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Welcome back to 3 White People Fumbling

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Again Through February. Thank you

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for tuning into Horror Virgin on Page. I'm

3:01

I.E. And I'm your clone Todd, which means

3:04

I don't like scary movies, but you guys

3:06

make me watch them, and this week, you

3:08

all made us watch... THE

3:10

CLONE TODDY ROON! So,

3:14

Page... Fucking loved it. Loved every second

3:16

of it. Super excited. I knew you

3:18

would. When I saw that every frame

3:20

of this movie looked like it was

3:23

shot through the cameras they shot winning

3:25

time on HBO on, I was like,

3:27

hell yeah. I love this like hyper-stylized

3:30

film they're shooting with. I love it! It's probably

3:32

digital, honestly. They just use a... It is digital.

3:34

Yeah, they just use After Effects to make it

3:37

look like that. That was one of my fun

3:39

facts. Where they specifically digitally altered the look of

3:41

the movie to make it look like it was

3:43

shot on 35, but then blown

3:45

up to show on 16. Or it's shot on

3:47

16, blown up to show on 35. And that's

3:49

why you can see the film grain in it. Like,

3:53

you can see it. Yeah. And it's like, it's

3:55

such a cool... It's a cool 70s effect. Like,

3:57

I'm here for it. I love this style. It

3:59

makes the film... fluorescent lights glow extra

4:01

and I love it. So like

4:04

this movie has a lot of elements

4:06

that I really like. It's got hyper

4:08

like campy mimed sex scenes. That's hilarious.

4:11

Love it. Not even sex scenes, but

4:13

it's like them trying to fool the

4:15

surveillance stuff. Like that shit was so

4:17

funny to me. It's

4:20

got funk music and it's got a 70s

4:22

vibe. I'm here for it.

4:24

I love all of those things. Todd comes

4:26

out swinging in this podcast. I love sex

4:28

scenes. Yes. This movie

4:30

gets to some personal nerderies. Of

4:32

course. Because not only

4:34

do I like hyper stylized

4:37

comedy, sci-fi horror fusion, but

4:40

I'm also a huge MK ultra

4:42

nerd. And this is part of

4:44

multiple films, both films that were

4:46

made back in the 70s. Cause

4:49

this is kind of an homage to a genre,

4:52

but also a number

4:54

of movies that have come out in the last

4:56

like five to 10 years that

4:59

deal with essentially white people as

5:01

a monolith or the American government

5:04

as a stand-in for white people

5:06

poisoning black communities in a kind

5:08

of sci-fi way. So like get

5:11

out, I think it's probably the

5:13

most famous of the

5:15

current versions, but even black dynamite has this

5:18

where it turns out to be Richard Nixon

5:20

trying to make people's dicks small. And he

5:22

ends up slapping the first lady into a

5:24

China cabinet and it's great. Okay. I

5:27

now have to watch that movie immediately.

5:29

Where's my pencil? Dude, have you never

5:31

seen black dynamite? It's fucking awesome. Oh

5:33

my God. I love black dynamite. What

5:35

you just described sounded awesome. Like I

5:38

am not doubting what you just said,

5:40

but I haven't seen it. God, after

5:42

it happens, he walks over to her and

5:45

helps her up and is like, hi first

5:47

lady. I apologize for him slapping you into

5:49

that China cabinet. It's a level of force

5:52

that I don't usually show, but I felt

5:54

like the situation called for it. Dude, black

5:56

dynamite is amazing. Michael Jai white should be

5:58

so much more famous. And he is I

6:00

could talk about that all day But the movie

6:03

that this actually really reminded me of is

6:05

sorry to bother you I don't know, but

6:07

you guys have seen sorry to bother you.

6:09

Yeah that it can it kind of gave

6:11

me those vibes I love

6:13

this genre of movie and of course

6:15

it is kind of in a hyper

6:17

stylized way Reflecting things that

6:20

actually fucking happened like MK

6:22

ultra did fucking experiment on

6:24

people They did release drugs

6:26

into the community They have

6:28

fucked with not just communities

6:30

of color but communities of

6:32

poverty in general But more likely communities

6:34

of color because half of them were

6:36

Nazis read about it it happened But

6:39

I loved this movie. There was so much

6:41

also John Boyega. Oh my god amazing. I'm

6:44

a John Boyega stan I feel like Star

6:46

Wars fucking wrong They did of

6:48

course they did if you have any doubts

6:50

about how amazing of an actor he is

6:53

Watch this movie and then remember that he's

6:55

fucking British like are you kidding? He just

6:57

disappears into this guy It's like you would

6:59

never know. Yeah, he does. He does that

7:02

every time he plays a role I also

7:04

feel the same way about Jamie Fox and

7:06

the lady who played yo-yo who I'm not

7:08

as familiar with was also amazing They're all

7:10

amazing Todd. You are familiar with yo-yo.

7:12

She was the female lead in New

7:14

Candyman No, I know. I know but like

7:17

I I think I've seen maybe her two or

7:19

three times on film I've seen Jamie Foxx and

7:21

John Boyega way more sure but like they all

7:23

crush it in this movie as they always do

7:25

like She was great in Candyman. Yeah, she was

7:27

great in Candyman She was also great in

7:30

dashing through the snow the ludicrous Christmas movie

7:32

Yes, I haven't seen that but I want to watch it.

7:34

I do want to see it fucking sure it's real

7:36

fun Yeah, it's a good one. She's in the

7:38

Marvel's which I haven't seen yet, but I want

7:40

to I heard good thing I'm waiting for it

7:42

to go to Disney Plus I'm no longer in

7:44

a season of my life where I watch super

7:47

hero movies, so I probably won't catch that one

7:49

Okay, Todd, can I propose a new

7:51

season of your life where you only

7:53

watch films that are hyper stylized black

7:55

stories about how? The white

7:57

man has poisoned their community because I have

8:00

have a list for you. They are

8:02

all fantastic. That sounds like Todd. Start

8:04

with Black Dynamite. I do like that.

8:06

I like that genre of film. I

8:08

like those documentaries, because they actually happen.

8:10

I like Behind the Bastards, you know?

8:13

Like, it's all the same thing. When

8:15

it comes to Hyper-stylize though, I can

8:17

like pepper it in on my movies.

8:19

I can do one, like probably like

8:21

one for 10 with

8:23

Hyper-stylizeism. I, cause

8:26

they either work or they don't.

8:28

I wish every movie. Hyper-stylize? I'll

8:30

take Hyper-stylize every time. Every time.

8:33

No, no, no, no. But the one you

8:35

remember that are Hyper-stylize, I think I'll remember

8:37

this one for it, but like Sin City

8:39

is Hyper-stylize in a different way, but it's

8:41

Hyper-stylize, right? I have a hot take here.

8:43

Go. For every Sin City, there's

8:45

that other one that was black, like the Spirit or

8:47

whatever. Oh, that one was terrible.

8:50

Like, like horror films, stylized

8:52

films like One in 10 are really good.

8:54

No. And then no one remembers

8:56

the Nine out of 10. No, no. For

8:58

Hyper-stylize movies? Yes. First of all, they're tough

9:00

to do. So usually the

9:03

people that do them are

9:05

actually doing well in other

9:07

parts of the movie. Think

9:09

about Drive, Hyper-stylize, this Hyper-stylize,

9:11

most Quentin Tarantino movies, Hyper-stylize.

9:14

Yeah, one out of 10. Like the list goes

9:16

on. If you think of some of the

9:18

best movies that people are like, oh, that

9:21

movie was fucking awesome, most of them are

9:23

Hyper-stylize. I prefer it, personally. But for

9:25

every one that's amazing, there's a bunch of

9:27

trash Hyper-stylize films. That's all I'm saying. Name

9:30

trash ones outside of that one. Drive?

9:32

Drive is not a trash movie. Drive

9:34

is awesome. I love

9:36

Drive as well. That elevator scene

9:38

is one of the sexiest scenes

9:40

I've ever seen in my life,

9:42

Paige. I agree. Most Tarantino films?

9:44

No. Yeah, like Tarantino's got

9:46

two great films. The rest are like

9:48

fine. A hard pass. When he was

9:50

like, my next film's my last, I

9:52

was like, okay, cool, whatever, bro. Like

9:54

you can go back to not making

9:56

good films again. Okay, no, no, no.

9:58

We're gonna start. throw some

10:00

fucking hands right now because I

10:02

will argue that after Sally Menke

10:04

died the editing has fallen off

10:06

That's exactly my point. Yeah, I agree. I agree But

10:09

there's only been two since then so

10:11

you're discounting in glorious bastards Pulp Fiction

10:14

both Kill Bills and Reservoir Dogs I

10:16

understand that like he has a person

10:18

he is polarizing Those are

10:21

all really good movies that are cultural

10:23

touchstones and most of them are overrated

10:25

I'm just gonna go ahead and say

10:27

it like kill are disagree overrated agree

10:29

So you would rather have movies where no

10:31

one tried to make anything look cool ever? No,

10:34

I want I want a bunch of movies For

10:36

everybody. I'm just saying it's the law of averages

10:38

I mean like you're gonna make you take in

10:40

stylized movies one's gonna be amazing One's gonna be

10:42

super trash and then most are gonna be right

10:44

in the middle. That's how it is No,

10:46

so you're gonna you're gonna be like fuck Tron Fuck

10:49

everything that's ever made anything cool

10:52

looking fuck everything by Ari Aster

10:54

fuck everything like yes Fuck

10:56

everything by Ari Aster And

11:01

they're universally agreed upon that's

11:03

your that's an opinion these

11:05

are opinions I can have different one like

11:07

I Like I

11:09

don't like my summer and I don't like this.

11:11

I did not like I

11:14

still haven't seen but was afraid but I would

11:16

rather have people take chances than not

11:18

I agree But part of taking chances

11:20

is you will fail I guess but

11:22

I feel like most of the things we've listed

11:24

did not fail So I would rather take the

11:27

weird shit. Give me the weird shit every day

11:29

I mean like I hated poor things

11:31

but like I get that people like

11:33

that You know so like people like

11:35

hyper stylized like things poor things getting

11:38

more Poor things is loved in

11:40

Hollywood poor things is not loved outside of it

11:42

I know a lot of people that love poor

11:44

things and this is coming from someone who hated

11:46

it I thought it was terrible, but like

11:48

a lot of people do really like it I

11:50

know a lot of people who liked not as much as like Barbie and opera

11:52

high Not as much as like Barbie and opera high All

11:55

that's I'm just saying you know like

11:57

Barbie was highly stylized, and I thought that was an incredible

12:00

film. Yes, right. Because it is. You know, but

12:02

poor things gets all the nominations, more nominations than

12:04

Barbie. Well because it's the movie that touches on

12:06

the similar themes as Barbie but was made by

12:08

a man. So like it is okay to celebrate.

12:11

Yeah, yeah, I get that. Uh-huh. Yeah, so I

12:13

mean it's fine and listen I get the people

12:15

love poor things and I have shitty taste in

12:17

movies because I don't like it or whatever they

12:19

say to me. But like I didn't care for

12:22

it that much and I think Barbie was way

12:24

better than any movie that came out all last

12:26

year. I think I agree and that's what I

12:29

it's like that that's the thing is that

12:31

like they're comparing for it like you know I

12:33

just think hyper stylism works some

12:35

of the time and sometimes just like any other

12:37

type of film. But I think Paige's point

12:40

is also valid. I mean it's like a

12:42

lot of people do really love it like

12:44

I love the hyper stylist version of this

12:46

film but Mikey I'm not saying you're wrong.

12:48

I think when anyone tries anything they're either

12:50

gonna succeed or fail or find some weird

12:52

middle ground that's not also great and the

12:54

law of averages suggests that the majority of

12:56

them will find the lower categories. I

12:58

liked I really liked the style of

13:01

this film and I really liked this film. I'm

13:03

just saying like some of them aren't

13:05

good. That's all I'm saying. I

13:07

mean yes! There are tons of movies that

13:09

get made every year that like aren't good.

13:11

I'm not gonna name a list of stylized

13:13

films that aren't good. I can have an

13:15

opinion because I think a lot of the

13:17

Tarantino stuff is super overrated and so is

13:19

Ari Aster stuff. I'm not alone in that.

13:22

No, I mean you're in the minority for a

13:24

lot of stuff but like I will say that

13:26

of all the films you've listed I've heard too

13:28

that I'm like yeah maybe that's not great. So

13:31

for me the law of averages says that 80% of the time

13:33

I'm gonna like a highly

13:36

stylized thing. Yeah I mean

13:38

I think that I like hyper

13:40

stylist things normally too. And I

13:42

just I'm like try something different. For every Tron

13:45

there's a Tron 2. That's

13:47

all I'm saying. Yeah, the

13:49

sequels are bad. They did

13:51

the original hyper stylized one. That's

13:53

the one where they chose to

13:55

make that stylistic choice. I

13:58

love that we are literally a group. And

14:00

we are just finding a way to argue about

14:02

how we agree that some movies aren't great. We're

14:05

not! Mikey told me that every movie I hit,

14:07

my eye like is like dog shit

14:09

basically. But who gives a shit?

14:11

It's just like his opinion. No!

14:13

You said every stylized movie is

14:15

great! That is a wild assumption.

14:18

No! I said most of the

14:20

time, hyper stylized movies are great.

14:22

Yeah, cool! And the fact

14:25

that there's so many of them, our cult

14:27

classic speaks to that. Yes! I

14:30

politely agree to disagree. Yeah,

14:32

like all he's saying is his opinion

14:34

differs from your opinion and you're both

14:36

entitled to your opinion. By

14:39

calling every movie I like shitty. Whatever. It's

14:41

just his opinion though, right? Like it's Mikey.

14:43

Who gives a shit about his opinion? What?

14:45

But you call movies I like shitty and

14:47

that's fair? You're up the

14:50

right to your opinion. I, sure. I

14:52

just, I feel like if all movies

14:54

didn't try, we'd have just shitty movies

14:56

all the time. Who's not trying when

14:58

they make a movie though, Paige? Like they're gonna

15:00

be giving a chance to make

15:02

a shitload of money. They're gonna phone it

15:05

in? Yes! People phone it all the time. I'm just

15:07

like, for all the movies

15:09

that like don't take chances on cool

15:11

shit and like are mediocre, like there's

15:14

so much more of that than people

15:16

who took chances on cool shit and

15:18

it was kinda cool. At a minimum. I

15:20

don't know how many films don't get made so

15:23

I have no idea. Like there's no way for

15:25

me to verify any information, so. I mean tons.

15:27

So many. So many. Sure, but like we would-

15:30

Anyway. Sorry. This is a

15:33

very silly conversation to me. Not

15:35

silly to me. It's a thing I really

15:37

like. Cool! And you're allowed to have that

15:40

if no one is saying you shouldn't think

15:42

that, Paige. Mikey just has a different opinion.

15:44

That's all I'm saying. That's how I feel.

15:46

Your feelings are valid and so are mine and that's okay. Yeah.

15:49

I liked the movie though. It was fun. Yeah. I really

15:52

liked the film. I thought it was more sci-fi than I

15:54

was expecting and I loved that because I loved science fiction.

15:56

It was way more sci-fi than I was expecting. Yeah, and

15:58

honestly way less horror which I- also appreciated, you

16:00

know? I think there's a cultural

16:03

horror to it. Oh, I mean when

16:05

they show the people chasing them out of,

16:07

I think the strip club where the DJ

16:09

like turns everyone on them and their car

16:11

starts to not work and they start to

16:13

catch up, that shot, the over it shot,

16:15

was like zombie movie chilling. Like they're not

16:17

zombies, I'm not trying to say that, but

16:19

it was like that sort of chilling. So

16:21

like I agree and there's a lot of

16:23

that but way more understated throughout the whole

16:25

movie. I just think that that's where it's

16:27

really on the nose right there. Well, I

16:29

think that and then the final plan reveal,

16:31

I think what Paige is talking about is

16:34

just horrifying. Oh, yeah. Like that whole with the

16:36

with the bodies in the background going from black to

16:38

white, I was like that is just a

16:40

terrifying prospect. It reminded me of the Catholic

16:43

Church in the movie Australia. I have never

16:45

seen that movie. They're pretty much trying to

16:47

do the same thing with the native people

16:49

from Australia. I mean that makes sense because

16:51

they did that for real. Also

16:53

historical. Yeah. But

16:56

that's more what I'm getting at is like

16:58

visually that one scene where they're chasing them.

17:01

Yes, that is the like horror

17:03

visual. But the true horror of

17:05

this movie is like you're not

17:07

wrong. They're trying to basically exterminate

17:09

you through assimilation. It is eugenics.

17:12

This movie is basically hardcore eugenics.

17:14

I mean, yeah. Yeah. I think it's a

17:17

commentary on that. I don't know. I know.

17:19

I think it's interesting. I don't think it's a

17:21

majority minority issue as much as it's a class

17:23

and privilege issue. Of

17:26

the air quotes ruling class, the people

17:28

who have had power the longest because

17:30

they subjugated other people. They

17:32

are the ones trying to force

17:34

people to assimilate. And sometimes

17:36

there will be people from other classes

17:38

who help them do that. And that

17:40

is unfortunate. And that's a thing

17:43

that they tackle in this movie as well. But

17:46

it's this idea of we keep you down

17:48

to keep the peace. Oh, yeah. That is

17:50

what this movie is all about. It's like

17:52

we we make choices about who gets to

17:55

succeed and who doesn't to keep the peace.

17:57

But who is that peace really for? for

18:00

them. It's just for the ruling class.

18:02

It is literally we keep

18:04

everyone down so we can keep the boots

18:06

on the necks. That is what this is.

18:08

Well, I mean, I think that Tyrone

18:10

or not Tyrone, but John Boyega is

18:13

character. We don't realize that he is

18:15

also- Fontaine, Chester, Tyrone. Yeah. But

18:18

let's just call him Jamie Foxx in Tyrone, right?

18:20

Because they are, we'll see multiple versions of them.

18:22

I was really glad to get that credits scene

18:24

because I was like, did they just use Tyrone

18:27

because it rhymes with clone? Because like, and I was

18:29

like, okay, now I'm good with this movie. Well,

18:32

Mikey, but yes, that is why. And also I'm

18:34

fine with it. I didn't need the post-credits scene

18:36

for me to like the title. The

18:39

post-credits scene actually, I vibed with it because

18:41

I have never met a Fontaine, but I

18:43

have met many Tyrones. And so I think

18:45

it's kind of regional. I dated someone whose

18:47

last name was Fontaine. Do not recommend. But

18:49

what I was going to say is, I

18:52

think John Boyega's character sort of wakes

18:54

up to the realization that like he

18:56

is a society created boogeyman that society

18:59

uses to scare people into letting them

19:01

control them. Does that make sense? You

19:03

mean standing by and not speaking up when

19:05

they see that control happening? No, I think

19:08

they view him as the stereotype of terror.

19:10

We don't really see it play out

19:12

outside of the community. But if you

19:14

don't think that quotes like inner city

19:16

violence or whatever is not also used

19:18

as an excuse to police everyone in

19:20

the US. Oh, I see

19:22

what you're saying. Okay. Okay. We don't see that

19:24

play out in this movie, but I think if they

19:26

go to Memphis and we get a second one of

19:28

these, which I would fucking love, I would

19:31

love for them to explore that as well, where it's

19:33

like it's not like society creates

19:35

them in this movie. So yeah,

19:37

society literally creates them to

19:39

be bad guys to then be able

19:41

to control that group. Right.

19:44

That is this movie. Right. Oh, okay.

19:46

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

19:48

then I think if you pull out

19:50

another lens, they use that same fear

19:52

to control everybody, not just that group.

19:54

Yeah. But that's not played out in

19:56

this movie. They do, but they don't

19:59

show it. do talk about it. Yeah.

20:01

That's what Kiefer Sutherland is getting at

20:03

is that like you get to be

20:05

the bad guy so that they have

20:08

someone to hate that's not each other.

20:10

Right. Which is how this works. Like

20:12

when you have like in classism this

20:14

plays out great, great. That's a terrible

20:16

word. And you see this play out

20:19

in classism a lot where they manage

20:21

to get poor white people to hate

20:23

poor black people as if they're the

20:25

problem when the problem is the person

20:28

that has created the societal structures to

20:30

keep both of those people down.

20:32

It's literally that white, that poor white

20:34

person's boss or both their bosses or the

20:36

venture capital company that owns the company they

20:38

work for. Exactly. Like there are so many

20:41

layers of like classism that goes on and

20:43

you can't really see more than like two

20:45

layers above yours even though there's probably like

20:47

eight. And all of this is intersectional

20:49

too. So it's like you've got you

20:52

know classism as a construct that you

20:54

know helps perpetuate the system. But then

20:56

also racism because people of

20:58

color are more likely to

21:00

experience the harms of classism,

21:02

poverty, all of it. Right.

21:04

Well because of institutionalized problems

21:06

like redlining and shit that still happens and like

21:09

all of that there's like I grew up a

21:12

poor white kid and I had way more

21:14

advantages than middle class black people I grew

21:17

up with. Yeah of course. Like I just

21:19

did. Like I understand that. Right. Like I

21:21

think of everything as a class problem but

21:23

it's not just that. Right. So much of

21:26

that is already racist because racism is sort

21:28

of baked into classism if that makes sense

21:30

because of a lot of institutionalized problems we

21:32

have in this country. Well and you

21:34

know hey white people got a multi

21:37

hundred year head start on having the

21:39

class privilege in this country because of

21:41

racism and slavery. What's they do cover

21:44

in this movie a little bit? They grew that

21:46

wealth in the south on the backs of those

21:48

people who we stole and brought over here. Like

21:50

I'm so I understand like I definitely understand you

21:52

know and it's terrible and wrong and I'm sorry.

21:55

Right. That's why I think I like these types

21:57

of themes on film. I think that's why I

21:59

like it. I like Get Out so much. Yeah.

22:02

Get Out is still probably one of my

22:04

favorite versions of this because it really does

22:06

play out as a

22:09

possession horror with this. But

22:12

from a sci-fi perspective, I loved

22:14

this movie because I feel like

22:16

this is a deep, deep

22:19

cut sci-fi premise but

22:22

set in the most unlikely place. Yes.

22:25

And I was so surprised how deep sci-fi it

22:27

goes. Oh yeah. Right. I

22:29

was like, it's like science fiction, but I was like, no, this is

22:31

like very science fiction-y. I

22:34

mean, not to bring in the first John

22:36

Boyega movie I ever saw him in,

22:38

chronologically at least for his age, like the

22:40

youngest I ever saw him on film was

22:42

an Attack the Block, which is also

22:44

similar themes, maybe a little bit different, but

22:47

like similar and very sci-fi,

22:49

which I was here for. Like I

22:51

think John Boyega has found himself in

22:53

two great horror sci-fi movies and those

22:55

are already rare, so like good for

22:58

him. Okay, this is a thought I

23:00

had while watching this movie. Is

23:02

John Boyega's character in Attack the Block

23:04

another Tyrone? I mean, yeah, probably

23:07

because they use the same, like we

23:09

are, the end of it like sets

23:11

up that they use the same bodies

23:13

in different cities, right? Yeah. So

23:16

yes. And of course he would have his, I don't

23:18

even know if that's his regular talking voice that

23:20

he uses in Attack the Block. In Attack

23:22

the Block it is. That's his first

23:24

movie ever. Like they found him in

23:26

the neighborhood and were like, you, and

23:28

he's amazing. Yeah, but clearly he can

23:30

do accents because like there's no telling that

23:32

he is not like an American guy in

23:35

this movie. Like he crushes it. Anyway, but

23:37

yeah, to answer your question, yes, I think

23:39

it is. But this transitions to my first

23:41

favorite topic of the day. Okay. The

23:43

new Star Wars trilogy is the worst trilogy of

23:46

all time and they did John Boyega the most

23:48

dirty of that trilogy. They did, they did.

23:50

Before we get to that though,

23:52

not only does he appear American

23:55

in this movie, multiple different kinds,

23:57

right? Yeah. So wherever the Glen is,

23:59

which they. keep very vague but it

24:01

does seem potentially southern but then

24:04

when they go to Los Angeles and

24:06

it's specifically Los Angeles it changes

24:08

his whole affect changes because that's the Tyrone

24:11

that fits in Los Angeles. Well that's the

24:13

one that was raised there like who

24:15

yeah that subtlety is a mate well

24:17

here's the thing he wasn't raised there he

24:19

doesn't exist he's a clone I mean technically

24:22

the three days that he lived he was raised

24:24

there he was raised there but

24:26

it's that subtlety in his performance that

24:28

makes this just so good so good.

24:30

Wait do you think the clone that

24:33

was in San Francisco didn't live in San

24:35

Francisco like he just showed up three days

24:37

ago at the end of this movie? An

24:39

indeterminate amount of time. Indeterminate amount of

24:41

time we don't know. But his mom definitely doesn't

24:43

exist in that place too. Exactly his mom

24:45

doesn't exist in that place too so it

24:47

could just be a couple days but also

24:49

that clone would definitely be well forced out

24:52

of Oakland into Vallejo because of gentrification but

24:54

you know yeah I think they only live

24:56

for a couple days or however long until

24:58

they have to replace them. I don't think

25:00

the John Boyega that we spend most of

25:02

the movie with which is actually like four

25:04

different John Boyega's yeah I don't think he

25:06

was ever a child I don't think he

25:09

actually grew up there like

25:11

this also gives me us vibes. Jordan Peele

25:13

works in this area a lot but

25:15

I think that this is very much

25:17

a kind of Stepford wife situation in

25:19

a way this is like Stepford

25:22

wives writ large over this community

25:24

as opposed to white waspy communities

25:26

where they're just plugging people in

25:28

as if they're like a mannequin

25:30

but they live and very fascinating.

25:32

Sure yeah I guess I

25:35

think the reason for the disconnect of what we're

25:37

saying is because when I say John Boyega

25:39

has been in San Francisco since this program

25:41

started nationwide. Right maybe. I mean John Boyega

25:44

as a character in that community as someone

25:46

people have like known and like he's like

25:48

growing up there. I do agree that that

25:50

version of that John Boyega whose name is

25:53

Tyrone I realize this is very confusing right

25:55

has probably only been actually alive for like

25:57

four or five days yeah. Also it

26:00

It is Los Angeles, not San Francisco at the end

26:02

of the movie, but anyway. Oh sorry, sorry, sorry.

26:04

It is. Clearly. You're right. You're right. I felt

26:06

like they had been in place for a while

26:08

because they had routines and people knew them. So

26:10

I think they're ingrained in the community. More than

26:13

four or five days. Yes, but they did get

26:15

planted there somehow, somewhere. Right. And here's

26:17

the other thing. Other people are

26:19

planted and also planted with memories,

26:21

right? Yeah. Because Jamie Foxx is

26:23

also planted, right? So I think

26:25

a lot of the people that

26:27

know him and reference him are

26:29

also planted. They are also clones.

26:31

Like this is where it gets

26:33

into a little bit of the

26:35

us question for me because it's

26:37

like, how many of these people

26:39

are clones? How many have doubles?

26:41

And it seems like most,

26:44

like we do find out

26:46

that Yo-Yo doesn't have a clone.

26:48

No, they don't. I think that's more

26:50

a commentary on how little they value both

26:53

women and sex workers and specifically

26:55

women and sex workers of color because

26:58

she's, to use a

27:00

terrible term, the less dead. That is what they call

27:02

them. No one looks for her. No one

27:04

cares. Then that's why. Yeah. Well,

27:06

if you look at all the clones

27:08

in those things that they're decanting the smoke out

27:11

of to see who they are. There are

27:13

women. There are a few, but it's

27:15

mainly guys. Yes, it's mainly guys. There

27:17

are women though. It's such an

27:19

interesting concept to think that, you know,

27:22

a big government organization or I don't

27:24

know if it's government or when the

27:26

secret society, big, some big evil organization

27:29

is cloning people to perpetuate societal divisions

27:31

and like the worst stereotypes and things

27:33

like that. I thought that was such

27:35

an interesting sci-fi concept and very

27:38

scary. But the way they did it

27:40

here, I thought was really, just really, really good. I

27:42

really, really liked it. I liked it a lot too.

27:45

It was fun to watch too. Like Jamie Foxx is

27:47

very funny in this movie. Yeah. Every

27:49

word out of his mouth hilarious. He nails

27:51

it. So good. Every movie he intends to

27:53

be funny in, he is so funny. And I

27:56

mean, he also does movies like Ray where it's

27:58

not very funny, but he's fucking amazing. Like

28:00

I love Jamie Foxx. He's dude's great. There

28:02

there are also a lot of really

28:05

fun Callbacks in this

28:07

movie if you watch movies like this

28:09

or even horror movies like did you

28:11

notice at the end? He's pulled across

28:13

an all-white version of the shining carpet.

28:15

Yeah, I did notice the carpet

28:17

Yeah stuff like that But like specifically

28:19

an all-way one you Todd have not seen

28:21

black dynamite and I kind of don't want

28:23

to spoil this for you So earmuffs, I'll forget it.

28:26

You're fine. Cool. So black dynamite

28:28

has a similar premise

28:30

in that they're utilizing things

28:33

that black people Stereotypically

28:35

like to control them. Yeah. Okay.

28:37

So in this movie, it's the

28:40

chicken it is the hair products

28:42

It's the grape juice grape drink,

28:44

please grape drink grape grape drink and

28:47

Music right in black

28:49

dynamite. It's anaconda malt

28:51

liquor which comes in 40s So

28:54

I thought it was really really interesting that

28:56

we see part of John Boyega's routine every

28:58

single day Is to get a 40 and

29:01

I kept trying to look at the the label

29:03

to see if it was anaconda You can't really

29:06

see it. Yeah, you can't see it But

29:08

I thought it was funny that that was one

29:10

of the few things that wasn't That

29:14

it was like everything but the thing Yeah,

29:19

because it is very clearly a 40 at

29:22

least, you know, yes And I honestly love that

29:24

every day he gets out he scratches up that

29:26

lottery ticket. It's like you lose every day Well,

29:28

I love that he eventually he scratches all four

29:30

and they all said you lose Yeah, because they

29:32

had no intention of letting him ever win.

29:34

Yep. They're gonna keep him down. Yeah, that's the

29:37

whole thing Love that. Well, that's the lottery

29:39

as well. Everyone. Yeah. Yeah, like you're probably

29:41

not Sometimes

29:46

I fuck with it. I'm not gonna lie like a

29:48

billion So it's a hard thing to say no to

29:50

a billion is a billion I but I think it's

29:52

just one of those Multiple little

29:54

Easter eggs that are like you

29:56

will never get farther because the

29:59

game is engineered against you. And that's

30:01

a hundred percent what this movie is

30:03

and what it's dealing with. Love it. I mean,

30:05

I really do like this movie a lot. Yeah, I

30:07

do too. But maybe we should just go through it

30:09

scene by scene because it's a pretty long, well, it's a

30:11

two-hour movie. I love the opening sequence. I

30:14

love the first 10 minutes, like the opening

30:16

sequence, like building the world, because it has

30:18

this quality about it where it builds a

30:20

realistic stylized like version of the world. But

30:23

it's different enough and kind of sci-fi enough

30:25

that it feels almost like

30:27

a video game. Like the world building

30:29

is like really intricate and awesome. And

30:31

then like it does come back. It

30:35

really did remind me of the Fallout

30:37

video game. I know you mentioned that

30:39

before, and I agree. I could definitely

30:41

see how you got there. There's all

30:43

these fake products, like crazy science and

30:45

like manipulation and like horrible things that

30:47

people are doing to one another and

30:50

monstrosities. And like, it's really like a

30:52

cornerstone of the Fallout video game series.

30:54

And it's very hard sci-fi where they're

30:56

doing underground experimentation on people and things of that

30:58

nature. So it just like really reminded me of that.

31:00

And I was, I'm

31:03

a dork. So it was really fun. You know

31:05

what I wanted to see in here that wasn't

31:07

in here? Soul Glow

31:09

from Coming to America. I

31:11

know. Well, I feel like the

31:14

Soul Glow was the version they used in the 80s.

31:16

No, no, I think the perm products are

31:19

supposed to kind of be an homage to

31:21

that a little bit. Okay. Nice. Yeah.

31:23

I really liked how, obviously

31:25

this is a sci-fi, horror adjacent film.

31:28

I like how the first 20 or

31:30

so minutes of this watch

31:33

like a premium cable show about

31:35

drug dealers. Oh, yeah. It's almost

31:37

like you just popped in on

31:40

an episode of Power. And

31:42

I was all about it. I was

31:45

like, yes, this is great. And

31:47

then we kind of like hard cut into

31:49

what the fuck is this when we get

31:51

to the lab. Yeah. But I love that

31:53

the movie kind of sets up exactly

31:56

this whole world and a world that we're

31:58

familiar with from an entertainment. standpoint.

32:00

Yeah. Right? But it does feel

32:03

othery. It's the light. It's the glowy

32:05

light. The way they direct it and

32:07

set it up and like the product

32:09

placements and stuff. It just feels... It's

32:12

too good. Yes. It has a feeling

32:14

of evil lurking behind it. You

32:16

know? Yes. That's what it is. You know, dread.

32:18

If there's a feeling of dread in this first

32:20

opening sequence but it's more of a realistic sequence

32:22

and I really like that. I feel like

32:24

part of the feeling of dread and

32:27

it is done very subtly is that

32:29

everything in these opening sequences is the

32:33

stereotype version, right? Like

32:35

everyone's driving old

32:37

but shiny Cadillacs. Every

32:40

pimp is in furs. Every

32:42

hotel has fluorescent lights. All

32:44

the products are gimmicky and

32:46

commercials are kind of heightened. I

32:48

love the commercials. But to a

32:50

stereotype level. Yes. So it's almost

32:52

as if when we're seeing this

32:54

opening sequence and we're seeing the

32:56

world building it's like this is

32:58

what white people think this world

33:00

is. Yeah. This is their grand

33:02

theft auto version of it. So

33:04

much so that you can't really tell and I

33:07

think this is on purpose through like the stylized nature

33:09

of it. Exactly what year it is. Like at the

33:11

very beginning I thought it was like 78 you

33:14

know? Because everyone's driving like Coupe de Ville's

33:16

and shit or whatever those cars are. And you

33:18

don't know where it is technically

33:20

either. Exactly. It's the Glen baby but where

33:22

is the Glen? Yeah you don't know. But

33:24

like it reminds me of it's like an

33:26

Andrew Nicoll thing where like they do that

33:28

close like near future where it's like you

33:30

can't really tell what time period it is.

33:32

Right. And I really like that about this

33:34

movie. And to me they could have like

33:36

pulled the camera back at the Glen at

33:39

the very end and it just been in

33:41

this giant dome in the desert or whatever

33:43

and it still would have made sense. Andrew

33:45

Nicoll wrote the Truman Show. Yeah like it's

33:47

that kind of thing. Yeah yeah yeah. Right.

33:49

So yeah absolutely Mikey. He also did Gattaca

33:51

which is like love it and

33:53

Simone. Anyway great movies. Anyway

33:55

yeah. So we're in the movie right

33:58

so we get a conversation outside. the

34:00

local bodega, we quickly

34:02

meet Fontaine, who is John Boyega's

34:04

character, through Junebug, who is kind

34:06

of like the little neighborhood kid who's

34:08

trying to get in with the local

34:11

gang of drug dealers. He wants to

34:13

be put on a corner, and

34:15

John Boyega won't because we will find

34:18

out. Junebug reminds him of his little brother.

34:20

Yeah, he has some very specific trauma that won't

34:22

allow him to harm this child by putting him

34:24

on the corner as a drug dealer. Very nice.

34:27

That sort of makes him a hero

34:29

in the eyes of the audience, right?

34:31

Well, he has specific trauma memories, but

34:33

he didn't really go through that trauma.

34:35

Yeah, it's implanted. Right, it's not his.

34:38

Yeah, he didn't actually live through it. Okay,

34:40

but if you were implanted that memory

34:42

and all that grief you went through,

34:45

like you had that trauma. Okay,

34:47

but let's talk about it because

34:49

that's the movie's analog for generational

34:52

and cultural trauma that is passed

34:54

down. It does get passed down and you

34:56

live with it. I think that this movie is

34:58

pointing that out. Yes. Well, I was

35:00

going to say, even delusional people, if they're traumatized by their

35:03

delusion, it's still real and the emotion is really real, but

35:05

we can move on. Anyway, so Junebug, and

35:07

I think the movie does a really good job.

35:09

We also know Junebug's not a clone because he's

35:11

a child, or at least as far as we

35:13

know. He might just be there. They can clone

35:16

children, Paige. Maybe they did though

35:18

because the white man be evil. So

35:21

maybe they did clone a child and

35:23

they place him there to pull on

35:25

John Boyega's heartstrings. Who knows? But

35:27

I feel like the movie works

35:29

to remind you that he's just

35:31

a kid and he's just a

35:33

normal kid and that's why he's

35:35

like, did you watch SpongeBob? You're

35:37

a real Squidward. He's

35:40

doing kid stuff. He shouldn't be on a corner. He's

35:43

just a kid. But what Junebug has

35:46

done is found out where the other drug

35:48

dealers are and then went and told Fontaine

35:50

so Fontaine can take care of it. So

35:52

literally in the very first scene, we see

35:55

Fontaine just hit a guy with his Cadillac

35:57

and break his legs. And

35:59

that guy... that character is still in

36:01

the rest of them, never goes to

36:03

the hospital, probably because health

36:05

insurance, but he just

36:07

limps through the rest

36:09

of the movie and we see him

36:12

multiple times. He finally gets crutches at

36:14

one point, like towards the end, but like

36:16

he is limping without them for a while.

36:18

But he's also firing a gun on crutches,

36:20

so like he has to just kind of

36:23

like crutch, crutch, crutch, stand still, fire a

36:25

gun, and he's in the background a ton.

36:27

It's so funny. You don't get sick days

36:29

in the streets, Paige. You don't get sick

36:31

days in the streets. No, you

36:34

don't. Somebody's gotta be in the corner. Like your

36:36

reaction to that was my favorite, the trying not

36:38

to laugh at it. But it's, you don't. But

36:40

that guy with the broken legs calls Isaac,

36:42

who is the rival drug dealer, especially because

36:44

John Boyega like hits that guy with his

36:47

car, gets out, runs his pockets, takes his

36:49

gun in his cash, and he's

36:51

out. Yeah. But he then drops off June Bug, and

36:53

June Bug is like, put me on. He's like, no,

36:55

do your homework and go be a kid. Bye. He

36:58

drives away, goes back to Bodega, gets his

37:00

real as a scratch offs and a 40.

37:02

He comes home. He sees his brother's funeral

37:04

program on the fridge. He makes some sandwiches.

37:07

He goes to take them to his mom.

37:09

She doesn't come out of her room. She says she's

37:11

fine. He sits down, and this is

37:13

the first time we see the commercial for Hot

37:15

Box fried chicken. Goddamn

37:17

fried chicken. It looks delicious.

37:20

Well, she says she ate at a fish

37:22

fry earlier. And this is important because she

37:24

says the exact same thing like an hour

37:26

later in the movie. And he like

37:28

in the movie. Yes, this is how he

37:30

realizes she's not real. Yeah. But this is

37:32

why I think that like, I don't know

37:35

how long john boyega as a character in

37:37

this world has been there. Because

37:39

how long would it take for you to open

37:41

that door? Not that long. Right.

37:44

So that's why I'm like, how long has

37:46

this actually been happening? Or how long have

37:48

they convinced him that his mom is around?

37:50

Or maybe they just replace him every time

37:52

he gets too curious? I don't know. I'm

37:54

sure they've had to replace them for doing what he

37:56

does where he breaks on the door, like realizes what

37:59

the fuck is happening. and breaks

38:01

the intercom. Yeah, I've seen Westworld.

38:03

I, yeah, not only Westworld, I was gonna

38:05

say a less good movie that also came

38:07

out this year. And I say, here's the

38:09

thing, I say less good, I did enjoy

38:11

it. I just think this movie is better.

38:14

Is the one that Olivia Wilde directed? The

38:16

remake of Stepford Watch. The remake of Stepford

38:18

Watch. I actually sort of liked it too,

38:20

but I understand why people see it as a

38:22

remake of Stepford Watch. Or maybe like a heavy

38:24

homage to it, right? Heavy. I

38:26

did the flip at the end of kind of

38:29

what they were doing. But that was another one

38:31

where they were like, oh, just reboot her. You

38:33

know, or whatever. But I think that kind of

38:35

idea of like, as soon as he figures out

38:37

that the mom is just a recording, we take

38:39

him out. Yeah, that movie was Don't Worry Darling,

38:41

by the way. That's what it was. Don't Worry

38:43

Darling. Thank you. I did like it. Anyway,

38:46

so he sits down on the couch, his

38:48

friend comes over. Now, his friend, he only

38:50

has a couple lines in like two or

38:52

three scenes of this movie and he's hilarious

38:54

every time. He comes in and he's

38:57

like, I'm hotter than a motherfucker. He's got

38:59

a wet towel on his head and a

39:01

personal fan. The next time we see him,

39:03

he gives a whole lecture on hydration. That

39:06

he's like, we're not drinking enough water. We

39:08

have water. It's amazing. That dude is

39:10

subscribed to the hydration homie subreddit. Like I'm

39:12

100% sure he is. I'm

39:14

not gonna lie to you, I fixed a big glass

39:17

of water after his little tirade on water. Because I

39:19

was like, you know what? That is probably why I

39:21

had a slight headache this morning. Yeah. He takes the

39:23

magnesium and drink a shit little water today. Gotta hydrate

39:25

them joints. But he brings over what

39:27

looks like a pizza, but they open the pizza

39:29

box and it's a bunch of money that he

39:32

has collected from their various primeras around on the

39:34

corners. Yeah, I sort of got the vibe that

39:36

like Jamba Ege's character was like the head

39:38

of his like little gang and this guy

39:40

was like his like second in command and

39:43

he was collecting from all the guys that

39:45

they have out on the corner or whatever.

39:47

That structure is. If there's one

39:49

thing I've learned from watching now eight

39:51

seasons of Power Universe shows, it

39:54

is that most drug operations

39:56

function like a multi-level

39:59

marketing. or pyramid scheme. Oh

40:01

yeah. Where he is essentially collecting from

40:03

his down line. I would

40:06

say he's probably middle management. I'm sure there's

40:08

somebody above him or not because he's a

40:10

clone. Well I think that's also the

40:12

point page. There is someone above him. Right.

40:14

That someone is the government. Right. Right. So

40:18

what's being cracked into the

40:20

community. I think that's the

40:22

point because that legit happens. Everybody's got

40:24

a boss. That's what they said. Anyway

40:27

the count is light which

40:29

means somebody didn't turn in and his friend

40:31

is like yeah I couldn't find Slick Charles.

40:33

I checked this one hotel and they're like

40:35

isn't that where he usually is and he's

40:37

like yeah but he wasn't there. Let's go

40:39

check. So they drive out.

40:42

They ask I think it's Biddy. I

40:44

think they're all Biddy's the one they're

40:46

always asking for information but they ask

40:48

Biddy about where Slick Charles is and

40:50

they find out he has moved to

40:52

a room at the Royal. Yeah. The

40:54

Royal when they arrive we

40:56

do see the broken leg guy and Isaac are

40:58

there waiting in a car for later.

41:00

Right. But the Royal has what I

41:02

can only describe as the greatest lavender

41:05

mauve fluorescent lighting over

41:08

every door. Like

41:11

it is. It's cool. There is a

41:13

motel like this in Chinatown in downtown

41:15

LA that is all fluorescent lighting and

41:17

I have taken so many pictures of

41:19

it just from the window of my

41:22

car because it glows at night and

41:24

it looks really cool but

41:26

this looks kind of like that. It's

41:28

just it has kind of a like

41:30

a video game glow in a weird

41:32

way but we cut

41:35

to Slick Charles's room where

41:37

Slick Charles and Yo-Yo are having an

41:39

argument and it is one of my

41:42

favorite scenes of the entire movie because

41:44

she is detailing the last job

41:46

that she went on as a sex

41:48

worker explaining why she does not have

41:51

the payout that Slick Charles aka

41:53

Jamie Fox expects and they

41:55

almost like a relationship argument. I

41:57

know. He's like well fine I'm

41:59

leaving because I'm getting into the

42:01

blockchain and I was like, oh, she's gonna

42:03

be a crypto girlie. Okay, and she walks

42:05

out and if this was like 2013

42:09

she was about to be hella rich, you know

42:13

Coins a scam but blockchains where it's at so

42:15

maybe she's like too smart to fall for it

42:17

and it's later You know, yeah or

42:20

and oh man cuz I did that crypto gig

42:23

I meant to ask you how that went. I have so

42:25

many thoughts I I found

42:27

out they have factions within and that was

42:30

fascinating where they're like, of course they do that the

42:32

Twitter crypto people and the LinkedIn crypto people

42:34

don't really mix and The

42:37

Twitter crypto people are like the crypto people

42:39

we see in documentaries and the LinkedIn crypto

42:41

people are like Actually, if we

42:43

thought about leveraging this technology in the

42:45

way and you're like you might be

42:47

a genius fuck Oh, no, like what

42:49

were they're like actually realistic about the

42:51

tech anyway They're more like her in this

42:54

because they're interested in the blockchain part of it

42:56

that actually right right right technology down Anyway

43:01

she leaves but I do love the Jamie

43:03

brothers like catch your breath before he passed out They're

43:06

back and forth this entire

43:08

movie is phenomenal. It seems so natural

43:11

between them I assumed it was ad libbed in

43:13

the scene like they were just like yeah you

43:15

two Yeah Have these tent poles to argue about

43:17

just argue and we'll play it out a few

43:20

times and we'll cut it together Right

43:22

like it seems like they're just playing there

43:24

I love that love it are there like

43:26

really close friends in real life or something?

43:29

Cuz like or they're just amazing actors or

43:31

they're just both awesome Yeah, like I'm

43:34

just saying they're so good at it It feels

43:36

like you're living in this very silly scene and

43:38

everyone's like 100% genuine and I love it Love

43:41

it. But as yo, yo is walking

43:43

out. She passes John Boyega or

43:45

Fontaine is just like room 107 Like

43:48

he immediately gives him up Immediately

43:50

and so he knocks on the door Jamie Foxx opens

43:53

it but as he's opening he's like, yeah I call

43:55

you yo-yo cuz you always come right back the

44:00

length of time between when he opens

44:02

the door, sees it's John Boyega closes

44:05

it, and then opens it back

44:07

up again for him. Because it's like

44:09

15 seconds, and I mean that literally,

44:11

and that's a long time. And he's

44:13

like, he's clearly coming up with a

44:15

plan because he has not sold the

44:17

stuff, he has used the stuff, so

44:19

he has no money to give John

44:21

Boyega. So he opens the door and

44:24

he's like, hey man, you

44:26

owe me money because that stuff

44:28

was good or whatever. I

44:31

thought that shit was so funny. He opens

44:33

the door, screams, shuts it, then

44:36

he does like a lap around the

44:38

room. I was like, what am I going

44:40

to do? What am I going to do? He's here, what am I

44:42

going to do? And then comes back. It's like a long time

44:44

to reopen the door. And John Boyega is

44:46

still just standing there waiting. Oh, yeah,

44:48

the comedic timing of this movie is... It's

44:52

so good. But John Boyega immediately

44:54

just tosses the room because he's

44:56

like, I know you're full of

44:58

shit. I know there's money here.

45:01

Like, whatever. And the whole

45:03

time Jamie Foxx is like following him around, he's like,

45:05

you can't do this to me. I was

45:07

the player's club's 1995 simp of the

45:09

year, which is his one claim to fame. And

45:11

it's so funny every time he talks about it.

45:14

But John Boyega finds a roll of cash in the

45:16

heater on the wall. And

45:18

Jamie Foxx is like, that's my contingency money. And he's

45:20

like, I'm taking it. And he's like, well,

45:23

we could pay for this another way. And he's like, no,

45:25

I am taking it. So

45:27

he gets in this car, he counts

45:30

the money, but who should block him

45:32

in with another Cadillac? Is

45:34

Isaac, the guy who is the

45:37

other drug boss, I guess, whose

45:39

downline got leg broke? So John Boyega

45:42

sits in the car and he's like,

45:44

oh, I know they're there. This is going to

45:46

be bad. But he gets out of the car,

45:48

immediately gets capped. Like immediately. I think he gets

45:50

shot four times, falls back into his car,

45:52

doesn't die. Doesn't die. So he raps them

45:54

a few times. Yeah. Which like, if you're

45:56

going to die, be petty about it. Of

45:59

course. Situation of worry Eddie

46:01

about it. Yeah, anyway, he eventually passes out and they

46:03

walk over there and shoot him in the head But

46:05

are just trying to escape. Well, no Mikey. I do

46:07

think he was trying to escape I don't think he

46:09

was like I'm gonna ruin their car door while I

46:12

die But yeah, I thought it was

46:14

funny that he did though, but also, you know ruin

46:16

their car door They

46:18

shot you look a car door. Yeah, so

46:20

they double-tappin so he's definitely dead They drive

46:22

away Jamie Fox sees the entire thing and

46:24

is like fuck we found out yo-yo comes back

46:27

and sees it, too We don't see her seeing it,

46:29

but she mentions it later. So yo-yo actually doesn't

46:31

see this she sees the escalate exactly

46:33

him up Yeah, yeah So she sees

46:35

the other people yes Which makes sense

46:38

later because when she goes to identify

46:40

the car she identifies the escalate not

46:42

the Cadillac and they are very visibly different So

46:44

like when they pull up the house later in the

46:46

movie, I was like, well, yeah is wrong That

46:49

is not the right car. I should specify

46:51

it cuz an Escalade also a Cadillac.

46:53

Yeah, it's not an old style Like

46:55

right SUV not a not a

46:58

geford or sedan. Yeah, that's what I mean They

47:00

don't look at all alike, you know, it's very

47:02

different car completely different But John Boyega

47:04

Fontaine wakes up and goes through

47:06

his normal day as if nothing

47:08

happens He has no memory of

47:11

being shot that night But

47:13

he sees the pizza box and he's

47:15

like, oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right

47:17

I gotta go hit up Jamie Foxx

47:19

for money So he shows up a

47:21

Jamie Foxx his house now on his

47:23

way out This is where we see

47:25

the commercial for the hair products. The

47:27

straighter is greater hair products, which again

47:29

is essentially trying to work

47:31

against the Natural

47:34

hair like it is to

47:36

air quotes white a fire the hair to promote Eurocentric

47:39

beauty trends. Let's put it

47:41

that way anyway So John Boyega shows up

47:43

a Jamie Foxx house and Jamie Foxx just

47:45

says why a ghost gonna show up to

47:47

a pimp great Like

47:50

that entire movie Great

47:53

is amazing. But he's like they shot

47:56

your ass like you went through my

47:58

haberdashery's and then you full 50

48:00

cent is what he said, which

48:02

is also similarly amazing. And he's

48:05

like, Yo-Yo also saw it. So

48:07

they go to pick up Yo-Yo.

48:09

Now Yo-Yo is in the process

48:11

of negotiating with a customer. And

48:13

my favorite is she's like, you

48:15

want the Susan Sarandon? She names

48:17

all of her items after people.

48:19

And later she offers somebody

48:21

a Shalimar. It's a good runner. We never get to

48:23

see what they are. But it

48:25

is a hilarious joke runner. It is one of

48:27

my favorite runners in the movie. It's just so silly. I

48:31

think she's even saying, oh, you can't get a Susan

48:33

Sarandon for that. Maybe whatever. I

48:36

forget who the other one was. The Susan

48:38

Sarandon is the one I wrote down. She's using

48:40

them with this person. He clearly

48:42

knows what those things are. And

48:45

that to me is what's funny. That's just

48:47

the vernacular of the area in which they

48:49

live. That to

48:51

me, if I was Susan Sarandon, would be

48:53

a huge compliment. Oh, so fun. They couldn't

48:55

afford my sex act. She's

48:59

a classy lady. It depends what

49:01

it is. Because if it's like, we're going to steal

49:03

this person randomly, cut them up, and then there's like

49:06

weird things you can be named after that you don't

49:08

want to be named after. It's weird that you think

49:10

that's a sex act. Not for me personally. Right.

49:14

Yeah, but I've seen true crime. I know what's happening

49:16

in these streets. OK. But do

49:18

you think they used Susan Sarandon because

49:20

one of Susan Sarandon's most famous sex

49:22

scenes is with a clone? Yes.

49:24

I didn't know that. But yes,

49:26

now I definitely do. Rocky

49:29

Horror. Oh, shit. She

49:31

sleeps with Rocky. I forgot Rocky was a

49:33

clone and not just some dude that

49:36

he created. I mean, basically.

49:38

Yeah. But like, and so maybe that's

49:40

why. That might just be

49:42

a fun end joke. Not sure. But now Susan

49:44

Sarandon's basically like first movie. Yeah.

49:47

Anyway, I think that might be just a

49:49

fun screenwriter tip of the hat. And

49:51

she does bone down Rocky. She

49:53

does. After he marries whatever. He's

49:56

a married man at that point. It's

49:58

not great. Don't think about that. the story too much

50:01

just love Tim Curry in that movie that's

50:03

all I'm saying and the songs I love

50:05

that movie second half drag but don't disagree

50:07

still love it I do like it anyway

50:09

so they they get yo-yo in the

50:11

car and he's like did you see

50:13

me die last night she's like not

50:15

really but like how are you alive

50:17

that's weird but I saw the people

50:19

you like leaving and she's like also

50:22

I've seen that car before because I

50:24

do house calls on second and I

50:26

sometimes see that car a few doors

50:28

down now this is also the first

50:30

time we hear them play one of

50:32

the mind control songs and they're like

50:34

I got that new ruckus because that's how every white person

50:36

says it in the movie they can't think of a different

50:38

phrase at all and it makes

50:40

Jamie Foxx sleepy in the car I

50:42

thought honestly made both of that I thought it

50:44

made tyrones not Tyrone I thought it made John Boyega

50:47

sleepy too maybe I think that's why

50:49

they change it but yeah they they

50:51

get to the house where the Escalade

50:53

is and immediately John Boyega

50:56

just gats up and he's like

50:58

alright we're gonna go kill some

51:00

people let's go and I do

51:02

love the jimmy fox

51:05

like no I'm just I'm just gonna stay

51:07

in here and then he's not sure might

51:09

do a pimp good they

51:12

go inside and it looks like a trap

51:15

house it's pretty much empty right but it

51:17

has a break room and they're like what

51:19

trap house would have a break room hilarious

51:21

and they stumble upon the elevator yeah and

51:23

at this point in the movie we are

51:26

15 minutes into the movie

51:28

yes like so much has been covered

51:30

in like and here's the thing is

51:32

this a two-hour movie yes would I

51:34

cut it no not really like

51:36

they cover so much in that time

51:38

and it never seems to drag at

51:40

all you're just kind of like what

51:42

is happening next I think you have

51:45

to sort of set up all of that to like

51:47

have the themes pay off at the end yeah and

51:49

I realize it does take a while to get to

51:51

the sci-fi part of it but I think all of

51:53

that needed well I mean at 15 minutes in

51:55

you're getting your first glimpse of it which like

51:57

true I mean we're not that far in yeah

51:59

we're not that far in but so they're

52:01

in the elevator and I love that they all

52:03

pull out guns everyone has a gun I love

52:06

that Jamie Foxx is like a golden six

52:08

like six bullet revolver like I thought that

52:10

that was yeah perfect for him yes

52:12

loved it loved it they get downstairs

52:14

where where there is a creepy guy

52:16

dancing to Don't Stop Till You Get

52:18

Enough amazing Michael Jackson needle drop in

52:20

this movie I mean yes it's an

52:23

amazing song yeah and I have also been

52:25

the white guy dancing to it alone while

52:27

he's doing dishes or something so yeah I

52:29

understand why he got shot in this scene

52:31

while dressed as him are you a

52:34

white guy with an afro because he is

52:36

a white guy with an afro is no

52:38

I was not hey just to me so long to

52:40

figure out why that was important why they kept hitting

52:42

that detail until the very end you're

52:44

like oh shit oh my

52:46

god but I also love

52:48

that they're just like fuck

52:51

it looks like a game

52:53

show so while John John Boyega is

52:55

gonna search the rest of the lab and it

52:57

finds a body on one of the tables Jamie

53:00

Foxx and yo-yo turn a parish

53:02

are just kind of around the

53:04

lab and Jamie Foxx finds

53:07

what he thinks is cocaine but is not

53:09

it's something else that makes him all giggly

53:11

and Tiana Parish at one point is just

53:13

like I'm just gonna mix these two beakers

53:15

why not she's over here doing

53:18

like she puts on safety goggles

53:20

like the glasses she was

53:22

wearing the goggles I was like well I mean

53:24

she's at least doing this very dumb thing safely

53:26

you know like being safe I would not walk

53:28

into a lab and start experimenting with shit I

53:30

don't know what it is like I love

53:33

that they do though they do I mean

53:35

it depends on the context I think but

53:37

like not one that's a secret underground below

53:39

a kind of a residential neighborhood kind of

53:42

thing I did think it was funny that

53:44

he put that white powder and what looked

53:46

like a crown royal bag and then pulled

53:48

the string on it and put it in

53:51

his pocket it is a hundred percent of

53:53

crown royal bag I was like that's where

53:55

my friend Randall hid his weed when we

53:57

were in high school like that is like

53:59

that Sort of a pull and that made me laugh.

54:01

It's it's definitely a crown royal that I

54:04

clocked that as well And which it's gonna

54:06

stick to the velvet anyway it is you're

54:08

never gonna get the giggle powder out of that

54:10

velvet I love these like it's

54:12

not snow, but I could still see

54:14

yeah, but as she's mixing the beakers

54:16

It gets kind of like a smoky

54:19

reaction. She's like ah and Jamie Foxx

54:21

accidentally shoots the lab coat guy Yeah,

54:23

so he's just dead and they're like

54:25

oh god We got a run as

54:27

they're freaking out John Boyega finds that

54:29

the body on the table is his

54:31

with the bullets Yeah, yeah, so they

54:33

all run they go to yo-yo's grandma's

54:35

house And I love that

54:37

as they're looking around the room because

54:40

this movie will structurally be kind of

54:42

modeled like a classic Mystery so they

54:44

do and she's got a whole stack

54:46

of Nancy Drew And I love the

54:48

Jamie Foxx over like how many adventures

54:50

this bitch been on? I

54:54

mean there's like 40 books stacked right

54:56

there Well there's an ass load of

54:58

Nancy Drew books and Hardy Boys, and

55:00

you're like these people don't age Oh, they're

55:02

the same sort of pulp detective now. It's

55:04

the same sort of thing right Yeah When

55:06

you start to unpack it like from ages

55:08

like 15 to 19 like this

55:10

group of people saw a lot of fucked up shit

55:12

You know I'm saying they saw some shit

55:14

also Nancy Drew is I believe 16

55:20

or 18 because she has sorority

55:22

sisters and her boyfriend has fraternity

55:24

brothers Which makes me think college

55:26

unless they were in some sort

55:28

of junior league kind of thing

55:30

who knows I just looked it up though Do you

55:32

want to guess how many Nancy Drew titles there are

55:34

out there? 162

55:36

Mikey, what's your guess? 65

55:38

there are over Titles

55:42

in the Nancy D. Brooks collection that

55:44

doesn't surprise me at all that's a lot also They

55:46

all tend to run together after a while I went

55:48

through a Nancy Drew phase and after a while I

55:50

was like I feel like they always solve these mysteries

55:53

the same way and I prefer Scooby-Doo after after

55:55

six Like I would imagine 600 they would feel

55:57

like just sort of mad libs. You know because

55:59

it's like similar formula every time? I

56:01

don't know. But I mean that's a

56:03

highly successful... All I'm saying is they

56:06

should have had all 600 in the

56:08

scene. She's like, Nancy Drew takes on

56:10

human trafficking. You

56:14

know I say this but I also watch Law & Order which

56:16

is on like it's 20... That's what

56:18

I was gonna say. So like it's

56:20

you know I guess maybe you do

56:22

have other options but now

56:24

on Law & Order they're going back to like remember

56:26

this case from 10 years ago and I was like

56:28

I I do but why are we doing? Skims

56:32

is creating the next generation of underwear

56:34

and bras for every body. Skims bras

56:37

are worth the hype for the amazing

56:39

shape and support they give but I

56:41

wasn't expecting how comfortable they are and

56:43

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Anyway they basically are like okay they have

57:46

to know that we went to the lab

57:48

they're gonna be looking for us let's stay

57:50

here and then tomorrow we'll go check it

57:52

out. But by the time they wake up

57:54

the next morning, Fontaine is gone and he

57:56

has rolled up to that house with all

57:58

of his bros. Fully strapped.

58:01

Yeah, but this is where

58:03

and they don't find anything. It's just a

58:05

regular house. There's no elevator It's not a

58:07

trap house, which is not it's Completely

58:09

transformed to take all of that out of

58:11

there without them notice without the neighborhood noticing

58:13

means they took everything Collector ass

58:16

shit. Yeah, like that's insane Like that would

58:18

have taken which like they would have had to take

58:20

it down the elevator So like that would have taken

58:22

forever, right? I think they just boarded up

58:24

the elevator I'm sure it's probably still there

58:26

but like he couldn't tell how to get

58:28

into it No, I mean they had to

58:30

take all the stuff down the elevator cuz they

58:32

like no No one in the neighborhood saw them

58:34

moving out. Oh, yeah It probably all came from

58:37

internally like an anthill exactly and what at the

58:39

end of it We know it is like an

58:41

anthill because it's a whole ass city under there

58:43

more or less right under the Glen Yeah, yeah

58:46

Yeah, well, I'm just saying it is like collector

58:48

level shit cuz it would have taken fucking a month to do

58:50

that Except that we know that

58:52

they have like hundreds of people true

58:54

that could do it Yeah So they

58:56

might be like trading spaces extreme home

58:58

makeover ring this shit and just like

59:01

in the matter of hours did it That's

59:03

true. It seems more possible because there's more

59:05

people but I will agree that it's a

59:07

little but also this is a movie about

59:09

clown Yeah, they're like their page. I hear

59:11

it. You're right. Let's we can move. I'll

59:14

drop it. You're right Anyway, so he

59:16

comes out of the house and he's like, I

59:18

swear it was there There was an elevator there's

59:20

a lab and his bro is just it's just

59:22

like hey, you know what? Maybe

59:24

do you think maybe you just need some

59:26

water? Like let's all get some water Like

59:28

I drink some water you need it for

59:31

yourselves to osmo. I love how he is

59:33

like the most supportive friend He's like listen,

59:35

man I'm sure people break into other people's

59:37

houses with guns all the time as a

59:39

mistake. Don't even worry about it Maybe you're

59:42

just thirsty like that whole shit made me

59:44

last so much. He's like I get real stressed

59:46

sometimes I think I just I just really need to drink

59:48

some water And it's

59:50

it's great. It's so what's the kind of

59:52

friend I want to be like just so

59:54

supportive like that's what I want. Yeah, right,

59:57

but we meet back at yo-yo's grandmother

1:00:00

house. Yeah cuz they're laying low. Where the

1:00:02

three of them are like what are we

1:00:04

gonna do now? Like we don't know where

1:00:06

the lab is, what's the Nancy Drew version

1:00:09

of this? And they do love that

1:00:11

Jamie Foxx is like, well whatever we do could we

1:00:13

do it around some food cuz the pimp's blood sugar

1:00:15

is falling fat. He's so great.

1:00:18

So good in this. They go to Hot

1:00:20

Box Fried Chicken which is the one we

1:00:23

saw the commercial for and they all end

1:00:25

up laughing. Now granted I do

1:00:27

love the subtlety that they set this up

1:00:29

with because I don't know about you guys

1:00:31

but how many times you've been out all

1:00:34

night with people crazy shit has happened. You

1:00:36

get to the morning you're like eating breakfast

1:00:38

and you're like hey remember when so-and-so almost

1:00:40

got hit by a car and it's like

1:00:42

now that it's not the scary moment it's

1:00:44

very funny and you're just like yeah I

1:00:46

do. Yes. That's how they kind of set

1:00:48

this up. It's like yeah you know well

1:00:51

he's dead but he's also here and so

1:00:53

they're all laughing. They're laughing a little bit

1:00:55

too much you know and then they

1:00:57

notice everyone around them is also laughing

1:00:59

that same way. But also Jamie

1:01:01

Foxx says Fontaine never laughs. I've

1:01:03

never seen him laugh. Why

1:01:06

are we all laughing? And this is where Jamie Foxx

1:01:08

is like it's in the chicken. Yo-Yo is like I'm

1:01:10

gonna go figure it out because there's another white dude

1:01:12

with an afro there. So she

1:01:14

lures him into the break room which we

1:01:17

will find out has security cameras for all

1:01:19

over town. The strip club, the chicken place,

1:01:21

the house, the lab. That's why I think

1:01:23

it's the manager's office not the break

1:01:25

room. Yes. Yeah yeah sorry sorry sorry.

1:01:27

Yes. That they go into. But

1:01:30

yes. I mean she does see

1:01:32

all of this and she is

1:01:34

like in a manner of terms

1:01:36

seducing him for like the corporate

1:01:38

espionage of it all you know.

1:01:40

She's offering him the Shalimar. Yeah

1:01:42

exactly. So he

1:01:44

is like they're like about to in his mind

1:01:46

they're about to go to pound town you know

1:01:48

I'm saying. He's like you know what I could

1:01:50

use some food could you go get

1:01:52

me some food. Right. And he leaves

1:01:54

and that gives her time to like you

1:01:56

know do some corporate espionage. Inspect and find

1:01:59

the recorder. The recorder that

1:02:01

basically is like, hey, I've noticed that

1:02:03

you know a sense of elation whatever

1:02:05

and and we cut away We don't

1:02:07

know how far that Shalimar went. Well,

1:02:10

this is his fault because if there

1:02:12

is a food Specifically,

1:02:14

I don't think I would want to have

1:02:16

sex with someone immediately after eating or watching

1:02:18

them eat It is like

1:02:21

a lot of fried chicken. I

1:02:23

think it's messy. It's crumbly. It's

1:02:25

greasy. Like that's gonna get everywhere

1:02:27

I'm gonna go ahead and say disagree cuz

1:02:29

I'm into it. You know I'm saying are

1:02:31

you I'm always down for fried chicken Show me

1:02:33

what you can do with that mouth on a

1:02:35

bone. You know what I'm saying? I'm not not

1:02:38

into it Mikey first off first off thought I'm

1:02:40

talking about I'm talking about a man's fried chicken

1:02:42

Not not a one-piece or a two-piece. I'm talking

1:02:44

about a whole bucket here I don't know, you

1:02:46

know, I don't know if you're conceptualizing this the

1:02:48

right way cuz I mean clearly I'm not conceptualizing

1:02:51

it the same way cuz in my mind my

1:02:53

potential date was a woman So like wasn't I

1:02:55

mean Natalie TBH So like I'm just saying I

1:02:58

I don't see y'all getting more than a two-piece

1:03:00

at a time. Oh just split. Yeah Same

1:03:06

girl I could be seduced with

1:03:08

some Cajun fries. Hey, I love

1:03:10

fried chicken I'm just saying I'm

1:03:12

not gonna have it's like swimming right? I'm gonna

1:03:15

need like a half hour Okay after fried chicken.

1:03:17

Yeah, or my stomach hurt I gotta get rid

1:03:19

of these chicken farts before we get into it,

1:03:21

you know, I'm saying Mikey I say you nodding

1:03:23

don't not say something to it not to confirm

1:03:25

that I was right on the podcast. I did

1:03:28

not You son

1:03:30

of a bitch. Let's talk about fried chicken

1:03:32

though. Let's talk about Friday What's your favorite fried

1:03:34

chicken restaurant like fat like a restaurant like this

1:03:36

though? We see in the movie Okay, so what

1:03:38

is your fried chicken choice? Honestly, we have chicken

1:03:40

joints like this that people line up

1:03:42

outside for I used to look

1:03:44

down the street from a Hattie B's I used to go

1:03:46

there all the time. It is great Now I live pretty

1:03:49

close to a princess chicken and that is amazing. So

1:03:51

like princess is more greasy So natural not

1:03:53

chickens a big thing But it depends on

1:03:55

what you're in the mood for and what

1:03:57

you're I'm talking just classical fried

1:04:00

chicken. Just classic fried chicken. I

1:04:02

honestly in Nashville wouldn't do classic fried

1:04:04

chicken anywhere. I like spicy now. Yeah.

1:04:06

Like if I wanted fried chicken, I'd

1:04:09

go to a hot chicken place here

1:04:11

in town. Oh, it's spicy. Mm.

1:04:14

Yeah. And there are a bunch of a princes, a Haddie

1:04:16

B's. There are other ones. If I wanted to

1:04:18

be so hot, I'd go to Bolton's. If I

1:04:21

wanted like not as hot, I

1:04:23

would go to Haddie B's. But

1:04:25

if I wanted like fried chicken pieces like KFC, but really

1:04:27

spicy, I would go to princes. Yeah. That's why I like.

1:04:29

I mean, I would say like just KFC doesn't have

1:04:32

to be spicy. Like just regular ass fried ass

1:04:34

chicken. Like we're seeing in the movie. If we

1:04:36

were in a city that wasn't Nashville, I

1:04:38

would probably go to like, uh, Ooh, I

1:04:40

don't know. Popeyes is pretty great. I love

1:04:43

Popeyes. Popeyes is good. I grew up on

1:04:45

Popeyes in Maryland. So yeah, I'd probably go

1:04:47

back to Popeyes. I'm a big Popeyes

1:04:49

person. I also, I fucks with some churches

1:04:51

chicken. Yeah. Cause this seems kind of like

1:04:54

a fast casual kind of thing. I've never had

1:04:56

churches chicken. I try it though. I like, I mean,

1:04:58

I love chicken. So I mean, well, I took you

1:05:00

guys to Roscoe's last time we were here

1:05:02

and it was real good. It was

1:05:04

fucking good. But all, but conversely, Dinah's

1:05:07

has great fried chicken. There's also Gus's

1:05:09

fried chicken. I have not tried

1:05:11

Zach's bees because we don't have them in California.

1:05:14

But when I'm in Louisiana next week, I'm planning

1:05:16

to go to was ax get a kick

1:05:18

in chicken sandwich page. It's my favorite Zach's

1:05:20

meal. No joke. I get a wings and

1:05:23

things with an extra tender on there. Oh,

1:05:25

throw me an extra tandy babies. We

1:05:27

also don't have Bojangles. And so I

1:05:29

might try, I might try to find

1:05:32

a Bojangle. So on there, Bojangles also

1:05:34

slaps, man. We've got those

1:05:36

here. Yeah. So like Bojangles

1:05:38

chicken, any hoodle. So we

1:05:40

cut from her seducing it cuts away. We

1:05:42

don't know what happened, but she meets up

1:05:45

with the other two and it's just like,

1:05:47

Oh my God, they're watching everything in our

1:05:49

neighborhood. They're experimenting on us. They're taking notes

1:05:51

on the chicken. I don't know who's behind

1:05:53

it. It's a whole thing, but they see

1:05:55

them loading up a van outside the chicken

1:05:57

place and they're like, they're drug dealers. too,

1:06:00

let's follow them. They follow

1:06:02

and the van parks at

1:06:04

a salon first. So

1:06:07

they send Jamie Foxx in or into the

1:06:09

the van to kind of check out the

1:06:11

back of the van. Meanwhile they go into

1:06:13

the salon and this is where

1:06:15

they find that they've got all of

1:06:18

that new perm gleam. The straighter is

1:06:20

greater hair products and they're like this

1:06:22

has to also be part of it.

1:06:24

Like this is the bullshit. And it

1:06:26

clearly is. It's

1:06:28

just another form of the control

1:06:30

that's being implemented into the community

1:06:33

from this from the government or

1:06:35

whoever runs the underground city which

1:06:37

I have to assume is the

1:06:39

government. Yeah. It's anaconda malt liquor.

1:06:41

Yes. I'm only hearing the soul

1:06:43

glow song from coming to America

1:06:46

in my head on a loop

1:06:48

and I love it. It's similar. Yeah. The

1:06:50

anaconda malt liquor one is similar. I'm happy

1:06:53

to play it for you after because they

1:06:55

make fake commercials for it in black dynamite.

1:06:57

It's great. Awesome. But while they're looking at

1:06:59

the salon, the van pulls away with

1:07:02

Jamie Foxx in the back and who should show

1:07:04

up at the salon but Isaac who's like I

1:07:06

thought I fucking killed you. What

1:07:08

the fuck? What is happening?

1:07:10

Yeah. So they eventually get away from

1:07:12

Isaac. Basically like you go do your

1:07:15

haircut. I'll go do whatever. They track

1:07:17

Jamie Foxx to a church. First they

1:07:19

go and ask the guy outside the

1:07:21

bodega and he gives them vague riddle

1:07:23

answers that lead them to the Mount

1:07:25

Zion church which we will find out

1:07:28

is basically one of the epicenters of

1:07:30

what's going on. I thought it

1:07:32

was really cool that the elevator

1:07:34

was like under the pulpit thing.

1:07:36

Yeah. One hell of a

1:07:39

metaphor but yeah I love it. It's real great.

1:07:42

Yeah. But they get Jamie Foxx out

1:07:44

of the back of the van. He

1:07:46

found a key card in the little

1:07:48

cup holder. Yeah. They go into the

1:07:50

church because Jamie Foxx in the back

1:07:52

found boxes of grape drink and in

1:07:54

the church it's communion and they watch

1:07:56

as everyone kind of gets dancier. Now

1:07:58

the preacher is David Allen Grigg. And

1:08:00

he's fucking crushing it! Oh

1:08:03

my god! He's wearing

1:08:05

so much on his- It's hard to tell it's

1:08:07

David Alan Greer, you can sort of hear it

1:08:09

in his voice. But he's got so much makeup

1:08:11

and prosthetics on, you would never know

1:08:13

if you didn't really know his voice. But he

1:08:15

is crushing it. He is crushing it. But

1:08:17

they wait until after church is over,

1:08:20

they scan the keycard, the pulpa comes

1:08:22

up, it's another elevator, they go down

1:08:24

into the underground, they

1:08:27

immediately snag four

1:08:29

like squid games looking ass people and

1:08:32

take their outfits, and they are

1:08:34

able to then walk around the lab.

1:08:36

And so what they see is A,

1:08:38

them engineering foods, and one of them

1:08:40

is crunch cereal, another

1:08:42

one is they're listening to people's conversations, and

1:08:44

if you read the guy's notes, it's like,

1:08:46

it appears that Keisha and Daquan have had

1:08:49

a disagreement, and

1:08:52

they are all, all of the computers

1:08:54

and everything are very vintage and stylized

1:08:56

to the 70s, basically

1:08:59

the MK Ultra era. That's

1:09:02

why it looks like that, because that's

1:09:04

who and what this is, is the

1:09:06

projects that work with social engineering

1:09:09

in this way. Well, it honestly

1:09:11

seems like this is one that has been set up in the

1:09:13

70s, because of how old

1:09:15

Tyrone is, or you know, old John Boyega, as

1:09:18

you find out at the end. So like his

1:09:20

age, the technology in the underground city, and

1:09:23

the technology is a little bit more advanced in

1:09:25

the Glen, because they have cell phones and stuff,

1:09:27

and the computers in

1:09:30

the underground city are very much like early

1:09:32

80s, maybe late 70s computers. I

1:09:35

will say though, nobody seems to have smartphones. Right,

1:09:38

no, I mean it's like 2008 or something in the Glen.

1:09:41

Yeah, we don't know, we have no idea. That

1:09:43

would still be Windows 95, you know what I'm

1:09:45

saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what it would be, you're right.

1:09:48

It would be unless you were in an MKUltra

1:09:50

facility. Well, unless you were in the government facility that

1:09:52

like provided or allocated a budget for you in

1:09:54

1979 to buy the top level gear, and

1:09:58

never again to buy gear. So

1:10:00

you're still using that shit. Yeah, no, I think

1:10:02

that that is like a hint that it definitely

1:10:04

is the government and not like a corporation Right

1:10:06

that would be Advancing their technology

1:10:09

as they go on right But

1:10:11

they use the key card to swipe through a

1:10:13

bunch of different places after seeing people tested in

1:10:15

pods like people being like clockwork Oranged and then

1:10:17

people fighting to music and then they change the

1:10:20

music and they hug But

1:10:22

they swipe into this room that basically looks

1:10:24

like a whole room of love is blind

1:10:26

pods But it turns out

1:10:28

to be a bunch of clones and they

1:10:30

decant some of the clones and they find

1:10:33

The preacher is a clone. Yeah, Jamie

1:10:35

Foxx is a clone. John Boyega is

1:10:37

a clone Yo-yo is not a

1:10:39

clone right on a parish. No clones and

1:10:41

like John Boyega isn't just a clone. His

1:10:44

number is a 001

1:10:47

so he is like the first

1:10:49

one, you know, the close Yeah, which

1:10:51

I think is that foreshadowing of the turn at

1:10:53

the end, you know, yes Um

1:10:58

But he gets very angry and tries to shoot his

1:11:01

clone but it's bulletproof glass. Yeah They

1:11:03

do have to run because now people heard the

1:11:06

gunshots and they come up in the strip club

1:11:08

and the strip club DJ Is like you've

1:11:11

got bogeys Subdue them and he's like here's

1:11:13

that new ruckus and it's the sleepy song

1:11:16

that everyone gets hypnotized to yeah They

1:11:18

grabbed Jamie Foxx. They run outside. This is where

1:11:20

they get in the car They drive away and

1:11:23

the DJ is like go get them and we

1:11:25

get kind of that zombie moment. Yeah, I

1:11:27

mentioned it earlier Yeah, do you guys

1:11:29

think the car breaks down in that

1:11:31

moment just by happen dance or they're

1:11:33

fucking with it in this Fucking

1:11:36

with I thought it I thought it why'd all

1:11:38

its tires from running over that fence. Oh,

1:11:40

maybe that's what it was Yeah, yeah, that could

1:11:42

be it too. I thought it was something with

1:11:44

the engine because the Foley but it could have

1:11:46

also been Yeah, I thought it was that Very

1:11:49

well could have been that yeah. Yeah.

1:11:52

Anyway at this point I looked at the time and

1:11:54

I was like how am I only halfway through this?

1:11:56

I know right I feel like We're

1:11:58

at the end of this movie And yet, the

1:12:01

next hour, super interesting. You're

1:12:04

not at the end of the movie. I don't really feel

1:12:06

like there was a pacing problem, but that

1:12:08

sounds like you're saying there was a pacing

1:12:11

problem. It's just like this story beat where

1:12:13

they're being chased by a horde of like,

1:12:15

quote, zombies in this moment. Right. Typically

1:12:17

about 25 minutes before the end of the movie.

1:12:19

End of the movie. Yes.

1:12:22

But this movie has more movie after this

1:12:24

part of the movie. Yes. And

1:12:27

it should show up, but a fancy version

1:12:29

of Fontaine who we will learn later is

1:12:31

Chester. Yeah. Who I think is like beta

1:12:33

version, like original Fontaine,

1:12:35

I think made that Fontaine and

1:12:37

then other Fontaine's after. But

1:12:40

Kiefer Sutherland is with him and

1:12:42

Kiefer Sutherland shows up and is just

1:12:45

like, God damn it. I

1:12:47

have so much fucking paperwork. But he

1:12:49

basically explains to them, he's like, think of

1:12:51

me as mall security. Yeah. Except

1:12:53

I have a big mall. I have a big

1:12:56

mall. I just have to keep you in line.

1:12:58

They're like, you're torturing people. And he's like, we're

1:13:00

experimenting. America itself is an experiment. Not

1:13:02

wrong, but a generalization, I would say.

1:13:04

Well, not wrong, but also not a

1:13:07

justification for doing actual experiments on

1:13:09

people. Exactly. No

1:13:11

one ever accused mall security people of

1:13:13

being great philosophers. You know what I'm

1:13:15

saying? And with that

1:13:18

segue. Well done. Well

1:13:20

done. I love that. But

1:13:23

he basically explains that he's like, we keep

1:13:26

you down to keep the peace. We

1:13:29

keep you down so you don't ask why you

1:13:31

shouldn't have a fair shake at things. We keep

1:13:33

you down so that we can stay on top.

1:13:36

That is essentially what he says in more

1:13:38

words. He says that in language that

1:13:40

makes it not sound nearly as bad as

1:13:43

like what he's actually saying is. But it

1:13:45

is. Yeah, no, exactly. But he

1:13:47

is at a high level saying

1:13:49

what you just said. Really. We

1:13:52

keep you down by allowing you to be

1:13:54

turned into horse people and then we'll give

1:13:56

you the antidote five years later. same

1:14:00

shit. But he also

1:14:02

reveals that they have code words that

1:14:04

allow him to control them except for

1:14:07

yo-yo. This is also where he's like

1:14:09

you're a dime a dozen no one

1:14:11

cares about you yo-yo. It's again the

1:14:13

less dead. Yeah. The less emphasis on

1:14:16

finding caring for and supporting women of

1:14:19

color and sex workers. So. But I

1:14:21

mean he does control or can control

1:14:23

through that word or the phrase or

1:14:25

whatever all of the clones. Olympia

1:14:28

Black I think is what it's called. Yeah.

1:14:30

Or at least that specific one because he

1:14:32

seems to be able to control John

1:14:35

Boyega's character and not necessarily others. So

1:14:37

I think each clone has their own

1:14:39

code word. I don't know. We only

1:14:41

see it really happen to John Boyega.

1:14:44

Yeah. Right. So it could be either or

1:14:46

I'm not sure. Yeah that's fair. Yeah. I

1:14:48

think it was just him because he's one

1:14:50

of the main clones. I mean he is

1:14:52

the main clone we find out. Yeah. Very

1:14:54

well could be. Yeah. But he does

1:14:56

let them live and is just

1:14:58

like all right do you

1:15:01

want to die or are you gonna

1:15:03

play along. OK. Bye. He gives them the

1:15:05

choice. Do you want to go back to your regular life

1:15:07

and ignore what we're doing here. Or do

1:15:09

you want Chester to kill you. And

1:15:11

they you know do the other

1:15:13

option the one that doesn't involve them dying

1:15:16

this night. You know. Right. Which I think

1:15:18

is also a part of like the metaphor

1:15:20

of the movie. Like right. Do you want

1:15:22

to actually stand up and possibly die. Do

1:15:25

you want to stand up against evil or

1:15:27

do you want to just live your life.

1:15:29

Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to live your life

1:15:31

in the society that was already created for you. Yeah.

1:15:33

And not necessarily created with your best interests.

1:15:35

No. Created to subjugate you. Yeah. Created

1:15:37

for you. Like to do. Right. What

1:15:40

we need you to do. Yeah. And

1:15:42

Ant Farm. Yes. So he

1:15:44

leaves. They all go back to

1:15:46

their respective apartments but Yo-Yo is not fucking

1:15:48

having it. No. First of all Yo-Yo ain't

1:15:50

a clone. Secondly Yo-Yo is the

1:15:52

hero of this film. Yes. And so Yo-Yo

1:15:54

shows up at John Boyega's house and they're like all right

1:15:56

what are we gonna do next. Because I think if we

1:15:59

turn up music they can't hear us and he's like I'm

1:16:01

not doing anything like I was I

1:16:03

made in a tube like I'm not

1:16:05

even a real person I didn't even

1:16:07

have a brother technically like I

1:16:10

I guess I'm just a drug

1:16:12

dealer in this grand theft auto

1:16:14

world basically yeah and

1:16:16

she's like well maybe the next

1:16:19

clone won't be such a pussy

1:16:21

I'm out I'm I'm fucking I'm

1:16:23

doing it love yo-yo love

1:16:25

yo-yo so he goes through his normal life

1:16:27

his normal day today he goes to take his

1:16:29

mom a sandwich and he's like

1:16:33

yeah wait a second I

1:16:35

do love that he comes home

1:16:37

and he hears the hot chicken commercial that says

1:16:40

who needs vices when you got herbs and

1:16:42

spices yes and then he just bites the

1:16:44

40 of the tv great

1:16:47

uh but this is where he knocks for his mom

1:16:49

and he gets the same phrases

1:16:52

repeated and so he kicks the door down

1:16:54

and she's just a voice recorder and I

1:16:56

do love the very human moment of like

1:16:59

I really need you right now mom but

1:17:01

she's not real she's not she doesn't

1:17:03

exist he doesn't have a mom you

1:17:06

know yeah his mom his actual

1:17:08

mom like the elder tyron character's mom

1:17:10

died for years probably in the fucking

1:17:12

90s unless they cloned her to be

1:17:14

mom forever well if they could do

1:17:16

that I think that the brother would

1:17:18

still be alive right why didn't he

1:17:20

go that far I don't know mikey

1:17:22

I don't know maybe he couldn't get

1:17:24

DNA I don't know I don't know

1:17:26

anyway well be that I like my

1:17:28

mad scientist real mad you know I'm

1:17:30

saying right but jamborega runs out of

1:17:32

the house and runs into junebug and spends

1:17:35

some kind of time with junebug almost like

1:17:37

if I had a brother this is what

1:17:39

it would be like they get in a

1:17:41

capri sun fight it's very very cute it

1:17:43

is very very cute yeah um

1:17:45

we cut to janey fox working

1:17:47

out in his house but like

1:17:49

alone at the royal just kind of

1:17:52

like doing karate in front of

1:17:54

the tv clearly not doing great his his

1:17:56

wig has been cleft in twain by

1:17:58

the shit he saw He's

1:18:00

having some struggles for sure, yeah. Having

1:18:02

some struggles. Meanwhile, Yo-Yo mails an

1:18:05

envelope, which, part of me was like, girl,

1:18:07

you got to get out of the Glen

1:18:09

to mail that because they're definitely watching your

1:18:11

mail, but... Well, because it's the

1:18:13

government, it's probably, you know, it doesn't

1:18:15

matter, I don't think, if she had

1:18:17

gone to like, I don't know, some

1:18:20

rural town to mail it on that one way. I think they

1:18:22

would have called it, it may have taken longer, but they still

1:18:24

would have got it. Yeah. So,

1:18:27

the Escalade picks her up, and

1:18:29

Biddy sees it, and

1:18:31

is just like, oh hey, you look good

1:18:33

in that trench coat, like runs

1:18:36

away. But we

1:18:38

get a scene where Fontaine goes

1:18:40

to meet up with Slick Charles,

1:18:42

basically Jamie Foxx's character, and Jamie

1:18:44

Foxx is like, I never won

1:18:46

Pimp of the Year, did I?

1:18:48

It was all fake. I was

1:18:50

like, but you know what, back

1:18:53

then in 95, you should have

1:18:55

seen the first polar bear down

1:18:57

to the claws, and under that,

1:18:59

Merlot leather, the bitches were dying

1:19:01

of thirst. You're just like,

1:19:03

what's this crazy monologue? I love

1:19:05

it, I love it so

1:19:08

much. But they both are like,

1:19:10

so we don't remember any of this, these

1:19:12

are all implanted memories, we are clones. Yeah.

1:19:15

And so Jamie Foxx is like, you know what, if

1:19:17

we're going to buy into the insanity, let up him

1:19:19

freshen up, we're about to go like, hit some shit.

1:19:22

So they go looking for Yo-Yo, because

1:19:24

they're like, they got her now, we

1:19:26

haven't seen her, pretty sure they nabbed her. So

1:19:29

they hear from Biddy who took her,

1:19:31

and they're like, all right, now we

1:19:34

got to figure out our plan. And

1:19:36

their plan is fucking brilliant. I

1:19:38

know, I love it. Brilliant, because what we

1:19:40

see is they go and

1:19:42

tell Isaac as if they're going to get him

1:19:44

as backup. And instead, he

1:19:46

shoots Fontaine, and you're like, oh

1:19:49

what? They dump Fontaine's body on the side

1:19:51

of the road. The Escalade picks him up,

1:19:53

they put a new clone out. That

1:19:56

clone shows up at Jamie Foxx's place,

1:19:58

Jamie Foxx ties him. up and

1:20:02

back down underground, actual

1:20:05

Fontaine with a bullet wound in the

1:20:07

shoulder wakes up. I

1:20:11

love that the morgue workers are like, yeah, boiled chicken

1:20:13

with nothing on it. No salt, no pepper. I've got

1:20:15

a crock pot. I'll give it a try. And

1:20:18

I like, the guy responds when he convinces

1:20:20

his buddy to boil his chicken and he's

1:20:22

like, yeah, I'll try it when I get

1:20:24

home with my new crock pot. He goes,

1:20:27

hell yeah, brother. And I thought that shit

1:20:29

was so funny. It

1:20:32

really brings out the natural flavors of the chicken.

1:20:35

Yeah. It does not. It

1:20:37

doesn't. It really does not. No. If

1:20:40

you want everything you eat to taste like hot

1:20:42

water, boil it. Yeah. No.

1:20:45

Anyway, he wakes up in the body bag

1:20:47

and now we cut back. We get like

1:20:49

a flashback of what the plan was. And

1:20:52

I do love that the way that they

1:20:54

communicate this plan is that they both pretend

1:20:57

to be having encounters with

1:20:59

sex workers and then passing

1:21:01

the information sex worker to

1:21:04

sex worker. Yeah. And

1:21:06

that was very, very funny for me. But they

1:21:08

are like only doing the quote sex worker

1:21:10

part of it for like cameras

1:21:12

that would be far away in the distance.

1:21:14

Yes. Right. So

1:21:16

it looks like one of them is giving one of them

1:21:18

a blow job or whatever, but like you can see that

1:21:21

like there's nothing really happening. He's whispering nearest cross

1:21:23

like, yeah, he says 10 racks. All you

1:21:25

got to do is shoot him. Yeah. She's

1:21:27

doing the blow job scene from Carrie. Right. Like

1:21:30

more or less. Or I mean, maybe

1:21:32

it might be an homage to Dolomite that

1:21:34

had a really funny kind of pantomime sex

1:21:37

scene. Oh, I don't know that it was

1:21:39

an actual homage to Carrie, but it made me laugh

1:21:41

because it made me think about that. Right. Right.

1:21:45

But this whole the whole montage was hilarious and great. It

1:21:47

may definitely be a Dolomite one. Sure.

1:21:50

But regardless, we find out that the plan was

1:21:52

that they paid Isaac to shoot him in the

1:21:54

shoulder because they knew that they'd be watching that

1:21:56

they pick him up. And so

1:21:58

if they can distract them. and get

1:22:02

Fontaine inside then they can roll everyone

1:22:04

out. But I do love that

1:22:06

they like make Isaac rehearse it and they're

1:22:08

like yeah, that's it Denzel, you got it. Yeah,

1:22:11

I know he's like wait, are we talking training day

1:22:13

or Bookie Eli? He's like Bookie Eli, I'm like damn,

1:22:15

we gotta do it again. And I wanna say, I

1:22:18

liked Bookie Eli. Stop knocking it, it's a good

1:22:20

movie. Oh, that always is.

1:22:23

It's okay. I like it,

1:22:25

I like it a lot. I mean

1:22:27

is it silly? Yeah, but I like

1:22:29

it. It's always not how I would

1:22:31

describe that, but I love that he's

1:22:33

spoiler alert blind, come on. Like that's

1:22:35

insane. Maybe have I not seen that

1:22:37

one? That's the one where the book is the Bible

1:22:39

basically, right? No, it absolutely is the Bible.

1:22:43

He takes it to Alcatraz and

1:22:45

it's revealed at the end that it's a

1:22:47

braille Bible and he's blind. And then Mila

1:22:49

Kunis goes back into the world to kick

1:22:52

ass and we never got a sequel that

1:22:54

I wanted. I wanted Mila Kunis going to

1:22:56

kick ass in that world.

1:22:58

Was she an inmate at Alcatraz?

1:23:01

No, she joins him on the journey.

1:23:03

We can't talk about Bookie Eli. Okay,

1:23:05

okay, okay. We cannot watch Bookie Eli.

1:23:07

Okay, all right, I have other things

1:23:10

to watch first. Watch Mad

1:23:12

Max. I love Mad Max,

1:23:14

I've seen Mad Max many times. People love Mad

1:23:16

Max, yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah, a highly stylish

1:23:18

movie. Book of Eli's also highly stylish. I know,

1:23:20

I think I did it. I like

1:23:22

whatever. It is enough good. It's not the best movie, but

1:23:24

it's a good way to kill an hour 45. So

1:23:29

while Fontaine is down there investigating,

1:23:33

trying to find Yo-Yo, Jamie Foxx,

1:23:36

I keep wanting to say Jamie Lee Foxx, but

1:23:38

it's not. It's just Jamie Foxx, not Jamie Lee

1:23:41

Curtis, it's Jamie Foxx. He

1:23:43

rounds up basically the entire, like

1:23:45

all the gangs, all the pimps, all

1:23:48

of the concerned citizens with guns. He unifies

1:23:51

the Glen, which we don't see at all of. We

1:23:54

just see it cut to him from like John Boyega waking up and

1:23:56

all that stuff. To him like

1:23:58

leading a parade. A

1:24:00

parade of Cadillacs! Yeah. Towards, I think

1:24:02

the church is the one they get

1:24:04

in through, right? No, they get

1:24:06

in through the bodega. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a

1:24:09

convenience store. And he just walks up and he's

1:24:11

like, Hey man, why don't you tell me

1:24:13

where that freaky laboratory is and I'll be out of your hair.

1:24:16

And the guy's like behind the freezer. Which was extra,

1:24:18

I don't know if any of you have been to

1:24:21

Omega Mart, the Meow Wolf in Las Vegas. No.

1:24:25

But it is a, so it's

1:24:27

kind of like a weird trippy grocery

1:24:29

store with like

1:24:31

pseudo-anarchist vibes that you then walk

1:24:34

through like an alternate dimension through the

1:24:36

freezer. Anyway, super fun. Yeah. But

1:24:39

they all descend on the laboratory

1:24:42

below. And what happens at this

1:24:44

point is basically a more fun

1:24:46

version of the end

1:24:48

of Cabin in the Woods. Yes, yes, yes.

1:24:50

Where just all hell breaks loose while they

1:24:52

start waiting. All

1:24:55

the clones, some of them

1:24:57

get shot because Kiefer Sutherland

1:24:59

kind of corners Yo-Yo and

1:25:01

Jamie Foxx and is going to

1:25:03

shoot them but they only have six

1:25:05

shooters so they have run out of bullets. Now,

1:25:08

on the flip side, Fontaine has made his

1:25:10

way deep into the lab where

1:25:13

he finds, first he fights Chester. Yeah.

1:25:16

Which is awesome because it's like a John Boyega

1:25:18

on John Boyega fight. It's fucking lit. It

1:25:20

is very cool. Yeah. So he

1:25:22

has a gun, Fontaine John Boyega has

1:25:24

a gun. Right. And Chester

1:25:26

John Boyega is just like standing in the

1:25:28

hallway and all these scientists are running around.

1:25:30

And John Boyega Fontaine shoots him but he

1:25:32

grabs just like a scientist so Chester like

1:25:34

holds a... He has a human shield. And

1:25:38

then as John Boyega Fontaine empties the clip, he

1:25:40

then drops the scientist and then they have this

1:25:42

great fist fight. I just thought that was such

1:25:44

a fun way to get rid of, well, doesn't

1:25:46

one of them have a gun? That would be such

1:25:48

a short fight. Right. You know,

1:25:50

I love that. Right. So they

1:25:52

have like a fist fight. He and Chester

1:25:54

wins and drags John Boyega into

1:25:56

a lab instead of killing him because he

1:25:59

does get the gun. gun and instead of

1:26:01

shooting him, he drags him into the lab

1:26:03

where he meets OG Fontaine

1:26:05

who is the geneticist working

1:26:08

on the project. And this is very

1:26:10

much a conversation of old timey

1:26:13

Fontaine is like, I've

1:26:15

seen what black people have been through.

1:26:18

It hurt my brother. It killed my brother.

1:26:21

And wouldn't it just be easier if we

1:26:23

were white instead of asserting

1:26:25

that black people should be treated

1:26:28

well as is because they

1:26:30

are people and therefore deserve to be

1:26:32

treated well. Right. And

1:26:34

it's this fight of like, well, I'm just going to give up and

1:26:36

be white. And young John

1:26:38

Boyega being like, no, I'm not.

1:26:41

And I'm willing to sacrifice you for

1:26:43

that, basically. Yeah. Yeah. It

1:26:46

was powerful when he said a simulation rather than an annihilation, which

1:26:48

I was like, oh, yes. Oh, but

1:26:51

this is also where we learned that

1:26:53

the ultimate plan was to essentially turn

1:26:55

black people white, which is why all

1:26:57

the white guys have afros because the

1:26:59

hair is the toughest part is

1:27:01

what he says in this scene, which is

1:27:04

also why they developed the perm glow stuff.

1:27:06

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh,

1:27:09

also Yo-Yo, they tried to put perm glow on Yo-Yo,

1:27:11

but she was wearing a wig because she's smart as

1:27:13

hell. And then she escaped. I thought

1:27:15

that was so funny though, when she like

1:27:17

pulls that the wig off and she has

1:27:19

her clone. And this is the

1:27:22

whole time Kiefer Sutherland is being like, I don't know why you're

1:27:24

with this guy. He's a fucking

1:27:26

idiot, but he just brilliantly double crosses

1:27:28

him and uses a clone to then

1:27:30

shoot him. Great. Pretty

1:27:32

great. Loved it. Anyway,

1:27:34

Fontaine uses the code words to get

1:27:36

Chester to shoot old timey Fontaine. Then

1:27:39

everyone escapes, including the clones.

1:27:41

So then we cut to

1:27:43

like news footage of

1:27:46

a bunch of nude clones

1:27:48

just kind of wandering around

1:27:50

outside very confused clothes. Like, just like

1:27:52

what is happening? Well, I would assume most

1:27:54

of them didn't get their memories implanted. So

1:27:56

it's just like, I don't think I can

1:27:58

do it. Yeah, that's what I

1:28:01

assume so too. So they may have like

1:28:03

some like base like language programming that kind

1:28:05

of stuff, but not specific memories. Right. So

1:28:07

everything is new outside of maybe like language because I

1:28:09

think we see a few of them talk. We

1:28:12

know we don't see any of them talk. They try to ask them

1:28:14

questions and they don't talk. It might just

1:28:16

be blank slate. Yeah,

1:28:18

that's even sillier. Yeah. Who

1:28:21

knows? But I do love because like, you

1:28:23

know, us cuts off at the end before we

1:28:25

really get a sense of like what the world

1:28:27

would be like after that happened. And

1:28:30

we never quite see the aftermath of like

1:28:32

a don't worry darling or anything like that.

1:28:35

This one, they're just like, what would the news

1:28:37

be like if this happened

1:28:40

just on the street ass street? And

1:28:43

they're just like, yeah, a bunch of naked people. I

1:28:45

don't know. But we

1:28:47

see Yo-Yo and Jamie Foxx meet

1:28:50

up with John Boyega. And

1:28:53

I do love because they are like, okay, we're

1:28:55

all safe. What are we going to do next?

1:28:57

We cut to a news

1:28:59

report where they're interviewing Biddy. And

1:29:02

this is my favorite one of the

1:29:04

entire thing because Biddy got down there

1:29:06

and got files. Yeah. And

1:29:08

she's just like, we go deep throat that

1:29:11

shit. Shut up. I mean it in the

1:29:13

water. We got that. They're cloning people. And

1:29:15

you're just like, yes, Biddy. But

1:29:18

she opens it. She shows it on the

1:29:20

news, right? It's like right there. Yes. And

1:29:23

it's like, I think it's, I think it's John Boyega's file.

1:29:26

They clone people. We got the files. It's

1:29:29

amazing. But

1:29:31

essentially the three of our three main characters,

1:29:34

Jamie Foxx, Tonya, and a parish and

1:29:36

John Boyega are like, we're going to

1:29:38

go to Memphis next because I bet

1:29:40

there's other places where this is happening.

1:29:43

And Yo-Yo always wanted to go to Memphis. So

1:29:45

let's see what's good in Memphis.

1:29:48

And the movie seemingly ends.

1:29:50

Yeah. Yeah. that

1:30:00

they have Big Boy in the morning playing

1:30:02

the new mind control song. Big Boy is

1:30:04

a famous DJ here, has been for like

1:30:07

30 years and he goes talk

1:30:09

to his mom but instead of the fish

1:30:11

cookout it's a voodoo market which has a

1:30:13

lot of fun. But he does

1:30:15

his own version of Fontaine's Day while

1:30:18

we hear the song and one of the song,

1:30:20

the lyrics of the songs is you are enslaved

1:30:22

to do what I say and it's this like

1:30:25

heavy song. But

1:30:27

he's sitting on the couch and

1:30:29

he sees the news and it's just a

1:30:32

bunch of naked people clones and I think

1:30:34

this is Memphis in the news or

1:30:37

somewhere else. It's not where we just

1:30:39

came from, it's a separate one. It

1:30:41

wasn't the Glen? It was not the

1:30:43

Glen, it's somewhere else. Okay. And he

1:30:46

sees himself on TV and I love

1:30:48

that his boy on the couch next

1:30:50

to him who are also by the

1:30:52

way clones of the friends that Fontaine

1:30:54

had in the Glen. He turns to

1:30:57

him and just goes ain't that you

1:30:59

Tyrone? Cut. End of movie. And

1:31:02

that's the movie. So I think see

1:31:04

the movie and they talked about the movie, what

1:31:06

did you guys think about they cloned Tyrone? I

1:31:09

loved it. Big fan. It was really good. I

1:31:11

thought it was really good. It's very

1:31:13

funny. Comedically timing is

1:31:15

perfect, pacing is perfect. But

1:31:18

also story is great, themes

1:31:20

hold up. Yes. Great sci-fi

1:31:22

and beautifully shot. Yeah. This

1:31:24

is shot so well. It's

1:31:27

amazing. It's shot like winning time

1:31:29

on HBO, which is like a very

1:31:31

70s vibe. Like it's awesome. Yeah. It's

1:31:33

very stylized and I like it. I'm

1:31:35

into it. I really liked it. I

1:31:37

like, I love science fiction stuff like

1:31:39

that. Yeah. Yeah. It is

1:31:41

very cool. I can definitely understand why

1:31:43

people don't think it's horror because there

1:31:45

aren't a lot of like horror tropes.

1:31:48

I will say as this is a

1:31:50

horror podcast, I was kind of disappointed

1:31:52

that there weren't more horror elements, but

1:31:55

I love sneaking a good science fiction film

1:31:57

on here. So yeah. Same. Same. Because

1:32:00

I love science fiction. I definitely

1:32:02

understand why you would say this is

1:32:04

horror. Like, I would say it definitely

1:32:06

falls into like the Jordan Peele sort

1:32:09

of vibe of horror, if

1:32:11

that makes sense. Yes. Which

1:32:13

is, I think, very great commentary

1:32:15

baked into very good storytelling. Yes.

1:32:18

That's always my thing is like, if you can

1:32:20

have a good story and you can have good

1:32:23

commentary, you should. Why not? That's

1:32:25

free. Yeah, and I think that that's one

1:32:27

thing that Jordan Peele does especially well and I think this movie

1:32:29

does especially well too. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,

1:32:32

but Paige, do you have any fun facts for us? I do. Well,

1:32:35

here it is with your fun facts. Fun facts.

1:32:38

So this film was actually chosen as part of

1:32:40

the 2019 Blacklist. We

1:32:43

have covered Blacklist movies more on Romancing the

1:32:46

Pod than we have here. And

1:32:48

I will say a lot of our worst Romancing

1:32:50

the Pod movies are all the 2007-2009 Blacklist. The

1:32:55

writer's strike Blacklist years. The last writer's

1:32:57

strike. Yeah, the previous one. That is

1:32:59

now the previous one. You're right. Sorry.

1:33:02

Yeah. The previous writer's strike. But this

1:33:05

is 2019. So this is quite a bit after

1:33:07

that. And it

1:33:09

was included along with, or I guess it

1:33:11

was the year or two after Jojo Rabbit

1:33:13

was on the Blacklist. But

1:33:15

other films that have been on the Blacklist are Juno.

1:33:18

Juno was only on for one year before it got

1:33:20

made. And then Argo as

1:33:22

well has been on in that time.

1:33:25

Now multiple times in the movie

1:33:27

you will see dark spots or

1:33:30

what look like damaged film pieces

1:33:32

from projection. It is not shot

1:33:34

on film. Those were added

1:33:36

digitally to make it look like

1:33:38

it's on film. But they actually added the

1:33:40

dark spots that would have let the projectionists

1:33:42

know to change the reel. So

1:33:44

like they went that far into

1:33:47

adjusting it. Now it

1:33:49

is okay. I did a little

1:33:51

Googling and didn't get a chance to read it while we

1:33:53

were talking. It is Anaconda Maltlicker.

1:33:55

Is it? Okay. Awesome.

1:33:58

Yeah. liquor. You

1:34:01

can't really see the label too

1:34:03

close, but it is anaconda malt liquor. They

1:34:05

actually asked Michael Jai White for permission because

1:34:08

he also wrote black dynamite in addition to

1:34:10

starring in it and he

1:34:12

gave his permission as an homage

1:34:15

to black dynamite. Oh that's super

1:34:17

cool. Great, I love that. Yeah that is

1:34:19

very cool. We've been calling it a Cadillac

1:34:21

the entire time,

1:34:23

however it was in fact a

1:34:25

Dunbarton Green 1976 Pontiac Grand Prix, but

1:34:29

that style of car I would

1:34:31

say. Yeah. Now the director has

1:34:33

made some comments about what kind

1:34:36

of inspired this film and one of

1:34:38

those things was that his friend ended up in

1:34:40

prison for something that happened to him that was

1:34:42

kind of outside his control, which happens a lot

1:34:44

more than you would think. Yeah. And but it

1:34:47

kind of took him out of

1:34:49

the community for a long time and

1:34:51

so he ended up having kind of a deep depression

1:34:53

because he had trouble connecting with people because he'd basically

1:34:56

just been like gone

1:34:58

for years. So his whole life was

1:35:01

upended even though he ends up

1:35:03

back in society. It's almost like

1:35:05

he's a reintroduced clone of himself.

1:35:07

Yeah. So yeah I think that's

1:35:09

a really interesting way to

1:35:11

reflect that in this

1:35:13

movie, but yeah Jamie Foxx and

1:35:15

David Allen Greer were previously on

1:35:17

in Living Color together, so it

1:35:20

was kind of fun to see them reprise

1:35:22

that partnership. Yeah. Now we

1:35:24

suspected or theorized while we

1:35:26

were talking about this that

1:35:28

Tiana Parrish, Paris, Tiana

1:35:30

Paris and Jamie Foxx

1:35:32

improvised their dialogue in some scenes.

1:35:35

They seem to man, they're both so fun.

1:35:37

They absolutely did. That makes

1:35:40

sense. To their credit,

1:35:42

chef's kits, top-notch, so

1:35:44

funny, so good. That is

1:35:47

like harder to do than to write I