52

strong. You're probably

50:54

wondering where I am now. You're

50:57

probably wishing that you never did me wrong.

51:00

I'm sure you're probably dreaming that

51:02

I reopened my heart and give you the

51:04

key. Or you're probably

51:07

sitting there regretting ever

51:09

underestimating me. Thank

51:20

you. So I'm going to read three tonight,

51:22

and this is the second one. That

51:25

one I just read was a woman from Olti

51:27

Oroa. You

51:30

were supposed to be a role model. That's

51:33

what teachers are to school children,

51:35

right? Of course I

51:37

looked up to you. You were the

51:40

one who taught us how to read and write. You

51:43

taught us how to dream. I

51:46

thought of the things that you had taught

51:48

me as I lay

51:50

naked in your bed that first night.

51:53

I listened to your voice in the darkness

51:56

as your teachings began to change,

51:59

where one you had told me about

52:01

literature, now you pointed

52:03

out my flaws. You

52:06

told me I was worthless, you told me I

52:08

was fat. You

52:10

asked if I could wear shorter

52:13

skirts because you would really

52:15

like that. It

52:18

took me a long time to realize that

52:21

at least you taught me one thing, that

52:24

the teachings I learned for myself are

52:27

more important than any teachings.

52:42

And this final one is from another

52:45

New Zealand woman. Dear

52:49

broken girl, you

52:51

are so young to have been through

52:53

so much pain, but

52:55

I want you to take those pieces and

52:58

rebuild yourself again. And

53:01

no, it won't be easy, and no,

53:04

it will be a long road. But

53:07

I want you to take everything they

53:09

shattered and use it to

53:11

build a throne. Build

53:14

yourself a throne and a kingdom

53:16

and a crown and a terrace

53:18

so high you have to look

53:20

down. And when he

53:22

comes knocking, crawling, begging

53:25

at your door, I want

53:27

you to tell him that he is not

53:29

allowed in your kingdom anymore. Thank

53:33

you, thank you. Julia's

53:36

training today. Thank you,

53:38

Julia. Hello.

53:44

I have brought a guest all

53:46

the way, she's really more of a colleague. She's

53:49

really more of somebody who, if I don't

53:52

bring her with me, half of

53:54

you wouldn't come probably. She's

53:56

a main attraction, let's put it that way. I

53:59

absolutely. I love working with her, I love touring

54:01

with her. She's one of my absolutely favorite people. And

54:04

it's the only way I can get her to

54:06

spend time with me. Please put your hands together

54:08

and make incredible woofing noises all the way from

54:10

Leicester in the United Kingdom. Leicester legend, Grace Patre.

54:13

How are you guys doing? Lovely

54:19

to be back here. Give

54:31

me a shout if you've seen me

54:33

before. Wooooo! Crikey. Give

54:36

me a shout if it's your first time seeing me. Wooooo! Oh,

54:39

wow, oh wow. A

54:42

lot happier than the ones that have. I'll

54:46

try not to take that too personally. If

54:48

you haven't seen me before,

54:51

I'm a protest singer. That's

54:53

why I do a right left wing protest song.

54:56

And yeah, I've been doing that for about 14 years. And

55:00

basically what would happen is we

55:02

have had in the United Kingdom

55:05

this terrible succession of

55:07

Prime Ministers. How

55:10

to write all these songs about them. And

55:14

I never used to be able to sing them here because I

55:16

thought they won't understand that. So

55:24

this one's for you guys. I

55:30

wrote this song.

55:32

It's on my most recent album. And

55:34

I wrote this song after I read

55:37

that. Boris Johnson,

55:40

as well Prime Minister in the UK. I read that

55:42

in the months after he left office

55:45

in disgrace, he made

55:47

a million pounds from after dinner speeches

55:49

alone. And

55:51

I read that and I thought it really is fucking rigged,

55:53

isn't it? The whole system. So I

55:56

wrote this song about it and it's called The House

55:58

Always Wins. That's it. I

56:00

think they

56:02

teach it even if

56:05

you recognize them. They

56:07

have come no easier

56:11

than desperate in the dark. Little

56:14

smoke and mirrors boys you've got them

56:16

on the hook. Blaming other

56:18

folks know what you took. Biggest

56:22

con man came when we were looking down

56:24

the hill. I'm the milking hottie

56:26

boys and I've been ready to yell.

56:30

At every single architect whose richest

56:32

is we love. Our weapons and

56:34

our industry's direct. The only thing

56:37

he's got you tied up in.

56:39

You hurry from

56:41

the zoo, you're free to go. Roll

56:45

up and look. I'm

56:47

like your best. You

56:49

get the same chance every day.

56:51

You're from the poor, you're mine.

56:56

You are holding citizens here.

56:59

In the dust of the forest, the

57:01

cayenne sea, yes you're

57:03

crazy. The devil's home. The

57:06

sun is burning, the sun is burning. The sun

57:08

is shining, the cayenne sea, the ruler will spin.

57:11

I'm so lazy. Well

57:20

watch out for the coming boys to

57:22

listen in the clown. Razzle

57:24

dazzle bulldog, no he's never let us

57:27

down. The young man of

57:29

the circus, who lies beneath the mask.

57:31

Ain't it funny, no one ever thought

57:33

to ask. When

57:36

the game is up and every

57:38

golden goose is trying. The pollen

57:40

of the pungsome is a no

57:42

one passing away. The quail-caught

57:44

reputation, all of you got this

57:46

every time. Ain't it funny, no

57:48

one ever draws the line. Remember I

57:51

got you too, look, the apple's in

57:53

his teeth. Taking

57:56

home the mill here between. Roll

57:59

up, roll up. I'm

58:01

like your best. I'm

58:30

like your best. You're

59:00

just the same young everybody,

59:02

yes. You're

59:05

from the city of

59:07

your life. You are all in the least

59:10

confined within nine. Because

59:13

the tide is always loaded. And

59:16

can we pull a few greens? Is that

59:18

all the time that the earth will come

59:20

out of the distance? Or will you ever wade a

59:22

ruler else's fence?

59:26

That's all I'd swim. I'm

59:28

so awake. I'm

59:32

so awake. I'm

59:36

so awake. Oh

59:58

my God. It's

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1:01:28

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1:01:31

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1:01:35

reducing the number of political posts

1:01:38

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go to your Instagram profile, tap

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the three horizontal lines in

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the top right corner to

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open the settings tab, scroll

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down to what you see, click

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on content preferences, open

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Don't limit political content. That's

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Please do that now or you won't even see

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