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327 - Godzilla Minus One

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about that and other things daily. It was

2:18

my dress, my blue dress, with all the

2:20

flowers and rainbows and whatever on it. And

2:22

it was just cut lower than I usually

2:24

do, and I had to put tape on,

2:26

but then the tape didn't really So thankfully,

2:29

the dress was well-made enough that it

2:31

held the girls in. But yeah, he

2:33

was just like, damn! Hey,

2:36

girl, you look damn good tonight. I'm about to go

2:38

up on stage for 20 minutes to tell a bunch of

2:40

lies about how you don't, but I need you to know

2:42

the truth right now. You look damn good, damn!

2:44

And then just walked away. You know when

2:46

someone goes, damn! Like yells, and then gets

2:49

real quiet, that they're about to say something

2:51

sexual. They're like into it. I'm about to

2:53

tell you the truth. Yeah. Hi! Controversial

3:04

statement. This is better than Oppenheimer,

3:06

and I'll stand on that. Yeah,

3:08

of course it's better than Oppenheimer.

3:10

It's a movie. Ha ha

3:12

ha ha ha ha! Thank you for

3:14

tuning into Horror Virgin, I'm Pace. And I'm your Horror

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Virgin Todd, which means I don't like scary movies,

3:18

but you guys make me watch them. And this

3:20

week, Paige made us watch Godzilla

3:23

Motherhood! The Motherhood! The

3:25

Motherhood! All right, when was the first

3:27

time you saw this, Paige? Last night, and I'm

3:30

glad that I watched it last night, because if

3:32

I had watched it this morning, I

3:34

would have come in still crying, because I cried for

3:36

a good 20 to 30 minutes after

3:39

this movie. I have not cried that hard

3:41

in a movie, since everything everywhere all at

3:43

once. And you know what? I'm not ashamed

3:45

of it. Also, we should mention, we originally

3:47

did have a guest for today, but then

3:49

they tested positive for COVID yesterday. Yeah,

3:51

they sent us a voice message, and they were

3:53

like, I can't make it, I have COVID. And

3:56

we were like, that's cool, bro, we can get you on another

3:58

one. believed you

4:02

even if it was just that we'll figure it

4:04

out it's fine yeah like you could

4:06

just reschedule bro you don't have to

4:08

like pretend to have COVID anyway

4:13

so yeah so I watched this last night I

4:15

had wanted to see this in theaters but timing

4:17

was not on my side it was when we

4:19

were traveling a bunch yeah Mikey and I at

4:21

one point we're gonna try and see it in

4:23

Kansas City it didn't work out and so like

4:25

I was glad to finally watch this I wish

4:27

I had seen this in theaters me too

4:30

I am a Toho films Godzilla nerd

4:32

like I know there's American Godzilla I'm

4:34

not as interested in it mainly the

4:36

Japanese Godzilla is what I am interested

4:38

in it's the channel that Jake and

4:40

I keep on the TV most often

4:42

we have like a Samsung TV with

4:44

a bunch of like random channels or

4:46

like Pluto with a bunch of channels

4:48

and there's one that's just Godzilla hell

4:50

yeah like all Kaiju's and usually we

4:52

keep that on because it'll be like

4:54

all the the like 60 70s

4:57

80s Godzilla movies but

4:59

then also it'll do other ones like

5:01

Gamera and like a bunch of other

5:03

Kaiju's and they always show the Mothra

5:05

ones and I love Mothra so

5:07

like I always forget you're a Mothra

5:09

stan page Mothra is canonically

5:11

good and is on the

5:13

side of good and to

5:15

be honest Godzilla is chaotic

5:17

neutral he is not a

5:20

villain but rather Godzilla is

5:22

a representation of man's hubris

5:24

of science and also America

5:26

depending on which era of

5:28

Japanese Godzilla you are watching

5:30

you kind of get both of that in this one

5:32

you do that

5:34

is really good yeah

5:37

so yeah Godzilla is chaotic neutral and Mothra

5:39

is Godzilla's friend and so often Mothra has

5:41

to show up and be like Godzilla you

5:43

gotta stop fucking up Tokyo like we hey

5:46

hear me out bro I know you're upset

5:48

a different city already

5:50

like guy well he

5:52

does in this movie he gets Ginza too

5:55

but so like I love Mothra and

5:57

also like space Godzilla and baby Godzilla

6:00

I- all of it. It gets weird, I fucking

6:02

love it, and I feel like the one thing

6:04

that the Japanese Godzilla movies do so much better

6:06

than the American ones, not that the American ones

6:08

are bad, if you like them, great. There's some

6:10

of Armando Torres' favorite. Yeah, I mean, if you're

6:12

like, into Transformers, that's your

6:14

lane for Godzilla. Yeah. That's

6:17

your lane for Godzilla. The

6:19

Japanese Godzilla films really

6:22

work to try and illustrate

6:24

what Godzilla really means about

6:27

man's condition as a whole.

6:30

And the people stories around

6:32

it. The Godzilla movies are

6:34

never just about, oh, crazy, it's

6:36

Godzilla. It's always like, we had

6:38

an interpersonal problem and now Godzilla

6:40

is also here. And how

6:42

does this also reflect what we're dealing with?

6:45

Yeah. They're much more human stories,

6:47

like emotional stories, whereas

6:49

the American ones are like,

6:51

fast and the furious with Godzilla. Yes.

6:54

Hey, nothing wrong with that, but I

6:57

prefer this kind of Godzilla. No,

6:59

when Godzilla looks over at Mothra at the

7:01

end of that last one, and it's like,

7:03

it's been a long day,

7:06

and Mothra turns off the interstate, and

7:08

then you see Godzilla out the corner

7:10

of the, I don't know, Dodge Durango

7:12

he's driving, like a single tear as

7:14

he rolls the window up and then

7:16

gets launched into space. I don't know.

7:18

They're weird movies. Mothra has

7:20

fairies that announced Mothra's arrival and

7:22

departure, and they're like two

7:24

fairies that they like carry in a cage

7:27

and they're like you have to sing Mothra.

7:29

They're like, Mothra is here, Mothra is

7:31

here, Mothra is great. It's

7:33

awesome. Watch the old Godzilla movies.

7:36

They're amazing. This is

7:38

not only probably the best Godzilla

7:40

movie I've ever seen, hands down.

7:42

The best one I've ever seen, hands down. That's easy

7:45

to say. It might be the

7:47

best movie I saw this year

7:49

so far. Oh, shit. At least.

7:51

I wasn't thinking in those terms, but

7:53

it might be. Yeah, like it's really

7:55

good. It's so good. I was

7:57

like, I was not ready. Me

8:00

either page. I watched it this morning

8:02

and I balled like four or five

8:04

times so many times I was Balling

8:07

in this movie one of my best

8:09

friends Lee. He's the husband in my

8:11

best friend couple Lee and Whitney Uh-huh.

8:13

He loves Godzilla movies. He's like a

8:15

Godzilla stan He's the reason I've been

8:17

to Japan like this made me want to go back to Japan

8:20

hard game same I was like

8:22

somebody to help rebuild Tokyo, but like all

8:24

of this he like loves Japanese

8:26

culture and all that stuff He has always been

8:28

my entry to it. He loves Godzilla So

8:31

like when he was like you've got to

8:33

go see it not only is it the

8:35

best Godzilla movie I've ever seen it Might

8:37

be one of the best movies I've ever

8:39

seen in my mind. I was like Lee

8:41

you just love Godzilla movies Like that's just

8:43

what this is and I was like, I'm

8:45

sure I'll have to watch it for the

8:47

podcast I'll just wait for that. Yes. I

8:49

wish I had seen this Lee. I'm so sorry.

8:52

You were right Yeah, I should have seen this

8:54

in the theaters He saw it three times and

8:56

invited me every time and every time I was

8:58

like I can I understand Why

9:01

you would just go see this multiple

9:03

times? I might watch it again today

9:05

with James. It's in theaters ever again

9:07

I'll go see it like it's

9:09

so good. It's Beautifully

9:12

shot to like yeah, there are

9:14

some shots in this that are

9:16

so good I'm just like I

9:18

don't even know how they fucking did this and

9:21

I can't I can't explain it

9:23

It looks beautiful. Yeah, it's so

9:25

good There are and it's also

9:28

like so well written like there

9:30

are so many like one-liners that

9:32

just hit Emotionally. Oh my

9:35

god, like when he says but my

9:37

war is over. I was like, oh

9:40

It's not it's not and

9:42

then when she and the end when

9:44

she says is your war finally over

9:47

I Weep

9:49

I was crying so hard. It

9:51

was man It's just so good

9:53

when he's trying to convince the mechanic to help and he's

9:56

like I know your war is not over either and you're

9:58

just like yeah The

10:01

war crushed everyone! And

10:03

like to get a miracle you don't stand

10:06

by and wait for one. Like, love that

10:08

line. It's just such

10:10

a well-written movie. Anyway, I owe my friend

10:12

Lee a huge apology because he was absolutely

10:14

right. I should have seen this in theaters.

10:17

And man, I loved it. I really thought

10:19

it was amazing. Now, the only other Godzilla

10:21

movie I've seen all the way through is

10:24

the Matthew Broderick masterpiece Godzilla from

10:26

I think the late 90s. So

10:29

this is easily my favorite Godzilla movie

10:32

that I've seen all the way through.

10:34

But I have a question. Because I

10:36

don't know a lot about Godzilla lore

10:38

or canon or whatever. But

10:42

he seems, he's like the Madonna

10:44

of the monster world. Because he's

10:46

been good, he's been bad, he's

10:48

been an anti-hero. You know, he's

10:50

been a monster that just wants

10:53

to like unleash his anger on

10:55

the public. Sure. Just

10:57

like Madonna, right? So like,

11:01

is this movie a departure from any of

11:03

that? Or is it more like playing in

11:06

just one of those many lanes? Because it

11:08

doesn't feel like he's necessarily evil. No. It

11:11

feels like he's more or less an animal, you know?

11:13

That's how the Japanese Godzilla films view

11:15

Godzilla. If he is an

11:17

animal responding to animal stimuli most

11:20

of the time. They get a

11:22

little weirder as they go when you get into like

11:24

Space Godzilla, Baby Godzilla, Mecha Godzilla, you know. Space

11:26

Godzilla! That's all I hear every time you

11:29

say Space Godzilla and I can't stop thinking

11:31

about it. Space Godzilla and Baby Godzilla

11:33

are the same movie where Space Godzilla has

11:36

crystals on his back. It's very dope. Oh,

11:38

so he's a drug addict? He's got that crystal

11:40

on his back? No, he's fabulous.

11:42

He's fabulous. Wait, did

11:44

this come out like late 80s, early 90s?

11:46

Because then here for it. Earlier. Oh,

11:49

okay. This is like probably mid 80s. Let

11:51

me look it up. Hold on. Let me get a list. I

11:54

do however, now that we're sort of talking

11:56

about this, I really do think I'd like

11:58

those movies that you're talking about where it's

12:00

like like Mothra and Godzilla are friends or

12:02

whatever. I think I'd really enjoy those because

12:04

they sound very campy. I just haven't seen

12:06

them. Yeah, so a lot of them are, so there's

12:09

a bunch that are made in the 50s and 60s. I've

12:13

heard a lot about those. My favorites. Those

12:15

are your favorites? Yes, like that's where Mothra

12:17

versus Godzilla, like the first one is 1964.

12:21

And it looks very 1964. The original

12:23

Godzilla, AKA Gojira, is 1954. And

12:26

that's where we get the original

12:28

look, the original score, the like

12:30

all of it. And that movie

12:32

is a commentary on the use

12:35

of the atomic bomb in Japan.

12:37

Like it's not just a fucking

12:39

monster movie, people. It has layers.

12:41

And then as you get further into

12:44

the like 50s and 60s, you've

12:46

got Mothra versus Godzilla, Ghidorah, who's a

12:48

three-headed dragon, and then Invasion of the

12:50

Astro Monsters. Like there's a ton of

12:53

them. When do we get into space?

12:55

Oh, Mecha Godzilla is 75. There

12:58

are 74 and 75. So

13:00

there's two. Of course. Mecha Godzilla is

13:02

a concept you have to double tap. You gotta

13:04

do two. Of course. Megalon

13:07

is like a giant like bug.

13:09

And then Gigan is like a

13:11

giant like dragon thing. King Ghidorah

13:14

versus Mothra in 1992 is amazing.

13:17

That's probably one of the best ones. Okay. And

13:20

then Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla two is 93. Space

13:23

Godzilla is 94. Okay. So

13:25

yeah. Wild. Yeah, all right, awesome.

13:27

I'll have to check some of these out because I'm

13:30

sure I'd like them based upon your description of them.

13:32

They are campy and weird. But it is

13:34

also always like, Godzilla is still always here

13:36

to teach us a lesson. It's

13:39

kind of weird. And then if you

13:41

get super into Godzilla, you'll eventually get

13:43

into Gamera, who is a

13:46

giant turtle with jetpack legs. I've

13:48

heard of Gamera. Yeah. Yeah. And

13:50

he always has his own theme songs, which

13:53

are my favorite. And they're translated, so it's

13:55

not quite the same. But like the subtitles,

13:57

it's just like, Gamera, he's the best with

13:59

his. pack legs he's gonna

14:01

fuck shit up like basically that

14:03

but with like a choir of

14:06

children singing it and they're just

14:08

like I just

14:10

get you amped man like I fucking

14:12

love gamma let's go I love it but

14:14

no I would say this is not

14:17

a departure okay I would say that

14:19

this is in line with the original

14:21

Godzilla story and lore and

14:23

I would say based upon what

14:25

you're saying also style because yeah

14:28

this is a Godzilla movie but

14:30

it also has a very like

14:32

survivors guilt heavy underlying

14:34

message that like really broke me

14:36

like this movie like built like

14:39

broke me down and built me back up again it was

14:41

it was rough yeah I feel like if

14:43

the original 1954 Gojira is a commentary on

14:45

the American

14:48

impact on Japan following the

14:51

war yeah I feel like

14:53

this movie is a commentary

14:56

on Japan rebuilding itself and

14:58

the overall spirit of Japan

15:00

yeah after the war because

15:03

we deal with so many

15:05

themes in this movie survivors

15:07

guilt is absolutely one of

15:09

them but also the the

15:11

humanity of not always being brave yeah

15:14

and to fully you know get to

15:16

a place of healing you have to

15:18

not only forgive others but forgive yourself

15:21

and like when you stop valuing

15:23

the lives of those around you

15:25

then you have lost the point

15:28

of fighting anyway it's like yeah

15:30

this kind of fighting is only

15:32

worth doing if we're trying to

15:35

save as many people as possible

15:37

and like oh every

15:39

part of it so good so good

15:41

like beautifully done

15:43

oh yeah I also thought it was crazy at

15:46

the end of this movie it reveals that

15:48

you know Noriko like had to get Godzilla to

15:50

keep attacking Tokyo I would

15:53

let go of his survivors

15:55

just fucking mayor they have

15:57

a daughter page they

15:59

already have a daughter. Why was it

16:01

not slam street all the time? They

16:03

had a daughter. I mean because I

16:05

think he had a lot of trauma

16:07

around his parents dying for

16:10

layers that we will get into in the movie.

16:12

Like it made a lot of sense. Yeah but

16:14

they lived together for years

16:16

and she definitely seems

16:18

down. She's definitely down. I

16:20

also think that like him trying

16:22

to go save her in Ginza

16:24

is him saying I'm down too.

16:26

Like I can't believe I waited

16:28

this long. I completely agree

16:31

and I think that that's why the story

16:33

has to like quote kill her in that

16:35

moment. I mean right that's not what happens

16:37

but that's what we think happens right so

16:39

that she can like be taken out of

16:41

the movie because he's learning that lesson. Oh

16:43

and then when he gets the funeral and

16:45

says like how foolish of me

16:47

to think I could ever dream again.

16:49

I was like I was just like

16:51

crying my eyes out because this guy

16:53

is just like honestly it's the kind

16:56

of stuff that if your friend said

16:58

he had been through it you'd be

17:00

like I'm gonna google it because there's

17:02

definitely new stories about it and it

17:04

sounds too outlandish. So like listen Gabby

17:06

google it. This is a joke for just me.

17:11

Yeah. For me the thing that

17:13

made me cry the hardest was

17:17

when because the mechanic comes works

17:19

on the plane they kind of

17:22

like visually hint that there's probably

17:24

an ejector seat but they don't

17:26

confirm it until like he does

17:28

he makes it out and the

17:31

mechanic like his sob of relief

17:33

paid. I mean fully was weeping

17:35

at that point because you see his POV

17:37

he's like looking down on Godzilla. That pretty

17:40

much we can just say he alone killed

17:42

because all the people on the ships did

17:44

was like send him on a little bit

17:46

of a like ride. They

17:48

pretty much put him on the tower

17:51

of terror in water. That's all they

17:53

did to Godzilla. Like that plan failed

17:55

spectacularly and then he's like I'm gonna

17:58

force feed it some bombs. and

18:00

they and he killed it. And blow

18:03

the top of his head off. Yeah,

18:05

so he's like falling down into where

18:07

Godzilla is like just falling apart. Yeah.

18:09

Knowing that that is the most irradiated

18:11

water and he has like months

18:14

to live after that. It is like

18:16

Fukushima ground zero in there and he's

18:18

landing. We don't talk about that. No,

18:20

we just yada yada yada. But in

18:22

Godzilla Mine is 2, they better have

18:25

a cure. Or how about this?

18:27

Because he becomes part Godzilla.

18:29

Hang on, let's talk about it. Lisa

18:32

and Al-Gaib. Is he

18:34

about to become the half Godzilla,

18:36

half man god emperor? Is that

18:39

what's happening? Better than a

18:41

worm god. Ask Leto too, nerds.

18:43

Yes. Sorry. That joke may be

18:45

a little bit above your heads but your kids are gonna love

18:47

it. Your kids are gonna love it? Once they

18:49

finally get through all those dune movies? Yeah, once they

18:51

get through the next few dune movies. For me

18:54

it was because obviously

18:56

that mechanic has held

18:58

resentment against him for

19:00

so long. And like- Oh,

19:02

the forgiveness in that gesture. Yes. Of

19:04

like even providing him the option. Like

19:06

hey, I don't know what your full

19:09

plan is. Yeah. I definitely would understand.

19:11

Yeah. You wanting to die in this

19:13

situation and using that last act as

19:15

a way to save a lot of

19:17

other people. Yeah. Not cool. But I

19:19

think you're worth being around and I've

19:22

seen you literally at what you see

19:24

is your most shameful moments. Right? Yep.

19:26

And I still think you are worth

19:28

having in this world. Yep. So here

19:30

is an ejector seat. If you choose

19:33

to use it, please do. There are those of us

19:35

here that love you. And it is

19:37

like, he doesn't say any of that

19:39

but that is the subtext in that

19:41

very simple, sweet, so emotional

19:43

gesture. Like, they and I are like

19:45

trying not to cry right now. I'm

19:47

full crying. I know. Paige, Paige, I

19:49

don't know how I'm going to get

19:51

through it without crying either. There are

19:54

so many moments like that though. Like

19:56

that is just one of the amazing

19:58

emotional moments this movie builds. And

20:00

like they ain't doing this shit

20:03

in I don't know Kong versus

20:05

Godzilla versus space or whatever Yeah,

20:07

no, they're they're not They're

20:09

not doing this in Godzilla versus Kong

20:11

that's coming out later this year or

20:13

just came out I don't remember whatever

20:15

they're not this this kind of deep

20:18

human condition Conversation not

20:20

happening in those movies,

20:23

but that's why this one is great This

20:26

kind of makes me think of so yesterday

20:28

I had a half day at work and

20:30

so Andre I get it because that and

20:32

I went on a craft adventure Oh nice

20:34

to remainders in Pasadena, which is this fun

20:36

craft store where people donate craft supplies. They

20:39

don't use That's a great name for that store.

20:41

Well done Yeah So you then like shop, you

20:43

know other people stuff that they don't want

20:45

to use and so we went and Andrea

20:47

in the car Was talking about how much

20:49

she loves the movie prey. It's great And

20:51

I feel like this in some ways reminds

20:53

me of prey because prey is a very

20:55

human movie About fucking predator

20:57

and like yeah in this it's like

21:00

we have a very human

21:02

affecting Well-written war

21:04

movie that Godzilla is also

21:07

in yes, so like Yeah,

21:12

so good it really is guys if you haven't seen

21:14

this movie see this movie even we watch Right

21:17

now it's Now

21:20

I I want a thousand sequels to

21:22

this So please go watch this movie like the

21:24

team that made this movie should make movies forever.

21:26

They're great Yeah for every Godzilla

21:28

versus Kong neon pink and blue

21:31

Weirdness we get please give me two

21:33

of these. Oh, but Kong has

21:35

an iron mechanical fist page.

21:38

That's kind of cool Okay, I'm back in

21:40

but like it's not the same as this

21:42

the second you talk about a large

21:45

Shoulder refigure fisting pages like

21:47

fisting pages like here for

21:49

it No, I just like

21:51

I like power gloves. That's like congo's so

21:53

fun My pair I was at a parents

21:56

house and they gave me a whole box of old Michael Crichton

21:58

books that I loved as a high schooler and I I was

22:00

like, do you guys have Congo? And they're like, we have to. And

22:02

it was like the one book they didn't have. And so I have

22:04

to now go find a copy of Congo somewhere. All I'm

22:06

hearing is you tell me the story of the

22:09

time you didn't realize your dad stole a book

22:11

from you. Like why would

22:13

he ever return Congo? I

22:16

see you dad. I

22:18

know you've got Congo. I know it's there.

22:20

Maybe we could just go through this movie scene

22:22

by scene though. Amy mad, Amy want

22:25

Congo. Yes,

22:27

let's go through this brilliant not

22:29

Congo movie seen by scene. Congo

22:31

is brilliant for different reasons, but

22:33

let. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We open on

22:35

a Japanese fighter plane flying towards an

22:37

island. We watch as the landing gear

22:40

deploys. And there is a bomb under

22:42

it that has not been dropped. We

22:44

cut to the landing. The cockpit opens.

22:47

The pilot is breathing heavy, clearly distressed.

22:51

And we get a little chiron that

22:53

says 1945 Odo

22:55

Island airfield, final days of World War II.

22:58

He gets out of the plane. And

23:01

we kind of get a chance to talk with

23:03

him and some of the mechanics where

23:05

the lead mechanic knows this

23:09

pilot from training. And the

23:11

army knows that he's a great shot. He was

23:13

a good marksman and a very talented pilot. And

23:15

he's like, I was glad you were able to

23:18

land it. Let's see what's wrong with it. And

23:20

be grateful for some of the downtime. And so

23:22

the pilot goes to sit. The mechanic approaches him.

23:24

What is probably a couple hours later and is

23:27

like, hey. Yeah, because the other mechanics just told

23:29

that head mechanic, like there's nothing wrong with this plane,

23:31

man. There's nothing wrong with this plane. And

23:33

so the head mechanic comes over and is like,

23:35

hey, there's nothing wrong with your plane. And I

23:37

think you know that. And the

23:40

pilot is like, what are you implying? And he

23:42

just says, I get it. And we

23:44

need more people like you. Because why

23:46

obey an order to quote unquote when

23:49

the outcome is clear. So there are

23:51

two mechanics. The first one's like looking

23:53

down on him. Like you're a coward.

23:55

Fuck you for not doing your duty

23:58

or whatever. And so he. He walks

24:00

away and what the other mechanic says is

24:02

more or less what you just said and

24:04

that is like Yes, we need more people

24:06

like you because it's not at this point.

24:08

We've lost the war more or less, right?

24:11

There's no point in you dying as well,

24:13

right? Yeah, your life has value

24:15

Yeah, basically which is like it's cool to

24:17

see both sides of that immediately But he

24:19

gets a lot of shit right for not

24:21

killing himself for his country here And I

24:23

think that that's fucking bullshit. Yeah, I was

24:25

so mad for him like the adjust the

24:27

seen us of that I hated it well

24:29

and and he gets it for a huge

24:32

portion of the beginning of the movie Yeah

24:34

But I think it's one of the things

24:36

that it is a theme in the movie

24:38

and a changing attitude of everyone as the

24:41

movie goes On yes, it is like, you

24:43

know, everyone is worth something And

24:45

so whenever we can say live we

24:47

can literally say it later Doc says

24:49

it later. Yes He's like the country did

24:52

not treat our lives with respects during the

24:54

war like he literally just says that Yes,

24:56

and that is the changing like at that

24:58

point that is the viewpoint of the movie.

25:01

Yeah, but at the very beginning here It's

25:03

very like why didn't you do your duty?

25:05

It's very unhonorable what you have done. Yeah,

25:08

not kill yourself You were a kamikaze pilot.

25:10

Yeah, you shouldn't we should never see you

25:12

again You should never be able to introduce

25:14

yourself as a former kamikaze pilot, right in

25:16

the eyes of the people in this movie

25:19

Yeah, right. Although it is a weird business

25:21

card to receive but yeah, and there are some

25:23

who survived It did

25:25

happen a couple times to me like the idea of

25:28

literally strapping a bomb to yourself and

25:30

flying into something because of Your

25:33

Emperor is telling you to do like to me

25:35

that's in that is insane I understand that there

25:37

are people who do that and choose that and

25:39

they think it's honorable and awesome I'm glad that

25:41

that's what they chose or whatever like that is

25:44

Truly a foreign concept to me

25:46

and I think in this case and historically

25:48

in the case of a lot of these

25:50

pilots It was maybe not their choice because

25:53

initially that's not what they signed up for. I

25:55

know that's what I'm saying Yeah, and so I

25:57

think with Koichi we're seeing a case of He

26:00

wanted to be a fighter pilot and then

26:02

was conscripted into being a kamikaze pilot in

26:05

the last days of the war and Couldn't

26:07

do it. He just could not do it.

26:09

He's like so human I get

26:11

it I think that everyone is telling

26:13

him that this is the most Unbrave thing

26:15

he's never done and I think this is one

26:18

of the most brave things he ever did right

26:20

because he was like, okay My Emperor went from

26:22

being the head of my government to more or

26:24

less Osama bin Laden and is telling me to

26:26

fly into like structures to blow them up Right

26:29

that person does not respect me or my life.

26:31

I no longer work for that person. You know

26:33

what I'm saying? Yeah I think

26:35

that that is incredibly brave when the

26:37

result of that in a lot of

26:39

countries during this time was you getting

26:42

shot Yes them shooting you like yeah,

26:44

I get it I'm definitely on his side for

26:46

not doing this that being said

26:49

I would have been okay with at the

26:51

end of this movie him making the choice

26:53

to do that Because of what he has

26:55

been through because it was his choice You

26:57

know I'm saying so like yes, I was

27:00

there with him on both sides of that I

27:02

think this is why the mechanic part

27:04

is so affecting Yeah, because he doesn't

27:07

tell him about the ejector seat until

27:09

he hears him basically being like this

27:11

is my choice for my daughter Yeah,

27:13

because I want because I got you paid. I'm

27:15

trying to cry too because this is I want

27:17

her to have a future and like Godzilla

27:21

is blowing up large sections of

27:23

the city with what is essentially

27:25

a mushroom cloud of You know

27:28

radiation so like radiation heat ray

27:30

that I thought was great that it was

27:32

silent instead of the Inception of want in

27:34

this one in the American was as a

27:36

noise a very Specific

27:38

noise the Pacific Rim nuke

27:40

noise probably yes. Yeah, and then

27:43

this one. It's just Silence you're just

27:45

like it's almost more terrifying I like

27:47

it because in my mind it is making

27:49

a sound it is just something that

27:51

we cannot Necessarily hear and the gravity

27:54

of the moment takes it away. You

27:56

know right and I I like that

27:58

I think that I think that that's

28:00

very cool. Yeah, but regardless he's

28:02

now on this island, yeah, feeling

28:04

horrible about himself. Like and the

28:06

actor playing Koichi does such a

28:08

good job because like very little

28:10

is said about his mental state

28:13

right now and you get it,

28:15

you know. You just know that

28:17

he's like embarrassed, he doesn't

28:19

want to be there, he doesn't

28:21

know what he's gonna do because

28:23

if anyone tells the army that

28:26

he abandoned his post, he's probably

28:28

gonna die. Like it's not good.

28:30

Yeah. And then night falls and

28:33

like an air raid siren goes off

28:36

and they're like get the guns, is

28:38

it the Americans, what's happening? They light

28:40

the beach and it's fucking

28:42

Godzilla. Yeah. And a smaller

28:44

Godzilla that's important to note

28:46

because the implication of all

28:49

Godzilla stories is that

28:51

Godzilla was a much smaller animal.

28:53

Yeah. That then has drastically increased

28:55

in size and radioactive

28:57

abilities because of the atomic

29:00

bomb. Yeah and we sort of see

29:02

that. It does it in I think a very

29:04

clever way. Very subtle way, yeah. And probably because

29:06

it would have been very expensive to shoot it

29:09

and to have it in the movie. So

29:11

they sort of do it through news reels

29:13

and stuff but it does get irradiated by

29:15

the Americans later. Yes. But it doesn't it

29:17

doesn't go towards America, it goes back towards

29:19

Japan. Which right I'm sure is where it

29:21

lives because the people of this islands know

29:23

it, they have named it. Yeah. And they

29:25

know that the deep sea fish that he

29:27

sees sort of like the afternoon before it

29:30

shows up, those always show up

29:32

before us. It's one of those yeah like

29:34

warning signs that it's here. And the village

29:36

knows that. Yeah. Like he gets that information

29:39

from people in the village. Yeah. And it's

29:41

creepy too because they're like deep sea fish

29:43

where like their swim bladder is inflated and

29:45

that's why they're at the top. Like that's

29:47

why they're floating up. And they don't have

29:49

eyes because it's so dark down there. It's

29:51

just like yeah it's it's it is weird

29:53

looking. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. It's otherworldly at

29:56

least. Yeah. So as he's

29:58

seen the fish, the aerate siren off,

30:00

they light the beach, it's Godzilla. You

30:02

don't see Godzilla in full light much

30:04

during this scene which I think is

30:07

a very good choice.

30:09

I loved it. Because this is

30:11

legitimately scary. Like this whole scene.

30:13

Man when they first reveal it, when he's

30:15

like turning the light on it and shines

30:18

on it, I jumped. It scared me. Yeah.

30:20

Now that's the kind of scare that really

30:22

gets me typically so that shouldn't surprise anybody

30:24

but it really got me. And the rest

30:26

of this is shot honestly a lot like

30:28

Jurassic Park. They're treating it like a big

30:30

dinosaur because that's sort of the size of

30:32

it. Right? Right. And like of course all

30:34

of the mechanics who do have guns, it's

30:36

a military base but they like run to

30:38

a ditch more or less. Like a foxhole.

30:40

Yeah. And then they like the main mechanic

30:43

guy is like hey go get in your

30:45

plane and shoot it with your 20 millimeter

30:47

like guns because it'll kill it and

30:49

they're like. He makes it there. Koichi makes

30:51

it to the plane. He does. And gets

30:54

it in his sights and can't do it.

30:56

He can't pull the trigger. Yeah he doesn't

30:58

do it. I think he's afraid that he'll start shooting

31:00

it. It won't have an effect and it'll eat him.

31:02

And it'll eat him. Like I get that fear because

31:04

we see him do that a lot. And it's

31:06

honestly we don't we never get confirmation as

31:09

to whether or not this would have killed

31:11

Godzilla. Oh I personally think. Do you think

31:13

it would have? I think it would have

31:15

yeah. Interesting. So I think that's part

31:17

of it. Although it is unsaid so

31:19

like you could take this either way

31:21

right? Sure. Because no one ever like

31:23

makes anybody prove it. But in my

31:25

mind I think the end holds more weight.

31:28

Agreed yeah. And because he didn't address

31:30

his issue at the beginning when he

31:32

first started having the issue it grew

31:34

into this much. I'm talking metaphorically. Sure. It

31:36

grew into this much more bigger monster

31:38

that he had to then go through

31:40

greater lengths to fight and kill. So like

31:42

I think it works with the metaphor

31:44

better if he could have killed it here

31:47

but chose not to. Okay. Because he was

31:49

too afraid to face that fear. But that's

31:51

just me thinking like in therapeutic brain like

31:53

I've just been through so much therapy that

31:56

I know had I addressed my issues with

31:58

like survivor's guilt closer to life. Like it

32:00

happening. I probably wouldn't have had a lot

32:02

of issues I have along the way, you

32:05

know? I mean, isn't that true for

32:07

anybody? Yes, absolutely. Go to therapy, go to therapy

32:09

now. The best day to start therapy is today. But

32:11

he freaks out, he isn't fire.

32:13

Godzilla attacks the beach and his

32:16

plane. He falls to

32:18

the beach. He wakes up the

32:20

next morning to the only survivor

32:22

being that head mechanic. The one

32:24

that basically said, I understand why

32:26

you did what you did, but

32:29

now he's like, you might just

32:31

be a coward. Yeah. Like, hard,

32:34

because he's lining up the dead

32:36

bodies of all of his friends.

32:38

They're the only survivors. I mean,

32:40

Godzilla the night before, when he was

32:42

attacking, was like, he was treating these like

32:44

mechanics like he was a dad and they

32:46

were a newborn and he was just like

32:49

snatching them up by the midsection and throwing

32:51

them into the night. Yeah. Like he was

32:53

just like throwing them up in the air.

32:55

Yes. It was crazy. So like all

32:58

of their friends or all of the main

33:00

mechanics friends are dead. And so he has

33:02

just spent probably about a day collecting their

33:05

bodies, ready for burial, all of that stuff.

33:07

And then the guy who probably could have

33:09

killed Godzilla when he got in his plane,

33:11

didn't, walked up. He's pretty pissed at

33:13

him. Oh, yeah. Like he does kind

33:16

of go off. He goes off on

33:18

it. They end up on a rescue boat

33:20

full of soldiers. And what we will find

33:22

out is that the Japanese army government

33:25

has told everyone that the

33:27

Americans hit the base, not

33:29

Godzilla. So they are on a

33:31

boat with a lot of other soldiers rescued

33:34

from a lot of other islands because

33:36

in the last days of the war,

33:38

America went basically island hopping to take out

33:40

their bases. That's why Pearl Harbor happened.

33:42

We had basically like eliminated all but

33:44

one option at that point. I

33:46

think it's really interesting that this movie chooses

33:48

to go the route of like, we did

33:50

not drop the A-bomb on Japan. We dropped

33:52

like a lot of other bombs on Japan,

33:55

it seems like. No, we did. Did we?

33:57

It looked like it was the A-bomb. I

33:59

thought it was. just like a fire bomb

34:01

like we would we like fire bomb the

34:03

area like we did it like in Vietnam

34:06

we did both we definitely yeah no

34:08

it could have been both you just don't see the

34:10

mushroom cloud and stuff you see it briefly in the

34:12

news reel but that's the only time do you okay

34:14

I must have missed that but also we're not in

34:17

either of the cities where it happened

34:19

we're not in Hiroshima or Nagasaki true

34:21

so we don't necessarily see it we

34:23

do know Tokyo had been aggressively fire

34:25

bomb oh yeah like raised almost to

34:27

the ground which we do see but

34:30

the only reason I know we dropped the

34:32

a-bomb is because that's how Godzilla grows like

34:34

in canonically that is what happens that's not

34:37

what happens in this movie though it's

34:39

bikini atoll he like oh no you're

34:41

right yes yeah he goes to bikini atoll

34:43

or God I don't know if Godzilla is male

34:45

or female but whatever like Godzilla goes to bikini

34:47

atoll where yeah or just happens to be about

34:49

around that test nuclear explosion and that's

34:51

what irradiates him but like Paige you

34:53

might be right though I might have

34:55

if there's footage of a mushroom cloud

34:57

pre heat blast then there then it

34:59

definitely did happen I just missed that

35:02

there is like it's part

35:04

of just the general news

35:06

reel and like in other

35:08

canonical Godzilla stories bikini atoll

35:10

does factor in so this

35:12

is something that they actually

35:14

used for some of the

35:16

American Godzilla the monarch history

35:18

of monsters where in monarch

35:20

history of monsters they have

35:22

discovered multiple kaijus Godzilla

35:24

just being one of them and

35:26

they can track them by raises

35:28

in radiation and they think they're

35:31

all essentially caused by the atomic

35:33

bomb like they like the atomic bomb

35:35

happened it awoke all of these things

35:38

and now we're dealing with them right

35:40

and in that one they try to

35:42

blow it up they try to blow

35:44

up Godzilla with a nuke in Bikini

35:46

atoll and he survives yeah well I

35:48

mean he survives this too so yeah he's right

35:50

this too yeah I would say any one of

35:53

those makes sense I think we still did drop

35:55

the bomb in this universe but then we also

35:57

tried to nuke him in Bikini atoll that makes

35:59

them yeah Or the Americans tried to

36:01

nuke him. Or he just happened to be

36:03

around when that nuke went off. And that's

36:05

what irradiated it. Yeah, I think the Americans

36:08

tried to nuke him. I mean, yeah,

36:10

we don't really get any communication from

36:12

America in this movie that isn't, sorry,

36:14

we're super busy with the Russians so

36:16

we can't help you with your monster

36:19

problem. So sorry that this literal revelation

36:21

that changes everything we thought we knew

36:23

about the world is not bearing

36:25

any attention from us at all. Yeah.

36:27

Signed America. Signed America. Signed

36:29

America. Signed America. I

36:32

do like because for me- Blame Stalin.

36:35

For me, this gives us a

36:37

purely Japanese Godzilla movie. Which I

36:39

like. I'm here for it. I

36:41

like a lot. My headcanon of

36:43

what happened based on my Godzilla

36:45

knowledge and what we've seen in

36:47

the film. I believe that following

36:49

the war, which ends very soon

36:51

after this initial Godzilla attack that

36:53

we saw, America is made aware

36:56

of Godzilla and takes credit for

36:58

the attack to not freak

37:00

people out about the existence of Godzilla

37:02

but wants to study Godzilla as a

37:04

weapon. Yeah. That's how America do.

37:06

You know, Monarch Project shit. Well,

37:09

and that's Monarch Project is the American

37:11

side of the Godzilla story. And so

37:13

that's very much what they're doing. And

37:15

so that's where our explosion of Bikini

37:17

A-Tole comes in. And maybe that's the

37:19

one like wink and nod in this

37:21

movie of like, you know what happened.

37:23

And then the events of this

37:26

movie progress. Yeah. That's where I think

37:28

I will settle on my headcanon. I

37:30

mean, I think that works. Yeah. Yeah.

37:33

Anyway, we cut to a giant

37:35

boat of soldiers rescued from all the other island

37:37

bases that the Americans have attacked. Yeah. And

37:39

the mechanic brushes

37:41

by him and hands him a

37:44

packet. And we will find out

37:46

later that that packet is all

37:48

of these photos and letters from

37:50

the other mechanics families. Yeah. That

37:52

he's basically like, their death

37:54

is on your hands. This is

37:56

your responsibility now. They all wanted to get back

37:59

to their families. families, you

38:01

made sure they couldn't because you

38:03

wouldn't shoot Godzilla and now this

38:06

should weigh on you. Which again,

38:08

I'm like it is also Godzilla.

38:10

Like there are limits to what

38:12

you as one person can do

38:14

in the face of Godzilla. I

38:17

do think that like, and I'm laughing, but

38:19

I do mean this, like if a wild

38:22

animal gets loose and kills

38:24

people, it's not necessarily like someone's fault.

38:26

You know, it's just that animal doing

38:28

what they're doing. I mean, unless

38:30

they were irradiating that animal. Well, I

38:32

mean, okay, okay, but he was just...

38:35

But that's not the case at this

38:37

point. Yeah, no, but that's also what

38:39

I love is that this movie as

38:42

it goes, takes great pains to address

38:44

the idea that I know everyone expects

38:46

they will be brave in this moment,

38:48

but it is human to

38:50

be scared. Yes. And that's

38:53

okay. And like that I think is one

38:55

of my favorite parts of the movie because

38:57

it's basically a movie being like, yeah,

38:59

no, I know that if this was, you

39:01

know, Independence Day, everyone wants to think they're

39:03

Randy Quaid and they're going to fly up

39:05

into the spaceship. Right. But

39:07

sometimes you're just a person

39:09

staring up at a giant

39:12

irradiated lizard asking it who's

39:14

chasing it. Sorry. Who's

39:16

chasing you Godzilla? This honestly we

39:18

could have done on either podcast and I'll just say

39:20

that because it is also a love

39:22

story. Such a good love story. I

39:25

was thinking the same to be honest as

39:27

I was watching it. I also, as I

39:29

was watching this, it made me really want

39:31

to do everything everywhere all at once on

39:33

romance in the pod because that also phenomenal

39:35

and a great love story. I still haven't watched it because

39:38

I'm afraid it will make me cry a lot. It

39:40

will make you cry. Yeah. This movie made me

39:42

cry a lot and I loved it Paige. So if you

39:44

want to do it, let's do it. Yeah,

39:47

no, we will absolutely do it and I'll

39:49

find a good guest for it. But it

39:51

was that was Andrea, Gazzetta and I in

39:53

the movie. We saw it together in theaters

39:56

just holding hands and sobbing as

39:58

like he's like. hey in

40:00

another life I would have been happy just doing laundry and

40:02

taxes with you and you're just like oh

40:05

god love is real and it

40:07

crosses time like you know this

40:09

is way better than cloud atlas

40:11

it's so much better than cloud

40:13

atlas dude like cloud atlas could

40:15

never anyway so

40:17

he arrives back in Tokyo December

40:20

1945 Tokyo is raised

40:22

to the ground in Rubbles

40:25

Rubble and he goes back to his

40:27

old neighborhood and runs into

40:29

his old neighbor who has lost

40:32

her entire family her husband her

40:34

children her home everything

40:36

and she's like what are you doing here

40:39

you were a kamikaze pilot and if you

40:41

had done what you were supposed to do

40:43

my children wouldn't have died i think that's

40:45

a lot to put on a person and

40:48

i don't think that's an accurate retelling of

40:50

what happened definitely however she is in her

40:52

feels oh yeah and like she is in

40:55

grief she just lost her whole family

40:57

like she is lashing out in

40:59

a i think inappropriate way but

41:01

she also fully get it yeah

41:04

and i feel bad for her

41:06

and she is we see over

41:08

the course of this movie a

41:10

good person yes so like we

41:12

do because this movie makes every

41:14

character a full character yeah like

41:16

three and four d characters we

41:18

see this as a like

41:20

complex emotional response to heavy trauma

41:23

yeah instead of oh isn't this

41:25

lady just a bitch no she

41:27

has her own arc exactly yeah every

41:29

single character has an arc yeah that's

41:31

what i was every single one that's

41:33

what i was getting at so because we

41:36

get her whole story like we get the

41:38

opportunity to see that she is not a

41:40

bad person no even though she seems like

41:42

it in this scene she is just going

41:44

through so much grief man she's literally walking

41:46

through her neighborhood all of her family is

41:48

dead like i get it and all

41:50

of her neighbors yes everyone she's ever known

41:53

and loved yeah because we will find out

41:55

she lives across the path or whatever the

41:57

street or whatever they're all kind of close

42:00

from Koichi and his family and

42:02

she tells him, your parents are

42:05

dead, this whole place was on

42:07

fire, there is nothing left, there's

42:10

nothing left. Paige, when he gets

42:12

to his house and is reading

42:14

the letter that they sent him that says,

42:17

stay alive for us. Yes.

42:19

And then you realize that he

42:22

didn't do his duty because he

42:24

was honoring his parents request to

42:26

stay alive for them and

42:29

they fucking died on

42:31

his way home. Like that is

42:33

heart, I cried, I cried, I

42:35

couldn't help it, it's heartbreaking. Heartbreaking,

42:38

we cut to him in the marketplace the

42:40

next day, cause he's like slowly working through

42:42

the rubble of his home and trying to

42:44

rebuild and a woman who

42:47

they're accusing her of being a thief, she

42:49

runs through, she presses a package into his

42:51

arms as she continues to

42:53

run, we reveal that package is the cutest

42:55

baby you have ever seen in your entire

42:58

life. It is a very adorable baby, but if

43:00

someone handed me a baby and ran away, I would

43:02

be very scared. Like I would be like, what is

43:04

happening? Why was this literal person

43:06

thrown into my arms? Why did that person

43:08

who threw that person into my arms run

43:11

off? I have a million questions and the

43:13

town is in rubble so there's no one

43:15

to help me. I have no

43:17

idea. And so he just sits down with the baby and

43:19

kind of waits for her to come back, she doesn't come

43:21

back, she doesn't come back. He goes to abandon the baby

43:23

and he's like, so he

43:25

takes the baby and as he walks away,

43:28

she pops out and is like, thank you

43:30

for not abandoning her basically. And he's like,

43:32

why didn't you come? And she's like, I

43:34

had to wait till they wouldn't see me.

43:36

Like I've been trying to care for her

43:38

but my whole family's dead. And he's like,

43:41

well, who's the father? And she's like, I

43:43

don't know. Like literally another woman who was

43:45

about to die handed me this

43:47

baby. And begged me to take

43:49

care of it. And begged me to

43:52

take her. It is literally the saddest

43:54

backstory you've ever heard for a brand

43:56

new character 20 minutes into a movie.

43:58

It's terrible. It's terrible. Because they

44:00

are essentially both orphans because

44:02

Noriko is probably 19. She's

44:06

young. I mean they're both young.

44:08

She's almost a kid and she is

44:10

now a mom and he is

44:13

now essentially a dad because he's just a

44:15

good guy. I would

44:17

say that in this first interaction, those

44:20

are some real green flags. She

44:22

throws her child more or less into

44:24

his arms and he's like, okay, I'll

44:26

make sure this child's safe. And

44:28

she's like, let's do this. Let's

44:31

live together for years and

44:33

never, even though there's immense

44:35

sexual chemistry, act on it.

44:37

Let's never act on it until I

44:40

die and then you find me after

44:42

you kill the monster and then I'm

44:44

assuming they just go at it for

44:46

hours. Well I think he's got to wait

44:48

till she gets out of the hospital but... Disagree! It

44:51

seemed like a private room. I'm just saying

44:53

if she's down, they do have opportunities. Sure,

44:55

sure. Yeah, of course. She actually

44:58

is like, okay, you and the baby's name

45:00

is Akiko, so it's Noriko and Akiko. He's

45:03

like, you can stay for the night and

45:05

then we'll figure out something later. Cut

45:07

to a year, or actually I guess they're

45:10

like the next day or so and she's

45:12

been trying to feed the baby whatever she

45:14

can find and the neighbor comes over and

45:16

is like... Yeah, this is the same lady

45:18

who was like, you should have died, you're

45:20

the reason my family's dead. Yes. And

45:23

she comes over and helps them. And

45:25

she helps them and gives them like

45:27

her rations that she would have fed

45:30

her babies but they are no longer.

45:32

Yeah, and she's like, use this for

45:34

the baby. Don't use this for yourself.

45:36

You can eat anything. It can only

45:38

eat this... Yes. ...by. I

45:41

still am like really upset with you

45:43

even though I do understand it's probably

45:45

misplaced grief but it's only been a

45:48

day. Right. Wait for a year

45:50

and then I'll be inexplicably a much nicer

45:52

character to you and then Todd will realize,

45:54

oh it's been a year. She's like worked

45:56

through her grief some. It hasn't been

45:58

quite here. 1946 is

46:00

the next time we see them. So it's only

46:02

been like five months or whatever in December to

46:04

March. Okay, okay But still I mean

46:06

she progressively gets yeah, she progressively becomes

46:09

a member of the family. Honestly a

46:11

hundred percent She's their daycare during

46:13

the day. Yeah, but yeah, so

46:15

it's raining the baby's alive and

46:17

he's trying to find

46:19

work the only work he finds is essentially

46:22

he they go on these two boats with

46:24

a line between them and cut

46:27

sea mines loose and then he shoots

46:29

and explodes the sea mines and

46:31

like that's the job and that's why

46:33

it pays well because It's

46:35

super dangerous. Yeah, I mean

46:38

I actually so when he said what it

46:40

was at first I like in my mind

46:42

thought he was gonna be like scuba diving

46:44

and like Yeah, and then like the fucking

46:46

hurt locker and then when they actually show

46:48

what he's doing I'm like, this is way

46:50

smarter. Of course. She would just blow them

46:52

up. Like what was I thinking? Yeah, it's

46:55

still dangerous though. Like when he's explaining it

46:57

to Noriko He's like the reason that pays

46:59

well The reason there's a 400 yen sign-on

47:01

bonus is because or 4,000 yen

47:04

or whatever it was. It's 3,000. Yeah Yeah,

47:06

whatever enough to like a feed them in the

47:08

baby, right? Like yeah, he feels like he's obligated

47:10

because he now has a family to provide for

47:12

but like he does explain like it is a

47:14

risky Job and she's like you can't do this.

47:17

You know, we need you. Yeah, I forbid you

47:19

to die Yes, it's more or less what she

47:21

says. Yeah Yes, but the next few

47:23

scenes we kind of go through how the

47:25

boats work We meet the boat crew because

47:28

this new crew Noda the

47:30

kid and doc are gonna become

47:32

his new best friends. They're like

47:34

his chosen family at this point Yes,

47:37

they build a chosen family and it's incredibly

47:39

sweet and you end up loving all of

47:41

them But they there's

47:43

60,000 mines still out there and

47:45

they gotta you know, go through and detonate

47:47

them all So they're like, yeah, they are

47:50

a crew a tight-knit crew We find out

47:52

the doc used to be essentially like a

47:54

munitions expert with the Japanese Navy Yeah,

47:56

he like built munitions more or less like

47:58

different or even like design them I

48:00

think so it was like yeah he was like

48:02

a bomb maker more or less or you know

48:04

whatever yeah he was a bomb maker the kid

48:06

was too young to go to war so he never went

48:09

to war and man does he put off

48:11

like I should have been at war vibes

48:13

like he really is I really liked what

48:15

they did with his character I did

48:18

too it made me cry so

48:20

hard when Captain Noda because Captain Noda is

48:22

the other one who was a former Navy

48:24

captain who has survived and is like the

48:26

war was fucked up so

48:28

when he says it is a good thing

48:31

to have never been to war yeah what

48:33

I wrote it down because I was like this is

48:35

such a good line but like not being part of

48:37

the war is something to be grateful for and I

48:41

don't think that message gets through to him

48:43

no but like literally in later later in

48:45

that same scene like he says that and

48:48

then he and Doc start walking away yeah

48:50

and then the kid starts yelling at them

48:52

and he's like we're leaving the country to

48:54

you like your job is to like live

48:58

like they are now crying again but like it

49:00

is very much

49:04

like you idiot we need you to

49:06

live so you can run this we

49:08

are dying for you they don't end

49:10

up dying because of what a comichi

49:12

does but like they fully I think

49:14

thought they were dying and doing this

49:16

yeah anyway like it's so we're not

49:18

even there yet but like it's so

49:20

sad and he just doesn't get it

49:22

so he like whatever we'll get there

49:24

in a second whatever anyway they're

49:26

shooting and blowing up the minds and

49:29

honestly it looks fun as

49:31

shit I would say it is a

49:33

dangerous job would I enjoy some parts of

49:35

it yes I would please let me have

49:37

this job like I just want

49:40

to shoot at things and make them explode in a

49:42

place that doesn't seem to hurt anybody except Godzilla and

49:44

I'm okay with that yeah I can live with that

49:46

I can live with that but he is

49:48

having PTSD nightmares like he's back

49:51

on the island with Godzilla he

49:53

is constantly grieving and feeling guilty

49:56

over the other men who died

49:58

yeah and he Only

50:00

explains parts of it to Noriko

50:03

not everything so she's not fully

50:05

she doesn't fully understand what happened

50:07

She will eventually we cut

50:09

to a brief cutaway July

50:13

1946 now about six to seven months

50:15

from him coming home Yeah, and it

50:17

is bikini atoll and its operation crossroads.

50:19

Yeah in real history It's

50:21

nuclear tests, but in Godzilla

50:24

history, it is an attempt to blow up

50:26

Godzilla, which may have irradiated him further Yeah,

50:28

I think we get it as a press release.

50:31

Well, not yet. That's next because

50:33

this is just the cutaway Yeah,

50:35

okay, that's fair But like the story that

50:38

they're told is it's just a nuclear test,

50:40

right? But I do think that you're right

50:42

obviously and I think that America is like

50:44

cool We didn't kill it, but it

50:46

went back towards Japan. So now it's their problem On

50:51

the former thickums Stalin in

50:53

Russia. Yeah, like we got Mustaches

50:56

to handle right now. Thank you

50:58

because they're getting unruly in Moscow

51:00

Yes, so we cut to

51:03

our little chosen family and now Akiko is

51:05

like a toddler He has

51:07

a job Noriko is getting a job. They're

51:09

rebuilding their house. They have like a little

51:12

housewarming I refuse to believe that

51:14

she has lived in his house

51:16

for Two years three

51:18

years a year and they haven't kissed

51:20

they haven't like held hands like what

51:23

is half Clear sexual

51:25

chemistry between the two of them there is

51:27

and it's only been like a year at this

51:29

point They have a daughter page it well in

51:31

this scene and this broke my heart because he

51:34

very clearly is like I'm not her father I

51:36

know I was so mad at him.

51:39

I'm like bro realize where you are

51:41

What is happening and what that child

51:43

needs in this moment? Yes, but like

51:45

he's so frozen in his own grief

51:47

He can't see past his own nose.

51:49

Like I understand Yeah, why he does

51:51

what he does here and I

51:53

think years after this movie. having gone through

51:56

therapy He looks back on this and very

51:58

much regressive. Sure. I Understand why. He said

52:00

what he said of the it more or less

52:02

was like I'm not her dad. I have told

52:04

her that many times as you like yeah dad

52:07

and he's like I'm not your dad I've told

52:09

you many times you going to lie know any

52:11

be willing. To leave a tiny,

52:13

tiny child. But also Noriko goes

52:15

in as and of like doing the dishes

52:18

are like cleaning up or get ever because

52:20

they just have like they're like entertaining his

52:22

work friends more or less for dinner. Yeah.

52:24

It's it's. like a house warming. Party Yeah it.

52:27

And they're all like, why would you say

52:29

that to her un. Man who likes of

52:31

a brought you together as a family. Yeah

52:33

so like it doesn't matter whether or not

52:36

you the you know pushed it out like

52:38

you're a family be you live as a

52:40

family at all. So like. See lot

52:42

like Noriko loves loves you go on

52:44

the early she wants or she is

52:46

begging for it like let go of

52:48

your grief. I understand your sad your

52:50

parents are dead but like beautiful woman

52:52

live in your house you you have

52:54

a daughter together more or less. Yeah

52:57

maybe like take a run at a

52:59

secret goes by may. Have yet to see

53:01

what happens. you will N n So literally

53:03

the very next shot is March Nineteen, Forty

53:05

seven. So a few months later and this

53:07

is where she's come home. And she's like

53:10

I got a desk job. A sudden I

53:12

started bringing money and really mean Akiko Find

53:14

a way of a place to live. Because.

53:16

If we don't, you'll never find a wife and

53:19

move on with your life. Is clearly you're not

53:21

interested in this. You'll never get married yes

53:23

and as the I think in this is

53:25

on every level from every warm it's very

53:27

good see is very much delivering these line.

53:30

With. That the tone of like.

53:32

A friend like you'll never get married and

53:34

west or dating or whatever but you could

53:37

see on her face she is like very

53:39

hurt my host saying this yet like she

53:41

wants to be the person that he wants

53:43

to date and mayor he likes. and

53:45

it his face of like what

53:48

know or it's like oh I

53:50

guess I fully thinks. Of see

53:52

is what the bully birds this like decision

53:54

yet as she is like okay he either

53:57

a is so sad he had a he

53:59

can't move. That and can't really be

54:01

with anybody for and I need to move

54:03

on because I need to find someone and

54:05

I'm ready for that or she was like

54:07

I need a spike shock his system because

54:09

I know he loves me but he so

54:11

frozen industries that he can't recognize that the

54:13

and I think that's ostensibly what happens but

54:15

I do think that this is somewhat premeditated

54:17

and I mean that the sense of like

54:19

she didn't want to do this initially but

54:21

like had to do something you. Know. Now

54:23

she has to do some bags. Yeah

54:25

yeah, I'm like okay Collin Bridge or

54:28

Ten Banalities. Learned a whole time when

54:30

we didn't. come on. Ah and she's

54:32

already made like plans with the neighbors

54:34

to me go at to basically have

54:37

her and watch a T go during

54:39

the day. So like. She.

54:41

Doesn't plan to leave leave like

54:43

she's gonna live right there probably

54:46

are they have like this ecosystem,

54:48

know I mean this, they? Clearly

54:50

commute I got the idea or the impression

54:52

that we're see is working is somewhere else

54:54

in Tokyo. lets you been to Tokyo, pays

54:56

like it'll be a or city and she

54:59

just gets on like the subway is a

55:01

neighborhood. Yeah yeah so am I might. It

55:03

was like maybe across town, which guys could

55:05

be like an hour away in Tokyo like

55:07

that might be a pretty far like commute

55:09

but in my mind she was commuting every

55:11

day. So the neighbor yeah who is remember

55:13

don't like terrible lady from before in the

55:16

very beginning who was like you should have

55:18

died as a my kids who is now.

55:20

Like the ants. Super like takes curiosity old

55:22

season to watch the kids during the day

55:24

and she's gonna go to work. and he's

55:26

gonna go to work. you know? Yeah. Anyway,

55:28

Zero Mail is are essentially may I'm just

55:31

saying. She's. Down is he needs

55:33

to like. Just take her on a date, see where things

55:35

go battle and say. But. He can't his wars

55:37

not over so. So true. This

55:39

is where we get that. the only

55:41

English in the movie was a i

55:44

thought was very ugly words the U

55:46

S microfilm. yeah of like hey there's

55:48

an unknown animal and like there was

55:50

that nuclear tests to read average but

55:52

something's destroying the submarines. we don't know

55:54

what it is. Cut to May Nineteen

55:56

Forty Seven ah near the Ago. So

55:59

our island. This giant

56:01

boat is destroyed.

56:05

It's fully Godzilla. I

56:07

do love that they get dispatched by the government

56:10

because they are the people who go blow up

56:12

the mines. They get dispatched to go check out

56:14

what the fuck happened to this boat because it

56:16

clearly wasn't blown up by a mine. And they

56:18

get there and they're like, that definitely looks animal.

56:21

But I don't know of a whale that does

56:23

that. No whale jumps out

56:25

of the water, breaches out and then

56:27

lands on a cruiser until it destroys

56:29

it. Well, and this is where, because he's

56:31

like, oh, this is the Godzilla that

56:34

I saw on Odo Island. They're like, I

56:36

thought the Americans did Odo Island. He's

56:38

like, no, no. No, that was fully

56:40

a dinosaur. Yeah, well, and

56:42

this is where he has to admit to

56:44

them that he was a Kamikaze pilot that

56:47

survived. And Doc and Noda immediately accepted and

56:49

understand. Exactly. And Kit is like, what do

56:51

you mean you survived? Like, what do you

56:53

mean? Like, not the glory. And everyone else

56:56

is like, you don't fucking get it, man.

56:58

Like, you don't understand. Everyone's like, this

57:00

fucking kid's an idiot. But he

57:02

is, it is played like. Inexperienced.

57:04

Yes, I think that. Because everyone

57:06

who actually has been at war

57:08

is like, bro, trust me. You

57:12

don't want that. You don't want this. You're

57:14

like, calm down, Alexander Hamilton, like in the

57:16

first 10 minutes of that musical. But

57:18

they're basically like, look, we don't stand

57:20

a chance. We can't, like if that

57:22

boat can't fight Godzilla, we can't fight

57:25

Godzilla. Because they're in a wooden boat,

57:27

remember, because they're like, the American minds are magnetized.

57:29

So they couldn't even be in like a metal

57:31

boat. Like if Godzilla sneezed within like a meter

57:33

of them, they would be blown to dust. Yes.

57:37

They see like way more dead fish

57:39

and they're like, okay, so if we

57:41

get a couple of mines, we

57:43

can maybe drop them. And we'll

57:45

see if that hurts it. There's

57:47

no other boat. Supposedly this other

57:50

boat's gonna come and relieve them.

57:52

And they're just there to stall. But the

57:54

other boat, you know, taking a long time.

57:56

So it's the two boats with the line

57:58

between them. And that other boat has

58:01

a crew just like this one, we just haven't met

58:03

them, because we're on this boat. So like,

58:05

they're both around and they're

58:07

like, alright, first one of us to kill

58:09

them wins. Paige when... I

58:12

forget, oh no, it's the captain, it's

58:14

the guy who's like driving the boat.

58:16

Yeah. During this scene, it's like everything

58:19

he says is the wrong

58:21

thing to say in that

58:23

moment. Yeah. Because like, he's

58:26

like, alright, we'll just like scavenge our

58:28

own like weapons because they're gonna like

58:30

dig up some mines and we'll use

58:32

those on Godzilla. And he's

58:34

like, cool, it'll be fine. And

58:36

then the other boat that's gonna help them

58:39

drag the cord that cuts the mines and

58:41

they can collect them literally gets

58:43

lifted out of the water in

58:45

his mouth. Oh yeah. It

58:47

gets like tossed, like it's just not even

58:50

a boat anymore. Yeah. And

58:52

they're like... Incident. Oh fuck. So

58:55

like, it's not like what we thought it was gonna be. Yeah. It's

58:57

like a million times worse. And this chase

59:00

sequence... Oh, when they're... Because

59:02

they dropped the first mine and it doesn't

59:05

do anything because he like

59:07

regenerates. So this is another one of

59:09

the things that the captain says that I think is like

59:11

the absolute wrong thing. Because they

59:13

drop a mine, it blows up, we see

59:15

like it comes back through the smoke of

59:17

the mine or whatever. And he goes,

59:19

is it dead? And as it revealed

59:21

it, I wanted Klamisha to just be like, no,

59:24

but it's pissed. Yeah, yeah, no. But

59:27

that's what would happen in an American movie. I

59:29

know. Instead of this beautifully

59:31

done Japanese movie where everyone is just like,

59:34

fuck! Oh my god! No! Oh

59:37

my god! You're like just here. But at first

59:39

he's like, is it dead? And they're like, no,

59:41

it's right behind us. And then they do it

59:43

again and they're like, did it work? And like,

59:46

no, stop asking these kinds of questions. Because when

59:48

we drop a mine and you ask something like

59:50

that, it brings it back to life. So stop

59:52

it. Yeah, Stop it. And It

59:55

regenerates. But Now everyone's hurt. My

59:57

Kaweezy has like a bloody head

59:59

wound. The. Kid had broken

1:00:01

his arm like they're all hurt

1:00:03

and who should show up. But

1:00:06

the giant warship launching missiles and

1:00:08

they're like oh, say can yeah,

1:00:11

they'll kill it. Awesome. But he

1:00:13

literally takes out that whole ship

1:00:15

like it's know, I'm he. He

1:00:18

does like a He does a target

1:00:20

physically like Godzilla Gauze Yeah and then

1:00:22

to be He falls under the boats

1:00:24

and suits it with what is the

1:00:26

heat ray I would assume be a

1:00:29

has eight sisters to do a mushroom

1:00:31

clouds yeah both gone. I literally wrote

1:00:33

in my elbows like wait to report

1:00:35

this Godzilla have like a parking space

1:00:37

Laser like what is happening because me

1:00:40

flavor like what is happening because Law

1:00:42

Yeah it is like a laser through

1:00:44

and then mushroom cloud. It is nuts.

1:00:46

Yeah I ended know is unscathed. Oh yeah

1:00:48

but the smaller boat has been able to

1:00:51

get away. So Koichi weeks of them a

1:00:53

hospital and his his boat as friends are

1:00:55

all their I do. Want to? One

1:00:57

of the koichi is icing on narcolepsy

1:00:59

or perhaps just gets really sleepy with

1:01:01

prolonged exposure to Godzilla because of the

1:01:03

second time in the first forty minutes

1:01:06

of the movie were Godzilla attacks and

1:01:08

the seen as with him passing out

1:01:10

so like com is you've got to

1:01:12

get his shit together. Yeah thought Well

1:01:14

Koichi. Also I think the sets up a

1:01:16

really important part of his grieving process because

1:01:18

eventually gets really. Somebody finds out that like

1:01:20

the government's not going to tell people about

1:01:22

Godzilla like you like we got a evacuated

1:01:24

They're like know it, It did not happen.

1:01:26

So. He goes home and is having

1:01:29

these horrible that know dreams in the

1:01:31

Us. To tell Noriko he's like I

1:01:33

abandoned My mission is a cause of

1:01:36

Kamikaze pilot. Then. Landed on this

1:01:38

island, Godzilla showed up, killed everyone

1:01:40

but me. So this is the

1:01:42

second or third time I have

1:01:45

survived a thing I was supposed

1:01:47

to die in. Yeah and those

1:01:49

the compounding survivor's guilt. Wrecking.

1:01:52

His head. it's caressing. him from the

1:01:54

inside out it is doing what they want

1:01:56

to do the godzilla yet at the end

1:01:58

of this movie when take him on the Tower

1:02:01

of Terror. He also feels helpless. He's like,

1:02:03

this is also the second time I couldn't

1:02:05

do anything. Now I would argue he tried

1:02:07

to do things in this one and just

1:02:09

didn't have the ability or the

1:02:11

resources to affect change. But

1:02:14

like he's listing that in the same category as

1:02:16

not being able to shoot at Godzilla. And it's

1:02:18

like, well, those are different. They are very different

1:02:20

things. Yeah. They're very different things.

1:02:23

One of them is inaction. The other one is

1:02:25

just not being successful because you didn't have the

1:02:27

right tools. Right. He's

1:02:29

really getting into the survivor's guilt like a lot

1:02:31

in this scene. And I was crying during this

1:02:33

because it's like I deal with a lot of

1:02:35

that shit too with my brother because we were

1:02:37

in the car together. And like it's just like

1:02:40

all the shit he was saying was like spot

1:02:42

on. It was just making me ball. Oh yeah.

1:02:44

Well, and and Noriko is basically just

1:02:46

like everyone who lived deserves to live.

1:02:49

Like there's no like

1:02:51

it is kind of random, but you

1:02:53

cannot hold it against yourself. Like you

1:02:55

lived. So you better live. Yeah. You

1:02:58

don't want to ponder the gift that based upon

1:03:01

your belief or in belief, God or random chance

1:03:03

gave you. Right. Like, yeah,

1:03:05

it is a gift either way. The people

1:03:07

who died deserve to live. It's not that

1:03:09

anyone deserves to die, but you do deserve

1:03:11

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1:03:14

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machine. The next morning

1:04:29

he wakes up and he sees

1:04:31

Noriko and Akiko having breakfast and

1:04:34

this is where he says to her

1:04:36

I'd like to try and live again. Which

1:04:38

I think is his first step towards like

1:04:40

let's get married, like you know whatever. Or

1:04:42

like hey what are you doing

1:04:45

later tonight? I would love to

1:04:47

finally rail you. Like they have

1:04:49

been living together for years at

1:04:51

this point. Yes. So in

1:04:53

love. Like at least take her on a date

1:04:55

is all I'm saying. Yes. And in this

1:04:57

movie they could have some Godzilla sushi. Yay.

1:05:00

We cut to Godzilla swimming

1:05:02

under boats affecting the current.

1:05:04

And the boats are like oh we've got to report it. Let's

1:05:07

detonate zone four. They do it. It

1:05:09

does nothing. So

1:05:12

it is headed towards Ginza.

1:05:14

Cut to he's playing with Akiko because

1:05:17

he's not back at work yet because their

1:05:19

boats fucked up. Like he was

1:05:21

hurt. So he hears the air

1:05:23

raid sirens and he's like what's happening?

1:05:25

And he hears on the radio an

1:05:27

emergency news report near Ginza that Godzilla

1:05:29

has been spotted and he's like well

1:05:31

that's where Noriko works. I gotta go

1:05:34

get her. So he literally passes Akiko

1:05:36

off to the neighbor. And

1:05:38

he just runs. We don't see where

1:05:40

he ends up we will eventually. It's

1:05:42

literally the day after he said

1:05:44

maybe I can start to live again.

1:05:47

Remember that in like 30 seconds. Yes.

1:05:51

Everyone's running. But this is classic

1:05:53

Godzilla. This is like straight out

1:05:55

of the OG Godzilla films. Amazing.

1:05:57

And it all looks great. She's

1:06:00

on the train and he just picks

1:06:02

up the train and she's like like

1:06:04

falling and has to drop and fall

1:06:06

into the ocean But she manages to

1:06:09

like fall and survive and get back

1:06:11

on land just in time for Godzilla

1:06:13

to be like Stomping down

1:06:15

the streets behind her. I know

1:06:17

what are the odds of all of that

1:06:20

and you swim up You walk out onto

1:06:22

the street and then Godzilla's walking down. Yeah

1:06:24

doing the slowest 5k you've ever seen like

1:06:26

that's how Godzilla do Yeah, yeah, but so

1:06:29

she's like so days. She can't even save

1:06:31

herself at this She's just like I don't

1:06:33

even know what's happening I'm just kind of

1:06:35

and he runs up from behind her because

1:06:38

he miraculously found her and I'm gonna excuse

1:06:40

This one piece of impossible movie

1:06:43

magic same. I forgive it. I love

1:06:45

it I forgive it because the rest of the

1:06:47

movie is so good and it's worth it Yeah,

1:06:49

so at this point I'm like he

1:06:51

clearly Was like willing

1:06:53

to risk it and willing to be

1:06:55

brave for her Oh, this is more

1:06:57

or less also a suicide mission like he's

1:06:59

running towards Godzilla to save her Yeah, so

1:07:02

like I do think he is no longer

1:07:04

a man of inaction. Yes. Yeah

1:07:06

Yeah, and so they're running the tanks

1:07:08

are shooting at Godzilla It doesn't make

1:07:11

a fucking difference because it's fucking Godzilla

1:07:13

Yeah, and he sees the blue like

1:07:15

tail like Godzilla's power and I'm like,

1:07:17

oh no And so

1:07:19

they run and as Godzilla

1:07:22

is about to basically shoot the heat

1:07:24

ray She pushes him

1:07:27

down an alleyway to save him He

1:07:29

was trying to pull her into the

1:07:31

alleyway She pushes him and

1:07:33

she just gets thrown by the

1:07:35

blast Yeah like she doesn't get

1:07:37

the heat heat way ray but

1:07:40

like the residual blast of the

1:07:42

like the concussive force Throws

1:07:44

her yeah down the street with

1:07:46

piles of rubble and whatever I mean

1:07:49

you perhaps could survive we do find

1:07:51

her later in the movie sure that

1:07:53

she did So she did

1:07:55

survive, but I assume she was dead like

1:07:57

I was like what she's dead Like

1:08:00

literally the day after he was like,

1:08:03

I can live again, meaning like maybe I can

1:08:05

start to open myself up to a relationship with

1:08:07

this person that I'm basically married to and have

1:08:09

a child with. Like, it's

1:08:11

heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking, guys. I

1:08:13

wept. Well, the movie,

1:08:16

because like, he goes to

1:08:18

look, he immediately goes to look for

1:08:20

her, and that street is just gone.

1:08:23

Yeah. There's nothing there. And like, his

1:08:25

screams of anguish, ugh, ugh. Like, but

1:08:27

it's almost like he's screaming into the

1:08:29

sky like, I'ma fuck you up, Godzilla!

1:08:32

And you're just like, yes. Oh, he

1:08:34

is, I think? Yes! So, okay,

1:08:36

we saw Godzilla's heatwave scream, and

1:08:38

then the scene ends with his

1:08:40

scream. Yes. And that is him

1:08:43

like, oh, I am not only

1:08:45

gonna survive this encounter, I'm gonna

1:08:47

fucking kill you, Godzilla. I-I

1:08:49

will not rest till I fucking

1:08:51

murder this giant lizard! Today was

1:08:54

the day I decided that I killed

1:08:56

you. Yes. I'm not sure how, but

1:08:58

it will be done. I will figure

1:09:00

out a way. And it's like raining

1:09:02

oil on him, so it's like, it's

1:09:04

so crazy. But yeah, I think it

1:09:06

is- Or ash or whatever, and it like- I'm

1:09:08

sure it's ash, but it's like blackness. Yeah, yeah,

1:09:10

yeah, it's so crazy. But it's great. I love

1:09:13

it. Yeah. Well, and so he goes

1:09:15

home, because obviously, if you looked at it,

1:09:17

you'd assume she was dead. There's no way

1:09:19

you could get to her. Of course. Whatever.

1:09:21

So, they all have like a funeral in

1:09:24

the house. And he says, why

1:09:26

did I think I could

1:09:28

dream again? I was like,

1:09:30

just sobbing. I could not

1:09:32

handle it, Paige. Oh, but then

1:09:35

Doc is like, hey, a bunch

1:09:37

of us that are- are veterans,

1:09:39

like former soldiers, that are

1:09:41

now private citizens, are going to try

1:09:43

and come up with a strategy to

1:09:45

defeat Godzilla, since the army is failing.

1:09:47

And it's probably not viable, but do

1:09:49

you want in? And he's just basically

1:09:51

like, fucking, I'm gonna fuck that lizard

1:09:53

up. Like, he's like, any job, I

1:09:55

don't care. We might die during it,

1:09:57

even better. Like, I- whatever it takes.

1:10:00

Like I'm glad other people wanna help

1:10:02

me kill Godzilla to the I was

1:10:04

gonna do that anyway any away metal

1:10:06

on my my use of the why

1:10:08

did a closeted like an artist to

1:10:10

a local an artist meeting like guess

1:10:12

I will go yes. We'll. Just as

1:10:14

he had been. the town hall meeting

1:10:16

and their plan is. And now here's

1:10:18

a thing. The plant is not a

1:10:20

bad plan. it just don't work it.

1:10:22

Ultimately, Okay, it's nineteen forties. Yes, you.

1:10:24

Have the technology a have an

1:10:27

idea forties? Yeah. I really thought

1:10:29

it was an ingenious way of

1:10:31

solving the Godzilla problem with the

1:10:33

technology they have yet as turns

1:10:35

out not to work at all

1:10:37

What I like to idol. I

1:10:40

honestly I sort of love the

1:10:42

steampunk nature of it all. Physical

1:10:44

Science Teacher for peace grade was

1:10:46

like how would you kill Godzilla

1:10:48

using science the and they were

1:10:51

like free on ah and I

1:10:53

love you. Won't have a sense.

1:10:55

And here's the thing. This happens

1:10:57

in every single Godzilla movie, especially

1:11:00

the Japanese on. Where. There's like

1:11:02

a plan where they're like will do this

1:11:04

and will use this and scientifically this in

1:11:06

this should happen and it's like real science

1:11:09

and then it failed and then when guys

1:11:11

like. His.

1:11:13

I like and that's all it's

1:11:15

all. And like one person or

1:11:17

Mothra being like, what if I

1:11:19

just came off and like matching

1:11:21

over these electrical cables or whatever.

1:11:23

So like. This was very classic

1:11:25

Godzilla for me. I loved it.

1:11:28

But. Essentially, the plan is this: They're

1:11:30

going to. Release. Free on

1:11:32

gas to surround Godzilla in. Almost

1:11:34

like a bubble enclosure that would

1:11:36

make him heavy enough to sink

1:11:38

to the bottom. Of. A very

1:11:40

very deep trench in the ocean where

1:11:42

they would hope. That. The pressure.

1:11:45

Would. Essentially compress him to death.

1:11:47

He either try to like. Pop

1:11:49

like Ocean do yea. I

1:11:51

could then they have inflatable to

1:11:54

rapidly rising to the surface for

1:11:56

explosive decompression. Like scientifically you're like

1:11:58

I get it, Okay. Yeah. So

1:12:00

not only is this plan A, it's

1:12:03

also plan B. Like Tower of Terror

1:12:05

going down is plan A. Hopefully the

1:12:07

crush of that will kill him. If

1:12:09

it doesn't, we'll inflate balloons down there.

1:12:11

And then as those balloons rise, those

1:12:14

more or less become bombs. Yeah. Because

1:12:16

the air in them is expanding because

1:12:18

the pressure in the ocean is getting

1:12:20

less. So if plan A doesn't work,

1:12:22

we'll explode them with the balloon bomb

1:12:25

things. It's also like B and

1:12:27

B.5 because yes, the balloons will explode.

1:12:29

But also he should explode because of

1:12:31

explosive decompression. Like, but they're also like,

1:12:34

will this even kill him? And they're

1:12:36

like, I don't know. That

1:12:39

is how you go with this because like, you

1:12:41

don't have a lot of intelligence about like,

1:12:44

what the inner workings of a Godzilla kaiju

1:12:46

is. Yeah. Just like you're throwing shit at

1:12:48

a wall and hoping you figure it out.

1:12:50

Yeah. And well, and at this point, I

1:12:52

was like, how is there still an hour

1:12:54

left of this movie? Mind you, it has

1:12:56

not been, it has not dragged for a

1:12:58

second. No, I think everything is an important.

1:13:00

Yeah. It is paced great. I'm just like,

1:13:02

what's next? Like, what's, what's still happening? I

1:13:05

mean, honestly, I bet the last half or the

1:13:07

last hour of the movie will be faster to

1:13:09

explain because a lot of it's just like the

1:13:11

action set piece stuff. Right. Like the story stuff

1:13:13

is like almost complete at this point. We just

1:13:15

see how they nail it. The last

1:13:17

half. So the last hour of the

1:13:19

movie, the last half is divided into

1:13:21

what I would call two chunks. One

1:13:24

that will make you cry so hard, your body

1:13:26

hurts. And the other is them fucking up a

1:13:28

giant lizard. So like both of them are great.

1:13:30

Both of them are great. And thus at this

1:13:33

point begins the half that will make you cry

1:13:35

so hard, your body hurts because essentially

1:13:37

everyone in this town hall is like, we

1:13:40

have families and we just spent the

1:13:43

last two years rebuilding from the war.

1:13:45

And now you're asking us to

1:13:47

go on what is effectively a

1:13:49

suicide mission again to kill this

1:13:52

giant lizard. Yeah. And like

1:13:55

you want me to again

1:13:57

sacrifice for what? I

1:13:59

love it. I loved it. I loved it because

1:14:01

it is essentially like a captain from the

1:14:04

Navy who was like leading the meeting Yes,

1:14:06

and he's treating them like soldiers because pretty

1:14:08

much everyone in there was in the Japanese

1:14:11

Navy And he's like the future of the

1:14:13

nation depends on you. It's in your hands

1:14:15

again Who's with me and

1:14:17

like one guy raises his hand and

1:14:19

he's like sir. I cannot yes I

1:14:21

have a family and fuck you so

1:14:23

much for asking again that we Save

1:14:27

you so I'm out now

1:14:29

listen He's not wrong and I love

1:14:31

the way they handled this because I think

1:14:33

it's doc that Ashley actually says it They're

1:14:36

like listen. We're not here

1:14:38

from the government. We are literally just

1:14:40

civilians. We can't make you do anything

1:14:42

Yeah, we're not conscripting you this is

1:14:44

volunteer if you don't want to be

1:14:47

here We understand and about 30% of

1:14:50

them walk out leave. Yeah, that would be

1:14:52

the point I leave I'd be like I

1:14:54

am NOT even in the Navy. I don't

1:14:56

even know how to be on a boat

1:14:59

I'm gonna go but I

1:15:01

mean I I'm like if I don't if

1:15:03

I don't help there's a chance Godzilla kills

1:15:05

me anyway So I might as well fuck

1:15:07

up this giant lizard, bro Honestly like

1:15:09

for the story at least but like yeah a

1:15:11

lot of them do choose to stay and a

1:15:13

lot of them are like Hey We

1:15:16

know how to we know how to run a

1:15:18

boat and like someone has to do

1:15:20

this if no one does this Yeah, it

1:15:22

will just kill everyone here So

1:15:24

like right we have to do this so a lot

1:15:26

of them do stay and I really like at

1:15:29

the end of the scene The guy who is like

1:15:31

the former Navy captain who's been

1:15:33

like running this meeting and talking to them

1:15:35

like soldiers at the very end

1:15:37

of this meeting He like addresses them and

1:15:39

calls them friends. Yes, and he's like, thank

1:15:42

you friends I appreciate you doing this like

1:15:44

he doesn't address them like soldiers and I

1:15:46

really like that like right dichotomy from the

1:15:48

beginning of the Meeting to the end of

1:15:51

the meeting. It was like a military meeting

1:15:53

and then it just sort of feels like

1:15:55

a collection of neighborhoods Getting

1:15:57

together Yeah,

1:16:00

to kill Godzilla. And they

1:16:02

do, they are given some like

1:16:04

decommissioned like boats to use. Yeah.

1:16:07

So the government is involved a little bit, but not much.

1:16:10

Yeah. Well, and I do love

1:16:12

the guy that's like, is this certain death?

1:16:14

And they're like, I mean, technically, no, you

1:16:16

could maybe live through this. I mean, like

1:16:18

who's to say? And then he's like, well,

1:16:20

that's better than the war. Let's go. Yeah.

1:16:23

So at this point, they're like, great. Now

1:16:25

the planning phase begins. And a lot of

1:16:27

it is taking place at like Koichi's house.

1:16:29

Because like, that's where Doc and everybody has

1:16:31

kind of their like home base. Yeah. And

1:16:34

they're like, look, that lizard is coming back

1:16:36

because he's an animal and animals have territory.

1:16:38

And so like we're playing sounds

1:16:40

of his voice to make him think that he

1:16:42

has a competitor, but that won't last forever. So

1:16:45

like he is coming back and we don't know

1:16:47

when. But they do build like a grid

1:16:49

network of like radiation sensors to see where he's

1:16:51

going to be and where he's coming from and

1:16:53

stuff like that. Like they do have a really

1:16:56

I think they have a really great plan. And

1:16:58

I sort of love that they like the screenwriters

1:17:00

spent so much time building this great plan. Yep.

1:17:02

And then it just goes to

1:17:05

shit almost immediately. Yeah.

1:17:07

Well, again, classic. I

1:17:09

know. Right. I really like it. But

1:17:12

this is where Koichi is like, hey, can you get

1:17:14

a hold of a fighter plane? And they're like, no,

1:17:16

we decommissioned all of them. Spoiler, because

1:17:19

of the Americans. Yeah. Like America

1:17:21

grounded the plane because

1:17:24

the Japanese really good at planes. Like

1:17:26

they were so good at it. They're really

1:17:28

good submarines, too. Like a lot of really

1:17:31

interesting military technology came out of Japan that

1:17:33

we did not have equitable technology

1:17:35

in those arenas. And so after the

1:17:37

war, we like grounded them till we

1:17:39

could steal their secret. Yeah, I don't

1:17:41

know a lot about it, but I know

1:17:44

the zero, which is the planes that the

1:17:46

Japanese were using in World War Two were

1:17:48

way more maneuverable, I think faster than any

1:17:50

planes that we had at the time. So,

1:17:52

yeah, absolutely. And the plane that like he

1:17:54

uses at the end is even

1:17:56

like a pretty weird design, like the propellers were

1:17:58

the tail of the plane. would be and it can

1:18:00

go 400 knots which is really

1:18:02

fast at the time. So like I like

1:18:05

I was into it. I am sort of

1:18:07

a nerd for like World War II time

1:18:09

period not necessarily just the war but like

1:18:11

aesthetics. Oh yeah. I'm like obsessed with like

1:18:14

bomber nose art you know of the time.

1:18:16

Oh yeah. So like that art style too and

1:18:19

like the music the big band music at the

1:18:21

time I'm super into. So like I like a

1:18:23

lot of the technology from that time and like

1:18:25

for me I love Atomic Era which

1:18:27

is right after this which is where

1:18:29

like. That's why you like Fallout so much. That's what

1:18:32

I loved Fallout. I love it too.

1:18:34

It's why I love mid-century stuff so

1:18:36

much. There is a specific art movement

1:18:38

following the war and kind of where

1:18:40

everyone ended up after World War II

1:18:42

that really leans in a very specific

1:18:44

stylistic direction that I really like. I

1:18:46

love it. I wanted when I had my

1:18:48

motorcycle I never did this but I wanted

1:18:50

to had I had the money I would

1:18:52

have painted it like Matt Olive Green. Oh

1:18:55

yeah to make it look like one of the

1:18:57

war ones. So my dad's father, my

1:18:59

granddad on my dad's side I never met

1:19:01

because he was he flew bombers

1:19:03

in the war and then became an alcoholic

1:19:05

and drank himself to death because of various

1:19:07

reasons but I wanted to get his nose

1:19:09

out. Probably the war. That's what I would

1:19:12

guess too although I don't know. If you

1:19:14

have to ask why any old men in

1:19:16

our lives have trauma you could probably just

1:19:18

say the war and probably be right. It's

1:19:20

a whole like traumatic thing like my dad found

1:19:22

him like when he had taken his life like

1:19:24

it's a whole sad story that essentially because my

1:19:26

dad is dead and I never took the time

1:19:28

to ask him I'll never know the full extent

1:19:31

of but I know it was bad. Anyway

1:19:33

but like I wanted to get my granddad's

1:19:36

nose art from his plane

1:19:39

on the side of my motorcycle. I never actually did

1:19:41

it and I honestly so I don't even know if

1:19:43

they had nose art at the time he was there

1:19:45

so like I'm not even sure if his plane did

1:19:47

have it but that's what I that's initially why I

1:19:49

wanted to do all that. Jake and

1:19:52

I went on our honeymoon

1:19:54

to Colonial Williamsburg in Washington DC and when

1:19:57

we were in DC we went to the

1:19:59

Air and Space Space Museum. You fucking

1:20:01

nerds. I love that that's where you wanted your

1:20:03

honeymoon. Because hey, I love DC.

1:20:05

All the Smithsonians more or less are free.

1:20:07

And it's like there's so much shit you

1:20:09

can see and do there for free. Oh,

1:20:11

yeah. Guys, nothing more romantic

1:20:13

than the Library of Congress tour. Let me

1:20:16

tell you about it. It's so great. I

1:20:18

say that like I'm joking. I actually really do

1:20:21

love the Library of Congress tour. My

1:20:23

favorite is the Folger Shakespeare Library. I've

1:20:26

been to it a couple of times. Yeah. Because

1:20:28

it's got the beautiful stained glass. Yes. But

1:20:30

Air and Space Museum and Jake found

1:20:32

they have these little like metal model

1:20:35

things you could put together of the

1:20:37

plane his grandfather flew. Oh. In

1:20:39

the war. Yeah. Love that.

1:20:42

Yes. Anyway, Koichi's like, if you

1:20:44

can get me a plane, I can distract Godzilla

1:20:46

or like draw him towards wherever we need him

1:20:49

to be instead of a boat trying to do

1:20:51

that. And a boat's not going to be as

1:20:53

fast. That boat's probably going to get fucked up.

1:20:55

But like, if you get me a plane, I

1:20:57

can do it. And they're like, you're not going to try

1:20:59

and fly that plane into Godzilla with a ton of explosives,

1:21:01

are you? And he's like, what? I would

1:21:03

never. Definitely. They saw

1:21:05

through that, though. Like they know. Yeah.

1:21:09

And they're like, why didn't you? And Captain Noda

1:21:11

is like, if you had married, if you had

1:21:14

married Noriko, she wouldn't be dead and you wouldn't

1:21:16

feel this way. Fuck. Yeah. And

1:21:19

we'd be leaving you home. Yeah. Which is maybe

1:21:21

not the best thing to say to a person that's like

1:21:23

fill a plane full of bombs. I

1:21:25

know. It's not time to have

1:21:27

this conversation, but you're not wrong. But

1:21:30

this is where he says he's like, you knew how

1:21:32

she felt. Why didn't you marry her?

1:21:34

And this is where we get the craziest,

1:21:36

the best line in the movie of because

1:21:38

my war isn't over yet. It's

1:21:40

never been over. I've been at war

1:21:42

every day for a year, Paige. I

1:21:45

love this line, though. Oh, I love

1:21:48

this line because you are still sitting

1:21:50

in the like, I can't believe Godzilla

1:21:52

killed his wife. Like you were

1:21:54

sitting in that revenge rage with them and you're

1:21:56

like, you're damn right. Yeah, it's not over.

1:21:58

It's not over. So that fucking lizard's

1:22:01

head is blown half off, okay? So they

1:22:03

find a plane, but it was a test

1:22:05

plane. It wasn't one that was flown in

1:22:07

war. It was like the next generation of

1:22:09

what they were building. And because of

1:22:11

that, and when the Americans grounded their whole air

1:22:13

force, they didn't really finish building it.

1:22:16

So like they need a mechanic who can finish

1:22:18

it. Yeah, and like a really good

1:22:20

mechanic. And he's like, I know the

1:22:22

guy, not only because he's an incredibly

1:22:24

skilled mechanic, which we knew from before,

1:22:26

he's like, but also this is part

1:22:28

of me, an unfinished battle

1:22:31

for me. I like that

1:22:33

it's a struggle to find this

1:22:35

guy. And he is adamant that

1:22:37

no, I am aware other mechanics

1:22:39

exist, but I need to give this

1:22:41

guy closure with this Godzilla thing as

1:22:44

bad as I need to get

1:22:46

it for myself. And I

1:22:48

love that. And I loved that like

1:22:50

this guy is unfindable. He goes to the

1:22:52

war office and they're like, we don't have

1:22:54

a current address. And he's like, can you

1:22:56

tell me places he's been stationed? And then

1:22:58

he just starts writing these letters. And you

1:23:00

assume that those letters are like, hey man,

1:23:02

looking for you, would love to reconnect, got

1:23:04

a special offer for you, maybe a job

1:23:07

you might want to take, but no. Godzilla

1:23:09

is back here. Yeah, no, this

1:23:11

motherfucker is playing 4D chess. He writes

1:23:13

him and then turns himself into bait

1:23:15

knowing that he can say shit that'll

1:23:17

make the mechanic look for him. So

1:23:19

he's like, bro, you know all those

1:23:22

guys that died on that island that

1:23:24

you were stationed at, your

1:23:26

best friends from the war, you killed

1:23:28

them. It's your fault they're dead. And

1:23:32

so he like, that's too much. It's

1:23:34

too much for the mechanic to handle.

1:23:36

So the mechanic tracks him down and

1:23:38

beats the shit out of it. And

1:23:41

the whole time he's beating the shit out of

1:23:43

him, he's like, I am so sorry that I

1:23:45

wrote those terrible letters. I needed to talk to

1:23:47

you. I get that this is my fault. All

1:23:50

of your friends are dead, that it's not your fault. Anyway,

1:23:52

so he's just like beating the shit out of him.

1:23:55

While he's just like trying to be like, here's our

1:23:57

plan. Like here's what we would like you to do.

1:24:00

And eventually the mechanic is on board, but it

1:24:02

takes a lot of punches. Well, essentially, it

1:24:04

takes a lot of punches, but he's like, I need

1:24:06

you to repair a fighter for me so I can

1:24:08

kill it. And the mechanic's like, I don't give a

1:24:10

shit. And he's like, no, I detonated a

1:24:12

mine in its mouth and it did more damage. And

1:24:14

I know if I flew a

1:24:16

plane with explosives down into it, I

1:24:19

could kill it, or at least hurt it way

1:24:21

worse than we have. And the guy's still like,

1:24:23

ah, fuck this. And he's like, no, I know

1:24:26

the war isn't over for you either. And he's just

1:24:28

like, fuck. He's like, God damn

1:24:30

it, he got me. It's not over.

1:24:32

It's never been over. So he

1:24:34

brings a whole mechanic crew in to make it

1:24:36

fly. Great. And they're, they're

1:24:38

talking with Doc and he's like,

1:24:41

I know it's my plan, but I know it'll take a miracle

1:24:43

for it to work. And, but all the

1:24:45

guys are still there. They're just like, yeah,

1:24:48

no, we're here to fuck up that lizard. We

1:24:52

cut to the conference room where they have

1:24:54

gotten word that Godzilla is approaching, so now

1:24:56

they're like, okay, we, we move it. Don

1:24:58

basically like we need to have him over

1:25:00

the trench at 11 tomorrow, be in positions

1:25:02

by eight. We get the device ready and

1:25:05

be with your families tonight. Cause tomorrow

1:25:07

we fuck up that lizard. But this

1:25:09

is where they're like, Hey, the

1:25:11

war did not respect the sanctity

1:25:14

of your life and while

1:25:16

we may die doing this, no,

1:25:18

we're not ordering anyone to do this. Right.

1:25:20

Please, if you are doing this, know that

1:25:22

you are doing it, not to

1:25:25

fight to the death, but to live for

1:25:27

the future, to try and save as many

1:25:29

people. Yeah. You are fighting to

1:25:31

survive. Yes. I love

1:25:33

that arc in the movie and

1:25:36

seeing everyone like go from, yes,

1:25:38

you have to die for your

1:25:41

country to, if you die for

1:25:43

your country, it's okay. It's an

1:25:45

honorable sacrifice, but it is

1:25:48

not something that is required of you.

1:25:50

And it is something that you are

1:25:52

doing because you want to live. You're

1:25:54

fighting to live. Yeah. Which is the

1:25:56

difference I think between like going and

1:25:58

learning to be a pilot. and dog

1:26:00

fighting and being willing to do that.

1:26:02

And then being asked to do like

1:26:05

kamikaze missions where you are definitely gonna

1:26:07

die. Those are two different

1:26:09

asks of a government for me.

1:26:12

Yeah, but this is also the scene where they

1:26:14

leave the kid and they're like, we leave you

1:26:16

the future. Which is just like, ugh. You

1:26:19

mean kid, not their, not? Not

1:26:21

a Kiko, yeah, the kid is

1:26:23

his nickname. Yeah, the guy who is too

1:26:26

young to go to the war, but like desperately

1:26:28

wants to be in the war. I

1:26:30

sobbed at that moment too, and we talked about it

1:26:32

a little bit before, but it is like the captain

1:26:34

of the boat and doc walking away

1:26:36

and they're like, not being a

1:26:39

part of the war is something to be grateful

1:26:41

for. It's not something to, you know, he shouldn't

1:26:43

long to be in this like traumatic, horrible thing.

1:26:45

Don't regret it. Yeah, exactly. And then

1:26:47

as they're walking away, he's yelling like,

1:26:49

I could do it, like I'm strong

1:26:51

enough or I'm capable enough to do

1:26:53

it. And they're like, you idiot, we

1:26:56

know that. That's why we need you

1:26:58

to stay and run the fucking country

1:27:00

because we are giving it to you

1:27:02

by sacrificing ourselves in this moment. And

1:27:04

that kid completely misses the emotional weight

1:27:06

of that conversation. He has no idea.

1:27:08

And so like he has his favorite

1:27:10

tugboat captain on a journey

1:27:12

and that's nuts to me. I

1:27:14

mean, yes, I get it. I get that it

1:27:17

saves the day, but like if I'm a

1:27:19

tugboat captain in Tokyo Harbor and some

1:27:21

guy is like, hey, do you want

1:27:23

to help to destroy your class cruisers?

1:27:27

Kill Godzilla? I'd be like, bro, I'm

1:27:29

a tugboat. The most I can do is

1:27:32

give him like a ride around the harbor.

1:27:35

They don't have guns. I would say no

1:27:37

to that request is all I'm saying. I

1:27:39

understand saying no to that request. Yeah. What am

1:27:41

I going to do? Push him? That's not how you kill

1:27:43

Godzilla. Yeah. We cut

1:27:45

to them working on the plane late

1:27:47

into the night and we get a

1:27:50

very deliberate shot of the seat that

1:27:52

has a panel that we can't read.

1:27:55

But that was my first indication of like, oh,

1:27:57

it's an ejection seat, which is something that

1:27:59

was called out. in the meeting right

1:28:01

before where they're like the government did not

1:28:03

value our lives during war they built planes

1:28:05

without ejector seats they they Asked

1:28:07

us to fly planes into stuff like they

1:28:09

made submarines that you couldn't get out of like

1:28:12

all of these things And so

1:28:14

we see him putting like making sure that

1:28:16

ejector seat works. Yeah, we cut to Koichi

1:28:18

picking up a Kiko and Basically

1:28:21

having one last night tucking

1:28:24

her in Oh, I'm sorry.

1:28:26

I'm crying too It's so sad like he is

1:28:28

saying he's saying goodbye And I

1:28:30

love the way this works because the arc

1:28:32

of the movie like if he had decided

1:28:34

that I am Willing to

1:28:37

sacrifice my life for these people I

1:28:39

love and in memory of this woman that

1:28:41

I loved because remember he thinks Sorry,

1:28:44

I'm trying not to go Rico

1:28:46

is dead, right? so he's like I will sacrifice

1:28:48

my life for my daughter in my city and

1:28:51

and that is ultimately not what he's choosing but

1:28:53

he is It still works

1:28:55

because he very he very well might

1:28:57

die in this so it is that

1:29:00

Difference between dog fighting and a kamikaze

1:29:02

mission, right? But he still puts things

1:29:04

in place in case he does in

1:29:06

case he writes that note He gives

1:29:08

the money to the terrible lady who

1:29:10

became more or less the ants like

1:29:13

he is making sure that his quote

1:29:15

Daughter is taken care of you know

1:29:17

yeah, and it works because in my

1:29:19

mind he was gonna kill himself in

1:29:21

the movie Well the

1:29:23

movie sets it up to think that that's what's going

1:29:25

on It still works like cuz I get

1:29:27

that like just as a responsible parent

1:29:29

who was in this situation And has

1:29:31

made the choice to go fight Godzilla

1:29:33

even yes with the possibility of death

1:29:36

is just making sure His daughter

1:29:38

is cared for in that eventuality. Yeah, I Stopped

1:29:41

I was crying the whole time page like from

1:29:43

here to the end more or less one She

1:29:45

drew a picture for him and he like

1:29:47

takes it with him and yours like oh

1:29:49

and honestly This is this is terrible.

1:29:52

Oh, she has terrible art Okay

1:29:57

Draw a key coat a lot of A

1:30:00

lot of movies do this where they

1:30:02

like, they have a picture of their

1:30:04

wife or their loved one and like

1:30:06

a drawing their kid did. And to

1:30:08

me, it's better if that drawing is

1:30:11

absolute shit. It's like trash. You know

1:30:13

what I'm saying? It's like, that is

1:30:15

like, if that's the art that dad

1:30:17

saved, he fucking loves that kid, man.

1:30:19

Yeah, 100 b- cuz it's literally

1:30:22

like three circles with red hair.

1:30:25

But because she's a little tiny baby.

1:30:27

I've seen pictures from my youth where

1:30:30

like my fridge is visible behind us in

1:30:32

the photos. I can see the art my

1:30:34

mom was putting up on that fridge. And

1:30:36

let's just say Todd wasn't sending the best

1:30:38

art. You know what I'm saying? I'm like,

1:30:40

I wasn't capable. But my mom must have

1:30:43

loved me. You know what I'm saying? Loved

1:30:45

you. Cuz that art would trash. Hey,

1:30:47

my mom still has like macaroni necklaces and things that

1:30:49

I made that she wears on Mother's Day sometimes. Aren't

1:30:52

moms the best? I'm not. I

1:30:54

love em. Anyway, so he leaves

1:30:56

her knowing that the neighbor will

1:30:58

find her. Cuz he leaves

1:31:00

early in the morning to get to the

1:31:03

plane. And like, he gets on the plane

1:31:05

and the mechanic is walking him through everything.

1:31:07

He's like, okay, this is what I'm gonna

1:31:09

do. These are like- Yeah, pull this

1:31:11

lever to arm the bombs. He goes through like,

1:31:13

you've got a, I don't know, 500 kilogram

1:31:16

bomb in the nose and a 500 kilogram

1:31:18

bomb in the fuselage of the plane. Basically,

1:31:20

the plane is all bombs. Yeah, you're

1:31:23

essentially, I think he literally says I

1:31:25

took out one of the gas tanks and

1:31:27

put a bomb. Like, so more or less

1:31:29

you're flying a bomb, fly the bomb into

1:31:31

his mouth and feed it like it's a

1:31:33

pill to Godzilla and then explode it. Yes,

1:31:36

well, and we pull back and we hear him explain

1:31:38

one more thing. We don't know what it is. We

1:31:40

will find out later it's the ejector seat. So,

1:31:42

Sumiko finds Akiko and finds the

1:31:45

note and realizes, oh my god,

1:31:47

he is maybe going to die

1:31:50

fighting Godzilla. Yeah. But

1:31:52

as that's happening, she gets a fucking

1:31:54

telegram and is like, oh my god,

1:31:56

which I was like, what? Is Noriko

1:31:58

alive? I didn't think- that at this

1:32:00

point that's what I thought I honestly had

1:32:03

no idea what the telegram was they had

1:32:05

so sold me on that Noriko was dead

1:32:07

I was like yeah she was mom Kyushio

1:32:09

so they had to kill her in the

1:32:11

half the halfway point of this movie right

1:32:14

because she's such a perfect character for him

1:32:17

but no they didn't have to kill her and I

1:32:19

loved that yeah well and what we'll find

1:32:21

out because the next half hour is basically

1:32:23

them fucking up this giant lizard so

1:32:26

they find out that the underwater decoy

1:32:28

team has been destroyed so some people

1:32:30

do die trying to take this lizard

1:32:32

down but not as many as would

1:32:34

have basically yeah but he fighter planes

1:32:36

him over the like designated area they

1:32:38

sink him down and he immediately

1:32:41

is still alive yeah

1:32:43

immediately is like he's going he goes all

1:32:46

the way to the bottom and it's fine

1:32:48

I want to say this though when they're

1:32:50

wrapping him up in that belt of freon

1:32:52

or whatever and he's standing it's

1:32:54

supposed to be like 1500 me how

1:32:56

tall is God's eye how big are

1:32:58

those legs that he is we don't

1:33:00

have any water like that I

1:33:03

just okay but Paige in my mind

1:33:05

follow me on this I think Godzilla

1:33:07

might be part duck because they

1:33:09

can like wait hold on what follow me

1:33:11

guys I'll feed you baby birds this is

1:33:13

not a joke this is an actual theory

1:33:15

you know okay ducks when they're like in

1:33:17

water they're like their upper section is like

1:33:20

yeah it is very very calm but their

1:33:22

legs are like yeah they're like really moving

1:33:24

so in my mind he's not just he's

1:33:26

not really tall obviously that'd be dumb he's

1:33:28

like kicking his little legs and you can't

1:33:30

see him because they're under the water

1:33:32

and that's how he's like getting probably 60%

1:33:35

of his body out of the water all I'm saying is he's like

1:33:38

holding a ton of weight litter a

1:33:40

literal ton page not just a ton of

1:33:42

weight like a literal ton of weight above

1:33:44

the water I mean we did see him

1:33:46

walk around Ginza and fuck people up I'm

1:33:49

not saying he's not capable I'm saying he's

1:33:51

duck like in this moment because it's upper

1:33:54

torso is like calm like he's standing on

1:33:56

the bottom yeah yeah oh yeah for

1:33:58

sure yeah he's just walking out into

1:34:00

the ocean like it's nothing. Like he's Jesus

1:34:03

walking on water. Yeah, except the water he can

1:34:05

walk on is like, I don't know, 50 feet

1:34:07

down. Yeah, it's fucked

1:34:09

up. But so he looks really

1:34:12

upset. He's he's powering up.

1:34:14

But boom, they drag him down

1:34:16

to the bottom. And they're like,

1:34:18

All right, we don't

1:34:20

know for sure. Like, but an act

1:34:22

plan B just in case. So they

1:34:25

deploy the flotation devices, he floats up

1:34:27

almost to the top and then he bites the

1:34:30

cables. And so they need

1:34:32

to pull him up fast to potentially

1:34:34

detonate the like lifeboats that he put

1:34:37

around him, but also potentially detonate him

1:34:39

as, you know, explosive decompression. So here's

1:34:41

why I don't think explosive decompression will

1:34:43

work. And I don't think enough people know

1:34:45

this about me. I am an advanced underwater

1:34:48

scuba diver and paddy certified. You are. I

1:34:50

know a little bit about this. Excuse me

1:34:52

as I push my glasses up on the

1:34:54

brim of my nose. If

1:34:56

you breathe in and then go

1:34:59

down, you have the same amount

1:35:01

of oxygen and don't breathe out, I should say.

1:35:03

And don't take in any more air. You have

1:35:05

the same amount of oxygen like it compresses the

1:35:07

further you go down. And as

1:35:09

you go up, it would then expands to

1:35:11

where it was when you took the breath.

1:35:13

Right. Right. So if he is not breathing

1:35:15

underwater, like if Godzilla is not taking a

1:35:17

breath, which I assume he can't, like

1:35:20

I assume he breathes air like other

1:35:22

lizards do. I don't know for sure.

1:35:24

Except that he lives in the deep

1:35:26

ocean. True. Like I see, I don't

1:35:28

know. So like, as long as

1:35:30

he doesn't take a breath, though, he could go

1:35:32

down to that death and come back up and

1:35:34

the air in his body would be the same

1:35:37

amount. Right. So it wouldn't kill him that way.

1:35:39

But the air that they blow into those balloons,

1:35:41

more or less, would explode. It would crush

1:35:43

him and explode off of him. And that

1:35:45

could potentially kill. I mean, I honestly think

1:35:47

it's not going to kill him either way

1:35:50

because he's sort of immune from the outside.

1:35:52

But yeah, that's their plan. And they don't have

1:35:54

a lot of information to go off of. So they're just

1:35:56

like throwing shit at the wall. But he does

1:35:58

stall out at 800 feet. And they're

1:36:00

like well, we can't lift him because the boats

1:36:02

are trying to pull him up Yeah, and this

1:36:05

is where the kid comes back with like with

1:36:07

all the tugboats or whatever and they pull him

1:36:09

up Help it the tugboats like

1:36:11

latch on to the destroyers and they like lift

1:36:13

him that way Yeah, so it's like the collective

1:36:16

might of all the boats lift

1:36:18

him up So it's like this metaphorical like

1:36:20

civilian and military operation like I love it.

1:36:22

It's great Yes, one of my favorite

1:36:24

parts of this from the cinematography perspective

1:36:27

the shots of the plane Yeah that

1:36:29

are either from cameras on the wing

1:36:32

or a companion paint plane flying with

1:36:34

them, but they're so smooth Yeah, those

1:36:36

look amazing like to the point where

1:36:38

I'm like if this is green screen

1:36:40

This is the best green screen I've

1:36:42

ever seen. Yeah, if it's not green

1:36:45

screen They were incredibly inventive about how

1:36:47

they got these shots by attaching cameras

1:36:49

to the plane And

1:36:51

high marks, it looks beautiful. It's

1:36:53

so good. They did an amazing job.

1:36:56

Yeah I mean it won awards for like visual

1:36:58

effects like yeah, it should look

1:37:00

amazing So like they bring

1:37:02

him back up and at this point there's

1:37:04

like nothing else they could do except for

1:37:06

that plane Because he's

1:37:08

in my notes It just says blow that

1:37:11

lives because this was two in the morning

1:37:13

and I was crying and screaming and so

1:37:15

like I love it But as they lift it up

1:37:17

and like the Godzilla is coming up out of the

1:37:19

water You see the tail charging like it is a

1:37:21

bow to do a heat vision and Jack on them

1:37:24

and like instead of that The

1:37:27

plane and like you see he's

1:37:29

coming in. Yeah, we also in

1:37:31

this scene get it is complete silence

1:37:33

Which is no impactful perfect choice Because

1:37:36

you watch it like as Godzilla's power in

1:37:38

up everybody on the boats basically realize like

1:37:41

we're we are gonna die today Yeah, we're

1:37:43

fucked. We tried our best. There's nothing we

1:37:45

can do. Yeah, and in comes this plane

1:37:48

and they realize oh, no He's

1:37:50

gonna die. Yeah, like he's gonna matter Yeah,

1:37:53

they even like the captain not

1:37:55

the naval captain who was like leading the operation but

1:37:57

the captain of the note a yeah Yeah, yeah Thank

1:38:00

you. He is like on the radio, like

1:38:02

don't do this, don't die for this,

1:38:04

like it's please don't. And everyone else

1:38:06

is like yelling no and stuff and

1:38:08

he's just like barreling right for it

1:38:10

like your dad with asparagus when you

1:38:12

were six and like, or like six

1:38:14

months. And like he, the way it's

1:38:17

shot, the way it's shown to you

1:38:19

is so great because there is a

1:38:21

hint of, did he pull the ejection

1:38:23

right in time or was that a

1:38:25

part of the fuselage coming off the

1:38:27

plane as it makes impact with his

1:38:29

mouth? Cause you see like a little

1:38:31

thing. Exactly and so like, I was like,

1:38:33

oh my God, please. I'm

1:38:35

like weeping, like, oh my God, please,

1:38:38

please, please, please let him be alive and

1:38:40

then. But he blows the

1:38:42

top of Godzilla's head off, great. His

1:38:44

brain is in the atmosphere. Like Godzilla

1:38:46

does get blown up but you

1:38:48

still don't know if he's dead or not. But then we

1:38:50

see the ejector seat. Yeah and

1:38:53

you see the parachute open and he's

1:38:55

like landing and everyone fucking salutes him

1:38:59

which is like such a, it's such

1:39:01

a great resolution to where this started.

1:39:03

Well and the mechanic who's just like, oh.

1:39:05

I know, I know. I know

1:39:08

that honestly the mechanic scene I think

1:39:10

is one of the

1:39:12

most impactful for me because of the forgiveness in

1:39:14

that is so immense. And

1:39:17

like to go from like, I

1:39:19

hate this person to like, I

1:39:21

bet those people are lifelong friends.

1:39:23

You know what I'm saying? Oh God, I hope

1:39:25

so. Like they might not talk every day but

1:39:27

they will go to bat for each other and

1:39:30

like to see that change in that relationship and

1:39:32

like it's so earned as well. I don't know,

1:39:34

I loved it. Just crying so

1:39:37

much at this point. Well and

1:39:40

Koichi's forgiveness of like, it's okay

1:39:42

for me not to die. Yeah,

1:39:44

well and literally everyone in his life

1:39:47

since the beginning of this movie has

1:39:49

been like, you should have died. You

1:39:52

should have died. And that slowly starts

1:39:54

to change with his

1:39:56

surrogate wife Noriko. And then with

1:39:58

his chosen family. They start

1:40:01

to be like, hey, you are a

1:40:03

valuable person. We love you. We want

1:40:05

you in our lives. Don't you know

1:40:07

and so he Eventually does

1:40:09

sort of come on board with the I

1:40:11

do deserve to live and there's so much

1:40:14

There's so much therapy that I had to

1:40:16

go through to get to that point. It's

1:40:18

just like so sad man I

1:40:20

think I cried a lot in this movie because

1:40:22

of just a Specific stuff that

1:40:24

I've been through and there have been times

1:40:26

in my life We're like if I didn't

1:40:29

start going to therapy I would not be

1:40:31

here because it was like it was destroying

1:40:33

me So to see someone go on that

1:40:35

like sort of similar journey and like it's

1:40:37

just I was just weeping me It's I

1:40:39

cried for about three minutes after

1:40:41

the credits. I was still I

1:40:43

was crying for like 20 minutes after

1:40:45

the credits Yeah, man. I went to

1:40:48

bed and woke Jake up with crying

1:40:50

and I'm sure he was Like

1:40:53

I'm trying to I have to work tomorrow

1:40:55

like what are you doing anyway, so he

1:40:57

he survives he makes it back He hasn't

1:40:59

seen minus one when he does see it. He's gonna

1:41:01

be like no, I get it. You were right to

1:41:03

wait I get it. I get it but

1:41:06

who should show up but sumiko who's like First

1:41:09

of all, fuck you for not telling me

1:41:11

that you were gonna try and kill yourself,

1:41:13

right? Secondly, she's alive boom,

1:41:17

so he goes to visit her and just like Openly

1:41:20

sob it was just like oh when

1:41:22

she when he walked in and

1:41:24

she says is your war finally

1:41:26

over I like

1:41:29

lost it I was already crying and now

1:41:31

I'm full on like, you know Like when

1:41:33

your dad was crying as a kid But

1:41:35

like you like he wasn't really

1:41:37

making a sound his shoulders were to shake

1:41:39

It was like deep cry like that's how

1:41:41

I was crying. My dogs were like what

1:41:43

is wrong with you? It was

1:41:45

so sad. He's like yes. Yes, of course. It's

1:41:47

over. I love you I want to be with

1:41:50

like it's clear that he wants to be with

1:41:52

her It's also clear that she has an infection

1:41:54

of some sort that we will have to discuss

1:41:57

Wait, what did you not see the black

1:41:59

like she's got? I don't know what it

1:42:01

is. I thought you might know but she's never really

1:42:03

got like She's been infected

1:42:05

by like some black. She's got a black mark

1:42:07

on her neck I don't know if I feel

1:42:09

it looks like it might even be like in

1:42:11

her veins You know, I didn't get a great

1:42:13

look at it Cuz I was once but like I

1:42:15

think that that's it has to be a setup for

1:42:18

something in the universe that I don't know Yeah, I

1:42:20

I did not catch that but yes, it

1:42:22

is on her neck and it's from

1:42:24

over you like looking it up. Nice Okay, I'm looking

1:42:27

it up right now. Some people say that

1:42:29

she is Impregnated

1:42:31

with a Godzilla, baby. Hang on.

1:42:33

Yeah, that's what everyone's saying But

1:42:35

like wait, is she gonna give birth

1:42:37

to baby Godzilla that then becomes space? Oh, I

1:42:39

don't know. Didn't you say that was the same

1:42:41

one? Hang on. No, well that's yeah

1:42:43

Hold on details fueling fan theories her

1:42:45

neck her back her pussy and her

1:42:48

crack her Godzilla down her crack What

1:42:50

happened cut that babe? Hang on a

1:42:53

piece of Godzilla's flesh is seen mutating at the bottom

1:42:55

of the ocean However, we may have

1:42:57

missed another potential clue on her

1:42:59

neck now the hospital She's seen with with

1:43:02

what appears to be a black mark on her neck.

1:43:04

This is I despite being so noticeable No explanation is

1:43:06

given they assumed it was radiation

1:43:08

poisoning one of the reasons why she's presumed

1:43:10

dead is because she was caught in the

1:43:12

blast radius and so it may

1:43:15

be radiation sickness So she may

1:43:17

later die of radiation exposure I mean,

1:43:19

I'm sure that there's a lot of things that

1:43:22

they could do with that. That's what I would

1:43:24

kind of assume Yeah, I didn't know if that

1:43:26

was something like from the universe Like if I

1:43:28

don't know if like DNA like if you've Godzilla

1:43:30

DNA burned you or some shit like you became

1:43:32

something or I don't know I've never really gotten

1:43:35

deep on the lore in Godzilla So in

1:43:37

Shin Godzilla, which is one of many

1:43:39

one of my good friends told me I should watch

1:43:41

that one after they saw that I was watching this

1:43:43

one into this. Yeah Godzilla's tail so

1:43:48

It's possible Maybe

1:43:50

that is what people are getting at and so

1:43:52

the director eventually came out and said they were

1:43:54

G cells Which have a brief history

1:43:56

in the Godzilla franchise and were utilized to create

1:43:58

Godzilla rivals Aiolante and

1:44:01

space Godzilla So

1:44:03

some fans speculated that it foreshadows those villains

1:44:05

as a arrival at a potential sequel because

1:44:07

what we do see is that Godzilla is

1:44:09

Regenerating in the ocean, but the

1:44:11

director didn't reveal what the G cells

1:44:14

mean for Noriko specifically which leaves it

1:44:16

open for future series Can't

1:44:22

wait to see what those where that goes and I

1:44:24

bet this gets a sequel because it's it did well

1:44:26

We'll talk about that in box office Well, this

1:44:28

is what's really interesting because it did it

1:44:30

did great In fact, I would argue that

1:44:32

this probably did better than the American ones

1:44:35

Maybe the American ones are still out and they're making

1:44:37

more of them and faster But

1:44:39

like we live in a in a

1:44:41

generation now where like we have and

1:44:43

we I guess always have two separate

1:44:45

Godzilla tracks We have the American Godzilla

1:44:47

track that is completely different and has

1:44:49

its own universe and lore Versus

1:44:52

the Toho Japanese Godzilla track, which

1:44:54

this is now establishing has its

1:44:56

own lore So like I

1:44:59

think we'll continue to get the movies

1:45:01

but they will not combine or touch

1:45:03

which I think is really interesting That

1:45:05

like we'll get two tracks

1:45:08

essentially. They're not canonically connected at

1:45:10

all And I honestly hope they never are

1:45:12

because I think there is a lane for the

1:45:14

like American fast and the

1:45:16

furious version of Godzilla and Elaine for

1:45:19

more like emotionally driven Godzilla stories or

1:45:21

kaiju didn't have to be Godzilla necessarily

1:45:23

like if you're right a mother a

1:45:26

stand like page over here Then

1:45:28

I you know, why not give it a look

1:45:30

but like I liked it The the Japanese light

1:45:33

is much more emotionally driven stories and the American

1:45:35

lane is much more fun action movies, you know

1:45:37

Yeah, anyway, so page having seen the movie and

1:45:39

they talked about the movie. What'd you think about

1:45:41

Godzilla minus one? I loved it I loved it

1:45:43

so much Not only is it

1:45:46

definitely the best Godzilla movie of I have ever

1:45:48

seen it's one of the best movies in general

1:45:50

I have seen in the last few years a

1:45:52

hundred percent. Yeah, I Honestly was

1:45:55

terrified that this movie was gonna end

1:45:57

just like the notebook where this guy

1:45:59

like upset over this literal

1:46:01

monster for most of the movie and

1:46:03

then it ends in a murder suicide

1:46:06

but it doesn't he does survive it

1:46:08

but I really dug it man I

1:46:10

loved this movie it was so good

1:46:13

and honestly like I don't know if

1:46:15

the other Godzilla movies are scary this

1:46:17

one isn't scary I did jump once

1:46:20

and that's that first dinosaur

1:46:22

Godzilla level reveal that you see

1:46:24

and it was a jump

1:46:26

scary kind of moment but that's really

1:46:28

it like it's really accessible if you're

1:46:30

scared of horror movies yeah and it's

1:46:32

so good you everyone should watch it

1:46:34

but Paige do you have any fun

1:46:36

facts for us I do I have

1:46:39

a lot of fun facts well here it

1:46:41

is with your fun facts instead

1:46:43

of creating a new roar they simply

1:46:45

play the original Godzilla roar over loudspeakers

1:46:48

that recorded the audio hell yeah love

1:46:50

that minus one in the title refers

1:46:52

to the fact that Japan had already been

1:46:54

devastated by World War two aka brought down

1:46:56

to zero and with the emergence of Godzilla

1:46:59

it puts Japan into the negative so

1:47:01

in the Japanese tagline for the

1:47:03

film it translates to post-war Japan

1:47:05

from zero to minus basically

1:47:08

like it's gonna take

1:47:10

you as low as possible and even

1:47:12

lower and then the you know triumph

1:47:14

of the spirit will you know level

1:47:17

the score at the end of the

1:47:19

movie yeah Gareth Edwards who directed the

1:47:21

Godzilla remake for the American track that

1:47:23

came out in 2014 attended

1:47:26

a screening of this film and

1:47:28

said that he was extremely jealous

1:47:30

because quote this is what a

1:47:32

Godzilla movie should be like Oh

1:47:34

hard agree yes hard agree bro

1:47:36

I mean I say that having no

1:47:38

knowledge of the wider expanded universe yes

1:47:40

but I loved this movie when asked

1:47:42

about the differences between American adaptations and

1:47:44

the Japanese originals Yamazaki who directed this

1:47:47

film stated that American

1:47:49

Godzilla is only focused on being

1:47:51

monstrous but Japanese Godzilla is both

1:47:53

a monster and a type of

1:47:55

God in the way that the

1:47:57

Japanese view a God malevolent and

1:47:59

destructive but reflective of the human spirit. And

1:48:02

I'm like, yes, you mean a better story.

1:48:05

Like, you mean a more holistic

1:48:07

view of the human and world

1:48:09

experience? And man, it does

1:48:11

really feel like in this movie, everyone gets

1:48:14

an arc. Like the lady who is terrible

1:48:16

to our main character at the beginning becomes

1:48:18

like the aunt figure and like is a very

1:48:20

much loved member of the family at the end

1:48:22

of the movie. And I love that. And they

1:48:24

do that with sort of all the characters. Yes.

1:48:28

There were some Easter eggs for

1:48:30

people like me who got huge,

1:48:32

either Godzilla fans or Pharaoh Monch

1:48:34

fans or both because they use

1:48:37

the classic Godzilla suite whenever

1:48:39

Godzilla makes landfall in this movie.

1:48:41

The first time he makes landfall

1:48:44

in Ginza, they use the suite

1:48:46

as composed by Akira Ikufube from

1:48:48

Mothra versus Godzilla, the 1964 version.

1:48:52

The second time in the finale, it's

1:48:54

from King Kong versus Godzilla in 1962

1:48:58

by the same composer. And then additionally,

1:49:00

there's an arrangement from 1983 of

1:49:03

the same theme that gets used. And

1:49:06

that one was also reused in

1:49:08

the end credits of Godzilla versus

1:49:11

Destoroya. Yeah, Destoroya from 1995. But

1:49:14

it's that, ba, ba, ba,

1:49:16

ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba,

1:49:18

ba, ba, like classic. It's

1:49:20

one of the recognizable like monster themes.

1:49:22

Yes. Like, yeah. According

1:49:25

to the director, when he began working on

1:49:27

this film, it was very important to him

1:49:30

that this Godzilla remained close to the themes

1:49:32

of the original film of addressing issues

1:49:34

of war and the proliferation

1:49:36

of nuclear weapons, unlike the

1:49:38

American versions where it is just a monster.

1:49:41

Right, because America's like, no, we don't have anything

1:49:43

to learn through Godzilla movies. Of course not, no.

1:49:46

What would we have to learn about the dangers of

1:49:48

nuclear war? Yeah. The director

1:49:50

also said that the original Godzilla

1:49:52

or Gojira, Mothra and King Ghidorah

1:49:54

and giant monsters all out attack

1:49:57

are their favorite Godzilla movies.

1:49:59

Nice. for me gives me hope that we

1:50:01

will see Mothra in the future. Because

1:50:03

I love Mothra. Paige, I would

1:50:05

love to attend a screening of

1:50:08

this Godzilla versus this universe's Mothra,

1:50:10

wearing Moth wings and like

1:50:12

just dressed as Mothra. It would be great. I would

1:50:14

100% do it. Yes. So

1:50:17

this is the first Godzilla movie to be a

1:50:19

period piece set in the

1:50:21

American submission of Japan a decade before

1:50:23

the original Gojira in 1954. According

1:50:26

to a pamphlet released with a film

1:50:29

in Japan, Shin Godzilla from 2016,

1:50:31

which I have not seen. I need to go

1:50:33

back and watch that one. People say it's great. Was

1:50:35

previously so successful, both critically and

1:50:37

financially, that Toho was struggling to

1:50:39

make a follow-up. So Toho is

1:50:42

the studio that has had Godzilla

1:50:44

rights almost this entire time and

1:50:46

then licensed them out to American

1:50:48

studios. So a lot of proposals

1:50:50

came in to Toho for the

1:50:53

next Godzilla movie, but they didn't think they could

1:50:55

live up to Shin Godzilla, which was

1:50:57

now basically the favorite on the

1:50:59

Japanese timeline. So it wasn't

1:51:01

until Yamazaki who directed this film proposed

1:51:03

making a period piece of the first

1:51:05

instance of Godzilla that Toho agreed and

1:51:07

decided to make a new film. And

1:51:09

boy am I glad they did because

1:51:12

holy shit, it's great. Yeah, man.

1:51:14

And I honestly wanna see like

1:51:16

a brand new track of Godzilla

1:51:18

timelines with this sort of team

1:51:20

and have them make five, three,

1:51:23

five, 12, I don't care, as

1:51:25

many movies as they want because they're great. Yeah,

1:51:27

okay. So when Godzilla is like powering

1:51:29

up, the dorsal plates on his

1:51:31

back shift outwards. They kind of like

1:51:33

click out. That is actually a reference

1:51:35

to Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah, giant

1:51:37

monsters all out attack from 2001 because

1:51:41

the Godzilla suit in that film also had a

1:51:43

mechanism to do that. That's the other thing you

1:51:45

need to know about old Godzilla movies. Most of

1:51:47

them are a dude in a suit and amazing

1:51:49

miniature work. But it's like a

1:51:51

guy in a rubber suit. And yet it's

1:51:54

still, it looks kind of sick. Like

1:51:56

it's great, love it. No notes. Yeah,

1:51:59

no notes. of this Godzilla

1:52:01

was supposed to look like the suits

1:52:03

with the posture more upright rather than leaning

1:52:05

forward. It mixes elements from

1:52:08

a lot of prior films, one of the

1:52:10

strongest being the 90s series

1:52:12

design where that's the generic design Toho had

1:52:15

used for a long time for merchandising, but

1:52:17

it is the one that also gets used

1:52:19

in that giant monsters all out attack from

1:52:21

2001. The

1:52:24

early concept art even gave Godzilla

1:52:26

pupa-less white eyes much like that

1:52:28

version. But ultimately they

1:52:31

gave him the eyes of the older

1:52:33

versions of Godzilla. Man and I'll say this

1:52:35

about those eyes when he is

1:52:37

swimming and chasing them in those boats

1:52:39

and his eyes are just above

1:52:41

the water and the water is

1:52:43

like crusting around his face like

1:52:45

yes it is ominous and scary

1:52:47

like man that would be terrifying.

1:52:49

Yes the name of the protagonist

1:52:51

so uh Koichi's last name Shikishima

1:52:53

is the name of the squadron

1:52:55

that conducted the first successful kamikaze

1:52:57

attack. No shit. So the Shikishima

1:52:59

squadron led by Lieutenant Yukio Seiki

1:53:02

hit and sank the USS St.

1:53:04

Louis in 1944. Okay. So Steven Spielberg loved

1:53:09

this one it's his favorite Godzilla. Oh nice

1:53:12

I mean I could see that because

1:53:14

like he did Jurassic Park and this is a

1:53:16

very like dinosaur version of Godzilla. I like that

1:53:18

that makes sense though. Yeah Yamazaki coming back to

1:53:20

Shin Godzilla which I think that's what I got

1:53:22

to watch next but he said Shin

1:53:24

Godzilla was amazing when Toho asked me if I would do

1:53:27

the next Godzilla movie I could only think I have to

1:53:29

follow that one which is why

1:53:31

he took it in a different direction and made

1:53:33

a period piece. So good call. Yeah

1:53:36

good call. So the appearance in this film

1:53:38

was closely based on the design from a 2021

1:53:41

CGI short film that accompanied

1:53:43

Godzilla the ride which is

1:53:45

an amusement park attraction in

1:53:48

Tokyo I'm gonna struggle. Tokyo

1:53:50

Rosella. Toko Rosella. Sure. And

1:53:53

that short was also directed by the same

1:53:55

director who directed this movie but it was

1:53:57

a throwback to the older era which is

1:54:00

why I think we have so much

1:54:02

adherence to some of the older Godzilla

1:54:04

movies in this one. This

1:54:06

is the second non-English language

1:54:09

film nominated for the Academy

1:54:11

Award for Best Visual Effects.

1:54:13

Nice. Yeah, after All Quiet

1:54:15

on the Western Front from 2022, Godzilla is the first

1:54:17

one to win. But that should

1:54:19

make you upset that it's taken that long.

1:54:22

Also All Quiet on the Western Front is great. Oh

1:54:24

yes, yeah. But yeah, those are your

1:54:27

fun facts. Well thank you for those fun facts,

1:54:29

Paige. Let's talk a little bit about Box Office. Now

1:54:31

I normally ask what you think the budget was for

1:54:33

this film. And Paige, do you have a guess? Oh

1:54:36

man, I bet this was expensive. I

1:54:38

will say there is some controversy, so we'll talk about it.

1:54:40

But if you'd love to guess, I'd love to hear it.

1:54:42

I feel well, and I can only guess

1:54:44

based on what I know this would cost

1:54:46

to make in America. Right, yeah. And I

1:54:48

do know things cost a lot less in

1:54:51

Japan. And we'll talk about it. In America,

1:54:53

this would have cost you $100 million. Probably.

1:54:57

All in, this is Marvel movie money. I

1:54:59

think in Japan, this costs you $40 million.

1:55:02

Yeah, okay, cool. So the controversy

1:55:04

is, it's not really a controversy.

1:55:06

So when they initially made the

1:55:08

movie, it was in yen, right?

1:55:10

And it's just a different budget

1:55:12

over there. Different exchange rate. Yeah.

1:55:15

So the first websites that were reporting a US

1:55:17

dollar amount were websites like Variety and IGN and

1:55:20

The Times and The Hollywood Reporter. And they were

1:55:22

all saying it was 15 million,

1:55:24

roughly 2.2 billion yen. However,

1:55:27

Yamazaki said that the figure was

1:55:29

probably closer to about 10 million

1:55:32

US dollars. Okay. Which

1:55:34

is around 1.5 billion yen. So it's

1:55:37

somewhere between roughly between 10 and 15

1:55:39

million. Looks amazing for

1:55:41

that money. Like every

1:55:43

cent of that is on the screen. Yeah.

1:55:46

Okay, so while I was doing research for this, I

1:55:49

also learned that initially

1:55:51

the final set piece was not

1:55:53

going to happen in the ocean.

1:55:56

The reason that happened was because

1:55:59

one of their graphics. people who worked in that

1:56:01

department was just like rendering water effects

1:56:03

in his spare time at home and

1:56:06

like the director like, hey, we

1:56:08

should use this. Yeah. So

1:56:10

he was like, okay, cool. So he was like,

1:56:12

that's why they moved it to being in the

1:56:14

water. Now doing those effects takes a

1:56:17

lot of computing processing power. Yeah. And it was

1:56:19

like a team of 35. It was like a

1:56:21

small team. So like they worked

1:56:23

very hard on this. And it was like a

1:56:25

petabyte of data for the whole movie. Oh

1:56:28

my God. And like terabytes are an insane

1:56:30

amount of data and a perabyte or petabyte

1:56:32

is like 1024 terabytes.

1:56:35

It's just, it's an insane amount of

1:56:38

data. I have all of the podcast

1:56:40

episodes we've ever done on one four

1:56:42

gigabyte hard drive. Yeah. And

1:56:44

this is for like, it's so much bigger than

1:56:47

that. Anyway, that's so crazy. So I thought that

1:56:49

was super interesting that that's the reason they moved

1:56:51

that final set piece into the water.

1:56:54

Anyway, so this movie premiered in

1:56:56

the U S on December 1st

1:56:59

and it was number three. The

1:57:01

week it came out. Now it

1:57:03

was up against Renaissance a

1:57:05

film by Beyonce page. I saw that

1:57:07

that weekend. I saw Renaissance. That's

1:57:10

how I got butter in my eye. I

1:57:13

forgot that it was at the, at the

1:57:15

Beyonce film. Also Renaissance fucking

1:57:18

great. Of course. Go

1:57:20

watch Renaissance. It's amazing. Of course.

1:57:23

Number two was the Hunger Games, the ballot

1:57:25

of songbirds and snakes, which I would say

1:57:27

that's what you saw. That is what I

1:57:29

saw that weekend. I didn't have the same

1:57:31

reaction that you had to the Beyonce thing.

1:57:33

My eye was unscathed, but I did enjoy

1:57:35

the movie. Sure. Number three

1:57:38

this weekend was obviously Godzilla minus one.

1:57:40

Number four was trolls band together, which

1:57:42

page is a pun because in this

1:57:44

movie, the trolls form a band. I

1:57:46

don't know. I didn't see it, but that's

1:57:48

probably what it is. I don't know the troll universe at all. You're

1:57:51

probably better off for it. Number five

1:57:54

is the movie wish, which

1:57:56

I believe is about Chinese

1:57:58

purchasing website that you can buy

1:58:00

things at a very cheap rate and they

1:58:02

will ship over slowly for you. Like

1:58:05

you buy your movie tickets, but you don't get to watch

1:58:07

the movie until like six weeks later. It's

1:58:09

been on streaming for like a month. Like

1:58:12

this is the last time I run a movie from Teemu. And

1:58:14

you're like, wait, I thought, I thought Matt Damon

1:58:16

was in this, but it's just Jesse Plumbin. That

1:58:20

would be some wish or Teemu type shit,

1:58:22

but it actually is just the Disney movie

1:58:24

wish, which you, I heard good things. Yeah,

1:58:26

I was going to say, which if you

1:58:28

haven't seen, you're in the same boat as

1:58:30

me, but I hear it's great. So what

1:58:32

do you think Godzilla minus one made in

1:58:34

its opening weekend? Opening weekend. Yeah, it

1:58:36

was third. Like 13, 13 million. Yeah,

1:58:40

yeah, you're close. It was actually $11.4 million,

1:58:42

which, which if you believe the director,

1:58:44

that is the director Yamazaki, that is

1:58:46

under the budget. Cause it would be

1:58:48

like right at $10 million is the

1:58:50

budget you said it was. Anyway, um,

1:58:52

if you think it's the Hollywood reporter

1:58:54

one, that's 15 mil, it's still really

1:58:56

good though. That's still an amazing return.

1:58:59

Yeah. Paige, here's another great

1:59:02

anecdote about this movie. Normally movies premiere, they

1:59:04

hit where they hit their first week and

1:59:06

then they slowly drop out. Godzilla

1:59:08

minus one was third in its second week

1:59:10

too, and brought in $8.5 million

1:59:13

in its second week. It just, it

1:59:15

did great. It was fourth, it's third

1:59:17

week out. It was in the top

1:59:19

10 for its first four weeks. Like

1:59:21

it did well in theaters. What

1:59:23

do you think it made domestically at the

1:59:25

box office? And I hate saying domestically, let

1:59:28

me say in the U S because that's

1:59:30

the way this tracks domestically for this movie

1:59:32

would be Japan. Um, I

1:59:34

want to say that like word got out

1:59:37

about this and people knew it was good.

1:59:39

And everyone went to see it in theaters.

1:59:41

My friend Lee told me to see it three

1:59:43

times with him in theaters. And I did listen. I'm

1:59:45

a fool for it, but yeah, he went and saw

1:59:47

it three times. So much so that like we

1:59:49

wanted to do it while it was in theaters,

1:59:51

but it wasn't everywhere. Yeah. And then we had

1:59:53

heard rumors that it was going to come to

1:59:55

streaming. So that's why we tried to do it

1:59:57

during disaster months, but then it wasn't streaming. We've

2:00:00

tried to do this movie a few times. We've tried to do

2:00:02

it a few times. I'm glad we finally got to do it because it was

2:00:04

so good. Me too. I'm gonna say

2:00:06

that this probably made at least 60

2:00:08

mil, which I know sounds low, but

2:00:11

when you think about the initial investment into

2:00:13

what it took to make this movie plus

2:00:16

the fact that it is a foreign language

2:00:18

movie, I think that's incredibly successful. I was

2:00:20

gonna bring that up and you're very very close a

2:00:22

little bit high though. It's 56.4 million

2:00:25

dollars domestically. But I think for a foreign

2:00:27

language film in America, that's great. I

2:00:29

actually watched this and then just to see

2:00:32

what it was like, I watched the first

2:00:34

maybe three or four minutes in the English

2:00:36

dub and it's not bad. So like if

2:00:38

you see an English dub version of this,

2:00:41

it's pretty well acted. I do think

2:00:43

the Japanese version is just better because

2:00:45

you get the actors in the moment's

2:00:48

actual performance. So that's I think better.

2:00:50

I don't like reading my movies either. So

2:00:52

like I get it, but it is a

2:00:54

better performance, I think. Anyway, so it made

2:00:56

56.4 million dollars domestically and

2:00:58

again, that's in the US. Yeah, it's

2:01:00

domestic would be Japan where it made

2:01:02

36.8 million dollars. Great. It

2:01:05

did really well in Japan. It also brought

2:01:07

in a bunch more money from a bunch

2:01:09

of other countries, but internationally if you want

2:01:12

to call it that, it brought in 47.9

2:01:14

million dollars. So this

2:01:16

technically did make 104.3 million dollars in the box

2:01:18

office, which

2:01:21

is a wonderful return on a 15 million

2:01:24

dollar, which is the high end

2:01:26

investment. Right. So yeah, it did

2:01:28

great and it did so well. I'm

2:01:30

sure we get a sequel. And if

2:01:32

that sequel is not called Godzilla minus

2:01:34

two, I'll be livid. I

2:01:37

doubt it. I'm sure it'll be OK. Well,

2:01:39

this makes me sad because Godzilla X-Con,

2:01:41

which is the American one, brought in

2:01:43

567.5 million. But

2:01:48

think about just make the hurt.

2:01:50

Of course, that's how that go. I

2:01:52

mean, think about the people who go to

2:01:54

movies every weekend and like I know the

2:01:56

American track. There is a lane for that.

2:01:59

There are people. Sure, there's nothing

2:02:01

wrong with it. And I like Fast

2:02:03

and Furious 2, so like I probably

2:02:05

would actually enjoy the madness of those

2:02:07

movies. But also please watch

2:02:09

this one. Exactly. Like, this

2:02:12

is, I think, a great

2:02:14

fucking film. I think

2:02:16

Godzilla vs. Kong is, I'm sure, a great movie. Probably

2:02:19

a fun movie. Yes. Yeah, exactly.

2:02:21

But you guys gotta see this

2:02:23

fucking film. Yeah, you gotta see Minus

2:02:25

1. It's so good. To me, they're almost,

2:02:27

and this is like an ideological discussion, so

2:02:30

forgive me for jumping into it, but I

2:02:32

think that they're honestly two different art forms

2:02:34

in a way. Yes, 100%. Movies

2:02:36

are like pure entertainment, and films

2:02:38

like this are like, how can

2:02:40

we emotionally convey a story? And

2:02:42

those, to me, are almost two

2:02:44

different asks in the same medium,

2:02:47

which is, you know, film. Yeah. Or movies,

2:02:49

or like moving pictures. Anyway, but I think

2:02:51

there's a lane for both clearly, and Godzilla

2:02:53

vs. Kong or whatever is gonna make a

2:02:55

shitload of money. I'm glad that people are

2:02:57

okay with having both. Yeah, they do. Does that

2:02:59

make sense? Because a lot of times, just like

2:03:01

the American one would take over because it makes

2:03:03

more money, I'm glad that we still have, essentially,

2:03:06

two sets of Godzilla tracks, Yes.

2:03:08

and a real mediocre TV show

2:03:10

that started out so good, but

2:03:13

then like really fell off, so,

2:03:15

you know. How dare you talk

2:03:17

about Game of Thrones like that. But Paige, that's

2:03:19

your box office. Do you want to

2:03:21

hit us with that scary scale? Sure, the

2:03:23

scary scale is a scale for how scary

2:03:25

we found the movie when we watched it

2:03:28

today. One being Ghost Bost-

2:03:30

Ghost Bosters! Ghost Bosters! Is that

2:03:32

the female version? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Girl

2:03:35

Bosters. One being

2:03:37

Ghostbusters, the other being Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

2:03:39

Todd. This is a one. I mean,

2:03:41

I did jump at that one point, but it's

2:03:43

not super scary. It's just like a quick little

2:03:45

jump moment. Yeah, this is a one for

2:03:48

me too. But on the like quality scale, it's

2:03:50

a 12. Yeah, it's

2:03:52

definitely up there. It is as high

2:03:54

as Godzilla's ankles would have to be

2:03:57

if he's not half duck. That's all

2:03:59

I'm saying. Right, exactly. Yeah, I feel you. It's

2:04:01

good. So Todd, do you have a review for us?

2:04:04

You know what, Paige? I did

2:04:06

bring one up. And you're welcome.

2:04:08

So this week I'm gonna read

2:04:10

JF DR I J D Y

2:04:12

J F. I don't know what

2:04:15

that means, but that's that. And it's really quick, it's

2:04:17

really short. The title of the review

2:04:19

is hilarious. Love them, 5 stars. That's

2:04:22

the full thing. And I love a good,

2:04:24

like, short, quality review. So thank you for

2:04:26

that. I'm also gonna read

2:04:28

our most recent Spotify comment that

2:04:31

was off the guest episode. It's

2:04:33

actually not the most recent. It

2:04:35

was the very first. And the

2:04:37

only reason I point that out

2:04:39

is because this comment came so

2:04:41

soon after we dropped the episode.

2:04:43

Pretty sure they couldn't have finished

2:04:45

it by the time they wrote

2:04:47

it. And this comment comes from

2:04:49

Aaron and they say, a perfect

2:04:51

episode for one of my favorite

2:04:53

movies. But since it was mentioned,

2:04:55

you have to do Abigail. Yes. Dan

2:04:58

Stevens is having the time of his life in

2:05:00

that one. Yes. I really

2:05:02

want to do Abigail. I

2:05:04

mean, I'm game for whatever. But I mean, I'm

2:05:06

sure we'll get to it at some point. But

2:05:08

Aaron, thank you so much for that Spotify comment.

2:05:10

And thank you so much for that 5 star

2:05:12

review. And if you want to have me read

2:05:14

your Spotify comment or 5 star review, please, please

2:05:16

do leave us a 5 star review and or

2:05:18

comment. We need to know once, guys. Let's do

2:05:20

this. Spotify, we always get Spotify comments every week.

2:05:22

We don't always get reviews every week, which makes

2:05:24

me sad. I'm like, where are my Apple people

2:05:26

at? Yeah, come on, Apple people. So this week,

2:05:28

Paige, you made us watch Minus One and like,

2:05:30

listen, thank you so much. You changed my life.

2:05:33

I should have listened to my buddy Lee once

2:05:35

you changed my life. I should have listened to

2:05:37

my buddy Lee. But what are

2:05:39

you making us watch next week? Hey, guys,

2:05:41

Future Todd breaking in here because Paige had

2:05:43

not yet decided what she was going to

2:05:45

make me watch next week. So she

2:05:48

just let me know that we will be

2:05:50

watching 20 24's

2:05:52

Sting, which apparently is a movie about

2:05:54

a spider and not the guy who

2:05:57

played bass in the police. But

2:05:59

that's your question. homework for next week guys check

2:06:01

out the movie Sting and then report back for

2:06:03

that episode. So guys if

2:06:05

you like this show but want to hear

2:06:07

Paige and I talk about romantic comedies or

2:06:09

just regular romantic movies check out our other

2:06:12

podcast some might call it a sister podcast

2:06:14

called Romancing the Pod where we do just

2:06:16

that weekly. It's a lot like this show

2:06:18

but for romance and romantic comedies because Paige

2:06:20

doesn't like them so we like make her

2:06:22

watch them just like you guys make me

2:06:25

watch horror over here. But if

2:06:27

you want to follow me I am at

2:06:29

Todd J. Awesome and all the social media

2:06:31

Paige is at Rampage Wesley on Instagram? Yes

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and TikTok. And TikTok and just

2:06:36

Paige Wesley on Twitter because you got that

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before some CEO lady and she wanted it

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but she wouldn't give it back and I

2:06:42

respect you for that. Refuse. Also

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Paige is. Junk it other Paige Wesley. Paige

2:06:47

is also on another podcast it's great you

2:06:49

check it out it's called Cult Podcast with

2:06:51

Armando Torres who is a wonderful person. And

2:06:53

if you want to support this show go

2:06:55

to patreon at patreon.com/horror virgin where there are

2:06:58

a lot of great levels and a lot

2:07:00

of great things. We do the patreon shout

2:07:02

outs at the beginning of every episode we

2:07:04

do listener requests stuff like that bonus episodes

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so you'll be getting all of that content

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plus episodes a day early with no ads

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and who doesn't love that. So sign up

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for the patreon and get a lot of

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great stuff. Great that's gonna be it

2:07:16

for us you guys on Paige. And I'm your horror virgin Todd.

2:07:18

Keep it oogie spooky. Yeah

2:07:20

have an amazing week. Bye. Bye.

2:07:24

Godzilla is definitely part duck fight

2:07:26

me nerd.

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