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about that and other things daily. It was
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my dress, my blue dress, with all the
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flowers and rainbows and whatever on it. And
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it was just cut lower than I usually
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do, and I had to put tape on,
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but then the tape didn't really So thankfully,
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the dress was well-made enough that it
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held the girls in. But yeah, he
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was just like, damn! Hey,
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girl, you look damn good tonight. I'm about to go
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up on stage for 20 minutes to tell a bunch of
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lies about how you don't, but I need you to know
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the truth right now. You look damn good, damn!
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And then just walked away. You know when
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someone goes, damn! Like yells, and then gets
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real quiet, that they're about to say something
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sexual. They're like into it. I'm about to
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tell you the truth. Yeah. Hi! Controversial
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statement. This is better than Oppenheimer,
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and I'll stand on that. Yeah,
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of course it's better than Oppenheimer.
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It's a movie. Ha ha
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ha ha ha ha! Thank you for
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tuning into Horror Virgin, I'm Pace. And I'm your Horror
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Virgin Todd, which means I don't like scary movies,
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but you guys make me watch them. And this
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week, Paige made us watch Godzilla
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Motherhood! The Motherhood! The
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Motherhood! All right, when was the first
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time you saw this, Paige? Last night, and I'm
3:30
glad that I watched it last night, because if
3:32
I had watched it this morning, I
3:34
would have come in still crying, because I cried for
3:36
a good 20 to 30 minutes after
3:39
this movie. I have not cried that hard
3:41
in a movie, since everything everywhere all at
3:43
once. And you know what? I'm not ashamed
3:45
of it. Also, we should mention, we originally
3:47
did have a guest for today, but then
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they tested positive for COVID yesterday. Yeah,
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they sent us a voice message, and they were
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like, I can't make it, I have COVID. And
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we were like, that's cool, bro, we can get you on another
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one. believed you
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even if it was just that we'll figure it
4:04
out it's fine yeah like you could
4:06
just reschedule bro you don't have to
4:08
like pretend to have COVID anyway
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so yeah so I watched this last night I
4:15
had wanted to see this in theaters but timing
4:17
was not on my side it was when we
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were traveling a bunch yeah Mikey and I at
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one point we're gonna try and see it in
4:23
Kansas City it didn't work out and so like
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I was glad to finally watch this I wish
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I had seen this in theaters me too
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I am a Toho films Godzilla nerd
4:32
like I know there's American Godzilla I'm
4:34
not as interested in it mainly the
4:36
Japanese Godzilla is what I am interested
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in it's the channel that Jake and
4:40
I keep on the TV most often
4:42
we have like a Samsung TV with
4:44
a bunch of like random channels or
4:46
like Pluto with a bunch of channels
4:48
and there's one that's just Godzilla hell
4:50
yeah like all Kaiju's and usually we
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keep that on because it'll be like
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all the the like 60 70s
4:57
80s Godzilla movies but
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then also it'll do other ones like
5:01
Gamera and like a bunch of other
5:03
Kaiju's and they always show the Mothra
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ones and I love Mothra so
5:07
like I always forget you're a Mothra
5:09
stan page Mothra is canonically
5:11
good and is on the
5:13
side of good and to
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be honest Godzilla is chaotic
5:17
neutral he is not a
5:20
villain but rather Godzilla is
5:22
a representation of man's hubris
5:24
of science and also America
5:26
depending on which era of
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Japanese Godzilla you are watching
5:30
you kind of get both of that in this one
5:32
you do that
5:34
is really good yeah
5:37
so yeah Godzilla is chaotic neutral and Mothra
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is Godzilla's friend and so often Mothra has
5:41
to show up and be like Godzilla you
5:43
gotta stop fucking up Tokyo like we hey
5:46
hear me out bro I know you're upset
5:48
a different city already
5:50
like guy well he
5:52
does in this movie he gets Ginza too
5:55
but so like I love Mothra and
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also like space Godzilla and baby Godzilla
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I- all of it. It gets weird, I fucking
6:02
love it, and I feel like the one thing
6:04
that the Japanese Godzilla movies do so much better
6:06
than the American ones, not that the American ones
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are bad, if you like them, great. There's some
6:10
of Armando Torres' favorite. Yeah, I mean, if you're
6:12
like, into Transformers, that's your
6:14
lane for Godzilla. Yeah. That's
6:17
your lane for Godzilla. The
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Japanese Godzilla films really
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work to try and illustrate
6:24
what Godzilla really means about
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man's condition as a whole.
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And the people stories around
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it. The Godzilla movies are
6:34
never just about, oh, crazy, it's
6:36
Godzilla. It's always like, we had
6:38
an interpersonal problem and now Godzilla
6:40
is also here. And how
6:42
does this also reflect what we're dealing with?
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Yeah. They're much more human stories,
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like emotional stories, whereas
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the American ones are like,
6:51
fast and the furious with Godzilla. Yes.
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Hey, nothing wrong with that, but I
6:57
prefer this kind of Godzilla. No,
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when Godzilla looks over at Mothra at the
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end of that last one, and it's like,
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it's been a long day,
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and Mothra turns off the interstate, and
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then you see Godzilla out the corner
7:10
of the, I don't know, Dodge Durango
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he's driving, like a single tear as
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he rolls the window up and then
7:16
gets launched into space. I don't know.
7:18
They're weird movies. Mothra has
7:20
fairies that announced Mothra's arrival and
7:22
departure, and they're like two
7:24
fairies that they like carry in a cage
7:27
and they're like you have to sing Mothra.
7:29
They're like, Mothra is here, Mothra is
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here, Mothra is great. It's
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awesome. Watch the old Godzilla movies.
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They're amazing. This is
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not only probably the best Godzilla
7:40
movie I've ever seen, hands down.
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The best one I've ever seen, hands down. That's easy
7:45
to say. It might be the
7:47
best movie I saw this year
7:49
so far. Oh, shit. At least.
7:51
I wasn't thinking in those terms, but
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it might be. Yeah, like it's really
7:55
good. It's so good. I was
7:57
like, I was not ready. Me
8:00
either page. I watched it this morning
8:02
and I balled like four or five
8:04
times so many times I was Balling
8:07
in this movie one of my best
8:09
friends Lee. He's the husband in my
8:11
best friend couple Lee and Whitney Uh-huh.
8:13
He loves Godzilla movies. He's like a
8:15
Godzilla stan He's the reason I've been
8:17
to Japan like this made me want to go back to Japan
8:20
hard game same I was like
8:22
somebody to help rebuild Tokyo, but like all
8:24
of this he like loves Japanese
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culture and all that stuff He has always been
8:28
my entry to it. He loves Godzilla So
8:31
like when he was like you've got to
8:33
go see it not only is it the
8:35
best Godzilla movie I've ever seen it Might
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be one of the best movies I've ever
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seen in my mind. I was like Lee
8:41
you just love Godzilla movies Like that's just
8:43
what this is and I was like, I'm
8:45
sure I'll have to watch it for the
8:47
podcast I'll just wait for that. Yes. I
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wish I had seen this Lee. I'm so sorry.
8:52
You were right Yeah, I should have seen this
8:54
in the theaters He saw it three times and
8:56
invited me every time and every time I was
8:58
like I can I understand Why
9:01
you would just go see this multiple
9:03
times? I might watch it again today
9:05
with James. It's in theaters ever again
9:07
I'll go see it like it's
9:09
so good. It's Beautifully
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shot to like yeah, there are
9:14
some shots in this that are
9:16
so good I'm just like I
9:18
don't even know how they fucking did this and
9:21
I can't I can't explain it
9:23
It looks beautiful. Yeah, it's so
9:25
good There are and it's also
9:28
like so well written like there
9:30
are so many like one-liners that
9:32
just hit Emotionally. Oh my
9:35
god, like when he says but my
9:37
war is over. I was like, oh
9:40
It's not it's not and
9:42
then when she and the end when
9:44
she says is your war finally over
9:47
I Weep
9:49
I was crying so hard. It
9:51
was man It's just so good
9:53
when he's trying to convince the mechanic to help and he's
9:56
like I know your war is not over either and you're
9:58
just like yeah The
10:01
war crushed everyone! And
10:03
like to get a miracle you don't stand
10:06
by and wait for one. Like, love that
10:08
line. It's just such
10:10
a well-written movie. Anyway, I owe my friend
10:12
Lee a huge apology because he was absolutely
10:14
right. I should have seen this in theaters.
10:17
And man, I loved it. I really thought
10:19
it was amazing. Now, the only other Godzilla
10:21
movie I've seen all the way through is
10:24
the Matthew Broderick masterpiece Godzilla from
10:26
I think the late 90s. So
10:29
this is easily my favorite Godzilla movie
10:32
that I've seen all the way through.
10:34
But I have a question. Because I
10:36
don't know a lot about Godzilla lore
10:38
or canon or whatever. But
10:42
he seems, he's like the Madonna
10:44
of the monster world. Because he's
10:46
been good, he's been bad, he's
10:48
been an anti-hero. You know, he's
10:50
been a monster that just wants
10:53
to like unleash his anger on
10:55
the public. Sure. Just
10:57
like Madonna, right? So like,
11:01
is this movie a departure from any of
11:03
that? Or is it more like playing in
11:06
just one of those many lanes? Because it
11:08
doesn't feel like he's necessarily evil. No. It
11:11
feels like he's more or less an animal, you know?
11:13
That's how the Japanese Godzilla films view
11:15
Godzilla. If he is an
11:17
animal responding to animal stimuli most
11:20
of the time. They get a
11:22
little weirder as they go when you get into like
11:24
Space Godzilla, Baby Godzilla, Mecha Godzilla, you know. Space
11:26
Godzilla! That's all I hear every time you
11:29
say Space Godzilla and I can't stop thinking
11:31
about it. Space Godzilla and Baby Godzilla
11:33
are the same movie where Space Godzilla has
11:36
crystals on his back. It's very dope. Oh,
11:38
so he's a drug addict? He's got that crystal
11:40
on his back? No, he's fabulous.
11:42
He's fabulous. Wait, did
11:44
this come out like late 80s, early 90s?
11:46
Because then here for it. Earlier. Oh,
11:49
okay. This is like probably mid 80s. Let
11:51
me look it up. Hold on. Let me get a list. I
11:54
do however, now that we're sort of talking
11:56
about this, I really do think I'd like
11:58
those movies that you're talking about where it's
12:00
like like Mothra and Godzilla are friends or
12:02
whatever. I think I'd really enjoy those because
12:04
they sound very campy. I just haven't seen
12:06
them. Yeah, so a lot of them are, so there's
12:09
a bunch that are made in the 50s and 60s. I've
12:13
heard a lot about those. My favorites. Those
12:15
are your favorites? Yes, like that's where Mothra
12:17
versus Godzilla, like the first one is 1964.
12:21
And it looks very 1964. The original
12:23
Godzilla, AKA Gojira, is 1954. And
12:26
that's where we get the original
12:28
look, the original score, the like
12:30
all of it. And that movie
12:32
is a commentary on the use
12:35
of the atomic bomb in Japan.
12:37
Like it's not just a fucking
12:39
monster movie, people. It has layers.
12:41
And then as you get further into
12:44
the like 50s and 60s, you've
12:46
got Mothra versus Godzilla, Ghidorah, who's a
12:48
three-headed dragon, and then Invasion of the
12:50
Astro Monsters. Like there's a ton of
12:53
them. When do we get into space?
12:55
Oh, Mecha Godzilla is 75. There
12:58
are 74 and 75. So
13:00
there's two. Of course. Mecha Godzilla is
13:02
a concept you have to double tap. You gotta
13:04
do two. Of course. Megalon
13:07
is like a giant like bug.
13:09
And then Gigan is like a
13:11
giant like dragon thing. King Ghidorah
13:14
versus Mothra in 1992 is amazing.
13:17
That's probably one of the best ones. Okay. And
13:20
then Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla two is 93. Space
13:23
Godzilla is 94. Okay. So
13:25
yeah. Wild. Yeah, all right, awesome.
13:27
I'll have to check some of these out because I'm
13:30
sure I'd like them based upon your description of them.
13:32
They are campy and weird. But it is
13:34
also always like, Godzilla is still always here
13:36
to teach us a lesson. It's
13:39
kind of weird. And then if you
13:41
get super into Godzilla, you'll eventually get
13:43
into Gamera, who is a
13:46
giant turtle with jetpack legs. I've
13:48
heard of Gamera. Yeah. Yeah. And
13:50
he always has his own theme songs, which
13:53
are my favorite. And they're translated, so it's
13:55
not quite the same. But like the subtitles,
13:57
it's just like, Gamera, he's the best with
13:59
his. pack legs he's gonna
14:01
fuck shit up like basically that
14:03
but with like a choir of
14:06
children singing it and they're just
14:08
like I just
14:10
get you amped man like I fucking
14:12
love gamma let's go I love it but
14:14
no I would say this is not
14:17
a departure okay I would say that
14:19
this is in line with the original
14:21
Godzilla story and lore and
14:23
I would say based upon what
14:25
you're saying also style because yeah
14:28
this is a Godzilla movie but
14:30
it also has a very like
14:32
survivors guilt heavy underlying
14:34
message that like really broke me
14:36
like this movie like built like
14:39
broke me down and built me back up again it was
14:41
it was rough yeah I feel like if
14:43
the original 1954 Gojira is a commentary on
14:45
the American
14:48
impact on Japan following the
14:51
war yeah I feel like
14:53
this movie is a commentary
14:56
on Japan rebuilding itself and
14:58
the overall spirit of Japan
15:00
yeah after the war because
15:03
we deal with so many
15:05
themes in this movie survivors
15:07
guilt is absolutely one of
15:09
them but also the the
15:11
humanity of not always being brave yeah
15:14
and to fully you know get to
15:16
a place of healing you have to
15:18
not only forgive others but forgive yourself
15:21
and like when you stop valuing
15:23
the lives of those around you
15:25
then you have lost the point
15:28
of fighting anyway it's like yeah
15:30
this kind of fighting is only
15:32
worth doing if we're trying to
15:35
save as many people as possible
15:37
and like oh every
15:39
part of it so good so good
15:41
like beautifully done
15:43
oh yeah I also thought it was crazy at
15:46
the end of this movie it reveals that
15:48
you know Noriko like had to get Godzilla to
15:50
keep attacking Tokyo I would
15:53
let go of his survivors
15:55
just fucking mayor they have
15:57
a daughter page they
15:59
already have a daughter. Why was it
16:01
not slam street all the time? They
16:03
had a daughter. I mean because I
16:05
think he had a lot of trauma
16:07
around his parents dying for
16:10
layers that we will get into in the movie.
16:12
Like it made a lot of sense. Yeah but
16:14
they lived together for years
16:16
and she definitely seems
16:18
down. She's definitely down. I
16:20
also think that like him trying
16:22
to go save her in Ginza
16:24
is him saying I'm down too.
16:26
Like I can't believe I waited
16:28
this long. I completely agree
16:31
and I think that that's why the story
16:33
has to like quote kill her in that
16:35
moment. I mean right that's not what happens
16:37
but that's what we think happens right so
16:39
that she can like be taken out of
16:41
the movie because he's learning that lesson. Oh
16:43
and then when he gets the funeral and
16:45
says like how foolish of me
16:47
to think I could ever dream again.
16:49
I was like I was just like
16:51
crying my eyes out because this guy
16:53
is just like honestly it's the kind
16:56
of stuff that if your friend said
16:58
he had been through it you'd be
17:00
like I'm gonna google it because there's
17:02
definitely new stories about it and it
17:04
sounds too outlandish. So like listen Gabby
17:06
google it. This is a joke for just me.
17:11
Yeah. For me the thing that
17:13
made me cry the hardest was
17:17
when because the mechanic comes works
17:19
on the plane they kind of
17:22
like visually hint that there's probably
17:24
an ejector seat but they don't
17:26
confirm it until like he does
17:28
he makes it out and the
17:31
mechanic like his sob of relief
17:33
paid. I mean fully was weeping
17:35
at that point because you see his POV
17:37
he's like looking down on Godzilla. That pretty
17:40
much we can just say he alone killed
17:42
because all the people on the ships did
17:44
was like send him on a little bit
17:46
of a like ride. They
17:48
pretty much put him on the tower
17:51
of terror in water. That's all they
17:53
did to Godzilla. Like that plan failed
17:55
spectacularly and then he's like I'm gonna
17:58
force feed it some bombs. and
18:00
they and he killed it. And blow
18:03
the top of his head off. Yeah,
18:05
so he's like falling down into where
18:07
Godzilla is like just falling apart. Yeah.
18:09
Knowing that that is the most irradiated
18:11
water and he has like months
18:14
to live after that. It is like
18:16
Fukushima ground zero in there and he's
18:18
landing. We don't talk about that. No,
18:20
we just yada yada yada. But in
18:22
Godzilla Mine is 2, they better have
18:25
a cure. Or how about this?
18:27
Because he becomes part Godzilla.
18:29
Hang on, let's talk about it. Lisa
18:32
and Al-Gaib. Is he
18:34
about to become the half Godzilla,
18:36
half man god emperor? Is that
18:39
what's happening? Better than a
18:41
worm god. Ask Leto too, nerds.
18:43
Yes. Sorry. That joke may be
18:45
a little bit above your heads but your kids are gonna love
18:47
it. Your kids are gonna love it? Once they
18:49
finally get through all those dune movies? Yeah, once they
18:51
get through the next few dune movies. For me
18:54
it was because obviously
18:56
that mechanic has held
18:58
resentment against him for
19:00
so long. And like- Oh,
19:02
the forgiveness in that gesture. Yes. Of
19:04
like even providing him the option. Like
19:06
hey, I don't know what your full
19:09
plan is. Yeah. I definitely would understand.
19:11
Yeah. You wanting to die in this
19:13
situation and using that last act as
19:15
a way to save a lot of
19:17
other people. Yeah. Not cool. But I
19:19
think you're worth being around and I've
19:22
seen you literally at what you see
19:24
is your most shameful moments. Right? Yep.
19:26
And I still think you are worth
19:28
having in this world. Yep. So here
19:30
is an ejector seat. If you choose
19:33
to use it, please do. There are those of us
19:35
here that love you. And it is
19:37
like, he doesn't say any of that
19:39
but that is the subtext in that
19:41
very simple, sweet, so emotional
19:43
gesture. Like, they and I are like
19:45
trying not to cry right now. I'm
19:47
full crying. I know. Paige, Paige, I
19:49
don't know how I'm going to get
19:51
through it without crying either. There are
19:54
so many moments like that though. Like
19:56
that is just one of the amazing
19:58
emotional moments this movie builds. And
20:00
like they ain't doing this shit
20:03
in I don't know Kong versus
20:05
Godzilla versus space or whatever Yeah,
20:07
no, they're they're not They're
20:09
not doing this in Godzilla versus Kong
20:11
that's coming out later this year or
20:13
just came out I don't remember whatever
20:15
they're not this this kind of deep
20:18
human condition Conversation not
20:20
happening in those movies,
20:23
but that's why this one is great This
20:26
kind of makes me think of so yesterday
20:28
I had a half day at work and
20:30
so Andre I get it because that and
20:32
I went on a craft adventure Oh nice
20:34
to remainders in Pasadena, which is this fun
20:36
craft store where people donate craft supplies. They
20:39
don't use That's a great name for that store.
20:41
Well done Yeah So you then like shop, you
20:43
know other people stuff that they don't want
20:45
to use and so we went and Andrea
20:47
in the car Was talking about how much
20:49
she loves the movie prey. It's great And
20:51
I feel like this in some ways reminds
20:53
me of prey because prey is a very
20:55
human movie About fucking predator
20:57
and like yeah in this it's like
21:00
we have a very human
21:02
affecting Well-written war
21:04
movie that Godzilla is also
21:07
in yes, so like Yeah,
21:12
so good it really is guys if you haven't seen
21:14
this movie see this movie even we watch Right
21:17
now it's Now
21:20
I I want a thousand sequels to
21:22
this So please go watch this movie like the
21:24
team that made this movie should make movies forever.
21:26
They're great Yeah for every Godzilla
21:28
versus Kong neon pink and blue
21:31
Weirdness we get please give me two
21:33
of these. Oh, but Kong has
21:35
an iron mechanical fist page.
21:38
That's kind of cool Okay, I'm back in
21:40
but like it's not the same as this
21:42
the second you talk about a large
21:45
Shoulder refigure fisting pages like
21:47
fisting pages like here for
21:49
it No, I just like
21:51
I like power gloves. That's like congo's so
21:53
fun My pair I was at a parents
21:56
house and they gave me a whole box of old Michael Crichton
21:58
books that I loved as a high schooler and I I was
22:00
like, do you guys have Congo? And they're like, we have to. And
22:02
it was like the one book they didn't have. And so I have
22:04
to now go find a copy of Congo somewhere. All I'm
22:06
hearing is you tell me the story of the
22:09
time you didn't realize your dad stole a book
22:11
from you. Like why would
22:13
he ever return Congo? I
22:16
see you dad. I
22:18
know you've got Congo. I know it's there.
22:20
Maybe we could just go through this movie scene
22:22
by scene though. Amy mad, Amy want
22:25
Congo. Yes,
22:27
let's go through this brilliant not
22:29
Congo movie seen by scene. Congo
22:31
is brilliant for different reasons, but
22:33
let. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We open on
22:35
a Japanese fighter plane flying towards an
22:37
island. We watch as the landing gear
22:40
deploys. And there is a bomb under
22:42
it that has not been dropped. We
22:44
cut to the landing. The cockpit opens.
22:47
The pilot is breathing heavy, clearly distressed.
22:51
And we get a little chiron that
22:53
says 1945 Odo
22:55
Island airfield, final days of World War II.
22:58
He gets out of the plane. And
23:01
we kind of get a chance to talk with
23:03
him and some of the mechanics where
23:05
the lead mechanic knows this
23:09
pilot from training. And the
23:11
army knows that he's a great shot. He was
23:13
a good marksman and a very talented pilot. And
23:15
he's like, I was glad you were able to
23:18
land it. Let's see what's wrong with it. And
23:20
be grateful for some of the downtime. And so
23:22
the pilot goes to sit. The mechanic approaches him.
23:24
What is probably a couple hours later and is
23:27
like, hey. Yeah, because the other mechanics just told
23:29
that head mechanic, like there's nothing wrong with this plane,
23:31
man. There's nothing wrong with this plane. And
23:33
so the head mechanic comes over and is like,
23:35
hey, there's nothing wrong with your plane. And I
23:37
think you know that. And the
23:40
pilot is like, what are you implying? And he
23:42
just says, I get it. And we
23:44
need more people like you. Because why
23:46
obey an order to quote unquote when
23:49
the outcome is clear. So there are
23:51
two mechanics. The first one's like looking
23:53
down on him. Like you're a coward.
23:55
Fuck you for not doing your duty
23:58
or whatever. And so he. He walks
24:00
away and what the other mechanic says is
24:02
more or less what you just said and
24:04
that is like Yes, we need more people
24:06
like you because it's not at this point.
24:08
We've lost the war more or less, right?
24:11
There's no point in you dying as well,
24:13
right? Yeah, your life has value
24:15
Yeah, basically which is like it's cool to
24:17
see both sides of that immediately But he
24:19
gets a lot of shit right for not
24:21
killing himself for his country here And I
24:23
think that that's fucking bullshit. Yeah, I was
24:25
so mad for him like the adjust the
24:27
seen us of that I hated it well
24:29
and and he gets it for a huge
24:32
portion of the beginning of the movie Yeah
24:34
But I think it's one of the things
24:36
that it is a theme in the movie
24:38
and a changing attitude of everyone as the
24:41
movie goes On yes, it is like, you
24:43
know, everyone is worth something And
24:45
so whenever we can say live we
24:47
can literally say it later Doc says
24:49
it later. Yes He's like the country did
24:52
not treat our lives with respects during the
24:54
war like he literally just says that Yes,
24:56
and that is the changing like at that
24:58
point that is the viewpoint of the movie.
25:01
Yeah, but at the very beginning here It's
25:03
very like why didn't you do your duty?
25:05
It's very unhonorable what you have done. Yeah,
25:08
not kill yourself You were a kamikaze pilot.
25:10
Yeah, you shouldn't we should never see you
25:12
again You should never be able to introduce
25:14
yourself as a former kamikaze pilot, right in
25:16
the eyes of the people in this movie
25:19
Yeah, right. Although it is a weird business
25:21
card to receive but yeah, and there are some
25:23
who survived It did
25:25
happen a couple times to me like the idea of
25:28
literally strapping a bomb to yourself and
25:30
flying into something because of Your
25:33
Emperor is telling you to do like to me
25:35
that's in that is insane I understand that there
25:37
are people who do that and choose that and
25:39
they think it's honorable and awesome I'm glad that
25:41
that's what they chose or whatever like that is
25:44
Truly a foreign concept to me
25:46
and I think in this case and historically
25:48
in the case of a lot of these
25:50
pilots It was maybe not their choice because
25:53
initially that's not what they signed up for. I
25:55
know that's what I'm saying Yeah, and so I
25:57
think with Koichi we're seeing a case of He
26:00
wanted to be a fighter pilot and then
26:02
was conscripted into being a kamikaze pilot in
26:05
the last days of the war and Couldn't
26:07
do it. He just could not do it.
26:09
He's like so human I get
26:11
it I think that everyone is telling
26:13
him that this is the most Unbrave thing
26:15
he's never done and I think this is one
26:18
of the most brave things he ever did right
26:20
because he was like, okay My Emperor went from
26:22
being the head of my government to more or
26:24
less Osama bin Laden and is telling me to
26:26
fly into like structures to blow them up Right
26:29
that person does not respect me or my life.
26:31
I no longer work for that person. You know
26:33
what I'm saying? Yeah I think
26:35
that that is incredibly brave when the
26:37
result of that in a lot of
26:39
countries during this time was you getting
26:42
shot Yes them shooting you like yeah,
26:44
I get it I'm definitely on his side for
26:46
not doing this that being said
26:49
I would have been okay with at the
26:51
end of this movie him making the choice
26:53
to do that Because of what he has
26:55
been through because it was his choice You
26:57
know I'm saying so like yes, I was
27:00
there with him on both sides of that I
27:02
think this is why the mechanic part
27:04
is so affecting Yeah, because he doesn't
27:07
tell him about the ejector seat until
27:09
he hears him basically being like this
27:11
is my choice for my daughter Yeah,
27:13
because I want because I got you paid. I'm
27:15
trying to cry too because this is I want
27:17
her to have a future and like Godzilla
27:21
is blowing up large sections of
27:23
the city with what is essentially
27:25
a mushroom cloud of You know
27:28
radiation so like radiation heat ray
27:30
that I thought was great that it was
27:32
silent instead of the Inception of want in
27:34
this one in the American was as a
27:36
noise a very Specific
27:38
noise the Pacific Rim nuke
27:40
noise probably yes. Yeah, and then
27:43
this one. It's just Silence you're just
27:45
like it's almost more terrifying I like
27:47
it because in my mind it is making
27:49
a sound it is just something that
27:51
we cannot Necessarily hear and the gravity
27:54
of the moment takes it away. You
27:56
know right and I I like that
27:58
I think that I think that that's
28:00
very cool. Yeah, but regardless he's
28:02
now on this island, yeah, feeling
28:04
horrible about himself. Like and the
28:06
actor playing Koichi does such a
28:08
good job because like very little
28:10
is said about his mental state
28:13
right now and you get it,
28:15
you know. You just know that
28:17
he's like embarrassed, he doesn't
28:19
want to be there, he doesn't
28:21
know what he's gonna do because
28:23
if anyone tells the army that
28:26
he abandoned his post, he's probably
28:28
gonna die. Like it's not good.
28:30
Yeah. And then night falls and
28:33
like an air raid siren goes off
28:36
and they're like get the guns, is
28:38
it the Americans, what's happening? They light
28:40
the beach and it's fucking
28:42
Godzilla. Yeah. And a smaller
28:44
Godzilla that's important to note
28:46
because the implication of all
28:49
Godzilla stories is that
28:51
Godzilla was a much smaller animal.
28:53
Yeah. That then has drastically increased
28:55
in size and radioactive
28:57
abilities because of the atomic
29:00
bomb. Yeah and we sort of see
29:02
that. It does it in I think a very
29:04
clever way. Very subtle way, yeah. And probably because
29:06
it would have been very expensive to shoot it
29:09
and to have it in the movie. So
29:11
they sort of do it through news reels
29:13
and stuff but it does get irradiated by
29:15
the Americans later. Yes. But it doesn't it
29:17
doesn't go towards America, it goes back towards
29:19
Japan. Which right I'm sure is where it
29:21
lives because the people of this islands know
29:23
it, they have named it. Yeah. And they
29:25
know that the deep sea fish that he
29:27
sees sort of like the afternoon before it
29:30
shows up, those always show up
29:32
before us. It's one of those yeah like
29:34
warning signs that it's here. And the village
29:36
knows that. Yeah. Like he gets that information
29:39
from people in the village. Yeah. And it's
29:41
creepy too because they're like deep sea fish
29:43
where like their swim bladder is inflated and
29:45
that's why they're at the top. Like that's
29:47
why they're floating up. And they don't have
29:49
eyes because it's so dark down there. It's
29:51
just like yeah it's it's it is weird
29:53
looking. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. It's otherworldly at
29:56
least. Yeah. So as he's
29:58
seen the fish, the aerate siren off,
30:00
they light the beach, it's Godzilla. You
30:02
don't see Godzilla in full light much
30:04
during this scene which I think is
30:07
a very good choice.
30:09
I loved it. Because this is
30:11
legitimately scary. Like this whole scene.
30:13
Man when they first reveal it, when he's
30:15
like turning the light on it and shines
30:18
on it, I jumped. It scared me. Yeah.
30:20
Now that's the kind of scare that really
30:22
gets me typically so that shouldn't surprise anybody
30:24
but it really got me. And the rest
30:26
of this is shot honestly a lot like
30:28
Jurassic Park. They're treating it like a big
30:30
dinosaur because that's sort of the size of
30:32
it. Right? Right. And like of course all
30:34
of the mechanics who do have guns, it's
30:36
a military base but they like run to
30:38
a ditch more or less. Like a foxhole.
30:40
Yeah. And then they like the main mechanic
30:43
guy is like hey go get in your
30:45
plane and shoot it with your 20 millimeter
30:47
like guns because it'll kill it and
30:49
they're like. He makes it there. Koichi makes
30:51
it to the plane. He does. And gets
30:54
it in his sights and can't do it.
30:56
He can't pull the trigger. Yeah he doesn't
30:58
do it. I think he's afraid that he'll start shooting
31:00
it. It won't have an effect and it'll eat him.
31:02
And it'll eat him. Like I get that fear because
31:04
we see him do that a lot. And it's
31:06
honestly we don't we never get confirmation as
31:09
to whether or not this would have killed
31:11
Godzilla. Oh I personally think. Do you think
31:13
it would have? I think it would have
31:15
yeah. Interesting. So I think that's part
31:17
of it. Although it is unsaid so
31:19
like you could take this either way
31:21
right? Sure. Because no one ever like
31:23
makes anybody prove it. But in my
31:25
mind I think the end holds more weight.
31:28
Agreed yeah. And because he didn't address
31:30
his issue at the beginning when he
31:32
first started having the issue it grew
31:34
into this much. I'm talking metaphorically. Sure. It
31:36
grew into this much more bigger monster
31:38
that he had to then go through
31:40
greater lengths to fight and kill. So like
31:42
I think it works with the metaphor
31:44
better if he could have killed it here
31:47
but chose not to. Okay. Because he was
31:49
too afraid to face that fear. But that's
31:51
just me thinking like in therapeutic brain like
31:53
I've just been through so much therapy that
31:56
I know had I addressed my issues with
31:58
like survivor's guilt closer to life. Like it
32:00
happening. I probably wouldn't have had a lot
32:02
of issues I have along the way, you
32:05
know? I mean, isn't that true for
32:07
anybody? Yes, absolutely. Go to therapy, go to therapy
32:09
now. The best day to start therapy is today. But
32:11
he freaks out, he isn't fire.
32:13
Godzilla attacks the beach and his
32:16
plane. He falls to
32:18
the beach. He wakes up the
32:20
next morning to the only survivor
32:22
being that head mechanic. The one
32:24
that basically said, I understand why
32:26
you did what you did, but
32:29
now he's like, you might just
32:31
be a coward. Yeah. Like, hard,
32:34
because he's lining up the dead
32:36
bodies of all of his friends.
32:38
They're the only survivors. I mean,
32:40
Godzilla the night before, when he was
32:42
attacking, was like, he was treating these like
32:44
mechanics like he was a dad and they
32:46
were a newborn and he was just like
32:49
snatching them up by the midsection and throwing
32:51
them into the night. Yeah. Like he was
32:53
just like throwing them up in the air.
32:55
Yes. It was crazy. So like all
32:58
of their friends or all of the main
33:00
mechanics friends are dead. And so he has
33:02
just spent probably about a day collecting their
33:05
bodies, ready for burial, all of that stuff.
33:07
And then the guy who probably could have
33:09
killed Godzilla when he got in his plane,
33:11
didn't, walked up. He's pretty pissed at
33:13
him. Oh, yeah. Like he does kind
33:16
of go off. He goes off on
33:18
it. They end up on a rescue boat
33:20
full of soldiers. And what we will find
33:22
out is that the Japanese army government
33:25
has told everyone that the
33:27
Americans hit the base, not
33:29
Godzilla. So they are on a
33:31
boat with a lot of other soldiers rescued
33:34
from a lot of other islands because
33:36
in the last days of the war,
33:38
America went basically island hopping to take out
33:40
their bases. That's why Pearl Harbor happened.
33:42
We had basically like eliminated all but
33:44
one option at that point. I
33:46
think it's really interesting that this movie chooses
33:48
to go the route of like, we did
33:50
not drop the A-bomb on Japan. We dropped
33:52
like a lot of other bombs on Japan,
33:55
it seems like. No, we did. Did we?
33:57
It looked like it was the A-bomb. I
33:59
thought it was. just like a fire bomb
34:01
like we would we like fire bomb the
34:03
area like we did it like in Vietnam
34:06
we did both we definitely yeah no
34:08
it could have been both you just don't see the
34:10
mushroom cloud and stuff you see it briefly in the
34:12
news reel but that's the only time do you okay
34:14
I must have missed that but also we're not in
34:17
either of the cities where it happened
34:19
we're not in Hiroshima or Nagasaki true
34:21
so we don't necessarily see it we
34:23
do know Tokyo had been aggressively fire
34:25
bomb oh yeah like raised almost to
34:27
the ground which we do see but
34:30
the only reason I know we dropped the
34:32
a-bomb is because that's how Godzilla grows like
34:34
in canonically that is what happens that's not
34:37
what happens in this movie though it's
34:39
bikini atoll he like oh no you're
34:41
right yes yeah he goes to bikini atoll
34:43
or God I don't know if Godzilla is male
34:45
or female but whatever like Godzilla goes to bikini
34:47
atoll where yeah or just happens to be about
34:49
around that test nuclear explosion and that's
34:51
what irradiates him but like Paige you
34:53
might be right though I might have
34:55
if there's footage of a mushroom cloud
34:57
pre heat blast then there then it
34:59
definitely did happen I just missed that
35:02
there is like it's part
35:04
of just the general news
35:06
reel and like in other
35:08
canonical Godzilla stories bikini atoll
35:10
does factor in so this
35:12
is something that they actually
35:14
used for some of the
35:16
American Godzilla the monarch history
35:18
of monsters where in monarch
35:20
history of monsters they have
35:22
discovered multiple kaijus Godzilla
35:24
just being one of them and
35:26
they can track them by raises
35:28
in radiation and they think they're
35:31
all essentially caused by the atomic
35:33
bomb like they like the atomic bomb
35:35
happened it awoke all of these things
35:38
and now we're dealing with them right
35:40
and in that one they try to
35:42
blow it up they try to blow
35:44
up Godzilla with a nuke in Bikini
35:46
atoll and he survives yeah well I
35:48
mean he survives this too so yeah he's right
35:50
this too yeah I would say any one of
35:53
those makes sense I think we still did drop
35:55
the bomb in this universe but then we also
35:57
tried to nuke him in Bikini atoll that makes
35:59
them yeah Or the Americans tried to
36:01
nuke him. Or he just happened to be
36:03
around when that nuke went off. And that's
36:05
what irradiated it. Yeah, I think the Americans
36:08
tried to nuke him. I mean, yeah,
36:10
we don't really get any communication from
36:12
America in this movie that isn't, sorry,
36:14
we're super busy with the Russians so
36:16
we can't help you with your monster
36:19
problem. So sorry that this literal revelation
36:21
that changes everything we thought we knew
36:23
about the world is not bearing
36:25
any attention from us at all. Yeah.
36:27
Signed America. Signed America. Signed
36:29
America. Signed America. I
36:32
do like because for me- Blame Stalin.
36:35
For me, this gives us a
36:37
purely Japanese Godzilla movie. Which I
36:39
like. I'm here for it. I
36:41
like a lot. My headcanon of
36:43
what happened based on my Godzilla
36:45
knowledge and what we've seen in
36:47
the film. I believe that following
36:49
the war, which ends very soon
36:51
after this initial Godzilla attack that
36:53
we saw, America is made aware
36:56
of Godzilla and takes credit for
36:58
the attack to not freak
37:00
people out about the existence of Godzilla
37:02
but wants to study Godzilla as a
37:04
weapon. Yeah. That's how America do.
37:06
You know, Monarch Project shit. Well,
37:09
and that's Monarch Project is the American
37:11
side of the Godzilla story. And so
37:13
that's very much what they're doing. And
37:15
so that's where our explosion of Bikini
37:17
A-Tole comes in. And maybe that's the
37:19
one like wink and nod in this
37:21
movie of like, you know what happened.
37:23
And then the events of this
37:26
movie progress. Yeah. That's where I think
37:28
I will settle on my headcanon. I
37:30
mean, I think that works. Yeah. Yeah.
37:33
Anyway, we cut to a giant
37:35
boat of soldiers rescued from all the other island
37:37
bases that the Americans have attacked. Yeah. And
37:39
the mechanic brushes
37:41
by him and hands him a
37:44
packet. And we will find out
37:46
later that that packet is all
37:48
of these photos and letters from
37:50
the other mechanics families. Yeah. That
37:52
he's basically like, their death
37:54
is on your hands. This is
37:56
your responsibility now. They all wanted to get back
37:59
to their families. families, you
38:01
made sure they couldn't because you
38:03
wouldn't shoot Godzilla and now this
38:06
should weigh on you. Which again,
38:08
I'm like it is also Godzilla.
38:10
Like there are limits to what
38:12
you as one person can do
38:14
in the face of Godzilla. I
38:17
do think that like, and I'm laughing, but
38:19
I do mean this, like if a wild
38:22
animal gets loose and kills
38:24
people, it's not necessarily like someone's fault.
38:26
You know, it's just that animal doing
38:28
what they're doing. I mean, unless
38:30
they were irradiating that animal. Well, I
38:32
mean, okay, okay, but he was just...
38:35
But that's not the case at this
38:37
point. Yeah, no, but that's also what
38:39
I love is that this movie as
38:42
it goes, takes great pains to address
38:44
the idea that I know everyone expects
38:46
they will be brave in this moment,
38:48
but it is human to
38:50
be scared. Yes. And that's
38:53
okay. And like that I think is one
38:55
of my favorite parts of the movie because
38:57
it's basically a movie being like, yeah,
38:59
no, I know that if this was, you
39:01
know, Independence Day, everyone wants to think they're
39:03
Randy Quaid and they're going to fly up
39:05
into the spaceship. Right. But
39:07
sometimes you're just a person
39:09
staring up at a giant
39:12
irradiated lizard asking it who's
39:14
chasing it. Sorry. Who's
39:16
chasing you Godzilla? This honestly we
39:18
could have done on either podcast and I'll just say
39:20
that because it is also a love
39:22
story. Such a good love story. I
39:25
was thinking the same to be honest as
39:27
I was watching it. I also, as I
39:29
was watching this, it made me really want
39:31
to do everything everywhere all at once on
39:33
romance in the pod because that also phenomenal
39:35
and a great love story. I still haven't watched it because
39:38
I'm afraid it will make me cry a lot. It
39:40
will make you cry. Yeah. This movie made me
39:42
cry a lot and I loved it Paige. So if you
39:44
want to do it, let's do it. Yeah,
39:47
no, we will absolutely do it and I'll
39:49
find a good guest for it. But it
39:51
was that was Andrea, Gazzetta and I in
39:53
the movie. We saw it together in theaters
39:56
just holding hands and sobbing as
39:58
like he's like. hey in
40:00
another life I would have been happy just doing laundry and
40:02
taxes with you and you're just like oh
40:05
god love is real and it
40:07
crosses time like you know this
40:09
is way better than cloud atlas
40:11
it's so much better than cloud
40:13
atlas dude like cloud atlas could
40:15
never anyway so
40:17
he arrives back in Tokyo December
40:20
1945 Tokyo is raised
40:22
to the ground in Rubbles
40:25
Rubble and he goes back to his
40:27
old neighborhood and runs into
40:29
his old neighbor who has lost
40:32
her entire family her husband her
40:34
children her home everything
40:36
and she's like what are you doing here
40:39
you were a kamikaze pilot and if you
40:41
had done what you were supposed to do
40:43
my children wouldn't have died i think that's
40:45
a lot to put on a person and
40:48
i don't think that's an accurate retelling of
40:50
what happened definitely however she is in her
40:52
feels oh yeah and like she is in
40:55
grief she just lost her whole family
40:57
like she is lashing out in
40:59
a i think inappropriate way but
41:01
she also fully get it yeah
41:04
and i feel bad for her
41:06
and she is we see over
41:08
the course of this movie a
41:10
good person yes so like we
41:12
do because this movie makes every
41:14
character a full character yeah like
41:16
three and four d characters we
41:18
see this as a like
41:20
complex emotional response to heavy trauma
41:23
yeah instead of oh isn't this
41:25
lady just a bitch no she
41:27
has her own arc exactly yeah every
41:29
single character has an arc yeah that's
41:31
what i was every single one that's
41:33
what i was getting at so because we
41:36
get her whole story like we get the
41:38
opportunity to see that she is not a
41:40
bad person no even though she seems like
41:42
it in this scene she is just going
41:44
through so much grief man she's literally walking
41:46
through her neighborhood all of her family is
41:48
dead like i get it and all
41:50
of her neighbors yes everyone she's ever known
41:53
and loved yeah because we will find out
41:55
she lives across the path or whatever the
41:57
street or whatever they're all kind of close
42:00
from Koichi and his family and
42:02
she tells him, your parents are
42:05
dead, this whole place was on
42:07
fire, there is nothing left, there's
42:10
nothing left. Paige, when he gets
42:12
to his house and is reading
42:14
the letter that they sent him that says,
42:17
stay alive for us. Yes.
42:19
And then you realize that he
42:22
didn't do his duty because he
42:24
was honoring his parents request to
42:26
stay alive for them and
42:29
they fucking died on
42:31
his way home. Like that is
42:33
heart, I cried, I cried, I
42:35
couldn't help it, it's heartbreaking. Heartbreaking,
42:38
we cut to him in the marketplace the
42:40
next day, cause he's like slowly working through
42:42
the rubble of his home and trying to
42:44
rebuild and a woman who
42:47
they're accusing her of being a thief, she
42:49
runs through, she presses a package into his
42:51
arms as she continues to
42:53
run, we reveal that package is the cutest
42:55
baby you have ever seen in your entire
42:58
life. It is a very adorable baby, but if
43:00
someone handed me a baby and ran away, I would
43:02
be very scared. Like I would be like, what is
43:04
happening? Why was this literal person
43:06
thrown into my arms? Why did that person
43:08
who threw that person into my arms run
43:11
off? I have a million questions and the
43:13
town is in rubble so there's no one
43:15
to help me. I have no
43:17
idea. And so he just sits down with the baby and
43:19
kind of waits for her to come back, she doesn't come
43:21
back, she doesn't come back. He goes to abandon the baby
43:23
and he's like, so he
43:25
takes the baby and as he walks away,
43:28
she pops out and is like, thank you
43:30
for not abandoning her basically. And he's like,
43:32
why didn't you come? And she's like, I
43:34
had to wait till they wouldn't see me.
43:36
Like I've been trying to care for her
43:38
but my whole family's dead. And he's like,
43:41
well, who's the father? And she's like, I
43:43
don't know. Like literally another woman who was
43:45
about to die handed me this
43:47
baby. And begged me to take
43:49
care of it. And begged me to
43:52
take her. It is literally the saddest
43:54
backstory you've ever heard for a brand
43:56
new character 20 minutes into a movie.
43:58
It's terrible. It's terrible. Because they
44:00
are essentially both orphans because
44:02
Noriko is probably 19. She's
44:06
young. I mean they're both young.
44:08
She's almost a kid and she is
44:10
now a mom and he is
44:13
now essentially a dad because he's just a
44:15
good guy. I would
44:17
say that in this first interaction, those
44:20
are some real green flags. She
44:22
throws her child more or less into
44:24
his arms and he's like, okay, I'll
44:26
make sure this child's safe. And
44:28
she's like, let's do this. Let's
44:31
live together for years and
44:33
never, even though there's immense
44:35
sexual chemistry, act on it.
44:37
Let's never act on it until I
44:40
die and then you find me after
44:42
you kill the monster and then I'm
44:44
assuming they just go at it for
44:46
hours. Well I think he's got to wait
44:48
till she gets out of the hospital but... Disagree! It
44:51
seemed like a private room. I'm just saying
44:53
if she's down, they do have opportunities. Sure,
44:55
sure. Yeah, of course. She actually
44:58
is like, okay, you and the baby's name
45:00
is Akiko, so it's Noriko and Akiko. He's
45:03
like, you can stay for the night and
45:05
then we'll figure out something later. Cut
45:07
to a year, or actually I guess they're
45:10
like the next day or so and she's
45:12
been trying to feed the baby whatever she
45:14
can find and the neighbor comes over and
45:16
is like... Yeah, this is the same lady
45:18
who was like, you should have died, you're
45:20
the reason my family's dead. Yes. And
45:23
she comes over and helps them. And
45:25
she helps them and gives them like
45:27
her rations that she would have fed
45:30
her babies but they are no longer.
45:32
Yeah, and she's like, use this for
45:34
the baby. Don't use this for yourself.
45:36
You can eat anything. It can only
45:38
eat this... Yes. ...by. I
45:41
still am like really upset with you
45:43
even though I do understand it's probably
45:45
misplaced grief but it's only been a
45:48
day. Right. Wait for a year
45:50
and then I'll be inexplicably a much nicer
45:52
character to you and then Todd will realize,
45:54
oh it's been a year. She's like worked
45:56
through her grief some. It hasn't been
45:58
quite here. 1946 is
46:00
the next time we see them. So it's only
46:02
been like five months or whatever in December to
46:04
March. Okay, okay But still I mean
46:06
she progressively gets yeah, she progressively becomes
46:09
a member of the family. Honestly a
46:11
hundred percent She's their daycare during
46:13
the day. Yeah, but yeah, so
46:15
it's raining the baby's alive and
46:17
he's trying to find
46:19
work the only work he finds is essentially
46:22
he they go on these two boats with
46:24
a line between them and cut
46:27
sea mines loose and then he shoots
46:29
and explodes the sea mines and
46:31
like that's the job and that's why
46:33
it pays well because It's
46:35
super dangerous. Yeah, I mean
46:38
I actually so when he said what it
46:40
was at first I like in my mind
46:42
thought he was gonna be like scuba diving
46:44
and like Yeah, and then like the fucking
46:46
hurt locker and then when they actually show
46:48
what he's doing I'm like, this is way
46:50
smarter. Of course. She would just blow them
46:52
up. Like what was I thinking? Yeah, it's
46:55
still dangerous though. Like when he's explaining it
46:57
to Noriko He's like the reason that pays
46:59
well The reason there's a 400 yen sign-on
47:01
bonus is because or 4,000 yen
47:04
or whatever it was. It's 3,000. Yeah Yeah,
47:06
whatever enough to like a feed them in the
47:08
baby, right? Like yeah, he feels like he's obligated
47:10
because he now has a family to provide for
47:12
but like he does explain like it is a
47:14
risky Job and she's like you can't do this.
47:17
You know, we need you. Yeah, I forbid you
47:19
to die Yes, it's more or less what she
47:21
says. Yeah Yes, but the next few
47:23
scenes we kind of go through how the
47:25
boats work We meet the boat crew because
47:28
this new crew Noda the
47:30
kid and doc are gonna become
47:32
his new best friends. They're like
47:34
his chosen family at this point Yes,
47:37
they build a chosen family and it's incredibly
47:39
sweet and you end up loving all of
47:41
them But they there's
47:43
60,000 mines still out there and
47:45
they gotta you know, go through and detonate
47:47
them all So they're like, yeah, they are
47:50
a crew a tight-knit crew We find out
47:52
the doc used to be essentially like a
47:54
munitions expert with the Japanese Navy Yeah,
47:56
he like built munitions more or less like
47:58
different or even like design them I
48:00
think so it was like yeah he was like
48:02
a bomb maker more or less or you know
48:04
whatever yeah he was a bomb maker the kid
48:06
was too young to go to war so he never went
48:09
to war and man does he put off
48:11
like I should have been at war vibes
48:13
like he really is I really liked what
48:15
they did with his character I did
48:18
too it made me cry so
48:20
hard when Captain Noda because Captain Noda is
48:22
the other one who was a former Navy
48:24
captain who has survived and is like the
48:26
war was fucked up so
48:28
when he says it is a good thing
48:31
to have never been to war yeah what
48:33
I wrote it down because I was like this is
48:35
such a good line but like not being part of
48:37
the war is something to be grateful for and I
48:41
don't think that message gets through to him
48:43
no but like literally in later later in
48:45
that same scene like he says that and
48:48
then he and Doc start walking away yeah
48:50
and then the kid starts yelling at them
48:52
and he's like we're leaving the country to
48:54
you like your job is to like live
48:58
like they are now crying again but like it
49:00
is very much
49:04
like you idiot we need you to
49:06
live so you can run this we
49:08
are dying for you they don't end
49:10
up dying because of what a comichi
49:12
does but like they fully I think
49:14
thought they were dying and doing this
49:16
yeah anyway like it's so we're not
49:18
even there yet but like it's so
49:20
sad and he just doesn't get it
49:22
so he like whatever we'll get there
49:24
in a second whatever anyway they're
49:26
shooting and blowing up the minds and
49:29
honestly it looks fun as
49:31
shit I would say it is a
49:33
dangerous job would I enjoy some parts of
49:35
it yes I would please let me have
49:37
this job like I just want
49:40
to shoot at things and make them explode in a
49:42
place that doesn't seem to hurt anybody except Godzilla and
49:44
I'm okay with that yeah I can live with that
49:46
I can live with that but he is
49:48
having PTSD nightmares like he's back
49:51
on the island with Godzilla he
49:53
is constantly grieving and feeling guilty
49:56
over the other men who died
49:58
yeah and he Only
50:00
explains parts of it to Noriko
50:03
not everything so she's not fully
50:05
she doesn't fully understand what happened
50:07
She will eventually we cut
50:09
to a brief cutaway July
50:13
1946 now about six to seven months
50:15
from him coming home Yeah, and it
50:17
is bikini atoll and its operation crossroads.
50:19
Yeah in real history It's
50:21
nuclear tests, but in Godzilla
50:24
history, it is an attempt to blow up
50:26
Godzilla, which may have irradiated him further Yeah,
50:28
I think we get it as a press release.
50:31
Well, not yet. That's next because
50:33
this is just the cutaway Yeah,
50:35
okay, that's fair But like the story that
50:38
they're told is it's just a nuclear test,
50:40
right? But I do think that you're right
50:42
obviously and I think that America is like
50:44
cool We didn't kill it, but it
50:46
went back towards Japan. So now it's their problem On
50:51
the former thickums Stalin in
50:53
Russia. Yeah, like we got Mustaches
50:56
to handle right now. Thank you
50:58
because they're getting unruly in Moscow
51:00
Yes, so we cut to
51:03
our little chosen family and now Akiko is
51:05
like a toddler He has
51:07
a job Noriko is getting a job. They're
51:09
rebuilding their house. They have like a little
51:12
housewarming I refuse to believe that
51:14
she has lived in his house
51:16
for Two years three
51:18
years a year and they haven't kissed
51:20
they haven't like held hands like what
51:23
is half Clear sexual
51:25
chemistry between the two of them there is
51:27
and it's only been like a year at this
51:29
point They have a daughter page it well in
51:31
this scene and this broke my heart because he
51:34
very clearly is like I'm not her father I
51:36
know I was so mad at him.
51:39
I'm like bro realize where you are
51:41
What is happening and what that child
51:43
needs in this moment? Yes, but like
51:45
he's so frozen in his own grief
51:47
He can't see past his own nose.
51:49
Like I understand Yeah, why he does
51:51
what he does here and I
51:53
think years after this movie. having gone through
51:56
therapy He looks back on this and very
51:58
much regressive. Sure. I Understand why. He said
52:00
what he said of the it more or less
52:02
was like I'm not her dad. I have told
52:04
her that many times as you like yeah dad
52:07
and he's like I'm not your dad I've told
52:09
you many times you going to lie know any
52:11
be willing. To leave a tiny,
52:13
tiny child. But also Noriko goes
52:15
in as and of like doing the dishes
52:18
are like cleaning up or get ever because
52:20
they just have like they're like entertaining his
52:22
work friends more or less for dinner. Yeah.
52:24
It's it's. like a house warming. Party Yeah it.
52:27
And they're all like, why would you say
52:29
that to her un. Man who likes of
52:31
a brought you together as a family. Yeah
52:33
so like it doesn't matter whether or not
52:36
you the you know pushed it out like
52:38
you're a family be you live as a
52:40
family at all. So like. See lot
52:42
like Noriko loves loves you go on
52:44
the early she wants or she is
52:46
begging for it like let go of
52:48
your grief. I understand your sad your
52:50
parents are dead but like beautiful woman
52:52
live in your house you you have
52:54
a daughter together more or less. Yeah
52:57
maybe like take a run at a
52:59
secret goes by may. Have yet to see
53:01
what happens. you will N n So literally
53:03
the very next shot is March Nineteen, Forty
53:05
seven. So a few months later and this
53:07
is where she's come home. And she's like
53:10
I got a desk job. A sudden I
53:12
started bringing money and really mean Akiko Find
53:14
a way of a place to live. Because.
53:16
If we don't, you'll never find a wife and
53:19
move on with your life. Is clearly you're not
53:21
interested in this. You'll never get married yes
53:23
and as the I think in this is
53:25
on every level from every warm it's very
53:27
good see is very much delivering these line.
53:30
With. That the tone of like.
53:32
A friend like you'll never get married and
53:34
west or dating or whatever but you could
53:37
see on her face she is like very
53:39
hurt my host saying this yet like she
53:41
wants to be the person that he wants
53:43
to date and mayor he likes. and
53:45
it his face of like what
53:48
know or it's like oh I
53:50
guess I fully thinks. Of see
53:52
is what the bully birds this like decision
53:54
yet as she is like okay he either
53:57
a is so sad he had a he
53:59
can't move. That and can't really be
54:01
with anybody for and I need to move
54:03
on because I need to find someone and
54:05
I'm ready for that or she was like
54:07
I need a spike shock his system because
54:09
I know he loves me but he so
54:11
frozen industries that he can't recognize that the
54:13
and I think that's ostensibly what happens but
54:15
I do think that this is somewhat premeditated
54:17
and I mean that the sense of like
54:19
she didn't want to do this initially but
54:21
like had to do something you. Know. Now
54:23
she has to do some bags. Yeah
54:25
yeah, I'm like okay Collin Bridge or
54:28
Ten Banalities. Learned a whole time when
54:30
we didn't. come on. Ah and she's
54:32
already made like plans with the neighbors
54:34
to me go at to basically have
54:37
her and watch a T go during
54:39
the day. So like. She.
54:41
Doesn't plan to leave leave like
54:43
she's gonna live right there probably
54:46
are they have like this ecosystem,
54:48
know I mean this, they? Clearly
54:50
commute I got the idea or the impression
54:52
that we're see is working is somewhere else
54:54
in Tokyo. lets you been to Tokyo, pays
54:56
like it'll be a or city and she
54:59
just gets on like the subway is a
55:01
neighborhood. Yeah yeah so am I might. It
55:03
was like maybe across town, which guys could
55:05
be like an hour away in Tokyo like
55:07
that might be a pretty far like commute
55:09
but in my mind she was commuting every
55:11
day. So the neighbor yeah who is remember
55:13
don't like terrible lady from before in the
55:16
very beginning who was like you should have
55:18
died as a my kids who is now.
55:20
Like the ants. Super like takes curiosity old
55:22
season to watch the kids during the day
55:24
and she's gonna go to work. and he's
55:26
gonna go to work. you know? Yeah. Anyway,
55:28
Zero Mail is are essentially may I'm just
55:31
saying. She's. Down is he needs
55:33
to like. Just take her on a date, see where things
55:35
go battle and say. But. He can't his wars
55:37
not over so. So true. This
55:39
is where we get that. the only
55:41
English in the movie was a i
55:44
thought was very ugly words the U
55:46
S microfilm. yeah of like hey there's
55:48
an unknown animal and like there was
55:50
that nuclear tests to read average but
55:52
something's destroying the submarines. we don't know
55:54
what it is. Cut to May Nineteen
55:56
Forty Seven ah near the Ago. So
55:59
our island. This giant
56:01
boat is destroyed.
56:05
It's fully Godzilla. I
56:07
do love that they get dispatched by the government
56:10
because they are the people who go blow up
56:12
the mines. They get dispatched to go check out
56:14
what the fuck happened to this boat because it
56:16
clearly wasn't blown up by a mine. And they
56:18
get there and they're like, that definitely looks animal.
56:21
But I don't know of a whale that does
56:23
that. No whale jumps out
56:25
of the water, breaches out and then
56:27
lands on a cruiser until it destroys
56:29
it. Well, and this is where, because he's
56:31
like, oh, this is the Godzilla that
56:34
I saw on Odo Island. They're like, I
56:36
thought the Americans did Odo Island. He's
56:38
like, no, no. No, that was fully
56:40
a dinosaur. Yeah, well, and
56:42
this is where he has to admit to
56:44
them that he was a Kamikaze pilot that
56:47
survived. And Doc and Noda immediately accepted and
56:49
understand. Exactly. And Kit is like, what do
56:51
you mean you survived? Like, what do you
56:53
mean? Like, not the glory. And everyone else
56:56
is like, you don't fucking get it, man.
56:58
Like, you don't understand. Everyone's like, this
57:00
fucking kid's an idiot. But he
57:02
is, it is played like. Inexperienced.
57:04
Yes, I think that. Because everyone
57:06
who actually has been at war
57:08
is like, bro, trust me. You
57:12
don't want that. You don't want this. You're
57:14
like, calm down, Alexander Hamilton, like in the
57:16
first 10 minutes of that musical. But
57:18
they're basically like, look, we don't stand
57:20
a chance. We can't, like if that
57:22
boat can't fight Godzilla, we can't fight
57:25
Godzilla. Because they're in a wooden boat,
57:27
remember, because they're like, the American minds are magnetized.
57:29
So they couldn't even be in like a metal
57:31
boat. Like if Godzilla sneezed within like a meter
57:33
of them, they would be blown to dust. Yes.
57:37
They see like way more dead fish
57:39
and they're like, okay, so if we
57:41
get a couple of mines, we
57:43
can maybe drop them. And we'll
57:45
see if that hurts it. There's
57:47
no other boat. Supposedly this other
57:50
boat's gonna come and relieve them.
57:52
And they're just there to stall. But the
57:54
other boat, you know, taking a long time.
57:56
So it's the two boats with the line
57:58
between them. And that other boat has
58:01
a crew just like this one, we just haven't met
58:03
them, because we're on this boat. So like,
58:05
they're both around and they're
58:07
like, alright, first one of us to kill
58:09
them wins. Paige when... I
58:12
forget, oh no, it's the captain, it's
58:14
the guy who's like driving the boat.
58:16
Yeah. During this scene, it's like everything
58:19
he says is the wrong
58:21
thing to say in that
58:23
moment. Yeah. Because like, he's
58:26
like, alright, we'll just like scavenge our
58:28
own like weapons because they're gonna like
58:30
dig up some mines and we'll use
58:32
those on Godzilla. And he's
58:34
like, cool, it'll be fine. And
58:36
then the other boat that's gonna help them
58:39
drag the cord that cuts the mines and
58:41
they can collect them literally gets
58:43
lifted out of the water in
58:45
his mouth. Oh yeah. It
58:47
gets like tossed, like it's just not even
58:50
a boat anymore. Yeah. And
58:52
they're like... Incident. Oh fuck. So
58:55
like, it's not like what we thought it was gonna be. Yeah. It's
58:57
like a million times worse. And this chase
59:00
sequence... Oh, when they're... Because
59:02
they dropped the first mine and it doesn't
59:05
do anything because he like
59:07
regenerates. So this is another one of
59:09
the things that the captain says that I think is like
59:11
the absolute wrong thing. Because they
59:13
drop a mine, it blows up, we see
59:15
like it comes back through the smoke of
59:17
the mine or whatever. And he goes,
59:19
is it dead? And as it revealed
59:21
it, I wanted Klamisha to just be like, no,
59:24
but it's pissed. Yeah, yeah, no. But
59:27
that's what would happen in an American movie. I
59:29
know. Instead of this beautifully
59:31
done Japanese movie where everyone is just like,
59:34
fuck! Oh my god! No! Oh
59:37
my god! You're like just here. But at first
59:39
he's like, is it dead? And they're like, no,
59:41
it's right behind us. And then they do it
59:43
again and they're like, did it work? And like,
59:46
no, stop asking these kinds of questions. Because when
59:48
we drop a mine and you ask something like
59:50
that, it brings it back to life. So stop
59:52
it. Yeah, Stop it. And It
59:55
regenerates. But Now everyone's hurt. My
59:57
Kaweezy has like a bloody head
59:59
wound. The. Kid had broken
1:00:01
his arm like they're all hurt
1:00:03
and who should show up. But
1:00:06
the giant warship launching missiles and
1:00:08
they're like oh, say can yeah,
1:00:11
they'll kill it. Awesome. But he
1:00:13
literally takes out that whole ship
1:00:15
like it's know, I'm he. He
1:00:18
does like a He does a target
1:00:20
physically like Godzilla Gauze Yeah and then
1:00:22
to be He falls under the boats
1:00:24
and suits it with what is the
1:00:26
heat ray I would assume be a
1:00:29
has eight sisters to do a mushroom
1:00:31
clouds yeah both gone. I literally wrote
1:00:33
in my elbows like wait to report
1:00:35
this Godzilla have like a parking space
1:00:37
Laser like what is happening because me
1:00:40
flavor like what is happening because Law
1:00:42
Yeah it is like a laser through
1:00:44
and then mushroom cloud. It is nuts.
1:00:46
Yeah I ended know is unscathed. Oh yeah
1:00:48
but the smaller boat has been able to
1:00:51
get away. So Koichi weeks of them a
1:00:53
hospital and his his boat as friends are
1:00:55
all their I do. Want to? One
1:00:57
of the koichi is icing on narcolepsy
1:00:59
or perhaps just gets really sleepy with
1:01:01
prolonged exposure to Godzilla because of the
1:01:03
second time in the first forty minutes
1:01:06
of the movie were Godzilla attacks and
1:01:08
the seen as with him passing out
1:01:10
so like com is you've got to
1:01:12
get his shit together. Yeah thought Well
1:01:14
Koichi. Also I think the sets up a
1:01:16
really important part of his grieving process because
1:01:18
eventually gets really. Somebody finds out that like
1:01:20
the government's not going to tell people about
1:01:22
Godzilla like you like we got a evacuated
1:01:24
They're like know it, It did not happen.
1:01:26
So. He goes home and is having
1:01:29
these horrible that know dreams in the
1:01:31
Us. To tell Noriko he's like I
1:01:33
abandoned My mission is a cause of
1:01:36
Kamikaze pilot. Then. Landed on this
1:01:38
island, Godzilla showed up, killed everyone
1:01:40
but me. So this is the
1:01:42
second or third time I have
1:01:45
survived a thing I was supposed
1:01:47
to die in. Yeah and those
1:01:49
the compounding survivor's guilt. Wrecking.
1:01:52
His head. it's caressing. him from the
1:01:54
inside out it is doing what they want
1:01:56
to do the godzilla yet at the end
1:01:58
of this movie when take him on the Tower
1:02:01
of Terror. He also feels helpless. He's like,
1:02:03
this is also the second time I couldn't
1:02:05
do anything. Now I would argue he tried
1:02:07
to do things in this one and just
1:02:09
didn't have the ability or the
1:02:11
resources to affect change. But
1:02:14
like he's listing that in the same category as
1:02:16
not being able to shoot at Godzilla. And it's
1:02:18
like, well, those are different. They are very different
1:02:20
things. Yeah. They're very different things.
1:02:23
One of them is inaction. The other one is
1:02:25
just not being successful because you didn't have the
1:02:27
right tools. Right. He's
1:02:29
really getting into the survivor's guilt like a lot
1:02:31
in this scene. And I was crying during this
1:02:33
because it's like I deal with a lot of
1:02:35
that shit too with my brother because we were
1:02:37
in the car together. And like it's just like
1:02:40
all the shit he was saying was like spot
1:02:42
on. It was just making me ball. Oh yeah.
1:02:44
Well, and and Noriko is basically just
1:02:46
like everyone who lived deserves to live.
1:02:49
Like there's no like
1:02:51
it is kind of random, but you
1:02:53
cannot hold it against yourself. Like you
1:02:55
lived. So you better live. Yeah. You
1:02:58
don't want to ponder the gift that based upon
1:03:01
your belief or in belief, God or random chance
1:03:03
gave you. Right. Like, yeah,
1:03:05
it is a gift either way. The people
1:03:07
who died deserve to live. It's not that
1:03:09
anyone deserves to die, but you do deserve
1:03:11
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machine. The next morning
1:04:29
he wakes up and he sees
1:04:31
Noriko and Akiko having breakfast and
1:04:34
this is where he says to her
1:04:36
I'd like to try and live again. Which
1:04:38
I think is his first step towards like
1:04:40
let's get married, like you know whatever. Or
1:04:42
like hey what are you doing
1:04:45
later tonight? I would love to
1:04:47
finally rail you. Like they have
1:04:49
been living together for years at
1:04:51
this point. Yes. So in
1:04:53
love. Like at least take her on a date
1:04:55
is all I'm saying. Yes. And in this
1:04:57
movie they could have some Godzilla sushi. Yay.
1:05:00
We cut to Godzilla swimming
1:05:02
under boats affecting the current.
1:05:04
And the boats are like oh we've got to report it. Let's
1:05:07
detonate zone four. They do it. It
1:05:09
does nothing. So
1:05:12
it is headed towards Ginza.
1:05:14
Cut to he's playing with Akiko because
1:05:17
he's not back at work yet because their
1:05:19
boats fucked up. Like he was
1:05:21
hurt. So he hears the air
1:05:23
raid sirens and he's like what's happening?
1:05:25
And he hears on the radio an
1:05:27
emergency news report near Ginza that Godzilla
1:05:29
has been spotted and he's like well
1:05:31
that's where Noriko works. I gotta go
1:05:34
get her. So he literally passes Akiko
1:05:36
off to the neighbor. And
1:05:38
he just runs. We don't see where
1:05:40
he ends up we will eventually. It's
1:05:42
literally the day after he said
1:05:44
maybe I can start to live again.
1:05:47
Remember that in like 30 seconds. Yes.
1:05:51
Everyone's running. But this is classic
1:05:53
Godzilla. This is like straight out
1:05:55
of the OG Godzilla films. Amazing.
1:05:57
And it all looks great. She's
1:06:00
on the train and he just picks
1:06:02
up the train and she's like like
1:06:04
falling and has to drop and fall
1:06:06
into the ocean But she manages to
1:06:09
like fall and survive and get back
1:06:11
on land just in time for Godzilla
1:06:13
to be like Stomping down
1:06:15
the streets behind her. I know
1:06:17
what are the odds of all of that
1:06:20
and you swim up You walk out onto
1:06:22
the street and then Godzilla's walking down. Yeah
1:06:24
doing the slowest 5k you've ever seen like
1:06:26
that's how Godzilla do Yeah, yeah, but so
1:06:29
she's like so days. She can't even save
1:06:31
herself at this She's just like I don't
1:06:33
even know what's happening I'm just kind of
1:06:35
and he runs up from behind her because
1:06:38
he miraculously found her and I'm gonna excuse
1:06:40
This one piece of impossible movie
1:06:43
magic same. I forgive it. I love
1:06:45
it I forgive it because the rest of the
1:06:47
movie is so good and it's worth it Yeah,
1:06:49
so at this point I'm like he
1:06:51
clearly Was like willing
1:06:53
to risk it and willing to be
1:06:55
brave for her Oh, this is more
1:06:57
or less also a suicide mission like he's
1:06:59
running towards Godzilla to save her Yeah, so
1:07:02
like I do think he is no longer
1:07:04
a man of inaction. Yes. Yeah
1:07:06
Yeah, and so they're running the tanks
1:07:08
are shooting at Godzilla It doesn't make
1:07:11
a fucking difference because it's fucking Godzilla
1:07:13
Yeah, and he sees the blue like
1:07:15
tail like Godzilla's power and I'm like,
1:07:17
oh no And so
1:07:19
they run and as Godzilla
1:07:22
is about to basically shoot the heat
1:07:24
ray She pushes him
1:07:27
down an alleyway to save him He
1:07:29
was trying to pull her into the
1:07:31
alleyway She pushes him and
1:07:33
she just gets thrown by the
1:07:35
blast Yeah like she doesn't get
1:07:37
the heat heat way ray but
1:07:40
like the residual blast of the
1:07:42
like the concussive force Throws
1:07:44
her yeah down the street with
1:07:46
piles of rubble and whatever I mean
1:07:49
you perhaps could survive we do find
1:07:51
her later in the movie sure that
1:07:53
she did So she did
1:07:55
survive, but I assume she was dead like
1:07:57
I was like what she's dead Like
1:08:00
literally the day after he was like,
1:08:03
I can live again, meaning like maybe I can
1:08:05
start to open myself up to a relationship with
1:08:07
this person that I'm basically married to and have
1:08:09
a child with. Like, it's
1:08:11
heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking, guys. I
1:08:13
wept. Well, the movie,
1:08:16
because like, he goes to
1:08:18
look, he immediately goes to look for
1:08:20
her, and that street is just gone.
1:08:23
Yeah. There's nothing there. And like, his
1:08:25
screams of anguish, ugh, ugh. Like, but
1:08:27
it's almost like he's screaming into the
1:08:29
sky like, I'ma fuck you up, Godzilla!
1:08:32
And you're just like, yes. Oh, he
1:08:34
is, I think? Yes! So, okay,
1:08:36
we saw Godzilla's heatwave scream, and
1:08:38
then the scene ends with his
1:08:40
scream. Yes. And that is him
1:08:43
like, oh, I am not only
1:08:45
gonna survive this encounter, I'm gonna
1:08:47
fucking kill you, Godzilla. I-I
1:08:49
will not rest till I fucking
1:08:51
murder this giant lizard! Today was
1:08:54
the day I decided that I killed
1:08:56
you. Yes. I'm not sure how, but
1:08:58
it will be done. I will figure
1:09:00
out a way. And it's like raining
1:09:02
oil on him, so it's like, it's
1:09:04
so crazy. But yeah, I think it
1:09:06
is- Or ash or whatever, and it like- I'm
1:09:08
sure it's ash, but it's like blackness. Yeah, yeah,
1:09:10
yeah, it's so crazy. But it's great. I love
1:09:13
it. Yeah. Well, and so he goes
1:09:15
home, because obviously, if you looked at it,
1:09:17
you'd assume she was dead. There's no way
1:09:19
you could get to her. Of course. Whatever.
1:09:21
So, they all have like a funeral in
1:09:24
the house. And he says, why
1:09:26
did I think I could
1:09:28
dream again? I was like,
1:09:30
just sobbing. I could not
1:09:32
handle it, Paige. Oh, but then
1:09:35
Doc is like, hey, a bunch
1:09:37
of us that are- are veterans,
1:09:39
like former soldiers, that are
1:09:41
now private citizens, are going to try
1:09:43
and come up with a strategy to
1:09:45
defeat Godzilla, since the army is failing.
1:09:47
And it's probably not viable, but do
1:09:49
you want in? And he's just basically
1:09:51
like, fucking, I'm gonna fuck that lizard
1:09:53
up. Like, he's like, any job, I
1:09:55
don't care. We might die during it,
1:09:57
even better. Like, I- whatever it takes.
1:10:00
Like I'm glad other people wanna help
1:10:02
me kill Godzilla to the I was
1:10:04
gonna do that anyway any away metal
1:10:06
on my my use of the why
1:10:08
did a closeted like an artist to
1:10:10
a local an artist meeting like guess
1:10:12
I will go yes. We'll. Just as
1:10:14
he had been. the town hall meeting
1:10:16
and their plan is. And now here's
1:10:18
a thing. The plant is not a
1:10:20
bad plan. it just don't work it.
1:10:22
Ultimately, Okay, it's nineteen forties. Yes, you.
1:10:24
Have the technology a have an
1:10:27
idea forties? Yeah. I really thought
1:10:29
it was an ingenious way of
1:10:31
solving the Godzilla problem with the
1:10:33
technology they have yet as turns
1:10:35
out not to work at all
1:10:37
What I like to idol. I
1:10:40
honestly I sort of love the
1:10:42
steampunk nature of it all. Physical
1:10:44
Science Teacher for peace grade was
1:10:46
like how would you kill Godzilla
1:10:48
using science the and they were
1:10:51
like free on ah and I
1:10:53
love you. Won't have a sense.
1:10:55
And here's the thing. This happens
1:10:57
in every single Godzilla movie, especially
1:11:00
the Japanese on. Where. There's like
1:11:02
a plan where they're like will do this
1:11:04
and will use this and scientifically this in
1:11:06
this should happen and it's like real science
1:11:09
and then it failed and then when guys
1:11:11
like. His.
1:11:13
I like and that's all it's
1:11:15
all. And like one person or
1:11:17
Mothra being like, what if I
1:11:19
just came off and like matching
1:11:21
over these electrical cables or whatever.
1:11:23
So like. This was very classic
1:11:25
Godzilla for me. I loved it.
1:11:28
But. Essentially, the plan is this: They're
1:11:30
going to. Release. Free on
1:11:32
gas to surround Godzilla in. Almost
1:11:34
like a bubble enclosure that would
1:11:36
make him heavy enough to sink
1:11:38
to the bottom. Of. A very
1:11:40
very deep trench in the ocean where
1:11:42
they would hope. That. The pressure.
1:11:45
Would. Essentially compress him to death.
1:11:47
He either try to like. Pop
1:11:49
like Ocean do yea. I
1:11:51
could then they have inflatable to
1:11:54
rapidly rising to the surface for
1:11:56
explosive decompression. Like scientifically you're like
1:11:58
I get it, Okay. Yeah. So
1:12:00
not only is this plan A, it's
1:12:03
also plan B. Like Tower of Terror
1:12:05
going down is plan A. Hopefully the
1:12:07
crush of that will kill him. If
1:12:09
it doesn't, we'll inflate balloons down there.
1:12:11
And then as those balloons rise, those
1:12:14
more or less become bombs. Yeah. Because
1:12:16
the air in them is expanding because
1:12:18
the pressure in the ocean is getting
1:12:20
less. So if plan A doesn't work,
1:12:22
we'll explode them with the balloon bomb
1:12:25
things. It's also like B and
1:12:27
B.5 because yes, the balloons will explode.
1:12:29
But also he should explode because of
1:12:31
explosive decompression. Like, but they're also like,
1:12:34
will this even kill him? And they're
1:12:36
like, I don't know. That
1:12:39
is how you go with this because like, you
1:12:41
don't have a lot of intelligence about like,
1:12:44
what the inner workings of a Godzilla kaiju
1:12:46
is. Yeah. Just like you're throwing shit at
1:12:48
a wall and hoping you figure it out.
1:12:50
Yeah. And well, and at this point, I
1:12:52
was like, how is there still an hour
1:12:54
left of this movie? Mind you, it has
1:12:56
not been, it has not dragged for a
1:12:58
second. No, I think everything is an important.
1:13:00
Yeah. It is paced great. I'm just like,
1:13:02
what's next? Like, what's, what's still happening? I
1:13:05
mean, honestly, I bet the last half or the
1:13:07
last hour of the movie will be faster to
1:13:09
explain because a lot of it's just like the
1:13:11
action set piece stuff. Right. Like the story stuff
1:13:13
is like almost complete at this point. We just
1:13:15
see how they nail it. The last
1:13:17
half. So the last hour of the
1:13:19
movie, the last half is divided into
1:13:21
what I would call two chunks. One
1:13:24
that will make you cry so hard, your body
1:13:26
hurts. And the other is them fucking up a
1:13:28
giant lizard. So like both of them are great.
1:13:30
Both of them are great. And thus at this
1:13:33
point begins the half that will make you cry
1:13:35
so hard, your body hurts because essentially
1:13:37
everyone in this town hall is like, we
1:13:40
have families and we just spent the
1:13:43
last two years rebuilding from the war.
1:13:45
And now you're asking us to
1:13:47
go on what is effectively a
1:13:49
suicide mission again to kill this
1:13:52
giant lizard. Yeah. And like
1:13:55
you want me to again
1:13:57
sacrifice for what? I
1:13:59
love it. I loved it. I loved it because
1:14:01
it is essentially like a captain from the
1:14:04
Navy who was like leading the meeting Yes,
1:14:06
and he's treating them like soldiers because pretty
1:14:08
much everyone in there was in the Japanese
1:14:11
Navy And he's like the future of the
1:14:13
nation depends on you. It's in your hands
1:14:15
again Who's with me and
1:14:17
like one guy raises his hand and
1:14:19
he's like sir. I cannot yes I
1:14:21
have a family and fuck you so
1:14:23
much for asking again that we Save
1:14:27
you so I'm out now
1:14:29
listen He's not wrong and I love
1:14:31
the way they handled this because I think
1:14:33
it's doc that Ashley actually says it They're
1:14:36
like listen. We're not here
1:14:38
from the government. We are literally just
1:14:40
civilians. We can't make you do anything
1:14:42
Yeah, we're not conscripting you this is
1:14:44
volunteer if you don't want to be
1:14:47
here We understand and about 30% of
1:14:50
them walk out leave. Yeah, that would be
1:14:52
the point I leave I'd be like I
1:14:54
am NOT even in the Navy. I don't
1:14:56
even know how to be on a boat
1:14:59
I'm gonna go but I
1:15:01
mean I I'm like if I don't if
1:15:03
I don't help there's a chance Godzilla kills
1:15:05
me anyway So I might as well fuck
1:15:07
up this giant lizard, bro Honestly like
1:15:09
for the story at least but like yeah a
1:15:11
lot of them do choose to stay and a
1:15:13
lot of them are like Hey We
1:15:16
know how to we know how to run a
1:15:18
boat and like someone has to do
1:15:20
this if no one does this Yeah, it
1:15:22
will just kill everyone here So
1:15:24
like right we have to do this so a lot
1:15:26
of them do stay and I really like at
1:15:29
the end of the scene The guy who is like
1:15:31
the former Navy captain who's been
1:15:33
like running this meeting and talking to them
1:15:35
like soldiers at the very end
1:15:37
of this meeting He like addresses them and
1:15:39
calls them friends. Yes, and he's like, thank
1:15:42
you friends I appreciate you doing this like
1:15:44
he doesn't address them like soldiers and I
1:15:46
really like that like right dichotomy from the
1:15:48
beginning of the Meeting to the end of
1:15:51
the meeting. It was like a military meeting
1:15:53
and then it just sort of feels like
1:15:55
a collection of neighborhoods Getting
1:15:57
together Yeah,
1:16:00
to kill Godzilla. And they
1:16:02
do, they are given some like
1:16:04
decommissioned like boats to use. Yeah.
1:16:07
So the government is involved a little bit, but not much.
1:16:10
Yeah. Well, and I do love
1:16:12
the guy that's like, is this certain death?
1:16:14
And they're like, I mean, technically, no, you
1:16:16
could maybe live through this. I mean, like
1:16:18
who's to say? And then he's like, well,
1:16:20
that's better than the war. Let's go. Yeah.
1:16:23
So at this point, they're like, great. Now
1:16:25
the planning phase begins. And a lot of
1:16:27
it is taking place at like Koichi's house.
1:16:29
Because like, that's where Doc and everybody has
1:16:31
kind of their like home base. Yeah. And
1:16:34
they're like, look, that lizard is coming back
1:16:36
because he's an animal and animals have territory.
1:16:38
And so like we're playing sounds
1:16:40
of his voice to make him think that he
1:16:42
has a competitor, but that won't last forever. So
1:16:45
like he is coming back and we don't know
1:16:47
when. But they do build like a grid
1:16:49
network of like radiation sensors to see where he's
1:16:51
going to be and where he's coming from and
1:16:53
stuff like that. Like they do have a really
1:16:56
I think they have a really great plan. And
1:16:58
I sort of love that they like the screenwriters
1:17:00
spent so much time building this great plan. Yep.
1:17:02
And then it just goes to
1:17:05
shit almost immediately. Yeah.
1:17:07
Well, again, classic. I
1:17:09
know. Right. I really like it. But
1:17:12
this is where Koichi is like, hey, can you get
1:17:14
a hold of a fighter plane? And they're like, no,
1:17:16
we decommissioned all of them. Spoiler, because
1:17:19
of the Americans. Yeah. Like America
1:17:21
grounded the plane because
1:17:24
the Japanese really good at planes. Like
1:17:26
they were so good at it. They're really
1:17:28
good submarines, too. Like a lot of really
1:17:31
interesting military technology came out of Japan that
1:17:33
we did not have equitable technology
1:17:35
in those arenas. And so after the
1:17:37
war, we like grounded them till we
1:17:39
could steal their secret. Yeah, I don't
1:17:41
know a lot about it, but I know
1:17:44
the zero, which is the planes that the
1:17:46
Japanese were using in World War Two were
1:17:48
way more maneuverable, I think faster than any
1:17:50
planes that we had at the time. So,
1:17:52
yeah, absolutely. And the plane that like he
1:17:54
uses at the end is even
1:17:56
like a pretty weird design, like the propellers were
1:17:58
the tail of the plane. would be and it can
1:18:00
go 400 knots which is really
1:18:02
fast at the time. So like I like
1:18:05
I was into it. I am sort of
1:18:07
a nerd for like World War II time
1:18:09
period not necessarily just the war but like
1:18:11
aesthetics. Oh yeah. I'm like obsessed with like
1:18:14
bomber nose art you know of the time.
1:18:16
Oh yeah. So like that art style too and
1:18:19
like the music the big band music at the
1:18:21
time I'm super into. So like I like a
1:18:23
lot of the technology from that time and like
1:18:25
for me I love Atomic Era which
1:18:27
is right after this which is where
1:18:29
like. That's why you like Fallout so much. That's what
1:18:32
I loved Fallout. I love it too.
1:18:34
It's why I love mid-century stuff so
1:18:36
much. There is a specific art movement
1:18:38
following the war and kind of where
1:18:40
everyone ended up after World War II
1:18:42
that really leans in a very specific
1:18:44
stylistic direction that I really like. I
1:18:46
love it. I wanted when I had my
1:18:48
motorcycle I never did this but I wanted
1:18:50
to had I had the money I would
1:18:52
have painted it like Matt Olive Green. Oh
1:18:55
yeah to make it look like one of the
1:18:57
war ones. So my dad's father, my
1:18:59
granddad on my dad's side I never met
1:19:01
because he was he flew bombers
1:19:03
in the war and then became an alcoholic
1:19:05
and drank himself to death because of various
1:19:07
reasons but I wanted to get his nose
1:19:09
out. Probably the war. That's what I would
1:19:12
guess too although I don't know. If you
1:19:14
have to ask why any old men in
1:19:16
our lives have trauma you could probably just
1:19:18
say the war and probably be right. It's
1:19:20
a whole like traumatic thing like my dad found
1:19:22
him like when he had taken his life like
1:19:24
it's a whole sad story that essentially because my
1:19:26
dad is dead and I never took the time
1:19:28
to ask him I'll never know the full extent
1:19:31
of but I know it was bad. Anyway
1:19:33
but like I wanted to get my granddad's
1:19:36
nose art from his plane
1:19:39
on the side of my motorcycle. I never actually did
1:19:41
it and I honestly so I don't even know if
1:19:43
they had nose art at the time he was there
1:19:45
so like I'm not even sure if his plane did
1:19:47
have it but that's what I that's initially why I
1:19:49
wanted to do all that. Jake and
1:19:52
I went on our honeymoon
1:19:54
to Colonial Williamsburg in Washington DC and when
1:19:57
we were in DC we went to the
1:19:59
Air and Space Space Museum. You fucking
1:20:01
nerds. I love that that's where you wanted your
1:20:03
honeymoon. Because hey, I love DC.
1:20:05
All the Smithsonians more or less are free.
1:20:07
And it's like there's so much shit you
1:20:09
can see and do there for free. Oh,
1:20:11
yeah. Guys, nothing more romantic
1:20:13
than the Library of Congress tour. Let me
1:20:16
tell you about it. It's so great. I
1:20:18
say that like I'm joking. I actually really do
1:20:21
love the Library of Congress tour. My
1:20:23
favorite is the Folger Shakespeare Library. I've
1:20:26
been to it a couple of times. Yeah. Because
1:20:28
it's got the beautiful stained glass. Yes. But
1:20:30
Air and Space Museum and Jake found
1:20:32
they have these little like metal model
1:20:35
things you could put together of the
1:20:37
plane his grandfather flew. Oh. In
1:20:39
the war. Yeah. Love that.
1:20:42
Yes. Anyway, Koichi's like, if you
1:20:44
can get me a plane, I can distract Godzilla
1:20:46
or like draw him towards wherever we need him
1:20:49
to be instead of a boat trying to do
1:20:51
that. And a boat's not going to be as
1:20:53
fast. That boat's probably going to get fucked up.
1:20:55
But like, if you get me a plane, I
1:20:57
can do it. And they're like, you're not going to try
1:20:59
and fly that plane into Godzilla with a ton of explosives,
1:21:01
are you? And he's like, what? I would
1:21:03
never. Definitely. They saw
1:21:05
through that, though. Like they know. Yeah.
1:21:09
And they're like, why didn't you? And Captain Noda
1:21:11
is like, if you had married, if you had
1:21:14
married Noriko, she wouldn't be dead and you wouldn't
1:21:16
feel this way. Fuck. Yeah. And
1:21:19
we'd be leaving you home. Yeah. Which is maybe
1:21:21
not the best thing to say to a person that's like
1:21:23
fill a plane full of bombs. I
1:21:25
know. It's not time to have
1:21:27
this conversation, but you're not wrong. But
1:21:30
this is where he says he's like, you knew how
1:21:32
she felt. Why didn't you marry her?
1:21:34
And this is where we get the craziest,
1:21:36
the best line in the movie of because
1:21:38
my war isn't over yet. It's
1:21:40
never been over. I've been at war
1:21:42
every day for a year, Paige. I
1:21:45
love this line, though. Oh, I love
1:21:48
this line because you are still sitting
1:21:50
in the like, I can't believe Godzilla
1:21:52
killed his wife. Like you were
1:21:54
sitting in that revenge rage with them and you're
1:21:56
like, you're damn right. Yeah, it's not over.
1:21:58
It's not over. So that fucking lizard's
1:22:01
head is blown half off, okay? So they
1:22:03
find a plane, but it was a test
1:22:05
plane. It wasn't one that was flown in
1:22:07
war. It was like the next generation of
1:22:09
what they were building. And because of
1:22:11
that, and when the Americans grounded their whole air
1:22:13
force, they didn't really finish building it.
1:22:16
So like they need a mechanic who can finish
1:22:18
it. Yeah, and like a really good
1:22:20
mechanic. And he's like, I know the
1:22:22
guy, not only because he's an incredibly
1:22:24
skilled mechanic, which we knew from before,
1:22:26
he's like, but also this is part
1:22:28
of me, an unfinished battle
1:22:31
for me. I like that
1:22:33
it's a struggle to find this
1:22:35
guy. And he is adamant that
1:22:37
no, I am aware other mechanics
1:22:39
exist, but I need to give this
1:22:41
guy closure with this Godzilla thing as
1:22:44
bad as I need to get
1:22:46
it for myself. And I
1:22:48
love that. And I loved that like
1:22:50
this guy is unfindable. He goes to the
1:22:52
war office and they're like, we don't have
1:22:54
a current address. And he's like, can you
1:22:56
tell me places he's been stationed? And then
1:22:58
he just starts writing these letters. And you
1:23:00
assume that those letters are like, hey man,
1:23:02
looking for you, would love to reconnect, got
1:23:04
a special offer for you, maybe a job
1:23:07
you might want to take, but no. Godzilla
1:23:09
is back here. Yeah, no, this
1:23:11
motherfucker is playing 4D chess. He writes
1:23:13
him and then turns himself into bait
1:23:15
knowing that he can say shit that'll
1:23:17
make the mechanic look for him. So
1:23:19
he's like, bro, you know all those
1:23:22
guys that died on that island that
1:23:24
you were stationed at, your
1:23:26
best friends from the war, you killed
1:23:28
them. It's your fault they're dead. And
1:23:32
so he like, that's too much. It's
1:23:34
too much for the mechanic to handle.
1:23:36
So the mechanic tracks him down and
1:23:38
beats the shit out of it. And
1:23:41
the whole time he's beating the shit out of
1:23:43
him, he's like, I am so sorry that I
1:23:45
wrote those terrible letters. I needed to talk to
1:23:47
you. I get that this is my fault. All
1:23:50
of your friends are dead, that it's not your fault. Anyway,
1:23:52
so he's just like beating the shit out of him.
1:23:55
While he's just like trying to be like, here's our
1:23:57
plan. Like here's what we would like you to do.
1:24:00
And eventually the mechanic is on board, but it
1:24:02
takes a lot of punches. Well, essentially, it
1:24:04
takes a lot of punches, but he's like, I need
1:24:06
you to repair a fighter for me so I can
1:24:08
kill it. And the mechanic's like, I don't give a
1:24:10
shit. And he's like, no, I detonated a
1:24:12
mine in its mouth and it did more damage. And
1:24:14
I know if I flew a
1:24:16
plane with explosives down into it, I
1:24:19
could kill it, or at least hurt it way
1:24:21
worse than we have. And the guy's still like,
1:24:23
ah, fuck this. And he's like, no, I know
1:24:26
the war isn't over for you either. And he's just
1:24:28
like, fuck. He's like, God damn
1:24:30
it, he got me. It's not over.
1:24:32
It's never been over. So he
1:24:34
brings a whole mechanic crew in to make it
1:24:36
fly. Great. And they're, they're
1:24:38
talking with Doc and he's like,
1:24:41
I know it's my plan, but I know it'll take a miracle
1:24:43
for it to work. And, but all the
1:24:45
guys are still there. They're just like, yeah,
1:24:48
no, we're here to fuck up that lizard. We
1:24:52
cut to the conference room where they have
1:24:54
gotten word that Godzilla is approaching, so now
1:24:56
they're like, okay, we, we move it. Don
1:24:58
basically like we need to have him over
1:25:00
the trench at 11 tomorrow, be in positions
1:25:02
by eight. We get the device ready and
1:25:05
be with your families tonight. Cause tomorrow
1:25:07
we fuck up that lizard. But this
1:25:09
is where they're like, Hey, the
1:25:11
war did not respect the sanctity
1:25:14
of your life and while
1:25:16
we may die doing this, no,
1:25:18
we're not ordering anyone to do this. Right.
1:25:20
Please, if you are doing this, know that
1:25:22
you are doing it, not to
1:25:25
fight to the death, but to live for
1:25:27
the future, to try and save as many
1:25:29
people. Yeah. You are fighting to
1:25:31
survive. Yes. I love
1:25:33
that arc in the movie and
1:25:36
seeing everyone like go from, yes,
1:25:38
you have to die for your
1:25:41
country to, if you die for
1:25:43
your country, it's okay. It's an
1:25:45
honorable sacrifice, but it is
1:25:48
not something that is required of you.
1:25:50
And it is something that you are
1:25:52
doing because you want to live. You're
1:25:54
fighting to live. Yeah. Which is the
1:25:56
difference I think between like going and
1:25:58
learning to be a pilot. and dog
1:26:00
fighting and being willing to do that.
1:26:02
And then being asked to do like
1:26:05
kamikaze missions where you are definitely gonna
1:26:07
die. Those are two different
1:26:09
asks of a government for me.
1:26:12
Yeah, but this is also the scene where they
1:26:14
leave the kid and they're like, we leave you
1:26:16
the future. Which is just like, ugh. You
1:26:19
mean kid, not their, not? Not
1:26:21
a Kiko, yeah, the kid is
1:26:23
his nickname. Yeah, the guy who is too
1:26:26
young to go to the war, but like desperately
1:26:28
wants to be in the war. I
1:26:30
sobbed at that moment too, and we talked about it
1:26:32
a little bit before, but it is like the captain
1:26:34
of the boat and doc walking away
1:26:36
and they're like, not being a
1:26:39
part of the war is something to be grateful
1:26:41
for. It's not something to, you know, he shouldn't
1:26:43
long to be in this like traumatic, horrible thing.
1:26:45
Don't regret it. Yeah, exactly. And then
1:26:47
as they're walking away, he's yelling like,
1:26:49
I could do it, like I'm strong
1:26:51
enough or I'm capable enough to do
1:26:53
it. And they're like, you idiot, we
1:26:56
know that. That's why we need you
1:26:58
to stay and run the fucking country
1:27:00
because we are giving it to you
1:27:02
by sacrificing ourselves in this moment. And
1:27:04
that kid completely misses the emotional weight
1:27:06
of that conversation. He has no idea.
1:27:08
And so like he has his favorite
1:27:10
tugboat captain on a journey
1:27:12
and that's nuts to me. I
1:27:14
mean, yes, I get it. I get that it
1:27:17
saves the day, but like if I'm a
1:27:19
tugboat captain in Tokyo Harbor and some
1:27:21
guy is like, hey, do you want
1:27:23
to help to destroy your class cruisers?
1:27:27
Kill Godzilla? I'd be like, bro, I'm
1:27:29
a tugboat. The most I can do is
1:27:32
give him like a ride around the harbor.
1:27:35
They don't have guns. I would say no
1:27:37
to that request is all I'm saying. I
1:27:39
understand saying no to that request. Yeah. What am
1:27:41
I going to do? Push him? That's not how you kill
1:27:43
Godzilla. Yeah. We cut
1:27:45
to them working on the plane late
1:27:47
into the night and we get a
1:27:50
very deliberate shot of the seat that
1:27:52
has a panel that we can't read.
1:27:55
But that was my first indication of like, oh,
1:27:57
it's an ejection seat, which is something that
1:27:59
was called out. in the meeting right
1:28:01
before where they're like the government did not
1:28:03
value our lives during war they built planes
1:28:05
without ejector seats they they Asked
1:28:07
us to fly planes into stuff like they
1:28:09
made submarines that you couldn't get out of like
1:28:12
all of these things And so
1:28:14
we see him putting like making sure that
1:28:16
ejector seat works. Yeah, we cut to Koichi
1:28:18
picking up a Kiko and Basically
1:28:21
having one last night tucking
1:28:24
her in Oh, I'm sorry.
1:28:26
I'm crying too It's so sad like he is
1:28:28
saying he's saying goodbye And I
1:28:30
love the way this works because the arc
1:28:32
of the movie like if he had decided
1:28:34
that I am Willing to
1:28:37
sacrifice my life for these people I
1:28:39
love and in memory of this woman that
1:28:41
I loved because remember he thinks Sorry,
1:28:44
I'm trying not to go Rico
1:28:46
is dead, right? so he's like I will sacrifice
1:28:48
my life for my daughter in my city and
1:28:51
and that is ultimately not what he's choosing but
1:28:53
he is It still works
1:28:55
because he very he very well might
1:28:57
die in this so it is that
1:29:00
Difference between dog fighting and a kamikaze
1:29:02
mission, right? But he still puts things
1:29:04
in place in case he does in
1:29:06
case he writes that note He gives
1:29:08
the money to the terrible lady who
1:29:10
became more or less the ants like
1:29:13
he is making sure that his quote
1:29:15
Daughter is taken care of you know
1:29:17
yeah, and it works because in my
1:29:19
mind he was gonna kill himself in
1:29:21
the movie Well the
1:29:23
movie sets it up to think that that's what's going
1:29:25
on It still works like cuz I get
1:29:27
that like just as a responsible parent
1:29:29
who was in this situation And has
1:29:31
made the choice to go fight Godzilla
1:29:33
even yes with the possibility of death
1:29:36
is just making sure His daughter
1:29:38
is cared for in that eventuality. Yeah, I Stopped
1:29:41
I was crying the whole time page like from
1:29:43
here to the end more or less one She
1:29:45
drew a picture for him and he like
1:29:47
takes it with him and yours like oh
1:29:49
and honestly This is this is terrible.
1:29:52
Oh, she has terrible art Okay
1:29:57
Draw a key coat a lot of A
1:30:00
lot of movies do this where they
1:30:02
like, they have a picture of their
1:30:04
wife or their loved one and like
1:30:06
a drawing their kid did. And to
1:30:08
me, it's better if that drawing is
1:30:11
absolute shit. It's like trash. You know
1:30:13
what I'm saying? It's like, that is
1:30:15
like, if that's the art that dad
1:30:17
saved, he fucking loves that kid, man.
1:30:19
Yeah, 100 b- cuz it's literally
1:30:22
like three circles with red hair.
1:30:25
But because she's a little tiny baby.
1:30:27
I've seen pictures from my youth where
1:30:30
like my fridge is visible behind us in
1:30:32
the photos. I can see the art my
1:30:34
mom was putting up on that fridge. And
1:30:36
let's just say Todd wasn't sending the best
1:30:38
art. You know what I'm saying? I'm like,
1:30:40
I wasn't capable. But my mom must have
1:30:43
loved me. You know what I'm saying? Loved
1:30:45
you. Cuz that art would trash. Hey,
1:30:47
my mom still has like macaroni necklaces and things that
1:30:49
I made that she wears on Mother's Day sometimes. Aren't
1:30:52
moms the best? I'm not. I
1:30:54
love em. Anyway, so he leaves
1:30:56
her knowing that the neighbor will
1:30:58
find her. Cuz he leaves
1:31:00
early in the morning to get to the
1:31:03
plane. And like, he gets on the plane
1:31:05
and the mechanic is walking him through everything.
1:31:07
He's like, okay, this is what I'm gonna
1:31:09
do. These are like- Yeah, pull this
1:31:11
lever to arm the bombs. He goes through like,
1:31:13
you've got a, I don't know, 500 kilogram
1:31:16
bomb in the nose and a 500 kilogram
1:31:18
bomb in the fuselage of the plane. Basically,
1:31:20
the plane is all bombs. Yeah, you're
1:31:23
essentially, I think he literally says I
1:31:25
took out one of the gas tanks and
1:31:27
put a bomb. Like, so more or less
1:31:29
you're flying a bomb, fly the bomb into
1:31:31
his mouth and feed it like it's a
1:31:33
pill to Godzilla and then explode it. Yes,
1:31:36
well, and we pull back and we hear him explain
1:31:38
one more thing. We don't know what it is. We
1:31:40
will find out later it's the ejector seat. So,
1:31:42
Sumiko finds Akiko and finds the
1:31:45
note and realizes, oh my god,
1:31:47
he is maybe going to die
1:31:50
fighting Godzilla. Yeah. But
1:31:52
as that's happening, she gets a fucking
1:31:54
telegram and is like, oh my god,
1:31:56
which I was like, what? Is Noriko
1:31:58
alive? I didn't think- that at this
1:32:00
point that's what I thought I honestly had
1:32:03
no idea what the telegram was they had
1:32:05
so sold me on that Noriko was dead
1:32:07
I was like yeah she was mom Kyushio
1:32:09
so they had to kill her in the
1:32:11
half the halfway point of this movie right
1:32:14
because she's such a perfect character for him
1:32:17
but no they didn't have to kill her and I
1:32:19
loved that yeah well and what we'll find
1:32:21
out because the next half hour is basically
1:32:23
them fucking up this giant lizard so
1:32:26
they find out that the underwater decoy
1:32:28
team has been destroyed so some people
1:32:30
do die trying to take this lizard
1:32:32
down but not as many as would
1:32:34
have basically yeah but he fighter planes
1:32:36
him over the like designated area they
1:32:38
sink him down and he immediately
1:32:41
is still alive yeah
1:32:43
immediately is like he's going he goes all
1:32:46
the way to the bottom and it's fine
1:32:48
I want to say this though when they're
1:32:50
wrapping him up in that belt of freon
1:32:52
or whatever and he's standing it's
1:32:54
supposed to be like 1500 me how
1:32:56
tall is God's eye how big are
1:32:58
those legs that he is we don't
1:33:00
have any water like that I
1:33:03
just okay but Paige in my mind
1:33:05
follow me on this I think Godzilla
1:33:07
might be part duck because they
1:33:09
can like wait hold on what follow me
1:33:11
guys I'll feed you baby birds this is
1:33:13
not a joke this is an actual theory
1:33:15
you know okay ducks when they're like in
1:33:17
water they're like their upper section is like
1:33:20
yeah it is very very calm but their
1:33:22
legs are like yeah they're like really moving
1:33:24
so in my mind he's not just he's
1:33:26
not really tall obviously that'd be dumb he's
1:33:28
like kicking his little legs and you can't
1:33:30
see him because they're under the water
1:33:32
and that's how he's like getting probably 60%
1:33:35
of his body out of the water all I'm saying is he's like
1:33:38
holding a ton of weight litter a
1:33:40
literal ton page not just a ton of
1:33:42
weight like a literal ton of weight above
1:33:44
the water I mean we did see him
1:33:46
walk around Ginza and fuck people up I'm
1:33:49
not saying he's not capable I'm saying he's
1:33:51
duck like in this moment because it's upper
1:33:54
torso is like calm like he's standing on
1:33:56
the bottom yeah yeah oh yeah for
1:33:58
sure yeah he's just walking out into
1:34:00
the ocean like it's nothing. Like he's Jesus
1:34:03
walking on water. Yeah, except the water he can
1:34:05
walk on is like, I don't know, 50 feet
1:34:07
down. Yeah, it's fucked
1:34:09
up. But so he looks really
1:34:12
upset. He's he's powering up.
1:34:14
But boom, they drag him down
1:34:16
to the bottom. And they're like,
1:34:18
All right, we don't
1:34:20
know for sure. Like, but an act
1:34:22
plan B just in case. So they
1:34:25
deploy the flotation devices, he floats up
1:34:27
almost to the top and then he bites the
1:34:30
cables. And so they need
1:34:32
to pull him up fast to potentially
1:34:34
detonate the like lifeboats that he put
1:34:37
around him, but also potentially detonate him
1:34:39
as, you know, explosive decompression. So here's
1:34:41
why I don't think explosive decompression will
1:34:43
work. And I don't think enough people know
1:34:45
this about me. I am an advanced underwater
1:34:48
scuba diver and paddy certified. You are. I
1:34:50
know a little bit about this. Excuse me
1:34:52
as I push my glasses up on the
1:34:54
brim of my nose. If
1:34:56
you breathe in and then go
1:34:59
down, you have the same amount
1:35:01
of oxygen and don't breathe out, I should say.
1:35:03
And don't take in any more air. You have
1:35:05
the same amount of oxygen like it compresses the
1:35:07
further you go down. And as
1:35:09
you go up, it would then expands to
1:35:11
where it was when you took the breath.
1:35:13
Right. Right. So if he is not breathing
1:35:15
underwater, like if Godzilla is not taking a
1:35:17
breath, which I assume he can't, like
1:35:20
I assume he breathes air like other
1:35:22
lizards do. I don't know for sure.
1:35:24
Except that he lives in the deep
1:35:26
ocean. True. Like I see, I don't
1:35:28
know. So like, as long as
1:35:30
he doesn't take a breath, though, he could go
1:35:32
down to that death and come back up and
1:35:34
the air in his body would be the same
1:35:37
amount. Right. So it wouldn't kill him that way.
1:35:39
But the air that they blow into those balloons,
1:35:41
more or less, would explode. It would crush
1:35:43
him and explode off of him. And that
1:35:45
could potentially kill. I mean, I honestly think
1:35:47
it's not going to kill him either way
1:35:50
because he's sort of immune from the outside.
1:35:52
But yeah, that's their plan. And they don't have
1:35:54
a lot of information to go off of. So they're just
1:35:56
like throwing shit at the wall. But he does
1:35:58
stall out at 800 feet. And they're
1:36:00
like well, we can't lift him because the boats
1:36:02
are trying to pull him up Yeah, and this
1:36:05
is where the kid comes back with like with
1:36:07
all the tugboats or whatever and they pull him
1:36:09
up Help it the tugboats like
1:36:11
latch on to the destroyers and they like lift
1:36:13
him that way Yeah, so it's like the collective
1:36:16
might of all the boats lift
1:36:18
him up So it's like this metaphorical like
1:36:20
civilian and military operation like I love it.
1:36:22
It's great Yes, one of my favorite
1:36:24
parts of this from the cinematography perspective
1:36:27
the shots of the plane Yeah that
1:36:29
are either from cameras on the wing
1:36:32
or a companion paint plane flying with
1:36:34
them, but they're so smooth Yeah, those
1:36:36
look amazing like to the point where
1:36:38
I'm like if this is green screen
1:36:40
This is the best green screen I've
1:36:42
ever seen. Yeah, if it's not green
1:36:45
screen They were incredibly inventive about how
1:36:47
they got these shots by attaching cameras
1:36:49
to the plane And
1:36:51
high marks, it looks beautiful. It's
1:36:53
so good. They did an amazing job.
1:36:56
Yeah I mean it won awards for like visual
1:36:58
effects like yeah, it should look
1:37:00
amazing So like they bring
1:37:02
him back up and at this point there's
1:37:04
like nothing else they could do except for
1:37:06
that plane Because he's
1:37:08
in my notes It just says blow that
1:37:11
lives because this was two in the morning
1:37:13
and I was crying and screaming and so
1:37:15
like I love it But as they lift it up
1:37:17
and like the Godzilla is coming up out of the
1:37:19
water You see the tail charging like it is a
1:37:21
bow to do a heat vision and Jack on them
1:37:24
and like instead of that The
1:37:27
plane and like you see he's
1:37:29
coming in. Yeah, we also in
1:37:31
this scene get it is complete silence
1:37:33
Which is no impactful perfect choice Because
1:37:36
you watch it like as Godzilla's power in
1:37:38
up everybody on the boats basically realize like
1:37:41
we're we are gonna die today Yeah, we're
1:37:43
fucked. We tried our best. There's nothing we
1:37:45
can do. Yeah, and in comes this plane
1:37:48
and they realize oh, no He's
1:37:50
gonna die. Yeah, like he's gonna matter Yeah,
1:37:53
they even like the captain not
1:37:55
the naval captain who was like leading the operation but
1:37:57
the captain of the note a yeah Yeah, yeah Thank
1:38:00
you. He is like on the radio, like
1:38:02
don't do this, don't die for this,
1:38:04
like it's please don't. And everyone else
1:38:06
is like yelling no and stuff and
1:38:08
he's just like barreling right for it
1:38:10
like your dad with asparagus when you
1:38:12
were six and like, or like six
1:38:14
months. And like he, the way it's
1:38:17
shot, the way it's shown to you
1:38:19
is so great because there is a
1:38:21
hint of, did he pull the ejection
1:38:23
right in time or was that a
1:38:25
part of the fuselage coming off the
1:38:27
plane as it makes impact with his
1:38:29
mouth? Cause you see like a little
1:38:31
thing. Exactly and so like, I was like,
1:38:33
oh my God, please. I'm
1:38:35
like weeping, like, oh my God, please,
1:38:38
please, please, please let him be alive and
1:38:40
then. But he blows the
1:38:42
top of Godzilla's head off, great. His
1:38:44
brain is in the atmosphere. Like Godzilla
1:38:46
does get blown up but you
1:38:48
still don't know if he's dead or not. But then we
1:38:50
see the ejector seat. Yeah and
1:38:53
you see the parachute open and he's
1:38:55
like landing and everyone fucking salutes him
1:38:59
which is like such a, it's such
1:39:01
a great resolution to where this started.
1:39:03
Well and the mechanic who's just like, oh.
1:39:05
I know, I know. I know
1:39:08
that honestly the mechanic scene I think
1:39:10
is one of the
1:39:12
most impactful for me because of the forgiveness in
1:39:14
that is so immense. And
1:39:17
like to go from like, I
1:39:19
hate this person to like, I
1:39:21
bet those people are lifelong friends.
1:39:23
You know what I'm saying? Oh God, I hope
1:39:25
so. Like they might not talk every day but
1:39:27
they will go to bat for each other and
1:39:30
like to see that change in that relationship and
1:39:32
like it's so earned as well. I don't know,
1:39:34
I loved it. Just crying so
1:39:37
much at this point. Well and
1:39:40
Koichi's forgiveness of like, it's okay
1:39:42
for me not to die. Yeah,
1:39:44
well and literally everyone in his life
1:39:47
since the beginning of this movie has
1:39:49
been like, you should have died. You
1:39:52
should have died. And that slowly starts
1:39:54
to change with his
1:39:56
surrogate wife Noriko. And then with
1:39:58
his chosen family. They start
1:40:01
to be like, hey, you are a
1:40:03
valuable person. We love you. We want
1:40:05
you in our lives. Don't you know
1:40:07
and so he Eventually does
1:40:09
sort of come on board with the I
1:40:11
do deserve to live and there's so much
1:40:14
There's so much therapy that I had to
1:40:16
go through to get to that point. It's
1:40:18
just like so sad man I
1:40:20
think I cried a lot in this movie because
1:40:22
of just a Specific stuff that
1:40:24
I've been through and there have been times
1:40:26
in my life We're like if I didn't
1:40:29
start going to therapy I would not be
1:40:31
here because it was like it was destroying
1:40:33
me So to see someone go on that
1:40:35
like sort of similar journey and like it's
1:40:37
just I was just weeping me It's I
1:40:39
cried for about three minutes after
1:40:41
the credits. I was still I
1:40:43
was crying for like 20 minutes after
1:40:45
the credits Yeah, man. I went to
1:40:48
bed and woke Jake up with crying
1:40:50
and I'm sure he was Like
1:40:53
I'm trying to I have to work tomorrow
1:40:55
like what are you doing anyway, so he
1:40:57
he survives he makes it back He hasn't
1:40:59
seen minus one when he does see it. He's gonna
1:41:01
be like no, I get it. You were right to
1:41:03
wait I get it. I get it but
1:41:06
who should show up but sumiko who's like First
1:41:09
of all, fuck you for not telling me
1:41:11
that you were gonna try and kill yourself,
1:41:13
right? Secondly, she's alive boom,
1:41:17
so he goes to visit her and just like Openly
1:41:20
sob it was just like oh when
1:41:22
she when he walked in and
1:41:24
she says is your war finally
1:41:26
over I like
1:41:29
lost it I was already crying and now
1:41:31
I'm full on like, you know Like when
1:41:33
your dad was crying as a kid But
1:41:35
like you like he wasn't really
1:41:37
making a sound his shoulders were to shake
1:41:39
It was like deep cry like that's how
1:41:41
I was crying. My dogs were like what
1:41:43
is wrong with you? It was
1:41:45
so sad. He's like yes. Yes, of course. It's
1:41:47
over. I love you I want to be with
1:41:50
like it's clear that he wants to be with
1:41:52
her It's also clear that she has an infection
1:41:54
of some sort that we will have to discuss
1:41:57
Wait, what did you not see the black
1:41:59
like she's got? I don't know what it
1:42:01
is. I thought you might know but she's never really
1:42:03
got like She's been infected
1:42:05
by like some black. She's got a black mark
1:42:07
on her neck I don't know if I feel
1:42:09
it looks like it might even be like in
1:42:11
her veins You know, I didn't get a great
1:42:13
look at it Cuz I was once but like I
1:42:15
think that that's it has to be a setup for
1:42:18
something in the universe that I don't know Yeah, I
1:42:20
I did not catch that but yes, it
1:42:22
is on her neck and it's from
1:42:24
over you like looking it up. Nice Okay, I'm looking
1:42:27
it up right now. Some people say that
1:42:29
she is Impregnated
1:42:31
with a Godzilla, baby. Hang on.
1:42:33
Yeah, that's what everyone's saying But
1:42:35
like wait, is she gonna give birth
1:42:37
to baby Godzilla that then becomes space? Oh, I
1:42:39
don't know. Didn't you say that was the same
1:42:41
one? Hang on. No, well that's yeah
1:42:43
Hold on details fueling fan theories her
1:42:45
neck her back her pussy and her
1:42:48
crack her Godzilla down her crack What
1:42:50
happened cut that babe? Hang on a
1:42:53
piece of Godzilla's flesh is seen mutating at the bottom
1:42:55
of the ocean However, we may have
1:42:57
missed another potential clue on her
1:42:59
neck now the hospital She's seen with with
1:43:02
what appears to be a black mark on her neck.
1:43:04
This is I despite being so noticeable No explanation is
1:43:06
given they assumed it was radiation
1:43:08
poisoning one of the reasons why she's presumed
1:43:10
dead is because she was caught in the
1:43:12
blast radius and so it may
1:43:15
be radiation sickness So she may
1:43:17
later die of radiation exposure I mean,
1:43:19
I'm sure that there's a lot of things that
1:43:22
they could do with that. That's what I would
1:43:24
kind of assume Yeah, I didn't know if that
1:43:26
was something like from the universe Like if I
1:43:28
don't know if like DNA like if you've Godzilla
1:43:30
DNA burned you or some shit like you became
1:43:32
something or I don't know I've never really gotten
1:43:35
deep on the lore in Godzilla So in
1:43:37
Shin Godzilla, which is one of many
1:43:39
one of my good friends told me I should watch
1:43:41
that one after they saw that I was watching this
1:43:43
one into this. Yeah Godzilla's tail so
1:43:48
It's possible Maybe
1:43:50
that is what people are getting at and so
1:43:52
the director eventually came out and said they were
1:43:54
G cells Which have a brief history
1:43:56
in the Godzilla franchise and were utilized to create
1:43:58
Godzilla rivals Aiolante and
1:44:01
space Godzilla So
1:44:03
some fans speculated that it foreshadows those villains
1:44:05
as a arrival at a potential sequel because
1:44:07
what we do see is that Godzilla is
1:44:09
Regenerating in the ocean, but the
1:44:11
director didn't reveal what the G cells
1:44:14
mean for Noriko specifically which leaves it
1:44:16
open for future series Can't
1:44:22
wait to see what those where that goes and I
1:44:24
bet this gets a sequel because it's it did well
1:44:26
We'll talk about that in box office Well, this
1:44:28
is what's really interesting because it did it
1:44:30
did great In fact, I would argue that
1:44:32
this probably did better than the American ones
1:44:35
Maybe the American ones are still out and they're making
1:44:37
more of them and faster But
1:44:39
like we live in a in a
1:44:41
generation now where like we have and
1:44:43
we I guess always have two separate
1:44:45
Godzilla tracks We have the American Godzilla
1:44:47
track that is completely different and has
1:44:49
its own universe and lore Versus
1:44:52
the Toho Japanese Godzilla track, which
1:44:54
this is now establishing has its
1:44:56
own lore So like I
1:44:59
think we'll continue to get the movies
1:45:01
but they will not combine or touch
1:45:03
which I think is really interesting That
1:45:05
like we'll get two tracks
1:45:08
essentially. They're not canonically connected at
1:45:10
all And I honestly hope they never are
1:45:12
because I think there is a lane for the
1:45:14
like American fast and the
1:45:16
furious version of Godzilla and Elaine for
1:45:19
more like emotionally driven Godzilla stories or
1:45:21
kaiju didn't have to be Godzilla necessarily
1:45:23
like if you're right a mother a
1:45:26
stand like page over here Then
1:45:28
I you know, why not give it a look
1:45:30
but like I liked it The the Japanese light
1:45:33
is much more emotionally driven stories and the American
1:45:35
lane is much more fun action movies, you know
1:45:37
Yeah, anyway, so page having seen the movie and
1:45:39
they talked about the movie. What'd you think about
1:45:41
Godzilla minus one? I loved it I loved it
1:45:43
so much Not only is it
1:45:46
definitely the best Godzilla movie of I have ever
1:45:48
seen it's one of the best movies in general
1:45:50
I have seen in the last few years a
1:45:52
hundred percent. Yeah, I Honestly was
1:45:55
terrified that this movie was gonna end
1:45:57
just like the notebook where this guy
1:45:59
like upset over this literal
1:46:01
monster for most of the movie and
1:46:03
then it ends in a murder suicide
1:46:06
but it doesn't he does survive it
1:46:08
but I really dug it man I
1:46:10
loved this movie it was so good
1:46:13
and honestly like I don't know if
1:46:15
the other Godzilla movies are scary this
1:46:17
one isn't scary I did jump once
1:46:20
and that's that first dinosaur
1:46:22
Godzilla level reveal that you see
1:46:24
and it was a jump
1:46:26
scary kind of moment but that's really
1:46:28
it like it's really accessible if you're
1:46:30
scared of horror movies yeah and it's
1:46:32
so good you everyone should watch it
1:46:34
but Paige do you have any fun
1:46:36
facts for us I do I have
1:46:39
a lot of fun facts well here it
1:46:41
is with your fun facts instead
1:46:43
of creating a new roar they simply
1:46:45
play the original Godzilla roar over loudspeakers
1:46:48
that recorded the audio hell yeah love
1:46:50
that minus one in the title refers
1:46:52
to the fact that Japan had already been
1:46:54
devastated by World War two aka brought down
1:46:56
to zero and with the emergence of Godzilla
1:46:59
it puts Japan into the negative so
1:47:01
in the Japanese tagline for the
1:47:03
film it translates to post-war Japan
1:47:05
from zero to minus basically
1:47:08
like it's gonna take
1:47:10
you as low as possible and even
1:47:12
lower and then the you know triumph
1:47:14
of the spirit will you know level
1:47:17
the score at the end of the
1:47:19
movie yeah Gareth Edwards who directed the
1:47:21
Godzilla remake for the American track that
1:47:23
came out in 2014 attended
1:47:26
a screening of this film and
1:47:28
said that he was extremely jealous
1:47:30
because quote this is what a
1:47:32
Godzilla movie should be like Oh
1:47:34
hard agree yes hard agree bro
1:47:36
I mean I say that having no
1:47:38
knowledge of the wider expanded universe yes
1:47:40
but I loved this movie when asked
1:47:42
about the differences between American adaptations and
1:47:44
the Japanese originals Yamazaki who directed this
1:47:47
film stated that American
1:47:49
Godzilla is only focused on being
1:47:51
monstrous but Japanese Godzilla is both
1:47:53
a monster and a type of
1:47:55
God in the way that the
1:47:57
Japanese view a God malevolent and
1:47:59
destructive but reflective of the human spirit. And
1:48:02
I'm like, yes, you mean a better story.
1:48:05
Like, you mean a more holistic
1:48:07
view of the human and world
1:48:09
experience? And man, it does
1:48:11
really feel like in this movie, everyone gets
1:48:14
an arc. Like the lady who is terrible
1:48:16
to our main character at the beginning becomes
1:48:18
like the aunt figure and like is a very
1:48:20
much loved member of the family at the end
1:48:22
of the movie. And I love that. And they
1:48:24
do that with sort of all the characters. Yes.
1:48:28
There were some Easter eggs for
1:48:30
people like me who got huge,
1:48:32
either Godzilla fans or Pharaoh Monch
1:48:34
fans or both because they use
1:48:37
the classic Godzilla suite whenever
1:48:39
Godzilla makes landfall in this movie.
1:48:41
The first time he makes landfall
1:48:44
in Ginza, they use the suite
1:48:46
as composed by Akira Ikufube from
1:48:48
Mothra versus Godzilla, the 1964 version.
1:48:52
The second time in the finale, it's
1:48:54
from King Kong versus Godzilla in 1962
1:48:58
by the same composer. And then additionally,
1:49:00
there's an arrangement from 1983 of
1:49:03
the same theme that gets used. And
1:49:06
that one was also reused in
1:49:08
the end credits of Godzilla versus
1:49:11
Destoroya. Yeah, Destoroya from 1995. But
1:49:14
it's that, ba, ba, ba,
1:49:16
ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba,
1:49:18
ba, ba, like classic. It's
1:49:20
one of the recognizable like monster themes.
1:49:22
Yes. Like, yeah. According
1:49:25
to the director, when he began working on
1:49:27
this film, it was very important to him
1:49:30
that this Godzilla remained close to the themes
1:49:32
of the original film of addressing issues
1:49:34
of war and the proliferation
1:49:36
of nuclear weapons, unlike the
1:49:38
American versions where it is just a monster.
1:49:41
Right, because America's like, no, we don't have anything
1:49:43
to learn through Godzilla movies. Of course not, no.
1:49:46
What would we have to learn about the dangers of
1:49:48
nuclear war? Yeah. The director
1:49:50
also said that the original Godzilla
1:49:52
or Gojira, Mothra and King Ghidorah
1:49:54
and giant monsters all out attack
1:49:57
are their favorite Godzilla movies.
1:49:59
Nice. for me gives me hope that we
1:50:01
will see Mothra in the future. Because
1:50:03
I love Mothra. Paige, I would
1:50:05
love to attend a screening of
1:50:08
this Godzilla versus this universe's Mothra,
1:50:10
wearing Moth wings and like
1:50:12
just dressed as Mothra. It would be great. I would
1:50:14
100% do it. Yes. So
1:50:17
this is the first Godzilla movie to be a
1:50:19
period piece set in the
1:50:21
American submission of Japan a decade before
1:50:23
the original Gojira in 1954. According
1:50:26
to a pamphlet released with a film
1:50:29
in Japan, Shin Godzilla from 2016,
1:50:31
which I have not seen. I need to go
1:50:33
back and watch that one. People say it's great. Was
1:50:35
previously so successful, both critically and
1:50:37
financially, that Toho was struggling to
1:50:39
make a follow-up. So Toho is
1:50:42
the studio that has had Godzilla
1:50:44
rights almost this entire time and
1:50:46
then licensed them out to American
1:50:48
studios. So a lot of proposals
1:50:50
came in to Toho for the
1:50:53
next Godzilla movie, but they didn't think they could
1:50:55
live up to Shin Godzilla, which was
1:50:57
now basically the favorite on the
1:50:59
Japanese timeline. So it wasn't
1:51:01
until Yamazaki who directed this film proposed
1:51:03
making a period piece of the first
1:51:05
instance of Godzilla that Toho agreed and
1:51:07
decided to make a new film. And
1:51:09
boy am I glad they did because
1:51:12
holy shit, it's great. Yeah, man.
1:51:14
And I honestly wanna see like
1:51:16
a brand new track of Godzilla
1:51:18
timelines with this sort of team
1:51:20
and have them make five, three,
1:51:23
five, 12, I don't care, as
1:51:25
many movies as they want because they're great. Yeah,
1:51:27
okay. So when Godzilla is like powering
1:51:29
up, the dorsal plates on his
1:51:31
back shift outwards. They kind of like
1:51:33
click out. That is actually a reference
1:51:35
to Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah, giant
1:51:37
monsters all out attack from 2001 because
1:51:41
the Godzilla suit in that film also had a
1:51:43
mechanism to do that. That's the other thing you
1:51:45
need to know about old Godzilla movies. Most of
1:51:47
them are a dude in a suit and amazing
1:51:49
miniature work. But it's like a
1:51:51
guy in a rubber suit. And yet it's
1:51:54
still, it looks kind of sick. Like
1:51:56
it's great, love it. No notes. Yeah,
1:51:59
no notes. of this Godzilla
1:52:01
was supposed to look like the suits
1:52:03
with the posture more upright rather than leaning
1:52:05
forward. It mixes elements from
1:52:08
a lot of prior films, one of the
1:52:10
strongest being the 90s series
1:52:12
design where that's the generic design Toho had
1:52:15
used for a long time for merchandising, but
1:52:17
it is the one that also gets used
1:52:19
in that giant monsters all out attack from
1:52:21
2001. The
1:52:24
early concept art even gave Godzilla
1:52:26
pupa-less white eyes much like that
1:52:28
version. But ultimately they
1:52:31
gave him the eyes of the older
1:52:33
versions of Godzilla. Man and I'll say this
1:52:35
about those eyes when he is
1:52:37
swimming and chasing them in those boats
1:52:39
and his eyes are just above
1:52:41
the water and the water is
1:52:43
like crusting around his face like
1:52:45
yes it is ominous and scary
1:52:47
like man that would be terrifying.
1:52:49
Yes the name of the protagonist
1:52:51
so uh Koichi's last name Shikishima
1:52:53
is the name of the squadron
1:52:55
that conducted the first successful kamikaze
1:52:57
attack. No shit. So the Shikishima
1:52:59
squadron led by Lieutenant Yukio Seiki
1:53:02
hit and sank the USS St.
1:53:04
Louis in 1944. Okay. So Steven Spielberg loved
1:53:09
this one it's his favorite Godzilla. Oh nice
1:53:12
I mean I could see that because
1:53:14
like he did Jurassic Park and this is a
1:53:16
very like dinosaur version of Godzilla. I like that
1:53:18
that makes sense though. Yeah Yamazaki coming back to
1:53:20
Shin Godzilla which I think that's what I got
1:53:22
to watch next but he said Shin
1:53:24
Godzilla was amazing when Toho asked me if I would do
1:53:27
the next Godzilla movie I could only think I have to
1:53:29
follow that one which is why
1:53:31
he took it in a different direction and made
1:53:33
a period piece. So good call. Yeah
1:53:36
good call. So the appearance in this film
1:53:38
was closely based on the design from a 2021
1:53:41
CGI short film that accompanied
1:53:43
Godzilla the ride which is
1:53:45
an amusement park attraction in
1:53:48
Tokyo I'm gonna struggle. Tokyo
1:53:50
Rosella. Toko Rosella. Sure. And
1:53:53
that short was also directed by the same
1:53:55
director who directed this movie but it was
1:53:57
a throwback to the older era which is
1:54:00
why I think we have so much
1:54:02
adherence to some of the older Godzilla
1:54:04
movies in this one. This
1:54:06
is the second non-English language
1:54:09
film nominated for the Academy
1:54:11
Award for Best Visual Effects.
1:54:13
Nice. Yeah, after All Quiet
1:54:15
on the Western Front from 2022, Godzilla is the first
1:54:17
one to win. But that should
1:54:19
make you upset that it's taken that long.
1:54:22
Also All Quiet on the Western Front is great. Oh
1:54:24
yes, yeah. But yeah, those are your
1:54:27
fun facts. Well thank you for those fun facts,
1:54:29
Paige. Let's talk a little bit about Box Office. Now
1:54:31
I normally ask what you think the budget was for
1:54:33
this film. And Paige, do you have a guess? Oh
1:54:36
man, I bet this was expensive. I
1:54:38
will say there is some controversy, so we'll talk about it.
1:54:40
But if you'd love to guess, I'd love to hear it.
1:54:42
I feel well, and I can only guess
1:54:44
based on what I know this would cost
1:54:46
to make in America. Right, yeah. And I
1:54:48
do know things cost a lot less in
1:54:51
Japan. And we'll talk about it. In America,
1:54:53
this would have cost you $100 million. Probably.
1:54:57
All in, this is Marvel movie money. I
1:54:59
think in Japan, this costs you $40 million.
1:55:02
Yeah, okay, cool. So the controversy
1:55:04
is, it's not really a controversy.
1:55:06
So when they initially made the
1:55:08
movie, it was in yen, right?
1:55:10
And it's just a different budget
1:55:12
over there. Different exchange rate. Yeah.
1:55:15
So the first websites that were reporting a US
1:55:17
dollar amount were websites like Variety and IGN and
1:55:20
The Times and The Hollywood Reporter. And they were
1:55:22
all saying it was 15 million,
1:55:24
roughly 2.2 billion yen. However,
1:55:27
Yamazaki said that the figure was
1:55:29
probably closer to about 10 million
1:55:32
US dollars. Okay. Which
1:55:34
is around 1.5 billion yen. So it's
1:55:37
somewhere between roughly between 10 and 15
1:55:39
million. Looks amazing for
1:55:41
that money. Like every
1:55:43
cent of that is on the screen. Yeah.
1:55:46
Okay, so while I was doing research for this, I
1:55:49
also learned that initially
1:55:51
the final set piece was not
1:55:53
going to happen in the ocean.
1:55:56
The reason that happened was because
1:55:59
one of their graphics. people who worked in that
1:56:01
department was just like rendering water effects
1:56:03
in his spare time at home and
1:56:06
like the director like, hey, we
1:56:08
should use this. Yeah. So
1:56:10
he was like, okay, cool. So he was like,
1:56:12
that's why they moved it to being in the
1:56:14
water. Now doing those effects takes a
1:56:17
lot of computing processing power. Yeah. And it was
1:56:19
like a team of 35. It was like a
1:56:21
small team. So like they worked
1:56:23
very hard on this. And it was like a
1:56:25
petabyte of data for the whole movie. Oh
1:56:28
my God. And like terabytes are an insane
1:56:30
amount of data and a perabyte or petabyte
1:56:32
is like 1024 terabytes.
1:56:35
It's just, it's an insane amount of
1:56:38
data. I have all of the podcast
1:56:40
episodes we've ever done on one four
1:56:42
gigabyte hard drive. Yeah. And
1:56:44
this is for like, it's so much bigger than
1:56:47
that. Anyway, that's so crazy. So I thought that
1:56:49
was super interesting that that's the reason they moved
1:56:51
that final set piece into the water.
1:56:54
Anyway, so this movie premiered in
1:56:56
the U S on December 1st
1:56:59
and it was number three. The
1:57:01
week it came out. Now it
1:57:03
was up against Renaissance a
1:57:05
film by Beyonce page. I saw that
1:57:07
that weekend. I saw Renaissance. That's
1:57:10
how I got butter in my eye. I
1:57:13
forgot that it was at the, at the
1:57:15
Beyonce film. Also Renaissance fucking
1:57:18
great. Of course. Go
1:57:20
watch Renaissance. It's amazing. Of course.
1:57:23
Number two was the Hunger Games, the ballot
1:57:25
of songbirds and snakes, which I would say
1:57:27
that's what you saw. That is what I
1:57:29
saw that weekend. I didn't have the same
1:57:31
reaction that you had to the Beyonce thing.
1:57:33
My eye was unscathed, but I did enjoy
1:57:35
the movie. Sure. Number three
1:57:38
this weekend was obviously Godzilla minus one.
1:57:40
Number four was trolls band together, which
1:57:42
page is a pun because in this
1:57:44
movie, the trolls form a band. I
1:57:46
don't know. I didn't see it, but that's
1:57:48
probably what it is. I don't know the troll universe at all. You're
1:57:51
probably better off for it. Number five
1:57:54
is the movie wish, which
1:57:56
I believe is about Chinese
1:57:58
purchasing website that you can buy
1:58:00
things at a very cheap rate and they
1:58:02
will ship over slowly for you. Like
1:58:05
you buy your movie tickets, but you don't get to watch
1:58:07
the movie until like six weeks later. It's
1:58:09
been on streaming for like a month. Like
1:58:12
this is the last time I run a movie from Teemu. And
1:58:14
you're like, wait, I thought, I thought Matt Damon
1:58:16
was in this, but it's just Jesse Plumbin. That
1:58:20
would be some wish or Teemu type shit,
1:58:22
but it actually is just the Disney movie
1:58:24
wish, which you, I heard good things. Yeah,
1:58:26
I was going to say, which if you
1:58:28
haven't seen, you're in the same boat as
1:58:30
me, but I hear it's great. So what
1:58:32
do you think Godzilla minus one made in
1:58:34
its opening weekend? Opening weekend. Yeah, it
1:58:36
was third. Like 13, 13 million. Yeah,
1:58:40
yeah, you're close. It was actually $11.4 million,
1:58:42
which, which if you believe the director,
1:58:44
that is the director Yamazaki, that is
1:58:46
under the budget. Cause it would be
1:58:48
like right at $10 million is the
1:58:50
budget you said it was. Anyway, um,
1:58:52
if you think it's the Hollywood reporter
1:58:54
one, that's 15 mil, it's still really
1:58:56
good though. That's still an amazing return.
1:58:59
Yeah. Paige, here's another great
1:59:02
anecdote about this movie. Normally movies premiere, they
1:59:04
hit where they hit their first week and
1:59:06
then they slowly drop out. Godzilla
1:59:08
minus one was third in its second week
1:59:10
too, and brought in $8.5 million
1:59:13
in its second week. It just, it
1:59:15
did great. It was fourth, it's third
1:59:17
week out. It was in the top
1:59:19
10 for its first four weeks. Like
1:59:21
it did well in theaters. What
1:59:23
do you think it made domestically at the
1:59:25
box office? And I hate saying domestically, let
1:59:28
me say in the U S because that's
1:59:30
the way this tracks domestically for this movie
1:59:32
would be Japan. Um, I
1:59:34
want to say that like word got out
1:59:37
about this and people knew it was good.
1:59:39
And everyone went to see it in theaters.
1:59:41
My friend Lee told me to see it three
1:59:43
times with him in theaters. And I did listen. I'm
1:59:45
a fool for it, but yeah, he went and saw
1:59:47
it three times. So much so that like we
1:59:49
wanted to do it while it was in theaters,
1:59:51
but it wasn't everywhere. Yeah. And then we had
1:59:53
heard rumors that it was going to come to
1:59:55
streaming. So that's why we tried to do it
1:59:57
during disaster months, but then it wasn't streaming. We've
2:00:00
tried to do this movie a few times. We've tried to do
2:00:02
it a few times. I'm glad we finally got to do it because it was
2:00:04
so good. Me too. I'm gonna say
2:00:06
that this probably made at least 60
2:00:08
mil, which I know sounds low, but
2:00:11
when you think about the initial investment into
2:00:13
what it took to make this movie plus
2:00:16
the fact that it is a foreign language
2:00:18
movie, I think that's incredibly successful. I was
2:00:20
gonna bring that up and you're very very close a
2:00:22
little bit high though. It's 56.4 million
2:00:25
dollars domestically. But I think for a foreign
2:00:27
language film in America, that's great. I
2:00:29
actually watched this and then just to see
2:00:32
what it was like, I watched the first
2:00:34
maybe three or four minutes in the English
2:00:36
dub and it's not bad. So like if
2:00:38
you see an English dub version of this,
2:00:41
it's pretty well acted. I do think
2:00:43
the Japanese version is just better because
2:00:45
you get the actors in the moment's
2:00:48
actual performance. So that's I think better.
2:00:50
I don't like reading my movies either. So
2:00:52
like I get it, but it is a
2:00:54
better performance, I think. Anyway, so it made
2:00:56
56.4 million dollars domestically and
2:00:58
again, that's in the US. Yeah, it's
2:01:00
domestic would be Japan where it made
2:01:02
36.8 million dollars. Great. It
2:01:05
did really well in Japan. It also brought
2:01:07
in a bunch more money from a bunch
2:01:09
of other countries, but internationally if you want
2:01:12
to call it that, it brought in 47.9
2:01:14
million dollars. So this
2:01:16
technically did make 104.3 million dollars in the box
2:01:18
office, which
2:01:21
is a wonderful return on a 15 million
2:01:24
dollar, which is the high end
2:01:26
investment. Right. So yeah, it did
2:01:28
great and it did so well. I'm
2:01:30
sure we get a sequel. And if
2:01:32
that sequel is not called Godzilla minus
2:01:34
two, I'll be livid. I
2:01:37
doubt it. I'm sure it'll be OK. Well,
2:01:39
this makes me sad because Godzilla X-Con,
2:01:41
which is the American one, brought in
2:01:43
567.5 million. But
2:01:48
think about just make the hurt.
2:01:50
Of course, that's how that go. I
2:01:52
mean, think about the people who go to
2:01:54
movies every weekend and like I know the
2:01:56
American track. There is a lane for that.
2:01:59
There are people. Sure, there's nothing
2:02:01
wrong with it. And I like Fast
2:02:03
and Furious 2, so like I probably
2:02:05
would actually enjoy the madness of those
2:02:07
movies. But also please watch
2:02:09
this one. Exactly. Like, this
2:02:12
is, I think, a great
2:02:14
fucking film. I think
2:02:16
Godzilla vs. Kong is, I'm sure, a great movie. Probably
2:02:19
a fun movie. Yes. Yeah, exactly.
2:02:21
But you guys gotta see this
2:02:23
fucking film. Yeah, you gotta see Minus
2:02:25
1. It's so good. To me, they're almost,
2:02:27
and this is like an ideological discussion, so
2:02:30
forgive me for jumping into it, but I
2:02:32
think that they're honestly two different art forms
2:02:34
in a way. Yes, 100%. Movies
2:02:36
are like pure entertainment, and films
2:02:38
like this are like, how can
2:02:40
we emotionally convey a story? And
2:02:42
those, to me, are almost two
2:02:44
different asks in the same medium,
2:02:47
which is, you know, film. Yeah. Or movies,
2:02:49
or like moving pictures. Anyway, but I think
2:02:51
there's a lane for both clearly, and Godzilla
2:02:53
vs. Kong or whatever is gonna make a
2:02:55
shitload of money. I'm glad that people are
2:02:57
okay with having both. Yeah, they do. Does that
2:02:59
make sense? Because a lot of times, just like
2:03:01
the American one would take over because it makes
2:03:03
more money, I'm glad that we still have, essentially,
2:03:06
two sets of Godzilla tracks, Yes.
2:03:08
and a real mediocre TV show
2:03:10
that started out so good, but
2:03:13
then like really fell off, so,
2:03:15
you know. How dare you talk
2:03:17
about Game of Thrones like that. But Paige, that's
2:03:19
your box office. Do you want to
2:03:21
hit us with that scary scale? Sure, the
2:03:23
scary scale is a scale for how scary
2:03:25
we found the movie when we watched it
2:03:28
today. One being Ghost Bost-
2:03:30
Ghost Bosters! Ghost Bosters! Is that
2:03:32
the female version? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Girl
2:03:35
Bosters. One being
2:03:37
Ghostbusters, the other being Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
2:03:39
Todd. This is a one. I mean,
2:03:41
I did jump at that one point, but it's
2:03:43
not super scary. It's just like a quick little
2:03:45
jump moment. Yeah, this is a one for
2:03:48
me too. But on the like quality scale, it's
2:03:50
a 12. Yeah, it's
2:03:52
definitely up there. It is as high
2:03:54
as Godzilla's ankles would have to be
2:03:57
if he's not half duck. That's all
2:03:59
I'm saying. Right, exactly. Yeah, I feel you. It's
2:04:01
good. So Todd, do you have a review for us?
2:04:04
You know what, Paige? I did
2:04:06
bring one up. And you're welcome.
2:04:08
So this week I'm gonna read
2:04:10
JF DR I J D Y
2:04:12
J F. I don't know what
2:04:15
that means, but that's that. And it's really quick, it's
2:04:17
really short. The title of the review
2:04:19
is hilarious. Love them, 5 stars. That's
2:04:22
the full thing. And I love a good,
2:04:24
like, short, quality review. So thank you for
2:04:26
that. I'm also gonna read
2:04:28
our most recent Spotify comment that
2:04:31
was off the guest episode. It's
2:04:33
actually not the most recent. It
2:04:35
was the very first. And the
2:04:37
only reason I point that out
2:04:39
is because this comment came so
2:04:41
soon after we dropped the episode.
2:04:43
Pretty sure they couldn't have finished
2:04:45
it by the time they wrote
2:04:47
it. And this comment comes from
2:04:49
Aaron and they say, a perfect
2:04:51
episode for one of my favorite
2:04:53
movies. But since it was mentioned,
2:04:55
you have to do Abigail. Yes. Dan
2:04:58
Stevens is having the time of his life in
2:05:00
that one. Yes. I really
2:05:02
want to do Abigail. I
2:05:04
mean, I'm game for whatever. But I mean, I'm
2:05:06
sure we'll get to it at some point. But
2:05:08
Aaron, thank you so much for that Spotify comment.
2:05:10
And thank you so much for that 5 star
2:05:12
review. And if you want to have me read
2:05:14
your Spotify comment or 5 star review, please, please
2:05:16
do leave us a 5 star review and or
2:05:18
comment. We need to know once, guys. Let's do
2:05:20
this. Spotify, we always get Spotify comments every week.
2:05:22
We don't always get reviews every week, which makes
2:05:24
me sad. I'm like, where are my Apple people
2:05:26
at? Yeah, come on, Apple people. So this week,
2:05:28
Paige, you made us watch Minus One and like,
2:05:30
listen, thank you so much. You changed my life.
2:05:33
I should have listened to my buddy Lee once
2:05:35
you changed my life. I should have listened to
2:05:37
my buddy Lee. But what are
2:05:39
you making us watch next week? Hey, guys,
2:05:41
Future Todd breaking in here because Paige had
2:05:43
not yet decided what she was going to
2:05:45
make me watch next week. So she
2:05:48
just let me know that we will be
2:05:50
watching 20 24's
2:05:52
Sting, which apparently is a movie about
2:05:54
a spider and not the guy who
2:05:57
played bass in the police. But
2:05:59
that's your question. homework for next week guys check
2:06:01
out the movie Sting and then report back for
2:06:03
that episode. So guys if
2:06:05
you like this show but want to hear
2:06:07
Paige and I talk about romantic comedies or
2:06:09
just regular romantic movies check out our other
2:06:12
podcast some might call it a sister podcast
2:06:14
called Romancing the Pod where we do just
2:06:16
that weekly. It's a lot like this show
2:06:18
but for romance and romantic comedies because Paige
2:06:20
doesn't like them so we like make her
2:06:22
watch them just like you guys make me
2:06:25
watch horror over here. But if
2:06:27
you want to follow me I am at
2:06:29
Todd J. Awesome and all the social media
2:06:31
Paige is at Rampage Wesley on Instagram? Yes
2:06:34
and TikTok. And TikTok and just
2:06:36
Paige Wesley on Twitter because you got that
2:06:38
before some CEO lady and she wanted it
2:06:40
but she wouldn't give it back and I
2:06:42
respect you for that. Refuse. Also
2:06:45
Paige is. Junk it other Paige Wesley. Paige
2:06:47
is also on another podcast it's great you
2:06:49
check it out it's called Cult Podcast with
2:06:51
Armando Torres who is a wonderful person. And
2:06:53
if you want to support this show go
2:06:55
to patreon at patreon.com/horror virgin where there are
2:06:58
a lot of great levels and a lot
2:07:00
of great things. We do the patreon shout
2:07:02
outs at the beginning of every episode we
2:07:04
do listener requests stuff like that bonus episodes
2:07:06
so you'll be getting all of that content
2:07:08
plus episodes a day early with no ads
2:07:10
and who doesn't love that. So sign up
2:07:12
for the patreon and get a lot of
2:07:14
great stuff. Great that's gonna be it
2:07:16
for us you guys on Paige. And I'm your horror virgin Todd.
2:07:18
Keep it oogie spooky. Yeah
2:07:20
have an amazing week. Bye. Bye.
2:07:24
Godzilla is definitely part duck fight
2:07:26
me nerd.
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