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1:54

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1:57

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2:02

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2:04

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2:06

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That's the song oh, yeah, yes

2:38

Mike got five on it. Oh

2:42

Classic page. Yes, you've seen

2:44

this movie. I know but you weren't on

2:46

the last episode we did with it Mikey

2:48

I know you've seen it because you were

2:51

on that episode but page when was the

2:53

first time you saw it? I saw this

2:55

in theaters. Okay, I figured you would have

2:57

yeah Because even though like you weren't on

2:59

this podcast yet. You were still like a

3:01

hardcore horror bitch. Yeah Yeah, yeah So

3:04

like yeah I saw it in theaters and

3:06

you guys if I remember correctly saw it

3:08

in theaters and did your episode right after

3:10

which were a Jordan Peele movie worst

3:13

plan no offense because you need at least

3:15

a week and a half To roll it

3:17

around in your brain and talk to other

3:19

people before you come up with your like

3:21

thesis on the fall It's it's funny

3:23

you mention it because that episode created

3:25

my favorite review of the horror version

3:27

Where a guy says listening to mikey

3:30

struggle to talk about issues of people

3:32

of color is both horrifying and hilarious

3:34

Please do more five stars I

3:37

also I don't know if you remember Because

3:40

I I had already met you guys

3:42

at that point. We had met at panic fest prior

3:44

to that episode and That

3:46

episode came out. I listened to it.

3:48

I was like, oh no They missed

3:50

like a huge point and so I

3:52

emailed jen and I was like Jen

3:55

here is a dissertation and she was like,

3:57

oh my god. I think you're right And

4:00

so then Jen posted it on the blog So

4:03

I was like not even on the

4:05

show or anything yet And I had

4:07

an article on the horror virgin blog

4:09

about classism and this movie So

4:12

I'm actually pretty happy to talk about

4:14

it at length again today It's been

4:16

rolling around in my head along with

4:18

the other Jordan Peele movies Of course,

4:20

you know that I have a universe

4:22

theory where does it rank in

4:24

your Jordan Peele averse last currently? I

4:26

mean it should this is probably the

4:28

worst one of his movies, right? Like

4:30

I mean, they're all great It's still

4:32

a really good movie. Yeah. Yeah. No,

4:34

I agree like I I agree,

4:37

but this is his worst Right

4:39

only because one of them has to

4:41

be the other two are so good.

4:43

Yeah. Yeah Yeah, like no that that's where

4:45

I'm at with it. Wait, where do you

4:48

put Keanu? Oh, that's

4:50

almost first That's like right below get

4:52

out. I love Keanu. I can't

4:54

is such a fun fun fucking movie

4:57

It was a really funny movie. Yeah, not

4:59

a horror movie by the way. Hey, so

5:01

don't it has cats I know

5:03

I love it. So so many cute

5:05

kittens and do rags in that movie

5:07

So here's here's where I land and

5:09

I feel like there are Like

5:12

industry reasons for why this ranks last

5:14

for most people not everybody and if

5:17

this is your main phase, that's fine

5:19

It's a good movie. It's just you're

5:21

holding it up next to two Amazing

5:24

movies so like, you know anyway get

5:26

out He had like five years to

5:28

work on it, right? And I think

5:31

that this movie shares something something

5:33

would get out which is honestly the

5:35

use of like a magical Realism or

5:37

metaphor and the difference is and get

5:39

out it's on a much smaller scale

5:42

So it's a little easier to kind of

5:44

excuse the fact that you're like logistically this

5:46

would never work But in this movie, it's

5:48

on such a macro scale that you're constantly

5:51

like how would this work? Yeah,

5:53

I mean it's like honestly if

5:55

you think about it from like

5:57

a logical family this movies like

5:59

real fucking hilarious how much it does

6:01

not make sense. There's no way. Yeah,

6:03

like it is all Classism

6:06

sort of metaphor and of course the racism

6:08

is based into classism. It sacrifices the story

6:10

for the metaphor Oh, yeah, which makes me

6:13

like at least that is why I like

6:15

at least it's still a great movie Yeah,

6:17

but I agree. I feel like get out

6:19

is a smaller world. Yes, so it's easier

6:22

to explain that magic Yeah, and there is

6:24

magical realism in both of these universe. Yes.

6:26

Oh, I mean and in note it Well, I

6:29

would say nope is the most grounded in a

6:31

weird I know that sounds crazy because there's an

6:33

alien in a weird space shark But

6:38

you have to also remember that like he

6:40

did get out and then this was out

6:42

within a year Yeah, I mean it's a

6:44

sophomore slump for a reason. Yes such a

6:47

quick turnaround Yeah And then he had like

6:49

three years to work on nope and so

6:51

for me I don't say this is third

6:53

so much as this is second and get

6:55

out and nope are tied for first for

6:57

me Oh cool Because I love them

6:59

both for different reasons and I feel

7:01

like I love nope more and more

7:03

the more times I watch it this

7:06

movie I feel like the more times I watch it

7:08

there are things about it that I do really like

7:10

and do really appreciate I think I have isolated a

7:12

pacing issue for me every time I watch it and

7:15

it's always in this one same spot I'll talk about

7:17

it when we get to it. Is it any

7:19

time anyone is fighting anybody? Absolutely

7:21

Anytime she's like walking down into

7:23

the pit. Yes, or whatever like

7:26

literally all she is doing at

7:28

the end is traversing

7:30

from the ride or the

7:33

walkthrough thing. It's like six sets

7:35

of stairs. Yeah. Yeah, and it's like

7:37

three minutes of Nothing

7:39

other than her walking down

7:41

steps and one escalator That's

7:44

not the worst for me because I do

7:46

remember seeing that in the theaters because at

7:48

that point in the theater You didn't really

7:50

know like this movie really does like not

7:52

just a third act twist But like a

7:54

last two minutes of the third act twist

7:56

and by the time you get there you're

7:58

like so silly Fuck

8:00

is happening! Like, what? But

8:02

not like, oh my god, you're blowing my

8:04

mind like the end of Saw. Like, literally,

8:07

Jordan Peele, you have like, little precious movie

8:09

time left to explain what the fuck is

8:11

happening. Oh, you're just not going to? You're

8:13

just gonna be like, yada yada yada yada,

8:15

it all happened, don't worry about it. Okay,

8:17

cool cool cool. That's also fine. That last

8:20

shot with the helicopters, like, ruins the whole

8:22

movie. Oh, that is like, even more widespread.

8:24

Yeah. But here's my thing. I

8:26

mean, it's based after Chud, which is equally

8:28

as ridiculous. It's like, there is precedent for

8:31

movies like this. Chud is a little more

8:33

bonkers, this is a little heavier. I

8:35

will say that if you take this just as

8:38

a metaphor, it is a

8:40

fascinating, really interesting movie. That's how

8:42

I choose to see it. Yeah, if you think too

8:44

hard, it drifts away. But

8:46

however, I still maintain

8:49

that Jordan Peele is doing a

8:51

central conflicts universe with these movies.

8:53

You've mentioned this before, I mentioned it again, because

8:55

I was trying to explain it to Natalie, and I

8:57

probably remember about 30% of it. I'll

9:00

get it. So please explain it again. Within

9:02

most literature and art that

9:04

works in a narrative form,

9:06

there are multiple conflicts that

9:09

tend to typify most stories

9:11

that exist. So you've got

9:13

man versus society, man versus

9:15

man, man versus himself, man

9:17

versus nature, and man versus fate or

9:19

the supernatural. Those are the ones that

9:21

tend to exist. Sometimes people lump other

9:24

ones, but those are like the main

9:26

five. I think nope makes a very,

9:28

very strong argument for being man versus

9:30

nature. I feel like if you see

9:32

anything else but that, like

9:34

that's the only one that fits. Yes,

9:36

I think get out could either be

9:38

man versus man or man versus society.

9:40

I think I would argue stronger for

9:42

man versus society personally. I was going to

9:44

say that but I could see man versus man.

9:47

But for me, I think man versus society. I

9:49

bet based on the next movies he does, it'll

9:52

sort of fill in which one this is. We will

9:54

know for sure. And then this I

9:56

think is man versus self. Obviously

9:58

because you're fighting so big. who

10:00

look exactly like you. But I

10:02

think within that, that's where it

10:04

paints a really interesting picture of

10:06

this as a capitalist and classist

10:08

metaphor. Because essentially, it's not just

10:10

man versus self. Like on the

10:12

immediate micro scale, yes, you're fighting

10:15

a person that looks like you.

10:17

But the overarching theme of the

10:19

movie, especially when she says we

10:21

are Americans, is are we

10:23

fighting ourselves? Who has to pay for

10:25

the life that we live, if that

10:28

makes sense, where it's like the comfort

10:30

that we have comes at

10:32

a cost. And that cost

10:34

is another human being. And

10:37

we cannot see ourselves without

10:39

understanding that underlying network

10:41

of exploitation. It's the same idea

10:43

of saying there are no ethical

10:45

billionaires because that money comes from

10:47

somewhere, right? Like it comes from

10:49

either exploiting your workers or exploiting

10:52

the environment. This movie tackles that

10:54

in a very metaphorical way. And

10:56

the story does suffer for it

10:58

because at a certain point you start

11:00

being like, wait a second, what? But

11:03

I think as a metaphor, it works. Why

11:05

is it that only some of them

11:07

are tethered some of the time, but like,

11:09

right, but then at certain points are

11:11

not like, I literally laughed out loud

11:13

because I forgot that

11:16

the son puts his arms up

11:18

and walks backwards toward the end.

11:20

And that for some reason forces

11:23

his allegory tether to do the

11:25

same and kill themselves. Now

11:27

here, I thought about that this time, because that's the

11:29

part that I've had a problem with every time I've

11:31

watched this movie. And this time, I mean, it's hilarious.

11:33

I was thinking about it. Yeah. In

11:35

the sense of like, have you ever heard that

11:38

people like kids see more ghosts because

11:40

they're more attached to the spiritual realm when

11:42

they're younger and we lose it as we

11:44

get older. I started to think about it

11:46

that way. I've never heard someone say

11:49

that whose opinion I trusted on things

11:51

outside of banana pudding because this was

11:53

my grandmother. Yes, I have heard people

11:55

say that. Yes. I was like, man,

11:57

I'm just trying to read a book.

12:00

You're at the park. You don't get me off. Yet

12:03

anyway, that now is the a thought I

12:05

had while watching. It's that. That doesn't explain

12:07

it, but there's pieces like that throughout the

12:10

movie that you're like, oh wait a second

12:12

that that isn't quite by I think. The

12:14

overall metaphors really interesting. Still were oh no,

12:16

I'm in office, I work with classes

12:18

Ubs metaphors. So. Like worth of

12:21

gorgeous had it been on. I

12:23

feel so shitty saying this. Because.

12:25

It's so well written already, but

12:27

hadn't been written on a smaller

12:29

scale. Yeah, and things had been

12:31

explained more. Yeah, I would have

12:33

fought with this movie probably the

12:35

most because of the subject matter

12:37

and cupboards. Sure what? Man, we're

12:40

supposed to expect that there is

12:42

a literal person that is under

12:44

ground for every person in the

12:46

world. That. Seems to

12:48

have no agency right

12:50

whatsoever, and hell they

12:52

want to are. They human

12:55

like they say they are. But are

12:57

they? Yeah, it. Was like a bootlegger.

12:59

If you would have to until like two

13:01

or three maybe five families where we have

13:03

one major family watches every one of the

13:05

neighborhood or something. I don't know. I

13:07

think a neighborhood would have imperfect legacy

13:10

effort wives and will of for sure.

13:12

Absolutely. Not because it's such a big

13:14

focus. Yeah, it makes me not like

13:16

it as much because that's the story

13:18

points or dislike. Yada Yada yada In

13:21

a way that feels very odd. I

13:23

hope people don't ask questions. That. Kind

13:25

of were sure. And and here's the thing I

13:27

think if you poked and prodded a Jordan Peele

13:29

he be like you're asking the wrong questions Are

13:31

like that's fair? That's absolutely fair that is. Just

13:34

someone's way of not answering the questions

13:36

you just asked to do. What is

13:38

your persona not having this conversation with

13:40

what I'm directing it that you directly?

13:42

But listen, I haven't written any movies.

13:44

Stay on the way. Better movie than

13:47

I could have ever done. Like I

13:49

think it's great. I really do. I

13:51

was a sort of explaining why as

13:53

it gets my third favorite yet. I

13:55

will say I think the performances in this

13:57

might be the best of the three Doc.

14:00

No longer was so good in

14:02

this movie. She. Deserved that fucking oscar

14:04

as she got fucking robbed of a to

14:06

get her. And Toni Collette of course. It's

14:08

holier. They always get over my racism in

14:11

a while. I meet verbier is both as

14:13

a this this world me so there's a

14:15

lot of ways we're This is my favorite

14:17

one of his film a Lot of Ways

14:20

of This is my least favorite. Sure, I

14:22

think I love the aesthetics and like the

14:24

acting in this them and and I love

14:26

like the traditional Har slasher stuff. Yeah I

14:29

I wish it was just people who like

14:31

doppelgangers are coming to kill us because the

14:33

more they explained the tethered the more it

14:36

unravel. So worse everything's yeah yeah the worse.

14:38

Everything get a little bit and light in

14:40

it and I don't think you lose the

14:42

horror the midst of like and I'll and

14:44

I Like starts recently. Don't get me wrong,

14:46

I love it. You know by like this

14:48

when to for I don't think it has

14:50

to be explains in a way that like

14:52

logically makes sense like I'm I'm fine to

14:54

go into a world where magical realism exists

14:56

and you sorta yada yada some of the

14:59

magical realism of. It. Which is what I think

15:01

this is the I know it's just a scale.

15:03

I think that forces which I also

15:05

think he's saying that classes him as

15:07

a problem nationwide. Really everywhere in the

15:09

world it's a problem right yet. But

15:11

I mean we essentially live in like

15:13

a very advanced form of feudalism. So

15:15

like we have changed since the Middle

15:17

ages. Really? I don't think that's true

15:19

because of the whole, like we don't

15:22

burn people at the stake as much

15:24

as a lot of things very loud

15:26

or middle ages. Three. There are people who

15:28

would if we would like that I don't know.

15:30

like our class. Systems are still very

15:32

lord add peasants stratified. Yeah, was

15:35

landowners. We're only. we're on top

15:37

of that. So who's on top

15:39

of that? Us landowner to.

15:43

See it. I mean I am in a

15:45

different class and I was born into yeah,

15:47

that is switched with what you're making now

15:49

in your house. You're in like the top

15:51

one percent of one percent of the world

15:53

of the world. Yeah, probably. Which is also

15:55

a problem. Like, I don't think that any

15:57

of that is good, but I agree. You're

15:59

probably right, God anointed me to be

16:01

a landowner and to rule my domain.

16:05

It's exactly what the movie is about. It is. But

16:07

that's the thing, because you're like, but I worked hard for

16:09

my house and I like living in my house. But

16:12

also, you have a house and someone

16:14

else doesn't. That is the reality of

16:16

what this movie shows. And

16:19

that is tough to grapple with. You're all

16:21

right. There are too many

16:23

people. If we ate people, all

16:25

the problems would be solved. Everyone

16:27

has to eat their tether. Yeah. Also,

16:30

I hated that they just ate raw rabbit. At least

16:32

cook it first. How many rabbits? How sick would

16:34

you get if you were eating raw, like, game meat?

16:36

You get so sick. All the babies get so sick.

16:38

So sick. That's one of the things that

16:40

like every time I see this movie, I was like, rabbit? And

16:43

they'd have to catch them? Why couldn't it be like,

16:45

we have unlimited protein bars? Because that's

16:47

just as dumb, but plausible. This

16:50

tether is sponsored by Cliff Bar.

16:52

They're like, the government keeps bringing

16:54

protein bars. And I'm like, I

16:56

think it's rabbits because of cloning. I think the

16:58

implication is they're clones. It is. Mikey,

17:00

how do you not love this movie?

17:03

It's basically clones hunting their clones. They

17:05

can't be clones because the kids happen

17:08

naturally because the scientists abandoned them before

17:10

they had kids. That's fair. So

17:12

they would have to, they would have to fuck

17:14

at the exact moment with the exact same sperm

17:16

to get the exact same children. It doesn't. Mikey.

17:20

I mean, that's, again, this is where when you think too hard

17:22

about it. Exactly. But that's what

17:24

I hate. I love the scariness and I

17:26

love the aesthetic and I love the horror

17:28

of it. It is a great

17:31

horror movie. And like even today I was like,

17:33

fuck, I forgot how anxiety inducing

17:35

this movie is. They could have left

17:37

it at her creepy monologue in front

17:40

of the fire. Yeah. And

17:42

that's all you needed to do. That's fair.

17:44

You didn't need to cut into their world.

17:46

You didn't need to, don't, and the Hands

17:48

Across America thing loses me every time in

17:51

a way that rarely things do. I

17:53

don't hate it, but I also, I feel like you

17:55

need the Hands Across America stuff to get the twist

17:57

at the end. And if you just didn't have the

17:59

twist. at the end you could leave it at

18:01

that fireplace monologue and you wouldn't really lose anything. But

18:04

I think for me, because one of the

18:06

most horrifying aspects of this movie for me

18:09

is the facelift with

18:11

Elizabeth Moss's tether. Like

18:14

this reality they basically just held her

18:16

down and cut her face. Like terrifying,

18:18

right? Like on top of all the

18:20

like horrifying pregnancy rape implications that are

18:22

in this film. But also

18:24

to look at that as someone

18:26

who has experienced that horror and

18:28

then the theft of a person.

18:30

To like push someone into that

18:32

knowingly and be like I have

18:34

to fight for me. Like

18:37

that's the ultimate classism. It's the

18:39

like the people who are wronged

18:41

because like obviously the greater people

18:43

above air quotes government or whatever

18:45

or what put everybody in this

18:47

situation and yet she still chooses

18:49

to attack and kill. The people

18:51

who are also victims like her

18:53

because that's the only way that she gets to

18:56

have her American dream. It's

18:58

a wild movie that I feel like you could talk about

19:00

for weeks. Yeah. I love the

19:02

class as a metaphor that I didn't talk about at all during the

19:04

first episode. But

19:06

I've rewatched this movie a few times since

19:08

then. Yeah. And that's why

19:10

I like it. I like it because I

19:13

just I really like it. I just hate

19:15

that sequence. Where does this

19:17

rank for you in the Jordan P.

19:20

Levers? It just depends. Like the

19:22

first 45 minutes I rank it number one.

19:24

And then for the rest of the movie

19:26

I rank it third. It's great

19:28

for the first 45 minutes. That's

19:31

fair. Yeah. Honestly

19:33

I really love the setup of this movie.

19:35

Yes. But damn if I don't love the

19:37

back half of it. But I mean it's

19:39

also still pretty great. I wish it was

19:42

more of like this one family and like

19:44

her double is not the leader and it's

19:46

just one family trying to struggle all of

19:48

these others coming up without explanation and trying

19:50

to murder everyone above them. OK. And

19:53

then it's just them trying to survive the week or whatever. Todd

19:55

and I while you were in the bathroom thought it would

19:57

be interesting if it was one neighborhood. And so you still

19:59

have the multiple families but it's just this

20:01

one neighborhood. It's much smaller and it's you

20:03

know you're dealing with like three or four

20:06

families of clones rising up and maybe there's

20:08

not the true tether as much as it's

20:10

just clones. I mean there isn't a true

20:12

tether in this movie either. That's fair. So

20:15

I mean but they say there is. Like

20:17

it's like this whole thing that's like not

20:19

really explained because the person who's explaining it

20:21

to us doesn't fucking know either because

20:24

she was born in the upside

20:26

world and then got like... Yeah,

20:28

unreliable narrator. Yeah and then I

20:30

got kidnapped and like it's been

20:32

generations they said since the government

20:35

stops doing the

20:37

clones without a soul work like voodoo

20:39

on the upstairs people and they don't

20:41

so they just left them there. Which

20:43

if you think about that how

20:46

many generations? No Mikey I know

20:48

it's been generations question mark. A

20:50

generation is 30 years. Yeah but

20:52

what happens to the body is like yeah like there's

20:55

a lot of questions we don't answer but here's my

20:57

question before we get into the movie because I know

20:59

we have to dive in because... Oh yeah

21:01

I want to say one thing after you're done but

21:03

yeah. Do you want to go first? Because

21:05

this question will definitely discuss it. Yeah I'll

21:07

go first because mine's not like mine's not

21:09

like prophetic or what or good. I'm like

21:11

I'm like half staff

21:13

or whatever you call it. I'm half

21:15

mass right now. I don't think you

21:18

should say you're half mass and then

21:20

wink at me Mikey. He said half

21:22

staff first. I know. Mikey

21:25

may have COVID but he's

21:27

still half mass ladies. Oh

21:30

you gotta be you know I was born

21:32

ready. Or half ready. Anyway say what you

21:34

want. It

21:36

taps into like the fear you have of

21:38

like the poor masses or like

21:40

people coming over the border or people

21:43

in the cities and stuff. Like in

21:45

like other groups like it just taps

21:47

really into that and it taps into

21:49

other groups who have other you. And

21:52

so you're right Pate you just talk

21:54

out of forever because both sides have

21:56

really good points and both not

21:58

both sides like. Both sides but

22:01

like people want to rise up we have

22:03

an assistant where you have to fight to rise up

22:05

and then people want to Defend it and like no

22:07

one it like it just sucks

22:09

and we really should be fighting the system

22:11

Yeah, but like that this is how you

22:13

could talk about this movie for months, which

22:16

right is why? Like

22:18

yes, I rank nope and get

22:20

out before it but not cuz this is a

22:22

bad movie I know those are also great movies

22:24

I also love the purge movie and

22:26

we haven't revisited those because of these

22:29

types of conversations. I think yeah Well

22:33

the purge goes purge goes like way off

22:36

the coo-coo I like the purge

22:38

equals a lot because they go wild I think I'd

22:40

like the sequels better than the first one the

22:42

first one I thought was a little murky we

22:44

live in a time primed for Like

22:47

the purge style murdering of billionaires like playing

22:49

being played out in movies like that is

22:51

a theme that would play well So I

22:53

would be shocked if the purge doesn't do

22:56

that I mean I feel

22:58

like they kind of take different avenues with it for

23:00

each sequel and that's all kind of interesting because like

23:02

the first one I love as a

23:04

concept, but it has story issues that

23:06

make their characters Murky

23:09

and indefensible sometimes and and it

23:11

doesn't make for a great viewing experience for me

23:14

The second one a dude just trains

23:16

all year to kill the person who

23:18

killed his kid love it in

23:20

a hundred and ten percent I mean that

23:22

sounds it's not at all what I explained,

23:24

but that also slaps like that sounds amazing

23:27

Sounds great The second one is like this

23:29

political undertone, but it's really this guy's like

23:31

oh, there's a purge So I can just

23:33

murder the person who accidentally killed my kids

23:35

last year. So accidentally now I'm less on

23:37

board There's a DUI so like he's still

23:39

going There's

23:42

some gray area there he may learn a lesson

23:44

throughout his purge night, but we'll find out when

23:46

we do that movie I'll say this if he's

23:48

drunk when he kills them. I'm sort of okay

23:50

with it. Anyway. Oh, you mean the guy has

23:53

to drink Yeah to purge kill him. Yes.

23:55

All right. It's like hey If

23:58

you could say the alphabet backwards and That

24:00

matter, I did. You read up a build

24:02

the Mad Max card to like hunt the

24:04

guy. So.

24:06

He's like. This

24:09

one we are doing. That

24:11

movie, the others, the big government people are those

24:13

like the resistance. That's all the background but really

24:15

your focus on Mad Max tried to kill the

24:17

person who killed his good with a guy like

24:20

a couple of their car breaks down in the

24:22

middle. The Persian is likes to are going to

24:24

save this couple or avenge my son and your.

24:27

Our. Noble of here for your journalists are.

24:29

Okay movies. It will get to a time

24:31

when we talked about doing more purge movies

24:34

for a while we just always that are

24:36

doing other things. Anyway here's my question before

24:38

we get into this movie. what is your

24:40

theory for why the government did this was

24:43

he says. Minds Install.

24:45

A I my brain goes the Mk Ultra.

24:47

Low. as far as I said you

24:49

it was. they wanted to experiment cloning

24:51

so they did share and realized that

24:53

I didn't have a soul or whatever

24:55

or the clone didn't have a soul

24:57

or whatever as explained in this movie

24:59

and and they were like what what

25:01

are we do with the unsold and

25:03

then we just like may try to

25:05

do like voodoo dolls I guess and

25:07

that didn't work so they bailed out.

25:09

The problem with that is hashtag not

25:11

my government won't try to murder everything

25:13

about it. mistakes on you know? hi.

25:16

My government. Would have murdered

25:18

every single tethered person underground with

25:20

flame throwers before leaving them down

25:22

there. unpredictably Sets there's that also

25:25

works with a metaphor. That yeah

25:27

they absolutely le plus the speed

25:29

lot of windows for sure. My

25:31

thinking was could cloning and definitely

25:33

a possibility my thinking was a

25:35

Manchurian candidate warming. They say it's cloning

25:38

paid like they say it's clone and six billion

25:40

of them. Yet waters, if you

25:42

have one for everybody, they didn't,

25:44

You can control anybody. Like literally

25:47

anybody. That. Makes sense if it works.

25:49

Is that like wouldn't leave these billions

25:51

of people underground. It'll be fine. That

25:53

adds that services America they would have

25:55

just steam. Rolled through those all different would have

25:57

had a different way the tether and not acted out.

26:00

puppets underneath the ground. I was like, so

26:02

is there like ground, like everywhere on the

26:04

surface has a ground part? That's

26:06

a part that doesn't work but I

26:08

also do love the pantomime in this

26:10

movie. I'm a sucker for interpretive dance

26:13

in film media but I realize that

26:15

that's a me thing. That is a sentence

26:17

I will not get behind in any way, shape, or

26:19

form. That's fine. That's okay. I'm not gonna

26:21

hold space for all that but I'm not in

26:23

a season for interpretive dance in my film. I'm

26:26

in a season for all interpretive dance

26:28

all the time. Give it to me.

26:30

That and poetry. I'm here for it.

26:32

I'm a sensitive little baby. I am

26:34

too. Do you guys want to get

26:36

into this movie so we can go through a

26:38

scene by scene though? Yes. Nice. We

26:40

open on a TV broadcasting

26:43

a commercial for Hands Across

26:45

America. If you look above the

26:47

TV, there are a handful of films that are meant

26:49

to be a reference for this movie, namely Chud is

26:51

one of them, but there's a handful of other ones

26:53

out there. I'll go over them in fun facts. Nice.

26:56

I did love how this commercial is like

26:59

just the first thing we see. Doesn't make

27:01

any sense for the next like, I don't

27:03

know, hour 20, but it does come back

27:05

at the end. I don't know. I thought

27:08

it was very funny to me. I

27:10

like it. As a device, I think

27:12

it's pretty fun. I also really liked because

27:14

they use the original commercial, I believe.

27:16

Yes. And that original commercial says, go

27:19

to your local record store to learn

27:21

more. And that was like, there are

27:23

so many different record stores across America

27:25

and that group just talks to all

27:27

of them, I guess. Yeah. Okay, no,

27:30

Todd, so this was like, you could

27:32

purchase special records and stuff that would

27:34

donate to the campaign. Oh, I didn't.

27:36

I mean, this is like, yeah, yeah, that's the

27:38

thing. When your media only had

27:40

like three inputs. Yes, you could

27:42

really do some stuff. Yeah,

27:45

you can really get the message out there when there

27:47

are only three TV stations. Pretty much.

27:49

Also, we get an old

27:51

Santa Cruz Beach boardwalk commercial and it is

27:53

one of the ones that I remember from

27:55

childhood, but specifically we cut

27:58

to the boardwalk, which. changed

28:00

they basically shot it as is but

28:03

they set it in 1986 most importantly so that

28:07

this movie exists within the universe of another

28:09

movie we have done on this podcast. Well

28:11

isn't it also when Hands Across America was? Yes,

28:14

but specifically she says they're filming a

28:16

movie over by the carousel you should

28:19

see if they need extras. Oh my

28:21

god they were filming the Lost Boys!

28:23

Because they were filming Lost Boys right

28:25

at that time. We had a

28:28

chance to get Tim Capella and

28:30

another movie as Jordan Peele didn't

28:32

do it just like in the background

28:34

playing that song. I still believe! Here's

28:36

the other part of it too we

28:38

don't see his face very much in

28:40

this movie in fact he is only

28:43

in a handful of scenes but

28:45

the dad is played by Yaya

28:47

Abdul-Mateen II who is candy man

28:49

in New Candy Man or played

28:52

candy man in New Candy Man and

28:54

this was like only a couple years

28:56

before Candy Man came out so people

28:58

didn't necessarily like know he was gonna be a

29:00

big deal but I think he's also amazing in

29:02

this and you barely see him it's

29:04

just one of those things that I like to pick out every time

29:07

I see it. I mean he's great in this but

29:09

he plays her unattentive father more or less.

29:11

Her father who has it is depicted

29:13

as having a drinking problem and that

29:15

is partially why he is inattentive because

29:18

I don't know if you guys know

29:20

but the boardwalk fucking slaps and you

29:22

can walk around drunk there so he's

29:25

playing a lot of the Midway games and

29:27

he wins her a thriller t-shirt. Now

29:30

I think it's very important a not

29:32

only because of the time frame thriller

29:34

would have been popular but if you

29:37

remember the thriller music video directed by

29:39

John Landis that zombies come out of

29:41

the sewer like that is a thing

29:43

that happens in thriller as well there's

29:45

a whole bunch of like references to

29:47

those types of things throughout this entire

29:50

movie I think that's a fun one.

29:52

So that's cool yeah This is where

29:54

her mom says they're filming over by the

29:56

carousel see if they need extras that would of course have

29:58

been lost boys. But instead

30:00

he has another beer and plays whack-a-mole

30:02

with a carnival operator that looks like

30:05

my husband a little bit Yeah, a

30:07

little I was like Jake. Where

30:09

were you in? Probably

30:13

not born like actually no he

30:15

was I wasn't but he was yeah He

30:17

was just a tiny baby with the biggest

30:19

beard at the hospital Anyway,

30:22

her mom goes to the bathroom. Her dad is

30:24

not watching her She wanders off down the beach

30:26

as someone who has spent many a summer at

30:28

the Santa Cruz Beach boardwalk Do not

30:31

go on the beach after dark. It's

30:33

not safe or at least his kids

30:35

We were not supposed to because it's

30:37

not me for kids. I guess yeah, yeah

30:39

for kids at least I think it's more of

30:42

like a glass bottle needle situation I mean how

30:44

many parents let their kids walk around

30:46

outside at night in a public place

30:48

unattended we get it We get it

30:50

Todd you grew up warmest That's

30:56

fair The

30:59

boardwalk It has a bunch of

31:02

rides and everything and you could get at least when I went I

31:04

don't know if this is the case In the 80s when

31:06

I went as a kid you gave a wristband

31:08

that let you go on anything all day just

31:10

like unlimited rides you just got on whatever you

31:12

wanted and A lot of

31:14

them are either like just you got

31:17

to be this tall the ride or

31:19

whatever or just free-for-all Yeah, and so

31:21

it does feel kind of like Disneyland

31:24

where you could kind of let your

31:26

kids go and you're probably Okay,

31:29

especially if they're older, you know But

31:31

along the boardwalk one side of it

31:33

just opens out onto the beach and

31:35

the water is pretty far out But you

31:37

could just walk down the stairs onto the beach

31:40

They do kind of rope it off at night,

31:42

but like, you know, she but she's also in

31:44

this scene. She's very very young Yeah, she's

31:46

like six, right? I'm not a hundred percent sure but

31:48

I think they say she's sick Yeah, yeah, but so

31:50

she walks and she walks to the Hall

31:52

of Mirrors on the beach Now this is one of

31:54

the few things in this movie that is not actually

31:56

at the boardwalk It's one of the things they built

31:58

just for the movie There isn't

32:01

a comparable attraction or whatever

32:03

like it, but in 1986 It's

32:06

called vision quest because there was a

32:08

1985 film called vision quest nice And

32:10

it says find yourself under that which

32:12

I thought was great and at the

32:15

end when the ride has Updated to

32:17

like Merlin quest I think Merlin's

32:19

journey or something whatever it is yeah something

32:21

like that And then it says the find

32:23

yourself is still exactly as it was for

32:26

the vision quest one I thought that was cool. Yep,

32:28

but so she walks inside and this

32:31

scene the tension in this scene

32:33

is Incredibly well

32:35

done. It's lit very specifically

32:37

it looks very scary

32:39

And it's heard trying to find her way

32:41

out and she can't every time she thinks

32:44

she sees the exit It's a mirror and

32:46

she keeps seeing what looks like herself until

32:48

finally she has basically one mirror and turns

32:50

and screams We don't know exactly what happens

32:52

until a few minutes from now, and we'll

32:54

talk about it when we get to it

32:56

Well, we don't fully know what happens until

32:59

like a minute before I end of this

33:01

movie in a very laughable post reveal reveal

33:03

Yeah, and I always say laughable because like

33:05

the reveal is some like we've been following

33:07

her the whole time this whole movie We're

33:10

rooting for her. I don't get a fuck

33:12

where she came from so like when they

33:14

reveal it. I'm like oh, yeah cool That's

33:16

awesome good for her like great. She got

33:19

out. Yeah, that's great good for her. Yeah

33:21

controversial opinion I don't think there are evil

33:23

six-year-olds same right, but I feel like the

33:25

movie tried to tell me there are and

33:27

I was like I know this isn't working for me I

33:29

think the movie tried to tell you that there are people

33:31

who live in ways that are like not great Sometimes

33:34

and they might blame you maybe rightfully so for

33:36

the way they have to live not so greatly

33:38

and they might want to take That angst out

33:41

on you, but like six-year-old.

33:43

Yeah, I don't think I don't think the movie

33:45

calls her evil Because I think

33:47

she just trades places, you know Like I

33:49

think she's in a bad situation and tries

33:51

to get out of it Yeah, she does

33:53

like I think she's trying to survive now

33:56

is what she does, right? No, do I

33:58

do I think she is? Consumately

34:00

evil? No! She should

34:02

have tried to corner the frozen

34:05

orange juice market. Orange Julius? That's

34:07

my Trading Places movie joke that

34:09

I'm throwing in. Oh my god!

34:11

That actually is a great Trading

34:13

Places joke! That is a great

34:16

joke. Holy shit! It's really specifically

34:18

vague. And honestly, what is Trading

34:20

Places, if not the comedy version

34:22

of this movie? Right,

34:25

right. Or that one time that Hildesanta Tamaas

34:27

put a bunch of moss on that wall

34:29

and tried to convince a homeowner to like

34:31

it. Oh no, wait, that's Trading Spaces. Sorry.

34:33

That was a deep cut joke for like

34:35

five people. My favorite episode of

34:37

Trading Spaces is when... Fuck,

34:40

why can't I be smart right now?

34:43

Who is in Halloween? Who is in

34:45

Halloween? Jamie Lee Curtis. Jamie Lee Curtis.

34:47

My favorite episode of Trading Spaces is

34:50

when Jamie Lee Curtis shows her boobs.

34:54

That's a fish called Wanda! That's

34:56

also Trading Places! Oh yeah it

34:58

is! You're right, you're right. But then her neighbors were

35:00

like, we don't like these boobs, we're gonna paint over them.

35:05

I like that. Central. There

35:08

is an owl jump scare that I'm sure got

35:10

Todd in this scene. It did get me,

35:12

yeah. And I love at the end when La

35:14

Pita Nuevango beats the shit out of it. I'm

35:16

like, yeah, fuck that owl. I don't think my

35:19

other would kill me. You don't think your tether

35:21

would kill you? No. I don't think

35:23

my tether would kill me either.

35:25

Why? Show your work. Okay, because deep

35:27

inside, I'm dead and sad. So

35:29

deep inside, he's alive and happy?

35:31

Yeah, exactly, Mikey. So maybe you're

35:33

the tether. Yeah, I escaped because

35:35

I'm an evil six-year-old. You see

35:38

Jamie Lee Curtis's boobs. Mikey's an

35:40

evil six-year-old lady. I don't like

35:42

this. I don't like this at

35:44

all, yeah. I've been doing a

35:47

lot of inner child work and

35:50

I'm not really doing that. That

35:53

is very apparent. I

35:56

played a lot of Legos. Lego of all the

35:58

wealth, you know what I'm saying? I

36:01

mean you're always gonna get me with

36:03

top brow classism Lego jokes I'm

36:07

trying to make up for my poor commentary the

36:09

first episode I'm

36:12

gonna double up on the puns in

36:14

this one that's gonna make it better

36:16

People are gonna be like Mikey really

36:18

understands classism. It's almost like he went

36:21

to class in his classism

36:26

Anyway, we get the credits which is

36:28

a bunch of rabbits now it is Torture

36:32

they are so Fucking

36:35

long and do nothing Nothing

36:38

at all for the movie. Why? Waste

36:42

my time with these credits.

36:44

I fast-forward the credits after

36:46

the first minute. I was

36:48

like, bro. It's Insane

36:51

I should be able to like request a

36:53

refund for two bucks off the

36:56

ticket price for was those rabbits Tethers

36:58

of real rabbits up top. They were

37:00

yeah, they must have been I mean,

37:02

no, I don't think so I think

37:04

they were just rabbits because clones just

37:06

clones. Yeah, well rabbit, which you could

37:08

have done sheep, too Right, you could

37:11

have done sheep maybe in the Scottish

37:13

tunnels. It's sheep That's way better

37:15

than just eating a rabbit raw but like

37:17

whatever I don't know you have to chew

37:19

through the wool that makes my mouth feel

37:21

bad Are we to believe they didn't have

37:23

cooking like utensils or implements like

37:25

they said raw? They're

37:27

eating rabbit sushi every night on a

37:30

revolving plate. All they had

37:32

was six billion pairs of

37:34

scissors Together

37:37

you're gonna make some heat baby, you know what

37:39

I'm saying? Nothing makes it anyway The reason

37:41

I bring up the credits is because this

37:43

is the first time we hear the score

37:45

of the film Which does

37:47

sound like Latin and chanting, but it

37:49

is actually not Specifically

37:52

they wrote the syllables to be

37:54

nonsense so that it gave you

37:56

this dread and feeling but you

37:58

couldn't isolate any of what

38:01

they were saying, it's meant specifically

38:03

to make you uneasy. I mean,

38:05

so Latin would have achieved the same

38:07

purpose, so like I don't care. I mean,

38:09

that's cool though. I like that they went

38:11

that far into it, but I'm not a

38:13

doctor, so I don't speak a dead language.

38:16

So like, it still sounds like Latin to

38:18

me. Nothing makes me uneasy. I'm always easy.

38:20

Ladies. Easy like some

38:22

morning. Even though

38:25

you don't speak Latin, you would have

38:27

probably caught roots or something. Like, I

38:29

don't know if you've heard that song,

38:31

they're like, like, you know, that kind

38:33

of one. Like you would have heard

38:35

something. Yeah, most of my favorite operas are

38:37

in Latin, but like I don't speak it.

38:39

Like, but I'm just saying like, I get

38:41

it. It worked. But Latin would have also

38:43

worked. That's a phrase you don't hear often.

38:46

Most of my favorite operas. You

38:48

don't have favorite, like, classical

38:50

music, Mikey. Todd, who do you

38:52

think you're asking right now? No,

38:54

no, no, no, no. I have,

38:56

I have heteronormative hobbies. This

38:59

is like if you went up to Donald Trump

39:01

and were like, do you have favorite, like,

39:03

actual books? No, of course not. I

39:05

do have favorite books, but I don't

39:07

have favorite operas. Not necessarily

39:09

opera, but you have like, classical composers

39:12

you like, right? No, of course he

39:14

doesn't, Todd. I like, I like Chopin.

39:16

Okay. That's just the only one you could

39:18

remember right now. Betolvin. Betolvin.

39:22

I don't know why you had to

39:24

say it like that. The great Spanish

39:26

composer, Betolvin. I mean, I like Salarium

39:28

or whatever his name was. No, Salieri

39:30

was Mozart's,

39:33

like, rival if the movies to

39:35

be believed. Only in the film. Right, right, right,

39:37

right. Which I love. Listen,

39:39

it's great. Raindrops, uh, Raindrops Sonata

39:41

is one of my favorite pieces.

39:44

Moonlight Sonata, but cool. The,

39:47

uh, the other one. What other

39:49

one? The one that's, the one

39:51

that's about raindrops. Yeah. Raindrops keep

39:53

falling on the key. The, the

39:56

raindrop prelude number 28,

39:58

you know, opera 28. I show

40:00

up at whatever the raindrop preludes my

40:02

favorite is Chopin broccoli anyway, we should

40:05

move on That's a Dana

40:07

Carvey joke. No one's gonna get Mm-hmm.

40:09

If only we were on an Opera podcast and

40:11

not a comedy one One

40:13

day no not for me,

40:16

bro. Not for me either Maybe

40:18

my tether likes opera or whatever that

40:20

they do down there. I bet your

40:22

tether is super into music They like just

40:25

music in general, but definitely music theater Mikey's

40:27

tether is definitely like singing

40:30

his favorite song from 1776

40:33

the musical downstairs like that is what Mikey's

40:35

tether is doing Mikey's tether

40:37

is breakdancing right now He's

40:40

got the most worn out car cardboard and

40:43

wrist pads Yes, he can do the

40:45

spin on his head because Mikey has a

40:47

pretty square head but his tether said slightly

40:49

rounded He does have a square head

40:51

square head like mr. Incredible but

40:54

to music That's

40:56

how people describe me What

40:59

would your tether be doing page fat shaming people?

41:03

Hey, I already do that if there's enough money Sorry,

41:07

I have a roast this week, but also I'm

41:09

telling jokes Yeah,

41:12

no, I don't know what my tether would be do I

41:15

I'm thinking she'd be a real prude Maybe

41:17

you have a podcast about how mcg films are

41:19

the best films My

41:27

brother would be on that podcast and nothing

41:29

but Jim shorts and a tank top No

41:31

way, bro. Your tether is like

41:33

in the tethered army Rangers down

41:35

there Just like the biggest macho

41:38

like testosterone driven dude like ever

41:40

I'd be honored I'm

41:44

That's not even how wolves work. Oh my god.

41:46

I read a smutty romance book about wolves No,

41:50

it was way weirder cuz they got into like

41:53

the the type of sex wolves would have anyway

41:55

we could talk style

42:00

page. Oddly enough, it's just boring missionary,

42:02

but they're in dog form. That

42:04

was really fun. We'll

42:06

talk about it during our bonus episode the next

42:09

time we have one. That way they can howl

42:11

to each other. Well, they have to be facing

42:13

you so you hold, because you have to hold

42:15

the treat. I have like honest

42:17

notes. No, my

42:19

day! Sorry. There's people spreading

42:22

peanut butter in an indiscreet place. Get

42:25

out the toys. Squeak, squeak. It's a squeaky

42:27

toy. You want this Kong girl?

42:30

No baby, get the Nutella. Oh

42:33

no, I think that

42:35

went bad, I think.

42:39

Nah, I'll bring it up again on the

42:41

bonus episode and we'll have fun. Yes,

42:44

we have a shitload of listener mail to open guys. We'll

42:46

talk about that and salt burn and

42:50

there was something else we had to talk about,

42:52

but definitely those two. Love is blind. Love

42:54

is blind. What will the peanut

42:56

yongo look like to me? Like exactly

42:58

like Megan Fox. Anyway. What the fuck?

43:00

That's such a good joke for Love

43:02

is Blind. Thank you Mikey. Oh,

43:07

any hoodle, we cut after

43:09

the very long credits to an overhead

43:12

shot like The Shining. The Shining,

43:14

just so you know, is one of the movies that

43:16

Jordan Peele asked them to watch prior to making this

43:18

movie. He gave them a list of movies to watch

43:21

and that was one of them. Oh cool. They

43:23

get the overhead shining driving shot. They're

43:25

driving to a cabin. The kids are

43:27

asleep. They get to the cabin and

43:29

Winston Duke turns around and screams for

43:32

them to wake up because he is

43:34

the best dad ever. I

43:36

do like him a lot. I want him to play

43:38

every dad. Yeah. Love. He's

43:41

great. And hot AF. I'm into

43:43

it. Nice. Yeah. Like

43:46

I liked him as Um Baku. I like him in this. That bed

43:48

is too small, but I don't care. Yeah, they never actually

43:50

use that bed because they get attacked that first night they're

43:52

there but like he did take up a lot of

43:54

it. I'm not gonna lie. Like it's not a very big

43:56

bed, but he's laying in it. He's like laying in the

43:58

whole thing. Six foot five.

44:00

Yeah, he a big dude. He's massive. But I

44:02

love that like despite how imposing he

44:05

looks because that Physicality definitely works when

44:07

he's playing his tether It

44:10

really does but when you're when you're seeing

44:12

him in his Howard shirt Like yes, you

44:14

just his shot in a way that makes

44:16

him look way smaller than he is But

44:18

his tether does look sort of huge his

44:20

body language and tone is yeah. Yeah. No

44:22

it is. It's the performance, too Yeah, when

44:24

I do de-escalation stuff It's like I have

44:27

to be because I'm like a bigger dude

44:29

and that's yeah Naturally something that people don't

44:31

like right and so I have to be

44:33

like I have to do certain things to

44:35

like Create a comfort level which is like

44:37

kneel down if their kids are like be

44:39

really mindful of tone and body language and be

44:41

I actually turn up the goofiness a little bit

44:44

There's a lot of waving side to side like this because

44:47

it makes big people seem like really Unintimidating

44:50

like hi and then you like wave

44:52

side to side and makes you just

44:54

seem Yeah, it just makes you seem

44:56

very not like like a threat

44:58

Yeah So you have to be like really much because

45:00

you gotta be really mindful of everything like that With

45:04

with tone and body language and all that stuff We're

45:06

tears, but I feel like he mastered that with

45:08

this role cuz he does both sides of the

45:10

spectrum with the with the other And I really

45:13

appreciate that his performance Like absolutely because

45:15

like he's the same guy they didn't

45:17

alter his body at all, but you

45:19

perceive him as Weaker

45:21

than the other guy even though and

45:23

it's because he's goofy He's like I'm

45:25

just a dad when he goes outside

45:27

to try and like threaten them

45:29

later He like drops his voice in

45:32

octave like he has to

45:34

sound more imposing. I thought that shit was so

45:36

funny hilarious Yeah, his his performance.

45:38

I mean Lupita Nyongas performance is amazing.

45:40

Yeah, his performance is amazing Tim

45:43

Heidecker and Elizabeth Moss both amazing

45:46

like this movie does not get

45:48

enough credit for how good the

45:50

Acting is in it. Yeah for

45:53

everyone doing so much work to

45:55

diversify those two roles Phenomenal.

45:58

Yeah, so good. It is Anyway,

46:00

they get to the house. This was clearly

46:02

Lupita Nyong'o's character's childhood home because we see

46:04

a lot of her stuff of her as

46:07

a kid. But she

46:09

is clearly uneasy, like from the

46:11

jump. And they're talking about going to

46:14

the beach later and she's like, what beach? We're not

46:16

going to, there's a beach over here. Now here's the

46:18

thing. If you have not been to Santa Cruz, you

46:20

might not know. Although, I mean, you can watch this

46:22

movie, you could see a lot of it. The beach

46:24

is like 15 minutes or

46:26

so down the hill along the coast.

46:28

There are bays and rivers and creeks

46:30

and everything as well because right up next

46:32

to the beach is forest, like

46:34

full blown forest. So when

46:37

they're running around the cabin and the trees and

46:39

the forest, that's literally minutes away from the beach.

46:41

And there's a number of beaches along the way.

46:43

So I think she's very fearful of going to

46:45

the beach where she disappeared as a child, worried

46:48

that her tether is going to catch up with

46:50

her because she's the only one that knows that's

46:52

even a possibility. But it's clearly not the first

46:54

time they've been to the cabin. So I feel

46:56

like that's one of the things that

46:59

they kind of balance is that whenever they

47:01

come here, I think she manages her visibility

47:03

to the main beach. It's not

47:05

that she's never been back, really. Yeah. I

47:08

mean, even though she's lived close most of

47:10

her life, she just doesn't go back. Yeah.

47:13

Which like, I get it. Why return to the scene of the crime, you know? A

47:15

hundred percent. But this is also where

47:17

she starts to see synchronicities. So

47:19

she sees the spider next to the toy

47:21

spider. Later we'll see the frisbee on

47:23

top of the circle. And she does say, she's like,

47:25

I don't want to go to the beach. It's crowded

47:28

there and there are weirdos. There are indeed weirdos. Sometimes

47:31

even shirtless men with saxophones

47:33

or vampires. But also

47:35

like hacky sackers. It's

47:38

Santa Cruz. Anyway, they do decide to

47:40

go to the beach. But

47:42

as they're getting ready, she kind of walks through the

47:45

house. We see the ballet room that'll come

47:47

back later and the mirrors, because mirrors are

47:49

very important in this film symbolically and thematically.

47:51

This is also the first time that we

47:53

see Jason accidentally get locked in that little

47:55

cabinet. That's going to come back as well.

47:58

Yeah. And they hear a honking outside. and

48:00

go to the dock behind their cabin where

48:02

we reveal that their dad has bought a

48:04

boat and he is the craw daddy now

48:07

even though we don't really have craw dads

48:09

that's more of a swamp bug. It's also the name of

48:11

the boat that's why he's saying it. It's

48:14

the name of the boat he's driving. Oh I thought he was

48:16

saying that he is the craw daddy but okay. I mean he

48:18

is but that's the name of the boat like he is just

48:20

saying that. I mean he's definitely

48:22

daddy for sure. But

48:25

that's what the boat says like that's the name of the

48:27

boat. Yeah. Like it looks like

48:30

it came out of a muddy river like

48:32

it does not anyway. Yeah that's true.

48:36

But they drive to the beach and I do

48:38

love that in the back seat Zora the daughter

48:40

is like you know that the government puts fluoride

48:42

in the water to control our minds and no

48:44

one else asks her about it and she's like

48:46

I guess nobody cares. So it's like I

48:49

mean that will be very important later

48:51

like weirdly enough. They put in the

48:53

water for your protection of your teeth.

48:55

For your teeth. Maybe. I

48:58

guess Mikey would be okay with it

49:00

because he loves teeth guys. He works

49:02

for the fucking government. That's what it

49:05

is. He went to Quantico to learn about the fluoride.

49:08

And all I got was this lousy t-shirt. I

49:12

went to Quantico to learn about the fluoride and

49:15

all I got was this t-shirt. Somebody

49:18

makes that as a t-shirt. That's the

49:20

one I want. I'll put it right

49:22

next to my shirt that says. Lost

49:26

man stole my catalytic converter at Point

49:28

Pleasant West Virginia. Anyway

49:31

they go to the beach. This is where we

49:33

get the iconic scene from this film where they're

49:35

listening to I Got Five On It on their

49:37

way to Santa Cruz. Now it does appear that

49:39

it's the original and not the remix featuring E-40

49:41

which arguably for me is the more popular version

49:43

but fine. And I do love that when this

49:46

trailer came out people were like oh they made it

49:48

the spooky version I was like no that's just how

49:50

the song starts. Like they made

49:52

it echo a bit but like it's just

49:54

a dope beat. It is a great song.

49:56

Great song. Yeah. She has a flashback

49:58

to her in the car. coming back from the

50:01

beach that night while her parents are like, what

50:03

happened to her? She got lost. Why was she

50:05

like, we will, we kind of are gradually finding

50:07

out that she disappeared that night. They

50:09

found her a few minutes later, but

50:11

when they found her, she was not

50:13

the same. So if it's your first

50:15

time seeing the movie to you, that

50:17

translates as, Oh, something fucked up happened

50:19

to her. And we will

50:22

learn differently later, but that's where our

50:24

brain is at for the bulk of

50:26

the movie. Now, we do see an

50:29

older version of a guy that she saw on the

50:31

boardwalk as a child in 1986

50:33

holding a sign that says Jeremiah 1111.

50:37

I do have that pulled up so you know what it is.

50:39

Jeremiah 1111. Therefore

50:41

thus says the Lord all caps,

50:44

behold, I am bringing disaster upon them

50:47

that they cannot escape though. They cry

50:49

to me. I will not listen to

50:51

them. I'm going to bring calamity upon

50:53

them and they will not escape though.

50:55

They beg for mercy. I will

50:58

not listen to their cries.

51:00

All right. Clones. You know

51:02

how Jesus be talking about clones? Just

51:04

kidding. It's Jeremiah and we can't get into

51:07

it. This isn't cult podcast anyway. So that

51:10

guy, she, she sees the same guy, but

51:12

he's dead. He's being loaded into an ambulance.

51:15

Now, as they walk on the

51:17

beach, this is a very cool

51:19

shot. It's completely overhead and they

51:21

all have shadows, but her hers

51:23

goes the other direction. Yeah. Like,

51:25

they all look duplicated except hers

51:28

is off, uh, which like on

51:30

a second or third or a subsequent

51:32

watch, there's a lot of stuff

51:34

like that that you notice where the movie's like, something's

51:38

wrong. Yeah. She is the, ooh,

51:40

the owls are not what they

51:42

seem like that kind of, ooh,

51:45

who, who, who? That's my favorite. There's

51:47

like a thing on social media where

51:49

people go around the office and they're

51:51

like, they're, they're calling you an

51:53

owl. They're like, who, who? I

51:57

can't believe that you got bit by an owl. I knew it.

52:01

So we get to the

52:04

beach where we meet their friends, Tim

52:06

Heidecker and Elizabeth Moss, who are just

52:08

obnoxious rich white people. Like

52:10

picture your first version of obnoxious rich white

52:12

people, don't alter that first draft at all.

52:14

That's who they is. She has

52:16

Rosé on the beach, to which I was like,

52:18

I know you could drink on the boardwalk, but

52:20

I was like open container, who knows. Anyway, she's

52:23

probably got it in a fancy Stanley cup. So

52:25

I think we see it in a wine glass, don't we? She's

52:27

got it in a wine glass, but I bet she had like a

52:29

corksicle or something next to her to like keep it cold. Oh,

52:31

I think he does get it out of the

52:34

cooler in something that is like nondescript, you know,

52:36

like a Stanley throw miss or some shit. Mama

52:38

needs her wine. And

52:41

she does have that energy, like really sort

52:43

of like wine mom. Yeah, wine mom core.

52:45

You did say it's vodka o'clock. Well yeah,

52:48

and then they have to go home because

52:50

she wants to drink vodka. She needs

52:52

to up the intake. Yeah, she's like, I

52:54

can't I'm fine to drink wine at the

52:56

beach and then drive home, but like I've

52:59

got to get home to intake some vodka.

53:01

Ooh, she's like goof. Yeah, that's a like

53:03

wine and vodka as a headache waiting to

53:05

happen. I don't know. Maybe it exercises

53:08

the Faitons. I have no idea. Oh

53:10

yeah, because she's no, she's Scientology.

53:12

Yeah, Scientology is space Mormonism. So

53:14

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Simbler.

53:17

I'm going a little slow, but I can get in this. Space

53:19

Mormonism? Tell me I'm wrong, Paige. Tell me

53:21

I'm wrong. But more than their

53:23

space Mormons because they get the travels as far as

53:25

they get their own planet. Eventually,

53:28

yeah. Or Earth is going to

53:30

fall through the galaxy back towards

53:32

the planet that sits closest to

53:34

the seat of the Lord. I

53:36

don't know anyone who believes that. Well, all

53:38

right. There were some people. Do you know people

53:40

who believe that that that Cain is Bigfoot? Because

53:42

that's another one that I like. No,

53:44

there's no actual Mormons that believe

53:46

that on a real level, but

53:48

they do believe and you all

53:50

witnessed this. That like that

53:53

was one of the funniest days of my life. Did

53:56

we cut that out or did we leave that in? We

53:58

cut it out, baby. We uh, we,

54:01

Mormonism has some racist beliefs, we'll just

54:03

say that. What white people in Utah?

54:06

Racist? Well no, the

54:08

reason, the reason I laugh at it is

54:10

because Todd said it as if like, well

54:13

yeah, didn't they tell you this? It's fucked

54:15

up. And like, and I were like, I've

54:17

never been told that a day in my

54:19

life. What the fuck are you talking about?

54:21

I was like, hashtag not my, not my

54:24

vacation Bible school. Not my BBS. Should

54:27

we just say what it is? Yes,

54:29

Mormons believe that some of the

54:31

people who joined Satan turned into black people.

54:33

No. No. Close

54:35

though man, you're so close. Close. You're so

54:38

close Mikey, I love it. You're like 30% right. That's

54:40

the percentage I like to stay. But I think it's

54:43

more racist. Yeah, the

54:45

version I have heard, correct me if I

54:47

am wrong, when Cain killed

54:49

his brother Abel, he was cursed by

54:51

God. And that curse was

54:54

for him to be a black

54:56

person. Now that is never something I was told

54:58

in my brand of Jesus. I found that out

55:00

as an adult, hearing it from Mormons who were

55:02

like, wait, you guys weren't told that? And

55:05

I was like, what? I mean, from ex Mormons who were

55:07

like, Hey, this is a fucked up thing. I was told

55:09

as a child. Right. And

55:11

I, and I'm here to say, I don't believe that. That's

55:15

crazy. I mean, it's all made up. So yeah, of

55:17

course it's not true. But like, yeah,

55:19

anywho, back to this movie. We also find

55:21

out that Elizabeth Moss's character has had a

55:23

facelift and I do love the subtle shade

55:25

of Lupita Nyong'o being like, Oh yeah, you

55:27

look just like you did last year. In

55:30

blind that the facelift only made her look one year

55:32

long, younger. Well, and then she tries to like play

55:34

it off and be like, yeah, I guess

55:37

that's the goal. Small little like changes that

55:39

make you look the same as you did

55:41

when you were younger. And then

55:43

she calls her friend to whore because she's like,

55:45

not that you would ever need anything whore. I

55:48

was like, why? I mean,

55:50

like, that's how you know their best friend. Yeah.

55:53

Mean girl's energy, man. I mean, that's

55:55

how you know that they're both uncomfortable

55:58

in social situations because Lupita Nyong'o. character

56:00

is not like doesn't really seem to be

56:02

that kind of friend with her well

56:04

I think it goes deeper Lupita Nyong'o's

56:07

character didn't learn to talk until she

56:09

was a child so I think she's

56:11

still nervous making conversations with people I

56:13

also think she just doesn't like her

56:15

very much that's fair that's also fair

56:17

she's just like you smell like Rosé

56:20

in sadness I'm not saying that she's

56:22

like you can't call a friend a whore like

56:24

that cuz like I say shit to my friend

56:26

I can and have yes you

56:28

both call me that all the time but Mikey I

56:30

only say that to you because I love you and

56:32

I don't really think that you are and I have

56:35

that relationship with you do you I do think

56:37

that you are doubling

56:41

down on it it just doesn't seem like

56:43

they're the level of friends to be able

56:45

to say that to each other like it seems

56:47

weird anyway this is also where we

56:49

get the synchronicity of the frisbee landing on

56:51

the blanket covering that circle exactly yeah this

56:53

is where we meet the twins that speak

56:55

in unison and this is

56:57

where Jason her younger son

57:00

goes to the bathroom and

57:02

he does see the the

57:04

Merlin's whatever it's called now he doesn't go in

57:06

he just goes to the bathroom but

57:09

this is where he sees that

57:12

first tether on the beach arms

57:14

out stretched covered in blood yeah

57:16

but it's vodka o'clock and it's

57:19

time for d'Ongo

57:22

does because she can't see Jason yes so she

57:25

like freaks out finds him sort of like maybe

57:27

not yells but scolds him a little bit if

57:29

we're going off without telling people where he went

57:31

for obvious reasons but yeah yeah well cuz I

57:33

mean she's thinking about what happened to her obviously oh

57:35

absolutely I mean she's nervous being there the

57:38

whole time which is on display because she's

57:40

great but we cut back to the cabin where

57:42

she's tucking him in at 11-11 and see

57:46

the picture he drew where he drew the

57:48

tether and she's just like who is this

57:50

like what's going on she's clearly having a

57:52

moment it has you know unsettled her for

57:54

the whole day so we cut to her

57:57

bedroom Winston Duke's getting ready for bed he

57:59

is in a bed far too small

58:01

for him as a giant man and

58:03

she basically is like hey when I was a

58:05

kid I went to the boardwalk I went in

58:08

the Hall of Mirrors I turned around and it

58:10

turned out there was another girl that looked exactly

58:12

like me it wasn't a mirror it was definitely

58:14

a person now I'm pretty sure she's coming for

58:16

me and he's like that's crazy yeah but I

58:18

love you but that okay

58:20

like first of all I like I could take

58:22

you so like if she comes for you like

58:24

I got he's just trying to like make her

58:26

feel better but then the power

58:29

goes out I thought this was so funny

58:31

because like it's a really well shot scene

58:33

too like he comes into the room

58:35

and she is staring at her reflection in the

58:37

mirror which like they show that and it's like

58:39

you know when you're looking out she's looking

58:42

through a window but it does have her reflection yeah

58:44

yeah she's like looking at you know when

58:46

you're like looking out a window and it's

58:48

dark outside and you could sort of see

58:50

yourself but it's not fully like you can't

58:52

really see it it's just such a well-done

58:54

shot for like what the movie is talking

58:56

about it's so so well done and then

58:58

like he's just trying to be a supportive

59:00

husband he's like yeah I believe you but

59:02

like you're fine like this

59:04

is a long time ago like because

59:06

it does sounds maybe not crazy but

59:08

like she had an experience at six

59:11

that like she isn't remembering the

59:13

best yeah because of some trauma that

59:16

happened right and I feel like he's

59:18

trying to be sensitive to that situation

59:20

but also be realistic like we're not

59:22

gonna be attacked by mirrors of yourself

59:24

and then of course immediately that is

59:27

what happens yeah I'm like hell yeah

59:29

Jordan Peele no notes on this intro

59:31

it's great it's almost as good

59:33

as ROUS I don't think they just

59:36

tackled by what yes lights

59:38

go out Lupita Nyong'o immediately calls 911 she's

59:40

like I fucking around with this and

59:42

the kids are like hey there's a family in the driveway

59:44

so he goes out there he's like hey do you guys

59:46

need help is everything okay no response yeah I would

59:49

not have gone out I've been like yes me

59:51

either well he ended so he kind of like inches his

59:53

way back to the house he gets the bat and he comes

59:55

out and he says hey y'all want

59:57

to get crazy we can get

59:59

crazy And then he says

1:00:01

by the way the police are already on

1:00:04

their way Starts

1:00:08

up here. He's like if you want to get crazy We

1:00:11

could get crazy and then he's

1:00:13

like the police are already on

1:00:15

their So

1:00:20

much over that one sentence, it's so funny,

1:00:22

but I like his reading of the Batman

1:00:24

line Let's

1:00:26

get nuts. Yeah, anyway He

1:00:29

retreats back into the house because literally he's

1:00:31

like the police are on their way and

1:00:33

the family just scatters Terrifying one of the

1:00:35

scariest shots of this movie. Well, you hear

1:00:37

the mom. Yeah, you hear Lupita Nyong'o's

1:00:40

Mom character from the tethered underground. I don't know

1:00:42

what we're gonna call them, but

1:00:44

us mom is tethered Yeah, she

1:00:47

like makes a sound and the

1:00:49

kids scatter and then are like her and

1:00:51

the dad like walk towards the front door

1:00:53

It's crazy. She chatters like a cat.

1:00:55

It's great anyway, they go back into

1:00:58

the house they're trying to keep

1:01:00

the door closed and They

1:01:02

end up injuring Winston Duke's leg in

1:01:04

the process his tether does but

1:01:07

once they get the door closed Lupita Nyong'o

1:01:09

is like, oh my god the key and

1:01:11

he's like what key and she says the

1:01:13

hide-a-key now on a second and third watch

1:01:16

You know that she knows about the hide-a-key because it used to

1:01:18

be her house Like as a child

1:01:20

like that's the hide-a-key she would have had

1:01:23

Yeah, I do love when it comes back

1:01:25

and her husband goes hide-a-key. What kind of

1:01:27

white people shit is that so funny? That

1:01:30

hide-a-key is not even hidden. No,

1:01:32

it's not there on the side like

1:01:34

not even in the grass It is

1:01:36

a rock on a path. Yeah, like

1:01:38

not hidden. Well at all It's just

1:01:40

in the middle of the sidewalk leading

1:01:42

to the door and you're like, that's

1:01:45

not a hide-a-key. That's just dumb Also,

1:01:47

never have a hide-a-key. We we

1:01:49

have one we have one that seems insane to

1:01:51

me to have one Well, we have one because

1:01:53

we don't have automatic garage door openers from the

1:01:55

outside. Do you not have keys? We

1:01:58

do but if we got locked out No,

1:02:00

we don't want to break into our own

1:02:02

home So you just don't know your neighbors

1:02:04

like I have three neighbors that have keys

1:02:06

But also she's got a ton of rocks

1:02:08

like she could put a rock like there's

1:02:10

literally a million rocks. That's true. That's true

1:02:13

Okay. Okay, except that Jake

1:02:15

is the one who hid the hide a key and it

1:02:17

isn't a place where a rock would not be

1:02:19

And now granted it's in a place that's hard

1:02:22

to get to like I would need Jake to

1:02:24

get it But also I feel like anyone walking

1:02:26

around would be like the fuck is a rock

1:02:28

doing there I'd be like

1:02:30

that's clearly a hide a key So what you're

1:02:32

saying is this movie's right and it is some

1:02:34

white people shit It is some white

1:02:37

people shit It's I mean in this

1:02:39

case, it doesn't seem like they have

1:02:41

any very close neighbors But also no,

1:02:43

we we barely know our neighbors and

1:02:45

that is the norm. We don't really

1:02:47

hang out Okay, I have a related

1:02:50

story for this so and I need your

1:02:52

opinions, please. Okay, I'm excited So some people

1:02:54

finally moved in next door And so I

1:02:56

went over there and introduced myself and it's

1:02:59

a girl and her boyfriend boyfriend travels He's

1:03:01

a musician. I was like, oh, it's very

1:03:03

natural. And then she's like, well,

1:03:05

who is your wife? And I was like, this

1:03:08

is just me like I'm gonna die alone in

1:03:10

that house But

1:03:12

she was like, oh I thought with like

1:03:14

the way the front of your house looks like

1:03:23

I told my family that my brother got a group that he's

1:03:25

like your house is gay But was

1:03:27

it your gay brother or your

1:03:29

great brother? Yeah, of course it

1:03:32

was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:03:34

can't talk like that I

1:03:36

would take that to mean that from

1:03:38

the appearance of your house She

1:03:41

believed that there was someone there

1:03:43

who cares very much for it.

1:03:45

I know it look nice, which

1:03:48

Here's the thing Patriarchy stereotypically is

1:03:50

maybe a lady but it could

1:03:52

be it could be anybody

1:03:54

really but it means that your house looks taken care

1:03:56

of Which is good. So her

1:03:58

mom and death Her mom

1:04:00

and dad are there too and they're like yeah,

1:04:02

it looks like it's got a woman's touch or

1:04:05

whatever And I was like I picked out that

1:04:07

teak furniture myself Close

1:04:10

with my mother first off. Well,

1:04:13

I said many women have helped design

1:04:15

that house Like

1:04:18

every every woman in my life has touched

1:04:20

upon that style, of course now Mike and

1:04:22

I thank you all Did you say she

1:04:24

was single next door? No, no, she's got

1:04:26

a boyfriend, but he does travel a lot

1:04:28

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, he's I'm not

1:04:31

kidding. He does travel but like that's weird

1:04:33

You don't need her woman's touch on your house. You've got enough.

1:04:35

She cute Mikey. Um, I don't know I had

1:04:37

COVID I Didn't

1:04:39

have it. I wasn't contained. I went over there

1:04:42

to infect them and nothing else But I was like,

1:04:44

this is my land now It's like another she moved

1:04:46

in so I spit in some brownies for you. No,

1:04:48

uh, no, it's a couple. They're cool Though at least

1:04:50

that house has been empty for like two years. It

1:04:53

was nice to have some neighbors. Yeah Anyway, okay, so

1:04:55

that was a good thing But I like left that

1:04:57

interaction and I was like the Twinkle

1:04:59

lights. I was like I put I

1:05:12

should have been like she's dead. She died

1:05:14

of COVID We

1:05:16

have a go fund me. I scattered her ashes

1:05:18

in your backyard We

1:05:21

used to have a pool over there and I buried

1:05:23

her below it I hope you don't mind We

1:05:26

forgot to move Anyway,

1:05:29

they make their way into the house. They

1:05:32

break through windows She's got the hide-a-key and

1:05:34

they kind of assemble in the living room

1:05:36

and thus begins the end of the first

1:05:38

act Exposition dump to let us know

1:05:40

how the next act of the movie is gonna go

1:05:43

Which is where Lupita Nyong'o's tether

1:05:45

is basically just like yo

1:05:48

Your life went great. My life

1:05:51

has been ass. Look at my

1:05:53

fucked up family Now

1:05:55

we gonna kill you and we're gonna live

1:05:57

in this house because we deserve it And

1:06:00

also she says some very

1:06:03

bonkers shit. Yeah, that like doesn't make sense at

1:06:05

all You want the government tethering clones or whatever?

1:06:07

Yeah. Yeah all that. Yeah Yeah, I thought I've

1:06:09

been creepier just to have people who look like

1:06:11

you coming up me like I'm gonna murder you

1:06:13

and still your Life. Yeah, it would

1:06:16

be freaky. Yeah freaky Friday type

1:06:18

shit. Would you have sex with your clone?

1:06:20

I'm sorry, Mikey. I feel like we've talked

1:06:22

about this. We've actually already had this conversation

1:06:24

and no We had the

1:06:26

conversation Would you have sex with

1:06:29

a sex doll of yourself or a sex

1:06:31

doll of your significant other after they had

1:06:33

passed? But also no, I

1:06:35

would not fuck my own clone Michael

1:06:37

if you fucked your own tethered clone would there

1:06:39

be like a reverb effect of pleasure? It

1:06:42

would be like a feedback loop Okay,

1:06:48

so in the weird wolf book I

1:06:50

read they like lock together as part

1:06:52

of it I can't laugh. I don't

1:06:54

hurt so bad like their genitalia locks

1:06:57

together. Yeah, there's like a part of

1:06:59

his genitalia that like expands What are

1:07:01

they fucking ducks? No, they're fucking wolves.

1:07:03

Duh You read

1:07:05

some weird smut page I

1:07:08

didn't know it's gonna be that weird but then I was too

1:07:10

far into it and I had to finish it Hold on.

1:07:12

Let me get out my master clock cock

1:07:15

You're what not lock master lock. It's

1:07:17

a lock. It's a cock My

1:07:22

I'm loving coven fog Mikey. I'm a

1:07:24

Beyonce be it's great cut to a

1:07:26

year later when Paige is reading this

1:07:29

like book about a Wolf who's like

1:07:31

going to undergraduate school for journalism and

1:07:33

she has to go interview this really

1:07:35

like rich billionaire wolf who was like

1:07:38

Orphan and was raised by like this

1:07:41

like abusive older lady. I think you

1:07:43

mean stray 50 shades of

1:07:45

straight the great wolf Exactly

1:07:49

like but also Liam Neeson with those

1:07:51

tiny broken bottles tied to his hand

1:07:53

at the end of the gray Holy shit,

1:07:55

that movie has a baller ass ending. I

1:07:57

mean he dies literally seconds after the movie

1:08:00

But awesome ass ending but his tether

1:08:02

was underneath Alaska fighting fake wolves the

1:08:04

whole time. He was fighting Corgis

1:08:07

so it's just him like getting actually murdered

1:08:10

by corgis That's it Like if they fly

1:08:12

across country do they sprint from like a

1:08:14

one tunnel to the other all the way

1:08:16

across the country? They have

1:08:18

to Mikey because they have to be

1:08:20

connected to where their Ted none of

1:08:22

it makes sense It is

1:08:25

literally like you can't think about it too much

1:08:27

because it doesn't make sense What do you

1:08:29

think the funniest thing they could be pantomiming is

1:08:31

sex? Obviously, yeah, no,

1:08:33

that's that's hot to a degree I

1:08:35

mean, what's the weirdest action you could

1:08:37

do regular that watching someone do fake

1:08:40

is odd picking my nose wait

1:08:42

Okay guys recording a podcast. Oh

1:08:45

That's just sad. Yeah helicoptering my

1:08:48

penis There's

1:08:51

a lot of listeners who would pay

1:08:53

a lot of money at a certain

1:08:55

patreon level to see that Mikey That's

1:08:58

not gonna go that would be under

1:09:00

my own personal brand not splitting those

1:09:02

funds with you Feel

1:09:04

like that's that's something where I deserve

1:09:06

a hundred percent. Yeah, I honestly you

1:09:08

do like I Would

1:09:12

be fine with that. Please as

1:09:14

your dick's hype man. I would like to

1:09:16

request a salary. Yeah You're

1:09:18

like our revenues got up 30% I was like

1:09:20

I share nudes now on patreon This is

1:09:23

me helicoptering my dick Mikey. Just put it

1:09:25

on your only fins only fit. Yeah That's

1:09:28

how big it is page a whale. I don't

1:09:30

understand like a dorsal fin. What is your dick

1:09:32

look like? Folded

1:09:35

over right now because I'm in captivity But

1:09:41

at least your captivity cage looks like it has

1:09:44

a woman's touch anyway So

1:09:47

this is also where we find out that other tethers

1:09:49

can't speak that Lupita Nyong'o is the only one who

1:09:51

can speak or can they? Sometimes well,

1:09:53

they make sounds none of them speak. Yeah,

1:09:56

but it makes sense as to why

1:09:58

Lupita Nyong'o's tethered can because she

1:10:00

was born in the human world. Although... Don't

1:10:02

think about it. I mean, I said that.

1:10:05

Yeah, like I can't say, it just like,

1:10:07

that also doesn't make, whatever, whatever, whatever. What

1:10:09

do you mean it doesn't make sense? That part makes sense to me.

1:10:11

Because she only speaks inwards. She's

1:10:13

like, hello, my name is Michael.

1:10:16

Well, but who would she talk to? Because

1:10:18

can they even comprehend language, right? So

1:10:21

if you just didn't talk... Well,

1:10:23

she organized six billion of them.

1:10:25

Yeah. But here's the thing, it's

1:10:27

like, do they understand speech? They definitely don't speak

1:10:29

back to her. And she makes

1:10:31

noises and does signs to

1:10:34

communicate with them. Not, like,

1:10:36

not speaking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I

1:10:38

mean, it does not make sense that

1:10:40

they can do everything they can do.

1:10:43

Cause they do communicate. Sure. Like,

1:10:45

they have a language, whether it be

1:10:47

like a spoken language or just more

1:10:49

of a like body language language, they

1:10:51

do communicate. Yeah. So like,

1:10:54

they definitely could have learned over

1:10:56

the 30 years she was there. They

1:10:58

could have, but what I'm getting at is,

1:11:00

there's a strong likelihood that she has not

1:11:02

spoken in that way for the

1:11:05

intervening years. Oh, I think that's why she

1:11:07

struggles too at the very beginning. And that's why

1:11:09

she struggles too. 100%, yeah. Cause their

1:11:11

language is either just all like body

1:11:14

language or they have some clicks and

1:11:16

stuff in it. Yeah, which like is

1:11:18

a thing. But this is where she basically

1:11:20

introduces like, all of our different family members

1:11:23

are gonna kill their tether. So good luck,

1:11:25

chain yourself to the table and

1:11:27

husband gets dragged out to the

1:11:29

dock. Which now this is

1:11:31

the one thing that on a now

1:11:34

multiple rewatch bugged me a little bit.

1:11:36

There's multiple times in which people drag

1:11:38

people places and don't just immediately kill

1:11:40

them. And I'm like, you're not gonna

1:11:42

interrogate him. The tethers are

1:11:45

not. They're not great with follow through. Yeah.

1:11:48

They're not sending their best people is what Mikey's trying

1:11:50

to get at. All right? They're

1:11:54

just here for unskilled labor, baby.

1:11:57

No, they're

1:11:59

very skilled. That's why they got the scissors. That's a skill.

1:12:01

Well, I think the scissors is part of it. Well, it's

1:12:03

cutting the... It's symbolic. You could also

1:12:05

argue that manufacturing and scissors, and that's

1:12:08

a remedy. Yeah. Yes. I mean,

1:12:10

I definitely think it is for the cutting of

1:12:12

the tethers and two-page. Sure, sure,

1:12:14

sure. But that's also probably why

1:12:16

they're in jumpsuits. Like... Yes. They're

1:12:18

in jumpsuits. They have manufacturing tools

1:12:20

as their weapons. Because, yes, the

1:12:22

working class versus the more comfortable

1:12:24

class above them. Anyway. Yeah. These

1:12:26

were Jason and scarier Jason end

1:12:29

up in the closet. And this

1:12:31

is the first time we see

1:12:33

them mirroring, which again, you don't

1:12:36

think too hard about it. And then... Yeah, because

1:12:38

occasionally Jason can control his tether.

1:12:40

And sometimes he can't. And it's

1:12:42

never explained, so just get on

1:12:44

board. That's gonna happen. I think

1:12:46

the best explanation is that kids can

1:12:49

see ghosts kind of thing. Anyway, so

1:12:51

Zora tries to outrun her tether. I

1:12:53

love that your explanation for it is

1:12:55

just low-key kids be spooky sometimes.

1:12:57

Kids be spooky sometimes! And listen,

1:12:59

you're not wrong. Yeah, hey. In

1:13:02

the Facebook group, I wanna start a thread of

1:13:04

the spookiest stories you have about your children. I

1:13:06

know they say fucked up shit. Tell me that

1:13:09

spooky shit. Aww, there's nothing worse

1:13:11

than like... I mean like in a

1:13:13

horror movie. Uh-huh. Than like when a

1:13:15

kid says something spooky. Like a, they're

1:13:17

here. Like that type of thing is

1:13:19

very scary to me. I love

1:13:22

reading the red threads of people where it's like one

1:13:24

time my three-year-old looked at me and said, When I

1:13:26

was dead, I talked to grandma every day. And they're

1:13:28

like, Your grandmother died before you were born. And then

1:13:30

the kid just never says anything else about it. And

1:13:32

you're just like, What the fuck? What

1:13:35

the fuck? That's why I don't need them in my fucking

1:13:37

house. Man, you must hated your grandma.

1:13:39

I love my grandma. She was alive when

1:13:41

I was alive. So like we talked when I was alive. Like

1:13:44

normal people. Not like ghost

1:13:46

children. Anyway, this is the part of

1:13:48

the movie that I think struggles the

1:13:50

most with pacing. Because we're cutting

1:13:53

back and forth. From all

1:13:55

the different family members fighting their

1:13:57

different tethers. And the cuts aren't...

1:14:00

long enough to move things forward,

1:14:03

they're short. I think in theory to try

1:14:05

and make it feel like it's going faster,

1:14:08

but it just means that we're like cutting back and forth,

1:14:10

cutting back and forth, cutting back and forth, cutting back and

1:14:12

forth, and it kind of makes it drag a bit. And

1:14:14

it's all like happening within the same time period, right?

1:14:16

Because like the dad gets dragged out

1:14:18

by evil dad, the daughter runs because

1:14:21

the other one's a track star, I

1:14:23

guess, and wants to chase her, and

1:14:25

then the son goes into the closet

1:14:27

with his scary counterpart, and then we

1:14:29

then cut back and forth between all

1:14:31

of that, right? The daughter's a

1:14:33

track athlete, so the implication being her tether

1:14:36

can also run fast. Oh no, I

1:14:38

understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I get it.

1:14:40

But like that's what's happening, and we're like

1:14:43

seeing all of those things that are probably

1:14:45

actually happening at the same time. We're

1:14:47

seeing played out, so it just feels like it

1:14:50

takes forever, even though like that 15

1:14:52

minutes probably takes place over 4 minutes,

1:14:55

you know? Right, because essentially what happens is

1:14:57

like dad ends up out in the boat

1:14:59

and ends up putting his tether through the

1:15:01

propeller. Man. Great. But that whole scene is

1:15:03

wild. Like if we just stick with his for a

1:15:05

second, they get out to the boat, he's like in

1:15:08

a trash bag, and then like the engine dies, which

1:15:10

we saw it do before, and then there's like he

1:15:12

comes out of the trash bag and like hits the

1:15:14

guy. Anyway, they fall out of the water, and the

1:15:17

tether's getting dragged around by the boat. Yes.

1:15:19

That makes a big circle and comes back

1:15:21

and then dies. Yeah, because it itlets run

1:15:23

left. Yeah, and then

1:15:26

dies, like the engine stops right

1:15:28

in front of good dad, right?

1:15:30

Right. So he swims over to

1:15:32

the boat and like gets back in and

1:15:34

is breathing heavy because he's been swimming a long time,

1:15:37

and then that's when the tether dad comes up and

1:15:39

like tries to kill him, and he, I love the

1:15:41

way the dad kills him though, because

1:15:43

he smacks his own head onto the

1:15:45

engine, thereby restarting it, and then evil

1:15:47

dad gets sucked into the propeller. Yep.

1:15:49

It's really well done, it's cool, but

1:15:51

like it does take 15 minutes.

1:15:54

Right, well and then on top of that we've got

1:15:57

the two Jasons where he tricks him and gets him

1:15:59

stuck in the closet. Which means that evil

1:16:01

Lupita Nyong'o has to like come get him

1:16:03

out. And that allows time for good Lupita

1:16:05

Nyong'o to break out of the bind. She's

1:16:08

still wearing the cuff, but she's

1:16:10

no longer cuffed to the coffee

1:16:12

table. Right. And she grabs Jason,

1:16:15

they run down to the dock. Zora meets

1:16:17

them down there, because we do see Zora's

1:16:19

tether running around too, but they all end

1:16:21

up in the boat and use that boat

1:16:23

to get across to their neighbor's

1:16:25

house, Josh and whoever. Tim Heidecker and

1:16:28

Elizabeth Moss. Yeah. We cut to their

1:16:30

house, where they're like, it's

1:16:32

vodka o'clock, and who should show

1:16:35

up but the tethers? And

1:16:37

they literally just like, without

1:16:40

warning, almost everyone is insta dead. The

1:16:42

twins are dead. Tim Heidecker's down almost

1:16:44

immediately. And they have an Alexa that

1:16:46

they call Ophelia or whatever. But this

1:16:49

is one of those classic scenes from

1:16:51

this movie of Elizabeth Moss bleeding out

1:16:53

on the ground going, Ophelia,

1:16:55

call the police, playing fuck

1:16:58

the police. It's great. It does

1:17:00

a great job of breaking the tension

1:17:02

too. It really does. Because it's pretty

1:17:04

fucking tense, man. Like, this whole thing

1:17:06

is pretty scary. Because Elizabeth Moss is

1:17:08

upstairs yelling at her husband to go

1:17:10

check outside because she heard something. Right.

1:17:12

And so they argue for the next

1:17:15

three minutes. And then just during the

1:17:17

argument, their daughters come in, and then

1:17:19

the jumpsuit versions of them come in

1:17:21

and just stab them immediately. Yep. Super

1:17:23

like, eerie. I hated it so

1:17:25

much. Insta dead. And now that

1:17:27

they're all dead, the tethers start making

1:17:29

themselves at home. But this is where

1:17:31

we start to see like the horror

1:17:33

of the facelift of like, her

1:17:35

sitting and smiling into the mirror

1:17:37

and looking at like the scars

1:17:40

from the facelift. Freaky. Yeah. But

1:17:42

who should show up at the

1:17:44

door? Lupita Nyong'o and her

1:17:46

family. And she does immediately get

1:17:48

Tim Heidecker with a fireplace poker, which slows

1:17:50

him down a little bit. But then they

1:17:52

drag her into the house to

1:17:55

kill her, which they don't do immediately, which again,

1:17:57

I'm not sure why. But... But that happens a lot

1:17:59

to our main... Characters in this movie

1:18:01

like the tethers take a long time

1:18:03

to kill them when they could easily

1:18:05

off them Yeah But the kids take

1:18:07

off they double back and end up back

1:18:09

in the house where they grab weapons both

1:18:12

a sculpture and That

1:18:14

fireplace put or a golf club. It's

1:18:16

a quartz crystal. Oh, okay It

1:18:18

is a quartz crystal and a putter and

1:18:20

a putter. There you go Yeah, Jason has

1:18:23

the quartz crystal the quartz crystal has

1:18:25

like it's on like a stand though. Yeah, it

1:18:27

is on a stand Yeah, anyway,

1:18:29

so they get upstairs and

1:18:31

the twins cartwheeling through they

1:18:34

hit one of them She goes over the

1:18:36

banister into the coffee table below They

1:18:38

and then Zora beats the other one

1:18:40

to death with that putter You see

1:18:43

the blood like flying up all of

1:18:45

it as she's hitting it It's nuts

1:18:47

and they arrived just in time

1:18:49

to hit Elizabeth Moss with that

1:18:52

quartz crystal and to save their

1:18:54

mom Basically who has then

1:18:56

been tethered to the bed. Yeah because

1:18:58

the mom Lupita Nyong'o's character good Her

1:19:00

is like tethered like handcuffs really to

1:19:03

the bed, right? Mm-hmm And then the

1:19:05

bad Lupita Nyong'o comes in and like

1:19:07

almost kills the daughter right and she

1:19:10

can't really good Version of her can't

1:19:12

really help because she's like in a

1:19:14

weird awkward position because of a handcuff

1:19:17

Well, no, it's not bad Lupita Nyong'o. It's bad

1:19:19

Elizabeth Moss. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's

1:19:21

right. Sorry Yeah, it is but the the Sun

1:19:23

comes in and hits Elizabeth Moss in the head

1:19:25

with his quartz crystal on a stand and

1:19:28

that Knocks her out or kills her or

1:19:30

something but like it saves everybody it knocks

1:19:32

her out Her name is Elizabeth less. Well

1:19:35

now because she's you know from the underworld

1:19:37

or a missing part of her head Yeah,

1:19:40

that's why so we cut to they

1:19:42

are all now back at the house Meanwhile

1:19:44

Winston Duke on the dock got Tim

1:19:47

Heidecker bad Tim Heidecker with the flare

1:19:49

gun They end up back in the

1:19:51

house and they watch on the news where the news is

1:19:53

like Yeah It turns out a bunch of people that looks

1:19:55

like us are like killing us and then they're just standing

1:19:57

in this crazy line Yeah in real life Like

1:20:00

those people would be shot. Yep. Oh,

1:20:03

yeah. Yeah. Yeah the fact that they're still standing there

1:20:05

by the next day is wild Because

1:20:07

they would have either tried to arrest them

1:20:09

or shot them in the interim

1:20:11

a hundred percent I mean the reason this

1:20:14

wouldn't work is the reason like

1:20:16

class warfare exists No, no, I know

1:20:18

like that that's all that the more you dig into

1:20:20

it because the police are used

1:20:22

to keep the lower Classes down

1:20:25

like that is yes one of

1:20:27

their functions Well, and that's

1:20:29

why even when you talk about this movie

1:20:31

when you're like this doesn't work, but metaphorically

1:20:33

it just got stronger Anyway

1:20:36

at this point Lupita Nyongos like I think I know

1:20:38

what's going on, but I can't tell them and We

1:20:42

need to leave we need to leave we shouldn't

1:20:44

be here and they're like What if we do

1:20:46

home alone traps and she's like get the fuck

1:20:48

in the car? Yeah, she like

1:20:50

yells at her husband She's like you don't get to

1:20:52

make the decision anymore. Like I clearly knew this is

1:20:55

gonna happen Right talk to you about it before the

1:20:57

power but not please remember. I know what's

1:20:59

going on You're gonna come with me, but like it's

1:21:01

very Really what's going

1:21:03

on? I was gonna say it's very clear

1:21:05

that she knows but she is not

1:21:07

sharing it when I was six I kidnapped myself

1:21:10

basically Yeah, do you think she knows that

1:21:12

at this point or do you think she has forgotten

1:21:14

that memory because of trauma? No, no,

1:21:16

I think she knows and and I think that's

1:21:18

why she hasn't been to the beach and whatever

1:21:20

I think she's always worried about the day that

1:21:23

other Lupita Nyongos was going to try and take

1:21:25

her place back Yeah, yeah, which is why

1:21:27

you always take them out double tap back of

1:21:29

the head to in his computer Yeah, if you

1:21:31

find your doppelganger out there, it's you or them.

1:21:33

That's a doppelganger. You got to take it out

1:21:37

Like identical twins just like taking each other

1:21:39

out and they're like judge. I mean we're

1:21:41

identical like yeah, it's allowed There can only

1:21:44

be one in high land

1:21:46

of East and from 1986

1:21:49

twins is different than doppelgangers doppelgangers are an evil

1:21:52

version of you that comes in your life at

1:21:54

some point tries to murder you Oh, and

1:21:56

you can tell they're evil cuz they've got the goatee

1:21:59

There were There was a time in my life

1:22:01

I had a goatee which is like surprising

1:22:03

at all. Yeah in my life You've seen

1:22:06

pictures of it Mikey every time we do

1:22:08

a live show you think Todd's the doppelganger

1:22:10

because it checks out Man,

1:22:12

I bet his twin was so cool Well,

1:22:18

let's go spot like a version of Todd who

1:22:20

doesn't say shit like my favorite opera I Okay,

1:22:23

I also enjoy some operas. I'm going

1:22:25

to see opera in March really Mikey.

1:22:28

You're the uncultured one anyway So it's

1:22:30

not opera really it's like classical music But

1:22:32

I do fuck with some opera but like

1:22:34

her mean it's around us that slaps man

1:22:36

That's a great-ass song and that's technically an

1:22:38

opera. I think the operas like five hours

1:22:40

long You gotta sit through to get that

1:22:42

song. Yeah, no, I know But I just

1:22:44

fuck with that one song Oh for tuna

1:22:46

is the name of that song everyone

1:22:48

like to offer tuna That's the one song everyone knows I

1:22:51

know but that's technically an opera. That's my

1:22:53

point. Yeah, anyway They don't have the keys for

1:22:55

the car so they had to go back and get the

1:22:57

keys and all of a sudden Lupini goes in to get

1:22:59

the keys and Suddenly, there's not

1:23:01

a body on the coffee table twin Number two

1:23:03

is up and running and she ends up

1:23:05

having to stab her to death on

1:23:08

the floor of the kitchen and the

1:23:10

Sun sees It yeah, and it's brutal

1:23:12

and traumatizing even though she had

1:23:14

to it is fully Like

1:23:16

yeah, she was gonna kill her So

1:23:18

like she had to kill that child

1:23:20

who I want to point out was

1:23:22

cartwheeling around earlier and Mikey There's someone

1:23:24

in the patreonical that's been doing that

1:23:26

a lot recently and I can't believe

1:23:28

you foreshadowed this in your patreonical

1:23:30

I don't know fuck about what's going on that

1:23:36

His brain is much from Covid he

1:23:38

don't know shit welcome back Mikey Welcome

1:23:41

back. We're almost done with this movie. So yeah

1:23:43

anyway, so the kid sees it But they all

1:23:45

get in the car and they debate about who

1:23:47

gets to drive based on the highest kill count

1:23:49

Which I do love is a funny moment

1:23:51

It is a funny moment But eventually they just

1:23:53

let the daughter drive because like she won't get

1:23:55

out of the front seat and there's someone who's

1:23:58

like standing there It's revealed to be the

1:24:00

Dottle's Dopper Ganger, the Daughter Ganger.

1:24:02

The Daughter Ganger? Yeah. And

1:24:04

I do love, cause she goes to like, hold onto your

1:24:06

butts, and I'm just gonna

1:24:08

hit her. But the Daughter Ganger

1:24:10

jumps up and scrabbles over the top

1:24:13

of the car like a cat. Which is like,

1:24:15

pretty scary. Like that scared me a little bit.

1:24:17

And then when he pulls the sunroof open, it

1:24:19

was like tense building to that. And then she's

1:24:21

not there and you're like, oh thank God. And

1:24:23

then the scissors come through the sunroof and you're

1:24:25

like, oh my God, that was one of the

1:24:28

jump scares that got me again today. Well

1:24:31

and then she ends up on the windshield, trying

1:24:33

to stab at the windshield. And they do eventually,

1:24:35

she like drives and then breaks to like throw

1:24:37

her off the windshield into the trees. She

1:24:39

like flies into the forest. And then

1:24:41

Lupita Nyong'o is like, I'm gonna go

1:24:43

make sure she's dead. Which I think

1:24:45

is a terrible idea. Now you gotta

1:24:47

do it. But I understand, I understand.

1:24:50

Yeah, well because if she doesn't, she can still

1:24:52

come after it. And like I- And I do

1:24:54

believe it is sort of like it

1:24:56

follows. Like she will always be coming

1:24:58

for you unless she's dead. Because for

1:25:01

some reason that's how tethers work. Yep.

1:25:03

Yeah. Now I do think it's

1:25:06

really interesting that when Lupita does get out to

1:25:08

check and finds her in that tree dying, like

1:25:10

definitely dying. Yeah. And she just goes, shh,

1:25:12

shh. Yeah. Almost as

1:25:14

if like it's her own daughter.

1:25:16

Because in a weird roundabout way, it's one

1:25:19

of those things where it's like the daughter

1:25:21

that could have been, had she stayed in

1:25:23

her place. I mean they are genetically

1:25:25

her daughter, right? Yeah,

1:25:27

yeah, weirdly. Yeah,

1:25:30

because her clone had this exact

1:25:32

child with the exact same person

1:25:34

she had a child. Like not a- Don't think

1:25:36

too hard about it, Ty. It literally doesn't make

1:25:38

sense. But yes. It's

1:25:41

a very interesting humanizing moment, I

1:25:43

think. Yes. Yeah, and I understand

1:25:45

why there would be a little bit of that. Yep, she

1:25:47

goes back to the car. In the

1:25:49

backseat, the little brother finally gets his

1:25:51

little trick sparker thing to work. And

1:25:53

they fist bump. They drive down

1:25:55

to the beach through the neighborhood. And

1:25:57

this neighborhood is desolate. Like every- family

1:26:00

on this street is dead, basically. Well,

1:26:02

and their car is on fire in

1:26:04

front of them. Yeah, their personal

1:26:07

car. And this

1:26:09

is where they see Jason's tether. And

1:26:11

this is where he does the weird

1:26:13

mirroring thing where the tether does

1:26:16

what he... Now I do think it's interesting

1:26:18

that Lupiti Nyong'o is almost just like, no

1:26:21

don't, almost as if she's like, don't kill

1:26:23

him, but we need to kill him and

1:26:25

is conflicted in this scene, it seems. There's

1:26:28

not a great explanation for why. I

1:26:30

mean, there's not a good explanation as

1:26:32

to why the child is required

1:26:34

to do what Jason... None of this makes

1:26:36

sense. They have displayed that they can have

1:26:38

their own free will. All of

1:26:40

them can. All of the tethers can. They

1:26:43

can. We see all of them

1:26:45

experience their own free will. And then in this

1:26:47

moment, the bad Jason

1:26:49

just walks backward into

1:26:51

fire for no reason. Like literally no

1:26:53

reason takes himself out of the equation.

1:26:56

Just because it looks cool. Sure.

1:26:59

And it does sort of look cool, I

1:27:01

suppose, but like, doesn't make sense unless

1:27:03

you think about just the metaphor and then it

1:27:06

makes total sense. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

1:27:08

Like this whole movie. So Jason, after

1:27:10

doing this, disappears. And Lupiti Nyong'o's like,

1:27:12

you two stay here. I know exactly

1:27:14

where he went. And this is where...

1:27:17

Well, I think you need to understand that

1:27:19

he's wearing a Wookiee mask, which represents

1:27:21

the sequel trilogy of Star Wars, which was

1:27:23

a fire. So as he

1:27:26

backs away with the Wookiee mask,

1:27:28

any reasonable adult would also throw

1:27:30

themselves in fire and be reminded

1:27:32

of the sequel trilogy. Mikey,

1:27:34

is this just because somebody came after you in

1:27:36

the comments for not liking the sequel trilogy? No,

1:27:38

no. I don't even know which movies we're

1:27:41

talking about it before. We're talking about Force Awakens, Last Jedi

1:27:43

and Rise of the... I like Force Awakens. I don't like

1:27:45

the other two. Force Awakens is good, but Rise

1:27:47

of Skywalker is the

1:27:49

most... I honestly refuse to believe

1:27:51

that anything that takes place after

1:27:53

Rogue One is canon. But that's

1:27:56

the original trilogy, dude. I'm fine with that.

1:27:58

You're fine with the original trilogy. trilogy being gone.

1:28:01

I love the first three movies that came out,

1:28:03

but like... Yeah, Rogue One is before

1:28:05

them. The Rogue Run's before...yeah. I know,

1:28:07

but like Rogue One is by far the

1:28:10

best one. Rogue One is the best Star

1:28:12

Wars movie since Empire Strikes Back. That's also

1:28:14

an opinion, yeah. Anyway, we can't, we

1:28:16

can't, we don't have time. Arguing about the

1:28:18

good movies is just proper Star Wars etiquette.

1:28:21

That's why we don't even mention the other things, which

1:28:23

made that boy throw himself into a fire. Also,

1:28:26

that boy keep feared all the

1:28:29

way to this boardwalk from their house

1:28:31

under their car. You guys realize that,

1:28:33

right? No, no, no. I think he drove

1:28:35

their car and then lit it on fire. The seat goes to

1:28:37

him in their car and then lit it on fire.

1:28:40

Yeah. No, the scene shows you that's not

1:28:42

the case. Oh, well, because she backs up

1:28:44

and he was under... Because they drive up, they see

1:28:46

their car on fire, they hear him under

1:28:48

their car because he was holding on to the

1:28:50

bottom of their car, and then he'd keep that

1:28:52

in the way. And then they'd get to the

1:28:54

bottom when they stopped in front of their car.

1:28:57

That was my... Yeah, that was my interpretation

1:28:59

too, but Todd, I will

1:29:01

admit that your version is both

1:29:03

possible and terrifying. Thank you! Yeah,

1:29:07

that would be fucking... So,

1:29:09

Lupita Nyong'o goes to the Hall of Mirrors because she's like,

1:29:11

if somebody's taking my kid, they definitely took him there. So

1:29:14

she goes there. Now,

1:29:16

the shot of her walking into

1:29:18

the Hall of Mirrors is completely

1:29:20

dark with a square framing of

1:29:22

her walking in. And instantly,

1:29:25

because I've watched NOPE recently, there

1:29:27

is an almost identical shot in

1:29:29

both Get Out and this

1:29:32

and NOPE. Like, visually

1:29:34

linking the three. I was like, oh, yes,

1:29:36

this is why. This is why everyone is

1:29:38

excited when he makes a movie. Anyway. I

1:29:40

mean, he is good. So,

1:29:43

she goes down like 40 million stairs.

1:29:45

And meanwhile, up top, Winston

1:29:47

Duke and Zora the Daughter find an ambulance. And

1:29:49

everyone else is dead, but they see the line

1:29:52

and they're like, weird. And he's like, maybe

1:29:54

it's performance art because he's still full on Dadcore,

1:29:56

and I love it. He also has

1:29:58

no real idea what's going on. And he

1:30:00

has to frighten children to try and like keep

1:30:02

calm. Not a clue. He's just trying to be dad of

1:30:05

the year And you know what he's fucking nailing it. He

1:30:07

is crushing it. He is crawdaddy of the year,

1:30:09

baby He's crawdaddy of the year Lupita

1:30:12

Nyong'o gets all the way down and

1:30:14

Tether Lupita Nyong'o gets her James Bond

1:30:16

villain speech And this is where we

1:30:18

find out about how Tethers work five

1:30:21

minutes before the end of the film We

1:30:23

also don't like I realize that

1:30:25

that is what the movie thinks

1:30:27

it's doing But it's not it

1:30:29

is just like saying Syngivorous that

1:30:31

someone who doesn't know what the

1:30:33

hell they're talking about is trying

1:30:35

to explain the incredibly weird premise

1:30:37

of the movie Right it

1:30:39

works for the metaphor not exactly in

1:30:41

reality anyway But this is how we

1:30:44

kind of understand the like one-to-one ratio

1:30:46

whatever they fight She stabs her and

1:30:48

then chokes her to death and then

1:30:50

laughs about it The whole

1:30:52

fight scene is very cool

1:30:55

though like the way it's photographed

1:30:57

the dancing part of it like

1:30:59

yeah, and it is very Artistically

1:31:02

like done. It's not like a normal

1:31:04

fight scene like right good Lupita Nyong'o

1:31:06

is like aggressively trying to fight her

1:31:08

and she is just gracefully like spinning

1:31:10

out of the way Yeah,

1:31:12

evil Lupita Nyong'o is it's so well done.

1:31:14

It's so cool or Tether I

1:31:17

don't know that I would call her evil. I mean you're

1:31:19

right outside of just being

1:31:21

the aggressor in this evening Yeah,

1:31:23

but like yep, but

1:31:25

it's still a really really cool

1:31:27

fight scene anyway She she kills her

1:31:30

she gets to the locker she gets her son

1:31:32

out But now her kid

1:31:34

I think knows the truth about her

1:31:36

and what has happened and what everything

1:31:38

was down there I think that

1:31:41

the kid is like speculating that

1:31:43

I don't think it's confirmed ever

1:31:45

for the child Right, I think

1:31:47

that that is what like during

1:31:49

the reveal I think that is

1:31:51

what we are to learn and

1:31:53

I think we are learning that through the eyes of

1:31:55

the child Sort of right like I don't know that

1:31:57

he ever really fully knows but I think it's him

1:31:59

questioning because we do get her thinking back,

1:32:02

revealing that she took the spot. And

1:32:06

that the person we have been following

1:32:08

the entire time is actually

1:32:10

the tether. And he just

1:32:12

lowers his mask as

1:32:14

they see the giant line of people.

1:32:17

And like helicopters and shit, yeah. And

1:32:19

helicopters and shit. And

1:32:21

that's the movie. So

1:32:24

they've seen the movie and they talked about the movie. What did

1:32:26

you guys think about us? It was pretty good.

1:32:29

I do really like it. It's even

1:32:31

being my third favorite, it's still better than like

1:32:34

60 to 70% of

1:32:36

the movies we do on this show. I

1:32:39

mean, I definitely think it's a good movie.

1:32:41

Yes. I love the

1:32:43

metaphor. I love the classism stuff because

1:32:45

I'm a sucker for that kind of

1:32:47

shit. But I do wish like it

1:32:49

made sense on any level, like on

1:32:51

any movie level. I think the metaphor

1:32:53

makes sense. Sure, sure, sure. On a

1:32:55

like metaphor level, like the classism stuff

1:32:58

makes sense. The movie doesn't. And that's

1:33:00

why it's my least favorite Jordan Peele movie.

1:33:02

But it is a great movie. We

1:33:04

didn't really talk about the classism metaphor much

1:33:06

while we went through it though. We did

1:33:08

in the beginning, yeah. But it's like really

1:33:10

in there. I had to kill my tether

1:33:13

to have my house. So it

1:33:15

was either him or me. But Mikey, you

1:33:17

said things like this in the past that

1:33:19

like this movie is playing on some level

1:33:21

when like we're talking about how terrible classism

1:33:23

is or whatever and you're like, yeah, but

1:33:25

you have a cell phone that was made

1:33:28

by an eight year old in China, which

1:33:30

is like true, you know? Yep. Yeah,

1:33:32

once you break it down, like everyone's awful. So like

1:33:34

you just have to like live your life

1:33:36

and try to help people when you can. I agree. I

1:33:39

feel like I'm very lucky to be where I am right

1:33:41

now. I don't feel like you should have to work as

1:33:43

hard as I've had to work to get here. So like,

1:33:45

I'm gonna try and elevate who I can while I'm here.

1:33:47

I'm gonna keep as many people down so I can stay

1:33:49

on top as I can. It's

1:33:52

true American. Yeah, there

1:33:54

are people out there like that for sure. I

1:33:56

don't think you're one of them. You are like in your

1:33:59

day job, the very opposite. it of that. So

1:34:01

like... Who would you suspect? I

1:34:04

know. I

1:34:06

like that like you're like evil

1:34:08

Batman sort of or

1:34:11

evil Robin Hood maybe. Take from the poor

1:34:14

and give to the rich. Like during the

1:34:16

day you masquerade as someone who's good that's

1:34:18

your day job but at night you rob

1:34:20

from the poor to give to the rich.

1:34:23

I'm a medieval themed stripper for the called

1:34:25

the Sheriff of Naughty Ham. That's

1:34:28

a tether I'd like to meet. No

1:34:31

I mean there's a lot of I mean there are

1:34:33

only finite goods in this world and there's eight billion

1:34:35

people. So I mean like that

1:34:38

is a competition for survival and

1:34:40

that sucks but that is a

1:34:42

reality and I can't

1:34:44

make sense of that. So you know who

1:34:46

didn't make sense of that? Star Trek. Once

1:34:49

they invented the replicator, shit

1:34:51

got real cool for everybody because like

1:34:53

scarcity wasn't a problem anymore. If we

1:34:55

can get to a post-scarcity world maybe

1:34:57

things will get better but I'll live

1:34:59

on the moon when that happens whatever

1:35:01

it's cool. I want to jump high.

1:35:03

I don't know how to seriously talk about this. I don't know

1:35:05

if I... And yeah you kept doing it. I'm gonna

1:35:08

go. It's like being you have ran for so

1:35:10

long. This movie metaphor works

1:35:12

in so many ways as we... It does. Because

1:35:14

it's like you can be ashamed of who you

1:35:16

were as a poor person when you have actually

1:35:18

made it without even giving empathy

1:35:20

to who you were before and like you

1:35:23

want to totally destroy that identity of when

1:35:25

you are where you are now than where

1:35:27

you are. And I think that I think

1:35:29

this metaphor works like that too. I mean

1:35:32

it's like a really interesting concept of that

1:35:34

sort of thing. Thank you Covid Mikey. I'm

1:35:37

gonna wrap that in the bow and I'll edit

1:35:39

it to make it sound good Mikey. I got

1:35:41

you. It's just because I was like I am

1:35:44

communist. I mean people suck

1:35:46

man. They're gonna kill each other over stuff. That's

1:35:48

just humanity at this point. It is. I

1:35:50

mean on a very like boiled down level that's

1:35:52

a lot of what the problem is is that

1:35:55

yeah the scarcity mindset. Well you know they

1:35:57

kill each other in communism too so I think it's

1:35:59

just the people. Yeah, no, I'm with

1:36:01

you. But I also think unfettered capitalism is

1:36:03

a huge problem and not good, but mostly

1:36:05

because of people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1:36:07

And I mean, honestly, the reason socialism

1:36:09

doesn't work, capitalism doesn't work, communism doesn't

1:36:12

work is because... People. People.

1:36:14

People be bad. Socialism would fucking

1:36:16

flap if it worked. Unfortunately, the

1:36:18

people who chase power are

1:36:21

not good people. Exactly. And that's why it

1:36:23

doesn't work. Until we nail that replicator technology.

1:36:25

But until then, Paige, can you give us