Start Ugly. What does that mean? Well, for innovators, it means one's idea does not have to be pretty, to execute perfectly the first time, and innovations are always growing.

Come join Chris Krimitsos as he talks about his book "Starting Ugly" and how it can help innovators start their projects and launch their ideas. He also gives us a look into block chain, and into Podfest and how in these times of isolation, how they set out to have a record breaking community of creators, be they audio, video, or other.

His book "Start Ugly" can be found on Amazon and Podfest can be found at Podfestexpo.com.

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