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Like literally outside my window.

0:33

Oh literally literally

0:36

literally right outside your window.

0:38

And I want to be like, hey, there's

0:41

no idling here.

0:43

You should actually write that like any engine.

0:47

Would that be actually a really good neon sign

0:50

for outside of your SPoD?

0:53

And no riff raff, No one's

0:55

happening. You know, I'm

0:57

building I'm building a bar out

0:59

that door, So there's gonna be a lot of riff raff

1:02

because the official

1:04

local bar here burned down in

1:07

a very big fire a year

1:09

ago. So there's no like local

1:11

riff raff bar that I'm

1:13

gonna be in charge of it. And it's gonna be fine.

1:15

It's gonna be great, It's gonna be totally

1:18

fine. The last one burned down.

1:20

It was like one hundred years old because

1:24

a guy was upset that his ex girlfriend

1:26

was in there with another guy.

1:29

So he burned it down.

1:30

So this is the riff raff that I'm

1:33

speaking of.

1:34

Island riffraff is a different kind of riff raff.

1:37

But by the way, riffraff.

1:38

Is a great that just happened in the Orange

1:41

County barks corner shooting some

1:44

dude got I guess he went through

1:46

divorce as woman moved

1:48

to Orange County and he drove

1:50

out from Ohio.

1:54

Founder walked into the bar, walked right

1:56

up to a shop, and

1:59

then turned around and shot a

2:01

couple other people just for.

2:02

The hell of it,

2:05

measure, just to

2:08

spread followed her

2:10

all the way out from all Jesus.

2:13

People need to get fucking hobbies. Not

2:17

a very special day line

2:20

or that.

2:20

I just give up on women, but give up on

2:23

love me your men, whoever

2:25

is listening, Yeah, give women,

2:28

give.

2:28

Up on that noise. Learn

2:31

to love yourself and get a hobby.

2:33

Don't damn

2:38

day I learned,

2:41

learned.

2:41

To love myself and I adopted pickleball

2:44

as my first love. I haven't gone on a dat

2:46

in years, because look

2:48

at us.

2:49

What mean years?

2:50

You mean days?

2:51

You haven't gone on a dating days

2:56

exactly, I

2:59

haven't been on that's not true either. You're

3:01

both sucking liars, which maybe

3:04

let's start with stop lying

3:06

to yourself and other people.

3:09

Well, look, you've called me out on my lying face.

3:12

Yeah, I mean yeah, look

3:14

at you. Oh my god, you both told

3:16

me about your dates, and now you're like going

3:19

public with like I an't dated in years,

3:21

as if it's going to get you some brownie points.

3:23

You're like so lonely.

3:26

I will save him from his loneliness.

3:32

Someone can save me, need some help.

3:34

I'm ready, you're ready to be saved.

3:37

You to save yourself first, No, I didn't

3:40

anyone else. I'm

3:46

ready to draw from

3:51

I have

3:54

mercy.

3:54

Well you do have a new roommate, sir.

3:57

Yeah, he'll hold you.

4:01

Listen. There's nothing like genuine

4:03

embrace from your father, speaking

4:05

of which, Needy Leo in

4:07

this episode needs a hug.

4:12

I didn't want to go. I didn't want to start there, but we can.

4:14

But let's uh, that's okay, So we can

4:16

start with Phoebe wearing

4:19

pants as a skirt. Or we can start

4:21

with Needy Leo. Or

4:23

we can start with Paula Cole. Where did all the

4:25

cowboys go? Because why didn't we get that

4:27

song? But on a dating

4:29

front conversation? Where did all the cowboys

4:32

go? You guys want hugs,

4:36

Phoebe's wearing the pants as a skirt. She's

4:39

confused. And then we got Needy Leo, who's

4:41

jealous of sisters.

4:44

Yeah, that's so funny that those

4:46

are the bullet points you brought up initially.

4:48

Because that's just only this part

4:51

of my notes.

4:52

If you look at my notes, the first and what's

4:54

the top one, say, yeah.

4:57

Phoebe dress, Yeah, question, Phoebe

5:01

skirt, Phoebe pants skirt.

5:03

Leo Knox, Piper Ran

5:05

jealous. There's so much to unpack.

5:08

Paula Cole, what about the banger song?

5:10

That's what I wrote?

5:11

Yeah, what happened to know? She was? She

5:14

wanted the other one.

5:15

Of course, because they don't need to promote the like

5:17

the one that's already hitting.

5:18

Let's start with.

5:20

Because you know he it's

5:22

typical male

5:24

behavior of someone

5:27

who you

5:29

know, keep someone down, and it's

5:31

a it's kind of an abusive relationship, right,

5:33

I stock you and then I play the

5:35

victim. Right, So then I played

5:37

the victim and then oh, what's wrong?

5:40

Oh, nothing's wrong. It's just this and

5:42

there's always seems to be an excuse

5:44

for something, and it's oh,

5:46

it's okay, and it's poor Leo

5:49

all the time. You know, looking

5:51

back on this, I'm like, man, I really was playing

5:54

like this gentle.

5:55

Yeah, I mean the gas lighting was

5:57

real. The gas lighting was

6:00

real. That the why

6:02

aren't you paying attention to me? The narcissism

6:05

was real. Like, you know, I

6:08

just feel like I'm I mean, the

6:11

manipulation was on point.

6:18

It worked, fucking worked for a decade.

6:22

I just it really

6:25

is.

6:25

I mean, if you were to break it down, we had a psychologist

6:27

really breakdown Leo and

6:29

Piper.

6:30

I think they'd be like, Piper, you gotta get

6:33

out.

6:33

You're dealing with socio

6:37

classic narcissist who's

6:39

dead.

6:42

He's got you fooled.

6:43

You gotta go, got to go,

6:46

baby. It's

6:48

funny you say this because I

6:51

had a conversation with a

6:54

certain someone this morning, Danny, and

6:56

we were talking about the

6:58

Leo character in general. And it's tough

7:00

because you're Look, it's obviously

7:03

your handed pages on the day or

7:06

you get the script anywhere.

7:07

A week before, one to two weeks

7:09

before.

7:10

But there's nothing really Brian can

7:12

do in regards to the

7:14

way.

7:15

Yeah, he had to play it. He

7:17

had to play it, He had to play it real. I

7:19

mean he could have said, hey, does

7:22

this sound a little odd to you? But then the director,

7:25

you know, in an episodic

7:28

series doesn't have really any power

7:30

to change scripts or storylines anyway,

7:33

unless it's one of our in resident house

7:35

directors. So

7:38

yeah, you just kind of have to make the best of whatever

7:40

nonsensical storyline you're handed.

7:44

Yeah, hence Ella getting

7:46

remarried on Pretty Little

7:48

Liars?

7:50

What happened on Pretty Little Liers?

7:52

Married Chadler's character cheated

7:56

on me what yeah,

7:59

with out mercy and then they made me remarry

8:02

Leo.

8:04

I think Leo did early days

8:06

well, I mean like, look, we have both of

8:08

you had dalliances that we don't need

8:10

to touch upon anymore.

8:12

Okay, listen, we were on a break

8:15

when you have thank

8:18

fireman Greg for that.

8:20

I love Fireman Greg.

8:23

You haven't seen it, how dare you?

8:26

Greg Vaughan?

8:28

No, he was never a fireman.

8:30

To my knowledge, he was a baseball

8:32

player. Guys, welcome back to the House of Hallowell.

8:35

Today's episode is Apocalypse

8:37

Not written by Cheryl J. Anderson

8:40

and Sandford Golden, directed by

8:42

Michael Zimberg.

8:54

We really need to get Cheryl on here

8:57

to ask what the hell she was thinking

8:59

and what direction she was trying to go in. But

9:01

it's the apocalypse not so she's like, oh

9:03

hell zero fox.

9:04

Given when Preu was sucked into

9:07

a vortex with an apocalypse

9:09

horseman, apocalyptic horseman,

9:12

let's call that Phoebe and Piper are forced

9:14

to choose between saving their sister and

9:16

saving the world. Now let's get back to

9:18

this BK thing. Yes,

9:23

the Leo thing, because Leo is ah Well,

9:25

first of all, he comes, he starts the episode knocking,

9:27

so something already feels weird. Yeah

9:32

yeah, and then you're doing that whole kind of gas

9:34

lighting thing. You're hanging out, You're

9:37

hanging out with your sisters.

9:38

Again, pass aggressive?

9:40

Yeah, no, shit, like there's like peace

9:43

and harmony. Let's fuck with

9:45

it.

9:45

Don't forget me.

9:46

So are you are you feeling jealous?

9:48

Are you just feeling like you're not getting enough

9:50

attention? What do you think it is needs.

9:53

He has dead man angel needs.

9:55

It's interesting they wrote it this way

9:57

because I have I mean, I just

9:59

know, Oh there's the

10:02

women I've dated. I mean, Neediness is

10:04

not attractive in any relationship, whether

10:06

it's a friend and especially a love relationship.

10:09

It is just not It's

10:12

not the way to get what you want. But

10:14

apparently it is for Nope.

10:16

It's not like I had an next

10:19

boyfriend, bless him, that

10:22

got like physically ex

10:24

fiance. Yeah, that got like

10:27

physically very needy, like you know, it kissed

10:29

me like you used to. And I was like

10:32

like, no, that's just not that's

10:35

not the move.

10:36

My parents storm.

10:38

Yeah, neediness is never I don't

10:41

think that's a good quality. And again,

10:43

I think you're doing the best you possibly can with

10:45

the dialogue written. But it's tough because

10:47

it's like there's a little bit of peace

10:49

right now before this this episode starts,

10:52

and the sisters are getting along and they're bonding

10:54

and they're having good times, and I guess ultimately

10:57

it's maybe more hinting at the idea

10:59

of trying to find that perfect balance

11:02

between like friendships, family

11:04

and you know, lover.

11:07

Sure, and that happens you know when

11:09

people blend families, they get married,

11:11

and you don't know whose house to spend Christmas

11:13

at, and it gets all tug

11:15

of wary. You know, it's not fun,

11:18

which is why I'm grateful for a very small family.

11:20

As we discussed earlier, But

11:22

yeah, Leo is like, I

11:24

don't have to go to Leo's mother's

11:27

house for like Thanksgiving, so

11:29

he needs to like chill his jets, like

11:32

we're talking about lunch and then it's dinner

11:34

and then that's not enough. But that he was living

11:36

in the house in previous episodes,

11:39

So I don't really know what this person wants at

11:41

this point.

11:41

I mean, he wants you all of all

11:44

the things he wants you at all times.

11:47

Well, I think he has other charges because

11:49

he leaves all the time. Cheryl

11:53

Anderson was just throwing a ranch in things.

11:56

She was not happy with the way that Dan's

11:58

storyline was reconciled,

12:00

so she's like, so we're gonna make you look

12:03

like an asshole, bekay.

12:04

As we kind of discussed later with Jeff

12:07

Blake, are you did you remember,

12:10

like do you ever think our build on

12:12

the Leo bit of like,

12:14

hey, when I'm not here, I'm doing this, like, did

12:16

you ever have that kind of an idea of what you were off

12:18

doing?

12:19

No? I mean they I think it

12:21

was Conway maybe.

12:25

Shall not be name.

12:27

We can bleep that that actually bleep

12:30

bleepe put a bleep

12:32

in that just our

12:35

showrunners.

12:36

That sounds even worse. That

12:39

guy We're gonna call me that guy.

12:42

Just keep bleeping every time show

12:45

runner.

12:46

What the guy who said to me, well, Holly,

12:48

can't you fix it? No, it's

12:50

not my job to fix it. Well, why can't you just fix

12:52

it like you always do? I don't know because I'm

12:54

not in the writer's guild and it's not my freaking

12:57

job.

12:58

That guy because day

13:01

teeth.

13:04

Okay, continue, Brian.

13:06

They told me like, yeah, you go off to you

13:08

know, Angelville like a heaven,

13:11

and you're there, you know, talking

13:13

to the what became the elders,

13:15

And so every time you leave your going

13:18

there. There was no intimation that

13:20

I was going to another charge or

13:23

watching over anything.

13:25

It was like I just went to There

13:27

was no touch.

13:29

You had to go check in at the office and like

13:31

have board me.

13:34

I lived in the ether, touched by a white lighter

13:37

multiple times in your sleep?

13:40

Ye who knows

13:41

age?

13:43

Yeah, you were Oh my god, sorry,

13:49

I have.

13:49

A lot of questions.

13:52

Please fire them away.

13:53

Grooming I groomed Jesus

13:56

grooming the Lord.

13:57

We're cutting that out. You can't say that.

14:00

Okay, fine,

14:02

Leo was brilliant this episode.

14:05

Come on. I mean, this

14:09

is the first one where it's really like, Okay, this

14:11

is it's really it

14:14

struck me as a pattern that I've seen

14:16

other guys I know treat

14:19

women, and you know, I've had people in

14:21

my life and it's it is a bit disturbing,

14:23

you know, it's it's something that's always a turn off

14:25

to me. And so this is the first time I'm really kind

14:28

of turned off by my own character, like, you

14:30

know, the behavior, the trying to get Piper, the guilter

14:32

into the love and you know, just

14:35

all of it.

14:35

It's I found it a bit.

14:38

I don't know why I didn't catch it at

14:40

the time. Maybe I was just far

14:42

too in character that I was like believing

14:44

it. I was like, you're right, I should

14:46

be to places at once. I

14:48

should No,

14:51

there should be no fun being

14:53

had but with you, because you are

14:55

the love of my life. So therefore

14:58

time doesn't exist if you're not here.

15:02

But it's funny that there are people out there that

15:04

actually really believe that, and I believe that's

15:07

why the majority of relationships

15:09

if like, I think about this a lot, because

15:12

I think about relationships a lot

15:16

and my lack of them. Maybe

15:18

it's you, maybe it is me. But

15:21

this idea of, oh

15:24

shit, i've lost my dread.

15:26

Because maybe it's you. This idea

15:29

of if time doesn't exist or things

15:31

aren't important unless you're with your significant

15:33

other, nothing is significant again.

15:36

Oh well, okay, it's the

15:38

idea of, like, the best relationships,

15:40

the ones that ultimately I would want to emulate,

15:42

are the ones that are encouraging and supportive

15:44

of their partner, go

15:47

on to go and have their own

15:49

time, to have their own experiences, and

15:52

then go fill up their well individually

15:54

so then when they come back to

15:56

whatever it's your kids or just

15:59

artnership, you're feeling, You feel

16:01

full and you can be fully present as opposed

16:03

to kind of guilting someone for trying

16:05

to want to spend a month as much time with them as possible.

16:10

And runneth over. I

16:12

don't know about Pipers. Piper's

16:14

cup is looking at you.

16:15

That's the thing. It's like, your whole life is Piper's

16:18

whole life has kind of been turned up's eye

16:20

down in the last year and a half, and all of a sudden,

16:22

she's fighting demons,

16:25

and all of a sudden, we're kind of not talking about quake

16:27

anymore. It's P three. It's

16:29

a vault to that. But even P three kind of takes

16:31

a back seat. No, I have a manager now,

16:35

right exactly, and it's you're

16:38

kind of hunting demons full time and

16:40

now you're in this like significant relationship

16:42

relationship who's dead,

16:45

Like there's a lot of change that's

16:47

happened, and.

16:48

So needs are alive.

16:50

That's true.

16:53

DK. Did you see our stunt

16:55

coordinator, Extraordinary Noon throwing

16:58

watermelons at my car?

17:00

I mean I like

17:02

it because he was the last episode and

17:05

then in this episode he

17:07

just put that little blue turban on and

17:09

it's like, oh, yeah, we don't recognize

17:11

the same.

17:12

Styah, and he's in it twice

17:14

being Mayhem. I

17:17

didn't recognize your name is Mayhem? Yeah,

17:19

well because he put like, you know right,

17:23

yeah, so first he was throwing

17:27

and if anybody doesn't know, Noon

17:29

has worked with me since I was eighteen

17:31

years old, so yeah, and

17:34

yeah, so he's throwing watermelons at my car,

17:36

He's tried to drown me, set me on fire. He's done

17:38

all the things. And

17:41

then in like another scene in this episode,

17:43

he's like smashing a windshield at the cop

17:45

car. I was like, wow, like

17:47

I want his job getting.

17:49

In a lot of days.

17:50

Do you guys think that we're

17:52

going to with this just this episode?

17:55

That's true, you're absolutely right,

17:58

but he plays a little bit

18:00

into this, this idea

18:02

of he's being a little needy

18:05

and you're kind of a little little Okay,

18:08

I'm a lot needy, but so

18:10

he's being needy.

18:13

But it ultimately because you're kind of turned

18:15

off a little bit by it when he actually

18:17

has bit okay,

18:19

a lot. Jesus, can

18:24

I get this point across?

18:25

This is what is your question?

18:28

Is it ultimately a story kind

18:31

of like play? Because

18:33

when he actually has legitimate

18:35

concerns and or let's

18:38

say, advice for you guys, and it's the

18:40

right advice, you're so turned

18:42

off by his behavior is not.

18:44

The right advice. It's

18:46

a controlling argument

18:49

where he has to be right and control

18:51

the things, and he's telling the women what to do.

18:53

I mean, he's all sorts of wrong in this

18:56

episode, he is everything

18:58

but an angel, literally

19:00

everything. But but then he

19:02

like masquerades as the butler again,

19:04

bringing a tray of tea

19:07

manipulation. Yeah, the

19:09

manipulation.

19:12

Some space down now, let me get I ended

19:14

by saying, I'm gonna give you some.

19:15

Right, he's definitely fucking

19:18

roofed the tea.

19:20

Wait what it? Wait a second. I know, in

19:23

all fairness, I haven't watched this episode

19:25

in a few weeks, so my memory

19:27

might be a little fuzzy. But didn't

19:30

like he had some advice in regards

19:32

for you guys to like slow your role just a little

19:34

bit before you jump into certain

19:36

things, like wasn't he against.

19:39

I said, you don't know what it is. You can't go do

19:41

something.

19:41

You're gonna this is gonna be bad,

19:44

and then went and did it anyway, And

19:46

then.

19:46

He throw, Okay,

19:48

I guess it's three against what whow and

19:51

we called the wambulance.

19:56

Uh, this is a tough

19:58

place for you, my guy. You're just gonna

20:00

take el's all the time because it probably

20:02

you always will be three against one always,

20:05

and it's it's well, you told us we're

20:07

the Gentlemans, We're the protectors of the innocence.

20:10

You gave us a job and then you're like, you're not doing

20:12

it good enough. You know why

20:14

because you need LEO all the time.

20:17

Well, doesn't every Michael Jordan and Scottie

20:20

Pippen, Nita, Phil Jackson.

20:23

H Yeah, is

20:26

that who he is?

20:28

Yeah? If you're Michael,

20:30

Scottie and and like Rodman,

20:34

you gotta have a Phila.

20:35

Who is Rodman in this equation?

20:37

Shannon's Roman? Poor,

20:39

sir?

20:40

No, Actually, she's

20:42

gonna be upset.

20:43

She's gonna Shannon's Jordan. Shannon's

20:45

Jordan. You're Dennis Rodman for

20:47

sure?

20:49

Am I?

20:56

All right?

20:56

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Yeah, the enforceder like the bad

22:34

boy. That's yeah, you're.

22:36

Rod Okay, fine, I

22:38

think you Phoebe no

22:41

w, thank you? Yeah,

22:46

you're tired, can't

22:49

be absolutely and

22:51

she would marry Carmen Electra in Vegas.

22:54

Okay, come on, so Phoebe's

22:56

Rodman, you're Pippin.

22:59

Actually Shan and I both got married

23:01

in Vegas. Let

23:06

me think about it.

23:07

But to this analogy. You

23:10

need to Phil Jackson because you can't have all

23:13

these parts unless there's there's

23:15

this is Darryl

23:18

duh, Darryl.

23:23

Yeah, I can't change my

23:26

mind.

23:26

I thought you were the Phil Jackson. You're the manager of

23:28

this squad. You kind of give your advice,

23:30

but ultimately Jordan Pippen and Rodber you're

23:32

going to do what they.

23:33

Want to do the squad. Heyo,

23:36

you were.

23:37

Dating the squad and then

23:39

gas lighting the squad.

23:40

Mm hmm.

23:41

I just think that your your voice would

23:43

have been probably heard more if you

23:45

hadn't been needy at the top of the episode. Is

23:47

really just kind of what I'm trying to get at.

23:49

It doesn't get any less. I think we get

23:51

a couple of seasons of me being pretty.

23:53

Warn No, not as bad as this episode

23:55

takes the cake, I'm hoping.

23:58

So kind of moving on to bigger

24:01

themes, like this was kind of a chaos mad

24:03

house crazy episode, like the like

24:05

multiple riots and stuff. What was that like? It

24:08

looks like madness.

24:10

Well, what I can tell you is rewatching

24:14

this, I can say it was super

24:16

creepy to realize

24:19

how timely this episode is,

24:21

like right now with the famines

24:23

and the you know, the epidemics

24:26

and the

24:28

wars that we never thought would break

24:30

out that are breaking out. And it's

24:33

a little creepy to like watch this and then think

24:35

that, you know, the

24:37

conspiracy theories say today that

24:40

it was all corporate manipulation and

24:43

this episode is saying that in

24:46

a different fantastical way. But

24:50

you know, with pandemics and you

24:52

know, economy is crashing and nobody trusts

24:54

the banks. It's like, it's this

24:56

episode is kind of right now.

24:59

It's wild how the foreshadowing, Like,

25:01

are the parallels, let's say, are similar

25:03

for something that happened twenty three, twenty

25:05

four years ago and what's happening today. I couldn't

25:08

agree more.

25:09

Yeah, like our weather is nutty, there's

25:11

violent storms everywhere.

25:14

You know, violence breaking out riots.

25:16

Yeah, it was a little like it

25:18

gave me pause for a moment where I

25:21

was like.

25:22

And it's also interesting that they were able to

25:24

kind of depict the four horsemen of the

25:26

apocalypse like in a corporate kind

25:28

of setting. Like, I think that's just a really

25:31

interesting parallel to how

25:33

things are being portrayed today.

25:36

What famine, strife, war

25:39

and death?

25:40

Correct? Correct?

25:44

I really think the yellow tie didn't need to be yellow

25:47

though.

25:48

What was that famine yellow

25:51

representing wheat crops?

25:53

Okay, there we go.

25:56

Some night.

25:58

Said I'm just just trying, all

26:00

right, just try and just workshopping

26:02

things, so the

26:06

like, obviously the main priority for you guys,

26:08

like as Prue gets sucked into this vortex,

26:11

the main priority for you is to save your

26:13

sister. Now, I don't think it's not lost on me

26:15

that the beginning of the episode talk about foreshadowing

26:17

Phoebe purchases a book, and in the

26:20

book, like when you pull up random questions

26:22

and like would you rather save one

26:24

or many? And that ultimately is

26:26

like the Sophie's choice that you guys are

26:29

dealt. That's the hand you're dealt in this

26:31

episode, and you start

26:34

with one and then ultimately you

26:36

all three change your mind to the other. And I think

26:38

that's I

26:40

would flip flop. I would oscillate on that all

26:42

the time, Like do you save the

26:44

person you love most for

26:46

because that's the person you love most? Or do

26:49

you save the many because that's ultimately

26:51

the greater good?

26:52

You save the many because the many

26:54

will include your person.

26:57

I like that, thanks your

27:00

cake and eating it too, Sure, but

27:02

you're.

27:03

Save yourself right

27:06

every time.

27:06

Yeah, there's the Leo,

27:09

there's the there's the Leo argument. There

27:14

was apparently in Jeffrey Blake

27:17

did both of them.

27:19

He did.

27:20

We'll be talking to them in a little bit very exciting

27:22

interview. Besides kind of obviously

27:25

like the parallels we just talked about, like do you remember

27:27

anything specifically about this, Like when shooting

27:29

was it kind of fun? Chaos like those that

27:31

day on the street with all the riots and stuff.

27:34

Was like our

27:37

stunt crew and entire crew

27:39

was having way too much fun because like this

27:42

location, like BK you

27:44

remember, was just literally the streets

27:46

outside our stage. As you can see,

27:48

our stage was in a lovely

27:51

neighborhood of warehouses

27:53

and not lovely

27:55

things. So yeah,

27:58

it was very industrial, kind

28:01

of mid San Fernando Valley.

28:05

I think there was one Mexican restaurant

28:07

and a liquor store. Fun

28:11

story insider

28:13

tip. Our stages were I

28:16

think they became like apartments

28:18

and like part of it became like a bed in the bath

28:21

bet in bath and beyond what bed bath

28:23

and beyond parking.

28:25

Bet in the bath in the bath?

28:27

Didn't they go bankrupt? Ha ha, Just kidding

28:29

and you know.

28:29

What you can by the way, you know it converted those into

28:32

now across America take

28:34

one guesses. Nope,

28:38

Paul, you got this, Like, let me give this to you. I'm

28:40

sending this to you via the

28:42

Internet.

28:43

Not Starbucks, Halloween

28:46

store, a bank.

28:48

They're turning all bed bathroom beyond to pickleball

28:51

courts, indoors.

28:52

Shut up, Google, that ship,

28:55

shut up.

28:56

True story.

28:57

You are like an evil maniacal

28:59

for it's.

29:02

Not my fault. I didn't tell him to do this. It's

29:04

a good idea, though ridiculous. Yeah,

29:07

is this bigger evil than the source? Essentially?

29:10

No, they're minions of the source.

29:13

They're minions of the source. But basically right,

29:15

these four kind of I remember there

29:17

was this line where they go, you know, the

29:20

horsemen are so powerful. They made a phone call Evil

29:22

called good and Good answered like some

29:26

is it their boss? Like where are we putting these

29:28

guys on? Like a on an echelon?

29:30

Are they They're up? They're upper echelon?

29:32

Correct in regards like do we see them ever

29:35

again?

29:35

One of them? But he becomes

29:37

a different character, which I'm not sure

29:40

if that was just sloppy casting or they

29:42

thought that nobody would remember

29:45

or they you know.

29:45

The producers like they become something

29:48

different, right.

29:49

Brian becomes one of the in

29:51

my not so favorite episodes,

29:53

the Goddess episode because

29:55

again I was I was crying about

29:58

Leo wet and the rain. I

30:00

get weird. He probably

30:02

wanted more quality time. But no, actually

30:05

you didn't. He was. He was leaving,

30:07

so he does he just you

30:10

know.

30:10

What, through the to make you had

30:12

to make way for a new, white letter old

30:16

and with the new, I.

30:19

Think these guys went on and started that company

30:22

Lula Mom.

30:24

Isn't that the same? Isn't

30:26

that the same?

30:32

Like you

30:35

can tell how much, you know what, if

30:38

it was called Lulu Laan, it would

30:40

justify the prices a little bit more.

30:43

Now we lost him as a sponsor, too awesome.

30:47

Don't let me talk about any brands.

30:50

Sorry, guys the

30:52

same emblem, that's

30:56

true.

30:57

It's just yeah, the other way,

31:00

the other way. So we're not getting yoga

31:02

pants from them, thank you very much.

31:04

Sorry.

31:07

So I found it interesting. Was Phoebe flirting

31:09

with strife a little bit? Was there a little bit?

31:11

Good?

31:11

Does she not flirt with I just

31:13

want to know, is like if someone's

31:16

bad, is that like just like Phoebe, that's

31:19

all she She just loves a bad boy.

31:22

She has a bad boy magnet.

31:23

Guys who wear leather jackets and ride motorcycles

31:26

and have green ties and

31:28

silky green ties. You guys are

31:31

ultimately forced to work with people that you would

31:33

never work with because it's

31:35

the matter of saving

31:38

Prue is of utmost importance, and you're

31:40

forced. Like in life, sometimes

31:43

you're forced to work with people or do

31:45

situations that you have zero interest

31:47

in actually doing, but it's for the greater

31:49

good.

31:51

The weird sandal scene, because that's

31:54

all I see in that scene where like the

31:56

shot starts from above and all

31:58

I see is Phoebe and I for

32:01

like five minutes it starts and it does

32:03

this, and I like the shot. I like the theory

32:05

of the shot. I liked how it was done at

32:07

circles and then it comes down and then it comes down to

32:09

our faces because clearly we had the

32:11

grain to play with that day. Grain

32:15

appreciate it, but I just would have appreciated better

32:17

footwear or contrasting footwear.

32:21

You have sweater sets you should be focused on before

32:23

you work.

32:23

Oh oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, speaking

32:26

of sweaters, So I think our sister

32:28

is dead, and Baby puts on

32:31

her favorite light pink color

32:34

sweater to be in mourning.

32:36

It's your comfort sweater.

32:38

And then like baby puts on like a turquoise

32:40

tank top bejeweled

32:44

because we're in mourning.

32:46

Right you are?

32:47

Are you possibly dead? Sister?

32:49

But what is dead never dies? As they say

32:52

in Game of.

32:52

Thrones, nobody ever really dies un charmed.

32:55

That's true.

32:56

Well, but still I don't think pink and turquoise

33:00

was the move catching it is

33:03

and most people watch with the sound off and a jim

33:05

so they don't care. They don't know she might be dead.

33:08

That's true well, and if they're

33:10

watching today. So my question for

33:12

you both is if the sister's main priority

33:15

starts with rescuing Prue and preventing

33:17

the approp Wow.

33:20

Why don't you try that again?

33:22

If this if

33:24

Lululemon lamon, Lulu laman

33:28

the sister, If the sister's main priority

33:30

starts with rescuing Prue

33:33

and preventing the apocalypse,

33:35

and then Phoebe has this realization that

33:37

they need to prioritize the world over

33:39

prou What was that?

33:42

Where did that realization come from? I thought that was kind

33:44

of like a jump

33:47

a little bit. You did we catch that scene?

33:49

You just got nick Bosa Interesting?

33:55

Interesting, Joey's

33:57

happening like the forty He's.

34:00

Gonna win the super Bowl's interesting.

34:02

Calm down, he's the older

34:04

one.

34:05

Yeah.

34:06

On top of, by the way, the fact that the sisters

34:08

are now constantly challenging Leo's

34:11

advice and they're showing.

34:12

A little bit of overconfidence, just

34:14

a little.

34:16

The main problem I have with this episode is

34:18

the spirit globe chase scene.

34:21

I mean, aside from the Sandals, the weird sandals,

34:23

the spirit globe globs hmm,

34:27

blobs.

34:28

Like the glowing worry worm like thingies.

34:32

Like blobs blobs.

34:34

Yeah.

34:36

Have you ever seen that movie The Blob? You're

34:38

too young, not even

34:40

the reboot. Don't say the

34:43

R word. Yeah, the spirit

34:45

glob blob chase like through the attic.

34:48

Really maybe want to turn

34:50

off the TV again?

34:52

No, it was. I mean, look, it's

34:55

you gonna remember the time. It's two thousand. It's a

34:57

TV series. You guys are in between

34:59

prepping, you

35:01

know, the finale three episodes. Yeah,

35:04

Shannon's getting ready to direct her first episode,

35:08

which is why she's.

35:08

In the Blob.

35:09

I was about to say that probably helped. Like

35:12

the way they wrote this episode, it

35:14

was like it's mostly focused on you

35:16

know, Leo infiltrating and then you

35:19

two trying to figure out what

35:22

exactly is going on, Right,

35:25

I just.

35:26

Think there's a way to act that. There's

35:28

a way to do it with camera moves. There's a way

35:30

to do it with wind. There's

35:33

which was in the wind, like before

35:35

the blob showed up. I was all into that

35:37

scene clearly. I mean I was in it. But

35:41

yeah, had they told me it was going to be

35:43

a white and red blob,

35:46

I would have been like, nah, dude, Yes

35:49

we had some extra money in the special effects

35:51

budget for this episode because I would

35:53

have been like, I can act that. Watch me, watch

35:56

me, watch me.

35:58

But yeah, no, those are some things

36:00

that we didn't love. Is there anything that we

36:02

liked about this episode?

36:04

Sure? I love that the you know, there

36:06

was this well I don't want to perpetuate you

36:08

know, conspiracy theories whatsoever,

36:12

but you know, corporate discord

36:14

being purposeful to just

36:17

create chaos obviously

36:20

can be a real thing. I

36:24

did not like violent Leo being

36:26

a double agent, Like first

36:28

he's needy, then he's violent, Like he's

36:30

all sorts of out of sorts. At

36:33

this point, it was like violent, he's

36:35

kicking people's ass, and then he's like and then he

36:37

puts in a suit. He's a double agent. I mean

36:39

he was Leo was. This was episode

36:42

was all Leo being like four

36:44

different people.

36:46

I think they're still trying to figure out Leo's

36:49

place and dynamic with everything

36:51

because it's not as clear and cut and dry as like

36:54

a next door neighbor and just like a simple like

36:56

a civilian love interest, Like you're

36:58

involved. You're completely in on the secret,

37:00

and it's trying to figure out how much

37:03

or how little you can actually be

37:06

a part of this without

37:09

affecting the overall out come too much

37:11

and kind of letting the sisters come to it on their own.

37:13

Yeah, you know, I always took it.

37:16

For those of you out there, you may have never

37:18

seen the show called Charlie's Angels, and

37:21

there was a.

37:21

Character on them called Bosley.

37:24

Bosley was the guy who ran

37:27

the Angels, and he would get all

37:29

the information from a guy at a microphone

37:31

who you never met or you saw the back of his head,

37:33

but Bosley was yeah,

37:36

Charlie, that's right. Bosley would tell

37:39

the girls what they needed to do. He wasn't

37:41

really involved with them, and so I think another

37:44

spelling show. I am

37:46

Bozzily, I'm

37:50

Bosley, I go, I tell the girls

37:52

what to do. They can be nice

37:55

or mean to me or whatever. The only difference

37:58

in Bosley and the Charlie's Angels is

38:00

I'm emotionally involved with one

38:03

of them where Bosley

38:05

never was. So I think they're

38:07

trying to create the same character and

38:10

spelling, you know, kind of Dunity again was

38:12

more professional, much

38:16

more profession but

38:18

he was fun, he was lighthearted, he

38:21

was he was emotionally involved,

38:23

but he wasn't personally

38:25

emotionally involved right with just

38:28

one. It was about the girls

38:30

and about the greater good, and I think

38:32

they're still trying to pull that in.

38:35

He becomes end of the World Leo and doom

38:37

and gloom Leo when he's like, you can't do

38:39

this because the world will end.

38:42

But just for the sake of this,

38:44

for the sake of this conversation, I actually

38:47

don't mind, and the sake of, like, you

38:49

know, good storytelling comes from

38:51

like some friction. I didn't

38:53

mind that Leo pushed back a little bit and

38:55

was fighting for what he believed was right. Whether

38:58

ultimately you guys listened to him or not, I still think

39:00

him kind of trying to establish or assert himself.

39:03

Okay, listen, I already told

39:05

you he's not the daddy. Stop

39:07

it, Jesus.

39:09

Technically, you

39:14

know who fights an.

39:15

Evil the fireman. Okay, he

39:18

runs in when everybody else runs away.

39:20

Okay, all right, it's a great

39:22

job. That's off to all firemen and

39:24

women. What color are your eyes

39:28

mine or green?

39:29

Right?

39:29

M What does that mean?

39:33

Hy you'll see?

39:35

Oh boy, do I need to go with more

39:37

therapy? Do I need to book something?

39:39

Now?

39:39

I think you should?

39:40

Okay, you did? This

39:43

episode? Did give us this a great line of Phoebe

39:45

we killed Prue's

39:50

By the way, when you're reading that, like,

39:53

how do you deliver something like that without

39:55

bursting out laughing?

39:57

That whole scene. I was trying not to laugh

39:59

because it is just like, okay,

40:01

so people say ridiculous things

40:04

when they're in a moment of shock.

40:07

For sure, it's just headless like

40:09

the college student.

40:11

Yeah, it's just really hard not

40:13

to sit. It's

40:16

really hard not to say, you know, weird

40:19

things when you're but it's really hard to

40:21

deliver them in a way that's

40:23

not supposed to be funny, but maybe it

40:26

is. Like you know,

40:28

in that scene where she said

40:30

it said four h O, I

40:33

was like, I don't know how I didn't say four hose,

40:35

Like, what do you mean for hose?

40:38

I would have said that hyper and later

40:40

date would have said.

40:41

That, Yeah, that's funny.

40:44

That's what happens when you get negotiations

40:46

in the sunroom. Who does negotiations

40:49

in the sunroom?

40:52

Sounds nice though, but I wouldn't give to give

40:54

it a negotiation in the sun room right now?

40:56

Yeah?

40:57

Right, yeah, but yeah, it's

40:59

a You delivered that line and something that I found

41:02

was very funny, but obviously

41:04

in the moment it's not funny. Like overall

41:06

story, it's not funny, but reading them

41:09

like I would not know how to deliver that line in that

41:11

moment without laugh.

41:14

I think that was the overhead shot too. So

41:17

that's what I'm saying, like, we just needed to throw

41:19

away a lot of that dialogue and go, yeah,

41:23

right.

41:24

Well before we bring in our special guest

41:27

Dajore one Jeffrey Blake, who

41:29

if you guys don't know who this is, you were demon

41:32

Dajore. That's true. You should give

41:34

him a quick IMDb google. This

41:36

man has been in everything

41:39

everything, literally everything from

41:41

Matt Locke to Contact, to Forrest

41:45

Gump to Charmed

41:48

Ours and another

41:50

version of Charms. He's

41:52

an incredible, incredible talent

41:55

who now he

41:57

teaches, he's still he

42:00

rights with his wife. It's a it's a it's a great

42:02

interview. We're really excited to have him on. Uh,

42:04

why don't we just give this episode a little

42:06

ranking rating?

42:08

Oh gosh, I'm so conflicted

42:11

on this one.

42:12

I'm with you on that there's so many

42:15

great elements and things that are

42:17

happening, yet I don't know if it

42:19

fully delivered all the way across.

42:22

It's fun, action packed, you

42:26

know.

42:26

We introduced this whole idea of you

42:28

know, the source and things and people working

42:30

for them and there's this greater power.

42:32

But I

42:35

wasn't enthralled.

42:38

Performance.

42:39

No, I wasn't.

42:40

I really didn't like me on this and I actually just

42:42

like, how did they not get rid of me? Like,

42:48

honestly, I'm sitting there going, man, good

42:50

thing, I'm cute.

42:52

Jesus, tips A

42:54

good thing. Your tips are frosted.

42:56

Tips must have a

42:59

lot of fan Thanks mom, Mom.

43:02

This was hard to watch myself for sure.

43:04

Well, you literally, Leo ran the gamut

43:06

of like who of personalities

43:09

during this episode, so you had a lot to

43:11

play. You were very busy. Yeah,

43:13

but it's tough. But like I said, you know, it

43:16

helps having good bad guys. We had good

43:18

bad guys. And you know, like I thought

43:20

Chris, who played Billy was in everything

43:23

in the world, Jeffrey has

43:25

actually been in everything in the world, and

43:27

he's just a consummate professional and

43:29

he was super into having fun and playing

43:31

and that makes it enjoyable. So I'm

43:34

remembering that it was enjoyable to do

43:36

this, but watching it, I'm like, huh,

43:40

I don't know.

43:42

Well, let me start then I'll start with the rating.

43:44

I think, like we've had some real

43:47

incredible episodes this season. This

43:49

is the penultimate episode before we hit the finale,

43:52

okay, and I think the last few

43:54

haven't landed. There's been

43:57

such strong, incredible

43:59

episode. I

44:03

loved astral Monkey, I loved

44:05

obviously Outfire, I love There's

44:07

just chick Flick And

44:12

I think for whatever reason

44:14

these an Awakening

44:17

is amazing. That's one of my favorites. That's a great

44:19

episode or is it

44:21

Awakening or awakened? Awakening

44:25

Once a movie wants a TV that's

44:28

a great movie too. De Niro and Robin

44:31

Williams. Uh, But

44:34

I'm kind of with you guys

44:36

in regards to like, yeah, I

44:39

don't know, it just didn't considering

44:41

the Four Porsemen of the Apocalypse is like

44:44

it's biblical and its proportions

44:46

and epics. It's

44:48

it didn't land the way I wanted

44:50

it to. So I'm like, it's fine.

44:53

I never really felt like Prue

44:55

was in danger ultimately. I feel

44:57

like you guys, blob, I

45:00

feel like you guys were gonna savor and like it

45:02

was just it just

45:04

didn't feel like the stakes as much

45:06

as you guys were playing at certain things. It didn't

45:08

feel like it ultimately, Like I wasn't ever really

45:11

concerned in a way.

45:12

It can't always be life or death every

45:15

episode or I know, but they killed

45:17

Prue.

45:18

He killed Prue. I

45:22

almost had it and then I broke. So

45:24

I'm gonna just like it's fine. It's

45:27

not my favorite, it's not my least favorite. I think

45:29

it's just kind of like mid. I'm gonna just

45:31

give it a mid rating, like a six

45:34

seven something like that. That's mid. It's just

45:36

mid for me and

45:38

it's not taking away from everyone doing it, Like I

45:40

never ever think anyone's doing a bad job.

45:42

I'm just talking about overall story where we are

45:45

with your guys, evolution as the charmed

45:47

ones. BK kind of trying to establish

45:49

himself as like a you know, his

45:51

new dynamic and his role in this whole

45:54

thing. I'm like, eh, because just kind

45:56

of finding footing a little bit still.

45:59

So mid me, I'm going to go.

46:01

Off of the numbering, you

46:03

know, one through ten, and I'm I'm going to go

46:05

to the old you know, school system abcd

46:08

EF and I'd have to

46:10

say it's it's a C plus B minus you

46:13

know somewhere in there.

46:14

Let's let's go back and make it scholarly.

46:18

Know now that I know how to pronounce he a lu

46:20

lu lamon.

46:22

Lamon, and that's like fifteen percent more

46:24

expensive. I

46:28

don't know, Okay, I'll

46:31

just give it a C, which would be like, I don't know,

46:34

six point five seven, that's.

46:35

Whatever, Twinny,

46:40

That's okay. But like there's

46:43

some fun takeaways, there's also some positives

46:45

and getting to you know, let's bring in Jeff

46:47

because he he's a real

46:49

joy and like his performance.

46:52

I think like we we constantly say, like

46:55

when we have good bad guys, it really does

46:57

help ground and make the show. It

47:00

like brings out the best version of the

47:02

show.

47:03

And here's joy will say. I do like

47:05

the way that it ended, and Leo admitted that

47:07

he was wrong and that like people do family

47:10

time and their friends and you know, time

47:12

apart where are like, I'm

47:14

not going to have an affair with my sisters. I think

47:16

everything's okay. Yeah,

47:19

So the ending was nice.

47:21

Yeah, yeah, And

47:23

that was a nice white.

47:24

Jacket, was candy, man.

47:26

I really was kept that one.

47:30

That was a new one.

47:30

That was a fresh one. I don't think I ever wore that one.

47:34

Because it fit you properly. All

47:37

right, guys, well let's bring in jeff shall we shall

47:41

shall we? Okay? All right and

47:45

see but

47:48

yeah, I was just telling Jeffrey and b K

47:51

that I had a I was

47:53

on like a mini like

47:55

a day hand with a friend

47:59

and the taco in East LA, Like

48:01

we hit up Jonathan Gold's like five favorite

48:03

taco places. H incredible

48:07

as.

48:07

They should be, though, but they're.

48:09

Like street taco, Like

48:11

they cost like two bucks too. It was amazing.

48:14

Hey, we have taco Tuesdays. They're three dollars,

48:17

but those are island prices prices.

48:21

It's hard to get here.

48:23

The island prices is a real thing.

48:25

Where are you allie?

48:27

I am on.

48:28

I moved to an island off of Seattle two

48:31

years ago, so.

48:32

Out in the Puget and they're out in that area. I

48:36

have a student that lives at I can't remember which

48:38

island she lives.

48:39

On, but there's quite a few. There's

48:41

quite a few different ones.

48:42

Yeah, yeah, it's quite beautiful.

48:44

It is.

48:45

It's lovely, but it's hard to get carne

48:47

asada here, so I'm sure.

48:52

I did a mini series for ten months in Durango,

48:54

Mexico, which is literally

48:56

the home down of El Chapo. So

49:00

we were there for ten months and boy,

49:02

the street tacos there were. There's no

49:05

way eastill I believe and beat those.

49:06

No. Wow, incredible.

49:09

I kind of want tacos right now. I

49:11

think you, Georgia,

49:14

you can never have enough tacos. Like that's actually

49:17

a statement.

49:18

It's a true thing. I mean, we make breakfast

49:21

tacos too, so it could really just be an old

49:23

day thing.

49:23

If it really is, it's

49:26

a perfect food.

49:28

I agree.

49:29

So you said a student of yours. Does that mean

49:31

you're a teacher?

49:32

I do.

49:33

I'm not not.

49:34

I'm an actor who teacher is not an acting teacher.

49:36

There's a difference, there

49:39

is.

49:40

And no, I just I was you

49:42

know, just I knew there were a lot of actors all over

49:44

the world and all over the US and everything

49:47

that had nothing to do during the pandemic. So I just

49:49

taught acting once and then

49:51

I was doing five nights a week. Now I just burnt

49:54

out. So I do it one night a week on Thursdays for

49:56

the actors.

49:57

I like, is

50:01

it like a seen study class?

50:02

Like can you let's see study, monologue, exercise?

50:06

And I'm I'm a member of the Actors Studio,

50:08

So it's basically the actors Studio.

50:10

You know.

50:10

Peggy Fury was my mentor back

50:12

in the day, so and Larry Moss

50:14

a little bit.

50:15

Yeah, I worked with Larry Kake.

50:17

Larry take Peggy, take Lee take Stella.

50:20

You got me? That's incredible? Do

50:23

you is it?

50:23

Is?

50:24

It? Is this something over?

50:26

Zoom?

50:26

Do you do it in person? Zoom?

50:28

The night?

50:29

The eighteen people in class right

50:31

now, which I like, uh, I

50:34

think only three of them are from l A. A

50:36

lot of a lot of them are from New York.

50:38

One from Australia. Yeah, from

50:40

all over, but mostly New York based.

50:43

Incredible.

50:45

Have you checked out the Ethan

50:47

Hawkes love.

50:49

Yes, that's quiet that

50:52

has required viewing by my class.

50:54

Now, yeah, it's fantastic. BK.

50:56

Have you seen that? So he directed like

50:59

a five or six part docuseries based

51:01

on the life of Paul Newman

51:03

and Joeyne Woodward and it kind of delves into

51:05

that whole time in New York, like

51:08

Brando Dean herself

51:10

and like these these legends and

51:12

how they were kind of all they were

51:14

all in the actors studio, and it kind of really if

51:17

anyone is out there who's kind of thinking

51:19

about acting or wavering about their choice

51:21

of becoming an actor or an artist, like watch

51:24

this, like it, it's amazing, It's

51:26

special. It is a special, special

51:28

thing.

51:29

Ethan was sent Paul's memoir

51:31

that was never published that

51:34

he kept not letting anybody publish.

51:36

And basically he formed this documentary

51:38

using footage archive footage, but then when he'd

51:40

read from the documentary from the memoirs,

51:43

he actually had like you know, like Clooney

51:46

was voicing.

51:46

Paul Newman and.

51:49

I can't remember who was playing jo Edwood I think,

51:54

ah, well, I.

51:55

Don't know, you know, let's see it was it was wonderful

51:58

actress just got ripped

52:01

off from getting a Tony nomination.

52:02

She was an Ozark, Laura.

52:05

Lenny, Laura Lennie. Yeah, did Joe

52:07

N.

52:08

Woodward?

52:08

And I mean it's a who's who everybody

52:11

else is? Like, I think, you know, it's

52:13

pretty great.

52:15

So what it's required

52:17

if you're into that era and you're into

52:19

the basis of modern American acting and where

52:21

it came from.

52:22

This documentary pretty.

52:23

Much captures it.

52:25

So pretty special. Yeah,

52:27

it's real Last movie stars HBO, I believe

52:31

or Max.

52:33

I'm right.

52:36

So it's so good. But

52:39

you also realize, like I

52:41

don't know if this is my takeaway

52:44

from at least the first episode, I

52:47

was thinking about this like Paul

52:50

Newman's career in part

52:54

kind of he rose to the way he did.

52:56

I mean, obviously he became who he became

52:58

later on, but early on the the

53:01

opportunity he got was came

53:04

at somebody up there likes me and that

53:06

was originally going to be played by James Dean And.

53:08

Yeah, I know he was in the shadow of James Dean in the

53:10

shadow of Marlon Brando, and that's very forever

53:13

in the yeah, forever, very clear

53:15

in the documentary. So

53:17

much so that when he finally nominated

53:19

for like what eight oscars, never won, and

53:22

then finally when he did win, decided

53:24

not to show up. You

53:27

know, he was just hearing it would be

53:29

like the last time and was like, no,

53:32

I think he thought he was going to win this time and decided

53:35

to be a good fuck you.

53:36

Basically, I

53:40

got, I got, I got spaghetti sauce.

53:42

I don't need this.

53:42

Yeah, oh

53:44

my god, that HMC. This is something

53:47

that you actually could come out of viewing

53:49

retirement for. I feel like, you really

53:52

like this.

53:53

I literally, I'm it is required

53:55

viewing now in my class. They have

53:58

to get tested on it.

54:00

There will be a pop quiz later.

54:01

There will be a pop quiz exactly,

54:04

and they have to watch the Bear now too.

54:08

The Bear. I can't

54:11

watch the Bear because literally, you know. Okay,

54:14

so we did like a marathon the other night.

54:16

I finally got Mike to stay, my husband to stay

54:18

awake long enough to watch it. But it is literally

54:20

like his life right now in the restaurant, and I

54:23

feel like, yeah,

54:25

so he's making me watch it to

54:27

feel his pain, and I already feel

54:29

his pain because I live with him, so I

54:32

don't need to like relax by

54:34

watching the day happen all over again, basically,

54:38

So it's just like confirming that

54:40

he's as miserable as he seems. And

54:43

I'm like, yes, I get it, because like

54:45

right now, when he's in New York for the week, I'm

54:47

the one who is miserable as he seems.

54:50

It's me. I just left.

54:53

I'll be back for the

54:55

lunch rush.

54:56

Wait a second, can we call you the bear?

54:58

Yeah? No, so I have to be in the kitchen.

55:00

I don't want to be in the kitchen. I will not go back there.

55:04

So like you guys walk around your house

55:06

saying yes chef.

55:06

Or do you just yes chef? Oh?

55:09

Actually know, when I'm really irritated with him,

55:11

I will just say heard word

55:17

crazy, say that I'm like heard,

55:21

oh still heard, oh

55:23

oh, still hurding.

55:25

I feel like I'm going to be getting that text in

55:27

my future. Heard. Can

55:32

we please heard? Yeah?

55:34

Eighty six eighty

55:38

six?

55:38

True?

55:40

Wait to say, you can't Eddie six a person?

55:42

You can?

55:43

Actually I have no you're

55:46

phased?

55:50

I mean I love a good calling. But Jesus.

55:55

No, I stay in the front of the house.

55:56

His his.

55:58

Areas in the back of the house. So it's kind

56:00

of like where it's my team against his team

56:03

because they each blame each other. So

56:06

his team was winning yesterday.

56:09

Well, you're technically playing for both teams

56:11

right now.

56:12

No, we don't work like that.

56:14

Well he's not He's not there, so you're running

56:16

both teams.

56:17

My department still needs to be better though.

56:19

You're the Chargers and the Rams.

56:23

Share.

56:25

Listen, you don't get eighty six b K. We're

56:28

only on minute eight.

56:29

Okay, Clippers, Lakers, I don't know, Dodgers.

56:35

Angels, Jets,

56:39

Jets in the Giants, Giants

56:43

on the jersey. Oh

56:45

my god, it's true.

56:48

So Jeffrey, welcome to the show. Thank

56:50

you so much for being here and joining us

56:52

today. I know it's been a hot minute

56:55

since you were shooting Apocalypse

56:58

not but we really appreciate you taking the time to

57:00

come and hang with us.

57:01

Of course, it's got that

57:04

or March, you know, steps

57:06

in on the picket line.

57:09

Yeah, I guess. And you're

57:11

allowed. We're allowed to promote things that we did

57:13

like two decades ago.

57:15

I mean say, yeah, I asked

57:17

that question.

57:18

Yeah, I can't be mad at us for that.

57:20

I asked people who were on the board he

57:22

did, yeah.

57:25

Wells like, we're technically not really

57:27

promoting it. We're just talking about it.

57:29

Does that count us promotion reminiscing? Yeah,

57:32

we're exploring.

57:33

We're exploring. I'm not saying you guys want

57:36

download this episode and watch it. Sometimes

57:39

you do well, download

57:41

our episode.

57:42

We can.

57:43

We can promote our own show. We

57:45

can't.

57:45

Oh this, yes, but yes for watch

57:48

parties, you have to be more careful.

57:50

So we are not promoting them to We're not download

57:53

this episode.

57:53

So no, download the House of

57:56

Hallowell episode. That's a completely different

57:58

show than the show that we're actually discussing.

58:00

Or well, what I do is dissect

58:03

the episodes and talk about what I don't like.

58:05

So basically it's a retrospective

58:08

study the failure.

58:10

Other than Spelling himself,

58:14

who what studio financed

58:16

this?

58:17

I don't even Oh, well it went

58:19

from Spelling Paramount absorbed

58:21

it incoming.

58:25

Yeah, her restaurant, this other restaurant is on

58:27

literally on the tarmac.

58:29

It's in the runway, it's in the way. It

58:33

was absorbed by Paramount. When spelling.

58:38

Well, they didn't go under, but they sold

58:41

their library to Paramount, and

58:44

then CBS is now

58:46

in charge for unknown reasons.

58:48

Because they own Paramount. Yeah so,

58:52

or the paramount owns them somebody?

58:54

Yeah they they so they owned

58:56

the yeah

58:59

until property they

59:02

and the name and the reboot privileges.

59:05

Sure.

59:06

Well, we briefly chatted about that before

59:09

we started taping, and Jeff Harwood

59:12

the what the R word? Oh,

59:14

the reboot? Yeah, well,

59:17

please share with Holly. Yeah.

59:19

I can only tell you that that I know

59:22

that there's not great blood between the two the

59:24

two versions.

59:26

I am.

59:26

I think the only actor who guest starred

59:28

in lead guest roles on both

59:31

of them.

59:32

Jesus, I played an

59:34

oracle or something on the other one.

59:36

Yeah, or something is right. No,

59:40

you know, there's not a lot of you know, the

59:43

press does what the press does. There wasn't a lot of

59:45

sad blood. What there was was

59:47

the way they came out of the gate with their advertising

59:50

was exactly what you shouldn't do for

59:53

a remake or reboot. They

59:55

sort of like dissed the original and said we're going

59:57

to do it better in every way I

59:59

can.

1:00:00

I'm not involved, don't know any

1:00:02

difference, don't know, Baddy. Thing

1:00:04

I do remember. I do remember our

1:00:06

show that I did with you. I do remember. It

1:00:09

was I think it was the end

1:00:11

of the Shannon reign.

1:00:14

She was just leaving and that

1:00:17

was a big topic around things.

1:00:20

And she was trying to for

1:00:22

sure.

1:00:23

Yeah, and I think she was she

1:00:25

was prepping to direct something.

1:00:27

Yes, so

1:00:29

you were an ultimate episode of season two.

1:00:31

Yeah, and she was directing the finale of season

1:00:34

two, right.

1:00:35

So yeah, that's what it was.

1:00:36

That's what I do remember, and I remember she

1:00:38

was I was.

1:00:40

I did the show literally because my friend was

1:00:42

directing it, Michael Zimberg,

1:00:44

who was.

1:00:45

To this day a big mentor

1:00:47

of mine in a big, you know, very much

1:00:49

my life.

1:00:50

Still I think I've done at

1:00:52

least twenty some hours of television

1:00:54

with Michael Wow, and

1:00:57

still to this you know, even shadowed him for a.

1:00:59

While because I was thinking of directing television.

1:01:03

Yeah, so that that I do remember. I remember

1:01:05

that.

1:01:06

I remember, uh, you,

1:01:09

Holly were dating some very

1:01:11

good looking crew member. I

1:01:17

do remember that he was

1:01:19

really good looking.

1:01:23

And I think he was I don't know, he's the camera

1:01:26

department or something.

1:01:27

As those guys. Yeah, I have

1:01:29

three children with that person.

1:01:32

Okay, there you go.

1:01:33

Yeah, I know I was.

1:01:34

I was at the forefront of.

1:01:36

You were all the things

1:01:39

the early stages of the early stages

1:01:41

of Offspring Italian huld

1:01:44

not be mentioned.

1:01:44

At least I was paying attention.

1:01:47

You were.

1:01:49

Quick question did you when you got the show?

1:01:53

Did you?

1:01:53

What?

1:01:54

Was like, like we all kind

1:01:56

of have our Aaron Spelling story.

1:01:58

About I did not audition, so it

1:02:00

wasn't one of those cases. It literally was Michael

1:02:04

calling me up and said, I'm doing this

1:02:06

thing. It's I don't even know

1:02:08

what it is.

1:02:09

It's something about horsemen and something about the apocalypse

1:02:11

and something about this and and come

1:02:15

and wear a black suit and wear a green tie,

1:02:17

and I.

1:02:18

That that's that's how that went out.

1:02:21

Like I said, I didn't even know it was a spout show, because

1:02:25

that would probably that probably would be the only

1:02:27

time I ever have done a spelling show then, not

1:02:30

that that not for lack of history

1:02:32

of the big couch and the fishing hat, and

1:02:35

I do I was saying, I do remember I

1:02:37

remember going up for some

1:02:40

pilot there and it was and

1:02:43

Aaron was sitting in his everybody

1:02:45

was over here on one side about a half a mile away

1:02:47

on the couch, and he was over on the other side on the

1:02:49

couch and his fishing hat, and

1:02:52

I do remember him literally, that wonderful,

1:02:54

little polite voice.

1:02:55

Well, Jeffer, and I've always been a long admirer of

1:02:57

your work. I can

1:02:59

get going to.

1:03:00

Come right out and say it. And I said, okay,

1:03:03

well, what we're looking for here is we're looking for,

1:03:06

well, pretty much.

1:03:06

The next Luke Perry and

1:03:09

uh and you are not that.

1:03:13

And I said, yeah, yes, sir, and

1:03:15

I've never really aspired to be either, and

1:03:19

thank you, and

1:03:22

so thank you.

1:03:23

For having me, and I will go on my

1:03:25

way.

1:03:25

And I did.

1:03:26

And I remember calling my agent and saying

1:03:29

he was a lovely, lovely

1:03:31

gay man and also

1:03:33

had a very similar high voice.

1:03:35

And I said, well, this is what he.

1:03:36

Said to me, and uh, my

1:03:39

hat just said, okay, Jeffy, well let's

1:03:42

just face it, okay. So like

1:03:45

in that world and the spelling world, yes,

1:03:48

you're about a seven, he

1:03:50

said, and he goes, but sweetheart,

1:03:53

in the gay world.

1:03:55

Ten plus.

1:03:59

Incredible.

1:04:01

That was my last demographics.

1:04:03

Yeah, thank god, my future career after

1:04:06

that. I

1:04:09

was not going to be a spelling guy.

1:04:12

Ever.

1:04:13

He became a Zamechas guy, which is say,

1:04:17

one of the coolest things an

1:04:19

actor could be.

1:04:20

The other the other side of the paramount

1:04:22

lot. Yeah, yes,

1:04:24

blessings to mister.

1:04:26

Mister.

1:04:27

So to this day, I

1:04:30

can guarantee that that ninety nine residual

1:04:33

was not from a Za Mecchas project.

1:04:35

That's last week. How

1:04:38

did that come about? Was it?

1:04:42

It's interesting?

1:04:43

I uh, I

1:04:46

want to say as Victoria Burrows

1:04:48

I believe was was his casting person.

1:04:51

Yes, it was Victoria and.

1:04:55

I had just come off of a series

1:04:57

that I had done for I

1:05:00

comedy series that I had done for Fox

1:05:03

Slash Showtime. They were kind of in partnership

1:05:05

together before Showtime really existed,

1:05:09

and I'd done one season

1:05:11

of it, and then they decided

1:05:13

that I really my

1:05:17

character was one joke basically for the whole

1:05:19

show for an entire season, and we kind

1:05:21

of came to the understanding that, you

1:05:24

know, there were broader horizons in my

1:05:26

life than coming in once a week and doing the one

1:05:28

joke, and

1:05:31

so I was a little bummed about it, I remember,

1:05:34

and then and then my agent, Howard

1:05:36

Goldberg at the time, said

1:05:38

well, Victoria would like you to come

1:05:40

in and meet Robert Samachis, and

1:05:44

that was on Forrest Gump. And

1:05:49

interestingly enough, I had had a history,

1:05:52

a real life history of

1:05:55

I grew up in northern California, up in just

1:05:57

outside of Oakland, and

1:06:01

my character, if you call the film,

1:06:03

was with the Starts. You meet him first at the Black

1:06:05

Panther uh demonstrating

1:06:07

the headquarters of Black Panthers in Washington, d C.

1:06:10

Right before the demonstration on the mall.

1:06:13

And I'm there as this activist

1:06:16

of the Student

1:06:18

Union of Berkeley, California and

1:06:21

Jenny's boyfriend. And so

1:06:25

I told Bob a story of a true story

1:06:27

that when I was sixteen years old

1:06:29

and I was living in the suburbs of

1:06:32

Oakland, a place called Danville, California,

1:06:35

which is, you know, whiter than whier

1:06:37

that still is almost to say, whiter than you could possibly

1:06:39

be, and more golf attire than anyone

1:06:42

could ever imagine.

1:06:44

I for our history.

1:06:47

We had to for our social studies history class

1:06:49

in high school, we had to join a

1:06:51

political party.

1:06:54

We were sixteen, so.

1:06:55

We had to, you know.

1:06:56

And so most kids, you know, they joined the Young Republicans,

1:06:58

they joined the Democrats. That's not so many of

1:07:00

those in Danville and you know some

1:07:02

even as far as the John Birch Society, and that

1:07:06

I was the one in stule person.

1:07:07

I rode bart into

1:07:09

Oakland and I joined the Black

1:07:12

Panthers. Wow,

1:07:15

I knocked. I knocked on their door

1:07:17

and said, listen, I'm from this blah blah blah blah blah.

1:07:20

I was that kind of kid.

1:07:21

I was the hippie theater kid you know, who wore

1:07:24

jelly shoes and you know and orange

1:07:27

mc hammer pants. And so I knocked

1:07:29

on their door and said, I have this

1:07:32

assignment in my town

1:07:34

of Danville, and uh, they

1:07:36

want me to join.

1:07:37

A political party.

1:07:38

I can't see any So I thought,

1:07:40

your guys is the most interesting and the most radical,

1:07:43

so can I join?

1:07:46

And they laughed their asses off and

1:07:49

they invited me in and I

1:07:51

joined the Black Panther Party.

1:07:54

And that's that started pretty much

1:07:56

my my dossier with an FBI

1:07:58

file. So

1:08:02

that continued on as I.

1:08:03

You know, became good friends with Martin Sheen and March

1:08:05

Done never really Marched,

1:08:08

but affiliated enough with with with

1:08:10

Amelia and the movement. So

1:08:12

that's so I told Bob that story, which she found absolutely

1:08:15

compelling and funny and hired

1:08:17

me.

1:08:18

So Wow, So

1:08:21

thanks to the Black Panthers. Yeah,

1:08:25

exactly.

1:08:26

You were amazing in that. Thank

1:08:28

you great everybody. I

1:08:31

loved hating that.

1:08:33

He was Literally he's like only the only bad guy

1:08:35

in the movie, right.

1:08:40

Yeah.

1:08:40

So when he says, I hate to disrupt your

1:08:42

Black Panther party, is

1:08:44

that?

1:08:45

Did they get that from you?

1:08:49

I don't know if it was. Tom's pretty clever, so

1:08:52

it may have.

1:08:54

It may have.

1:08:55

It probably came from Tom. It was a

1:08:57

lot of it was.

1:08:59

Bob is very very

1:09:02

open to improvisation. I

1:09:05

have a very famous improv line in

1:09:07

there as well, and it.

1:09:11

I had done some research on the

1:09:15

mindset of boyfriends

1:09:17

or husbands that abuse women, and

1:09:21

the main thing that all came

1:09:23

down.

1:09:24

To is that it seems that abusive

1:09:26

men always have an excuse as to why

1:09:28

they did it. Yeah, she made me

1:09:30

do it, Yeah exactly. So

1:09:33

when we went to go to the bus scene where he had

1:09:35

already beat he'd already I'd beat slapped her

1:09:37

so hard, and Forrest had already beat the shit

1:09:39

out of me. I

1:09:41

talked above about it, and I said, well, there's

1:09:44

a beat missing here in the scene, and

1:09:47

that we're not we're not hearing

1:09:49

his excuse and

1:09:51

that wasn't and he goes what we

1:09:53

talked about, He goes, well what would that be?

1:09:55

And I go as he does he does he likes to just

1:09:57

roll camera, see what happens.

1:09:59

He goes, well, give me something, let's just roll

1:10:01

this, and we rolled

1:10:03

it and we did it. And to take this sit into it was

1:10:05

there was the line is it's just a war and that

1:10:07

lying son of a bitch Johnson like

1:10:10

I blamed beating her up on the

1:10:12

war and the president and.

1:10:14

Then climbing up.

1:10:17

Yeah, that's why I have the right to beat her

1:10:19

up, to spend a rough day,

1:10:22

yes, which you know fit

1:10:24

the tone of the movie.

1:10:25

And where do you

1:10:28

where would one draw from? Uh,

1:10:31

you know, faked deal, make it type of thing?

1:10:33

Like how do you build that confidence

1:10:35

when you're not getting a roll, when you don't have anything.

1:10:37

All you're doing is rehearsing with your friends and people

1:10:39

tell you pretty from you know, Indiana or

1:10:41

whatever.

1:10:44

I will always go back to to Stella Adlers

1:10:47

saying, and many have taken to

1:10:49

be an actor and be successful

1:10:52

as an actor, you have to have the soul of a rose

1:10:55

and the height of a rhinoceros, the

1:10:59

hide, the rhinoceros is the part

1:11:02

that most people don't have. You

1:11:05

have to understand that when you don't get I

1:11:07

mean, I could tell you the parts that I did not get that would

1:11:09

have changed the trajectory of my whole life.

1:11:11

Yeah, I mean I tested.

1:11:14

I tested for the role that Johnny ultimately

1:11:16

did on twenty one Jump Street.

1:11:18

Oh my god.

1:11:19

And when when the

1:11:21

guy created it was creating it, his vision

1:11:23

was that this was going to be a character

1:11:26

actor who was more like Sean Penn than

1:11:28

like Matt Dillon, and was going

1:11:30

to go into every high school every week and completely

1:11:33

change characters and morphosize into

1:11:35

a different character in every single high school.

1:11:37

That was the original concept of twenty

1:11:40

one Jump Street.

1:11:40

Well, yeah, that would makes sense.

1:11:42

Yeah, and cool and the most

1:11:45

handsome guy ever.

1:11:46

Yeah.

1:11:46

And then of course the studio, well

1:11:48

yes, and then the studio executive, and

1:11:51

the studio executive says, that's great, could

1:11:54

we have one that like can be on the cover of Tiger Beat and really

1:11:57

handsome, And they didn't actually hire Johnny.

1:11:59

Actually Johnny wasn't available. Johnny

1:12:02

was shooting Platoon I think, or

1:12:04

whatever, the one that he's shooting. Some all of us

1:12:06

don't whichever was shooting was

1:12:09

a platoon or it could have been the

1:12:12

tom cruise on the So yeah,

1:12:15

so he was shooting that.

1:12:16

So he wasn't available.

1:12:17

So they hired a guy named Jeff Yeger

1:12:21

to play this part, and

1:12:23

they shot it with Jeff Yeger, and they did the pilot

1:12:25

and they didn't dig Jeff Yeger so much for

1:12:27

some reason.

1:12:28

Whatever it was, couldn't tell you.

1:12:31

And ultimately then Johnny

1:12:33

became available and they

1:12:35

redid the pilot or

1:12:38

or maybe they never did shoot the I don't know, but then they hired

1:12:41

Johnny and I did the very

1:12:43

first episode.

1:12:45

As a character named Jeffrey. Do you

1:12:47

want to know that happened?

1:12:49

Who was the main guest star drug

1:12:51

dealer? And

1:12:54

you know that was my consolation prize for being

1:12:58

on the show. So

1:13:01

that's an example if you can't, you know,

1:13:03

I could be fretting about that and say, oh I could

1:13:05

have been the guy and oh I could have done that.

1:13:06

Oh I could have. You can't, you

1:13:10

cannot. You have to just go it

1:13:13

happens for a reason. Whatever happens isn't

1:13:15

going to happen.

1:13:17

Yeah, And that's what I always said, is that you know, whoever

1:13:19

was meant to do the role, will do it. And you

1:13:21

know, like I even hesitate to talk about the things

1:13:23

that I didn't get because.

1:13:25

It wasn't for me, right, Yeah,

1:13:29

And there was that one.

1:13:32

There was that one I could have done better than her, but I still

1:13:35

don't talk about it the other one.

1:13:37

Yeah, And then other times

1:13:40

it's like, oh, they were so perfect for they

1:13:42

were so clearly that character. Thank

1:13:44

god they hired them and not me. Yeah,

1:13:47

like that was their role and they they

1:13:51

they crushed, right.

1:13:53

I can remember back auditioning for friends,

1:13:56

right, like my agent had her.

1:13:58

I mean, I actually look like you, Perry.

1:14:02

Even still sometimes like even when I was walking down

1:14:04

the red carpet at midway, they kept screaming out

1:14:06

Matthew, Matthew, I said, and they're like no,

1:14:09

no, but okay, yeah, can I have his bank

1:14:11

account?

1:14:14

And uh and so but

1:14:16

no I read for the David Swimmer part. Wow,

1:14:19

okay, Well.

1:14:20

They're never going to hire you and Swimmer.

1:14:23

No, no, not Swimmer, Perry, Perry

1:14:26

and Harry. You're never going to get hired together unless

1:14:28

you're playing brothers.

1:14:29

Brothers.

1:14:30

That's like me and f Campbell, never gonna happen.

1:14:32

I can see that too, for sure. So

1:14:35

that's the answer. The answer is you can't.

1:14:37

You just gotta move forward as hard

1:14:40

as it is. You just gotta keep

1:14:42

chugging, is what you do. And

1:14:46

you get down. I tell that was like, you know I've

1:14:49

done at all? You drop me?

1:14:51

Come on, man, how many agents have dropped

1:14:54

me? It's like many,

1:14:57

exactly many. It's like, you know, really

1:15:00

ages dropped you, but you have a three page resume.

1:15:02

Yeah, but they still do because they because

1:15:05

you have a dollar sign above your head.

1:15:06

Yeah.

1:15:06

Dropped after fifteen years in an agency, Yeah,

1:15:09

and then series regular and two shows. It

1:15:11

just happens. Yeah, you

1:15:13

didn't work in the last two years. You're like, right,

1:15:15

but what about that fifteen years, the thirteen

1:15:18

years that led up to that two year

1:15:20

dry spell? That's my fault.

1:15:22

Yeah. And I had an agent say

1:15:24

to me, I go because well, you

1:15:28

know, I just I don't know what to do with you. I

1:15:31

don't you know. It's like, I can't you know.

1:15:33

So all I can say when I pitch you is

1:15:35

that he's a great actor. And

1:15:37

I said that's a bad thing. Well,

1:15:41

I don't know what to do with a great actor.

1:15:44

I think that's the goal, isn't it, I.

1:15:47

Said, now I'm depressed again.

1:15:52

But it's a big deal, Drew.

1:15:53

It's the truth, and people like well, like

1:15:55

these actors are so obsessed with it. What is your

1:15:58

brand? I don't I don't have a brand.

1:16:00

I don't know.

1:16:01

Kim Kardashian is a brand, you know, Coca

1:16:04

Cola is a brand. I'm

1:16:06

an actor a thing.

1:16:08

I'm an actor.

1:16:09

I'm an act, not

1:16:11

a person. But this is how

1:16:14

hypocritical those agents are.

1:16:16

That same agent when he signed me, said,

1:16:20

you know, I looked at your I looked at your rail,

1:16:22

and you know, I can tell you is that

1:16:25

what I saw? It is like I recognized

1:16:27

every one of those characters from every one of

1:16:30

those movies.

1:16:31

Sure, what I didn't know it was the same

1:16:33

actor who played them.

1:16:34

Well that's a good thing.

1:16:35

It's a great compliment, it is.

1:16:37

But then that's also but

1:16:40

that's yeah,

1:16:43

but what do I know with that?

1:16:45

I don't know what appointment to send you to?

1:16:49

Yeah, exactly, God.

1:16:53

Just send me exactly, Polly.

1:16:56

Great to see you. And I'm

1:16:59

just happy I was there at the you know, I wasn't

1:17:02

wrong, and that there was the handsome crew guy

1:17:04

and there's three kids later.

1:17:05

So yes, I'm yes,

1:17:08

thank you so much.

1:17:09

And before we sprap off, Jeffrey, where can

1:17:12

you know our fans find you and follow up with you? What's

1:17:14

what's coming out next?

1:17:16

I have I'm not you know, we had

1:17:18

the pandemic, so not a whole hell of lots the

1:17:21

short I'm doing, you have coming out?

1:17:23

Uh, you can't not find me. There

1:17:26

was a you know, I it's funny. I'll

1:17:29

just tell that last story. The last story I will tell.

1:17:31

I was sitting when I was in Durango and

1:17:33

we were shooting this western this thing called Texas

1:17:35

Rising, ten hour mini series. It

1:17:37

was me, Billy Paxton, Jeffery,

1:17:40

Deane Morgan, Raleio to May

1:17:42

Recipe, Chris McDonald,

1:17:45

John Sheck, Crispin

1:17:48

Glover, Brendan Fraser before

1:17:51

the whale.

1:17:51

Uh.

1:17:52

And we were all sitting on these horses and we're

1:17:54

all waiting for this huge John Ford ironically

1:17:57

john Ford sweeping cringe.

1:18:00

Yeah, and

1:18:03

uh, I start cracking up and

1:18:05

Billy.

1:18:06

Goes, well, so funny, GB

1:18:09

And I said, and I

1:18:11

looked down this line of gentlemen and I said,

1:18:14

man, we were big in the nineties.

1:18:22

Jeff at jeff the

1:18:25

lawn the

1:18:29

lawn mower, man, so

1:18:32

that will can sign on.

1:18:35

That's a great button.

1:18:36

Yeah, you could find me on all those things.

1:18:38

Jeffrey Jeffrey underscore Blake

1:18:41

on the Instagram, and I

1:18:43

got off of the X.

1:18:44

The Twitter just for because I can't support

1:18:47

I can't support mister.

1:18:49

Mister Musk in any way, shape or form, So

1:18:51

that would be my only social media presence.

1:18:54

There you go.

1:18:54

Okay, fantastic, And

1:18:57

if they want to study with me, just you know,

1:18:59

reach out to me through there.

1:19:02

Okay, so the Instagram.

1:19:03

All right, thank you, Holly, say hello to

1:19:06

all right, bye guys, all

1:19:09

right, take thank you.

1:19:11

Wow.

1:19:12

I love how we all every one of us repeated big

1:19:21

in the night. That's great, that's a great.

1:19:23

Thank you so much

1:19:25

for teking. Uh well,

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