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312 - When Evil Lurks

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1:29

we'll be doing, I almost said, weird stuff with

1:31

goats daily, but we won't be doing that. But

1:34

like that part scared me. I

1:37

feel like this is the coolest sequel

1:39

to the Pope's Exorcist that we

1:41

could have gotten. Only

1:50

if we get Russell Crowe literally

1:53

Vespa-ing across The water

1:55

to Argentina. That.

2:02

He would be as a little

2:04

like Special Jet that their adventures

2:06

have a. Big for tuning

2:09

into Harvard and and page. A Mighty and

2:11

on your Harvard and Todd Which means

2:13

auto like scary movies where you guys

2:15

make me watch them and this week

2:18

you guys made me watch way or

2:20

not flaws or a year and we've

2:22

got the sell. All I I'm thinking

2:25

right now is a scene where some

2:27

terrorists tries to take over the Pope's

2:29

plane and that we get the Pope

2:32

fighting and kicking him off his flame.

2:34

Anyway, I'm sorry, I'm literally it's all

2:36

like Air Force One, but a Pope.

2:39

Get the hell. Off my play

2:41

at that. Ah yes, buddies were

2:43

in the fish had like the

2:45

zebra an. Essay

2:48

on our fish as it used. To

2:52

send. Their

2:55

love yeah like sardines and. Dude.

2:58

Off my boy, you know, Odd

3:00

said it's a new metal. Oh.

3:05

Ah alright I'm so sorry I'm others are

3:07

love lives words but like that was more

3:10

to one of the law applies the either

3:12

made it or didn't keep it. Apologies Buddha

3:14

Okay so was is the first time he

3:16

heard of you saw what evil lurks. Yes,

3:18

I weighed. It up and yeah been one

3:21

to watch. This has got a lot of good

3:23

but you'll love this movie. I would always do

3:25

it. Yeah people d and us a lot about

3:27

it. When it was for sale they said it

3:29

was scary saw I wanted to put we a

3:32

prisoner push for it and I will say. A.

3:34

Digit it's cool. Yeah it's not as scary

3:36

as I wanted to be, is more scary

3:38

for pay discuss of scares page more that

3:40

his. Movies scared me. I will rank

3:42

this fairly not not crazy high that

3:45

Deborah Logan but like higher on the

3:47

scary. Scale than a lot of stuff. I

3:49

think you might rate higher than me, although

3:51

it probably I've ever made Syria I feel

3:53

like a mix I miss. Some of the

3:55

cultural adding is really cool, like some of

3:58

the Argentine amiss. Like gotta. Such. Huge

4:00

reception. That's really cool. I.

4:02

Conceptualized it as like demonic Fallen

4:04

were like if you kill the

4:06

body it inhabits, the other bodies

4:08

are yeah, well, it is sort

4:10

of like that. although I haven't.

4:12

Seen. All have fallen but it is

4:14

sort of like what you just described yeah

4:17

which I'd dog a dog, the unpredictability of

4:19

it and like the feeling of unsafe cars

4:21

people just dropped dead all around these to

4:23

do or to sort of just all a

4:25

year old widow who it's gonna be nags.

4:27

What was usually results in their death

4:30

Or the deaths of the people around

4:32

them. Yeah, oh. Yes, absolutely away the

4:34

demon One or two. this do the kids

4:36

by like this, inhabiting the people around the

4:38

kids to murder the kids around them. Was.

4:41

Not for I did not see that

4:43

coming. Yeah or animals Yeah and ah

4:45

and like it was wildly put me

4:48

on edge. Okay, this is the first

4:50

time I thought obviously rights and on

4:52

I was so mad. For like the

4:54

first twenty minutes of this movie you

4:57

were in anger texting us I was

4:59

messaging you guys. I think I even

5:01

said something like does anyone start explaining

5:04

anything that's going on cause this is

5:06

infuriating but like. Something. Happens

5:08

like twenty minutes in the movie. And.

5:11

I was on board. The rest

5:13

of that hi dad was yeah

5:15

augurs Although I will say this,

5:17

I laughed at a lot of

5:19

moments that I think you're supposed

5:21

to be shown in scared at

5:23

at. I think the result is

5:25

I was so mad at the

5:27

main character for not. Telling.

5:29

People early on of the movie what was

5:31

going on there by telling the audience. What?

5:33

Was going on. I was like fucking annoyed

5:35

with the main character. I like. Listen, it's

5:38

not his fault Dude is a great actor.

5:40

I really enjoyed to him from the beginning

5:42

to the end. His brothers the younger brother

5:44

was like a little beverly younger brother because

5:47

I don't like yeah yeah it's kind. Of

5:49

caught caught in the middle of it. I thought

5:51

because I was so annoyed of the main

5:53

character I wasn't really scared as he died

5:55

or not like I did not care. So

5:57

like whatever you like them all with with

5:59

ten. I was like, oh, maybe he's gonna get it.

6:01

Cool. Whatever. So it wasn't as scary for me I

6:03

liked I liked I think I like the other brother

6:05

cuz he felt I felt like he was just trying

6:08

to Go along with the weirdness

6:10

that was happening. I think the main brother

6:12

I don't know if it's pride or hubris

6:14

or not critical thinking ability But he doesn't

6:16

listen to anyone throughout the whole film and

6:19

it's annoying But I wanted them to explain

6:21

more like because they like imply that

6:23

the church is dead and then they imply

6:25

that these fixers Maybe work for the government.

6:27

Oh, yeah, this is a post religious world

6:30

Well, it's a completely like they do world build

6:32

and it's a completely different society than what we

6:34

live in But you don't find that out

6:37

until like 20 minutes and like how does

6:39

a church not exist if evil now is

6:41

just everywhere And people know it and that's

6:43

wildly cool concept and then like yeah, what's

6:45

the what is this telescope do? I just

6:47

have to know what I know does I

6:50

have to know What they're doing

6:52

with the Archimedes dial in this movie

6:54

like was Indiana Jones the cleaner like

6:57

how did they get that? And

6:59

what does it do? It looks sort of like

7:01

a sextant. You know what I'm talking about

7:03

page like that Navigation thing

7:05

it does look like a sextant. Yes So

7:07

like I would have loved if this was

7:10

the first episode of a true detective style

7:12

show Oh, yeah We were gonna

7:14

get like fucking 10 episodes of

7:16

like this world cuz I was

7:18

like here for the weird Oh,

7:21

and I was also here for like

7:23

crazy shit Like when the thing that

7:25

happened that made me flip like a

7:27

switch to where I was like, this

7:29

is gonna be a wild ride Let's

7:31

fucking go was when the dog just

7:33

snatched up that girl's face and dragged

7:35

her down the street Yeah, I was

7:37

scared. I was like, oh my but I like

7:40

laughed. It was a mix of shock cuz

7:42

it's so yes It was it was one of these it was

7:44

one of these. Oh What?

7:46

Yes. Yeah, I think what

7:48

I said was oh my god In

7:51

my living room like when I say I laughed

7:53

multiple times in this movie it was always

7:55

that it was always like a oh My

7:58

god, she's pulling his brains

8:01

out through his head like that's the

8:03

dune popcorn bucket like what is happening

8:05

like it's it is like that level

8:07

of nuts and y'all y'all know I

8:09

like a film that kills all the

8:12

kids and animals I know I

8:14

texted Mikey last night after I finished

8:17

it and I was like Todd's gonna

8:19

barf during this movie but Mikey is

8:21

gonna have so many dead kids I'm

8:23

so sorry I'm sure you I'm sorry to bring it

8:25

up but I knew it was gonna be a

8:28

problem I'm not even joking like I

8:30

know thinking about especially that last one

8:32

thinking about that's the one that I

8:34

was like oh my god yeah yeah

8:36

gotta breathe in through my nose out through my mouth

8:39

but Mikey just like what you were saying about like

8:41

it's an Argentinian audience you know I'm saying and there's

8:43

a lot of I think baked-in culture

8:45

that I just don't have because I never

8:47

experienced so like it did feel like

8:49

the world was super inaccessible to me especially

8:52

early on and that's why I was like

8:54

really frustrated that no one was explaining what's

8:56

happening but I think Paige you did some

8:58

research on like that stuff right I did

9:00

can I add one thought before sure yeah

9:03

yeah because I feel like the budget constricted

9:05

their vision I feel like at one point

9:07

it was gonna be like the crazies where

9:09

like the possession had infected the whole town

9:12

I think they set that up yes they're

9:14

like the lights are up and we also had

9:16

to get out of town everyone's gonna go start

9:18

killing each other everyone's got to get out of

9:20

town that's interesting I read it differently so like

9:22

in my mind it was like a it's

9:25

like a like a cancer cluster that happens

9:27

in rural areas because like chemical companies that

9:29

make pesticides or whatever like dump into rivers

9:31

and like that is exactly what this is

9:33

based on like yeah there is a specific

9:39

problem in rural Argentina with

9:41

the chemical compound that is

9:43

basically Roundup okay so interestingly

9:45

enough yes my granddad did that

9:47

line of work worked

9:49

in a company called Seba Guy Gee for

9:51

his whole career and they literally have had

9:53

to pay out like three hundred million dollar

9:56

lawsuits and stuff I actually had a friend

9:58

who had just sent me an article about

10:00

one that happened in New Jersey, he

10:02

was like, is this your granddad? I

10:04

was like, yep. So that's why I

10:06

was thinking about that specifically. That's wild,

10:08

okay, cool. But yeah, so it feels

10:10

like that because it goes through the

10:13

families because it's usually rural areas that

10:15

it happens in. And then it really

10:17

hyper-focuses on the kids because their immune

10:19

systems can't handle the

10:21

cancer-causing stuff as much as

10:23

their parents can. Well, and

10:26

early in the movie, they're very worried about

10:28

it poisoning the land, which was kind of

10:30

weird until I read about the Roundup stuff.

10:32

Yeah, that's so wild. 100%

10:35

thought that was just like a

10:37

Homer-LaBaron ancestry, like, projection on this

10:39

movie. That's wild, okay. Sorry, anyway,

10:41

please continue. Yeah, I found an interview

10:43

with the director where he talked about that specifically. No

10:46

shit, okay. But also, yeah, no, because they say

10:48

the lights are out and one of the rules

10:50

is that you can't use electric lights around them.

10:52

So I took that to mean, because

10:55

we know that it hit

10:57

the town and it hit

10:59

a lot of people, because within what we

11:01

see, it looks like, even if you just

11:03

witnessed some of the evil, it clusters out.

11:06

So from him leaving town, I

11:08

imagined it spread immediately

11:11

and badly. And so later, when

11:13

she's like, the lights are out,

11:15

that to me meant like, everyone has tried

11:18

to go to ground to avoid this. Because,

11:20

yeah, no, go ahead, question? I

11:23

was gonna say, she says that they're following

11:25

the protocols. They're following the

11:27

protocols. Because everyone in town knows the

11:29

song, right? That we don't get until

11:32

50 minutes into this movie that explains

11:34

anything. But yeah. But when we got that

11:36

song, I suddenly, I'm a cryptid nerd.

11:38

And as a cryptid nerd, I was like,

11:40

oh my God, it's these things. And I

11:42

was like, that's why. So I will

11:45

go into most of it in fun facts, because

11:47

I think the movie, although it delays that

11:50

knowledge, when we do get it, I do

11:52

think it's pretty comprehensive in what it tells

11:54

us and what we need to know for

11:56

the story. The

11:59

things that we don't know. are like

12:01

essentially the like government agents tasked

12:03

with murdering demons and that's the

12:05

part that I'm like give me

12:07

a whole movie of it like

12:11

a whole like True Detective style like

12:13

yes like HBO series because like I

12:15

really love the two main brother characters

12:17

you know who are these cleaners yeah

12:20

who are the cleaners yeah it's very

12:22

much like it's Argentinian supernatural is how

12:24

I've been describing it and I've never

12:27

seen supernatural it's a blast this makes me

12:29

want to see the first four seasons are

12:31

very very good yes okay but it's

12:33

also a show that like you can drop

12:35

in on at any time and like you

12:38

don't need to know what's overarching going on

12:40

it's a good time regardless the creator

12:42

of the show Todd had like a four

12:44

or five year plan yeah okay and then

12:46

it ended up going for 11 seasons no

12:49

it's on season 15 or 16

12:51

now yes it was still on TV up

12:53

until recently a lady I used to work

12:55

with once described it as a milf

12:57

thirst show and so I decided to

12:59

never watch it oh no it's

13:02

amazing it's so much fun it's basically it's

13:04

similar to it's also why I like Ash

13:06

versus Evil Dead because I feel like Ash

13:08

versus Evil Dead is a slightly bloodier version

13:11

yeah I'm supernatural okay where it's

13:13

just monster of the week and they just

13:15

like kill a new guy every week it's

13:17

like a procedural yeah but in the later

13:19

seasons they're like also all of the different

13:21

gods have to have a quorum and we're

13:23

going to battle with hell and you're like

13:25

what the fuck there were some power creep

13:28

issues in the later seasons it seems

13:30

it was nuts it ended in 2020

13:33

on its 15th

13:36

season it's but it's

13:38

a wild show it's still in syndication

13:40

you can find supernatural in reruns

13:42

almost as often as you can find law

13:44

and order yeah because those are

13:46

22 episode seasons there's so many

13:49

episodes of that show it's I have

13:51

whenever I go to hotels which is too often

13:53

I do this too we've talked about this it's

13:55

things that I look for on hotel TV

13:57

because I know they're always there yeah And

14:00

it's either Law and Order or Supernatural. And

14:02

I'm like, this is fine for me. For

14:04

me, if I'm in my room, I am

14:06

watching Law and Order SVU or whatever Law

14:08

and Order is on. It's almost always SVU.

14:10

Yeah, or I'm FaceTiming Natalie. That's what I'm

14:12

doing if I'm in my hotel room. That's

14:15

it. Anyway, is there more lore page? Oh

14:17

yeah, no, there is. And we will

14:19

get to more of the lore in Fun Facts. But

14:22

what I do wanna touch on is, this

14:24

pulls from a couple different types of lore

14:27

from greater South America, but

14:29

also Argentina, specifically Argentina and

14:31

Uruguay have very similar lore

14:34

where things like a werewolf,

14:37

and not specifically werewolf, but like

14:39

werewolf and possession and a bunch

14:41

of other things are kind of

14:44

lumped together into these kind of

14:46

demon-possessed, cryptid folklore tales.

14:49

And one of the things that I

14:51

think is really interesting when you look

14:53

at like South American werewolves versus the

14:55

werewolf stories that we have in the

14:57

United States which are largely based on

14:59

Germanic folklore is that our werewolf stories

15:01

are much more similar to the

15:05

stories that we get from small villages in

15:07

Europe, but also combined with the stories of

15:09

the indigenous peoples of our country, where

15:12

those stories are largely based on cannibalism

15:14

and hunger. So it's the

15:16

story that reflects the terror of winter, the

15:19

fear of starvation, which were very real fears

15:21

for people at the time. However,

15:23

in South America, it's

15:26

much less a cannibalism story as much

15:28

as it is an infection story, where

15:30

it's more like you're trying to stop

15:32

the- I mean, it's like that in this movie

15:35

for sure. Yeah, you're trying to stop

15:37

the spread of the infection. So it's

15:39

almost more like a zombie, but

15:41

with demon possession. And that's what we

15:43

get in this movie. So you think

15:45

this is more like Southern Hemisphere werewolf? Is that

15:48

what you're saying? The reason

15:50

I bring up werewolf is that's one of

15:52

the cryptids and there are many

15:54

different names for them. I'll bring up some fun facts.

15:56

That function in the same way of like, there are

15:58

seven different rules. to do

16:00

this and then you're probably gonna die. You're

16:03

probably gonna need this. It is

16:05

a demon. It is a... they definitely say

16:07

that. Yeah and it's a very different vibe

16:09

from what we see. It's pusser

16:11

or what is it? You puss up? No,

16:13

they're rotten. Which I do think

16:16

is great terminology

16:19

like to just be like he's rotten. And

16:21

also the way that that guy looked like

16:23

that's why I was like oh this

16:25

is like pesticidey and like chemically and

16:28

like that stuff leaks out of his

16:30

face and shit. That's why I started

16:32

thinking about that. That's wild but like

16:34

that's... But that is very real

16:36

because it's not as regulated in Argentina

16:38

as it is in the United States.

16:40

In part because you know

16:42

who knows they have a different

16:44

ecosystem, different farming, a whole different

16:46

thing but it is becoming a

16:48

problem. And so the director actually

16:50

visited rural communities and noticed that

16:52

like so many people were sick

16:55

and he kind of folded that in to this

16:57

story. Wild. Okay. I do at some point really

16:59

want to do the movie he did before this.

17:01

Mikey and I talked about it earlier today. That

17:04

movie is called Terrified and it's a haunted

17:06

house movie. It looks scary. Yeah it looks

17:08

scary. Yeah it's all jump scares.

17:11

So okay I think that that would

17:13

get me way more than this movie did.

17:15

That's why I think like this movie I

17:17

think more focuses on the kind of scary

17:19

that gets you right. But

17:21

this still very much scared me. Please don't

17:24

take that that way. But like no for

17:26

sure. I do think that premise sounds way

17:28

scarier. Like jump scary haunted house. I'm out.

17:30

Yeah I think it looks great for probably

17:32

a smaller budget. I think he framed shots

17:35

really well too. I really like

17:37

how he's direct. I think this is

17:39

shot beautifully. Yeah it is shot really

17:41

really well and even at night

17:43

because there's a lot that goes on at night

17:46

and it's shot really well for night shoots which

17:48

we talk about on this show all the time.

17:50

It's hard to do. It is. I think for

17:52

me part of the reason this scares

17:55

me so much is

17:57

a big fear of mine is desperate people

17:59

doing desperate things, but

18:01

also the- The title of my autobiography.

18:04

I know. The

18:06

callous brutality of this movie really gets to

18:08

me. I've talked a lot about how gore

18:10

doesn't really bother me, which is why torture

18:12

porn doesn't really bother- I'm not as interested

18:15

in it because it's a lot of like,

18:17

oh look, we're gonna cut this thing, blood

18:19

gush. We're gonna chop this dude's foot

18:21

off with piano wire or whatever. What's

18:24

so much scarier to me is what

18:27

this movie does, which is everything is

18:29

going fine and then a woman is

18:31

bludgeoned to death with a hammer completely

18:34

emotionlessly. Holy fuck,

18:36

that's terrifying. Yeah, or when

18:38

his ex-wife gets run over

18:40

by her now husband- By her husband

18:42

and the little girl warned? Ooh,

18:44

but also when- So that dog bites

18:46

that little girl, grabs her in the paper- Oh,

18:49

I lost my mind. And the initial bite

18:51

is scary, yes? Right? So

18:53

what's so scarier to me and the part

18:56

that made me literally gasp and be like,

18:58

oh my god, oh my god, this is

19:00

one of the worst things I've ever seen

19:02

in a movie, is when the dog is

19:04

basically shaking her lifeless body- Under the table.

19:06

Under the table. Yeah. A

19:09

theme. Page. I'm chills just

19:11

thinking about it. That's literally when

19:13

I was like, fuck it, no, I love

19:15

this movie. There are no holes being barred

19:17

and I am here for this. It is

19:19

insane. The attitude in which this

19:22

movie does those things is

19:24

very much just like, evil is here,

19:26

evil is real, you cannot run from

19:28

it, and it does not care who

19:30

you are, it has no emotion about

19:33

it, it will just take you out,

19:35

much like Pestle. And also religion

19:37

doesn't exist, because that is like the

19:39

answer in possession movies. Yeah. Let's

19:42

talk about that, because that's such a fascinating piece.

19:44

So I love that that's not in the movie.

19:46

It's such an interesting choice. It's such

19:48

an interesting choice, and we don't know 100% about

19:50

why, right? We

19:53

know that our main character doesn't really believe in

19:55

it, and then when we meet our father amort

19:58

later- She's

20:01

like, no, I had a church and

20:03

we were con artists and then lo

20:05

and behold This was fucking real and

20:08

we had no idea how to fight

20:10

it and I guess if religion comforts

20:12

you great But we got to

20:14

go stab this thing with a fucking telescope and you're like,

20:16

what? We got a

20:19

fucking space with a sexton. Yeah, I don't know how

20:21

Essentially, they were going to kill it

20:24

with that. Did they like reflect the

20:26

moonlight through it because it did have

20:28

lenses She's like doing calculations. I was

20:30

like, I gotta see this thing work

20:32

at some point and I was like

20:34

cock teeth It is Archimedes dial from

20:36

Indiana Jones. It's like that vibe So

20:39

it has a spear in it that she

20:41

was going to launch and she said I

20:43

need to get him on the nape Which

20:45

I took you mean like his neck the

20:47

neck Yeah Which if you've seen him he

20:49

has like a big Shore on his neck

20:51

or it looks like that's the place where

20:53

it first started much like a tumor because

20:56

cancer Yeah, and so like I think she

20:58

needed to shoot him in the neck tumor

21:00

I think that's what it was supposed to

21:02

be and she also even even with all

21:04

that is like it might not work like

21:06

We thought we killed that one, but then

21:08

maybe this guy's coming for me Maybe it's the

21:10

same guy and he's come and you're just like

21:13

what the fuck is this woman's life? I

21:15

need a prequel Why

21:19

I definitely would take the prequel where she refers

21:21

to the person who teaches her how to be

21:23

a cleaner as The monk or

21:25

a monk. Yes, if that monk is

21:27

just like 1960s Russell

21:30

Crowe his father of morse like

21:32

this can be a shared universe

21:35

I want that badly, but I

21:38

would say overall I did feel

21:40

like the first 20 minutes was a little inaccessible

21:42

But again, I think that was because we are

21:45

not the audience right exactly It was meant for

21:47

an audience that understood some of these more subtle

21:49

themes and illusions that we had to then go

21:51

look up after Right, and I think this movie

21:53

even though those first 20 minutes. You're kind of

21:56

like what the fuck is going on When

21:58

they do tell it when they're Eventually like here's

22:00

what's going on. You're like, oh shit I'm

22:03

in a hundred percent when they're driving away

22:05

in the car and the grandmother tells us the

22:07

six of the seven rules Yes, we don't get

22:09

the last one till later. I was like, oh

22:11

shit. This is what's going on. Good God Oh,

22:14

that last one is brutal

22:16

Yeah but I feel like

22:18

if you've tried to watch this movie

22:21

and you got like 20 minutes into

22:23

it and you're like What is this?

22:25

I am NOT into this keep watching

22:27

keep watching It's it gets so much

22:29

better. Yeah, I literally was not enjoying

22:32

like I did not like the movie

22:34

at all until 20

22:36

minutes in when the shit hits the

22:38

fan and you're like, okay, holy shit.

22:40

No one's safe Yeah, no one

22:42

is safe. It's gonna be a ball to

22:45

the wall of like crazy ride. Yeah, and it is

22:47

I mean, it's a slow It's

22:50

such a creepy vibe on the whole thing. It

22:52

is paced well though, too It's only it's

22:54

only like a hundred minutes long. It's really

22:57

well done Why they kicked off like they

22:59

hear like the first thing you hear is gunshots

23:01

and then it's two brothers like Going to stand

23:03

out in front of their property like four deaths

23:06

in the first five to ten minutes. Yeah

23:08

for The movie moves like I

23:10

don't think it's slow at all I think it's a

23:12

little inaccessible because I just grew up in a different

23:14

culture than the movie is meant for right We're like

23:16

once you learn what's going on. It's nuts from then

23:19

on. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it actively made me

23:21

want to watch this dude's other movies I

23:23

was just like holy shit, we've been sleeping

23:25

on this shit, you know, I'm not dealing

23:27

nihilism The endings a little dark sure and

23:30

yes and and agreed but I'm

23:32

still fucking here for okay so

23:34

this also made me think about the pesticides

23:38

thing because evil

23:40

often does win in those situations

23:42

like the corporations will pay a

23:44

fine that they consider cost of doing

23:46

business for destroying families and like killing

23:49

people with cancer and poisons and pesticides

23:51

and Then they will like walk

23:53

by and like put a red handprint on

23:55

your head Like they're about to raise you

23:57

up on Pride Rock and then they're gonna

23:59

walk off into this bloody sunset. Yeah,

24:02

when this movie ends with essentially

24:04

the birth of a Crowley and

24:06

moon child, I was like, what

24:08

the fuck? Like, okay, okay. And

24:10

so it was so crazy that

24:12

the nihilism I was like, yeah,

24:14

I don't know how else you

24:16

could have ended that. Well, I

24:18

think that's part of it. So like,

24:20

I think there is the cancer cluster

24:22

thing that I got lucky and guessed

24:24

right. Yeah. But I think there's also

24:26

like an apathy from the

24:28

state perspective. Yeah. About what's going on

24:31

with like the populace, especially the like

24:33

lower class populace, like the more rural

24:35

and you know, less privileged. Right. But

24:38

I also think there is like a-

24:40

Argentina just got a big libertarian thing

24:42

going on over there right now. They

24:44

have a new president and he's like

24:47

an interesting person. I don't know enough

24:49

about it to talk about. Thanks for the update.

24:52

But like poverty has risen like 30% since he got elected president

24:55

and he looks wild from like straight from

24:57

1972. I forgot what I was gonna

25:00

say. Anyway, he believes in a very

25:02

small government who's not coming to save

25:04

you from possessed demons taking over your

25:07

city. Which is what we see in this

25:09

film. Like when they- because

25:11

that's the other thing. This movie exists in

25:13

a world where the government knows about

25:15

demon possessions and devil babies and

25:17

is like, we'll send someone around

25:20

to get to it. Well,

25:22

who is- the landowner was like, they're not coming

25:24

to help because they want my land. And I

25:26

was like, that's- Yeah. Ooh. Is that true? Is

25:29

that that's a jump maybe? Imminent domain.

25:31

I mean, he might

25:33

be wrong, but I don't know. Like he might

25:35

also be right. Who's to say? It did take

25:37

the government a year to send somebody. Now I

25:39

realized that the cleaner gets killed like the very

25:41

beginning of the movie, but like it did take

25:43

him a fucking year to get out there, you

25:45

know? Well, and when we find out what

25:47

eventually happened to him, I thought that was really

25:49

interesting too. Anyway, should we just dive in

25:51

and talk about the movie? Yeah, let's just jump into

25:53

the movie because that happens. That's like what kicks off the

25:56

movie. And also my notes are a little

25:58

sparse because I was too busy being- like, what

26:00

the fuck? So, you know, just

26:02

a heads up for that. Anywho, we

26:04

open late night on a farm, two

26:07

brothers hear noises outside and they go

26:09

to check it out. They don't really

26:11

see anything, but they are hearing what

26:14

sounds like vicious animals, like ripping things

26:16

apart. So they kind of post up

26:18

outside their farmhouse guns drawn,

26:20

waiting for something to come get

26:23

them. More or less, yeah, they're like

26:25

just protecting themselves and they're like house

26:27

from whatever's going on. Cause they do

26:29

hear gunshots, right? So like he even

26:31

says, I heard two shots and then

26:33

a break and then three shots and

26:36

it was a revolver, not a rifle. So it's

26:38

not a hunter. It was like that kind of

26:40

stuff. And then you start to hear the animal

26:42

noises and they just stand outside holding like shotguns

26:44

more or less. And then I

26:47

think it's Pedro says to his brother, like we'll

26:49

wait till dawn or whatever. Like we're not going

26:51

to go into the forest to go see what

26:53

that is until we've got like overhead lighting. You

26:55

don't understand? Yeah, of course not. It did make

26:57

me feel thankful for like we live in a

26:59

country where like you can call people for that

27:01

no matter where you live in this country. You're

27:03

like, Hey, I saw, I heard a lot of

27:05

gunshots. Please. You know, I mean, in most

27:07

places in this country, I think there's definitely

27:09

places where you might have to stand out

27:11

there until the morning. Yeah.

27:14

You know, anyway, so the next day

27:16

they do go out looking to see what

27:18

has happened and they do find a dismembered

27:20

body and it's literally sliced in half with

27:23

something sharp. We will never find out

27:25

exactly what sliced him in half. No,

27:27

we don't. But we do find him

27:29

next to a suitcase full of gold

27:31

tools that looks like

27:34

the, you know, it looks

27:36

like a sextet. It looks like the dial of

27:38

destiny. It looks like, you know, a time

27:40

turner, like some

27:42

sort of circle gold

27:44

thing. I don't know if you notice this when

27:46

they, when they're going through it and they find like

27:48

the documentation that's inside of it and stuff and you

27:50

see like the, the case that it's in, there's

27:53

a father of more like, just extra bottles

27:57

of holy water. It says father of Mortis on

27:59

the side. That was the first thing I

28:01

thought is I was like oh Demon

28:03

killing kit and I was like oh,

28:05

I don't understand what's happened, but I'm

28:07

in I didn't know this at this

28:09

point But what it actually is is a

28:11

demon abortion kit. Oh, yes. Yes

28:13

because you have to kill Well, you have

28:16

to like stop the process before the moon

28:18

child is born. Yeah Mike

28:21

you Paige and I are just talking sex magic. Don't worry

28:23

about it. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're over here. Just

28:25

talking about the lemic Principles. That's

28:27

fine. It's part of the left-hand path.

28:29

I'm gonna need you to strip down

28:31

get a knife and start coming on

28:33

triangles Mikey your face although

28:35

accurate lets me know you really don't

28:37

know what we're talking about And honestly

28:39

your life is better for it. I

28:41

mean Victor. I like the church all

28:43

that that culty stuff That's that's fine.

28:46

Hey without that shit. We wouldn't be on

28:48

the moon and that's real. That is

28:50

real. That's a jet propulsion labs Shout

28:53

out JPL Anyway, Johnny

28:56

Parsons. Yeah, Jack Parsons John was his

28:58

father's name and he hated it So he

29:00

went by Jack anyway the folder of information

29:02

that they find with it is for their

29:04

neighbor that lives on like the neighboring parcel

29:07

of land and So they

29:09

go to see her and they're like

29:11

hey, were you waiting for somebody because

29:13

they ain't gonna make it and we

29:15

found them Super dead

29:17

in the field so they're

29:20

not coming. We found their legs We

29:22

on their legs on that the rest of the

29:24

body is kind of off scattered around But

29:27

we had to stop our dog from like eating

29:29

it a ton, but it's still out there. Yeah,

29:31

oopsie daisies Yeah, and she's like yeah, that guy

29:33

was supposed to come kill my son. You're a

29:35

L and you're like what I know That's a

29:37

weird way to kick off a conversation right? I don't think

29:39

it was kill I think it was cure because they like

29:42

don't kill them. No, she says kill. Oh,

29:44

well, maybe maybe they'd be killed in a

29:46

certain way Yes, they do because if you

29:49

shoot them, especially like shit's gonna kick off

29:51

But yeah, you you're not even supposed to

29:53

harm them, which we don't find out until

29:55

the song really you're not supposed to move

29:58

them You're not supposed to take the things that they

30:00

want, which will apply to

30:02

anyone touched by them. Because I think that's part

30:04

of what happens with the mom, it's like you

30:06

took the things that she most wanted and

30:09

it breathes on your fear. You were afraid this

30:11

would happen and so it happened. Self-perpetuation

30:13

in a way. So they go

30:15

in to see Uriel and holy

30:18

crap has Mike Meyers character from

30:20

that third Austin Powers movie let

30:22

himself go. You're thinking of

30:24

Fat Bastard Paige. Indeed, I believe

30:26

that was his name. Yes, it does.

30:28

Fat Bastard, he has a baby in

30:30

his belly. It's a demon baby, but

30:32

yeah. It's a demon baby. He ate Werner

30:34

Herzog or whatever that guy's name was. Vern

30:37

Troyer who is dead. Oh,

30:39

he died? Yes. That's sad, I feel,

30:41

I'm so sorry. I just like in this

30:43

world, men and women can both get pregnant

30:45

and so it's like an equal rights kind

30:47

of thing. Exactly. Anyway, yeah, Uriel

30:49

looks bad. Uriel looks

30:51

like the most terrifying episodes of

30:54

shows on TLC. He looks

30:56

like Pizza the Hutt. He does,

30:58

he even leaks like ooze. It's

31:00

so, it's so gross. He's like

31:02

Lone Star. Okay,

31:05

the worst part for me is he's wearing

31:07

tighty whities that are like stained yellow. All

31:09

tighty whities get there eventually, Paige. What? I

31:12

know, but it definitely looks like

31:14

like puffy, gross diarrhea that's just

31:16

hooling. I'm so sorry, Tuck. Fuck.

31:18

The body horror in this is

31:20

rough. Oh, it's so rough, man.

31:22

Like the body horror doesn't really do it

31:24

a lot for me. There are almost no

31:26

jump scares in this movie and I'm gonna

31:28

rate it high. Cause the body horror is

31:31

fucking good and I hate it. Well,

31:34

they clap eyes on Uriel and they're like, oh

31:37

no, this is fucking

31:40

bad. And so they go to

31:42

the police and they're like, police,

31:45

hey, Uriel is

31:47

possessed. He looks bad. And

31:50

also we found a dead guy in

31:52

the ground. Yeah, you

31:55

guys could cut this, but first they told

31:57

Uriel Gilbert's up on that water

31:59

tower again. can't get him down no

32:01

Mikey and they do say

32:03

that they should have burned

32:05

the house down around they

32:08

don't mention that which hey

32:10

that's not the right way to treat people in this situation

32:12

get them help but that's what they're trying to do and

32:14

the police are just like whatever like

32:16

I will send a guy they just

32:20

ignore that there's half a body they're like there was

32:22

a murder Tuesday

32:25

how many murders like

32:28

can't come back when there's two

32:30

murders but yeah like

32:33

even like the guy who runs that police station

32:35

or whatever because it looks like there's only two

32:37

dudes that work there yeah but like the

32:39

one that's like a higher rank clearly

32:41

is like right listen all we do

32:43

in this situation is alert the proper

32:45

authorities which I get the vibe isn't

32:47

the police it's like the cleaning service

32:49

whatever that is yeah yeah yeah like

32:52

I really hope they flush out in

32:54

episode two of this awesome season that

32:57

we're hopefully gonna get or some sort

32:59

of comic book yeah thank you yes

33:01

but like I don't know who they call

33:03

but they call someone and they handle it

33:05

like the police don't even handle it so

33:07

in his mind he's like the guy who

33:09

died the cleaner who died that's on the

33:11

cleaner the cleaning department like they're gonna handle

33:13

it I'm not gonna do shit for you

33:15

so like leave well and

33:18

then you find out that like the

33:20

cops hate this dude oh because they

33:22

think and maybe he did try and

33:24

do something very terrible he did

33:26

cuz he admits it later oh that's right

33:29

cuz it's kind of underlying for the whole

33:31

movie where they're like oh it did a

33:33

mistake are you crazy yeah because we will

33:35

find out that he tried to kill his

33:37

entire family with carbon monoxide poisoning yes is

33:40

what happened possibly because he found out his wife

33:42

was cheating on him yes that also might be a

33:44

lie because she's not a reliable narrator at that point

33:46

but yeah we have no idea yeah I

33:49

do think that the demon knows it yeah

33:51

and kills his whole family in front of

33:53

him as like I'm like a as like

33:55

a really good torture I think so too

33:57

yeah but I do love the

33:59

cops are just like, hey, stop it.

34:01

We're trying to watch our stories. Like they're

34:04

just like not. And but

34:06

I think that's also the callousness

34:08

with which the authorities treat the

34:10

rural people impacted by those

34:12

cancer causing chemicals. It's just like, oh,

34:15

again, you again. Yeah. Like

34:17

more tumors, whatever, you know, it's

34:19

not a tumor. Yeah. Like, oh,

34:21

more rotten. That hasn't happened here in

34:23

ages. Like the one who's like, obviously,

34:25

a lower rank police officer is like,

34:27

that could never happen here, bro. Like

34:29

just get the fuck out or whatever.

34:31

Like, yeah, completely complete denial about what's

34:34

going on. Well, and I love

34:36

that they call it a rotten.

34:38

And like, that's the word they

34:40

use because it is evocative of

34:42

like your crops going rotten, things

34:44

rotting. Yes. Things infecting other things,

34:46

things turning other things rotten. I

34:48

think that terminology is great, too. And I'm

34:50

sure that the word is different and Spanish,

34:53

but in good job on

34:55

the subtitles, I guess, because I thought that

34:57

was actually very, very well picked. Yeah. So

34:59

they decide to go to their neighbor. They're

35:02

like, hey, Ruiz, this is what's

35:04

going on. Ruiz is like, well, let's kill

35:06

it now. Oh, like, let's immediate, which also

35:08

I was fully ready for him to shoot

35:10

you real and to have a balloon

35:12

of pus explode in that room. Like, I thought for

35:15

sure that was going to happen. Paige, please

35:17

believe I covered my face. I was

35:19

very afraid that was going to happen

35:22

because Ruiz hears about what's going on.

35:25

He like goes to their place. Not

35:27

immediately. He thinks about it for a

35:29

bit. We see that. But like, sure.

35:31

He almost immediately, as far as the

35:33

story time is concerned, goes over there

35:35

with a shotgun and is like, get

35:37

out of my face, motherfuckers. I'm

35:39

going to kill your son slash

35:41

brother. Right. Right. Insane. That's your

35:43

responsibility, Todd, if someone's rotten on

35:45

your land. I mean, you did

35:48

not read your mortgage contract. I

35:50

clearly did not. I can't paint

35:52

my house pink. I can't shoot rotten

35:54

in my house. Man, this HOA sucks.

35:57

Anyway, so Ruiz is like.

36:00

I'm gonna go kill this this guy and his

36:02

pregnant wife is like, please don't and he's like,

36:04

I find I won't and then immediately goes Go

36:08

to get the two brothers and they're like, oh

36:10

god, so they go there Yuriel

36:12

is still alive Ruiz didn't kill him

36:15

But Ruiz is like we need to

36:17

get him away from our land We

36:20

need to do it. And so they decided

36:22

that they're going to move him and dump him 300

36:24

miles away Which

36:26

just infects a new place but like at

36:28

least it's not their place So

36:30

I think the dumping thing is what initially

36:33

made me think of the like cancer clusters, right?

36:35

because that's like what see if a guy got

36:37

in a lot of trouble for is they dumped

36:39

like shit loads of toxins into like Rivers

36:42

that were used for drinking water and like swimming

36:44

and like that. Yeah. Anyway, sorry That's what made

36:46

me think that it is initially no for

36:48

sure but what we do see in this scene is they're

36:51

like trying to drag him out of the house is Everyone

36:54

gets a little bit on them. I would

36:57

you guys have ever done this? No, God No,

37:00

I would have just left same 100% I

37:02

would have driven to go get my kids and left,

37:04

you know, yeah, but I would not have moved the

37:07

person I'd have been like no we told yeah No,

37:10

I'm not doing that by and I would have

37:12

left the night before saying I would have

37:14

been like, hey Ruiz There's one of these

37:17

but we're out. Hey, you got a rotten

37:19

special on whole grain gross ass bed

37:21

So enjoy that but I'm leaving. Yeah

37:23

burn that mattress and then

37:25

burn the ashes like So

37:29

they help they go with Ruiz and

37:32

they drive out but all of a sudden they swerve because

37:34

there's a kid in the road Oh my god And

37:37

as they swerve they accidentally dumped the body and

37:39

they think it was about 20 minutes back And

37:41

so they're like do we go back and get

37:43

it? No, the job is done. Yes that it's

37:45

that town's problem Don't worry about it. And

37:48

it very clearly is like a town Yeah that they

37:50

just like drop them off and because that kid was

37:52

on like a paved street There are houses like yeah,

37:54

the kids shouldn't have been in the middle of the

37:56

street Sure, but like it's a residential area where they

37:58

stop in real life It's a

38:01

rural residential area, but yeah,

38:03

yeah, but it's like a suburb maybe you

38:05

know I'm saying it's like that sort of thing,

38:07

but when they stop and realize they dumped it

38:09

already It's like dirt road

38:11

like it's very rural so they're like

38:14

pretty far away. Yeah, they're like Oh, yeah,

38:16

so they go home and the two brothers

38:18

sit up all night, and they're like yeah

38:20

I think we got to just leave like

38:22

I don't think like we'll leave in the

38:24

morning But like I don't think we

38:26

took care of it. I think it's better if we

38:28

just go yeah But as they're deciding

38:30

that who should show up to the door, but

38:33

your yells younger brother who says my mom is

38:35

gone I don't know where she went. I can't

38:37

find her. I'm very very cold. Please. Give me

38:39

a place to stay Yeah, they do not invite

38:41

him in vampire rules Right

38:44

they make him stay in the barn and they take

38:47

his gun and Dump out how

38:49

many bullets are in it and it is a

38:51

revolver and there's one bullet missing yeah the implication

38:53

I think being that he shot the mom most

38:55

likely I think so yeah We never confirm

38:57

it, but I would say I'm ninety nine

38:59

point nine nine nine percent sure well doesn't

39:02

he say later? He eats the mom he ate

39:04

pieces of her yeah Yeah, he also ate

39:06

pieces of the cleaner Mikey. Yeah,

39:08

I think yes that is one of

39:10

the things we learned Yeah, well and and we see

39:12

other people do that as well. I guess yeah

39:14

Yeah, well we'll get to it towards

39:16

the end so the next morning they

39:18

get up their pack antelease Meanwhile the

39:20

next morning at Ruisa's house his wife

39:22

sees that one of their goats seems

39:24

off And she believes that

39:27

it is the spirit of the rotten in that

39:29

goat and at first you're like this is fucking

39:31

nuts But Ruiz goes out there with a shotgun

39:34

Cox it and fires into the air

39:36

a warning shot the herd scatters except

39:38

for that one goat And he holds

39:41

that gun and the goat walks up

39:43

to it like fucking shoot me

39:45

bro I thought that was why

39:47

oh my god shoot me bro. It

39:49

was not it was like bitch. You

39:52

better don't with that shotgun Yeah, although

39:54

Ruiz does though like he does should

39:56

thou shoot maliciously to

40:00

Glock maliciously. But he, but like

40:02

Ruiz does though because he shoots him

40:05

in the face. In the face. It's

40:07

bad. This is the thing that

40:09

this sets up what we will

40:11

see through the rest of the

40:13

movie which is not only should

40:15

you not shoot a rotten with

40:17

gunpowder because it will jump person

40:19

to person but also if you

40:21

witness someone doing it it also

40:23

infects you. It causes like a

40:25

chain. Yeah. Because Ruiz shoots his

40:27

wife who is holding an axe

40:29

and was basically going to be

40:31

like no kill the goat with

40:33

the axe because it doesn't have

40:35

gunpowder. Right. She as soon

40:38

as Ruiz shoots she

40:40

hit gets Ruiz in the head

40:42

with the axe. Yeah. And then

40:44

uses the axe to cave in

40:46

her own face. Yeah she turns

40:48

the axe on herself. Yeah. Oh. She

40:50

axes herself a question. And

40:53

the question is what's thou like

40:55

to live maliciously. Well since he died

40:57

she couldn't live without her axe. Oh

40:59

because he's the axe. Yes.

41:01

I liked it. Anyway this scene is kind of

41:03

creepy for me because I feel like the

41:06

effects of her axing herself were better than

41:08

I was anticipating they would be. Me too.

41:10

Honestly all of the body horror stuff and

41:12

this is way better than I was used

41:14

to and expecting. I was like oh wow.

41:17

And she was pregnant. So right away I

41:19

was like oh this movie's not going to

41:21

pull any of the punches. It did not

41:23

pull any punches. Nope. No punches were pulled.

41:25

Like no holds were barred I think is

41:27

what I said earlier and especially

41:30

when the dog thing happens I was

41:32

like oh my god.

41:34

Yeah. So the next morning the brothers leave

41:36

they go into into town

41:38

to get the older brother's tit.

41:41

Now it is a contentious meeting with

41:43

his children's stepfather his

41:46

ex-wife's husband and

41:48

we learn that there's a restraining order

41:50

in place that he left for a

41:53

long amount of time and hadn't seen

41:55

them. It's not good and

41:57

add to that he just strips down in the middle

41:59

of the their kitchen. Yeah. Because

42:02

he's like, burn these clothes. I get rid of them. But

42:04

before they can get rid of those clothes,

42:06

the dog sniffs them. So he

42:08

gets a change of clothes. The dog is suddenly

42:11

and it was it's a bulldog. It's kind of

42:13

like everywhere all at once. And then it's just

42:15

sitting very quietly. Yeah. Like

42:17

a clear change. But so

42:20

the brother goes up the stairs to

42:22

wake up his oldest son. His younger

42:24

son, Santino is around and his younger

42:26

sister, Vicki, who I don't think is

42:28

our main character's daughter, but she is

42:30

a sibling to the other two. I

42:32

think it's the stepfather and ex-wife's

42:35

daughter Vicki. Okay. So

42:37

I got the vibe that it was the stepfather's

42:40

daughter from a different marriage.

42:42

No, I'm pretty sure it's

42:44

still the ex-wife's daughter. Because

42:46

the son, the younger son that is

42:48

Pedro's is younger than that daughter, right?

42:50

No, no, I think he was older.

42:52

She was like toddler. She was like,

42:54

toddler-y. Yeah. She's very little.

42:57

Did you notice when the dog is jerking her

42:59

body around? Yeah. She's chucky-sized.

43:01

You're right. Well, we'll get to it. We'll

43:04

get to it. Jesus. They

43:06

are fully arguing. And as the adults are

43:08

arguing, the little girl

43:10

gets too close to the dog. And the

43:12

dog's just been sitting there the whole time.

43:14

And this is a pet in the household.

43:17

So like the little girl is like,

43:19

hi, doggy. Like it's her friend. And

43:21

that dog just viciously attacks

43:24

her, drags her under

43:26

the dining room table, and shakes

43:28

her to death. And you watch.

43:30

And it's fucked up. Yeah.

43:33

Like, oh my god. She lives. No,

43:36

she does not, Mikey. So

43:39

he collects his sons. Yair, who

43:41

is the older son who has

43:43

autism. Yeah. And Santino,

43:46

the younger son who is maybe

43:48

seven, six or seven. He's very

43:50

young. Yeah. He pretty

43:53

young. He gets Yair to tell him

43:55

where the keys are so

43:57

that they can steal his ex-wife.

44:00

car. Absolutely. He piles them into the car.

44:02

She's not gonna need it. Yeah not gonna need it. And

44:04

as that's happening he kind of takes off after

44:07

the stepfather to be like hey please

44:09

don't shoot that dog not with the gun like

44:11

oh no. Yeah. And watches as the stepfather is

44:13

about to do it he turns so he doesn't

44:15

see it and heads back to the

44:17

house piles everyone into the car as

44:19

he's stealing the car the

44:22

little girl shows back up

44:24

seemingly completely unharmed. It's nuts. Can

44:26

I say this really quick? Yeah. Because I

44:28

think it's a part of like the apathy

44:31

stuff of the movie. He does like run

44:33

down on a cop and is like this

44:35

is going on it's insane and those cops

44:37

are like bro you're not supposed to be

44:39

here your ex has a restraining order against

44:41

you and he's like a dog

44:44

just dragged a girl down the street cop

44:46

like do something about that and they're like

44:48

are you having a break like are you

44:50

all right and the cops they drive

44:52

off in the other direction. Yeah. Yeah.

44:54

The cops don't even check out the very

44:57

like plausible story that he is like heightened

44:59

about. Yeah. It's insane. Well because the mom

45:01

and the dad the stepdad would have told

45:03

them but like since the kid was fine

45:05

they're like oh she's fine. Well this is

45:07

before the kid comes back because the dog

45:09

had just ride her down the street. They

45:12

do end up there because the mom has now

45:14

called them. Eventually. Yeah. Yeah. So they

45:16

do end up there. The little girl seems fine

45:18

but then she pulls her mom close and whispers

45:20

dad is gonna kill you with the car he's

45:23

gonna drive up here and he's gonna kill you

45:25

with the car and you're like oh

45:27

my god and the mom is just like I'm just

45:29

glad you're okay like yeah you know kids be saying

45:31

spooky shit I haven't had a chance to check the

45:33

thread again today in the Facebook group. It's

45:35

already started. It's already

45:37

started and I'm excited for all the spooky

45:39

child stories. That episode doesn't come out

45:42

till tomorrow for anyone who's not on

45:44

Patreon and it's already started Paige. I

45:46

mean very excited anyway so

45:48

as they're hugging lo and

45:50

behold the husband's truck or

45:52

the stepfather's truck jumps the

45:54

curb smashing the wife and

45:56

daughter into the house. Like

46:01

insane it's brutal and he

46:03

is like asleep at the wheel and

46:05

like wakes up Covered in

46:07

blood that's the last we see of him

46:09

But it's probably not the last of what

46:11

happens because at this point the older brother

46:13

sure he went out as a demon I'm

46:15

sure is you know I'm sure that skittered out all

46:18

over the place Yeah, because the town is like gone.

46:20

What do we go over there at the end of

46:22

the movie and like four people saw

46:24

it Yeah, too, so like all those

46:26

people skitter out. Yeah, anyway They he

46:28

meets up with the younger brother they

46:30

pick up the grandmother So

46:33

their mom yeah, and she's

46:35

like oh great. You brought the grandkids. How'd you

46:37

work? She never

46:39

lets me see that she's just like

46:41

completely oblivious, and they're like mom. There's

46:44

a demon It's loose in the city Everybody

46:47

the rhymes are here, and she's just like no

46:50

you and your crazy kids with

46:52

your funny stories ah no So

46:56

they drive out of town as they're doing that she

46:59

talks to Santino about all

47:01

of the different rules for

47:03

rotten Which are very similar

47:05

to rules for some other cryptids that we'll talk about in

47:07

fun facts, but also While

47:10

they were trying to escape yeah,

47:12

you saw the truck hit yeah

47:15

the mom and the little girl

47:18

So yeah, you're is agitated

47:21

And we will come back to it a little

47:23

bit later But they stop at a gas station

47:25

trying to find your apple ice cream which by

47:28

the way we see the apple ice

47:30

cream later In the movie yeah, we know

47:32

I want some it looked amazing I

47:34

was like like green apple flavor never

47:37

had apple ice cream. Yes. I'm down

47:39

for neither this sounds so good I

47:41

was like oh, and it's in like this

47:43

giant styrofoam today. I was all for I

47:45

was like yeah anyway But

47:48

they also don't have any money, so they're kind

47:50

of stranded and so the younger brother

47:52

is like I know this lady She'll

47:54

help us out. She's dealt with stuff like this,

47:56

and she'll probably give us money So they get

47:59

there and she is absolutely creepy creeps

48:01

and I love her instantly. Oh

48:03

yeah, but she is like, she's the one

48:05

who really knows what's going on. You know?

48:08

Yes. She knows the truth. Yeah.

48:11

The Illuminati. The Illuminati? Ooh,

48:14

Paige, I love it. That's so

48:16

fun. Anyway. Also, does

48:18

that make her like, I just, I

48:20

want her movie. Like, I want to

48:22

know like what, like, cause she has

48:24

like this insane awesome story and she's

48:26

the reason the town hasn't had to

48:29

deal with Rotten's for the past 12

48:31

years. Like her and I think

48:33

maybe her husband. Like,

48:35

I think she's a widow, but like

48:37

something. Yeah. Yeah, but like she

48:39

was definitely a cleaner, right? Like she says

48:42

that like, she's just too old to be

48:44

able to do anymore. Her reflexes aren't where

48:46

they needed to be or whatever. You know,

48:48

she has like this whole awesome backstory and

48:50

then she dies because this motherfucker has no

48:52

self control. And like, I

48:54

would be so mad. There's also an

48:57

implication that the younger brother had a relationship

48:59

with her at some point, but we don't

49:01

get more about that either. I was going

49:03

to bring that up. I was like, did Pedro's

49:06

brother have sex with the old lady

49:08

because? I think so. Pedro, and what

49:10

is Pedro's brother's name? I feel like I

49:12

keep losing track of the two brothers names.

49:14

Pedro's brother is the most

49:17

logical of the people. And

49:19

sometimes she was his teacher.

49:22

So like, I think it was a college type

49:24

situation. The good for, you know, hello, Mrs. Robinson.

49:28

They obviously maintain a professional relationship after that. To

49:31

be a cleaner, you got to get dirty. You

49:33

know what I'm saying? Sometimes you got to get

49:35

out to get up. You know, lots

49:37

of bodily fluids. Dick your

49:39

sextants in me. You know, I mean,

49:42

the last cleaner literally got split in

49:44

half, guys. Cleft in twain.

49:46

Yeah. But like it

49:48

was the worst case of being cut in half.

49:50

I ever seen a cleaner. He

49:53

met a wayward magician on the way to the

49:55

house and was like, I'm going to solve you

49:58

in two. And the trick failed. Illusion

50:00

he actually saw them in hand. It's

50:02

an illusion Michael. Yeah This

50:05

is Mikey from Harv virgin. I practiced this ad

50:07

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You have to cook them. It takes

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the microwave. It's two minutes That's what

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my dating profile says always two minutes

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It's only healthier though. They have a bunch

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of like dietary options like low calorie or

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protein or keto the keto keto

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Mikey you said it wrong so many times.

51:09

I'm not sure if I don't remember how

51:11

to say it right. It's keto, right? Keto,

51:14

no, it's keto. It's keto. But

51:16

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51:37

she her house has no electricity

51:40

by design I thought I designed

51:42

because electric light because she knows

51:44

better page Well, I I love

51:46

that they're like electric lights and the shadows

51:49

they cast draw the evil in Yeah, which

51:51

we saw with some of the antlers and

51:53

the seven the other farmhouses But

51:56

yeah your won't go inside and so Pedro

51:58

has to spend the night with him

52:00

in the car while his

52:02

mom tucks Santino in inside

52:05

and the younger brother talks to

52:07

I believe her name was Mitra?

52:09

Yeah, I believe it is Mitra, yeah. Mitra?

52:12

It's M-I-R-T-H-A. I just looked it

52:14

up. Mirtha. Anyway, the

52:16

cleaner lady. Yeah. Cleaner lady. They're talking.

52:19

Everyone kind of retires to bed and

52:21

we cut to Yair and Pedro sleeping

52:23

in the car and who

52:26

should swipe a bloody handprint

52:28

across the car but Sabrina,

52:30

his ex-wife. Yeah. No,

52:33

no, no. She's here for her kids. And

52:35

her face is messed up. Oh yeah. Well

52:37

because she's a demon and you took the

52:39

things she wanted most. Well and also you

52:42

try and look good after your husband smashed you into

52:44

the wall with a Jeep. Yeah. Or

52:46

truck or whatever it was. Truxecutioner. So.

52:49

Oh, been there. Yeah. Let

52:52

me flip the sign. Zero days. Zero

52:54

days. Oh, did I bring

52:56

it up? She said Truxecutioner. You joined in. You

52:58

all joined. Paige did it. I still have

53:00

to flip the sign. I'm contractually obligated. I

53:03

guess that's fair. Technically this one's on Paige

53:05

but I do respect that you do have

53:07

to flip the sign because the topic of

53:09

me having sex with the truck that killed

53:11

my brother came up. Use

53:14

protection. That's what I thought of

53:16

when we watched the film West Side Story.

53:18

Is it? Yeah. I

53:20

think that is where that originated. I don't remember why. Because

53:22

Maria has sex with the brother of the guy

53:24

who kills her brother. That's what it is. God,

53:28

I forgot that. I got that technically

53:30

romancing the pod bit then. I didn't

53:32

realize that. West Side Story is one

53:34

of my favorite romances of pod episodes

53:36

because I tried to watch a musical

53:39

that you two love and I'm like why does Maria sleep

53:41

with the guy who murders her brother? That

53:43

would be like Todd sleeping with a truck that killed

53:45

his brother. Oh no. It would

53:48

be like that. Yeah. I'm

53:50

so sorry. That tailpipe though you

53:52

know Mikey? Nice and warm. It always

53:54

blows. Oh. Oh. Sabrina

53:56

the ex-wife comes in and gets Santino

53:59

from the Grandma. And the grandmother is

54:01

just like, I took sleeping pills and I don't

54:03

know what's going on, but oh hey ex-wife How's

54:05

it going? Because Pedro did not tell anyone that

54:07

the ex-wife is dead. Maybe he should have included

54:09

that detail earlier. Pedro Is his name

54:11

Pedro? Yes. I thought it was Pedro. The

54:13

main guy with the bushy beard? Yeah. Yeah. Pretty

54:16

sure that's Pedro Yeah, his name is Ezekiel Rodriguez.

54:18

I'm not a fan of him as a person

54:20

or the way he operates I think one of

54:22

the themes of the movie is self-control I think

54:24

it shows that with Ruiz because Ruiz

54:26

is told not to do something he does and it

54:28

goes badly I think Pedro is

54:30

the same. I think he continues the theme

54:32

of like no self-control in these types of

54:35

situations Well, he's also a really bad communicator

54:37

and before all this he tried to murder

54:39

his entire family. I mean, yeah Yeah,

54:41

also the younger brother by the way is

54:43

Jimmy or Jaime Okay, pronounce

54:46

it. Okay, but it is Pedro then?

54:48

Yes Pedro and Jaime. Okay.

54:50

So Jaime comes out It's

54:52

like hey, something is up

54:54

grandma's freaking out. So

54:56

Pedro comes inside and The

54:58

grandma's like I thought it was Sabrina,

55:00

but it is not Sabrina, but she

55:03

took him up there Yeah, and so

55:05

he goes upstairs and Sabrina or rather

55:07

demon Sabrina has Santino

55:10

And she's just like I'm taking my kids where you

55:12

can't hurt them anymore And then

55:14

she jumps off the balcony guys when

55:16

she jumped off the balcony holding her

55:19

son that was technically alive Yes

55:21

And she's not and like he the

55:23

little kid as he's hugging his

55:26

mom is like it's cold mom Like why

55:28

are you yeah, like why is your body

55:30

cold and she's like don't worry

55:32

about it I'm gonna peace out the window now

55:34

and like yes It's insane the worst part about

55:36

dating someone or being married and stuff is like

55:38

when it's that time of the month when they

55:40

bleed all over the car and You

55:43

know, it's just the worst, you know what?

55:46

Shouldn't have left that car in my blood

55:48

path. How many times have you said that

55:50

page, you know At least once a month. I

55:53

will say when she took the kid and got on the

55:55

balcony and jumped I like got out of my chair because

55:57

I was like, oh my god. This is too much. I

55:59

know I already thought nothing was safe

56:01

and then this like amps it up even a

56:03

little bit more like well this scene coming up

56:06

Where'd you come back one coming up? That's the

56:08

one that I was like. Oh my god, it could

56:11

not get worse So they go

56:13

down below the balcony. There's no bodies.

56:16

They're not there but at this

56:18

point Mirtha and Jimmy

56:20

and Pedro are like hey shit's

56:22

fucked up hospital and like we

56:24

need to figure this out So

56:27

like one of us needs to

56:29

go after her but then clearly

56:31

the rotten is jumping and following us So

56:33

we need to go to where it's at.

56:35

Yeah, cuz he's like by the way, we

56:38

moved it and she's like you fucking idiot

56:40

Okay, fine. We'll go and find it. So

56:42

they kind of split up but because they

56:44

can't use electric lights They're having

56:46

to drive and like turn the headlights

56:48

on and off That

56:51

was an effective way to make like a little jump

56:53

scare happen It's not like a super bad jump scare

56:55

But it did sort of get me a little bit

56:57

because every time he flashes the light you're like, please

56:59

don't please don't be there Please don't be there. I

57:01

thought boom. It's there. You're like, ah shit. That's

57:03

also I don't know why this is like a

57:06

Fear of my like, you know how you have

57:08

everyone of those things that they that frees them

57:10

out a little bit Yeah, my fear is driving

57:12

at night on Small roads

57:14

where there aren't a lot of streetlights

57:16

So it's just your headlights and

57:19

then just illuminating something terrifying in

57:21

the headlights. Yeah, we Like

57:23

a couple months back we're supposed we were driving

57:26

home from the bay and part of the grapevine

57:28

was closed We had to go around and it

57:30

was just like one lane road with

57:32

turn turn backs at like two in the morning

57:35

Trees and stuff and I was like there is

57:37

gonna be a werewolf like I know it Or

57:42

a zombie page I once played a show

57:44

and like at a rural to it was well

57:46

I just say it was at a rural place

57:49

and Coming back down the mountain that we played

57:51

on it was raining and it was like a

57:53

windy road It was paved but it was a

57:55

windy road and I come like whipping around the

57:57

turn and there's just like a big-ass wolf

58:00

in the road and it wasn't like

58:02

scary permanently. It wasn't like a bad

58:04

situation, but man did I scream like

58:06

an eight year old child. I

58:09

was so scared. And then of

58:11

course I was like, oh, it's just a wolf. And he like

58:13

trotted on his way. And I like continued

58:15

down the mountain, but like I was glad I was in

58:17

the car alone. The scariest one I ever

58:19

had. So I did my first few years of

58:21

college at UC Irvine and we lived off campus.

58:24

I like lived in this sorority house for a

58:26

while, but then we moved off campus and

58:28

our apartment was right on the other side

58:31

of a nature preserve that is part of

58:33

the college. And it's like a little weird

58:35

swamp and you have to drive through

58:37

it to get to campus. But

58:39

at night it would get really, really

58:42

foggy. And so like your, you

58:44

know, headlights would like illuminate the fog, but it was

58:46

just like only a few feet in front of you.

58:49

Now it's also not a great distance. So like

58:51

people would walk back and forth

58:53

from campus to those apartments all

58:56

the time. And so

58:58

one night it's super late.

59:00

I'm driving and my headlights

59:03

illuminate a lone figure shuffling.

59:06

Ooh, yeah. No thank you. Down

59:08

the sidewalk. And as I pass

59:10

slowly, I look back in my mirror and he

59:12

has what looks like blood all down the

59:15

front of his shirt and his mouth. I'm out. And

59:18

I'm like, oh my God, is it a zombie?

59:20

Like I just like, and I was like,

59:22

okay, okay, okay, okay. Before we call 911, let's

59:25

turn around and get another look and make sure

59:27

that we're not imagining things that, you know,

59:29

or whatever. So I slipped around, drove back down

59:31

the other way. So I would

59:33

see him like walking towards the car

59:35

and it was definitely just a freshman

59:37

who had thrown up all over the

59:40

house. But for like a hot 20

59:42

seconds I was like, ahh, zombie! Like

59:45

oh no! But yeah, so

59:47

this very, this is a

59:49

personal fear. This was very scary. And

59:51

of course he comes upon Sabrina

59:54

walking with the baby. And

59:56

as we were, like he drives past, cause she

59:58

just doesn't even notice the car. She pretends

1:00:00

like it's not even there couldn't care less. Yeah, she's

1:00:02

busy eating Santino's brain out of his head

1:00:04

Like it's the dune popcorn bucket from from

1:00:07

the movie theater Yeah, cuz as we

1:00:09

turn around she's just reaching into his

1:00:11

head and eating brains. He's very dead.

1:00:13

Yeah, very dead It's very graphic.

1:00:16

It's very graphic and it's not

1:00:18

the gore so much as the

1:00:21

Emotional implication of what is happening.

1:00:23

Oh, yeah, that is so disturbing

1:00:25

about it. He's essentially watching his Former

1:00:28

sister-in-law eat his nephew's

1:00:31

brains Yeah out of his

1:00:33

head while just like casually walking down the

1:00:35

street just walking around That's insane. Just

1:00:37

like iPads do to our children now. Oh

1:00:40

Wow boomer Yeah,

1:00:43

exactly like that. Yeah, exactly So

1:00:46

he then basically comes back to the

1:00:48

house like oh, I fucking I

1:00:50

found her. No, you don't want to find her He

1:00:53

kills her though, right? He hits her with

1:00:55

the car. Yeah Yeah, he hits her with

1:00:58

the car. But while that's happening he loses his

1:01:00

emotions that on that on that level Yes I

1:01:02

honestly thought he was gonna end up being bad

1:01:04

because of it and there is sort of no

1:01:07

Real reason that like our two main

1:01:09

characters aren't bad Like they don't turn

1:01:11

bad because they witness a lot of

1:01:13

bad shit happening Except that Mithra

1:01:15

says there are people like us who

1:01:18

are immune sure But like how does she know

1:01:20

that they're one of those people? Well,

1:01:22

that's I think that goes back

1:01:24

to their previous relationship perhaps Oh

1:01:27

you think because Jaime was having sex with

1:01:29

the Maybe I don't know

1:01:31

like cast a spell of protection on both of

1:01:33

them or she just we don't know what happened

1:01:35

to them before This so we don't know Anyway,

1:01:38

he hits her with the car. It's

1:01:40

brutal. It's bloody. It's crazy Yeah Meanwhile

1:01:42

Mithra and the other brother are driving

1:01:44

out to where they left the body

1:01:46

and it's gone There's a blanket there.

1:01:48

But the only other thing they see

1:01:50

is a sign that says Escuela

1:01:53

Ruel, which is basically like rural

1:01:55

school like farm school Yeah, and

1:01:57

she says the line that made

1:02:00

made me know that Mikey would love

1:02:02

this movie. And

1:02:04

that was, Evil Loves Children. And

1:02:06

children love evil. I

1:02:09

was like, what? I was like, it's

1:02:11

so true. In order to make this

1:02:13

a full blown Mikey movie, Pedro, like

1:02:15

at one point, would have to like

1:02:18

cock his arms like Henry Cavill in

1:02:20

that Mission Impossible trailer and just start

1:02:22

decking these kids as they're

1:02:25

like trying to like kill them. He

1:02:27

had an opportunity. He did. And

1:02:30

that dumb guy believes these obviously

1:02:32

evil children throughout this film. Exactly.

1:02:35

They had it coming. They had

1:02:37

it coming. They did have it coming,

1:02:39

Paige. I tell you what I would have

1:02:41

done in that schoolhouse, I would have unleashed

1:02:44

hell to protect that lady in that schoolhouse.

1:02:46

Yeah. But I think that's

1:02:48

part of the metaphor of the movie,

1:02:50

of like the lack of self-control causing

1:02:52

worse situations. I don't take suggestions from

1:02:54

kids bleeding from the mouth. Okay? That's

1:02:57

a dumb rule to live by. I

1:02:59

don't take suggestions from kids covered in

1:03:01

lie for no reason. Also,

1:03:03

that will burn you and burn your

1:03:05

skin. It would if you were alive,

1:03:08

Paige, but they're fully ass-demoned

1:03:10

out. I know. No, I know. They're

1:03:13

fully ass-demoned out. Yeah. Yeah,

1:03:15

yeah, yeah. They serve the underworld.

1:03:17

So while that's all happening, back at the

1:03:19

house, grandma is sitting in the

1:03:21

house. Yair has been outside in the car.

1:03:24

And the grandma is sitting there and Yair

1:03:26

just walks into the house. Now, up until

1:03:28

this point, Yair has seemed to be largely

1:03:31

non-verbal. But Yair walks in and

1:03:33

is like, grandma, can you make me something to

1:03:35

eat? It's cold and I don't want to get sick.

1:03:37

And she's like, the what? Oh no. Which

1:03:40

I realized we skipped over something very important.

1:03:42

The hands. I was going to bring it up

1:03:44

too. Yeah. Agreed. So

1:03:47

rewind with us briefly. Yeah. A few scenes

1:03:49

back before they left the house, Mithra

1:03:51

is like, hey, I'm pretty sure Yair is

1:03:54

a rotten. And they're like, no, what?

1:03:56

What are you? He's just like that. This

1:03:59

is, I realize maybe that you're not as familiar

1:04:01

with Yair and who he is and

1:04:03

she's like, I need you to trust me. I

1:04:06

understand that he has autism.

1:04:09

However, demons can still get

1:04:11

into people like him. And even though they

1:04:13

struggle to control their minds as quickly as

1:04:15

other people, they still can. And you can

1:04:18

tell because of the hands and feet. And

1:04:20

then they show his hands and feet and

1:04:22

his hands are full ass backwards. Yeah. Backward

1:04:24

hands. Yeah. Anyway, so he walks into the

1:04:27

house and is just like, Hey, grandma, make

1:04:29

me some food. And the grandma's like, Oh

1:04:31

no. Oh my God. He's like, where's my

1:04:33

snack pack? More or less. And

1:04:36

he has been nonverbal the whole time.

1:04:38

Like time for me to have some

1:04:40

grandma ice cream. The problem is he

1:04:43

does eat his grandmother. Like that is

1:04:45

what happened. At this point in the

1:04:47

movie, I was like, this goes

1:04:49

one of two ways. Oh, did you think

1:04:52

the demonic possession was going to cure his

1:04:54

autism? No. No. What? No. Cause I was

1:04:56

like, don't do that. That would be weird.

1:04:58

No, I thought either one or two things would happen.

1:05:00

Either what happens in the movie would happen, which we'll

1:05:03

get to in just a bit. Or

1:05:05

they would come home to grandma covered in blood and

1:05:07

she's like, he was rotten. I had to do it.

1:05:10

And I was like, it could go either

1:05:12

way. I think because they wanted to

1:05:14

go full ass nihilism with it. Yeah.

1:05:17

Granny had to die. Yeah. Because she's

1:05:19

been like the optimist the whole time.

1:05:21

Yep. Anyway, meanwhile, Mithra and

1:05:23

Pedro find that school. You

1:05:26

can't nighttime

1:06:00

kids shouldn't be there it's nighttime right

1:06:02

and kids like show up yeah throughout

1:06:04

the course of the evening which is

1:06:07

weird and she's like hey yo often

1:06:10

children will protect rotten

1:06:12

because like they trust them too much

1:06:14

or whatever yeah and so they're trying

1:06:16

to find the rotten and the kids

1:06:18

like it's at my house no it's

1:06:20

at my house go over here like

1:06:22

trying to draw them away from the

1:06:24

place they did sort of like no

1:06:26

I'm Spartacus where the demon was yeah and

1:06:29

it was like in the schoolhouse like we

1:06:31

find out a little bit later like it's

1:06:33

there so they're like trying to like throw

1:06:35

him off and like the moment you realize

1:06:38

the kids are lying is when you stop

1:06:40

believing the kids yeah but he continues to

1:06:42

believe the kids way past we

1:06:44

all know they're evil well it is

1:06:47

and specifically the one kid

1:06:49

who seems conflicted and seems to be telling

1:06:51

them the truth and is like don't shoot

1:06:54

him there's an axe or whatever and she's

1:06:56

just trying to get him to leave the room

1:06:58

yes so they can murder the lady

1:07:00

the cleaner lady because Mithra

1:07:02

smells him and they realize

1:07:04

that he's under the stage piled under the dead

1:07:07

bodies of all the parents so he

1:07:09

has to like unearth him and she's

1:07:11

like pull him out and I'm like

1:07:13

how like physically how like

1:07:16

yeah if there's no way as one person

1:07:18

he's strong enough so he goes and

1:07:20

leaves to get the axe in hoping that

1:07:22

he can either kill the rotten or it'll

1:07:24

help him get more of the stage open

1:07:26

but of course the axe is gone yeah

1:07:29

well or perhaps was never there

1:07:31

or perhaps was never there I think

1:07:33

was maybe never there and he turns

1:07:35

back around they've locked him out of

1:07:38

the room as they just emotionlessly and

1:07:40

calmly murder Mithra with a hammer just

1:07:42

hammer to the face it's

1:07:44

brutal it is fucking brutal and you

1:07:47

see like her her scalp like

1:07:49

crack open and fall away and

1:07:51

her brain get exposed and then

1:07:53

keep hitting her as they're dragging

1:07:55

her out it is so freaky

1:07:58

I hated it so much so freaky

1:08:00

he finally breaks the glass which also I

1:08:02

was like break the glass because they get

1:08:04

two or three more hits on her with

1:08:07

that hammer and when he could have broken

1:08:09

the glass we got through anyway I honestly

1:08:11

thought okay so I didn't realize it

1:08:13

was gonna have an endless ending I

1:08:15

thought the moment we all realized that

1:08:17

like they're lying which is like way

1:08:19

before where we are now like that's

1:08:21

yeah anyway like that's when they

1:08:23

find the rotten guy under the

1:08:26

under the stage you know right there

1:08:28

right right thought at that point because

1:08:30

they have established now that at least

1:08:32

the cleaner lady and Pedro are immune

1:08:34

right they were gonna start blasting kids

1:08:36

like they were gonna start shooting those

1:08:38

kids to death because they were immune

1:08:40

from the trauma right projection or whatever causes

1:08:42

the person to go crazy so like

1:08:44

I was very sad we didn't get that

1:08:46

but I was sad for Mikey because I

1:08:49

thought like we were gonna get like Pedro

1:08:51

just beating the shit out of kids for

1:08:53

sure I thought so too he gave up

1:08:55

because before they even goes into the house

1:08:57

like he does punch that child a few

1:08:59

times he does I was gonna if

1:09:02

I was in this situation I first

1:09:04

off I wouldn't let that lady get gagged

1:09:06

without a fight no absolutely not no but

1:09:08

that's a self-control metaphor stuff I think and

1:09:11

then to a demon child coming

1:09:13

out of a number another man to walk towards

1:09:15

me it covered in blood that I know is

1:09:17

evil we haven't even gotten to that part Mikey

1:09:19

I'm just saying I'm just saying I would have gone

1:09:21

down swinging that's I'm gonna go down swinging in these

1:09:23

situations like I would have fought as many of those

1:09:26

children till that demon killed me you know well

1:09:28

and what happens is her machinery is

1:09:30

broken we appreciate your sacrifice Mikey

1:09:32

sure her machinery is broken

1:09:34

so when he breaks back in he doesn't know

1:09:37

how to put together he doesn't even know what

1:09:39

it does so he just grabs the heaviest looking

1:09:41

piece and caves in the skull

1:09:43

of the rotten who falls

1:09:45

back below the stage and rising up out of

1:09:47

the stage because I'm sure they didn't have the

1:09:50

budget for something weirder is the bloody

1:09:52

demon baby who gets up

1:09:54

and then it like marks

1:09:57

Pedro's head but then see

1:09:59

me just walks off through the field with

1:10:01

the children, which is a haunting visual in

1:10:03

its own, but also I turned to Jake

1:10:05

and I was like, what if this is

1:10:08

a prequel for Children of the Corn? Right?

1:10:11

Well, he just stays on his knees and

1:10:13

lets all these kids walk over him. It's

1:10:16

crazy. Yep. He returns back,

1:10:18

he and his brother come back and

1:10:20

their mom is gone. And the fact

1:10:22

that they aren't immediately like, where's grandma?

1:10:24

They don't seem to question it. They

1:10:26

don't, which is concerning, I think. Well, she's

1:10:28

older, you know? Yeah. But they

1:10:30

give Yair his apple ice cream

1:10:33

and Yair seems back to

1:10:35

the state that we have seen him in most of

1:10:37

the movie. Yeah. So like, I mean, you

1:10:39

do sort of wonder like, okay, so the

1:10:41

demon won because it like was born and

1:10:43

got away. Right. But like, does that sort

1:10:46

of release the town from its possession? No.

1:10:48

Oh, I know. But you're like sort of

1:10:50

wondering that because like his son is sort

1:10:52

of back to normal, quote normal,

1:10:54

what we're used to. Yeah. And he's just

1:10:56

eating his ice cream. So we think. Right.

1:10:59

Then he starts to choke on his

1:11:01

ice cream. The dad recalls stories

1:11:03

of someone choking and vomiting and

1:11:05

barfing up the body parts of

1:11:07

their family. Yeah. And so he

1:11:09

starts to kind of try and

1:11:12

reach into Yair's mouth to relieve

1:11:14

the choking. And he pulls out

1:11:16

large bloody chunks of hair and

1:11:18

the grandmother's necklace. Oh, it's very

1:11:20

visceral. It's tough to watch. Oh,

1:11:22

God. I almost threw up during that. I almost

1:11:24

threw up. I'm surprised you didn't. Oh, yeah. I

1:11:26

don't like swollen hairs. God. Yeah.

1:11:29

Meanwhile, Jimmy goes out to the

1:11:31

barn to see that other kid because he notices one

1:11:33

of the bullets is missing. And the kid

1:11:35

is like, Hey, I

1:11:38

killed the cleaner. I cut

1:11:40

him into pieces because the voices in

1:11:42

my head told me to. And then

1:11:44

I ate some of him. And then

1:11:47

I went home and killed and ate

1:11:49

my mother. Yeah. And so Pedro, it

1:11:51

is implied, probably kills that kid. We

1:11:53

don't see it. It happens off screen.

1:11:56

But he comes back to kind of the

1:11:58

courtyard of the house. where

1:12:00

Pedro is on his

1:12:03

knees openly weeping because

1:12:06

he now realizes that his mother is

1:12:08

dead and his son has eaten her

1:12:10

and I think he probably offscreen killed

1:12:13

Yair Yeah I think so too I think he

1:12:15

had to Yes, and we don't know

1:12:17

how Yeah yeah but it would

1:12:19

have just continued the cycle out, right?

1:12:21

Right And it's clear that that child

1:12:23

is now a demon child Yes Because

1:12:26

of the eye contact look of like

1:12:29

are you buying this act? Right Right

1:12:31

and I think so like for sure

1:12:33

I think he kills him Yes

1:12:36

and basically the end of

1:12:38

the movie is Pedro and

1:12:40

Jaime hugging each other as

1:12:42

Pedro screams in anguish and

1:12:45

does admit that he did try to

1:12:47

kill himself and all of them and

1:12:50

now that he has effectively air quotes gotten

1:12:52

his wish it is more horrifying than

1:12:54

he could have ever imagined And

1:12:58

that's the movie So they've seen

1:13:00

the movie and they talked about the movie what did

1:13:03

you guys think about when evil lurks? I

1:13:06

really did like it I liked it a lot It's

1:13:09

weird and I like it I really liked

1:13:11

it I thought it was well made Yes

1:13:13

And different than what we normally see Yes

1:13:15

In a good way Yeah man like I

1:13:19

was incredibly frustrated for the first 20-ish

1:13:21

minutes of this movie but like once

1:13:23

you start to get a handle on

1:13:25

what's going on I was like holy

1:13:27

shit this is great It almost felt

1:13:29

like it's hard to explain because like

1:13:31

I hated a lot of the reasons

1:13:33

I was laughing in this movie but

1:13:35

I laughed way more than I should

1:13:37

have been laughing I think that it

1:13:39

goes across a barrier when it kills all

1:13:41

these non-traditional people who

1:13:43

would get killed Yes Yet

1:13:46

traditionally unkillable Yes People

1:13:49

when you see stuff like that it's not

1:13:51

something you don't know how to react and

1:13:54

there's not a wrong way like gallows humor

1:13:56

laughter It literally was me like oh

1:13:59

my god Yes, no, you know

1:14:01

Milgram's experiment when they're shocking people people

1:14:03

uncomfortably laughed I like and like I

1:14:05

think it's totally normal to be like

1:14:08

oh they killed all the children I

1:14:10

was like pregnant woman died dog died

1:14:12

bunch of kids fucking die Like

1:14:15

old lady dies like ever like

1:14:17

all the people that like normally

1:14:19

survive like no Yeah, no the

1:14:21

two men who started off this

1:14:23

movie survived. Yep, that's not typically

1:14:26

Like and everyone else dies. It's crazy.

1:14:28

It's normally like the other way around. It's

1:14:30

dark It's a dark movie which I don't traditionally

1:14:32

like but it was really cool I want to

1:14:35

see his other movies now. I really made me

1:14:37

want to see yeah. Yeah, I really want to

1:14:39

I mean I do think he'll work forever because

1:14:41

of this for sure. It was very

1:14:43

easy on the eyes that film Oh, yeah, really

1:14:45

well done. What was the movie? Do you mean

1:14:47

like cinematically? Yeah, I agree I think they did

1:14:50

a really good job with sort of everything I

1:14:53

don't know how they got that

1:14:55

goat to do that. But man, I

1:14:57

was like what the fuck I've

1:15:01

never seen a goat walk towards a shotgun and

1:15:03

be like you won't do come at me, bro.

1:15:05

Come on What are you gonna do? I

1:15:09

was like, oh Shit, I mean,

1:15:11

but I think the whole time The

1:15:13

rotten is trying to get them to kill

1:15:16

him because then that's what it makes him

1:15:18

stronger. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely So

1:15:20

I understood eventually when they explain it

1:15:22

why that happened and I was like,

1:15:24

oh my god, this is so great

1:15:27

man It but like still super fucking

1:15:29

scary movie though. Yeah, I just think

1:15:31

it's really well done. Anyway Hey,

1:15:33

Jimmy fun facts for us. I do So

1:15:41

I'll start off with this during

1:15:43

a post premiere audience Q&A at

1:15:45

fantastic fest The director

1:15:47

Damien Ruggna said that he got the

1:15:49

idea for when Eva lurks from a

1:15:52

series of news stories about farm pesticides

1:15:54

In his native Argentina causing widespread health

1:15:56

issues and I did look up what

1:15:58

pesticides it was And it was

1:16:01

roundup. He suggests that corporate apathy about

1:16:03

workers' health and the way the issue

1:16:05

occurred out in the middle of nothing

1:16:08

where it's easy for profiteers and city

1:16:10

dwellers to ignore the impact of their

1:16:12

choices started him thinking about the idea

1:16:15

of lurking eat evil given free rein

1:16:17

to spread, which I think very obvious

1:16:19

in the movie. I think he nailed

1:16:22

that metaphor. He did. Yeah. That's

1:16:24

crazy around up I think is

1:16:26

Monsanto, but like my grandad. Monsanto.

1:16:28

Discovered at yeah. Yeah, migrant at work

1:16:30

or a called zebra Geigy and like that.

1:16:32

That was what that's who did it here

1:16:35

like in the Us. Yeah, or he was

1:16:37

retired when all the scandal broke. but it

1:16:39

happened while he was there. Are yeah

1:16:41

Gli full seat is the gliders.

1:16:43

They get Glyphosate the a generic

1:16:45

name that's so crazy and apparently

1:16:47

in Argentina it is. haven't specifically

1:16:49

in the last. Decade. Of

1:16:52

for soybean plantations. Source:

1:16:54

Yeah, I mean I, it's cool. It's it's cool

1:16:56

to be included in the movement of success with

1:16:58

album. Yeah, one of the

1:17:01

main traditional folk lore stories

1:17:03

they used. A. When creating

1:17:05

the monsters for this movie is

1:17:07

the Lose Marla, which is basically

1:17:09

a glowing ball of light that

1:17:12

follows and passes from person to

1:17:14

person. kind of like a possession

1:17:16

sir. So he views this movie

1:17:18

as structured like a Greek Tragedy

1:17:20

that begins with our character fleeing

1:17:22

from their own demons, but at

1:17:25

the same time from demons. Actual

1:17:27

demons that are pursuing them. And

1:17:29

it's about how madness can spread,

1:17:31

how bad ideas can spread, and

1:17:33

in fact, and. How you can draw

1:17:35

a parallel with fascism in a way because

1:17:37

it's like the media conceal your head and

1:17:39

make you think things that are not your

1:17:41

best interests. So the idea of killing kind

1:17:43

of the good things in your life in

1:17:46

leaving only the bad things to control us.

1:17:48

That's. kind of the premise of the movie while

1:17:50

was of the writer. Director? Yes, Okay, interesting.

1:17:52

I mean you could see that I

1:17:54

could definitely see that abseiling out for

1:17:57

sure. Yes, Now one of the other

1:17:59

ones other. Corrected that, I drew

1:18:01

some parallels with. Is. The

1:18:03

lobbyists oh man, I would use

1:18:06

of a creature in the folklore

1:18:08

of South America in Brazil is

1:18:10

traditionally a werewolf, but in some

1:18:12

versions Pacific Li In Argentina, Uruguay,

1:18:15

it's a ball of fire or

1:18:17

an unusually large pig. Or.

1:18:20

In human form and said to look

1:18:22

like a normal person except for slightly

1:18:24

pointed ears and yellowish pale. Skin.

1:18:27

Okay but there are rules

1:18:29

for how you can become

1:18:31

a lobby. So men one

1:18:33

being bit too coming into

1:18:35

contact with their blood or

1:18:37

bodily fluids which we see

1:18:39

in this movie three being

1:18:41

a family seven sun sets,

1:18:43

Asean. a lot of holsters actually. Yeah,

1:18:45

yeah. Can save yourself from this

1:18:47

by making one of his elder

1:18:50

brothers his godfather within the Church

1:18:52

of for being the first male

1:18:54

son of a couple was seven

1:18:56

daughters in which case the transformation

1:18:58

takes place on the sun's thirteenth

1:19:00

birthday. okay which yeah you're looks

1:19:02

to be about that Aids is

1:19:04

as also some things have kind

1:19:07

of consider their to land a

1:19:09

rotten. One is definitely the lady

1:19:11

at the beginning sun and would

1:19:13

be about that same age. So

1:19:15

yeah, Sure it's also punishment for

1:19:17

incest, cheating or infidelity, or a

1:19:20

woman having sexual relations with the

1:19:22

priest. but some say that the

1:19:24

creature transforms every day in which

1:19:26

the moon is. it is full

1:19:28

faith much like a werewolf. Others

1:19:30

say that it only curse on

1:19:33

Fridays but either way and all

1:19:35

version that transforms that night usually

1:19:37

attacking travelers and animals the road

1:19:39

so little bit of be rude

1:19:41

from that and lose mala in

1:19:44

a couple other things as well.

1:19:46

Go for those are fun facts lot for. You

1:19:48

for those ones. That foods was like a little

1:19:50

bit about box office. Now I don't have a

1:19:52

budget for this movie. looks for it. could not

1:19:55

find it anywhere on. I would be surprised that

1:19:57

it was a lot. But also like the

1:19:59

film look. The Great: Like: If you told

1:20:01

me that they made us on a shoestring budget

1:20:03

and it was five million dollars, I'd buy it.

1:20:05

But you can also tell me it was a

1:20:08

twenty billion dollar movie and I buy it because

1:20:10

it looks great Like, but I just sit by

1:20:12

the budget anywhere. But the movie did premiere in

1:20:14

the Us at least on October. Six twenty twenty

1:20:16

three. It was about twenty seconds or twenty third

1:20:18

in the theaters the wiki came out, it was

1:20:21

only and six hundred and fifty nine movie theaters.

1:20:23

It wasn't I'm He doesn't nation or least. but

1:20:25

it wasn't a wide nation. What wide release Because

1:20:27

like for it's it's the week it came out.

1:20:29

The Exorcist. Believer was on like almost

1:20:31

four thousand screens. You know, silly A

1:20:34

didn't get that big of a release

1:20:36

Anyway, what do you think? It made

1:20:38

it's opening weekend the week of October

1:20:40

Sixth? Twenty Twenty three. I'm going to

1:20:42

say I think this actually did more on

1:20:44

streaming that it did wide release because I

1:20:46

remember that when people really talked about it

1:20:49

was. When it was streaming giggles shudder

1:20:51

picked as a ominous say like a

1:20:53

million. Yeah I would guess a two mil. Okay

1:20:55

so it it's it is were never was like

1:20:57

twenty seconds he added the first week it came

1:21:00

out so he didn't do for you that well

1:21:02

less than that. A I was sure that two

1:21:04

hundred and five thousand dollars roughly. Yeah guys it

1:21:06

it honestly say it's a lot of zero pretty

1:21:08

quickly was only a theater for of four weeks

1:21:11

it was and six hundred fifty nine theaters in

1:21:13

it's first week. It drops you three hundred and

1:21:15

thirty theaters in a second week and it it

1:21:17

was in less than one hundred theaters with last

1:21:19

two weeks it is didn't get a really like

1:21:22

great box office push. I didn't hear about this

1:21:24

movie until it was already on shudder. Yeah

1:21:26

I do feel like what's it gonna shudder

1:21:28

that's what sort of everyone started hearing about

1:21:30

it which to me makes me think like

1:21:32

if you at fifty million dollars to invest

1:21:34

in this movie getting like a trailer release

1:21:36

that you would see on like you tube

1:21:38

free ads and shit like that he would

1:21:41

have made. Good. Amount of money

1:21:43

in the U of? Yeah? Absolutely. because it

1:21:45

is that quality of movie I should say.

1:21:47

You know? yeah it's not like your normal

1:21:49

produce for shudder had of movies Yes. and

1:21:51

I mean that for like even Netflix on

1:21:53

I try to talk shit about Shudder like

1:21:56

it's better than that. It not just

1:21:58

produced for streaming, it. better

1:22:00

than most. Yeah that's probably the better way

1:22:02

of saying it. Yeah anyway so the total

1:22:04

it made in the theaters and this includes

1:22:07

a little over a million dollars internationally

1:22:09

puts it up at a 1.6 million

1:22:13

dollars worldwide and of course it

1:22:15

was just last year so the dollars are the

1:22:17

same more or less. So yeah 1.6

1:22:19

million dollars would have made in the box office but that's

1:22:21

your box office. So Mike you want to hit us with

1:22:24

Scary Scale? Yeah our Scary Scale is a scale of 1

1:22:26

to 10 out of scary you found the film or one

1:22:28

example is Ghostbusters our 10 example is Texas Chainsaw

1:22:30

Massacre Paige. I'm gonna give this a

1:22:32

six for me. Wow okay

1:22:35

that's I actually thought it was gonna

1:22:37

be higher because I'm gonna give it a six I thought Paige

1:22:39

is gonna give it a little bit a higher rating. No

1:22:41

six is right around where I have

1:22:43

like paranormal activity three. Yeah I'm gonna go

1:22:45

one. That's fair. Is that not your type of

1:22:47

scare? Because

1:22:52

it's a very specific scare type

1:22:54

for me. It is man if this had had jump scares in it

1:22:56

it would have been a 10 for me for sure. So I really

1:22:59

wanted us to watch it because I thought it had jump scares and

1:23:01

Paige's stuff and I thought I was gonna scare both of you and

1:23:03

that would have made it really fun for me but just

1:23:05

getting Paige is hard enough so like I

1:23:08

feel good about it. I mean it still

1:23:10

got we gave it the same rating Mikey.

1:23:12

Like you don't seem scared enough Tom. I

1:23:14

don't think this will stick with me that

1:23:16

much and I think that's largely because there

1:23:18

was no religion in this movie and I

1:23:20

only mean that to say like I grew

1:23:22

up very religious so that's the shit that

1:23:24

like really scares me and sticks with me and

1:23:26

shit and there is no religion in this movie.

1:23:28

That is true or rather I would say

1:23:30

it is divorced from our American

1:23:33

Western religious ideals which I

1:23:35

think does apply to me

1:23:37

as well. However this

1:23:39

will stick with me. I had

1:23:42

nightmares last night of like that

1:23:44

poor little girl under the table.

1:23:46

Yes. Yeah yeah yeah like the

1:23:48

callous brutality of the killings in

1:23:50

this film or what get me?

1:23:52

100%? Yeah man. Alright

1:23:55

Well yeah, that's our scary skill. Yeah Man

1:23:57

Okay, so this week you guys made us

1:23:59

watch when he. Lurk. What are you

1:24:01

making at what's next week? So.

1:24:03

Our next to them because this

1:24:05

is Terrified. Todd. Foreign. Horror

1:24:08

manifests a double whammy for me.

1:24:10

I'm scared and I'm gonna have

1:24:12

to read. There you go. Even

1:24:14

scarier, we're going to go with

1:24:16

the wailing from Twenty sixteen from

1:24:18

South Korea. Okay, I've. Heard of this

1:24:21

movie I don't know anything about early and I've

1:24:23

heard it in the sense of a lot of

1:24:25

people have said you should make the pod watch

1:24:27

the wailing and I'm like why do you think

1:24:30

that Mikey and Page get the Dmz on the

1:24:32

horror verge of the gals like film? Course, it's

1:24:34

me that was those accounts Gus. Stop.

1:24:36

Telling them to make me want stuff on

1:24:38

that access birth or it's never gonna get

1:24:40

some Ikea page with I'm not gonna tell

1:24:43

them out of scare me page we should

1:24:45

This we. Look. For

1:24:47

some a third film and annihilated on our

1:24:49

text messages. Away from Todd sounds good on

1:24:51

a fight them to you specifically Todd I'm

1:24:54

is a movie didn't not scare me my

1:24:56

d but I honestly it was later the

1:24:58

sales a town like a jump scare by

1:25:00

Do it. I don't like Reggie throw a

1:25:02

biology I like wanted to give freedom. Yeah

1:25:05

yeah I didn't throw up so thankfully watching

1:25:07

this movie was dry this time. unlike what

1:25:09

was it the audition where I threw up

1:25:11

on the upload. Yeah, that's right on or

1:25:14

off. During audacious By to make you feel

1:25:16

better, think about her thrown at foot against

1:25:18

that sliding glass door effect is. Not unusual.

1:25:20

the got a food off with laser

1:25:22

wire but out of that have that

1:25:24

luxury of was so happy she's like

1:25:27

doing this insane visas. Like great

1:25:29

a foot so funny answer

1:25:31

it shouldn't be laughing Particular:

1:25:33

Anyway, the wailing? yeah. Oh

1:25:35

yeah, Sit Africa. Rude. Oh and yes

1:25:37

that was the wailing for next week.

1:25:39

So muggy giver of you for us

1:25:41

to read a book be one of

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now? Well well you look wanna let

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me go ahead and read one of

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our spotify comments? The team at our

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as a Claude Siren episode and

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it's from Abs Abs and is

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directly to you page. They say

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to page skip Zack's bees,

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go to Keynes instead. You'll

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thank me a Louisiana and.

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And we we we We have Keynes here, either.

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That's. Why? U S if I was in the South.

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Where. I go for because you do have kids

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and we have that these good lot like a

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little do yeah teams. Also, slats if I I

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just you know I've had it. I wanted the

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new new right. I do have games though. Either

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way as a good for the recommendation I

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will definitely enjoy me some gains again At

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some point my ged of a review for

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us to read yet of lawyer was of

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what is beutler have deserve the newest reviews

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i can see on my little. Thing.

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Is as the heroes we need and these

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trying times thank you so much. It's very

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thought of the Harvard and is without a

1:26:43

doubt the best harm of you recap. So

1:26:45

out there I'm biased but I agree. Odd

1:26:47

title with the see why they have any

1:26:50

well whatever eventually what you're into. Ah it's

1:26:52

hard taser my you have the chemistry most

1:26:54

hosts only dream of. They play off each

1:26:56

other as if they've been friends their whole

1:26:58

lives. It does feel like we have been

1:27:01

at this point. it does feel like we

1:27:03

are siblings At this point of be honest

1:27:05

with I. Sadly, I talk to you

1:27:07

both. More. Than almost every one in

1:27:09

my life. I know that we're all close

1:27:11

because I feel more comfortable fighting with your than

1:27:14

I do. Love example I know and I think

1:27:16

that that's what they mean. Where the chemistry

1:27:18

of them level? where idea exactly. Kid like the

1:27:20

area. Mighty P Word

1:27:22

P Word. That

1:27:25

seriously all it says her you are now

1:27:27

he just okay okay I got my these

1:27:29

humble soul is the glue that holds the

1:27:31

five together. I don't know about that. That's

1:27:33

where people don't know the real you buy

1:27:36

his perspective as a mental health professional and

1:27:38

compassion shown with difficult topics are discuss how

1:27:40

he makes the bad parts of life a

1:27:42

little less bad and that's pretty good. That

1:27:44

is another the three know what a joy

1:27:46

it is was he to them and their

1:27:49

time together. It's like hanging out with your

1:27:51

own. Friends. Obviously they'll have

1:27:53

his lies, but if you could come up with a

1:27:55

D a D campaign that we can all come along.

1:27:57

Come along on. That would be amazing and you

1:27:59

know. You. Could get tired to pass

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out our vomit. Almost

1:28:03

didn't The devil's that I would one hundred percent do

1:28:05

with the A D campaign would bother you as. Yes,

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We have tons of time. Anyway so yeah

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I was this have you seen as.

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like offer him a i wanna call it

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a mobile home or does it a motor

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coach. Yeah until you or I

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just love it. I oh yeah that

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they can sell this is somehow league.

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Thirty Babbel Heard I just saw This has

1:31:22

been like given a lot of quote lumpur

1:31:24

of millions of dollars that had been forgiven

1:31:26

and shit like that and he was like

1:31:28

Harlan Is it Harlan Crow. Bought.

1:31:30

His mom's house for like an exam

1:31:32

price and let his mom's of live

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there? Yes. How. Wilde would it be

1:31:37

if he actually did resign though and take

1:31:39

the deal like of course he won't put

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that would be like some of the amazing

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net be great it would be great as

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well but shudder they get so much for

1:31:47

that video and are John Oliver that he's

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about to the offer? Would you take that

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deal. Million. Dollars a year? Yeah,

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I. Would just use that segment as

1:31:55

augusta starting point when I take future

1:31:57

bribes. Like oh

1:31:59

year. offering a few hundred

1:32:01

thousand John Oliver gave me a milli

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a year and this dope ass motor coach

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of there sorry that was a little

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Wayne joke thank you but Jonathan thank

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you so much for that video and

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the support and we now return you

1:32:17

to another episode of the Patreonical

1:32:21

Welcome back to

1:32:24

the computer stuff that we're doing boom

1:32:27

it's a this is a

1:32:29

Patreonical drawn together season because

1:32:32

it's drawn not Tron DRON

1:32:34

not DRAWN exactly

1:32:36

where should we start Edward has

1:32:38

his computer he is oh I

1:32:40

forgot where I put everybody he's it

1:32:43

was revealed at the end of the last episode

1:32:45

that Mikey everything's a simulation or they have to

1:32:47

Edward who was in Laura's class and has to

1:32:50

go release them all from where they are yeah

1:32:52

yeah yeah so Edward he was able

1:32:55

to like touch a glitch thing and

1:32:57

him and Laura like they jump simulations

1:32:59

Oh Mikey his pen it was his

1:33:02

pen was spinning in his hand and

1:33:04

it was like glowing red sure whatever

1:33:06

we do they're in a new simulation

1:33:09

now yeah yeah perfect he's going around

1:33:12

and he finds Madeline and

1:33:14

sex Galver who is a man wearing

1:33:16

a power glove and vixen with the

1:33:19

laser gun but they're in like a

1:33:21

really peaceful place and they're like he's

1:33:23

like wake up wake up and then like him and

1:33:25

Laura try to get them out and then they hold

1:33:27

like two things in front of them like if you

1:33:29

take the red pill you get

1:33:32

to like wake up to the other simulation if

1:33:34

you take the blue pill you got to like

1:33:36

go back to sleep in the Super Mario World

1:33:38

simulation they take the red pill so they break

1:33:40

out hell yeah and then they keep going around

1:33:42

they find Kate who's just in a

1:33:45

simulation of prison they break her out

1:33:47

Karuna Natasha like

1:33:49

they crack open the world and like in like

1:33:51

Karuna Natasha on their home planet it was they're

1:33:53

all happy and they're holding hands they're like it

1:33:56

was a simulation you're not happy your plan is still dead

1:33:58

come with me and they still Crying again and

1:34:00

go back go back through Every

1:34:03

other episode they're like getting their kids back or having

1:34:05

them ripped away because of the simulation as it's like

1:34:07

this Painful emotional roller coaster

1:34:09

that they're on. Yeah good

1:34:11

for them and then Wes

1:34:14

who's being driven? Who

1:34:17

is just a jet ski with the face

1:34:19

is being ridden by Florida man

1:34:22

bow easy on a on a

1:34:24

beach? and they like stop him

1:34:26

and they're like they both jet ski through and

1:34:28

then Allie

1:34:31

It was is under the sea basically in the

1:34:33

Little Mermaid and they appear and they're like wake

1:34:35

the fuck up You got rid of your

1:34:37

mermaid legs like four weeks ago and she

1:34:40

goes up Jeremy with

1:34:42

his laser eyes is wearing glasses like

1:34:44

Cyclops and Actually,

1:34:46

he's in the movie X-Men and that's

1:34:48

the simulation they're in so that's you'll get him

1:34:50

out of that movie He thinks he

1:34:52

is James Marsden. Yeah,

1:34:54

he's not he's not that good

1:34:57

looking I mean James Marsden is

1:34:59

a good look at me. Yeah, I know I It's

1:35:02

like the bar is set high. You're like you really

1:35:05

think you're James Martin. They're like, oh, no Mr.

1:35:08

Rage bomb is just he's

1:35:10

in the Super Mario World 64 level with

1:35:12

the bomb ops and then

1:35:17

Yes, Mikey I Specifically know exactly what you're talking

1:35:19

about and they come through the painting and they

1:35:21

grab him out and take him out In

1:35:25

that painting Oh, but like while they pulled him out

1:35:27

you hear him go Yeah,

1:35:29

here we go They

1:35:32

find River Moon just that like she was a bottom

1:35:34

rule I think last week She's

1:35:37

now at a tarot card store living her

1:35:39

best life with crystals and stuff and they're

1:35:41

like break all the crystals like none of

1:35:43

it Reel and she's like Gwyneth Paltrow's a

1:35:45

liar Yeah, she's like you

1:35:47

really mess with my chakras and then like they

1:35:49

break her out. I Can't

1:35:52

tell you how shocked right I am right

1:35:54

now Uh-huh, and then the the

1:35:56

evil men's keep showing up right behind them

1:35:59

and then it comes cuts to Isaac and

1:36:01

Evil Matthew torturing Sunzi with

1:36:04

a cattle prod, love it.

1:36:07

And he's crying, or they're

1:36:10

crying, and they're like,

1:36:13

alerts start going off and their controls are

1:36:15

like, oh no, they've escaped their other simulations

1:36:17

and they're back to the same simulation. And

1:36:19

that's the end of the episode. It's like

1:36:21

an inception when they're like coming out of

1:36:23

the dreams. And like every week

1:36:25

I'm expecting Mikey to spin a top.

1:36:28

And like we just slowly push in to

1:36:30

see if it wobbles or not and then

1:36:32

fade to black. That's a really good impression

1:36:35

of that song. Thank you. I

1:36:38

guess we'll see if that happens on another episode

1:36:40

of the

1:36:42

Patreonicalz. That's

1:36:44

gonna be it for us, you guys, on page. I'm Mikey.

1:36:47

And I'm your horror virgin Todd. Keep

1:36:49

it oogie spooky. Yeah, have a great week.

1:36:52

Bye. Bye. That

1:36:55

goat had bald nerves. That

1:36:58

goat's got nards.

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