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We reported last week out of Mexico was the
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first fatal case of a subtype. It was H5N2.
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This was the highly
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pathogenic avian bird flu. And the WHO
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put out its own press release on
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its own website. And we broke
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this down and they showed, they broke down
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the first case here in Mexico. And
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they were bringing it down, showing it.
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And they tested this individual four times
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up the chain of PCR tests. They
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were really looking hard to see if
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they can find this, make
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sure the sample was right. And
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they said this person died
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from this H5N2. But hold on one
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second. The CBC comes out and says
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this. Mexico says patient died of chronic
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disease, not H5N2 bird flu. As we
0:44
told you, there was a lot of
0:46
issues with this certain patient. It says
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Mexico's health ministry on Friday stressed that
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the 59-year-old man's death was due to
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chronic conditions that led to septic shock.
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It was not attributed to the virus.
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They said, quote, the diseases were long-term
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and caused conditions that led to failure
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of several organs, the ministry said, citing the
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findings by a team of experts. The
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man had chronic kidney disease, diabetes,
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and arterial hypertension over the past
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14 years, according to health officials.
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Why did they look so hard? This
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is the open-ended question to try to
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find bird flu in this person. Again,
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is this died because of bird flu
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or with bird flu or what's
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going on here? And we're seeing
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the headlines that are really mirroring, you
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know, it's bringing back probably for some
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people some trauma, mirroring the run-up to
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the COVID response. Here's one of them.
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With bird flu tests hard to get,
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how will we know when to sound
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a pandemic alarm? I
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mean, that headline right there says
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so many things. You could teach a class on it
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from what we saw with COVID. Because, you
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know, how are we going to know? But regardless,
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here's the European Union. They're securing their vaccines right
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now. They've secured over 40
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million avian flu vaccines for 15 countries.
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So they are not screwing around. really
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seriously, but the big question, yeah,
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the big question with this conversation with
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bird flu is gain of function. That
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should be on everybody's mind. And we've
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been talking about it, we broke it
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down, we're gonna go deeper into it
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here because Dr. Peter McCullough and his
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co-authors have now put out a paper
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that have broken down the current strain
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that is affecting animal species and causing
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sporadic human infections. This is the proximal
2:25
origin of this highly pathogenic avian
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influenza and it says the proximal origins
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of HPA, H5N1 clad 2 point,
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this is basically the current version
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of this virus affecting, it says
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maybe the USDA, Southeast Poultry Research
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Laboratory in Athens, Georgia and
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the Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam,
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the Netherlands. And of course McCullough
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and co-authors say they conclude a
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moratorium on gain of function research
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including serial passage of H5N1 is
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indicated to prevent
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a man-made influenza pandemic causing
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animals, affecting animals and humans. And this
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is what everyone's talking about, even the
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House Energy and Commerce Committee is saying
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we need a completely independent body, we
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need to take this idea
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of gain of function away from NIH and have an
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independent body that looks at these because this is a
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major danger. And the Organic
3:17
Consumers Association, they wrote a great article
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just a couple of years ago, really
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outlining this and its title is Bird
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Flu Being Weaponized. And they go into
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this, now bird flu in humans has
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only been known for just a couple
3:31
decades here. So this is something that
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goes back hundreds and hundreds of years
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in the scientific literature. So they
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break down the history of this and you'll notice
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as I go through this segment at every juncture
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in the history of bird flu over the last
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couple of decades, we have right next to it
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the bedfellow is gain of function. So Organic Consumers
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Association writes this, the first human
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H5N1 outbreak occurred in Hong Kong in
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1997, the year
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of what the British called the Hong
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Kong handover, when sovereignty over Hong Kong
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Hangover, I think it was supposed to say. I think
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it's the Hong Kong hangover. Yep, go ahead. Okay.
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Was it hangover? Was it hangover? Okay,
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hangover. Hangover, yeah, from the UK to
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China. It was during this politically sensitive
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year that Kennedy Shortridge, an Australian scientist
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who was the director of the World
4:15
Health Organization's reference laboratory at the University
4:17
of Hong Kong confirmed human cases of
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highly pathogenic bird flu. It says in
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this article, the LA Times reported, quote, the
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H5 piece came from a virus and a
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goose. The N1 piece came from a second
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virus and a quail. The remaining flu genes
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came from a third virus, also on a
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quail. Shortridge had been studying how avian influenza
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viruses spread in humans since 1975, prior
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to discovering H5 and one Shortridge, eerily
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predicted its emergence. Guy's studying it, he
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predicts it's gonna happen. Says at the
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time, the natural leap of flu directly
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from poultry to humans was
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thought to be so unlikely that scientists first
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suspected contamination from Shortridge's lab was
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the cause of the highly improbable
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H5 N1 diagnosis. Unfortunately, we
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didn't have alternative researchers, independent journalists
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to dig into this because we
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might've found something else. But now
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this handoff comes from Shortridge, now
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to two other scientists that
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make a big splash here,
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really in America. And this
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is Yoshihiro Kawaka and Ron
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Fauchet. And these researchers have
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been doing straight up gain
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of function work since 2011, and
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they produce a paper and they say, hey,
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we were able to soup this virus up,
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this bird flu virus up so much that
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it's now highly pathogenic in our lab, in
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a ferret model, which is a substitute for
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a human model. And they were
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gonna publish the paper and the entire research community, most
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of them said, we can't do this, it's way too
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dangerous. Because other labs are gonna try to recreate this
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and we might have a lab accident, or terrorists might
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get this and do it. They published
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it anyway, this was the paper they publish. Mutant
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flu paper published, controversial study, shows how
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dangerous form of avian influenza could evolve
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in the wild. Now
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it goes on to say, H5N1, commonly known as bird
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flu, is a highly pathogenic and often lethal in humans.
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but it cannot spread efficiently between people and cases
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seem to be rare. Not
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anymore. To find out if H5N1 could
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evolve easily transmissibility
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between humans, Kiawoka and his team
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mutated a hemagglutinin, H-A gene, which
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produces the protein that the virus
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uses to stick itself to host
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cells. The first hints of Kiawoka's
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work emerged last year along with
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details of similar experiments led by
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Ron Fuchet at the Erasmus Medical
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Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Wow.
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There's a commonality between these two individuals. They're
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both creating these viruses that have
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gained the ability to spread through
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air between ferrets and they were
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both funded by NIH under
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Francis Collins and NIAID under
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Anthony Fauci. They are funding
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their research. So as
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we know, as this story goes in 2013 and 2014, specifically,
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there was a moratorium on gain of
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research. Everything stopped because there was this
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understanding in these reports that there's way
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too many mishaps going on in these
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labs that are working with these highly
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pathogenic viruses. One of those mishaps was
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a report from the CDC and
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this is what this said here. It said,
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sloppy practices by CDC scientists cited in lab
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mishaps. So let's go into this. Again, this
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was 2014. We have
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a moratorium. It says the CDC investigation
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found a wide range of serious lapses
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and revealed additional flu research that was
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jeopardized because of contaminated samples. The CDC
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scientists may have even handled both the
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benign strain of bird flu and the
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dangerous H5N1 strain inside a biosafety cabinet
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at the same time. The report concludes,
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which would be a significant breach of
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basic procedures that carries risks of
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cross contaminating specimens. It
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gets better. A contaminated sample of the
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benign bird flu virus also was sent
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to another CDC lab where it was
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still being used in experiments more than
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a month after the mistake was discovered
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because nobody alerted that lab to the problem.
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In addition, the CDC had also planned to
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send a sample from the contaminated virus batch
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to the infection disease department. at
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St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, which
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has a prestigious influenza research facility.
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But now it goes on. We have
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2017, the moratorium on gain of function
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research is lifted, we
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know how that goes with coronavirus
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research, but Kai Waka's research
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and Ron Foucher's research, they get the
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green light again. This is 2019, science.org
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says exclusive, controversial experiments that can make
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bird flu more risky, poised to resume.
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These are the gain of function projects
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that were halted four years ago. And
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so what happens there? Well, in
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2019, Kai Waka's lab at
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the University of Wisconsin actually has basically
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an accident there while working with the
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bird flu. It was chronicled in this
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paper right here, in this editorial in
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USA Today, lab created bird flu virus
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accidents, show lax oversight of risky gain
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of function research. So this is the
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main story here with this bird flu
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conversation. I mean, we keep talking about
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it, but it's so much more serious.
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I'm sure people are going, wow, this is like really getting the
9:01
weeds. I'm not sure how it affects me. Folks,
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I mean, this is like potentially world
9:06
ending stuff. Like these people mess this
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up. They give a function to a
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virus that it never was going to
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have naturally. And suddenly one of these
9:15
bozos gets a cough, carries it out,
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you know, themselves or a mouse or
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something or ships it in the freaking
9:21
mail. And now suddenly you have,
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you know, a deadly
9:26
virus sweeping the world. And
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we're just like, yeah, I suppose it could happen.
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Oh yeah, it sounds like a lab leak in
9:33
Wuhan. That's what it was. And the next story,
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like next story, these are the biggest stories of
9:38
our lifetime, people. This is the biggest issue. This
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is literally like a nuclear weapon is being built
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by a junior high student in the basement next
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door and you don't know about it. What could
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possibly go wrong?
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