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Bird flu. We've talked about this over the last
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couple of weeks because it's really been ramping up.
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We talked about the gain of function background on
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this. We talked about the increased testing. But
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now it's time for the vaccine
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conversation because that is the newest
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movement right now. Take a look. All
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right. Are we heading
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towards another pandemic? Could
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this turn into another COVID? Concerns are
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growing over the possible spread of bird
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flu in the U.S. With worries over
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the potential spread of bird flu, there's
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also renewed focus on a vaccine. We
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do know that they're preparing in
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production 4.8 million vaccines.
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This new vaccine is following the same pipeline that
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led to the quick development of the COVID vaccine.
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mRNA vaccines are such an
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agile platform. As soon
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as we see a new virus, whether
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it's a coronavirus or in this case
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a flu virus, we can very quickly
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design new mRNA vaccines to be specifically
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matched to what's circulating. One of the
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things we have to look at, look,
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what Finland's doing, which I mentioned last
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week, is to vaccinate the high risk
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farm workers. We already have H5N1 vaccines
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stockpiled in this country specifically for this
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reason. We need to use it.
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We need to nip this in the bud before
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the virus gets used to transmitting between humans and
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becoming very good at it. That's not what we
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want. When
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I think about, we've done a lot of shows
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when they were looking at even at Omicron and
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his other variants of COVID, how
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the vaccinated seemed to
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accelerate the process of the evolution
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of the virus in a leaky
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vaccine that is not stopping transmission
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or killing the virus. This sounds
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like a really, really bad idea.
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I know a lot of people around the
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world are tuning in to our show for
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this conversation because of reporting during COVID. Let's
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get into this vaccine topic because we're here
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now with the bird flu, which a lot
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of people probably can't believe. Here's
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the headlines. It's almost like deja vu. You
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asked to make millions of bird flu
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vaccines. vaccine doses this summer as cases
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grow. The CDC has its
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influenza monitoring site. They're looking at the
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novel influenza A. And
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since 2022, which was when this bird flu outbreak
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really began, but we're being told it was, 350
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people have been tested. So really low numbers
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here, if you're looking at, compared to even
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the beginning of COVID. So that's gonna be
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something for people to watch out for. When
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those tests start going up in people exponentially,
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this lays the groundwork, as we know,
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for this vaccination paradigm, this program for
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the bird flu. Remember
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what we were calling, or a
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lot of people were calling was
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a testemic, right? This idea that
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you started testing, you were running
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these incredibly sensitive cycles tests that
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really could give you false positives like
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crazy, but what difference does it make,
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you know, if you're asymptomatic and healthy?
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And here we go again with bird
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flu vaccinations, recommending
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them, testing people. And as we
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pointed out so many times on
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this show, that narrative
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that when you start seeing the
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media all saying the same thing,
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that's not news anymore. That's propaganda.
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Now your government health agencies and
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the WHO, and maybe the WEF
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is in there, who knows, but
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they are writing these lines now for all
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of your news to start telling you these
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things, to start running these things. That's when
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you gotta get nervous because now we're not
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reporting news, we are
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reporting what we want you to
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believe is happening in this world,
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and your way out of the
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problem that they are making up
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in their crazy little minds. And
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so many people have legit media literacy
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from having lived experience through COVID that
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they can see between these lines, which
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is really great. So
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this is Finland here, they're actually moving forward with
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this. Finland is gonna be a global first. Finland
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to offer bird flu vaccine to select group of
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people, but
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you know, this article says, it talks
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about the vaccine for the first time, the vaccine. be administered
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in Finland is designed off a different
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avian influenza virus called H5N8, so
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not even the one that's circulating. But
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researchers say the shot should still confer
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protection against H5N1. European regulators
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authorized the vaccine, which is
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known as zoonotic influenza vaccine
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cigarettes, based on a number
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of studies showing that it
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elicited immune responses that scientists
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think would be protective against
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avian influenza. Researchers can't run
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traditional efficacy trials with such
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products because the virus isn't
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circulating among people, so they are typically
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approved based on these immunogenicity studies. So
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there's your vaccine, and we have Time
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Magazine really banging the drum here in
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the United States, calling saying we are
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not safe is the headline from bird
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flu until we protect farm workers. And
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then you go into the article. I
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got to stop here, because we're going
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to talk to Wolfgang, and that's going
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to be super interesting. But pull up
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that headline, everybody. If you are just
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watching this show for the first time,
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then there's something you're not understanding about
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the language they're using, protecting farm workers,
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right? That is it. They're not saying
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we need to stop the transmission. We
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need a vaccine that stops it in
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its tracks, which the COVID vaccine never
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did. What you're talking about is giving
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farm workers a product that will help
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them stay alive so that they can
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carry this virus and give it to
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everybody else. That's the
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big goal here. Let's make sure
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they carry it from animals and
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somehow create an incubator inside of
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their own body that's not going
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to kill it like your immune
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system would, but then goes on
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to spread it to the rest
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of us. This is why mainstream
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media is full of a bunch
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of dumbos, everybody, that don't understand
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the science, have no concept of
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what they're talking about, and are
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marching their propaganda orders, which make
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no sense when you look at
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it scientifically. I just want to point that
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out. This is why, get ready, folks, you're going
5:57
to have to start getting your friends to tune
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back into the high wire because
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we're the only ones that actually
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talked to real freaking scientists that
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spent their lives studying germs and
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viruses to help you understand what
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this really means. And
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when you go down to this article a
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little bit, you see it's basically just an
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advertisement for the seasonal flu shot. So it
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says, regardless of whether farm workers are prioritized
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for H5N1 vaccination, we should increase efforts now
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to ensure farm workers are vaccinated against the
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seasonal flu come fall. And so
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another side story on this is the
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flu vaccines are made
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on basically chicken eggs. So
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they're made in chicken eggs. So this has been
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a big problem. And this has been something even
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before we even heard of bird flu that people
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have been trying research has been trying to shift
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this. Let's use gene therapy, let's use mRNA to
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try to make a new vaccine, a universal flu
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vaccine. So this is now coming back
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up. This topic is now coming back up and they're
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going to see if they can maybe make the shift
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now. This vaccine is made
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with eggs that as scientists worried, of course it does.
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So what are they doing? Scientists developing
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mRNA based vaccine against H5N1 bird flu. This
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is still in its early stages at
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this point, but it's not stopping there.
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They're going for cows as well. Two
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dozen companies to that
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end working to find bird flu
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vaccine for cows. US agriculture secretary
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says. And then finally,
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US Europe weighing vaccinating poultry
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dairy workers exposed to bird
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flu. And it's interesting here, you
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read this article, you look into this and who do they
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quote? Dutch flu virologist, Ron Fuchet
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of the Erasmus MC in Rotterdam, who
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has conducted experiments mapping the changes necessary
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for bird flu to spark a pandemic,
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gain a function funded by Collins,
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Francis Collins and Tony Fauci said
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Europe's plan is to procure the
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CSL vaccine for people occupationally exposed
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to the virus. His lab could
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well be eligible if the vaccine becomes available.
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He said adding, I would certainly take it.
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Well, we're waiting for common
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sense and critical things. to come
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back and we see glimmers of
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that. We've seen it and we're still
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seeing it. One of them recently is Nick
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Coatsworth. He was one of the deputy
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chief medical officers in Australia during the COVID
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response, a very well-known face and
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he's had quite an interesting trajectory over the last couple
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of years. Take a look. There
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will be a strong public view that
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those who choose not to get vaccinated need
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to, there
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needs to be some sort of incentive
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stick perhaps through the
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current programs including No Jab, No Pay to
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make that happen. I think as
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a general principle we could all
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agree that mandates have a time
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limited role in a
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pandemic. The dispute and the question
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will be how long should
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that time be and what is a
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reasonable level of community vaccination to
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achieve before we abandon mandates. My
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view, not quite at the moment,
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I agree entirely that they're time
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limited. Well let's understand the science
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which is if you get a fifth dose your
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protection against severe disease is enhanced for
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around about eight to twelve weeks and
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then it returns to what it was
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after the fourth dose or the third
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dose. So it's very transient protection Carl,
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it's not increased protection for life and
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that's the problem with these boosters and
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of course eventually we're going to have to
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stop with these recommendations for ongoing. Right, but
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you rightly point out Nick that you're
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a government official promoting vaccines during the pandemic, you're
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a big boy you can defend yourself, did you
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get it wrong? Well
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I think certainly we didn't get
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it wrong promoting the vaccines Carl but
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the mandates, yes I think we did
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get that wrong and I think you
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can say hindsight is 2020 but Carl
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hindsight gives us foresight and
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if we have another pandemic we
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should think long and hard whether
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mandates for vaccines are justified. Are
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you still being vaccinated for COVID?
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No, when did you stop doing that? About
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two years ago. years ago I had three vaccines
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and that's been enough for me. Any reason why?
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Because I don't think I need any more Ben
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and the science tells me that I don't. I
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don't know
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what science he's looking at as far as I
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know the CDC is still recommending I believe it's
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the ninth booster shot for some people here in
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the United States of America.
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I mean look it's
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amazing to watch that trajectory and
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thank God for those people that
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have the ability to start recognizing
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the facts and reality but so
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many politicians still stand by you
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know the mandates as though they
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somehow had some effect and they
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seem blind to the fact that
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the vaccine never ultimately stopped
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transmission for anyone and causes all sorts
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of other problems because of that. Jeffrey
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I love that you're looking into all of
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this these are really scary developments so
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on the one hand where we're really
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pushing into a real war with
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NATO and Russia we were also you
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know about to come under another
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world war which is how I
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described the last COVID pandemic which
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was all of the nations of
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the world attacking their citizens with
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authoritarianism using health
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and science as the argument all
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of which has come up short
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with the benefit of hindsight for every
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network but ours. We
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didn't need hindsight we
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had foresight just like he was talking about so
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Jeffrey I really owe a lot of that to
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you the great work that you've been doing all
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of your investigations unfortunately it
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feels like we are going to need foresight right
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now and I hope I
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hope that people recognize that
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the reason we're reporting on this is is
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not because we are trying to drum up
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the fear help them push the fear but
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to push the absurdity so that we can
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let our friends know don't buy into this
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I feel like if they realize we're watching
11:53
them and we're calling out their plays before
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they make it that they're less
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likely to push forward because they realize they are
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the last. laughingstock that the curtain has
12:01
already been pulled back. We're watching
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you try to build this Wizard
12:06
of Oz and we're not
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gonna let it happen again. So let's just keep
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our focus on this and show
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them as the pantless fools
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they really are. Absolutely.
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