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1:01

Morning good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you

1:03

are out there in the world, Stop

1:05

resolved to step out onto the high

1:07

wire. Over. The last several

1:10

weeks we've really been covering a story

1:12

that is unfolding by the day. If

1:14

you think of this is the court

1:16

of public opinion the high wire is

1:19

been laying out a case that began

1:21

really in two thousand and seventeen when

1:23

the show started about fraudulent science around

1:25

vaccines, vaccine safety, vaccine science and then

1:28

cove it hit in played right into

1:30

our hands. We were one of the

1:32

only networks it is laid out from

1:34

the beginning all the fraud as it

1:37

was taking place predicting how it. Would

1:39

and pointing out to you how

1:41

the news was completely misrepresenting the

1:43

known science and the cover it

1:45

was happening from everything from the

1:47

emergency use authorization to the Woo

1:49

Han Lab League. Will. Now

1:51

it is all coming apart at

1:54

the seams and as we predicted

1:56

many years ago, ultimately the rats

1:58

will start jumping ship and. And they'll

2:00

start attacking and turning each other in. It's

2:03

really the basis of what a RICO

2:05

case would be, which is a completely

2:07

corrupt system in which everybody is a

2:10

part of it, everyone is linked to

2:12

another person, and once one domino starts

2:14

falling, they all begin to fall. And

2:17

that is exactly what we're seeing this

2:19

week. And

2:21

the hearings that are taking place in Washington,

2:24

D.C. One of

2:26

the big characters we reported on is

2:28

Francis Collins, the head of the NIH

2:31

throughout COVID. This is a guy that

2:33

always comes across as mild-mannered and soft

2:35

and seems like a sweet guy and

2:37

likes to act like he's really not

2:39

quite aware of everything that is going

2:41

on, especially when he's playing his

2:43

guitar. But this week, he

2:45

was in front of a hearing discussing exactly how

2:47

the hearing would have to go. He

2:50

was asked some questions. They weren't on camera,

2:52

but they were recorded and they've been written down.

2:55

Let's just go through a couple of these questions, the

2:57

answer, shall we? As you get

2:59

to watch, the wheels coming off of

3:02

this ship, exclusive

3:04

former NIH head, Francis Collins,

3:06

admits COVID origins not settled,

3:08

no science to back social

3:11

distance guidance. Well, we've

3:13

already heard that from Tony Fauci, but

3:15

here's how it went. All

3:18

it's calling for is a yes or

3:20

no. Is the possibility of a lab

3:22

leak a conspiracy theory? Collins. Have

3:24

to define what you mean by a lab

3:26

leak. Again, the question,

3:28

putting aside de novo, the possibility

3:31

of a laboratory or research related

3:33

accident, a researcher doing something in

3:35

a lab, getting infected with a

3:37

virus, and then sparking the pandemic.

3:39

Is that scenario a conspiracy theory?

3:42

Collins, not at this point.

3:46

Oh, how things have changed. On

3:48

March 22nd, 2020, the CDC issued

3:50

guidance describing social distancing to include

3:52

remaining out of congregate

3:54

settings, avoiding mass gatherings, and

3:56

maintaining a distance of approximately

3:58

six feet. from others when possible.

4:01

We asked Dr. Fauci where the six feet

4:03

came from and he said it kind of

4:05

just appeared is the quote.

4:07

This is how this is set up.

4:09

Now remember, this is the entire science

4:11

behind locking down our nation for the

4:14

first time ever. The first time we

4:16

have ever quarantined healthy people. Normally a

4:18

quarantine is six people. I mean it

4:21

is among sick people. And

4:23

if you think about the squares

4:25

that were or the circles that were

4:27

pasted on sidewalks outside of stores,

4:29

standing apart, all of this certainly had

4:32

something to do with science or were we

4:34

just some part of a giant grand joke

4:36

and scheme. Well the question

4:38

came before the head of

4:41

the highest funded scientific body

4:43

in America. Do you recall

4:46

science or evidence that supported

4:48

the six foot distance? Collins,

4:51

I do not. Is that

4:53

I do not recall or I

4:56

do not see any evidence supporting

4:58

six feet? Collins, I

5:00

did not see evidence but I'm not

5:02

sure I would have been shown evidence

5:04

at that point. I was not involved

5:07

in that conversation. Final

5:09

question, since then, since

5:11

that moment till now it

5:13

has been an awfully large topic. Have

5:16

you seen any evidence since

5:18

then supporting six feet?

5:21

Collins, no. The entire

5:26

basis of shutting

5:28

down our nation, destroying

5:30

our kids' education, keeping

5:33

them six feet from each other,

5:35

plastic everywhere you go as though

5:38

viruses don't go over plastic. All

5:41

that insanity in restaurants, remember once walking

5:43

through the door forgetting I was supposed

5:45

to be wearing a mask? No! Screams

5:47

the guy behind the bar as he

5:50

jumps over rushing to us, your mask,

5:52

your mask, your mask. I remember putting

5:54

it on. He grabbed three menus,

5:56

turned to a booth four feet

5:58

away, saddest day. down and said,

6:01

now you can take off your masks. We

6:05

all lived through that insanity. And

6:07

even then I was asking, yes, the bartender,

6:09

can you explain that science to me? Knowing

6:12

it did not exist. Well, now

6:15

it's all falling apart because there is no

6:17

science. And the high wire

6:19

stood while we were

6:21

attacked by virtually every major news

6:23

source, saying that we were the

6:25

ones spreading misinformation by saying that

6:27

there was no science behind social

6:29

distancing, that the vaccine would not

6:31

stop transmission, that it looked like

6:34

this could very well be a

6:36

lab leak, lab origin virus, not

6:38

a natural virus for all these

6:40

things were attacked before anyone was

6:42

covering it. And let me

6:44

remind you, in case it seems like Francis

6:46

Collins really didn't have his hands on this

6:48

stuff and was just a bystander at the

6:51

most prestigious, highest funded

6:54

organization or nonprofit, actually not

6:56

a nonprofit government agency, the

6:59

NIH. There's

7:01

just to remind you some of the emails that have

7:03

come through FOIA. This is a government

7:05

official attempts to stifle lab leak hypothesis.

7:08

This is an email from Dr. Francis

7:10

Collins to Tony Fauci. I'm

7:12

wondering if there is something NIH

7:15

can do to help put down

7:17

this very destructive conspiracy with what

7:20

seems to be growing momentum. I

7:24

hope the Nature Medicine article on

7:26

the genomic sequence of SARS-CoV-2 would

7:28

settle this but probably didn't get

7:30

much visibility. Anything more we

7:32

can do? Ask the National Academy

7:34

to weigh in, something like that. Of course, he's

7:37

talking about lab boards. You look at this line,

7:39

wondering if there's something NIH can

7:41

do to help put down

7:44

as though killing an animal. Kill

7:47

this thing now. What can

7:49

the NIH do to kill this

7:51

science right now? That

7:54

sound like unbiased research?

7:57

Sounds very biased to me, going out

7:59

of your way. And when they

8:01

say, well, we probably, he said recently,

8:04

we should, we probably should have had

8:06

more scientists at the table that had

8:08

a different perspective, but we just didn't

8:11

know what was going on. Well, remember

8:13

this that came through for you when

8:15

it came through the great Barrington Declaration

8:18

written by Dr. Martin Koldorf, Dr. Sinatra

8:20

Gupta, Dr. J. Bhattacharya, Oxford, Stanford, Harvard.

8:22

This is what Francis Collins said about

8:25

their proposal that it was going to be

8:27

more dangerous, that there was no science. By

8:29

the way, this is what they're saying. There's

8:31

no science behind making people stand

8:33

six feet apart. There's no science behind locking

8:35

people down. We've never done it before. It's

8:38

going to do more harm than the virus

8:40

itself. This is what he said. This proposal

8:42

from the three fringe epidemiologists from

8:44

some of the most esteemed universities

8:46

in the world who met with

8:48

the secretary seems to be getting

8:50

a lot of attention. Once again,

8:52

he hates these ideas that are

8:55

getting attention and even a co-signature

8:57

from Nobel prize winner Mike Leavitt

8:59

at Stanford. There needs

9:01

to be a quick and devastating published

9:03

takedown once again of its premises. I

9:05

don't see anything like that online yet.

9:07

Is it underway? Can we help? Can

9:10

we be a part of this lie?

9:12

Can we shut down all the science

9:14

that's saying, geez, this sure looks like

9:16

it has lab origin and now in

9:19

testimony, what is he saying? Did you

9:21

ever see evidence? Is

9:23

it really a conspiracy? No. Now

9:27

that none of my emails seem to have

9:29

worked and enough of you investigated it, you

9:32

can't handle the truth. Okay. We

9:34

lied to the world is

9:37

what is happening in Washington DC

9:39

daily mail. There needs to be a

9:41

quick and devastating takedown. Email show how

9:44

Fauci and head of NIH work to

9:46

discredit three experts who penned the great

9:48

Barrington declaration. Now you get it. And

9:51

boy, wait till you see what Jeffrey has

9:53

coming. It's only just the

9:55

beginning. So what's going to happen?

9:58

I believe what we're seeing. is history

10:01

in the making. We're proud here

10:03

at the High Wire to have been on

10:05

this before anyone else was. And those who've

10:07

been watching all this time, you know the

10:10

track record that we have. It's

10:12

not that we're psychic. We weren't

10:14

lucky, as Bill Maher said, we didn't roll

10:16

dice on this. We followed

10:18

science from all around the world.

10:20

We've been delivering science that goes

10:22

back decades that leads to this

10:25

moment that we're at. We've been

10:27

following the trajectory of all the

10:29

interest groups and well-funded nonprofits and

10:31

NGOs have been manipulating the science

10:33

for years. We've shown you how

10:35

that's being done and how it

10:37

all comes together. That's

10:40

what we do here at the High Wire.

10:42

When you think of a conspiracy, a

10:45

small organization deciding to rule the

10:47

world or rule a group of

10:49

people or put forward a lie

10:51

that controls people, I suppose

10:54

is not another theory bigger

10:56

or group bigger than the

10:58

WHO, who as we know

11:00

right now is looking to sign the

11:02

treaty, the Pandemic Treaty in

11:04

order to the proposal for the WHO pandemic

11:06

agreement. We've talked about this a lot. A

11:10

set of rules set out to essentially

11:12

allow them to decide whenever the next

11:14

pandemic is coming. And of course it

11:16

comes along with the international health regulations

11:18

that will kick in the moment they

11:20

say that we're under attack by another

11:22

virus because they got this last one.

11:24

So right. Why not just put them

11:26

in charge of the world? Why don't

11:29

we just take down all the sovereignty

11:31

of every nation because the WHO

11:35

is the one that should be in charge of

11:37

the world when they decide that

11:40

we're in trouble. Well, that

11:42

is all going into hearings and is

11:44

going to be signed or ratified or

11:47

not signed starting this week.

11:50

And at the heart of that is going to be a

11:52

march by people from all over

11:54

the world, just like you, just like me

11:56

saying, Oh hell no. In

12:00

Geneva, Switzerland, you may want to think

12:02

about going, because it's going to look

12:05

something like this. First,

12:30

we will be hosting our inspired global

12:32

leadership summit, where we bring in

12:35

leaders in the freedom movement from

12:37

all around the world to

12:39

begin to do the work

12:42

it takes to reimagine and

12:44

redesign a healthcare system that serves

12:46

the people. A group of

12:48

10 lawyers will inform

12:50

you about the outcome from

12:53

the 77th World Health

12:55

Assembly regarding two pandemic treaties.

12:58

Join us at the We Are The

13:01

Change rally in Geneva. June 1, 2024,

13:03

1.30 pm, plus 10

13:06

o'clock. We will be

13:08

calling our independence ready to take the

13:10

trade from the United Nations Office in

13:12

Geneva. Be there. The

13:33

President's office will be in the center of the

13:35

world. At

13:38

the center of a lot of the work,

13:40

all around the world is an attorney

13:42

that has been just doing incredible work.

13:48

Philip Cruz, who has even come to America to speak

13:50

with the Ron Johnson hearings and is a part of

13:52

really bringing truth in Europe to this entire situation. The

13:56

President is Mr. Philip Cruz. He

14:00

specializes in tax. An unconstitutional

14:03

law is omar from in

14:05

Zurich and is emitted to

14:07

our courts in Switzerland. We

14:09

are here today because we

14:11

are all concerned by the

14:13

World Health Organization's strong preference

14:15

to extends it's powers with

14:17

a permanent effects over discover

14:19

anything of the countries and

14:22

over to self determination of

14:24

the people. Tell me a

14:26

H O is going to

14:28

establish and classical totalitarian structure.

14:30

And wants to make sure

14:33

that the value of the

14:35

national constitution com philo Literally

14:38

every aspect of global life

14:40

can give rise to a

14:43

public health emergency of international

14:45

concern. Whether it is a

14:48

climate change, whether it is

14:50

biodiversity loss or ecosystem, They

14:53

quotations where does it start,

14:55

where does it And they're

14:58

talking about mandatory testing. Methods

15:00

by useless to mandatory

15:02

travel restrictions, mandatory lockdowns,

15:04

mandatory vaccinations with pre

15:06

defined experimental products, Miss

15:08

Karen teams, and so

15:10

on. in May, Twenty

15:13

Twenty four, One Hundred

15:15

Ninety Fourth member states

15:17

of adulthood Oh will

15:19

have their final vote

15:21

on both of these

15:23

international in. This

15:26

process takes place behind closed

15:28

doors and as a tremendous

15:30

speaks only answer to this

15:33

development is a strong know

15:35

and this know must come

15:37

from all the people all

15:40

over the world altogether. Spy.

15:44

On unpleasant be joined by to

15:46

leave cruise right now. Ah I'm.

15:49

I'm. In this is this is a historic moment

15:51

is it not them? in seems really important.

15:54

this is absolutely right gothic save on

15:56

it's first a great honor for me

15:58

to be on We have done

16:01

such a great work during the past four

16:03

years to enlighten people and

16:05

to bring true science to the

16:07

people's homes. And you gave

16:09

hope to so many people. Thank you so much for

16:11

the great work you've been doing. Thank you. Absolutely.

16:14

Yes, that's true. It is truly

16:16

an historic moment because now we

16:19

are right ahead of

16:21

these votes or non-votes.

16:24

We don't know what the 194 member

16:26

states will ultimately decide next week. All

16:29

options are on the table. The

16:32

option of having a vote in favor of

16:34

these two agreements or none of

16:36

them will be voted upon and everything will

16:38

be passed out. There is a

16:41

tremendous tension and a

16:43

tremendous anxiety on the side of

16:46

the VHO. Everything

16:48

is open yet. We see

16:50

a growing number of activists, a

16:53

growing number of members of parliament

16:55

who really, truly oppose these two

16:58

pandemic instruments. When

17:00

does this all begin in Geneva, Switzerland?

17:02

When do they start meeting? It

17:05

starts officially coming Monday, 27th of May.

17:09

Okay. And then it goes all week. And

17:11

so at that point they can start rewriting

17:13

and trying to – I mean, is it

17:15

work sort of like I think about, you

17:17

know, our congressmen or senators get together at

17:19

times and they start rejiggering and trying to

17:21

see what they could all agree on? Is

17:24

that sort of how this process will

17:26

work? Will there be people doing some rewrites

17:28

all week long? It

17:30

could well be. But it shouldn't

17:33

be that way, actually. When we talk

17:35

about the international health regulations, the

17:38

VHO should have submitted to all

17:40

the member states already four months

17:42

ago the final version for the

17:44

vote. That's the rule according to

17:46

the IHR themselves. But they didn't

17:48

do so. And they

17:50

declared to continue negotiation until the

17:52

very last month. That's against

17:55

their own rules. Wow. Now, there

17:57

is some confusion. Maybe We can clear it up.

18:00

It up here there's this sort of

18:02

Wh, a pandemic agreement. Then there's the

18:04

I Hr are or what is a

18:06

difference between these two documents had we

18:08

think of them so that they act

18:10

as a kind of meld together. Even

18:12

here, we haven't really gotten too much

18:14

into detail. but what is the diversity

18:16

in his to to documents? Well.

18:18

Actually, they are technically both international

18:21

agreements as the only new one

18:23

here is the new Condemned treaty.

18:26

Totally new A Christmas. The.

18:29

Two thirds majority for the

18:31

vote to be adopted. The

18:33

other international agreement is the

18:35

International health Regulations, and they

18:37

are under a special regime

18:39

because they are deemed to

18:42

be just technical regulations and

18:44

therefore they have the privilege

18:46

to be adopted just upon

18:48

a fifty one person simple

18:50

majority and able com. Enforced

18:53

by way of automatism you're into

18:55

so only if you truly a

18:57

only technical standards in there but

19:00

if you look at it it

19:02

is much more far reaching and

19:04

Flint's everybody's lives and even sovereignty

19:07

of the government's so these new

19:09

rules should actually not be in

19:12

the I H R is national

19:14

health and are they should actually

19:16

be put into new condemning treaty.

19:19

If actually not, they should be

19:21

seen as rewriting salvage oath own

19:23

constitutions while now and Taser oh

19:25

so sad. You know that this

19:27

is all been overblown on his

19:30

oldest miss. You know information saying

19:32

that we we're the Whr will

19:34

somehow take over national sovereignty. This

19:36

does nothing of the swords or

19:38

what do you same and as

19:40

the same as be making obviously

19:42

or this is falling apart and

19:44

we've been reporting on the fact

19:47

that there's more and more member

19:49

nations. that have been jumping shifts but

19:51

when he says that that's is false

19:53

information and has nothing to do with

19:55

overcoming sovereign nations are taking charge or

19:57

what do you say to that Well,

20:01

on the formalistic point of view, actually

20:03

he is right, because in

20:06

the New Pandemic Treaty you find

20:08

the word sovereignty and

20:10

wording which seems to

20:12

protect sovereignty quite a few times.

20:15

And also you find in the

20:17

International Health Regulations re-introduced the protection

20:20

of human rights. But

20:22

just by putting the words into

20:24

these agreements doesn't mean that sovereignty

20:27

and human rights are truly protected.

20:29

So here's my critics. One

20:32

of the most fundamental powers

20:35

WHO will formally

20:37

receive is to determine what

20:39

will be the decision making basis

20:41

for governments, what will be the

20:43

decision making basis for doctors and for

20:46

individuals. They will be allowed to

20:48

determine where does the threat

20:50

come from, what kind of threat does

20:52

it is, whether people are sick or

20:54

not, how to measure it, and what

20:56

will be the solution. So

20:58

think of it, if all the

21:01

relevant elements of decision making are

21:03

predefined by an international organization and

21:05

you are not allowed to take

21:07

into account your own expertise,

21:09

your own good scientists, that

21:12

is an element of depriving or

21:15

giving up sovereignty. Here

21:17

it is, the point, technically

21:20

speaking, yes, it's not actually

21:22

WHO who takes away our

21:24

sovereignty, but our leaders are

21:26

about to give it away,

21:28

to allow WHO to deliver

21:30

the decision making basis for

21:35

their countries. And that will

21:37

lead us into disaster because if

21:39

we are in the future, continue to

21:41

be told, oh look, danger is

21:43

coming from the left, but you will

21:45

be safe if you run to the right, everybody

21:48

will run to the right. So

21:50

there is a form of control without

21:53

the wording of legally

21:55

binding recommendations and that

21:57

is truly dangerous. I

22:00

mean, we always think the concept of failing

22:02

forward right now, we have essentially

22:04

world dictators failing their way into control.

22:06

I mean, when I look at how

22:08

the pandemic was handled, overstating

22:11

the death rate from the very beginning, which

22:13

ended up being 0.35%. And

22:17

that mostly was in a very

22:19

specific group of elderly that had

22:21

previous health conditions that made

22:24

them vulnerable. The idea that we

22:26

gave the vaccine just this week,

22:29

Robert Redfield at the CDC said that he

22:31

knew the vaccine was problematic and no one under the

22:33

age of 50 probably should

22:36

have received this. And yet where

22:38

was the WHO? Where was the WHO on any

22:40

of this? All the social distancing,

22:42

all the lockdowns, none of it now based

22:44

in science. I'm sure you're watching these incredible

22:46

hearings in Washington DC right

22:48

now where all of this evidence is

22:50

coming forward. You realize the

22:53

amount of lying and sabotage and

22:55

fraud that was taking place. I'm

22:58

going to be getting into that in just a minute, but tell me now

23:00

about this event. What is taking place in

23:03

Switzerland, in Geneva, and if people want

23:05

to attend, just tell me about

23:08

what we can expect from

23:10

really the right side of this conversation,

23:12

those that will be there to resist

23:16

the WHO power grab. Yes,

23:19

so the whole event is designed

23:21

to send out a strong signal

23:23

into the world. We

23:25

declare our independence from Delvijo.

23:28

They have deceived us. They

23:30

did not perform their constitutional

23:32

duty to protect people's health.

23:34

They did quite the opposite.

23:36

So thereby, therefore, we declare

23:38

our independence in Geneva. The

23:41

main event will be on the 1st

23:43

of June. Yes. And here

23:45

we see the road to Geneva. So that's

23:48

a great call to everybody. Take

23:50

your car or whatever transport

23:52

you have, go on your way

23:54

to Geneva. And

23:56

there is on that homepage very well

23:58

described where you can... and land

24:00

where we will find

24:02

safe places with your car, hotel and

24:05

so on. And that's organized

24:07

by Dan Astin Gregory, the great

24:10

British journalist. And

24:12

then before the main event,

24:14

there will be on Friday, 31st of May, this

24:18

global inspired summit with great people

24:20

coming there and having

24:22

their discussions about how

24:24

does the future look like. How

24:27

do we want to rewrite

24:29

the future in public health

24:31

with great people coming? And

24:34

then on Saturday morning, the

24:36

lawyers, seven, eight lawyers from different

24:38

countries will hold their

24:40

press conference, give an analysis of what

24:43

has been concluded by

24:45

the WHOA World Health Assembly and

24:48

what shall we take from it. And

24:50

then the main event starts in

24:52

the afternoon, Saturday, 1st of June, in

24:55

Geneva, plus the National, half past

24:57

one. And we will

24:59

have a tremendous great list of speakers

25:02

starting with Aasim

25:05

Malhotra. Maybe you

25:07

will come as well. I'm going

25:09

to be there. I've just rejiggered

25:11

my entire schedule. When are you

25:14

going to see all of these

25:16

people in one place? This is

25:19

what it's all about. Huge, huge

25:21

lineup. Absolutely. I would miss this

25:23

for the world. Organize

25:27

all of that by the phenomenal

25:29

ladies, Maria Houtmar-Mock,

25:32

Susie Olsen and Dr.

25:34

Andreas Naserenko. And

25:37

you have seen the list of speakers. It is

25:39

quite a challenge to put them all on stage,

25:41

one after the other. It's going

25:43

to be a long day. Some of the

25:45

most long-winded geniuses the world has ever seen.

25:49

I know they're going to try to be contained. I

25:51

also want to let everyone know, look, if you can get

25:53

there, this is one of those moments. This is history in

25:55

the making. This is international history, where we actually

25:57

get to stand up and make a difference.

26:00

difference. It's time to really let our

26:02

voices be heard. But if you cannot

26:04

be there, obviously it's a huge lift

26:06

for a lot of people, we will

26:08

be streaming live at thehighwire.com, all the

26:11

events on Saturday starting at 6.30 a.m.

26:14

Central here in America. So just tune in

26:16

to the High Wire to see all of

26:18

these great speakers speaking for

26:20

you, standing for truth and justice as

26:22

Philip Cruz has been fighting for

26:25

so long there. I look forward to

26:27

seeing you out there. And

26:30

this is what it's all about. I feel

26:34

buzzed about it. And you really

26:36

couldn't beat the timing. We're marching

26:38

into Geneva while they're trying to

26:40

say we deserve the power. And

26:42

here in America, hearings are uncovering

26:44

that this entire thing may be

26:46

one of the greatest science disasters

26:49

in history, perhaps one of

26:51

the biggest crimes ever conducted on the world.

26:53

I look forward to seeing you there and

26:55

discussing all of those things. Hopefully many people

26:57

will be able to join us. Sal

27:00

Vectry, I look forward to seeing you there. It will

27:02

be a great honor and pleasure to seeing you and

27:04

to see everybody there as well. Thank you so much

27:06

for the invitation. All right. See you soon. Take care.

27:09

All right. Well, I mean, we've just, it's

27:12

really amazing that we're coming to this point.

27:14

As you've been watching, we've been reporting WHO,

27:16

the wheels are really coming off this thing.

27:19

It's going to be amazing how they try

27:21

to put it all back together You

27:25

know, I've got a huge show

27:27

coming up. We got Mickey Willis

27:30

is coming in with his secret

27:32

weapon. The musician behind, Plantemic the

27:34

musical is another huge screening scheduled.

27:36

Of course, I'm talking about Deepak.

27:39

There's another huge event scheduled

27:41

here in Austin. If you want to

27:43

check it out. And I'm going to

27:45

interview Nate Jones, which is, he's, you

27:47

know, the founder of one

27:49

of the most successful natural health

27:52

companies, clear, which is the xylitol

27:54

based nasal spray. The federal government is now

27:56

suing him. I imagine you

27:59

can guess why. but he is standing

28:01

his ground where many people have bowled over

28:03

or walked away. He's taken

28:05

on that fight. We're going to get into

28:07

those details, but first it's time for the

28:09

Jackson report. All

28:22

right, Jeffrey, these are some amazing

28:24

moments we live in right now.

28:28

So for anybody that's been paying attention, especially over

28:30

these last two weeks, it's becoming clear that we

28:32

are watching perhaps the greatest public health scandal

28:39

of our time from the U S government. What am I

28:41

talking about? Well, let's just go right into this and unpack

28:43

it because we have a lot of work to do here

28:45

today. Let's look at Lawrence Tabak. Lawrence Tabak took over from

28:47

Francis Collins

28:51

as acting director of the National Institutes of

28:53

Health at the height of the

28:56

pandemic. He was brought before

28:58

the select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic

29:00

last week and well, just check

29:02

it out. Dr.

29:04

Tabak did NIH fund gain

29:06

of function research at the Wuhan Institute of

29:10

Virology through echo health. It

29:13

depends on your definition of gain of

29:15

function research. If you're

29:18

speaking about the generic term,

29:21

yes, we did. If

29:23

you're speaking about the dictionary description,

29:25

if you wanted to go to

29:27

Tony Fauci's word salad description and

29:29

maybe not some, I

29:32

mean, like, I don't know what generic is

29:34

supposed to mean. I guess the general term.

29:36

Yeah. Okay. Uh, the buck stops

29:38

here. And

29:40

it's interesting because everyone's coming forward with these admissions.

29:42

Some of these are in emails. Some of these

29:44

are like Dr. Tabak just said,

29:46

they're just coming forward. And it's interesting too,

29:48

that, you know, just a couple of weeks

29:50

ago, the New York times and others have

29:52

really just turned and started talking about vaccine

29:54

injury and starting reporting on these things. So

29:56

they're here to catch this narrative as well.

29:58

So you can look. These are the headlines

30:00

that are being created from the New York Post, from

30:03

that Lawrence Tabak interview, NIH

30:05

official finally admits taxpayers funded gain

30:07

of function research in Wuhan after

30:09

years of denial. And

30:11

so things move pretty fast here. The

30:13

remaining semblance of sanity in the U.S.

30:15

government is acting on these developments. So

30:18

if you're EcoHealth Alliance, you received a

30:20

letter in the mail just last week

30:22

from the Department of Health and Human

30:24

Services, that is the overseeing agency, overseeing

30:27

NIH, NIAID, and it looked

30:29

like this. It says, this

30:31

is to provide notification that on behalf

30:33

of the United States Department of Health

30:36

and Human Services, HHS, I have suspended

30:38

and proposed four Department EcoHealth Alliance incorporated

30:40

from participating in the United States federal

30:43

government procurement and procurement programs. So

30:45

they are suspending them. They are no

30:47

longer able, that organization is no longer

30:49

able to use tax dollars, American tax

30:52

dollars, to fund these experiments. Just

30:54

this week, just a couple days ago, Peter

30:57

Daszak, the head of EcoHealth

30:59

Alliance, received the same letter.

31:01

So now his organization and

31:03

he himself have been suspended

31:06

and they're proposing debarment by the Department

31:08

of Health and Human Services. But interestingly,

31:10

it also says this in both those

31:12

letters, EcoHealth and Daszak, it says, HHS

31:14

believes there is adequate evidence in the

31:16

record for this debarment cause and

31:19

that immediate action is necessary to

31:21

protect the public interest. Wow.

31:23

I mean, this sounds like we're talking

31:26

about a terrorist organization here. So what

31:28

do they know? I mean, they essentially,

31:30

whether on purpose or accidentally, they're building

31:32

bioweapons as we know it, funding, gain

31:34

of function research, taking bird flus

31:37

and trying to make them deadly

31:39

and contagious and taking coronavirus to

31:41

make them deadly and contagious and

31:43

combining them all, making frank and

31:46

viruses and then say, no,

31:48

we didn't do it. And well, now we know we

31:50

did do it. And

31:52

so, I mean, thank God, but you

31:54

know, really it's about time

31:56

we've had two presidents sitting on

31:58

this after probably. probably one of

32:01

the most devastating lab leaks in

32:03

history has taken place. And

32:07

Senator Rand Paul has not been quiet either.

32:09

He's seized on this opportunity this week,

32:11

writing a letter to the Attorney General

32:13

of the United States, Merrick Garland, and

32:15

he is asking Garland this.

32:17

He says, I write to urge the

32:20

U.S. Department of Justice DOJ to open

32:22

an investigation into the alleged improper concealment

32:24

and intentional destruction of records by Dr.

32:26

David Moran, Senior Advisor to the Director

32:29

at the National Institutes of Health. Dr.

32:31

Morin has had several

32:33

emails that have been publicly released

32:36

now. He also just went before

32:38

committee and testified regarding these emails.

32:41

But let's not hear from him. Let's hear from his

32:43

emails when he thought no one was watching. So

32:45

let's go right into this. Now this email here,

32:47

this first one, is from April of 2020. And

32:51

this is from Dr. Morin's NIH

32:53

to Peter Daszak, Head

32:56

of EcoHealth Alliance. It says this, this

32:58

is sent from my Gmail account. Please send

33:00

all replies here to Gmail. So right there,

33:03

Gmail can't be FOIA requested. So he's

33:05

trying to conceal it right there. He

33:07

says, I have let Tony know, but

33:09

have not spoken to him directly. There

33:11

are things I can't say except Tony

33:13

is aware and I have learned that

33:15

there are ongoing efforts within NIH to

33:17

steer through this with minimal damage to

33:19

you. Let's talk to Peter Daszak, Peter

33:21

and colleagues, and to NIH and NIAID.

33:24

No guarantees, but let us hope. I imagine

33:26

this will be handled at the level of

33:28

Francis and Tony within NIH and I don't

33:31

expect to be in a loop. What's he

33:33

talking about? Well, if you look at the subject

33:35

of that email, it says actions needed regarding, and

33:37

there's a grant number. You type that

33:40

grant number in and this is what comes up.

33:43

Understanding the risk of bat coronavirus

33:45

emergence. This is EcoHealth Alliance work.

33:47

They received millions of dollars from

33:49

NIH on this. And this

33:51

is what they're trying to conceal. This is what

33:53

they're trying to hide and this is what they're

33:55

trying to damage control in this

33:57

email. He's assuring Peter Daszak that all

34:00

this funding that we gave you for

34:02

the bat coronavirus emergent research that you

34:04

did in the Wuhan Institute of Virology,

34:06

we're going to bat for you. So

34:08

don't worry about that. And it goes

34:10

further. So check out this email. So

34:12

this is from Peter. This is again

34:14

from Dr. Morin's to Peter Dajek. And

34:16

he says this, Peter, from Tony's numerous

34:18

recent comments to me and from what

34:20

Francis have been vocal about over the

34:22

past five years, they are trying to

34:24

protect you, which also which

34:26

also protects their own reputations.

34:29

Wow. This is this is

34:32

the United States government. This is NIH

34:34

highest officials talking to

34:36

Peter Dajek. Basically, someone

34:38

just received grant money. Do they go to

34:40

bat that hard for everybody? And now let's

34:42

go into the FOIA requests, Freedom of Information

34:44

Act request, something that ICANN

34:46

has masterfully used over the years. And

34:49

this is actually the government's website

34:51

on FOIA, the US government's website

34:53

says since 1967, the Freedom of

34:55

Information Act FOIA has provided the

34:57

public the right to request access

34:59

to records from any federal agency,

35:02

as Congress, the president and the Supreme

35:04

Court have all recognized the FOIA is

35:06

a vital part of our democracy. If

35:09

you turn on any mainstream channel, they're

35:11

going on and on about saving our

35:13

democracy. So keep that in mind. It's

35:15

a vital part of our democracy. Now,

35:17

let's see how Dr. David Morin treats

35:19

a FOIA, the vital part of our

35:21

democracy in his emails, he says this,

35:24

PS, by the way, this is 2021. He

35:26

says, PS, I forgot to say there's no worry

35:28

about for us. I can either send stuff

35:30

to Tony on his private Gmail, or hand

35:33

it to him at work or at his

35:35

house. He is too smart to let colleagues

35:37

and send him stuff

35:39

that could cause trouble. Wow. Dajek,

35:41

he's writing that. What

35:43

first of all, what Tony Pouchy

35:45

and Francis Colley, who is this

35:47

idiot? Oh my God, who hired

35:49

this moron? I mean,

35:52

you know, friends like this, just

35:54

get the Gmail, I'll be okay.

35:56

Trust me. I'm telling you everything.

35:58

All of it. You know, all the

36:00

Francis's and Tony's secrets, I got it. We could talk

36:03

about it all day long, just do it on Gmail.

36:06

Amazing. And so, it gets

36:10

even worse. This brings us to February 2021, and

36:13

this is David Morin's again, and he says

36:15

this. I learned from our

36:17

FOIA lady here, I'm guessing he's talking about

36:19

NIH, how to make

36:21

emails disappear after I am FOIA'd, but

36:23

before the search starts. So I think

36:26

we are all safe. Plus, I deleted

36:28

most of those earlier emails after sending

36:30

them to Gmail. Wow. And

36:32

then, just a day later, he goes on and says this. It's

36:35

Morin, he's talking about this technique he has.

36:37

He says, it's more in line of a

36:39

government secret, but too complicated to explain in

36:41

an email. But I learned the tricks last

36:44

year from an old friend, Marge Moore, who

36:46

heads our FOIA office, and also hates FOIA's.

36:48

Perfect. Fucking institutional corruption. Let's put the person

36:50

that hates FOIA's in charge of FOIA's. Great

36:53

idea. Now, Aaron, if you're watching right now,

36:55

Aaron Cyrilori, now you know why it's so

36:57

difficult to get any responses when the person

37:00

we're talking to hates FOIA's as it turns

37:02

out. Amazing.

37:04

So here's

37:06

Dr. David Morin talking about government

37:08

secret. He's Mr. Secret Agent Man.

37:10

He's dodging FOIA's in the thick

37:12

of things. But about eight months

37:14

later, things changed. The tone of

37:17

his email changed a little bit. He thought he

37:19

was really clear from all of this, but look

37:21

at this one. This is in October of 2021. He

37:25

writes, this is to Peter Daszak. He

37:27

says, Peter, I just got news that

37:29

a FOIA picked up an email I

37:31

sent you saying that Tony commented he

37:33

was brain dead, joking, of course. However,

37:35

Ron Johnson is all over it. And

37:37

now after me, Tony will be pissed,

37:40

rightfully so. I deleted that email, but

37:42

I now learned that every email I

37:44

ever got since 1998 is captured and

37:47

will be turned over whether or not I

37:49

instantly deleted it. And

37:52

he goes, Gmail, phone, text. Basically, this is

37:54

all I need. This is how you get

37:56

a hold of me. Oh,

37:59

my god. God, can you imagine receiving that

38:01

email? Like, Peter's laughing like, oh

38:05

my God, I'm so screwed.

38:08

This idiot. I don't know who

38:10

you are. I don't know what you're talking about. Wrong number.

38:13

How do you get out of this now? I don't know. David,

38:17

we love you. We love you, David. It's

38:19

guys like you that make my job so

38:21

much fun. Keep up the good

38:23

work, David. Well done, well done. Real

38:26

sharp back. And that is

38:29

Tony Fauci, senior advisor, was I guess I

38:31

should say, but this is what we're talking

38:33

about. We're talking about high level conflicts

38:36

of interests within the United States government.

38:39

And so this is an ongoing story right now.

38:41

It's still unfolding. A lot of networks are not

38:43

covering this. Mainstream has not picked it up. I've

38:45

seen New York Post is doing a

38:47

lot of work on this, but it has yet

38:50

to really gain mainstream traction as it's to

38:52

a level it should have. I mean, we're talking

38:54

a major scandal here. So let's

38:57

go from the heights of the US government

38:59

to down to the individual doctors. Last week

39:01

we reported on UK doctor, one of the

39:04

darlings of the media over there, Dr. Ranch,

39:06

and we reported that he received 22,500 pounds

39:08

from AstraZeneca. And

39:12

that was still an unfolding story at

39:14

that time. Now the headlines are looking

39:16

like this regarding him, exclusive. This is

39:18

the mirror. TV doctor,

39:20

Dr. Ranch failed to tell

39:23

BBC bosses about 22,500 pound

39:25

AstraZeneca advert before jab feature.

39:28

And then we have Dr. Carl Hennigan and

39:30

Dr. Tom Jefferson in the Daily Skeptic. And

39:32

they're pushing on that nerve a little harder.

39:34

I love to see articles like this. Celebrity

39:36

doctors being paid to promote vaccines is against

39:39

the law and it is there in the

39:41

UK. So they lay out the

39:43

evidence for that. Really, really

39:45

damning evidence. And why does

39:47

this all matter? Well, because doctors

39:49

that, when you have doctors being

39:52

paid conflicts of interest in

39:54

the medical community at scale, you have

39:56

scandals. The

39:58

pump is primed. to

40:00

have major scandals. One of those we've been

40:02

covering is the opioid epidemic. And that was

40:05

started by Purdue Pharma, and famously they've had

40:07

to pay billions of dollars. But now a

40:09

new organization is caught

40:11

up in this and is paying criminal

40:14

case fines. This is Endo

40:16

Health Solutions. And they will pay over

40:18

1.5 billion in

40:20

an opioid criminal case. And

40:22

if we go into this article here, it says

40:25

this, "'Official said the case marked the

40:27

second largest criminal penalties ever

40:29

levied against a pharmaceutical company.'"

40:32

Imagine that. The largest penalties came in the

40:34

case of Purdue Pharma, which agreed to pay

40:37

more than five billion in a criminal case

40:39

connected to the opioid crisis. The Justice Department

40:41

said the opioid manufacturer, Endo, had pleaded

40:43

guilty to one misdemeanor count on selling misbranded

40:45

drugs. The company admitted

40:47

that certain sales representatives touted

40:49

supposed safety characteristics of its

40:52

opioid, opana, which weren't supported

40:54

by clinical data. And you know,

40:56

we've done so much work on this. We

40:58

can do flashbacks, we can talk about

41:01

this, but it's actually written up in

41:03

a medical journal here. And it's a

41:05

very concise description. This is the Journal

41:07

of Bioethical Inquiry. And it says, "'Lessons

41:09

from corporate influence in the opioid epidemic.'"

41:12

And if you go in here, this

41:14

really just kind of tells the whole

41:16

story. It says, "'There is overwhelming evidence that

41:18

the opioid crisis would just cost hundreds

41:20

of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars

41:22

in counting has been created or exacerbated

41:24

by webs of influence woven by several

41:26

pharmaceutical companies.'" Opioid companies built these

41:29

webs as part of the corporate strategies

41:31

of influence that were designed to expand

41:33

the opioid market from cancer patients to

41:35

larger groups of patients with acute or

41:38

chronic pain to increase dosage as well

41:40

as opioid use, to downplay the risk

41:42

of addictions and abuse, and to characterize

41:44

physicians' concerns about the addiction abuse risks

41:47

as opiophobia. So this is

41:49

where you see the words anti-vaxxers, even

41:52

anti-fluoriders, opiophobic physicians. These

41:54

are marketing terms targeting

41:57

doctors trying to neutralize concerns. We're

42:00

bringing all this up. We just lived

42:02

through this opioid crisis. These payments are

42:05

still being paid People are still harmed

42:07

by this and this has been one

42:09

of the largest Catastrophes of our lifetime

42:11

that came from the medical community And

42:13

so again, we have physicians whose the

42:16

pump is primed because these conflicts of

42:18

interest is that going down

42:20

or is that going up? This is

42:22

the most recent article looking at this.

42:24

There's a study now This is the

42:26

Journal American Medical Association JAMA industry payments

42:28

to US physicians by specialty and product type

42:31

Not a very interesting article or a

42:33

study headline But then you go into

42:35

the reporting on this and it says

42:37

this in bed with big pharma Corruption

42:40

fears as report finds US doctors receive

42:42

record 12 billion in pharma

42:45

payments in past decade And

42:47

it says this almost six in ten doctors

42:49

in the US receive more than 12 billion

42:51

in payments from pharma firms in the past

42:53

Decade and analysis has revealed from August 2013

42:57

to 2022 American drug and device manufacturers made more

42:59

than 85 million payments touting

43:01

12 billion to eight hundred twenty six

43:03

thousand three hundred thirteen of the 1.4

43:06

million eligible doctors in the US it's

43:08

over half The doctors in the US

43:10

and if you go to the images

43:13

in this article, you can see what

43:15

specialties are getting the most We have

43:17

orthopedics. We have psychiatry Cardiology

43:19

oncology so cancer blood clots

43:22

heart attacks SSR

43:24

eyes those are the major billion

43:26

dollar industries these these Pharmaceutical

43:28

companies are targeting you look at the top drugs

43:31

related to industry payments You

43:33

see drugs for blood clots are

43:35

the top two then arthritis to

43:37

beat diabetes And it's interesting you

43:40

don't see any pediatricians on there

43:42

because the pediatricians are already sewed up

43:45

They are already taken care of they

43:47

already have a system in place where

43:49

they get paid for the vaccination So

43:51

the pharmaceutical companies are not really targeting

43:53

them You can see the the low-hanging

43:56

fruits the targeting now is again oncology

43:59

cardiology and and diabetes and things

44:01

like that. So same thing happening in

44:03

Australia. This is an article in a

44:05

medical journal there, Pharmaceutical Company Payments to

44:08

Australian Doctors. And it says

44:10

in this article, a total of 33.44 million

44:12

was paid or transferred. Payments

44:15

ranged from $36 to $299,161. And

44:21

the median payment was $1,500. And

44:23

again, you go into here and

44:25

you see the top specialties receiving

44:27

this money. You have oncology, cardiology,

44:30

top one and two. And

44:32

so this is obviously a major

44:34

issue and we can only go

44:36

up from here. We have to

44:38

recognize this. Independent organizations must really

44:40

step up because it's

44:42

really flooded out there with conflicts

44:44

of interest. And not even in

44:46

the medical communities particularly, but we

44:48

have the vaping community. This is

44:50

a investigation stat magazine and you

44:52

can check this out. This is

44:54

the title, NYU professor who defended

44:57

vaping. Didn't disclose ties to Juul

44:59

document show. Juul is the largest,

45:01

most popular vaping manufacturer in

45:03

the world. And how did this happen?

45:05

Well, it says at the height of

45:07

the youth vaping crisis. Remember, these were

45:10

collapsing lungs, putting holes in kids lungs

45:12

when many public health experts were calling

45:14

for sweeping action that could upend the

45:16

entire industry. David Abrams and Ray Na'ara

45:19

emerged as two authoritative voices willing

45:21

to defend vaping despite his growing

45:23

popularity among youth as an effective

45:26

public health strategy to help adults

45:28

cut back or quit smoking. Abrams,

45:30

a frequent commentator, pay

45:33

attention to this because you notice these

45:35

people get fast-tracked right to the major

45:37

media positions. Abrams, a frequent commentator about

45:40

vaping in the news media, including CBS

45:42

This Morning, CNN, and the New Yorker

45:44

coordinated extensively with Juul on public messaging

45:46

in 2017 and 2018, according

45:49

to the company emails. Abrams asked

45:52

Juul officials for talking points, allowed

45:54

company executives to review an academic

45:56

article prior to publishing and attended

45:59

Juul's scientific- board meetings all

46:01

without disclosing these connections to journal

46:03

publishers or the public. So

46:05

when you see a talking head on TV look

46:07

at their conflicts of interest because this is often

46:10

what comes out and this is why we have

46:12

to be more diligent with the people we choose

46:14

getting information from when it comes to medicine and

46:16

health. Amazing reporting

46:18

Jeffrey I mean boy and

46:23

now you know the floodgates have

46:25

just opened I mean all of

46:27

those emails now calling out Francis

46:29

Collins and Tony saying I'm working with

46:31

them on the side well now we got to bring

46:34

them back in now we're gonna ask them what exactly

46:36

were those conversations that happened and then who's gonna get

46:38

thrown under the bus they're gonna start with the little

46:40

guy right try to stick it all to one

46:43

person like an assistant like you know

46:45

someone sharing those stupid emails but now

46:47

is when they start turning on each

46:49

other where is this all gonna land

46:51

super interesting right in the in

46:54

the shadow of the WHO pandemic

46:56

agreement which is mostly based

46:58

on all this corrupted science that was

47:00

happening here in the United States of

47:02

America just keep up the

47:04

great work Jeffrey I mean we're in we're

47:07

in our heyday right right in this moment I

47:09

gotta say for you out there people like you

47:11

know you think of woodwarders burn see right now

47:13

you know Jackson and Big Tree are all over

47:16

this we've been in it from the beginning and

47:18

it's starting to get juicy all

47:20

right keep up the good work

47:22

I can't wait to see what I'm covered

47:25

next week take care well

47:28

I mean look look at what that

47:30

stat says 60% of a

47:32

doctor's in America are getting paid off

47:34

by the pharmaceutical industry that means when

47:36

you go to your doctor you can

47:38

basically flip a coin and go

47:40

oh yep as it turns out

47:42

not a doctor an advertising salesperson

47:44

sales rep for the pharmaceutical industry that's what you're

47:47

dealing with right now so when people say to

47:49

me are you telling me I'm not supposed to

47:51

trust my doctor that I should be trusting you

47:53

well first of all just so you're clear if

47:55

you're just watching the high wire for the first

47:58

time I've never said just trust me You

48:00

should really be skeptical in the world we're in

48:02

today. You should ask for the evidence You

48:04

should ask for the evidence that is being

48:06

spoken about if this drug is so great Show

48:08

me the evidence show me the trials show me

48:10

the studies. I know it's exhausting You shouldn't

48:12

have to do it, but it's the Wild

48:14

West folks your own government doesn't have your back

48:17

anymore In fact, they're a part of the

48:19

crime. They're part of the cover-up. So where

48:21

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48:23

go to the high wire where we do

48:25

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48:54

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48:57

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49:00

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49:02

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49:04

sand? This is what it's all

49:06

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49:09

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49:11

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49:13

you're watching all the articles. They still call

49:15

us conspiracy theorists, even though like virtually everything

49:18

we've said now It's proven to be true.

49:20

So now even when you're right, you're still

49:22

a conspiracy theorist. Oh, well, we

49:24

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49:26

you think about all the cover-ups all the

49:29

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49:31

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51:16

are being developed That

51:18

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types of vaccine like products self

51:22

spread through society The idea behind

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The often stated purpose is so

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chemicals and we came across in that

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Investigation to our surprise the fact that

51:45

the United States military Drops

51:47

a whole host of toxic chemicals the

51:49

very type of chemicals that you would

51:51

want to keep out of your children's

51:53

food That you probably work

51:55

hard to make sure you don't get

51:57

exposed to spray them on entire residential

52:00

communities in various parts of the United

52:03

States. Unfortunately, many of

52:05

these products and compounds

52:07

that are being dropped are known to

52:09

be toxic and potentially cause

52:11

cancer. In fact, many of them

52:13

are dropped precisely because they're toxic

52:16

to life. Often their aim, of

52:18

course, is not to kill humans

52:20

or to harm humans, it's to

52:22

go after bugs, insects, and other

52:24

animals or foliage. But nonetheless, it

52:26

has the same effect. Even in

52:28

one instance, there were mosquitoes that

52:30

were inside of a box that

52:32

was inside of a building and

52:35

our understanding from the documents was

52:37

that dropping these repellents, mosquitoes, herbicides

52:39

from the flames was able to

52:41

kill those mosquitoes inside a box

52:43

that was inside a building from

52:47

dropping these pesticides and herbicides

52:50

in the sky. The important thing is

52:52

that whatever is being dropped, the American

52:54

public is not aware of it. It's

52:56

obviously quite troubling and disturbing and we

52:58

intend to take more action with regards

53:01

to that conduct. So

53:12

it's just a part of a series of

53:14

things that we do here. You bring the

53:17

FOIA requests, you uncover things, some of which

53:19

you assumed, other things like this that we

53:21

had no idea that we were actually being

53:23

poisoned by the military and now we start

53:25

bringing lawsuits. Now we start finding the plaintiffs

53:27

that are being affected by these things and

53:30

think about it, right? He points out that

53:32

in one of these papers, a box full

53:34

of mosquitoes inside of a building dies. All

53:37

right, it's just a mosquito, okay, but do

53:39

you think they actually did human tests? Do you

53:41

think they were just testing, spraying this stuff on

53:43

human beings, on babies, on infants? I mean, who

53:46

would put their baby into that test? We just

53:48

assume it's going to be okay for that small

53:50

baby you just brought home from the hospitals. We

53:52

spray the air in your skies. Guess who's going

53:54

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you know, it does take courage. It takes courage

54:32

to step out. And what's even

54:35

more amazing is those brave heroes that

54:37

step out often without even being recognized.

54:39

All on their own. They're not doing

54:41

it for fame. They're not doing it

54:43

for fortune. They're doing it because it's

54:46

what's right. So many of those courageous

54:48

heroes have come across this desk

54:50

and sat on our stage here at the High

54:52

Wire. It's really the thing

54:54

I'm the most proud of. Today's

54:57

story is one that maybe you don't

54:59

know about. Seems, you know, no

55:01

one was paying attention that there are

55:04

products out there that could have really

55:06

protected you from covid. But

55:08

the U.S. government made sure you didn't

55:10

hear about it. And if they tried

55:12

to just tell you what they could

55:14

prove, they bring a lawsuit and they try

55:16

to destroy you forever. Most

55:19

run. Most say, what do you need me

55:21

to pay? All right. I'll never say again,

55:23

you know, this routine.

55:27

Well, not Nate Jones. Take

55:29

a look at this. I

55:35

was born in Kansas City. My dad

55:37

was going to medical school. He was

55:39

always looking for natural things to do,

55:42

non-pharma solutions. And he used

55:44

saline a lot. And it

55:46

wasn't until he read some of

55:48

the studies in the 90s about how dentists

55:50

were using xylitol to prevent tooth decay. And

55:52

there was a study that was held that

55:55

xylitol is blocking the ability of strep pneumo,

55:57

H-flu, MCAT, and some of these other pathogens

55:59

to it. adhere to the tissue. And

56:01

he surmised that if you can block it from adhering

56:03

to the tissue, you're not going to get

56:05

sick as often. So he put xylitol into

56:07

a saline and started spraying it up their nose

56:10

and they stopped getting sick. At

56:12

the end of 1999, I went out to

56:14

visit my dad who lives in West Texas

56:17

and I was sitting in his clinic with him

56:19

and one of these nurses came in and

56:21

said, Dr. Jones needs more of that jungle juice you mix up

56:23

for the kids. Then the nurse came back and said, yeah that

56:25

lady you just went and made that up. She

56:28

just drove from Arkansas with three sick grandkids

56:30

in the car because one of her family

56:32

members that lived out in West Texas was

56:34

telling her how effective this doctor was treating

56:37

ear infections. And so she drove out to

56:39

West Texas, bought a couple

56:41

of bottles of this for you know a couple

56:43

of bucks and turned around and drove back to

56:45

Arkansas. And to me if someone's willing to drive

56:47

eight hours each way to buy a couple bottles

56:49

you should probably start a business with it. I

56:52

quit my job working as a

56:54

diver doing underwater construction and moved

56:56

back here to Utah while I

56:58

started the company. My dad came up

57:00

with the name spelled XLEAR as pronounced

57:02

clear because it clears your

57:04

nose, washes your nose and

57:06

the X is from the xylitol. So we

57:08

were selling a couple bottles a month and

57:10

then about six months after we started we

57:13

were at a medical convention down in Texas

57:15

and this doctor comes up to us and

57:17

starts asking a lot of very good questions

57:19

and it turns out that it was Dr.

57:21

David Williams and he ends up

57:23

writing this newsletter and then all of a sudden

57:25

within a matter of three days we went from

57:27

doing about a thousand dollars a month in business

57:30

to doing about five thousand dollars a day

57:32

and pretty soon I mean we were the

57:35

number one selling nasal spray in the natural

57:37

market. In 2016 we were in the mass

57:39

market we were in a lot of the

57:41

pharmacies most of the chains everything's going great

57:43

and then COVID hit. Mystery virus in China

57:45

that now has the World Health Organization on

57:47

edge. New infections exploding from

57:49

coast to coast shattering records

57:52

for single-day deaths, hospitalizations and

57:54

new cases. I was concerned

57:56

about how it would affect my family you know my kids are

57:58

young you know I would was worried more about

58:00

my mom and my dad, who were elderly. Took me

58:03

a couple of months to realize that it really wasn't

58:05

what we were being fed in the media. It wasn't

58:07

really what was true. But during early 2020, kind

58:10

of started getting a little concerned that our public

58:13

health agencies, they'd forgotten how to read because

58:16

there was a bunch of papers that started

58:18

coming out in the medical literature, talking about

58:20

just using saline, just rinsing

58:22

your airway and how that

58:24

would help with COVID. We've been selling

58:26

a nasal hygiene product for 20 years. We

58:29

understand nasal hygiene as good as any

58:31

other group on the planet. And

58:33

we just said, hey, you know what? We've never looked at

58:35

viruses. The doctors are telling us it's

58:37

having a good effect. And so we sent it up to

58:40

Utah State University Virology Lab.

58:42

Does this kill this SARS-CoV-2?

58:45

And sure enough, they responded and

58:47

said, yes, it destroys it rather

58:49

effectively. And we thought it was

58:51

a xylitol. And what we found out was that

58:53

the grapefruit seed extract that we'd been using for

58:56

20 years as a preservative destroys

58:59

this virus. And the data just kept coming

59:01

out about why and how it would be

59:03

effective. And again, we shared that with the

59:05

government. Again, we shared that with the CDC and

59:07

they ignored it. But we had

59:09

a lot of the professional baseball teams that called

59:11

us and asked for product for

59:14

their teams to use. Another one is my

59:16

phone rang and it was George Stephanopoulos. I

59:19

have COVID and this guy reached out and says

59:21

that your nasal spray might work. And I overnighted

59:23

a couple of bottles to him. And when other

59:25

doctors, when people that were treating people with COVID

59:28

started talking about how nasal hygiene worked, some of

59:30

them were using our products, some of them were

59:32

using other products. But we would repost some of

59:34

those and say, hey, people wash your nose. And

59:37

then July 29th of 2020, we

59:39

actually got a warning letter from the FTC saying

59:42

that we could not be sharing any of

59:44

the data from any of our studies or

59:46

any of the doctors what they

59:48

were talking about, as far as nasal hygiene goes

59:50

and how it could be beneficial. I

59:53

said, this is absolutely stupid. But we

59:55

took down the social media posts trying

59:57

to appease the people at the FTC.

1:00:00

And we never heard back from them. Our lawyers reached out

1:00:02

to him and said, hey, are you happy with this? You

1:00:05

know, do we have your blessing? Are you you know, did

1:00:07

we did we appease you and they didn't

1:00:09

respond they didn't respond and when we got new data

1:00:12

Studies, we would post those studies. We

1:00:14

would do press releases and Then

1:00:17

they came back to us and said no You can't

1:00:19

be sharing these press releases because they're not human airway

1:00:21

studies And so then we go and do those and

1:00:23

then they come back and say well You can't use

1:00:26

those either go and do this other study. We go

1:00:28

and do that study and they say, okay You

1:00:30

can't use that one either now You

1:00:32

have to go do two RCT studies

1:00:34

the goalposts were moving they kept coming

1:00:36

back with ridiculous after ridiculous after ridiculous

1:00:38

and we Said no And

1:00:43

so it was a little bit over a year later

1:00:45

after they give us the warning letter they sued us

1:00:48

Using us of making unsubstantiated claims. They're telling

1:00:50

me that I broke the law. I know

1:00:52

that I haven't broken the law I

1:00:54

think that the people at the FTC that are censoring us

1:00:56

have broken a lot and they have caused people to die

1:00:59

I mean, I knew I was in for a fight because

1:01:01

I knew that we were in the right I knew we

1:01:03

had science on our side and I wasn't gonna back down

1:01:08

You know when we all want some lawsuits about the

1:01:13

Unsubstantiated claims of How

1:01:16

about the covid vaccine and its effectiveness

1:01:18

and now it's safety especially amongst children

1:01:20

I don't see the government stepping in

1:01:22

there and bringing a lawsuit, but God

1:01:25

forbid You decide to

1:01:27

irrigate your nose. Well at the heart of this

1:01:30

It's just a really great individual doing

1:01:32

what's right. I'm joined now by Nate

1:01:35

Jones. Thanks for having me It's really

1:01:37

a pleasure to have you You

1:01:40

know lots of people sort of run

1:01:42

when the government gets involved I Guess

1:01:46

in the beginning you try to work with them,

1:01:48

right? Like, okay But

1:01:50

what I find interesting about your story is

1:01:53

usually when you hear about a vitamin company

1:01:55

or somewhere in natural health They're just making

1:01:58

claims, which is hard to stand You

1:02:01

were just basically publishing science

1:02:03

that you were funding

1:02:05

to have look at your product and say, look,

1:02:07

this is what the science shows,

1:02:09

right? Correct. I

1:02:11

mean, early on in 2020, and again

1:02:13

in the intro, it talked about this,

1:02:16

we had never in 20 years thought

1:02:18

about looking at viruses. And so

1:02:21

we obviously didn't have any data to

1:02:23

back up, so we weren't saying anything.

1:02:25

But doctors started talking about it, about

1:02:27

using it, and well, they're treating patients

1:02:29

with COVID. People who were doctors

1:02:31

who were treating patients with COVID, you know, not

1:02:34

just people at the CDC. And

1:02:36

they asked us and said, hey, can you find out why

1:02:38

this is working that well? And that's why we actually sent

1:02:40

it up and had the studies done. And

1:02:43

as soon as those studies came back, we understood from

1:02:45

the first set of data that we got

1:02:47

that it would be beneficial. For

1:02:49

20 years, we've been out there

1:02:51

talking, educating, researching about bacteria and

1:02:53

how if you can stop something

1:02:55

in your nose before

1:02:57

it spreads to the rest of your body,

1:03:00

your chances of getting sick are obviously, I

1:03:02

mean, this is something that a kindergartner knows

1:03:04

and understands. You know, if it

1:03:06

doesn't spread to the rest of your body, your chance of getting sick are

1:03:08

going to go down. We know that. I mean,

1:03:10

why do we wash our hands? Why do we brush our teeth? Why

1:03:12

do we take, you know, all of this stuff? But

1:03:15

we don't really wash our nose that much. And

1:03:17

that's where most of the pathogens in our

1:03:19

body come in through. I mean, certainly COVID,

1:03:21

all the science said this thing's colonizing here.

1:03:23

It's moving down into your throat right in

1:03:26

here is where it starts. You

1:03:28

know, that's the moment then once it really,

1:03:30

once it goes past there and it hits

1:03:32

your lungs, then you're in trouble. But if

1:03:34

you could stop it here and what I

1:03:36

find so shocking about all these stories, but

1:03:39

especially is it just it's such a common

1:03:41

sense thing, as you said, saline would do

1:03:43

something. But if there's something in that saline

1:03:45

that actually kills the virus, then correct. All

1:03:49

the better. But meanwhile, we're being every

1:03:51

doctor was saying don't do anything at

1:03:53

all. We have absolutely no treatment whatsoever.

1:03:56

So what is the

1:03:59

side effect of saying? you may want to try

1:04:01

rinsing your nose i mean since that is where

1:04:03

it is maybe some of it will reach out

1:04:05

to me like we're so for

1:04:07

outside of reason in this conversation will side

1:04:09

effect of doing that is the government would

1:04:11

sue you right at down

1:04:13

on that you know the yumel yumels would

1:04:15

rather die than right than actually do it

1:04:17

but no i mean we had data there

1:04:19

are articles that were getting published in the

1:04:21

journal america medical association suggesting that it would

1:04:23

probably work but they had data from

1:04:26

the study the first one that i'm aware of

1:04:28

where they actually data was an n i h

1:04:31

funded study at vanderbilt university where they were using

1:04:33

saline irrigation they had sixty people over the age

1:04:35

of sixty five they all had covered a test

1:04:37

positive they have symptoms and under a week they're

1:04:39

all better and when

1:04:41

you don't want to share this the

1:04:43

companies that provided the material uh...

1:04:46

you know their competitors wars neil mannevaj they

1:04:48

said okay well we won't share the data which if

1:04:51

you ask me i think that's that's a travesty to

1:04:53

their customers and it's a travesty to

1:04:55

our country because they need to stand

1:04:57

up and and and share the data for

1:04:59

something that's so safe and

1:05:01

has i mean yet granted it was a

1:05:04

study of sixty people but the

1:05:06

safety the safety factor that need

1:05:08

efficacy is it really gonna hurt anybody

1:05:10

if they go and put some salt water up their nose

1:05:12

not really and we've known that you

1:05:14

can use iodine in a nasal spray to use

1:05:16

baby shampoo and in nasal spray we've

1:05:19

been using xylitol for decades iota karajean

1:05:21

and there's all kinds of things that

1:05:23

we know block bacteria viruses

1:05:25

from hearing in our nose just here in

1:05:27

the u.s. we suppress

1:05:30

that information there's too much money being made

1:05:32

off of the pharmaceuticals to treat all these

1:05:34

diseases that we breathe in so

1:05:36

tell me a little bit about some of the

1:05:38

state get back a step because we serve rush

1:05:41

through it in that your

1:05:43

father decides let me try

1:05:45

it putting xylitol into a nasal spray that

1:05:47

sort of how the rest so

1:05:50

i was just thinking on that like

1:05:52

why is that all because so they've

1:05:54

known since the fordiness the fordiness the

1:05:56

the sixties they started doing

1:05:59

it in the forties got missed out. But

1:06:01

they started doing research in the 60s

1:06:03

looking at how xylitol prevents tooth decay.

1:06:05

Dentists were doing these research studies. Dentists

1:06:08

really didn't really

1:06:11

communicate that much with doctor,

1:06:13

with physicians. What happened is when

1:06:15

PubMed came online, my

1:06:17

dad was on there querying how to prevent ear infections

1:06:19

and what kept coming up with these dental research studies

1:06:22

because the dentists that keep all the data

1:06:24

and the kids in these studies with all

1:06:26

the xylitol chewing gum looking at how to

1:06:28

prevent tooth decay, they noticed, they

1:06:30

also were recording the data showing that they

1:06:32

got 42% fewer respiratory infections, ear infections just

1:06:34

by chewing gum with xylitol. Really? Okay. You

1:06:37

get rid of tooth decay, 42% fewer

1:06:40

ear infections. These are University of Michigan dental

1:06:42

school studies. They were published a long

1:06:44

time ago. And my dad

1:06:46

read that. And then there was a study

1:06:48

that came out in 98 in a journal

1:06:50

of antimicrobial chemotherapy where they actually talked and

1:06:52

said, this is what's happening. A xylitol is

1:06:54

blocking the ability of strep pneumo, H-fluidone, M-cat

1:06:56

and all these pathogens from adhering to the

1:06:58

tissue. If you can block that adhesion,

1:07:01

you're obviously not going to get sick that much. And

1:07:04

so we understood that. My dad, he goes, well,

1:07:07

I have all these babies that are having current

1:07:09

ear infections rather than bombarding. It's a huge issue

1:07:11

in kids. It didn't used to be, but kids

1:07:13

bitten the tubes in their ears and just it's

1:07:15

a real mass for a lot of parents. But

1:07:18

he started putting it into a saline

1:07:20

spray, started washing their nose out and they stopped

1:07:22

getting sick. Kids that were coming in constantly

1:07:25

for antibiotics, they

1:07:27

stopped getting sick. So I quit my day job.

1:07:30

I started the company and 20 years

1:07:32

later, we're in most of your pharmacies, your

1:07:34

grocery stores, your retailer. I mean, we're everywhere.

1:07:36

And then we have COVID

1:07:39

and we end up learning what it does

1:07:41

for not just SARS-CoV-2, but H1N1, RSV and

1:07:45

a couple of other ones. Wow.

1:07:47

And so all you were doing is putting

1:07:50

up the study here. We just did a study. Here's where

1:07:52

it's at. This is what you can say. Beyond

1:07:55

that, you're not like we're curing coronavirus, just

1:07:57

this is what it shows how it's affecting.

1:08:00

The buyers what what is it? What

1:08:02

is the source of xylitol? Because to

1:08:04

me in my mind I'm like that's

1:08:06

like a fake sugar, right? It's like

1:08:08

a fake sugar product So how is

1:08:10

it end up having some medicinal value?

1:08:12

It's actually a natural sugar Okay In

1:08:15

fact the best way to get it is if you

1:08:17

go break a corn cob after you didn't your next

1:08:19

beer corn on the cob Break the cob in half

1:08:21

and suck on it and that's not all about 40%

1:08:24

of the dry weight of a corn cob is xylitol

1:08:26

Really, but it's the number one sugar in biomass

1:08:28

I mean, it's what it's one of the

1:08:31

sugars that makes up plant walls Okay

1:08:33

So I mean it's it's extremely common and

1:08:36

if you go back a couple hundred years before

1:08:38

we were processing glucose sucrose

1:08:41

It was the number one sugar that we ate as humans Wow,

1:08:43

so that was really our sweetener in

1:08:46

nature when we're just eating things and not

1:08:48

adding and outside sugar And

1:08:51

so now you're bringing that back around Are there

1:08:54

I mean you were telling me backstage that

1:08:56

they're doing some looking gut biome being affected

1:08:58

by it? Yeah, there's a there's

1:09:00

a there's a couple of studies out there that

1:09:02

are there where they're looking at things like autism

1:09:05

Bone microbiome, they're looking at they have somewhere. They're looking

1:09:07

at cancer Even though I'm

1:09:10

funding it that's outside of my area

1:09:12

of what I truly understand Yeah, I

1:09:14

could say enough just to confuse myself

1:09:16

and and you know everybody else

1:09:20

But no, it's some exciting research So

1:09:22

now this lawsuit are you the only one I

1:09:24

mean as you said, Navaj is all these other

1:09:27

You know nasal irrigation companies you can go to

1:09:29

the drugstore. You see them there you see Clear

1:09:32

there did they receive the same letter? They

1:09:34

received the same warning letter and they just

1:09:38

Yeah Walked what they just

1:09:40

ran and they just said we'll stay away from it

1:09:42

tuck down in their foxhole was their word, right? Until

1:09:46

it all blows over and then you

1:09:48

decided to step out So like just

1:09:50

you know, I don't promote products, but

1:09:53

this is about a product But

1:09:55

you made it clear like you're fighting for

1:09:57

this. Yeah, but really this is this is

1:09:59

a competitor, right? Correct. How will this

1:10:01

competitor be affected because is this also

1:10:03

a xylitol product? Yeah, no, they use

1:10:05

xylitol. There's a couple other ones that

1:10:07

use xylitol. It's what I'm

1:10:09

trying to get to is that the concept

1:10:11

of nasal hygiene is something that we do

1:10:13

need to look at and understand. Okay,

1:10:16

I know it. I understand it. Yeah.

1:10:18

We're blocked from actually discussing what it

1:10:20

does because of our government and these

1:10:22

agencies that I guess are

1:10:24

run by the pharmaceutical companies because public

1:10:26

health, I mean, I'll give you a good example is soap.

1:10:30

We all know that washing your hands with soap and

1:10:32

water is probably the best way to stop the spread

1:10:34

of communicable diseases out there, period. But

1:10:36

the soap companies can't go say that. Right.

1:10:39

Okay, because they're not a drug. So

1:10:41

we can go in and say washing your nose helps

1:10:44

you smell better. Right. But

1:10:47

we can't really get into what's behind it and

1:10:50

in the past the CDC when they were

1:10:52

actually doing their job they were out

1:10:54

there educating people. They were out there talking to people

1:10:56

about washing their hands

1:10:58

using soap and water, singing the happy birthday

1:11:00

to you while you're washing your hands. They

1:11:02

were also out there sending dental hygienists to

1:11:04

schools to teach people, teach kids

1:11:06

how to brush your teeth, how to use a little

1:11:09

pink pills and give you a toothbrush and some toothpaste.

1:11:12

And they were teaching people how to do that.

1:11:15

Since 1980, I guess, because that's when I

1:11:17

was there, they've kind of abdicated that. They

1:11:19

just don't do it anymore. And

1:11:22

they're just so myopically focused

1:11:24

on just sitting around waiting to

1:11:26

have a vaccine for everything. Well, I

1:11:28

mean, as we pointed out just earlier in

1:11:31

the show, every doctor is being paid essentially,

1:11:33

it looks like to be a drug pusher.

1:11:35

Yes. Sell drugs. And if a drug doesn't

1:11:37

fix it, everybody else has got to keep

1:11:39

their science off the television, keep it off

1:11:41

your websites. You're not allowed to talk about

1:11:43

it only. And this is really where this

1:11:45

gets very complicated. Right. Because on

1:11:47

the one hand, I mean, I fight for

1:11:49

safety studies every day. I was like, where

1:11:51

are the safety trials on vaccines? It's one

1:11:53

of the big questions. But pharma likes that

1:11:56

we have the randomized controlled trial out there

1:11:58

because really, technically, they're the only ones. they

1:12:00

can afford to do it. I mean it does cost oftentimes

1:12:02

millions of dollars to do a trial like that.

1:12:05

Yeah, but usually that's the sad thing is these

1:12:08

days it's not really the pharmaceutical companies that are

1:12:10

paying for it. It's mostly our tax dollars. How

1:12:13

so? Because the NIH, I mean you listened

1:12:15

to all this during COVID. Well, we're funding

1:12:17

that. We fund all this research. The NIH

1:12:19

and the NIAID, they fund billions of dollars

1:12:22

in research. They're the ones that are funding most

1:12:24

of that. The pharmaceutical companies don't fund as much.

1:12:27

Everybody thinks that they fund a lot of money,

1:12:29

but it's usually the government that's funding it

1:12:31

because they get kickbacks from it. They get

1:12:34

royalty payments from it. Yeah, that's

1:12:36

something that we saw with COVID. Yeah.

1:12:38

Multiple scientists would be paid for life

1:12:40

for developing inside of a government agency

1:12:42

and then that same government agency promotes

1:12:44

the product that they developed. They get

1:12:46

their kickbacks and lo and behold the

1:12:48

side effects. I don't know what you're

1:12:50

talking about. We don't see any side

1:12:52

effects. We're not doing any studies to

1:12:54

look at it. We're not looking at

1:12:57

VAERS. We refuse to refute what's happening

1:12:59

there. So, you

1:13:01

know, when you did these studies, you kept

1:13:03

going and doing studies of your

1:13:06

product. I mean that has to have an expense

1:13:08

to it too. Why do it? Because

1:13:11

I like to know. Yeah. I like to know what

1:13:13

I'm talking about. You

1:13:16

know, and we, you know, when we started,

1:13:18

so we, when we really started doing studies

1:13:20

was actually during COVID because that

1:13:22

opened up a whole new door of

1:13:24

viruses and, you know, we did

1:13:26

a study, we did a study in 2006, I

1:13:29

want to say, where we actually

1:13:32

had a, we couldn't find anybody

1:13:34

in the US who did it. So we found someone in the

1:13:36

Czech Republic, but they went and looked at a bunch of kids,

1:13:38

you know, and used a xylitol nasal spray on them

1:13:41

prophylactically for a couple of months because it

1:13:43

had chronic ear infection, chronic otitis media. And

1:13:46

that study, you know, it

1:13:48

showed that the kids that used a nasal

1:13:50

spray with xylitol, it reduced the incense of

1:13:52

ear infections by over 80%. Wow. Which is

1:13:54

phenomenal. We brought it, and the other thing

1:13:56

that it showed is it showed a shift

1:13:58

of the nasal microbiome. from pathogenic

1:14:01

bacteria to non-pathogenic bacteria.

1:14:04

The good bacteria. Yeah, the commensals. Yeah. It

1:14:06

doesn't kill everything. It's not like an antibiotic,

1:14:08

which has its own issues, because it wipes

1:14:10

out the good and the bad. Correct. And we know

1:14:12

that. And we also know that from 50 years of

1:14:15

studies of xylitol in the mouth, because it does the

1:14:17

same thing in the mouth. But when

1:14:19

we tried to get that study published, the

1:14:22

editors of the pediatric journals were

1:14:24

like, nah, there's no way. There's

1:14:26

no way this is out. There's no way that spraying sugar

1:14:28

water up your nose is going to reduce

1:14:30

your infections like this. And so we

1:14:32

just said, well, we just spent a couple hundred thousand dollars

1:14:34

on getting a study done. Yeah. And

1:14:36

it's money wasted. So

1:14:39

we kind of slowed down doing a lot of research

1:14:41

in the nasal space. Yeah. We funded a bunch in

1:14:43

oral care and stuff. But it's

1:14:46

mostly so that we know it. And we

1:14:48

can go in and talk to the doctors and

1:14:50

the dentists about it, share the data with them.

1:14:52

But the government stops us from actually sharing that

1:14:54

data with the public. What faith do you have

1:14:56

from your vantage point now in the sort of

1:14:59

government regulatory system that's supposed to be looking, I

1:15:01

mean, it's supposed to be protecting people, Federal

1:15:05

Trade Commission protecting America's consumers. That's

1:15:08

their tagline. Yeah. But I can

1:15:10

show you with data that by

1:15:12

the stuff that they're censoring, just censoring

1:15:14

us, censoring our

1:15:17

competitors, people

1:15:19

died. I mean, if they'd

1:15:21

come out on the news and said, hey, guys,

1:15:24

just wash your nose with salt water, I guarantee you

1:15:26

there would be hundreds of thousands of people alive today.

1:15:28

The studies show that. Yeah. I mean, it's not like

1:15:31

it's making us up. Get your vitamin E levels up.

1:15:33

Studies show that. You

1:15:35

took as safe a drug as is going to

1:15:39

be out there with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, took

1:15:41

them out of people's reach while you had

1:15:44

no answers. Then you push Remdesivir, which in

1:15:46

its study, manipulates itself mid-study.

1:15:48

Tony Fauci goes in, changes the

1:15:50

end points, change

1:15:53

the protocols, which is fraud.

1:15:56

They perform fraud. But bring the

1:15:58

case against you. How

1:16:00

confident are you with your case? I'm

1:16:03

pretty confident because they still... The

1:16:06

stuff that we found out in depositions already,

1:16:08

they're deposing me the last week of June,

1:16:10

but we've already deposed them. One of the

1:16:12

funny things, it's not funny, it's really sad,

1:16:16

is that the people at the

1:16:18

FTC, they acknowledge

1:16:20

that they never even opened the emails and read the studies. We

1:16:23

could have sent them any study they wanted, and

1:16:25

they said it wasn't in the news, so it can't be true. The

1:16:28

news? Yeah. Well,

1:16:30

that reminds me of when the head of the CDC says,

1:16:32

I learned about the COVID at

1:16:38

CNN or the vaccine, I think it was the vaccine

1:16:40

she said, I learned about it at CNN. I was

1:16:42

like, you're the head of the CDC. You're learning about

1:16:44

the fact that it's going to be readied by the

1:16:47

news. Yeah, but to answer your question, I have very

1:16:49

little confidence. You

1:16:51

have so many drugs that are approved,

1:16:53

and then we find out they're harmful.

1:16:57

You have opioids that are approved, you have Vioxx, the

1:16:59

list is long. Everybody

1:17:03

sits there and talks about regulating ... I'm not

1:17:05

in a supplement business, I don't sell supplements, but

1:17:08

everybody talks about the need to regulate

1:17:10

the supplement business more.

1:17:12

More people use supplements in America than use

1:17:15

pharmaceuticals. They're cheaper, people use them.

1:17:18

But yet, you have over two million people

1:17:20

reporting adverse effects from drugs every

1:17:23

year, and you have about 3,000 people

1:17:26

reporting adverse events from supplements.

1:17:30

So tell me which one you think needs to be regulated more. When

1:17:34

you look at the government system, and if you were

1:17:36

king for a day, it does

1:17:38

appear regulatory capture is a huge issue.

1:17:41

The pharmaceutical industry has just

1:17:43

got itself wrapped around the CDC, FDA.

1:17:45

I don't know FTC what's involved there,

1:17:48

but we see EPA has got Exxon

1:17:50

official. Somehow, these

1:17:52

lobbyists have ... where

1:17:55

these regulatory agencies are supposed to be, as

1:17:57

they said, looking up for the consumer. they're

1:18:00

doing the bidding for their bosses, which appears

1:18:02

to be the industries we're supposed to be

1:18:05

being protected from. If I was

1:18:07

president, because here in the US we don't have kings, if

1:18:10

I was president for a day, I would

1:18:14

probably just demand that

1:18:16

the CDC and the Surgeon General,

1:18:19

you got to increase what

1:18:21

they're doing to educate people about how to

1:18:23

stay healthy. Public health, the golden time of

1:18:26

public health was really from the late 1800s

1:18:28

to the late 1900s.

1:18:33

We had a reduction in almost every

1:18:35

type of communicable disease and it wasn't

1:18:37

through vaccines, it wasn't through pharmaceutical products,

1:18:39

it was because our public health agencies

1:18:41

were out there making sure that we

1:18:44

exercised, that we ate

1:18:46

food, good nutrition, that we had

1:18:48

good personal hygiene and that we had good sanitation.

1:18:50

We had water coming to our houses, we had

1:18:52

the sewage getting pumped away, we had the trash

1:18:54

getting taken away, all of that

1:18:56

stuff. Those are the four pillars that public

1:18:59

health policy should be based on. They shouldn't

1:19:01

be based on sticking a needle

1:19:03

in everybody and they shouldn't be based

1:19:05

on pharmaceuticals. But that's what the Surgeon General and

1:19:07

that's what the CDC are doing now, is they're

1:19:09

focusing on that. I tried

1:19:12

to find out what the budget, the

1:19:14

amount of money being spent on prevention

1:19:17

and education was compared to the four

1:19:19

trillion dollars that we spend on sick

1:19:21

care, health care. I

1:19:23

couldn't find a good solid number but it's a

1:19:25

couple of billion. So you're spending

1:19:28

a couple of billion as a country on

1:19:30

educating people and preventing and teaching them how to

1:19:32

brush their teeth and wash their nose, wash your

1:19:34

hands. Even that,

1:19:36

because when we look into it, we

1:19:38

look at food pyramids or whatever shape

1:19:41

they put the food, you see that

1:19:43

it's being funded by Kellogg's and Nabisco

1:19:45

and in the world supported. So is

1:19:47

the funding even going to actual health

1:19:49

or again? Again, that's

1:19:51

the issue is... Filming through the

1:19:54

poisons. What

1:19:56

is good for you when it comes to

1:19:58

nutrition? I don't believe there was... it's good for

1:20:00

you or you or you is the same for

1:20:02

me. I mean, I read a book once called

1:20:04

the China Study about, you know, being a vegetarian.

1:20:06

And I'm like, Oh, this makes sense. So I

1:20:08

became a vegetarian for a year and I blew

1:20:10

up to like 320 pounds. I mean,

1:20:13

I was way bigger than than I am

1:20:15

now. Yeah. You know, and so obviously being

1:20:17

a vegetarian doesn't work for me. I have

1:20:20

a neighbor who's a vegetarian. He's healthy as

1:20:22

can be. So obviously, it's

1:20:24

not a one size fits all and

1:20:26

people in public health should understand that.

1:20:28

Right. Absolutely. But yeah, but it's, you

1:20:30

know, but I think that I

1:20:33

don't think that the CD or the CDC, I don't

1:20:35

think that the FTC should be able

1:20:37

to sue people unless they're actually making false and

1:20:39

misleading statements. That's what the law says. The law

1:20:41

says that we can't make false and misleading statements.

1:20:43

That's what Congress gave them. We all acknowledge that

1:20:45

everybody in businesses. Yeah, that's true. We probably shouldn't

1:20:47

be allowed to go out and lie about what

1:20:49

this does. We shouldn't be able to go out

1:20:51

and lie that the vaccine is going to prevent

1:20:53

you from getting something. Right. Totally. Like,

1:20:56

let's all play. Let's let you play field. What's

1:20:58

in this book you got here? What's this about?

1:21:00

So this is actually, it's just, you know, they're

1:21:02

saying you don't have the thing

1:21:04

that they have is the FTC says

1:21:06

you have to have substantial study.

1:21:09

Right. Okay. There's bunches

1:21:11

of studies back. Someone just get this. Someone

1:21:13

is this available for people? Oh, no, that's

1:21:15

just, they're all yours. The studies are all

1:21:18

available on our webpage. Link on your webpage.

1:21:20

Yeah. What's your webpage? It's clear. xlear.com/studies. Okay.

1:21:22

And you know, there's been a couple of

1:21:24

great people that have talked about this. I

1:21:27

mean, you know, Dr. McCullough, he, he talks

1:21:29

about this a lot now. Yeah. You know,

1:21:31

other doctors have come out and talked about

1:21:33

it. You know, when

1:21:36

the, when they create peril, by the way,

1:21:39

like, by saying, it's like your, your license

1:21:41

is suddenly under review for, well, you know,

1:21:43

so, so when they sued me, this

1:21:46

is actually interesting. When they sued me, the

1:21:48

very first person that reached out to

1:21:50

me and said, Hey, we, I want to

1:21:52

talk to you about this because of the government suing you.

1:21:55

What you're selling is probably true and it's probably effective.

1:21:57

Right. And it was, and it was a podcast. podcast

1:22:00

called Investigate Earth and they started

1:22:03

getting you know people calling up hating on him. Tell

1:22:07

me why that even makes sense. What

1:22:09

are next steps in this case? Where

1:22:11

are you at right now? Is that

1:22:13

when else left to be deposed? Me

1:22:15

and they just roped in my my

1:22:17

87 year old dad. Oh really? Yeah

1:22:19

they just noticed up last week that

1:22:22

they wanted to depose him. Right. You

1:22:24

know they know I think that they know they're not

1:22:26

going to win and they're just trying to make as

1:22:29

much hassle as they can. Yeah. For the simple reason

1:22:31

that you know that's their thing is

1:22:33

the FTC has many times said

1:22:37

that it isn't we don't care whether we're going to

1:22:39

lose it's the process is the punishment. Wow.

1:22:41

And so if you asked if I was keen

1:22:43

for a day I would just abolish the FTC

1:22:45

for the simple reason they're not doing anything good.

1:22:47

Yeah. I mean you'd think they

1:22:49

were but it's so easy to prove someone's lying

1:22:53

and it becomes way more difficult to sit

1:22:55

there and make it so vague. So

1:22:58

they can really what they're trying to do is they're

1:23:00

putting out guidelines that make it so vague that they

1:23:03

could sue anybody they want to for making any claim

1:23:05

at all. I mean that's what

1:23:07

I think really it's guys like you. True

1:23:09

that's really what it means to be a

1:23:11

true American patriot now someone's got to stand

1:23:13

the ground. If everyone just gives in

1:23:15

if everyone runs away I mean you could you

1:23:17

have a successful company nobody knows what's going on

1:23:20

the product's still on the shelves people can go

1:23:22

and get it. So you're going

1:23:24

out of your way to sort of stand your

1:23:26

ground and put yourself in you know

1:23:28

harm's way. I think I think as I

1:23:30

dig more into it I realize that there's

1:23:32

more at stake than just me

1:23:34

or even my company it's if you

1:23:37

take away all the supplements and stuff that people

1:23:39

you know rely on and they're

1:23:42

you know natural products again I

1:23:44

think that's a bigger impact on America not

1:23:46

just taking away but because now they're gonna

1:23:48

go and rely more on pharmaceutical products. Right

1:23:50

exactly right that's the whole goal I

1:23:53

think that's shifting though I really feel like we're

1:23:55

in a very important moment why it's so important

1:23:57

to tell stories like this I'm really

1:24:00

happy to meet you. It's an honor to meet people

1:24:02

that are just doing what's right.

1:24:04

Just do it. That's right. We'll

1:24:07

take care. Best of luck. Keep us posted on

1:24:09

all of your successes. We'll do. Thank you. All

1:24:11

right. We'll keep you in our prayers. Well,

1:24:14

you know, as you know,

1:24:16

we've talked about Mickey Willis

1:24:18

and Plantemic, the musical. They

1:24:20

had a huge screening in

1:24:22

Las Vegas, having screenings all

1:24:24

around the country. They're winning

1:24:26

awards. But what

1:24:28

is it like to be a part of watching it

1:24:30

and seeing it? Take a look at this. The

1:24:34

message in this film is so important. It just gives you

1:24:36

so much joy and so much relief.

1:24:47

I loved it. I found it very

1:24:49

uplifted. The movie brought tears to my

1:24:51

eyes. I just can't wait to share

1:24:53

it with everybody. Absolutely epic. Well,

1:25:33

we all know he's one of the

1:25:35

greatest filmmakers on the planet today, but

1:25:37

great filmmakers are made great because

1:25:39

the people they surround themselves with. And

1:25:41

today, Mickey Willis joins me with his

1:25:43

secret weapon to the Plantemic

1:25:46

Deepak. Welcome to the High Wire. Hey, how you

1:25:48

doing? Good to be here. Good to see you,

1:25:50

Mickey. Good to see you, though. Always a pleasure.

1:25:53

You are. I haven't seen it

1:25:55

yet. I haven't seen this long version. I have my

1:25:57

little cameo. I can't wait. It's coming up. First of

1:25:59

all, states austin the

1:26:02

next reading the next one is actually in not

1:26:04

los angeles of the directors guild of america as

1:26:06

part of the uh... malibu

1:26:08

film festival all fantastic and

1:26:10

then next month all right and

1:26:13

when that was the dates in in austin

1:26:15

so often is uh... june fifteenth and malibu

1:26:17

film festival is the twenty fifth so we're

1:26:19

leaving tomorrow fantastic the

1:26:21

k uh... deep pocket

1:26:23

hot personal how did you guys connect i

1:26:27

think it would be looking at about fifteen years

1:26:29

ago fourteen years ago or something like that we

1:26:31

live in a sixteenth yeah we live in a

1:26:33

big community house we had a live work environment

1:26:35

with uh... our entire production company in

1:26:38

o'hay california and we would

1:26:40

have amazing events every single weekend

1:26:43

musicians and speakers on

1:26:45

the property and the park graced us with

1:26:47

this presence one time and uh... fell in

1:26:49

love with him and and his gift for

1:26:51

music in so we've been wanting

1:26:53

to collaborate for a number of years and this

1:26:55

is our first official real

1:26:57

deep collaboration and and what an

1:26:59

incredible experience it was so

1:27:01

we are what's your background how do you have

1:27:03

to get music yeah i'm a started out grown-up

1:27:05

learning music you know i was a very young

1:27:07

kid i was listening to michael jackson and try

1:27:09

to always copy sounds and bands i like them

1:27:11

had violent lessons on their young but i was

1:27:13

sort of like the eighty-d rebellious kid and became

1:27:15

more of a street musician playing by ear uh...

1:27:18

i want to school for pre-med pre-law but the whole

1:27:20

time i had band i'll be not a public groups

1:27:22

in you know it's falling in the impact of the

1:27:25

either a doctor or lawyer engineer or some kind of

1:27:27

scientist but one thing graduate my parents are happy and

1:27:29

i branched off again a lot and look to be an

1:27:31

artist is still happy you have a really good life i

1:27:34

mean the first couple years they might have been a little

1:27:36

bit hey what's going on that isn't our normal path of

1:27:38

product is that they came to first generation security with a

1:27:40

common man you know they value but i

1:27:42

think when they started being successful coming through i was

1:27:44

doing gigs with rihanna in the ari you

1:27:47

know i'm getting out of my family the coast are things like

1:27:49

that started coming through and they're getting

1:27:51

validation for money a lot of it about also we

1:27:53

were the what it was other families in a state

1:27:55

like that i could the harvard our kids here they

1:27:57

started getting calls from like on the knuckles and cousins

1:28:00

that were like, hey, we just saw Deepak on

1:28:02

Modern Family or on Cadillac commercial. And so they're

1:28:04

like, oh, okay, we're getting validation with this crazy

1:28:06

path. All right, we're down. We're down. They're

1:28:09

very proud now. I got to meet them in our

1:28:11

Vegas showing and they're there. Little

1:28:13

tiny, sweetest people you've ever made. And they

1:28:15

stood there looking at their son and it

1:28:17

was beautiful to see how proud they were.

1:28:20

You know, I feel like I'm a little part of

1:28:22

this. We were having a party at our house. You

1:28:25

remember where I met you. You

1:28:27

pulled out a guitar. And it just

1:28:29

like, you know, there's a lot of people that like will

1:28:31

like pull out and jam like campfire music, but

1:28:33

there's something different when someone pulls out a guitar

1:28:36

and like just like, I mean, neighbors are like,

1:28:38

what is going on in here? Just

1:28:40

really captivated. And we were talking about being

1:28:42

in the middle of this pandemic. This is insane. What's

1:28:45

going on and what we're, you

1:28:47

know, going through. And so four

1:28:49

years ago, yeah, Thanksgiving, they'll have

1:28:51

a Thanksgiving gathering at his house

1:28:54

and a group of probably 50 of us

1:28:56

or so in total. We're all together and

1:28:59

Del always has really great wine. And so I

1:29:01

will admit we had a little bit too much

1:29:03

of that. He pulls out his guitar and we

1:29:06

start singing songs just to make light of the

1:29:08

situation that everyone was going through such

1:29:10

torture at the time, you know, being separated from

1:29:12

their families and all of the confusion. And

1:29:14

so we started singing songs, comical

1:29:17

songs, making up names, you know,

1:29:19

reversing the names. We had a

1:29:21

Anthony, Anthony, Ouchy, Gil Bates. Exactly.

1:29:25

So we're making up parody songs. And then

1:29:27

someone said behind us when we

1:29:29

were singing probably way too loud and probably irritated the

1:29:31

rest of the party. I apologize for that. Whoever was

1:29:33

there. They said,

1:29:35

wow, this would make a great Broadway musical.

1:29:38

Right. And I stopped and I

1:29:40

looked around and I said, musical,

1:29:43

we're going to do it. And everyone laughed at

1:29:46

my wife who knows me goes, I

1:29:48

know that look. He's not he's not joking. Here

1:29:51

we are. So

1:29:53

at the heart of it, I mean, look, you've done

1:29:56

this series of plannedemic

1:29:58

movies. You've really been. going after

1:30:00

the establishment but it's risky as a

1:30:02

musician to get involved with someone that's

1:30:04

sort of speaking the truth that way.

1:30:07

Is this sort of perspective that Mickey has new to

1:30:09

you? Not at all. I mean, I've

1:30:11

always been curious. As a

1:30:14

young kid, I always thought there was weird stuff going

1:30:16

on just even in high school, middle school, questioning things,

1:30:18

staring at the dollar bill and using

1:30:20

magnifying glasses on a personal check. If you guys don't

1:30:22

know, if you look at the personal check on the

1:30:24

signature line, that's not a line. Those

1:30:26

are words. And little, you know, it says

1:30:29

authorized signature and little weird clues like that led

1:30:31

me down a path of curiosity and discovery of

1:30:33

things may not be what they seem. The media may

1:30:35

not be accurate. There might be more things behind

1:30:38

the scenes. And so that led me

1:30:40

down all these different questions, curiosity, studying economics. I

1:30:42

was a mathematician, as I mentioned, doing pre-med and

1:30:44

pre-law. So the math

1:30:46

didn't work out when I was studying Keynesian

1:30:48

economics. Something about it wasn't right. It

1:30:51

set up to create debt. I was like,

1:30:53

this isn't weird. This is weird. They're indoctrinating

1:30:55

people with a mathematical way that's actually

1:30:57

designed to create debt. Central Banking Systems, Jekyll Island, you know,

1:31:00

you can go back into the history. We can go out

1:31:02

and wrap it whole here. That's

1:31:04

what led me to Ron Paul, Austrian Business Cycle,

1:31:06

Mycies, Rothbard, all that, free markets. And so that's

1:31:08

kind of been the path I've been on. And

1:31:10

then, you know, I led into like understanding politics a

1:31:12

little bit more and how it worked. You're way too

1:31:14

smart for a musician, man. Like you're not supposed to

1:31:16

be. So they clearly like, he

1:31:18

must like, who was there first then? I

1:31:20

always thought this guy. He was

1:31:22

there before I was. I was still a useful idiot,

1:31:25

as they call us. And

1:31:28

wanting to look away from all this stuff, I had people

1:31:30

warn me years ago and come to me and say, you

1:31:32

know, your position in media is very important. Maybe

1:31:34

you can help get this truth out to the world. And they'd lay

1:31:36

it out for me. And they'd talk about the big conspiracy and all

1:31:38

the tyrants that are trying to take over

1:31:40

America from within. And I thought, this is

1:31:43

just crazy, these people. You

1:31:45

know, they're looking to feel important somehow.

1:31:48

This can't be real. And it wasn't

1:31:50

really until, you

1:31:52

know, what began my deep dive

1:31:54

behind the curtain was when my

1:31:57

wife and I, Nadi and I decided to have a

1:31:59

child. I said, what are we going

1:32:01

to do in terms of vaccination? And

1:32:04

then I started, our decision at the beginning

1:32:06

was, well, we'll just get what's needed because

1:32:08

one thing I'm clear on is the schedule

1:32:10

just seems over the top. 70

1:32:12

some odd vaccines before they're age six or something

1:32:14

like that, just, I don't know any body that

1:32:16

would require that. So let's figure out what the

1:32:18

child really needs. And I started to go down

1:32:20

the rabbit hole and that's kind

1:32:23

of when things open up for me because

1:32:25

I started to see the evidence pointing in

1:32:27

a different direction than the mainstream media was

1:32:29

directing us. And that

1:32:32

really opened me up to

1:32:34

look deeper that

1:32:37

there was a possibility that, you know my story that

1:32:40

I had a brother killed by AZT and

1:32:42

then a mother died, bad cancer treatment.

1:32:44

So I was already kind of keyed in at

1:32:46

this major problem within Western medicine. But

1:32:48

then when I started to realize

1:32:51

it's not incompetence, there's something corrupt

1:32:53

here. And there's a movement

1:32:56

that really wants to keep us sick

1:32:58

and dependent. And

1:33:00

the further I went down that rabbit hole, the

1:33:03

more I learned and really the

1:33:05

more unbelievable it

1:33:08

became and it still is today. It's

1:33:10

still even though we know what's going on, I

1:33:13

still grapple with the idea

1:33:16

that there are people that are consciously doing

1:33:18

harm on a mass scale. But it's so

1:33:21

evident, but I still just have a hard

1:33:23

time computing that in my mind that there

1:33:25

are people that have so lost their soul

1:33:28

that they can perform that way. Yeah, we've had

1:33:30

a lot of very deep

1:33:33

intense conversations. I feel like sometimes you jump on

1:33:35

that side of the room and you're like, wait

1:33:37

a minute, did I come back? And you're like,

1:33:39

wait, I'm back. It's because

1:33:41

it's really mind blowing. The

1:33:43

music very quickly, this is a very

1:33:46

serious topic. Yet there's

1:33:48

so much beauty. How do you approach a project

1:33:50

like this as a musician? What was like, is

1:33:53

there a goal, is there a feeling? Feeling

1:33:55

drive it, does it start with an

1:33:58

intellectual mathematical structure of music? For

1:34:00

me, art is feeling-based, but I think having a purpose

1:34:02

has a little bit of a balance of left brain

1:34:04

and right brain. I think the balancing of the hemispheres

1:34:06

is really key for society in general. So as an

1:34:09

artist, I'm thinking, hey, what's a feeling I can create

1:34:11

that can move, touch, and inspire people, but also with

1:34:13

a little bit of thought behind it and intention that

1:34:15

can create change, create a movement,

1:34:17

create unity? And so

1:34:19

I think when working with Mickey, especially, he's a great storyteller,

1:34:21

and as an artist, that's my job to be a storyteller.

1:34:25

It was an amazing partnership to work with

1:34:27

him, because he's providing narratives that I align

1:34:29

with already about unity, freedom, team

1:34:31

humanity, like a big passion of mine.

1:34:34

And so writing songs that can unite people lyrically

1:34:36

and also with hooks and melodies that are coded

1:34:39

to be remembered, that's kind of like how I'm

1:34:41

going to think about it. What is this pattern

1:34:43

or shape that could be encoded that

1:34:45

we're going to remember? We're going to sing it. Even though

1:34:47

we're going to sing the melody and we're going to sing

1:34:49

the words. So the melody has to be really important and

1:34:52

sort of the lyrics so that you're going to repeat it,

1:34:54

because to me, it's a mantra, a mantra is

1:34:56

something you repeat. So lyrics are a

1:34:58

mantra. We sing those Beatles songs that we remember. And

1:35:00

if they have meaning and you can remember them,

1:35:02

then we're actually reprogramming. Just like affirmations have power,

1:35:04

so do songs. Songs are like affirmations, but they're

1:35:07

musical and you can sing them to each other.

1:35:09

Being in a Coldplay concert or any other

1:35:11

place where everyone's singing together, that's when we

1:35:13

put down our differences. That's when we're in

1:35:16

joy, is when we're singing together. So

1:35:18

that's kind of my divine vision as Deepak World and

1:35:20

Team Manatees to create just a one-world sing-along that goes

1:35:22

on forever, like Michael Jackson, Heal the World, things like

1:35:24

that. I think I'd like to be able to contribute

1:35:26

to the world in that kind of way as well.

1:35:30

One of the things that I ran

1:35:32

into early on in my storytelling career

1:35:34

too was recognizing that language

1:35:36

is limited. This thing we

1:35:38

call language that gets produced through the mind

1:35:40

can only take us so far, but the

1:35:42

true magic of life is ineffable. We

1:35:45

cannot describe it. We can do our best to come

1:35:47

close, to kind of paint a picture of it, but

1:35:50

language is so limited that the stuff that

1:35:52

really transcends the human experience, the stuff that

1:35:54

goes into the other dimensions of reality, where

1:35:57

truly the healing power is, where where

1:36:01

we find peace and connectedness with each

1:36:03

other. Music is one of

1:36:05

the only languages, they call it the language of

1:36:07

the soul for a reason. It's one of the

1:36:09

only languages that will help us get beyond the

1:36:11

thinking mind that is limited based

1:36:14

upon the scope

1:36:16

of our vocabulary. Music

1:36:18

will have us transcend beyond

1:36:20

that. It heals the body,

1:36:22

it also carries vibrational properties, which we spoke about

1:36:25

last time I was on the show, that's

1:36:27

happening simultaneously, which is why cultures since

1:36:30

the beginning of the time have beat

1:36:32

on drums and bare skins and whatever

1:36:34

it might be just to

1:36:36

create that unified experience. And

1:36:39

so for me, years

1:36:41

of telling stories, I've recognized that we've

1:36:45

kind of reached the end of that. We

1:36:47

can fill our minds with so much data,

1:36:49

but at what point does that just become

1:36:51

an overloaded hard drive to where nothing happens,

1:36:53

computer no longer computes. And

1:36:56

that's where music takes over for me. And

1:36:58

that's why I chose to work with Deepak

1:37:00

here so we can take this to the

1:37:02

next level of creating an experience beyond

1:37:04

the spoken word. It's amazing.

1:37:06

You know, we've talked about when I was

1:37:08

a young kid, I wanted to get in,

1:37:10

like I remember sitting in movie theaters and

1:37:13

as a boy, you know, you live in an uptight

1:37:15

society and you know, tears would run down my face.

1:37:17

I just remember thinking, I wanna be able

1:37:20

to make everybody feel like this, like what movies

1:37:22

do for me. And I was in film school

1:37:24

and I remember the music, like the sound teacher,

1:37:26

like you're in sound class. And

1:37:28

he said, I'm gonna, if you, you know, how many

1:37:30

people think music's important in film? Like we want 50%

1:37:33

of film, I was like 50, 50, 50. And

1:37:36

he's like, I'm gonna argue with today 80% of film and

1:37:39

experience in his music. And I remember he played a

1:37:42

scene of Last Temptation of Christ

1:37:44

with just the visuals. And

1:37:46

then he played with Peter Gabriel sound, you know, then he

1:37:48

played just Peter Gabriel soundtrack by himself and he's like, which

1:37:50

one made you feel something? Like, yeah, definitely the music. Then

1:37:52

you put them together and it was sort

1:37:55

of off the charts. You've

1:37:57

been winning awards, Mickey.

1:38:00

I mean like it was

1:38:02

crazy about it like in the

1:38:04

place that rejected us like cast

1:38:06

us out, California Santa

1:38:08

Monica right Santa Monica film vessel just

1:38:10

very quickly What does it feel like

1:38:12

to go back like into

1:38:15

the Lions den with films

1:38:17

about the Lions? And

1:38:19

be winning awards like tell me about well

1:38:21

each time I think it must be a

1:38:23

sting operation They're

1:38:26

alluring me in with the right right I've got a

1:38:28

recipe like that door turn around put your hands

1:38:30

behind your back It's

1:38:32

been really mind-blowing because not only have a

1:38:34

matter of fact. I want to say that

1:38:37

you're your previous guest Nate That's

1:38:39

another incredible story to tell because I don't know if

1:38:42

you plan this or not But Nate

1:38:44

and spry gum and clear

1:38:46

they are our first major

1:38:48

brand sponsors So if you look at our

1:38:50

posters or step and repeat and everything you'll

1:38:52

see that their logos on it right down at the

1:38:54

bottom Our logo our poster there And

1:38:57

so just really kudos to people like Nate

1:38:59

that have stepped forward because of their personal

1:39:01

experience With with the tyranny that

1:39:03

we're all facing to say Even

1:39:06

if this might hurt my business I'm going to

1:39:08

stand for the truth and stand for these people

1:39:10

because they're telling the truth and what

1:39:12

we're witnessing now is Everyone who

1:39:14

stepped out yourself Big-time on top

1:39:16

of the list for being so brave to go

1:39:19

You know to leave the mainstream to take the chance

1:39:21

that you took Dale And I know as your

1:39:23

friend what what that took to leave

1:39:25

a very profitable Lucrative

1:39:28

career once you built your status in Hollywood.

1:39:30

It's kind of like being in the military

1:39:32

right you never lose those stripes And you

1:39:34

can always you can always fall back

1:39:36

on on You know that

1:39:38

that title to Score

1:39:41

jobs in Hollywood you've earned it and you earned it

1:39:43

and then you let it go All

1:39:45

in favor of telling the truth and