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The accused Idaho student killer, Brian Coberger,

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was back in court today.

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Appearing in a Moscow, Idaho courtroom

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for a pre trial hearing as

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his lawyers prepared to defend him against

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four counts of first degree murder and

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now the death penalty.

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This is the Idaho Massacre

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a production of KT Studios and iHeartRadio

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episode ten Building

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a Defense. I'm

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Courtney Armstrong, a television producer

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at Kat's Studios, with Stephanie Lydecker,

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Jeff Shane, and Connor Powell.

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When Brian Cobeger walked into the courtroom

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on the afternoon of Tuesday, June twenty

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seventh, he looked different. He

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carried himself differently. Flanked

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by his defense team Anne Taylor, Jay

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Logstin and Alyssa Masseth, Coburger

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entered the courtroom wearing a dark suit and tie

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with a white dress shirt. His

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face was clean shaven, his hair

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styled with jel. Gone

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was the bright orange prison jumpsuit that

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the twenty eight year old quadruple murder

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suspect had worn for most of his previous

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court appearances. In

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another world, the former PhD criminology

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student looked like he could be testifying as

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an expert witness for another case

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rather than appearing as a murder suspect.

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But on June twenty seventh, Coburger,

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who was accused of brutally murdering Kaylee

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Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan,

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Xana Kernodle, and Nathan Chapin,

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was simply in the Alida County courtroom

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to listen to his lawyers begin to lay out

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their defense and fight to

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keep him from being executed.

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All right, this

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is State of Idah O versus Brian

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Koberger on mister Coberger

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is JIMI Corp.

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In the days leading up to this much anticipated

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hearing, there was speculation that Coberger's

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defense team would ask the judge to force the

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prosecution to provide information

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and documents on a wide range of topics.

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However, before the defense and prosecution

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made their presentations to Judge John

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Judge, he first addressed the issue of

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cameras in the courtroom. A month

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earlier, Coberger's defense team had

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asked the judge to remove press cameras.

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They worried the continued focus on Coburger

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my prejudice potential jurors against

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Coburger at his trial, especially

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as analysts legal commentators

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and social media influencers pick apart

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Coberger's body language and every blink

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of his eye. Yet, a month after

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the defense made the request, the judge had

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not made a decision, instead

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opting to warn at the start of the hearing

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about how the media should conduct themselves

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and cover the courtroom.

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I have deferred my decision

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about cameras. One of the things

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that's going to be really important, that

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is very important is that the

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people with the camera and media need

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to follow the rules.

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And we've had some issues where people

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were pushing the envelope, particularly

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focusing on the tables

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where council sits. I

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would prefer if you want to continue

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to have cameras in.

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This courtroom, is to back

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off make sure that we

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just have the totality

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of what is happening in

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the court and not just focus,

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for example, on this

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co River's face.

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With the media warned, the hearing turned

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the defense's motions. In

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the days leading up to this much anticipate hearing,

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there was speculation that Coberger's

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defense team would ask the judge to force

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the prosecution to provide information

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and documents on a wide range of topics

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from the investigation into the suspected

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white vehicle, to the grand jury proceedings,

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to cell phone data, to the FBI's

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DNA records. For weeks, Coberger's

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defense team had been sending signals

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that they were unhappy with the slow pace that

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the prosecution had been turning over key

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documents. Here's defense attorney

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and Taylor, and during the

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course of.

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The last several months, there has been a lot

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of discovery that's been requested in a lot

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of business supply. I

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come here asking the court to compel discovery.

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I'm seeing and order directing

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that we received his discovery by not.

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Seeing any other kind of spanking.

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I don't saying that

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the prosecutor has done

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something wrong. I've come here saying that

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there are things that we have the disagreement

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about whether I should get them or

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when I should get them, and we see it.

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Co or to in this

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regard.

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Once the hearings started, defense Attorney

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An Taylor limited the scope of a request

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to two single topics. First,

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she requested the prosecution turn over

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the investigative and training records

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for three specific Idaho police officers.

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Are one of the Courtant Council to be aware,

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it's not a psiane's division either

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real items that are really necessary

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to investigate this pace into paranis

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or coworker's events.

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Taylor argued the defense needed more information

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about the criminal investigation that led

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to Coberger's arrest in December of twenty twenty

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two, and these three officers

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since they were at the center of that investigation.

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Taylor said, one officer interviewed a

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key witness at the scene of the murders, and

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another conducted dozens of interviews

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with witnesses and attended the victim's

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autopsies.

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You're one of these.

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We have not asked for training records

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for every officer that acidity

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thing to do with the case. I

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would not want to stand here and what the court think

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that this is an exhaustive list of the

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officers that we might need.

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Training records for that.

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These are three officers that we've

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requested or in the stake has indicated

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they're not willing to get us as training records.

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These three officers are officers

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that have each conducted critical

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interviews with critical

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witnesses in the case, made

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decisions about the interviews,

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made decisions about evidence,

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and conducted other kinds of investigations.

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We seek their training records to understand

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that their processes.

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Taylor added that this request is not unusual,

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nor did you believe it was a particularly difficult

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request.

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I have often received training records

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where I under state police officers in the

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correporation of other cases during

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the course of my career. They

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are imperative for us

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to understand the specialty

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in interrogating and interviewing

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people and from making the decisions

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that they made with regard to things

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taken as evidence in the case where Base

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followed back on Will not followed that.

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Leida County Deputy Prosecutor

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Ashley Jennings, however, responded

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and said that none of these officers would be

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called to testify at the trial, and

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that hundreds of officers worked on the investigation

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that led to the arrest of Brian Kobeger.

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She said she feared this motion could

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become a burden for the prosecution.

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Our concern with

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allowing training records for these

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view which we can't understand why there's a

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substantial.

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Need for these particular ones.

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When it opened the door to us

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then having to go and get obtained training

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records for these hundreds of investing

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of officers who've been involved somewhat

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was your outside of our controls.

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Taylor pushed back on this concern and reminded

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the court that Coburger was facing the death penalty

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and as the.

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Quarter is aware, the state has fiblets

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to notice of intantacy, death.

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Pansims of cold over.

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These are critical relevant

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materials, all of them, including

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the police training records. They're necessary

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for us to prepare and present

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part of fancies or co worker. They're

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necessary for us to do our investigation.

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They're necessary for us to prepare our

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case and our motion tactics meaning

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forward.

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These are things that we need

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to have.

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They're a heightened standard now that the state's

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filence notice is intent to seek death

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and he's a very relevant critical bits

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of information. They are discoverable

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and were asking for order the things applied

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to us to.

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Judged on judge that he would consider both

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sides of the argument and would issue a written

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decision at a later date. After

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ask the court to force the prosecution

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to provide the Idaho police training records,

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and Taylor also asked the judge to rule

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on two previous requests regarding

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FBI records. Taylor asked

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for records from the FBI's cellular

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analysis survey team. The CAST

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team had been brought in to help process data

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from Coberger's mobile phone.

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These are bits an investigation

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that the FBI conducted that

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relate to mister

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Coberger's cell phone and the State

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has relied on that in their appidated

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to say that mister Coberger was in

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certain places at certain times.

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The original requests for FBI's

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cell phone data and White Hondai vehicle

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information was made weeks prior.

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So these are bits of information

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and analysis that's been done since

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December.

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We are now at the end of June.

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We do not have those records yet.

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Run they are something that's been relied

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on by the stape for the puciapidata

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to a restuens to comorner as

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well as to obtain.

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A variety of search ones.

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It's information that the state

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has agreed we should have, so

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we asked support for an.

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Order with the deadlines with that

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prosecution, however, insisted they

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had turned over everything in their possession.

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We have discovered or talk to me about, thirteen

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thousand pages of reports, thirteen

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thousand photographs, over

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ten thousand tips, and

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over fifteen one terror rites of

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audio and video information. Miss

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Taylor has everything that we have what

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she is seeking as a specific report

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from the theodcast team, which

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I have indicated to her, is in its final stages

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of review, and we are

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anticipating receiving sooner rather

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than later, and as soon as.

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We do, we will send that over.

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Judge sewn. Judge ruled on the spot for

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the defense and suggested the FBI

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documents relating to the cell phone data

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and Whitehaun Dilancha vehicle information

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should be turned over no later than July

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fourteenth. Here's

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Jeff and Stephanie.

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Since we haven't had a substantial update on this

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case in a while, there was a lot of hype

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for this hearing, and while it was substantial, it

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didn't quite have the same omph we thought

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it might.

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To your point, it was extremely short,

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just thirty minutes. For note, pre

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trial hearings can last anywhere

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from two minutes to two hours, depending

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upon the complexity of the case. But since

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there was seemingly a lot to cover, this

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went much shorter than expected.

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Well, that could be because a lot of what we thought

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might get brought up didn't remember. Three days

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after the announcement of the indictment back in May,

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the defense asked for thirty four specific pieces

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of information from the grand jury proceedings,

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all the transcripts, recordings, and evidence,

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even the jurors names. Originally,

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the defense request for grand jury information was supposed

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to be part of the hearing on the twenty seventh, but then

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it wasn't, though it does appear that the lawyers

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are talking behind the scenes to try to come up

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with an agreement on this issue.

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The other big issue that we thought was going

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to be part of the hearing, and this is a big

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one, was the defense's request

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for the documents related to the DNA

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and the FBI's effort to build out

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this family tree. Like we discussed earlier, that

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family tree is what led investigators to Coburger.

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The state ended up asking for more time

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to respond in the judge granted it.

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But the issue of the DNA, how it was collected,

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how it was handled, and how it was used,

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seems to be a growing issue and it is not

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going away anytime soon.

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So I believe there has to be a pre trial

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hearing in terms of determining whether

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or not this is good or whether

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it is outside the ability to

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say yes, the procedure they used

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was proper and the eventual swab

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that they used for traditional DNAs admissible.

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That's going to be a serious because this is a DNA

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case.

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Since the first time DNA was used in

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nineteen eighty seven to convict a suspect

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in the United States, DNA has played

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a major role in criminal investigations

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and in securing convictions. While

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the statistical connection between the DNA

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taken from the knife sheath found of the crime

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scene and the DNA taken from Brian

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Coberger's cheek seems very straightforward

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and in line with how DNA is usually used

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in criminal investigations, attorney

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and former prosecutor Stephen Greenberg

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says there could be a small chance this DNA

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evidence is not even admissible at

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Coberger's trial because of the unique

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role the FBI played in narrowing the

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search down to Brian Coburger. Here's

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Stephen Greenberg.

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It has to be a pre trial here in terms

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of whether or not the DNA evidence will

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be admissible at all because

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of the way they got there. There's a number of issues

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that come into play, because if you remember,

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they tried a whole number of

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things before they outsourceed to

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the Bureau, and let's remember this you know the

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f and FBI is federal. This is

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not a federal case. There's no US attorney

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involved. This is a state prosecution in

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a small town in Idaho. And I'm

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not so sure how sophisticated

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the police and prosecutors are. There's a

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chain of custody issue, because you

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know, they sent this thing out and who

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knows where it went, who knows

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who who was using it.

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Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in

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a moment. After

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local investigators found the knife sheath

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cover under Madison Mogan's comforter,

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they checked it for DNA and found a very

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small amount on the button of the knife sheath.

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Investigators then ran the DNA through

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a national criminal database, but

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the DNA from the knife sheath did not produce

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any matches. Instead

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of giving up, the DNA information was

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then sent to the FB, who passed

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it on to a private laboratory named

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Authrum, which then began to look for

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relatives of the DNA sequence in

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publicly available genealogy databases.

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Ultimately, genetic genealogists

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combed through hundreds of names connected

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to the DNA and narrow down the likely

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DNA profile to Brian Koberger.

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Greenberg says because this type of genetic

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genealogy method is so new

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and untested in the courts, the defense

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will likely challenge its admissibility

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in a pre trial hearing and will put both

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FBI and AUTHORAM officials under

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oath.

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There will have to be evidentiary hearings, see, because it's

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all going to go to the issue of whether the court's going

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to let in this evidence. The judge will have to

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have pre trial hearings, and these

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people will be on the stand because it goes to the

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heart of the case in terms of the issues that we've been

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talking about. So now they'll take the stand pre

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trial, and they'll take the stand during the trial.

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And even if the judge allows the DNA to

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use in the trial, Coberger's defense

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is likely to challenge it at every turn.

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There were a universe of other people who

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came up when they did the non traditional

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okay, the genetic and why can't

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we have those names? Did they follow up

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on anybody other than this one defendant?

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So yeah, the issues, even if the judge

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allows it in that will be cross examination

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material for the defense. So if the main

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issue and the only issue by which a jury

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can find this guy guilty beyond

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a reasonable doubt is DNA. However,

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all I need is write one juror for a mistrial,

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And if the judge does let it in, it's

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still going to be as serious. They're going to open on it,

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they're going to cross examine on it, and they're going to close

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on it.

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Because that's the case.

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The Coburger defense team cannot challenge

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the DNA in a pre trial hearing until

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it receives all of the FBI and

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off from paperwork from the prosecution, And

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so far, the prosecution has refused

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to turn over the FBI documents, claiming

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they don't have the information, hinting

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that the FBI hadn't or wouldn't

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turn over the information. Instead,

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the prosecution has asked the judge to allow

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for more time to respond to the defense's

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request. Greenberg says the

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delay in turning over DNA information

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is unusual and unlike the FBI, which

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has a long history of being on the cutting

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edge of using science to solve crimes.

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Makes no sense to me. Well, let's remember this.

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The responsibility is to prosecutors. The

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FBI here was acting as an

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independent contractor, right they were

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investigating the case as they would

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if it were a federal case. They were

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just asked to do this one particular

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task, So whoever they reported

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to was somebody in the prosecutor's

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office. It's a prosecutor's responsibility

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to see to it that they get all the information they

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need. Would the FBI with actually

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withhold information from the people

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who hired them to do the lab work that being

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the prosecutor makes no sense to me, no

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sense at all.

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And if for some reason the FBI is

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reluctant and doesn't want to turn over

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the genetic genealogy information, Greenberg

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says, the bureau won't have a choice if

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the judge orders the information to be turned

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over to the defense.

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Everybody who was within the jurisdiction

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of that court, which obviously the FBI in

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this case is because they put themselves into the

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case. The law of the case is what the judge

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says, it is okay, he says, turn it

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over. They turn it over.

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But with the start of the trial nearing, the clock

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is ticking, and every day which the

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defense is without this key DNA information

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makes the October second start date for the

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trial more and more unlikely.

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Coburger's lawyers asked, and the judge

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said yes.

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One week after the June twenty seventh pre

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trial hearing, Brian Coberger's defense

18:51

team scored a small but potentially

18:53

important victory. Judge John

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Judge ruled that the prosecution must

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give the Coburger's defense team access

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to the training records of the three Idaho

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police investigators the defense

19:05

team deemed are at the center of the investigation.

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The judge said of July fourteenth deadline,

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writing that the defense adequately articulated

19:14

the role each of the officers played

19:16

in interviewing witnesses and finding

19:18

and collecting potential evidence. However,

19:21

the issue of the FBI DNA documentation

19:24

was still left unresolved.

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It's an important victory, and the reason is

19:28

what they're going to try to prove it is that either

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these police officers who were

19:33

first on the scene were inexperienced or

19:36

that these police on the scene

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at first didn't follow whatever

19:40

training information they were given.

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But the long insured of it is there's

19:45

going to be a serious issue about how the crime

19:47

scene was handled and how well

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trained these particular officers

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were. And obviously the judge felt

19:53

this was important or he wouldn't have ordered the

19:56

turnover of this material.

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Defense turney Zan Taylor argued a week

20:01

earlier at the pre trial hearing that the

20:03

defense needed to better understand the methods

20:05

the investigators use to exclude

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other suspects and to zero in on Coburger.

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Stephanie and Jeff, followed

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by Stephen Greenberg.

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Does this mean that the defense is going to go

20:17

after the detectives? Are they just trying

20:20

to question the motives of the

20:22

detectives. It seems like such a stretch.

20:24

It reminds me of the OJ Simpson trial,

20:27

for example, when they went after LAPD

20:29

detective Mark Furman back in the day.

20:32

Again, is this strategy or a

20:34

stretch?

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The defense's job is to explore every

20:37

possible angle, and we don't know

20:40

exactly what their strategy is yet,

20:42

but this request certainly points in that direction.

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All that to be said, it must be so

20:47

difficult for the family members to be listening

20:50

to all of the back and forth, and we just want

20:52

to be clear that our hearts go.

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Out to all of them.

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So it's a defense going to go after the police,

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But they're not going to go after the police per se. But

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they're going to go after the individual

21:02

officers who are responsible for

21:05

being the first on this crime scene and handling

21:07

evidence.

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In a previous court filing, the defense

21:12

tried to undermine and poke holes in the

21:14

state's case against Coppager by accusing

21:17

the prosecution of not being transparent

21:19

and hiding their entire case. They

21:22

have also in pre trial motions raised

21:24

issues about how investigators use the

21:26

DNA sample to zero in on Copager.

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Attorney Stephen Greenberg says this is likely

21:32

part of a defense strategy to attack not

21:34

the final conclusions of the DNA results,

21:36

but the initial process of collecting

21:39

and analyzing the DNA from the crime

21:41

scene.

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I do believe that if the judge

21:46

let's in the DNA evidence, things

21:48

like this in terms of casting doubt

21:51

on how the entire investigatory process

21:53

was handled, goes into this whole issue.

21:56

Is the DNA any good or is it not any good?

21:58

Did they purposely focus on this guy? Are

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there are other reputative defendants out there?

22:02

So that is why the judge, I believe, turned

22:04

it over. And I think it's an important victory

22:07

for the public defender's office. Is it a

22:09

good idea to go after the police? And

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I would say if you're an inexperienced

22:13

lawyer, Yeah, you might do that. An experienced

22:15

lawyer will not go after the police per

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se as a particular group of individuals

22:20

who were responsible for taking care of our safety,

22:23

but rather the particular officers who were

22:25

involved.

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Let's stop here for another break.

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One week after the hearing, as Americans

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across the country were celebrating the Fourth

22:44

of July, and eerie video was

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uploaded to the Internet. The

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leaked surveillance footage from a nearby

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apartment complex at one three

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three zero Linda Lane appears

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to capture the moments before, during,

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and after the Grizzly murders. The

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security camera is from a parking

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lot just a few hundred yards away from

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the three story house on King Road, and

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it is just one of several camera views investigators

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have access to. This video

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cannot be independently verified, and

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due to the gag order, a verification

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is unlikely. Though it is timestamped

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Sunday, November thirteenth, twenty twenty

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two and begins at three point fifty

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nine in the morning. Since being

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posted, this video has been removed countless

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times. Much of what appears in

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the footage lines up with official statements

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from the probable cause affidavit. In

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fact, the leaked video seems to validate

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key parts of the PCA. On

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an otherwise dark and quiet night,

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the first sign of movement in the video comes

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at roughly four h five am.

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A light, possibly white, sedan pulls

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up on the street in front of the camera. Its

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headlights light up the screen. The

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vehicle stops for a few seconds at

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least five, before turning around

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and driving away. According

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to the probable Cause Affidavid suspect,

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Vehicle one, as Coburger's car is

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described by the document, was seen on other

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cameras in the area as early as three

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twenty nine a m. The PCA

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says Vehicle one makes three initial

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passes by the eleven twenty two King

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Road residents. Then, during

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a fourth pass at four oh four am,

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Vehicle number one is seen unsuccessfully

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trying to park in front of a nearby

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apartment complex before turning around.

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This appears to be the sequence caught on the

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leaked video. About ninety

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seconds later, at four oh seven a m,

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there is a sound of a short car horn

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and the camera at thirteen thirty Linda

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Lane again captures a vehicle driving

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by. This time, the vehicle does

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not stop and instead continues driving

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back towards King Road, though it

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isn't clear if this is vehicle number one

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and Brian Coburger. The PCA

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does not mention a fifth loop around the neighborhood.

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At four thirteen am, the camera appears

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to pick up the sound of a car that

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could possibly be Xana Kernodle's

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food driver departing after dropping off

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her door dash order at four to twelve am.

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Over the course of the next few minutes, the camera

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picks up multiple sounds, though

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none are clear. There are odd sounds

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and thuds. At four twenty

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one am, there is a loud sound that appears

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to be a car quickly moving. According

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to the probable cause affidavids, this

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sound happens at the exact time. At another

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camera angle shows suspect Vehicle one

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leaving the neighborhood at a very high rate

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of speed, but this isn't the final

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sound. Roughly two minutes later,

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at four twenty three, at the exact

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time investigators say the crime was ending,

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someone gets into a large, dark vehicle,

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likely in SGV, outside

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of the Linda Lande security camera. First

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you hear the door slamming, then the engine

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starting. The car leaves quickly,

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but by no means is it speeding away or

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driving recklessly out of the parking lot.

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So who was this person? Did they

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live in one of the nearby apartments? Where

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were they going and where had they been? There

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is no mention of anyone else in the probable cause

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affidavit. Were they just an innocent

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bystander completely unaware of the horrific

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murders that had just happened a few yards

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away? And did police identify

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this individual and the vehicle? Did

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police talk to and clear this person? Or

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was this individual somehow connected to the

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brutal murders of four young students

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with a lifetime of opportunity ahead of

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them, Did Brian Coberger

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have an accessory to murder? And is

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there DNA that can prove it? More

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on that next time. For

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