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Episode 359: SAFEGUARDING VACCINE EXEMPTIONS: AARON SIRI TESTIFIES PT 2

Episode 359: SAFEGUARDING VACCINE EXEMPTIONS: AARON SIRI TESTIFIES PT 2

Released Friday, 16th February 2024
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Episode 359: SAFEGUARDING VACCINE EXEMPTIONS: AARON SIRI TESTIFIES PT 2

Episode 359: SAFEGUARDING VACCINE EXEMPTIONS: AARON SIRI TESTIFIES PT 2

Episode 359: SAFEGUARDING VACCINE EXEMPTIONS: AARON SIRI TESTIFIES PT 2

Episode 359: SAFEGUARDING VACCINE EXEMPTIONS: AARON SIRI TESTIFIES PT 2

Friday, 16th February 2024
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1:02

morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are

1:04

out there in the world, it's time for

1:06

us all to step out onto the high

1:08

wire. Welcome, everybody.

1:11

You know, one of the conversations that

1:13

keeps coming up is what

1:16

about the whole childhood vaccine program? I

1:18

mean, what are the details on that?

1:20

Now we have all sorts of white

1:22

papers and things on our website, but

1:24

some people just want to lay it

1:26

out very clearly. And that's

1:28

exactly what Aaron Ciri did when

1:30

he was at the

1:33

Novel Coronavirus Southwestern Intergovernmental

1:35

Committee in Arizona. Now

1:38

we played an excerpt of this during

1:40

the Christmas holiday and it was our

1:42

number one most viewed Christmas

1:44

show of all times. There's two

1:46

parts to this testimony. The first

1:48

part was about informed consent. The

1:50

second part is all about the

1:52

childhood vaccine program. So many new

1:55

people are asking questions about the

1:57

childhood vaccine program because they watch

1:59

this. of the COVID

2:01

vaccine get made right before the eyes.

2:03

We've said it so many times, finally

2:05

people got to see how the sausage

2:07

was made. So we've decided to just

2:09

give Jeffrey Jackson the week off so

2:11

that for those of you that have

2:13

friends that are just waking up to

2:16

this idea that maybe they were lied

2:18

to about the safety of vaccines and

2:20

the efficacy, no one lays it

2:22

out better than Aaron Sittery. There's a reason

2:24

he's won all the lawsuits he has for

2:26

ICANN against the National Institute of Health, Health

2:28

and Human Services, the FDA, the

2:31

CDC, and brought back

2:33

the religious exemption in Mississippi. He's the

2:35

best of the best. And this is

2:37

him laying it out now. All

2:41

right, so state guarding vaccine

2:43

exemptions. I don't think there

2:45

should be any mandates of medical

2:47

products. I think mandates

2:50

are oppressive and illiberal. But

2:53

the way, the solution for that,

2:56

unless as long as there is a mandate, is

2:58

the ability to have an exemption. The

3:00

ability to say no. On

3:04

the screen, you'll see a map of the United

3:06

States and on this map are the exemptions that

3:08

are available for K through 12 childhood

3:11

mandated vaccines for school. I'm gonna

3:13

focus on mandated

3:15

vaccines for school as a

3:17

foil for COVID-19

3:19

vaccine mandates, just because

3:21

it's been around a lot longer and it's easier to

3:23

talk through that lens. All right, so

3:26

let's get right into the

3:29

argument for mandating

3:31

vaccines, all right? What

3:33

is the argument that you

3:35

always hear that

3:38

they have to stop transmission? They

3:41

gotta prevent a virus or

3:43

a bacteria going from person to person. That is

3:45

the reason they say they must mandate

3:47

vaccines. And on your screen, you actually will see

3:50

all the vaccines listed that are

3:52

mandated for attending kindergarten or 12th

3:55

grade in the state of Arizona.

3:57

There are six vaccines on that list.

4:00

And what we're going to do is we're going to

4:02

quickly go through all six of those, starting with pertussis.

4:04

We'll take a little longer than that one and the

4:06

rest of them real quick. And we'll take

4:09

a look at this question, do they

4:11

prevent transmission, right? You

4:14

know, why don't you mandate heart

4:16

medicine? Heart disease kills 700,000 Americans a

4:18

year. It's

4:20

probably the biggest burden on our healthcare

4:22

system. Why

4:24

don't we mandate statins, exercise, eating

4:27

healthy? We all intuitively understand that

4:29

that is offensive to

4:31

our basic rights or in good terms of a right. All

4:34

right. Why? Because it's about

4:36

personal protection. Well, to the extent

4:38

that a vaccine only affords personal protection, there

4:41

really is no difference. Pertussis

4:44

vaccines have been around for decades.

4:46

And for decades, there's been a

4:48

worldwide campaign to try to eradicate

4:50

pertussis from the globe. The

4:52

idea was we vaccinated everybody in the world

4:55

for pertussis. We get rid of pertussis.

4:58

Only problem was decade, decade,

5:01

another decade past, and the

5:03

amount of circulating pertussis bacteria

5:06

didn't go down. There were

5:08

sustained amounts of circulating pertussis. How do they

5:10

know? When you have

5:12

less circulating pathogen, the

5:14

inter-epidemic intervals get

5:16

longer, right?

5:19

But when you don't, they stay the same. The

5:22

pertussis vaccine can reduce symptoms, so

5:24

you have less cases of disease, but

5:27

you didn't have less circulating bacteria.

5:30

And they didn't know why. So the FDA

5:32

actually conducted this study that you see on

5:34

your screen. On this study, what the FDA

5:36

did is they took a group

5:38

of baboons because they're the most immunologically similar to

5:41

human beings, and they took a group of baboons

5:43

that had never had pertussis, okay,

5:46

took a group of baboons that got pertussis vaccine,

5:48

and they took a group of baboons that had

5:50

had pertussis. And then they exposed all

5:53

three groups to pertussis. What

5:55

did they find? Those

5:58

that had previously had Pertussis. When

6:00

they suck the swab up there know they couldn't

6:02

Called for any protests. They. Had

6:04

natural immunity as we call it, right?

6:07

They. Could be impacted but. The

6:10

Bad: foods. That.

6:12

Had never had classes and the pet foods

6:14

that had received the a solid protests that

6:16

scene. When. They start the slab of

6:19

their nose. It was able to

6:21

culture virus see the bacteria. For.

6:25

About forty days in fact, That.

6:27

Boozer were vaccinated, were shedding the

6:30

bacteria for longer. A

6:32

bit longer, Not. Sits with the

6:34

importance of number eight longer. In

6:36

an eighth of bearing. The. Know that

6:38

has ever had us. With.

6:42

That means is. And what

6:45

they found was that the baboons who are. Protesters.

6:47

Vaccinated and then infected a

6:49

real should just so the

6:51

protesters that scene. Of

6:54

actually. Reduce the symptoms

6:56

that it's that baboons were vaccinated

6:58

that. He had less symptoms

7:01

of justice. But. There were equally

7:03

as. On stage. Think

7:06

about that. Those that. Were.

7:09

Still more likely to go to where to buy booze

7:11

school? Why? They have

7:13

less symptoms. They're. Equally as

7:16

contagious. The baboons who

7:18

had never have protest is that same.

7:21

They. Had more symptoms. But.

7:23

As. The really stages the where were they are more

7:26

likely to go. The like you are

7:28

baboons. go. Not are more likely to

7:30

stay home, so who's all? I could have gone

7:32

to school. Spread sauces, With

7:34

i blew that were vaccinated. ironically. And

7:37

that the estes binding. Was.

7:40

I. Guess I. Should say

7:42

the finding was surprising. I would

7:44

say that fat people the said.

7:47

I would say it's a bit surprising

7:49

for the dead and and that's probably

7:51

the bravest thing I've I've seen. These

7:54

three are a suicide to severed if

7:56

they published their findings. That were

7:58

contrary to you As you can. Actually see

8:00

you see the blue line over there that sharp?

8:02

Those are the navy baboons with a baboon's that

8:05

has. Never. Are those

8:07

of everyone's that that head of every

8:09

previous effected never vaccinated You can see

8:11

I'm be days. They were infectious for

8:13

about thirty. right? Whereas.

8:15

The red line is the A so of tests

8:17

that seen you can see they were in Texas

8:19

for almost thirty five days. After.

8:22

right? Yeah, steam baths is it.

8:24

And then once they were exposed

8:26

practices so. As he

8:28

does, the study released the results.

8:31

More science gets done. This is

8:33

a consensus paper. Most. The

8:35

authors of this paper are actually

8:37

on a a pharmaceutical paid scientists

8:40

the major universities. Considered

8:42

world beating protest sex after they

8:44

all met and on the Farm A

8:46

diamond. Wrote. This paper. Here's what

8:48

they reach the conclusion a few years ago. They.

8:51

Said eight cellular processes that he. Cannot.

8:54

Avoid infection transmission. A seller

8:56

protesters that he's do Not.

8:59

Prevent. Colonization consequently. They.

9:01

Do Not reduce the circulation of Board of

9:03

Health practices. And Do Not exert.

9:06

Any a herd immunity effect and quote.

9:08

Now. My words. These. Are

9:11

they consider the world's leading protesters

9:13

that seen experts paid by farmers

9:15

companies? And this is our conclusion is.

9:18

Unavoidable. The science was just. Had

9:21

developed the point where they they couldn't ignore that. In.

9:24

Fact we actually sent a

9:26

are a foil requests to

9:28

the Sega adds to the

9:30

Cdc. And. We'd set them Hate And

9:32

you are. Provide. A studies

9:35

please That so. You.

9:37

Know That said, that. Protests vaccine. Only

9:40

that reduce symptoms it doesn't prevent. I says

9:42

mission those two studies I just so do.

9:45

They. Listed them back to us. Mets.

9:47

High place. And they

9:49

had no science to show contract. That

9:53

is. So. Here's something that

9:55

we did. Most. people out

9:57

there think that protesters vaccine preventable

10:00

transmission. Would everybody agree with that? Do

10:04

most people think that the

10:06

average American believes the test vaccine

10:08

prevents transmission? Do you think?

10:10

Would you agree with that? Okay. So

10:12

we thought so too. We thought

10:14

so too. We thought that most Americans

10:17

don't understand that the vaccine is

10:19

personal protection. That's

10:21

important to know. It's not preventing

10:24

you from transmitting it. It actually makes you

10:27

asymptomatic spread. It's

10:30

all good to know, especially because they tell

10:33

you, hey, your grandma or grandpa,

10:35

you don't want to spread your tusses to your baby. Well,

10:39

you know, if you're not vaccinated, you're more likely to have

10:41

symptoms of no stay away from the baby, but if you're

10:44

vaccinated, you're less likely to know. Probably

10:46

a good idea if you think that people know that

10:48

reality. So

10:50

we petitioned the FDA formally to ask

10:53

them to add on

10:55

the package insert or the

10:58

pertussis vaccine exactly that,

11:00

that it doesn't prevent infection transmission.

11:05

And what the FDA wrote back, here's what the

11:07

FDA said. They didn't deny it

11:09

doesn't solve the infection transmission. They know it doesn't. They said, no,

11:12

no, no, there's no widespread misconception about

11:14

that. People aren't confused. Yeah,

11:17

you can read it for yourself. As

11:19

I just pointed out, reducing symptoms while remaining

11:21

able to transmit makes one more

11:23

likely to transmit. And in fact, there's

11:26

even some data that indicates that inter-epidemic

11:28

intervals of pertussis have gotten a little

11:30

narrower, meaning there's even more circulating

11:32

pertussis back here and now than

11:35

there previously was. And

11:37

this is a study that talks about the

11:39

inter-epidemic intervals not changing and maybe even getting

11:41

narrower. You can read it right there.

11:43

It's a more high impact journal,

11:46

peer reviewed science. So those

11:49

that get the pertussis vaccine will have

11:51

reduced symptoms potentially, but

11:55

the deep blue is likely to transmit. So

11:57

they're more likely to keep going to school,

11:59

pretend We spread the virus. right?

12:03

Altered Second edition. Case

12:06

called linked up with Hope Suppression. What?

12:08

This means. He's. Fallen. And

12:12

this is again not not me saying it's with herpes

12:14

virus or. Anybody

12:17

that gets for practices vaccine. The

12:19

pertussis vaccine give them a good. Fun!

12:23

Part. Of the approximately three

12:25

thousand incidence of the protest factor.

12:28

That point. Five. That

12:30

Munich. M. Fritz.

12:33

Under these. Such. That.

12:36

The. Next hundred, they're exposed. To

12:39

the pretences: bacteria itself. Their.

12:41

Body doesn't then developed robust, been.

12:44

Together. Since I've tried to prevent five and.

12:48

They're. Fine every time they're exposed

12:50

the protests bacteria. Only.

12:53

Has a robust immune response.

12:55

Those five antigens. That's

12:57

it. We know that because it's a. Pity

13:00

survive such thing Other antibody

13:02

response. When. They're effect later and they

13:04

found that. Peace. And a pilot

13:06

says. It's about what that

13:08

means. With. That means.

13:11

Is that? They. Can

13:13

be infected. Over

13:16

and over. And

13:18

over. Cause. They.

13:20

Never developed a proper immune

13:22

response. Is tasks

13:24

such a charity Sea Lanes of

13:26

Sported you know and works in

13:28

this area. One of the

13:31

suggestions was, or what have we create

13:33

a vaccine that's for the to the

13:35

other two thousand, ninety five, as it

13:37

is for? This,

13:39

the fact that he's out there

13:42

isn't that spot that fits. I

13:44

hope that has never gotten the

13:46

vaccine gets. in fact, the once

13:48

has muji for years. Know this

13:50

isn't a goddess safe. The

13:53

child that gets this that scene and

13:55

has this immunity inference on that. One.

14:00

The. First time to get infected. They

14:02

have less symptoms, don't notice they are.

14:05

Here to think. That. Infection doesn't

14:08

and in fixing their views. That

14:11

affects the didn't said the fact that they

14:13

still. Only get. A

14:15

robust The Responses: five incidents

14:18

which. Apparently doesn't does

14:20

a job at system such as

14:22

this. So they can

14:24

get her back and then they can get affected.

14:26

Didn't get month later and a month later over

14:28

and over death. That is what

14:31

might have been so suppression. Does.

14:34

Very bad. Because. Of

14:36

my depth of suppression, all children who

14:38

are primed by the topic seems will

14:40

be more susceptible. To

14:42

protesters throughout their lifetime. And there's

14:44

no easy way to decrease this

14:47

increase lifetime sensibility. And now you

14:49

understand why that as a boy.

14:52

So. To a

14:54

school children vaccinated for justice and school.

14:57

Are. They more isn't the whole idea I

15:00

thought. To. Make sure we

15:02

have. Vaccinate. And we

15:04

have to school kids. I don't get to

15:06

that scene because they they claim that molested

15:08

spread. Now we know. Now

15:10

the sciences decision that the vaccinated

15:13

kids are more like with spread.

15:16

Protesters. And school. Five.

15:18

Of Us census the of note the spreading.

15:21

To excluded from school. Horsnell.

15:25

Course we don't. Course

15:28

it on from them for school. Because.

15:30

The whole idea. Is

15:33

that? Take my people's rights.

15:36

Is. Always the more dangerous thing

15:38

to do. Throughout. The long are

15:40

to history. It has always been. Take

15:42

away people's rights as resulted in more

15:45

harm. To Humanity.

15:47

Than. Any virus or pathogen, or

15:50

any intervention, Of any kind.

15:52

We. Don't do that. We don't take

15:54

away people's rights. Certainly don't school children.

15:57

From. School. Ironically, anything or.

16:00

Anybody wants to read the slater immunity

16:02

provided by the pertussis vaccine? To.

16:05

Reducing symptoms, Wayne's only within a a

16:07

number of years. After

16:09

five doses, it's P. Two

16:11

months of age of five months days and then a

16:14

t det supt so six don't. Have.

16:16

To two to four years according to this

16:18

is in the Cdc website. it's only thirty

16:20

four percent effective, reduce the symptoms and after

16:22

that it. Quickly. Drops the a point

16:25

nine percent at just reduced Sims of. Selecting.

16:27

Doesn't even last long. Recent census. That's.

16:30

Protest suspects So but the envoy

16:32

move on both parts Us: I

16:35

want to get this quote in

16:37

that meeting minutes. Jama Twenty sixteen

16:39

First author is sad. Key and

16:42

colleagues looked at all the Us

16:44

pertussis outbreaks after a january of

16:46

two thousand. So in the modern

16:49

era, sixty five to seventy six

16:51

percent of everybody who got pertussis

16:53

in the United States. Was.

16:56

Fully or partially vaccinated against

16:58

protests. So. If you

17:00

wanted clear proof. Is

17:02

clear that Pertussis vaccine does

17:04

not eliminate protesters. And

17:07

it's clear is very possible to fully

17:09

get the infection and get sex. And

17:11

be fully vaccinated. Saw. The

17:14

point is. As errands gonna

17:16

point out, none of these vaccines are

17:18

perfect. My I'll have do is do an

17:20

outbreak analysis and see you took the shot. At

17:23

and support another point on that. From.

17:26

A legal perspective. The whole

17:28

argument. For. Throwing excluding

17:30

children for school from

17:33

gamestop. Is. Because you need

17:35

to prevent transmission. But. If

17:37

the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission,

17:39

entire underpinning. For. This

17:41

illiberal rights crushing mandate. Side

17:45

even their reality. right?

17:47

So. The. Basis. For.

17:50

Excluding children Protests. It

17:52

is no different than schooling a child for school

17:54

for. Not. Doing anything

17:56

else, You. Think

17:58

that eating healthier is good. right? You aren't

18:00

You want you? taking a asthma inhaler

18:02

is the things important for particular child.

18:05

Wonderful. Made. You want to cause it

18:07

made you want encourage people to take that Us

18:09

That seems because a camera descendants. But.

18:11

His personal protection at best. And a

18:13

fact. It. Might even be undercutting your

18:15

objective by setting presents a since my

18:18

children at school. So. The that

18:20

The point is that the. Underpinning.

18:22

Argument. We. Saw the same

18:24

thing with polio vaccine. Cover.

18:26

Vaccines. They said it'll stop transmission initially, just

18:28

like protests. That's it. And. Then

18:31

after a while. It was accelerated

18:33

cause it's so much sides and attention to it.

18:35

Then. They quickly started realizing know it

18:37

doesn't have to purchase and. And

18:40

get out. The consensus is now that

18:42

it's dozens. Ah, but it took

18:44

I took a while protests have a lot longer

18:47

figure that out. Oh, vaccine

18:49

blocked worker nonetheless, they they'd

18:51

still tries mandated. By

18:53

slapping the label that seems on and somehow he

18:56

gives the right the things that you sacred rites

18:58

of move on next is up to thirty. A

19:00

vaccine will go through the rest them a lot

19:02

quicker said I do protests as a little bit

19:05

more in depth but I'll do the rest lot

19:07

quicker. Or this is a Cdc

19:09

study has just read you what they

19:11

found out when truth is regional to

19:13

them. quote to theory it's hot so

19:16

it helps prevent suspense is symptomatic disease.

19:18

But. Does not prevent the terrorists eight or

19:20

stop the spread of infection. The no reports

19:22

of the Karen spread Syria and it's met

19:24

them as a failure. Fatso to prevent terrorists

19:27

eight letters glued but because of her movies

19:29

not applicable to rest of the theory. And

19:31

you know why? That is because it's

19:33

a theory. A vaccine doesn't include any

19:36

actual antigens of the theory bacteria. It

19:38

only includes antigens. From. The

19:40

it only includes excuse me he talks

19:42

and sometimes relief by the bacteria. That's

19:44

all that's in the vaccines. It's hot

19:47

so that seats so there's nothing in

19:49

the vaccine that actually gives you any

19:51

immunity to the back diphtheria bacteria itself.

19:54

just a toxin is sometimes release so obviously

19:56

you're infected by the theory of bacteria it

19:59

so going to and

20:01

so forth, there's nothing in the vaccine

20:03

that prevents that. And the theory also

20:05

has a complicated history, won't go into now.

20:07

But the point is, does it prevent infection

20:09

transmission according to the CDC authors

20:12

in this study, tetanus. Tetanus,

20:14

this is again the CDC last I

20:16

checked, not an anti-vaccine organization. And look

20:18

what they wrote, does not spread from

20:20

person to person. You can't

20:23

spread tetanus from one person to another.

20:25

Again, is there a reason to exclude

20:27

a child from school? Not

20:29

having tetanus vaccine to order

20:31

to prevent spread? No. Another thing about

20:33

tetanus and diphtheria, by the way, this

20:36

is the adult vaccine schedule. The immunity

20:38

wanes so rapidly, the adult vaccine

20:40

schedule provides you need to get it every

20:42

10 years. Next slide. And

20:45

by the way, most adults in that

20:47

study, a big

20:49

percent of adults don't get that every 10-year

20:51

shot. But

20:54

in any event. Next slide, please. Polio,

20:56

if I could just make one editorial comment as a

20:59

doctor. Pertussis and

21:01

diphtheria, we treat with

21:03

azithromycin, Z-PEC. How many

21:05

of you have taken a Z-PEC? You've already covered

21:08

the infection, right? We

21:10

clean deep tissue wounds and we give

21:12

antibiotics in the emergency room. When someone

21:15

gets a tetanus shot in the emergency

21:17

room, it's not protecting them

21:19

from infection from the cut they

21:21

just had, it's protection from a future

21:23

cut. Most people don't think that. They think

21:25

that actually they're getting something that's going to

21:28

help them right now. So

21:30

none of these bacterial vaccines,

21:32

diphtheria, pertussis, and

21:36

tetanus are

21:39

ones where we couldn't treat anyway.

21:42

The same is true for a homophilus influenza B. So

21:45

the point is if one takes one of

21:47

these vaccines, it's only for their own personal

21:50

concern and risk and not for the risk

21:52

of anyone else. Again,

21:54

no reason to exclude anybody from school

21:56

for refusing it. You want

21:58

to get them? Great. But don't

22:01

crush people's rights for it. Polio vaccine. The

22:03

only polio vaccine used in the United States

22:05

since the year 2000 is an

22:08

inactivated polio vaccine. It's injected into

22:10

the arm. Polio,

22:12

and what it does is it'll create

22:14

some immunity in your blood system, systemic

22:16

immunity. What it doesn't do is create

22:18

immunity in your

22:20

mucosal surfaces, in

22:22

your intestinal tract, which is where polio

22:25

proliferates. Polio is equal

22:27

to oral contamination. So

22:30

the vaccine is intended

22:33

to create immunity in your blood to

22:35

maybe prevent the polio virus from going

22:37

from your intestinal tract into

22:39

your blood and getting to your spinal column. But what it

22:42

doesn't do, what it cannot do, is

22:44

it doesn't create any immunity in your

22:46

intestinal tract, IgA antibodies versus the IgG

22:49

antibodies in your blood that actually

22:51

neutralize the virus in your intestinal tract. You

22:54

still, if you are infected with polio

22:56

virus and you've been vaccinated with an

22:58

inactivated polio vaccine, you

23:01

are just as likely to shed just as much

23:03

polio virus as if you were not vaccinated. Go

23:06

back one slide, please, and zoom in on the

23:08

text. This is

23:10

the CDC's own words. IPV protects

23:12

people against all three types of polio virus.

23:15

IPV does not contain live virus and

23:17

cannot cause disease. It,

23:20

thank you, protects you from polio disease, and here

23:22

it is, but does not

23:24

stop transmission of the

23:26

virus. CDC's own

23:28

words. Can I, as a show of

23:31

hands in the audience, how many people knew that? A

23:35

couple, I did not, so.

23:38

This is the Global Eradication

23:41

Initiative. This is WHO, CDC,

23:43

Rotary, UNICEF, and

23:47

the world's leading health authority, the Bill Mellon Gates

23:49

Foundation initiative,

23:53

and they explain it right here. IPV

23:55

induces very low levels of immunity and tests

23:57

it as a result when a person immunizes

23:59

IP. The virus

24:02

can still multiply inside the intestines and be shed in

24:04

the feces risk and continued circulation. I PV does not.

24:06

Stop transmission of the virus know that's surprising to a lot

24:09

of people. People don't believe it unless they

24:11

actually see the CDC says it. Well,

24:15

now, for those out there who. You

24:17

know, the Oracle has said it the CDC has said

24:19

it. It doesn't stop

24:21

transmission. I'm not saying don't get the vaccine. You

24:25

want to get the vaccines America free country, but

24:27

there's no policy reason to exclude children from

24:30

school. We're not getting it. Just punitive. Next

24:34

slide please. The ninja

24:37

cockle vaccines now on the 4th

24:40

vaccine required for school in Arizona. And by the way,

24:42

these 6 vaccines are typically the same 6 vaccines required

24:44

for K through 12 in almost every state in the country. Differs

24:48

by 1 or 2. This

24:51

again is the CDC. It

24:53

says the rates of the ninja cockle disease

24:55

of the client United States since the 1990s. And

24:58

remain low today. Much of the client occurred before

25:00

the routine use of meningococcal vaccine.

25:04

Data suggests the ninja cockles

25:06

have provided protection to those vaccinated. But

25:08

probably not to the larger unvaccinated community

25:10

population or herd immunity and quote. So

25:14

that's the

25:16

CDC also explaining

25:18

this vaccine is not it's it's it's maybe

25:21

personal protection, but it's not community protection by

25:23

the way. The number of people that died

25:25

from an inch a cockle is so low every

25:27

year under 100. They estimate it somewhere on the 100. They

25:29

don't know. And because the incidence is so incredibly low, the

25:31

clinical trial couldn't actually. Do

25:35

a comparison of how effective

25:37

it is at preventing meningococcal

25:40

in the real world. Because they would need

25:42

to have had 10 million people in the trial. So they

25:44

just did some serological information. They assume it works. They

25:46

don't know any event. The

25:52

point that this is that it's not it

25:54

doesn't it's not providing community protection. Again,

26:00

there's no reason to exclude a child for not having this.

26:03

Oh, oh, and by the way, again,

26:05

the CDC protection from an intercalc vaccination wanes

26:07

in most of the lessons within five years.

26:11

Okay. School's usually longer

26:13

than five years. And so, you know, hepatitis

26:16

B vaccine. So now we're

26:18

now, excuse me, now on the fourth vaccine.

26:20

Now the hepatitis B vaccine, hepatitis B is

26:23

transmitted. Blood blood

26:25

contamination. Okay. It's

26:28

very, it would be very, very hard

26:30

sitting in a classroom for

26:32

one student to give hepatitis B to another. It's

26:35

actually almost very difficult to imagine. Like I

26:37

explained earlier in the day, hepatitis

26:40

B typically transmits through intravenous

26:42

drug sharing, dirty needle sharing,

26:44

or really permits sexual intercourse.

26:46

Those are the typical ways that adolescents,

26:50

school-aged children would potentially get it. We,

26:53

in fact, FOIA sent the FOIA request,

26:55

the Freedom of Information request to the

26:57

CDC, and we asked them,

26:59

quote, for documents sufficient

27:02

to reflect any cases

27:05

of transmission of hepatitis B in an elementary,

27:07

middle, or high school setting. What

27:09

was the CDC's response? A

27:11

search of our records failed to reveal any documents

27:14

pertaining to your request. They didn't have

27:16

a single instance of hepatitis

27:18

B being transmitted in a classroom setting.

27:22

That they were able to provide. And in

27:24

fact, the official guidance is even in healthcare

27:26

school settings where you are in contact with

27:28

people that are hepatitis B positive, you

27:31

know, with needles and so forth. Students

27:33

that have hepatitis B shouldn't be excluded

27:35

from being able to work with those,

27:37

you know, patients so forth. In any

27:39

event, let's put all that aside. The

27:41

point is, in a school setting, hepatitis

27:43

B is not a risk. And

27:45

so excluding children who do not get hepatitis

27:47

B vaccine, who are hepatitis B negative, by

27:50

the way, makes no

27:52

sense. Chickenpox

27:55

vaccine, we have finally arrived, finally,

27:59

at a vaccine. vaccine that

28:01

can't prevent effective

28:03

transmission to some degree in a school

28:05

setting and period. Okay?

28:09

Chickenpox vaccine can is a live

28:11

attenuated vaccine, meaning you actually are

28:13

getting chickenpox. You're just getting

28:15

a version of

28:17

it that's in passage through the culture

28:19

cell line of a board of fetuses numerous

28:22

times to render it into kind of a

28:24

different form and then so

28:26

it replicates in your body when it's injected into you. Let's

28:29

call it tens of thousands of times versus millions

28:31

of times. Okay. And it's a Frankenstein

28:33

version of it, having gone through the

28:37

culture cell line of a board of fetuses and

28:40

so forth. In any event, here's the thing

28:42

about chickenpox vaccine. According

28:44

to the manufacturer's package insert and

28:46

the, as approved by the FDA,

28:49

transmission, quote, transmission of varicella

28:52

vaccine virus resulting in varicella

28:54

infection, including disseminated disease may

28:57

occur between vaccinated recipients

28:59

who develop or do not develop

29:01

a varicella like rash and

29:04

contact susceptible to varicella,

29:06

including healthy as well as high risk

29:08

individuals. What they're saying is that those

29:11

who get this vaccine can

29:13

give chickenpox, transmit the virus to others, and

29:16

they explained that it can do so for

29:18

up to six weeks after vaccination. Due

29:20

to the concern for transmission of

29:22

vaccine virus, vaccine recipients should attempt

29:25

to avoid whenever possible close association

29:27

with susceptible high risk individual for

29:29

up to six weeks following vaccination

29:31

of varipax. Do we

29:33

exclude children from

29:35

school after they get the chickenpox vaccine in

29:38

Arizona or in any other state? No. No,

29:41

they don't. And that is very reflective of

29:43

the fact that there's

29:46

not really a concern about

29:48

transmitting chickenpox in school. There

29:51

were high risk individuals. If you were,

29:54

you would exclude those

29:56

children during those six weeks. The reality is you

29:58

don't. One they

30:00

tighter practice those high risk of the

30:02

tiger pregnant women foreign see the chickenpox

30:04

they now. To. If

30:07

somebody is susceptible to farm. From.

30:10

Sigma Pox Virus. That.

30:12

Means except for the harm from the other

30:14

over fourteen hundred known pathogens. They're. Not

30:16

in school. This idea of

30:18

a child. Who. Susceptible Harper

30:21

chickenpox, but not susceptible to

30:23

harm. Than. The fourteen has to other

30:25

known. Viruses. Is

30:27

a fix. The. People people who are

30:29

can be harm a chicken pox. Virus

30:32

or older adults. That.

30:34

Have never had chickenpox, never had the vaccine.

30:36

So the question on the table for the

30:38

status. Is a chicken pox

30:40

vaccine or. Prior. Chicken Pox

30:43

status is that mandated and

30:45

assess the teachers. Who.

30:49

The pleasure. Say.

30:53

Let's. Put it this way for policy perspective.

30:55

I'm Sandra Thomson. From a

30:57

policy perspective. If. You're not excluding

30:59

children after they get to shop for the six

31:01

weeks he should be school children. Don't get the

31:03

shot. Up the point as

31:05

you can actually be putting people at risk

31:08

with the shot. I understand. Get your you

31:10

see what I mean? These are examples where

31:12

states need to have. Doctors

31:15

who are knowledgeable and

31:17

and have the intellectual

31:19

range of experience. And

31:22

knowledge to ask important questions. You.

31:25

Know this is the purpose. Of having

31:27

a state Attorney General are having

31:29

a Health and Human Services committee

31:31

with advisory committees people how to

31:33

be asking reasonable questions I just

31:35

for I thought I thought were

31:37

supposed to just say safe and

31:39

effective as as stop there but

31:41

but honestly the purpose was air

31:43

getting to is what's the purpose

31:45

of having public policy around mass

31:47

vaccination than actually excluding kids from

31:50

schools at what have you It

31:52

is? It's not thought through correctly.

31:54

I've only seen serious chickenpox in

31:56

my. Career earlier it was

31:58

chickenpox. the mode yet But it's exclusively

32:00

in older adults. That's

32:03

the risk. And

32:05

ironically, the chickenpox program has

32:07

created a situation where older

32:09

folks are potentially more likely to get

32:11

chickenpox because the vaccine immunity actually wanes

32:14

more readily, making them more susceptible,

32:17

which causes, you know, maybe

32:19

this is not the forum for it, but, right,

32:21

the chickenpox virus is dorming in your nerves and

32:23

then is more likely to reemerge if you don't

32:25

have enough immunity, reemerging of shingles, which

32:29

is increasing society. Okay.

32:31

But from a policy perspective, in terms

32:33

of protecting exceptions, it makes no

32:36

sense to exclude children with no chickenpox if we don't

32:38

have the vaccine. If you're not actually in those, get

32:40

the vaccine, at least for those six weeks. Okay.

32:44

So let's just do a quick recap. All

32:46

right. Detach. And on the measles,

32:48

mumps, and rubella vaccine, because

32:51

of the time limitations, if anybody wants to

32:53

see the arguments and discussion about that, they

32:55

can watch, I guess, what was discussed earlier

32:57

today. Again, if you haven't had enough watching

33:00

me present. So here they

33:02

are. Here are the six vaccines required for

33:04

K-12 in Arizona, similar to most of your

33:07

states. DTaP and active hypolium and meningococcal. They

33:10

don't prevent infection and transmission according to the

33:12

CDC and FDA's own studies and data. There's

33:14

no policy or reason for excluding these

33:16

people, these children from school, people from work,

33:18

and so forth for not getting themselves. Hepatitis

33:21

B doesn't transmit in the school setting.

33:23

The varicella vaccine transmits for six weeks after

33:26

the shot that you don't exclude those

33:28

children canary in the coal mine.

33:30

That's really what's going on here. It's not

33:32

really about the quote unquote protection.

33:34

It's about a policy, as we saw

33:36

in the military. Okay. So policy,

33:38

not about science. MMR

33:41

vaccine, when you really

33:43

look closely at the data, it is

33:45

not the end of the world that everybody

33:48

makes it out to be. And in fact,

33:50

there's a lot of good reason to think

33:52

that it causes more harm than good based

33:55

on the dispassion or view of available data.

33:57

So the

33:59

entire. Their underpinning for

34:02

mandates to begin with is to prevent

34:04

transmission to increase the overall health.

34:06

There's a lot of questions about whether it

34:09

does either of those for every one of

34:11

the six mandated vaccines. That

34:13

said, we live

34:15

in a world where they're mandated. So how

34:17

does one exclude themselves from

34:19

having to take these products if they want to?

34:22

Well, there are two available

34:25

exemptions currently. Well,

34:27

in Arizona and the

34:30

third one, there's three

34:32

available exemptions in Arizona. There's

34:34

philosophical, religious and a

34:36

medical exemption. I'm going to go through a philosophical exemption

34:38

that speaks for itself. You

34:40

don't like it, you have philosophical objection, you say no.

34:44

Religious exemptions. Let's go through that very

34:46

briefly. Next slide please.

34:48

What was the First Amendment religious freedom

34:51

intended to protect? I think

34:53

there's a little bit of a misunderstanding about what

34:55

religious freedom really means. People say,

34:57

well, I don't go to church on Sunday, you know. So

35:00

I don't have a religious reason or my organized

35:02

religion doesn't have

35:05

any objections to vaccines. That's not what

35:08

the First Amendment was intended to protect. When

35:10

the First Amendment was ratified by the

35:13

states in 1791, you

35:15

have to think back to what life was like back

35:17

then. That

35:20

wasn't something you did on Sunday. People

35:23

didn't separate the secular from religious in the

35:26

way we do today. People

35:29

lived their convictions in many ways. When

35:31

they talked about being able to

35:34

have freedom of expression

35:36

as the way it's described in the

35:38

Constitution, right, free exercise

35:40

pause, you were able

35:42

to live your convictions. And those

35:44

weren't something you did part of the

35:46

week. It is a way of

35:49

it is following the convictions of

35:51

your heart and mind to be able

35:54

to live your life. And

35:57

so when somebody thinks about it, they're like, oh,

35:59

I'm going to do this. about, well, I don't have a

36:01

religious belief. Well,

36:04

it's a lot broader than that. Even if

36:06

the organized religion you associate with doesn't

36:09

have an issue or an objection to the

36:11

aborted fetal tissue or so forth with vaccines,

36:14

but you do, the

36:17

First Amendment recognizes that. Right. In fact,

36:20

it would violate the establishment clause if

36:23

a religious exemption was limited

36:25

to organized religion. Many courts have held that.

36:28

And in fact, you know, there are only six states

36:30

in America up until recently that had only

36:33

a medical exemption to 10 school. There's now

36:35

five because, you know, we've had a

36:37

case that we brought in Mississippi where

36:39

the judge ordered that because

36:42

there was a secular exemption, medical,

36:47

and the state was able to accommodate for

36:49

a secular reason, they also had to accommodate

36:51

for religious reason. Obviously, we're very

36:53

happy with that ruling, and we intend to

36:55

bring that. I can't support us to

36:57

bring that same lawsuit in all the other five states

36:59

that don't have any exemption

37:02

of the medical exemption to 10 school, which

37:04

is Cali, New York, Connecticut,

37:07

Maine, and West Virginia. This will

37:09

be the one video I show. So

37:13

this might give you a little bit of insight

37:15

into why some people might have a religious objection

37:17

to vaccination. In your

37:19

work related to vaccines, how

37:21

many fetuses have been part of that work? My

37:25

own personal work, too. I'm

37:28

going to hand you with the Mark plaintiffs, he did it

37:30

41. Okay. Are

37:37

you familiar with this article, Dr. Bergen?

37:49

Yes. Okay. Are you

37:51

listed as an author on this article? Yes. This

37:56

study took place

37:58

at the Wistar Institute. starts

38:03

to correct? Yes. How many fetuses were

38:08

used in the study described in this article? Quite

38:10

a few. So this study

38:15

involved 74 fetuses correct? I

38:19

don't remember exactly how many. To

38:21

turn to page 12 of the study. 76. 76. And these

38:23

fetuses were all three months or older when

38:25

aborted correct? Yes.

38:29

And these were all normally

38:31

developed fetuses correct? Yes. What

38:33

organs did you

38:35

harvest from these fetuses? Well

38:37

I didn't personally harvest any but a whole

38:39

range of fetuses. So

38:41

I was able to harvest them.

38:44

So I was able to harvest them. So I

38:46

was able to

38:48

harvest any but a

38:50

whole range of tissues

38:53

were harvested by co-workers. And these pieces

38:59

were then cut up into little pieces right?

39:01

Yes. And they were cultured?

39:04

Yes. Some of the

39:08

pieces of the fetuses

39:10

were pituitary gland that were chopped

39:12

up into pieces. Okay. Included

39:16

the lung of the fetuses? Yes.

39:18

Okay. Included the skin? Yes. Kidney?

39:20

Yes. Spleen? Yes.

39:23

Heart? Yes. And tongue? I don't recall but probably

39:25

yes. So I just

39:27

want to make sure

39:30

I understand. In your entire career, and this was just

39:32

one study. So I'm going

39:35

to ask you again.

39:38

In your entire career how many

39:41

fetuses have you worked with? Well I don't

39:43

remember the exact number but quite a few

39:46

when we were studying them originally before we

39:50

decided to use them to make vaccines. So I'm going to ask you again.

39:53

In your entire Career,:

39:56

how many fetuses have you worked with? I don't

39:58

know. I don't know. I don't know. Have

40:03

any sense. I in this one study had

40:05

seventy six. how many other studies as you

40:07

how that used aborted fetuses are wide. I

40:09

don't remember how many young your where. Are

40:12

you aware that the one of the. Objections:

40:15

Vaccination by The. Plaintiff.

40:18

In this case, The

40:20

inclusion of aborted fetal. Tissue.

40:23

In the development of vaccines and

40:25

the fact that it's actually part

40:27

of ingredients are that seems health

40:30

I'm aware of those objections. The

40:32

Young Are Catholic Church is actually

40:34

issue the documents on that with

40:36

says that individuals who need the

40:39

vaccines had received the vaccines regardless

40:41

of the fact and that are

40:43

that are I am. I think

40:46

it implies that I am the

40:48

individual who will go to hell

40:50

because of the use of aborted.

40:53

Tissues with shiny and blow to do.

40:56

You know if the mothers catholic

40:59

I have no idea against do

41:01

take issue with religious beliefs Yes.

41:05

You've said that quote vaccination is always

41:07

under attack by religious zealots who believe

41:09

that the will of God includes death

41:11

and disease. Guess he stand by that

41:13

statement. I absolutely do pay. Are you

41:15

an atheist? Guess. I sort

41:18

should understand that when they talk

41:20

about taking seventy six completely normally

41:22

developing fetuses. And. They

41:24

have to take them out and they take pretty much

41:27

every single organ. A trotman to

41:29

three centimeter cues and make correct, try to

41:31

culture and see which one is the best

41:33

medium to grow vaccine virus. Those.

41:36

Hands have to be alive. You

41:39

can't culture. And dead

41:41

cells. So. When those

41:43

organs are coming out of those babies, They.

41:46

Must remain. The.

41:48

Cells all. Must.

41:51

Be alive. The tongue. A.

41:53

Heart. Liver. Lungs.

41:56

Everything in our baby was alive. Thousand

42:00

and after mean that way. And what they

42:02

do is they take them and they. See. Which

42:04

is gonna be the grass mediums

42:06

ground because viruses only multiply and.

42:09

Celts, And allied cells.

42:12

So. For example, the Chicken Pox virus

42:14

vaccine. To. Make the

42:16

virus that goes into the vial

42:18

they grow the vaccine pox virus

42:20

on culture cell line aborted fetal

42:22

tissue. There. Are literally.

42:25

In every vile of chickenpox vaccine this

42:27

inject into every child in every bottle.

42:30

There are billions, not millions, billions

42:32

of pieces. A saloon

42:34

debris and Dna. From

42:36

an aborted fetal cell line in

42:39

every single shot. Because. Part.

42:41

Of the manufacturing process. can't remove the

42:43

virus to super super tiny. From

42:46

the So was stuff straight that they're grown up.

42:49

And I'll make one other point about. With.

42:51

Religious conviction there really goes back to the

42:53

military and and the army. Members.

42:56

Are military? Swear an oath? To

42:58

lay down their lives, to defend the

43:00

constitution, And the very first.

43:04

Very first freedom. Under.

43:06

The Bill Of Rights and Constitution is. Freedom.

43:08

Of free access. To leave

43:11

your convictions. And yet the

43:13

members of our military who sought a religious exempt

43:15

from the coven I T vaccine. Were.

43:17

Being denied it. And wrote this.

43:19

As many of you know, we brought a lawsuit

43:21

against the Airforce that got a class or to

43:23

jump to preventing them. Air Force and

43:25

kicking out over ten thousand. Members of the

43:27

Air Force and brought one gets the army. And.

43:31

It really goes back to what was being

43:33

discussed earlier that. It's a

43:36

really is really ah I'm.

43:38

Failure of leadership. That those

43:41

who are running the military can't you

43:43

recognize that? The. Very freedom. Their

43:45

fi asking their soldiers to fight for

43:47

die for employees for they're not even

43:49

honoring for their own soldiers and I

43:52

could see how that would be very

43:54

very destructive to morale. certain in our

43:56

clients we understand that. Okay, Once.

43:58

A year up here. buddy. Even Planes

44:00

of Leaving Chainsaws Blue denies that, but

44:02

they believe in vaccines. You hear that

44:05

all day long and it's a very

44:07

big truism. Really is almost. I. An

44:09

ideology. You. Know and you Also,

44:11

you're all the time. Vaccines. Are

44:14

the only thing that can save us from the pandemic.

44:16

So. That kind of language reserve for

44:18

religion. right? If

44:21

somebody says you the only thing that will save you. Is

44:24

this product? What do you actually typically think

44:26

was going That's gonna save you. Might.

44:29

Think something else, not as seems less thought.

44:32

Hey. Nobody. Should be coerced to

44:35

abandon their police for the police a quote unquote,

44:37

health authorities and a lot of what you hear

44:39

about vaccines. His. Dog Police next.

44:42

Medical. Exemptions. That's.

44:44

The other type presents is available. My sides

44:47

lose. Medical. Exemptions like all medicine

44:49

should be based on clinical judgment. You go

44:51

to a doctor. They know you. They know

44:53

everything about you. They said they're like care

44:55

for you. They should be able to make

44:57

a decision that you should or should not

44:59

receive. This medicine put on My virtually every

45:01

other area of medicine will rely on the

45:03

clinical judgment of doctors to treat patients that

45:06

size. Of vaccines that is taken away

45:08

in her some every state. Where

45:10

it has a mandate, the mandate the

45:12

medical exemption is not based on clinical

45:14

judgment is based on a predetermine list

45:16

me by the government. Over

45:18

at the Cdc call the Cdc contra de

45:20

case of causes us. And. In fact,

45:22

knowledge they have a list. Of

45:24

things that they say, you can get

45:26

an exemption medical center for which is

45:28

extraordinary. Barrel typically requires you to have

45:30

been injured by the same vaccine before.

45:32

okay. But as they have

45:35

a longer list of all the things they say, Pardon.

45:37

That definitely Not. Contraindications of precautions

45:40

including a you put the example there

45:42

You can review it later for details.

45:45

You. Know, for example, it provides that essentially.

45:48

A book Peronist two children. One of them gets

45:50

a detail vaccine and die from it. That's

45:53

not good enough for an exemption for their other

45:55

top. Next lot. Of

45:59

on I. That is

46:01

why we are promoting a bill that

46:03

is intended to take

46:05

medical exemptions and convert it out

46:08

of being something that is rote and putting

46:10

it back in the hands of doctors so that

46:13

it does come down to clinical

46:15

judgment of the doctor. It should be left between

46:17

the doctor and their patient of whether

46:20

or not the medical exemption

46:22

should be valid, not left up to

46:24

some bureaucrats. Next slide.

46:27

This is something I call an informed consent

46:29

exemption. It doesn't exist anywhere in America. There

46:32

is no such thing as an informed consent

46:34

exemption to mandates, but it

46:36

is something that I think should exist. So I'm going

46:38

to quickly go over it. A lot of people say,

46:40

well, I don't have any convictions against vaccines. I

46:43

don't have any medical reason for it. And

46:45

if some of you may know the Seinfeld reference, you

46:48

know, what about the rest of us, right? What

46:51

about those of us who are subject to

46:53

mandate, have no medical reason not to vaccinate,

46:55

no conviction or religious reason not

46:58

to vaccinate, and those are the only exemptions

47:00

available. What about the fact that we

47:02

don't like that we can't see

47:04

the manufacturer, we don't like to clean up the

47:06

file, we don't like some of the basic facts,

47:08

right? We're parents, we want to safeguard our children. And

47:11

so this is a bill we've been working on, and you

47:13

can see some of the states that actually it's been proposed,

47:15

and it's not been tasked anywhere yet, and

47:17

we're working on having it proposed. It's

47:20

called an act to increase vaccine competence.

47:23

And the reason that this bill should increase

47:25

vaccine competence is that what it provides is

47:27

that there should always

47:29

be an exemption available to

47:31

any mandate if there

47:34

isn't a vaccine that meets certain very minimal

47:36

criteria. This way,

47:38

the elected representatives in every

47:40

state can assure their constituents, look,

47:44

we're putting our money where our mouth is. Don't

47:48

worry. Every vaccine that you're mandated to get, you'll

47:51

never, never be in a position

47:53

where you can't say no. Okay, you'll

47:55

always be able to say no, if there isn't

47:58

a vaccine That doesn't meet. For

48:00

minimum requirements are just read you the

48:02

title and act to increase their and

48:04

confidence. The. Purposes of ushers the

48:06

public that an exemption exist for require

48:08

vaccines that should not be certain minimum

48:11

requirements. The justification that adding this exemption

48:13

will increase confidence Mandated vaccines and the

48:15

text provides that notwithstanding any of the

48:17

law. A person who is required

48:20

to receive vaccine for any purpose may claim

48:22

an from the vaccine or com if there's

48:24

not a vaccine approved by the Us. The

48:26

A to fulfill the requirements of meets the

48:29

following criteria for simple criteria One. Six.

48:31

Per could fall yes there were lot of

48:34

parts of we the vaccine evaluated say he

48:36

probably is one year after was administered against

48:38

the control group that only receive either a

48:40

placebo. For. Another vaccine licenses

48:43

providers. Paragraph many the other vaccines

48:45

license. One. Your seats view as

48:47

possible to drop. Basic.

48:50

I. And. The To. The

48:53

department posts and a subset the injuries or diseases

48:55

cause I have I seen in the rate at

48:57

which the injured disease a curse the vaccine three.

48:59

The risk a permanent disability or death for the

49:01

vaccine has been proven to be less than that

49:04

caused by the infection. It isn't had to prevent

49:06

which of course exist for every vaccine. No.

49:09

Legislative that to be opposed to that. And

49:11

for the vaccines manufacturer has liability for the

49:13

deaths and serious injuries. Have any Cosmo that

49:16

scene which of course we know. Is.

49:18

The case you know we we can all

49:20

be confident that Manufacture Sam buy their products.

49:23

So. As long as it's for, conditions are met. Okay,

49:26

fine. But. If they're not met, you

49:28

get sick, Claim an exemption. Part. Of

49:30

the reason what that does it takes it also

49:32

out. Of. You can. It is this

49:34

thing that if this is part of the law

49:37

of any state, You. Know people

49:39

can quibble over religious beliefs and

49:41

quibble over medical exemptions. But

49:43

he creates an exemption has also facing

49:45

some minimal safety standards. Is. Actually

49:47

less the see it as puts the discussion

49:50

about the science about said the best clinical

49:52

trials. In a way that I think as

49:54

productive. And. So I was doesn't Just I

49:56

do think there should be enough of says exemptions and

49:58

this is A and and. The that big part

50:01

of it's called the Medical Liberty Pledge. Lot

50:03

of wonderful representatives here in Arizona signed it.

50:05

It's very simple pledge the Scout

50:07

one sentence that basically says that

50:09

i it as elected representatives. Elected

50:12

representative hereby pledged not to. You know

50:14

both family law that's going to course

50:16

any or mended any medical products. Hard

50:19

to say Over three hundred fifty elected

50:21

representatives. Are around the country or

50:23

or and a few running for office

50:25

of Scientists pledged in statehouses around the

50:27

country. And they should

50:30

be commended for doing that. So I

50:32

read Maya my Pin Sweet earlier. Ah,

50:35

I won't read it again because we're closer at

50:37

a time, but it basically says mandates of the

50:39

Police and they really are. Mandates really

50:42

are only needed When something's not safe or

50:44

effective, you can persuade of the merits. You.

50:47

Know we consume. Does your products all day

50:49

long with food water? Nobody needs courses to

50:51

do it. The only game in

50:53

each course people when there's questions about seat next

50:55

to see like over ninety. that says. You

50:59

shouldn't need an exemption. You really shouldn't.

51:01

You. Need to be able to convince people on

51:03

the merits and it's you. Can't come, It's not

51:05

America and that's been and of discussion. Here

51:08

is. How we vexing. You.

51:11

Can only get two percent. Of. Their.

51:13

It is. People. Have spoken. That's.

51:15

Freedom. And. Most you want to

51:17

get them are Mmr vaccine great? That's freedom to They

51:20

should be able to convince them on the merits. Of

51:22

let people choose. To. Finish.

51:26

Boy people. But we.

51:28

Live in a world where there are

51:30

mandates And while that semantics is this,

51:33

exemptions really are. The. Last find it

51:35

a sense of the last line of defense if you

51:37

have an issue. And so it makes

51:39

a critically important. That. We have

51:41

sure that those man exemptions remain a place.

51:43

And one of the ways you can everybody can do

51:45

that. we listening to do that. In

51:48

in Arizona in every state around the country is.

51:50

Take this presentation and if nothing else,

51:54

Show your own make them point with your

51:56

late your state rep, elected representatives. They.

51:58

Love women your neck consider. Today I

52:00

do. They think they love it when they

52:02

hear Pyxis with a solid air, but he's

52:04

running into the state representatives offs his everyday

52:06

right? And when a constituent especially three or

52:08

four so up it's like wow, you're they

52:11

are okay. What do you want to sell

52:13

me. Some. Of them are

52:15

most mandated vaccines don't preventive Texas as

52:17

listen to show them that if nothing

52:19

else so than how illiberal. Rights

52:21

crossing. That would be to get rid of. Excess.

52:24

Is let alone have the bandit. Keep

52:26

them in. Certainly. No.

52:29

Get rid of exemption because there is

52:31

a concerted effort around the country right

52:33

now, but pharmaceutical lobbyists and the farm

52:35

industry and others. To. Eliminate

52:37

exemptions. Everywhere in America.

52:40

And we have to make sure that. We. Are fight

52:43

against that. They are organized and they do that.

52:47

Fighting. It's going to require everybody stepping

52:49

up and going to go local representatives. And

52:52

Elise showing them the information that that that

52:54

some information I showed here are numerous. Other

52:56

presentations are given if you're. If

52:58

you're inclined to citroen, thank you. Thank.

53:09

You. Mr. Series since you very much

53:11

thank you for having me. when did it

53:13

really really be it? It is very. Important.

53:15

I mean there's so much information that that isn't

53:18

out so that we didn't know. In.

53:20

Its on our government's website that we're

53:22

not been told that system a son

53:24

and I think that that doesn't do

53:26

justice for anyone. So. Again,

53:29

yeah well. nobody's got a financial interest to tell

53:31

you the some soup humvees of billions of dollars

53:34

make every year they're not in. it's just tell

53:36

you in the. Federal. Health Authority

53:38

mandate as at would strip sounds of the

53:40

state Health department store funded to with a

53:42

federal dollars in large part for the programs.

53:44

Have. A actually or sessler required

53:46

to promote these products. And

53:49

they several have thirties have the have steak

53:51

the reputation. on these products they

53:53

sought after they recommended mandate kind

53:55

of hard to go back and

53:57

say oops after they've done right

54:00

So, you know, their promotion efforts and their

54:02

defense effort in the vaccine court. Totally

54:04

overtaken any safety functions that

54:07

that they've that they

54:09

have. Unfortunately, is there anything that anyone would

54:11

like to say in closing? Sure,

54:15

I'd love to say something down there and we'll

54:17

make our way our way down. Yeah. Hey,

54:21

Arizona, it's great to be here. I'm heading back

54:23

to Texas tomorrow and back to the Rio Grande,

54:26

but. Just

54:28

remember this that there's a saying at 40

54:30

BC, here, I'll cleat this wrote this of

54:32

the Spartans that out of

54:34

100 soldiers 10 shouldn't even be here. 80

54:37

or nothing, but targets 9. They're

54:40

the warriors and they the battle make and the 1 the

54:43

1 is a leader and leave the others

54:45

home. I'm asking

54:47

at least be the 9 or the 1. And

54:49

this isn't about putting on a uniform a military

54:52

and from this is in your whatever walk of

54:54

life you're in. Be a

54:56

leader stand up, be an

54:58

advocate for those that are oppressed and

55:00

stand in the gap. Because if

55:04

it comes again, where

55:06

I live, it won't not on

55:08

my watch. Oh,

55:11

I'm

55:13

going

55:16

to finish and conclude by just citing 1

55:18

more piece of information, which I think is

55:20

the most important paper. That I'm

55:22

aware of has come out in the last year and

55:24

the 1st author is smelling and colleagues

55:26

from Denmark and had a chance to talk to

55:28

1 of the authors. Regarding

55:31

the data 1st hand, so I feel very

55:33

confident in what they found. They

55:35

found of all the people who took the

55:37

cover 19 vaccines. 30% of

55:40

people had 0 side effects,

55:42

not even a sore arm. And

55:45

many of you have taken the vaccines,

55:48

your family members, you're worried about them.

55:51

Those who had no initial symptoms and

55:53

now we're 2 years into it and

55:55

they are perfectly fine. Every

55:57

bit of information we have suggest they're

55:59

fine. and they

56:01

probably got a shot that

56:04

had relatively little messenger RNA in

56:06

it or it was free of

56:09

other problems. That's a

56:11

third. It's a third of the batches. Just

56:13

under two-thirds of the batches there

56:16

was some moderate side effects. Got a

56:18

sore arm, felt sick initially,

56:22

and nothing else ever happened. And

56:24

we're now two years into it. It looks like

56:26

nothing will happen honestly. And

56:28

then there's a final batch, 4.2%

56:31

of all the doses, where

56:33

the initial reaction was pretty severe. People

56:35

had a sore arm. They felt pretty

56:38

sick. They couldn't go to work the

56:40

next day. It's in that group

56:43

that we're seeing the side effects

56:45

emerge later on. The myocarditis, blood

56:47

clots, immune system

56:49

abnormalities. But the initial

56:51

reaction seems to really matter. So

56:54

what I ask my patients all the time, they

56:56

ask me, Dr. McCullough, I took the vaccine. I'm

56:58

fine. Do I have to worry? I start

57:01

with the very first thing. Did you feel any of these

57:03

shots or were they essentially like

57:05

taking nothing? That's the first

57:07

point. So all of you have taken the

57:10

shots or you're worried about your family members,

57:12

your friends, ask about the initial symptoms. It

57:14

really appears to matter. There are

57:16

websites that say, how bad is my batch? You

57:18

can actually look up your lot number on a

57:21

website and see how it's

57:23

rank ordered. Some of them are ranked from

57:25

one to over 150 of

57:28

batches and one can get an idea

57:30

how many side effects have come in

57:32

on each one of the batches through

57:34

the reporting system. Those are rough proxies

57:37

of whether or not you have anything to

57:39

worry about. Those individuals

57:41

with symptoms, though, that actually have symptoms,

57:43

they feel sick after the vaccines and

57:45

it's roughly 15% in total of people

57:48

who've taken

57:52

the shot feel sick. And again, I think

57:54

a smaller subset is at risk for severe

57:57

illness. They probably should see

57:59

doctors. who are developing

58:02

skills in helping people

58:04

go through what's called detoxification or at

58:06

least treating the vaccine injury

58:08

syndromes. And they're popping up all over the

58:11

United States. And

58:13

so I want people to understand

58:15

the message is a large

58:18

fraction of people thankfully are

58:21

fine. It's now been

58:23

over two years since they've taken the shots and

58:25

they're fine. There's a smaller

58:27

group who have had

58:30

high risk batches, symptoms initially,

58:33

or have ongoing symptoms now or

58:35

have had one or more catastrophic

58:38

events. We've heard about one today by Ms. Garner.

58:41

Those individuals we need to focus our

58:43

attention on from a medical concern and

58:45

ongoing surveillance and protection problem. I'm Dr.

58:47

Peter McCullough. Those are my thoughts. Thank

58:49

you. Thank you. Thank you, McCullough.

58:54

Senator Schill. Thank you, Madam

58:57

Chair. Thank you to our panel who is

58:59

here today and for the information that

59:02

was disseminated to those of

59:04

us who are here. I just want

59:06

to thank the chair for putting

59:08

this on again. I know that she

59:11

works very hard and our staff who you see in

59:13

front of us works

59:15

extremely hard on

59:18

putting those together. So I

59:20

definitely want to thank them as well. But

59:24

much like the first one,

59:26

this has been very informational. I

59:29

appreciate, as

59:31

I mentioned, the doctors being here

59:33

and helping with the information, especially

59:35

what was just last discussed. Because

59:38

I think that even if

59:41

this room is made up of

59:43

people who perhaps chose not to,

59:45

odds are you are

59:47

related to somebody who did. And

59:50

you need to hear that information as well. So

59:54

with that, I want to thank the

59:56

chair one more time for putting this

59:58

together and look forward to. A

1:00:00

future discussion on purpose. Of

1:00:09

shirt. I guess

1:00:11

I'll conclude by. By. Maybe I'll. That.

1:00:15

Point out really the importance

1:00:17

of. Be. Able to

1:00:19

have informed consent given a theme of the day. Medical.

1:00:22

Freedom. Of a really

1:00:24

really is a fundamental right because.

1:00:27

If. You know, even if you love

1:00:29

every vaccine right now, you love mask new

1:00:31

love. Staying at home orders. By

1:00:33

you have it all. At that they're.

1:00:36

A threat to America should be free to

1:00:39

get three shots a day. Where. Sixteen

1:00:41

Mass Live in your basement never lead as

1:00:43

fine. As freedom. What?

1:00:45

Happens in the day comes when there's a products.

1:00:48

That. You don't want to receive. That.

1:00:52

You're. Like know, But.

1:00:55

Then you can't get a job. You

1:00:57

can go to school, you take it on

1:00:59

public transportation. If you

1:01:01

don't stand up now for this right then you

1:01:03

won't have any rights. Because it's

1:01:05

you can't get a job and you can go

1:01:07

to school. You temperatures been civil society. What?

1:01:09

Good all your other rights. See.

1:01:12

A Freedom of Speech by something your house him

1:01:14

assembly base up in your house. A pretty the

1:01:16

wall from religion by yourself. You. Can't

1:01:18

dissipate and civil society. That's

1:01:20

how we never let our rights be

1:01:23

contingent or what. Some. All. Birds.

1:01:26

Agency. Government Health

1:01:28

Authority says. We.

1:01:31

Should never be coerced mandates you

1:01:33

products. Nieto is convinced keep

1:01:35

on the merits side to scandal stress.

1:01:38

Go. Meet with your like to represent that is. Everybody

1:01:41

explain to them the importance of

1:01:44

this right? And why Even

1:01:46

if they love every vaccine, A should

1:01:48

stand on the side. freedom. Form

1:01:51

consent and individuals civil rights and

1:01:53

choice. Thank

1:02:01

you, Madam Chair. And I

1:02:04

do want to start also echoing

1:02:06

and starting my comments by thanking

1:02:09

you, Madam Chair, for your heart. I've been

1:02:11

behind the scenes. I can, we've

1:02:14

had these conversations with Senator Shope, with

1:02:16

Chairman Shope and yourself, and your

1:02:18

heart really does shine as to doing

1:02:20

this. And so I do want to

1:02:22

thank you for carrying it out. I

1:02:25

do want to say really quick, I

1:02:28

want to thank the Chairman of

1:02:30

the Senate Health Committee as well, Senator

1:02:32

Shope, for your help in

1:02:34

lending your time, your expertise, and

1:02:37

the authority to do this as well.

1:02:39

You know, both the Senate and the

1:02:41

House, we've had these conversations where it's

1:02:43

important for us, for this information. Let's

1:02:45

talk about it. This is the greatest,

1:02:48

I believe this may be a matter

1:02:50

of opinion, but it's true. This

1:02:53

is the greatest country on the face of the

1:02:55

planet. And what makes us, one of the reasons it

1:02:57

makes us so great is because the flow

1:02:59

of information and communication, the First

1:03:02

Amendment. And so I want

1:03:04

to, I do want you to know that it's hard to do

1:03:06

this, Dr. McCullough. Thank

1:03:09

you for lending yourself to, I know

1:03:12

that all this is out of

1:03:14

your heart and is to inform the public. Dr. Chambers,

1:03:16

thank you for being here

1:03:18

as well and providing us with

1:03:20

tremendous information and, Esquire,

1:03:23

Sherry, thank you

1:03:25

for being here. Honestly, it's powerful

1:03:27

information that it goes to the heart of

1:03:30

choice. And I'll say

1:03:32

a little bit about that more, but thank you for everything that

1:03:34

you're doing as well to inform the public. I'll

1:03:37

say that clearly based on the

1:03:39

information that we've heard today and

1:03:41

we've been examining through this committee,

1:03:43

we know that a one size

1:03:45

fits all approach doesn't, does not

1:03:48

work during a medical crisis or

1:03:51

ever, quite frankly, government

1:03:53

should not be infringing on the

1:03:55

rights of individuals to make their

1:03:57

own healthcare decisions. And

1:04:01

I'm often asked

1:04:03

why this, you know, why we

1:04:05

need to bring this up over

1:04:07

and over. Well, government

1:04:09

has an obligation to be

1:04:11

honest and straightforward with the

1:04:14

public, no matter

1:04:16

what the situation is. That's

1:04:19

something that I take seriously. We want to

1:04:21

make sure whether you agree with me or

1:04:23

not, that you are, government

1:04:26

should be transparent and

1:04:29

share with you all that information so that you

1:04:31

can make those decisions. This is what we

1:04:34

experienced with COVID-19 was an

1:04:36

experimental vaccine that was forced

1:04:38

on the masses without care

1:04:41

about how it would impact the future

1:04:43

of health or their future health.

1:04:48

I, we should be

1:04:50

able to find a way to address this or

1:04:53

any future pandemic without infringing

1:04:55

on people's rights. I'll

1:04:58

tell you that today I heard some comments that

1:05:00

really impacted me. Dr.

1:05:02

Chambers, when you said it's

1:05:04

not about the science, it's about the

1:05:06

policy, that was piercing. That's

1:05:09

not, that's something that should never be

1:05:11

uttered in an American system

1:05:14

of governance. It's

1:05:17

heartbreaking to hear that, especially

1:05:21

when two years later, those

1:05:24

mandates are gone.

1:05:26

It is no longer required

1:05:28

for you to join the military to get

1:05:30

a vaccine. Why? Because it was

1:05:32

an experiment. And

1:05:34

this is where I'll finish with this by

1:05:36

saying policy matters so

1:05:39

much. And as legislators,

1:05:42

we aren't here to force our activism

1:05:46

on people. We're

1:05:48

here to protect people's rights to

1:05:51

the arbiters of the oath we take for the

1:05:53

constitution as well. And so the

1:05:56

reason we want to have these type

1:05:58

of hearings is because we also

1:06:00

want to examine what our authority

1:06:02

is as legislators and

1:06:05

within those confines how we can make sure

1:06:07

that we're sharing this information and

1:06:09

protecting people's rights so that they

1:06:12

can make their informed decisions. It's

1:06:14

about choice. And look, for

1:06:16

those of you that are, one thing I

1:06:18

do want to say with my heart is I've noticed,

1:06:21

we've noticed that this has crippled people in

1:06:23

their hearts. Who do they believe? Who do

1:06:25

they trust? And I'm hoping to trust that

1:06:29

that is valuable. And there's people in, you

1:06:31

know, we can bring it light up. There's

1:06:33

people at home that are paralyzed

1:06:36

with fear, not knowing

1:06:38

who to believe. Well, this is why this

1:06:40

committee is here today, so that they can

1:06:42

hear information and make

1:06:44

their own decision. I've said

1:06:47

enough. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you very

1:06:49

much, Rupert. Yes, there you go. Yeah.

1:06:52

Thank you. I think

1:06:54

one last comment, which is I

1:06:56

actually think that holding committees like

1:06:58

this, hearings like this,

1:07:00

help restore trust, hearing from doctors,

1:07:03

will speak the truth, will speak

1:07:05

against what is narrative at incredible

1:07:08

personal cost. And also

1:07:10

having elected representatives, like the three of you up

1:07:13

here, are willing to hold hearings like this. You

1:07:15

should be incredibly commended for doing it. And

1:07:17

I know that it is not easy to

1:07:20

hold hearings and to let people

1:07:22

speak in a public forum that cuts against

1:07:24

what the mainstream believes. I'm sure you're not

1:07:26

with me. I'm just going to friends for

1:07:28

it. So thank you very, very much for

1:07:30

doing it. Wasn't

1:07:37

it cool to get a little bit

1:07:39

of an inside scoop of how Aaron

1:07:41

Siri delivers information when he's in these

1:07:43

trials and court cases that we hear

1:07:46

about the wins, but we don't know

1:07:48

how they're happening. Well, now you get

1:07:50

a sense of how brilliant he really

1:07:52

is. I really want to just thank

1:07:54

Representative Steve Montenegro and Senators Janae Shamp

1:07:56

and TJ Schope that were in the

1:07:58

room there bringing the novel coronavirus. Southwestern

1:08:00

Intergovernmental Committee together. This

1:08:03

is what government should look like. This

1:08:05

is what governance looks like. Bringing ideas

1:08:07

to the table so that people can

1:08:09

be informed and come to a decision.

1:08:11

Come, you know, have a debate on

1:08:13

a topic. I'm so proud of Arizona

1:08:15

for moving this direction. I hope it's

1:08:17

just, you know, the first

1:08:20

state and things that come as we start

1:08:22

to wake up to the truth and get

1:08:24

empowered to be a part of our government.

1:08:27

You know, when it comes to the vaccine program,

1:08:30

I believe in choice. It's your choice to

1:08:32

decide. It's a free country. If you want

1:08:34

to vaccinate, then go right ahead. You're allowed

1:08:36

to do that. But if you do not

1:08:38

believe in this process or in these products

1:08:40

or want to raise your child in,

1:08:43

you know, more of a natural way

1:08:45

with vitamins and good food and exercise,

1:08:47

you should have that right. That's

1:08:50

what we stand for here at the Informed

1:08:52

Consent Action Network, which is the parent of

1:08:55

the high wire. That's our

1:08:57

nonprofit. Informed Consent references the

1:09:00

Nuremberg Code. That's the sort of

1:09:02

code that came out of the

1:09:04

trial of the Nazi doctors. We

1:09:06

decided that no free country should

1:09:08

ever allow any atrocity like that

1:09:10

to happen driven by doctors that

1:09:12

were experimenting and trying vaccines and

1:09:14

drugs and surgeries on innocent children

1:09:17

and people. And so the first

1:09:19

rule of the Nuremberg Code is

1:09:21

the voluntary consent of the patient

1:09:23

is absolutely critical. They should be

1:09:25

informed of all the benefits and

1:09:27

all the potential side effects to

1:09:30

any procedure or product that they get

1:09:32

involved with. And then once they are

1:09:34

fully informed, guess what? They still get

1:09:36

to choose. You don't just inform them

1:09:38

and tell them they don't have any

1:09:40

choice. That wouldn't make any

1:09:42

sense. And that's what these forced mandates

1:09:45

do, especially in these states

1:09:47

that don't have religious

1:09:49

exemptions. And that's about

1:09:52

five states. So that's a part of

1:09:54

our goal right now. We won back

1:09:56

the religious exemption in Mississippi. It's time

1:09:58

to free the five. So the five

1:10:01

holdouts. states, Maine, New York, Connecticut, West

1:10:03

Virginia, and California, we're coming for you.

1:10:06

Freedom does not exist in those states. If

1:10:08

I do not control my body, if we

1:10:10

can't control what is going into our children's

1:10:12

bodies, then we are nothing more than farm

1:10:14

animals. We cannot let that stand. If you

1:10:16

want to be a part of freeing the

1:10:19

five, then why don't you become a recurring

1:10:21

donor now? All it takes

1:10:23

is going up to the top of the screen,

1:10:25

hit the button that says, donate to ICANN, and

1:10:27

then we're asking you to become a

1:10:29

recurring donor. When we go into these

1:10:32

cases, sometimes they're a year long or

1:10:34

even longer, so $24 a month helps

1:10:37

us know how much we have in the

1:10:39

bank and how many cases we can take

1:10:41

on. It's a part of

1:10:44

what we're doing here. Not only do

1:10:46

we present this incredible show, but we

1:10:48

also have this amazing, powerful legal work

1:10:50

that's being done to protect your rights,

1:10:53

your children's rights, and the future rights

1:10:56

of all the citizens of America and

1:10:58

hopefully beyond around the world as I

1:11:00

believe we're a beacon of light and

1:11:02

hope for the rest of the world.

1:11:05

Now, when we look at things like

1:11:07

vaccines, people will try to scare you.

1:11:09

They will say, if you don't vaccinate,

1:11:11

you're going to get people killed. Well,

1:11:13

as Aaron so clearly laid out, so

1:11:15

many of these vaccines don't even stop

1:11:17

you from transmitting the virus to others.

1:11:20

This whole idea of cocooning or

1:11:22

herd immunity really is a bunch

1:11:24

of bunk. In fact, the

1:11:27

opposite is happening. If you are infected

1:11:29

but you don't know it because the

1:11:31

vaccine is taking away your symptoms, then

1:11:33

you are going to be infecting those

1:11:35

that cannot vaccinate themselves. They

1:11:38

will be around you. All these kids

1:11:40

with pertussis are all over the schools.

1:11:42

They're putting everybody at risk, putting their

1:11:44

grandparents at risk, and certainly the immune

1:11:47

suppressed. So much of this story is

1:11:49

changing. And when you think of things

1:11:51

like measles, and there's all sorts of

1:11:54

fear porn going on out there around

1:11:56

measles, here's the facts. The

1:11:58

death rate of measles was one in five. 500,000

1:12:01

in the 1960s in the United States

1:12:03

of America before a vaccine ever came

1:12:05

onto the market. One in 500,000. People

1:12:11

say it's a deadly disease. When reporters say

1:12:13

that to me, I say, really? Then how are

1:12:15

you here telling me that? Because

1:12:17

the truth is, is every one of

1:12:19

our grandparents caught measles. It was one

1:12:21

of the most infectious childhood

1:12:24

illnesses there was. They considered a

1:12:26

trivial childhood illness. There was even

1:12:28

Brady Bunch episodes making fun of

1:12:30

the time when the whole family was getting

1:12:33

the measles. If you have to get sick,

1:12:35

you sure can't beat the measles. That's

1:12:37

right. No medicine. Inside or out, like

1:12:39

shots I made. Don't even mention shots.

1:12:43

Yes! So what's happened?

1:12:45

Has the virus gotten more deadly

1:12:47

or has the news gotten more

1:12:49

propagandized and is trying to make

1:12:51

us afraid? In the

1:12:53

end, we are here on this planet

1:12:55

because measles did not kill any of

1:12:58

our grandparents or we wouldn't be here

1:13:00

talking about it. I think we have

1:13:02

to take that into account when we

1:13:04

think about what we're going to do

1:13:06

and the decisions we're going to make.

1:13:08

Let's put it all on the table.

1:13:10

And in the end,

1:13:12

you get to choose. That's

1:13:14

the high wire is all about fighting

1:13:16

for your rights to vaccinate or not

1:13:19

vaccinate. To be or not to be.

1:13:21

That is the question. And we'll continue to

1:13:23

ask that next week on The

1:13:26

High Wire.

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