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You know, one of the conversations that
1:13
keeps coming up is what
1:16
about the whole childhood vaccine program? I
1:18
mean, what are the details on that?
1:20
Now we have all sorts of white
1:22
papers and things on our website, but
1:24
some people just want to lay it
1:26
out very clearly. And that's
1:28
exactly what Aaron Ciri did when
1:30
he was at the
1:33
Novel Coronavirus Southwestern Intergovernmental
1:35
Committee in Arizona. Now
1:38
we played an excerpt of this during
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the Christmas holiday and it was our
1:42
number one most viewed Christmas
1:44
show of all times. There's two
1:46
parts to this testimony. The first
1:48
part was about informed consent. The
1:50
second part is all about the
1:52
childhood vaccine program. So many new
1:55
people are asking questions about the
1:57
childhood vaccine program because they watch
1:59
this. of the COVID
2:01
vaccine get made right before the eyes.
2:03
We've said it so many times, finally
2:05
people got to see how the sausage
2:07
was made. So we've decided to just
2:09
give Jeffrey Jackson the week off so
2:11
that for those of you that have
2:13
friends that are just waking up to
2:16
this idea that maybe they were lied
2:18
to about the safety of vaccines and
2:20
the efficacy, no one lays it
2:22
out better than Aaron Sittery. There's a reason
2:24
he's won all the lawsuits he has for
2:26
ICANN against the National Institute of Health, Health
2:28
and Human Services, the FDA, the
2:31
CDC, and brought back
2:33
the religious exemption in Mississippi. He's the
2:35
best of the best. And this is
2:37
him laying it out now. All
2:41
right, so state guarding vaccine
2:43
exemptions. I don't think there
2:45
should be any mandates of medical
2:47
products. I think mandates
2:50
are oppressive and illiberal. But
2:53
the way, the solution for that,
2:56
unless as long as there is a mandate, is
2:58
the ability to have an exemption. The
3:00
ability to say no. On
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the screen, you'll see a map of the United
3:06
States and on this map are the exemptions that
3:08
are available for K through 12 childhood
3:11
mandated vaccines for school. I'm gonna
3:13
focus on mandated
3:15
vaccines for school as a
3:17
foil for COVID-19
3:19
vaccine mandates, just because
3:21
it's been around a lot longer and it's easier to
3:23
talk through that lens. All right, so
3:26
let's get right into the
3:29
argument for mandating
3:31
vaccines, all right? What
3:33
is the argument that you
3:35
always hear that
3:38
they have to stop transmission? They
3:41
gotta prevent a virus or
3:43
a bacteria going from person to person. That is
3:45
the reason they say they must mandate
3:47
vaccines. And on your screen, you actually will see
3:50
all the vaccines listed that are
3:52
mandated for attending kindergarten or 12th
3:55
grade in the state of Arizona.
3:57
There are six vaccines on that list.
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And what we're going to do is we're going to
4:02
quickly go through all six of those, starting with pertussis.
4:04
We'll take a little longer than that one and the
4:06
rest of them real quick. And we'll take
4:09
a look at this question, do they
4:11
prevent transmission, right? You
4:14
know, why don't you mandate heart
4:16
medicine? Heart disease kills 700,000 Americans a
4:18
year. It's
4:20
probably the biggest burden on our healthcare
4:22
system. Why
4:24
don't we mandate statins, exercise, eating
4:27
healthy? We all intuitively understand that
4:29
that is offensive to
4:31
our basic rights or in good terms of a right. All
4:34
right. Why? Because it's about
4:36
personal protection. Well, to the extent
4:38
that a vaccine only affords personal protection, there
4:41
really is no difference. Pertussis
4:44
vaccines have been around for decades.
4:46
And for decades, there's been a
4:48
worldwide campaign to try to eradicate
4:50
pertussis from the globe. The
4:52
idea was we vaccinated everybody in the world
4:55
for pertussis. We get rid of pertussis.
4:58
Only problem was decade, decade,
5:01
another decade past, and the
5:03
amount of circulating pertussis bacteria
5:06
didn't go down. There were
5:08
sustained amounts of circulating pertussis. How do they
5:10
know? When you have
5:12
less circulating pathogen, the
5:14
inter-epidemic intervals get
5:16
longer, right?
5:19
But when you don't, they stay the same. The
5:22
pertussis vaccine can reduce symptoms, so
5:24
you have less cases of disease, but
5:27
you didn't have less circulating bacteria.
5:30
And they didn't know why. So the FDA
5:32
actually conducted this study that you see on
5:34
your screen. On this study, what the FDA
5:36
did is they took a group
5:38
of baboons because they're the most immunologically similar to
5:41
human beings, and they took a group of baboons
5:43
that had never had pertussis, okay,
5:46
took a group of baboons that got pertussis vaccine,
5:48
and they took a group of baboons that had
5:50
had pertussis. And then they exposed all
5:53
three groups to pertussis. What
5:55
did they find? Those
5:58
that had previously had Pertussis. When
6:00
they suck the swab up there know they couldn't
6:02
Called for any protests. They. Had
6:04
natural immunity as we call it, right?
6:07
They. Could be impacted but. The
6:10
Bad: foods. That.
6:12
Had never had classes and the pet foods
6:14
that had received the a solid protests that
6:16
scene. When. They start the slab of
6:19
their nose. It was able to
6:21
culture virus see the bacteria. For.
6:25
About forty days in fact, That.
6:27
Boozer were vaccinated, were shedding the
6:30
bacteria for longer. A
6:32
bit longer, Not. Sits with the
6:34
importance of number eight longer. In
6:36
an eighth of bearing. The. Know that
6:38
has ever had us. With.
6:42
That means is. And what
6:45
they found was that the baboons who are. Protesters.
6:47
Vaccinated and then infected a
6:49
real should just so the
6:51
protesters that scene. Of
6:54
actually. Reduce the symptoms
6:56
that it's that baboons were vaccinated
6:58
that. He had less symptoms
7:01
of justice. But. There were equally
7:03
as. On stage. Think
7:06
about that. Those that. Were.
7:09
Still more likely to go to where to buy booze
7:11
school? Why? They have
7:13
less symptoms. They're. Equally as
7:16
contagious. The baboons who
7:18
had never have protest is that same.
7:21
They. Had more symptoms. But.
7:23
As. The really stages the where were they are more
7:26
likely to go. The like you are
7:28
baboons. go. Not are more likely to
7:30
stay home, so who's all? I could have gone
7:32
to school. Spread sauces, With
7:34
i blew that were vaccinated. ironically. And
7:37
that the estes binding. Was.
7:40
I. Guess I. Should say
7:42
the finding was surprising. I would
7:44
say that fat people the said.
7:47
I would say it's a bit surprising
7:49
for the dead and and that's probably
7:51
the bravest thing I've I've seen. These
7:54
three are a suicide to severed if
7:56
they published their findings. That were
7:58
contrary to you As you can. Actually see
8:00
you see the blue line over there that sharp?
8:02
Those are the navy baboons with a baboon's that
8:05
has. Never. Are those
8:07
of everyone's that that head of every
8:09
previous effected never vaccinated You can see
8:11
I'm be days. They were infectious for
8:13
about thirty. right? Whereas.
8:15
The red line is the A so of tests
8:17
that seen you can see they were in Texas
8:19
for almost thirty five days. After.
8:22
right? Yeah, steam baths is it.
8:24
And then once they were exposed
8:26
practices so. As he
8:28
does, the study released the results.
8:31
More science gets done. This is
8:33
a consensus paper. Most. The
8:35
authors of this paper are actually
8:37
on a a pharmaceutical paid scientists
8:40
the major universities. Considered
8:42
world beating protest sex after they
8:44
all met and on the Farm A
8:46
diamond. Wrote. This paper. Here's what
8:48
they reach the conclusion a few years ago. They.
8:51
Said eight cellular processes that he. Cannot.
8:54
Avoid infection transmission. A seller
8:56
protesters that he's do Not.
8:59
Prevent. Colonization consequently. They.
9:01
Do Not reduce the circulation of Board of
9:03
Health practices. And Do Not exert.
9:06
Any a herd immunity effect and quote.
9:08
Now. My words. These. Are
9:11
they consider the world's leading protesters
9:13
that seen experts paid by farmers
9:15
companies? And this is our conclusion is.
9:18
Unavoidable. The science was just. Had
9:21
developed the point where they they couldn't ignore that. In.
9:24
Fact we actually sent a
9:26
are a foil requests to
9:28
the Sega adds to the
9:30
Cdc. And. We'd set them Hate And
9:32
you are. Provide. A studies
9:35
please That so. You.
9:37
Know That said, that. Protests vaccine. Only
9:40
that reduce symptoms it doesn't prevent. I says
9:42
mission those two studies I just so do.
9:45
They. Listed them back to us. Mets.
9:47
High place. And they
9:49
had no science to show contract. That
9:53
is. So. Here's something that
9:55
we did. Most. people out
9:57
there think that protesters vaccine preventable
10:00
transmission. Would everybody agree with that? Do
10:04
most people think that the
10:06
average American believes the test vaccine
10:08
prevents transmission? Do you think?
10:10
Would you agree with that? Okay. So
10:12
we thought so too. We thought
10:14
so too. We thought that most Americans
10:17
don't understand that the vaccine is
10:19
personal protection. That's
10:21
important to know. It's not preventing
10:24
you from transmitting it. It actually makes you
10:27
asymptomatic spread. It's
10:30
all good to know, especially because they tell
10:33
you, hey, your grandma or grandpa,
10:35
you don't want to spread your tusses to your baby. Well,
10:39
you know, if you're not vaccinated, you're more likely to have
10:41
symptoms of no stay away from the baby, but if you're
10:44
vaccinated, you're less likely to know. Probably
10:46
a good idea if you think that people know that
10:48
reality. So
10:50
we petitioned the FDA formally to ask
10:53
them to add on
10:55
the package insert or the
10:58
pertussis vaccine exactly that,
11:00
that it doesn't prevent infection transmission.
11:05
And what the FDA wrote back, here's what the
11:07
FDA said. They didn't deny it
11:09
doesn't solve the infection transmission. They know it doesn't. They said, no,
11:12
no, no, there's no widespread misconception about
11:14
that. People aren't confused. Yeah,
11:17
you can read it for yourself. As
11:19
I just pointed out, reducing symptoms while remaining
11:21
able to transmit makes one more
11:23
likely to transmit. And in fact, there's
11:26
even some data that indicates that inter-epidemic
11:28
intervals of pertussis have gotten a little
11:30
narrower, meaning there's even more circulating
11:32
pertussis back here and now than
11:35
there previously was. And
11:37
this is a study that talks about the
11:39
inter-epidemic intervals not changing and maybe even getting
11:41
narrower. You can read it right there.
11:43
It's a more high impact journal,
11:46
peer reviewed science. So those
11:49
that get the pertussis vaccine will have
11:51
reduced symptoms potentially, but
11:55
the deep blue is likely to transmit. So
11:57
they're more likely to keep going to school,
11:59
pretend We spread the virus. right?
12:03
Altered Second edition. Case
12:06
called linked up with Hope Suppression. What?
12:08
This means. He's. Fallen. And
12:12
this is again not not me saying it's with herpes
12:14
virus or. Anybody
12:17
that gets for practices vaccine. The
12:19
pertussis vaccine give them a good. Fun!
12:23
Part. Of the approximately three
12:25
thousand incidence of the protest factor.
12:28
That point. Five. That
12:30
Munich. M. Fritz.
12:33
Under these. Such. That.
12:36
The. Next hundred, they're exposed. To
12:39
the pretences: bacteria itself. Their.
12:41
Body doesn't then developed robust, been.
12:44
Together. Since I've tried to prevent five and.
12:48
They're. Fine every time they're exposed
12:50
the protests bacteria. Only.
12:53
Has a robust immune response.
12:55
Those five antigens. That's
12:57
it. We know that because it's a. Pity
13:00
survive such thing Other antibody
13:02
response. When. They're effect later and they
13:04
found that. Peace. And a pilot
13:06
says. It's about what that
13:08
means. With. That means.
13:11
Is that? They. Can
13:13
be infected. Over
13:16
and over. And
13:18
over. Cause. They.
13:20
Never developed a proper immune
13:22
response. Is tasks
13:24
such a charity Sea Lanes of
13:26
Sported you know and works in
13:28
this area. One of the
13:31
suggestions was, or what have we create
13:33
a vaccine that's for the to the
13:35
other two thousand, ninety five, as it
13:37
is for? This,
13:39
the fact that he's out there
13:42
isn't that spot that fits. I
13:44
hope that has never gotten the
13:46
vaccine gets. in fact, the once
13:48
has muji for years. Know this
13:50
isn't a goddess safe. The
13:53
child that gets this that scene and
13:55
has this immunity inference on that. One.
14:00
The. First time to get infected. They
14:02
have less symptoms, don't notice they are.
14:05
Here to think. That. Infection doesn't
14:08
and in fixing their views. That
14:11
affects the didn't said the fact that they
14:13
still. Only get. A
14:15
robust The Responses: five incidents
14:18
which. Apparently doesn't does
14:20
a job at system such as
14:22
this. So they can
14:24
get her back and then they can get affected.
14:26
Didn't get month later and a month later over
14:28
and over death. That is what
14:31
might have been so suppression. Does.
14:34
Very bad. Because. Of
14:36
my depth of suppression, all children who
14:38
are primed by the topic seems will
14:40
be more susceptible. To
14:42
protesters throughout their lifetime. And there's
14:44
no easy way to decrease this
14:47
increase lifetime sensibility. And now you
14:49
understand why that as a boy.
14:52
So. To a
14:54
school children vaccinated for justice and school.
14:57
Are. They more isn't the whole idea I
15:00
thought. To. Make sure we
15:02
have. Vaccinate. And we
15:04
have to school kids. I don't get to
15:06
that scene because they they claim that molested
15:08
spread. Now we know. Now
15:10
the sciences decision that the vaccinated
15:13
kids are more like with spread.
15:16
Protesters. And school. Five.
15:18
Of Us census the of note the spreading.
15:21
To excluded from school. Horsnell.
15:25
Course we don't. Course
15:28
it on from them for school. Because.
15:30
The whole idea. Is
15:33
that? Take my people's rights.
15:36
Is. Always the more dangerous thing
15:38
to do. Throughout. The long are
15:40
to history. It has always been. Take
15:42
away people's rights as resulted in more
15:45
harm. To Humanity.
15:47
Than. Any virus or pathogen, or
15:50
any intervention, Of any kind.
15:52
We. Don't do that. We don't take
15:54
away people's rights. Certainly don't school children.
15:57
From. School. Ironically, anything or.
16:00
Anybody wants to read the slater immunity
16:02
provided by the pertussis vaccine? To.
16:05
Reducing symptoms, Wayne's only within a a
16:07
number of years. After
16:09
five doses, it's P. Two
16:11
months of age of five months days and then a
16:14
t det supt so six don't. Have.
16:16
To two to four years according to this
16:18
is in the Cdc website. it's only thirty
16:20
four percent effective, reduce the symptoms and after
16:22
that it. Quickly. Drops the a point
16:25
nine percent at just reduced Sims of. Selecting.
16:27
Doesn't even last long. Recent census. That's.
16:30
Protest suspects So but the envoy
16:32
move on both parts Us: I
16:35
want to get this quote in
16:37
that meeting minutes. Jama Twenty sixteen
16:39
First author is sad. Key and
16:42
colleagues looked at all the Us
16:44
pertussis outbreaks after a january of
16:46
two thousand. So in the modern
16:49
era, sixty five to seventy six
16:51
percent of everybody who got pertussis
16:53
in the United States. Was.
16:56
Fully or partially vaccinated against
16:58
protests. So. If you
17:00
wanted clear proof. Is
17:02
clear that Pertussis vaccine does
17:04
not eliminate protesters. And
17:07
it's clear is very possible to fully
17:09
get the infection and get sex. And
17:11
be fully vaccinated. Saw. The
17:14
point is. As errands gonna
17:16
point out, none of these vaccines are
17:18
perfect. My I'll have do is do an
17:20
outbreak analysis and see you took the shot. At
17:23
and support another point on that. From.
17:26
A legal perspective. The whole
17:28
argument. For. Throwing excluding
17:30
children for school from
17:33
gamestop. Is. Because you need
17:35
to prevent transmission. But. If
17:37
the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission,
17:39
entire underpinning. For. This
17:41
illiberal rights crushing mandate. Side
17:45
even their reality. right?
17:47
So. The. Basis. For.
17:50
Excluding children Protests. It
17:52
is no different than schooling a child for school
17:54
for. Not. Doing anything
17:56
else, You. Think
17:58
that eating healthier is good. right? You aren't
18:00
You want you? taking a asthma inhaler
18:02
is the things important for particular child.
18:05
Wonderful. Made. You want to cause it
18:07
made you want encourage people to take that Us
18:09
That seems because a camera descendants. But.
18:11
His personal protection at best. And a
18:13
fact. It. Might even be undercutting your
18:15
objective by setting presents a since my
18:18
children at school. So. The that
18:20
The point is that the. Underpinning.
18:22
Argument. We. Saw the same
18:24
thing with polio vaccine. Cover.
18:26
Vaccines. They said it'll stop transmission initially, just
18:28
like protests. That's it. And. Then
18:31
after a while. It was accelerated
18:33
cause it's so much sides and attention to it.
18:35
Then. They quickly started realizing know it
18:37
doesn't have to purchase and. And
18:40
get out. The consensus is now that
18:42
it's dozens. Ah, but it took
18:44
I took a while protests have a lot longer
18:47
figure that out. Oh, vaccine
18:49
blocked worker nonetheless, they they'd
18:51
still tries mandated. By
18:53
slapping the label that seems on and somehow he
18:56
gives the right the things that you sacred rites
18:58
of move on next is up to thirty. A
19:00
vaccine will go through the rest them a lot
19:02
quicker said I do protests as a little bit
19:05
more in depth but I'll do the rest lot
19:07
quicker. Or this is a Cdc
19:09
study has just read you what they
19:11
found out when truth is regional to
19:13
them. quote to theory it's hot so
19:16
it helps prevent suspense is symptomatic disease.
19:18
But. Does not prevent the terrorists eight or
19:20
stop the spread of infection. The no reports
19:22
of the Karen spread Syria and it's met
19:24
them as a failure. Fatso to prevent terrorists
19:27
eight letters glued but because of her movies
19:29
not applicable to rest of the theory. And
19:31
you know why? That is because it's
19:33
a theory. A vaccine doesn't include any
19:36
actual antigens of the theory bacteria. It
19:38
only includes antigens. From. The
19:40
it only includes excuse me he talks
19:42
and sometimes relief by the bacteria. That's
19:44
all that's in the vaccines. It's hot
19:47
so that seats so there's nothing in
19:49
the vaccine that actually gives you any
19:51
immunity to the back diphtheria bacteria itself.
19:54
just a toxin is sometimes release so obviously
19:56
you're infected by the theory of bacteria it
19:59
so going to and
20:01
so forth, there's nothing in the vaccine
20:03
that prevents that. And the theory also
20:05
has a complicated history, won't go into now.
20:07
But the point is, does it prevent infection
20:09
transmission according to the CDC authors
20:12
in this study, tetanus. Tetanus,
20:14
this is again the CDC last I
20:16
checked, not an anti-vaccine organization. And look
20:18
what they wrote, does not spread from
20:20
person to person. You can't
20:23
spread tetanus from one person to another.
20:25
Again, is there a reason to exclude
20:27
a child from school? Not
20:29
having tetanus vaccine to order
20:31
to prevent spread? No. Another thing about
20:33
tetanus and diphtheria, by the way, this
20:36
is the adult vaccine schedule. The immunity
20:38
wanes so rapidly, the adult vaccine
20:40
schedule provides you need to get it every
20:42
10 years. Next slide. And
20:45
by the way, most adults in that
20:47
study, a big
20:49
percent of adults don't get that every 10-year
20:51
shot. But
20:54
in any event. Next slide, please. Polio,
20:56
if I could just make one editorial comment as a
20:59
doctor. Pertussis and
21:01
diphtheria, we treat with
21:03
azithromycin, Z-PEC. How many
21:05
of you have taken a Z-PEC? You've already covered
21:08
the infection, right? We
21:10
clean deep tissue wounds and we give
21:12
antibiotics in the emergency room. When someone
21:15
gets a tetanus shot in the emergency
21:17
room, it's not protecting them
21:19
from infection from the cut they
21:21
just had, it's protection from a future
21:23
cut. Most people don't think that. They think
21:25
that actually they're getting something that's going to
21:28
help them right now. So
21:30
none of these bacterial vaccines,
21:32
diphtheria, pertussis, and
21:36
tetanus are
21:39
ones where we couldn't treat anyway.
21:42
The same is true for a homophilus influenza B. So
21:45
the point is if one takes one of
21:47
these vaccines, it's only for their own personal
21:50
concern and risk and not for the risk
21:52
of anyone else. Again,
21:54
no reason to exclude anybody from school
21:56
for refusing it. You want
21:58
to get them? Great. But don't
22:01
crush people's rights for it. Polio vaccine. The
22:03
only polio vaccine used in the United States
22:05
since the year 2000 is an
22:08
inactivated polio vaccine. It's injected into
22:10
the arm. Polio,
22:12
and what it does is it'll create
22:14
some immunity in your blood system, systemic
22:16
immunity. What it doesn't do is create
22:18
immunity in your
22:20
mucosal surfaces, in
22:22
your intestinal tract, which is where polio
22:25
proliferates. Polio is equal
22:27
to oral contamination. So
22:30
the vaccine is intended
22:33
to create immunity in your blood to
22:35
maybe prevent the polio virus from going
22:37
from your intestinal tract into
22:39
your blood and getting to your spinal column. But what it
22:42
doesn't do, what it cannot do, is
22:44
it doesn't create any immunity in your
22:46
intestinal tract, IgA antibodies versus the IgG
22:49
antibodies in your blood that actually
22:51
neutralize the virus in your intestinal tract. You
22:54
still, if you are infected with polio
22:56
virus and you've been vaccinated with an
22:58
inactivated polio vaccine, you
23:01
are just as likely to shed just as much
23:03
polio virus as if you were not vaccinated. Go
23:06
back one slide, please, and zoom in on the
23:08
text. This is
23:10
the CDC's own words. IPV protects
23:12
people against all three types of polio virus.
23:15
IPV does not contain live virus and
23:17
cannot cause disease. It,
23:20
thank you, protects you from polio disease, and here
23:22
it is, but does not
23:24
stop transmission of the
23:26
virus. CDC's own
23:28
words. Can I, as a show of
23:31
hands in the audience, how many people knew that? A
23:35
couple, I did not, so.
23:38
This is the Global Eradication
23:41
Initiative. This is WHO, CDC,
23:43
Rotary, UNICEF, and
23:47
the world's leading health authority, the Bill Mellon Gates
23:49
Foundation initiative,
23:53
and they explain it right here. IPV
23:55
induces very low levels of immunity and tests
23:57
it as a result when a person immunizes
23:59
IP. The virus
24:02
can still multiply inside the intestines and be shed in
24:04
the feces risk and continued circulation. I PV does not.
24:06
Stop transmission of the virus know that's surprising to a lot
24:09
of people. People don't believe it unless they
24:11
actually see the CDC says it. Well,
24:15
now, for those out there who. You
24:17
know, the Oracle has said it the CDC has said
24:19
it. It doesn't stop
24:21
transmission. I'm not saying don't get the vaccine. You
24:25
want to get the vaccines America free country, but
24:27
there's no policy reason to exclude children from
24:30
school. We're not getting it. Just punitive. Next
24:34
slide please. The ninja
24:37
cockle vaccines now on the 4th
24:40
vaccine required for school in Arizona. And by the way,
24:42
these 6 vaccines are typically the same 6 vaccines required
24:44
for K through 12 in almost every state in the country. Differs
24:48
by 1 or 2. This
24:51
again is the CDC. It
24:53
says the rates of the ninja cockle disease
24:55
of the client United States since the 1990s. And
24:58
remain low today. Much of the client occurred before
25:00
the routine use of meningococcal vaccine.
25:04
Data suggests the ninja cockles
25:06
have provided protection to those vaccinated. But
25:08
probably not to the larger unvaccinated community
25:10
population or herd immunity and quote. So
25:14
that's the
25:16
CDC also explaining
25:18
this vaccine is not it's it's it's maybe
25:21
personal protection, but it's not community protection by
25:23
the way. The number of people that died
25:25
from an inch a cockle is so low every
25:27
year under 100. They estimate it somewhere on the 100. They
25:29
don't know. And because the incidence is so incredibly low, the
25:31
clinical trial couldn't actually. Do
25:35
a comparison of how effective
25:37
it is at preventing meningococcal
25:40
in the real world. Because they would need
25:42
to have had 10 million people in the trial. So they
25:44
just did some serological information. They assume it works. They
25:46
don't know any event. The
25:52
point that this is that it's not it
25:54
doesn't it's not providing community protection. Again,
26:00
there's no reason to exclude a child for not having this.
26:03
Oh, oh, and by the way, again,
26:05
the CDC protection from an intercalc vaccination wanes
26:07
in most of the lessons within five years.
26:11
Okay. School's usually longer
26:13
than five years. And so, you know, hepatitis
26:16
B vaccine. So now we're
26:18
now, excuse me, now on the fourth vaccine.
26:20
Now the hepatitis B vaccine, hepatitis B is
26:23
transmitted. Blood blood
26:25
contamination. Okay. It's
26:28
very, it would be very, very hard
26:30
sitting in a classroom for
26:32
one student to give hepatitis B to another. It's
26:35
actually almost very difficult to imagine. Like I
26:37
explained earlier in the day, hepatitis
26:40
B typically transmits through intravenous
26:42
drug sharing, dirty needle sharing,
26:44
or really permits sexual intercourse.
26:46
Those are the typical ways that adolescents,
26:50
school-aged children would potentially get it. We,
26:53
in fact, FOIA sent the FOIA request,
26:55
the Freedom of Information request to the
26:57
CDC, and we asked them,
26:59
quote, for documents sufficient
27:02
to reflect any cases
27:05
of transmission of hepatitis B in an elementary,
27:07
middle, or high school setting. What
27:09
was the CDC's response? A
27:11
search of our records failed to reveal any documents
27:14
pertaining to your request. They didn't have
27:16
a single instance of hepatitis
27:18
B being transmitted in a classroom setting.
27:22
That they were able to provide. And in
27:24
fact, the official guidance is even in healthcare
27:26
school settings where you are in contact with
27:28
people that are hepatitis B positive, you
27:31
know, with needles and so forth. Students
27:33
that have hepatitis B shouldn't be excluded
27:35
from being able to work with those,
27:37
you know, patients so forth. In any
27:39
event, let's put all that aside. The
27:41
point is, in a school setting, hepatitis
27:43
B is not a risk. And
27:45
so excluding children who do not get hepatitis
27:47
B vaccine, who are hepatitis B negative, by
27:50
the way, makes no
27:52
sense. Chickenpox
27:55
vaccine, we have finally arrived, finally,
27:59
at a vaccine. vaccine that
28:01
can't prevent effective
28:03
transmission to some degree in a school
28:05
setting and period. Okay?
28:09
Chickenpox vaccine can is a live
28:11
attenuated vaccine, meaning you actually are
28:13
getting chickenpox. You're just getting
28:15
a version of
28:17
it that's in passage through the culture
28:19
cell line of a board of fetuses numerous
28:22
times to render it into kind of a
28:24
different form and then so
28:26
it replicates in your body when it's injected into you. Let's
28:29
call it tens of thousands of times versus millions
28:31
of times. Okay. And it's a Frankenstein
28:33
version of it, having gone through the
28:37
culture cell line of a board of fetuses and
28:40
so forth. In any event, here's the thing
28:42
about chickenpox vaccine. According
28:44
to the manufacturer's package insert and
28:46
the, as approved by the FDA,
28:49
transmission, quote, transmission of varicella
28:52
vaccine virus resulting in varicella
28:54
infection, including disseminated disease may
28:57
occur between vaccinated recipients
28:59
who develop or do not develop
29:01
a varicella like rash and
29:04
contact susceptible to varicella,
29:06
including healthy as well as high risk
29:08
individuals. What they're saying is that those
29:11
who get this vaccine can
29:13
give chickenpox, transmit the virus to others, and
29:16
they explained that it can do so for
29:18
up to six weeks after vaccination. Due
29:20
to the concern for transmission of
29:22
vaccine virus, vaccine recipients should attempt
29:25
to avoid whenever possible close association
29:27
with susceptible high risk individual for
29:29
up to six weeks following vaccination
29:31
of varipax. Do we
29:33
exclude children from
29:35
school after they get the chickenpox vaccine in
29:38
Arizona or in any other state? No. No,
29:41
they don't. And that is very reflective of
29:43
the fact that there's
29:46
not really a concern about
29:48
transmitting chickenpox in school. There
29:51
were high risk individuals. If you were,
29:54
you would exclude those
29:56
children during those six weeks. The reality is you
29:58
don't. One they
30:00
tighter practice those high risk of the
30:02
tiger pregnant women foreign see the chickenpox
30:04
they now. To. If
30:07
somebody is susceptible to farm. From.
30:10
Sigma Pox Virus. That.
30:12
Means except for the harm from the other
30:14
over fourteen hundred known pathogens. They're. Not
30:16
in school. This idea of
30:18
a child. Who. Susceptible Harper
30:21
chickenpox, but not susceptible to
30:23
harm. Than. The fourteen has to other
30:25
known. Viruses. Is
30:27
a fix. The. People people who are
30:29
can be harm a chicken pox. Virus
30:32
or older adults. That.
30:34
Have never had chickenpox, never had the vaccine.
30:36
So the question on the table for the
30:38
status. Is a chicken pox
30:40
vaccine or. Prior. Chicken Pox
30:43
status is that mandated and
30:45
assess the teachers. Who.
30:49
The pleasure. Say.
30:53
Let's. Put it this way for policy perspective.
30:55
I'm Sandra Thomson. From a
30:57
policy perspective. If. You're not excluding
30:59
children after they get to shop for the six
31:01
weeks he should be school children. Don't get the
31:03
shot. Up the point as
31:05
you can actually be putting people at risk
31:08
with the shot. I understand. Get your you
31:10
see what I mean? These are examples where
31:12
states need to have. Doctors
31:15
who are knowledgeable and
31:17
and have the intellectual
31:19
range of experience. And
31:22
knowledge to ask important questions. You.
31:25
Know this is the purpose. Of having
31:27
a state Attorney General are having
31:29
a Health and Human Services committee
31:31
with advisory committees people how to
31:33
be asking reasonable questions I just
31:35
for I thought I thought were
31:37
supposed to just say safe and
31:39
effective as as stop there but
31:41
but honestly the purpose was air
31:43
getting to is what's the purpose
31:45
of having public policy around mass
31:47
vaccination than actually excluding kids from
31:50
schools at what have you It
31:52
is? It's not thought through correctly.
31:54
I've only seen serious chickenpox in
31:56
my. Career earlier it was
31:58
chickenpox. the mode yet But it's exclusively
32:00
in older adults. That's
32:03
the risk. And
32:05
ironically, the chickenpox program has
32:07
created a situation where older
32:09
folks are potentially more likely to get
32:11
chickenpox because the vaccine immunity actually wanes
32:14
more readily, making them more susceptible,
32:17
which causes, you know, maybe
32:19
this is not the forum for it, but, right,
32:21
the chickenpox virus is dorming in your nerves and
32:23
then is more likely to reemerge if you don't
32:25
have enough immunity, reemerging of shingles, which
32:29
is increasing society. Okay.
32:31
But from a policy perspective, in terms
32:33
of protecting exceptions, it makes no
32:36
sense to exclude children with no chickenpox if we don't
32:38
have the vaccine. If you're not actually in those, get
32:40
the vaccine, at least for those six weeks. Okay.
32:44
So let's just do a quick recap. All
32:46
right. Detach. And on the measles,
32:48
mumps, and rubella vaccine, because
32:51
of the time limitations, if anybody wants to
32:53
see the arguments and discussion about that, they
32:55
can watch, I guess, what was discussed earlier
32:57
today. Again, if you haven't had enough watching
33:00
me present. So here they
33:02
are. Here are the six vaccines required for
33:04
K-12 in Arizona, similar to most of your
33:07
states. DTaP and active hypolium and meningococcal. They
33:10
don't prevent infection and transmission according to the
33:12
CDC and FDA's own studies and data. There's
33:14
no policy or reason for excluding these
33:16
people, these children from school, people from work,
33:18
and so forth for not getting themselves. Hepatitis
33:21
B doesn't transmit in the school setting.
33:23
The varicella vaccine transmits for six weeks after
33:26
the shot that you don't exclude those
33:28
children canary in the coal mine.
33:30
That's really what's going on here. It's not
33:32
really about the quote unquote protection.
33:34
It's about a policy, as we saw
33:36
in the military. Okay. So policy,
33:38
not about science. MMR
33:41
vaccine, when you really
33:43
look closely at the data, it is
33:45
not the end of the world that everybody
33:48
makes it out to be. And in fact,
33:50
there's a lot of good reason to think
33:52
that it causes more harm than good based
33:55
on the dispassion or view of available data.
33:57
So the
33:59
entire. Their underpinning for
34:02
mandates to begin with is to prevent
34:04
transmission to increase the overall health.
34:06
There's a lot of questions about whether it
34:09
does either of those for every one of
34:11
the six mandated vaccines. That
34:13
said, we live
34:15
in a world where they're mandated. So how
34:17
does one exclude themselves from
34:19
having to take these products if they want to?
34:22
Well, there are two available
34:25
exemptions currently. Well,
34:27
in Arizona and the
34:30
third one, there's three
34:32
available exemptions in Arizona. There's
34:34
philosophical, religious and a
34:36
medical exemption. I'm going to go through a philosophical exemption
34:38
that speaks for itself. You
34:40
don't like it, you have philosophical objection, you say no.
34:44
Religious exemptions. Let's go through that very
34:46
briefly. Next slide please.
34:48
What was the First Amendment religious freedom
34:51
intended to protect? I think
34:53
there's a little bit of a misunderstanding about what
34:55
religious freedom really means. People say,
34:57
well, I don't go to church on Sunday, you know. So
35:00
I don't have a religious reason or my organized
35:02
religion doesn't have
35:05
any objections to vaccines. That's not what
35:08
the First Amendment was intended to protect. When
35:10
the First Amendment was ratified by the
35:13
states in 1791, you
35:15
have to think back to what life was like back
35:17
then. That
35:20
wasn't something you did on Sunday. People
35:23
didn't separate the secular from religious in the
35:26
way we do today. People
35:29
lived their convictions in many ways. When
35:31
they talked about being able to
35:34
have freedom of expression
35:36
as the way it's described in the
35:38
Constitution, right, free exercise
35:40
pause, you were able
35:42
to live your convictions. And those
35:44
weren't something you did part of the
35:46
week. It is a way of
35:49
it is following the convictions of
35:51
your heart and mind to be able
35:54
to live your life. And
35:57
so when somebody thinks about it, they're like, oh,
35:59
I'm going to do this. about, well, I don't have a
36:01
religious belief. Well,
36:04
it's a lot broader than that. Even if
36:06
the organized religion you associate with doesn't
36:09
have an issue or an objection to the
36:11
aborted fetal tissue or so forth with vaccines,
36:14
but you do, the
36:17
First Amendment recognizes that. Right. In fact,
36:20
it would violate the establishment clause if
36:23
a religious exemption was limited
36:25
to organized religion. Many courts have held that.
36:28
And in fact, you know, there are only six states
36:30
in America up until recently that had only
36:33
a medical exemption to 10 school. There's now
36:35
five because, you know, we've had a
36:37
case that we brought in Mississippi where
36:39
the judge ordered that because
36:42
there was a secular exemption, medical,
36:47
and the state was able to accommodate for
36:49
a secular reason, they also had to accommodate
36:51
for religious reason. Obviously, we're very
36:53
happy with that ruling, and we intend to
36:55
bring that. I can't support us to
36:57
bring that same lawsuit in all the other five states
36:59
that don't have any exemption
37:02
of the medical exemption to 10 school, which
37:04
is Cali, New York, Connecticut,
37:07
Maine, and West Virginia. This will
37:09
be the one video I show. So
37:13
this might give you a little bit of insight
37:15
into why some people might have a religious objection
37:17
to vaccination. In your
37:19
work related to vaccines, how
37:21
many fetuses have been part of that work? My
37:25
own personal work, too. I'm
37:28
going to hand you with the Mark plaintiffs, he did it
37:30
41. Okay. Are
37:37
you familiar with this article, Dr. Bergen?
37:49
Yes. Okay. Are you
37:51
listed as an author on this article? Yes. This
37:56
study took place
37:58
at the Wistar Institute. starts
38:03
to correct? Yes. How many fetuses were
38:08
used in the study described in this article? Quite
38:10
a few. So this study
38:15
involved 74 fetuses correct? I
38:19
don't remember exactly how many. To
38:21
turn to page 12 of the study. 76. 76. And these
38:23
fetuses were all three months or older when
38:25
aborted correct? Yes.
38:29
And these were all normally
38:31
developed fetuses correct? Yes. What
38:33
organs did you
38:35
harvest from these fetuses? Well
38:37
I didn't personally harvest any but a whole
38:39
range of fetuses. So
38:41
I was able to harvest them.
38:44
So I was able to harvest them. So I
38:46
was able to
38:48
harvest any but a
38:50
whole range of tissues
38:53
were harvested by co-workers. And these pieces
38:59
were then cut up into little pieces right?
39:01
Yes. And they were cultured?
39:04
Yes. Some of the
39:08
pieces of the fetuses
39:10
were pituitary gland that were chopped
39:12
up into pieces. Okay. Included
39:16
the lung of the fetuses? Yes.
39:18
Okay. Included the skin? Yes. Kidney?
39:20
Yes. Spleen? Yes.
39:23
Heart? Yes. And tongue? I don't recall but probably
39:25
yes. So I just
39:27
want to make sure
39:30
I understand. In your entire career, and this was just
39:32
one study. So I'm going
39:35
to ask you again.
39:38
In your entire career how many
39:41
fetuses have you worked with? Well I don't
39:43
remember the exact number but quite a few
39:46
when we were studying them originally before we
39:50
decided to use them to make vaccines. So I'm going to ask you again.
39:53
In your entire Career,:
39:56
how many fetuses have you worked with? I don't
39:58
know. I don't know. I don't know. Have
40:03
any sense. I in this one study had
40:05
seventy six. how many other studies as you
40:07
how that used aborted fetuses are wide. I
40:09
don't remember how many young your where. Are
40:12
you aware that the one of the. Objections:
40:15
Vaccination by The. Plaintiff.
40:18
In this case, The
40:20
inclusion of aborted fetal. Tissue.
40:23
In the development of vaccines and
40:25
the fact that it's actually part
40:27
of ingredients are that seems health
40:30
I'm aware of those objections. The
40:32
Young Are Catholic Church is actually
40:34
issue the documents on that with
40:36
says that individuals who need the
40:39
vaccines had received the vaccines regardless
40:41
of the fact and that are
40:43
that are I am. I think
40:46
it implies that I am the
40:48
individual who will go to hell
40:50
because of the use of aborted.
40:53
Tissues with shiny and blow to do.
40:56
You know if the mothers catholic
40:59
I have no idea against do
41:01
take issue with religious beliefs Yes.
41:05
You've said that quote vaccination is always
41:07
under attack by religious zealots who believe
41:09
that the will of God includes death
41:11
and disease. Guess he stand by that
41:13
statement. I absolutely do pay. Are you
41:15
an atheist? Guess. I sort
41:18
should understand that when they talk
41:20
about taking seventy six completely normally
41:22
developing fetuses. And. They
41:24
have to take them out and they take pretty much
41:27
every single organ. A trotman to
41:29
three centimeter cues and make correct, try to
41:31
culture and see which one is the best
41:33
medium to grow vaccine virus. Those.
41:36
Hands have to be alive. You
41:39
can't culture. And dead
41:41
cells. So. When those
41:43
organs are coming out of those babies, They.
41:46
Must remain. The.
41:48
Cells all. Must.
41:51
Be alive. The tongue. A.
41:53
Heart. Liver. Lungs.
41:56
Everything in our baby was alive. Thousand
42:00
and after mean that way. And what they
42:02
do is they take them and they. See. Which
42:04
is gonna be the grass mediums
42:06
ground because viruses only multiply and.
42:09
Celts, And allied cells.
42:12
So. For example, the Chicken Pox virus
42:14
vaccine. To. Make the
42:16
virus that goes into the vial
42:18
they grow the vaccine pox virus
42:20
on culture cell line aborted fetal
42:22
tissue. There. Are literally.
42:25
In every vile of chickenpox vaccine this
42:27
inject into every child in every bottle.
42:30
There are billions, not millions, billions
42:32
of pieces. A saloon
42:34
debris and Dna. From
42:36
an aborted fetal cell line in
42:39
every single shot. Because. Part.
42:41
Of the manufacturing process. can't remove the
42:43
virus to super super tiny. From
42:46
the So was stuff straight that they're grown up.
42:49
And I'll make one other point about. With.
42:51
Religious conviction there really goes back to the
42:53
military and and the army. Members.
42:56
Are military? Swear an oath? To
42:58
lay down their lives, to defend the
43:00
constitution, And the very first.
43:04
Very first freedom. Under.
43:06
The Bill Of Rights and Constitution is. Freedom.
43:08
Of free access. To leave
43:11
your convictions. And yet the
43:13
members of our military who sought a religious exempt
43:15
from the coven I T vaccine. Were.
43:17
Being denied it. And wrote this.
43:19
As many of you know, we brought a lawsuit
43:21
against the Airforce that got a class or to
43:23
jump to preventing them. Air Force and
43:25
kicking out over ten thousand. Members of the
43:27
Air Force and brought one gets the army. And.
43:31
It really goes back to what was being
43:33
discussed earlier that. It's a
43:36
really is really ah I'm.
43:38
Failure of leadership. That those
43:41
who are running the military can't you
43:43
recognize that? The. Very freedom. Their
43:45
fi asking their soldiers to fight for
43:47
die for employees for they're not even
43:49
honoring for their own soldiers and I
43:52
could see how that would be very
43:54
very destructive to morale. certain in our
43:56
clients we understand that. Okay, Once.
43:58
A year up here. buddy. Even Planes
44:00
of Leaving Chainsaws Blue denies that, but
44:02
they believe in vaccines. You hear that
44:05
all day long and it's a very
44:07
big truism. Really is almost. I. An
44:09
ideology. You. Know and you Also,
44:11
you're all the time. Vaccines. Are
44:14
the only thing that can save us from the pandemic.
44:16
So. That kind of language reserve for
44:18
religion. right? If
44:21
somebody says you the only thing that will save you. Is
44:24
this product? What do you actually typically think
44:26
was going That's gonna save you. Might.
44:29
Think something else, not as seems less thought.
44:32
Hey. Nobody. Should be coerced to
44:35
abandon their police for the police a quote unquote,
44:37
health authorities and a lot of what you hear
44:39
about vaccines. His. Dog Police next.
44:42
Medical. Exemptions. That's.
44:44
The other type presents is available. My sides
44:47
lose. Medical. Exemptions like all medicine
44:49
should be based on clinical judgment. You go
44:51
to a doctor. They know you. They know
44:53
everything about you. They said they're like care
44:55
for you. They should be able to make
44:57
a decision that you should or should not
44:59
receive. This medicine put on My virtually every
45:01
other area of medicine will rely on the
45:03
clinical judgment of doctors to treat patients that
45:06
size. Of vaccines that is taken away
45:08
in her some every state. Where
45:10
it has a mandate, the mandate the
45:12
medical exemption is not based on clinical
45:14
judgment is based on a predetermine list
45:16
me by the government. Over
45:18
at the Cdc call the Cdc contra de
45:20
case of causes us. And. In fact,
45:22
knowledge they have a list. Of
45:24
things that they say, you can get
45:26
an exemption medical center for which is
45:28
extraordinary. Barrel typically requires you to have
45:30
been injured by the same vaccine before.
45:32
okay. But as they have
45:35
a longer list of all the things they say, Pardon.
45:37
That definitely Not. Contraindications of precautions
45:40
including a you put the example there
45:42
You can review it later for details.
45:45
You. Know, for example, it provides that essentially.
45:48
A book Peronist two children. One of them gets
45:50
a detail vaccine and die from it. That's
45:53
not good enough for an exemption for their other
45:55
top. Next lot. Of
45:59
on I. That is
46:01
why we are promoting a bill that
46:03
is intended to take
46:05
medical exemptions and convert it out
46:08
of being something that is rote and putting
46:10
it back in the hands of doctors so that
46:13
it does come down to clinical
46:15
judgment of the doctor. It should be left between
46:17
the doctor and their patient of whether
46:20
or not the medical exemption
46:22
should be valid, not left up to
46:24
some bureaucrats. Next slide.
46:27
This is something I call an informed consent
46:29
exemption. It doesn't exist anywhere in America. There
46:32
is no such thing as an informed consent
46:34
exemption to mandates, but it
46:36
is something that I think should exist. So I'm going
46:38
to quickly go over it. A lot of people say,
46:40
well, I don't have any convictions against vaccines. I
46:43
don't have any medical reason for it. And
46:45
if some of you may know the Seinfeld reference, you
46:48
know, what about the rest of us, right? What
46:51
about those of us who are subject to
46:53
mandate, have no medical reason not to vaccinate,
46:55
no conviction or religious reason not
46:58
to vaccinate, and those are the only exemptions
47:00
available. What about the fact that we
47:02
don't like that we can't see
47:04
the manufacturer, we don't like to clean up the
47:06
file, we don't like some of the basic facts,
47:08
right? We're parents, we want to safeguard our children. And
47:11
so this is a bill we've been working on, and you
47:13
can see some of the states that actually it's been proposed,
47:15
and it's not been tasked anywhere yet, and
47:17
we're working on having it proposed. It's
47:20
called an act to increase vaccine competence.
47:23
And the reason that this bill should increase
47:25
vaccine competence is that what it provides is
47:27
that there should always
47:29
be an exemption available to
47:31
any mandate if there
47:34
isn't a vaccine that meets certain very minimal
47:36
criteria. This way,
47:38
the elected representatives in every
47:40
state can assure their constituents, look,
47:44
we're putting our money where our mouth is. Don't
47:48
worry. Every vaccine that you're mandated to get, you'll
47:51
never, never be in a position
47:53
where you can't say no. Okay, you'll
47:55
always be able to say no, if there isn't
47:58
a vaccine That doesn't meet. For
48:00
minimum requirements are just read you the
48:02
title and act to increase their and
48:04
confidence. The. Purposes of ushers the
48:06
public that an exemption exist for require
48:08
vaccines that should not be certain minimum
48:11
requirements. The justification that adding this exemption
48:13
will increase confidence Mandated vaccines and the
48:15
text provides that notwithstanding any of the
48:17
law. A person who is required
48:20
to receive vaccine for any purpose may claim
48:22
an from the vaccine or com if there's
48:24
not a vaccine approved by the Us. The
48:26
A to fulfill the requirements of meets the
48:29
following criteria for simple criteria One. Six.
48:31
Per could fall yes there were lot of
48:34
parts of we the vaccine evaluated say he
48:36
probably is one year after was administered against
48:38
the control group that only receive either a
48:40
placebo. For. Another vaccine licenses
48:43
providers. Paragraph many the other vaccines
48:45
license. One. Your seats view as
48:47
possible to drop. Basic.
48:50
I. And. The To. The
48:53
department posts and a subset the injuries or diseases
48:55
cause I have I seen in the rate at
48:57
which the injured disease a curse the vaccine three.
48:59
The risk a permanent disability or death for the
49:01
vaccine has been proven to be less than that
49:04
caused by the infection. It isn't had to prevent
49:06
which of course exist for every vaccine. No.
49:09
Legislative that to be opposed to that. And
49:11
for the vaccines manufacturer has liability for the
49:13
deaths and serious injuries. Have any Cosmo that
49:16
scene which of course we know. Is.
49:18
The case you know we we can all
49:20
be confident that Manufacture Sam buy their products.
49:23
So. As long as it's for, conditions are met. Okay,
49:26
fine. But. If they're not met, you
49:28
get sick, Claim an exemption. Part. Of
49:30
the reason what that does it takes it also
49:32
out. Of. You can. It is this
49:34
thing that if this is part of the law
49:37
of any state, You. Know people
49:39
can quibble over religious beliefs and
49:41
quibble over medical exemptions. But
49:43
he creates an exemption has also facing
49:45
some minimal safety standards. Is. Actually
49:47
less the see it as puts the discussion
49:50
about the science about said the best clinical
49:52
trials. In a way that I think as
49:54
productive. And. So I was doesn't Just I
49:56
do think there should be enough of says exemptions and
49:58
this is A and and. The that big part
50:01
of it's called the Medical Liberty Pledge. Lot
50:03
of wonderful representatives here in Arizona signed it.
50:05
It's very simple pledge the Scout
50:07
one sentence that basically says that
50:09
i it as elected representatives. Elected
50:12
representative hereby pledged not to. You know
50:14
both family law that's going to course
50:16
any or mended any medical products. Hard
50:19
to say Over three hundred fifty elected
50:21
representatives. Are around the country or
50:23
or and a few running for office
50:25
of Scientists pledged in statehouses around the
50:27
country. And they should
50:30
be commended for doing that. So I
50:32
read Maya my Pin Sweet earlier. Ah,
50:35
I won't read it again because we're closer at
50:37
a time, but it basically says mandates of the
50:39
Police and they really are. Mandates really
50:42
are only needed When something's not safe or
50:44
effective, you can persuade of the merits. You.
50:47
Know we consume. Does your products all day
50:49
long with food water? Nobody needs courses to
50:51
do it. The only game in
50:53
each course people when there's questions about seat next
50:55
to see like over ninety. that says. You
50:59
shouldn't need an exemption. You really shouldn't.
51:01
You. Need to be able to convince people on
51:03
the merits and it's you. Can't come, It's not
51:05
America and that's been and of discussion. Here
51:08
is. How we vexing. You.
51:11
Can only get two percent. Of. Their.
51:13
It is. People. Have spoken. That's.
51:15
Freedom. And. Most you want to
51:17
get them are Mmr vaccine great? That's freedom to They
51:20
should be able to convince them on the merits. Of
51:22
let people choose. To. Finish.
51:26
Boy people. But we.
51:28
Live in a world where there are
51:30
mandates And while that semantics is this,
51:33
exemptions really are. The. Last find it
51:35
a sense of the last line of defense if you
51:37
have an issue. And so it makes
51:39
a critically important. That. We have
51:41
sure that those man exemptions remain a place.
51:43
And one of the ways you can everybody can do
51:45
that. we listening to do that. In
51:48
in Arizona in every state around the country is.
51:50
Take this presentation and if nothing else,
51:54
Show your own make them point with your
51:56
late your state rep, elected representatives. They.
51:58
Love women your neck consider. Today I
52:00
do. They think they love it when they
52:02
hear Pyxis with a solid air, but he's
52:04
running into the state representatives offs his everyday
52:06
right? And when a constituent especially three or
52:08
four so up it's like wow, you're they
52:11
are okay. What do you want to sell
52:13
me. Some. Of them are
52:15
most mandated vaccines don't preventive Texas as
52:17
listen to show them that if nothing
52:19
else so than how illiberal. Rights
52:21
crossing. That would be to get rid of. Excess.
52:24
Is let alone have the bandit. Keep
52:26
them in. Certainly. No.
52:29
Get rid of exemption because there is
52:31
a concerted effort around the country right
52:33
now, but pharmaceutical lobbyists and the farm
52:35
industry and others. To. Eliminate
52:37
exemptions. Everywhere in America.
52:40
And we have to make sure that. We. Are fight
52:43
against that. They are organized and they do that.
52:47
Fighting. It's going to require everybody stepping
52:49
up and going to go local representatives. And
52:52
Elise showing them the information that that that
52:54
some information I showed here are numerous. Other
52:56
presentations are given if you're. If
52:58
you're inclined to citroen, thank you. Thank.
53:09
You. Mr. Series since you very much
53:11
thank you for having me. when did it
53:13
really really be it? It is very. Important.
53:15
I mean there's so much information that that isn't
53:18
out so that we didn't know. In.
53:20
Its on our government's website that we're
53:22
not been told that system a son
53:24
and I think that that doesn't do
53:26
justice for anyone. So. Again,
53:29
yeah well. nobody's got a financial interest to tell
53:31
you the some soup humvees of billions of dollars
53:34
make every year they're not in. it's just tell
53:36
you in the. Federal. Health Authority
53:38
mandate as at would strip sounds of the
53:40
state Health department store funded to with a
53:42
federal dollars in large part for the programs.
53:44
Have. A actually or sessler required
53:46
to promote these products. And
53:49
they several have thirties have the have steak
53:51
the reputation. on these products they
53:53
sought after they recommended mandate kind
53:55
of hard to go back and
53:57
say oops after they've done right
54:00
So, you know, their promotion efforts and their
54:02
defense effort in the vaccine court. Totally
54:04
overtaken any safety functions that
54:07
that they've that they
54:09
have. Unfortunately, is there anything that anyone would
54:11
like to say in closing? Sure,
54:15
I'd love to say something down there and we'll
54:17
make our way our way down. Yeah. Hey,
54:21
Arizona, it's great to be here. I'm heading back
54:23
to Texas tomorrow and back to the Rio Grande,
54:26
but. Just
54:28
remember this that there's a saying at 40
54:30
BC, here, I'll cleat this wrote this of
54:32
the Spartans that out of
54:34
100 soldiers 10 shouldn't even be here. 80
54:37
or nothing, but targets 9. They're
54:40
the warriors and they the battle make and the 1 the
54:43
1 is a leader and leave the others
54:45
home. I'm asking
54:47
at least be the 9 or the 1. And
54:49
this isn't about putting on a uniform a military
54:52
and from this is in your whatever walk of
54:54
life you're in. Be a
54:56
leader stand up, be an
54:58
advocate for those that are oppressed and
55:00
stand in the gap. Because if
55:04
it comes again, where
55:06
I live, it won't not on
55:08
my watch. Oh,
55:11
I'm
55:13
going
55:16
to finish and conclude by just citing 1
55:18
more piece of information, which I think is
55:20
the most important paper. That I'm
55:22
aware of has come out in the last year and
55:24
the 1st author is smelling and colleagues
55:26
from Denmark and had a chance to talk to
55:28
1 of the authors. Regarding
55:31
the data 1st hand, so I feel very
55:33
confident in what they found. They
55:35
found of all the people who took the
55:37
cover 19 vaccines. 30% of
55:40
people had 0 side effects,
55:42
not even a sore arm. And
55:45
many of you have taken the vaccines,
55:48
your family members, you're worried about them.
55:51
Those who had no initial symptoms and
55:53
now we're 2 years into it and
55:55
they are perfectly fine. Every
55:57
bit of information we have suggest they're
55:59
fine. and they
56:01
probably got a shot that
56:04
had relatively little messenger RNA in
56:06
it or it was free of
56:09
other problems. That's a
56:11
third. It's a third of the batches. Just
56:13
under two-thirds of the batches there
56:16
was some moderate side effects. Got a
56:18
sore arm, felt sick initially,
56:22
and nothing else ever happened. And
56:24
we're now two years into it. It looks like
56:26
nothing will happen honestly. And
56:28
then there's a final batch, 4.2%
56:31
of all the doses, where
56:33
the initial reaction was pretty severe. People
56:35
had a sore arm. They felt pretty
56:38
sick. They couldn't go to work the
56:40
next day. It's in that group
56:43
that we're seeing the side effects
56:45
emerge later on. The myocarditis, blood
56:47
clots, immune system
56:49
abnormalities. But the initial
56:51
reaction seems to really matter. So
56:54
what I ask my patients all the time, they
56:56
ask me, Dr. McCullough, I took the vaccine. I'm
56:58
fine. Do I have to worry? I start
57:01
with the very first thing. Did you feel any of these
57:03
shots or were they essentially like
57:05
taking nothing? That's the first
57:07
point. So all of you have taken the
57:10
shots or you're worried about your family members,
57:12
your friends, ask about the initial symptoms. It
57:14
really appears to matter. There are
57:16
websites that say, how bad is my batch? You
57:18
can actually look up your lot number on a
57:21
website and see how it's
57:23
rank ordered. Some of them are ranked from
57:25
one to over 150 of
57:28
batches and one can get an idea
57:30
how many side effects have come in
57:32
on each one of the batches through
57:34
the reporting system. Those are rough proxies
57:37
of whether or not you have anything to
57:39
worry about. Those individuals
57:41
with symptoms, though, that actually have symptoms,
57:43
they feel sick after the vaccines and
57:45
it's roughly 15% in total of people
57:48
who've taken
57:52
the shot feel sick. And again, I think
57:54
a smaller subset is at risk for severe
57:57
illness. They probably should see
57:59
doctors. who are developing
58:02
skills in helping people
58:04
go through what's called detoxification or at
58:06
least treating the vaccine injury
58:08
syndromes. And they're popping up all over the
58:11
United States. And
58:13
so I want people to understand
58:15
the message is a large
58:18
fraction of people thankfully are
58:21
fine. It's now been
58:23
over two years since they've taken the shots and
58:25
they're fine. There's a smaller
58:27
group who have had
58:30
high risk batches, symptoms initially,
58:33
or have ongoing symptoms now or
58:35
have had one or more catastrophic
58:38
events. We've heard about one today by Ms. Garner.
58:41
Those individuals we need to focus our
58:43
attention on from a medical concern and
58:45
ongoing surveillance and protection problem. I'm Dr.
58:47
Peter McCullough. Those are my thoughts. Thank
58:49
you. Thank you. Thank you, McCullough.
58:54
Senator Schill. Thank you, Madam
58:57
Chair. Thank you to our panel who is
58:59
here today and for the information that
59:02
was disseminated to those of
59:04
us who are here. I just want
59:06
to thank the chair for putting
59:08
this on again. I know that she
59:11
works very hard and our staff who you see in
59:13
front of us works
59:15
extremely hard on
59:18
putting those together. So I
59:20
definitely want to thank them as well. But
59:24
much like the first one,
59:26
this has been very informational. I
59:29
appreciate, as
59:31
I mentioned, the doctors being here
59:33
and helping with the information, especially
59:35
what was just last discussed. Because
59:38
I think that even if
59:41
this room is made up of
59:43
people who perhaps chose not to,
59:45
odds are you are
59:47
related to somebody who did. And
59:50
you need to hear that information as well. So
59:54
with that, I want to thank the
59:56
chair one more time for putting this
59:58
together and look forward to. A
1:00:00
future discussion on purpose. Of
1:00:09
shirt. I guess
1:00:11
I'll conclude by. By. Maybe I'll. That.
1:00:15
Point out really the importance
1:00:17
of. Be. Able to
1:00:19
have informed consent given a theme of the day. Medical.
1:00:22
Freedom. Of a really
1:00:24
really is a fundamental right because.
1:00:27
If. You know, even if you love
1:00:29
every vaccine right now, you love mask new
1:00:31
love. Staying at home orders. By
1:00:33
you have it all. At that they're.
1:00:36
A threat to America should be free to
1:00:39
get three shots a day. Where. Sixteen
1:00:41
Mass Live in your basement never lead as
1:00:43
fine. As freedom. What?
1:00:45
Happens in the day comes when there's a products.
1:00:48
That. You don't want to receive. That.
1:00:52
You're. Like know, But.
1:00:55
Then you can't get a job. You
1:00:57
can go to school, you take it on
1:00:59
public transportation. If you
1:01:01
don't stand up now for this right then you
1:01:03
won't have any rights. Because it's
1:01:05
you can't get a job and you can go
1:01:07
to school. You temperatures been civil society. What?
1:01:09
Good all your other rights. See.
1:01:12
A Freedom of Speech by something your house him
1:01:14
assembly base up in your house. A pretty the
1:01:16
wall from religion by yourself. You. Can't
1:01:18
dissipate and civil society. That's
1:01:20
how we never let our rights be
1:01:23
contingent or what. Some. All. Birds.
1:01:26
Agency. Government Health
1:01:28
Authority says. We.
1:01:31
Should never be coerced mandates you
1:01:33
products. Nieto is convinced keep
1:01:35
on the merits side to scandal stress.
1:01:38
Go. Meet with your like to represent that is. Everybody
1:01:41
explain to them the importance of
1:01:44
this right? And why Even
1:01:46
if they love every vaccine, A should
1:01:48
stand on the side. freedom. Form
1:01:51
consent and individuals civil rights and
1:01:53
choice. Thank
1:02:01
you, Madam Chair. And I
1:02:04
do want to start also echoing
1:02:06
and starting my comments by thanking
1:02:09
you, Madam Chair, for your heart. I've been
1:02:11
behind the scenes. I can, we've
1:02:14
had these conversations with Senator Shope, with
1:02:16
Chairman Shope and yourself, and your
1:02:18
heart really does shine as to doing
1:02:20
this. And so I do want to
1:02:22
thank you for carrying it out. I
1:02:25
do want to say really quick, I
1:02:28
want to thank the Chairman of
1:02:30
the Senate Health Committee as well, Senator
1:02:32
Shope, for your help in
1:02:34
lending your time, your expertise, and
1:02:37
the authority to do this as well.
1:02:39
You know, both the Senate and the
1:02:41
House, we've had these conversations where it's
1:02:43
important for us, for this information. Let's
1:02:45
talk about it. This is the greatest,
1:02:48
I believe this may be a matter
1:02:50
of opinion, but it's true. This
1:02:53
is the greatest country on the face of the
1:02:55
planet. And what makes us, one of the reasons it
1:02:57
makes us so great is because the flow
1:02:59
of information and communication, the First
1:03:02
Amendment. And so I want
1:03:04
to, I do want you to know that it's hard to do
1:03:06
this, Dr. McCullough. Thank
1:03:09
you for lending yourself to, I know
1:03:12
that all this is out of
1:03:14
your heart and is to inform the public. Dr. Chambers,
1:03:16
thank you for being here
1:03:18
as well and providing us with
1:03:20
tremendous information and, Esquire,
1:03:23
Sherry, thank you
1:03:25
for being here. Honestly, it's powerful
1:03:27
information that it goes to the heart of
1:03:30
choice. And I'll say
1:03:32
a little bit about that more, but thank you for everything that
1:03:34
you're doing as well to inform the public. I'll
1:03:37
say that clearly based on the
1:03:39
information that we've heard today and
1:03:41
we've been examining through this committee,
1:03:43
we know that a one size
1:03:45
fits all approach doesn't, does not
1:03:48
work during a medical crisis or
1:03:51
ever, quite frankly, government
1:03:53
should not be infringing on the
1:03:55
rights of individuals to make their
1:03:57
own healthcare decisions. And
1:04:01
I'm often asked
1:04:03
why this, you know, why we
1:04:05
need to bring this up over
1:04:07
and over. Well, government
1:04:09
has an obligation to be
1:04:11
honest and straightforward with the
1:04:14
public, no matter
1:04:16
what the situation is. That's
1:04:19
something that I take seriously. We want to
1:04:21
make sure whether you agree with me or
1:04:23
not, that you are, government
1:04:26
should be transparent and
1:04:29
share with you all that information so that you
1:04:31
can make those decisions. This is what we
1:04:34
experienced with COVID-19 was an
1:04:36
experimental vaccine that was forced
1:04:38
on the masses without care
1:04:41
about how it would impact the future
1:04:43
of health or their future health.
1:04:48
I, we should be
1:04:50
able to find a way to address this or
1:04:53
any future pandemic without infringing
1:04:55
on people's rights. I'll
1:04:58
tell you that today I heard some comments that
1:05:00
really impacted me. Dr.
1:05:02
Chambers, when you said it's
1:05:04
not about the science, it's about the
1:05:06
policy, that was piercing. That's
1:05:09
not, that's something that should never be
1:05:11
uttered in an American system
1:05:14
of governance. It's
1:05:17
heartbreaking to hear that, especially
1:05:21
when two years later, those
1:05:24
mandates are gone.
1:05:26
It is no longer required
1:05:28
for you to join the military to get
1:05:30
a vaccine. Why? Because it was
1:05:32
an experiment. And
1:05:34
this is where I'll finish with this by
1:05:36
saying policy matters so
1:05:39
much. And as legislators,
1:05:42
we aren't here to force our activism
1:05:46
on people. We're
1:05:48
here to protect people's rights to
1:05:51
the arbiters of the oath we take for the
1:05:53
constitution as well. And so the
1:05:56
reason we want to have these type
1:05:58
of hearings is because we also
1:06:00
want to examine what our authority
1:06:02
is as legislators and
1:06:05
within those confines how we can make sure
1:06:07
that we're sharing this information and
1:06:09
protecting people's rights so that they
1:06:12
can make their informed decisions. It's
1:06:14
about choice. And look, for
1:06:16
those of you that are, one thing I
1:06:18
do want to say with my heart is I've noticed,
1:06:21
we've noticed that this has crippled people in
1:06:23
their hearts. Who do they believe? Who do
1:06:25
they trust? And I'm hoping to trust that
1:06:29
that is valuable. And there's people in, you
1:06:31
know, we can bring it light up. There's
1:06:33
people at home that are paralyzed
1:06:36
with fear, not knowing
1:06:38
who to believe. Well, this is why this
1:06:40
committee is here today, so that they can
1:06:42
hear information and make
1:06:44
their own decision. I've said
1:06:47
enough. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you very
1:06:49
much, Rupert. Yes, there you go. Yeah.
1:06:52
Thank you. I think
1:06:54
one last comment, which is I
1:06:56
actually think that holding committees like
1:06:58
this, hearings like this,
1:07:00
help restore trust, hearing from doctors,
1:07:03
will speak the truth, will speak
1:07:05
against what is narrative at incredible
1:07:08
personal cost. And also
1:07:10
having elected representatives, like the three of you up
1:07:13
here, are willing to hold hearings like this. You
1:07:15
should be incredibly commended for doing it. And
1:07:17
I know that it is not easy to
1:07:20
hold hearings and to let people
1:07:22
speak in a public forum that cuts against
1:07:24
what the mainstream believes. I'm sure you're not
1:07:26
with me. I'm just going to friends for
1:07:28
it. So thank you very, very much for
1:07:30
doing it. Wasn't
1:07:37
it cool to get a little bit
1:07:39
of an inside scoop of how Aaron
1:07:41
Siri delivers information when he's in these
1:07:43
trials and court cases that we hear
1:07:46
about the wins, but we don't know
1:07:48
how they're happening. Well, now you get
1:07:50
a sense of how brilliant he really
1:07:52
is. I really want to just thank
1:07:54
Representative Steve Montenegro and Senators Janae Shamp
1:07:56
and TJ Schope that were in the
1:07:58
room there bringing the novel coronavirus. Southwestern
1:08:00
Intergovernmental Committee together. This
1:08:03
is what government should look like. This
1:08:05
is what governance looks like. Bringing ideas
1:08:07
to the table so that people can
1:08:09
be informed and come to a decision.
1:08:11
Come, you know, have a debate on
1:08:13
a topic. I'm so proud of Arizona
1:08:15
for moving this direction. I hope it's
1:08:17
just, you know, the first
1:08:20
state and things that come as we start
1:08:22
to wake up to the truth and get
1:08:24
empowered to be a part of our government.
1:08:27
You know, when it comes to the vaccine program,
1:08:30
I believe in choice. It's your choice to
1:08:32
decide. It's a free country. If you want
1:08:34
to vaccinate, then go right ahead. You're allowed
1:08:36
to do that. But if you do not
1:08:38
believe in this process or in these products
1:08:40
or want to raise your child in,
1:08:43
you know, more of a natural way
1:08:45
with vitamins and good food and exercise,
1:08:47
you should have that right. That's
1:08:50
what we stand for here at the Informed
1:08:52
Consent Action Network, which is the parent of
1:08:55
the high wire. That's our
1:08:57
nonprofit. Informed Consent references the
1:09:00
Nuremberg Code. That's the sort of
1:09:02
code that came out of the
1:09:04
trial of the Nazi doctors. We
1:09:06
decided that no free country should
1:09:08
ever allow any atrocity like that
1:09:10
to happen driven by doctors that
1:09:12
were experimenting and trying vaccines and
1:09:14
drugs and surgeries on innocent children
1:09:17
and people. And so the first
1:09:19
rule of the Nuremberg Code is
1:09:21
the voluntary consent of the patient
1:09:23
is absolutely critical. They should be
1:09:25
informed of all the benefits and
1:09:27
all the potential side effects to
1:09:30
any procedure or product that they get
1:09:32
involved with. And then once they are
1:09:34
fully informed, guess what? They still get
1:09:36
to choose. You don't just inform them
1:09:38
and tell them they don't have any
1:09:40
choice. That wouldn't make any
1:09:42
sense. And that's what these forced mandates
1:09:45
do, especially in these states
1:09:47
that don't have religious
1:09:49
exemptions. And that's about
1:09:52
five states. So that's a part of
1:09:54
our goal right now. We won back
1:09:56
the religious exemption in Mississippi. It's time
1:09:58
to free the five. So the five
1:10:01
holdouts. states, Maine, New York, Connecticut, West
1:10:03
Virginia, and California, we're coming for you.
1:10:06
Freedom does not exist in those states. If
1:10:08
I do not control my body, if we
1:10:10
can't control what is going into our children's
1:10:12
bodies, then we are nothing more than farm
1:10:14
animals. We cannot let that stand. If you
1:10:16
want to be a part of freeing the
1:10:19
five, then why don't you become a recurring
1:10:21
donor now? All it takes
1:10:23
is going up to the top of the screen,
1:10:25
hit the button that says, donate to ICANN, and
1:10:27
then we're asking you to become a
1:10:29
recurring donor. When we go into these
1:10:32
cases, sometimes they're a year long or
1:10:34
even longer, so $24 a month helps
1:10:37
us know how much we have in the
1:10:39
bank and how many cases we can take
1:10:41
on. It's a part of
1:10:44
what we're doing here. Not only do
1:10:46
we present this incredible show, but we
1:10:48
also have this amazing, powerful legal work
1:10:50
that's being done to protect your rights,
1:10:53
your children's rights, and the future rights
1:10:56
of all the citizens of America and
1:10:58
hopefully beyond around the world as I
1:11:00
believe we're a beacon of light and
1:11:02
hope for the rest of the world.
1:11:05
Now, when we look at things like
1:11:07
vaccines, people will try to scare you.
1:11:09
They will say, if you don't vaccinate,
1:11:11
you're going to get people killed. Well,
1:11:13
as Aaron so clearly laid out, so
1:11:15
many of these vaccines don't even stop
1:11:17
you from transmitting the virus to others.
1:11:20
This whole idea of cocooning or
1:11:22
herd immunity really is a bunch
1:11:24
of bunk. In fact, the
1:11:27
opposite is happening. If you are infected
1:11:29
but you don't know it because the
1:11:31
vaccine is taking away your symptoms, then
1:11:33
you are going to be infecting those
1:11:35
that cannot vaccinate themselves. They
1:11:38
will be around you. All these kids
1:11:40
with pertussis are all over the schools.
1:11:42
They're putting everybody at risk, putting their
1:11:44
grandparents at risk, and certainly the immune
1:11:47
suppressed. So much of this story is
1:11:49
changing. And when you think of things
1:11:51
like measles, and there's all sorts of
1:11:54
fear porn going on out there around
1:11:56
measles, here's the facts. The
1:11:58
death rate of measles was one in five. 500,000
1:12:01
in the 1960s in the United States
1:12:03
of America before a vaccine ever came
1:12:05
onto the market. One in 500,000. People
1:12:11
say it's a deadly disease. When reporters say
1:12:13
that to me, I say, really? Then how are
1:12:15
you here telling me that? Because
1:12:17
the truth is, is every one of
1:12:19
our grandparents caught measles. It was one
1:12:21
of the most infectious childhood
1:12:24
illnesses there was. They considered a
1:12:26
trivial childhood illness. There was even
1:12:28
Brady Bunch episodes making fun of
1:12:30
the time when the whole family was getting
1:12:33
the measles. If you have to get sick,
1:12:35
you sure can't beat the measles. That's
1:12:37
right. No medicine. Inside or out, like
1:12:39
shots I made. Don't even mention shots.
1:12:43
Yes! So what's happened?
1:12:45
Has the virus gotten more deadly
1:12:47
or has the news gotten more
1:12:49
propagandized and is trying to make
1:12:51
us afraid? In the
1:12:53
end, we are here on this planet
1:12:55
because measles did not kill any of
1:12:58
our grandparents or we wouldn't be here
1:13:00
talking about it. I think we have
1:13:02
to take that into account when we
1:13:04
think about what we're going to do
1:13:06
and the decisions we're going to make.
1:13:08
Let's put it all on the table.
1:13:10
And in the end,
1:13:12
you get to choose. That's
1:13:14
the high wire is all about fighting
1:13:16
for your rights to vaccinate or not
1:13:19
vaccinate. To be or not to be.
1:13:21
That is the question. And we'll continue to
1:13:23
ask that next week on The
1:13:26
High Wire.
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