It doesn't matter how you start; it's how you finish that makes the difference. In the season finale of The Heart of Pastoring Podcast, Jared and Ronnie discuss the "why" behind the qualification that pastors not be recent converts, what happen

Episode 9: Not Greedy

Apr 11th, 2024

Does anyone go into ministry for the money? Maybe. Jared and Ronnie didn't think they'd have a lot to say about the pursuit of money -- and what the apostle Peter calls "shameful gain" -- but they did. And it turns out ministerial greed and sha

Episode 8: Not a Bully but Gentle

Apr 4th, 2024

Is gentleness the lost art of pastoring? The apostle Paul forbids pastors from being bullies and from being quarrelsome, but many pastors (and churchgoers) today seem to think these qualifications are optional and even valorize ministerial viol

Episode 7: Able to Teach

Mar 28th, 2024

Does every pastor need to be gifted in the pulpit? Does every pastor need to be an academic or a scholar? What does the biblical qualification of pastors that they be "able to teach" actually mean? Jared and Ronnie, two long-time preachers and

Episode 6: Hospitable

Mar 21st, 2024

Do you have to be an extrovert to meet this qualification for pastoral ministry? Does hospitality only refer to fellowship with other believers? In this episode, Jared and Ronnie talk about the postures and opportunities of true hospitality, a

Episode 5: Sensible

Mar 14th, 2024

When we say "pastor on Twitter," what image first comes to your mind? It's likely not an even-keeled, thoughtful, diserning personality. But social media isn't the only platform for unstable pastors. In this new episode, Jared and Ronnie talk a

Episode 4: Self-Controlled

Mar 7th, 2024

The biblical qualifications for ministry require that pastors be self-controlled, sober-minded, not a drunkard, etc. Jared and Ronnie have an insightful conversation in this episode about the various roots of some pastors’ lack of self-control,

Episode 3: Husband of One Wife

Feb 29th, 2024

The cliche ministry danger of “sacrificing one’s family on the altar of the church” is cliche for a reason. In this episode of the podcast, Jared and Ronnie explain the biblical qualification of being a “one-woman man” (as well as managing the

Episode 2: Above Reproach

Feb 16th, 2024

The evangelical landscape is littered with the corpses of fallen ministries, and Jared and Ronnie have had more than a few friends among them. Listen in as they discuss what it means to be “above reproach” (as well as “respectable” and having a

Episode 1: Preface

Feb 13th, 2024

What happens when you put two veteran pastors and friends in a room and ask them to have a candid conversation about ministry? In this all-new podcast series, The Heart of Pastoring, Jared C. Wilson and Ronnie Martin reflect on the biblical qua

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