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There's been a lot of predictions
0:02
on this show. We've stretched out into a lot
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of different places, but let's talk about
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banking today because it's on everyone's
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mind. If you've watched the news or
0:11
turned it on at all, this is
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what we're all worrying about.
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The Federal Reserve is expected to announce another round
0:16
of interest rate hikes tomorrow. This comes amid growing
0:19
calls for accountability after several banks collapsed
0:21
earlier this month.
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What we saw over a week ago now was
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the Treasury, the Fed, and
0:28
the FDIC stepping in to guarantee guarantee
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depositors of Silicon Valley Bank
0:32
which had failed.
0:33
On Friday, the
0:35
government regulator in charge, the FDIC,
0:38
took control of Silicon Valley Bank's assets.
0:41
And over the weekend, it took control
0:43
of signature bank's assets.
0:44
But analysts caution we are not
0:47
out of the woods yet, and that is because of San
0:49
Francisco-based regional bank First
0:51
Republic, which is now in focus. Its stock plunged
0:53
more than 47 percent yesterday. S&P
0:57
Global downgraded the company at a junk status.
0:59
The nation's biggest banks made a dramatic
1:02
move today to rescue a smaller bank
1:04
and head off a potential crisis. Eleven
1:06
of the top financial institutions, including
1:09
Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, and
1:11
Citibank will pump $30
1:13
billion into
1:14
First Republic Bank to keep it from collapsing.
1:17
We wanted to make sure that the
1:19
problems at Silicon Valley Bank
1:22
and Signature Bank didn't undermine
1:24
confidence in
1:27
the soundness of banks around
1:29
the country. It's a great idea
1:31
in theory, but the devil is truly
1:34
in the details and that's going to be the
1:36
devil here. Who's going to pay the price?
1:39
I'm going to be honest with you. I'm very
1:42
well read when it comes to vaccines and issues
1:44
like this, but when I was driving the car today
1:46
with my son, Ever, my daughter, they
1:49
in the car, we were heading to school and they were talking
1:51
about this issue on the radio
1:54
and I turned to my son and said, you know, ever,
1:57
this is something that I do not fully understand.
1:59
whole economy thing. We were not well
2:01
trained in school unless you took specific
2:04
classes. So today I'm
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going to bring on somebody that really does
2:08
know what's happening here was a part
2:11
of it because she was formerly the
2:13
assistant HUD secretary under George
2:16
Bush. I'm talking about Catherine
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Austin Fitz. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined
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now. Catherine. Hi, Del.
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Interesting times.
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They are interesting times.
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And what's really scary
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about it in a way is it feels
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like, and what I want to talk to you about, you've predicted
2:35
a lot of this. You've been on our show and others
2:38
really warning us that the financial
2:41
systems of the world were not strong,
2:43
that we were going to have issues. But is
2:46
this, you know, this sort of started,
2:49
it really came to light with this Silicon
2:51
Valley bank. What happened
2:54
exactly? What is this, you know,
2:56
what happened there and is it triggering something
2:58
bigger or is it just revealing what's really taking
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place?
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So there's things we know and they're things we don't
3:04
know What we know is you had
3:06
a group of short sellers who could make money on
3:08
driving the stock down and the
3:10
stock was Susceptible to short selling
3:12
because they had a very high percentage
3:15
of uninsured deposits So if
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you look at the average deposits insured
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deposits the banks have
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Silicon Valley was very very low
3:23
So they had low insured
3:26
deposits. They had a loan portfolio
3:29
that had been bubbled by the pump
3:31
during the pandemic that the Fed did. So
3:34
the Fed bubbles the economy. They
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do a whole bunch of loans that go into things
3:38
like life sciences, biotech, tech,
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you know, building the smart grid things that you've talked
3:43
about on the high wire. And so you,
3:45
but the last thing is the regulators have encouraged
3:48
the banks to put their investment portfolios
3:50
long
3:51
and of course with rising interest rates
3:53
the investment portfolios go down. if you get
3:55
a run on deposits. Remember,
3:58
a run can start for financial reasons. by can
4:00
also start dell for political reasons
4:02
and part of what we're looking at here as a political
4:05
war not just finance and so
4:07
so you get a run going a have to sell
4:10
you know treasury bonds or or bills
4:12
or fannies or friday's from your investment portfolio
4:14
because the portfolios down because interest rates
4:16
been going up you take a loss that
4:18
makes people skittish we saw
4:21
the rating agencies get skittish mooney
4:23
was was in it and they were
4:25
anticipating that moody's my drop their ratings
4:27
and then so people start worrying about the loan
4:30
portfolio because every bank in the world
4:32
is is god deposits
4:35
that are highly potentially liquid
4:37
especially if you have somebody moving
4:39
a lot out fast but you're putting
4:41
it in investment portfolios that are liquid
4:44
but they can be down in price at any given time
4:46
and putting him in the loan portfolio is that are illiquid
4:49
so
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that's why you don't want to how you can have
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a highly solve an excellent bank
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but it can be septum susceptible serines
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now what you had was a slowing down
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ip yo you know sort of
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tech bubble
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you had the long portfolios
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and i would tell you i think you
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know what we saw on sep is very
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much encouraged by
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the bubbles that the fed has flown
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and what's called the going direct reset going
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direct reset was a plan that the central
5:17
bankers agree to in the beginning
5:19
in august of two thousand and nineteen and
5:22
the pandemic and all the lockdowns was
5:24
clearly a part of that plan and
5:26
so what we're looking at is is an effort
5:28
to consolidate control in
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law i'm in
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the economy first you take out the
5:34
small business then you take out the small banks
5:37
so you know but there's definitely
5:40
an effort to consolidate it's financial
5:42
warfare and i will tell you you
5:44
can understand the still because you understand
5:46
politics and what we're watching
5:48
is much more politics and using
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the federal credit and our money to pick winners
5:52
and losers that has nothing to do with
5:54
creating productivity in the in the fundamental
5:57
economy you know i have
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no i have other cool from Janet
6:01
Yellen, let's take a look at this, because I think it's part of what you're talking
6:03
about now. Let's take a look at this. Will the deposits
6:06
in every community bank in Oklahoma,
6:09
regardless of their size, be fully
6:11
insured now? Are they fully recovered?
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Every bank, every community bank in Oklahoma,
6:16
regardless of the size of the deposit, will
6:19
they get the same treatment that SVP
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just got or Signature
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Bank just got?
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Bank only gets that treatment
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if a majority of the FDIC
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board, a supermajority,
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a supermajority of the Fed
6:36
board and I in consultation
6:40
with the president determine
6:42
that the failure to
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protect uninsured depositors
6:48
would create systemic risk
6:50
and significant economic and
6:53
financial consequences. I
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mean, this is what you're saying, right? A lot of people are concerned
6:58
that this is the government picking and choosing
7:00
who survives and who does not.
7:03
Right. Well, not just who survives and
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not, but if we look at the rumors of who
7:07
started the run,
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we're talking about the people who own
7:11
and control the New York Fed triggering
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runs that advantage their deposit
7:16
base and help them consolidate. So we
7:20
know, Dell, that for many decades
7:22
we've dealt with increasing lawlessness
7:25
by the New York Fed and the government. We
7:28
are in significant violations of
7:30
the federal financial management laws on both the
7:32
New York Fed side and the U.S.
7:34
government treasury. And so now
7:37
we see Langford in the Senate
7:39
rightly nailing Yellen, who's
7:41
not only been, who's not only Secretary of
7:43
Treasury, she has been the chairman of the Fed and
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she has been the president of the San Francisco
7:48
Fed
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that was, remember the CEO
7:51
of SVP was on the board of the San Francisco
7:54
Fed and found himself dumped
7:55
off the board on the day they took SVP
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down. So this...
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The chickens are coming home to roost. When you
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engage in a financial coup run by
8:05
the Treasury Department and the New York Fed for 20 or 30
8:07
years, then you're going to get these kinds
8:09
of consolidations. And it's exactly what
8:12
we saw during the pandemic.
8:14
You saw
8:15
large companies being
8:17
advantaged by the government to steal market
8:19
share and assets from
8:21
the smaller businesses. And we're seeing the same
8:23
thing today. And the problem with Adele
8:25
at the root is you're helping the unproductive
8:29
cannibalize the productive. And
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that's what Senator Langford was so upset
8:33
about, and he's dead on right and he nailed her. Good
8:35
job. Wow. Now, there's
8:38
some video coming out of France. I want to take
8:40
a look at this and see if it's connected at all. This is
8:42
a lot of the riots that are taking place
8:44
over a change in the pension plans
8:47
there. Let's take a look at this footage.
9:47
I
9:58
mean not a lot of coverage here in America.
10:00
but it appears that once again Paris
10:02
is burning. And my understanding is
10:04
that this is about just increasing
10:07
the age of retirement or
10:09
access to pensions by two years. It
10:11
seems like a pretty strong reaction
10:14
to something like that. Is that what this is all about?
10:16
And how important is this pension
10:19
issue in sort of the debt crisis that
10:21
we're looking at here in America and around the world?
10:24
It's a very important issue because since
10:26
the mid 90s, both
10:28
in Europe and the United States. People
10:32
have been made retirement promises, but
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the finances have been managed in a way where
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they were purposely knowing.
10:40
They were setting the situation up so those promises
10:42
could never be taken care
10:43
of. So in the United States,
10:45
we see $21 trillion disappearing
10:47
from the US government. It's basically a
10:49
financial coup.
10:51
Similar things have happened in Europe, and
10:53
including kicking the can. So when somebody goes
10:55
to work and says, I'll take a reduced
10:57
payment in exchange for a good pension fund where
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I can retire at an early age.
11:02
They did the work, now you're switching
11:05
the rules. And you're switching, you're extending
11:08
the retirement age
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at the very
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time, Del, that the government is
11:14
instituting healthcare policies which are
11:16
lowering life expectancy. So
11:19
what you're doing is you're balancing the
11:21
books on the retirement plan by changing
11:23
the rules and lowering the average
11:27
life that the beneficiaries are going to get. Now,
11:30
what the French would say is we
11:34
have one of the lowest retirement ages
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in Europe, and that's true, and
11:38
lower than the United States. But the reality
11:41
is they got all those people to work based on that promise.
11:43
So you're switching the deal
11:45
after the work is done. The other
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thing, which is part of what brought people out in
11:49
the streets,
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you know, Macron
11:53
passed that without going to the General Assembly
11:55
and getting their agreement. And
11:58
he played some clever tricks. and what
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this is is taxation without representation.
12:03
So you're destroying any kind of democratic
12:05
process
12:07
in the process of doing this. Is
12:10
France alone in these efforts? I mean, when
12:12
we look at these pensions, do you think
12:14
we're going to see similar actions by
12:17
other European countries or even
12:19
here in America? Do we have a similar
12:21
issue with our pensions?
12:24
So you're going to see similar actions. We've
12:26
seen the same action in Russia. You've
12:30
seen it in France. Again, France has one of the
12:32
lowest retirement ages, so they're more likely.
12:35
But again, I would
12:37
focus on it's not just raising the retirement
12:39
rate, it's lowering life expectancy.
12:42
And you watch the pandemic,
12:45
tremendous lowering of life
12:47
expectancy in many different places. And
12:49
that's part of balancing
12:52
the books. There are two ways you can balance the books. You
12:54
can save more, or you can raise the retirement
12:57
age, and you can lower life expectancy.
13:00
That's
13:00
the formula. Wow. When
13:04
you look at these bailouts
13:06
and we look at what's happening in
13:08
the world, where are we at financially? Should
13:10
we be alarmed at what
13:13
we're seeing? Is it revealing something? Or is this all,
13:15
in your mind, just a part of a
13:17
process? It looks scary, but we're going to get
13:20
through it.
13:21
So we're in a political
13:23
process where the people who run the financial system
13:26
have engineered a financial coup. We should
13:28
have gotten concerned 20 or 30 years ago, but
13:31
we've been kicking the can. And
13:33
now their way of dealing with
13:35
letting us down, sort of managing
13:38
our expectations, is to cancel
13:40
currency and go to a financial system with
13:42
complete control. So
13:45
they want to be able to control. They want to
13:47
be able to turn your money off and on, which they
13:49
can do in an all-digital system. And
13:52
what we're now seeing at the state level is
13:54
real pushback by consumers,
13:56
by citizens, by state legislators
13:58
saying we don't want want to be controlled
14:01
by an all-digital system. There's a
14:03
huge push to continue
14:05
to make sure to preserve cash, not
14:08
just in the United States, but in Europe. Because
14:10
an all-digital system gives,
14:13
ultimately, the people who control those central
14:15
banks and the banking system an
14:18
ability to literally turn on and off
14:20
your money if you don't do exactly what they say.
14:23
And exactly what you say includes taxation
14:25
without representation, health care
14:27
mandates, literally taking away
14:29
your
14:29
kids. You're talking of course
14:32
about I think about CBDC's the central
14:34
banking digital currency concept that's
14:36
starting to really float around. Something
14:38
that you warned about some time ago, talking about
14:40
Bitcoin, that they were watching this, they may have even
14:42
designed it to test the markets and see if they
14:44
could get us used to the idea. Do you
14:47
still see you know those original
14:50
cryptocurrencies as test
14:53
grounds or are they places
14:55
people should be,
14:57
you know, protecting the rest of them.
14:59
So I believe Bitcoin and crypto were encouraged
15:02
to prototype CBDCs. The
15:04
danger of any digital system, Dell,
15:07
is it can be centrally controlled. So you
15:10
know, so Bitcoin ultimately on the in
15:12
and out, the liquidity can be destroyed or
15:14
hampered in a way that's going to affect your price. So
15:17
what you want to do, I love digital system,
15:19
but you want to have a balance of digital,
15:22
digital systems but healthy analog
15:24
systems. And the reason we focused on Solari
15:27
at cash every day and making sure that
15:29
that cash can happen is
15:32
so you have transaction freedom.
15:34
Our goal is financial transaction freedom
15:36
and a healthy,
15:38
healthy financial system has both healthy
15:40
digital and healthy analog. The
15:42
challenge for all of us is how are we going to absolutely
15:45
prevent the
15:46
central bankers from
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instituting complete financial controls,
15:51
whether they do it through their payment systems,
15:54
whether they do it through CBDCs, they
15:56
have other methods if they ensure all
15:58
the banking deposits. the country, it's
16:01
only but a few steps until they have complete
16:03
central control. So this
16:06
is what needs to be prevented and
16:08
it's going to take the citizens and the state legislatures
16:11
to help us do it. If you go to Saliri,
16:13
I have an article called, I want to stop CBDCs,
16:16
what can I do? And it's a
16:18
list of great items that everybody can
16:20
do. It's the top link
16:22
in the slide you just put up. I have a great
16:24
one on how to find a great local bank.
16:27
There are wonderful local banks
16:30
and credit unions which are well-governed,
16:32
well-managed. They have a high percentage
16:35
of insured deposits. They have a strong investment
16:38
portfolio. They have a good sound
16:40
basic loan portfolio. You
16:43
can find a well-governed
16:45
bank in this environment.
16:46
You know, after the last time you came on,
16:49
so many people called in, but I went and my wife
16:51
and I, we worked to move all of our accounts into a smaller
16:53
bank here in Texas. We've been
16:55
very happy with that move.
16:58
When I try to think about this, as
17:00
I said, I'm not, you know, I think with a lot of people,
17:03
we just, it just seems so overwhelming.
17:05
But is the issue, is our governments controlling
17:08
banks or is this really that the banks are controlling
17:10
the government? Are they really, do they, are they holding
17:12
our governments hostage somehow
17:15
to get what they want? Or when you say it's
17:17
political, are these, you know,
17:20
are our leaders, you know,
17:22
working with them happily to
17:24
move in this sort of centralized control system?
17:27
That's an excellent question.
17:29
And if you look at the way our system was set
17:31
up, both in Europe and the United States, we
17:34
had the people represented by the
17:36
Congress and the bankers represented
17:39
by the central banks. So the Treasury
17:42
basically was overseen by
17:44
Congress and the New York Fed
17:46
and the Fed
17:47
essentially run by the own own
17:50
the the Fed system is 12 banks owned
17:52
by their members so private so
17:54
you had this balance of power between the bankers
17:57
and and the people's representatives. and
17:59
what is happening.
18:00
in a variety of ways, but particularly
18:02
starting in the 90s with the financial coup, the
18:05
bankers decided to lever up the governments,
18:07
put them in a debt trap, and basically take
18:09
over. And what you are now watching
18:11
is a move by the bankers into
18:14
run and control, run
18:16
and control basically the
18:19
governments. Now,
18:20
for hundreds of years, we've had something
18:22
called the central banking warfare model. And so
18:24
the power equation is you have people
18:26
who can print money out of thin air on
18:29
one side, and you have on
18:31
the other side, you have the people
18:33
who have the biggest guns. So we
18:35
still have the central banks who print money and we still
18:37
have the military and that's the power equation. But
18:40
there is no doubt if you look at sort
18:42
of the squeeze and the debt trap, that now
18:44
what's happening is they're moving forward to
18:47
basically squeeze out the people. So
18:49
you've stolen all the money and now you're
18:51
gonna squeeze out the people and change
18:53
the deal and the advantage
18:55
of getting central digital control you can
18:57
put everybody in a digital concentration camp
19:00
and they have to do what they say. So the way you're
19:02
going to inform them that you've shifted
19:04
all the money and you're changing the rules is
19:07
with complete transaction control
19:09
and they can't do anything.
19:11
If you were Janet Yellen,
19:13
and I find that we tend
19:15
to judge politicians and the issues that are
19:17
going on in officials
19:19
from our armchair quarterback
19:22
position, but these are very scary things. concerns
19:25
that you could start seeing this run on banks, collapsing
19:28
of a banking system, no one in America wants
19:30
this. Do you think, if you were in
19:32
that position, did this bank need to be
19:34
bailed out starting with the SBB, P-Bank,
19:37
the Silicon Valley? Is that how you would have handled this?
19:41
So I don't know because there's
19:43
clearly a food fight
19:45
going on over the documents and in the portfolio.
19:48
So I would want to know what's in that portfolio.
19:50
funny business was going on in that portfolio
19:52
in the deposits before I answer
19:55
that question. I have a lot of unanswered questions
19:57
about what was the relationship.
20:00
between what was happening in the Ukraine and the
20:02
money coming back through FTX and
20:04
what was going on in the pandemic and what were
20:06
some of the life sciences and biotech and that and
20:09
smart grid stuff in that portfolio. So, you
20:11
know, that's a whole nother show. But so
20:14
I don't know how they handled it. I think what Chairman
20:16
Powell was trying to do is put a corral around
20:19
the US banking system that was trading way down
20:21
against the European and Asian financial systems.
20:25
And by doing what he did with the
20:27
investment portfolios, insured deposits make
20:29
sure that our status
20:31
internationally was, and the U.S.
20:33
banking system in that case was protected. His
20:36
eye is on protecting the dollar as reserve currency,
20:39
which means if he takes those moves,
20:41
it gives him the flexibility to keep raising
20:44
interest rates, and that's what we saw him do. We
20:46
saw him bump another 25 basis
20:47
points this week. So I think
20:49
he's playing an international game.
20:52
And unfortunately, Yellen,
20:55
the problem is the reality and the official
20:57
reality, as you know, Del, have become so
20:59
far apart that no
21:02
public official like Yellen can come up with a
21:04
rational story that explains what's
21:05
really going on. So yeah,
21:08
I mean, I was surprised
21:11
at how poor her answer was.
21:14
Here's the thing, when you
21:16
are in a system which
21:19
has extraordinary
21:21
unfairness, make no mistake
21:23
about it, they have created at the top a
21:25
banking system which is above
21:27
the law and is not subject
21:30
to the laws. The BIS has
21:32
sovereign immunity and is now extending
21:34
through the systemically important banks, sovereign
21:36
immunity or the equivalent to these
21:39
banks. They are above the law, and
21:41
you have an economy that is deeply
21:43
financially dependent
21:45
on organized crime flows. Now,
21:48
I don't know if you remember my Red Button
21:50
story, but I explained in about three minutes why
21:53
most Americans have supported
21:56
living in an economy that is full of
21:58
organized crime a dirty money. and war and
22:00
everything else. The reality
22:03
is as a society we have to come clean
22:05
because you can't grow the corruption anymore without
22:07
destroying the productive. The thing to
22:10
fear is not fear what's happening with the
22:12
banks right now. The thing to fear is two things.
22:15
We have a
22:16
society that is now destroying
22:18
wealth rather than building it and it's
22:21
destroying productivity. That's
22:22
number one. And in
22:25
the process it's centralizing control
22:28
and it's moving to complete
22:30
an utter tyranny.
22:32
And you know, and this is the most
22:35
important thing, no one can build
22:37
a healthy economy without building healthy
22:39
children. And that comes back to what
22:41
you and children's health defense and
22:44
all the people who have been in the
22:46
leadership position on the pandemic know. We
22:48
cannot have a future if we
22:51
poison our children and put them in debt.
22:53
There's no future.
22:55
So this comes down to things your grandmother
22:58
understood. Are we gonna have a productive
23:00
economy or are we gonna have an oligarchy
23:03
run by the central banks and all of us are
23:05
in digital prisons? And I have
23:07
to tell you, do not fear what
23:09
these guys can do for you, because
23:12
if we refuse to comply now
23:14
and we fight for financial transaction freedom
23:16
now, we work with our state legislators
23:19
to
23:19
fight for financial transaction freedom, whatever
23:22
happens, it's better than what's gonna happen
23:24
if we go along.
23:26
I couldn't agree more. Catherine
23:29
Austin-Fist, the Solari Report. You
23:32
know, obviously you're big on using
23:34
cash wherever we can, get into small
23:37
banks. Is there any other words
23:39
of advice for those of us that feel
23:41
like this thing is bigger? But as you and I
23:44
both know, we've watched Great Awakening
23:46
taking place. People are realizing we have the power.
23:48
We are starting to stand up for things. So,
23:51
you know, where's the hope in the future here?
23:53
So the hope is, here's the little secret
23:55
sauce in the whole game, you know, you
23:57
You destroy wealth when you centralize the
23:59
economy. me but the opportunity
24:02
if we can come up with a bottom
24:04
up building wealth economy there's
24:07
tremendous new technology makes it possible
24:09
dell to build tremendous tremendous
24:12
well if you look at all the things we've been
24:14
doing a shrink wealth tyranny is unbelievably
24:16
expensive if
24:18
we can move back to freedom the
24:20
wealth potential was absolutely incredible
24:22
there's only one other thing i want to tell you about
24:25
your
24:25
any yeah i need
24:27
a number from you and that is we just
24:29
finished having our orange hatch may
24:31
that say make cash great
24:34
again because i want to send caps
24:36
down to you and your staff so
24:38
i've had great axiom great staff i
24:40
just want to know how many hats do
24:42
i send him where do i send them all
24:44
right with you thousand hats the
24:48
ah i
24:50
played expanding i looked
24:52
like a more with the you have decided oh what
24:54
a giveaway to are not yet it is your hobby
24:56
we are here now we know understand
24:59
how
24:59
me just tell me just tell me how many
25:01
folks are your t one had to me below
25:03
into relied on has now we would love
25:05
about fifty as a perfect okay
25:07
or okay you got a little austin
25:09
bids we love you thank you for being out
25:12
there that you've were the reasoning
25:14
and the hope and joy in the beauty
25:17
ah and by the way i was just say you have
25:19
like we skype in so many people
25:21
i know who helps you with that shop you have
25:23
one of the best lucky shots of everyone can
25:26
you talk to every what about as to say here's
25:28
how you get it comes to lucky shot in the high wire wow
25:32
you know something i have i'm in
25:34
the netherlands and my dutch partners run
25:36
the studio and all the audio video and
25:38
they're fantastic
25:39
they are so i can
25:40
tell you is still larry europa
25:42
am an animal and a day or
25:45
i take care we we looked at we look forward
25:47
to the future you keep us abreast of revenues
25:49
taking place is really begging dell thank
25:51
you for everything that i arrived
25:53
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